Painkiller Already - PKN #225

Episode Date: December 21, 2018

It's PKN time baby!

Painkiller Nearly, episode 225. We were just talking about the fights! Yeah, yeah, great card. I bought it. I had to buy it. Everybody else was watching on some scary livestream. And I'm not above getting on one of those livestreams if it's a shitty card. If I feel like they didn't do their job at selling me a $65 pay-per-view prize. Is that what it is now? That's what it was the other night. I had already decided i was gonna

buy it and i got the 60 and i was like whoa whoa what happened more roughly i've been to like 55 50 60 it seems like you skipped 60 and just went straight to oh you could be right i don't know i thought they were 60 that's that to me is what the price is it is and then if connor's on the card sometimes they really just mess with you. But... Well, I felt like I got my money's worth. Like the undercard fights. Oh, your girl won. Yeah, of course.

What's her first name? Shevchenko's? Valentina Shevchenko. Yeah, I've called like seven or eight fights in a row now. Especially if you count the one when we're on Discord, we usually make our call. I think Shevchenko's winning this one.

Cowboy's gonna get destroyed. I think I'm like 7-0 I think. I didn't call the DC fight. Not because I wasn't pretty damn sure DC was gonna win, but mostly because I wanted the Black Beast to somehow have one of those moments

where the big, fat, giant guy is just the champion of the heavyweights. Because he would have been so funny. He would have been so funny if he'd won it. He's the balls-and-hot guy. Yeah. But this recent card, first you had Gunnar Nelson

versus... These are the fights that I thought were notable. Gunnar Nelson fought Cowboy Oliveira, and he split him like this. The cut goes down and then makes a V, which leaves this piece that tears away and dangles. 27 stitches. And I don't think he tapped to the rear naked choke. I think the ref was just saw him when he pulled him back and everybody was like yeah just call it ref

just call it I think he gave the rear naked choke JL Sonnen talked about this he says sometimes a fighter knows that he's had enough that it's not going to be his night and you know he's like rear naked choke is the easiest one you just sort of give him your back it doesn't hurt you don't get injured and you can he's like real naked choke is the easiest one you just sort of give him your back

it doesn't hurt you don't get injured and you can get out of the fight yeah the injury had already came someone was i i forget if it was uh who's the guy forrest griffin stephen bonner or salmon or something like that but they said they did it they're like one time you know i just gave up the rear naked choke and it wasn't my night and like the uh the athletic commission looked into it like as he threw the fight and i didn't i see just throwing the towel i think like like last night like in this car we're talking about first of all that was that was the most blood i'd seen in a while like i i heard like those guys at espn don't know their shit like i don't consider myself a mma historian or an expert anything approaching it but sometimes i hear those guys on espn say shit and i'm just like you watched a lot of boxing didn't you and then they just threw you into this

job like you don't seem to know the players or the game and it's it's it's i notice it when you say stupid it's the most blood ever seen in a UFC. I'm like, I think Joe, our Joe, bled a whole lot more than Cowboy did the other night. Cowboy just had this big spurt of blood. It was dripping, and then game over. Joe fought for rounds with the blood pouring. If you go to his gym, they gave him that canvas. Yeah.

Yeah. That canvas was so historically bloody. They're like, Joe, you want this? I mean, it's got your DNA all over it. That or we burn it. We're worried about the environment. So then Valentina Shevchenko faces off against Joanna Jacek. And I felt like it was a no-brainer that Valentina was going to win.

She's so – not only is she big and strong but she's just so talented like she seems like another she she looks like a 135 pounder and joanna looks like a 115 pounder and if you don't know they're meeting in the middle to take this 125 pound belt that this other bitch who was a coward like like basically just wouldn't fight for and so i i couldn see, even as talented as Joanna is, beating Valentina. Yeah, you've been on that. I don't want to call it a bandwagon because you were there early, but you've been on the Valentina train since the get-go. Oh yeah, yeah, I think she beat Nunez. I'll say that every time. And it was funny in her post-fight press conference, Valentina's like, Amanda knows she lose this fight she knows she knows this fight to me she knows she did not win she know

she know so when cyborg beat her because cyborg will beat her cyborg real champion i want next she's like yeah yeah i love this chick i love that she wants to i do like it i like it there's nothing to dislike there except sometimes when a guy just gets the belt, never defended it, and they're already like, yeah, I'm going to start collecting more belts. It's like, oh, you're supposed to be going for other belts because there's really no one left to challenge you.

Oh, you think that sentiment is bad? Joanna's was even worse. Joanna's post-fight press conference actually upset me a little. She was like, yeah, I'd like another shot at this belt. And then, if I win that, then and only then will I go

back down to 115 one more time, also for the belt. And it's like, no! Pick a weight class. Do I have a favor where every fight is a title fight no matter what giving connor that that automatic rematch they're they're telling connor all right you're gonna have to fight a poirier or a cowboy or a or a ferguson or or something like that and then you know maybe we'll throw you right back in there but you're ranked three in the world right now

let's get you back up to number one in the world and he will throw you back in there and and get things going valentina's like our um joanna's like oh yeah i deserve this more than anyone you can't beat rose nama unis who's 115 how good is rose after i don't know god damn rose must be great like like like rose must be better than like i look at rose and i'm worried about her every time she goes goes... I'm never like, Oh, you're fucked up. You might have to fight Rose. I'm like, Come on, Rose.

Hold it together. Rose, you seem so sweet. Are you sure you want this job? She looks frail. She looks frail. She looks like a little girl. Although if you hear her talk, there's no fear in her.

Nah, she's got attitude. Yeah, she's got some attitude. After the second time she beat Joanna, they're like, Oh, you know, what do you attitude. Yeah, she's got some attitude. After the second time she beat Joanna, they're like, you know, what do you think? This and that took a little longer this time. And she's like, yeah, it took longer. I figured her out, though. I'm just better. And I heard that,

and I was like, you're so cocky. Actually, I mean, you're 2-0 against... You're better. Yeah. And I like that she solidified it that way because the first time it's like she gets one of those crazy fast knockouts and I think it was round one or whatever and then just

fight. Matt Serra beat GSP. But not twice. No, nobody beats GSP twice. Nobody. Matt Serra just did my head a second ago. As a matter of fact nobody beats GSP Once and gets away with it

That's a better way to put it I think you might be right But the two guys Who were kind of known for being Champion but just like whatevs Are Matt Sarah and Matt Hughes Matt Hughes was like Yeah I like being champion

You know Downside is everyone you fight is good But on the upside you're guaranteed to have one more Matt Hughes. Matt Hughes was like, yeah, I like being champion. You know, downside is everyone you fight is good. But on the upside, you're guaranteed to have one more fight at least. Because you're champion, they always let you fight again. And he was like, yeah, that's it. And Tim Sylvia used to remark on it. He's like,

Matt Hughes doesn't really care that he's champion. Whereas most of these other guys, Joanna Janczyk, something close to that, especially, it's her whole sense of self-worth. Her everything is wrapped up. They called her Joanna Champion.

She got to change her Twitter handle after she loses a fight. It's serious business. Yeah, she was Joanna Champion. And now she's not. Now she's Joanna Three Fight Losing Streak? Or did she win one did i miss one three man is it gotta be yeah it's three all right so she just fought uh thug rose thug rose and then valentina and the bullet and the bullet wrapped her up the other night yeah absolutely

and it's a testament to how good she's so good like like like i i think that that anybody who's watched those three fights in particular you don't need to be a fight fan or an expert in anything to realize she is probably the she's the second best fighter at probably both of those weights the problem is the best fighters at both those weights are the best fighters at both those weights it fucking thug rose is a badass at 115 and if valentina can clearly make 125 and look good and stay strong then that's her division joanna does have a win i just looked it up i forgot she fought uh tisha torres the cookie monster i saw that fight actually i forgot about

it yeah that is the coolest but i do the cookie monster is my favorite fighter. It only works for girls. But if you're a girl and your handle is the Cookie Monster, I like it. I like it. I'll take it. Yeah. I kind of like it because cookie is kind of another word for pussy. I never put it in. That's what I'm thinking about. I always thought it was cookie related until now.

It always comes right back around to pussy, Woody. I don't know what I slip in. I'm slipping. I'm waiting for that pussy bite maneuver to become a UFC technique. Biting is illegal. Oh, boy. What they don't see, doesn't... Yeah, I didn't catch that fight, or I just forgot it.

It doesn't seem like there's been enough time elapsed. Nah. We'd notice the bulge. Yeah, we would you get sometimes sometimes they're on their back and pretty much the missionary position like you like like just spread eagle like completely hips rotated out like we'd notice a cup i wonder if they have even like slight padding or something like is it straight up like a bathing suit where they think there's some padding there, like some cushy stuff. But I seriously don't think there's any. I know there's no cuff.

It would be obvious. I bet there's something thicker than a bathing suit. I mean, these women, you'd see camel toe, right? And I never do. So there's – I don't think I do. Yeah, it's definitely thicker than that yeah they're probably wearing if i you know they're probably smart and they're wearing a couple of things under there like maybe a pair of athletic underwear and then like a maybe two or three layers because because we saw them go to that before reebok took over to like wearing like

at least two tops right yeah it didn't pop out i like it when they wear the boy shorts to me like if i was a professional women's fighter i assume i'm somewhere on the hot scale right like this is the peak me uh why are you wearing shorts even the ugly ones are hot enough to pull out boy shorts do it and pull off yeah yeah i think the boy shorts are the way to go i think for the guys too i i think um uh connor Connor often wears those really tight sort of boy short, man short things. I feel like that's good for like, you know, if you're going to be throwing kicks,

if you're going to be bouncing around, I bet a little bit of spring to him helps him be a little more athletic. They're like loading up as he moves. You're not wrong. I feel like if you're totally performance oriented, those boy shorts that the guys wear are probably the way to go. But maybe i'm stuck in the past i still see like board shorts they're mma shorts but they're kind of board shorts and i

think that's the best look for guys yeah by the way i like him on connor and plus he's european as well so it just makes a little bit of sense like god knows what that man would wear to the the beach connor wears those uh skintight leggings that guys wear now to work out. Again, maybe I'm just not keeping up with current fashion, but the leggings look doesn't – I like it on girls. You're wearing yoga pants, dude. Yeah. It's not what I wear, but to each his own.

He's a pretty high-level athlete. I guess do your own – I see them doing all kinds of silly things and i'm like that probably doesn't help i saw aya quinta doing this thing where he's got this board that's kind of shaped like a t with light bulbs all over it and every time one lights up he has to throw a combo he's like pop pop like punching the light bulbs i'm like uh-huh i'm gonna be better off sparring right now like like is he it i mean he's hitting like i just don't know how much that help that's helping i don't know you can't just spar right it connor has this thing um they do almost like a fluid kind of rhythmic sparring with no heat on the punches at all and they call it upgrading the

software without damaging the hardware yeah so that that makes a lot of sense to me you know they're just looking observing finding spots finding holes reading fighters but all without punching really and uh that's the next step i think in and um in fighting sports so in jujitsu you can go full fucking speed as hard as you want wrestling to some extent wrestling wrestling to some extent as well um but you can't with striking without people getting hurt. Even if it's your sparring partner. Even if it's some light jabs and stuff. You eat 20,000 light jabs

and you've done some brain damage. The next step is either some sort of headgear where there's like straps coming down to secure the head. Or virtual reality. I don't know which. It's got to go in one of those areas. What's the headgear so that the head doesn't twist? Is that the idea reality i don't know which like like it's got to go in one of those areas so that so that the head doesn't twist is that the idea i don't know maybe so it doesn't maybe so it's like cushioned and it's like got shock absorbers all around your your head in

every direction i don't know but if they could strike at full speed whenever they wanted without risking a cut and a concussion i feel like they'd just be better they say the headgear does nothing to prevent concussions that it you know that all it does is prevent cuts having sparred with and without it i feel like it does help it has to it's it's decelerating the punch it has to right but it it's still all eventually transferring to your head, right? Yeah. Even if it's wrapping around your forehead. But like you said, it's decelerating the punch. If the punch is coming at you.

And it's like a crumple zone up there slowly. Crumple zone. Yeah. Yeah. It just has to. I don't know why they say it doesn't. Oh, I'm sure people get concussed as fuck wearing the headgear. Yeah. don't know why they say it doesn't but oh i'm sure people get concussed as fuck wearing the head gear because it's you know but but it's probably not as much so as if they'd gotten hit with a

glove on a on bone and skin in mma sparring like there's a certain um gentlemanly aspect to it right like i'm not dropping elbows on you i'm not hitting you with everything i have most of the time uh because it's just sparring, relax. Like this isn't a fight fight. We're both here trying to get better. And if you're not a good training partner, then that's like a scarlet letter that's on you. You want to be known as a guy who's good, but safe. In boxing, they bring in fresh meat and they just tear through people. And if Tyson knocks a guy out in practice he doesn't care about that person they're not teammates he's a hired hand yeah and i wonder

if in boxing they hold anything but like i wonder how the difference is there does tyson just old school tyson just unload on people and break it with like like with no humanity to it god i bet they were paying those guys four or five hundred bucks a day too like i bet they weren't getting like they're not getting anywhere near what we would want to go in there and get and get get our crumple zones tested against a mike tyson get all your ribs fucking cracked get your fucking ear exploded or something if he doesn't eat it i watched this like 10 second clip 15 second clip of tyson and john jones just messing around right john jones people listening he's considered one of the best

fighters ever i gotta think about him being on steroids but he's one of the most accomplished mma fighters ever that is undeniable. Never lost a fight? Basically true. Anyway, he's there with Mike Tyson and they're just in a street or something. They look like they were maybe at an event. Tyson throws this combo at Jon Jones twice. Then the third time

he comes up with what would have been a freaking destroyer of an uppercut if i recall and i'm like oh my god those first two he was teaching john jones like what to do he's like read this read this you think that's, don't you? And then it was – and everyone watching was like, whoa. Like, look what Tyson just did to Jon Jones. He would have wrecked him. He's so good. He was so good. It was amazing.

And then, of course, like on that fight card, Ortega and Max Holloway fight. And I was worried about Max Holloway. I'm typing to people who... Oh, yeah. He was a two-to-one underdog going into that. A lot of talk about that. Yeah. And I'm typing to some people who had never seen Max fight,

and I'm like, if we get 100% Max, he's going to come out like a fucking madman, and he's going to be all over him all fight long, and it's going to be fun to watch. But if we get a diminished Max, he's going to be all over him all fight long and it's going to be fun to watch but if we get a diminished max he's going to get taken down to the ground and he's going to cry after this because he is not i this is going to be real rough on him to lose this belt after these two rough little like after these weight cutting incidents where he's had these concussion like symptoms and had to be taken off cards and stuff. And he's had a rough time lately.

He came out 100% max, though. And he, I want to say he hit him 650 times. I think that was the number I read. Like, not an exaggeration. I don't mean he hit him 300. I'm saying 600. It was like 650 significant strikes from max onto Ortega's head, neck, face, and body area. He was destroyed

at the end of it, like a golem. And it was great. As round four is starting, he looks at Rogan, he's like, this is the round. And the co-announcer goes, what did he say? He just said, this is the round. And he came out like a monster. Just bop did it go to the it ended after the fourth right he was right like like when the doctors look at him after that round after the fourth where he

had said this is the round they were like oh no no he's done dude he's done there's been some talk about that stoppage so everyone agrees the doctor was right to stop it. Dana White went there, did his post-fight scrum thing, and he's like, I want to commend those doctors. They saved him. Brian Ortega was saying that he's like, I'm glad the doctor stopped. And he was like, I was willing to die in there. I had no quit.

I'm just coming back, et cetera. But he wasn't gonna win right it became clear after the fourth that he that like winning just that wasn't in the cards that wasn't it wasn't gonna be his night but his corner was still trying to push him to go fight and that's where i think the controversy is like the corner wasn't looking out for him they were like ah you know god maybe this time you know it's like no way man they weren't seeing what we were seeing for sure because like like i said the first two rounds especially were quite competitive i thought now don't get me wrong ortega was getting his face dotted left and right like max's right hand was so accurate he just had

it whenever he wanted it it doesn't have a ton of power on it but it's got they're adding up yeah we're it's we're at 60 punches all right we're at 150 punches all right now he's taking 250 of these like it doesn't matter that he's not knocking his block off with every one because he's going to hit you with a hundred of them every round literally. And by round one and two, Ortega was threatening those takedowns and I was worried about Max going to the ground.

Especially against Ortega, who's very talented there. But like I was saying before the show, he just pushed that head down, wiggled his hips a little bit, popped out. Those light punches are it. When I did... I'm not a good boxer, but when I was doing my boxing, my coach would be like, you know, I can see you loading up that right.

I can see you wait. You think you're going to hit me with that, right? And in my head, I'm like, how can he see me do that? I'm just, I'm trying to be the same me. That's yeah. Right. It's not like, um, you know, like, all right, boys. I was just like, but he's right. He's right.

I'm just like, you know, tap the left, tap the left, tap the left. Please, please, where's my right opening? It's never coming. And he would explain. He's like, in boxing, you don't knock a guy out with one punch. You chop him down. He's like, you got to be chopping him down. Max is a goddamn lumberjack. I swear to God.

There was rarely a point where you saw Max pause and have both hands up and neither one of them reading thrown. It seemed like he was constantly left, right, left, right. This is Max's fighting style. It's like a kid. It's just like both hands alternating on your face for 20 minutes. It was very fun to watch, and it opens up so many possibilities for Max going forward.

Everybody's saying it should go to 155, and literally any fight at 155 is a cool fight for him, no matter who he fights. And then, of course, they're saying, shit, Conor could drop down to 145. That'd be insane. Yeah, I would watch that. Conor's old as fuck now.

Conor's done. Connor is so over. He's lost three out of his last four, if you count the Mayweather fight. The only win he has is a very narrow victory over Nate Diaz. List all the other people you think Nate Diaz beats. At 155? Yeah.

Oh. Dude. I don't know. It's a weird matchup. He's not elite. I think at 155 like like like connor doesn't have as much issue as he has he had with nate i think a 170 pound nate's a real monster anyway you know connor's the guy who used to cut to 145 that is a fair counterpoint so at 170

i i think iaquinta would have a whole lot of trouble with nate i think uh poirier might have trouble with nate at 170 but at 155, the tables are turned quite a bit. I don't know. I think we need to see Conor's next fight before we count him out. I think he could do a lot of things. Conor's coach is dropping him. Well, I don't know what to make of that. I don't know what to make of

all that. I feel like they're scurrying shit. Let me tell the audience. He told him that if he was going to coach him for his next fight, he would really have to be talked into it. It's not an automatic yes. He would need to be convinced that it's a good idea. When I heard, I feel like he's just stirring up media drama.

The way he talks about Conor is almost disrespectful. Like, hey, everyone gets older. Even Superman slows down after a while. Maybe you should stop. You've got all the money you need. Kavanaugh always paints this picture of Conor's career being done-zo. And Conor hasn't looked like Conor in a while now. I think we need to see one more fight out of Conor.

And I can start to lean in your direction if he came out and looked bad against a Poirier or he looked bad against a Holloway or something like that. But I still think that he has an end to beat both of those guys. Holloway is... I'm trying to curse less in my life, but Holloway is a motherfucker. If Conor looks good against Holloway at 155,

I was wrong. But I think Conor gets pieced up by Holloway. And now we're looking at a guy who's lost four out of his last fights and we're like, are you still trying to pretend you're elite? I think holloway would have a hard time getting that volume of punches on connor the way i feel like connor is much much

more elusive than or and ortega like connor doesn't get hit 500 times in a fight that ain't gonna happen and it's not like he's got a glass jaw you know he could take some punishment nate pummeled him for five rounds and connor just spit blood and kept coming. He had a glass jaw on the first Nate fight. I don't want to call it a glass jaw. I've watched it. I've heard experts. He really did just blow his wad early. He came out super hard. He won two rounds

of that fight. He won the first round, if I recall correctly. Conor was not without his good moments in that loss. We'll see. The real problem is Habib Nurmagomedov I, I, Connor was not without his good moments in that loss, but yeah, I will see the, the, the real problem is Habib Nurmagomedov and, and the special skillset that he has.

And I think they're going to have to, you're going to have to go in there with a weapon or something. You might, you might have to go in there, arm to the teeth or something. I want to see an, I want to see him fight Ben Askren real bad. They canceled the Anaheim card that was coming up.

And, uh, and so I think that the, I think the Askren Lawler fightler fight got pushed to March 2nd, something like that, which is lame as shit. And Askren's old. I want to hurry this up. Like, come on, Askren's got days left.

Yeah. You know how old Connor is? Is he 30 or 32? 30, I think. I want to say 30 for some reason. You're right, 30 until July, want to say 30 for some reason. You're right. 30 until July. So he's 30.

Yeah. And he's a... Yeah. I still think Conor has everything it takes to... I think Conor has everything it takes to beat most of the 155ers. And shit, I'd love it if he dropped down to 145 and took Max's belt. That'd be fucking hilarious. I agree he could probably beat most of the 155ers, like most of the roster.

But the question is how he does against the top five. If Conor McGregor is all of a sudden the ninth best guy in the division. Oh, that's not the case. Probably not. We need to see him fight somebody, though. We need to see him fight one of these guys. We need to see him fight off Tony Ferguson. We need to see him fight one of these guys. We need to see him fight off Tony Ferguson. I think everyone's outlook changes immediately.

He beats Tony Ferguson. If he beats Poirier, I don't think we've necessarily changed unless he goes in there and just puts on a clinic. Unless he gets in there and he's just bouncing in and out, just sniping him with the left and putting his hands behind his back. Like, come on, Poirier, you're supposed to be better now. Better than the last time, right? Pop, pop, pop, pop. Have another left. Have another behind his back like come on poirier you're supposed to be better now better than the last time right pop pop pop pop have another left have another lip oh come on get up off the ground i'm not coming down there come on he pulls one of

those on poirier then maybe you're impressed and your stock rises but he really needs to beat tony or he needs to beat um yeah he needs to be tony in my opinion that that's the fight for me he's a little better i'm looking at these fights, and I think Conor's... I'm not giving him enough credit. Number one is Khabib. So let's just... He just lost that. Number two is Tony. I think he loses to that.

Number three, Poirier. I don't know that he... Conor beats Poirier. Number four is Conor himself. Then Kevin Lee. That's an interesting fight. I think Conor beats Gatsky. Number four is Connor himself. Then Kevin Lee. That's an interesting fight. I think Connor beats Gatsky. I think he beats Eddie Alvarez.

He already did once. He already beat... No, he didn't beat Barboza. Khabib did, but I think that he could. Pettis. Yeah, I think he lights Pettis up. Yeah, I think he beats Pettis. I don't know. I'm not as sure about Poirier.

Whatevs. Poirier's a scary guy. That's why they were talking about that fight as being one of the ones that could happen. Poirier's a scary guy. He hits fucking hard. I don't think he's got enough speed to deal with Conor, but there's a reason they actually have the fights happen. And don't listen to me and you.

Yeah. No one should do that. No. Well, I watched Paik Killer nearly and apparently no reason to have most of the fights anymore. This guy, Woody Gamertag, he says Connor's washed up. Yeah, we caught him. We caught him. Dude, what'd you do with the weather? Did you get any snow?

Did you get any just rain? Rain, a little rain. Just ignored it. I like it when it rains. I sleep better. Dude, what'd you do with the weather? Did you get any snow? Did you get any just rain? Rain. A little rain. You know, just ignored it. I like it when it rains. I sleep better. We got some, I think places near me got eight inches of snow. But us, it was like maybe four and then it rained afterwards.

So it dropped down to two or so. Yeah, we got nothing. We've been spending most of our time anticipating another pathetic meal fucking anthony's been getting the uh the wrath of the subreddit i guess because like he didn't like immediately come back so here's what happened with anthony for anyone who doesn't know he uh he he drives for like uber eats or some something like that to like make ends meet as best he can right and it's it's a real shitty job for him because like he'll put like 25 with the gasoline in his car and go out and like earn 30 like shit like that all the time like he's

always hoping that someone will cancel so he'll have their food to eat and um you know he didn't have enough money to buy to buy sticks to put in the corn dogs the other night right like he has a rough time so like he was gonna do a pathetic meal he doesn't like them being called pathetic meals apparently by the way he was gonna do a meal he needs to embrace that right oh the branding is like i'm a branding stickler and this is so perfect what does he want to call him epic uh pathetic kitchen or something like that. I don't know. Oh, I assumed it was the pathetic part that didn't sit right with him. He's okay with that.

I think it is. And he also didn't like, I think maybe when I was a little drunk on the show, I said that he had Asperger's. I don't think he liked that. But in any case, he had a car accident. He had a car accident. Oh, no. Yeah. he had a car accident oh no yeah he like he's he like swerved in swerved is probably the wrong

word but he like merged into someone and blew one of his tires out and that's a huge expenditure for him and so he couldn't do the fight that night he's also gotten like a full-time job now at a major company somehow i don't know and they're turning him loose with it like if i said the company it you'd know it. It's one of the biggest companies in the world. Can you write it? Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's these guys.

Okay. So he kept having these issues. One night he had the car accident, and then his internet wouldn't work for a while. It seemed like both times he tried to do it they had internet internet internet issues and they try he actually did it last night you know okay okay first of all on the job thing i'm very curious does he have like a grown-up position there does he have health benefits that's that's one way to distinguish like i don't know okay yeah and i've heard i don't know why I'm telling you because you would know so much more

about this. I've heard on Tinder that's a thing that people ask, like in dating world, do you have health insurance? And it's a proxy for all kinds of like, do you have your life together sort of questions. Do you have health insurance? So I wonder, if he has health insurance... These are the things I concern myself with.

Yeah. If a girl wants to make sure I have my whole life together, she intends on spending way too much time in my life. No, I mean, I just meant that. That's not a question I'm asking. Yeah, yeah. All right. The other thing is,

now you implied that the next pathetic mealtime perhaps was missing some magic. I felt like it was. You know, I felt like Chiz and I were, maybe we're being a little too critical, but it wasn't up to snuff in our opinions. We didn't really like what happened there. felt like it was you know i i felt like chis and i were maybe we're being a little too critical but it wasn't up to snuff in our opinions we didn't we didn't really like what happened there i felt like he was it didn't recapture the magic of the first one i i'm i'm i'm concerned for the future

of pathetic mealtime oh no all right tell me what what did he make corn dogs i'm not even do you boil those in oil is that a deep fry thing yeah thing? Yeah, it's a deep-frying thing. It was my idea, actually, to make the corn dogs, but my idea was corn dogs, French fries, and fried candy. You do the full meal, right? You've got a big thing of boiling oil. Let's do the trifecta. Do you do it in a sauce pot?

I don't know how to picture this. He was doing it in a deep frying pot. It almost looks like a pressure cooker kind of thing, but it's open on top. Yeah, kind of. And out on his porch, of course, again, he's wearing a Twitch onesie. It's purple. He's got a chef's hat on. I'm liking what I'm hearing so far.

I think the issue was he was trying to do a pathetic meal, whereas with the first one, he was just trying to cook, and we were like, that's a pathetic meal. He was putting on a show? Yeah, I felt like he was trying to put on a show, like he was performing, and and that didn't that wasn't as entertaining as as as just watching someone actually enjoy a pathetic meal by themselves on their back porch he you know he was aware that there were hundreds of people watching him hundreds i i would assume so i

didn't watch it live see that's the other thing like people he's getting a lot of hate because people had been he does these at like 5 a.m his time 4 a.m pacific time shit like that so it's like 7 or 8 a.m east coast time and so people are setting alarms people are staying up all night this one guy is like i set an alarm last night i woke up up early. I tune in. Nothing. He's not even on Discord. He's not even online. Like, what the fuck?

I ruined my whole sleeping schedule for this guy. Dude, that's... I have had people stay up late to watch me before in live streaming and stuff. Or maybe... One time I had an early flight. So I live streamed from like 11 to 4 and then just caught my 5 flight. And these guys would be like, Woody, I'm in Sweden right now. I've watched you from midnight to 6 a.m. now. I'm making up numbers.

And I feel honestly honored that someone was watching me all night long, that they thought I was worthy of staying up for. He should take that seriously, is what I'm saying. He does, he does. He's been really stressed out, and it's really bothered him um a lot of the hate that he has gotten especially about the delays um i i you know i'm not gonna bother him about it anymore if he wants some direction from me he can he can ask for it um but but he seems to want to like do things on his own i have ideas i was i was

i was like i was like look middy if you want to be a pathetic his own. I have ideas. I was like, look, Mitty, if you want to be a pathetic chef, I will hook you up right now. You ever hear of chili surprise? He's like, what? I was like, that's when you put a can of chili on a burner, and we don't know when it's going to explode, but it's going to live on Twitch, and

you got to have the bread and everything else just ready to catch the exploding, boiling chili. I like that idea. I once had a similar idea. I was going to take a Samsung 8 and charge it on live stream for who knows how long. That was the one that exploded and caught fire. Yeah, just put a camera on that baby, live stream it indefinitely until she blows.

Yeah. We'll see what happens with that at i i don't know that the second one is up there on anthony's channel if anyone wants to watch it he's making corn dogs he did he couldn't even afford the sticks for the corn dogs that's great that's the core to the corn dog the main oh but the fact that he couldn't afford sticks really is what pathetic mealtime is out is all about i i hear you i hear you but i feel like you should have improvised something even more pathetic like doing nothing is is worse than not having it if he had said look i can't afford sticks i hate that that is true but i looked at them them, and they were 35 cents, and I was like, I just don't have that kind of scratch. So it turns out there's free sticks on every tree out here.

Exactly. Use a real stick. Or how about this? What if he took string and threaded rope through each individual mini corn dog because he did mini corn dogs, and then deep fried the whole mess of them, and when he pulled it up, it was like one of those necklaces with the candy on it that he could wear. I'm picturing it like one of

those chest plates that savage Americans would wear. I hear you. That would be amazing. He did these little mini corn dogs. He just chopped the wieners in half or whatever. I like corn dogs. I hadn't had a corn dog in like 10 years or something, but while I was talking to,

oh, they're tasty. It's delicious. I imagine, yeah. Stick through a wiener and you dip it in this cornmeal and flour and salt and stuff. When I eat, well, a lot of it is snobbery based. You know, corn dogs,

they just don't go into a temple like this. I don't mean to say. And that's the thought that keeps me one step behind Wings I guess I haven't seen anything out of Wings lately I don't know what's going on with him I haven't even watched the highlight channels anymore

the troll channels he's not, they've gotten a little trolly I would argue that a year ago that's just who he was now they've gotten a little trolly i would argue that a year ago that's just who he was now they really do try to grab his lows and put them out there yeah for sure i caught its new there was a new single that came out the other day the plump pimp uh plump pimp was pretty good you know okay just that a little bit while we while we game sometimes i feel like when they're too big on the music and not enough on the lyrics right

sure you need to dial down that music in the you can find some free beat on youtube that's royalty free and just play it low because i want to hear what you have to say you don't even have to be that good at rapping just be funny do a pair one of the one of the guys that i uh i play games with when whenever we're in the call of duty lobby there's like an all chat that all 100 players can see and he'll type in there like something about Wings either he'll ask them if anyone, hey does anyone know Wings of Redemption does anyone watch Wings of Redemption

or sometimes he'll pretend like Wings is dead he'll be like rest in peace to Wings of Redemption a real Call of Duty OG press F to pay respects and I'm going to say at least half the lobbies, like not say at least half the lobbies, not every lobby, but half the lobbies out of just a 100-player sampling from

the current Call of Duty audience know him. They know him every single time. People will be like, what? Wings died? And you know they're going to his channel right now to see if he's alive or what. And they're probably Googling Wings of Redemption dies, and they're getting all those old videos from when we faked his death.

And it's like, holy shit, he's dead. There's Kyle saying it. It's pretty ridiculous how many people know Wings and know of Wings and know something about him. It's not always positive, but they know him. Yeah, he is well known. And he's an OG. He's infamous. Yeah.

Did you ever watch that White Boy highlight video where supposedly he trolled wings? And then when we watched it, there really wasn't any trolling in the first minute or two. You know, White Boy can be with titles. He wants to get your attention. Okay. All right. So, yeah. Because it really made it seem like he mistreated wings.

And that would be treason of some sort. He's always been the guy who backs wings well not always but he has been for the last few years yeah yeah he i guess i i don't know i don't know their personal history back and forth god knows what wings thinks it is because he has his own versions of history he can yeah yeah um yeah i don't know I should watch a highlight video or a troll video and see what's new with him yeah

I don't know what I don't know what Sean Ranklin's up to these days I haven't checked in a while but I I feel like the magic is stalling it's Lexapro baby

it's just it's good for Wings' health it's bad for the viewers well that Lexapro uh you know stops working so you have that to look forward to after a while your body builds up a tolerance tolerance for that sort of thing those ssris or whatever they're called and uh you know maybe we'll get a resurgence of uh of old wingsings of Redemption.

Oh, I saw the other night, for some reason, Gangster Granny burst into the room. He called her into the room or something like that at like 2 in the morning. And she comes in in her nightgown with her teeth out and no bra. It was what you'd expect. I hope so. In my dreams, do you remember that one time on the show when wings broke his door open yeah i wanted her to do that that would be just amazing gangster grandma kicks the door open what do you need water oh order didn't she call him by a different name one time yeah there's a whole conspiracy about that or something say it's sam what where did richard

come from i don't know where richard came from someone just started calling him richard you know i i think i think honestly probably where it came from is like i people were trolling him in in mean ways and i as sort of a way to explain how trolling worked i was like look this is how trolling actually works you find something little something innocuous and you harp on it and you get it wrong on purpose and that drives people up the wall i was like what about that photo behind him just ask him if that's his dad just ask him who it is so he has to answer the same question over and over and so that became a whole thing i was like get his name wrong pretend like his name's pete or bill or tom or something like that he'll hate that and people just started kind of doing it but yeah gangster grandma came in and i've heard the clip two or three times now um and i don't know if there's some audio thing

going on or whatever but it seems like she comes in and says sam my shit stinks oh i think i've heard that but it's it's hard to make out. You can't be fully confident that's what she said. It's a Pruder film. You're like, I don't know. Is there a puff of smoke? I don't know. I fear for Gangster Grandma because

she's She's looking healthy. Is she? Because not to me. No. Okay. Okay. I thought that she had a sudden improvement. She's been doing yoga and eating right. Juicing.

Moisturizing a lot. She's got a new friend group that are her age and they keep her active and motivated and laughing. For a fraction of a second, I was really relieved to hear that Gangster Grandma's health had taken a turn for the better. No.

Gangster Grandma is, I'm sure, smoking a pack of Marlboro Light 100s a day and wondering why the curtains are brown and eating fried food and selling... I hate to even use the words, and eating fried food and selling... I hate to even use the words, but someday when she passes,

Wings is going to really struggle. Yeah. He was talking about that recently. I want to say he teared up talking about... He was like, I think she's got maybe five years left. Like he's having that conversation on stream. Okay.

Because it could be five years he's not crazy five days yeah yeah she does not she's not looking healthy she looks like a mixture between the crypt keeper and yoda my um my mother-in-law of course she passed about a year ago uh her she had cancer and they were predicting how well she'd do based on that. And what you really, really want is a schedule. Let me know how healthy she'll be on different time, on the timeline. What can we expect next month? What can we expect next year? What can we expect next week?

And they got that kind of wrong like it was almost any day now thing for months you know we thought it was the day sometimes and then they'd hydrate her and she'd go for another month you know and uh there were yeah bladder infections and broken hips and the whole thing and it was just like it was never she was going to be okay okay you know there was there like that that option wasn't on the menu it was just how well she was going to do until the end and at the very end it was like you know we think she has two weeks and then then they're like, well, it could be tomorrow. And we're like, whoa. And then that lasted for like seven days.

And it was just, it's pretty brutal. Yeah, mortality is no joke. No fun. Yeah. We all must face it. Right. Well, I know mine will be sudden,

you know, as suddenly as you can fall from 3,000 feet. I just imagine like you get that Walter White news. You're like, let's see how high this bad boy can go.

Dude, a helicopter flew under me tonight. Like that was a thing. Yeah, not exactly under. He was probably like 500 feet over, but under exactly under he was probably like a 500 feet over but under and uh he was really low he was like no about you because that's a scary thing

if he didn't right i've had flights where i was pretty sure they came over to see me because i'm an oddity in the sky and i've had flights where i'm pretty sure they didn't know i was there and him i don't know like he was just going where he was going. I saw him. That's a silly hobby you've signed up for. It is scary. It seems like

the sort of thing you do for a weekend and then you're like, I did it! You can never take that away from me! Anytime there's a sunny day you're like, and i'm doing it again hope a big goose doesn't decide today is my time i did skydiving like you're talking about i did it i tried it it was a blast i did the tandem version the you know the gay course yeah yeah um it's they talked me into it like this they're like you have your choice you can take like an all-day ground course

where they teach you for something like eight hours to to do it and then when you go i think there's one or two instructors like holding your arms so that you remain flat in a good position and you toss you shoot and you flare and you land that's one choice the other is like you see those planes running like every 10 minutes you could be on the next one like that's it they did you hop on a scale they give you a little like i don't even think i wore a uniform they just give you like some goggles and a helmet no i wore a uniform because you clip in and they give you something to put on and there it is like 10 minutes later we're going up me and my uh i'll call him an instructor like the guy knew what he was doing. Like comparing out.

What'd you call him? My top, right? We're comparing altimeter watches like 10 minutes later. Like we're just, there's the training. I think I've told this before, but it still shocks me. They tell you what you need to know seconds before you need to know it. Right? Like before we jumped off a plane, that was like a minute in advance um

like that he was gonna pull the chute there was no he was making various hand signals that meant nothing to me throughout the flight he's like and i'm like yeah you know i just giving him thumbs up and stuff he's like yeah you're like i didn't know i don't know i didn't know i uh yeah i had this anxiety about the shoot going out the whole time i think you're supposed to call it a canopy and everything because i've only done one other thing like it which was throwing a reserve shoot from a paraglider yeah and reserve shoots are different they're much bigger and they're really designed to stop in a hurry now right and you might be i might be, I threw mine at 70 feet, right? It's now.

You got to get that thing going. But these other, they have thousands of feet to slow down. So that thing opens slowly, and it's rumbling before it goes, and it's batting around. And I was just like, is this normal? And then the way that it sort of rumbles, the deceleration is slow and okay. I thought we were going to go from terminal velocity to nothing

in a strong pull, but it wasn't like that. Yeah, I would have taken the same option unless I were going to be like a long-term skydiver or something like that. But even then, I think your first time, just like, yeah, Stratman, let's see if I even like this shit. It's not even lame. Yeah, I was thinking about getting certified.

Again, I do these things called SIV courses, and they teach you like acro maneuvers or disaster recovery maneuvers on a paraglider. Anyway, when you throw your reserve, it can go wrong, because you've still got a tangled, bundled up stall ball of a wing above you. So if you throw your reserve and it goes into the wing, then your reserve doesn't work.

Or maybe you're in a position where you're like spiraling out of control. You throw your reserve and before it inflates nice, it gets wrapped up in the other one. So you're kind of fucked. That's why I have two reserves. Another option is you can have it on a pull cord where your wing goes and it pulls out the other reserve and makes it nice. But to be a guy who uses that, like, shouldn't you know something about skydiving and steering and jumping? It's pretty much base jumping. They use a base jumping reserve.

So I was like, well, maybe I'll get 25 jumps or so and make an educated decision. Maybe. Maybe I'll get 25 jumps or so and make an educated decision. Maybe. I don't know if this interests you at all, but apparently Wings teased a video of his surgery on a recent stream, and I think there's some little clips in here of him in Mexico. As I'm scrolling through, it buffers or whatever,

and I see him with some of his other fat people, and I see him in a gown. I see the bill. Do you do you know like a time i maybe i should watch shit i don't know um oh so i'm at one minute he's showing off what picture of the hospital showing off oh it's just a still show photo yeah it's well no it's video at the hospital okay at 59 seconds it had I think it was a still. Because it was a JV. Yeah, he skips around. He shows little clips.

It looks like he filmed a lot of stuff. Like, poorly. And there's little clips of, like, hospital beds. I don't know. Here's a picture of him with two big girls. I saw that. You know what? They weren't, like, hotties. With our driver. I just imagine picture of him with two big girls. I saw that. You know what? They weren't like

hotties, but I... I just imagine that was a good time for wings. Like, I picture it like this. I used to watch... I have this too loud. I used to watch a Discovery Channel show about little people, midgets. Are you familiar?

Oh, I was really hoping you were going to say you watched a show where, like, a piglet got to hang out with some wild boar or something like that so so uh there's the both parents are little people and i think maybe half the kids are so the little people in the past all their high school days and such are you know not popular there's side show people are nice to them they're used to them but it's not their thing but then they go to a little people convention and at the little people convention he's like a ladies man he's a player he's got like one of the best kinds of dwarfism or something i might be using the terms wrong that sounds good and uh, you know, he's just, like, cleaning up with the ladies.

So I thought that was, like, kind of cool. Wings at, like, a bariatric surgery thing. There's a parallel there, right? He could be cleaning up with the ladies. He could be on his game. Maybe. Those girls look at wings like a snack. I think the actual story was that one of those girls died i think you just made that up in an attempt to see if i'll believe anything i'm like 95 sure that like the story was that one of those girls had died like since then

of you know some sort of fat people illness i can't tell if you're doubling down some sort of some sort of fat people illness. I can't tell if you're doubling down. Some sort of, some sort of gravity related. Here's wings in the wheelchair on, uh, on my screen. It's,

um, three 48 for me. Yeah. They're pushing them back. I see. It's a, it's a full sized man's wheelchair. It is.

My nurse is kind of cute's wheelchair. It is. My nurse is kind of cute. Yeah, and strong. She does that all day. She's like one of those farmers that throws A-bells all day. She rolls around the super obese all day. Her calves, her shoulders, they're just yolk.

Looking at the jello and muscle milk. Dude, Wings is losing weight, though. Yeah, man. I mean, he shouldn't physically be able to not lose weight at this point. Here's him holding a baby at 4 minutes and 40. Yeah, I skipped ahead. Whose baby is it? Is it his sister's?

God, I don't know. I saw someone on the subreddit say Wings' sister ahead a bit. Or 31. Whose baby is it? Is it his sister's? I don't know. I saw someone on the subreddit say, Wing's sister had a kid. And I think we had a bet on it. Someone said we bet $100. And that does not sound like a Kyle Woody bet. Usually we bet between one and five. Maybe 100 pesos.

You're right. Oh, God. If you skip to, Go to six minutes. Okay. Oh, this is the very... Hi. You know anybody named Sam? Uh-uh.

Well, I don't know anybody named Sam. Do you know anybody named Richard? No. I don't know anybody by Richard. Is my real name Jordy? Jordy, old Jordy. Your real name is Jordy. Yeah.

Okay. That's a fake grandma. He woke this woman up in the dead of night to interrogate her about what his real name is. Did you ever call me Sam? I'll tell you what, though. I hear what you're saying. Their relationship is so wholesome to me. He really loves her.

For sure. He is so happy to have her in his life. And I think they're good for each other. Well, I don't know about that. But, you know, it's good that they have each other. Yeah. Rather than no one at all. I, um... yeah i rather than no one at all i um it there's a bad day coming and i and i hate that that is the truth

yeah yeah there was a time when we didn't know which one would die first though at least but you know he's now with that surgery yeah i think he'll outlast her i think so i think so and it was also apparently had wendy's chili or something at one point or another and boogie came to his defense you know like yeah he needs to be having that he needs to get his protein he's at risk of like bone weakening or something and you don't want that. So, yeah. I don't know. Poor guy. Mostly poor guy.

He's also earned some of the frustration that people have with him, too. I forget that. It's easy, too. It's easy, too. It is. After you watch one of those clips jesus jesus i'm glad that's not me dude one of my pair of friends has gotten totally addicted into like

pka highlights pka wings of redemption highlights he is just like i because to me i don't know that a lot of new people really like dive into the ecosystem that we have here surrounding PKA. Yeah, there's definitely a meta. You can't do something for this many thousands of hours without there being some fun stuff and some communal jokes and stuff. And I have another pair of friend who's like, the PKA subreddit is hard to get. It's all inside jokes and this and that i didn't even realize how true that was yeah you know it seems like just a random bunch of collection of nothingness and weirdness and pictures a lot of

subreddit a lot of subreddits that way i guess though you know like like yeah i'm trying to think um like some ofs is all meta. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you really got to know some GIF-making users. Yeah, right? Like, I don't know these people. This has 8,000 upvotes. How did this happen?

This is about four Reddit users and how good they make GIFs. That's what this is all about, set to, like, Star Wars. Like, which one's Obi-Wan? I don't get it. So much it's way too meta. And yet it'll be incredibly popular. I like it when they complain about it being meta. Somehow that's funny to me. Yeah.

Yeah, and then Dick Butts did their thing. What were you going to say? Call of Duty did that thing I was talking about that they should do. They added the armor repair system so that people can actually get into the aggressive and not worry about their armor getting

destroyed. Now you pick up these armor shards exactly like I was talking about and you fix your armor and you go about your day. They just did that. Kyle and I have been gaming too much. Not today. We didn't game at all. Borderlands? Yeah. Borderlands lately.

Left 4 Dead 2 before that. Oh, we did that map that we did with the Patreon. And it took us two tries. Yeah. You know, I've been... Taylor caught the bug, though. Taylor's on board.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, I've been looking at yeah i've been looking at like builds for him showing how much everything's going to cost you know i think he was pretty surprised at just how expensive it will be to get started in this thing because he doesn't have anything right no peripherals no keyboard no mouse no headset no um no camera independent front he uses a laptop camera um Everything will have to be bought. He'll need two monitors. Oh, is he going to live stream? Is that what we're talking about?

Or just play? Well, he'd want one whole setup, right? That's got everything in it. And potentially live stream. He'd like to have that ability, I'm sure. But just to play PC games with us, he needs thousands of dollars for the things. A desk. All of the things he is really

starting from scratch yeah yeah i was like 1500 and you can get a pre-built like 1070 based gaming pc that's what i got colin and uh in hindsight i think that turned out to be a pretty good move because a lot of the best best you know the best co-op games i know of are kind of older yeah um so we're playing borderlands in the 1070 is just fine. The 680T, I played that just fine. But if you want to play the newest stuff, I guess there's more to it. And then it seems like if you play competitive games, everyone turns the effects down.

You still don't need... Totally, yeah. Yeah, well, you want more frames then. The thing I threw at him was like, you're going to want to play in 1080p. totally yeah yeah well you want more frames then you know so you know the question the thing i threw at him was like you're going to want to play in 1080p uh it's a question of whether you want 144 frames or you want 200 plus frames or something like that you probably want 1080p 144 frames and you want to be able to like turn your graphics down to like medium low on on new games and and like max that out so you probably want like a 1080p graphics card and a $250, $300.

$250 is the minimum. Ah! For me, I like mine. That's what I want. Chiz plays in 1080. A lot of people do. Shroud plays in 1080. A lot of people do. They want lots of frames. Shroud has

two 2080TIs or something in his rig and he's playing in 1080p you know like okay i yeah no i have 1440 but it's not the 16 by 9 it's the ultra wide 1440 yeah yeah 35 80 by 1440 maybe 38 40 or something yeah i know exactly what you're talking about i've got both i've got um this one is like a standard 25, 60 by 1440. I think like the regular 16 by nine aspect ratio. And then I've got the ultra wide too, that I don't have hooked up at all because I've just gotten onto this one and

like this one, but I like both. I probably the ultra wide is a lot of the games don't support it. You got to go and edit INI files and shit. New games don't, um, fall out. Doesn't the new one one i wouldn't touch the new one unless i were paid to do so yeah okay yeah yeah i don't think the new new one does either i mean

the new new one has like frame rate issues and uh and and all kinds of fuckery i haven't run into a lack of support on it yet but i will say I've live streamed and people hate it. If you're not 16 by nine, you've got to just letterbox it. Yeah. That's, that's why I went to this monitor in particular so that like when I did live stream,

I would be used to this because live streaming the, what the ultra wide was going to be a real bitch and it was going to look like shit and you're going to be letterboxed or you're going to be doing something weird that I didn't want to be part of yeah if you letterbox it then nobody but you knows but it's still not not what you want but but yeah i hadn't thought about it in a while because like every time i upgrade my shit it's like all right let's be a two thousand dollar upgrade or a twenty five hundred dollar upgrade which isn't cheap by any means but taylor's upgrade is like $4,000 maybe?

He was like, shit, I didn't know it was going to be that much. This is ridiculous. I was like, well, you're going to want a mouse, and you're going to want a headset, and you're going to want a mixer to go with that headset, and you're going to want a camera to go with that. We're all ready at about $500, by the way. Then you're going to need a keyboard,

and you're going to need a monitor, and you're going to need a second monitor to look at chat. Then you're going to need a keyboard. And you're going to need a monitor. Then you're going to need a second monitor to look at chat. Then you're going to need a desk to put everything on. And then you're going to need about a $2,300 gaming PC to plug everything into. And it just keeps going and going and going with the peripherals and all the accessories. Now you're going to want a surge protector

because you're not going to plug that expensive shit right into the wall, bro. No. It just keeps going. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If you need a boom mic you know probably keep that thing in the right spot not right in front of you you need it goes on and on oh you're gonna did you get

that shitty lighting you use every week you know fix that if you want to be a live streamer i got a like 120 like led panel i think you've got something fancier, but I'm a big fan of this. Oh, no. Mine's not fancy. I have two lights on either side. They're just lamps with shades on them. Ah. It's a square light that's got those metal doors on either side, so you can change it. And then it's got two sets of LEDs on independent dials, one for white light and one for cold light

and one for warm light. And I just use warm light. I used to have that right in front of me over my monitor. And it wasn't a bad look, but I don't think it was better than this. And it was really hard to tolerate, like to stare into the sun for four hours.

Yeah, I wouldn't want it there. I feel like that would be... It's. Yeah, I wouldn't want it there. I feel like that would be like it's over there. I don't look over there. I don't want to look at it. It's too much. But it's in line with the camera. I look straight on at my camera, which is yeah, it would be a mess. Call it a wrap. Yeah, I think so. By the way, if anyone's curious, Taylor couldn't make it. He was out of town't make it he was out of town we should have said that at the top of the show yeah make him watch the end yeah Taylor had

something that had him out of town for multiple days and we just couldn't work it out this is what you get PKN 225