Painkiller Already - PKN #214

Episode Date: October 5, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Painkiller Nearly, episode 214. All right, we got Connor stuff, new Flyers mascot. Did my flying thing. We could talk about that. I knew that Kyle wouldn't care about the Flyers mascot at all, but it is, it's so dumb and so bad. The best. Within, no, wait for it, Woody.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You're going to like the twist. The first three hours, I was like, this is the most retarded mascot i've ever seen in my entire life like this is so dumb what is it what is a gritty and it looks just like a big rotten carrot with orange fur i gotta see it you gotta see it and then i noticed him at a press conference one there was a clip of him and his first time skating at the whatever arena philly plays in and he landed on his ass badly and he fell pretty hard and that made me like him a little more and then i saw that actually the eyes of the mascot uniform are googly eyes and so when he turns around quickly he looks like a deranged maniac so i very quickly flipped 180 on my gritty stance and i'm pro gritty dude i think it's really
Starting point is 00:01:00 funny the um the philadelphia fan, the Philly fanatic for baseball, is often regarded as the best mascot in baseball. And to me, Gritty is reminiscent of the fanatic. He is. They're the same class. Nothing beats this. This looks like some... What is this?
Starting point is 00:01:24 What is this thing? This is gritty. What is a gritty? There's already been a lot of fan edits to it, which are really funny. I don't know what it is. It's really disturbing. You know that socialist who won in New York?
Starting point is 00:01:38 These are the kind of eyes I was talking about. Lots of white above the pupil with gritty. I don't know what this is if you if you're listening to this and you don't give a shit about hockey like me i this is a shining moment in in hockey news there's this is interesting this thing looks like a an ewok mixed with like a yet, mixed with a Russian. He's got his playoff beard all year long. He was tweeting at the Penguins official account, like, we're going to kill those Penguins. Like, a little over the line things,
Starting point is 00:02:20 like for the rest of the NHL accounts. But I liked it. I thought it was good. No, I like that. I think you need to push the envelope, especially if you look like that, like there's no need in being mealy mouthed about your trash talk. Like let them know you're here to,
Starting point is 00:02:32 you're here for blood. And you gotta be big. Like you gotta be eye catching. If you're going to be a hockey mascot, because it's not like football or any other sport where it's like, where's the mat? Oh, he's kind of just fiddling around over there dancing.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I guess like in hockey, it's like, you know, there's no room on the ice for you. Fucker. like you got to make that little amount of time in between periods pop yeah make sure people remember you gotta be seen from the stands this guy's out there this guy's great what the fuck is that thing yeah it's it's a made up thing it honestly it's terrifying like like it really is a little scary like especially in this first image you sent like this is the sort of thing that would scare a child i've seen children cry when like the easter bunny comes in the room yeah that's the mashup i linked you please this thing would terrify an adult you
Starting point is 00:03:14 see it at nighttime like that thing's outside my window 10 p.m i'm a little groggy i'm terrified something's getting shy yeah terrified of this thing look at it look at the eyes his his like photo shoot is upsetting almost like where he's in a dark arena with his his eyes bloodshot like looking like he's on the middle of a bender he's he's cheering on the the fucking flyers to victory though because if the flyers don't win that's who they answer to he's great he's great i i can't think of a better mascot in all of hockey it has the googly eyes you're right when it like it like flips its head and like and the and the eyes are just like wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle oh that's great what horse shit mascots are so fucking dumb and what oh they are
Starting point is 00:04:03 but what's dumber, cheerleaders? I think they did a better job than anyone else in the NHL. They embraced the silliness. I like that. What's sillier, though? Cheerleaders or mascots? They're both pretty silly. It depends what you favor. If you like the little tidbit of sexiness, cheerleaders are better. But if you like the potential for silliness...
Starting point is 00:04:23 What if we combined the two? A sexy mascot. That's something you don't see very often. You have the mascot trip the cheerleaders or something unexpectedly. Or they go to... Not literally combine them, but like a mash-up where it's a cheerleader...
Starting point is 00:04:37 No, like all wear different parts of the same outfit. You mean like the mascot runs really fast into the children? No, not literally combine them in a blender or anything, but like sexy lady from the neck down, silly Muppet creature neck up. Like there's a help that she's wearing the big head, googly eyes and all,
Starting point is 00:04:58 but big fucking titties underneath and a thong. I like that. We could probably convince the women to wear even less, knowing that your face is never going to be seen. And you open yourself up to a whole lot of butter faces out there who don't charge nearly as much as your average cheerleader.
Starting point is 00:05:16 No. And you can already tell they've got 90% of the game already complete. So it's going to have to be a real disaster when they take this mask. And if you take this mask off, it's only going to be an improvement, even if they have a terrible one. That's just idiots. Well, good for the Flyers. Maybe it'll spur
Starting point is 00:05:32 them on to a successful season whenever that starts. When does the season start? Eight days. Eight days. All right. Yeah, a little over a week. Something to pay attention to. If you told me the Stanley Cup was yesterday or tomorrow, I'd have believed either one equally.
Starting point is 00:05:50 That's how I am with baseball. I'm like, I know October's a big month, right? Yeah, yeah. That's when it hits? Yeah, of course it does. I grew up in St. Louis. Of course I know these things. Yeah, Braves.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Wings of Redemption called it. Atlanta Braves won the National League East. He called it before the season. They absolutely did. First time in five years. So they're going to the World Series? No, they won their piece of their division. So the National League,
Starting point is 00:06:17 and there's a National League and the American League. Amongst the National League, there are multiple divisions, and they won their division. So they're in the playoffs. So they're among the top six in baseball um yeah something like that or the top eight i may have decided in baseball yet yes well oh actually there may be some teams who had were some instances where they haven't quite been decided yet i'm not sure but a lot of the teams
Starting point is 00:06:41 have clenched it already yankees clenched I'm almost positive I don't know who the wild card from the East will be. I know the Phillies Were second I think or at least I need to check that I know the Braves beat them Today that wasn't nice Wow, they're in our division Yeah, you're the the Braves are the only team in the East to have clinched so far. No, they didn't make it. Phillies are out. They're definitely not getting the wild card. Nationals were second in our division.
Starting point is 00:07:11 The Cardinals might. Yeah, maybe. I'll hear when people start talking about it. People are wearing red. I don't know. I think right now the Cardinals are half a game ahead of the Rockies, and they're in. Nice.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Well, there we go. Oh, speaking of sports, the old Mizzou-Georgia game this weekend. It was closer than I thought it would be, given that we also got hosed from a stopping of forward motion play, which they picked up as a fumble. Anyone who has, come on, you know that was bullshit, where they push the guy back three yards, then he dropped it, and then they pick it up and he runs it in. And then there was also the three points
Starting point is 00:07:51 where the internet was like, they just called a good field goal no good. And there were people doing geometry. Like, yeah, that was totally good. It was an accepted thing. Yeah, that was a flub. And so really, it should have been 39 to 40 if we got those, like, assuming no extra point there. Or 38 to 40, assuming no extra point.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. I only watched the games where we were playing a legitimate opponent. So I missed that one. You missed that one? No, I just skipped that one. Man, I can't wait until Alabama pushes your shit in again. Oh, we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We'll see about that. Dude, Mizzou just made a competent game against you guys. It was an ugly win. It was an ugly win. The rest of Georgia's wins have been quite convincing. Were you guys, had the refs? Yeah, but who have you played so far? South Carolina?
Starting point is 00:08:35 That's a big game for us every year. That's almost always closer than it should be. South Carolina always plays a good game against us, and we trounced them this year. I mean, there's a reason they're ranked number three in the country they don't just throw dice and figure that shit out I know Georgia's good but South Carolina's not right
Starting point is 00:08:53 they're not great I thought they were top 25 or something when we beat them before we beat them we play them next week we'll see I only really care about Mizzou if they're playing Georgia and even then not much yeah i only watch the clips but and they wore these ugly ass helmets my my alma mater
Starting point is 00:09:13 nc state still undefeated what's gonna happen with our west virginia game it was canceled because of hurricane florence do they just like squeeze it in or is it over like no they will play it yeah i'll have like one of their bye weeks will get taken up yeah i guess west virginia is i think pretty good this year actually they're currently 14th so maybe just like that one uh north carolina is one of those teams where you count also getting votes like they're not terrible but they're not top 25 that's where we like to hang out that was like fun for a year and a half at mizzou when it was like yeah we won the sec east again and then just get the shit pushed in by you know whatever you know huge sec school alabama whatever the fuck but yeah you know if Mizzou can't do well, I hope Georgia does well. If the rankings went to 36, we'd be ranked.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Ah. Maybe they'll open it up a bit. The AP 36. Yeah, fuck Alabama. I always hope for some sort of a natural disaster to occur and just wipe those people out. That is just a perennial world beater. Maybe Clemson will push your shit in and change it up.
Starting point is 00:10:28 They're like, Alabama's second team is a really good and competent D1 SEC school. Yeah. Like, if you're like, all right, we're going to do Georgia. They will beat Missouri. Georgia versus Alabama's second team. And it would be like, I don't know. It's going to be really close, guys. I saw on Twitter when the game was going on,
Starting point is 00:10:48 people like Alabama versus Texas A&M. And Texas A&M isn't great, but they're no slouch of a team. And people were like, man, it was 31 to 30, like at half. And one of the main comments from people was like, 31 to 13. 31 to 13, not 31 to 30. 31 to 13. And they're like not 31 to 30. 31 to 13. And they're like, man, gotta hand it to Texas A&M. They're keeping it close.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's like this is insane. They have nearly half their score. I know. Somebody needs, this is, we need Monopoly busters for college football where they're like, Alabama, you gotta settle down. We know you don't have any professional sports. We're ranked number two now.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Georgia's number two now. We moved up in the polls. Two and three. Coaches three and two AP. Okay. You and Clemson are trading your spots. That makes sense. I would much rather Clemson be behind you guys or them lose
Starting point is 00:11:42 because I have a friend who went to Clemson and is always on their jock. It a friend who went to Clemson and is always on their jock. It's Clemson. Clemson? No one says it directly. Oh, Clemson. Why did you go to Clemson? No.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I used to drive through there a good bit. I knew a girl who went to Clemson. We used to recruit out of there. I probably said it wrong the whole time i was there but yeah a lot of anybody i did they're all from the most from the south they can't pronounce uh these are it oil they're from india ah okay well they definitely can't yeah they don't they can't pronounce shit you were saying that you had some sort of conor mcgregor insight or something you watched, Taylor. What do you got? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So, like, I get all of my UFC information from you guys, for the most part. And I was like, alright, this seems like a pretty good one. And this Nurmagomedov seems fascinating because he doesn't talk that much, at least from what I can tell. Not that I've watched the interviews, which he doesn't speak. But I was like, alright, I'm going to watch
Starting point is 00:12:42 some highlights of this guy. And I don't remember which one of you is voting or betting on mcgregor and which one of these on kyle's for connor okay you're for con because i always like my layman stance just like yeah i bet connor's gonna win like yeah he's the more famous guy like he's great at boxing i don't know i haven't heard of this other guy with the you know you know a name that you couldn't even put on a name plate in any other professional sport that's why i became a ufc fighter he couldn't go into basketball hockey and they don't do hyphens to expand and i was watching a highlight video of this guy and like he he seems exciting and he seems to not mind getting beat around quite a bit and he seems
Starting point is 00:13:21 to have fucking energy in like round four or whatever the fuck when everybody else like other fit dudes these aren't like man this heavyweights you know fucking really staying with it in round three it's like he's like two really fit lean guys and one of them's exhausted and khabib is coming out with like a flying kick in the first two seconds and i'm like all right this guy i hope this guy beats the shit out of connor because the only thing in the comments i could garner, and YouTube comments are an excellent place to get perspective, is that, is Connor,
Starting point is 00:13:50 he's got a heavy hand. And so they're like, if Khabib can avoid that heavy hand, his heavy left or right or whatever it is, then he gets him on the ground, he's gonna butt fuck Connor. And so is that kind of the high-level novice view of like, he's gotta avoid it? Connor is outstanding at
Starting point is 00:14:06 working distance and being in the perfect range where he can touch your chin and when he does they call it the touch of death he's just good he hurts he hurts it hurts a lot when Connor hits you now Khabib he's outstanding
Starting point is 00:14:22 at closing the distance grabbing your legs and making you fall over. And then once he does, no one keeps you down quite like him for minutes. He'll, he'll like multitask and shit while he's beating you up. And he just, he holds you down,
Starting point is 00:14:36 he hits you. And it's just a grinding, painful, awful way to lose a fight. And it's elbows have seen some wear because I saw the, as hard as he was hitting people with those elbows like just watching the video i'm like he's got to call it off right he's gonna he's gonna cave this man's skull in like an eye's about to pop with how how hard and how quickly
Starting point is 00:14:55 and he's a little dude and so you got sharper elbows there's kind of an unstoppable or what is unstoppable object versus unmovable object i ruinedoppable object versus unmovable object. I ruined it. Yeah. Instoppable force versus unmovable object thing happening going on there. We're one so good. You can't take him down cause he hits you. The other is so good. You can't avoid being taken down. Let's watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Uh, very excited about it. Um, I think Connor's going to win this for, for a number of reasons that we've went through two or three times now, but, just super excited to see the fight. Super excited to see the fight. Super excited to see the fight.
Starting point is 00:15:25 We're less than two weeks away now. It's going to be massive. It's going to be a huge fight. It's going to be a crazy night. The atmosphere, I'm sure, in that arena is just going to be nuts. Because what you'll notice if you watch the fight, Taylor, is Conor brings his cheerleaders with him. They pay to come cheerlead for Conor.
Starting point is 00:15:45 From Ireland. From Ireland. They pay. Well, he's saying they buy flights and travel to Vegas. The arena will be full of Conor fans. There will be eight guys who are cheering for Nurmagomedov, and they're all on his team. And then there will be a whole wave of Irish flags out there in the audience,
Starting point is 00:16:04 and they'll be singing, Ole, ole. You'll know they're there. a whole wave of Irish flags out there in the audience. And they'll be singing, Ole, ole. You'll know they're there. Remember when Apollo Creed came in versus Ivan Drago? One guy walks in kind of stone-faced and then Living in America starts playing and he's dressing
Starting point is 00:16:18 and he's dancing. That will be the scene, but an Irish version of it. It's like the pinnacle of home field advantage. Boo! Fuck you! I liked Khabib's struggling in one post-fight thing. He clearly doesn't speak English that well, but his attempt at trash talk was like,
Starting point is 00:16:40 Ireland, 5-6 millions. Russia, 150 millions. We six millions Russia 150 millions population how many things coming along is number one easy fight in lightweight division. And Rogan's like, yeah, yeah, all right then. Nurmagoguga. Yeah, Nurmagoguga. Oh, here's the thing. Oh, Nurmi. If you happen to watch the fight,
Starting point is 00:17:15 Khabib always brings his hat with him. It's this big, fluffy, like, fur white hat. And he sticks it on Joe Rogan every fight. And Joe wears it. He doesn't care. He rocks it. So I like it. And some of the other fighters were like, that's favoritism.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You know, like, how come you wear his hat? And Joe's like, bring me a hat. I'll wear it. You know? I wear it because he brings me a hat. Well, I don't want to tell him no. So I put the fucking shaka on and I say thank you. Do you know what it don't want to tell him no so i put the fucking shot on and i say thank you do you know what it's called a shaka an ushanka ushanka oh no an ushanka is uh the fur hat uh
Starting point is 00:17:56 that you see a lot of times in the in the movies that he's wearing this uh it's this like doesn't he just have a white one of those no no he's. He's got this big, poofy, like, yak-herding hat or something that's very regional. And Ushanka is the sort of brown fur hat that's much nicer to look at. I've got an Ushanka.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I know. I remember you wearing it in a video. Well, nothing comes up on Google Images for a puffy, yak-herding hat. If you search for a Khabib hat then uh and i'm showing it to people if you're a patreon we thank you very much and you're looking at images of the hat there's even one of joe rogan wearing it like i said oh this looks more like it's called a papaka a papaka yeah is in native to dagestan yeah which is of course over there yeah it's a region of uh of russia a mountainous region apparently i watched this whole video there's this guy who
Starting point is 00:18:54 does videos and he's got a very nice radio voice but he doesn't show his face instead he shows like a salamander like an animated salamander talking. And he breaks down body language. Oh, different one. I don't know. He breaks down like body language and gives you like a lot of inside knowledge and stuff about, I think, MMA. It's always MMA when I watch. And he was showing when Habib versus when Conor went to Russia and how they were both treated. He was like, Habib makes it sound like
Starting point is 00:19:27 he's got 150 million Russians behind him, and yet he can walk the streets and no one knows who he is. He's like, when Conor flew into Russia, he's meeting with Vladimir Putin himself. And they show the whole meeting. And it's like Conor and Vladimir, and he goes
Starting point is 00:19:44 frame by frame. He's like, Conor puts his arm around Putin. Look at Putin. He doesn't shrink away. He throws his arm right around Conor. Even the security guy is taken aback. Conor quickly moves his arm to a less familiar position. Meanwhile, Khabib's having to buy his
Starting point is 00:19:59 own tickets just to get into the Russian soccer game. He just breaks it down like it was great it was fun seeing like like his take on that and knowing that it's gotta be true it's i mean it yeah if he beats connor though he'll get a lot of shine from that sure but i don't know if he'll get the shine in russia as much as he'll get the shine from like people like us right like yeah like connor said it well in that press conference he He's like, you're in the big leagues now. You're with the big dogs.
Starting point is 00:20:28 If he beats Connor, then he legitimizes himself, and maybe his 26-0 record isn't quite so padded as I think it is, and maybe his pedigree rises exponentially. Joe Sonnen said it well. He was like, a lot of people think that if you beat that guy, suddenly you get all that guy's attention and that is not what happens. You beat Chael Sonnen,
Starting point is 00:20:51 you don't become the new gangster from West Lynn. That's still him. You just get maybe a little bump. His fans have heard of you now and that's what Khabib will get. He'll get a little bump after he beats Conor. And wonder what happens to Conor's career how much does it deflate um it won't deflate at all as far as the money he makes in the in the people he draws I the question will be what he does next like he signed a six fight deal but that's not I mean I'm sure
Starting point is 00:21:19 you saw Chael say it you know that's not him saying I'm gonna fight six more fights that's the UFC locking him in so he's not gonna start up connor promotion productions and like make his own thing or go off to bellator or whatever the fuck like he's gonna be a ufc man for the rest of his career how many more fights does he does he fight what win lose or draw this uh on saturday night to paint the most negative picture i can if he loses againsthabib, he's lost three out of his last four fights. You know... You think he's got the star power to pull him forward anyway? He'll have lost to Nate, beat to Nate. Let's do it this way. Lost to Nate,
Starting point is 00:21:53 beat to Nate. Lost to Mayweather, lost to Khabib. I count the Mayweather fight as a win. No, nobody's counting Mayweather. And most people count it as a win because... I prefaced it the most negative way I can. You can't really count it as a win given that he lost.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And the interesting thing about his loss to Nate is the way the first fight came about with them trying to save a card and with no preparation for a guy that looks like Nate. And then Conor's like, all right, well, let me just get ready for you then,ate and we'll do it again and he he beats nate and then we'll see what happens this fight i this is huge this is huge for both their careers i think uh i think that connor's
Starting point is 00:22:36 going to make more money on this fight than he's ever made in a ufc event uh i bet he's get huge points his liquor is really taken off i see it all over the – I watch a lot of liquor review channels on YouTube. Everybody's reviewing Proper 12. Everybody's sipping on some Proper 12 and giving their opinions on it. We should drink that for our next drinking episode. I saw that – I saw some Conor McGregor drink. I saw that one of the things on the bottle is I guess he donates like a pretty large percentage of every bottle's sale to first responders, which is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:23:07 What do you mix with Coke? Rum. It's not rum. It's whiskey. Whiskey Coke is not a thing. Whiskey Coke, yeah, that's a thing. Yeah, you can mix everything with Coke. Yeah, Whiskey Coke and Rum and Coke are the two most popular. Yeah, you can do Rum and Coke with
Starting point is 00:23:21 Conor McGregor's brand. You'd be surprised. It tastes a lot more like whiskey than it does coke when you mix whiskey and coke. You just have more to drink. Yeah, but Woody is going to not pour it like a bartender. He's going to be like, all right, shot and a half of whiskey, and guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh-guh- 11 12th a can of soda why do bartenders make it so whiskey heavy because that's because you're because they want you like they want you to know like you're not getting hosed because if you get like a bunch of weak drinks you're gonna be like god damn it i'm paying you know eight nine dollars
Starting point is 00:23:56 for these and i'm getting nothing because like yeah you're not paying for the flavor you're paying for the alcohol in a social situation yeah for sure yeah you definitely want a strong drink i've never been like ah this drink's too strong it's like hey he's not fucking us over boys yeah get a double yeah if i was a bartender that's how i'd make it because i work for tips you and i were on the same team that owner over there fuck him it's you and me we're the team here that i would make that really well known. Yeah. Be one of those bartenders who's like doing shots with your customers all night, but you're always giving yourself like quarter shot and giving them nice fat ones.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So at the end of the night, they're like, man, that guy was cool. Let me give him another $60. In the drinking episode, they said I wasn't taking full-sized shots. I didn't realize shot glasses came in different sizes I thought a shot was a I could see that it was taller and thinner but I just assumed it balanced out I only knew there were regular shots and then double shots but I guess there's a smaller one too I don't know they said on the subreddit that I was taking smaller shots which certainly wasn't by design I it's not the kind of thing i know yeah it's not in your wheelhouse so it looked like a shot glass so yeah they were clearly shot glasses i maybe i'll google it and see if they're right i don't know why i just trusted them i mean it's on the internet it's
Starting point is 00:25:16 clearly true yeah there's a few different sizes there's a you know one ounce two ounce two and a quarter ounce like if you just look at various shot glasses, it doesn't matter. Conor's already in Vegas. He's acclimating to the climate, I suppose. Yeah, it's two weeks. Does that sound right to you? August 6th? Just under two weeks now.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah, it's October 6th. Very excited. Very excited for the fight. I've been talking about it to everybody I know, even people who have no inkling. I like it better if someone has no idea what's going on. Like, well, let me tell you who Conor McGregor is. And they're like, oh, that sounds awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Now let me tell you who fucking Khabib Nurmagomedov is. At age seven, he began wrestling bears. Which is true. Have you ever seen that video, Taylorlor of him wrestling a bear as a child yeah we watched that one and no wonder he's so good he's learned that a loss means death so that's why he never lost a round that's what's one of the interesting little things about habib he's never lost a round in professional why are you so confident in Conor over him then?
Starting point is 00:26:27 I don't think he's ever fought anyone as good as Conor, not nearly as good as Conor. Dos Anjos and Michael Johnson were probably his most difficult opponents. In the UFC, I don't know how many fights he's had, like seven, eight, something like that. So his other 16 or 17 fights are amateur fights. And I don't know who any of those people are not that i'm an expert or anything but i don't know any of those people are or if they
Starting point is 00:26:51 were legitimate bouts i don't know i don't know what the deal is but i know that conor mcgregor has time and time again uh beaten the best of the best um like if you if you look at the list of people that he's got he's beaten in the ufc they're all the best of the best they If you look at the list of people that he's beaten in the UFC, they're all the best of the best. They're the world beaters. They're the people who were champion for not two or three years in a row, but five and ten years in a row.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They often had skill sets that were believed to be his kryptonite. And still, when he finally hit them, it was game over. And he's been taken down and he's not great on the ground especially off his back but but there's a round system here it's not a 25 minute long fight at the end of the round they're like all right stand back up and then they fucking reset again and when i watched habib's last fight against a real estate selling ranked number 11 in the world fella,
Starting point is 00:27:45 I noticed that he didn't get a lot of his takedowns. He got like 30% of them or something like that. And when he did get the guy to the ground, didn't do a ton of damage. The guy got right back up at the end of the round and kept going. Al Aliquinta was a college wrestler. Conor McGregor is from a country that doesn't even have wrestling. And that real estate salesman thing is an insult that connor likes to use i i it uh it's true ala well yeah i guess but he's barely true um you will buy this house he he was in a dispute with the ufc he said
Starting point is 00:28:22 fuck it i'll just stop doing this. I'll sell real estate instead. He realized he makes a lot more money fighting, and then there he is. So that's the truth behind it. Conor, yeah, they don't even have wrestling in Ireland. That's not like a thing. He doesn't grow up wrestling or anything. Al Aquinta did. And then next to that, Khabib decided he was going to strike with this guy. He didn't really bring his A game
Starting point is 00:28:45 because he could beat the guy with one hand. His championship fight was probably not the best time to be like, eh, we'll see what happens and mess around. I don't buy that. I don't buy that Habib was just like, I wasn't trying. He wanted to make a point. I wasn't trying tonight.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yes, it was with the championship, and one shot could have knocked me unconscious, and that would have been my career over and this is what I fought for for my entire life, but I wasn't really trying as hard as I could. Not a good game plan, but he walked away with the belt and made his point. Well, let's hope he brings a good game plan
Starting point is 00:29:15 when he fights the greatest striker that's ever been in that division. Connor seems to realize he's in for a fight. Connor, it's my impression of it. He's bringing his A game. He's doing everything he has. Khabib is telling Daniel Cormier, it'll be easy, not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:29:32 This guy's not a problem for me. And it's like, you better realize Connor's good at fighting. That's kind of what he's known for. We'll see. Yeah, I definitely like Connor in the fight. I think he's gonna knock khabib fucking unconscious and i'm going to i'm gonna scream so loud the neighbors will hear me well there's not a lot of money to be made against by betting against connor but i'm giving it a try
Starting point is 00:29:54 anyway five dollars says khabib wins absolutely i did win one what did i What was I right about? We just did a bit. Oh, I don't recall what the most recent one was. Oh, what was... It was definitely a UFC fight. Yeah. Oh, it was Cody Garbrandt losing to TJ Dillashaw. Yeah, that was it. There's rumors that TJ may be fighting on that Madison Square Garden card that no one knows who's going to be the headliner for.
Starting point is 00:30:28 The Poirier-Nate Diaz card, right? They're going to be the co-main event, but no one really knows who the main event's going to be. It might be TJ coming in and fighting someone. Or it could be Jon Jones, and they just don't want to announce it yet. They don't want to take any shine off of the Conor fight. Yeah. So Jon Jones back early for snitching. I look forward to it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Fucking great. He is such a heel. He is such a heel. I want DC to beat the crap out of him. So does DC. I want Jon Jones to come back without the benefit of steroids, looking like he does between camps, all fat and soft and round. And then DC, also fat and soft and round, but my guy, who wins. That would be great.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I hope that Jon Jones shows up and has terrible diarrhea. Like, really rough. And he gets knocked out and he shits his pants. Dude, that's not that uncommon. Daniel Cormier's going to retire. He'll retire after he beats Brock, I would think, because he's
Starting point is 00:31:43 afraid. He's afraid of doing it again. He's got to be. There's no afraid. He's afraid of doing it again. He's got to be. There's no way. He's afraid of Jason Brock? No, he's not afraid of Brock. He's afraid of John Jones. He thinks Brock is an easy fight. That's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He's underestimating Brock Lesnar. DC thinks he can beat that guy easily. Really? He seems to. I mean, I'm sure his techniques is way better. It seems like it would be hard to imagine someone. brock just seems so strong is there anybody stronger than him in that division is there anybody fucking close who has hands the size of a catcher's not the hands i think my technique's better than shaquille o'neal's and that guy would whoop my ass you know
Starting point is 00:32:19 size matters and you're throwing a punch like having those big meat hooks on there like he's gonna like i don't know there's just something about that guy's build where you're like this is a genetic thing like if you check his neanderthal ancestry like yeah it's definitely a science thing there's a little bit of science helping out but they just capitalized on existing neanderthal ancestry you know he's even got a little bit of a brow ridge. Like, if you tested all of us, like, we're all white, and so we've got some Neanderthal in us, but I bet his is
Starting point is 00:32:51 like triple up on that. He was the last one. He's like 10% Neanderthal. He's a monster of a man. He's not a normal human being. His great-great-grandfather, not standing fully upright. No, not yet. Why don't you have any children?
Starting point is 00:33:06 Not compatible with you two legs. And he shuffles away on his knuckles. At full speeds, Brock can get going 24 miles an hour on all fours. Notice as he protects his harem of WWE cardholders. Yeah, I think Cormier is scared i i think he would have to be how could you not be afraid of that man after what he's done to you already and maybe if he's not afraid of the physical pain but he's got to be afraid of the of the damage to his legacy that that he might incur because like dc i i don't know what dc's
Starting point is 00:33:43 record is all time but i know that i've never i've only seen him lose twice and both times was brock lesnar i mean um john jones i think that's it he was undefeated at heavyweight still is now he's the heavyweight champ he was he's undefeated at light heavyweight except for john jones and uh i feel like john if he fights jones not on steroids and whoops him, he's the best light heavyweight of all time. No question. It's Daniel Cormier.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And Jon Jones would have a big old asterisk, cheated his way to some wins. It would definitely change things a little bit, for sure. You want to talk about a lack of confidence? A fighter who no longer has steroids coursing through his veins? That's a guy with low confidence. He'll still be on something. Come on. He's going to be on a little something.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I don't know. We'll see. I think Jon Jones with no steroids, sixth best light heavyweight. I wish Cormier would get popped for fucking roids. Cormier passes the eye test, man. That guy sails through that. That guy doesn't even suspect him. They're like, all right, Jones, give us your pee,
Starting point is 00:34:52 and Cormier, go home. Don't eat too much fast food on the way. I'm watching a couple Brock Lesnar highlights, just no sound or anything, but so many of the times he's mounting these people, and they have to change cameras because they can't see through his giant back. He's hiding in another enormous man behind his back. And they have to be like, all right, the Brock back effect, camera four.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And they have to switch it around. And he doesn't seem to have the right, like, maybe hammer fisting really is just that, and that's all the technique you need. I agree. But it seems like he's just smashing the shit out of people like an ape. And it seems to work. You see a feeling of panic in the person on the ground. I saw this big Asian guy tap out from getting head punched.
Starting point is 00:35:41 The guy's still cogent, but he's like, I'm getting dumber by the second and he's just trying to tap. I wish he'd use both hands like an actual gorilla. He's brocking out! He's brocking out! He's in a state of
Starting point is 00:36:02 brockamania. Nothing can hurt him. All those vitamins coursing through his veins. They use two refs for his fight because one couldn't possibly pull him off of his opponent if he goes into Brock mode. What a maniac. They're not viewers. Brock is well-trained. This man's in no danger. And they say that DC is an easy win for him. Yeah, maybe it is. I need to see it first.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I don't know. I've seen easy wins before that don't go the way you expect. Who's the best person that Brock has beaten? The best person Brock has beaten. Frank Mir? Overeem? No, no. Overeem whooped him. Maybe
Starting point is 00:36:48 Frank Muir. Probably Frank Muir, yeah. Keith Haring. Beat old Captain America. Randy Couture. Yeah, he's not even heavyweight. He was so old though, you know. Wasn't he like in his 50s at that time? Something. He was like a medical miracle
Starting point is 00:37:05 yeah yeah i mean he was he was all roided up you know rocks running like a gorilla on his knuckles and he's got two tennis balls and his walker the fucking ring he sits in that like assist up the stairs that old people do and press the button dude i did a uh an siv course this weekend for people who don't know it's like a paramotor paraglider really like acrobatics and disaster recovery thing the class went big there were like nine reserve parachutes thrown over three days they were just getting all wrapped up one there was a girl there she was there with her guy and uh she's in what's called an auto rotation so about a third of the wing was trapped inside the lines so the wing is spinning sideways and she's worried she's gonna black out so she takes her reserve and she throws it
Starting point is 00:37:55 while she's spinning so the reserve lines wrap around her neck twice and then it go then it starts to deploy and she's drifting down towards the lake being hung as she goes and she's like man i really hope that i uh don't die that i hit the water soon because i can't breathe and i'm being hung and uh it was just so badass my classmates were great the stuff we did was cool i went big uh learned Learned some new moves, new tricks I'm going to bring home with me. Are you certified to do more stuff now? Or is this a training course? You don't get certified in tricks, I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:32 But there were three things I wanted to work on. Two of them I learned. And one of them I learned I should only do over water with a boat to get me. And there was one point in my memory. Is this a move that you had already been doing, though? No. Where they're like, now don't you ever do this alone without a boat to catch you.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And you're like, yeah, never ever, guys. I don't do this routinely. There's something called a helico. It's probably the most difficult move. And the wing stays above you and you just float down. It's pretty cool to look at. Anyway, it's really prone to... I got it wrapped up in what they call a stall ball.
Starting point is 00:39:08 So the wing is just in this configuration that I couldn't explain. It's folded up in a mess. And I'm getting ready to throw my reserve. The instructor is like, all right, Woody, I think you need your reserve on this. I had enough altitude. I wasn't panicked. And he's like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You might be able to fix it. So I went back to it, tried to undo it and did. And, uh, when I, when I finally got the wing expanded, I had twisted, like, you know, on a swing set, you can twirl around. I'd done that three or four times. So I just undid that and flew away and tore the wing, tore a two foot hole in the wing. We just duct taped it and I used it the rest of the weekend. Uh uh it was super cool super cool so i'm pretty excited about it i got new moves new new experiences saw a whole bunch of reserves tossed and it was a i want to do it again nice do you have another event scheduled as of now the last one of the year is in october uh i don't even have a wing at this point it's
Starting point is 00:40:03 out for repairs the you know the duct tape is not a permanent solution. So that's where we are. Good times. I was very excited. Did you guys see that it all seems to have finally concluded today, the Bill Cosby
Starting point is 00:40:20 shit? Oh, what'd he get? Yeah, they said at least three, but up to 10 years in a state prison hmm yeah that's kind of a life sentence i suppose for him three yeah yeah it said uh at least three up to 10 i think i feel like here's a link just to the wikipedia of that specific case there was more than that that picture of him with the fucked up eyes, that's from 2011. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:40:50 He's aged like a president since then. And he was already an old man. But yeah, it says it was a civil suit against Andrea Constand. It was filed in March 05 and was resolved with undisclosed cash settlement in November 2006. It was later revealed that the amount paid to Constand was $3.38 million. The case was filed by her, a former college and Canadian basketball team player.
Starting point is 00:41:13 December 30, 2015, however, Cosby was charged with three second-degree felony counts of aggravated indecent assault as a result of the accusations made by Constand. And a few more details, and then now he's sentenced to three to ten years in prison upon release he must register as a sexually violent predator for the rest of his life he i didn't realize he was 81 i thought he'd be in his 70s i knew he was old but 81 yeah this is a life sentence at 81 maybe i mean is he still rich yeah i. Oh, yeah, he's still rich. A trial can drain even rich people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 He paid that woman $3.4 million almost 10 years ago. For Bill Cosby, $3 million is probably whatever. He might have paid $22 million for the attorneys, though. He's worth $400 million. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:07 That's the celebrity net worth thing yeah i consider that 80 bullshit but even if it's off by like a factor of 10 and he's worth 40 million then he's so rich that he's fine yeah yeah time so he's not gonna be okay he's 81 and and you know this amount of stress on a guy that old like he's not going to be okay. He's 81. And, and you know, this amount of stress on a guy that old, like he's not going to last much longer. He'll be dead soon. I would imagine, you know, like this is a lot of stress,
Starting point is 00:42:33 like being in court, in and out of court, having stuff hanging over your head for especially a guy that age. He does have civil suits coming. So that could take a, take a real chunk. Yeah. That could take hundreds of millions off of them. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I didn't know they were allowed to take settlements and then go back again later. But I guess it was an undisclosed settlement. That means it was just money given, right? Like a buy-off? Does he have kids? Yeah. Little Caspies.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, he's got five kids. I was going to say, at this point, they're just taking money from his kids, right? He's going to have more than he can spend. How much do ramen noodles really cost? Yeah. Is he going to blow his money on toothpaste?
Starting point is 00:43:26 You know what's funny? like he's gonna be really popular in prison like he's big enough that nobody's gonna be like oh uh fucking uh Cosby you know this rapist let's rape him in the showers no it's gonna be like
Starting point is 00:43:42 man Bill Cosby I watched you growing up all the time and he's gonna be like, man, Bill Cosby, I watched you growing up all the time. And he's going to be like, and I would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those damn women. I suppose I could get my raping done in here if I rolled with the right crowd. We'll see. We'll see. What if he turns out to be like a prolific prison rapist yes he's gotten older i'm looking at this picture he looks a lot like a ninja turtle now
Starting point is 00:44:11 he looks like he looks like the black ninja turtle oh he does well it's it's the way his uh his mouth is you know he's got like those turtle turtle lips like uh frank. Remember Hey It's Franklin? Hey it's Franklin. Yeah, yeah. Come over to my house or some shit. He looks pretty good for 81.
Starting point is 00:44:37 He might live until 95. But that's a picture from 2011. Let me see the one that I'm looking on. On the Wikipedia. I'm using an article that says it's real current because it just talked about how much he got three to ten years.
Starting point is 00:44:53 No, this picture's from today. I think he looks good for anyone. Do you think many people are still on his side? No. No.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Oh yes, family probably. And I think, to be fair, Do you think many people are still on his side? No. Like his family and stuff? Oh, yes, family probably. And I think, to be fair, I bet there's a group of African Americans who also are still on OJ's side for some reason who are like, Dr. Cosby wouldn't do that. Them bitches is lying. All alien. It's a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Dr. Cosby, what do you think this is going to... I don't watch cable TV, but does the Cosby show still air? They probably pulled the reruns. It used to run before all this happened. Yeah, it was absolutely running on TV land, Nick at Night and all that shit. Dude, they should not pull the reruns of the Cosby show. That was a wholesome show. Just because he ended up being a creep
Starting point is 00:45:46 doesn't mean the show wasn't good. And what you're really doing there is saying to all the people who are getting syndication money for having spent so much time on that show, like, nope, fuck you, sorry. Ah, they don't get that. The guy who ran the show.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah, they do. Yeah, the main actors, they get syndication money. Not unless they had a contract that specifically laid it out. They don't just get it for being in there. Like, Jason Alexander ain't getting Noah Seinfeld money. Not unless they had a contract that specifically laid it out. They don't just get it for being in there. Jason Alexander ain't getting Noah Seinfeld money. Yeah, they make a ton of money every year. Jason Alexander
Starting point is 00:46:12 doesn't. Yeah, the entire cast does. Absolutely not. Where are you getting your facts, Taylor? Because I get mine from Jason Alexander. Yeah, me too. Let's see. Yeah, Julian... If he said it, then you're probably you're the only people who got syndication oh it was friends friends are the people who who banded together to like get 10 million dollars a
Starting point is 00:46:32 year each that was okay you're right yeah only larry jason alexander and julia louis dreyfus no she's fine she's she's already an heiress to billions of dollars well what about uh that wasn't true that that that was an urban legend. I'm not sure. I just... No, it's a thing. There was some caveat to it, but her dad's definitely hyper-wealthy. But yeah, only Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David get that crazy money.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Larry David's worth over half a billion dollars. Yeah, Gerard Luis Dreyfus, her father,'s worth over half a billion dollars. Yeah, Gerard Luis Dreyfus, her father is worth 3.4 billion. Yeah, that's pretty outstanding. I've been watching Curb Your Enthusiasm for the second time, all of it, recently. I love
Starting point is 00:47:17 that fucking show. Larry David's so funny. It's so uncomfortable. So uncomfortable. It's like if George Costanza had his own show and he was a 60-year-old man. It's great. It's great. He's always getting himself into the most awful, precarious social situations and just being a real piece of shit. But he plays himself.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So he's pitching a show to the HBO executives, and they had gotten into a a mix up earlier in the show where they had accidentally been given each other's Chinese food. The HBO exec took some of the shrimp out of Larry's shrimp lo mein. And he brings it up in the meeting over when they're pitching a TV show. He's like, did you enjoy my shrimp the other night? I know you took my shrimp. I've seen that one.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Seven of my shrimp. I know you did. And he's like, you get the fuck out of here with your $ million dollars you cheap son of a bitch he's so like he said he said that uh not maybe not he said that seinfeld one of them said that george was based on him somewhat like just that level of neuroticism and like like being disconnected with reality like Jerry, you know, she's talking to me too quietly or like I'm doing the opposite or just these weird half half cracked. A lot of the storylines come straight from his life. The whole like getting caught eating the the the dessert out of the trash that happened to Larry David. A lot of the more embarrassing things happened to larry david it's it's it's pretty great
Starting point is 00:48:47 larry david tried to play jason alexander's role and he did okay but he wasn't jason alexander who no one is jason alexander he i i can't even pick a favorite character in seinfeld it's so good like ironically jerry would probably be on the bottom of the list of the four. I think Kramer wins, and then George, and then Elaine. But I don't know. Elaine's so good, too. Kramer's my bottom. Really? Yeah, he was never my guy.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Just physical comedy gets me. That's not my kind of comedy. I get it. You busted the door every time. Oh, my God. You can't just tell the same joke every week. But there he is. I watched the one recently where they figure out his first name's Cosmo.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yep. And they all start giving him shit. Cosmo. And it takes him in such Kramer fashion of letting everything roll off his back. There's not even a five minute part of the show where he's all mad. He comes in and he's like, I am Cosmo like from now on i'm cosmo like you will call like they're all little idiosyncratic things are so good speaking of good shows there's a new one on netflix that i don't think you guys have brought up it's called maniac have you seen it or heard about it i'll i'll link it it's got
Starting point is 00:50:01 jonah hill and ah that's out stone in it and it's out i watched i watched a couple episodes yesterday evening and this isn't like a spoiler or anything because this is all revealed very quickly i'm barely into the show at all but it's about like jonah hill who again this isn't giving anything away it's apparent immediately he has severe mental issues like psychosis things like that and uh is like struggling with it deeply and he is trying to get into these medical studies these like psychiatric studies where they're like hey we'll pay you x y and z if you let us do this experiment on you and it's basically about him and emma stone being in the same class of one of these psychological experiment things,
Starting point is 00:50:45 and the pill they give you causes you to have these very vivid kind of re... Not flashbacks, but force you to re-watch a day of your life. So it's like you're there, but you can't be like, Oh, I realize this is a dream. Yeah, I'm going to say this to them instead on this terrible day because I know this would be the last thing I would say to them before they had a heart attack or something. They have to sit there in that day and go through the whole really painful day.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And that's where I am right now. They're still explaining the value of it. There's like a series of three pills you have to take for the regiment, and they just took the first one in the most recent episode I watched you guys will like it though that's interesting because i've never heard anything like 99 of shows there's something like it like oh yeah like it's i've never heard a premise like this at all matrix maybe kind of there's a pill that opens your eyes but this is different yeah yeah it's definitely definitely different like i it's still so like right here it says it's a dark comedy which i'm so early in it that i can't even
Starting point is 00:51:52 tell yet like there are some like you know uncomfortable moments where like jonah hill's clearly losing his mind and it is kind of a dark comedy thing but really it seems just as much sci fi as anything which is kind of like which is why I think you two would both like it a lot. Jonah Hill's so thin. He's lost so much fucking weight. It's absurd. He looks weird. He's one of those people who got so, so fat for so long that even at a young age, after losing all the weight, he's got that thin of neck skin.
Starting point is 00:52:21 You know what I mean? Yeah. You don't ever see the Adam's apple anymore. It's just a stretching of skin from there and it makes he was huge like three years ago like he gained all that weight for war um war dogs or dogs of war whatever that movie was where he was like a gun runner he was massive in that movie and then he like dropped it all again it's very impressive yeah he looks uh i don't know how much he weighs or how much weight he lost but it looks like he lost a hundred pounds he's like the antithesis of christian bale or christian bale like gets down He looks, I don't know how much he weighs or how much weight he lost, but it looks like he lost 100 pounds.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He's like the antithesis of Christian Bale, where Christian Bale gets down to emaciated for the machinist. And then they're like, how did he put on 60 pounds of muscle in nine months to play Batman? They're like, well, I wonder how he did that. I wonder, 60 pounds of muscle in nine months, that doesn't add up. And then Jonah Hill, it's like, man, look at how impressive it is that he got really, really fat again. What did he eat? Man, the second he's, everything.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I just had a fettuccine Alfredo every day, all day, and here I am. He's a great actor, though. I really like Jonah Hill as an actor. He's really good in this. He has you 100... I don't know what it is about his eyes, but he does a very good job of doing the crazy person staring through you
Starting point is 00:53:36 kind of look instead of staring at you kind of look. It's really good. You guys should check it out. I'm enjoying it. He's had a cool career so far. I liked him in Wolf of Wall Street. I think I liked him more than Leo. And I liked him in Moneyball. Probably more than Brad Pitt.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I totally agree with you about Moneyball there. Everyone had recommended that movie and I only saw it about a year ago. But he stole the show with that. Yeah, I watched it on a plane. I wasn't a huge fan. I like Wolf of Wall Street a ton. I really enjoyed that
Starting point is 00:54:05 i like to like leo leonard caviar is a pain in the ass to watch this is like the the quaalude scene that took i don't know an hour and a half maybe of crawling to his car oh my fucking god i'm so bored like i thought that was funny because he didn't know wasn't that the first time he took quaaludes where he was like what are these? And then he took them. He had taken way too many. Yeah, he had taken some super Quaaludes or something, or he had taken way too many or something like that, and they all kicked in. Now this is way too many
Starting point is 00:54:35 Quaaludes. I don't know, you first said that would knock that bitch out for days. And I think he had to get home for some reason, like there was a phone call or a crisis or something. It was boring boring it was great so good I don't know maybe I haven't seen
Starting point is 00:54:53 Leonardo DiCaprio movie in a little while but I just find him hugely overrated you and Wings of Redemption him too he used to hate on him because the girls liked him yeah Wings had a thing withonard caprio where he'd be like fuck that guy he's a bitch and then he realized like i'm really only saying that because all the girls think he's so cute and he wished that he was in his position i'm saying it because he has long dull parts in
Starting point is 00:55:21 his movies that he just stretches out that everyone thinks are brilliant except me. I mean, he's not directing the movies. He's doing what the director wants him to do. I love him. I think he's definitely top three actors that exist. I'd have to think about it. I mean, you know way more about actors than I do. Anyway, that's interesting because I know Daniel Day-Lewis is your number one.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Number one. And if he's your number two or three, who else would you put up there with him? He's dead, but Philip Seymour Hoffman. I didn't appreciate him until he was gone. Very strong. That's a good call. Yeah, he was great. And Capote, his voice and cadence in that is like so because you know what that guy
Starting point is 00:56:06 sounded like right like the really weird talking down high pitch thing like this like he gets it like all those little like upticks and cadence change it does perfectly but uh leo i think he's good in most stuff like uh shutter island everybody about how good he was in uh inception but i don't think he was that great in inception like it was that movie is so fucking overrated like if you watch that again and you're still then shutter island i don't know that i saw shutter island oh my you know you know what i'm talking about kyle you've seen shutter island yeah of course yeah i might I might need to see that. Didn't you think he was great in that?
Starting point is 00:56:47 I thought he was incredible in that. And the whole journey that he's going through and being a mentally ill person who's not sure if they're mentally ill or not. And then coming to the whole thing. I don't want to spoil it too much. But incredible movie. I like all of his shit. Incredible movie. I like all of his shit.
Starting point is 00:57:06 From What's Eating Gilbert Grape to Django Unchained to fucking the one he won the Oscar for. The name's escaping me right now. Was that Revenant? Yeah, The Revenant. Yeah, I fucking loved The Revenant. That was so good. Did he win his Oscar for The Revenant? I think he did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:23 That's interesting because I wouldn't even put Yeah. It's interesting. Cause like, I wouldn't even put that in his top movies. I agree. I thought he was way better in shutter Island than that. The Revenant had a very small plot that they stretched out for like three hours of just him, you know, crawling along the ice, crawling along the river,
Starting point is 00:57:41 trying to get warm, trying to head back. You know, it's know it's it's the story of a guy who got attacked by a bear and then made his way back to camp yeah that's oh i can't believe you call you phrase it that way he crawled 90 miles or something yawn yeah back in the day you could like like if i were whatever the fuck that character's name was, and I made it back, Hugh Glass, or Hugh Glass, I would have, I would have, even if I had, you know, sauntered a hundred yards, they only see me coming out of the woods. I can make up whatever tall tale I want.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Why are you so tattered? Hey, you got money for clothes? No, I've fought a fucking bear. are you so tattered? Hey, you got money for clothes? Nah, I've fought a fucking bear. Do you have any witnesses? That guy. Yeah, everyone saw it! There's that website, like, Badass of the Day or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:37 There's a whole thing on Hugh Glass on there. I fucking love that shit. It was beautiful to look at. It was just every minute of that movie just this everything on the screen the cinematography was incredible like like that opening scene where the indians are raiding the fur trapping camp and the arrows are zipping by the camera as they like wade through the water carrying fucking beaver pelts and the indians are coming after the shit was great i love that that was pretty intense yeah i'm having a hard time time picking a third favorite actor.
Starting point is 00:59:05 A lot of them are so old that they're not really acting anymore. I really love Jack Nicholson and Dustin Hoffman for example, but when the fuck have they done anything? I don't know if they're gonna do anything ever again. I think Robert De Niro might...
Starting point is 00:59:21 Robert De Niro's made so many stinkers over the last 20 years or something like that it's hard to include him in there who's the other mob one Joe Pesci Ray Liotta good and good but that's not who I'm thinking of he once played a blind that's who I'm thinking of
Starting point is 00:59:38 yeah also made a ton of stinkers yeah he made a ton of terrible movies but like who do you think the most overrated actors are that people seem to think are good like mine in that regard is is uh de niro like i don't think de niro's that good at all like in taxi driver he was good but overall he's just not that good he's he's every single gangster movie he's in with joe pesci
Starting point is 01:00:06 joe pesci beats the shit out of him as far as acting goes like and making you believe the character like he's you know pesci doesn't get that same attention as deniro and he totally deserves it well like he plays more bit parts i like pesousin Vinny. Yeah, that's hysterical. With Marissa Tomei, I think. Yeah, she was good too. She won the Oscar for that. All those people are getting their time in the sun again. And here's my thoughts on De Niro.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I feel like he just gets lazy. I feel like he just phones it in and hasn't really tried for like 15 or 20 years. There's like a dozen movies that you've never even heard of.'re so bad like he almost makes like b movies now but scorsese is making the irishman right for netflix and we've talked about it before but it's that massive massive budget gangster movie with pesci and de niro and all those guys that you know scorsese is making you got to imagine that he's gonna bring his a game like i feel like he could redeem himself big time. Black guy, snakes on a plane, says motherfucker a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Samuel L. Jackson? Yeah. Master of phoning it in. That guy will give half effort on a lot of films. And I... You just never know what you're going to get with him. I feel like he doesn't give a shit about whatever he's working on. He just splatters it out there.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Some's good, some's bad. I liked him in The Hitman's Bodyguard. I thought that was, it was an action comedy. And Chiz and I have discussed this. He's like, did it have enough action or enough comedy for an action comedy? And I kind of agree with him there, but I still enjoyed it. It was still fine. It was like a movie, a plane movie or something like that.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It was entertaining and whatnot, but not a hell of a film. Samuel L. Jackson is the only A-list movie star that I think if I spent 40 minutes making a fake production company, I could get him to come to St. Louis to make a film. If he pays his rate, he will come. He never says no. He's like, leave your number after the beep. Louis to make a film. He never says no. He's like, leave your number after the beep. It will be a yes.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Hey, we're doing a docudrama about a hammer murderer here in St. Louis. Do you have $3 million? As far as you know, Mr. Jackson. See you Monday. I got four days for the shoot before I do Zootopia 6! Yeah, if you pay
Starting point is 01:02:29 him his rate, he doesn't care about any of the other stuff. And who could blame him, right? It doesn't seem like doing a shitty movie has any effect on his career trajectory, right? Like, he's in the Avengers movies, he's got his role cemented in those. He'll be in Marvel movies as long as he's alive. avengers movies he's got his role cemented in those he'll be in marvel
Starting point is 01:02:46 movies as long as he is he's alive watch he'll never stop they're never replacing that character they'll have a new iron man it'll still be sam jackson running fucking shield yep and good for him like he's one of those like big actors that i feel like if you like walked up to him and were like, you know what, Sam, you're just not a good actor. He'd be like, yeah, I know. Oh, come on. He's a good actor. He just doesn't always give it all he's got. And he doesn't always have a lot to work with, right? Like if he's doing one of these,
Starting point is 01:03:16 he's doing a movie like Snakes on the Plane. I mean, you should know from the title, the writing might not be that great here. Probably not. But he can definitely put in an amazing performance. Look at Django or going all the way back to Pulp Fiction and everything in between. He's done a lot
Starting point is 01:03:34 of good stuff. His Stern interview was really good. Yep. You guys want to call it a wrap? Yeah. You want to play some Monopoly later, perhaps? 2-14.

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