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up the video painkiller nearly episode 223 kyle so so this show's not sponsored
but this weekend um was the big fight right this this past weekend yeah
tito ortiz three titans in their prime this is the biggest fight of 1996 it absolutely is
it absolutely it's the biggest fight of 1996. It absolutely is.
It's the biggest fight of 2008 or something,
which is probably the last time they fought or something like that.
Chuck was a mere 45.
Whatever he is now.
In case you don't know, Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell have fought twice before.
I want to say Chuck won both of those. Yeah, so Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell were teammates
and training partners. And Tito Ortiz was the big guy, right? He was the champion. He was the man,
etc. And he kind of dodged fights, like things that, fights where he thought he might lose,
he skipped them. Meanwhile, Chuck Liddell would fight him, right? So Chuck Liddell is like the
number one contender, and he's just gatekeeping everyone away so tito so chuck i'm sorry yeah so tito doesn't have to fight these guys they they're
they're like practically earned a title shot and then chuck liddell takes it from him but he won't
fight chuck and uh chuck's like waiting and waiting and waiting and he's keep getting dodged
and at this point they stop being friends you know like chuck hates this guy more than anyone else around.
He just doesn't like him.
And they become actual.
How long ago is this period?
You're talking 15 years.
Yeah, 12.
15 years ago.
So their last fight was 12 years ago.
I'm going to guess the gap between their fights was about two years.
So like when YouTube was kicking off.
Yeah.
Turn of the last century.
Like 12 and 14 years ago.
And Chuck Liddell beat Tito Ortiz, and then they got a rematch,
and Chuck Liddell beat him again.
I think he knocked him out both times.
And Chuck was just the man.
He was the Iceman.
He was just knocking out everybody and eye-poking.
And eye-poking.
I just looked them both up to get a feel for their age.
Even though they're only five years apart, with Liddell being 48 and Ortiz being 43,
that's a way bigger five years than that five-year difference 12 years ago.
Like, 43 to 48 is way different than 33 to 38.
There's a different kind of 48, too.
It's the roughest 48 you could possibly imagine.
Chuck's brain has been rattled so many times. And this isn't actual science, but it's something that
I've come to believe. Your brain floats around. There's like this liquid pocket between your
brain and your skull. And I believe that that gets diminished over time due to a lot of things. And
one of them is repeated abuse to it and the other
is age and another could be things like lowered testosterone or something about body chemistry but
i believe that the more you get hit in the head the more susceptible you susceptible you are
to getting hit in the head that's happened to chuck that so everything kyle said i agree with
plus chuck liddell is known to like all the drugs i don't know which drugs he doesn't do
there have to be a few but that can't be good he's a high mileage 48 and i believe he's like
a week away from 49 can someone confirm that i could usually how the guy looks it up i he's a
he's a he's been known as a severe alcoholic um showing up to do interviews just to save it.
Yes, yes.
He would show up to interviews, and he would be incoherent.
Like, you wouldn't be able to understand a lot of his words.
They'd be slurring together so badly.
Was it like an assumed thing that it was alcoholism?
Or it was like, oh, he's drinking some and his brain damage.
Well, I've heard him like oh he's drinking some and his brain damage it well i've heard him
speak when he's not drunk and while he's he's no socrates or anything he's not very eloquent
you know he's like he is no orator but um but but still he he how could he how could he live
maintain a life as an alcoholic while he's fighting for a living well this is but this
is after the fighting mostly this is like the last even during yeah and during his downfall he did drugs he'd be interviewed he said
he was on um cold medicine robo tripping his way into the ring uh well it was it was to like good
morning america and stuff like did he was so i'm not uh a guy who can like look at someone's
characteristics and tell you like oh that's what pot, oh, that's what pot does to you.
That's what Coke does to you or whatever.
But I can tell you he was fucked.
You know?
I've had cold medicine.
Doesn't do that to me.
He could barely speak or maintain a conversation.
It was like he was on Ambien and he had gotten 30 minutes of sleep and then you roused him out of bed, threw him onto Good Morning America
and he was just like,
the thing about the fighting game
is fighting game hard,
fighting game hard.
No, fighting game hard.
So during the lead up to this
Chuck Liddell versus Tito fight,
this is the current one,
the 2018 one,
I saw Chuck hitting pads, and it was bad.
He was so slow.
Now, this is coming from a relatively slow white guy, right?
Like, I think of myself as, like, normal speed,
but when other people see me, they're comparing me to, say,
like, I don't know, Sugar Ray Leonard or something,
and I look crazy slow.
But I think I can hit pads faster than Chuck Liddell.
We can all hit pads faster than Chuck Liddell.
Yeah.
At this point, I remember watching,
we watched it on either PKN or PKA,
and you guys were talking it up, like,
oh, he just looks awful.
And I was like, yeah, I bet.
In the same way that if you're like,
man, this 55-year-old ex-NHLer can barely dangle anymore,
but it's still going to be better than most things.
Then you showed me, and it was like,
combo one, combo two.
All right, set five done.
It's not really a combo, Chuck.
That was three separate punches.
What?
Give me my beer.
He was so slow. I guess we can watch it now i'm the ice man
that means i need a natural ice like nobody would sanction this fight nobody would nobody would promote this fight
except for oscar de la joya who has started his own thing called Golden Boy Productions, where he digs up old, almost dead fighters,
and he makes them fight for blood.
Hilarious.
Golden Boy Productions is actually fairly legit
and well-known in the boxing world.
This is its first MMA fight.
And it was funny because a couple things,
Oscar De La Hoya mispronounced Chuck's name at the press conference.
He clearly didn't know who Chuck Liddell was.
Yeah, Chuck Liddell!
He's the man! The cold man!
Yeah!
That's why he's always drinking NyQuil!
The cold man!
I've heard people call him the snowman
and Tito's like, no, no, that's the...
That's that.
No, no, no.
Oh, the ice man! Yeah, that's right.
So he's gotten a lot of flack because of that and but one of the cool things i thought is they split the profits on this thing
three ways chuck tito oscar they split all the profits like like chuck got like 200 250 grand
to like show and there's no like show versus win thing
as far as i know i think it was like 200 to tito and like 250 to chuck something like that roughly
and then like then they split the fucking pay-per-view and gate take profits you know
anything uh that that's and probably inflated the profit was this was this? Well, it's hard to say.
I haven't seen the pay-per-view numbers.
I will say this.
They started discounting it with a couple days to go.
It started out at like 50 or 60 bucks or something
or 40 bucks or something,
and then all of a sudden they were lowering the price
faster than Fallout 76.
It's pretty standard for an exhibition match, though.
Is it? I've never heard of that before.
Well, it's not an exhibition match.
It's a fucking full-on pay-per-view like sanctioned headline sanctions fight like it's it was a
real this is a real three round mixed martial arts bout you know three rounds you say all three rounds
right now well we have it queued up round one yeah i i'm queued up at 2 14 which is if anyone wants to watch along with us uh it's
uh chuck liddell versus tito ortiz three full fight by zach rice noted mixed martial arts youtuber
i'm ready all right three two one play
i have no volume do you guys also have no audio um like i do um which is fine i think anyway it's
the commentator's kind of like oh look at him look at the ice man he's looking good
he looks clumsy the ice man hasn't left his feet yet like he's walking side to side
not even a little bounce look at look how clumsy he looks i so i try not to throw stones at professional athletes and
such right but the way he's moving around chuck liddell looks scared and he's going backwards a
lot right chuck liddell like his thing wasn't going backwards all the time he's got that right
cocked though he doesn't want to get taken down tito is a is a accomplished wrestler tito
is still a fighter for you know he's not he's not 10 year old 10 years ago tito but tito's still a
bad motherfucker right like and you could tell but you can just tell by the stance by the movement
look at tito's movement look look look how his hands look at how his hands are moving look look
at his knees look at his a little stiff but but he looks athletic. And like he's in there, you know, sort of watching everything.
Did you see Chuck just throw that out?
Chuck looks scared at this point.
Thank you for that.
Chuck looks scared.
He looks like he's doing everything he can to pretend he's here to fight.
He just got punched in the shoulder and he's like, oh, that was hard.
Oh, my.
Really nothing has happened so far. Chuck just almost fell all on his own. Don't worry. Really, nothing has happened so far.
Chuck just almost fell all on his own.
Don't worry.
He will fall all on his own.
I think he does fall all on his own.
Yeah.
He's going to literally stumble and fall in a moment.
It's like, ow, you punched me in the ear.
Wait, we said no head shots.
Oh.
What if that was true?
What if Chuck thought there were no head shots allowed what if that was true what if what if chuck thought there were no head shots
allowed in this match no punches to the face this is my money maker oh i'm the expendables
h coming up so i know we're not doing this like minute by minute but basically chuck's been
walking backwards trying to stay out of range while tito stalks him for two minutes now
the most lively dude by a lot is the ref so in a moment here the ref could be right now if he
wanted to i think they've been training together i think tito literally said herb dean's in his
training camp yeah herb dean i i if there were a fight right now Between Herb Dean and Chuck
I'd bet the farm on Herb Dean
Herb Dean looks about 20 years younger
And he's an accomplished fighter
In his own right
Yeah, he's a fighter
I mean, maybe not world class
Certainly not world class
Oh, and there down goes Chuck
He didn't get hit though
He just fell
Well, he swung really hard Who amongst us doesn't fall if we throw a ball Oh, and there down goes Chuck. He didn't get hit, though. He didn't get hit! He just fell!
Well, he swung really hard.
Who amongst us doesn't fall if we, like, throw a ball?
He's like that kid at Lillie.
He swings too hard.
Just watch the NFL.
All those feedbacks throw themselves into a fall.
It happens.
This might even be it.
How many punches have landed on either side?
Six at most? I'm calling'm calling it like six to zero i think chuck might have an official like one hit and one punch hit this could be it could be it
any second now it's not much longer so it's it is the first round right right? Yeah, they don't. Oh, did you see that?
Chuck got a little pop on the chin.
You're stunned from it.
Yeah, but I was thinking of the right that Chuck threw there.
Did you see how slow that right was he just threw? Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very slow.
I know less about fighting than either of you,
and I could throw a faster right than that.
Oh, Tito almost fell. Tito almost fell than that. That's, like, after the fight...
Oh, Tito almost fell.
Tito almost fell, too.
It's such a shit show out there.
But it's still...
His walk, what Tito just did there,
the way he picked his feet up,
he's indicating to anyone watching that,
oh, my feet were wet.
My feet were wet.
That's what that was.
Now he's saying he hit me.
He's doing the hit me thing.
I feel like if I were to rank these fighters
on a scale of one to ten,
Tito's like a
4 and Chuck is a half.
Yeah.
If they did a tag team between these two guys
and those two YouTubers,
I'd be there.
I have a lot
of respect for Tito's physique here
and his...
That's it. And that's that.
That's that. Come on, Tito.
He's dead.
You know what?
I thought Tito got, like, three good shots afterwards.
But from another angle, you can see that the ref was holding him by the bicep and he wasn't hitting him.
Yeah, and they're glancing blows.
So that's that.
They had never seen a celebration before.
All these people are like, no, don't do your thing.
He's been doing this for 20 years now.
He's fine.
He does some sort of WWE celebration dance.
He digs his opponent's grave.
That's his celebration.
I like that.
And it's a little on the nose for this night.
All right?
Because Chuck might actually need a grave.
Look at that.
Look at Tits McGee back there.
What's she doing?
It made me feel bad.
So, look, if Chuck had just moved slowly and he didn't have his timing and such,
I'd be like, ah, maybe he'll be in there with someone.
But the fact that Chuck went down, his chin is so gone, right?
He has given his chin 12 years to recover.
You can't do that again.
You know, he's not going to come back at 63, would he be? 12 years to recover. You can't do that again.
He's not going to come back at 63, would he be?
So we said he was 48, but he's 49 in two weeks.
So let's call him 49.
He'll be 61.
He can't give it another 12. It's done.
He's done.
But I hope he got a lot of money out of it.
Well, he was having money issues or something.
He's fighting for the money.
He's not there for the love of the game.
How does he not have any money?
He was Mr. Big Guy for a while.
He was in those Expendables movies, like you'd think.
Well, I can explain a lot of this.
So he was Mr. Big Guy.
How does he not have money?
He was a professional baseball player you know in the 60s
that's when he made 100 grand a year like that's when he was mr big guy and then he got a job i'm
pretty sure his salary was 300 grand a year doing nothing for the ufc and then the ufc was bought
out and lost that job and now he took this fight and hopefully this fight gives him retirement
money no there's no way this is retirement money... Well, it depends on your version of retirement.
If he got half a million out of this after taxes,
I'd be surprised.
Oh, okay.
Well, so I don't have anything to go by,
but I thought if he got a quarter million guaranteed,
maybe another mil on top of that.
I had completely forgotten about taxes
and whatever management he needs to pay
in his camp and stuff.
I was just hoping he came out of this with two million but i i can't see that being true it just
seems like i the fact that they were discounting the the fight leads me to believe that they were
like oh shit we only sold 30 30 30 you mean 30 000 right 30 they didn't discount in america by
the way like that. They tried to.
I even thought about buying it.
It went down in 1995.
I'm like, for 1995, I might buy it.
And I tried to buy it, and sure enough, it was still like $60 or $40 or whatever it was here.
And they only discounted it in England.
Yeah, they attempted to discount it everywhere before they realized that they had contractual obligations with many of the distributors.
That's right. Which now they just look like dumbasses.
Not just assholes, but dumbasses
because they don't know their own legal paperwork
as far as the distribution rights are concerned.
Yeah, it was sad is what it was.
I felt really...
I didn't feel entertained.
I didn't feel good.
I felt bad.
And I literally jokingly, of course,
said, you know, I was like,
can I beat up Chuck?
Chiz is like, you're no Tito Ortiz.
And I was like, good point.
Good point.
I probably cannot beat up Chuck Liddell.
But I could make a show of it.
It would be like,
I watched
some Viking show the other day oh the last
kingdom the last kingdom season three is out and there's a part right there's like a sniveling
character in the show and all of a sudden like one of the big badass vikings just beats the dog
shit out of him i mean just really bloodies him and and someone else picks he's like don't kill
him good god don't kill him man and they they pick up the sniveling guy, and he's sort of dusting him off.
And he's like, he took me for a surprise, or else I would have made a show of it, at least.
That's how I think it would go if I fought Chuck Liddell.
I'd make a show of it, all right?
He'd know that it would go on for more than a few seconds.
I could avoid him, for sure.
My problem is I don't think I can throw fast enough.
I think Chuck Liddell would see everything i've got from a mile away he still has hundreds or thousands of hours of watching
punches come at him he chuck would kick my ass you remember that terrible like 2003 like clock
stoppers where you could slow down time with your watch remember that that silly awful kids movie
that's what i imagine it'd be like
fighting chuck liddell is like you everything would be slow like you'd be able to dodge punches
like a pro even if you wouldn't because those punches are slow as fuck yeah like those are
like the punches you get in those arcade i know this because i just watched dave and busters a
couple days ago those boxing games where the guy says, level one, it's like, bruiser Bill, coming in with an overhead right.
And then it tells you, lean down.
And you do.
That's what it would be like to fight Chuck Liddell.
I would just need my corner to be like,
hey, he's in the middle of throwing a right hook.
You can take your time, though.
I don't know what
my fighter sounds like.
That's how I imagine coaches sound in fighting
new topic?
I don't know how your guys' thanksgivings were
we could do that
my thanksgiving wasn't much to it
Hope went to visit her boyfriend
we didn't have family come
Jackie cooked while I didn't do anything
and then I ate too much
I cooked a delicious dinner
it was wonderful
I fried my turkey
I made my dressing and mashed potatoes
and macaroni and cheese and some other wonderful things
it was delicious
that's good, did you try anything new this year?
because I know you're always the chef
nothing I haven't done before
no
when a family
giant dinner is on the line,
you don't want to get too experimental.
True.
Especially with like the main course or something like that.
You know, I don't want to ruin it.
Do you have any other meats there, like ham or beef or anything?
Or are you just a turkey fan?
Just turkey, just turkey.
It was like a 16-pound turkey or something like that.
So there was no and and like
i don't know i i don't like beef that much especially not for like a holiday thing i don't
know i love beef anytime ham is the holiday meat i don't care for as much like even fried turkey
really beats the hell out of ham oh sure it's just it's not even close like and once again my
my grandparents made it's like every time i go to one of their Thanksgivings, I'm like, you know there's only going to be like six or seven people here.
And she cooks for 30 at least.
People think I'm joking.
I should have taken a picture.
No, there was one time you laid it out.
You're like, you think your grandma makes a lot of food because it's like the cliche, the meme.
No, no.
My grandma kicks your grandma's ass
and then you just describe how she has like you know i don't know 14 people turkeys like in queued
up waiting to go it's insane so it's only like a small side my family's not very big on that side
but we had four i think six people we had a giant oven-baked turkey.
We had three fried turkeys, an entire ham, a rack of chateau brion, which is like a filet style of beef.
More mac and cheese than you need.
More green bean casserole than you need.
So much fucking stuffing and all that shit.
And once again, second second maybe third year running like
as i was leaving the next morning to drive back my grandma was like now taylor you need to bring
some food home now we've got now this has got to be about four pounds of beef you want this i'm like
yeah yeah i want four she's like now also i have an extra fried turkey do you want this fried turkey
a whole fried turkey yeah yeah i'll take it home And so I've had pounds of meat that I've been eating through.
So I overate on Thanksgiving.
I ate most of a fried turkey by myself the next day.
I've been tearing through this beef.
My heart's hurting.
I need to give it a little heart-healthy meal, maybe some almonds.
But yeah, it's been nice.
My mother would make me this sweet potato cranberry marshmallow dish.
I don't know what it's called.
Yeah.
And my wife has taken it from me.
It was always my favorite thing at Thanksgiving.
I am having – I finished it now, but I had some very fattening meals for the week after Thanksgiving.
There was a lot of – after I saw the the um the dish like ready to be cleaned at the
like put in the dishwasher or something i was like i ate pretty much all of that that could
have been 10 000 calories in that thing like it's out it was it looked like an epic mealtime thing
that i just had too much with every lunch and every dinner for the next week yeah and i usually
like redeem myself a little bit because i don't i'm not really a pie eater very much like i don't eat pumpkin pie or uh pecan pie or you know it's all fine but it's
never like worth the calories to me like i don't like it that much but she made like little cupcake
sized cheesecakes this year and so i had a couple of those and i didn't even want to think about it
because like i'd go over and i'd like take one forkful and be like, oh, it's so rich. I can't possibly keep.
Well, I walked away.
She'd be like, now, do you like those?
I can make those more for you.
You can actually take those home if you want, Taylor.
And I was like, no, Grandma, I don't need that.
It's just so.
Well, OK, I guess I'll have a little more.
So I just kept ambling in there.
The funniest fucking thing about it is they have this super nice home that they
built because they like the rural ass area they live in they'll never resell it and they've lived
there for 15 years or something now and they have never replaced their televisions ever like and as
someone in you know our age bracket not being in 70s, like that would be a high priority, right? Like if you live in a super nice house with lots of watching room,
you don't want a 42-inch TV up on your fireplace from 2005.
And one of them has a bar going straight down the middle of it,
about this wide.
It's a 50-inch TV from like 2005.
And I was watching it there, and I was like,
Grandma, why don't you guys buy a new TV?
And my grandma was like, well, if I'm being honest,
it just doesn't bother me anymore.
I forget the bar's even there.
And I was like, we were watching football
and it's like, you can't see like five yards
from the table.
And so I
talked to my brother and I'm like, this year, we're going to go
in together. We're going to buy them a really nice TV.
It looks like the Broncos are playing a black line right now.
It covers the entire office.
It's so old.
Like HD formatting wasn't even like set yet.
And so it'll go to like that old aspect ratio out of nowhere on different channels.
And so it's like, you're really watching a 32 inch tv on a 42 inch tv
there's so many there's so many really good deals on televisions right now especially if like you
just want a 55 inch or smaller which is what most people have they're they're just giving them away
that these 4k tvs like five or six hundred dollars for like a 55 inch 4k tv now
of course the one i want that gets discounted a dime i watch stayed steady seven thousand dollars
all weekend that hundred inch tv no it's the 77 inch 4k uh oled that's the one i have my eye on
yeah the way the geometry works it's crazy like like if you go from a 72 to 77, you'd think
they're roughly the same, right?
But no, man, it's a lot
of screen. It's just that diagonal
measurement. Yeah, they add it to the outside.
That's the way it works.
It's like, you think you're going to spiral.
It's crazy. I bought something.
I put it together today.
I got Colin a new PC, a gaming PC.
I had fired up
Dusted off the old Left 4 Dead skills lately
Carrying team after team to victory
And then I was like
Colin, I put him in my seat
And he played it for a while
I thought he would take longer to get good
But he's been playing the equivalent
On Minecraft for ages
Is this his first time trying Left 4 Dead? Yeah Well it's been playing the equivalent on Minecraft for ages. Minecraft is all these... Is this his first time trying Left 4 Dead?
Yeah, well, it's been a couple...
It's been maybe two or three weeks now.
But yeah, WozD, mouse and keyboard and stuff,
he's awesome.
He's just good.
He's very good.
To me.
Yeah, I didn't want to use those words,
but I'm pretty sure he's way fucking better than Taylor.
Colin would dominate me in Left 4 Dead. I think he would way fucking better he's probably he colin would dominate me and left for dead like this i think he would yeah he just all you know and uh and
even the other keys i'm like it's e to pick up r to reload whatever no time at all he's got that
down um you have to hit like the number keys to switch which things you're active and he had no
trouble with any of that the minecraft has the same thing and uh yeah so after the show tonight
i've been waiting for like a month to
do this we're gonna play side by side left for dead with some strangers and go online and get
our thing done i look forward to it i've got two but it wasn't a good purchase so i had such
smashing luck with that 149 magnetic bike that i expected to be shitty and then ended up working
out great that I was like
huh well I'm not gonna spend six hundred dollars on an elliptical now I'm just gonna get the same
company's cheap elliptical for 250 dollars and so I bought the world's cheapest elliptical back
there uh-huh it it was it was the hardest thing I've ever had to build in my life because so many
of the parts like just wouldn't fit right.
Like I was sitting there with my girl getting mad where I'd be like, she's like, Taylor, settle down.
I'm usually like pretty level headed, but like when putting things together, if it doesn't work right, I get irate, like livid.
It's the angriest that I get.
Like if someone cuts me off in traffic, hey, come on, guy.
But like this, like i was like putting
bolts in like it's supposed to go here it's look at the fucking chinese bullshit manual slave labor
manual they told me to do and like i would like put the bolt in and i got so tired of it at one
point i just walked over and like grabbed a hammer like a murderer and like walked over to it and
just bang bang bang scared the shit out of my girlfriend because I didn't alert her.
I just hammered it through all the way.
And then I get it all the way done, all the way completed.
Two and a half hours of assembling.
That bolt actually went in the pedal of my bed.
Yeah.
And then I use it for just to test it for like 30 seconds.
And like as soon as I start going on it, like I can see my girl's face like.
And, like, as soon as I start going on it, like, I can see my girl's face, like, where I was like, you know, I don't think this is made for people my size.
The whole thing is actively rocking back and forth.
The handles are shaking.
Like, it is not holding me at all.
If I, like, I found that if I lean back and go like this, I can kind of balance myself. But if I lean forward that thing, and I go with
any intensity at all, I will topple
that entire elliptical.
I can tell looking at it.
It looked unstable in the Amazon
pictures. It didn't look safe.
And I should have noticed. I'm like,
I'm about the size of that lithe woman.
Yeah, I'll link the one I got.
God, what a stupid...
Search elliptical and then sort by cheapest.
It's that one.
It's...
Oh, man.
Yeah, it literally is.
That one.
Is it really?
Oh, what a...
There's this whole YouTube series where they test the cheapest power drill
or the cheapest bandsaw or whatever that exists. And sometimes you're like, Oh, okay cheapest uh like bandsaw or whatever like that exists
and sometimes you're like oh okay so it's not too bad it's not a dewault but it works this one would
fall into the other category see but you don't think that the model they used for this looks
about the same size as me she looks photoshopped in like that doesn't even look like a human
yeah you're right. They put a smaller
human on there. What the fuck is she looking at?
She's just excited to be
on the elliptical.
Man, what a deal. I only had to break out the hammer
three times. Go to the bottom of it
and look at the size of the base.
Very small.
It's literally narrower than the width
of my shoulders.
There's no way this is going to work for me.
So basically, well, my girl now has an elliptical she can use,
so that's good.
Oh, nice.
I like that in the second photo,
there's a dude sleeping in the background,
and that's one of their selling points.
Ultra quiet, suitable for home use.
While your girlfriend uses this bitch-made elliptical
that you foolishly purchased, you rube, you absolute idiot.
Like, why does...ube. You absolute idiot.
God. Live and learn.
Oh, and it's like magnetic.
And so that's how you turn up the resistance power. And so from the beginning
it was on the lowest.
Oh, well, it's shaking a lot
because it's so easy.
All the way to the top.
Alright, so nope. It was just shaking
because it shit.
Like, it was just easy. like ah you tighten everything enough oh yeah i went through again tight
everything like it's just i hammered the fuck out of every screw on there got them in there deep
i hammered all the bolts in i don't see the problem well that's uh yeah ellipticals are
one of those things where like the more expensive they are
in my experience anyway the better they are because i've never had a cheap one but i've got
yours to compare to now but the one at the gym that i was using was super duper fancy it had so
many settings and you know it's probably like 500 bucks or something crazy oh no had to be more than
that because the one that i own that's in a storage unit right now was like $30,000.
It was either $3,000 or $4,000.
And it could have been $4,000 that we got at Dick's Sporting Goods.
I mean, it's five years old, so three or four grand five years ago.
And the one at the gym was much nicer, I thought.
Like the display was a nicer digital thing.
And I think mine has a fan.
Yeah, that one has a fan too.
But I like the fan on the machine.
Any machine with a fan just to blow in your face,
just that little bit of air is always really nice.
Well, see, if you have one like this,
you're constantly working stabilizer muscles
to keep the fan over.
The thing is this.
So I'm looking at this.
It's $270 plus $20 in shipping.
Let's call it $300.
The most expensive way to get a $1,500 elliptical is to buy a $300 one first.
I think that's what we've done here.
You're right.
See, I was way overconfident because I ordered that $150 bike thinking it was going to be total shit.
It was perfect.
Yeah, I think our bike wasn't much more than that.
We picked it because it had a table.
You could watch shows and stuff. Yeah, that worked great. This was perfect. Yeah, I think Art Bike wasn't much more than that. We picked it because it had a table. You could watch shows and stuff.
Yeah, that worked great. This was
a mistake. So I guess, you know, the old adage,
buy it nice or buy it twice, is going to bite me in the ass
for this one.
You probably could return it. Amazon has such
a nice return policy. It'll work fine
for my... You can put it back in the box.
Take that bolt that you hammered,
throw it away, and be like,
didn't come with all the bolts.
And just return the whole fucking thing.
And they'll be like, cool.
They won't care.
They are really good at that.
They can watch this video right now and they'll be like, eh, whatever.
They don't care.
Yeah.
Another thing.
I watched a movie, Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
You guys talked about it.
Okay, first of all, I enjoyed it more than you guys did.
I won't say it was great or anything. I think
maybe I came into it with low expectations,
but you guys just made me so curious.
What I really enjoyed,
and I don't know why it tickles me so
much, when Taylor's
dumb, that is the best
ever. So, I watched
the first play, and then we go to the
second one. It's a grown man way better
looking six inches taller and i'm like taylor thought these were the same people that this
was gonna lead up to the to the first story we thought it was a story about a guy named
boster scruggs who had been established and that's why it struck me because when i saw
james franco i was like this is just like in How I Met Your Mother, where Ted grows into Bob Saget.
I'm not buying it.
I thought the exact same thing Taylor thought.
When Buster Scruggs dies, and then they go to the second vignette, and it's James Franco, I'm like, ah, this is the beginning of the Buster Scruggs story.
I see.
Okay.
At first, I thought this was going to be some stupid thing with disjointed stories that were
all different that was gonna piss me off but now that i see that we're going back in time
and unlike the way morty likes it we're we're not starting the story where it begins we were
starting the story where it ends and then going back i'm much happier and then james franco died
and i was like is there time travel or other dimensions oh now we're an old-timey gold miner out in the wilderness.
Now he lives longer than Buster Scruggs.
I liked old-timey gold miner, and I liked most of the one with James Franco,
with the all-star scene in that one being when the guy that plays the bulldozer
puts on his pans and runs around
just like, pan shot!
I thought he was saying
head shot. No, pan shot.
They were singing off the band.
Pan shot! And he's just squinting
at him.
That made me laugh.
That was so good.
It was one of the movie highlights.
It was great. It really was.
There were a lot of good points in it.
I liked all of Ballad of Buster Scruggs, even the end of that vignette.
The one where the legless, harmless guy.
That was boring to me.
You say it was super boring?
Super boring.
Dude, so all of the stories, with maybe exception of the first one were 30 longer than they needed to be you know agree that sure oh usually i'm alone in that
usually they tell me no what do you don't appreciate a slow burn or something but yeah
they didn't go anywhere okay they wanted to establish the gold miner worked really hard
to find the gold okay so they show him digging a hole digging a hole digging a hole digging a hole
digging a hole digging a hole digging a hole digging another fucking hole there's like 16 minutes of hole
digging i get it i get it you could have maybe just like shown the holes afterwards and i'd be
like wow that was a lot of hole digging i didn't need to take the hole digging out that whole
thing's eight minutes long okay could that be fine slip in a different one that oh and it's funny if they
added like an extra two minutes where he's like he puts those eggs back and then it just shows
that shot for like a minute if he crawls down then it shows him crawling back up like fucking birds
that was another i enjoyed like knowing that taylor thought those eggs were like the owl was
going to eat them and that they were too small to be owl eggs and there was a real hiccup in the storytelling there don't stand by that
that's a that's a that's a great horned owl
like yeah he's probably just making sure that the owl gets triple his own food store
he was really a nice guy it was a real letdown you know because like when i think of coen brother
movies i think of masterpieces that i think those are the kind of movies that like i you buy on dvd
and like put on a shelf somewhere like like no country for old men the big lebowski stuff like
that it's just oh brother where art thou like i was expecting a western oh brother where art thou
like like like and and to me that would have been
a new modern classic because i love a brother where art thou and it has a lot of the same
actors like the guy who plays buster scruggs obviously is one of the soggy bottom boys that's
tooling around and uh the pan shot guy he's in there too he's the guy who runs he's the blind
uh radio dj who's like singing and'm about to sing it and I'm picking.
And he's in there all blind, just singing to himself.
And they come in and he's like,
You boys come in here, I'm going to pay you $5 a piece.
And he's like,
Well, only four of us can write.
Myrtle and Aloysius have to sign it. This is Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Yeah, there is write myrtle and aloe wishes have to sign this is oh brother
we're out there yeah there is no myrtle and aloe wishes he's like that's okay he's just
pretending like there's five instead of three on buster scruggs i think that was part of why i
liked it more like like you came in there looking for a masterpiece i was told this movie kind of
sucks so i was pleasantly surprised and and you were disappointed, even though it was different.
It's a difference of anticipation.
Yeah, garbage, man, garbage.
I was so upset.
I feel ripped off.
I'm so glad I didn't pay for this.
Or go to the movies to see it?
Oh, I'd have been livid if I had plunked down $50 for me and a date
to go watch this shit.
Bought some candy.
Oh!
Oh!
Some $9 Goobers.
Kind of
spit in the popcorn bucket.
It pretty much takes a Marvel movie
or Star Wars to get me to the movie
theaters nowadays.
There's no reason to go to the movies.
That's why that whole business is kind of
dying.
There's no way they're going to be able to
maintain this new trend of totally shrinking their capacity to make it luxurious when like
screens are getting cheaper all the time we already talked about how projectors are getting
so much cheaper like people are getting like and in the on-demand aspect of it like just knowing
you can hop on amazon who's getting movies sooner and sooner all the time like sometimes like even
like it feels like movies will just leave theaters. It's like, oh, on Amazon.
Like, already.
Yeah, but then you gotta pay $20.
Like, I watched,
oh, what's that movie I just
have bought? Oh, I'll say this.
Now, Tom Cruise is a crazy
person. I really dislike
the Scientology thing, and I don't mean
that I don't care for it. I mean,
it makes me think less
of him because he does it. And he's such a huge part of it. He's not just a practitioner. He's
like the guy they give gold medals to at creepy ceremonies, right? He's not just a Catholic,
he's the Pope. He's a cardinal at the very least. He's a scary fucking guy, if you ask me.
But goddamn, I watched that new Mission mission impossible movie now that is a fucking
killer movie every one of them is better than the last like like there's only mission impossible
two which i think john woo directed each one's got a different director um i want to say the
the the third one is michael bay directed uh the first one was um Palma directed. I don't know who's directing this new one.
Masterpiece.
Incredible action.
Tom Cruise is funny, witty.
He plays that Ethan Hunt character to a T, like he's mastered that character.
He's an executive producer in all of these movies, which means he's betting on the movie.
He's working on the project.
For most of them, he doesn't take salary. He takes a percentage
of the gross. He made $70 billion
for the first one.
Instead of salary, he just took $70 million
home in 1996.
That's how long he's been making these things.
Since 1996.
I wonder if he's richer than Jerry Seinfeld.
No.
That's a tall order. I think Seinfeld's right at a bill.
Well, I mean, that's easy. 10% there seinfeld's like right at a bill well i mean that's easy 10
there with one of his movies that's true i it'd be it'd be interesting to find out he could be
close but and maybe he's got some hidden monies with that whole scientology cult thing but god
damn mission impossible um fallout i think is the name of it. Really good movie. I enjoyed it. And like, he still looks good.
He's still fit when he runs.
Tom Cruise can run.
All right.
When like,
there's a lot of characters that you see him run in a movie and you're like,
come on,
man,
you're not athletic at all.
You,
you can barely run.
Like your hands are doing weird stuff.
Your,
your knees are all jibby jabby.
Like you're not,
you're not,
you're,
you're like not leaning into it at all.
You don't look athletic when you run,
bro. A perfect example of that
is who's the guy who whispers
really menacingly and was big
in the 80s and the 90s?
The 6'4 fake kung fu guy
who... Steven Seagal.
Steven Seagal runs like a girl.
If you go on YouTube and search
Steven Seagal runs like a girl, entire video is devoted
to the fact that Steven Seagal runs like a girl.
All right, let's check it out.
Will Smith will agree with you.
Will Smith – it was his son, Jade Smith, who did the movies with him.
He had a running coach come in.
He says, look, women will decide if you are sexy in one second based on how you run.
We need to get – so he gets like an Olympian track guy to teach his son how to run like a movie star.
And he does.
He teaches it.
And so everybody instantly identifies a run as whether or not it's athletic or not.
Now I'm watching a TV show called The Goldbergs.
Are you guys familiar with this?
No.
Super funny.
It's a sitcom.
It's brain candy.
But it's great.
It's so great.
It's about a bunch of kids, Jewish kids, The Goldbergs.
And they get in their little hijinks and disagree with each other.
The oldest one is actually pretty athletic, like he does wrestling and plays ice hockey,
but he runs horribly.
And I'm going to do the run. Hold on a second.
What he's doing a run for us now, for those of you who are listening.
Oh, it's a terrible run.
It looks like he's running so fast that his arms are being blown back.
It is the funniest thing to see.
It only shows up like every fourth or fifth episode,
and he'll run for like three seconds, and you're like,
like when a little kid sticks their arms back behind him,
and runs like they're gaining speed.
I'm watching a clip with the sound off right now
of Steven Seagal runs like a girl, and I
genuinely am having trouble believing that these
aren't jokes. No, that's how Steven
Seagal runs. It's a lot of these
movements. It's not
straight up and down. It's a lot of
semi-circles.
I've got no problem whether you make a fist and run
or if you run with the hands. Tom Cruise runs
with hands open. I've noticed that.
Karate chopping. You watch Tom Cruise run and he is
full out sprinting so fast. Not only is he running
does it look good? You're like, he's moving. He's moving pretty good.
He'd outrun the shit out of me. There's no way I'd keep up with Tom Cruise. I know it.
Well, you just saw what I'm capable of. If Tom Cruise was like,
yeah, come on, Kyle.
Foot race.
For the cardinal ship of the Scientology Club.
The cardinal ship.
Shit.
I can't beat him.
I know I can't.
Even though he's 58 years old or whatever he is now.
Like, there's no way.
He's so fucking athletic and fast. Can I get the same, same like cocktail of surgery and drugs that has kept
him forever young too late he's been on that shit since the early 90s damn i don't know
rogan had i guess i forget what i think he was 40 when rogan started testosterone
and he basically was weird he like decided you was weird. He like decided, you know,
I only got like 30 years left.
So I'll just make it 20 good ones instead of 30 bad ones.
Whatevs.
And that was the decision he made.
He looks good.
He does?
Kind of.
He looks weird.
He doesn't look like,
it's all, so this is the thing.
And I say this with plastic surgery all the time.
They'll be like this
actress looks bad right her lips look silly or something and i think yeah you're right she doesn't
look good but we need to compare what we're seeing to the hypothetical didn't have surgery version
you're comparing her to her younger self that's not fair she's not going to have that that's not
one of the choices it's where she is now or where she would have been if she didn't have surgery. Back to
Rogan. Rogan's
got a big old meat head.
He's bald. TRT balds you.
He's strong.
He's so thick in the middle.
People think he's fat when he has a shirt on.
And you lift it and he's got abs in there.
But what I presume are like
enlarged organs and intestines
and whatnot.
And he just fills out his shirt like a fat person does.
He wears too tight of a shirt as well. That's a bit of a thing.
He lives out there in L.A.
I feel like he hangs around Brendan Schwab too much.
Brendan Schwab wears skinny jeans and tight shirts,
and maybe he's influenced.
Joe looks good in camo.
When he's got his camo hat on and his camo jacket and he's out in Alaska or Montana or something like crouched with a rifle, he looks like a manly son of a bitch.
But when I see him in studio wearing a lavender pullover with four buttons and it's way too tight, I'm just like, ugh.
Or when I see him in the ring, in the octagon, with
those knuckles that are hairier than my
dick, and
he's wearing this
black button down, where each
button is screaming for mercy.
We are testing the tensile strength of
button thread. I bet he's got to get
the buttons reinforced.
You know I like Kevlar stitching
on my buttons, right?
We use kite string on this.
600 pound test.
Yeah, you're right. His shirts,
when he interviews the fighters in there, they're too
tight. A nice
shirt, it lays right, but his is always
like...
So you're right about that.
But what I was saying is I want to compare this
version of Joe to what he would have been otherwise.
Young Joe looked really good, I thought.
He looked like Jim Norton.
No, he didn't.
He was super handsome.
That's what he'd look like without the TRT.
That's what hypothetical.
Like skinny and still bald because he's got the hair transplant.
But imagine Joe still worked out.
He doesn't just take all working out out.
He just takes the HGH, TRT, whatever it is out.
What would his workouts be like
if he didn't bounce back every day like a 19-year-old?
What would his workouts be like
if he didn't get the kind of visual reinforcement that he gets?
Now he can kill it in the gym,
and then the next day, kill it in the gym and then the next day you know kill it in the gym again
because he's on steroids so yeah yeah anyway i i i want to be on steroids i think that's the
takeaway i think that's what i'm getting do it do it fucking do it and look look i said this
before about about getting like you know anything prescribed that you that you that you feel like
you need you know just go to another doctor you know you just go to another doctor and like what i've done i've got done a
little google searching here in atlanta and it's like find a place that specializes in that shit
like like like i think that's what i thought i was doing that kind of like sports medicine places
my family doctor has like a sports medicine specialty right So I was like well I'll go to that guy
And then he's like yeah your testosterone is not really low enough
To warrant this
Is it that of a 19 year old
Because that's what we're targeting
18 I don't care
I'll even go 17
Not too much lower because that's about when I hit puberty
This is Vito Belfort
This is what we're going for here.
My friend did that.
I'm sorry, sir.
You want to be a cage fighter?
Ideally, yes.
I want the testosterone of a cage fighter.
There's a dude in my universe, and he got his steroids tested.
And they were at like this testosterone tested.
And they were like at the level of mine.
And I was like, that's not actually low.
That's like within the range.
He's like, yeah, but they said it was low for what we're going for.
Yeah.
I need the doctor with that mindset.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Like it's, I don't think I don't want to do it.
Joe's talked about the personality changes, right?
Do you remember when Ben Affleck was on Bill Maher's show and he was arguing with a right, a conservative, I forget his name. And he was like,
you think Muslims are sympathetic to ISIS? That's disgusting. Do you guys remember this scene?
Yeah. Joe Rogan was talking about that. He's like, I think Ben Affleck was on steroids when
he did that. He's like, he was all red.
He was all swole.
He was training for Batman.
I think that he just had a head full of steam and testosterone
and wasn't himself on that.
Yeah, maybe.
Something about that sunk in.
I was like, well, I don't want to be like that
every time I can't find AA batteries
and blame my wife for misplacing them.
I don't want to be hard to...
I want to be me.
I think you just try it out.
I had this conversation with my dad a while back.
I was like, maybe you should get on this
TRT stuff. He was like, you know, my knuckles
hurt. They hurt
when it gets cold. And I was like, you should get
on TRT. It makes
everything better.
You're not going to turn to 20 20 year old
you but you're gonna have the chemistry of 20 year old you and that's got to make your knees are
gonna feel better your your knuckles are gonna feel better like you're gonna have more energy
you're gonna you're gonna have more get up and go bring out a bed in the morning with lots of gusto
and a full mast and and he literally said basically what you said.
He's like, well, why don't you make me mean?
He was like, because 25-year-old me was, you know, I had a lot of issues.
A lot of angst.
You know, that's when those people.
Pint up energy.
25, 30-year-old me is when those people tell you those stories about you know and i'm just like i don't think it will and hey who cares what you
know like like maybe you try it for a few months you you get a little angry and then you come back
off of it you know if you turn into angry daddy you know but but but you know test it you know
what's the worst that could happen do you make it a lot of sense that's what i'm getting for christmas a syringe oh at the very
least it'll be a funny bit for us to watch it unfurl me turn all red you're disgusting
like ben affleck it's it's just us like trying to trigger you every show like We've almost got him into Red Woody.
You've met
Blue Woody. Wait till you see Red Woody.
No, and I hate
George Foreman grills and leisure
activities that involve aviation.
And Kyle just does
entire episodes like this.
That'd be like four minutes in and you'd be getting the reaction.
We'll give you a PKA.
Our sponsors tonight are Red Woody,
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Oh, that's a thing. I don't want to go bald. I would look silly. Yeah, you definitely... Oh, yeah oh that's a thing i don't want to go bald i would look silly
yeah you definitely oh yeah that's don't risk it you're gonna kick yourself if you're like i had it
all i i think i think as long as you have like the um you know that under the tutelage of a
doctor the guidance of a doctor i think you're fine you get some acne at the worst you know that under the tutelage of a doctor the guidance of a doctor i think you're
fine you get some acne at the worst you know i'd do it if i were you i definitely would
i definitely would 100 and like like i like i said i did a little bit of googling here in atlanta and
it's like there are places that like sort of even say it they're like you know we're gonna make you
the the best version of you you can be.
And, you know, they talk about the range of testosterone levels.
And it's the same place that did like IV, vitamin IV bags and stuff like that just for hangover recovery.
I feel like if they have a service that's for someone who had a hangover, but they're coming in to get an IV, then a 40-year-old man could totally get some TRT there.
I agree.
I Googled it not long ago.
There was a Raleigh anti-aging clinic or something.
Let's go.
We'll get buff and, yeah, it'll be fun. I had a new PR with weightlifting recently,
which is rare for me because I don't buy new shit really.
Like I've just had like, you know, other than this trash apparently where I was like, Oh,
I could rationalize buying this. But I was looking at like getting a couple of like 70 pound dumbbells
and it was like $300. I'm like, you know what? I'll be moving in the next couple of months or
whenever it actually happens. I'm not going to buy these yet. But like, and it wasn't even on
a workout day. It was like Saturday night or or something i sat down and like picked up the 250s i have and usually i've
been curling with 35 for so long that like you know i have to do a ton of volume to actually
make that difficult like doing the curl and press and all that and i was just sitting there on the
bench i picked up the 50s and i was like it must have been six months this is the last time i tried
to curl those i was just like six eight months i couldn't get it and i got one and I was like it must have been six months this is the last time I tried to curl those I was just like six eight months I couldn't get it and I got one and I was like oh oh and I did it and
then like I was so stoked on myself that like I wanted to see like you could do one you could do
more than one you're not even that tired yet so I did like you know six to eight of those which was
too many to do for the first time you know what you should try terrible form it really helps me up my weights
oh yeah see i was being very careful to do good i want to fuck myself and put it down i was super
stoked on myself and proud like hell yeah like that's a big jump in strength i just saw i was
probably capable of this for a while i didn't even know and the next day i didn't have any soreness
because you know that's just not how it works like when you really
break your muscles down you have that doms that delayed onset muscle reaction and today and
yesterday my right bicep feels like someone is stabbing it like just trying like trying to extend
all the way like it it's like some of the worst pain i've had my bicep in a while which is great
because it means i'm like hitting a new level of exertion that i'd kind of like burnt out on with the 35s i think so not that interesting of a tale but i'm like
and it was a little ratcheting up or something i was like hell yeah like that's a real notice
there's no way that i would have been able to like a year ago curl 50 pounds and press it in
one arm like that like especially while doing both so i was pretty happy with that it's 50
and each it was 50 dumbbells 50 in each hand, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I knew I could do,
like at a friend's house,
I did like the 100 with both on a bar,
but that's like,
you're not doing the stabilizing as much.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to compare it to.
That's what I was thinking.
I was like.
But having two individual dumbbells is way, way harder.
That's totally different
because I know I can do,
I've done 25s on the bar
and like
curled it and pressed it that's not that hard but there's no way i do 50s yeah no way it's it's way
way harder to do with uh the two two weights instead of the one i think i could clean and
jerk with a 50 in each hand you know oh i think you could hurt yourself real badly. Yeah, that kind of hurt right there.
Just imagine cleaning and jerking dumbbells instead of a bar.
Hurt me a little.
Just the imagining of it.
I don't think that's safe.
You shouldn't do that with dumbbells.
You can do that with kettlebells, though.
If you have two of those because the weight's behind you.
Yeah.
That's actually even easier than the curl press.
The clean and press, I could do that with 65 per hand.
Because, like, that energy of the actual clean is, like, you're using your legs.
You're getting a lot in there.
Whereas with curling, like, you can, like, be a cheater and, like, kind of, like, scrounge down and then use your calves a little bit if you want.
Which, you know, if you have calves like Woody, you could probably knock those out easy.
But, yeah, it's much harder to do the stationary standing kind of
i went to weights with colin today it's actually the first time i lifted since the competition
ended we just kind of broke the seal and got back in there but uh i did that same strength loss you
noticed oh yes i felt like my pull-ups weren't as good as they were before uh but also i i didn't
even go that hard i always go back I sort of start slow
I did 15 pull ups but I did it with
this cheesy elastic strap
that break was so short though
you'll be right back to where you were in 3 days
I hope so
what is this?
let's watch this
I think we're coming to the end anyway
if you want to watch this at home
this is called TRTVTour.
The YouTuber is RippedRoofy, and this video has 265,000 views.
There is another video that's also called TRTVTour, just not as funny.
Ready?
Taylor, are you ready?
I'm ready.
Ready, set, play.
He doesn't look that good there.
That's why it's black and white.
It's just free TRT.
He still looks pretty good, though.
His bicep.
Oh, he's losing.
He's getting beaten up.
Oh, nice job, Ray.
Here he is again.
Chris Wideman.
He was on steroids for this fight. The guy winning? No, the guy losing. Oh, nice job, Ray. Here he is again. Chris Wideman.
He was on steroids for this fight.
The guy winning?
No, the guy losing.
Oh, that's embarrassing. Yeah, I know it doesn't fit the narrative, but they had his results.
This is not a flattering compilation.
I think it's going to be.
I want a victory.
Yeah.
You know, I want victory.
That's what it is.
My name is Speak for Yourself.
I just want a victory.
God, he looks so good there.
That's the rid.
there.
It's a ridge.
Yeah, he's totally shredded now.
Yeah.
Look at him. Look how intense.
He grew hair.
Look at him.
He's literally hulking out.
him he's literally hulking out he is transforming the men behind him look human and he's just another level see this is it like when when Taylor was
talking about Rogan and he said you know well you know imagine that he works out
this guy worked out the whole way through. He just couldn't work out like this.
Yeah.
He's getting better results from the workouts, too.
He's drinking out of something you have to two-hand.
More!
Syringes.
The needle.
Jesus, that's a huge difference. More! The syringes. The needle. Oh look at the...
Do you see his center abs have those like
almost pimples on them?
That's from sticking
a needle in his belly.
Dan Henderson is like, I may have made a mistake.
Luke Rockhold
This is DRT.
He didn't want to touch gloves, he's gonna kill.
Gonna wheel kick your ass.
Mistakes were made.
Look at how aggressive he is, dude.
Like, look at this. No fear.
Look at his nipples sticking out.
He's so roided up.
Look at his aggression.
He's just an animal.
Yeah, he's just.
The thing about him has always been, like, you get hit once in your days,
and before you know it, ten more shots are in.
Ooh, he picked him up off his feet.
That was Nganou-like.
Like, punch that guy mid-jump.
Then fucking shinned into the head.
He's just, he's the water boy.
He's in a state of Hulkamania right here
Oh those are hard, hard shots
I hate to ruin the video
But these fights are actually out of order for the narrative
Like those losses are later on
Yeah
Jesus
Hard kicks
Well maybe it's after they,
didn't they like let him do it for a while
and then they made him stop doing it?
Yeah, but like that Weidman fight, for example,
in the beginning was after they made him stop.
There's Trump there.
Trump's approving.
That's hilarious.
Man, well, big change.
Big change in body type.
Dude, that guy.
So he was on roids early in his career,
and then he got off them,
or at least he wasn't super on them.
And he kind of waned.
And then he got back on and became TRT Vitor
and went on a run.
If you see a guy really step into his prime around 38,
he's probably on steroids. Yeah, and to hear rogan explain it like the trt is different than steroids he's like that's just testosterone
they're just shooting him full of testosterone not steroids so it's totally fair no no no he's
not saying it's fair he's just saying it's a completely different thing for like for like
him and the way that he's reacting to it it's i don't know yeah i don't know much about i guess
steroids are like fake testosterone or like it's making your body produce more testosterone or
something he got on approved testosterone right there was a point in the usc where they're like
you know to make it fair we're gonna let these old people take steroids the young people are like wait this doesn't seem fair but hey yeah they brought it up
recently i think i think brendan schwab did um saying that like it would be great if vitor got
into that golden boy production things which seems to be a lot of old fighters he's like they better
watch the fuck out if trt vitor jumps in there
with those old dogs he's gonna clean house it's like yeah yeah chael sunnen fucking tito ortiz
poor chuck liddell they don't want none of vitor that would be scary i yeah i was all with you
until you disparaged the name of the undefeated grand champion chael sunnan i mean
tito beat up chael like a year ago well that was chael's first fight back how's he done since then
he's won some he beat um rampage and somebody else i saw um i saw him fight fedor obviously
that that those are the i've only seen two of his fights, and he lost them both.
I guess that's why I'm thinking that.
Yeah, that was his first and most recent.
In the middle, I think he won two.
Yeah, I was hoping he could beat Fedor.
I was like, oh, man, that'd be a great feather in the cap to beat fucking Fedor.
It really would.
And I like the way Chael breaks down fights afterwards.
He's usually very respectful.
Leading up to it, it's no holds barred.
But afterwards, he's really respectful, and I like that about him.
And he's like, you know, I thought Fedor was fast, like, for heavyweight.
He's like, no, he's just, that's what fast is.
He's so fast.
He hits hard like a heavyweight, but fast like a middleweight,
and it was hard to deal with.
And also, he described, so there was a point where Chael Sonnen was on the ground, getting ground and pounded.
And he's like, I thought I was bobbing and weaving and making sure that nothing was really hitting.
I thought my defense was really on point.
I was disappointed that the referee stopped it.
Then I watched the video, and I really wasn't doing anything like that.
It's like, ah, I like it.
It's just kind of a humble, like, you know,
this is what I thought was going on
and it's not where it was.
But I guess that's a wrap.
223. Yeah, man. Sure.
Alright. PKN. 223.