Painkiller Already - PKN #204

Episode Date: July 27, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What do you want to talk about? Let's talk about all the other alloys that we hate In addition to carbon fiber So welcome to PKN204 You guys just missed an epic rant That I probably wouldn't make public About my new paramotor Um
Starting point is 00:00:15 Assembly Woody has a lot of strong feelings about carbon fiber He does not care for it No, it's the worst Bullshit material apparently I thought that it was pretty neat most people seem to agree with you fuck carbon fiber oh my god like i was just yeah every time you work with like if it was just like a carbon fiber car hood then i don't think
Starting point is 00:00:38 i'd mind it so much but whenever it's like hey we want want you to take advantage of the very edges of its springy characteristic, carbon fiber is flexible until it's not. And that's why I hate carbon fiber. Fuck. Well, oh, I looked up common uses for carbon fiber, and this list isn't as impressive as I thought it would be as I'm scaling down. It's like the top two both have to do with bikes, helmets, and bike frames. And then the third one just says
Starting point is 00:01:07 carbon fiber wallet? It's like, you could have one. It's like, the name of this page is 10 Everyday Uses. No one has a carbon fiber wallet. Why would you? No. Good luck getting into here. Unless you like stab it with your metal knife.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Oh, you still rock that one kyle yeah i like this one yeah is that the fold open one that like it's not no this is the carbon fiber one no it's uh oh i think it's actually a metal pen i used to use honestly i have this one now uh it's similar there's a little spot for cash here and uh here watch this credit card comes out um i don't know i just found it it's nice i guess yeah i like that i like them being tiny like this like whatever the functionality is i just like this tiny everything's as big as a credit card right like i like step one is reorganizing your pockets right right? You're like, oh, that Subway frequent card I've been working on for 16 years,
Starting point is 00:02:07 that's got to go, I guess. You know, like, oh, here's a credit card I don't use very much. Ejected. If I buy three more burritos at the Moe's in Boise, then I get a free one. So why throw it away, just in case? Step one to a thin, organized wallet
Starting point is 00:02:24 is getting rid of cards like that yeah you can't go george costanza on a wallet oh yeah were you keeping mints in it just crunches down here's all those receipts oh such a good show yeah uh so kyle's still on the crash diet or are you pulling out of that yet i haven't eaten in a couple days i'm pretty hungry really just no eating in a couple days yeah yeah are you just rushing because you can't get wait to get back to food yeah it's just like i'm gonna get all the misery out of the way now yeah that's the whole point right right? It's minimizing the misery of life. You know, just squeeze it all into one obnoxious month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:09 What are you at now? 194? 195? Something like that. Nice. Really slimming down. I started a couple days ago doing, like, more of a keto thing. So I figured, like, oh, I'll give this a go.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Everybody seems to like it for at least short periods of time. Not hard so far. Everybody's like, you're going to miss carbs. At some point, I'm sure I will, but it's truly not too bad yet. You get to eat an insane amount of meat, which is my favorite food anyway, in all forms.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I don't even have to get turkey bacon anymore. I can get real bacon. I don't know about the keto thing. I feel like even have to get turkey bacon anymore. I can get real bacon. I don't know about the keto thing. I feel like you have to be on it for like a month and a half or something before anything happens. Maybe. I don't know. I was kind of feeling stale and I was like, I'll try something new. Yeah, I don't know very much about it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Clearly, from what I've read, you need to keep reading before you do know anything about it. But it seems like there's not a lot of sugar in there or none at all and your body goes into something called ketosis after a while, which I guess changes the way it processes calories or certain kinds of calories. I saw Wings the other day.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He was like, oh, I haven't eaten since breakfast. I can feel myself going into ketosis. How long does ketosis actually take? Dude, I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know if it's something that you literally can go in and out of during the day, or if it's like you break keto or ketosis and now you're fucked for four days.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I think it's kind of like no expert. I've been looking it up some. It seems like it's almost like working out in that if you have a history of doing it, your body kind of picks it up and is like, oh, okay, I get what we're doing, and you can get back into it pretty quick but apparently the first and second time or the first couple times it can be pretty difficult like take a week or two to actually get into it oh a week or two okay yeah because i like i said i don't know if you like
Starting point is 00:04:57 if you skip lunch do you like slip into it no no i don't think it's about like cutting calories out it's about um it's no carbs basically it's about no carbs in the high fat thing and changing the way your body uh deals with those uh those substances i believe but i think i think it takes like a month like the way they're like all the cookbooks and shit are telling you to cook stuff like it doesn't seem healthy where i'll be like oh i'm gonna saute some asparagus like i do often and they're like now throw in like just whatever looks like enough butter double it and i'm like really that like that much butter needs to be on all this shit but i guess it kind of does if none of your calories are coming from carbs but i i'm still trying to figure out what healthy fats are and what aren't healthy apparently i'm just supposed to be eating handfuls of avocados and i don't want to do that the whole keto thing like so i i thought i was doing and it turns out
Starting point is 00:05:51 i never really did it right but um it's like a trust fall to me like all right woody work with me here you need to survive on bacon and avocados it'll work i swear and i'm like man i don't know i don't know it I don't know. It's just like leading backwards off the stage, thinking that this will work. That's against everything I've learned. Well, it's like any meat, you know, really. Yeah, you can eat like any meat.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's any meat. Any cheese. I exaggerated with just bacon and avocados for the show. But still, the notion is that like, if you just cut out these foods, you can eat a lot. And by the way, you can eat foods that you think of as foods that make you fat. And it was, yeah, I just never really got to. You can't eat foods that were otherwise staples of my diet for a long, long time, like brown rice. I eat a ton of brown rice.
Starting point is 00:06:41 You do. So just cutting that out is like, all right, well, I got to fill that with something. So I bought a ton of spinach. Apparently carrots. You can't even have carrots. Those are too high carb, which is bullshit. Tomatoes. I love this.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's one of my favorite vegetables. Tomatoes. It's a fruit. I'm going to fudge the numbers on tomatoes because I like tomatoes. I like the way you're thinking, Taylor. Keto won't know. They're not really fruits. No, they have no idea.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, I mean, they're fruits, but they're vegetables. We't know. They're not really fruits. No, they have no idea. Yeah, they're fruits, but they're vegetables. We all know. According to my research, you can go into ketosis in as little as two days because your body apparently only stores a two-day supply of glucose. But, yeah, I don't care about that diet. I feel like low-carb, low-calories. Now, your body may have a two-day store of glucose, but we have friends of the show who maybe have a two month storage
Starting point is 00:07:27 of glucose. No? Am I crazy? I don't know shit about glucose. That's that little burst of energy. But if we're talking about the ability to walk across a long desert. If Wings had been in The Hobbit There'd be no second breakfasts.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Not Wings. They'd have ran out of that bread on day two first of all. But they'd have made it. And he'd been a second breakfast later ran out of that that bread like on day two first of all but they'd have made it and he'd have been fine he'd have been fine yeah i i'm sure there's so many different like moving parts in it because it's like so if you barely ate carbs before you started of course you're going to go into it pretty quick right but if you're someone like me who eats a fuck ton of carbs then it might take longer because your body's not used to burning fat i don't know but i am at that stage now where like anyone who says anything about it i'm like ah okay and then i'll you know in like a week's time i'll be listening to videos and thinking
Starting point is 00:08:19 everything i believe today is bunk so there's a wait you if you go to the our keto subreddit yeah i've been going there oh oh then you know well for people listening not all the posts the posts of course are going to have people posting of various you know uh in knowledge levels but the sub links on the right like they can be pretty good they list all the good and bad foods yeah for sure yeah so yeah just seems like you stay away from anything with carbs or or sugar in it especially right and and you're good it seems like even if you don't do it perfectly it's like worst case scenario is you're going to be eating fewer carbs so like even if you don't achieve ketosis you're still going to lose weight see that's that i'm only halfway with
Starting point is 00:09:03 you there right because certainly there's a cut out carbs how can that be. See, that's the, I'm only halfway with you there, right? Because certainly there's a cut out carbs. How can that be bad, right? That's where you are. But when they start to say, oh, but you can have all the fats you want, you know, the load up on your bacon and your butter. As a matter of fact, buttered bacon would be a fine dinner for you. That's the, that was the trust fall that I never was able to take see i i'm with you there maybe i didn't explain what i'm doing well enough i'm still tracking my calories i'm just like changing my macros greatly to where it's like basically like quadrupling the amount of fat i used to eat like taking all the carbs and leaving it out and i'm technically not even on the keto thing because
Starting point is 00:09:39 i'm eating a much much higher percentage of protein than you're supposed to because I don't want to lose gains or anything or plateau. Exactly. You work so hard. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. It's neat.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It should be fun. I've been trying to get disciplined on my diet again, but it appears that I'm at least a partial piece of shit. I had a bunch of nuts last night when I was hungry. Wow. I know. You say- All kind of nuts. Pistachios. P i pistachios i hear you goofing on me
Starting point is 00:10:07 but dude pistachios are my ticket to fatty like well i did eat two pounds no it wasn't two pounds i don't eat it was a bunch though i bet it was three ounces or something and it's more weight than you'd guess it might not have been three ounces but it was a lot that are already shelled or are you having to open them oh no they're they're they're ready to eat they're ready you want to open them because that that burns a few calories and it helps counterbalance the pistachio slows down your eating yeah you don't just reach in and get like four in a pinch you know like every pinch is four um but no that we we like the other kind here and i'm a bad person because i had some not only i eat them but i ate them last night before I went to bed which is
Starting point is 00:10:46 like an easy time to be disciplined, right? If I just pushed another half hour I would have gone another 10 hours and be breakfast and I could be free to eat again. But no, I didn't. But I have been good about lifting just recently, the last two weeks. Pistachios and cashews are the two highest carb nuts.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And a macadamia nut. Is that right? Are you just saying that because it's a funny saying? No, pistachios and cashews are the two highest carb nuts. And a macadamia nut. Is that right? Are you just saying that because it's a funny thing? No, pistachios and cashews are. Kyle, I wasn't sure. Even if I find out that peanuts and almonds aren't the best kind, I think walnuts are the best kind, but walnuts kind of
Starting point is 00:11:17 suck when you put them head-to-head with peanuts. Like, they just can't compete. Maybe you guys disagree, but no. A plain unsalted walnut versus a plain unsalted peanut, no. Big fan of peanuts. Big fan of peanuts. They're my favorite nut, I would say, although they are technically a legume, of course. But there's so many things you can do with a peanut.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I'll go George Washington Carver on those things. There's all kinds of fun stuff to be had and made. What do you make with your peanuts? Do you make peanut chicken, like Asian dishes ever? Stir fries? No, absolutely not. No. No? What do you do with your peanuts? Cooking with them, but I love peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I love doing stuff with the peanut butter. Sometimes I eat them in the car. Sometimes I eat them in the basement. Although macadamia nuts are really good. Those are. Like the white chocolate macadamia nut are really good. Those are. Like the white chocolate macadamia nut cookies that they have at Subway. It's the only reason to go to a Subway, really. Kyle, is your mic auto-adjust on by chance?
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's unlikely. I'll check. Okay. Yeah, you're getting a little louder and quieter for me as well. It is not on, but I'll try to keep the microphone closer maybe yeah it could be my technique but i i think there's something technical in your system being tricky that's my guess because i don't see you moving around or yeah have you guys been following trump got himself in hot water recently by believing putin over the intelligence i thought he said he agreed with both of them or
Starting point is 00:12:48 something like that i don't know you know he's just saying stuff up there yeah it's it's it it with a normal politician i think you can be like aha this is his stance on this topic and this issue we have him but with trump the next day he's like huh i don't know that's not what i said so i put a lot of thought into this i think the deal is this trump doesn't want to be caught or accused or like be lumped in with this whole colluding thing right and in his head he conflates two things the idea that russians meddled at all and the idea that he colluded you can have one without the other i'm a hundred percent on i'm exactly aligned with you. So it is proven now. It's locked in that the Russians meddled, right?
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's unanimous agreement amongst the three or four intelligence agencies. I could explain the whole 17 thing, but that's bullshit. But the three or four intelligence agencies that actually look into this, as opposed to like the Coast Guard one that doesn't. They all agree. It's locked in. And if you've read the latest indictments, they're really detailed. Like they have locked in who did it, which actors, which computers they used, which ones did two different things.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Like they really have figured out how they spearfished the Podesta's email and got him to like give him his password. Okay, so that happened. I think Trump just doesn't want to admit that there was any Russian meddling at all because that opens the door to colluding right and if he just even cracks that door that you're like yeah they meddled okay did you help a medal no let's just not even take a step one they didn't meddle so that's where he shoots himself in the foot by doing that too. Because it's like, pretty much
Starting point is 00:14:26 everyone is on the page that, you know, do you really think this is Russia's first time meddling in our election? Like, really? You think these giant countries aren't fucking with each other's elections all the time? Of course there's meddling. But he can't separate those two things out in his head. It goes both ways too. It's not like,
Starting point is 00:14:41 God knows what we've done. We know for sure that we're some meddlers. Not only are we meddlers, but Trump goes both ways like this. This is where I thought Kyle was going. I'm sorry to cut you off. But he'll say, look, there was no meddling, but it happened under Obama and he should have done something about it. Like, you'll get those two things in the same sentence. It'd be so much easier if he would just be like, yeah, they've been meddling for many, many elections.
Starting point is 00:15:08 We meddle with them. He probably shouldn't say that. Like Trump, sometimes it's not super easy to predict what's going to flare up, right? Because Trump says outrageous shit every day. But this particular outrageous thing, he said before that he believes putin this isn't even the first time but previously it was never a big deal this time for whatever
Starting point is 00:15:31 reason it got traction everywhere fox news is fucking over trump on this right fox news is calling it disgraceful that's neil cavuto that guy's in his pocket right even hannity is hazing him a little bit oh no way hannity's on team trump is but i swear he gave an inch took a mile but the other people of course chef smith is nailing him to the wall because he does that but most of fox most of fox is giving him a hard time and then of course all of everybody else is and then of course like paul ryan and a bunch of republicans who don't always you know who are not never Trumpers are giving him a hard time. And I'm watching all this because sometimes I watch it like sports, you know, like just moves that they're making.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And I'm like, man, I don't know why this time when he said he believed Putin is so much different than the last time he said it. But it's fun to watch. Yeah, nothing's going to happen. Here's what I think will happen. It will just be one of the stains, right? Like, Trump has a million of them. They usually don't count. But I think this is going to be like another Charlottesville
Starting point is 00:16:32 or Puerto Rico. Like, it blows over. People don't think about it very much anymore. But it's one of the things. Yeah, he's getting reelected. It's hard to tell. Well, you can't even know yet, because how can you predict unless you know who the Democrats are going to throw up, you know? I think the fact that we can't predict one of the people that the Democrats might throw up is a pretty key thing.
Starting point is 00:16:56 If you look at all of their main players... Maybe like Biden. Biden's too old at this point. Exactly. Just like Sanders is too old at this point exactly just like sanders is too old at this point like like and and clinton certainly and the establishment democrats fucking do not care for mr so so now who we're gonna get elizabeth warren in there are we gonna get you're gonna have poke hana jokes for fucking three months of campaign no because all the hillary supporters hate people like her and the green party and bernie because they're like you sure just joined our team and then like and the democrats certainly do not want to they're like, you sure just joined our team! And then, like, all the Warren voters.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And the Democrats certainly do not want to put someone up who's like a centrist, who will actually make sense to everyone, right? No, they'll have some person up there who wants... That's what they should do. I want two things. One, I want him to be a bit of a centrist, right? So that he can pull people from the middle.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Two, he should be straight from central casting. He should look a little like Mitt Romney and a little like a young W, right? That's what a president is supposed to look like. Don't put up another 70-some-year-old guy. Don't do that. I don't want it to be Biden.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I want some guy who looks presidential, who looks like he's from central casting. A little bit younger and spry. Exactly. He should be clever. He should be... It's a popularity contest, right? You should be able to beat that nasty old fat man just on charisma.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And that's how the Democrats would win. Who do they have? Actually, I was just looking two days ago or something. Top Democratic candidates, and I didn't see anyone that, like O'Malley maybe? They'll put a fucking socialist up there. They're certainly not going to put up that literal socialist
Starting point is 00:18:33 that just got elected in New York. They'll put up a fucking socialist up there, and she'll bemoan the people who are like age kin, and they're not able to get their senior discount at Starbucks at age 20. We need guaranteed income, universal basic income for furries. It'll be something like that. Someone who's up there just being a victim and leading a group of victims. And there aren't enough victims to outweigh the Trumpers.
Starting point is 00:19:00 That identity bullshit is the worst. And of course, I wish the Democrats could redefine like those victim assholes in the same way that like the Republicans do with the KKK. Like that is just a tiny little portion off to the fringe. Leave the team. I don't care. Right. Like just the same people that are pro like separating babies at the border. Like, oh, my God, you're just a fuckwad.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Like leave the team. We don't even need you. That's how i feel about those guys so yeah anyway it is interesting i had not thought about who i go through phases and interest and so like recently all my youtubing and stuff has been trying to get better at total war and like diet and fitness like that'll be my world i live in for like a few weeks and then like hockey trades will happen. I'll live there for a week. But yeah, I hadn't given much thought to it. I don't know a single person who they would run.
Starting point is 00:19:52 They got no one. Biden's just too old at this. Biden's older than Trump. And frankly, Trump is too old. Yeah. Like I'm tired of these 70 year olds being in charge. And their incoherent rants. I haven't heard Biden in a while, but I'm
Starting point is 00:20:05 betting that if you put a mic in front of him long enough there's just a word salad that comes out. And I would like to have a president that doesn't do that. Forget the word salad. He used to say some ridiculous shit and do some ridiculous shit. Like everybody forgets how weird Biden was. They call him creepy Uncle Biden.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Creepy Uncle Joe or whatever. That's stuck a little. You know what? That's what Trump would call him if they ran against each other. He'd be creepy Uncle Joe. Creepy Uncle Joe or whatever. That's what Trump would call him if they ran against each other. He'd be Creepy Uncle Joe. Creepy Joe. That's what he'd name him. Creepy Joe over there trying to give kisses to people. Rubbing a little too much. Yeah, he's always kissing children.
Starting point is 00:20:38 He's always being real shoulder grabby with ladies. There are cameras here, Joe. Oh, I know. That's my kink. They're going to watch while I do this to you. Joe is a bit of an exhibitionist. I don't know how important the internet is, but on the internet, he's a meme.
Starting point is 00:20:55 He's like a poodle that chases Obama around, or puppy, I should have said. And I don't know if that sticks very much, if that matters in real life voting. said and i don't know if that sticks very much if that matters in real life voting yeah him being you know basically the dumbass to the way they portray you know obama like that's what the entire joke is is uh you know oh biden this bumbling fool that thank god obama's there to keep him in line like or at least that's like when i see that meme or those memes that's what it seems to be yeah the left is all fucked up right now. They're all shattered. They're not focused on one thing.
Starting point is 00:21:28 They all have different ideas for what they think needs to happen. You've got a bunch of people talking about impeaching Trump. And I don't think those people know who the fucking vice president of the United States is. Okay? He's way more conservative than Trump. If they took five minutes and they went back and read up on that guy, they'd be like, you know what? Trump's doing a good job. You know what?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Maybe, hey, Putin seems like a nice guy, too. Let's just keep things going the way they are. Putin could be vice president if we want. The vice president is a scary conservative. He's the old timey damnation and Old Testament Republican. He is, but I feel like Trump goes that way, too, just for the wins. You guys have heard me say this before. I feel like Trump goes that way too, just for the wins. You guys have heard me say this before. I feel like Trump doesn't really care about his positions very much.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He just cares about winning, right? So when he was for health care, any change would have been fine. He just wanted to be able to say he took down Obamacare. Regardless of what replaced it, he just wanted a win. And the tax bill would have been a win. The infrastructure bill was a win for him. The infrastructure bill would have been a win. Anything that they was a win for him. The infrastructure bill would have been a win. Like anything that they do.
Starting point is 00:22:29 DACA, if he can get that done, the wall. He just wants to post up W's. He doesn't really care what game he plays. And yeah. So when it comes to like putting up a Supreme Court guy, he'll I feel like Trump doesn't have strong feelings on abortion. But, you know. Oh, he doesn't give a shit. Well, I mean, Ivanka's clearly very much in favor of it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And he seems to almost use her as like a weathervane sometimes of like more middle left kind of thinking people. And then adopt what she thinks. He's about to tilt the Supreme Court in a way that would overturn Roe versus Wade so it would go state by state. Possibly. I don't think they'll straight up overturn it. If, like, this guy's not, like, super right wing, the guy they're putting in there. Like, the one that a lot of the Democrats and pro-abortion people were, like, more afraid of was a woman named Amy Barrett, I think it was. She was, like, the, the like if this person gets nominated like
Starting point is 00:23:25 she will you know she's made it very clear she does not want abortion but this guy i think he'll make a lot of narrow decisions and he'll you know i know of the like four big ones on the list this guy was like the least right wing of those four or maybe the second least right wing of those four i like that he's using the same list that he put out there when he during the campaign right i i feel like i feel like he probably wouldn't get that from any other president i i feel you know that's that's definitely an honest thing that trump is doing there you know during the campaign he was like if i pick a supreme court justice it'd be one of these 20 people probably and i would continue the caucus gave him those 20 names they said these are 20 good names he's like all right well fuck, well, fuck. All right, fine with me.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And now he just continues to pick from those. And like you said, to his credit, to do what you said during the election is a rare characteristic in a politician. But on the other side, it ties in with what I see as a guy who never gets into details, right? He's just totally unaware of details. He's negotiating trade deals personally
Starting point is 00:24:24 without knowing details. Picking the Supreme Court, it's almost like, I'm just copying this dude's homework. I'll talk to two of them, pick which one was more personable and call it good. I'm kind of glad that he picked
Starting point is 00:24:40 the more moderate one for this to make sure that he gets in because this guy was uh like unanimously approved or almost near unanimously approved to the circuit court in like oh six like he was one of those people everybody's like all right you're you're good go on through and i'm glad he didn't pick someone that was way more divisive like amy barrett because that would kind of exacerbate it even more well the best part is he could still get a third. He could be the most influential president ever? Influential four-year president that I can remember.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Fucking people on the left have to be pretty frustrated with Ginsburg right now. Being like, you couldn't just resign under Obama, you octogenarian. Because then Obama could have gotten to replace her. Scalia died under him, and that didn't help. He did, but that was like, she could have resigned. A year before the election. Yeah, it was an election year, like for a presidential election year. Like, he approved Kagan, or whatever his name was, in the same situation that's happening now in a midterm year in 2010.
Starting point is 00:25:47 But if she had resigned then, he could have picked her replacement and secured that spot. It just doesn't make sense. I guess she was 100% sure that Hillary would win. But man, that's got to be a hindsight 2020 kind of thing if you're in ginsburg you love to find one of those photos of her at like a hillary party wearing the shirt and everything and crying like with the rest of them like like right when they found out the news those are my favorite videos still like i can still go back to those trump wins montages and just get a real fucking laugh it's just fun to see people who are so so full themselves and so sure of their own victory and celebrating before you know the
Starting point is 00:26:24 the race is over. It's fun to see them lose. If it's literally a bicycle race, right? We've all seen it where the guy's way ahead. He puts his hands up in the air, but some little engine that could was back there just pumping. Not quitting. Just pumping and just beats him at the end. And the guy's just like,
Starting point is 00:26:39 what the fuck? What did I do? I should have went to Wisconsin. Oh, the goddamn rust belt the the funniest part of those compilations is uh the young turks which is a show i don't watch but they're like uh very uber left the young turks it's literally named after the group that was involved in the armenian genocide so like not a very good optic name frankly uh but they they're like cut up editing of it and like the beginning they're so smug so smarmy exactly what kyle was saying they're like new york times says it uh 97 hillary victory huge embarrassment for trump you know like this is ridiculous he
Starting point is 00:27:20 actually thought he was going to get a lot and And then like, as it keeps ticking down, you see like the panic go from, this is kind of real to legitimate panic of them being like you on their broadcast, like all you fucking inbred idiots out there ruining our country. He's like cursing and screaming and freaking out. And like this, this could be it. Everyone,
Starting point is 00:27:42 this could be it. Like, Oh, it's just that kind of what is it schadenfreude is that what they call it very interesting i don't know for sure i don't know none of us are gonna get that one very close i'm sure all right yeah the young turks they're a pain in the ass sometimes every they're just i don't know they don't pretend to be unbiased news so they've got that
Starting point is 00:28:05 going for them but they're still it's not charismatic that's my issue with them schadenfreude schadenfreude pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune schadenfreude if there's anything we should all unite under it's that carbon fiber sucks oh it's the worst it's the worst the terrible alloy i guess i think alloys refer to metals right is is carbon is not a metal isn't it no no it's an it's it's not oh well you learn something new every day. I feel like Kyle's right. Carbon is sometimes an ingredient in certain metals. Like us. I'm not a metal. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It's a chemical element. Ah, is it? Yeah, but I know there's a carbon steel and the carbon content impacts the way it behaves. Yes. But I'm really not a metallurgist. So I've been having one
Starting point is 00:29:05 I would like to get him for PKA 400 it seems like his frustration with us has been renewed such a faggot no he's over there don't do that to him cause he's over there like I don't need them Woody ripped me off
Starting point is 00:29:23 Woody stole my money Woody lies about me I would never do his show Because he's over there like, I don't need them. Woody ripped me off. Woody stole my money. Woody lies about me. I would never do his show. That's not even true. I don't think I've ever lied about him. Of course not. But this is what he says. He's over there with his 300 people.
Starting point is 00:29:33 He says, ooh, P.K. makes fun of me, and I cry, and I'm so pitiful. Well, we do make fun of him, and he does cry, and he is pitiful. So there's some truth in this. They make a million dollars a year, and they owe me that money. They owe me... And Taylor replaced Lefty, but really, he replaced me. Wah! He's going on this whole rant over there about how
Starting point is 00:29:53 he doesn't want to be on the show. And personally, I don't think he'd be any good. He'd sit there like a fucking lump, waiting for us to poke him and get something out. And then he'd make us out to be the bad guy when we asked him how much weight he's lost or something like that. I glad he got the surgery and i'll sit back patiently and watch him lose the weight it's interesting it's fun but he's just a faggot he's being a real asshole about this whole thing i don't want him on the show and i certainly wouldn't pay him we've never
Starting point is 00:30:17 paid anybody i wouldn't pay you you don't pay him we'll pay him especially when it's someone who's over there spreading this ridiculous idea that we somehow owe him money. Especially if price is too high. Like, I swear, if he was like, I won't go on PKA without $100, I might be like, eh, for PKA, $400. $400, yeah. I'd pay him in some sort of weird foreign currency, so by the time the exchange rate was done, he was doing nothing. We're paying you 7 trillion Zimbabwean dollars. That's 65 cents.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He's just being an asshole. Has he done something new recently that's got you particularly frustrated at him, Kyle? Chiz was showing me a thing where he was just talking shit about us. Basically everything I just said, he was just saying that stuff. I saw part of of that I think I didn't sit through all of it But it is fun how he
Starting point is 00:31:11 Often narrows in on me Like Woody's doing this Woody I'm like fuck off Even Lefty voted you off the island It was really a team decision But Anyway In my head We bring him on Like, it was really a team decision. But, anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:25 But I don't know. In my head, we bring him on and whatever, ask him some questions on current events, bury the hatchet, and do one traditional show. Like an old school. Yeah, he doesn't want that, though. He doesn't want that. He's the only part of that.
Starting point is 00:31:39 He feels like, and if you look at it from his retarded point of view, you wouldn't want it either, right? If you felt like you'd been and like ripped off by some people, which is apparently what he thinks. Like he'll say it and then like everyone in his chat will be like, that's not what happened. He'll be like, well, all right, well, maybe that's not true, but it's how I feel. Get out of here. This is pretty accurate. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:32:03 On the other hand, i don't know i was gonna say like look he still has a social media personality and it would be good for him and it'd be an environment where he's not getting extreme sniped all day but i can also yeah i guess i can see his side a little bit but mostly ours mostly i think he just just come on the show and have fun and it'd be good for him and they'd see him in an environment where he's not getting being super pressured he's not here to have fun he doesn't giggle he's not here to conversate okay he's here to grind this out all right conversate in a sentence talking to my wife recently and she's like it was like stop the presses that is not a word and i'm like actually i looked it up i didn't realize it was a word. And I'm like, actually, I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I didn't realize it was a word, but it turns out that it is. And she's like, never use that again. Like, suddenly, you know, like you measure someone on a 1 to 10 scale. I lost three points the second I uttered that word. And I looked it up again, and I didn't realize it said informal. It is like it is not a real word. So. Like, yep.. So like, yep. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Like, yep. But I doubt she has a stronger reaction to yep. Probably not. She probably connects it to wings. Has she seen the music videos? I don't think so. Oh, she's not. You guys do during the day, right?
Starting point is 00:33:26 She. She's not into it. What do you guys do during the day? Right? She, uh... She's... Yeah, she hated Conversate so much that... I don't know. It's like she thought less of me. Just the moment I said it. Imagine what she thinks of Wings. I hate to imagine what she...
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah, so... I'd love to get Jackie on the show and talk about Wings. That would be the fun show, right? know she hates it uh she's not his fan and you know what his superpower doesn't work on her like you know his superpower i've described it many times is he gets people on his side again without particularly doing anything that's the magic of it right like like in most people in life and in your world have to win you back over all wings has to do is nothing and then suddenly it's really a pity thing i don't mean to put it so meanly but i think mostly people just see like this guy's struggling so much how can i be mad at him you know he doesn't need me hating
Starting point is 00:34:22 him what do they really do and uh you know like that's You know, he doesn't need me hating him. What did he really do? And, um, you know, like that's a superpower, but it doesn't work on Jackie. She's just like, ah, he brought all that on himself. He did this repeatedly.
Starting point is 00:34:33 She, you know, she'd be like, you know, when you were making YouTube videos all the time, people gave you a hard time constantly. He didn't do anything wrong. Keep star would make things up all the time.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You know, wings. They're just playing recordings of things he did. That's not how they got me. They didn't get me by playing things I said, usually. Usually they just twist it a little bit, put a little spice on it,
Starting point is 00:34:56 and make it a bigger deal. Yeah. It's easy to fall into that pattern because we're not used to in standard narratives, in our television shows, in our books, in our stories, the bad guy isn't usually a pathetic individual. Usually the bad guy, despite all of his evilness and his faults and flaws, he's a big, strong, kind of good-looking guy. He's just too power-hungry, right? And here we have a scenario where
Starting point is 00:35:25 the bad guy is just a piece of shit and it's it's it something gets caught up in people's brains you're like oh but no no he's dressed up as the as the pitiful guy that we're all nice to right he's the victim that character like no no he's he's the evil slob character evil slob yeah I just alright well Kyle puts his vote for no no forever no anyone who talks shit like that
Starting point is 00:35:57 who thinks they're too good to come on here and also has that warped sense of reality where he thinks he's owed something from us which I could talk for two hours about how he's owed nothing. He went on for like 20 minutes about how we gave Lefty a buyout when he left. Oh, yeah. And he made up a number. He made up a number.
Starting point is 00:36:18 That number was huge. Just a whole – he just made up a whole – Lefty didn't get a buyout. No. Lefty got his contract paid up paid out right he got what he was owed under an older system of paying people even though we were transitioning to sort of a a new way of with with because patreon was becoming a thing and and and there were so many moving parts that we were moving the way the show worked around we paid him like
Starting point is 00:36:43 double what we we should have so that lefty would never. We paid him like double what we should have so that Lefty would never go forward and be like, ah, they kind of ripped me up. We didn't want that to ever be said. And here is Wings going out and saying that when he was never entitled to anything and he's coupling it with this lie about Lefty, which is something he knows nothing about.
Starting point is 00:37:01 These were not open meetings that were like live streamed or something. It was like me, Woody,ody lefty and maybe chiz in a skype call having these conversations determining nobody knows what lefty got i don't think unless we said that uh that wings throughout i think he said did he say 10 grand i think that's what 6400 is in my head but 10 grand is like what he thinks he's like oh Taylor was asking what Wings said I think Wings said 10 grand I think Lefty's number was actually a lot lower than that the show didn't make much money
Starting point is 00:37:30 yeah yeah what it was was we were changing the way that we paid out and Lefty like if I remember right in June it was to his advantage to be one way in July it was to his advantage to be a different way and he it was to his advantage to be a
Starting point is 00:37:45 different way and he just like picked his favorite from each month which wasn't fair we thought and uh in the end we're just like all right have it your way and walk and yeah yeah yeah like like you know like paid him as like an owner and an employee simultaneously or something like that it doesn't matter it's and it's certainly none of wings of redemption's business it's no one's business it's lefty's business right like like it's it's me you and lefty's business and she is to some small extent but it's certainly not wings of redemptions business over there like get out of here with those lies those just flat lies yeah he makes it up ah sprinkle a little truth on there on the top your lie, and you add some bullshit, and it sounds good to like 35 people who are like, yeah, they treated him so poorly. I bet he'd be incredible if it hadn't been for their bad influence on his life.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Just imagine where he'd be today. You know who was also paid out for everything here and on the show? Wings of Redemption. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Zero.
Starting point is 00:38:44 No, we used to have oddball eggs, yeah no we used to have a sell like oh you could get a quarter show half show or full show and stuff like that and uh yeah and you know he's all paid up yeah yeah he got he would like the money from when he wasn't working exactly yes he want he got his700 for those years he worked. Which reminds me, after I left Cisco, the stock price has tripled. I really feel like they owe me $10,000 for that. Well, I think they owe you more.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah. They're a big company. They have plenty of money. They could pay me plenty. Just because I stopped working there doesn't mean they should stop paying me. Jesus, it's not fair. He's still going on about that Raptor, that $70,000 truck.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, somebody was like, what if I donated X amount of money to you right now? He's like, then I'd go out and buy a Raptor. He's on and on about this truck. In fairness, he already has the surgery. So what is he supposed to put it towards? Skin removal? Buying his house. Saving up.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Well, he's always talking about his nest egg. But he's real quick to go to a $70,000 truck. It does cost more than my home. But if you count that I've paid my home off twice, it's pretty close. And the back seat's big. I could live in the truck. You'd have to keep shrinking. In the bed, maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:07 In the bed. You throw a king mattress in that bed, a Casper mattress, let it fill out into all the crevices. Put one of those tonneau covers. Yeah. Tonneau. Maybe the one that opens up with the hydraulic arms. Ah, he's got it made. Made in the shade. What if it was the kind that rolled into a coil at the top and he could unveil that way from foot to head i like it
Starting point is 00:40:33 i think he should not live in a car not in the car in the bed taylor oh that's some standards would you not out of the cabin well he's three from the cabin. You're just going to lay in the hot-ass bed of a truck. That Casper mattress is going to be soaked through with sweat, and it's going to weigh 3,000 pounds. It's going to be a Casper diaper. Just a big, wet, fluid-filled yuck. It's going to blow out the shocks. I don't mind when he says things that are true.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I just don't like it when he goes down that whole road of... And look, I don't think he's trying to necessarily tell a lie. You just have to keep in mind this is someone with a learning disability. So his mind gets a little confused when you guys are asking him questions. And he starts adding in what he thinks might have happened. And suddenly it becomes a reality in his mind and part of the narrative. That's literally what happens. You can see it happen. can see his his mind forming these
Starting point is 00:41:27 ideas and these ridiculous thoughts and throwing them into like factual events and and together he creates this bullshit story like us buying lefty out for many thousands of dollars which is this is complete falsehood we we paid lefty like what he was owed. It wasn't anything above that. We weren't like, all right, well, this is your, what do you call it when you give someone a bonus when they leave? Severance. Yeah, this is your severance package. There was no severance package, and that's what he's referring to.
Starting point is 00:41:59 He's making it sound like, all right, Lefty, we owe you $500. Here's that. And since this is the last time we're ever doing business, here's a good $8,000 on top of it. Thanks for doing business with us, et cetera, et cetera. Like, no, of course not. Didn't do that. And I wouldn't pay him a cent for his time.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I would pay Lefty, I guess, if I thought he was interesting. I wonder if we still have his phone number. Could we just call him? See how that goes? Yeah. I don't know still have his phone number. Could we just call him? See how that goes? Yeah. I don't know if that's a good idea. I got nothing against Lefty. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And I feel like that's the best way to put it. I'm not a huge Lefty fan. I don't love Lefty. But I never had anything against Lefty. He seemed like a nice enough guy. I was mad at him at the end of the show he was he acted foolishly from a business standpoint at the end of the show but i don't think it came from a place of um greed or or stupidity or anything like that he was just kind
Starting point is 00:42:56 of um got he's kind of cold-footed about the whole thing and a little silly here's how i remember it towards the end um like he had tasks that were his and he like wanted contracts in place and he would just routinely go on like worker strikes threaten not to do the show threaten just not do his job and stuff and leave it to me actually and i i thought it was really kind of like like oh my god like you just going on strike constantly you know like we're waiting for the attorney to get back to us. You're going on strike. Like, why are you so quick to do this?
Starting point is 00:43:29 And I didn't like that. But he would threaten to leave the show and we would have to like beg for him not to leave. And I didn't enjoy that process, which is how he left eventually. He was like, he threatened to leave. And I was just like, I was hoping you'd say that. You know, I had been planning on accepting the next threat for the last week and uh yeah you know i appreciate you doing it yeah i definitely remember that part like where we had agreed that like next time he he's just like all right well that's that's my breaking point i gotta go if you don't yeah pay for my breaks or whatever
Starting point is 00:43:59 whatever silliness he was he was wanting stuff and like and um so there was that and then there was uh there's another thing oh after he left he's like let's not tell anyone that it was about anything business related let's tell them that it was about creative differences and i always felt like it painted us as kind of being an asshole like we couldn't work out creative differences instead of i don't even know what that would mean Me neither right We wanted to go in a different direction Yeah so we let him do that And then he goes on Twitter
Starting point is 00:44:33 And starts like Remember the line in particular Someone said it was about money And he's like you'd make a hell of a darts player And we're like fuck it Gloves are off we're telling the whole truth And that's so i was a little salty you know he laid out his terms several times and then just kept changing them
Starting point is 00:44:53 and changing them and changing them with his pretend lawyer stuff and it was really hard to work with i remember the pretend lawyer stuff it was so funny like his dad's supposed to be an attorney and we like we're gonna is an attorney i think right his dad's supposed to be an attorney and we like we're gonna is an attorney i think right his dad's supposed to be an attorney and uh we needed uh come on don't ruin my joke here sorry sorry sorry we tell truths on this i'm making fun of lefty's father don't you see and um and we need an attorney to like do some like business contract stuff and like oh well he's he that that's not his area of the law contracts no no contracts in his type okay all right all right yeah yeah i remember that we did try to use his father we were like hey just you know and we were like you should be thrilled with this we save on some legal costs and we'll make sure that it's just fair for everyone no one's trying to screw anyone. Have your dad write it personally.
Starting point is 00:45:46 That wasn't a go. No, no. They probably didn't run into each other often, except when he came up out of the basement. His father lived upstairs, yeah. Get something to... That makes sense. You did it again! You stepped on me!
Starting point is 00:45:55 You stepped on Lefty! Sorry. I thought I was partnering with you, not stepping on you. I've been playing more Total War, Kyle will have to play soon I'm ready in time, yeah I'm definitely down You have a new skill set? Is that you're excited about showing off?
Starting point is 00:46:17 I'm winning most of my fights with a couple select factions and then with every other faction I'm having so much more trouble. Especially like the large unit factions where you have to micro so much more like the Skaven or, help me Kyle,
Starting point is 00:46:34 who are the other large unit factions that are just like hordes? Greenskins. Greenskins. They have so much unit variation the Greenskins, I don't even play with them. It's bizarre. Greenskins are very weird. I like that they're there though. It's a really creative gamekins are very weird. I like that they're there, though. It's a really creative game that there are so many different factions and they do all play so differently
Starting point is 00:46:49 from one another despite the fact that it's a video game or whatever. Lizardmen, I like a lot. They're my favorite far and away. Them and Warriors of Chaos, but I don't think Warriors of Chaos are as good. I think the Lizardmen are a better faction, if that makes sense. It depends on the matchup a lot, because
Starting point is 00:47:06 like, you know, warriors don't have ranged units. They don't have archers. So, if they go up against the Dark Elves or the High Elves or the Wood Elves, any of the really strong ranged unit factions, they just get fucking mowed down before they can close the distance, right? Or even against
Starting point is 00:47:21 maybe the Skaven, if they, depending on the map, if they're going up against a bunch of catapults or laser guns or something like that, they just get fucked. But yeah, I'll definitely play some later tonight if you want to or whenever you're on. I heard that Nitty beat you. He was telling me that he just trounced you the other night.
Starting point is 00:47:40 So that was interesting to hear from him. Oh. Yeah, that's not the way it went down. No, he explained it very well. He said that he and his Japanese friend just pulled your pants down and made you look like a fool. I believe were his exact words. His exact words. Well, what really happened is it was 2v2.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I was lined up against Middy, and Class was lined up against... I didn't know the guy was Japanese, that that adds to the realism of the fact that this guy was fucking good and class is better than me by by a good bit and so every time partner yeah 2b2 and every time we'd play like i never had any worries i'm like all right i just need to worry about handling my guy because class is gonna wipe up his dude like i it didn't even cross my mind to be worried about his side of the battle most of the time because he was just he was trouncing people and so it gets to be like 70 of the way through that battle and i'm cleaning midi up like i'm i'm finishing his side of the battle and i'm like like this has gone so well like man i'm like i'm feeling
Starting point is 00:48:40 really good about this i'm like how you doing, class? And he's like, not good. Not good. And I'm like, what do you mean, not good? You need me to send a couple units? He's like, oh, no, you'll see them soon. They had wiped class out, and now Mr. Japan was marching his army of whatever the hells, dark elves, I think, over to me. But when he got over there, I couldn't handle it. He wiped me out. Yeah, that's what midi said happened yeah oh i i figured but uh yeah that's very frustrating
Starting point is 00:49:11 when like my best game ever well not really my best game i it was pretty clear that midi didn't know what he was doing that much like i was like there's no way he's gonna let me just walk this contingent of three units and just calmly place them behind his oh my god he's letting me do it now they're like his all his units were just like in a ball just getting fucked uh but then do you think that if you had partnered with class earlier like if he had put up a little like help me sign you might have had better luck because it seems like you could have beat midi with two thirds of your effort i i could have if he would have told me earlier i definitely could have sent some stuff over because i think i was playing either warriors of chaos or the dinos and even if i didn't send my whole army i could just send kolek the big general and he can fuck shit up on his own you know just charge back and forth between
Starting point is 00:49:57 armies so yeah to be wanting the whoever the other guy is is probably the best scenario if you're playing with midi uh littleMid's been really struggling picking this game up. He's trying hard. It's a strategy game, right? With lots of micro? Yeah, a lot of micro. That's the hardest part of it.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And then being patient with the micro is hard too. When you're like, everybody's in the middle of a battle on the front line and you're like, alright, I need to take this unit and get's in the middle of a battle on the front line. You're like, all right, I need to take this unit and get it on a flanking position. And it takes them a while to, like, march over there and do it. And sometimes, like, if you're not feeling patient, you'll be like, ah, fuck that, just run in and attack from the side
Starting point is 00:50:35 instead of from the rear. And then it's like, damn it, well, I didn't get the rear charge bonus, and now their leadership, they're not going to crumble as quickly. A lot of it is patience. He can attack on a forward diagonal. That's kind of like flanking see not at all by this game there's a huge difference between attacking from the side and getting like a rear charge but yeah i'm having a lot of fun with that game yeah yeah i think i want to i keep getting drawn into witcher like i'm looking for a game I can just play on my own and goof around.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Witcher's not the one. You don't like those games. Is Witcher a first-person game? It's a role-playing game. It's a gigantic open-world RPG. No, I thought it was... I guess I pictured it a little like Borderlands. I like that game.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Skyrim. I want something a little more on rails than that. Maybe Far Cry? I mean, there's a main story, but... Far Cry? I don't play Far Cry. But I think that the newest one is pretty open world as well. I'm sure you've got a mission that sort of keeps you, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:35 motivated to solve it or whatever. I haven't played it, but I've just watched some videos of it. But yeah, The Witcher is... I don't know. It's beautiful. It's incredible. It's one of the best looking games in existence. Maybe I'll literally play the new COD
Starting point is 00:51:48 single player and just goof about with that. I haven't played a COD campaign in seven years. A Call of Duty developer reached out to me. He said he wanted to give me a free game. I should get back to him. I'm just an asshole because he's a paramotor pilot and a fan of mine nice take advantage of oh is this recently three weeks ago oh so it'd be
Starting point is 00:52:12 like the new call of duty yeah give it a go yeah he's working on is it triarch this time about to come who's about to come out with it raven i don't isn't it the world war ii one or is that that was the last i haven't been paying attention to be honest. I knew it and then I forgot. I think it's I think the World War II one is already out. So this is Black Ops 4
Starting point is 00:52:33 so that's got to be Treyarch. Is it the World War II one? So Black Ops 4 is the next one? Yeah. I'm pretty sure he was from Treyarch. Not positive but yeah. So that'd be neat. I'm pretty sure he was from Treyarch. Not positive, but yeah. So that'd be neat. I should reach back to him.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Trying to see. There's a multiplayer revealed trailer for it. 11 million views. That's probably not a good sign. Yeah, what note did they used to get? Man, it feels like they used to get 100 million right or maybe they got 11 million and at the time that was a lot
Starting point is 00:53:11 right the standards change let's see Modern Warfare 2 trailer let's see 10 million views on the Modern Warfare 2 trailer but that was eight years ago Let's look at it. Yeah, infinite warrior warfare two years ago at 40 million. Can we watch this together? Yeah
Starting point is 00:53:36 Let me just make sure I've got it queued up. Okay. Yeah, I've got it I notice almost even likes and dislikes but ready set play play the gadgets for the local and the way the lasers and shit barbed wire on the ground so it's not world war two unless we did not get an extra representation actually it looks pretty COD-like to me. They're not flying around. That was pretty neat. The game looks half as good obviously.
Starting point is 00:54:18 It flips back and forth between gameplay and cutscenes. Yeah, yeah. Look at that little clip. That was cool. I got a triple yeah oh that shield protected him from helicopters so it looked like there was no splash damage on the um on the chopper gunner building these portable barriers are pretty cool. Yeah, maybe for domination.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I think that's how he's using it. What's he doing over here? Oh god! Oh, he burned? I wonder if you hurt yourself. I did a portable microwave! Yeah, that's what that was. Oh, you can fire underwater.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Hold your breath and lurk a certain amount of time? See through walls! Anti-camper. You know there's gonna be a perk that fixes that. It says they're going live. Oops. Trip wires? It looked like a laser trip device that would go over the surface of the water so if anyone came up it would be safe kill's coming what did he say? kill's coming? he's got his noob tube! oh, that's an effective noob tube
Starting point is 00:55:38 I wonder if that's a noob tube or a kill streak it looked like a kill streak yeah, it looked like a kill streak yeah, it looked yeah, kill streak. I like how there aren't any robots. I gotta say it looks pretty fucking good. Yeah, I was just gonna say what's with the dislikes on this youtube video let's see what comments i mean oh i know what it is it's a season pass oh say no to black ops pass yeah i i figured as much yeah there's a lot of people very upset about the season pass and the that's right because the season pass is practically required to get the whole game
Starting point is 00:56:25 yeah like we would all want the season pass if you were going to play this game with your friends three nights a week or something like that and party up and care you gotta have the season pass you gotta basically pay double for the game and i'm guessing probably it sounds like the season pass is uh 60 bucks and then you get all the maps and weapons and all the gadgetry. Probably for the whole year, season. Yeah. But you know how they are, though. They'll be like, oh, yeah, this is the season pass, $60.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And you're like, all right, I'll buy it. And they're like, oh, but don't you want the exploding helmet mod? Yeah, I do want that. $30 more. Your gun doesn't even look like it has bacon on it. Yeah. It's upsetting. To me, Call of Duty, back when I played it,
Starting point is 00:57:11 the last two or three years, it was a $120 game in the first place. I always had the season pass. It was just a thing. So it's not that new, but I guess it's becoming more and more required. Here's what I bet. If anyone plays this on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:57:25 they're going to not buy the season pass because it always matches you with bad players and that's what YouTubers want. I don't know. If you're a COD YouTuber, you probably want to show off that new content, right? For a little bit and then they uninstall it. They've been doing that for half a decade now. It always frustrated me. Yeah, I got rid of all that. The new maps
Starting point is 00:57:42 are bad. They're always taking the game. It used to be the game was 80% done, and then you get the last 20% with the pass. What they've done now to ensure you can't do that almost is like, all right, you get 38% of the game, but if you want zombies or to play on more than three maps, you got to pay for all this. I don't blame people for not wanting to do it.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I wouldn't pay 120 or 100 to to play cod interesting yeah because it seems like pc games have gotten cheaper right and so pc in the xbox world the console world games are all like 60 bucks i think like every game i can think of they all seem to be about the same price and you pick the game based on quality in the pc world they're like oh this one's early release this is a little game this is a big game not everything is 60. so yeah like how much is fortnite free that's cheaper than i expected can you win like what do you get for buying stuff just dances and things yeah yeah it's just it's cosmetics it's all cosmetics they sell man i wish we could
Starting point is 00:58:46 have done that at woody craft there's two things about it one minecraft mojang the company was very specific about making it hard to sell some cool cosmetics like you couldn't give people hats you couldn't give people capes you couldn't give people a lot of the things that would have been more fun and uh and two like players just didn't seem to buy it but were there a lot of the things that would have been more fun and uh and two like players just didn't seem to buy it but were there a lot of spongebob squarepants avatars or like was that a popular skin because you would think that that's the one that fits the minecraft character oh i see what you're saying no um a lot of them you know so on my server, people did cool stuff, I thought. Like, okay, every Christmas, which was real popular, like populations would peak around then,
Starting point is 00:59:31 people were having ugly Christmas sweaters on their character. It was fun. And a lot of times they were like, they'd have their skin. Like, this is what this guy looks like. He's got a big chain, like a 1980s rapper. And he'd have that over his ugly christmas sweater like they just kept their things and so there's a lot of that there were some naked people uh if the naked people were too explicit sometimes we'd ask him to change it
Starting point is 00:59:55 because like you know parents might be unhappy with it yeah all sorts of different stuff and not much spongebob show me that eight bit cock yeah yeah and i'm like okay your character has pubic hair ahead and come on his thigh like this one needs to change sorry at least go wash him up yeah like you know bro like i feel like you know what you're doing with this skin and you're gonna lose the pubic hair is that it because it's just going to make the shaft look bigger that would be a funny conversation to have with a player like no put shorts on keep the cum on the thigh that's funny but put shorts on we need to put shorts on cock hanging out the fly yeah well i i don't know i i'll see what the the deal with call of duty on pc is i guess because i'd rather play it on pc i'm looking at discord right now and there are five people playing modern
Starting point is 01:00:53 warfare 2 on pc right now so like i i feel like out of your friends or yeah oh okay yeah everybody is on modern warfare 2 playing playing that on pc right now. So I don't know. Maybe I can get them to get into COD on PC, this new COD on PC. I guess you can... They convinced us back in the day that without a mouse and keyboard skills, great mouse and keyboard skills, you'd be uncompetitive. But you plug in a controller and you're okay, it seems. Wings plays Rainbow with a controller. He plays PlayStation, though.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Oh. I thought that he played PC, too, but you're probably right. He comes on to PC some... I could be wrong about this, but I think that he has come on to PC before, and perhaps he used the controller then, but I would imagine he saw that that was a no-go, because especially with a game like Rainbow,
Starting point is 01:01:41 that's like playing fucking Counter-Strike without a mouse and keyboard. That's going to go nowhere. Oh, because I think I remember hearing him argue that he did fine, that it wasn't that big a difference. He was like, your PC players have a better flick. That's it. That's all that they do.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And I'm like, does a better flick mean better aim? Because that's actually really important in a shooter. That's like Shroud's whole thing. Flicking on target and killing them fast. I'm watching more and more Shroud. We're past an hour, but I'm excited about Shroud's whole thing. About flicking on target and killing them fast. I'm watching more and more Shroud. We're past an hour, but I'm excited about Shroud. That guy is amazingly good at video games. I told you.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I told you. It's incredible. It's incredible. That word is overused, but it fits with him. It is incredible. So it's one thing to have good aim, i've seen before i've seen people who can lock on to a target this guy has good aim in games that have like bullet travel time and bullet drop this guy can hit a guy zooming by on a motorcycle by aiming like just above and in front of him. And it is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:45 He wins. I'm watching highlights. But it seems like he wins every gunfight. He just confidently knows that he'll be better than whoever the other guy is. And that's how he goes into it. Yeah. Yeah. If he's driving along and someone shoots at him,
Starting point is 01:03:02 when we are driving along, Chiz and I, for example, someone shoots at us, we're like, oh, that was a close one. He slams on the brakes. He's like, you did not shoot at my car. He goes over there and fucking wipes the guy out, takes all his shit, gets back in the car and leaves.
Starting point is 01:03:21 He takes every fight he could possibly get. It's very rare to see him like disengage which is something we do a lot you know they're like oh this is a terrible position we're shooting up a hill they're peeking over rocks and we're aiming at up out of windows let's just leave he doesn't do that he just he takes almost every single engagement he wins almost every single engagement like you said unbelievable and now i'm watching him play rainbow which is interesting because it seems to be a game that really favors campers. There are so many wacky lines of sights with people shooting through, like, heating vents in the walls.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Punch holes in the wall. You can punch a small hole in the wall. That's a good point. And there are natural holes in, like, the floor, which might be your ceiling. And it is just hard to move in that place. And then players have different abilities that like oh yeah this is a really great place to set a trap you know it'll explode nearby and yeah it rainbows very complicated game and it's not just aiming so he doesn't actually crush in that game yeah i don't i don't think
Starting point is 01:04:17 anybody does really you know like maybe they do i don't know but um i i love watching him play pubg and uh whenever something new comes out, he'll play it. Any kind of Battle Royale game or anything like that, he'll play it. And it's fun to watch him play his first game ever of a certain game. I can't remember what the game was, but there's this RPG. There's this, what do you call it, Battle Royale game that's like Mad Max. Oh, I think I saw him play it he won the he lost his first game and it was kind of a bullshit death lately he's like oh okay so that's
Starting point is 01:04:52 the trigger you know it was one of those moments yeah he didn't know what he's doing then he won the second game i think he won the third game too late like he often does that the first game he'll play of something he'll win it xcal used to be like that, too. He probably still is. But he'd be like, yeah, look, there's a new map here. He has no map knowledge. But he knows about maps. So he doesn't navigate it stupid, even though he's never seen it before. And he's good with aim. And it just does well on first tries.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And it's pretty impressive. We've talked about Shroud on the show before. And I'll get these private messages from people. They're they're like just so you know he's a cheater and they'll send me like all this like proof supposedly that he's cheated and i'll watch it and it's just him owning at the game did you see he got banned uh what do you get banned for he uh teamed with cheaters so he did he got in the car with him uh even more um like he he got into a car with him and they flew around but before that he was like all right i'm gonna post up in this building you run out there and grab loot and bring it to me and stuff like that like he teamed
Starting point is 01:05:57 with him uh yeah but to be honest when he does that i watch him do this a lot when he does stuff like that it it it's definitely not so that he can win the game. It's to provide some sort of entertainment. He has these stream snipers. He'll have 20, 25 stream snipers in every single game who will make it their mission to get to where he is. And some of
Starting point is 01:06:18 them are friendly stream snipers. They're there to chat with him or to be silly. And they won't kill him. They'll never kill him. They'll even bring him loot um there's they'll they'll bring him like the best loot they'll go to like one of the crates the supply drops and like ah here you go one of a kind rival here it's yours and uh he'll always kill them after they do it but sometimes he'll be like hey wadu run out there and uh and shoot your gun a little bit and and you know as soon as they kill him he'll kill the other guy it But that doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 01:06:46 That's what he was doing. I would say there's a little more bad twist on it when the people bringing him loot can't die. It seemed like he was having his invincible minions return loot to him. Oh, they're not invincible. That's definitely a thing. Okay. Well, I'm outside my depth, really. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:04 But, yeah, I think they were traveling in ways that you can't travel. The room that he was getting, the room that he was posted up in, was impossible to enter because there was a car inside the building blocking the doorway. So, and you can't get a car in the building. It's on the second floor. It went through a window. Like, this is not a thing. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:26 I don't mind that because I feel like he's not – he streams eight hours a day, right? Like, at least. Like, that's his – I do hear you. He streams – he tries to hit 60 hours a week. And among those 60 hours of playing games, that was probably the only time anything like that happened, really. You know what I mean? Like, he's just destroying every fucking lobby he gets into
Starting point is 01:07:47 it's something different to see yeah exactly i feel like it's just for entertainment it's if anything it's bringing more viewers to that game you know he's he's so huge on that game they should be kissing his ass left and right they said that in the stream i think it wasn't him i think it was another person in the room the real life room with with him, saying like, they can't ban you. They can't. There's 80,000 people playing this game and 60,000 watching you. You are such a big part of this game
Starting point is 01:08:12 that they can't ban you. Turns out that they can. Oh, he got banned from PUBG. I thought Twitch. I thought it was a temporary Twitch ban, which would be real shitty. But it's just a PUBG ban. Yeah, and he says he can play on a different account.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Ah. So he just can't. Yeah, that's super lame of him. I almost wish that he would switch games now. They shouldn't be. He seems to have. Because he can play PUBG on a different account. But he seems to be on Rainbow a lot
Starting point is 01:08:41 and like that new game you mentioned. I think he's looking for his next game. And unlike a lot of people, casually watch shroud i'm not the the kind of audience that really makes some money but i would follow shroud to almost any game you know like if he plays cod if he plays rainbow if he plays battlefield like what he does like even as a guy who's not gaming right now is is amazing. Yeah, it's really fun to watch. He's so good.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Because I think maybe it's more fun for me because I play the game. And there are situations that you'll live in and situations you'll die in. It's kind of a fair game. And he'll do things where I would have just given up if I were in his scenario. There's eight people out there that all are trying to kill you, and it's just you. I mean, we'll start to throw a grenade at him, I guess. He's Rorschach in prison.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah, he'll just go through them all. He'll just go through them all. It's really fun. He doesn't seem to get frazzled ever. I've been so pumped up before and so excited or scared or afraid or whatever playing that my hands went numb. I was like, I got gotta shake my hands out. Gotta shake them out. The adrenaline's too high. Too high.
Starting point is 01:09:49 They're literally numb from the elbow down. They're tingly. I can't feel my fucking... My teammates are like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm getting the blood back in my hands. That's funny. Yeah, he's amazing. Call it a show? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Alright, PKN 204.

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