Painkiller Already - PKN #210

Episode Date: September 6, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Painkiller Nearly, episode 210. We're back. Yes, and on the cusp of a drinking episode. Now I'm curious, what do you guys lean... Now I see a look of excitement in one pair of eyes and a look of dread in another. My last two times drinking alcohol were both drinking episodes. I swear, it's like the only reason I consume it. And put that into perspective. What, two drinking episodes ago?
Starting point is 00:00:26 Literal years. Yeah, I bet it was 2016, you know, two drinking episodes ago. It probably was. Yeah, so you drink on average once a year for a podcast. You guys are really ramping it up. Yeah. Pretty soon we're going to have you up to like one every nine months you know then you got to be getting careful yeah i want to overdo it i so
Starting point is 00:00:49 what are you guys thinking about drinking what's your go-to yeah i'm looking forward to it um i've got uh i've been drinking uh bloody mary's i uh i got some charleston bloody mary mix it's nice and spicy and i've been mixing that with vodka but i think if i'm going to be drinking a lot of it that might be a huge fucking mistake it'll be a colorful vomit yeah right and it's going to be like i don't know maybe like horrible heartburn and like burn on the way up so i may just drink the vodka straight and just chase it with something yeah think about how shitty you're going to feel with that much acidy tomato juice yeah yeah and it's not just acid-y. It's like there's a lot of pepper and spices in there.
Starting point is 00:01:29 When you shake the glass, you can see how much stuff is in there. I don't think that's a good idea for this much drinking. It sounds green, though. This is from a guy who drank Kahlua and cream one drinking episode. I'm not really your mentor on this thing. You don't taste
Starting point is 00:01:46 the vodka at all. That sounds great! If you like spicy V8, that's what this is. It's a third vodka, two-thirds mix. There's a rocks glass of that. Enjoy one of those while I eat at night or whatever or play some games or something.
Starting point is 00:02:04 You've got to really love tomato juice, though. I like tomato juice. I think I would love it. I like V8. I really like it if it's spicy. But yeah, I'm just going to drink straight vodka most likely. Yeah, I think that's the plan right now. We need to go out with some drinking games. So if you guys are listening to this, maybe put some comments on the youtube video or something like that think of a not necessarily a drinking game because people are going to take that literally they're gonna be like oh well they're no like think of a drinking
Starting point is 00:02:33 game specific to our show and kind of the flow that it normally takes like if if person a does x y and or z they drink actually or Actually, can I interrupt for a second? I think I need to turn my volume up a touch. I've been watching videos about this. There's one called Truth or Drink. Have you heard of this? No. I think I can put the pieces together.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah. I bet you've got it. Yeah, there's a YouTube channel called Cut. And they do these drinking games. And what's interesting is they get like exes or engaged couples or something like that to do it. And you know what? I should link you one or two to give you the spirit of it and maybe we could replicate
Starting point is 00:03:17 it. I don't know if that's going to work for us, though, because it's not like we're very conservative in what we share on this show. Right. Like, I feel like we're just going to be telling truths that we would have told anyway all night and nobody's going to be drinking especially you. You're like, I'll admit to whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I don't care as long as I don't have to drink this poison. Yeah, I do hear where you're coming from. Yeah, I raped a dog. The strategy with that game will be lie at any cost. Yeah, I'm attracted to men for real, sure. Can I pour yeah i'm a dog with that game will be lie at any cost yeah yeah i'm attracted to men like for real sure can i thought can i pour this out if i say i'm really
Starting point is 00:03:51 into it can i pour the whole right now yeah i would be stone cold sober at the end of that show i i can see you coming for i well you know what i will link you a video or two and see if you still don't like the idea i think uh what a lot of them would like is if we get kind of little idiosyncratic things that we all do like oh every time taylor uses this word or like that i use a lot or every time kyle says you know one of your many catch phrases or every time he gets a gets a name wrong yeah every time kyle says faggot we got a drink uh and you better believe by the end of that episode, that's going to be a rapid fire drinking machine. If we say the faggot rule with Kyle.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So little things like that to be thinking about. I'm going to put it on my Twitter and hopefully get some of your guys good ideas. I'm not sure if I want to do beer or hard alcohol. Beer isn't an option, sir. Not like a light beer. Like a stronger beer. No. a stronger beer no no no no if you want to chase your your liquor with a with a nice 10 percent russian ale or something yeah that's what my roommates used to always bring home they'd have these glass liter bottles of like some honey russian beer and it would just be black as night and just strong as fuck,
Starting point is 00:05:06 and I could never finish one. An Imperial or whatever they call them. I don't know what they were. Those are terrible. But okay, if we're set on hard alcohol, then I'll do, I guess I'll do vodka. I'll pick some up tomorrow. I feel slightly abandoned.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I'm following your Grand Gala advice from last episode because I still have it, but you've left me at Grand Gala solo it's not the right alcohol anymore uh I I mean I have vodka here I already have like a nice bottle of Tito's vodka here that I then and so I don't have any Grand Gala so uh and it's it's also a lot of sugar and it's very syrupy and uh it did make me quite ill last time i drank a lot of it so i think i'm gonna go definitely gonna go with vodka i'm gonna go see the the move here woody is get vodka and then get like sparkling water or flavored sparkling water seltzer water something like that to mix
Starting point is 00:05:59 it with and that way you're kind of hydrating as you go. Those are two things I don't like. Okay. Mix it with a beverage of your choice. Orange juice? That's not – oh, no. See, you're going to have the worst acid reflux on the world if you're drinking that much orange juice over the course of the night. So I think you're – I'm already sweating. It's clear that I'm not prepared for this episode, that I don't know what I'm doing. I'm going to go to the subreddit and ask for drinking advice because there were people that gave me good drinking advice, like just drink and have fun and
Starting point is 00:06:29 don't worry so much about whether you're drinking enough. Just enjoy it. They had this lighthearted, enjoyable measure, like way of drinking as opposed to the metric oriented fashion that I use where I count fluid ounces and sweat and numbness. You need a shot glass. That is what you need. You need a shot glass. They are pennies of cost at virtually any... My grocery store has them.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Like, Ingles has them. There's like a place by the sodas, I think, that has them. You need a shot glass so we can keep that legit. If I were you um i would i would have a chaser and i think the best chaser for vodka like especially i don't want something really syrupy well i mean if i'm just if you were to go to you know i would chase it with ginger ale that's that's what i'm going to do probably is have vodka and ginger ale and just you know shoot the vodka and chase it with a little bit of ginger ale and drink a shitload of water this time.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I drank a liter of water last time. That was a liter and a half, and that was not enough. So I'm going to maybe drink like a liter before the show, I guess. I don't want to get sick this time. Last show afterwards, I felt bad. The show before that, I wished I was dead. That was the one. It was truly awful.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I spent the entire night on the tile floor. The cold of the tile floor. It was so delightful, the cold tile floor. And then I woke up to the subreddit saying I didn't drink. I was just like, you motherfuckers. It's funny, the little things when you're that wasted that
Starting point is 00:08:03 you would never just go into your bathroom and be like man what a comfortable cold tile i'm gonna lay here but then when you're wasted you're like oh it's a little treat like yes yeah oh my god i was so happy the tile was so cold and like i was vomiting and then it was like well like there's no way i can make it back to the bed and expect not to be vomiting 45 seconds from now. So I'll just rest here for a while until we're certain this is past, which turned out to be the next morning around 5 a.m. So I think vodka is the move for all of us. He's not going to like vodka.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I'm going to do Grand Gala. Vodka reminds me of my high school drinking, and that wasn't good. It was awful stuff I just choked down. The more sugary the beverage is, the more the next day you're going to wish you hadn't had it. Like you didn't have it. Yeah, I know that. I don't know. I hear that.
Starting point is 00:09:03 All I really know for sure is that cheap tequila literally has poison in it. If it doesn't say 100% agave, then half of it is some sort of cheap, cheap grain alcohol with impurities in it. That's why tequila, everybody's like, oh, not tequila, as if tequila has something that makes you crazy. No, there's nothing about tequila. There's something about cheap tequila like Jose like oh not tequila as if like tequila has some something that makes you crazy no no there's nothing about tequila there's something about cheap tequila like jose cuervo that yeah really fucks you over uh so i but i'm probably just i really like tito's vodka i think it's fucking tasty i might get uh some olives is that a mexican vodka no no it's texas yeah it's made in um austin it's i've never had a vodka that i was like, it's Texan. Yeah, it's made in Austin. See, I've never had a vodka that I was like, oh, that's tasty.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I've just had Sanko's. Maybe I'm second in 2011, but I'm like, he'll drink a Russian vodka, obviously. Well, Stoli's pretty good. Stolichnaya. No, I really do like the Tio's vodka. I had it like five, six years ago for the first time. And it's cheap for what it is. It's so cheap for what it is. It's literally my favorite. I definitely
Starting point is 00:10:10 prefer it over the better vodkas. The more expensive vodkas, I should say. It's my favorite vodka. So I'll probably drink that. Do we know the guest? No. But yeah, some sort of a drinking game would be fun. But of course like a timer that's going off like maybe every 20 minutes for a shot um because you know every 20 minutes a shot for four hours is
Starting point is 00:10:33 is only uh 16 shots i obviously can't do that i got things to do on Friday Yeah you do actually I mean I could be hospitalized When I woke up from the last drinking episode When I woke up from the last one I was so drunk I forgot to put my fucking retainer in And woke up the next morning And was just like oh my god I gotta go to work
Starting point is 00:10:58 And I was like oh this fucking sucks And I was like in my head I'm like fucking Woody and Kyle Probably asleep right now sons of bitches like as i'm standing up getting ready and i go in the bathroom brushing my teeth something feels a little different on my toothbrush i like spit and do the kind of thing it's like oh what do you know cracked off part of your front tooth did you you drunk asshole and so that's the price i paid for the last drinking episode. You may have paid the highest price. I may have.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I always thought I did. Oh. What? It was beyond discomfort. So, yeah, drinking episode should be fun. I hope that we've got a guest who's savvy and is down to get good and drunk. That would be ideal. I think the ideal guest would not be savvy but still down to get good and drunk. That would be ideal. I think the ideal guest would not be savvy, but still down to get drunk. Much like me every episode.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I think that's what I want. Another drinking rookie over their heads just drowning on the show. That's who you want. Tucker was too fucking hardcore for us, I thought. Tucker was. He didn't seem drunk and he served the next day 8 a.m tucker was like let's start another wonderful day we'll see but like and like someone on the subreddit was keeping track of the drinks in like a loose way by like it gets to by the time
Starting point is 00:12:20 it's in like later in the show you're not actually pouring out shots just kind of eyeballing it which could be a little less little i was drinking from the bottle i saw on there because like at the time it's in like later in the show you're not actually pouring out shots just kind of eyeballing it which could be a little less little i was drinking from the bottle i saw on there because like at the time kyle's right i was like man tucker doesn't seem that drunk and i probably weigh 50 pounds more than him you know and i feel pretty tipsy right now and i looked at that counter and i was like this can't be right he beat me he drank more than me with 50 pounds less yeah like in the next morning, like he tweeted something I saw like in the middle of the day and like, in case you missed it,
Starting point is 00:12:49 it was like another great morning or like some, some more shit. And I was like, Jesus, he's, he's the man. We need to not bring him on drinking episodes anymore. He makes us look bad.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Good. I don't know, but I'm guessing quibble cop can't drink a lot. He's small. He's super skinny. Yeah, and he runs a lot, so I doubt he does as much drinking regularly. Interesting. Yeah, he'd be a good one. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:13:12 We'll see what happens. But yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it. It'll be a lot of fun as always. And yeah, Taylor and I or I guess all of us should definitely try to think of some ways to incorporate it into the show. I think drinking games are, you know, a drinking game that lasts the whole show doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:13:30 But some way of incorporating the drinks into the show that could go the full show would be nice. What might be kind of fun is if a fan of the show put together a bingo. Like a drinking episode bingo, if that makes any sense. Woody's face starts sweating. Taylor, whatever, says shenanigans. I'm not sure. Damn it, you're right. I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:13:59 So, just a thought. Yeah, so that'll definitely be fun. So, quite a few things in the in the news today obviously everyone's talking about my paramotor video upload i mean that's how you you took the words out of my mouth next topic uh did you see uh louis ck is performing again finally yeah yeah i i wish that there were video of it even even if it were cell phone video because i want to know if he uh i bet he made fun of himself like right off the start um i i bet he mentioned the whole uh masturbation thing and made it funny uh and and i'd like to see it i wish i if he came up with a special right now i'd be eagerly uh you know clicking the button to watch
Starting point is 00:14:43 that thing you guys are probably too young for this but way back in the day in like the 80s or 90s um peewee herman was huge he like he's giant and he had peewee herman's big adventure and everyone was crazy about it like the tequila dance he did was like a cultural icon and like everyone's doing it like the arcade on the boardwalk and he was just omnipresent in american culture and then like between movies he gets caught masturbating in an adult theater i remember this yeah yeah so suddenly the children's star of the of america or the world becomes persona non grata and his career ends and it's over what and what have you so like i don't know two years go by and everyone's making jokes about it and it's you know this like it's lame and it's non-stop and it's you know endless bullying so he goes on this award show
Starting point is 00:15:39 and the first thing that i've heard him say in two years is like, so heard any good jokes lately owned it, owned it. And it was so great. Everyone was like cheering for him. We went nuts because he knew what was going on and he knew everyone was making peewee jokes. And I would love to see Louis CK treat it the same way. Like,
Starting point is 00:15:59 yeah, you know, like anyone here want to consent or whatever he's going to say, just, uh, look at the front row. Whatever he's going to say. Just own it. Look at the front row. You all filled out your consent forms, right? Yeah, yeah. You guys are like one of those Gallagher shows.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, you could hand out those, like, splash guards or raincoats or something to the front row in case things get spilly. Yeah, see, so apparently when he went out on stage, was like uproarious like yeah yeah louis but as can be predicted on social media it was the exact opposite reaction where it was like i can't believe they brought him back he's a he's basically a rapist you know and it's like still like and people be like it's crazy that now that Louis C.K. is back, only a matter of time until Weinstein Spacey is back too. It's like, God, you fucking liars. You liars.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Not at all the same. He's definitely going to come back. He did not do anything nearly as egregious. And people always act like he was really powerful. He could make or break careers. He was snapping fingers making decisions. Really, this happened in the early 2000s. He didn't have enough influence to get his own career rolling,
Starting point is 00:17:09 and he was going to pull triggers and pull strings to ruin the careers of these people? I don't buy it. Yeah, I think he's definitely going to make a comeback. He's definitely going to have a big special that will come out. I wonder who will take his special, though. Will Netflix run his special? Will it be on Hulu or will it be on demand somewhere?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Will it be an HBO special? Who's going to step out and be like, yeah, we're in the Louis C.K. business? A few years ago, I think, he released one independently on his own where he was like, hey, it's here for a download, and all I ask is please don't pirate it. It's totally within your power if you wanted to is like please don't pirate it it's totally within your power if you wanted to but please pay me five dollars when you download it i saw that huge he made he made more than he would have because he wasn't having to pay uh money to the
Starting point is 00:17:55 um the production company like he did it all i remember it differently i remember him explaining that uh because people were like that thing didn't make any money and it wasn't good it wasn't funny stuff like that and he's like all right all right it didn't make a lot of money yet but you guys have no idea how valuable owning this property is like i own these whole shows and and you know it's not seinfeld but you know seinfeld sold for like a billion dollars 15 years later he will continue to sell that and resell it and make money on it eventually he believes that's how i remember it going down okay you might be right um i do remember it was a surprise to people where they're like no you fool it's the internet no one's gonna pay and then more people than expected did pay did you buy it uh i didn't uh i didn't watch that one until it came out for
Starting point is 00:18:41 free on youtube so nope i i saw it early. I think I bought it. I think it was really cheap. Like I think you even maybe got to choose how much you paid. I might have paid $5 for all of it or something. If that was his 2012 special, I think I did buy it. Okay. It wasn't a special. The one I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:18:57 it was this thing where he played maybe a bartender that he inherited. Oh, that's his TV show. Are we not talking about the same thing? No, no, no. A special. So he thing no no no a special so he did that thing with a special where he released it on his own and had him pay i i don't i'm not familiar with his show really i watched a few episodes of uh either lucky louie or louis special with uh steve buscemi and all those guys on all that yeah i take it back now
Starting point is 00:19:18 i remember it like taylor does the special he did crush it on that and it changed his whole life financially and like taylor's 100 right the tv show that that we're talking about now that was the one where he feels like it'll pay off eventually yeah we were on a different page but yeah yeah that was dark as shit that was super dark and like there was very little funny in that whole thing that like it was just sad he tells you it's different that is not funny and i was like oh he probably means maybe he's being modest no no he wasn't going for funny and every step of it was just like more hopeless problems without solutions it was way too up his own ass like all of his shows are shit louis lucky louis edna and irma or you know whatever the fuck that one is with steve muscemi like they're terrible they're they're almost
Starting point is 00:20:13 unwatchably unfunny because it's a dude doing like artistic style stuff and it's like louis you tell dick jokes the person you are is the guy who was shooting this sit on opening opiate for for years, the hilarious dude. And now you decided that's not enough. I'm going to be this, you know, art house film director who just isn't very good at it. I haven't heard any Louis C.K. fans rave about his shows ever. It's always the standup they like. I have a hard time with Louis to begin with. I don't I think like I've seen all the specials and like i don't know i think like a 20 of the jokes make me laugh or something like that uh i don't know i i like his interviews i like him on the off the cuff i think he's very funny that way i like when
Starting point is 00:20:54 he's on the stern show talking about having sex with a dog like when he's a kid like i'm laughing my ass off but when he's when he's doing his actual stand-up like half the time i'm just like oh that's an hour divided by one funny joke every 10 minutes louis ck to me follows the same trajectory that so many great comics do like the first special oh my god this guy rules comedy he's the best ever second special that was good i enjoyed it i like that dude third fourth fifth special just it's not like it used to be bill burr i could say the same enjoyed it i like that dude third fourth fifth special just it's not like it used to be bill burr i could say the same thing and i like these guys i root for them i want them to have great specials but you know they just don't seem to keep getting better i like you know
Starting point is 00:21:37 who i really like oh john mulaney's good his most recent special wasn't as good which fits right into your uh your fucking paradigm there and uh my favorite guy right now is norm mcdonald yeah because he is he is so fucking funny i was listening to as i was playing uh some video games last night i was listening on uh to an old opium anthony with him where enragingly jimmy pushes him out of the studio so fucking boring ass brock lesnar can come in and he still gets shit from the ONA community to this day of like, why'd you have to push Norm out? Because Norm is hilarious. And Norm is saying like, making fun of the fact that he'd just gotten back on TV
Starting point is 00:22:14 this was like a decade ago, and he's like, yeah, you know, on Netflix they just find some average looking female and throw them up there, give them a special. And they're like, yeah, yeah, you know, they're not quite as funny, and he goes, oh, but that's sarah silverman you know she's hilarious you know who's funnier than her and they're like yeah she is really funny he goes well except dudes that's a great joke and a pretty good impression it's it's hilarious so he was on SNL. He had the weekend update. He had the weekend update desk. That was his. And he was going after O.J. every single week. Every single week he had at least one O.J. joke, maybe two or three.
Starting point is 00:23:06 good friends with OJ Simpson. They golf together. He believes OJ's innocent. They are very good friends. And he goes to, what's his name, that runs SNL. And he's like, hey, that needs to stop. Warren Michaels, maybe? Warren Michaels. And he's like, that needs to stop. It doesn't stop. They fire him from the show. They fire him from the show. That's why? Yeah. So like a year later, he comes back to host, right? And he's got the, his monologue is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You know it wasn't approved. Their monologues are always like pre-approved. He's like, a year ago, I was so not funny, they fired me. Now I'm so funny, I'm hosting.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So either I got a lot more funny or this show fucking sucks. He has some of the funniest quotes that take you a second because they're insulting. He's like, you know, I think most clever people think that poor people are stupid. It's like, just little things.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And he puts people in uncomfortable situations he watch his stand up and follow his twitter he is one of the fun him and colin quinn have two of the funniest twitter accounts out there like it's such a shame neither of them have more reach than they do i feel like i like norm mcdonald's when you guys imitate his highlights then i I actually like Norm MacDonald's. Norm MacDonald's to me. Is like the porn equivalent. Of one of those boob reveals on Reddit. Where for some reason. A woman inexplicably takes like 25 seconds. To show her boobs. It takes fucking forever.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And the payoff is so so. That's a Norm MacDonald's joke. Like he just. No S. He is proud. Norm MacDonald. Okay. That's a Norm MacDonald joke.
Starting point is 00:24:49 He is proud of the fact that it takes him like, I don't know, four minutes to get to the punchline. And then when you're done, it was, let's watch this clip. This is one of my favorite jokes from SNL. One moment, please. He, Oh man. Makes them laugh at this joke, even though they don't want to. That's the best part. Are you ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Ready, set, play. These pie graphs do not add up to 100% because the math was done by a woman. For those of you hissing at that joke, it should be noted that that joke was written by a woman. So now you don't know what the hell to do. No, I'm just kidding. We don't hire women. Wildly overrated.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That was so, so funny. What? Yeah. I think his style of humor is hysterical. He intentionally makes people uncomfortable, but in an odd way where it's not cringe uncomfortable. I never watch him and feel that feeling of discomfort in my stomach where I'm viscerally embarrassed for someone else. I watch him, and I get a kick out of how he is putting that feeling of discomfort in my stomach where I'm viscerally embarrassed for someone else, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like, I watch him, and I get a kick out of how he is putting that feeling into the people who are there physically with him, because I can't imagine the kind of energy he puts off. He's just a very funny dude. It seems like the funniest comedians either sell out, like what he was saying, and become kind of shitty and milquetoast, or they just never get that big. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Norm. I like it. I like the movies he's been in. I like his delivery.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I like those stories he tells that are very long. And the person hosting, yeah, the moth one. I like the one about Johnny. Yeah, the moth one. I like the one about Johnny. The kids are telling the teacher a story that has a moral to it. And each one kid tells the story about don't put all your eggs in one basket. And one of them tells a story that's about don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And then he tells a story about his uncle Johnny who was in Vietnam and killed all the villagers and everything. And it's just, Jesus Christ, by the time you get to the end of that thing, it goes on for a while. But it's fucking worth it. It's so bizarre. He's definitely unique. There's nobody else who does exactly what he does. Let's watch this quick little body cam video here. I saw earlier today it's on the police activity channel uh i think i got it time stamped so you might want to click it and then pause it at like 202 if anyone wants to watch this at home take your out body
Starting point is 00:27:38 cam captures utah cop shooting burglary suspect. I'm ready. This lady had been breaking into cars and she's holding a screwdriver and she has been told to drop this screwdriver for two minutes now. All right, let's watch. Ready, set, play. Take her out like last time. Do you want me to take her out like last time? What?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Pretty good angle for a body camera. That's rare. Get on the ground. Did it work? Did it work? kick her out like last time? What? Pretty good angle for a body camera, that's rare. Get on the ground! Did it work, did it work? Did it work, nigga? Did it work? Didn't work, did it? She's wearing too many clothes, I guess.
Starting point is 00:28:14 She's mocking him. They're both trying. Okay, that's all I got for Taser. Drop the, hey, drop the screwdriver. What's up? Is that a gun gun? Yep. Drop it! Drop it!
Starting point is 00:28:29 What did you think was gonna happen? I didn't know we were gonna go from there to there. Yeah. I don't like this shooting. Shot her in the leg. She's got a screwdriver in her hand. She wouldn't drop it. She's got more in her pocket.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Shot in the leg. She killed her hand out. Yeah, I don't mind. She wasn't complying. She was told many times. She tried to tase, mocked them, made it clear she wasn't going to stop being a threat. Yeah, the Iron County attorney determined that the officer who shot and wounded the woman suspecting the car burglary and parawan in June was not legally justified,
Starting point is 00:29:06 but they say the officer will not face criminal charges. That's not one of the choices. Not legally justified, but we're cool with it. Yeah, I do agree with that. That is weird where they're like, eh, wasn't above board, but... We suspended him for three days. We were on vacation. Yeah, yeah. We had, but... We suspended him for three days. We were on vacation.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah, yeah. We had a long weekend out of it. At his request, we wrapped it around the 4th of July just so we could have 10 days in a row offers. Oh, fuck her. He'd been there for a while. She wouldn't put the screwdriver down. She won't obey instructions.
Starting point is 00:29:41 She gets shot in the leg. Yeah, just for future reference, this kind of video is not good content for PKN because so many people listen to it audio only oh but um they should fork over the fucking money then or or get the fuck out right subscribe donate or get the fuck out i think that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, I mean that, like, I'm kind of split on that. Like, what else was he supposed to do? I don't know, but it seems like he could have tried talking to her, reasoning with her. I feel like you have to be pretty fucking toxically masculine.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I think that's what Kyle's saying. We started that late because that's all that it was. It's put it down, put it down. It's two minutes of that. I'm going to tase you, put it down. I'm going to tase you. And it's just like none of that. It's just, you know, let's – I know we shot her in the leg, but let's pretend he was using lethal force there.
Starting point is 00:30:37 She hadn't quite earned death yet in my opinion. I think that maybe he jumped the gun a little bit on that. She definitely didn't deserve death for that. But when it that you won't be jumping anything anymore yeah he shot her right in her like paintball pants whatever the fuck she was wearing yeah yeah i got her good she bleeds a little afterwards he puts tourniquet on her it's no big deal she's fine oh he's nice after all i i just it's like i keep she wasn't lunging wasn't... A screwdriver is not the kind of weapon that instantly kills. I didn't think the cops had the kind of threat that justifies shooting. And I feel like I line up with the police 80% of the time.
Starting point is 00:31:14 That's where I land. I think I'm just a little conformist in that way. Like, whatever they did was probably right. But this woman was kind of just standing there. Maybe. Even while tasing her, she didn't do anything aggressive. Yeah, I'm glad he shot her. I hope she's got a limp now.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Kyle doesn't even think it's merely appropriate. He's actively happy that the woman was shot. Yeah, I mean, she needed it. She absolutely needed it. I hate those people who are just like, first of all, obey the fucking instructions, but needed it. Like, like, like I hate those people who are just like, first of all, obey the fucking instructions. But,
Starting point is 00:31:47 but then when they're just like, I'm not going to obey your instructions. I'm going to stand here with a screwdriver. Come on, take it from me. Come on, take it from me. Big man.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like, like when they start talking shit to the cops and the cops are standing there where they're fucking Batman utility belt of ass kicking, you're retarded. You're retarded. Like you need to be removed from the, from the general populace. Anyway, i've been okay if you i would have liked it if they had some backup pepper spray if they had pepper sprayer nice i'd have been on their team a hundred percent pepper spray that
Starting point is 00:32:16 bitch baton time i you know i like when they beat him with a baton i always enjoy that i remember that i'll never forget the cop the cop on TV show Cops who brought out the nunchucks. I didn't know that. He had fucking nunchucks and he fucking whacking the person in the back of the legs while they're running with nunchucks. Police issue nunchucks? You know who would get their ass beat if I had nunchucks? You.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Me. Yes. It's proven by every time I played with them. And there is no weapon that is more dangerous to fuck around with than nunchucks. I know. We watched the Ninja Turtles and dude was...
Starting point is 00:32:49 Watched Bruce Lee. He's just... You get them out and you're just... Ow! Yeah. God, they're so hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Why is the wood so hard? What kind of wood is this hard? It's like steel. And like, I catch things all the time and I don't hit things with my fingertips, yet suddenly when I'm trying this shit,
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm nothing but fingertips and elbows and skull. If I'd rather have like a really long stick I could find in the woods as an alternative to a real weapon, like a nunchuck,
Starting point is 00:33:20 I think it's indicative of the fact that weapon sucks. It's a shit-tier weapon that probably some like smarmy Japanese dude invented thousands of years ago because he wanted to look cool. What does smarmy actually mean? Smarmy. Okay, what is that actually? Like being smug, being like, oh, everybody else was like, oh, these are halibut.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like really cool, practical stuff. And he's like, that's not good enough for me. I'm going to use these sticks that have chains between it. And they're like, oh, it's never good enough for Hitokyo. That's the kind of like... He had to be Mr. Special in his Japanese warrior school.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Is my historically based assumption. Somehow trying to prove that nunchucks are better than katanas. Yeah, it's like, you know, picture him as the kind of guy who devoted his whole life to, if you devoted your whole life to training with nunchucks, you'd be like that guy who devoted his whole life to like studying energy, where then he fights the jujitsu guy. And then it's either you double down and ignore the cognitive dissonance of like, oh my God, my whole life has been a lie. I'm not actually a magic man. Or, you know, you actually have to come to terms with it and be oh my god, my whole life has been a lie. I'm not actually a magic man. Or you actually have to come to terms with it and be like, wow, my whole life has been wasted.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Most people are going to deny it in that circumstance, I would think. Anyway. Nunchucks. I've been thinking about this Conor McGregor fight. I'm going to bet on Conor. I think Conor's got this. I've lost all I'm definitely 100% on team Conor. I think lost all... I'm definitely 100% on Team Conor.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I think he's going to win. I just don't... I think Khabib's too slow. I think that he's... People say that. I re-watched the Al Iaquinta fight last night. Conor's going to destroy...
Starting point is 00:35:01 He fights like that. He's dead. So, in that fight, Khabib was sort of trying to make a point that he had a stand-up game. Everyone agrees Al Aliquinta has a good stand-up game. It's the best part of his game. And Khabib actually beat him at stand-up, too. He had his wrestling in his back pocket that he didn't use the whole time. He could have become a panic wrestler and won that fight. But he won it on his feet against a good stand-up guy.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, I don't think he is a good stand-up guy. I think he's more of a wrestler. And he's also barely in the top ten. I don't even know if he is in the top ten. He's definitely in the top ten now, but he wasn't at the time. He was like 11th or something. Dude sells fucking houses for a living. Conor McGregor has the best stand-up in the
Starting point is 00:35:45 fucking MMA, I think. He's going to knock Khabib the fuck out. And if they get to the ground, like, Conor's dangerous from the bottom. Conor's going to be putting elbows on the top of that dude's head, splitting him open. I don't think Khabib is going to take him down more than once or twice, and I don't
Starting point is 00:36:01 think he's going to be able to capitalize if he does the way he did against, say, Michael Johnson or somebody like that. And Conor hits a hell of a lot harder than Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson stunned the shit out of Habib, and if he hadn't gotten that takedown right after, he'd have probably lost that round. Conor's going to win that fight. I'm going to bet on Conor. I hope the betting odds are good so that I make some money on it, but I'm definitely going to put a couple hundred on Conor to win that thing. I don't want to do a bunch of MMA talk. I've come to that conclusion and
Starting point is 00:36:27 I feel very confident about it now after thinking about it a lot. I'll take that bet straight up against you. And if the fight doesn't happen, no bet. Of course no bet if the fight doesn't happen. I really hope it does. I think that's the most likely outcome. Yeah, there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:43 fights scheduled. Every week I hear about another great think that's the most likely outcome because yeah there's a lot of oh there's so many there's a lot of fights scheduled that like every every week i hear about another great fight that's scheduled for this year you know but whether it's amanda nunez and cyborg that's firmed up for december 29th or something like that or it's uh poirier and uh and and nate uh there's a lot of big fights that are supposed to happen it's going to be a good uh you know rest of the year in mixed martial arts. I wish the Conor card was better. Normally Conor fights on... Tony Ferguson's right under it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And then on the bottom of the card... Against who again? Tony's fighting... Fuck. I can't think of it. But I don't care. I'm there to see Tony. Normally when Conor fights,
Starting point is 00:37:28 the co-main is also a championship fight. And the other three are all like Tony Ferguson quality fights. They load up those cards. OSP might be on that card. I like him. And then the female fight, I think, is a good one.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It was one I cared about. I don't know if it's Shevchenko. Shevchenko is probably my favorite female fighter. I think that is a good one. It was one I cared about. I don't know if it's Shevchenko. Shevchenko's probably my favorite female fighter. I think that she should have won the decision against Nunez, and I'm looking forward to her climbing back up the rankings so that she can get a rematch at that. I really like her. She hits so hard.
Starting point is 00:37:58 It's fun to watch her train. We're talking about Nunez right now? I'm talking about Shevchenko. Oh, yeah. I don't think I've seen her train bullet Looks like a man. Do you actually think most of these big fights are gonna happen? It seems like they they pump up like it seems like at least a third and this is coming for someone who doesn't follow UFC Very much. It seems like at least a third of these drop Yeah, I would say that's that's maybe more maybe maybe 75 of them happen uh and 25 don't
Starting point is 00:38:27 someone's you know people are gonna get injured people are gonna uh miss weight uh or people are just gonna not fight like nate may just be like fuck it and like not show up nate nate's a piece of shit sometimes and uh he's already threatened not to not to do his thing i thought he was one of the ones that like really wanted popularity back like he hasn't been as big he's been waiting on connor uh he wants to fight connor again because you know he's he's he's fought him twice and when he fights connor he makes several million dollars and why would he uh not want to why would he back out then or be likely to like if he's got that goal on the horizon of like all right i gotta make it back to connor again get my well at his press conference
Starting point is 00:39:03 uh you know, about his – it was for his next upcoming fight. They rolled a Conor versus Habib-like promo tape, and he stormed off the stage and then talked a bunch of shit to TMZ once he was outside the arena. He's real butthurt that he's not fighting Conor, and seemingly he's been waiting on that for a while. Although, like I said a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 00:39:25 It seems like there was actually a lawsuit between him and his management team over him firing them just before he got the Everything firmed up on the last Connor fight, but you know whatever The the Connor fight is definitely the I think it's gonna be the biggest pay-per-view of all time for a mixed martial arts and And I really I hope Connornor wins of course but i think he's gonna win too so so definitely definitely excited really excited i wish it were closer to me so i could see it i'm not going to fucking vegas right i would love you guys even said that it wasn't that great right it's not that great and that's why i wouldn't travel for if there were one in atlanta here i'd go that. But there isn't. I was looking at the schedule, and the upcoming fights, it's like Toronto, Denver, Russia.
Starting point is 00:40:12 There's one in Russia and Vegas. And I'm not going to any of those places. Certainly not going to Russia. See, but even then, you guys and other people i know who have gone to these kinds of events like we'll say oh it was a neat energy but honestly i can see the fight better and understand more what's going on if i just stay home the thing about if football and hockey i'm sorry to cut you off is you're kind of watching the position of the players on the ice a lot you know with with fighting you're kind of watching like position of their hands, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:46 how high their chin is, and you can't see it. And also, it's through a fence. You know, you're not super elevated that you can see in. You're actually looking through a fence, and it's thick. It's a cage, you've seen it, but it's wrapped in rubber, which makes every wire thicker.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Damn, I wish I didn't know that. It was so much more hardcore when I thought that it was just regular wire. Yeah, like galvanized, scratching them up and stuff. If they brought one to it, I wish they'd bring a fight night fight to Atlanta so that I could get
Starting point is 00:41:16 the very, very front row seats down on the ground right next to the cage, and they'd still be reasonable, like, I don't know, $200 or $300 or something like that. I bet those seats for the Conor fighter, what, $5,000, $10,000 a pop or something like that, something nutty.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And I'm not going to pay something retarded, but if it was like, you know, $200 or $300 and you could get the best of the best seats for like a Friday night, like one of the FS1 fights or whatever. I'd definitely do that. But no, nothing scheduled for Atlanta anytime soon. And if it was close.
Starting point is 00:41:51 You know, like going to Boston is a pretty special event for me. But if it was in Raleigh, I'd absolutely be there. Or even like, I don't know, somewhat closer. Within three hours. Charlotte. But they don't do it much here. Boston might as well have been Mars by the time we got there. You know what?
Starting point is 00:42:11 For me, it went by like that. Fuck you. Fuck you. Oh, fuck you. Why, Kyle, what happened? We don't retell stories on this podcast. No, no, no retelling stories on this podcast. No, no. No retelling stories.
Starting point is 00:42:27 That would be inappropriate here. I just drove 40 hours by myself. How many times, Kyle, did you look over with just like... 80, 90, something like that. I'm sure Kyle was working just as... For me, that was at a time when i still did daily uploads so i was up for like almost 24 hours straight prior to that trip making like six days worth of videos and getting them all uploaded and stuff like that like i
Starting point is 00:42:57 i hadn't slept for a while before that drive but um but then you got a ton of sleep on the way up there. And then you slept late into the day that night. And then on the way back, I drove 22 hours. This is an effective counterpoint. I do see your side of it here. You ever go for a 22-hour drive. It wasn't 22 hours, though.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It might have been 12. It was insane. It was really long. It was something. How long was it? I don't know. It was a GPS problem. We started driving in the morning,
Starting point is 00:43:39 and it was the next morning by the time I stopped. I believe that. Yeah, it was still night when you dropped me off in Raleigh or Apex at the time. The sun was long up by the time I was like, I can't sit on the road anymore. I can't make it.
Starting point is 00:43:54 My truck makes that kind of drive much nicer. It's really something to have it help you out the whole way. Massaging seats keep you a little more alert. Like that works. So that, yeah, I'm happy with it. I had to see a chiropractor after that one. I believe you.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I saw a chiropractor for the first time ever last week. Oh, what'd you think? I didn't actually see a chiropractor, which invalidates the start of the story. Fire! Yeah. So I went to Aviator PPGpg which is a paramotor school eric farewell runs it and uh i go down there sometimes to learn extra skills and um when they had an ex-student like sort of hanging out at the hangar and he was a chiropractor and he
Starting point is 00:44:38 just started adjusting people so i don't know i just sat down where all the other people were sitting down with like a shit-eating grin on my face. Like maybe he'll do it. And he did. He did my neck, which I've never done before. Like he just sort of touched it. He's like, this is the spot. And it was.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And I swear, I'm like analyzing myself. Like are you just easily influenced? You know, was he able to tell you that's where the tight spot? No. He was able to feel it. I swear that's where the tight spot no he was able to feel it i swear that's true and then he just kind of like bent my neck and pulled it up and it made like four cracks as he like and then he had me do the other side and afterwards i felt like i could turn my head further and and again i'm i'm like am i just susceptible to like a power
Starting point is 00:45:22 of persuasion or is there actually a difference my head felt lighter it was cool I liked it yeah I'm a big fan of the chiropractor I go about once a month and it's excellent I love it the guy I go to you know there's there's different levels of chiropractors I feel like mine's good because he has an x-ray machine and because he can like show me improvements and stuff like that that to me is a it it's a bit of proof in the pudding and he does a really really fucking good job i feel like like he's never hurt me or anything and i and you know he'll be like what where does it hurt where does is there anything you're concerned with and like by the time i come out of there i'm i'm a i'm
Starting point is 00:45:58 walking straighter like my posture's better and like like you know my neck doesn't hurt my neck will get stiff sometimes from whatever and fucking i love i i really like the cracking i i'm addicted to that i enjoy it a lot during it yeah and feeling it you know i i crack my knuckles all the time and i watch those videos on youtube of people getting cracked getting adjusted and i can watch a 20 minute video of like people getting like cracked especially if they're hot chicks i right that doesn't appeal to me like there's so many guys are such fucking losers man like like like you should look at these these chiropractic videos and like the ones that blow up and literally have a million, two million views, the thumbnail is yoga pant butt flat on a table. And the guy's putting a hand on her ass and pulling her shoulder to the left.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And I'm like, no, no, no. I don't care if it's a big, fat, sweaty guy. I want to hear some popping and cracking. You're here for the popping. I'm here for two things. You probably want a big, fat guy so it resonates. I like the hot girls. I guess I'm in the loser
Starting point is 00:47:05 category that kyle learned guilty um the other thing i like there's one guy he might be australian because he has an accent but he seems to treat people who are injured or like they're having a problem they can't stand up correctly and he does them and then all of a sudden they're like 20 better right there you know two later, they're cured. I don't know if they would have been cured anyway. I'm a very big chiropractic skeptic, right? I put them on the same level as like a masseuse. Do they help people heal?
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, absolutely. Therapeutic massage is a real thing, no doubt about it. But they're not surgeons or anything. Joe Rogan has a story. He had an inflamed thing in his spine. I forget the term for it, but he went to a chiropractor for ages, and he just wasn't getting better.
Starting point is 00:47:55 He felt better maybe right off the table, but over time it wasn't better, and then he went to an actual doctor, and they're like, look, right here. Do you see this thing? See this? That's a slipped joint. That's inflamed.
Starting point is 00:48:06 We've got to pop it or something. And they popped it or fused it or whatever it is they did, and he was just better. He's like, for 10 years I went to this chiropractor. And they kept telling me there was nothing wrong with me that didn't need a little adjustment or a little massage. And then he goes to a regular doctor, and they fix it right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Anyway, chiropractors to me are like masseuses they do great things they're just you know you gotta double check their work yeah it's it's definitely uh uh not not quite medicine you know it's uh it's definitely not quite medicine yet i uh i watch a guy sometimes on youtube who not only adjusts people he adjusts animals they will bring... Do they yell? That must be good, because you can't know
Starting point is 00:48:47 if it worked or not. He adjusts cats, dogs. I saw him adjust a pony. And he's popping these animals, and they're like... And the animals just, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:59 seemingly... That's really funny, because I just started a business recently where I read cats' futures. Ah, a paw reader. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Ah. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Speak to them in cat. Oh, yes. I can't have the owner knowing I'm making things up for $100 an hour.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Meow. Meow. Meow. See, that's kind of the same oh man what a gig being a chiropractor for animals just have like some bubble wrap that you stand near be like as you're doing it you know with the other person in the waiting room fantastic business idea put this next to uh tit milk got it okay yeah it's it's fucking great to watch a an old man adjust a pony you brought up watching the pony adjust the old man hey am i alone in that these this boob reveal trend is stupid what do you mean i all right so i'm on reddit too much too much. And Kyle and I have mentioned, if it says not safe for work, it's a must click, right?
Starting point is 00:50:08 I click maybe one in every 10 articles. But if it says not safe for work, I'm like a 90% clicker. And a lot of them are these just boob reveals where they pull their shirt up really slowly. That's a titty drop. A titty drop. Thank you. That's what I'm going for. A titty drop.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And then at the very end, they've kind of pulled their boobs, so they're up and they flop down. And I guess I'm in the minority because these are very popular. These titty drop videos or titty flop videos, they're just always going crazy. And they're not videos. They're GIFs. Tell me, am I alone?
Starting point is 00:50:41 This is stupid. All by yourself, man, on an island all alone. I like the titty drop. I do as well. I also like Bigger Than You Thought. I feel like these are sister titty subreddits. Bigger Than You Thought I find fascinating for science. Because they mix together sometimes because you get the titty drop and they're bigger than you thought.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That can happen, yeah, yeah. drop and they're bigger than you thought that can happen yeah yeah another one i don't like in the same category is girls who like pull pants up over their butt and act like it's impossibly hard and it takes 60 seconds worth of dancing and jiggling to get their pants on i like that i don't mind if it's actually hard to get those pants on over that fat ass, you have my attention. But if they're pretending that these obviously stretchy pants won't stretch over their butt, get the fuck out of here. See, I'm always more likely to click
Starting point is 00:51:34 the not-safe-for-work ones that say, like, insane stuff. Like, Indian man on train grabs exposed power line or, you know, horrible car crash, animal attack, like that kind of stuff where, you know, it's going to be real, like pretty gruesome. Those are the ones that I click on probably 95% of the time. I like the ones. I'm always pleasantly surprised when it's something that's actually not safe for work, like a forklift.
Starting point is 00:52:02 You're using a ladder on a forklift. Oh, OSHA. OSHA violation type stuff. I know I'm familiar with the OSHA subreddit. for work like a forklift you're using a ladder on a forklift and i'm like osha osha's violation type stuff i know i'm familiar with the osha subreddit but yeah when it's that sort of thing like some guy with one foot on a ladder and one foot on a shaky handrail like ah that's not safe for work i get it speaking of not safe for work uh i was watching a madden tournament and then interrupted into gunfire apparently one of the competitors at a madden tournament tournament down in jacksonville florida which i believe was held at like a pizza place like this wasn't like one of those big like sold out arenas this wasn't dota or fucking pub g or counter-strikeStrike or anything like that. This is like 30 guys in a pizza parlor, I think.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, it was not a huge to-do. This kid loses, leaves, comes back with his fucking handgun and shoots the guy who's playing on stream. You can see the laser pointer appear on his chest. Did he kill that guy? Did that guy leave? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:05 He killed two people. I don't know who. He killed two people. Yeah. I thought he killed four. They said four originally, including the shooter. But it appears now that it's two plus shooter. Okay. So three total.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Like 11 wounded or something like that. You can see that little, like they slow it down in the GIF version where you can see the dancing laser. Like right as the game is going. So I assume that guy who had the laser on him probably died but even like crazier is like this dude i think was from maryland and the guns were bought in maryland so this dude brought them with him from maryland down to jacksonville like did he anticipate like was he thinking the whole time like If I lose this Madden tournament, I'm walking out to my car, I'm getting my gun, and I'm going in and killing whoever beat me or whoever's winning the tournament.
Starting point is 00:53:51 That makes me think that this was his contingency plan. Suck it, Madden, but I'm great at Call of Duty. That was fucked. Look, we know all about gamer rage here. I was going to say Wings of Redemption would never do this, fucked look look we are we know all about gamer rage here like like i i was gonna say wings redemption would never do this but i don't know maybe if maybe i mean we had that we've had some pride remember after syndicate beat him like the conversations that that it was a homicidal conversation there were some homicidal conversations where he's ready to to to push a button on old uh on old tom but so so so maybe
Starting point is 00:54:27 that's what happened you know like like maybe this was oh how great would it be if this if the shooter were like a a madden youtuber and we could like go back and like watch him play some madden and see his rages like like like it that would make it so much better he had a mental health history he was on no shit but he was on he was on two medications i read and he had seen a psychologist for help before but i guess i believe he was on some kind of ssri and nothing is as similar between all the most recent like two dozen plus of these shooters than having been on SSRIs. What are some examples of SSRIs?
Starting point is 00:55:11 So a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor would be something like Prozac, like those antidepressants, anti-anxiety drugs. And it's something people don't talk about that much, probably because of how much influence the pharmaceutical industry has. But, like, so many of these people are on ssris yeah like it's it's not like a huh maybe 50 it's not even 75 it's like 90 plus wings is on them too so be careful what you say about it i just to present a counterpoint people that have mental health problems are on ssris right so it's hard to say whether the s the chicken and an egg thing here,
Starting point is 00:55:46 right? Do SSRIs make people shooters, as I think you might be implying, or are shooters the kind of people that need SSRIs? That's definitely a good point. Yeah, I've thought about that too. Like, I think that it's a combination, but also, like, it's not like they're on antipsychotics, or they're on, you know, a lot of them, they're not even diagnosed bipolar. Some of them are. But I think that it's a real thing that in a select group of people, these drugs, and you can look up studies and know how maladaptive these drugs are to certain groups of people.
Starting point is 00:56:18 They're really, they fuck with you. Because a related thing is a lot of times people on antidepressants are committing suicide. And it's like, oh, right. But people who are depressed are the ones that commit suicide anyway. You don't necessarily say the antidepressant caused it. That's true. But in some people, and this is known, it can induce feelings of suicidality. People, they'll say, that's why if you get on SSRIs, they'll tell you, oh, you're feeling depressed, you're feeling anxious.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Well, do you have any feelings of suicide? No, no, no. I don't want to self-harm at all. All right, well, take these pills. It'll help with your anxiety. If you get any suicidal ideation or self-harm thoughts, let us know immediately. Yeah. I mean, they test those things against placebo.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Trigger in some people. You know, they test those things against placebo, and the study group is people with depression. and it's not and and the study group is people with depression and still the people who are on those drugs have a much higher rate of self-harming thoughts and and uh suicidal tendencies and such they definitely genetic testing is magic like are you familiar with genetic testing yeah okay um i actually had a friend who did a lot of the groundbreaking stuff in this i was in woodworking a long time ago and that's what he did in his day job. He would determine how people reacted to different medicine. So they would get some of your blood and say,
Starting point is 00:57:33 Adderall will do this to you. Prozac will do that to you. And that's so much nicer than saying, you know, 85% of people that take Prozac have a good experience. You feeling lucky? You feeling lucky? Yeah, let's roll the dice.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah, you know roll the dice. That's how they did it before genetic testing. Now with genetic testing, they can say, you know what? Taylor, you're a Motrin guy. Kyle, you're an Aleve guy. That's what you should be taking when you get headaches. Aleve is a headache thing, right? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I was this close to branding one of you a Midol guy, and I'm like, no, no, not Midol. That's the period one. Oh, it's Kyle's time of the month. But who knows? Maybe Midol is the right fit for one of us. And yes, that's what genetic testing does. Quebelkop said he got inexpensive genetic testing to check the right boxes, he finds out that he's whatever nordic heritage and he likes ibuprofen or something i'd want to get a real one not these 23 and me ones because there there have been like so many cases of people like sending it in multiple times and just getting totally ass backwards examples and then there's also examples of uh uh the people who work there admitting to putting
Starting point is 00:58:45 certain uh uh like genetic stuff in people's tests despite the fact that they you know aren't actually that like i would want to go to like a real deal geneticist to have it done and also because 23andme is selling your genetic material yeah you want to like give something to throw off the case to be like my name name is Igor Grigorkowski. And then if they tell you, oh, well, you're mostly... Forward for the Flyers? He's probably one of our goalies. Igor Grigorkowski?
Starting point is 00:59:14 Like, damn it. Really? Because according to this, you're black. No, I... I lost my goddamn train of thought. Genetic testing, medicine, efficacy. Yeah, you don't want to give them, if you do it, just give them a fake name or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Otherwise, your poor uncle, who may have raped eight or nine college students in the 80s, is going to go down for life or something like that. I don't like that when I hear about that. I get they're solving cold cases or whatever, but it just feels wrong. It just feels wrong. It feels right to me. I like it. whatever, but it just feels wrong. It just feels wrong.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It feels right to me. I like it. A little justice. It feels wrong. Yeah, but if they're using 23andMe data and that's known to be wrong in a lot of cases, that's not good. Let's hope they test again. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:00:00 That was a real deal. We're at an hour, but I had a thing. Oh, the Pope. Have you guys been following this story at all? Ah, the Pope. So here's my understanding thus far. So in Pittsburgh, right, where the penguins and pedophiles reside, there was all this, like, not coincidentally, I might add. Those are concentric circles.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah. those are concentric circles yeah uh there there was a big scandal where you know priests and cardinals and whatnot have been doing terrible things to kids pedophile style okay well now they want the pope out of there but the deal is this it's not actually this pope's fault no one has linked him to any knowledge of any of this stuff. What it is is the current Pope is a little more progressive than the Catholic Church typically is, right? He's not throwing people out for using contraception. He even says, like, well, we don't have to be pro-gay, but how about if they're gay and they're Christian, they're still welcome in the church? He's like the hate the sin, not the sinner kind of guy.
Starting point is 01:01:06 So, there are forces in the church trying to get him out under the guise that this pedophile thing is what they care about, but what they actually want to do is put in a more hardline pope that will take us back in the day.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah, fuck those fucking pieces of shit. The Catholic Church is such an evil organization. They spend billions of dollars hiding this stuff, millions of dollars hiding this stuff. Avoiding legislation that would make it tougher on those pedophile priests. They shuffle those pedophile priests around from one country to another to get them away from their accusers. Yeah, it's fucking insane.
Starting point is 01:01:46 It's criminal organization. It's fucking criminal organization. This happens at the top rungs of every organized religion. Of every organized source of power. Every organized religion. Yeah, that's true. That's why I think really high people in other religions or in Hollywood love the Catholic scandal stuff. Because detracts from all of them because then they get skirt by still doing their shit. People who want to prey on children seek out positions where they have exclusive access to children.
Starting point is 01:02:17 That will always be the case. It's always been the case. Like pediatricians. Well, that's – how about how about dedicated you're like seven years in these days perfect example larry nazar that guy who was with the the gymnasts yeah he was like their team doctor like technically a pediatrician because they're all under the age of 18 and hundreds of them came poor. He was the best at it. He was the best at picking a job for a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:02:50 No one. Not only is he getting to feel up underage girls for a living. These are top tier underage girls. I only barely know the details of that case. They were not... He wasn't technically a pedophile, right? Because he was going after like 16 to 20. No uh okay a lot of these girls are like 12 yeah 15 ish like
Starting point is 01:03:10 because most of them hit like their peak of gymnast stuff like early teens right yeah like your flexibilities max yeah there's a little bit i don't even know if that i'm a little confused what's a pet because i know a pet if they were, and these undeveloped girls, that's pedophile. If they're 14-year-old Olympic athletes, that's illegal and immoral. Is it pedophile? It depends what they look like. It depends what's driving him. Which is why I said illegal Olympic athletes. It really doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:03:36 It's that they're underage girls. That's probably the best way to go about talking about it. He seems like a pedophile because he's going after these very i think the victims range from 12 to like 16 and and then the thing is he would start molesting a girl when she was like 11 or 12 and then it would go on for four or five years like as long as she's on the olympic team you know like like they're going to a whole new olympics and he's still like feeling these girls up is this also related to the ohio ohio state wrestling thing that's been in the news? I don't know anything about that.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah, I haven't heard that at all. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess the doctor that treated Ohio State wrestlers was a pedophile. And it got attention because there's a Republican senator, House of Rep dude. It might be Trey Gotti, but I'm a little – don't take that to the bank. And everyone says he knew, that he knew. And guys are like, I absolutely positively know he knew. We had a conversation about it, he and I.
Starting point is 01:04:34 And they came at him from like eight different people. And one of the guys is a big MMA dude. I forget his – I forget who it was. But yeah, he's been accused from like seven different angles of sort of looking the other way. i haven't heard about that story one bit yeah i'm glad i don't have kids like you just be like it just it just i would feel like there's predators everywhere especially if you got a good looking kid like i think you want an ugly kid right like like if your kid's like super ugly you're like go ahead join the team don't worry about it like dad the coach he uh i felt a little uncomfortable when he when he was massaging me today trust me honey he was trying to help there was nothing
Starting point is 01:05:13 sexual in that massage i i mean i could barely look at you myself i noticed that my massage was 45 seconds while stephanie's was half an hour alone in the back room it's like see that's that's why i feed you poorly until you're old enough to fend for yourself. It's because you look like a ghoul. You look like a ghoul. Dad, why do I have to apply bacon grease to my face every night before bed? I'm keeping you safe. The guy's name was Jim Jordan.
Starting point is 01:05:40 He's a Republican, like federal guy. Jim Jordan. Yeah. Sounds familiar. I don't know. You probably recognize his face if you saw him. And you know guys are like
Starting point is 01:05:49 yeah I had a conversation about him and he said you know I'd fucking kill that guy if he ever tried that with me. Like that that implies that he knew about it and looked the other way.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yeah. Was he going after guys I suppose the wrestling team. It makes sense. I guess so. I mean do they have a ladies wrestling team, if that makes sense. I mean, do they have a ladies wrestling team there? I don't even know. I'm pretty ignorant.
Starting point is 01:06:10 The way they made it sound is that this was a poorly kept secret that everybody knew about. Yeah. But it's forever ago, and I guess it's just he said, she said. You would think that those people would be driven out of society sooner rather than later.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I think so. But there will always be more. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that there are just either it's one or two things. Either it's like we said on the show the other week and we often say that they're just born that way. Or maybe it's just really that good. Have we considered that?
Starting point is 01:06:45 You are making a lot of sense. Because I don't know about you guys. Never molested a child. I don't know about you guys. Haven't tried it myself. But there are a lot of people who have, despite the fact that it's very risky. All right? You you storm the beach i'm going to be waiting back at the in the amphibious landing vehicle waiting for updates you know
Starting point is 01:07:10 so many men to risk their lives their livelihood their family uh you know their their humiliation self-respect that'll be pretty good right i don't know because well i didn't get laid i did kiss 12 year olds when i was 12 yeah and i remember them being lousy see i think they're just pedophiles and they just don't want adults you get out of here with that taylor yeah interesting theory i don't know about that but kyle's theory pretty compelling yeah sure there's no evidence but sure like all right most people who try things for the first time are really good at it right no no i don't think we're looking for skill on there i'm looking for a little skill jesus christ no it's a 12 year old still has a fully developed
Starting point is 01:08:07 gag reflex get that shit out of here am i alone here i'm not i do agree with you that you're not necessarily born that way because there is a verifiable like proven connection between the likelihood of someone who is molested as a child you know more likely to become a pedophile like many many many pedophiles were molested as children it more likely to become a pedophile. Many, many, many pedophiles were molested as children. It's almost like that's how pedophiles are reproducing. Some people say pedophiles just
Starting point is 01:08:34 spring out of the ground! Which is of course ridiculous. Some say there are no pedophile women. I just got the Lord of the Rings female dwarf reference. I was a little step behind on that one. You guys want to call it a show? Yeah. All right, PKN210.
Starting point is 01:08:55 If you're a pedophile, let us know how that's going for you. Yep.

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