Painkiller Already - PKN #261

Episode Date: August 30, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 bam started recording you're all dressed nicely what happened at work today taylor oh nothing i just uh you didn't meet with the boss today wasn't promotion day i didn't have a lot of clean shirts okay okay i just went in and this is like a cheap ass shirt off of amazon like maybe two or three years ago i was like i need some i need some just like collared t-shirts and so like the way i shop is like i bought one off of amazon and i was like this is fine like it's not that like the it's a little like shoulders a little too narrow but like 13 i'm not gonna not buy 10 of them. And so now it's just my whole circulation. You don't even – you've got Jackie for your clothes thing.
Starting point is 00:00:48 You're a step ahead. So Jackie and I have been fussing about this lately. What are the shirts I wear that everybody hates? Hollister? Is that right? Hollister, American Eagle, one of those two. Oh. I didn't know they were both hated.
Starting point is 00:00:59 But the Hollister shirts, when they were new, I thought they fit pretty well. Like I thought I looked good in them. Now I hate them. I hate them so much. I did partly because, you know, the internet has rained down fussing about it, but also they don't fit right anymore. And I-
Starting point is 00:01:15 They shrunk, right? They shrunk, yeah. And I have this rack of like, I don't know, 13 of them, 20 of them, like a ton. All of them fit badly. And it looks like I've got 50, 13 of them, 20 of them, like a ton. All of them fit badly. And it looks like I've got 50 shirts to choose from. But first, like, cut down half of them because they're winter shirts.
Starting point is 00:01:31 They're long sleeve of some sort. So they're out. And then like another half of where the remaining are collared shirts that I wear on the show. So they're out. Then I have like 13 ill-fitting Hollister shirts. And I was like, God, thisitting Hollister shirts and I was like yeah this sucks so I tried I put some in the Amazon cart and this is a thing we do in
Starting point is 00:01:50 my family we'll throw them in the cart and then whatever like they just get ordered down the road or maybe you just want to mull it over yeah I do the same thing Jackie said those shirts were ugly and I'm like god they might be ugly but they're tall so I expect them to shrink in like proportions that work. What I hate is that they tend to lose the length and then I don't, they just get really sort of squarish and they make me wide, but yeah, they look like free carnival t-shirts after a while. They're just as boxy and ill fitting.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yes. And that's what they are. But I'm like, if they're long and I feel like they'll shrink into proportions that are good for me. Let's try it. Let's roll the dice. I'm willing to bet $13 in two shirts that this works out. Oh, that's the way I've always golfed.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Instead of learning how to hit the ball straight, I'm like, all right, well, I always look at about 100 yards to the right. So I'm going to aim 100 yards to the left. That's how I did my shirt. Well, that's not how we're going. She took those out of the cart, ordered two different ones, and we're experimenting in that route they'll come tomorrow but yeah if one of them works out if we one of them is amazon basics and the other is something else i don't know uh but there won't be there won't be like notable brands i'm pulling it up right now. Amazon Basics has some good stuff. Amazon Essentials? Essentials, yeah, something like that. Is Gold Toe a thing?
Starting point is 00:03:08 It says Gold Toe Men's. Yeah, they make socks and maybe other stuff. I don't know. I guess green t-shirts as well. Well, anyway, we're about to raise the level of t-shirts in my wardrobe. Usually when I buy shirts on Amazon that aren't just like mass buy shit like this it's like i need to find a flat earther shirt all right i need to find a shirt about bigfoot all right i need to i need to get a shirt that has donald trump with a halo on it
Starting point is 00:03:37 but then i need it also to have one that has obama with a halo on nope they don't make those same shirts so yeah ironic shirts that i never wear off of this show so it's such a waste dude i circle back to that um i want to make it i usually have notes i can write i don't have anything here but um uh the shirt thing well anyway on the what you were talking about with the weird shirt i used to sell shirts that said bitches be crazy and i'd only wear them like at the house or like all sorts of weird dumb stuff i'd film a video and then i'd find myself like picking up the groceries and be crazy shirts and it's like god no i just play
Starting point is 00:04:16 someone else on the internet this this isn't what i really wear oh i've done that for sure i've i was at a gas station the other day like i had gone to Home Depot. And Home Depot, it's so big that I feel like you can almost, because it's all self-checkout with those guns now. It wasn't a busy time. So I felt like I just walked in in my t-shirt and my athletic shorts, grabbed what I needed, and then got out. Didn't even feel like anybody saw me but it wasn't until i got to a gas station and was filling up and i was like i want a red bull or something that sounds good that i like looked in my reflection in my car window my driver window and i saw i was wearing that green there's no place i'd rather be than beaver valley and it's got a naked woman laying down with like tits for mountains and just a clear pussy waterfall and i was like you know what you don't need a red bull that bad i just i forewent it and so i saved myself a little money so maybe that's what i need to do just wear humiliating shirts a listener might watch this and be like just buy quality clothes and i get that that's not crazy mostly but like i saw
Starting point is 00:05:19 cardhart shirts on amazon right i i think of cardhart is a company that makes good clothes especially if you're just looking for t-shirts like that i bet they'll be quality material and pre-shrunk and all that fun stuff yeah but they were like 28 a t-shirt it's just like wowsers you know that you check like carhartt.com no do you think they're cheaper there what a lot of people do on amazon is they'll purchase bulk either from distributors or from the company themselves, give themselves like a really small margin and then just resell it on Amazon. And so like those chips you and Kyle got the whole shebang chip. Is that what it's called? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:06:00 There is a food. Yeah, potato chips for that. You can only get in jail. Oh, yes. Okay, now, yeah, chips. Like those whole shebang chips. I saw somebody on the subreddit a couple weeks ago, because I think you were like, it was $12 for this bag. Fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And the guy was like, turns out they have a website. I went there and I got 12 bags for six bucks or something. And so clearly some asshole is just going to their website buying it and then hosting it either out of his home or a distribution center and making money so yeah i almost always if it's like a name brand double check the website itself that would have been smart their whole living doing that i think just finding used to do something like that. He sold like Western apparel on eBay, like cowboy shoes, cowboy hats, button-down shirts, but there's like a Western style.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I don't know. The buttons are different. Maybe they're snaps. And that's what he did. And I guess there was a market for it. I don't know. There was nothing in the least bit immoral about it. He's just selling stuff on eBay.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I always had it. Good for those people who can run that hustle. Dude. I always had it in my head he was a shoe person. Didn't he sell shoes online or something? You might be right. I don't know. I think I'm right, though.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I think he sold all sorts of Western apparel. Maybe shoes, too. Speaking of nothing immoral, but speaking of immorality have you seen the only use me blade like spicy stuff going on i haven't seen uh i have the only thing i saw is i saw somebody tweet me an image of his leg that's going around yes and it's like like it's it is so much unless somebody's tweeted that at me and said like and people confirmed like this is only using blades like i'd be like no it's not no it's not it's a really old person with diabetes and they're about to lose their foot and they're
Starting point is 00:07:57 probably their lower leg like i i am blown away like he's got open sores that clearly aren't healing because his blood flow is so bad it's like holy fucking shit dude this is real deal you're gonna you are probably at the point where that leg isn't salvageable like you're going to lose your fucking leg unless you go to a doctor and get whatever treatment and they get a full 100 lifestyle change where you're not eating sugary foods and drinking liquor at 8 a.m i was talking to chiz about this online we were just chatting on discord and it's uh raised my awareness that i don't know jack shit about this kind of thing right my legs always have like bruises and cuts on them and stuff but that's
Starting point is 00:08:35 because i've been doing like i i think i was like i've been doing the kind of shit that eight-year-olds do for 40 years now yeah just like you like, you know, a little trauma here and there. Like, yeah, fucked up. Yeah. Just normal. Yeah. But, um, uh,
Starting point is 00:08:48 his were not like that. And, and some, I just, his wounds are so foreign to me. They're not little pieces of trauma. He didn't bang it on a rock here and there. Like,
Starting point is 00:09:00 and I'm like, legs that aren't hit that degrade is a weird thing to me his legs are degrading and i like the coloration is so dark oh that didn't match the two legs that's weird to me but look if you would if someone showed me that and said dude check out what these spider bites did to this guy's leg i'd be like holy that's scary i believe you because it looks like what i would imagine a i had to google necrotic because i didn't really know what it meant and she was like it's not necrotic there's just you know open source that aren't healing i looked it up and uh am i pronouncing it right necrotic yeah it's just when your stuff dies
Starting point is 00:09:40 and he's like you know his he has open source from a lack of circulation and it's like that's not necrotic but again I'm not saying he's wrong just saying I don't know what I'm talking about I have no experience in here but it I don't know wounds that just create on their own and die and open and don't heal what it's that all about is diabetic maybe and it's probably maybe something like that or maybe he's pre-diabetic and he just isn't getting like the alcoholism for so many so many years is getting to him but like like what kind of struck me is like oh fuck this isn't a day one thing it's not like he woke up this morning he was like oh shit gotta get this under control it's like he's been living with
Starting point is 00:10:21 that leg for a long long time looking like that or like it degrees lesser than that. But like that, it's been that way for a while. You don't wake up one morning and it's oh, my God, there's old sores all over my dark colored leg that are that's going to fall off. Which means to me, he's seen this kind of writing on the wall for months, a year. I don't fucking know the timeline, but it's clear that this is a long-term thing that's been happening and progressing, and he doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Like, he's not taking any... I would be terrified if I thought I was going to lose my life. I would want to rephrase doesn't care. It's just that somehow it's not his top priority when for you or I it would be. You know, that pull of the alcohol. The pull of the alcohol has somehow managed to prioritize itself
Starting point is 00:11:05 over even possibly losing a leg or getting diabetes treated. Oh my God. He has a very serious condition that he's not addressing. And I do, I don't know anything. I'm such a jackass about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But I have it in my head. All he needs to do is cure the underlying thing. Stop drinking and the leg snaps back i think i hope i would have i don't i have no idea about like because at one point you are far like too far gone to recover from stuff like that but if it's like a diabetic thing it's probably it's not just the booze it's like he's been drinking and his eating habits have been horrendous for so long.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's not like he's, oh, I'm going to have some vodka shots on this nice Tuesday morning, and then I'm going to have a kale salad with some grilled chicken and a banana. It's like that has gone on with the lifestyle of fuck it pizza, fuck it candy, ice ice cream i'm already in for a penny with this booze may as well be in for a pound with eating whatever the fuck i want and you know have you seen that catches up to you have you seen the sexual assault allegations i think i heard something about it but i haven't looked into it the leg is what i mostly i've looked into it uh i saw all the videos i've seen uh i think i've seen him more than once now. For a start, first thing, I've enjoyed Blade's company for like a decade now. We're not close.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I don't think I've spoken to him for a couple of years. He's a very funny, charismatic guy. Admit my bias out of the gate. I like Blade. I've always liked Blade. I feel like he's on the wrong path right now. We can all see that. But there's my bias.
Starting point is 00:12:45 People are throwing out rape. That's not what rape is. He's gropey, I think. Can you break down what he's accused of or what the story is? So there's this girl. I don't remember her name. They all have names that aren't real. Pixie Diamond.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. She drank too much. names that aren't real. Like, you know. Yeah. Pixie Diamond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She drank too much and she had what was clearly consensual sex with this dude, Bjorn, right? I think the early parts of it are actually filmed and she's on top of him and he's undoing her bra and that's just, that's what consensual sex looks like, right? So that went down. And sex or not, whatever, she was clearly consensually sex looks like right so that went down and sex or not whatever she was
Starting point is 00:13:26 clearly consensually fooling around with the dude and then he the dude and blade are sort of up front in the rv and blades like you know i'm tired i'm gonna go kick it lay back there under the covers right and he lays it out like the draw back there is not this passed out drunk girl, but the covers, right? Oh, just getting some rest. Just getting some rest. I need some Zs. That's the real attraction back there.
Starting point is 00:13:55 The passed out girl? I could take her or leave her. He's pretty drunk at the time. Yes, yes. He's drunk at the time, and it's impacting his decision making, but not excusing it. That's how drunk at the time. Yes, yes. He's drunk at the time. And it's impacting his decision making but not excusing it. That's how drunk works. Yeah. And so he goes back there and the chat goes wild.
Starting point is 00:14:12 The chat is like, Bjorn, you can't allow this. Do not let this just happen back there. Don't be a passive, I don't know, bystander while he's back there doing bad things. So he goes back there and kind of pulls her up front. And then I hope I read this all from... Takes the passed out girl and is like, alright, just come sleep in the chair next to me up here. That kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Don't you wish. No, instead he says, Blade, you should come out of this bed. He does. Briefly. Blade acts like he didn't get up because Bjorn told him to. It was like, I had to pee. And then he goes back to the girl. And it's like, just take a break here. Hypothetical single tailor doesn't climb into bed with a passed out girl, right?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Like, you don't even want to be accused of bad things that happen there. You don't jump into bed with girls that are passed out. Like, that's bad behavior. I've had it happen there. You don't jump into bed with girls that are passed out. That's bad behavior. I've had it happen before. I've been at a house party at my friend's and he's like, one of those things where it's like we're underage or whatever and it was like, alright, well there's a bunch of mattresses around and shit so everybody just goes to sleep wherever.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Now I like, at the time was like, I'm pretty drunk but if I go to bed a little earlier, I'll get a mattress instead of the hardwood floor. And so I went up there and I found a mattress and I fell asleep on like a full that was laying on the ground. And I woke up and there was a she wasn't still drunk because it was the morning, but she was asleep next to me. Just some girl I didn't know. Really? It clearly come up a little later that night
Starting point is 00:15:45 and taken half the bed and i was like even then like like getting over to hangover was like man if i had pulled what you pulled that would not be chill like i i agree there's a double standard there and and i i agree with everything you said but i i wouldn't have done it i wouldn't have climbed into bed with a passed out chick for fear of the accusation, maybe. But he did more than once. And the stream is going wild with these Rage accusations. Is it just him and Bjorn? And then the girl?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Well, Bjorn is in the front of the RV, it seems. And then there's a door that closes the bed, makes it private, that Blade keeps coming and going from. So Blade goes back there. But like, Bjorn is the only guy who can stop him from doing this. There's nobody else on the bus. I think so. I'm also not sure if maybe the RV is moving
Starting point is 00:16:34 and there's a driver who's just not part of the story. Yeah. But anyway, to move this along, Bjorn goes back there a second time and you can, I think, pretty clearly see Blade's hand under the covers,
Starting point is 00:16:51 pulling away from her undercarriage. It's hard to say what's going on. Exactly, it's under the covers. But that's the thing. Doesn't look good. Right? It's not a good look. And then he's acting like he's sleeping,
Starting point is 00:17:04 and he was... It's like, right it's not a good look and then uh you know he's acting like he's sleeping and you know he was into it's like oh yeah woe is me huh yeah funny you just walked in didn't notice until this moment not the moment it's bright and uh i think he's got a hard on because he he walks out with like a blanket over his waist like man it's so cold back there so cold cold cold like you wouldn't believe uncomfortably cold and Bjorn goes back and checks it out he's like I don't know man the air-conditioner is not on I don't know what to make a little half an erection but you're holding that blanket up with your cock i distinctly remember her also going to bed with clothes on and that's the that's pretty the core of it he sort of comes in and out
Starting point is 00:17:54 and they're talking about like rape look that unless i'm misunderstanding what rape is that's sexual assault you know it's like a lower grade of rape and um and blade is very offended that that he's being painted with this picture right now that that people are saying he's a sexual assaulter and he's like she's trying to ruin my life i haven't seen her talk about this at all she says she just has no memory of the night uh it's it's all the people who are on the stream people doing like almost mr. Medeker-style videos, clipping together one sequence after the other. And he's in a lot of hot water.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And again, to me, Chiz disagreed, but this was like a downstream effect of being drunk. What did Chiz think? That it was like... Chiz, he said something something if i don't want to miss paint him but something along the lines of like alcohol just brings out the true you maybe magnifies who you actually are and uh i'm like i don't know disagreed with that take alcohol changes like if you're that drunk changes pretty much everything about you
Starting point is 00:19:01 changes your sense of humor changes the way you speak. I just thought that was like a smooth brain take where it's like, you know, you get drunk and you see what someone really is. Like, aha, she's been a vomiting idiot the whole time. Well, like he was like, you know, maybe people that turn violent are actually just a little bit violent, but inhibited. And then their inhibitions are gone after drinking.
Starting point is 00:19:24 People who are rapey are maybe like rapey in their core, but you take those inhibitions away. But I don't necessarily think that it just magnifies the true you. I think it can have all kinds of weird effects. Yeah, but definitely those bad things with inhibitions, that's true. To me, I brought up the example of the Chiz privately.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I was in my early 20s, maybe. Maybe I was a college freshman or something. And we drank and like 10 of us were naked around a block, a city block and back into the house. Woo-hoo, so naughty. But I'm not a flasher. I don't think that it brought out the true me. It just brought up bad decision-making, right?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Oh, yeah. like it just brought up bad decision making right like oh yeah and uh you know i think that blade's bad decision making is a downstream effect of the alcohol just like the legs are and it's like what does rock bottom have to be for him right like you get a hundred thousand people accusing him of sexual assault you got his legs rotting off. I'm not a doctor, but that's what I'm seeing. Doesn't look good. And it's like, what? What do you need?
Starting point is 00:20:32 You know, you go to those. I've never been to one, but I'm told you go to those AA meetings and you hear the stories of what they did. And it's like, oh, my God, can you believe it? Blade has, oh, my God, can you believe it stories? Oh, yeah. and it's like, oh my God, can you believe it? Blade has, oh my God, can you believe it stories. Oh yeah, like the leg thing is blowing me away because like, and for some people, like for their drug or alcohol addiction,
Starting point is 00:20:53 the only real rock bottom that could stop them is being incarcerated, like being put in prison where it's like, nope, sorry, you can't get your heroin now. You can't get your booze. You can't get your drug of choice. You have to stay here. And who knows?
Starting point is 00:21:08 Maybe that's the rock bottom for him. But yeah, based on that story, it seems like he was being a real scumbag piece of shit to that lady. You're not wrong, but I've always enjoyed his company. I don't know what to call it. But yeah. Yeah, that kind of stuff, though. It's a bad taste in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Right, right. Like, imagine if that girl, imagine if I knew that girl for 10 years and I always enjoyed her company and Blade did that. I would have a very negative take on this. Well, it's good that What's-His-Face, Bjorn was there and kind of shut that shit down. Yeah, it's interesting to me i look i don't i'm not the ice poseidon historian but for all the hots highs and lows everyone in that stream goes through i don't remember bjorn ever being the bad guy and yeah i've only gone to their subreddit like i remember last time we were talking regularly about Ice was when Kyle was into watching his streams.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And I would pop in once a week, once every couple weeks, just to go to top this week memes on his subreddit, try and get a feel. Every single time, they hate Ice. They're just like, he sucks. He's the worst. This content blows. The Mexican guy, they hate him.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And then at the time, it was like bjorn is our true lord okay well this guy seems pretty chill yeah that's about the extent of my ice poseidon knowledge it's uh i don't know i oh and the other thing and again this is i have a hard time saying this but i think part of what makes blade so gropey because there's other incidents too of him like grabbing girls butts or boobs or what have you in an inappropriate way wanting them to sit on his lap uh but like you know pulling him into his lap i should say i think these are all things um i think, I'm watching a Only Use Me Blade gets very drunk and gropes Corinne right now, just on silent.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I think that he's not doing the kinds of things that pull in girls right now, right? He's, how many pounds overweight do you think he is? 150, 200? A good bit, yeah. Yeah. Girls don't like that. That's not a girl thing.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Girls usually aren't too hip on a lack of career prospects poverty, that's not a big attractive point and mismatched leg colors with ulcers and alcoholism like this is severe alcoholism, a soon to be one-legged man
Starting point is 00:23:39 these are if Blade somehow watches this Blade, my man you're falling into like the bottom one or two percent of of attractiveness and things that girls are looking for uh and i think that that is motivating like the gropiness you know like if he could actually pull some tail a little better then uh he might be able to behave like a normal man I think I think it's definitely true to that if he was getting laid regularly he wouldn't have these weird impulses but like you're
Starting point is 00:24:14 saying he's in like the bottom one two percent of attractiveness like I'm telling he's to the point are you disagreeing with that no no no no I'm taking it a little further a little bit more brutal is he's to the point where he's on. No, no, no, no. I'm taking it a little further, honestly, like a little bit more brutal is he's to the point where he's at the very bottom rung among alcoholics, like among people who share your problem, your disease, whatever, whatever it is like, dude, your leg's going to fall off. Like, do you not look around and see you live, and your whole livelihood, my understanding, is getting drunk and high with people
Starting point is 00:24:49 who just get drunk and high all day and fuck around on camera and do embarrassing or funny things in public. And of all those people who are getting fucked up all the time, boozing and smoking weed or doing whatever, you're the guy that all of them are like, or doing whatever, you're the guy that all of them are like,
Starting point is 00:25:10 fuck, I'm six shots deep of Crown Royal myself, but he's scaring me, dude. Like, that is the level he's at, is even the other people around him. And, like, you pull a boilerplate off the street alcoholic and show him this antics of the leg, that scares them. Like, he's got some underlying issues that, that have not been addressed and who knows what they actually are. You know, that has led to the,
Starting point is 00:25:29 the alcoholism and the drug. I don't want to say drug addiction. Cause I don't know. Maybe he just does booze. Right. I wouldn't, I'll do the counterpoint. You go to skid row and see all the people lined up at the food shelter.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Top 50th percentile. Yeah. Yeah. Well well those guys wait they're the top 50th of of attract only use me blade would be more attractive than half of them yeah probably yeah probably definitely so but like i would recommend that he showers almost daily. They're heroin people there. That's even more extreme than booze. They probably do booze too. Those are very common. Mental illness.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I think. I don't know, man. But if he does see this, you got to. Dude, how does that leg not scare the shit out of you? If I woke up tomorrow and my leg was like that, I wouldn't shower. I wouldn't brush my teeth. I would be on the way to the hospital in 30 seconds. There's a term for it in aviation, normalization of deviance, where you're doing your pre-flight and something's a little not perfect, but you're like, ah, it's fine. And then 10 flights later, now it's pretty far from perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You're like yeah it always it seems okay and then it works out before long you're like yeah you know so there's like oil coming out of the head and the exhaust kind of rattles a bunch but you know it seems okay to me yeah and i think that that normalization of deviance might be how his leg creeped up to it. Like, we see it at stage nine and we're like, oh, my God, what happened to this man? Yeah. He's watched it slowly deviate from normal over time. Even then, though, he's got the control leg to look at right next to him. And, like, if he thinks, like, that leg is not going to soon follow or you know you're a streamer man how are you going to stream if you don't have legs or if your fingers start falling off or whatever
Starting point is 00:27:31 like it's just scary shit dude and he's so trifling with he's so cool i don't know how to phrase it better because right now he's like in the midst of sexual assault controversy but he has a an emotional quotient EQ if people heard this it's like IQ but for yeah like emotion and getting along with people's social IQ that's pretty high you know I I watched him like go to a casino and get in all this trouble and he I can't do it the way he does but he's live streaming and he's got on his phone you he does, but he's live streaming, and he's got on his phone. You can see that what he's doing is recording and showing to everyone what's happening everywhere,
Starting point is 00:28:11 and what's happening is like a fight. His friends are bullying people in the casino, and the security guards are there, and he manages to say like, dude, I'm FaceTiming right now. FaceTiming being like the video phone call in the Apple world, if people don't know. Dude, I'm FaceTiming right now. FaceTiming being like the video phone call in the Apple world, if people don't know. Dude, I'm FaceTiming right now. In a way that is like security guard, would you please stop interrupting this call I'm having with this person?
Starting point is 00:28:38 You're being impolite. But all that is conveyed just through like tone and tenor and mood. And I'm like, man, this guy, like he has a kind of crowd control EQ. That's really good. That's why he's chill to hang out with. But it only works so far and it only happens, you know, it works when you're so drunk. But yeah, the blades listener, if you knew blade, especially the blade i knew 10 years ago you'd like that guy you know you watch his sunday chill commentaries or something he's a pretty chill guy you'd like the blade that i knew even back then he was like maybe i don't want to be out of line he he drank quite a bit back then right like this is
Starting point is 00:29:26 this is like a 15 year thing for him like i don't know the total amount of time but i know it's been a while he's probably what late 30s or so i would guess yeah yeah i blade's been drinking for i don't i know uh blade oh shit shit that maybe even longer blade drinking stuff that isn't widely known like I mean I was told his private a long time ago so I'm not gonna share but but yeah he's had challenges with alcoholism and trouble for a long time yeah that's so really like people are just now seeing this is probably where it's gonna come to a head I would imagine because this is like just based on his leg and i know the sexual assault thing is is terrible but like if if there's a dozen videos or whatever maybe these aren't all the same instance i don't know but
Starting point is 00:30:14 if there's these accusations of groping and stuff then you know that clearly hasn't been a rock bottom being filmed doing those things but the leg thing man like that that's gonna get real real fucking quick is it because he oh yeah he's living his life drunk to drunk to drunk to drunk and so he's not really internalizing the things going on around him like he's just kind of in a haze i would assume and that he's gonna lose his fucking leg so you would just seem to know something about this leg condition that i don't. Most of what I learned about medicine comes from television and my injuries.
Starting point is 00:30:50 That's how I learned medicine. So I learned some bones when I break them in that area. I learned about tendons and ligaments. Anyway, you and Chiz are like sounding the alarm on what looks like some not even skin deep sores in the coloration
Starting point is 00:31:07 and like if i recall there was like almost like a size or texture difference between the two legs and it's like yeah it won't man this is this is real deal shit like your your leg is atrophying the skin is dying it's not able to repair it atrophying or is the other one swollen? Because I went the other direction. You know what? It could be that he's got lymphoma. I was going to say lymphoma. Like what Boogie had.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I don't know what Boogie had. Yeah, where you stick your finger like silly putty. It stays the same shape. So, yeah. I can't imagine something being more of a wake-up call than having to eventually get dragged to a doctor by your fellow streamers, because that's what's going to happen if I had to wager. He's not going to wake up one day and go, oh, my God, he's probably going to wake up one day and go, well, time for my morning. I want to say this, Blade, this might be good advice.
Starting point is 00:32:01 If you go to the ER and get that leg looked at might be good content just that's the way you need to frame it yeah good content hey uh you know super chatters or people who donate on twitch or wherever it is tell him to go to the hospital yeah yeah yeah he does need to go yeah it is good tell him to go maybe he'll just maybe he'll just drop it in the middle of a stream like you know what we're gonna get into casino fights again but here's something we don't do all the time urgent care and just he needs like an er or something it might be i don't know but i also the only thing i know is like that look on a leg not good means it's probably gonna fall off i do that much i don't i don't know the extent to it like it's just i don't know it looks so fucking bad that it doesn't seem like
Starting point is 00:32:51 one of those things that you can just stop and it'll be like oh well let's heal these sores let's do this and that we're back to normal that's interesting because i've had the opposite takeaway again if if it's not caused by trauma, I don't know much about medicine. That's really where I get my background. The way his is happening, I would wager, is him, like those little wounds, it's happening because he's stumbling around
Starting point is 00:33:13 bumping into things drunk, and he's not noticing injuries. Oh, see, now I took it in a different direction. Mine was like his circulatory system is not working properly because of drinking or diabetes. And they're wounds causing because they're not getting the nourishment that skin needs. But I don't know. Yeah, I assumed you're right with the diabetes
Starting point is 00:33:39 or the circulation or whatever the hell being the reason it doesn't cure. But I'm guessing that he walks really hard into the corner of a coffee table or something and he doesn't fully internalize it you know because he's so drunk and because he's probably lost some sensation in that leg and now a little little mark that would be fine and heal on itself with with like three days time is an ordeal. Now no white blood cells are getting there. Yeah, and it's going to end up getting worse and worse and bacteria is going to get in.
Starting point is 00:34:11 You're going to get an infection. How are your white blood cells going to get there to fight the infection? I don't know what I'm talking about, but I've seen House and it seems serious. It's clearly, what is it? Never leper? It's never lupus.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Lupus, that's what I'm going for. It's neither lupus nor leprosy. Yeah, I thought, if hypothetically, the guy goes through a lifestyle change, he just puts down the drink, which I know there's withdrawal systems, I don't know how serious it is, I don't get it, I'm not an expert, but if he just puts down the alcohol,
Starting point is 00:34:46 has himself a turkey sandwich instead of a pizza, that his leg comes back. I would hope so. That everything just balances back if he gets some proper nutrition and less poison. But I don't know. Because I've talked to you and Chiz now, and both of you seem to think that
Starting point is 00:35:04 he's a step away from losing a leg which i think wow yeah like and i don't think he's i think he's quite a few steps away from choosing that turkey sandwich and glass of milk option what does that look like what is it like so a lot of people it's rock bottom right they wake up on the side of the road in a in a gutter with yucky water running on them and say, you know what? This is my change. I feel like Blades had worse than that. Yeah, what are his ordeals? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Well, right now he's got about 600,000 people accusing him of sexual assault, so that's got to suck. I made up that number number but it seems reasonable and it's also cyclical where in his head like he's so deep into his probably routine of addiction that it's like like oh everybody's accusing me of this and that i don't want to think about this i'm gonna get drunk oh i did something terrible while i was drunk and now i i just don't want to think about that it It's embarrassing. I wore a diaper on stream and peed on something, or pooped on something.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I'm going to drink again and forget about that. Remember when he put his finger in his butt on stream? I never actually watched that clip. I've only heard you guys describe it. Yeah, I think someone offered a donation for it. It was like $10 or $100. It wasn't the kind of money that would motivate a normal person to put his finger in his butt but yeah he
Starting point is 00:36:29 that was the thing that undeniably happened and that could be a rock bottom he's had so many incidences incidents that should qualify as a rock bottom what's it gonna take like you said maybe it's incarceration i don't know yeah i think that's probably it like someone will have to physically prevent him from drinking and it like i'm almost wishing incarceration on him as a friend if that's it's a weird thing right incarceration on him as a friend. If that's, it's a weird thing, right? Like, but I remember, um, at one time, a lot of people were kind of like pressuring me to bring wings into the guest house and do a bootcamp with him again. And I didn't like that idea. It was like, it wasn't on his team at the time like whatever and i talked
Starting point is 00:37:27 to kyle and he laid it out for me in a really interesting way he's like don't you want like a higher power to just swoop in and fix him it was like yeah yeah that would like that you know some higher power would just give him the life coaching he needs or whatever and he's like that's that's who you are to these viewers. They don't see you as a regular guy who would upset his whole life and wife and kids and this and that. To do this for a guy who I didn't feel like he had earned it. That's what I want for Blade. I want some higher power to just sort of force him into a healthier lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:38:06 If that's incarceration or I don't know a a something yeah i i don't follow him enough to know i'm everything i'm saying anybody listening if it's wrong i wouldn't be surprised because i don't i'm guessing a lot i don't watch his even... Even back in the day, I really didn't watch Blade's content. I'd watch a video here or there. There were very... I didn't religiously watch many YouTubers. I mainly got into it because of the reason you said
Starting point is 00:38:33 where I'm like, I don't want to just watch these guys' videos. I want to be able to play with them and get to know them. And so, well, of course, like FPS Russia, but that's not a gaming channel. That was just like,
Starting point is 00:38:42 oh, I wonder what Kyle's blowing up. And then watching some of your videos and that kind of shit. But yeah, it's nice to say enough on Blade. I don't want to feel like we're piling on even more, but actually, no, we're not piling on. If anything, we're saying this mostly with concern and then also some derision for the
Starting point is 00:39:00 sexual assault things because come on, fucker. You can't be pulling that shit. Of course, people feel bad for you because your life seems fucking sad seems sad and depressing it seems like you're drunk so often even you don't want to be living your life like so maybe gosh think about things like that you're dropping truth bombs taylor and things are blowing up like the the sexual fix your diet that's some bad behavior right and i'm coming at this through my bias like like i said if i had known one of these girls for 10 years and blade was groping at her pulling him onto his lap or grabbing their butts or climbing into bed with him and doing I don't know what under the covers with his hand.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I would think really badly about it. I have a hard time viewing it through that lens. I don't like to think it because I like to think good things about Blade. Fuck. I feel you. I actually did watch the most recent UFC. Really? Yeah. I had some friends over. I did you. I actually did watch the most recent UFC. Really? Yeah, I had some friends over, and then we watched it on my TV downstairs. It was pretty entertaining.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I don't remember what... I always have to look up the fucking fights as we're talking about it. What did you think of the all-body fight? The Costa versus Romero perfect specimen sample fight that do you not remember them that was yeah I thought that one was great remember this they they were just beating the shit out of each other for like well the entire time dude that was my favorite fight so it happens about four times a year maybe will there be a UFC event that's notable enough for me to really set everything aside,
Starting point is 00:40:48 tell the family I'll be watching the fights tonight, Jackie, I need some snacks. I'm going to need you on point for snacks, like that scene at the end of Saving Private Ryan when they explain to the guy how he has to deliver ammo. That's Jackie with soft pretzels and shit. And that was one of those nights and then y'all Romero fights Costa and I'm there like we got any spicy brown mustard I suck you're never gonna look like yo Romero with with soft pretzels in your... Yeah. You're eating at 11pm,
Starting point is 00:41:26 you fat piece of shit. It's like, you know why these guys look like this? Because they don't eat at 11 and they never touch pretzels. Yeah, and I also thought like, I need steroids. Oh my god. Yo, Romero's like roughly my age. What is he, 40? 42?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Oh, I didn't realize he was that old. Yeah, I'll look him up real quick no no oh wait that's paul costa 42 he's 42. dude's got the testosterone well i was gonna say of a 19 year old but that's not true he has the testosterone levels that have never existed in humankind before but yeah he's 42 and he looks amazing and he moves amazing. And he's just... Yeah, I remember making a comment to my friend while I was watching it. And I was like, look at how good shape Romero's in and realize he is far and away the less fit person I'm wearing right now. Because it was almost like the mermaid effect where you see...
Starting point is 00:42:22 If you just see a panel of Romero, you're like, man's really fit wow it's impressive at his age and then you see costa and you're like ah no i have my opinions changed on you romero because this guy's got one percent body fat he's got just like striations all over his body from the muscles like and that was a really good fight i enjoyed it me too and then uh so one thing about guys who are that heavily muscled is they tend to get tired out. And I think twice there were stoppages in that fight for, like, a groin kick or an eye poke or something. Oh, yeah. And Dominic Kruse, he's like, this is for the fans, really. They're just reloading, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Like, Romero's going to take all five minutes of this. He's going to charge up up and Costa was tired as well and I was like yeah this is for the fans I would happily take this 15 minutes same 15 minute long fight and split it into five rounds just take two of the rounds and give them breaks so that they can charge at each other full speed again it was fun to watch uh I'm really thankful that I wasn't involved in that fight. I would be so smashed. He exaggerated his eye thing and his getting hit in the nut thing. Yeah. Like, I didn't really care either way, but my buddy who's really into UFC
Starting point is 00:43:35 and, like, does an amateur, he's really fucking good, actually. Oh, wow. Was, like, after he got hit in the nuts, he was like, look at his lower belly fat when they replay it that's where it actually hit but trust me he's gonna be down for a minute because he is fucking tired and then the eye thing happened and he's like he didn't get clipped hardly at all but watch again that nut thing's gonna happen he's gonna be out for a minute and like standing next to the like just doing that exasperated holding on to the side gotta gotta get myself back no no really this wait which one
Starting point is 00:44:06 was i holding actually it's both of them it's both of them are pretty rough right now man what's the problem i was happy with it yeah roll of a barrel cheats inside and outside the ring but in that particular kind of cheating i felt like both fighters equally needed the rest so i was cool with it yeah go ahead take a break and then come back and swing those haymakers i liked that one a lot and then i liked um uh i i've always been kind of indifferent or like just like oh those diaz brothers they seem genuinely retarded yes like like really genuinely dumb people and my buddy who was like kind of giving me the the commentary and everything it was like yeah he loves giving me the the commentary and everything it was like yeah he loves getting hit in the face I used to not like him but I think he's great now
Starting point is 00:44:48 and the more that fight went on when he was just eating shots to the face and doing like middle fingers and like putting his arms behind his back I was like this guy rules I come on Nate win the fight and so when he won I liked that dude they used to frustrate me. I wish I could come up with a really great quote, but they would be like, Taylor, I totally respect your pampered ass who didn't earn anything he got. And he would mean both of them. He said that about GSP. It was actually his brother.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And I'm like, how did that guy sincerely just praise and disrespect him in two sentences back to back? And, like, I just, oh. They never, like, okay. This one, again, is Nick, not Nate. But he fought GSP, and they went from California to maybe Toronto, which is like two or three time zones over.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And he was fussing that no one told him it would not be the same time zone and he's like this is bullshit you know like how was i supposed to know what time zone toronto was in uh i get over here suddenly like i have to sleep early or something and like that's why i lost the fight dude this idiot has fought in like every time zone he's fought in Japan for years like dude the fuck are you talking about that you don't know time zones maybe he's so dumb he's like no Japan on the other side of the world so they have opposite time I don't know how they never really owned up to their losses like if it's a decision they always think they won if it's a knockout they
Starting point is 00:46:25 always think it was bullshit or a sub but like they just i always thought they lost like without honor but he also grows on me and everyone loves nate right now and i'm no different and you need a heel you need characters like that the next fight's heel oh jorge masal, also a heel. Also no bullshit. Also totally down to fight in hotels and shit like that. And I look forward to it. Heel versus heel. Sign me up. I want to see it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And they're both badasses, and they seem to be in the same weight class. I look forward to that. The Cormier fight. Oh, I hate that Cormier. Cormier should have unfiltered love. He's a great guy. He's had loss in his life. He lost his dad when he was young. He lost his daughter when she was three.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Uh, in spite of all that, he's gone to become a great athlete. Got fourth at the Olympics. Bummer, but fourth, um, still good to weight class world champion in the ufc uh people say he lost to john jones twice i view it through a different lens you know he was scheduled to fight john jones three times uh the first time he he lost but we all know he's a steroid bitch I think the second time the fight was
Starting point is 00:47:47 called off because he Jones tested positive for steroids the third time Jones won the fight and then they dated a no contest because Jones tested positive for steroids and they're like Cormier is just not as good as Jones bitch Jones, Jones is cheating. He's cheating. He's on sproids. Daniel Cormier is not. I don't know, man. Stop acting like Jones is some masterful best ever when clearly he's just juicing better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I don't get the love for that Jones guy. Probably because I've never actually watched a fight with him, I don't think. You wouldn't like it. It's just a five-round keep-your-distance fest, really. love for that Jones guy. Probably because I've never actually watched a fight with him. I don't think. You wouldn't like it. It's just a five-round keep-your-distance fest, really. Oh, that seems boring. Yeah, he used to be a feared knockout fighter. Now he's just a boring-ass bitch point fighter. Point fighter.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah, I used to not like watching, even in middle school, you're not wrestling the whole time. You're wrestling meets. you're sitting there watching most of the time and watching people try not to get the pin but instead just try and get like take down two points reversal one point fucking you know
Starting point is 00:48:55 jerk him off two points or whatever check your oil this is so boring check your oil that depends on the sexual proclivities of the judge, but it can be up to 100 points. I like that overall.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Then the main event of Cormier versus Miocic. That Miocic guy, he's a tough cookie. He's a very, very tough, strong guy. I thought a couple, very tough, strong guy.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I thought a couple times that Cormier was going to edge him out, and then it seemed like Miocic was just like, I'm fine. No, I'm fine. Seriously, hit me again? You want to warm up your other hand too? No, I'm fine. I'm going to go ahead and pummel you now. I thought that was a good fight.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I was rooting for Miocic because I think he was the underdog. Yes, he was. I rooted for the underdog in all of them, and I think I got a good fight. I was rooting for Miocic because I think he was the underdog. Yes, he was. Yeah. I rooted for the underdog in all of them. I think I got a few right. I like Miocic and I like Cormier. It was one of those fights where I predicted Miocic won. I maybe wanted Cormier to win.
Starting point is 00:49:59 But I don't know. It's hard. It's hard that someone has to lose in these UFC fights. It was hard. It's hard that someone has to lose in these UFC fights. It was brutal. Miocic lost the first round for sure. The second was close. What did he win in? The fourth? Third or fourth? I forget. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:50:17 I'm not good at keeping track of the rounds. I just watch. Yeah, he started finding the body and he's a badass. I thought he was going to lose lose but i was wrong about why i when i watch him move i see like the youtube videos of him in training and i see him talking he moves like an old man like his back hurts like like he's makes noises from standing you know they're putting his socks on all the other guys are like boxing those those like body bags right before and he's like oh yeah oh okay all right
Starting point is 00:50:52 just one Popeye's spicy wing before I go out it's fine one Popeye's spice it'll help me I promise two at most just a three piece I'm a big man i can handle age was crushing him and then when i saw him in the fight i didn't really see that at all like he still seemed fast he still you know he just he just had the wrong game plan he just kept getting beat up the other guy was a lot taller yeah but cormier's he's thick he's so big and broad in his shoulders. His chest is wide. His hips are strong. He's got ass muscles. When he gets a hold of you, you go down. When he's on top of you, it's very hard to do
Starting point is 00:51:32 anything about that. That was the game plan. He did it in the first round. Picked him up, slammed him, held him down for maybe three minutes. Something like that. That was the game plan. After that, he never tried it again. He thought he was winning by the punches and the kicks. Well that he never tried it again he just he thought he was winning by the punches and the kicks and well he was not i don't know anything about the the ufc stand-up game but
Starting point is 00:51:52 as an amateur viewer i would have scored the stand-up portion heavily in the lean guy's favor because he was popping him and it was like he was popping him where it was like it was like a whole fist worth of distance more that he could get than Cormier. Like it wasn't even close. He could just kind of reach over and a whop whop. And Cormier is like, God damn it. Let me let me get a two feet closer so I can throw one. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah. Little guys absorb a ton of damage on the way in. So if you're a wrestler like Cormier, you should have been able to close that distance. Take him down because he's amazing at that, then hold it for three minutes and win a round. He could have done that repeatedly and kept the belt, probably. But instead, he decided to just repeatedly
Starting point is 00:52:35 try to come through that danger zone all night long, and in the end, he got knocked out. So, bummer. But I didn't want Miocic's career to be over either. He's a great guy and arguably the best heavyweight ever. A lot of people would say Fedor, but Miocic has it. I didn't know he was that good. I thought he was a younger guy.
Starting point is 00:52:57 No, he's 37, shit. Heavyweights are old. Yeah, they never seem to really, know lightweights 27 30 they they peak heavyweight seem to peak in their late 30s and even because they're so speed driven the lighter guys so they just lose that edge whereas these guys like train getting beat up and just they develop old man strength yeah hand speed and reaction to that hand speed is just huge in the lighter weights in the heavier weights i guess being a wily veteran is a key thing because they always seem to succeed later at heavyweight man 19 and 3 who are these guys out there who are like
Starting point is 00:53:40 2 and 41 to help make these records possible because like i feel like every ufc fighter i look up like i looked up uh what's his name uh nate diaz and it was like 20 and 11 yeah and i was like that sucks what are you the other guys or that the russian muslim dudes 27 and oh connor's this and that and then i thought i'm like huh how would I feel if the Blues started out next season 20 and 11 I'd be like well I'd be pretty stoked on that that's a great record and I was thinking more like oh shit like who who are these guys that are just getting their shit rocked day in and day out to make or is it just a couple guys or a litany of guys who show up lose three fights and and then gone.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Traditionally in the UFC, it's always been okay to lose a fight because it's not the end. In boxing, you lose a match and you're done. People don't care about it. Oh, he's 18-1? Ha! Is there anyone undefeated who we can build some hype around? But in MMA, guys can be 1911 and very respected.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Like Nate Diaz falls in. He's 20 now, I guess. He just won. When you see a record like Khabib's 27-0, you start to dissect it. Like, who are these O's? How did people lose? How good is his record?
Starting point is 00:55:04 What is the quality of his opponent but now that it seems like there's more really good records than there used to be are people padding them i don't know john jones i'm always taking shots at him because he's human scum but half of his wins are over middleweights he fights at light for people don't know middleweight is 185 pounds light heavyweight is 205 john j, half of his wins are over guys not in his weight class. His last one, Diego Santos, that guy came from 185. Anthony Smith came from 185. Chael Sonnen was from 185.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Vitor Belfort was from 185. Rashad Evans had time at 185. Lillita Machada came at 185. And now we're getting to people that I don't, names I barely know. But yeah, dude's at, when people look at Fedor's record in hindsight, some people would say he's the greatest heavyweight ever.
Starting point is 00:55:56 He has all these like Japanese cans that you've never heard of on his undefeated streak. People will look at Jon Jones and be like, dude, that guy looked down in weight classes constantly to find opponents that he could beat. And right now, he's doing it again. Everyone wants to see Jon Jones versus Stipe, that heavyweight that just won.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And Jon Jones is lighter. Light heavyweight. Yeah, well, not a little bit. Stipe weighed 230 last time. If Jon Jones doesn lighter. Light heavyweight. Yeah. Well, not a little bit. Stipe weighed 230 last time. If Jon Jones doesn't cut weight, he's like 225 or something. In college, they were both wrestlers. They both wrestled at 197. So they're like the same size frame.
Starting point is 00:56:37 They're roughly the same size person. But Stipe doesn't cut weight, shows up at 230. Jon does cut weight, makes it to 205 for a few minutes. They're about the same size. But most people, like, I'd be surprised if John Jones stepped up and fought at heavyweight. Instead, he's trying to get the 185-pounder guy, Israel Alessania, to come up and fight him. At 195? At 205, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:04 205, yeah. He's always looking down, trying to find some smaller man to fight him. Because he's a pussy. What a dick. Who could beat me with one hand and his ankles tied together. I still think he gets me.
Starting point is 00:57:21 But still, no respect. I will beat up John Jones as long as i'm given a heads up and my guns loaded wings had that and i was pretty impressed with the you know he was coming up with a game plan in which he could beat joe lozano and he's like i would have him meet me in the field and then i'd be in the tree line with a 12 times scope. And I was like, okay, Wiggs, I think you would win. So the way you win the fight is you have to literally murder him. I like his odds.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Oh, he's down for the count. Even Jon Jones, quick reflexes can't block. 308 to the sternum. 1,290, wait, 1,292 feet per minute? Nice moves by Wings of Redemption. Wings outreaches him there drastically at.3 miles away. Have you been gaming at all? The only game I've played recently has been on on the nintendo switch that uh that i got
Starting point is 00:58:29 and that's been super super smash brothers i'm having fun with and then super mario but or not super mario uh mario kart and even then it's more just like if i have company over my girlfriend and i want to play super like i like that about nintendo games they're very social yeah yeah it's like they create party games somehow and what i'm playing is i'm playing world war z still and i'm getting i want to say i'm good but i'm getting competent uh there's six levels i've beaten it on the hardest one but i usually play the fourth hardest and with that i wouldn't say i can carry noobs through but i can help people who aren't as good as me complete the level. That's where I am.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And I don't know. It's pretty cool. Finally not sucking at it. It took a while to get there. I haven't played that game. The next one I'm looking forward to is the newest Age of Empires. I don't know if you ever played Age of Empires PC. It was a blast.
Starting point is 00:59:24 It came out in like 2001. No, no, maybe even late 90s, the first one that kind of sucked. But it was so much fun, like a top-down strategy, like that game Age of Mythology that Kyle and I got really into a couple of years ago. So I'm looking forward to that one. I'm definitely going to buy it. But other than that, I just don't get sucked into games like I used to. I've got one I want to play.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I've been looking forward to this for months now. Halo. I wasn't a Halo guy. When Halo was big, I was still in school. Everyone says they don't have the time, but I truly didn't have any time. I just worked and slept, really. So I don't really know the Halo legend, that song. I don't know it you know kyle lays out um universes he like
Starting point is 01:00:12 sort of theatrical environments or problems in a way that's very compelling and he's like you know you are master chief when the demons hear you they run scared and this happens and that. And I'm like, I can't wait to see this. I didn't know how good it was. And I think it's co-op too. They're all co-op. So Colin and I can like enjoy this together.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And that's what I want. Halo for PC. And I just feel like I'm waiting forever. I think Kyle got me excited about it six months ago, and it's still not happening. Yeah, I really enjoyed Halo 1 and 2 when it came out on the original Xbox, and then I think Halo 2 just came out on 360, maybe. I don't remember. It was quite a while ago.
Starting point is 01:00:58 It's weird to think the 360 is that old. I still have it in my head as kind of like, ooh, one of those new consoles. But then it came out in 2004 head as kind of like, ooh, one of those new consoles. 2004 or probably something like that. I had fun with Halo. I never got good at it. When I played online or if we played
Starting point is 01:01:15 split screen, like four split screen with friends, I would usually get molested. I sucked. It wasn't until COD 4 that I put enough time into a first-person shooter that I was like oh shit like I'm actually decent at this right people should want me on this team that was my peak in cod skill was cod 4 and the first half of modern warfare 2 and it was just a calamitous decline after that because I didn't have as much fun playing it I think I peaked yeah
Starting point is 01:01:41 because I didn't have as much fun playing it. I think I peaked Black Ops 2, maybe. Yeah, Black Ops 2, I mean to say. The maps got... So I was kind of a very careful move from position of advantage to position of advantage through most of COD. And then people wanted to see more rushing gameplay, and that became a measure of how good a player was.
Starting point is 01:02:03 And I realized that getting the jump on someone, whether was lag comp or whatever was another way to control the engagement like if you're standing there looking and I jump into sight and and see you I probably have the advantage like so and they just had maps for it too well you could run around and there was always close quarters fights in black ops. And that was probably my peak because I could actually rush in that game. And I'm sure I would suck now. But yeah, I learned to rush in Black Ops 2 and it was fun.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, I always rushed. Not because I thought... I was so impatient in those games. If I tried to play like Wings or someone who's more conservative, where they're like, all right, I'm going to sit back here and I'm going to aim right at that gap. And it may take five minutes, may take seven minutes, but someone's going to come through.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I'd always be like when I first started a new con, where I'm like, man, I'm going to do that thing where I just ratchet up my KD for the first two gaming sessions where then I can be like, hey, boys, my KD is 2.9. And then it would be like, but I'd get two minutes into my first or second game, and I'd be like, this is fucking gay. I'm running around.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And then just run around. And I don't know. I never had fun playing conservatively. It was always more fun to even ruin the spawn and things. And I wasn't playing with you guys. It was boring to just pin him there. Run in. Get a couple kills.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Let him spawn back over there. Oh, now you got something else to do. I always wanted to win. That's what I like doing, winning. And like spawn trapping was a really effective, especially in Domination. You had to hold the spawn trap for a while. And you do that for two minutes and kind of lock in a win and that was my version of fun that that's what i liked and
Starting point is 01:03:48 then when youtube came along and suddenly like people really measured the kills and deaths you know if you could get a 35 and 3 type game it's like oh that's worth posting you know that and that just came with a sort of pressure. I created these rules for myself. I never backed out of a game. I did all the time. Right. I would never back out of a game because that would let my team down. And there's another thing.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Oh, I always caught flags and was the team player, the guy that you'd want on your team. And I used to almost envy guys. I guess I'll just say his name white boy 7th Street that guy backed out of so many games like all the time he ran um last chance and he would she was so good at backing out that as he was falling he'd back out and not die and it really helps you.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Like he would play, I'm going to estimate, like three times more games per hour than me because I would finish games that were never going to be YouTube games. Yeah. They might even be wins. But, you know, no one's posting 25 and 17, you know, kill losses or win, kill deaths, I'm trying to say. So, yeah, I was like, man, I think I could have. One time I started going for nukes
Starting point is 01:05:11 and all of a sudden I was getting tons of kills and my KD was doing way better. And it's like, dude, ignoring flags, that helps a lot. You'd be surprised if you could just go around the edges and go for the easy things instead of the more contested areas of the map it helps a ton and but yeah i had these self-imposed rules that always hurt my spores but anyway i had no such rules but good times i haven't had a kyle update i haven't either i'm sure we'll get one pre-show
Starting point is 01:05:43 on thursday for us to read on. They got my address so that we could talk, but it fell off there. I need to follow up with Kitty and see what's up. I definitely want him on. That would be fun. Get a real-time update or a pre-recorded bit or something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Or just talk to him. I just want to know, how's he doing? I'm not worried about him at all. I think I just want to, how's he doing? I think... I'm not worried about him at all. I think there's no danger. I bet that's true. And lots of boredom just sort of waiting it out. That's going to be the main thing.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Kyle's so used to, you know, electronic stimulation entertainment that the boredom is going to be the thing that struggles. But he's already almost a quarter of the way through. He's going to be A-OK. That's right. Alright. PKN 261.

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