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All right, PKN, episode 207. Kyle, you wanted UFC talk?
Yeah, I sent you your $5. I was definitely wrong. Cody Garbrandt is not as good as TJ Dillashaw, and now I believe he just never will be.
TJ was just ferocious, just all over Cody, and Cody got some good shots in.
I mean, Dillashaw's eye looks like a battered housewife, but he won the fight,
and that's all that matters. I will say
this. In the first round, right? First round.
And maybe
two and a half minutes into it or something. It didn't seem like
it took very long at all. It was over.
Henry
Cejudo beating Demetrius Johnson,
breaking his enormous win streak. I thought I called both of those.
I did as well.
I was with you on the Henry Cejudo thing,
thinking that he had a good shot.
I'll say this.
Henry immediately called out TJ.
What he did was call out the winner of the main event,
which is TJ.
He don't want none of that.
He don't want none of that.
And frankly, I now see why Demetrius Johnson wouldn't either.
That 10 pounds of weight is a gargantuan distance.
It might as well be 50 pounds as far as – TJ looks so much more athletic, so much more powerful than either Henry or Demetrius Johnson.
I don't think either one of them could hang with Dillashaw.
Dillashaw's a beast.
Long rumored to be on steroids,
by the way.
And he doesn't pass the eye test either.
He's got the pointy nipples.
Passes the USADA test, though.
He does, yeah.
TJ Dillashaw was going up
against Cody Garbrandt the first time.
I'm sure you know this,
but the audience might not.
And Cody's like,
you're on steroids man
you're actually the one who taught all of us how to use steroids and we're just like you fucking
bonehead like this is the worst like like you're the guy who taught me how to do injections like
oh you dick like now now it sounds like you're all on roids yeah i thought that was a good
accusation chad mendez got caught for him and he was from the camp that I guess TJ would have taught.
So anyway, yeah, I didn't see the fight.
I was at a fly-in this weekend and unavailable.
But I did see the ends of all the fights,
the highlights and spoilers and stuff.
And yeah, good stuff.
Good stuff.
So DJ lost.
DJ was the other big fight against Cejudo.
But I guess he broke his foot early on.
Nah, nah.
It was just cumulative.
It was over the course of the thing.
I'm not sure if it's even broken.
It's just swollen, right?
I saw him in the press conference talking about it.
And they were like, you know, was it any particular thing?
It's just cumulative.
He was kicking him with the end of his foot the whole fight.
I thought DJ won that fight.
I don't think they scored his leg kicks
very well. And I think they, they, they miss scored, I guess, Henry's, uh, control on the
ground because Henry couldn't posture up and get anything done. He couldn't, he got no punches from
the top. Maybe if anything, DJ did more damage from the bottom than Henry was doing from the top.
When he would get him down, he would just kind of over under and hug and just try to squeeze him as close to his own chest and lay on him as much as he could.
Because every time he gave him any space, DJ's so fucking athletic, he would like do this back flip and then pop up off of his shoulders thing and just be up and ready to strike again.
It was very impressive.
If they fight that one again, I think DJ wins it.
I wasn't impressed with Henry Cejudo.
And I really did think that DJ won that fight at the end.
I was surprised when he said, and no!
Also, I can't think of a fighter who's been more deserving of a rematch
in the history of mixed martial arts than Demetrius Johnson, right?
Like, he broke the record for the most title defenses, right?
So there he is.
He's the most dominant champion to have ever been a champion.
And he lost via controversial split decision.
You know, those are the kind of guys you give a rematch to.
But I don't know where I got the broken foot thing.
But I saw a little video where he was saying that he was really happy he bought this home icing machine for his broken foot. I don't know where I got the broken foot thing, but I saw a little video where he was saying that he was really happy he bought this home icing machine for his broken foot.
It may have been broken.
It wasn't holding back at all.
It was just by the end of the fight, it seemed like humiliating.
I mean, his foot's definitely swollen.
It looks awful.
He also said that he didn't enter the fight with a broken foot.
They asked him.
Oh, definitely not.
And he was like, no, no, no, it happened during the fight.
And that, like, and that to me was him not making an excuse,
just explaining what happened during the fight.
Like, if you break my orbital bone during the fight,
well, yeah, it's not like you got lucky or something.
Part of the goal is not to have broken orbital bones
or feet or arms or something.
You know, better technique, better placement. Like, if you broke your foot then you know it didn't go right so yeah yeah i i definitely
enjoyed the fights um there were a lot of celebrities there chris pratt was there uh it
was cool to see him he had good seats uh i i saw but but nate diaz is being an absolute piece of
shit shocker right isn't that kind of his shtick like yeah if he wasn't an absolute piece of shit. Shocker. Right? Isn't that kind of his shtick?
Yeah.
If he wasn't being a piece of shit, nobody would care, right?
What did he do?
Was he bullying people?
So amongst other things, they had the press conference the other day announcing he's going to fight Poirier.
Right.
That's coming up.
Poirier is number three guy, and they're giving that fight to Nate,
which is a great deal for Nate.
Nate should be overjoyed with that, that they're bumping his ass.
He's like eighth or twelfth, somewhere in there, ranked in the world.
But they're like, no, you're a big name.
We're going to let you fight number three.
And hey, if you win this, then you're number three pretty much,
and then you get a title shot after that.
You want Habib? You want Conor again?
Win against Poirier.
Well, I guess at the end of the press conference...
Was this the guy who had beaten Conor before?
Yeah, they beat 1-1.
So at the end of the press conference,
they announce Conor versus
Khabib.
No one had any foreknowledge of this.
Nate jumps up out of his seat when he sees this on the screen
behind him and fucking storms out. And then he's like arguing with tmz outside he's mad i don't know
if you know woody but the reason he claims he hasn't been fighting the last two years is because
he has an ongoing lawsuit with his former representation the reason there's a lawsuit is
right before he got the the connor fight number two which was massive payday let's call it four million dollars with points and uh like purse uh he fired them right before he signed the deal so they wouldn't
get their fucking cut so they sue him of course because it's horse shit you can't just we've been
representing you up to this point and then dana's like yeah man we're gonna get you in that fight
like ah you guys are fired i don't need you You needed him every step of the way getting to here.
You can't just fire them.
So obviously they've been suing him and he couldn't fight.
These UFC fighters have so many problems that could be solved
by not surrounding yourself with just yes men.
Because you know all the fighters around them.
He's like, I'm going to fire my whole representative team.
So he's like, oh, have you peered through the contract, buddy?
Because I'm entirely sure you can't do that.
I'm actually not sure.
No, nobody said that.
With Kyle on this, if Nateate negotiated the four million dollar deal and i don't know if he did
then i feel like this management shouldn't get it cut you know well if they called up nate while he
was drinking on that boat or wherever the hell he was and he's like yeah four million and they say
good then you know the law disagrees um because nate nate okay because nate is going to
have to pay off pay them off so that he can do this fight that's what he's decided to do he's
he's because clearly he's going to lose he so and he's been told he's going to lose i'm sure so he's
just like all right i'll pay them off i'll go back to fighting and earn some more money and i guess
i don't know if he's got if he's they're probably not representing him for this
representing for the fight so now he's getting a hundred grand too yeah that'd be know if he's got – they're probably not representing him for this. No, probably not. So now he's getting $100,000.
Yeah, that'd be great.
But he's being a real bitch about this whole thing.
He's saying that maybe he won't fight Poirier.
Maybe he just won't show up.
And then they gave him tickets last night.
He called Dana, asked for tickets to the show last night – or Saturday night, the most recent show.
He didn't show up.
He just didn't show up.
Just let those seats go empty. On a night when they're in L.A. and there's celebrities there.
I'm sure he said no to lots of people.
He said he did.
So he's just being a fucking asshole.
I saw GSP was asked if he would be interested in the Nate Diaz fight.
He was like, oh, I got offered Nate Diaz.
I wish I could do his silly accent.
I got offered Nate Diaz.
That doesn't interest me.
I already beat his silly accent. I got offered Nate Diaz. That doesn't interest me.
I already beat his older brother up.
It'd be good money, but I'm not interested.
Not good for my legacy.
He's probably set for life.
He's one of the big best of all time, right?
GSP.
I think he is.
And GSP is also known for doing well outside the octagon.
He's got all his passive income streams sorted out and Gatorade endorsements and crap like that.
So I think he is set for life.
But what he did say in his interview is he wants the winner of Conor Habib.
That would be a legacy bump.
That would be good for his legacy.
Legacy.
And I don't know how they would do that. They talked about him going to 155.
Uh, and, and I don't know how they would do that. They talked about him going to 155 and he was like, you know, I think I could go to 155 because I walk around at about 182, 183 pounds. That's
what I am right now. Habib walks around at 195 pounds. That's what he is somewhere right now.
So if he can cut to 155, I certainly can. I'm not a fan of those big weight cuts, but I can do it.
The only issue is every time I take one of these belts in the in the organization i immediately relinquish it right and they don't like that so
if i were to go in and and beat habib or connor and take the 155 belt and then just meh i really
i you know he did he say all this yeah oh wait so does does he win the belt and then be like i'm
done yeah then they're like all right well I guess it goes back to the other guy.
Yeah.
They're left cleaning up after him,
after he comes in and takes one of these champions out.
Yeah, what an asshole way to ruin the excitement.
It'd be like, Ovechkin,
you gotta be excited after winning the Stanley Cup.
How does it feel?
I don't even want it.
Yeah.
I'm going back to Russia.
Fuck this stupid trophy like well that's
part of it the other part of it is now sydney crosby becomes the new champion and everyone
knows in their heads that it's really ovechkin who's the best the pittsburgh wins again yeah
oh well that's so that's really interesting i'd like to see that uh they should make like a rule
that you have to follow up at least once if you take the title
right well how do you enforce that you can't make that rule unless that like every time they're
doing like michael jordan style retirements they're like i'm retired yes yes that's exactly
what he did okay well like most recently he was looking how much i know all my common ideas are
like yeah and obviously that doesn't work because it was the first thing they mentioned yeah the
challenge is though that like if you're the ufc you're like man like okay connor versus mayweather right that was a one-off
fight but there was so much money in it that it made sense connor versus gsp perhaps the same
thing right you know we all know that if gsp wins it ruins the 155 division because everyone will
secretly know he's the best at that he's the best at 185 and we can assume if he's the best at 185 and the best at 155 where does he fit at 170 you know everywhere
in between yeah yeah right so if he does that to the ufc everyone knows gsp is the man and you have
all these other paper champs who are only chance because gsc gsp didn't beat him up who is the
winner in your view between mcgregor and uh habib and gsp if that happened
shit i don't know if anybody can fucking beat gsp he's so goddamn talented he's so good at so
many things he's such a physical specimen he's so like focused on what he's doing like like you
don't see him doing any any nonsense you don't see him i i i wouldn't be surprised if he's one of those guys who like abstains from sex but when he's when he's training right you know like like
he seems like that he's just so pure and seems like such a good canadian boy that like i i don't
know if connor can can deal with that i don't know if anybody can it even near his weight i always
pick the grapplers to win but i'm not always right you
know there's no one better at like connor does this thing where he like puts his arm on you and
you can't take him down it's very hard to take connor down you know chad did it a couple times
and didn't win the fight but i just feel like gsp's different i think he'll yeah is uh gsp's
level of popularity in quebec kind of like mcor in Ireland, where he's immediately a giant pole just because everybody there loves him.
You know, I'd like to know what the actual numbers of people are,
because the thing to me, and maybe I'm wrong about this,
it doesn't seem like Canada is as big of a fighting country,
whereas the Irish are just a drunk, violent race of people.
I feel like every Irishman that exists loves...
Kind of like the gypsies in that regard.
But this isn't...
Oh, you know, I'm just trying to get along here.
This isn't that Canada. This is Quebec.
Like, they're kind of doing their own thing over there.
Like, a lot of them don't even want to be part of Canada.
They want to break off and be their own
shit. Like, I wasn't sure if that was
a regional thing. GSP was very
popular. Some of the biggest gates
in the UFC history were in
canada because gsp would fight there when gsp retired one of the times uh canadian mma got
less popular in general like they were really just into it because of him so he's a big draw
but you said as much as connor and i mean i just no one's ever been as big a draw as connor he's
unique in that regard yeah you, when his movie came out,
I've mentioned it before,
but it was the number one film in Ireland
for several weeks, you know,
and there were big movies out.
Like, there were Marvel movies coming out and shit.
Like, Black Panther?
Yeah, if GSP's film doesn't come out,
it doesn't beat The Avengers or anything in Canada.
He's really big in that particular country of
7 million people. The UFC needs to go
to Russia. That's what I want.
I want to see... Dude, I
agree with you so much. I don't know what makes
that unfeasible,
but something must. Because Dana White likes making
money, right?
If he could make more
rubles in Russia than he could make dollars
in Vegas, he'd do it.
I'm making this up.
Is it a mob thing?
Right?
Is it just too much mob to deal with?
Honestly, I feel that too.
Yeah.
I'm like, are they afraid of what might happen if they go there?
Are the mob going to get Connor?
Are they going to like fucking cut his fingers off?
He has issues with the Russian mob too, right?
No, it's the Irish mob.
I don't think it's just the Irish mob, though.
It's very hard to keep up with Conor's mob problems.
There's a lot of organized crime organizations that hate me.
There really are.
He beat up an Irish mobster one night, apparently, and it became news, you know, if you're in MMA circles, I guess.
Conor's an interesting guy.
See, that's what makes Conor bigger than GSP GSP is because Connor beats up Irish gangsters occasionally.
All that was rumor spread on WhatsApp.
And I don't know that it's untrue.
I just know that normally I don't put a lot of stock in that source.
But hey, there was a WhatsApp group chat.
It's more fun to believe it.
I'm bought in.
Lock, stock, and barrel.
So is the UFC not able to go into Russia?
It's like 120, however 120 however 130 150 million people it is 150 million that's a ton like they could explode over there
i'm sure there's a ton of russian fighters and they're into eastern europeans yeah yeah some of
the best ever are from russia you'd think it would be a very good market i honestly i'm making this
up but i really think it's the crime and they just have a hard time doing business there. I agree with you. They could put Zabit on the same
card and have them
both there because Zabit's going to fight
Javier soon.
And I think that Javier is going to
get fucked.
I love Javier. He's probably
he's in my top five favorite
fighters to watch. Not because of his
personality, because that's a bit dull for me, honestly.
But his style's so cool, dude dude he plays like the kid who has mortal combat and just wants
to do the cool moves like like like what's his name um javier rodriguez i think he i believe
he's mexican and he's just spin kicks and flip kicks and and cartwheel kicks and all kinds of
silly spinning stuff that that you don't see people normally do.
You know, at this point, MMA has gotten so perfected.
There's a lot. It's boxing and wrestling and like 50-50, you know, you need enough wrestling to keep them off you and enough boxing to knock them out or vice versa.
Enough boxing to keep them from knocking you out, enough wrestling to take them down.
Right. That kind of seems to be the deal.
He's out there doing backflips.
Yeah.
Spinning around.
I wish someone would edit it and put some bruce lee yelps in there like why why is this guy yelling when he throws fireballs
he's uh he's real fun to watch but uh he got and i remember a while back he fought bj penn i believe
and when i saw that fight made i was was like, I'm not an MMA expert,
but I know that BJ Penn is about to get dented.
BJ Penn is not going to be able to sit on his ass after this beating.
It's going to be so bad.
And sure enough, Javier...
Zabip is the man too, though.
He is very bad.
I guess, honestly, when it comes to striking,
sometimes I can hardly tell the difference between the best of the best, right?
You know, who's the shape, the style bender, right?
He's this elite striking guy now, Israel something.
And I see him and, like, other good strikers,
and they all look like good strikers to me.
Zabip is a good striker.
He goes and he does some spinning shit i don't know but
we'll see i want to see the matchup it's a terrible fight for javier i believe at first he refused it
and they were going to literally fire him from the ufc if he didn't take it uh-huh because zabit is
this russian guy who everyone looks at him they're like oh he's the next big thing this is a top five
top three fighter in his weight class but he's ranked like 13th or 15th
or something because he's new but but nobody wants to so so doubly it's bad for Javier one you don't
get beat by the guy who's technically 13th or 15th in the world but two you look at that guy
and he's probably going to beat you up that's where Israel whatever his last name is it's a
hard one the style bender is too he's like don't know, 13th right now at 185.
And you remember the guy, the perfect specimen?
Oh, he fought last night.
Usain Bolt.
He got a big hammer on his chest?
Like a big hammer on his chest.
He just beat Usain.
Wait, who beat Usain Bolt?
Uriah Hall, as I meant to say.
I don't know where I got Usain Bolt.
You know me.
But the guy who beat Uriah Hall like a few weeks ago, two months ago.
Okay, I don't know
that guy he was juiced his name's costa or costa or something oh yeah i know costa i know what he
looks like he's juiced as fuck right he doesn't look real the style bender has called him out
he's like i want he's like that guy's got holes in his game that's the one i want i want that guy
and everyone's like you want him on purpose he's like yeah i got that guy worked i could see
exactly how i'd beat him yeah it made me like him i i enjoyed the card a lot i love the ufc i love
mixed martial arts it's it's it's gonna be a it's gonna be a great year for mma i think there's
there's so many good fights coming up this next card year i i really like um um what's her name
shevchenko in the in the women's 135
division i think that she beat amanda mania nunez when they fought a while back i thought she won
that fight i i thought that she did and uh she's got a fight coming up which i predict her to
absolutely destroy her opponent i don't recall who she's fighting so like yeah there's a couple
good cards coming up she trains with thug too right they're the same camp or something am i
crazy about that i'm not positive about that.
I don't know.
That's a big camp.
I think they're in Denver.
I think they're in Denver.
Yeah.
Good stuff going on.
We'll see.
The Conor Khabib thing, maybe you've never heard me say it before.
These Super Bowl fights, they don't always happen.
Sometimes the Super Bowl gets canceled.
I try not to get too excited.
Wait, what do you mean by Super Bowl fight?
Go to that in greater detail.
I will not.
canceled as I try not to get too excited. Wait, what do you mean by Super Bowl fight?
I will not.
That's going to be the biggest
mixed martial arts pay-per-view of all time.
My family.
Readjusting.
Excuse me.
Well, UFC, glad it's so entertaining for you guys.
For a while there, it seemed really, really boring
just based on your conversations.
I was losing so much
interest in it.
Chiz just checked out. Chiz did.
Yeah, Chiz just checked out. He's done.
Yeah, I think he just quit.
We'll see if they can pull him back.
Yeah, I mean, he'll definitely watch Conor fight.
I don't know how you can avoid that.
God, I hope Conor wins.
I love legacies. I love winners.
He's the Yankees.
He's the Patriots.
I love excessive winners. When people people just when you're just like when they win so much that they spawn a whole legion of people who hate them
because they win so much if i love people who spit in your face and then still win it's if connor
loses i know he's gonna be like i want a rematch same Same place. Same opt. Save that canvas. Nothing changes.
Same weight class. Same everything. Let's run it back.
And they might give it to him.
They might.
Didn't he lose his last fight?
Connor?
Well, the Mayweather fight.
That doesn't count. The other one.
No, the one before that I think is when he beat Nick Diaz.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
That's kind of in reference to what he was just saying.
Nate Diaz beat him in odd circumstances,
and then Conor's like, roll it back the exact same way, which is saying something, because Conor fights at 145 and or 155.
He had both of those belts, but this was a catchweight fight.
They did it it 170 pounds because
his opponent only got like a couple of days notice that there was going to be a fight
so they just both fought at 170 pounds and and he was like no no the rematch is also at 170 pounds
i don't want you saying that the weight cut hurts you at all we're gonna do it right here where you
wanted to be let's any any beat nate and nate of course is always saying he won that
fight he didn't win that fight i mean i've watched that fight five different times or something like
that i love watching that fight connor was rippling that motherfucker for the first three
rounds or something with leg kicks nate's nate's one of the toughest retarded cavemen who's ever
gotten into mixed martial arts though he has a pain tolerance unlike the the
other 95 percent of fighters who fight connor was kicking this guy in the legs so fucking hard
for the first 15 minutes of that fight that nate's like limping forward
come back come here i remember i watched that fight live too because i was super confident
early on that connor was going to be the winner.
And then after a while, it was just like hitting a wall where it's like, man, he's getting
more tired throwing these punches than Nick or Nate is inconvenienced by them.
They'd be like, like, hit me again.
Inside of his face, he's got that Bell's palsy look like his leg.
His leg was like bright red.
And like after like like you see those like leg kicks and it doesn't register how painful has got that Bell's palsy look. His leg was bright red. And after
you see those leg kicks
and it doesn't register how painful those are.
But if you
run into a coffee
table or something with the side of your thigh
on the corner, you're like, ah, fuck!
I didn't know there were so many nerves right there.
No, this is a fighter
slapping in the same little spot over and over and over
and over. They're cruciating.
I bet his leg was like purple and green the next day, I bet.
Yeah.
You're probably right about the Bell's palsy thing.
He's probably got nerve damage in his face at this point in certain spots.
I didn't even feel that one.
They say that cardio gives you a better chin, like knockout resistance.
And he and his brother are both
really known for having great chin and really known for having outstanding cardio triathletes
somewhere right now in in like south central los angeles nate diaz is is on a bicycle or he's
swimming with sharks out in the bay or something like that like like he their hobbies include
swimming to alcatraz and riding their bikes. It's just like, yeah.
Have you heard of that thing that advanced swimmers will sometimes do, Taylor, where they make the swim from Alcatraz to the bay?
Oh, no, I didn't know they would do that.
I thought that was really dangerous.
It's very dangerous, and only the most accomplished swimmers can do it.
It's a couple miles or something like that.
And there's an extreme current that can suck you out into the fucking ocean.
And back in the day, they always
believed that that's one of the things that made Alcatraz
so secure. Yeah, that was the crux of the movie,
Escape from Alcatraz. There you go.
They even had a boat!
He makes that swim
and you might think that he's like,
oh, I made it!
No. Then he goes
on a crazy bike ride
for like 50 miles or something like that.
Around Alcatraz?
Yeah.
He swims from Alcatraz to San Francisco
and then he runs to Los Angeles
or something stupid.
He's just absurd.
Yeah, it's absurd.
Does he swim back?
I wouldn't be surprised if he swam back.
There's no telling what they do.
We might be blowing up the legend a little.
He swims to Alcatraz, then he swims back. Hecatraz then he swims back it gets to alcatraz gets within three feet of the
shore and says fuck this i'm going back no break yeah that's insane cardio it is yeah and i think
that's related to why they're so hard to knock out that's exactly well that and they're they
push the pace and And they tire these guys
Who are like
Zero to sixty
In two second guys
They just
They blow their wad
And then
He's still over there
Conor did that
He's still over there
Yeah
Muhammad Ali did that
He was talking
I forget who he beat
I think
Frazier
Was it Frazier
And
He's talking about
Rumbling the jungle
When he's just
Fucking rope-a-doping him
And they're
He Muhammad Ali was talking trash During the Jungle when he's just fucking rope-a-doping him.
Muhammad Ali was talking trash during the match.
I want to say it was Foreman, but I'm not positive.
And he's like, you know, he's getting beat up.
He's getting beat up.
And he's like, are you getting tired?
This is a bad place to get tired.
And then he just unloaded on him.
And I was like, man, imagine being against Muhammad Ali and tuckering out.
You know, just needing a break.
It was Foreman.
It was Foreman that they fought in fucking Zaire, I think.
It's where it was.
Somewhere in Africa where they rumble in the jungle, right?
You know, like that.
You ever see the movie Ali with Will Smith?
No.
Oh, it's worth watching, dude.
Will Smith does a very convincing Ali, gets fucking ripped uh and he does the accent and everything and when they fight it's so good you know because he what happened was ali goes in there and he
befriends the natives right he's jogging like rocky balboa through villages and stuff and i
can't remember the chant it was like ali boombayay ali boombayay which I think might mean Ali, kill him or something like that.
He's calling Foreman a big gorilla and making all these racial comments
because he's this dark-skinned, big black guy and Ali's light-skinned,
and he's going super racist against him with the natives,
and they're feeding into that.
Of course, they're not fighting in either.
There's not supposed to be a home team advantage when they get to the fight
foreman stayed in his hotel the whole fucking time he didn't want to intermingle with the natives
when they get to the that'd be what my dumb ass did too you can just hear it like ali boomba yay
ali the whole place is shaking with ali chants it'sants. It's home court for Ali by the time they get to the
fight. I looked it up. It does mean Ali kill him.
I was curious.
It was that chant
and of course some random fucking
SoundCloud rapper's name now.
These SoundCloud rappers are just taking words
and phrases from the ages and turning them into their
artist name, making Wikipedia very confusing.
That's funny. I don't care for it.
Yeah, check out Ali. It's actually really good.
And I can't remember the guy who plays
Howard Cosell. I don't remember who plays
Howard Cosell in that movie, but he kills it.
It's probably someone who's been disgraced
now. It's probably
someone who's not allowed to act anymore.
Do you guys remember
the Mighty Ducks movie? Oh, yeah.
It almost made me want to play hockey.
So I just linked you to something.
So the guy who played Goldberg is not doing well.
Oh, no.
He looks...
Oh, boy.
How can he be that old?
Well, hold on.
Let's take a guess.
Don't scroll down yet.
Just look at the mugshot in the face.
How old is Goldberg?
Like, how old is this guy?
All right.
Based on his look, he looks...
He looks 50.
I would say he looks
50, but me
thinking about when that movie came out,
and I'm guessing it came out in the early 90s
and he was like
14 or something then.
So he should be like
43.
I'm putting him at 40 flat. And I'm going exclusively off where I thought So he should be like 43 or something like that.
I'm putting him at 40 flat.
And I'm going exclusively off where I thought my beard was at 40 flat.
This is a 39-year-old man.
Okay.
39 years old.
Very close, Kyle.
But this guy does not look six years younger than you and seven years older than kyle or you know a little over
10 years older than me like this this guy looks terrible it made me sad to see like one of the
hockey twitter accounts i follow be like lol something interesting going on with this and i
was like oh he's got no cherubic look he looks like he got arrested a couple years ago for meth
it says here i guess things have not
gone well. Oh yeah, that's meth face.
Yeah, he was fat in the movie though.
Yeah, he was. He was quite
fat. Yeah. That was a good movie.
That was a good movie. Was it Emilio Estevez?
Yep. Yes.
Yep, where they're like
he gets caught drunk driving and like
gets in an accident or something. They're like, alright, you don't
have to go to jail.
You get a lot of one-on-one exclusive time with some teens.
It made no sense.
It happened to me.
That's what they do.
Except I wasn't drinking and driving.
I was dropping jelly in the dorm rooms, and they had me watch people's children as punishment.
Well, that's a little different.
Yeah.
I guess. You got a jello dropper over here my son hey emilio uh we're
about to go meet all the kids you want to get out and walk on the on the pond over to him
nah nah the pond all the kids are on drive my limo onto it it's like even as a kid i'm like
this this guy's shouldn't be around children he's letting them he's like all right we're
gonna go play team iceland you know what they should have done two seconds after they arrived they're like well iceland is fielding
a team of 31 year olds so we cannot play if you remember that like they were clearly enormous
and compared in iceland being the bad guys right yeah literally they're just they're like well it's
a hockey movie for kids it's got ice in the name.
That's funny.
That makes me a little sad when you see those mug shots or just later in life shots of those child stars.
It never seems like they do well, child stars.
They always seem to not do well.
I follow Macaulay Culkin on Twitter,
and he seems like just a little bit of an odd duck.
He makes some funny jokes sometimes, but I don't know.
It's that universal stereotype that's so true that there is always something a little up with child stars.
I think that's true of child YouTube stars.
It's getting that because now they're basically celebrities in their own right.
He aged like cricket from it's always sunny in Philadelphia
He is a
If you got a sixer, you know
What is it?
Back a beer six-pack of beer if this guy stumbled up to me and was like, yeah, I just need a little help
Just I'm homeless. I was in I was Goldberg and Mighty Ducks.
I'd be like, keep walking.
Just keep walking.
Like for no second would you think this guy was telling the truth?
No, no, that's unbelievable.
Poor guy.
Yeah, dude.
I know politics talk is generally not appreciated, but there's been so much shit going on.
Like Trump is now openly admitting that he met with the russians
to get dirt on hillary clinton uh his son did right yes i'm sorry that his son did it's funny
he's like not that there's anything wrong with that but i knew nothing about it i'm like nothing
wrong with it but distance yourself good call um yeah but he always had different lies about it
these are lies have evolved from we've never met any russians to we met russians about adoption to
something else and now it's like yeah we were trying to get dirt on hillary that's what we
were doing but it's all fine um so that's i think that's a pretty interesting development
manafort's on trial right now and of course that's hardly his what he's on trial for is
hardly related to trump but they're trying to flip him. Cohen says that he did know about the meeting beforehand,
but unless there's a recording, who knows what to go.
Go ahead, Kyle.
I was listening to the Jim and Sam show,
and they were talking about Hillary Clinton.
And I guess what happened was,
I don't think this is old news either.
I think this is pretty recent.
What happened was this girl that Bill dated in high school
and a little bit afterwards.
And she loved Bill, apparently.
Smoking hot, by the way.
Just super hot back in the day.
She comes forward with all this dirt on Hillary.
It's hilarious.
She's like, I came.
And I saw him with her.
And I was like, this can't be the Hillary that I've heard about.
This cannot be the woman that Bill is with.
She dressed matronly and she had bad hygiene.
She smelled.
She had greasy hair and she smelled all the time.
Every time I ever met her, she smelled.
Like this whole
expose where she's laying out
how she lost
Bill to Hillary
and how Hillary apparently had
Chelsea so that people wouldn't think she was
a lesbian. That was the main reason
that they had the kid, apparently, according to Bill.
According to Bill?
Yeah. You think I'd put that
in her on my own volition
i'm shoving kuban look up
it's like uh i don't remember where i heard it it was like this secret ex-secret service agent
for like the clintons and was like oh yeah we all loved bill like bill was great
and they're like what about hillary's terrible. She threw a sandwich at me once.
She threw a sandwich at me once.
Yeah,
here you go. Here's a link to
this is the first thing I found.
Also, you know, the reputable news source, Jim and Sam.
I was trying to find a
pretty picture of a young Hillary Clinton
and I'm like, this one's pretty good.
I'll use it as my example of, guys, Hillary wasn't that bad. It's an actress playing a young Hillary Clinton and I'm like, this one's pretty good. I'll use it as my example of, guys,
Hillary wasn't that bad. It's an actress
playing a young Hillary Clinton in some
upcoming movie. It's not
really her. Yeah, she wasn't terrible.
She really wasn't. I want to find
a picture of this mistress
or ex-girlfriend of Bill's because
she's very attractive. Yeah, because she's throwing stones.
Let's see if she lives in a glass house. You say she's attractive.
Dolly Kyle. That's her name. Yeah, because she's throwing stones. Let's see if she lives in a glass house. You say she's attractive. Dolly Kyle.
That's her name.
This is the best young Hillary I can find.
I've seen it before.
You probably have, too.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, Dolly Kyle is hot.
Was hot.
28 rare photos of a young Hillary Clinton.
How many people are clicking on this article?
I gotta know.
It's seven pages. I like that picture of Bill when he's standing next to Hillary and she looks like just a beatnik and
he's got the most enormous poofy hair and the beard. It's in that article you just linked,
Woody, like three down. It's just so funny seeing that guy walking around and what would that be?
It's just so funny seeing that guy walking around and what would that be?
What I like...
They were talking about how
Hillary kind of got a makeover once she became the
first lady, and it seemed like Bill
went to whoever made her over and was like,
make her look like Dolly.
Look at Dolly Kyle's hair.
She's got the Hillary from 1994
look. If you scroll
to the bottom, she looks like a movie star.
Very attractive lady. I'm going to the bottom, she looks like a movie star. Very attractive lady.
I'm going to show that picture to everyone.
Yeah.
She's more attractive than Hillary, although I thought she was going to be...
She's attractive.
Scroll down to the bottom.
She looks very good for a middle-aged woman.
I'm sure that's an older photo now.
Yeah, that's an older...
She's 68 now.
So probably not fuckable.
Not anymore, no. What's the age where no matter how well someone is put together, now yeah that's an older she's 68 now you know this is so probably not fuckable not anymore now
what's the age where like no matter how well someone is put together you're like i'm sorry
ma'am i can't like i mean like no like a 75 year old that's the in the best shape for a 75 they're
105 tell me about that tell me about the early 19 tell me about the the great war while i while
i fuck you it's about how they look, not how they...
Okay, I was just curious.
Yeah, I wouldn't care. I don't know anyone who
holds up to 100, though.
But Kyle is saying hypothetically
he'd forgive any number if she looked
19. Yeah, absolutely.
Some stem cell research is going to make
100-year-olds hot. Vampire? I'd fuck
a vampire.
Yeah.
That's risky business, man. Is it? I want to be a vampire. I? I'd fuck a vampire. Yeah. That's risky business, man.
Is it? I want to be a vampire.
I'd love to be a vampire.
Have you watched any vampire lore? You don't get it
by fucking them.
I think you would
get it from fucking them, though, right?
You do have VD. Vampire disease.
Exactly.
I feel like I
raped my penis a little before I put it in
sometimes they kill you though
they would kill me though
so you'd have like a deal
but isn't that always the thing with vampires
where they're like oh I'm going to turn you into a vampire
but then once they get the teeth in you
they just want to keep eating you
and so they have to really love you
or want you to be a vampire
I don't know.
It depends on the movie.
It really depends on which lore we're going with,
like how you actually become a vampire.
I like the idea of them turning me into a vampire, though.
I'd love to be a vampire.
They bite your neck, right?
It's different in everything.
For True Blood, for example, they suck your blood until you're almost dead then they feed you their blood
then they bury you alive and you come back out of the ground as a vampire that's how it worked there
you're right some of the movies they suck all your blood out until you're dead you die but then you
come back to life a couple nights later out of your coffin and then you know
that fucking van helsing has to be down there stabbing you before you emerge as a vampire but
then uh and let's see interview with a vampire i want to say that you just had to drink some of
the other person's blood like like if anybody gets some of this in them they become a vampire
oh that's pretty easy yeah right so it's always different depending
on the lore and and what uh what film you're watching but uh but yeah i'd love to be a vampire
especially like what if wouldn't like the no daylight everything get old incredibly quickly
because like you wouldn't like all of your associates you wouldn't be able to well i mean
like let's go with like traditional vampire shit so like the sunlight is in you know because i agree with you if the sunlight thing isn't a
factor that doesn't seem like a downside to being a vampire at all you can just walk around and
not have to eat food and you live forever and you can probably like jump really high or whatever
the fuck i think if you put some super sunscreen on wear a couple layers get a sun hat and some
goggles you're good but if that's not the case, that has to be the case. There has to be
some level of sunscreen and or clothing
that gets you out in the open
during the day.
Maybe. I don't know.
Assume you can't.
Assume you can't. I wouldn't mind. I just moved
somewhere where there was more
darkness or gloom.
Which are things I enjoy anyway.
You ever see the movie 30 Days of Darkness? I enjoy darkness and gloom which are things i enjoy anyway you ever see the movie 30 days of darkness
i enjoyed darkness and gloom yes i'm big on gloom yeah i've seen 30 days of uh 30 days of night i
think yeah it may be i love that movie um i can't think of the guy's name who's in it josh something
or another josh hartnett that doesn't seem right but uh that that's a really cool vampire movie
you know they they go to that town where it's gonna be fucking nighttime for the next 30 days because it's up in the
near the uh the the top of the world that's a cool premise and those are scary vampires i
wouldn't want to be one of those vampires with like the feral teeth everywhere no you want to
be like the suave cool vampire who still looks like just a really pale human oh and sexy as
fuck right you ever see
interview with a vampire with uh with brad pitt and uh tom cruise i think i've seen that before
and torio banderas um um and uh the little girl vampire uh who's an adult now obviously because
that was like 1990 something um what's her name she was the redhead from spider-man one um oh yeah yes with the
teeth uh kirsten dunst kirsten dunst yeah kirsten dunst whatever she was the she's like
in real life like 11 13 somewhere in there like a little girl but she becomes a vampire so she
stays a little girl forever so now she's this murderous little girl who can never
like get fucked or anything and she's super mad about it it's great oh that would suck see like
the big thing about becoming a vampire is you'd want it to be on your own schedule
so if they were like all right taylor you you get to join the vampire cat club council whatever the
fuck uh i'm gonna be like all right well hold off for now you need to
give me because my understanding of vampirism is that like if i'm a big fat person and they turn
me into a vampire oh your body's not changing anymore you're a big fat person now like that's
just the way you look so you need to make sure you got like a new haircut you're like shaved
perfectly like all of your grooming is done you need to make sure you're
shredded like you want to be like right before like you want to be way in wait when you get bit
you know they want to be tasting the flavor protein powder you were having out of your
blood and then you can eat whatever you want or shit can you eat whatever you want as a vampire
can you only eat blood as much blood as you want no but i mean like if i want a burger can i eat a burger i think the deal is that you don't want
a burger anymore you just love blood so much blood now becomes like strawberry milkshakes
all the time you're just like oh i eat nothing but milkshakes now, and that's what makes me powerful and strong?
Wonderful!
If you're out and about for a social function, you're a vampire, but you still work,
because you're becoming a super powerful business mogul with your eons of life.
Sure.
You've got to go out with non-vampires for a nice social night of fancy dinner and drinking,
but you can't let them know.
So you're saying you can't eat, and if they're like, oh, you know, we're all going to have some rum and Coke and
one for the man over here. You know, if you take a sip of that or if you have a sip of water,
are you going to be fucked? No, you got to be. Yeah, I think you would be fucked. And a lot of
the movies, it seems like to sit there with a cup of blood and everybody's just sitting there
pretending they don't smell pennies. No, you get yourself a Bloody Mary. That's you. That's your
drink. Of course, you want to host a lot.
That way you can have your own
bottle that you're pouring over.
I don't think you would like the vintage.
As you're pouring, you're like, that looks thick.
Does he think we don't know
he's drinking blood every time we're with him?
It stinks in here.
It smells like pennies.
It smells awful.
It smells like pennies. It smells awful. Yeah.
It smells like post-period sex in here,
and he's gallivanting around with a half-full cup of blood.
I don't want to say anything.
Of course we're going to agree to whatever deal he proposes.
He's drinking blood.
This is a crazy person.
And you come back in.
Aha, aha, aha.
Have we come to a deal on our business venture?
I will give you to the count of three, a one, ah, ah, ah.
Two, ah, ah, ah.
That's the best monster.
Werewolf is awful.
Werewolf is awful.
It's boring.
It's too feral.
There's no duplicitousness.
It doesn't seem
once a month you become a monster and you're like you're like out of control and you you
potentially kill the people you care about the most right you got to chain yourself up somewhere
and and you never know when some smart ass is gonna stick his nose in your business with his
silver bullets and shit yeah it could happen anytime uh you know like swamp what what's what
else is there the swamp thing or something like that?
Frankenstein?
That's too niche.
I feel like that's just one guy.
It's not like there's a bunch of swamp fiends.
The werewolf, yeah.
That's inconvenient.
I'd rather be not special at all than be a werewolf.
Think of how many pants you have to buy as a werewolf.
You're bursting through entire outfits.
Or you just have to look like a schlub walking around in sweatpants all the time. That would be a werewolf. You're bursting through entire outfits. Yeah. Or you just have to look like a schlub
walking around in sweatpants all the time.
Once a month.
Ah, that would be a shitty one.
I'd rather be a vampire for sure.
Absolutely.
Yeah, vampire's sexy.
Vampire's got all...
And depending on which movie or which book,
you've got cool powers, right?
You can sort of do like a Jedi mind trick on people
and control them.
They slay pussy.
Like, ladies seem to really like the vampire
thing uh you're a little pale but yeah whatever i already am who cares that looks that looks always
uh always popular anyway it's not like you know you're gonna fit right in and you know and think
of the interest the compounding interest over time you know that that's great too you don't
have to worry about just like open you wouldn't even have to be financially that savvy you could just make a few very small
and conservative investments and then for the next hundred years just be like i'm gonna go
around the wilderness and explore kill the occasional person drink their blood but it
should be neat grab a vampire buddy you, you know, traipse around,
and then you just show back up, and you have a ton of money.
Like, you wouldn't even need to be Mr. Brilliant.
I'd bite all my friends. I'd bite all the people
I like, whether they liked it or not, and be like,
you're a vampire now. I didn't want to be
a vampire, Kyle. Tough shit.
Now I know
you're gonna be managing me for a long
time. I have some
very long-term investments for you to watch over. I didn't want to be managing me for a long time. I have some very long-term investments for YouTube.
Why did you want to be a vampire?
And then that's where that close-out music of Curb Your Enthusiasm would play.
I've said this before, but man, it would be so easy to accumulate a lot of money as a vampire.
Yeah, we were just saying that.
We were saying that you wouldn't even have to be smart.
A couple conservative little investments,
and then forget about it for a century as you're exploring the world,
doing other stuff.
You could do it in any way.
Half a century should seem like enough.
Like, yeah, just put some money aside.
Half a century goes by.
A lot of people have a good amount of money by the time they're 65.
The problem is, they're 65.
And you're also, look,
you're thinking of yourself as a normal
person who could live forever. You're a vampire.
You're regularly killing people
and eating them. You just rob
them blind, right? Drain their
checking accounts and stuff like that, then you
invest that money. How do you get away with it, though?
Well, you're eating people. Right. Well, you gotta make sure you get away with it though well you're eating people right well you got a big dollar got busted like yeah jeffrey
dahmer was a moron though how did he end up getting caught did he get caught with like uh the body
parts in his house or was that john wayne gacy they all got caught with body parts so one of
the things that i remember about jeffrey dahmer is he had kidnapped this guy and he had drilled a hole in his head with a power drill and he was
like dripping muriatic acid into it to make him a zombie, like a sex slave. The guy breaks loose
and is running down the street with this hole drilled in his head. Retarded, basically, now. He's very confused because of the drilling.
Two cops drive by.
Hey!
What are you doing there?
What seems to be the issue, sir?
He's like,
Help!
Jeffrey Dahmer comes up.
He's like,
Oh, hello, officers.
This is my boyfriend.
Which makes them very awkward
because it's like 1980-something or whatever.
He's like, he's a little drunk.
I'll take him home and see to him.
Well, you see that you do,
and don't let folks see him out here in his undies.
It's uncouth.
Ah, get out of here, homo.
That's exactly what went down.
He took him back to his house and murdered him.
Yeah.
See, if you're a vampire, though, you're not like you're like eating your landlord
right you know you you fly into baltimore you eat a couple people rob them drain their accounts and
then you fly off to fucking san diego you know new identities all the time yeah you're a vampire
what do you want to settle down yeah work a nine to five no are you immune to like
bullets and stuff as a vampire or not oh yeah okay well then the best place to go would be like
super densely populated high crime areas because you could just get away with tons of blood drinking
this one's got some crack in the blood i like that yeah you start to develop a problem being
able to turn into a bat would ruin paramotoring for me.
Like, you know, this is so lame.
It'd be more fun, though.
That would never shut down.
You'd have so much more maneuverability.
Yeah.
No setup time.
And you wouldn't just have to do it outside.
You'd be like, I'm going to fly into the east sunroom real quick.
Grab something.
The east moonroom.
Oh, yeah, no sunrooms moon room oh that's right sunrooms would be would be unwelcome yes yeah I would love to be a vampire that that's
definitely my go-to immortality shape-shifting abilities Jedi mind trick
nah you put up throwing a bunch of sunscreen
in a welder's helmet go out if you want but but like you know the night is your friend especially
especially if you go up somewhere really high uh near one of the poles where you get those long
extended periods of of darkness ah it'd be great go to fucking one of those nordic countries
somewhere where they get like i know they're not as high up but maybe they get a week or two of
darkness oh you're just chilling all the time.
I get a little depressed though.
If like,
I don't get my sunshine.
It makes me happy to get outside.
This would change you though,
because if you got sunshine as a vampire,
it would be excruciating and you would die.
Yeah.
Maybe I,
so you might like walk out into the sun for like a little bit and be like,
Oh no.
I'll admit I stopped liking the sun,
but I don't know that I'll stop desiring the sun.
Maybe I'll wish that I was a person again.
You could probably get some mood lighting in your house.
You know, like some of that natural
light bulbs so it always
looks like it's
daytime. I'm sure you can get some. Or,
you can move to the Middle East
and pretend to be a woman.
And then you always have to wear a burka
and no one will suspect a thing
that's that's pretty that's a pretty good idea this is pretty smart
this is very smart and no one's going to suspect you you know and you just have i was about to say
like well what about when fashion changes you're going to live forever oh wait a minute actually
that fashion trend is pretty consistent in the middle east for yes as long as i know thousands of years yeah you're okay for a while the saudi arabia you know summer 14 collection
and of course they're talking about uh 1014 all the 14s really
for the 1900th consecutive year yes yes yeah i can't think of any other, like, monster that I would prefer to be.
Or any sort of creature, really.
Like, it'd be nice to be an X-Man, I guess.
Like, some sort of mutant.
Like, not any sort of mutant.
Not if you're a shitty one, though.
There were shitty ones.
I remember, like, watching the cartoons.
And a lot of the X-Men is an allegory for racism or uh or homophobia and stuff like
yeah it's ham-handed i remember the cartoons as a very much like just because you can look at
things and blow them up doesn't mean i should fear you it's like it absolutely does like he's one
like looking down too much and his glasses falling off from this whole place going up
yeah he should be locked away there's like these these roaming gangs of like anti-mutant
civilians who are like going around basically um um lynching mutants right like like the kkk
but they're after mutants and there's this like frog boy who's in an alley and he's like i can't
even do anything i'm just a frog man and he's running running from them. And I was like, oh my God, he's just a frog man.
Like he can't even rib it or jump really high.
He just looks like that.
And that was the deal.
He couldn't stick to walls.
He couldn't rib it.
His tongue didn't come out and grab shit.
He was just a frog man.
He was just deformed.
Yeah.
He was just terribly, terribly deformed.
I only have the downsides of being a frog man, which is no girls like me.
And my skin dries out if I don't keep it moist.
And the more tap water I drink,
the more vicarious I'm feeling.
Nice toothpaste.
That was actually one of my topics.
Did you see what happened to InfoWars?
They're taking their videos down or something, right?
They're banned from YouTube, Facebook, Spotify, and iTunes.
Yeah.
That's all right.
We'll just start up the Alex Jones streaming network.
He's fucked.
24 hours to the day.
He's pretty much telling everyone to buy bone broth so they feed their gladiator.
He's just trying to get one last cash
infusion out of this thing oh he'll get his own streaming service yeah his his own website will
blow up in popularity like he won't be as popular as it was before it's really fucking creepy seeing
like different ostensibly companies suddenly come out and like do all this banning all at the same
time in like a synchronized way i don't like seeing that at all he's been doing this shit for
like a decade plus and like to see these multinational giant media conglomerates that
control the way you discuss things online all the same day at the same time go nope i think it's not
the same day but yeah i don't know i don't think they're coordinated as much as they are like sure
i think it's more along the lines of like i wish i could do it i wish i could do it oh they're doing
it let's jump on board oh they're doing it we'll jump on lines of like, I wish I could do it. I wish I could do it. Oh, they're doing it. Let's jump on board. Oh, they're doing it. We'll jump on board too. Like YouTube, for
example, they gave him a strike for some sort of hate speech thing that he did. And then they
waited six months because two strikes is a bigger deal. It would make him pause to give him another
strike, but they waited until the first one expired. and then he got four strikes in a row on his different videos but they like uh collated them like they combined them i'm looking for
into one strike so that he wouldn't have his channel taken down and they waited six months
so they wouldn't be able to not upload and youtube was really just sort of bending over
backwards so that it wasn't a real punishment and then then now, you know, like it just, the dominoes fell one after another.
Yeah, I gotta love the end of free speech.
Woo-hoo.
Is that how you see it?
Absolutely.
I think it's really dangerous for companies
that control all of your ability to speak over the internet
when they can start, you know, doing things like this.
And what I think is clearly a coordinated effort,
you know, like that all for, think is clearly a coordinated effort.
If it was a terms of service thing, he's been
doing the exact same ridiculous
stupid shit. I don't even like Alex Jones' point of view.
I don't either. He's been doing this ridiculous
shit for 15, 20...
He's been doing it for so, so long. They could have done
this way before, but it is
kind of frightening. He made suggestions
to shoot Robert Mueller.
I fear to pronounce Mueller and Mueller. I've heard it pronounced Mueller and Mueller.
I need to hear his words, you know?
He mimed it. There's no words. He mimed it.
He did finger guns or I don't know
what the fuck he did. I don't know how you mime it.
That's okay. I'm not going to
defend his actual positions and what he says
as rational or
a valid perspective on things
because I don't think most of it is.
He's a broken clock. He's going to be right a couple times a day and wrong a lot more than that because I don't think most of it is. Like, he's a broken clock.
He's going to be right a couple times a day
and wrong a lot more than that, I think.
But it's just the principle of it,
of like, ooh, these companies
that basically have monopolies
on our ability to converse about things online
are now shutting down en masse
the ability of people to kind of get out there.
So it's not good.
He said that Mueller is a demon
that he'll take down or he'll die trying.
That the word is demon doesn't actually have sex with children.
He just controls the rings where people have sex with children.
Okay.
That's what he said.
Yeah, that he mimed that he was going to kill.
Yeah, this is hate speech.
Yeah, I don't like that.
I don't like him saying that,
but I also don't like seeing him totally deplatformed.
Yeah, hate speech is free speech. But it's against youtube's terms of service are they not allowed to like
have terms of service they're allowed to but but when they can define hate speech as whatever they
want it's it's not it's not going to be a fair well making up lies and calling people pedophiles
pretty pretty legit you know that you should be able to ban for that.
I can get behind that kind of thing.
He does that routinely.
I didn't know that he was just baselessly calling everybody pedophiles
because I don't want to watch a show.
But still, even if I disagree with him on everything,
it's pretty creepy that they can take what is essentially
the biggest non-mainstream media thing out there that's still really big.
Because he is pretty fucking popular.
And shut that down across all mediums.
Yeah, I mean...
I'm still split on it.
I feel like he's not a close call.
I just like freedom.
I don't have...
The fact that I hate what he says makes it all the more uh important
that it's defended and that's you know that's how i feel about flag burning right i despise flag
burning there's a part of me that wants to say no that should be illegal and when we find someone
doing it we should do something awful to them then like what wait a minute that's why there
are free speech laws because it's to protect the minority from the majority yeah we all agree that's fucking stupid
we all agree it's disgraceful but that's why we have free speech like he should be able to say
whatever he wants even if it's a lie speech doesn't like okay so not long ago we we were
in this agreement that you can't compel companies to support for example the gay wedding cake right
and now we're compelling YouTube to spread
Alex Jones' message?
No, we can't. It's a
private company. I'm not saying that
we can change it. I just don't like it.
I don't agree with it. It's illegal.
I'm not saying that what they've done is illegal. I'm just
saying it's immoral. Yeah, it's
definitely immoral. It's not illegal. They can do what they want.
It is a little bit
of a conundrum, because I totally see the inconsistency you're talking about, Woody.
I agree with you, actually.
I do think that you have to look at some things on a gradient.
And I think that comparing one independently owned bakery to a multinational corporation that uses government structures that are tax paid to maintain their monopoly, places like Twitter, places like – well, Twitter is actually one of the companies that's not on here.
But YouTube, Google, Facebook, they control so much about public discourse.
And so I think it's definitely more serious for them to be shutting something down than a bake-the-cake kind of thing.
But I am trying to reconcile that and think through it because I like i do see internal inconsistency there i agree with you i can also see
like when when something gets big enough like youtube allowing them to control
the argument you know to lay out who can talk and who can't gets a little dangerous like it
almost seems like very dangerous on the other hand this to me is not You know, like, this guy's out there calling everyone pedophiles
and say they're running sex slaves,
and he's, you know, making shit up constantly,
calling...
He's attacking individual parents.
These are not public figures,
but parents of Sandusky children who were murdered in kindergarten.
And, like, he's going against not just public figures,
but big guys, small guys, little guys in between making shit up to line his own pockets.
Like that's what this guy does.
Yeah, I don't like it.
So when I say, yeah, you know, if YouTube starts quashing the next Arab Spring, then they're not wielding their power responsibly.
But this is not irresponsibly wielding their power.
I think it's selective
you know they've singled him out i i think the televangelists are worse i i think that like
like you know go listen to joel osteen for a little while go listen to one of these big
televangelists and you'll see that they spread hate speech on a weekly basis they blame hurricanes
and fires in california on on homosexuals and and and uh um jews they're nasty too politically hard to touch but so is alex
jones yeah i uh i don't like it but i i support his right to do it and i think that's where i
stand on that and i don't like to see them sort of silencing him but i don't think he can i think
that that works to his favor i'm sure there's a oh shit just hit the fan kind of thing going on
over at alex jporated or whatever,
but I bet he comes out of this with his
streaming service of his own,
or he finds somewhere to be the exclusive
hub for him, or he runs it out of his own
website or something like that.
I guarantee this is
the beginning of the end of his influence, because
people are not going to leave mediums that they're very
comfortable with. The interface, the use,
like YouTube. The way you have to think of it is a lot of these aren't as crossover networks as you think.
Like, people think, oh, the same people who are going on Infowars.com
are the same people watching the content on YouTube
are the same people watching it on XYZ site he hosted on.
It's like, no, for a lot of fan bases, the way it works is
this segment of his audience consumes it through this one medium.
And when they get rid of YouTube, they will no longer watch it.
They'll find something similar that they also like.
I think Taylor's right.
He's not.
And I think that we even have a model of it.
I think that Milo is a shadow of the influence he had during the election.
Oh, that's different.
Milo himself became disgraced.
He has Facebook still, I think, right?
Yeah.
Milo's still places.
Without Twitter and without Milo's,
everyone kind of blackballed him.
Deplatformed.
Yeah, deplatformed.
I think that happens to Alex Jones too.
It's not like the Alex Jones specifically one
I have a problem with as much.
It's like the fear I have for what's coming next.
This is the first of many dominoes of censorship
that's going to come down.
It's not going to stop with Alex Jones.
I hope that XM gives him a...
Sirius XM gives him his own channel.
It'd be huge.
Do that.
Howard Stern's only got a couple more years
on his contract anyway.
You need somebody like that.
Joel Osteen has a channel on there.
Oprah has a channel on there.
Stern's got two.
There's all kinds of crazy shit on Sirius. They're not going to give him
they're not going to do it at all.
I would. If I ran Sirius
I think Taylor's right. I don't know with
any confidence but I just feel like he's
so toxic. Everyone
I don't think it was a coordinated
effort for these companies to all drop him at once.
I think it was more of a
here's our chance.
If iTunes is doing it, Spotify can get away with it.
Facebook, I'm not sure about Facebook, but I think Facebook too.
And I know that YouTube are all just like, well, we'll do it as a group.
There'll be one outrage and then we'll be done.
This is our chance.
Well, yeah, that's coordinated.
Not if they're not talking to each other.
If I'm on Twitter, I'm thinking right now, maybe I'll jump on board this too,
just so that I'm one eighth of the attention instead of all of it maybe it was just how quickly it all
rolled out that it's like but you're right that that's why companies would uh you know collaborate
on something like this is because the pr from people who dislike it is going to be spread
four ways damn alex looking good with the beard is he do you have a link his head
is gets rounder every time i see him so i went to his twitter i guess he responded to this um
seven hours ago it's a 230 minute long video that's uploaded to twitter there
but i watched the first 30 seconds of it we've been shadow banned for years now anyway
so i don't know i just noticed he had a beard there and i
saw it was two uh 230 minutes of content so i clicked off but yeah i think he'll be fine he's
i think i think he's bigger than we give him credit for i think when you look at like howard
stern being able to bring his enormous terrestrial audience over to sirius proves that someone who's
got that big of a following can do it sir Sirius had 400,000 subscribers when Howard jumped on board. Now they have 30 million. And a large percentage of that
is about Stern. It's not, I mean, I've got the service. I scan through the channels daily.
There's not a whole lot else going on over there. I mean, honestly, like the only thing that makes
me think they might pick it up is because serious is on
a downward trend as far as like their popularity and they they know the people at serious like
they know they're not stupid they know that they are on their last legs as far as the availability
like even serious xm is old school now it's like oh it's not on demand content i have to like wait
for other stuff like i can't just go you say yeah yeah it's not on-demand content. I have to wait for other stuff. Wait, it is, you say?
Yeah, yeah. It's not the way YouTube
or podcast apps are.
You can't just go there and select an episode of one
and play it, can you? Yeah, yeah.
I've got the app on my phone. I've got
it on my computer. Anytime
I want, I can go and listen to the days
like Jim and Sam or
Stern or whatever, and there's video
now. So it's a hybrid.
It's almost like a DVR, right?
Like if it's gone live already, you can listen to it.
Okay, so the app itself, you don't have to,
it's not like the way it used to be
where you have to just turn it on
and then you're listening to whatever's on that channel.
The way Taylor describes it is how it works in my new truck.
Yeah.
That's how it's always worked for me is like when I go,
oh, I'm going to go to the gym.
Oh, that is how it'll work in your vehicle.
You need the app.
But see, you can link the app to your truck with bluetooth or
auxiliary depending on what your technology is and and then select the episode you want to play
and then play it that way i just i like even so like that's more impressive than i thought it was
the fact that it doesn't allow you to do that in cars i would wager that the majority of users
aren't using the app they're using the car, the car module, just because most people end up getting it
because they come with their car.
I just listen to whatever's on.
But they're not going to win this battle against podcasting
where you don't have to pay.
It's free.
It's 100% on demand.
You can download it, have it ready.
Like, they're just not,
they're not going to win this battle.
Like, even though they're still growing,
like, I think we looked at these numbers.
They're not growing at a replenishment rate. I bet they're still growing, I think we looked at these numbers, they're not growing
at a replenishment rate.
I bet they grew up to get Alex Jones.
Their numbers are inflated because they have
partnerships with people like Hyundai.
Is Alex Jones that popular? In my world, he's just a goof.
He's enormous. He's very, very
popular.
To Kyle's point, they know they're losing Howard
and they are going to be up
shit creek when howard's gone
they're going to start letting go people like jim and sam uh because i hope not i i hope that i i
really hope not i know that guy on shade 45 whose name escapes me he's a black guy um shade 45 is
is m&m's channel uh you know shady shade uh shade 45 and he does uh interviews with all kinds of
enormous stars he gets people that Stern can't get.
He does a lot
of really, really big interviews. I'm sure he's quite
big. He's just not my demographic, or I'm
not his demographic, I should say.
And then, aside from that,
there's not
a lot else. Jim and
Sam don't have their own channel. They're on Faction
Talk, which is a channel that has
Craig Ferguson has a show on there.
And Craig Ferguson's show is garbage.
I tried to listen to it.
I've listened to a dozen or 20 hours of it or something because sometimes when I'm up early, it's what's on.
But, man, it's shit.
Craig's not funny at all.
He's so out of touch with reality.
Howard Stern is more in touch with reality
and what's going on in the world right now
than Greg Ferguson is.
Where is Alex Jones big?
Am I missing it?
Is he big on radio?
He's on 160 radio terrestrial stations
across the country,
and his streaming numbers are large, I've heard.
It's like 15 or 20 million a week.
I looked him up on YouTube, and he's getting like 16, 17 million a month, which is good.
But, I mean, it's not that remarkable.
Yeah, his main audience, because he started this so long ago, is Terrestrial Radio.
Gotcha.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, he's killing it.
And if he went on to XM, I think he'd be incredibly successful.
If I run SiriusXM, I'm after Alex Jones right now. He's down it. And if he went on to XM, I think he'd be incredibly successful. If I run serious XM, I'm after Alex Jones right now.
He's down in the dirt.
He's potentially worried that the FCC might come after him now.
Who knows what his fears are.
If you could give him...
If I hired him right now, he'd be the new biggest show on XM by a ton.
I don't think you're going to beat Stern.
All this hype around him.
I'm a stern fan
i'm always gonna be on stern's side when it comes to something like this i just feel like he's
gargantuan um but the expanse that show that you like on that was on sci-fi woody now it's on
amazon i don't know if you saw the show makers talking about how excited they are they're like
like we're not constrained to 42 minutes an episode anymore we can curse like sailors
are this is gonna look this is in 4k now like like this is gonna be a much better show we're not constrained to 42 minutes an episode anymore we can curse like sailors are this is gonna look this is in 4k now like this is gonna be a much better show we're so excited
about season three or season four whatever is about to come out on on amazon it's now i'm gonna
have to catch up when i heard that i was like oh they've got the right mindset going into the
amazon platform they're like they hit they hit three nails right on the head.
Like, now the episodes are going to be as long as we want.
Now we're going to curse like sailors.
Oh, and nudity.
That was the other thing.
Now we're going to have nudity.
We're going to have terrible language.
We're going to have hour-long episodes.
Yeah, throw in some extra violence,
and I'm really excited.
And 4K.
4K titties and blood, oh my.
All right.
All right, I'll get on board with this. I like the Expanse. I'm going to have to get titties and blood, oh my. All right. All right.
I'll get on board with this.
I like the Expanse.
I'm going to have to get on board with the Expanse.
And then the last little tidbit, because we're over an hour now.
Patrick Stewart coming back, getting his own Star Trek show, which is great because the
current Star Trek that's out there, it's known as Star Trek Discovery, the one that's on
CBS.
I refer to it as Star Trek Diversity.
Fuck that show.
Refuse to watch that show with its nonsense. lucas it's it's it's so much we could do two or three hours on that
your only complaint so far they're shoving all white people um no they're shoving diversity
down your throat and and a lot of a lot of white guilt being thrown around even though it's like
the 23rd fucking century it's i i just and they they made the klingons look goofy as hell
they completely changed the way the klingons look it this is some nerdy shit i get it but we're
talking about a new star trek show and patrick stewart coming back they're gonna make it like
he's been gone for 18 years roughly like that's when the last star trek movie happened i think
it was 2002 so 16 years they're making this 16 years after the last time you saw him so you're i don't know what the premise is
going to be but i could imagine like two or three premises that would be great right what if he's a
teacher like like at the uh academy and and you've got him as like the teacher but you also follow
the students right and all the hijinks they get up to learning to be star trek starfleet cadets
and maybe there's a big emergency where you get occasionally picard goes off and does a
cool thing that'd be okay a little boring maybe you just give him his own ship again and bring
wharf back and they all have a good time um i i'm excited about it i i'm see what they do i love
what they do i yeah i i like him but i always thought he was a little bit of a theater geek
you know he is he absolutely is yeah he's a little bit of a theater geek. He is. He absolutely is.
He's a classically trained, amazing...
I love it when he sings.
I know.
I want my captains and such to make me think they weren't theater nerds in school.
A little more grisly.
Yeah.
A little more weathered.
He's such a good actor.
I watched...
I remember watching a video and they're like...
It's like like something trailers.
One of those things that's like true trailers or something like that.
They show you like, they talk about like what a show actually is, not just like what they pretend to be.
They're like a series that gets an actor that's far too good for it.
Honest trailers, I think.
Honest trailers, that's what it is.
He's such a good actor.
I love Patrick Stewart, so I'm excited to see him back.
I hope they don't fuck it up, although I saw that the executive producer from Star Trek
Discovery is going to be the executive producing on this, so maybe I'll just be soured.
I'm not normally one to fuss about diversity, but I will say in Hamilton,
it's a little distracting, right?
Like there are no white people
playing our founding fathers.
None.
There's not a single white founding.
The only white person in all of Hamilton
is the bad guy who plays...
King George.
King George.
Yeah, I almost called him King George.
Yeah.
He's the only white guy in the whole thing.
And he's great.
But... When in reality, the fucking taxes they were levying on us were to pay for all the expense that they sent saving us from the french yes i've i've heard that perspective just recently
actually it's true yeah i i never heard it like that though but still fuck them yeah well there
was taxation without representation kind of like we didn't have an equal vote in this.
So, you know,
there's a thing there.
Hindsight's 20-20.
Like when our armada came
and defended you,
we weren't voting against that, were you?
Dirty colonies.
It's like, well, I mean,
then the French ended up
helping us out, so let's call it a wash
A wash where England loses badly
The first of many
Not the first I'm sure
One of many
Alright call it a wrap
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