Painkiller Already - PKN #314

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Solid. BKN 314. Hello, boys. Hello there. Hello, hello, hello. How's everyone doing? Kyle, you were saying that you've got a couple new things that you're diving into. Yeah, I watched it.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Well, I dove in, I got wet, and I got out. I watched that whole Michael Jordan documentary. I guess it's a Chicago Bulls documentary as much as anything. The Last Dance. He's out. He's protecting the integrity of your sound. I like the call. Colin snuck out all the way to the door and then
Starting point is 00:00:31 whammo! It's The Last Dance. It's about the final season that all the Bulls were together. Jordan and Pippen and Rodman with Phil Jackson coaching and everything. It really covers this huge... It's also kind of a michael jordan history lesson at the same time because it goes back to when he's in high school and um it's pretty cool early nba stuff and the
Starting point is 00:00:57 first three pete they did when they won three championships in a fucking row you know him going to play baseball and then him coming back and winning three more championships in a fucking row you know him going to play baseball and then him coming back and winning three more championships in a row um so it was it was really good i liked it a lot it was uh it was pretty emotional i knew michael jordan's dad died uh around the time that he left to go play baseball do you guys know how michael jordan's father died did he drown he was murdered by whom he was shot and killed by these two robbers who killed him threw him in a body of water so you were close and uh and stole his fucking car oh what assholes there were um conspiracy theories about it at the time i don't know if they're right or conspiracy they were taking on this like always untrue but it's just a theory
Starting point is 00:01:44 about a conspiracy but anyway some people felt like that was tied into why he stopped playing basketball like there was some mob involvement he's really well known for his betting oh yeah the gambling and like it wasn't the big thing with him it's like hey you're fixing games because he was so good he could just change the spread and stuff the big thing was um or betting on his own games? No. There was never any evidence ever that he bet on games at all. He liked to gamble, though, on poker, on golf especially.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But if you watch the documentary, they've got all this behind-the-scenes footage where the camera crew was following him around in his very early years and like he's gambling with his security guards on quarters you know throwing quarters who can get the closest to the wall without hitting the wall and uh they're like all right 100 bucks you get five tries and i get two jordan's saying this to him and they're like yeah i'll take that i'll take that any day and they throw five different times and the quarter that's close to the wall that's their throw and then he gets two and he's just like give me my money give me my money and uh like the uh the other bulls players are talking about how there's there were two games on the private planes to and from like road games there was michael jordan's poker game in the back of the plane where it was like some of the more highly paid uh paid players where they're playing for tens of thousands of dollars playing
Starting point is 00:03:10 poker he's like and then you know we're in the front of the plane playing blackjack for a dollar a hand we can't afford to be in that game and i just remember mike came up one time was like can i play with y'all and i was like why the hell would you want to play with me Can I play with y'all? And I was like, why the hell would you want to play with me? We're playing for a dollar a hand here. And Jordan said, because I want to say I've got your money in my pocket. He just loves gambling. He just loves gambling.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Golf was the big thing, but he was never accused. the big thing but he was never accused what it was was there was no he was sort of so um popular and so powerful and there was no there was no dirt on him at all and that's what they came up with to sort of like be like oh look jordan gambles and it's like oh really like illegal gambling oh no no like betting with his friends you have to know like that documentary that you're watching was jordan's documentary right that's like me writing my biography and you use that history lesson right like what so really the problem was woody was so handsome and so loved that they struggled to find anything that wasn't fucking roses and and lavender incense coming off the trail of him he wasn't good at baseball but this was false he was actually very
Starting point is 00:04:32 good at baseball too but yeah he's when that came out all his teammates like took the air and they're like what the fuck is fuck what the scotty pippen's like they're acting like i was shit at basketball and all the other guys they're scratching their heads they're like this is bullshit they acted like yeah they pippen has a new like feud doesn't get along with jordan anymore they all feel like this thing was designed to make jordan look fucking awesome and everybody else looked like a bit player that yeah it does you gotta watch it i do yeah yeah i'd like to hear their specific opinions about about why what you just said is is because like when i saw it it made jordan really look like an asshole like they straight
Starting point is 00:05:17 up call him an asshole um and and they they they pile so much praise on scotty pippen in this thing it's ridiculous like throughout the whole thing with him anymore they kiss his ass throughout the whole thing well maybe he's now i hear that i have to see it i have to see it and then maybe just didn't like the point maybe there's no amount of praise that will make pippen happy the only thing they did uh they said about pippen was you know there was a game where uh there it was like a 15-second – I don't even think Jordan was playing.
Starting point is 00:05:48 He wasn't. Jordan was retired playing baseball, and there was a game-winning situation maybe into the playoffs where there were 15 seconds left on the clock, and one of the Bulls wasn't being guarded. And Phil Jackson was like, all right, Joe's going to take the shot. And Pippen was like, what do you mean Joe's taking the shot? I take the shot. And he's like, no, you're getting double protection here.
Starting point is 00:06:13 There's two guys on you at all times. Was it Steve Kerr by chance? I don't remember. I think it might have been that white guy with the blonde hair. I think it might have been him. They wanted to give him the ball. He had a really emotional story, too. i thought he came off looking fucking roses and uh and pippen was like you know what go do it without me then and they're like what do you mean i'm
Starting point is 00:06:34 sitting on the bench and he literally sat on the bench for a 15 seconds to win playoff type uh game winning situation and the white dude made the shot and they they proceeded on and they asked jordan about that and he's like you know he knew he messed up there and i bet if you ask him he'll tell you he messed up and they go right to pippen yeah i messed up there i don't so i don't understand why people love it people find it um motivating Like, I guess Jordan had such an intense desire to win. And sometimes they're like, you know what? I should maybe step up my own desire to win. Like, that's been the takeaway a lot of people have had.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, just a ridiculous work ethic and intensity. And it's seemingly making everybody around him that much better. You know, he was like an assistant coach. It was a really good documentary. I should check it out. Yeah, I've only heard great things about it. I'm almost done shameless, which I'm also really enjoying, although it doesn't make me any better as a person. It's the worst. This is good. I really enjoy this. I watched it over the course of a couple of days. Originally, it was only on ESPN espn i have espn but i didn't watch it
Starting point is 00:07:45 there but i was on netflix and i saw that it was on netflix now and uh so i i clicked over and watched the thing i like documentaries where it takes someone who's more successful than i could ever be in a thousand lifetimes and it shines like a negative light on them so i can sit there overeating and be like yeah it's not all roses is it They killed your dad. It sucks to suck, bitch. Bitch? Bet you wish you could have shot a three-pointer and saved him, huh? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Eating beef jerky. Are there any foods that you guys really want to like and you can't? Ooh. Beef jerky is something that I don't dislike it, and I don't like it. I want to like and you can't. Ooh. Like beef jerky is something that like I don't dislike it and I don't like it. I want to like it because it's so lean.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It's all protein, but it's so dry. It's just it's not satisfying to me. They're not moisture beef jerkies. Oh, I know the nugget kind are good or like if you go to a specialty place for jerkies like you can get some. You can make those bars. You can get a whole bar of jerky. I have never thought. I wish I enjoyed enjoyed jerky more for nutritional reasons but they're that's crazy i just mean last night i
Starting point is 00:08:51 had run out of protein bars until my girlfriend went on the costco trip today and so i was like all right well i'm eating this entire bag of teriyaki jerky i have to like i need all all 35 grams whatever was in it i mean it's just lean beef that's been dehydrated. That's what's bad. It's dehydrated. It just turns to powder in your mouth. I dislike that. I always liked deer jerky growing up because we would shoot deer and we would
Starting point is 00:09:16 just give the deer to a guy and he'd give us like eight bags of deer jerky, like big, like two pound bags. So we just had an infinite supply of deer jerky throughout my formative years. So jerky is better. I aren't like when I kill the deer,
Starting point is 00:09:28 God, it was probably five, six years back at this point, we had some jerky made and it was way better than the fucking Jack links bullshit that you can get at a seven 11, like not even close to that level of dryness. But yeah, I just,
Starting point is 00:09:39 yeah. Do you guys have anything like that? You're like, God, I want to like this so bad, but I just, Jackie's chili it would smooth things out around the house if i liked that fucking god awful broth of good chili easiest thing to make too i i can't fathom what's going wrong she makes it one way
Starting point is 00:10:01 and look i'm in the minority she She likes it. Hope likes it. But for me... Is Colin on your team? Colin has a really limited palette. He doesn't like most things. But he would be on my team to answer it. You've got to take allies where you can find them, Woody. You're right. The dogs hate it too.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Colin, why are you walking around with slimes? No more chili. The dogs turn their nose up. Keep your witches brew away from me, no. You walk around with slimes. No more chili. Dogs turn their nose up. Keep your witches brew away from me, woman. Oh, I hope this is a good topic. Have you watched Landmark lately? I saw he was playing Fall Guys. Landmark is hating Tarkov.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I find that interesting. It is clearly taking a toll on his mental health. So people don't know, he's a Twitch streamer, and he's very, very good. If you were to name the two best players on the world, he's either first or second, maybe first. He's just very, very good at the game. And I was streaming when he quit Tarkov two days ago,
Starting point is 00:11:05 and I'm like, what? That's crazy. He's doing so well with Tarkov that, you know, why would he change this formula? And I watched him last night, I think after my own stream, and I think I saw him quit again. He just, you know, he can't play. It's making him insane.
Starting point is 00:11:27 He can't find a way to have fun in this game. But more than that, like, the deaths in Tarkov hurt. And it's just killing him. I think part of what it is, his standards are very high. Like, if I kill two guys and I've got their loot, I'm sort of ready to get out. You know, I might kill some scavs on the way. If I get four kills, that's a successful raid. to get out you know i might kill some scavs on the way if i get four kills that's a successful raid he's not feeling good about a raid unless he wipes a five-man team and you know even then i saw him he was up went up against a five man he killed like three or four of them and then the other guy
Starting point is 00:11:57 ran and then he killed a player scav on the way out and he was looting the player scav for some reason and he got killed while looting that guy and he's just ready to quit the game and i i think that it's one of those things where like when i played cod was often playing to get gameplay so unless i had an exceptional game for me like a you know eight or better kd i wasn't happy with that game but i didn't i wasn't an 8kd player so those didn't happen all that often and it just made it unfun unless i was the super me for a few minutes and that's maybe he's there but i thought you'd have watched more i thought you talked about it too but yeah it's interesting to me to see a guy who's killing it on twitch chaining his financial life maybe for the rest of his life and the toll on him
Starting point is 00:12:47 is so rough that he's like fuck it i can't do this it looked like he had five or six thousand people watching him play fall guys uh you know and tarkov isn't gonna be a thing forever anyway so i think it's good that he's he's just i see it as him taking like a little break from the game i mean he grinded all the way to level 70 first in the world level to level 70 months and months and months of 12 he probably averaged 13 hour days 14 hour days because he did that's exhausting like the first week of the wipe he was doing like these 26 hour days and then sleep for five hours and then another 24 hours and shit like that like stacking up so that first week he probably put in 100 hours or 110 hours or something in seven days something crazy and uh so i don't know i guess he does he really deserves a break i wouldn't be surprised if he was just burnt out
Starting point is 00:13:38 on the game especially considering that he keeps his favorite lab is maps or excuse me his favorite map is labs. And, uh, he seems to run into a lot of cheaters on there. And that's gotta be super discouraging for someone as good as him that, you know, if it weren't for the cheater, you know, if I died, I'd be like, well, I was going to die one way or another. I mean, at least the cheater got me out of here quickly. But when he dies, he's like, if it hadn't been for that cheater, I was just going to kill everyone.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like that cheater is all that stood between me and killing all 10 of the human beings that are on this map and all 20 of the souped up ai that are on this map and then taking my time to pick through the most valuable items and then carrying 120 kilos of those items out to the point where taylor he gets so much loot in this game that there's a weight system where like the more you weigh the the slower you are so he'll have to lay down his belly and crawl because he's got so much shit in his backpack he's literally crawling to the door he's got so much shit on his back that his character can't stand and carry it anymore. Xcal had a weird trick where he could double hit somebody with a riot shield. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Landmark has a weird trick where he can sideways strafe and go like 5% faster than you can walk. And he does it all the time when he's overweight like that. Yeah. Yeah. He's completely mastered the meta of the game yeah i've watched him play fall guys converted either of you to thinking it looks like a fun game just a fun mindless silly ass game it is i have a lot of testosterone and i think fall guys is more of an estrogen game
Starting point is 00:15:18 yeah oh yeah it's it's okay what does your character look like is he pink no my guy's got a he's got a pirate outfit on but that is pretty he's got a purple pirate though be honest you know i think he's i think he's white everybody everybody looks like the ghosts from pac-man and that's you know it i guess it's described i guess it's been described to me as like a battle royale in a sense. You're going through all those obstacle courses and mazes, and it seems like a Wii game to me. It seems like the perfect Wii game. Good description.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And I understand why people like it. I bet it's a ton of fun for them. It's just not what I personally am looking for in a game at this juncture. What I've been enjoying playing is a fucking code names. I like that. I can sit and sort of chill with like eight or 10 other people. And, and you know,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I can flex my mental powers upon them and laugh when they lose over and over. And then, uh, it's real funny. It's real funny. Uh, extra gaming fingers on all these 11-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I don't have extra gaming fingers. They do. They're 11. They've been training since birth. Maybe that's why they're kicking my shinnon more often than not. That's right. Vavity is one of our patrons, and he is... He'll like this if he hears it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 He's our smartest patron. He's the smartest of all the patrons because uh you know he's he's uh he's in the medical field uh he's in the military uh he's got his degree and he's an intelligent guy so when when i face off against vavity in code names which is literally almost every single game because there's this queue you can jump into so that you are the Codemaster. You are the one giving the clues and your team are the ones receiving
Starting point is 00:17:12 clues and then using them. And the Codemaster is kind of the driver's seat. And you fancy yourself a bit of a Codemaster. I am the Codemaster. I have a shirt that says it. No, I don't. I'm just in here ironing letters on that's absurd given your past behavior why would i put that past you buying my code master
Starting point is 00:17:35 shirt they don't exist yeah taylor that's a good point yeah i feel like you're no longer the fool couple years ago so i wouldn't put a little you know future past you and i'm facing off against him and you know i've got my team of and the teams are always random and i'm you're always hopeful you'll get the smarter guys on your team sometimes you see a lineup and you're just like got a dummy down this round no no no three-letter words for me um but i had a good team and uh one of and one of the words that I have to cue people into is histology. Do either of you know what histology is? I don't think so. Do you, Taylor?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Taylor's vocabulary is huge. Histology? I haven't heard of it. No, it assumes something about history, right? Okay, no, but the ology might clue you in. The study of, right? It has to do with the study of right it's the study it's uh it has to do with the study of um wait wait is it a data type study is that that's my guess now ah shucks
Starting point is 00:18:33 no it's a study of like uh the way um skin reacts post-mortem um it's often used in autopsies it's the microscopic viewing of skin i think to to determine maybe how the person died and things like that. Well, I know that. So I'm trying to clue my team in on histology. And so I say medical too because there's also like vasectomy on the board. And they're like, well, vasectomy for sure. And then they stumble around and they can't figure out what histology is they they pick two wrong answers in a row too and i'm i'm i'm scratching my head how i'm going to do this so i just say historical two because histology is on the board
Starting point is 00:19:16 and so is like genghis khan or something or buddha or something like that and they're like well yeah all right buddha buddha got that and then they're like well i, yeah. All right, Buddha. Buddha, I got that. And then they're like, well, I don't know what histology means, but it does begin with Hista. And he said, historical. Could that be it? And they're like, no, that's too easy. No, he wouldn't give us that good of a clue. And Bobby's just PMing me like,
Starting point is 00:19:46 those fucking morons. Because he's in the medical field. He knows what fucking histology is. And me and him are just sitting there. It's a very upsetting game. So that's what I'm playing right now. I love that game. It's infuriating at times, but it's really fun to win a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Makes sense. When you get a nice little clue out there and everything falls into place, that's got to be satisfying. I get a lot of nice little clues i am the i am the code master the absolute code master i am the code master is anyone even close other than vavity to unseating you this is the best i've ever played with um he's he doesn't play anymore because uh we were so good we were accused of cheating and he's like all right you think that i just won't fucking play again um this is the like fucking years ago yeah um but um we were talking about playing babadi for money uh but babadi can't come up with a partner who's good enough to
Starting point is 00:20:36 to hang with him and that he feels would be good enough to compete against chis and i so uh babadi is probably uh second best amongst the group that I'm playing with right now. Yeah, I would say so. Nice. Well, if you get bored of that, if you get bored of Codemastering so much that it gets too simple for you, pop on over to Fall Guys
Starting point is 00:20:59 and take on the challenge of a bunch of 11-year-olds jumping over kind of luck based obstacles that i like about the game is how much luck there is every once in a while just happens where it's like well all right that was clearly a glitch but i'm bounced closer to the end other times like you'll just fall right through the platform i've seen some funny clips from it i saw the one where the guy gets to like the finish line and then he turns around starts taunting the dozens and dozens of people behind him. But then these AI-generated boulders start repeatedly knocking him down as all the people he taunted rush past him.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And they hit him four times in a row, knocking him down, until so many have passed him that he's at the cutoff point, like the bottom 15% or whatever it is. And that looks pretty funny. That's the worst part of it is you can tell who aren't the children because they will. They'll stand right at the end of the game, and there's a jump at the end of pretty much every map
Starting point is 00:21:57 where you have to jump and usually dive over the finish line because there's a gap. And if you just try to run over the finish line, you'll fall and die and then get teleported back. Yeah, I played Mario. Yeah pretty much like that and there's always guys who will like stand there and wait for you
Starting point is 00:22:12 to like try to jump and then they'll go over and do like this little like there's a little grab move you can do and so if you grab them as they're jumping you just like pause them for a second and then they fall and die and I get I'm not good enough to do that. Scratch that. i'm not confident enough to do it yet to stand there and be fucking around i just finish it when i can but god that gets stressful when there's like there's there's one map where
Starting point is 00:22:35 it's there's one point where you run across two like you've seen the stupid show wipe out where they run across those foam pillars like whoa like they're skinny ones and there's two and then they lead into one and that's the only way to get up at that juncture in the map there's one little pole and it's a shit shit house and every once in a while a guy who's really good will get onto that final pole and just turn around and everybody trying to jump up there he goes just just throwing everybody down it's like you bastard like it's frustrating to just feel impotent not be able to do i was watching landmark play and people are doing that to him constantly and i it he thinks he's being stream sniped and he might be that that could be a thing that is happening
Starting point is 00:23:18 to him or he could just be getting picked on because people pick on each other in that game as you just described yeah but it's i i kind of like watching his fall guy i'm street mostly that's not my favorite kind of content which is why i'm not playing i always made content i would like but it's conducive to chatting like chill and like finish the game i can pop over i can like talk to people during it but yeah it's he he might not have been getting griefed at all it might just be he might have been playing on the yellow team because the the fucking twitter account of this game with like over a million followers now is like retweeting memes about like yeah fuck the yellow team and it's random what team you get assigned to and so if it's yellow versus red versus blue if you end
Starting point is 00:24:00 up on yellow you are 80 already fucked all of blue is coming for you and all of red is coming for you. And so there's this egg collecting game that is fucking gay as shit. I hate it. Oh, this is the gay part of Fall Guys. Okay. It'll be like there's a hundred eggs in the middle or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You have to bring them back to your little nest and throw them in there and go steal the other teams. And if you are on the yellow team, there's no way to win. It'll be like halfway through and it'll be like blue team, 61 eggs, red team,
Starting point is 00:24:32 48 eggs, yellow team, literally one egg. Anytime you throw an egg back into your yellow nest, there's five red guys and four blue guys there to steal it. And it's like an understood thing in the game that fuck yellow team. And we both get by because it's only the worst team that doesn't get to the next round in pokemon go am i crazy it did yellow team discriminated against in pokemon go as well not fair not fair for why
Starting point is 00:24:54 yeah because nobody likes the electric types probably or racism yeah but yeah i'm having a blast with that game it's so simple and stupid and fun i like it a lot yeah vr's are good like that um this is your first vr and it is the worst i'm trying to think of a vr that's worse or no i'm trying to play i'm trying exactly i'm trying to think of a vr I would like to play less. I think it's what's actually happening. I was thinking like, well, PUBG kind of got shit by the end.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm like, Fortnite? Man. Yes, second word. If I had to choose between... Fortnite's an amazing game. It really is. It's just not for me. Yeah, the building added such a cool skill gap.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I respect Fortnite for doing that. The things I don't like about Fortnite have more to do with the player base than the game itself. I don't like the visuals of it. Visuals are really important for me in games. That's interesting. I do. Yeah, I despise those.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Because I was coming from PUBG at the time. We'd been playing PUBG for a while. I don't know how long. Not years or anything, but maybe a month or two. And then there was Fortnite with those cartoony-ass graphics and the dances and stuff. And it was like, I'm a hardened battle veteran, all right? We wear motorcycle helmets when we go to war. And it was just like these guys
Starting point is 00:26:25 are hopping around and like doing dances and building these weird metal uh wooden house wooden houses to fight out of and but but i do think that adds like an incredible skill gap that i respect a lot for them uh having put into the game because a lot of games shy away from things that add skill gaps like that and i just wish that a game that i liked had something like that yeah i'm uh i like a happy color palette i'm fine with that you know yeah i like that about fall guys too just a silly happy color palette very bright engaging i want to be sad after i finish what's that I want to be sad after I finish. What's that?
Starting point is 00:27:07 I want to be sad and depressed after I finish. Like I just played eight hours of a rainy day. I don't want to play that. That's sad. I want to play one game. That's literally exactly what I want. I'm busy all day, and so when I stream, I just want retardation.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Just something stupid that I really don't have to think about. So I watched a couple more videos of that game The Forest, the second one that's coming out. It looks pretty cool. I'm down to play that and stream it. It looks way, way harder than any game I've played in a while. It looks like it's going to be
Starting point is 00:27:36 aggravating to try and survive with that stupid little hunting hatchet. It's going to be aggravating for you to learn fucking Woz Deep. Are you playing Fall Guys with a controller? Yeah, it's pretty much understood that you should use a controller for this game. Okay. Some games are like that. I'll give you that then.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I was trying to play it with WASD at first and I was like, this is so hard. And my whole chat was like, use your controller, idiot! Fucking idiot! You guys bitch at me all the time for not using WASD and now I do feel like I'm being responsible and nope apparently wrong wrong game but it is way easier on controller
Starting point is 00:28:08 not even close because there's only like three buttons you need A, X and trigger and like the camera design for controller it's a Wii game it's a Wii game but yeah the forest is
Starting point is 00:28:23 standard RPG elements mixed in with competitive But yeah, the forest is standard RPG elements mixed in with competitive no, cooperative teamwork, you know, as if there's any other kind. Cooperative gameplay, I should say. Exploration, horror
Starting point is 00:28:39 and there's a whole building aspect that you guys probably saw in that one video, but we don't do that shit. That shit's lame. You build a house so you have a save point. But that house takes literally five minutes to build. And I never go back to building. There are people who build huge villages full of, like, mousetrap-style traps. And they like to lure the hordes of bad guys into them and watch them, like, get destroyed.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And it's like, that has nothing to do with the game. Like, like let's just look a little side thing. They added in that never got fleshed out. Really? You like attacking them hand to hand. The game is, is like one of those really old school,
Starting point is 00:29:14 um, Apple computer floppy disk games where you're solving a mystery at its core. You're, you're solving the mystery of where your son has been taken to and who took him and why they took him. And to save him. Like so many, like,
Starting point is 00:29:28 I mean, going back to like paper Mario on N64, like you've got to go to like various caves on the map, completely explore them, get all the clues that are in them and find little pieces of the story. And usually there's an item inside like a scuba tank or a weapon or a climbing um like axe like ice axe that you need to do the final mission you know all those items come into play uh and the final mission is like all right we got a scuba down first and then we got to
Starting point is 00:29:57 climb up the wall now and it's like oh yeah these were they essentially set up levels one two three four five six seven eight nine ten but without ever explicitly saying that they're levels because it's you can do anything you want it's a it's a big open world you don't usually start with a map that's um that i think that'll frustrate some people when they first start you begin and you have like a hunting axe and a fucking bick lighter that's your light source by the way that's one of those reasons the caves are so scary you're like all right i can see for two feet now that music is there bet is there scary music i don't there is i think yeah i dogged on slenderman for
Starting point is 00:30:37 like six months before i tried it and then uh i tried it i was alone in the dark in my boxers and i just thought the whole idea of a game being scary was stupid and lame and impossible. Why would a game ever be scary for me? And then I started playing it and the wire from my headset brushed across my thigh. And I was like, all right, it'd be a little scary the first time. I was like, alright, it'll be a little scary the first time yeah I'm going to play the forest with you
Starting point is 00:31:09 doing it, because I don't want to get in and be like, ah, no map let's fuck around and not google it and just find it if you do that, you'll starve to death cave A, that's where the map is be sure to pick some berries I want a guide
Starting point is 00:31:24 it's definitely different than anything you've ever done before because this is one of those games where you've got to eat and drink and eating and drinking isn't usually as simple as like oh look there's food on the ground well i'm full for the next 55 hours it's like all right well let's go kill some rabbits and then let's figure out how to construct a campfire and then let's cook those rabbits and then let's eat them all right that got me a little bit of food i really need another rabbit though quickly because rabbits are lean meat all right we didn't get a lot of calories out of that and the water is the same way you're like oh look a clear pool of water every other video game in existence clear pools of water
Starting point is 00:32:05 you drink out of those that's not the ocean here it's like the water was contaminated and you're like oh no how do i uncontaminate it how do you beat vomit yeah boil it and you're like well where's the pot where's the pot at now you're boiling water um i'm making it sound more tedious than it is but those are things that have to be done yeah i've said before i'm totally down to play it sounds like fun i had fun playing that right i think the game is called raft raft yeah yeah we all played rap together that was fun i think i like Colin and i eventually played some more and beat that game we went all the way to yeah you told me about what the ending was like so i think that helped and uh underwhelming yes underwhelming i wonder if they wasn't it a beta or something did they finish it it's also probably like a five dollar game you know yeah
Starting point is 00:32:53 it was like free at one point i think by the time you get to the end of that game oh did you beat it too yeah i played by myself though the size of the raft is like three football fields you've had to make separate areas to like cook your fit you've got like five kitchens like a bunch of pumpkin patches and banana trees and it's like this is i'm just maintaining now like i could do i could walk away for 40 minutes and come back and i wouldn't really lose anything you know at first you know you're like building a tower to land on the island and get to a higher elevation in it. By the end of the game, I had stairways to everywhere. I could have backed that thing in accidentally and there'd be a convenient stairway to that island.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. You put these fish traps, or not fish traps, but like junk catching traps on the edges of your boat. By the end, the full perimeter is just trash catching traps, and you're just making the rounds around and around. And after, you know, 20 hours of playing, you're like, so I'm a garbage man now, I guess. That's what I do. I'm sweeping the ocean clean.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I haven't passed my line in nine hours. You know, I've just been letting it scoop up everything yeah that was a fun game for a while though i liked that yeah it's fun for you know four or five hours just because at first it's hard you know you literally start out or maybe 10 you literally start out on that raft that's just like a one by plywood you know and by the end you've got a fucking giant sea vessel that does everything you could ever want. Yeah, by the end, you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:28 the sharks will come up and tear out a panel. In the beginning, you're like, there's a shark on the panel! There's a shark on the panel! By the end, it's like, you can have that entire half. It does that. That's how two of my beet farms over there, you go, fuck yourself, take it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 That's how all games are, really, though, because we were playing The Forest the other night, and our left and uh and i was like oh i'll just host one and so it gave me the option to start a new game or continue and i was like we'll continue should pick up the last guy's save at least i thought that no it it brought up a save from years ago when i played and i'm like all right boys got to quit. Let me show you my inventory. And it's just like, I have the giant raft with the fish catching machine and the multiple tiers. I have every weapon in the game and every item in the game. And my inventory is completely full.
Starting point is 00:35:19 It's like, this will ruin the game for us if we continue. I was like, look at my screen right now. I have eight bases on this map. Like every direction I turn, there's a base that I own this won't work this won't work yeah yeah it is disappointing almost when you get to that point in the game in pokemon it was like that where it's like i'm grinding i'm gonna get the charizard so powerful i'm gonna go to the elite four and i remember like when i was a kid like i would know like oh like everybody in my lineup like i got a charizard i got a blastoise got a venusaur got a fucking machamp alakazam and a gyarados whatever it is it's like all right they're all like level 60 i could trounce the whole elite four now if i wanted to but like even
Starting point is 00:35:55 that like nine i'm like but you don't want to go in there and be a guy who's known for barely sneaking by the elite four you want to go in and one hit ko every single pokemon in the elite four is like the big battle you have to fight four people five people in a row you can't heal in between like it it's tough if you're nine and i would just like grind in a in rock cave against high level people until all of them were like 10 12 levels higher than everyone else and then you'd go in and the first playthrough as you're dominating is a bunch of fun and then there's nothing else to do in the game it's's like, do you want to go do this additional mission? It's like, well, no
Starting point is 00:36:27 because I fucked up and I trained too high and it wouldn't be fun. Well, I guess I'll restart again. I played, when I bought Pokemon Red in 1997 or 8 or whatever it was, I didn't know there was an option that you could heal your Pokemon because I didn't Google it or anything. Well, I guess I wouldn't have even Googled it. I didn't AltaVista it
Starting point is 00:36:43 or whatever it would have been. I just remember like getting in a couple fights and my charmander dying and restarting the game like five times being like this is fucking hard man i have to keep this this lizard alive for the entire game and they're like oh he was like no you can like you can heal that motherfucker anytime it's like oh okay i'm watching a history of go ahead different games are different for me um so like tarkov i'm watching a history of go ahead different games are different for me um so like tarkov i really like the sort of end game where i'm rich and i can die it doesn't hurt so bad and such um i played uh war war z something like that wwz and in that game i thought it's like left for dead almost in that game i thought getting my character all ranked up and all the skills was going to be it's going to make it more fun but it almost became like oh
Starting point is 00:37:30 well why am i what am i playing for anymore you know my guy like shucks i really liked it when i was opening up new powers or getting better at something and now i'm not sure like what's even the point if it is yeah skyrim characters get like that where by the time it's the end of the i don't know how you guys played skyrim but i would that where by the time it's the end of the i don't know how you guys played skyrim but i would do like the most fun run through i ever had is i did every single ancillary mission before i even walked into white run and so like usually you the way the game wants you to play is you walk into white run with your like hood on and like your shitty sword no i want to burst into Whiterun as the most
Starting point is 00:38:05 powerful mage Skyrim has ever seen and then you still get the same dialogue and I remember he's like who's this ruffian come in my court and he's like it shows you and I've got like a powering witch king helmet I'm emanating purple light I've got two stabs
Starting point is 00:38:22 and they're like and you believe you can slay the dragon i'm wearing dragon bones you know actually i've killed every dragon in the game except for random ones here and so i liked that that was fun you or you do all of them except for the assassin's guild you let yourself be super powerful as an archer for the assassin's guild that's a bunch of fun you have to make the assassinations harder on yourself though be like you have to like set your own rules where it's like no i have to snipe them from like the barricade of the city with my bow because if you if your stealth is maxed out you could walk up to them spit in their ear and they'll be like
Starting point is 00:38:55 someone there that's i i think that's considered a cheap way of playing but it's how i like to play i like to play like a maxed out stealth sniper or a stealth archer character i do think that's considered a cheap way of playing, but it's how I like to play. I like to play like a maxed out stealth sniper or a stealth Archer character. I do think that's the shitty way to play, or it's, I've seen people make fun of that way of playing on the, on the Skyrim subreddit. You don't, you don't number one first playthrough play that way.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Cause you don't know, but yeah, that's how I played the first playthrough. I was like, well, I want to be a sneaky bow guy. That sounds fun. Um, and then like in subsequent playthroughs, I would to be a sneaky bow guy that sounds fun um
Starting point is 00:39:25 and then like in subsequent playthroughs i would usually be a mage but i would opt but like early on your magic is so bad see the the attraction to being a stealth uh archer is that you get a combat you get a bonus for being in stealth when you shoot someone. A really big bonus. A really big bonus, like several fold. And because you're shooting them with a bow, you're not close enough that they can one tap you because a lot of the early, you're so weak that a lot of the stuff will just fucking destroy you with one hit. So it's just, it's really helpful for a new player
Starting point is 00:40:01 so that you're not getting one hit. You're able to, and the thing about that game is like the enemies don't exactly rank up and follow you. So rank up with you alongside you. So you can easily jump into a cave where it's way over your skill level. And you'll usually quickly find that out. And some players are smart enough to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:24 oh, wrong cave and leave and then there's me who's like doing it 30 fucking times in a row like i can sneak my way through this i can sneak my way through and eventually you do it enough times you build up that sneak and you will get through it's just you know i would i would take my xbox controller and tie rubber bands to the sticks so that he would continuously walk forward. And then I would click my sneak button. And then I would have him sneak in a bedroom next to a sleeping body for hours. For hours on end. And that was for sneak.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And then if I wanted him stronger, this may have been Oblivion. And then because I played that a shitload too. If I i wanted him stronger i would put him out in a lake and i and and both sticks had to be involved so i had two rubber bands one to like turn the right stick to the left and one to push the left stick forward just so i swam in circles you're just out there doing laps for eight hours while while real me is asleep in bed thinking like i'll be so strong when i wake up i'm gonna whoop some fucking troll ass i'll be so fucking strong and you get back on and sure enough you've gone up like 18 power levels or something like that yeah the way the game was meant to be played exactly that game was so full of bullshit
Starting point is 00:41:44 oblivion in particular i think that's the one that had the ring glitch where i think the the idea was that you're supposed to be able to put on like two rings at a time or or something the end result was that there was a glitch where you could a ring could give you like skill boost it's like ah when i this is the ring of power i'm 10 points stronger when i wear this and it's like yeah but i found a way to make it make the game think that i'm wearing 10 000 rings of power so uh i can literally jump out of the map now like literally when you go into a city the game does a cut scene real quick and now you're inside a city and it's all walled off there's you can sort of see over the walls and and oh yeah there's grass and stuff out there but
Starting point is 00:42:29 it's there's no textures there's no it's not meant for you to be out there because you're in here but my character could get a running start and ha and just jump over the city walls back out into the non-textured world and now i'm just out there in 2d land like running around and running so fast that the character would have momentum so you just let go of the sticks and he'd like fucking legolas like like you continue moving yeah that ruins the game it sounds like it made the game better i so i never cheat in games i swear that's true but i was playing borderlands the first one on xbox and i bumped into someone who gave me a shield that was good but the shield was great the shield was so great i suspect it was a hacked shield like a good shield in that
Starting point is 00:43:21 game might give you like i don't know 400 uh like there's two kinds of damage you say 400 and 400 this one was like 3500 and 3500 and it made it so that i could replay like the boss at the end or the the way leading up to it again and again and again and always win and i just liked it and it was hard enough that like if you fucked around and messed up too badly you could get in danger but all you had to do is put on your try hard pants for a second the shield recharges and you're good to go again i would just play that all the time i i beat that i beat borderlands one probably like 50 times because i just replay the last hour of it and enjoy it it was a good yeah it was a good cheat i still have it i bet i usually like to go the
Starting point is 00:44:05 opposite with games that are really um i'm super into and like make it harder and harder i like games that once you beat it on the hardest difficulty they unlock an even more ridiculously harder difficulty uh doom does that and dead space did that so i liked going back and beating dead space the second time through on the i don't know nightmare mode or whatever the fuck it was called did you get the mile high club achievement in cod 4 yeah it was hard for me that was a tricky it was hard for everyone oh yeah i often see that as um like achievement of all time well there'll be like a top 10 list of the hardest achievements in all of gaming and And it makes that list.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, that was a really aggravating mission. I haven't thought about that in years. Did you do it, too? Did you get? Yeah, I finally finished it. But I remember it took me fucking forever to eventually do it. I would panic when the time was kicking down and you had and your guys swaying all over the place at the end. And the guys not even holding hostage still.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I got that second try but getting to it it was like hundreds of tries to get there and i was held back somewhat by bad advice in the chat my chats fuck with me as far as back is like justin tv they were giving me shit and they would be like go this way go that way they'd give me bad advice and i'd try that for an hour um i remember when i played skyrim this is almost legend now but uh youtube was new at streaming right so youtube was a new streaming site and the chat if you were busy enough the chat would get delayed well mine was like 90 minutes behind and they're telling me to check behind the waterfall for something on Skyrim and I'm long gone I was there an hour ago and they're just going in like off behind the water hall behind the waterfall it started as good-hearted advice like what do you need to go
Starting point is 00:45:55 check behind the waterfall this is important thing you don't want to miss but then like as an hour late it's like I can't go all the way back there. And it's making me crazy. So it just keeps going and going. And it's like six hours of trolling me to check behind the waterfall. They still write it in my chat now and then. Did you ever check behind the water? Yes. Yeah. I beat Skyrim.
Starting point is 00:46:18 There's like more stuff I didn't do, like some guild. But I played that game like straight up the middle i did as few side quests as i could i i beat the game i heard the story and it scratched my head as to why anyone would play a different way but i guess i'm weird yeah i just remember the thieves guild was the lame when he plays role-playing games, his character is Woody, the guy who's playing a role-playing game. On his valiant mission to get it the fuck over
Starting point is 00:46:52 with. That's about right. This game's so much fun. I can't wait till it's done. Meanwhile, I'm like, well, I think my elf would have a lot of scars because he's a little shorter and he probably had to fight trolls growing up. That's really going to affect the way he approaches situations.
Starting point is 00:47:12 My guy's a skooma addict. I have a little bit of depth to the character. Now, me as the role player, I want to go to the thieves guild, but my character needs a skooma fix. So I need to go to the skooma plant. And then, you know, then he goes to the thieves guild and the thieves guild goes but my character needs a skooma fix. So I need to go to the skooma plant. And then, you know, then he goes to the thieves guild and the thieves guild goes, are you on the skooma again?
Starting point is 00:47:28 He goes, you fuck you for even an ass. I just remember the thief. Like I remember I would always do the assassin's guild first and it would be high, high T fun. It'd be like, you need to go and kill the prince of whatever. And it's like fucking tight at his wedding too awesome you know what
Starting point is 00:47:46 i'm gonna do you one better i'm gonna kill every person at the wedding and that's what was usually my goal remember that one we'd have to go kill the person at the wedding and if you were a powerful mage you could walk right into the middle and then just do your mass freeze back yep do your mass freeze and then your mass fire and every single person at the wedding is dead but you've caused a ruckus by that point so people are coming after you but it doesn't matter. And then you would be like, man, I'm amped up. I'm ready to go join another guild. And they'd be like, hey, welcome to the Thieves Guild.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Blacksmith has a pretty cool pot we like. Go get it. It's fucking retarded, dude. This is the worst. It's like you do three fetch quests for them and then they say they'll let you in but all they do is pay you a pittance in like silver cups and yeah i remember the thieves guild i never finished that ever because it was really needed they really needed some way to fix the the issues that you're pointing out where like you go to the mages guild
Starting point is 00:48:40 and you become the um what do they call the the grand mage of like white hall the the you're you're like the you're the chief mage they literally give you your own tower and your own robes yeah yeah your own robes like like you you've got custom gear you've got your own house in the middle of the city and it's a giant magical tower and in it are like like mixing tables and and like a spawn point and like all the things that you normally have to like go to somebody else's house like it's like when you're growing up and like one friend had a second one friend had a nintendo no you've got every game console at home now you don't need to go anywhere and then you go to join the Fighters Guild and they're like,
Starting point is 00:49:26 see if you can beat up Leroy over there. And you're like, of course I can beat up Leroy. Like, I'm the... Did you not see me levitate in here? I flew through the window. I'm the arc mage of... Don't you know me? Yeah, it's like there's dead serpents
Starting point is 00:49:41 and trolls all around me. A child cried when he saw me on the way in what are you doing like they should give you like upgraded like missions you should walk in they're like oh the arc mage himself well we've got something for you and they're like oh cool they're gonna give me a custom mission because i'm the fucking arc mage i'm the baddest motherfucker in the game already. Like, give me something hard to fight. But instead, like you said, you're stealing pots and pans.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You're beating up Leroy the janitor who, you know, stupid stuff like that. They are tremendously underutilizing you. Yes. It's like, you want to send me to the Greybeards? I can kill them easy peasy at this point. No, no. Oh, you want a bushel of apples? them easy peasy at this point no no oh you want a bushel of apples it makes it frustrating to like be a completionist because like like like after you've completed i guess if you like touched them all a little at a time if you're like all right one one made one mission for the mages one for
Starting point is 00:50:39 the thieves one for the fighters and you bounced back and forth but that's not expedient at all you know you can fast travel yeah you'd have to fast travel yeah that would suck my game and the loading screens are long in that game yeah um might have been thieves killed or is there an assassin's killed i don't know there is but i had a mission to like go kill someone who i had already killed and i'm like oh well so I guess I can't do it you know like so you're aware of this yeah I never had it with the assassins guild
Starting point is 00:51:11 multiple times where it'd be like go kill the potter in Whitehall and then you like go and murder the shit out of him and you come back and she just says you must murder the potter in Whitehall son of a bitch I've killed every potter and white hole son of a bitch now it's over where you go every
Starting point is 00:51:26 potter in this land yeah you return walking around with handfuls of water you must claim the chalice from the priest of the river it's like all right and you go and you steal the chalice and you bring it back and you're holding it in your hand in front of him. And you'll be like, give, give. And he's like, don't come back here till you've got the chalice. It's like, fuck! Well, I guess I'm done with it. That happens so many times.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I quit the whole game. I love those fucking games. I love those fucking games. I wish they would just make a new one instead of selling us the old one again and again and again for over a decade have you played it on your phone i played it on my refrigerator at this point come on give me a new fucking game just do it it must be you guys seen those tweets where it'll say like sent from my android sent from my iphone and someone someone will say like sent from my samsung smart fridge yeah that's pretty fun yeah i wonder if when there'll be a new gta because that case so hopefully gta was super
Starting point is 00:52:36 expensive to make was it a quarter quarter billion yeah it was a quarter billion dollars to make grand theft auto and it was very profitable and it's just like that was a quarter billion dollars to make Grand Theft Auto, and it was very profitable. And it's just like, that was a big bet, though. That's a big bet. Turned out to make money. Are they going to do it again? GTA V might be the most fun game I've ever played. That was...
Starting point is 00:52:54 Yeah, they're saying... They're saying it'll be somewhere between April of 2023 and March of 2024. Ah. That is a long time from now. That sucks. So Grand Theft Auto's come out less frequently than Xbox now. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Well, it'll be what? One per console. 11 years since GTA 5 came out when that comes out in 2024. They really want to milk these things dry. I want to say GTA 5 was Xbox 360, right? It may have even been. I don't think so. It GTA 5 was Xbox 360, right? It may have even been. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:53:27 It might have been like 2013, right? 2012? That would surprise me. I don't know. I just know it was really fun. The dialogue in that game is genuinely funny. The characters are good. Everybody's likable.
Starting point is 00:53:46 You get to just cause problems. It is Xbox One and Xbox X. It wasn't 360. Okay. Yeah. No, it was 360. I'm not reading this carefully. They updated it,
Starting point is 00:54:00 but it came out on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. I got excited there for a second. They didn't skip a console. They ported it, updated it but it came out on playstation 3 and xbox 360 i got excited there for a second that is so there's they didn't skip a console they ported it but it they dropped on xbox 360 that's crazy yeah have you uh have you seen any of the new halo 4 gameplay that's not new like it came out this week or anything but you know like a month ago it came out a lot of people are upset with some of the art decisions you know the lighting looks, the way Master Chief looks,
Starting point is 00:54:25 the way the brutes look and stuff like that. And some of the story decisions they've made where it seems like the elites are back with the brutes now for some reason. They have to update the art, though. Is the problem that it's a little detailed? It looks less detailed, I think, is the real complaint. Oh, I didn't expect that. I saw people doing those comparisons like,
Starting point is 00:54:45 hey, this is what this game looked like, and this is what the new one's going to look like. And it didn't look good. I haven't played Halo since... I mean, I've played them all, I think, but I haven't liked Halo since Halo 3. Halo dropped at a time that I wasn't gaming very much it was like i think school or something and so i never really got into it when other people did yeah i started
Starting point is 00:55:12 um i think we rented like halo halo um combat evolved halo one and then i think we rented halo two and we finished the campaign and it leaves off on that crazy cliffhanger. And then like looking at the calendar, it was like four more months away until Halo 3 came out. So I was just like, fuck, yeah, this was perfect. It was perfect. It went four months, though. I was so excited for Halo 3. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And it paid off. That's one of those times when I was like super excited about something. And then when it did come out, I was just it was perfect met those high expectations it absolutely did it was so good I loved it so much I would I haven't actually gone back and played that when we uh we did uh the first two like the remastered versions they look so much better if you look at the before and afters like night and day better like going from well like what you could expect going from original xbox to uh modern con not even a modern console a pc yeah i'm very excited about updating my pc i i i'm sitting here reading news getting i talked
Starting point is 00:56:20 to my chat a lot about pc recommendations because i fall out of um like i get not current anymore i make a pc and i stop paying attention to like which cpu is the hot ticket for the next three years and uh so now i'm educating myself on on what to do and how to build it and what to do next and you know it my pattern so everyone goes into buying a pc thinking like oh well i'll upgrade the cpu along the way i'll upgrade this along the way and i do too but then what i actually do is buy something and then just don't do shit with it for the next three years and then buy something new like that that's been the my so this time i'm going into it with that in mind like all right let's buy it nice not like you know the most performance for dollar which is what most pc guys do. I just want a high-performing computer
Starting point is 00:57:05 that I can rock for three years or so. I usually buy, I upgrade when I need to. You know, whenever some other, you know, when a monitor gets better and I need more hardware to push it or when a game comes out that requires more, a better GPU or a better CPU. I think last time I upgraded was,
Starting point is 00:57:24 it was game specific. I don't remember which game, maybe Tarkov. It was either Tarkov or, um, or, uh, PUBG or something like that.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Whatever I was playing a rust, maybe whatever I was playing, I wasn't getting enough frames. I was like, all right, well, let's just spend. I think it was Tarkov.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Actually, you were telling me that when you scoped in, in particular, the frame. Yeah. Yeah but like a monstrum scope in particular like for some reason i really like the monstrum scope but whenever i would scope in with it like frames would drop to like 40 and i was like well this is this is not gonna work yeah i the entire upgrade was just to play uh tarkov i wonder if i'll play i play on 40 frames all the fucking time like if i get 50 i'm like this shit's running nice huh this is this map is easier to render i use my my computer's old
Starting point is 00:58:11 it's age now it's the 1080 ti isn't too bad i mean it's gender behind but the cpus are old and i upgraded them but i would have to upgrade the motherboard to get cpus that are better than i have and yeah it's time for a new computer yep you've got a streaming computer now though you can just probably not this thing's so like the streaming though no it's the electric bill kyle like this is a server class computer that i'm running on it has dual power supplies it has two cpus it has like like it's expensive to run it he takes one of the cpus out yeah i probably could do that actually but take a psu and a and a and a cpu out i don't know what i'm gonna do with it like i've considered continuing to put pka on it because it's really reliable like that's
Starting point is 00:58:57 that's the point of it if this computer doesn't crash um and it does pka really well it's not the most demanding thing but i not not demanding i remember it used to be like if i live streamed and watched videos at the same time i'd have trouble and uh now that that problem is solved and it's real reliable that's the point of it but i don't know if i want two computers in the rack or whatever people this idea of a dedicated streaming computer tucker enthusiastically said that is the way to go you have a dedicated streaming machine but you know like landmark doesn't pastille doesn't i don't know if he's right or landmark does out of date oh does he yeah hmm maybe i don't know maybe i
Starting point is 00:59:38 should maybe i'll buy some little side computer too yeah and i don't know that still is the most like tech forward guy yeah i'm stuck on this so when i streamed xbox years ago my setup was complicated you know i got like the i had an xbox that i could play on a tv and i could also stream it to my computer and i had all these hdmi switches and shit just like broke a lot and my my setup was so complicated that it was less reliable and i'm now i'm cautious of going that direction yeah i understand i think it's my guess my assumption is that it's uh you know there's been so much hardware since then that's made to do this that uh it's it's it's a lot simpler than it used to be because you know when we when we first started with those fucking hop hog capture cards and all that bullshit we were
Starting point is 01:00:31 jerry-rigging things to do things they were never meant to do you know like things weren't dedicated for that no they weren't they no one saw that there was a whole business model for it but certainly is now but yeah landmark's been using a streaming pc for it's been months i don't know how long oh i might just be wrong i don't know why i'm so sure there was one but okay i remember when he upgraded like it was a whole thing you know he's been upgrading as he went he got the new camera a few weeks ago um and i got his got his foot pedals and uh and all that shit dude i'm i actually went to amazon and looked at like foot pedals that i like what do you don't have his problems you don't have so many donations overwhelming your stream that you need foot
Starting point is 01:01:16 controls to deal with it like that you're kidding good for other stuff though i thought that what would you put on what would you do with it i i would um it would be game dependent for sure but for tarkov i would make that my lean i would lean with right and left and i would have them i would i would get the ones that we're not where it's not like a block of pedals like i'm doing i'm not doing a racing game i want two separate switches that i can put like where my feet actually are and i can lean back and forth with my uh with my feet i think that would be cool but for like some games like like rpgs for example like like um it would be just be nice if i had like i don't know a healing potion on my right foot or maybe just my sword on my left or something like that just two things that i'm often switching to and from a rust it'd
Starting point is 01:02:03 be great to i i could come up with so many things for rust from like fast building techniques to bandaging and healing yeah you know sometimes like one thing that happens not just to me and tarkrop but f and g are next to each other you hit f all the time to open doors open search people etc and then it's right next to g which is throw a grenade so you know you might get inside a room want to open the door and now you're throwing a grenade in a closed room and it's a big problem so i uh i use e to open doors i put it on my mouse my mouse has a lot of buttons so now i never use f anymore but i i my i hold my hand unlike anybody else i've ever seen i'm sure it's the wrong way
Starting point is 01:02:45 you know i it's like i learned to type with my asdf i i use asdf you know like you type with your hand on the fucking home row keys there's a bump on f for my index finger on my keyboard anyway on every keyboard i've got a i've got a huntsman do you have custom keycaps for your wasd no oh i do that i'll show that everybody are they're colored but they're um if you put your fingers on them they're bumpy so it textured yeah yeah it's real subtle but like they're you know um like a running board it has that pattern with the little like a chrome running board type thing what would that be yeah anyway it has something like that so if you put your fingers on the wrong key you're like oh wait a minute some of these are smooth you slide i use surfboard wax on mine so
Starting point is 01:03:35 it i don't it's just like the home key finder you know like it's supposed it's not supposed to be slick yeah yeah i feel that for sure yeah i but that's just how i learned to type so when i first started playing pc games no one told me that my hand should should not be in the place that it is when you fucking type the other thing you do with a keyboard so uh so yeah i just always learn so when i press w i do it with my ring finger and e i do with my middle finger i don't know if these are things if this is not the right way to do it or not it probably isn't and then my pointer finger my index is just always already on f so getting to g and t or super it's super easy to me for me but getting to left control so many games use left control and i'm
Starting point is 01:04:20 just like the fuck am i gonna get down there shit how i guess i could what no we're remapping this part of my hand that's how i hold that yeah i i'll hit windows key if i do that okay yeah so i just remap it i usually remap left control to shift and uh or caps you know or something like that something that i can actually hit reliably i don't think it's a detriment or anything it's just different no i just do it the traditional way but everyone else does my hand is bad so like i have extra um challenges you're like was d super good i don't know that i really need to get any better at was d but you know if i have to hit y every so often you know then then i'm fucked up like that's a challenge i have to find was d again you know
Starting point is 01:05:11 when i say i'm good at was d usually people mean the whole keyboard but i'm actually talking about those four that's the part that i'm you know you get outside of there where i actually struggle where it matters is hitting the number keys reliably like like I wish I had them somehow like I don't know like marked or sticky or with some rubber key caps or something because games like um rust in particular you have you have like your hot bar of six items and you get to decide what those six are you could have like a bow and arrow in every single one if you wanted to but normally you've got like two healing items um maybe a gun maybe a gun or two guns and then um the next one could be like a rocket launcher could be anything c4 down there and it's really nice to be able to quickly access those things because sometimes it's much quicker
Starting point is 01:06:01 to like in the old cod meme to switch uh weapons then to reload one so it's i quicker to, like in the old COD meme, to switch weapons than to reload one. So it's the best players. I wonder if you'd like an MMO mouse just for Rust. I've done that too. I don't know. I'm so used to this mouse that no one in the world uses because it's a piece of shit, I'm sure. This RAT 6 gaming mouse that's shaped like a fucking starship that no one else in the fucking planet uses because it's i'm sure again that it's a piece of shit but it's what fits my hand well and i like
Starting point is 01:06:33 it i found it i'm going to show it to everybody just shame No, I didn't mean that. I didn't expect it. But visually, so when I was shopping for a mouse, mice that had this, what I'll call a Transformers look to them were a turnoff for me. I wanted something like a Death Ad or something smooth,
Starting point is 01:06:58 you know, a gaming mouse, but not exactly, you know, so Transformers. And then after I started playing tarkov a bit i really needed more buttons you know i i wanted more on the mouse so that i wasn't fiddling with and now my mouse isn't too far from yours really uh okay you know styling yeah it's like it's it's it's how many buttons you got over there i see you got i saw two on the thumb side there's three on this side and then two more up here and then like three
Starting point is 01:07:27 on the top and the mouse scroll wheel uh it also wiggles side to side which is how i wiggle in tarkov but that's like two more buttons that's interesting so uh um i i lean with the uh the two on the on the thumb side of my mouse okay I lean with those. I just feel like leaning with, what is it, Q and E? I get it. Whatever it is in the game, actually. Like, while doing things like crouching and moving in and out of cover and, like, jiggle peeking. How are you fucking doing that, people?
Starting point is 01:08:00 How are you doing that? Like, there's no way you can do that as well as I can. I'm not saying I'm better than you. I'm just saying that this tiny aspect of the game you're not as good as me because it's on my fucking mouse there's just no way because i don't know i would need more fingers and my fingers don't work that well anyway because they do that lock and pop shit like it doesn't work out mine do too um what was it yeah So I usually know that I need to lean in advance. Like, you know, I'm in a room, you're in a hallway, and I'm expecting to come out. I just want to show a little bit of me.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Like, I knew two seconds before I started firing that I was going to lean. And I feel like you're doing it in the midst of the fight as opposed to like a prep for the fight like I do. Yeah, sometimes. Like, I like to jiggle and then fights a lot i'll strafe and jiggle i like all like i'll strafe left jiggle right i'm just trying to keep my head from getting blown off my shoulders headshots so i'm just yeah just trying to be a hard target i whenever i get into a gunfight and i think god that guy was hard to hit why why was he so hard to hit and i'll try to duplicate that i'll try to be the most annoying target i can yeah yeah there's i don't know i like it and it's about like it obviously defense is super important like you
Starting point is 01:09:17 said every once in a while i'm like no if i stand still then i'll be the head shotter you know like like i can and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's probably better to keep moving. But I've been, I've had luck not moving and I've had luck moving. Fans are playing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:36 And I know we're at the hour point, but I just want to say if anyone is interested in a new book to read, I just finished book one of Mortal Engines. I really liked it. I think it like uh considered like a teen book it's a steampunk uh alternate reality it's like 10,000 years into our future after the world it's there is a movie i don't think you need to bother with that i haven't seen it it was peter jackson made it um it's uh it's like 10 000 years in the future everything's all steampunk like there aren't any real computers but everybody's flying all the
Starting point is 01:10:12 ships oh excuse me all the cities are traction cities now they they move around these enormous uh like tank treads and they chase other cities and they eat each other they call it municipal darwinism where the big cities eat the small cities and the fast cities eat the slow cities and you eat them and take all their resources and their people and make them your own and so the story kind of circles around london which was the original traction city and it's it's so far into this phase of existence where cities are moving predators that prey is getting scarce. And it's a pretty cool story. I like it.
Starting point is 01:10:53 One of the main characters is this terribly scarred girl. And they just make a point of talking about how hideous she is. Every time, like in the movie, of course, i think she's got like a little like cleft palate or something like that they're like and like like even on the cover of the movie she's wearing her bandana that covers like the nose down but her eyes are beautiful and like you tell that she was she'd be beautiful like it without her fucked up lip without her fucked up lip top 10 beautiful gorgeous lady in the book she's been and it's from a sword slash
Starting point is 01:11:30 of the face in the book one eye is gone like the nose is gone she's like tearing her lip is like in a permanent sneer that like exposes her teeth and it's just like every time anyone new meets her
Starting point is 01:11:47 they're like oh hello there pretty aren't you a sigh i like to think that they just get like crueler and crueler like you work out a lot but you still can't get fucked can you they do they literally like they're the two of of the main characters, it's this guy that's with her, and they're not in a romantic relationship, at least at first. And they sort of hate each other, but they get captured by these pirates, and the pirates take a shining to the young man, because he's a London gentleman. He'll teach me to be a London gentleman.
Starting point is 01:12:22 It's like the orcs have caught a well-to-do man or elf, and they're like, I'd like to learn to be like you. And he's just like, oh, yeah, I could teach you to be like me. Yeah, just get me out of this fucking cage and don't feed me to the trolls. And so the main pirate just keeps saying to the boys, why don't you get yourself a good looking girl the others didn't like you a lot more if they saw you had a nice girl my own daughter you could have her and he's just like no we've been together a long time really he just doesn't
Starting point is 01:12:59 want to deal with this guy's daughter because there's no but she's just hideous it's it's so funny like like i finished the first book it's maybe 12 hours of audio they must make fun of her face a dozen fucking times and i just started book two right off the bat making fun of her ugly face do they um is it one author reading i'm sorry one narrator reading the it is it is he's doing a really good job i'm reading that and um i'm and and the first book of the Hannibal Lecter series, Red Dragon. I've started choosing books, not exclusively, but if a cast reads the audiobook, then that's a tick in its favor for me. If I hear the book is decent and women read the women parts and men read the men parts,
Starting point is 01:13:43 I really like that. This guy nails accents he's a real roy detrice nice he's uh like there's a there's an asian half half chinese half french female character he nails it he nails it and then he goes right back into old london like a posh london and then a like a lower class london i am the three body problem that guy nailed accents so well because so that book is chinese and everyone's name is z or something like it like this one's xi this one's xie i don't know the fucking like they're so i could only tell who it was by the accents and he did it so well i listened to like i don't even know a hundred hours of audiobook
Starting point is 01:14:25 never being confused who was who because the accents he nailed them so well but still a cast is even better yeah yeah that's um that's my i've only been listening to about three hours of the red dragon book so far that's the if you saw the movie it's the one with edward norton and hannibal lector and they're looking for um um i can't think of the actor's names but they're they're uh they're looking for a serial killer and there's a part where he's reading a woman's diary in the woman's voice and she and she's like dave asked me what i wanted for my birthday this year. I told him you're big prick, silly, as far in as it'll go.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And I'm just like, God, you couldn't even try to be feminine for that one. Like he's got this, he has this deep, scary voice. Jack Crawford said to him, I don't know, but today we'll find out. And then he like goes to the other guy's voice. Jack Crawford said to him, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:15:25 but today we'll find out. And then he like goes to the other guy's voice and the other guy also has, happens to be incredibly gruff and masculine. And then, but when he does women, it's just like, man, maybe they should have,
Starting point is 01:15:38 uh, hired a different, this one in particular has, I mean, there's not a lot of female parts. There's actually very very few i noticed that because in the movies and tv shows they replace a lot of the male characters with women because they're so it's a completely male dominated cast in the books like uh dr bloom
Starting point is 01:15:58 and freddie lounges in the tv show for example are both women no these they're just they're both dudes in the book so you end up with like eight dudes looking for hannibal lecter another dude and it's like all right i guess we left the ladies at home huh ah just like a good book i don't hate that i don't hate that actually like at one of my formula lord of the rings i never struggled but um sometimes the characters in um what the fuck is the one we all learn to hate at the end of season eight game of thrones you know like it's just another dirty bearded character who you haven't seen for a season and a half like
Starting point is 01:16:37 was it the band of brothers is it what is the brotherhood without banners they ended up being a bunch of nothing yeah most of the people did but it's like the brotherhood without banners they ended up being a bunch of nothing yeah most of the people did but it's like the brotherhood without banners i'm like who are these people what is their story again how do i differentiate them from other characters we've barely met or seen and yeah you know this is just a vehicle to get aria closer to the hound again and no one else matters if some of them were like elvish almost you just, just imagine the band of brothers were all good hygiene, well-shaven people. And one guy had the eye patch.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah. That's helpful. Right. But that I'm with you. It was a distinguished 40 bearded middle-aged men. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:17 It looked the same. If some of them just like, Hey, yeah, you know what? In this village, we all bathe daily and shave. I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:17:24 ah, instantly. These are the elves, you know, like I would know, but, uh, you know what? In this village, we all bathe daily and shave. I'd be like, ah, instantly. These are the elves. I would know. But not literally elves. Yeah. That would have helped me follow the story. You would have loved Trivial Pursuit the other night, Taylor. The question was, how many members
Starting point is 01:17:39 of the Fellowship of the Ring were there? And we're just like, nine. Get out of here. Obviously. Obviously. Clearly. Then it's the other team's turn.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Then it's the other team's turn. It's like, this nation was the first to win the Little League Series other than the United States. And they're like, the fuck? No. Cuba?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Korea. Dominican Republic. No. Cuba? Korea. Dominican Republic. No. Cuba was my first guess. Keep going. China. Soviet Union. Haiti. Nope. I don't think Haiti wins much. They got enough on their plate over there. There's just baseball players for that area of the world.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I don't know. What is it? Canada. Nope. Mexico. There you go. You named them all. Was it Mexico? It was Mexico. Huh. You know what? Good for Mexico. Good for Mexico. Are there a lot of Mexican MLB players?
Starting point is 01:18:35 I have no clue. I don't know. It was like 1951 or something, 42 or something when they did that. It was Little League World Series. First non-US team. Where's the most got to be the USA. Yeah, definitely USA. You guys want to call it a show. My dinner
Starting point is 01:18:52 is ready. Same. Same. Okay, I'm going to set up my own. I guess I'll do fall guys. All right. PKN 314.

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