Painkiller Already - PKN #191

Episode Date: April 27, 2018

It's PKN time baby!

Painkiller Nearly, episode 191. What's up boys? Hello there! Doing well. The audience missed all our exciting weather talk that happened before. Oh, it was fascinating. It was great. Stormfront's coming in! Warfront's going out! You can't keep up! It's been chilly and windy.

This El Nino event is quite unusual. It's not El Nino. Anyway. La Nina event. Kyle is not paying attention during weather talk. It's La Paquita. It's a little El Nino, right? It sounds like a word. Paquito? I choose to believe it.

Note, things you might... Robot Taylor still here. Well, that's shit shit i don't know i mean i remember on xbox we would always blame people for their bad internet connection like dude what's wrong with you you're a terrible host did you buy your connection at walmart meanwhile we're all under local monopolies like there's not that many, but you were giving guys massive shit about their internet connection throughout. I buy the best that's available.

Most people do. It's not very good. I know the audience is dying for a hockey talk. Guy got hurt. What's his name? Shane Courtier? Couturier. Couturier yeah i looked at it he's been doing great for the flyers so that is a fucking shame if he's actually out well i hate

to lose nine to one that would make a big difference those games have been what seven to nothing and pens win game one five to one philly wins game two uh what five to one. Philly wins game two. What, five to one again? Penguins win? I don't know why. After the second game, I was so sure that the next one would be five to one, too. I was like, it's going to be four to one, but it's a playoff game, so they'll pull their goalie, and then there'll be an empty netter, and it'll wind up five to one.

And I was right. It wasn't an empty netter, don't think but um i did have the team switched up like i got that part wrong pretty key otherwise you know i knew that fight went into a knockout although i knew there'd be blood but yeah other than that i've been watching a ton of the games like i've been following the sharks and kings uh or sharks and ducks series rather with with chiz who's getting at least enough into it that i can talk to him about it uh kyle maybe your ladies had you talking a conversation about it that's i just checked my phone and and she had sent me some sort of thing about about hockey and

i literally like glanced at it like got some sort of picture recognition that it was hockey-related and just, nope, don't fucking care. Is it about Vegas? You said she likes Vegas, right? Yeah, she's been following the Golden Knights. And at the beginning of the season, or very early on, whenever you guys, like you and Chiz, were talking about this stuff,

I predicted them to win it all. Also, just to make this one public, I also picked Germany to win the World Cup, knowing nothing about either of these sports at all. But I'm in the runnings to just sweep it all here. You're a very good guesser. Yes. So I've been talking trash about the Flyers

as if they had a really easy series and the captain of the Penguins actually was a girl and such. But the truth is, it's not the craziest thing for the Sixers as if they had a really easy series and the captain of the Penguins actually was a girl and such. But the truth is it's not the craziest thing for the Sixers to bring home Philadelphia's third championship this year. What's the other one? Oh yeah. The Penguins. Or did you mean Pennsylvania?

The Eagles. I meant Philadelphia. And I was referring to the Eagles. The Eagles won the Superbowl. Vill was referring to the Eagles. The Eagles won the Super Bowl. Villanova won the NCAA March Madness thing. And the Sixers, I think their win streak hit like 17 games, which is pretty high. But then they lost their second playoff game. So we'll see.

But they're pretty strong right now. Yeah. They're not the dumbest pick, that's all. I mean, like, out of the East, they have a strong right now yeah they're not the dumbest pick that's all i mean like out of the east they have a strong chance of getting to the finals and that's you know more than half the battle my picks for sports every year are so bad that like i've started like subconsciously almost picking the ones i want to lose because god can't fuck me that way he'll either have to give me a good bracket or let me be good at guessing for one one right like my big thing i was like there's no fucking way the vegas

golden knights are going to beat the kings in the first round quick is going to turn alive he's going to be insanely good and vegas is going to crumble with because there's so little you know cohesion as far as them playing the playoffs as a group and nope they're winning three to nothing so far despite the fact quick's playing out of his mind, it didn't help that Drew Dowdy, the best defenseman for the Kings, got suspended a game for what I think was kind of bullshit. Whereas they'll let guys like P.K. Subban

just assault someone from behind. And as long as they're losing the game, they'll be like, oh, now, now. That's a... We're losing you a little bit taylor you're too we can't understand nothing of value just you know speaking of nothing of value i i follow politics a lot but i try not to talk about it on either of the shows too much because sometimes people aren't interested in the level of detail that i am but it's kind of juicy right

now uh there's two things going on one's hardly politics the alex jones thing but um sometimes people aren't interested in the level of detail that I am, but it's kind of juicy right now. There's two things going on. One's hardly politics, the Alex Jones thing. But so Michael Cohen is Trump's personal lawyer, and they've gone into his office and seized all sorts of like recordings and paperwork. You would think that'd be protected by attorney-client privilege, but apparently attorney-client privilege is more complicated than I thought. Dumb me, I thought if he's an attorney, then it's protected. But it turns out he has to actually be doing legal work, which I still don't fully understand what that means.

But, you know, for example, if you're a bar-certified whatever and a talk show host, that's not legal work and it's not protected. There's an extreme example. So apparently what he was doing for Trump, all sorts of fixer things, wasn't legal work. Maybe it has to involve a court. I don't know. I don't know what the deal is. But they got, not a subpoena, a warrant, right?

A subpoena is what you get if you think the other person will cooperate and give you what you're asking for. A warrant is what you get if everyone involved can agree that he's most likely gonna like destroy the evidence, swallow the drugs, whatever. So they went and they got a warrant and took his things. And then the juicy part came,

he had three clients. So I guess it's not really a law firm, but he had three clients so i guess it's not really a law firm but uh he had three clients and they were trump who they used to like pay off women this guy is his name bortz the rnc chairman dude boyot something like that you and me and names but they used him to pay off a woman that he's fucking on the side um so that she would be silenced. And then Hannity pops up. We don't know what Hannity used her for, only that he did.

And it's juicy in two ways. One, I would love to hear Hannity calling his wife and being like, yeah, yeah. You know that attorney that seems to deal almost exclusively in silence agreements for fucking women outside of marriage? Ha ha! Yeah!

He does legal work for real estate too is that on his billboard yeah uh so so that conversation he had is why i would be really nervous if i was there because i like trump's like yeah you can fuck outside of marriage just hire cohen and he'll get him to sign it and and so that's what surprised me about about hannity because because like for well he was um i know he didn't become a priest but that was his path in life was to literally become a catholic priest um and he went very deep into that process it's not a woman what if it's a young boy that would also be surprising but you know that is something falling into place it is something we see from the right quite a bit but um you know hannity claimed that he had never paid that lawyer that he had only consulted with him but sort of but that sort of sounds a bit like what happens when you get the

guy to pay someone off although you would imagine that there's like a fee you're like ah here's a thousand dollars go give her a hundred thousand and let her know what's up uh so i don't know it's it's the the other part of it i'm looking forward to when they find a thing and he's been on tv for a couple weeks now saying like you need to end this investigation lock of lawyer client privilege doesn't mean anything anymore like he's just blasting the like everything that's going on while hannity secretly knows he's the other client you He's there, I can't believe they got this guy's private records. This is a travesty. But he really didn't disclose the fact that he's the person who's going to be in the news.

Well, it seems to me Sean Hannity's the one you want to go to. He's got the fucking inside scoop on this. That's one way to look at it, yeah. I hear you. Who knows? He just has an honesty issue. Sean Hannity? What?

I know. Boggers. My biggest issue with Sean Hannity was that back, I don't remember what it was, but it was around the time that waterboarding became a tumultuous topic. He said that he would get waterboarded on the air, I believe, to show that it wasn't torture. And then I guess maybe he went and watched a video of someone getting waterboarded on the air i believe to like show that it wasn't torture and then i guess maybe he like went and watched a video of someone getting waterboarded and he was like no the fuck i'm not no i'm not no absolutely not it pops up on the internet there must be a site that like

counts the days there's a bot on reddit yeah i know on reddit i see it every day hey i just want to remind you guys that uh it's been 1683 days days since Sean Hannity said he'd be waterboarded, and he still hasn't done it. Yeah. You know what bothered – I don't want to pull it up because I feel like it would slow down the show. But Donald Trump agreed to talk to North Korea without provisions. Like a lot of times when leaders speak in the background, they've already agreed to it, and the leaders are just sort of going to shake hands and act like they made that deal um and i there's a term for it might be provisions but anyway um trump agreed that he was going to talk to the leader of north korea which i have no problem with you know things aren't going right give it a go uh like i i don't throw stones at him

um before they're earned i hope i don't't anyway. But when Obama did the exact same thing, I think he was still running when he said he would do it. They blasted him. So recently, someone put together a video of Fox News hosts, primarily Hannity, showing the like different reactions they had to the exact same idea as to whether it was Obama or Trump. And I was like, that's just, it was really kind of next level. If you saw it, I can find it maybe off show, but that was my issue with Hannity.

The other one is this, Alex Jones. So Alex Jones has been saying the Sandy Hook shooting. Oh, is this about the Sandy Hook? Yeah. It was a conspiracy. I didn't look into it, but I saw that. Now the crisis actors are suing him. They said his acting wasn't good enough. He had some funky evidence like i guess in some interview with a parent when he turned his nose disappeared

for just a second um this is a compression artifact that can happen in quick moving things and and it is what it is but he used that as proof that the whole thing was produced in a studio and that Sandy Hook is fake and going on. So they're suing him all for, I think, it might be 22 people. I want to say there's 22. I didn't realize that many people died at Sandy Hook. So many. It was worse than Parkland. Well, two parents per kid.

You end up with a lot of... It was worse than Parkland, I think. It was worse, but I think six of them might have been adults. So it might have been fewer kids and more total, I think. I don't know. I just heard it recently and instantly forgot it. 20. Could you say that again, Taylor?

It broke up. Sorry, 20. Total or kids? 20 total. 20 kids. Yeah. And then the guy's still alive that did sandy hook okay i all right i don't know i just heard it recently there were six adults

uh probably not well hopefully not well yeah but anyway the the adults are the the survivors of sandy hook are all suing him for a million bucks a pop so the reason the number was important is like 20 or 26 million dollars that he could be on the hook for all right taylor you're on mute i think i said boys we're gonna have to really work and get a lot more bone broth yep yep nope you're gone again yeah well there was a hint of it we got it we got the gist yeah yeah that's for sure um but anyway yeah so alex jones is in a hot spot i i don't know how i feel about him i wish that okay here's what i think when he was really peddling conspiracy theories and people believed it i thought he was terrible right he's profiting off the stupid and bad for america but i feel like since then it's come out that it's

obviously a joke right it's obviously a joke right like everyone who watches him doesn't believe him taylor you're completely muted yeah it seems like more of an entertainment show i agree with you right i don't know i don't think that's i don't think that's accurate okay i don't think that's accurate i i think that a large percentage i I think that the majority of Alex Jones viewers buy into a lot of what he says as truth. And they look to him for these conspiracies. I mean, just look at the percentage of people who believe in the flat earth thing or in Bigfoot or in, you know, any number of things that are crazy like that. I mean, look at the people who watch professional wrestling and still think it's real. These people exist.

You're probably right. I feel like 50-50 would be pretty fair for Alex Jones' audience. 50-50 is not fair. Well, it might be accurate, which I think is what you're saying. But if that's the truth, then I don't like him anymore.

If half the people buying him believes the nonsense about Sandy Hook or 9-11 or whatever today's conspiracy is then he's doing a terrible thing well he's like a broken clock where he'll say something that's right that nobody else guessed and then he'll use that as like a cudgel to be like oh now look at this other thing this pizza rapist parlor is also a reality and seth rich oh that this is a bona fide you know theory it's not just kind of kooky i wish he could come out and say this is an entertainment show like for his um oh he would lose so much of his audience because then both sides would leave the side that

likes him and believes him would leave and the side that thinks it's a hilarious shtick would leave because they'd be like oh now it's now it's not fun he said of course in court like in in an attempt to win over his when his child that it's all entertainment but his hardcore listeners those of us who love alex jones we know that he was just paying a little lip service to the court trying to trying to keep his child away from that reptilian who is an overlord presiding of an ex-wife of his who was who was trying yes she's been she's been replaced it's sort of a pod person situation i that so if people don't know he believes that there are reptilians and that there are um psychic vampires like yeah i was trying to say psychic, but I had psychopathic. I'm one. That's how I knew.

Fuck. Damn it. PKA has been compromised. Yeah, psychic vampires and reptilians among us. And he really pitches this. And I feel like that should be a wink to all the sane people that this isn't true that this is just i don't know is his memory on uh goblins and wizards or whatever is really him trying to say the jews yep yeah you lost you are you writing joke. Do you know what it could be, Taylor? Are you... I know I've seen it online. I don't watch his show,

but I've watched his show. I think it could be the Jews slowing down your internet connection right now to try to keep you silent, to try to keep the truth from the American people. Does Taylor have a Jewish girlfriend downloading porn in the other room? Just ruining his audio. Damn it.

I'm not paying for the bandwidth myself uh on a better topic i i hate to add it how's tinder going better yet forget how it's going what are the goals here taylor are you looking for uh you know mrs m. Wright for tonight or have you had your fill and you're looking for a bigger girlfriend? Yeah, biggin'. I believe that Shaniqua is available again. What's Wings' ex?

Which one? Chalene? Chalene is what I was going for. Yeah. Old butter teeth. It's always kind of been a mix of those with Tinder for me. But now it's more trying to find someone more girl-friendly, not really the whole fooling around as much.

So who knows? That can always switch around and change, but that's kind of the headspace I'm at. I have this idea that Taylor is of the headspace I'm at. I have this idea. I want something more committed. Taylor is at the buffet table and eventually he will taste something so good that he says, you know what? I'm going to bring this bowl home with me. That that's what's going to happen.

She's just, that's the plan. Yeah. That's what you do at every buffet is the first round. You try a little bit of everything. You realize 96% of it sucks dick, and then second time, you go back to that, like, 4%, 3%, 4%. I believe these are real Cheez-Its.

Yeah. No, these are nips. Fuck, I can tell because they're oily. Cheez-Its are oily on the outside. That's how you can tell the difference. Give me a blind taste test of any cheesy snack, and I'll tell you what it is. And more importantly, I'll tell you what it's not.

It's not Cheez-Its. I'll tell you what it's not. It's not cheese. Where is this going? It's gone. I'm looking forward to this week's PKA because it's going to be interesting watching, I guess, the two of you really provide some Harvard

level education on the topic at hand. I can see Kyle wanted to jump in. What are we talking about go ahead oh i was just nodding i was nodding in agreement because i thought you meant one thing but now i i thought i thought you meant like when we i want to recap the drinking episode on the next episode of pka i want to save that for that because i have just great opinions on it and i'm not gonna to spoil a thing. Okay.

If you're listening to this and you haven't seen the drinking episode of PKA, fucking watch that shit. Fucking watch it. That's all I'm going to say. But what are you talking about, Taylor? Our guest? Are you talking about the guest? Yes.

I don't even know the guest. You're like a Harvard professor of the subject at hand, and you're going to be able to answer all the questions he has. So our guest is Mr. Medeker he always need yeah oh yes he has he has set his sights uh so so he sort of um goes after if you will or exposes or or just delves into delves into i like that uh various individuals on the internet there was was one, I'll quickly lay this one out there, because it came to mind when you mentioned Alex Jones saying that what he was was a character in court, but not really meaning it, in my opinion. There was this guy who was,

I think he's described as a retarded pedophile by Medicare, but basically what he had done is there was a chat log of him admitting to molesting his half sister to a third party individual. And he's in a bit of legal trouble because of this. A lot of legal trouble because of this. I got mixed up on the he. Is Mr. Medeker in legal trouble? No, no, no.

Medeker delved into this guy. He made a video series about this guy. He's like the documentarian explaining this pedophile's actions. Yes. So, so, so he lays it all out there. This guy is definitely a creepo, molested his half sister. And he's like, but he did provide a bit of evidence to the contrary. He recorded this video. Let's watch. And it's this, it's the purported child molester, although he was a young fellow himself at the time of age but you know whatever and he's on camera and he and he's like you know

they say i molested my sister but that was all a lie i told i that was a lie and i'll tell you how i can prove it was a lie because in that chat log i said that the reason i didn't do anal with her is because that there was feces in her butt but as many of you know that's my kink i love feces and he used the word like for someone who loves feces like a scat no no no just no There's like a It sounds like a scientific word Poopophile Let's just use poopophile Poopophile works I'm a poopophile

And so now I'm going to prove to you And so that would have not stopped me at all In fact, I would have liked it more If there had, nothing would have stopped me From doing anal with her Because I love the poop and i'm going to prove it to you now so as you can see and he points the camera at his toilet bowl which is full of shit i've seen he reaches in to the toilet bowl and gets himself a good handful

of shit and did you notice what he said afterward after he grabbed the shit how you could tell it was like a real shit handler he goes and you can see i'm just shaking it off here to get the excess water off you don't need that it's like all right gordon ran he shakes the shit and gets the excess water off but he makes the mistake his pants are still on and he's gonna need those off so he gets the pants off like camera in one hand shit in the other hand i don't know how he made it happen and and he starts rubbing it on his penis and he's like you could tell uh you can see um you're still there okay yeah you could say you could tell you know i i'm not getting aroused because i'm not uh well i'm not aroused right now but i

hope that this was enough evidence so that you know that i did not molest her because i like poop case dismissed this is a rock solid case i present to you the people like i just hear the law and order like bum bum now I'm gonna go wash my hands and uh hang myself in the bathroom so this guy would a true poopify wash his hands after touching what he loved most

I think not clean like they touched a sucky fried chicken if he doesn't like the shit he must quit if he doesn't like the shit no if he loves the shit he must quit

he has a new target he has a new target wings of redemption has his fancy. I need to watch some of his videos and come up to speed. But I fear that he is not the kind of Wings channel that I like. And here's the deal. When Wings plays the victim and says, you know, these channels taking clips of me and uploading it or doing a terrible thing, et cetera, et cetera. I think, no, if you

don't like clips of what you're doing, stop being that guy. You know, all they're doing is holding a mirror up to you and you can't complain about what you see in the mirror, right? That's horseshit. On the other hand, I used to look at a lot of the videos about me, you know, when I was making videos all the time and it was you know i was constantly a pedophile i was stealing i was this i was that they were all things that weren't true and if he's grabbing shit out of thin air and so and talking about wings then i don't like that as much we'll see we'll see that's not the case at all in fact it's the exact opposite the reason he would like to be a guest of ours is

because we are wings of redemption historians he wants the skinny he wants to know what's up before he makes one of these video series of his which are quite successful they get they get a lot of views um he wants to know what's up who this guy is and if i can interject they're remarkably well sourced the the ones on his channel where like he doesn't go like and this ross guy's a pedophile and this and that he'll like go through and be like but you know i wouldn't be so bold as to call him a pedophile oh but here are four clips where he says that he's a pedophile isn't that odd isn't that strange oh here's a friend defending him saying he never said that oh but here it is both of them in a private discord server that got leaked talking about it like isn't this strange like it's it's like a like that's why i said like documentarian almost

level of attention to detail when he's doing like these internet insanity which that's that's my favorite series that he does is like going through like the kurt eichenwald that was his most recent one that was that guy is way more of a kook i like even thought. I liked the gang stalking one. So, Woody, have you ever heard of or are you aware of gang stalking? No. I never heard of it either until I watched the video. So it is something that strongly reinforces paranoid schizophrenics' personal delusions. And that is why it has become so...

It's taken such a hold over certain individuals. These people believe that they are what they refer to as targeted individuals. They believe that they are being stalked, followed, and pursued by perhaps a government agency, some sort of Illuminati-type situation, who uses lots and lots of random individuals throughout their daily lives to follow them around continuously and track their movements and observe them on a continuous basis all day, every day. And so they are insane. But to see them interviewed, you quickly realize they're really

sad because they believe this like the one girl is crying she's like it's just ruining my life it's ruining my life and then there's one guy he's describing how you know that someone is one of these gang stalkers he's like well they got hand signals like could you could you show some of the hand signals that you've seen them use One of them They cross their arms like this That's how you know Sometimes when they walk They swing their arms by their sides Sometimes they'll scratch their nose

They put one hand on the other like this And let them stay by their waist And if it's a girl She'll flick her hair on the side of her body that you are to indicate to the others the directionality of your person. They also like red cars. They often drive red cars. Yeah, oh, there was a whole, like, and these are people, like, clearly mentally ill, like, not with it, calling their shitty cameras like sitting in a parking lot. And they're like, I went in the store, got all my groceries, came back out.

Just needed to show you guys this. Pans over a totally benign and normal parking lot. Like if you didn't tell me what it was, I wouldn't have been able to pick anything out. And he goes, look at all the red cars. You see that? There's one. There's two. There's three.

There's four. There's five red cars here in this large parking lot and he's like and it only took me 10 minutes inside for them to show up and it's like you're breaking up real bad this is nannies i would indicate fuck yeah yeah it's funny because taylor goes like this It's funny because Taylor goes like this. Huck! And when he gets his camera out,

people are filing out of the parking lot in their cars. They're going home or to their next stop on their errand list. And he's like, yeah, putting y'all on blast. You don't like that, do you? Yeah, look at them run. Look at them run. And it's just people leaving the parking lot. And this isn't one individual that we're referencing with each of these like the hand signals, the red cars, the leaving the parking lot. Look at them run. These are three different individuals who all believe they are being gang stalked.

Some of these individuals and they use their camera to document this stuff. Some of them will like call out people on the street. They be like, how much are you being paid to ruin my life? And they're like, what the fuck's wrong with you, bro? Get away from me. Like, the one lady goes up to a mailman who's in his mail truck delivering mail, and she's like, stop stalking me! And he's like, are you stalking me? I think I've seen that clip.

She's being gang stalked. I doubt it. She's schizophrenic. Exactly. Yeah. So he dissected that that was one of his internet insanity videos it's really high quality work he does so

I hope that alleviates your concerns that he would say anything about Wings that wasn't documentable and 100% accurate I really don't think he'll say Wings is a racist or anything like that oh he dropped the n-bomb but i the wings is not racist i've talked to wings in private and public so much time he didn't drop the n-bomb he has in the past

but what would happen is um people will like jump into his voice chat on psn and they'll play racist songs or they'll just start saying the n-word and and like he'll have stepped away from the mic or something like that and he won't be able to like turn it off quickly enough and they just sort of like stick it to him like in that way and you know but they delve over everything he's ever done and you know one of them he told someone they look like harambe you the gorilla. And who knows if that person was even black or Asian or white or even a person. You know, we don't know. Just finding anything. And that's one thing I will

tell Mr. Medeker. He's like, no, that is not a racist man. In fact, according to Wings of Redemption, he lost his virginity to a black girl. You know, they called me racist for a while, and I didn't even know what I said was racist. I mentioned something about eating a cucumber sandwich. Did you guys know that was a race thing?

That's not a race thing. That's a retarded person who was talking to you about cucumber sandwiches. Well, it got a little traction. And what had actually happened was I had never heard of a cucumber sandwich. I had watched Dexter, where where the lead like one of the detectives he's kind of an older guy the sister kind of dated him for a little bit he ate a cucumber sandwich landy's is that his name and uh it was eye-opening to me because i really like tomato sandwiches and thought maybe i'd like cucumber sandwiches too somehow mentioned it

in passing on the show and then that made me racist i had no idea that it was racist what if you said if you liked cucumber sandwiches even if it was some racial thing how would that be racist i think i i refer to it as someone's leisure activity it's been a little while but i was like you know he's probably just sitting there doing nothing eating cucumber sandwiches and they're like you didn't go there and i'm like like i had no idea and and but like people were writing me it could have been a very well organized trolling campaign oh i'm sure like this was a thing that several people had heard of i was getting private messages like woody they're going off on the sandwiches that's what you said like i yeah you never heard

of it either no it's like that old kimmel clip like from years and years ago where he like they made up fake racial terms and set them to different groups to see what they thought was offensive he was like talking to asian lady he's like racist you just hissed at me a lot well god damn it my internet hasn't changed since fucking yesterday maybe do a full system you would enjoy doing the audio for this show full system reboot uh yeah i can find no correlation between cucumber sandwiches and racism it is sort of a british thing uh cucumber sandwiches are um other than that like i the only thing i could find is there's

a podcast called the racist sandwich out there yeah i found it yeah and uh yeah i i i'm like 89 sure they were they were just trolling you. It was a pretty well-organized troll from at least a dozen people. They were gang trolling you. Maybe I'm crazy. They were gang trolling you. Now, I am a gang troller. I have a gang of trolls, and we organize, and we discuss tactics to be used. On Wings, I saw a bunch of videos come out recently from the usual montage guys.

It appears that Wings got real again, put on some watchable content. Okay, here's it. Normally when I watch the videos. Like video game content? Yeah, well, apparently from his live streams, a bunch of new videos popped up. He talked about the surgery and he talked about some frustrations. He talked about trolls. Wings really gives trolls the benefit of the doubt, right?

They'll be like, I don't know, like, what was the girl's name? Shailene? Shailene, right? There'll be a guy, his username is like Shailene Farts. And he's like, I'm 50% sure this is a trolling account. It's like about 100. he's got a forgiving heart an enormously oversized and forgiving heart yes yes uh but yeah people will ask these questions and he'll answer them and and it made for a decent little you know montage of wings again yeah well i mean he to be fair he does that like every other

day or something like that but he's on lexa pro now he went he's been on it for 10 days my like probably kicking in perhaps perhaps it is he pretends it is for certain um and that's just as good that's a few excuse for like not streaming uh like when you're not streaming maybe that's why there's no content well well he's always he's been wishy-washy for for a not streaming uh like when he takes me maybe that's why there's no content well well he's always he's been wishy-washy for for a long time right like like he'll take a couple days off at a time every time like something bad happens but he's like you know i don't have the stress in me anymore to make me stream so you know you're just not gonna see a lot of streams from here they're like winks what are you gonna do after the surgery he's like never do this again

it's like i don't he thinks that after the surgery he's just gonna stop twitching youtube like a hundred percent and just just but i don't you don't think he will i don't think he can he said this he said that he's getting the surgery and that if he wasn't getting the surgery he would have taken all that money he had and paid off the house so i thought it was i thought it was no it's too late, it's only accumulating It's not like it's like I wonder if it's accumulating or if he's running through it at this point Like where are we going

Oh, shots fired I mean, accidentally I guess Or you just suggested That maybe he's spending that money And he's not saving that money Well, mostly that he was Earning much more than he needed to live. And it seems like his revenue dropped off by a ton is where I was headed with that.

He's making as much as he's... Oh, really? He's still making fine, you know? I don't know, 50 to 150 a stream or something like that. The highlights I see are always like, this fucking sucks. I only made like $12 so far. Triple ads, triple ads triple ads because

fuck you you know you guys don't donate like yeah those are definitely highlights because you know he does fine like like back that sort of behavior it works well you know there's like the beginnings of his streams i guess we better dig deep boys come on like he gets him in line with that stuff and they they throw some shekels his way and by by the end of the night, he's got $70, $80, $90. What if we live streamed? It just said wing shit all night long. Like, I don't give a fuck if you're watching. What is it?

Donate or get the fuck out? Subscribe, donate, or get the fuck out. I've only made, like, just say $12 because that's the number he says. I don't know. Whatever. I've only made $ just say $12 because that's the number he says. I don't know, whatever. I've only made $12 so far. I'll cancel this whole thing. I wonder how much I'd make

if I just had like 18 wings quotes to keep referring to. Probably not a lot because they know you don't need the money. That is a problem for me. And because they would just pop over to Wingstream, get the real thing. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah. You're like, they want the real McCoy. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You're like... They want the real McCoy. Nobody wants Mr. Pibb when Dr. Pepper's just across the street. Damn it. Foiled again. But yeah, I hope he gets the surgery.

He talks about it, and he's so goddamn wishy-washy about it. Apparently, he's got some more testing or results are coming in or something like that soon. He still says he's probably getting the surgery in Mexico. All of this wishy-washy stuff, so you never know. He claimed that he never broke his controller.

Yeah, he does claim that. That he's never actually broken one. I thought there was a clip from years ago where he threw it and you could see it break. Or am I just making up a memory? He broke his controller in the Syndicate 1v1. He claimed he did. Maybe he just didn't want to go on. Maybe that was a good excuse.

Yeah, but he had more than one controller. Of course. If he had wanted more, if he had thought that he could best syndicate in any format he'd be like all right you win game one my friend yeah let's turn that radar on like i wanted and uh let me get my backup controller out of the yep here it is all plugged in oh it's already stuck yeah look at that it it it insta-synced it's you have to do that annoying thing where you press the button and it spins and then you you're too late to click in the nope nope insta-synced all right we're good to go you've done that first of all the rules were

the same for both of them second i was host i was host on i had a good connect i had a business class connection that wasn't as good as today's but it it was good. But Syndicate was in the UK, right? Host is in North Carolina. Wings is in South Carolina. Syndicate is in England. Yeah. And they played M16 only, 1v1 on Bog. This is like custom made.

And Wings had been practicing M16s on bogs against Redneck all the time. So this was like his bread and butter. It wasn't like it was shipment or something. If people don't know, one thing Wings is particularly good at as a gamer is these long distance hit a couple of pixels from across the map. That's something that he's really good at. So he set up the game to be that, and he lost. There wasn't another mode that was going to make him win no no absolutely not um yeah he that's what i considered that so you think that's why

there was the tap out and the yeah he tapped out that's that's what happened it was a verbal tap uh or maybe a controller tap syndicate have played another one i'm sure he was oh yeah yeah he'd he'd have kept on mopping the floor all night if Geordi had kept asking for it. If old J-Square had wanted some more, Syndicate would have dished it out. J-Square, I like that. Yeah, I dig it. Yeah, Chiz pretends he made it up,

but he knows I did. I don't know why we're looking serious. Because Chiz needs to learn he can't be co-opting Kyle terms. Yes, exactly. Church of Kyle has a table of contents and a definition guide and all of that, and that's one of them.

A glossary. A glossary, yes. And bibliography as well. So, yeah, I look forward to Mr. Medeker. I'm going to watch more of his content so that we can... It shouldn't be just two hours of Wings talk. But get some Wings talk in there. Tell them what's up about that.

But he's got fascinating content. If anyone's listening to this and you want to look into this guy and then maybe based on what you see of him, throw some questions at us to ask him or whatever. His internet and sanity videos. His YouTube channel's got like a quarter million subscribers, something like that. It's Mr. Medeker. He gets around a quarter million views or more. Some of his videos go viral.

And, you know, go check him out. I really liked the gang stalking one. And I really liked the one about, I don't know what the title is, but it's something about a retarded pedophile. It's the one I described with the poop alibi or whatever. It's pretty good. it's something about a retarded pedophile it's the one i described with the poop uh alibi or um uh or whatever it's it's it's pretty good chiz and i watched it again uh last night or the night

before it's fucking hilarious yep it's really funny shit so we're gonna save drunk talk for pka yeah there's no way we could fit all the drunk talk that needs to be talked into this episode. No. We've only got Medicare for the first two hours, so then we'll have quite a bit of time to... I think that's what Chiz was saying. I like that idea anyway. Yeah, because I

have a lot to say about it. I will say this, completely blacked out. Very little memory of the entire show. And I have had to watch the show this week to know all of the things that I said. So we'll talk about that on PKA. Complete blackout, though. No memory of even the parts where I wasn't blackout drunk.

He was so drunk it took away the whole day. No memory of even the parts where I wasn't blackout drunk. He was so drunk, it took away the whole day. I'm not even exaggerating with that. It's the second drunkest I've been in my entire life. The other time I was that drunk, I think, was when we were in Austin, Texas one time. And I think it's called Sixth Street. It's a street lined with nothing but bars. It's like the party district of Austin, Texas. And we went to the very end of our hotel sitting at one end of the street,

the Waldorf or Kildorf or something. Anyway, we went to the opposite end of the road and we walked our way back, hitting every single bar along the way, me and my dad and my two friends and three or four fans who had shown up for the debauchery and they were buying me drinks all night and i was buying my own drinks all night and i spent that night in a bathroom vomiting and had no memory of like large parts of that night and had to like ask people like like what happened what happened you know it was definitely one of those nights i've seen you pretty drunk at uh in on a paintball event actually you were vomiting out of the window of a moving car

i was much much drunker last week that i see that paintball at least he had the cognizance to get his head out the window of the car see see the difference is i vomited once that night i got back to the hotel and like just went to bed that was not the case uh last thursday night last thursday night i was much drunker than i've ever been i've never drank that much in such a short period of time and like not moved around as well um i don't know if that contributed to it but like god damn i was i completely blacked out Somebody wrote me privately on Reddit, gave me drinking advice, and said that Taylor waiting for me and insisting I drink more was not being a good friend, which I thought was funny.

No. It was trying to keep us all on pace. And I thought Taylor was remarkably good at what he was doing. He's like woody i still have the glass here i'm waiting for you i'll wait for you i'm waiting for you and i don't know something about that like it was both encouraging me to join and we're not moving on past this until you drink like that combination was so it was like well i really have no choices. What are we looking at? Oh, that's you and I, I think. That's Taylor's Twitter.

He's such a goddamn troll. Oh, it's funny. There was an LGBTQtys hashtag on Twitter. And so right as this show was starting, I took the girl versions of both of your faces and did the whole, like, yes, slay queen that you see in those ridiculous threads. So I don't know. Only a matter of time till someone gets mad at me for it.

They were both better looking in my memory. Kyle's legit has a mustache of some sort. And mine has like asymmetrical eyes. They say you look like Stephanie McMahon, Woody. And Marty has asymmetrical eyes. They say you look like Stephanie McMahon, Woody. And Stephanie McMahon is very pretty. So put that feather in your hat. Yeah, you do. I'll take it.

Ronda Rousey's been putting on quite a show over there on the WWE. Do people like her? Yeah, definitely so. I think it was WrestleMania when she debuted. I watched clips of it. It looked real fun. Her athleticism really lends itself to that,

so she really puts on a good show. She's really fast, and it's fun to watch out there. Her speed is so much faster than everybody she's working with, and it's good. It's good. There's one part where she's, I don't remember who the wrestler is, but she's just beating the shit out of him. I sent it to you guys the other day, and I just wrote,

head movement, head movement. I said I'd find the clip. It's so good. Yeah, that's good. I didn't think she was going to do well. I never thought she was that charismatic. She mostly just did this I'm angry thing all the time in the UFC. And, yeah, well, I'm glad that she's doing well over there, I guess.

Oh, did you hear Poirier might get the next title shot Against Khabib? He is getting it Wait, did you hear from Dana? No, but I saw that I want to say It goes McGregor Ferguson

Alvarez And then Poirier in the rankings And so They don't want to fight Alvarez and then Poirier in the rankings. And so they don't want to fight Eddie Alvarez because I think Eddie Alvarez can beat Habib. And I think they're going after Poirier. And so Poirier said that he was contacted by Habib's people and they were like, yeah, you get the next shot. Now, I don't know what that...

That to me sounds pretty solid. It makes a lot of sense. Usually the champ doesn't get to choose their challenger like it's very rare like for people watch kyle seems to know already people watching uh champs get to pick their challenger if they like run through the whole division and maybe they don't like a guy gsp did that with nick diaz but typically they have to face the best guy. Tyrone Woodley has taken tons of crap for trying to fight easy fights. Like, you know what, I think Nick Diaz should go next. Or, you know, how about Conor McGregor? I'll fight Conor from two weight classes below me.

Or something like that. And everybody hates Tyrone Woodley. Mostly because he dodged his way to a title. And he's always trying to fight the weakest guy that he can get. And he's a boring fight, real boring fight. Yeah. He's a,

he's been a boring fighter since he got the title on his way there. He actually had some great ones, but, um, uh, so for Khabib to win this, like, I don't want to call it a fake title or fake belt,

but like, you know, he got it by beating the 15th rank guy, 11th rank. 12th. Okay. Well, 12 guy, 11th ranked guy. 12th. Okay. 12th. 12th ranked guy. And immediately be like, all right, you know, I want to skip over a higher ranked guy because we might lose to him.

I want to skip over Conor. Now, I've given Conor tons of shit, but there aren't many people at that size who are better at fighting while walking backwards. And that's a huge problem for Khabib. And then there's Poiririer who's a badass like i'm not saying it's an easy fight i'm just like um that's not the one the one is connor eddie alvarez that's the one connor's got legal shit like we want this fight right after ramadan in the fall connor's not going to be straight i'm not exaggerating that's when that's what Khabib's timetable is. He can't fight until after Ramadan. Oh, but if he does it right after Ramadan,

that's a huge disadvantage. He can't begin his camp until after Ramadan, and so that puts it into the fall. So he gets one more fight this year. There's no way he can do more than one. It's not going to be Conor. Conor's got legal shit that he's got to settle, and it's just not going to be settled. You can't expect him to do to be training and doing a camp

in the midst of this legal battle that's just not gonna happen he's like oh connor uh he's like oh i'm here for i'm here for the sauna treatment and they're like no no you got to be in a court at at nine get down there go go what's he's like showing he's like running to court rocky style like like like like up the steps courthouse steps like like like like getting his cardio in like shadow boxing sweaty in his fuck you suit so i hear what you're saying kyle i have no idea to the extent of his legal problems right because on the day that it happened it was like connor just murdered three people in cold blood on camera right and then you have an overreaction yeah and then you step back a bit and you're like he broke a window right he broke a big trouble yeah he broke a window and he hurt three people

i can't even name all three chesia borg and rose there was a there was a ufc employee whose feelings were also hurt um oh the the non-millionaire on the bus suddenly also got hurt my hands i'll never do paperwork again exactly it was smashed in a bus seat you were on the other side of the i know i know i was so distraught i went ah so broke my hand on the day it happened it seemed like it was huge And like Connor had just murdered a couple people And it was horrific and he's changing the event And it was a really really big deal

Having whatever it is Three weeks to reflect on it It's like isn't he just gonna like Pay a fine He could So there's a lot of ways it could turn out There's a best case scenario and there's a worst case scenario, right? And worst case is he goes to jail, and best case is he pays some fines.

And he does community service, but of course, if you're Conor McGregor, they don't want you sweeping leaves or shoveling asphalt. They want you to make an appearance at the Boys and Girls Club, or they want you to show up at some cancer benefit. Your new charity is an anti-bullying charity, and you're going to be speaking at high schools. They wanted to show up to a thing that will earn money. It would be something like that. So there's a real light side of things, and there's a real heavy side of things. If they hit him with one of his felony charges, then now he can't get back into the United States and they have to do the fight internationally. And it kind of bugs me,

but Rogan wouldn't go to that international flight. I knew it before he said it. He did say that. He doesn't do that. He doesn't do UFCs out of the country. Can I interrupt? So I saw that too. I saw the thing you're talking about. And he sometimes goes out of the country. I know when I was in Tokyo, Rogan was there. he's like i'm not you

know if it's in russia we're gonna be right here watching it from this studio doing a companion podcast and then he's like well i say that and then what will happen is dana will talk to me get me all excited about it and i'll get my ass on a plane to russia that's how his thing that's how the rest of it went that's exactly what he said it's very possible but that's a smart way to say it oh i plan on doing it from here. But, you know, maybe Dana will come talk to me. Get me real excited about some more money. I'm going to be like, oh, I'm so excited to go to Russia, you guys.

And end up showing up. These are good points. These are good points. But in any case, I don't know what's going to happen to Conor. And at the very least, it's going to take a long time to get sorted out. Like, it'll probably be next January or something before he's, like, all straightened out from this thing. very least, it's going to take a long time to get sorted out. It'll probably be next January or something before he's all straightened out from this thing. It could be a while

before it's done, even if it does go light. Do you mean this January? Well, it's April now, so the next January from now. Yeah, nine months from now. When's this January? This upcoming January. Yeah, well, he can't go back in time. Right. Well, nine months from now. When's this January? This upcoming January. Yeah, well, he can't go back in time.

Right. Well, you said next January, which would imply 2020. I don't know. You know what? This and next has baffled me for ages. In this case, I think they mean the same thing. This isn't like this week or next week. This is the very next January to occur.

I think maybe and then, then of course there's the civil side of things where you've got Borg and Chiesa suing him in civil court and anyone else who was there. Maybe the event place, maybe security, maybe the employees, anyone who was terrified. I was a little terrified watching the videos, just saying. You think you got a case? watching the videos. Just saying. You got a case. I'm still distraught about it. I mean, get in there while the getting's good.

You know, maybe I can't even mention it without nervous laughter. Get a, get a class. I ordered a shirt. That's nothing but a Dolly. So yeah. Um,

Borg is, is, uh, has retained a lawyer and, and I think he's going through the process of suing Conor because of his magical eye cut. He's like, look at my eye. It's cut. By the way, my next fight's been rescheduled.

We'll be down in South America fighting, me taking on my opponent. Same opponent, everything, no big deal. What about the eye cut? Ah, it's very serious. It's very serious. He produced his medical report from the hospital saying that they removed debris from his cornea. Yeah, I bet they squirted saline in there and patted him on the back. They might have.

You know what? I have more experience with this than most people because my wife has stupidly slow blink reflexes. Like one of those dogs that you throw the ball at. It's ridiculous so like even now they're like you have got to stay away from holding babies their lightning quick reflexes are clawing at your eyes and she can't blink in time and she's had so many like corneal abrasions and like like all sorts of they put these like glow-in-the-dark steroids right into her eyes and help her recover and and they told her that if she faced up against one more toddler she might as well get a cane that's so true you're right on the money yeah they're literally like you've got to back off against these newborns. She held a newborn yesterday.

One of our family friends just had a baby. Oh, that's a clever idea. I like that. Put mittens on the baby. Soft mittens, by the way. You can't have those scratchy nylon mittens. They'll get you. They'll get you.

But anyway, small corneal abrasions can be a tricky thing to work with. And I believe it could have happened. I've had, like, not eye damage, not real problems, but I've had things hit my eye while wearing glasses before. And Ray Borg had, like, picture, like, the big, like, feminist glasses. They're almost like Ray-Ban Wayfarers. That's not what he was wearing. They were more like the smaller rectangle Star Trek sunglasses,

but individual ends. If I recall, I think Kyle might find a picture. But yeah, they look like glasses that things could get past. They're not magic. I believe him. Mostly because of the medical report.

Maybe he has blink reflexes. You wouldn't think so. You'd think they'd be good. They'd be world class, even. You'd have thought he'd have dodged that dolly. I think that's the angle Connor's defense team should take. We believe that Mr. Borg

put himself in front of the dolly on purpose, Your Honor. What if you found some footage of him actually doing that? You watch in slow motion and Borg is running toward the window like this. Gaping his eyes open.

Give me that Conor McGregor money. I'm never going to get anything like that fighting at this weight class. Never get another shot at DJ. I'll pay an eye for half that Conor money. I'm showing them to everyone on the screen right now. They're a little bigger than they were in my memory, but still, they're not safety glasses.

Sure. Oh, no, those are just regular glasses. So, yeah, and then Kiesa... I don't think... It's more about losing the fight night for them, I think, than anything, but they're going to have a hard time arguing that because they got their show money.

So I don't know what's going to happen in the civil court. Sometimes it works out nice. They're like, all right, we're going to put you on the very next event. So they get their show money twice, and then it's still their shot at the win money. That's the case. Borg is on the – it's in Brazil. But they do have to earn it.

Apparently, it's a lot of work to put in that training camp and make the weight. And they only get their show money if they make the weight so these guys knowing that they weren't gonna fight still made weight which is brutal and yeah yeah yeah yeah but i mean i mean i i bet they would take it like if they're like if they were given the option to do exactly what just happened minus the the injuries of course you know if they're like you know we'll give you your show money this time, and then six weeks from now, we're just going to reschedule.

You're going to do the same fight. You're going to do it in Brazil. Worst case scenario, you get your show money again. I'd like to see UFC do that. I don't know what Eddie Alvarez makes, but I'm going to guess it's like $125,000 in show money, and then a double that for a win. Just guessing.

They should be like, alright, you know what? what khabib and pourier are going to fight alvarez your first alternate so you get show money for making weight and then if something goes wrong we have you here oh that makes so much sense why aren't you running the fucking ufc why don't they have alternates why don't they and and so and he could step in for either one of them maybe you just said that and i glossed over but but like he'd step in in the case of either one of them going out and and throw an interim belt on the line or yeah potentially that i love that idea it would save so many cards like i was looking at ufc 225 that's you know an upcoming card stacked card holly holmes on it. Yoel Romero's on it. Every so often there's a Super Bowl.

And, yeah, I was about to harpoon you through the internet. I thought you were saying that in sincerity for a second. That was funny. And I was thinking as I looked at that card, because even the CM Punk's on it, which is a bit of a controversial thing that he is. It's fun fun everybody wants to see i think mike jackson is the guy he's fighting and mike jackson's out there like i'm gonna ruin his career this is the last time he ever tries this bullshit again stepping into our sport i'm gonna fuck him up like like he's coming

into it angrily that he's being forced to face off against this non-competitor like it's a slap in his face before he even gets in the end of the cage he's like good it's like he's setting up an underdog story for people to watch who otherwise have been disinterested yeah absolutely so so he's the bot he's the the lowest card on the main card lowest fight on the main card he's the fifth fight of the night or something like that and even the and even the undercard is is quite good i don't have it memorized but it's good but i looked at it and i was like i don't even want to talk about this like it's probably it's not gonna happen like like like like two-thirds of this probably isn't gonna happen like god knows what it's gonna get

all jumbled like best case scenario someone steps in that's that's a that's a you know a real warrior a real cool guy i've been there somebody's it's like don't fall in love woody you've been here before your heart can only take so much. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. But I love your alternate idea. It makes so much sense. It would just cost – it would cost more money, obviously.

But maybe, like, I don't know. I was trying to think of a way to recoup that money in case the fight didn't fall through. Like, do some sort of – have them still compete in some way. They do it a little bit. Like, here's something that i that i know from behind the scenes when um benson henderson fought uh who's the guy from jersey tough guy lost to jose alto twice brown hair kind of italian um benson henderson fought him for a championship twice once he took it from him and once he defended it uh shit I don't know I'm losing his name anyway these two guys were fighting at 155

and then also on that card was Joe Lozon versus Anthony Pettis and as a way to make them more interested in flying out to Tokyo because it's tougher to do all that. They were like, hey, if someone gets hurt in this title fight, Lozano Pettis will probably get the call. You know, that's a thing. They were on that card as kind of an alternate. Was it Ricardo Lamas? No.

He's a wrestler. Frankie Edgar, Chad Mendes? Frankie Edgar, thank you. Yeah, Benson Henderson fought Frankie Edgar for a title, and then Pettis and Lozon were on that card to step in for the title in case something happened. And that was part of what made it. They were like, all right, look, no one wants to go to Tokyo and fight.

It's tougher. There's travel. There's more expenses. The UFC doesn't cover effectively the expenses for the whole team to come out All his corner men, so Joe's paying that Out of his pocket, but hey You know, if there's a 5% chance you get

A title fight, you do it Yeah, yeah, definitely so But yeah, I don't know what's going to happen With Conor, I do hope that, I want to see him Fight again, because like I don't know, I like i don't know i i know i don't know much about this sport or whatever but i i just i just feel like he's a paper champion as good as he is i feel like there are people who are better or people who have the

answer for what he is because he's so one-dimensional we're talking about khadib yes i think i think i think that alvarez could alvar eddie alvarez makes a great case like he's been shouting it from the rooftop since habib won, that he's his kryptonite, that he should be next in line. And I look forward to seeing him fight again. He's an entertaining fight. It's funny. Alvarez was going to be Conor's kryptonite because he could wrestle.

Now he's going to be Khabib's kryptonite because he can strike. Are you sure you're not just like Cole or something? Yeah, it was real fun. I go back and watch. I like that fight between he and Connor. I've seen that three or four times. I got fight pass or whatever. I like to go back and rewatch a lot of those fights.

I look forward to it. So in the knockout sequence, Connor kind of set a trap for him uh i i forget the details of it but like he does a faint and notices alvarez you know ducks that way so then he does a faint slips in closer and then takes advantage of it and uh like a three-shot combo that like takes him down where like the last one barely touches him it's beautiful it's beautiful yeah i i the setup of it people keep making videos about how brilliant it was is ring smarts and yeah i like that stuff i like now that's the stuff that i can't see when i'm watching a fight i'm just watching people hit each other for the most part but like when when those channels break down they're like ah look right here he faints and he noticed that he ducks down into the left then he comes back

and faints again down into the left he's got him and then the next time he faints, and you notice that he ducks down into the left. Then he comes back and faints again, down into the left. He's got him. And then the next time he faints, he, like, throws a high head kick or something. That's what John Jones in D.C., right? In the grappling, I feel like I understand everything that's happening. In the striking, I'm just like you. Yeah, the flanks, yes, out there. It's beautiful when someone breaks down.

It's so fast. Grappling all happens in slow motion. So I can be like, all right, that guy's got to get on his left hip you know that guy's got to get his knee past that guy's you know the crook of his arm you know but in striking did you see that did you know did he twitch like what did i miss i don't know what happened so fast it i don't do you think uh you think you think cormier is going to lose his next fight eh stepping? Stepping up to heavyweight? I do. You know, look, I could be wrong all the time, but Cormier doesn't move athletically

anymore. He's such a big, stiff kind of hulk of a guy. He's beating a very weak division. Who's the second best guy? Isn't he almost 40? Yes. What's his name? That was just on Rogan, right? Second best, is it Gustafsson? You think it's uh what's his name that was just on rogan right um second bet is it gustavs and gustav yeah you think it's him uh yeah it's a huge drop off like you know like i i just feel like he's gonna

get in there with a guy who doesn't have as many miles on him and he's gonna look like an old man alexander gustafson gustafsonson. Thank you. Yeah, that guy was an interesting interview. His English isn't 100%, but I'd say it's like 85% or something like that. Did he seem like a good guy? Yeah, he really did. He was talking about fighting John Jones and how for him, beating

Jones at this point would be better than winning the belt. He was talking about... Did they talk about his criminal history at all? I didn't catch that part. Maybe they talked about Conor McGregor, but I didn't hear them talk about Gustafson's criminal history. Yeah. At some point, you get over it, right?

He was young. He wasn't a fighter yet, and he was like mugging people purse snatcher type of dude. Oh, quick on his feet. I like that. Yeah. And some people hold that against him even still i i don't know i just want to know what the scenario is was he like a stupid teenager

you know because i was a stupid rocky balboa was breaking fingers for the mob before he became the champion okay and you didn't see anybody hold that against him. Strong point. Yeah. Take your thumbs. Cowboy Cerrone, right? Everybody loves Cowboy. He's one of the most popular fighters in UFC history. Has been into a number of street fights. That guy had it coming. As a professional fighter.

Well, we've only heard Cowboy's side of it. That's all I need to hear. He bumped into his boat. I'm sold. I love that. If you've never heard this story, basically Cowboy's out on a lake or something, and another guy gets too close to his boat with his boat or a ski-do or some horse shit and bumps his boat and like, hey, what the fuck?

And so they get on the land, and he head kicks the motherfucker. Yeah. I must have misremembered the start of it but yeah like it i remember they were on land and the guy was i feel like that wouldn't happen to joe lozon joe would be like look i don't think you realize like you're dealing with a loaded weapon here you know like let's just move on i i don't know i a cowboy's been in a couple of these ridiculously mismatched street fights. I don't know, Woody.

Like, I feel if you were a cowboy, would you be like, I don't know if you're aware, but I fight in the lightweight division of the UFC. Perhaps you've seen some of my work. Like, would you break it down for him or would you be like, fuck you? I might win in a different way. Make sure nobody heard you. Make sure nobody heard you insulting. Fuck you i might win in a different way but my um my my nobody heard you nobody heard you insulting fuck you pussy pussy i said my instructor had a guy road rage at him you said that so yeah right to your face so this guy's uh he's the i swear to god he was the kf champion. He fought in the Kentucky Fighting Championships.

And he was like a three-time KFC champion, which is funny. And so I'm saying he's a pro fighter, but he's not an elite pro fighter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this guy rode rage at him, right? I guess my instructor did something on a scale of 1 to 10 that was like a 5. Maybe he nosed his way into a left-hand turn lane or something. And the other guy goes bonkers at him. Gets out of his car and starts banging on my instructor's window.

The driver's side window in his car. And he's like, huh, so how's this going to go? Now, mind you, people think you just have to understand what a mismatch this is. My instructor wins by whatever he chooses to win by. That's how this fight will go. And he's like, I'm going to get out there. I'm going to rear naked choke him. And then he'll come to, and that'll be awkward.

And that was like one of his big, because he's like, I don't know what I'm going to explain to him. He'll have that memory loss that you always do. And'll be a little confused and i don't even know if he should drive right away i think i need to sit by him and he just drove away knowing that the whole situation was not like it i've talked about the tiger smile before sometimes gun owners feel like they don't need to engage in a confrontation because they have a gun and it gives them self-confidence or whatever i saw that look kyle bite me so so anyway that's what he had he was just like i don't need to go prove that i can win this fight i'm the goddamn reigning kfc champion and uh and he just drove around the car and let the guy feel like maybe he drove away scared or something to that effect

or something to that effect. That's what a true badass has at his options. He can drive away and know that that fight was anything he wanted it to be. He doesn't have to prove his manhood. It's been proven so many times. Cerrone, on the other hand, high kicks him? High kicked him? You concussed him with your shin?

That's what happened. He gave him a knockout by shin bone. Hey, he's a professional athlete. He can't really take any damage. He's going to get in their box with this hooligan? Anything he wants. This hooligan. You think he's going to get hurt going for the takedown? He totally could.

The guy could gouge an eye. The guy could bite him, give him some sort of communicable disease. You don't know who this man is. Cowboy Cerrone wins that fight by whatever he wants. That guy, he could have had a knife and his board shorts that's a fair concern keep him at range use use your use your use your skills cowboy just just take him down and i love yeah there was another one too i forget the details of it but yeah he's had a couple of street fights that he won uh all the time you know that other guy was the aggressor i don't know seems like he didn't do much uh to diffuse the situation thank you yeah no i i don't

i i like that from my professional fighters i like i like it if if the guys who are like yeah we're professional athletes we we get in that cage and we perform and you know we're just normal guys you know i kind of did like it when tank abbott got in there you knew he'd beat up two guys before he got there that night like i kind of like a tough fight since the parking lot i like what you're saying like i could definitely see where kyle's coming from ronda rousey used to say this she's like i'm a professional fighter that means if you want to fight me you have to pay me yeah like i can accept that yeah yeah that's fair enough if you train your whole life to get that way you don't do it for free but if you want me to kick you in the head and then you wake up

with your buddies in an hour that's free oh here's one forrest griffin did this by accident so somebody was coming like a reporter was coming to interview Forrest. And he was an hour late. And Forrest did not take it well. He was mad. And he's like, I'm not going to do the interview. And the guy's like, you have to. Like, I'm so sorry.

Excuses, whatever. You know, like I didn't mean it as disrespect. It was outside of my control. Whatever it was, the guy wasn't there in time. And Forrest was like, I'll give you the interview if you let me kick you. Right? He's kicking him in the thigh. Oh, no.

Oh. No. He broke his bone. The guy didn't know how to. He didn't tense up. He didn't know what. All right. Again, super amateur over here, but I feel like maybe you don't just leave your leg limp

and, like, don't check at all and just absorb. Like, you got to, like, lift your leg and tense everything, right, so that it swings and it's going to hurt. I feel like maybe he didn't think Forrest was going to kick him hard enough to break his bone, right? I definitely did not think that. I get that he's the ex-205-pound champion of the world, He didn't think Forrest was going to kick him hard enough to break his bone. Right. Definitely. I get that he's the X 205 pound champion of the world, but you think maybe he'll pull his punches a little bit.

The, the, the guy interviewing him wasn't even champion of recess. That's a little fucked up. That's see, see that, that is worse to me than, than what cowboy did because cowboy was provoked by someone. And, that is worse to me than what Cowboy did.

Because Cowboy was provoked by someone, and then he was challenged to a fight. And presumably, he was like, all right, let's throw down. He may have even given them a chance. Like, yeah, sure. Like, you know, he's all tatted up. He looks like Cowboy Cerrone. Is this really the man you're going to challenge? And, you know, shirt's off.

He's in his boat, right? Like, you could see who you were challenging. is this the is this really the man you're going to challenge he in you know shirts off he's he's in his boat right like you could see who you were challenging what would it be fun to provoke cowboy a little bit like bump your boat into him like get to the beach if you like how about just fucking with you i'm a huge fan i don't want to kick your ass anymore i don't know you are playing with fire it's not worth it might slap you around a little though you might anymore. I don't know. You are playing with fire. It's not worth it. He might slap you around a little, though. He might, yeah. Well, okay, don't bump his boat. Don't give him any actual reason.

Maybe just talk a little. Maybe run your mouth and then be like, I'm a huge fan. Based on that man's background, I would not do that. It does seem like a critical mistake. Yeah, yeah. I can just see you with a big stake over your eye. Like, you know, I didn't think he'd do it they never do i always laughed when i did this

yeah these guys are professional ass kickers you know like like they can kill you if they want to with their bare fucking hands in the course of 60 or 90 seconds. Don't fuck with those people. That's like those people who go to the zoo and stick their hand in and get sucked in by a tiger or something like that. What did you think was going to happen? What did you think was going to happen? Or the guy who's feeding the cobras. You ever see that guy who's got that long curved mouth? Oh, yeah.

I've seen it. He's pulling drawers of cobras out and giving each one a mouse and every one of them wants to kill him if he gets bit and he as soon as he gets bitten he should be like ah today's the day i saw a guy it was a python right now me i think every snake is scary as hell but i don't think pythons are venomous they're squeezers right yeah they're constrictors so he just like you know it took him a little time and then he pinned his head to the ground and then he pet him and stretched him out like he was almost ironing a tie or something and then once he did that the thing was cool like you know he just held it it was no big deal they put it in a bag eventually and got moved I was like, oh my gosh, is that a thing that people can do?

Oh, I saw that That was not a python That was a cobra So that was definitely venomous Yeah, you could see the hood, it was sitting up And it was agitated The title I thought said python I feel like

Some people in countries like that Like here, we got a great life to lose So I'm not i'm not doing that i'm going to use that hook that steve erwin you just keep it away you know they're like you know if i die tonight what would i really miss out on just grab the snake over the best or the worst how do you see it yeah that's fucked i i dreamt that i fought a giant snake last night. It's funny you mentioned that. And he woke up with cum all over him. That was a good joke. I had to pat myself on the back.

Shroud was there too, so that would be weird. I grabbed the snake by its head, and then I mounted its back because it was so enormous that I could ride it, and I would twist its head left or right and make it slither in that direction. It was enormous. And then Shroud cut its head off for me because I didn't have enough free hands or blade. But he had like a big CSGO knife for some reason.

Well, thank God he was there. Yeah, I went to sleep listening to Shroud play PUBG. I think that may have been an influence. I don't know where Snake came from, though. I'm sticking with the hard-on theory. I do like Shroud. We should end on that note. Okay.

PKN, episode 191.