Painkiller Already - PKN 352

Episode Date: May 20, 2021

BKN 352. All right. How are you, boys? Been doing good. Could have been better. Telling the truth or just saying that because it's custom? No, I'm doing great. Okay.

I'm destroying our fucking Discord in Civilization V. It's been fun. It's been fun. These guys think they know how to play. They don't know how to play. Just every night, just invading their lands, pillaging their tiles, raping their women. It's great. It's funny to watch Kyle do that because I don't watch the civilization things, but like I was in there one night, like a weekend or so ago. And when Kyle's in there playing Civ, he's not goofing around. He'll, he'll make a joke

every so often, but he's, he's doing mental math. Like that meme where you got stuff like, do I need to take pottery or no? Because two hours, because 10 hours from now that's gonna send me down the wrong path i need to be doing uh calligraphy to make sure i'm on the right path with my record keeping and like you everyone else i felt like with a couple exceptions but i'd be like hey so and so why are you doing this because i was spectating like you know i just thought i thought i built a spear guy never built the spear guy it's like okay and then somebody else i'm like oh kyle i've noticed you have a huge continent at your at you you could just seize the whole thing and you're like no no need i'd rather not win that way this time

and it was like it's like i'm just gonna build the tallest most powerful like metropolis basically where you just have like a handful of cities and you How did that one end up panning out? Because I stayed for a couple hours, and when I left, it was still phase two of the first part of the beginning. I don't remember exactly which game you checked in on, but I've won, I think, seven of nine, or six of nine. Good record. Something like that. I have very good excuses for my losses. There's a couple times when there were just some shenanigans uh every now and then see when you're playing a free-for-all like that people can team against you which is a real problem um and and

sometimes it's sort of justified right if one guy really pulls ahead from the crowd and we're all like teenagers and he's a fucking grown-ass man like like he's hit puberty way too early like this is not looking good for the rest of us it can be it can be like pm other people but hey man if we don't take this guy out we're all goners he's gonna have tanks and like 100 turns and we're gonna have bullshit it's not gonna go well so you know sometimes that happens and i've been teamed against but also sometimes you know i've i've teamed with people against the guy who's gotten ahead in one way or another too so i think really the way i win more games is by being um as ari says a good liar and a manipulating fuck um that's just playing it well it's like but that's how most strategy games are

that are multiplayer where you can make alliances if you If you're playing seven person magic, the last thing you want to do is be the guy who's like, and I played this card. Every time I gain a life, all opponents lose a life. It's like, you're done. Like, what'd you do? I'm really good at going with the flow and being friendly with everyone and not making my intentions known.

It's like Settlers of Catan. You always want to be in second place up until the final. It's like Mario Kart. You don't want to be way second place up until the final. It's like Mario Kart. You don't want to be way out in front the whole time. You're just going to be eating those blue shells. At this point, Kyle's winning six out of nine. Look, I'm not saying I could win, but I could make you lose. You could sabotage him and set up someone else's victory.

If I'm a big enough thorn in your side that you have to devote attention to say building an army of some sort and defending yourself and etc then uh you know that's gonna hurt you a bunch it's gonna make you not advancing your welcome then i would have to come play it fuck that exactly exactly because because like the way i play now is a little differently like i'm always building an army i usually kill someone rather early um and and then uh so, so for anyone who wants to play, we're playing in the Discord a lot. You need several hundred hours of LEC mod experience. We're playing LEC 28.

We're playing on the newest maps. You know, it came out last Friday, the newest version of LEC. Very cool stuff, new civs. Canals seem lame, but we've either been playing on the team or skirmish map or like four to six person free-for-all. And it'd be fun to have some new blood. civs um canals seem lame but we've either been playing on the team or skirmish map or uh like four to six person free for all and uh it'd be fun to have some some new blood but maybe i wouldn't

make you lose maybe i wouldn't but i could make you enjoy yourself less you would make me enjoy myself more because i would have a target to kill with an excuse to kill them see right now i don't like killing people early because it seems kind of mean because now one of my friends can't play with us but if i have an excuse to kill someone then it's great because now i have all your cities in your capital city even if your cities weren't nice they won't be by the time you get them oh that's fine i turn they never are they never are everybody's selling their buildings and their cities so i can i don't like like don't have spoils of war but i just build those back it's fine i'm telling you like like having someone's capital city just a city with a palace in it is a big advantage, so I don't mind

that at all. It's a lot of fun. I've been playing a lot of hours of that. Played all night last night. Played until, I don't know, two? Two in the morning? Were your compatriots starting to get a little sick of you winning every game?

No. It's not that I'm winning every single game. It's just that I'm winning most of the games. I'm just winning the lion's share. The big of much larger than average lion. I win two-thirds of the games, and the five of them win the other third. Something like that.

If I'm them at this point, it happened to Filthy a lot. Filthy was a better player than everyone he was with, but they teamed against him. He just always had to deal with mosquitoes. That's why Filthy eventually went to playing on the Teamer Skirmish map so that you're playing 2v2 or 3v3 because then it's like, yeah, now we're on a team.

But I got teammates too. So we've done a little bit of that to kind of prevent that. Occasionally we've played some 2v2s and I've won both of those. So those were real fun. Who's the second best sim player? It's between class and Ari. I would probably say class because class plays. I jumped on Twitch the other night.

Even though he's mentally disabled, he's second best. He's a, he's, he's mentally disabled, he's second best? He's very intelligent, man. He works in the tech industry. I know him too. He works at a cell phone kiosk. He's a kid.

I know he does coding and some other things for a pretty big firm. Anyway, I jumped on Twitch to try to find somebody who was streaming Civ because I wanted to see. You know, I'm always trying to learn. You never know everything. So I find this guy who's got like five people watching. And it's like, beer with the boys, Civ tonight.

And I'm like, oh, okay, let's see what this fellow's doing. And it's this Australian guy and he's playing. And he's doing really well. And all of a sudden I hear a familiar voice and I look and he's playing with class. Class is in Australia, of course. So he's playing some like NQ Lekmod game with like other people who are like really good at the fucking game.

And he's like in second place. I'm like, holy shit. I type to him on Discord. I'm like, I'm watching you on Twitch. I'm watching you on Twitch. What are you doing? I'm 20% of your audience right now. I'm 20% of shit. I type to him on Discord. I'm like, I'm watching you on Twitch. I'm watching you on Twitch. What are you doing? I'm 20% of your audience right now. I'm 20% of your audience, yeah. That's funny.

That's really funny. But yeah, I don't want to bore people with Civ too much. But yeah, come play with us if you're into it and if you're good at it. I'm more than happy to play with people who are bad at games when it doesn't matter. Like if we're playing COD or Battlefield or something and you're like, I'm kind of shit at the game. It's like, who fucking cares? Yeah, it's a quick refresh. But with this, it's like a five to 12 hour commitment

and you could like ruin five to 12 hours of my fun. So I can't really afford to play the bad game. If you got work the next day, err on the side of caution and say no. Well, certainly not that. If you've got work the next day, this isn't going to work. Because some of these games,

one game went 12 hours and some games go three hours. It really just depends how things go. If you have work tomorrow, you can't be Kyle's friend. I mean, yeah. It's kind of true. There is some.

Klaus has a job apparently. He's just in that other time zone though. He's like 12 or 16 hours ahead. He sort of essentially doesn't have work in the morning so it'll be like 8 a.m for him on like a saturday morning but for me it's like prime time so he'll get up early so that we can play these big sip games and stuff nice you uh you seem to have a few issues with the blues, Taylor. I saw. I got some text messages from you. Oh, yeah.

What happened? You seem very upset. Yeah. It's just like I thought they got all their bad luck out of the way. Oh, that's how sports work. But, you know, sometimes you luck out. This year the Detroit Lions make the playoffs, and somehow they're good. Anyway, carry on.

Yeah. And so, like, everything was looking up and i was like all right so we've we have no oscar sungquist no matter how long the playoffs go and he's like our best or second best behind our captain defensive forward he's our best penalty killer he's a very important guy and he's been gone for half the season and it's like you say penalty penalty killer so like let's say someone on our team slashes someone two minutes in the box for him. Now we're playing four on five. This guy was like one of the best guys in the league at being one of those four. Cause he's not going to be a guy who ever gets a hat trick.

But like when other teams see him out there, it's like, God fucking damn it. This Oscar bitch, he's six, four. And all he does is make it clog things up and you can't get around him and he steals the puck. And then his job is, Oh, there's 30 seconds. I'm going to go in the corner, try and get it from me. Ha-ha. He slows the game down.

He's a grinder, and so he ruins their opportunities. And he is like a heart and soul kind of guy, great for the team. And we missed him for most of the season. Huge loss. Our penalty killing. Basically, losing someone like that means every time you take a penalty, it's like 30% more, fuck, they might score here. And I thought, okay, we're missing him.

That's devastating. We're missing Dunn, one of our very good offensive defensemen. But you know, with just those guys gone, they could storm back. They could really make a... This could be... Still a playoff team. Still a playoff team. Cinderella story. And then they go, oh, by the way, David Perron

coming off a career year, our best scorer, our best point player, our best offenseman is like pure point scorer. They go COVID protocol. He's out. And I was like, OK, but that just means that he was tested and it came back inconclusive or positive. They usually like do it again and nothing has come out. They haven't added him to the COVID like watch where it's like, oh, wait two weeks and then or whatever the citizen would be. It wouldn't matter.

Two weeks is enough time for the avalanche to be our shit and it wouldn't matter. And so like, I'm not holding out hope. Even the announcement Do you know if he's vaccinated?

I have no idea what the situation is. But and sometimes these protocols isn't symptoms. It's because they're all bubbled so much. It's like, hey, David Perron, you saw blah, blah, blah. And that person who played for the Canucks who are not out talked to blah.

And now, you know, and David Perron could be like, I'm feeling fucking fine. I'm ready to go. I just had a career year. And they're like, sorry, we were like tracking the line. And so basically I was like, oh, my God, like it's over before it began. Like we're fucked. And there were, like, the announcers were pretty good. So, for those of you who don't know, like, Taylor's team and my team are about to face off in the playoffs.

It's a real dream scenario. Like, in the beginning of the year, the beginning of the year, I'm like, I'm going to go with the Avalanche. I'm planning on moving to Colorado. That's going to be my home team. Avalanche. It just makes sense. Plus, they're in the same division as Taylor's team. It makes sense.

We have a little rivalry. We have a little fun throughout the year. And we put that $5 bet. I think I'm one ahead in the end. I think you're one ahead in the end. Yeah, you guys had a comeback and won like two straight. And like some sort of dream scenario in which we get to play each other in the playoffs, which is really cool.

I'm going to try to watch some of the games. It was the last game of the year that Colorado secured it. We would have played Vegas, and then Colorado won. And when I talked about it earlier in the year, like, hey, St. Louis could play Colorado. I was imagining that we'd be second, you'd be third, we'd be third, you'd be second. I certainly didn't imagine that we would squeak in, and we'd be playing the President's Trophy winner, which is the best team in the league for the regular season

and it's oh it was all and like even like the announcers last night i would be watching and they're like great pass to o'reilly you know usually perron would be there uh that's where he would be generally i was wearing my avalanche shirt the other day. I was out and I was in this restaurant and this guy was like, yo, so great to see a fan out here in the boonies. What do you think about Gooby Goff and Chomelchev? Can you believe that we won the Gouminoff trophy and the Imperial Star? And I'm just like, oh, yeah, man, that Imperial Star. That's hard to get.

You know, you got to grind them out though. One game at a time, you know. One game at a time. You know, I like the sticks. They're a tough team. They're a tough team. They come from behind kind of guys. You know, it's been a long year, but here we are.

Can't wait to see how this all pans out. Can't wait for the sticks. Yeah. That works for's like yeah it's just it works for any sport these things it works for any just all this like i hope our story doesn't dry up in the postseason you know just take one game at a time and he's just like yeah for sure for sure and he's naming all these fucking russian and s Slovakian people I've never heard of in my life. And Colorado's a very annoying team to play against right now because Nathan McKinnon is the best player on their team, and it's not particularly close. And he's one of the top three people in the world.

You could argue, top five people in the world, you can make an argument anyway because he's so young coming up. Connor McDavid and Leon Dreisaitl, definitely better than him i would say maybe not even leon either way you don't know who those people are but like every time he touches the puck he's so much faster it's like he just decides to burn past someone it's like god damn it like you can't even grind him hard enough to slow him down because he's a big guy also so uh we had to rely on binnington our neurotic goalie who seems to be like the kind of player who kind of like, you know who Jonathan Quick is, Woody?

Goalie for the LA Kings. Sure, sure, yeah, the goalie for the Kings. Yeah, the goalie for the LA Kings. He won an Olympic gold for the U.S.A. Yeah, of course, of course. But he's another guy who just like doesn't really give a fuck in the regular season, and then he really shows up in the postseason. And I think Binnington may have even said something like what happened with the

game and he's like yeah i showed up nobody else did because he had like 50 fucking saves it was absurd that goal that game hadn't like if it wasn't for him having a lights out game it wouldn't have been four to one it would have been fucking seven to one it would have been a bloodbath and then tarasenko sweet tea he totally totally salvaged the his total i do like that nickname i like that too from kyle but basically he in 2019 when the blues won the cup they were like telling him like your shoulders like terrible and he's like i'm not gonna get fixed we're going on a cup run i i'm you know i can play enough and he did well then year after that totally struggled his shoulder was fucked this year

didn't play hardly at all shoulders fucked and now like you're seeing him get hewed up for these shots and something's off with them and so at the end of the day it's good that he decided to double down it would have been more tragic had they lost that cup and then he'd just be like well my shoulders fucked forever and you know i don't have a trophy to show for it but yeah we'll see what happens with hockey so there's a ton of puck luck there's a ton of nonsense that can still happen yeah a lot some some bounces that could go our way like we saw uh like on the the reddit like thing like tarasenko missed a juicy one i saw like uh you know all the abs guys being like puck luck or like good post you know um you guys know 538 right but most people know for the presidential or i should say political predictions.

They do a lot of sports stuff. And they have definitively proved that hockey is the most luck-based sport. And even without their analysis, you can kind of just see it. So many goals are based on, like, covering eyes and deflections and oddball bounces. And so many shots are taken on pucks that aren't laying flat, that just do random things. Yeah. And I'm not saying the better teams don't win,

but it has a larger luck component than any other sport I can think of. Over a seven-game series, I'd say it's really rare. The better team tends to win, right? Well, how about that? Yeah, that's why they do them like that. But who is the uh the team that wrote the hilarious twitter apology that got mocked for years oh the tampa bay lightning yes i i would argue they play that series again and it goes a different way and heck there was

a team before that it might have been the blackhawks where there was another like hockey meme that came out of it and they're like you know this doesn't seem fair i think we should play it again because you have to get the right outcome yeah that was a that was like you i think it was a nashville predators fan or maybe no it was a chicago fan from like yeah i'm not saying that nashville's the better team but i'm saying hell extend that series three five more games zero percent chance they come out on top. Chicago's shown their tenure over the past five years. You play 10 or 20 of these? There's no way we lose

15. As hilarious as it is, I read those and thought, there's a little logic to this. Agreed. There really is. That's why I feel like the World Series is such a much better test of which baseball team is better compared to the Super Bowl.

It's like the Super Bowl is so like – I mean they had that coin flip at the beginning and then they have a coin flip of a game. Like little things can change a football game one way or the other. You play one fucking game and I get that it's such a physical sport, you really can't, but I don't know. The Braves this year, by the way, not living up to my expectations, or anyone's, frankly. They're an under 500 baseball team, and yet they're still third in their division. They're not out of it by any means, because there's so many goddamn games to play, and there's trades to be made. The problem i think is that like we're one of those teams that's owned by a corporation rather than like a billionaire or even worse though like a hundred millionaire as

midi pointed out like the twins someone who's like trying to use their baseball team as a money-making venture um rather than a like a passion project uh Liberty Mutual Group or Media Group or something owns the Braves, and they're really conscious of their bottom line. So we often trade for these guys who are beyond their prime or just really risky. Like, oh, yeah, he just had knee surgery, elbow surgery, and shoulder surgery. But the year before, he was an all-star. But four years ago on the Mets? We literally buy guys just like that, like all the time.

And they often don't pan out. Or we bring up these young kids who aren't ready, and they get fucking emotionally scarred by what happens to them in the big leagues. But the other night, we faced off against the Mets, and we took a new approach and I think this might be a new kind of hard-nosed baseball that we've developed I know we can't show clips

but just click play alright I'm watching ah did he do that on purpose? right in the kisser did he mean to hit him in the face? no god no nobody means to do that oh boy Right in the kisser. Oh, my. Did he mean to hit him in the face either? No, God, no. Nobody means to do that.

Oh, boy. Look at the blood. Oh, no. I just saw the blood. That guy looks like a hockey player now. That's a broken nose. That's a very broken nose. So for those who obviously can't watch, this is a Braves pitcher being a Mets player right in the nose.

Right in the nose. Oh, yeah. Not just in the face, in the nose. Right in the nose. Not just in the face, in the nose. The pitcher looks concerned. Everyone's concerned. No, not in hockey. Not everyone, Kyle. In hockey, they'll accidentally hit a guy in the face with a puck and be like, yeah, that'll teach you to stand there.

No, that's not how baseball players are. Nobody likes this. These guys are often friendly with each other. The pitcher was probably going to dinner with this guy afterwards. Oh, no. In hockey, it's like, hey, if you want to stand in the front of the goal, that's where I'm shooting. There are risks to standing there.

I suggest you move over to the side because in front of the goal is dangerous. Fuck you. That's hockey. No, that's a bad look. That's not baseball. Baseball's a much more friendly sport. But generally, you're never gonna take a shot in hockey and try and hit someone.

Like, you're always gonna try and find a thread, like, and score. Like, if you shoot a puck at someone intentionally, they'll know because they'll be like, you're a defenseman in the NHL, you're not gonna raise the puck accidentally seven feet by the time it gets to the defenseman headshot.

But no, they will absolutely just, if there's a player there, they'll pound it on goal. Oh, for sure. Yeah. They'll try and scare you into, cause that that player will go down and like the I'm blocking a shot and they'll just hammer it. Players will drop to their knees.

For example, there will be a player that drops the knees or slide sideways to stop stop a shot like a soccer player maybe i'm trying to describe it and um uh you absolutely shot you don't courtesy non-shoot because someone's there there's a price to be paid for trying to block shots you muted kyle that that is true but what they'll generally do instead of blasting someone they'll like try and do do a little toe hook and make them look like an asshole and sliding away, and now they get a freer shot. Maybe at the higher levels. Yeah, that makes sense.

Maybe at the NHL level. Hey, I noticed you shot it right at the meaty part of his thigh. And we lost the game because I pay you $9 million a year. You need to do it. Yeah. of his thigh and we lost the game because i pay you nine million dollars a year you need yeah the only way the only thing in baseball that's similar to that i think is um in base running right like what about crowding the plate nobody really does that okay uh they do it in movies is there any penalty yeah i don't know why i mean you just get hit if you crowd the plate i mean the guy's still gonna to throw there.

Like, it's not going to bother him. Like, he doesn't care. Like, he's going to throw there anyway. Nobody's – So that's an example of when it would happen, I guess. Like, I won't courtesy non-throw. Oh, people will get thrown at. Like, if you do something out of sorts, then –

Like, if you hit one of our guys, we're going to hit one of your guys next time. Especially if you hit, like, a pitcher. If you hit, like, a key it's it's clear it's intentional and like there's this tit for tat that escalates in baseball so like that's what i was gonna ask though they don't if i accidentally hit the oh if it's clearly an accident like like let's say there's there's already a man on first and like it's two outs and you've been a guy it's like he didn't mean to do that he the last thing in the world he wants is to put another base runner on right now he wanted an out so is there a punishment here for that guy is it like a no no no warning um i doubt there was even

a warning issue that's clearly a mistake like nobody wants that that's never done like that should be a bull durham thing we're just batters are generally concerned now you know what every fifth ball goes wild i mean i would be concerned if the next batter is concerned like there's no way you come up after that walk through the blood and like you aren't concerned you know like even though you know they have like a shield on them any of those some of them have i don't think i've seen a face shield in the majors in a long, long time. I've seen the, there's this little guard that comes around from the ear that extends to the chin. I've seen those.

But as far as like a full face guard, I haven't seen one of those in memory. Why are there no, cages are illegal in NHL level hockey, right? You need to have an injury to be able to wear one. Yeah. The, the only time in recent memory, I can remember a player being forced to wear a cage is when, during the Stanley cup final,

the blues and Bruins where someone took a shot and it hit off of char's stick. And then it broke his own jaw and they made him wear one for the rest of the series. But I thought like his jaw was wired shut within it. And so like, I guess without like you said, they made him wear one for the rest of the series but i think like his jaw was wired shut within it and so like i guess without like you said they made him wear one but i don't think you can opt to wear one if you're uninjured no no you can't they won't let you um because i like if i'm sean avery i absolutely opt to wear a cage like sean avery kyle in there he's that annoying guy that

waved a stick in front of the goalie's face. Yeah, yeah. So a guy like that would be like, this is just enabling me. Fuck all of you. Now I can't be punched. That might be why. It might encourage shittier behavior. Like, because now all that they encourage you to do is wear a shield. Like boxing headgear? I'm pretty sure the...

Yeah, so then if someone punches your helmet off, you've got headgear under it. That's face shields. They cut people all the time. Oh, yeah. Right in the nose. Because they get punched by it, and then it pushes the whole helmet, and then the plexiglass thing digs in. Oh, punched by it is one cause. There's all sorts of reasons your face shield could get pushed in.

You could be bumped. You could fall. The puck could hit it. In the case of a puck, it probably did its job. get pushed in you could be bumped you could fall and you get the puck could hit it and like well in case of a puck it probably did its job but yeah anyway players get cut on the note the bridge of their nose constantly from those face shields i'm just like that's a bad solution we're gonna look back and think they're dumb kyle i think so or like or at very least poorly designed right because like no very sports equipment is usually so well designed in the modern age. It's like every piece of like in paintball,

for example, I feel like, man, a lot of thought went into this mask. Like my, my mask doesn't fog. It doesn't hurt my ears. Like it just,

I could wear it comfortably all day long and not mind a bit. Like if, if you're, if your sports gear doesn't meet the, all those criteria, like it hasn't been perfected. So I think the real issue is that these hockey guys are so fucking tough and enjoy the toughness of their sport.

No one has really put the time and effort into perfecting the face shield. They don't want it. It's like the Hans device in NASCAR. Nobody cared until somebody died. Protection doesn't sell in hockey at all levels. Our best player doesn't use a face guard at all. I think he's the the youngest my age ryan o'reilly the youngest player in the nhl to get grandfathered in with the face shield

thing because apparently they told everyone yeah everybody has to have a face shield now and he threw a fit and was like no it impedes my vision and my seeing i want my whole fucking face out to get destroyed and they're like fine ryan jesus you can it is a bit of an issue have you ever everybody else they got grandfathered out of it it was like late 30s early 40s and then this one guy who was like 26 was like you can't fucking make me have you worn a half shield taylor have you done that no never so this picture uh you know a half shield you can imagine a piece of glass to your nose but you're frequently looking down where the puck is. So that division between looking through a shield and not looking through a shield is always in an important spot.

It is an issue, but it also protects your eyes. Yeah, I get it. It's a real, man, that's a decision to make. I noticed that hockey players are a bit like MMA fighters in that they sort of wear that jack-o'-lantern grin with a sense of pride almost. Like in MMA, they get the cauliflower ears. And I always hear people go, yeah, I'll get it fixed after my career. There's no reason to get them fixed now because they'll just get done again. And yet I've never seen anyone get them fixed after their career, like not once. Yeah. I was on when I went to Japan with Joe Lozon and his crew, his crew all had those cauliflower ears,

not me, but there was like the, not subways, but like trains that go up into there. Sometimes they're L's. Sometimes they're subways. Japan trains are crazy. And they were like getting respect from the whole train.

So many people go into this arena and stuff. And you see these guys who are just like they weren't lean like fighters were, but they were built like, you know, fireplugs and they had the cauliflower ears. And you could just see it. People knew Rampage Jackson's crew saw them and they're like, oh, you're one of us. I'm not one of them, but it was cool to be with someone who was one of them. You see that unfortunate cauliflower ear sometimes where it's like,

we would have known you were tough eight breaks ago, and it's become like growing outward. Yeah. It's just a... Michael Chandler has one of those. It's so gross. Did you watch the fights the other night, the lightweight championship? I watched the five main ones.

I didn't see any prelims or anything. Yeah, that's what I did as well. I skipped the prelims. And I actually watched the main card on mute anyway. I was playing Civ. But I felt terrible for Ferguson. Ferguson has lost so many fights now. You're right about showing Chandler's ears.

Yeah, Chandler's ears are gross. I was happy to see Oliveira win because I feel like UFC is home team and there's Bellator guys or like the away team or something like that. Like we're AL, they're NL or something. So it would have felt bad for Chandler to come in and immediately rise to the level

of champion. It would put some doubt into the idea that the UFC is the premier fighting organization. That this guy can just come over from Bellator and yep, now he's the champ. I had all those same thoughts until like a month ago. I watch a lot of

pre-fight hype and build up and stuff. I like Chandler. I like that Chandler, he's down to fight. He doesn't like long turnarounds. He's not particular. He thinks he's the best in the world. Therefore, whoever he fights hardly matters.

That guy will get second one way or the other. He has this bravery. He's smart. A lot of times when a guy gets in their 30s, they lost a step. They're not sharp on the mic anymore he's sharp and then the guy he's fighting long time UFC established dude I think he has the most fights in UFC history for first title win it's like a weird stat right but yeah hardly anyone has taken 29 fights to get a title win uh you know but by the time they get that many fights they're not at their peak so that's charlie oh but he doesn't

speak english he's brazilian and portuguese i really prefer english speaking champions for sure for sure i do too he's got an odd look about him like like anyone who's listening who's not into this shit look at charles olivera look at his he's got this incredibly chiseled face because he's so lean but then he's got this blonde hair and he's brazilian so he's brown skinned and it's a very odd look he looks like uh uh like someone from i don't know a sci-fi movie or something what is his name again charles olivera um he does actually it's funny i could totally see this like here's a picture that looks like someone in a sci-fi movie what is the one with bruce willis and that really hot chick um she's willis and the hot chick yeah what's happening

in the movie or in the future uh it's in the future. The hot chick is like a perfect specimen. Ah, the fifth element. Yes. Mila Jovovich playing Lilo. Is that who he is? Lilo? Yeah, it's Mila Jovovich. In any case, who's the high?

Tucker, maybe? The high-pitched black guy? Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker. Charles O. looks like Chris Tucker a little bit to me. I think he plays like Rowdy Rod something. That's a weird like... Yeah, that sounds right. Rod's Rod or... Rowdy Rod? He's got this weird name. He's like this very effeminate like pop singer or like host of like a radio type thing or

something. Some sort of entertainment type guy. And he gets, he's like the comedic relief of the movie. He's um well all of the whole movie's a little silly it's a good movie i i can't remember where it was made it wasn't made in the u.s it was made in like france or something like that it's uh it's a real oddball sci-fi movie it's good so tony ferguson keeps fighting tough opponents he does and he keeps losing did he fight olivera not too long ago? I think so, yeah. That didn't go well. And who did he beat?

Gaethje beat him. Oliveira beat him. And then... I think there was another one in there, too. He may be four down. And partly on this losing streak, he looks like it's over for him. But partly he just fought really tough guys. I think what's going to happen is they're going to give him another fight. And if he doesn't win it, it's done.

I think so too. You know who I'd like to see him fight? I've got it. Honestly, who I want to see him fight is Diego Sanchez. But he's gone. I've got a different one. You think Cowboy? Cowboy is who I think he'll fight.

Nate Diaz is who I want him to fight. Ooh, not that. Tony Ferguson, Nate Diaz. Yeah, they're both cooked, man. He's going into that legends area where there are people who built up good names but are no longer at the top of their game. Sometimes they match them against each other.

You know what they should do? You feel that way about Nate? Yeah, but I think people don't know it i mean i i think nate is still got it i i think that because he is a boxer i don't think that that goes away quite as quickly as like some of the other skills i think that he's still as tough he's never going to be not as tough it seems his real downfall is that that scar tissue and how easily he's cut open. If he could get that fixed somehow with some stem cells or something,

I think he could be right up there in the top three. His last two fights are getting smoked by the overrated... What's his name? Jorge Rivera? You say he's overrated, but he's a bad motherfucker. It's Masvidal. Masvidal, yeah, yeah. Jorge Masvidal wildly overrated. You rate Masvidal sovidal yeah yeah jorge masvidal wildly you rate masvidal

so lowly but but like i mean he keeps losing fights he's lost to the 170 pound champion twice it's like who wouldn't at 155 got smoked who what you'd have the only person that got knocked out by a wrestler the only person who wouldn't get knocked out by Usman is like what? Fucking Khabib? Like you bring Khabib back in. Maybe he has a chance against Usman. Probably not. Usman's a bad motherfucker.

You're going down a weight class. But yeah, yeah. I hear you. That's what I'm saying. We're at 155 anyway. We're talking about like that's who Nate lost to. He lost to a 170. Matt Snell to me is so overrated, but we'll see.

He'll get more fights. Well, maybe. He only takes these high dollar, easy fights. He's smart. He's smart. I think Colby gets the next shot, and then we'll see who Masvidal fights. Masvidal might fight a Conor or something. And also, Chael Sonnen says this a lot.

He's like, you don't get better at a thing by not doing that thing. What are Nate's last fights? Did he lose to Conor and then lose to Masvidal, and that describes his last four years? better at a thing by not doing that thing what are nate's last fights did he fight do you lose to connor and then lose to massive at all and that describes his last four years does that sound so much he that's one way to look at his accountant is saying the last two fights have been incredible just keep it up nate keep it up you made four million and then and then four and then 3.5 million in two years it's it's. I think he's doing just fine. These guys are making –

I'm not saying his bank account is too low. Just that if I'm trying to rate if he's going to win or lose. Oh, he beat Pettis in there in 2019. He has a win against the ghost of Anthony Pettis. Yeah, Pettis is another one of those guys who's just falling off the track. He's out of the UFC, I think. Oh, that's right. I think he's in Bellator.

Yeah, they pretty much didn't re-sign Pettis. So his last good win was against Conor McGregor in 2016. And then he has a loss to Conor. A good Conor, 2016 Conor. He beat Pettis and then lost to Jorge. Anyway, yeah, so I think Tony Ferguson versus Nate Diaz would be a really interesting fight. I, but I don't expect it. I would like to see it because they both have the cardio.

They're both tough as nails and going to the ground is unlikely. Um, Nate doesn't really do that. Um, he can, he can play, he can play, he's got a good guard. He can play defense, but, and Tony's kind of the same way he can, he can, he can play off his back, but it's not really hype. Neither of them like give an inch. They, they just, they, both of them are so sure they're going to win. And, and there's something cool about when two guys are about to fight and each of them think it's a ludicrous concept that the other guy thinks he could win too. Like, are you serious? It is disrespectful to me that you think you might win. You need to show a little deference to the fact that I'm much better than you. I am tougher. I am stronger.

I am wealthier. I'm better looking. I'm this. I'm that. I'm everything on you. And the fact that you're not giving me that respect right now, I'm shocked and insulted. And they both approached the pre-game. What a slap in the face that you've shown up.

Yes. Yeah. And something about that dynamic I love. And Nate Diaz always brings it. Ferguson always brings it. I want to see it. I want to see it. I want to see it. I want crazy Tony back.

I feel like Tony might have gotten some mental help. And I think maybe some drugs. You know, like some antipsychotics or something like that. And that has really diminished his skills. I think peak Tony was kidnapping, going to the desert to flee the apocalypse Tony. That was a scary fucking Tony. Hear me out. Hear me out.

Tony Ferguson goes on Joe Rogan's podcast. And then for reasons unexplained, he's on psychotics for the, until his next fight. On psychotics. Not anti-psychotics. Psychotics. Joe puts him, he's like, you need some psychotics. Have you ever smoked bat shit? This is the opposite

of lithium. It's going to make you crazier. This is shit purified after being taken from rabid bats. Rabid bat shit, Tony. Do you know how hard it is to find bats with rabies and COVID? Well,

you feel more aggressive when you eat them. And then we fermented it in LSD, Tony. That's what he needs. He needs to go into crazy land again. When he was crazy, he was a scary man. I thought he was going to beat Khabib. I thought Khabib was dodging him when Khabib was having kidney failure and stuff. I thought Khabib was dodging him when Khabib was having kidney failure and stuff.

And when they were going to fight in Vegas and Tony's ready to go. And then Tony blows his knee out, tripping over a fucking extension cord and all that shit happened. I remember thinking, like, Khabib's going to take Tony down and it's going to be the biggest mistake of his life. Because Tony is just going to cut him to pieces with those fucking elbows of his tony has his like arm dislocated and he didn't tap he had his knee busted up in his last fight and he didn't tap right so now the question the internet's been asking is just how good was that cable right the one that he tripped over that sent him to the hospital tapping tony is probably one of the top three toughest guys in the fucking UFC. He got into a heel hook

Taylor and it's this move where he's sort of bent in a very awkward way. They grab your foot and keep twisting it until your knee breaks. He's twisting the guy's foot in a very awkward direction I can see this gentleman doing it I heard Chael Sonnen describing because I don't know a lot about heel hooks

it's either Chael or GSP, but they were like, you know, when they teach you how to do a heel hook, they tell you, if anyone ever has you in a heel hook, tap immediately. Don't wait until it hurts, because it never will. Your knee will be a bucket of bolts. Just tap. If they've got it, you tap. Tony's just going, Randy Couture told Chael Tunnington.

Yeah, and the guy who's bending it, he's like, I heard it pop. He refused to stop. Where I trained, you were only allowed to do heel hooks to blue belts and higher. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense heel hooks to blue belts and higher. Yeah, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. That may even be too early.

It sounds scary. I wouldn't want to be in that position. Because unless you can recognize that you are in a heel hook, you don't know you're in a heel hook. You've got to have that level of experience, I guess. I wouldn't know if you had me in a heel hook until it was far, too late until i was on crutches and someone was like yeah that was a heel hook until you were contacting your attorney because because what happened in most submissions like it kind of gets worse and worse and worse and if you don't tap you you can sense the oncoming injury in a in a heel hook like it doesn't really hurt prior to injury.

So there's a balance. Anytime you train between like, if you just tap at the moment, your opponent starts to get a foothold on a sub, then you've never, you're not defending any subs. You don't learn anything on that. A lot of them are very defendable.

Arm bars are defendable. Yeah. Yeah. Chokes are very defendable. Yeah. a lot of times there's an exit to these things you know maybe if he doesn't have everything locked in there's a hole in that grip um but with the heel hook if you make that same if you just follow that same flow chart like i don't think it's too bad yet i don't think it's too bad yet i I don't think it's too bad yet. I don't think we're in too deep a hole. Then you can find yourself injured. That's the trick with He-Lux. It goes from zero to 100 way faster than any of the other submissions. An arm bar, you're starting here, and he's straightening it out,

straightening it out, straightening it out. And even once it's straight, there's that moment where it's like, all right, this hurts. There's kind of that pause where it's like, do you want me to break your arm? Because I can break your arm right now. You need to tap. All right, now your arm's broken.

They always give you a moment. Nobody snaps it. I've never seen anybody just like get the arm bar and then just immediately like. At the pro level, that happened on Saturday, didn't it? He wouldn't tap. He wouldn't tap. He didn't just like.

Maybe you're right i need to say jacare duchelle sun and phrased it really well so jacare was a perennial contender right he was always like one fight away from getting the title for this long period of time a lot of people upset he didn't get the title shots he deserves cool he fought last night he wasn't on the main card this is a guy who was always a main carter and he got his arm broken and chel son and phrased it really well he's like i don't know what's worse for his career that he had his arm broken in a fight and just got beat that easily or that i didn't know he was fighting and i was like i'm in the same spot i like jacare i'm interested in this guy this guy i mean you could just everyone watching maybe knows their own sports figure who

was the best guy in the world five years ago you still have an interest in him you'd like to see him play and uh i didn't even know he was playing yep didn't know either uh the only the only reason i knew is because, like Chael, I heard he got his arm broken and had to go watch the clip. You know who needs to re-sign these people? The Atlanta Braves. Nice time. Tony, we need a pinch-based runner.

We heard your knee is going to be repaired in 6 to 12 months. $4 million a year. What do you say? They're like, oh, sure. We need a good right-hander behind the... Taylor, that was solid. I didn't see it coming. I thought, I'm like, Bellator?

Why would Taylor make a Bellator joke? The PFL or not? No, thank you. No, I mean, it gets some asses in the seats. If they don't care about winning at all, just get some absolutely immovable Grab a child from the stand and starts running because that's what he does. Yeah Probably the Braves as they care. I just don't care enough. They don't want it want it like I get it

I was there good this year Cardinals are good this year. Yeah. Yeah, Cardinals are good He's twins or fucking basement dwelling just getting their shit pushed in. Middie, worst team in baseball. You know who's as good as any team we mentioned? The Philadelphia 76ers. Oh. They finished in first place. I know you don't like their Phila uniform.

It's awful. Phila? Phila? It's Philly. I'm not even from – you know it's Philly. Those should have been immediately sent to Kenya. Like, make a New Jersey... It was like those were misprints,

and they were like, we've made $30 million worth of these. Do you realize that? Have you seen the Miami Vice uniforms? Miami Vice? Like the TV show? Miami Heat? Well, it is the Miami Heat,

but this uniform that I'm talking about is called their Miami Vice uniform. It's like a white blazer. Oh, no. It looks like this. Oh, see, I got a problem with that. You don't. I like this. I think that's kind of cool.

I think that's cool. Like, it's a little gay. It borders on being a little gay for some reason to me. Like, the colors are. But those are Miami colors. That's that, like, neon Cubano kind of look. I'm down with that. Okay.

I think they canceled them this year and they are their number one seller. And I thought that it's not dichotomy, is it? Anyway, I thought that. I like alternate uniforms. I like away uniforms. Let me show you what the Bulldogs like black uniforms look like. They're sick. what the Bulldogs black uniforms look like. They're sick.

Yeah, I usually prefer the darker color uniform to the lighter barely use their colors away form. You don't really get a good vibe in that one at least. But yeah, I think this is a really cool jersey. This Miami Vice one.

I'm the oddball here. I hate this jersey and I think it looks really bad on the floor, but it is the most popular sales jersey. And I know I like it more than the Filla. The Filla is so silly, dude. Yeah, Filly. Hey, what do people know our city as?

Philly. What, are you not from here? Everybody says we're heading down to Phila. Hey, we're gonna head over to Phila and catch a flyer game. And it looks even worse because it's painted on the floor.

It's painted on the floor of the fucking of the, um, I like their Sixers uniform. I think you'd like it too. It's fine. Yeah, I love the Sixers uniform. That think you'd like it too. It's fine. Yeah, I love the Sixers uniform. That's their best uniform because it makes sense. Put another L and a Y. Just make the letters a little smaller and you got a cool uniform.

You know what they should do? They should take the worst of both and call them the Sixers. Well, the Sixers have the best record in the East. They have what seems to be the second best player in the NBA this year that's what the MVP predictions are and um a real shot at winning the thing so we'll see how it goes like why aren't they the Philadelphia six shooters or something and have like revolvers as their as their thing like like cowboys with revolvers I'd be down for that Texas to me I it does it does yeah but it's it'd be cool I that. That feels Texas to me. It does. It does. Yeah, but it'd be cool.

I bet it's better than Fela. I like 76ers. It looks like a tie. You know, my idea for Uniform was to put 76ers on it, but then every player would have the same number, so that's not good. Problem. Problem.

76. Over to 76. 76 having a terrible night. Yeah, the Sixers would be perfect the Sixers jersey is perfect but every time I've like watched one of their games I watched a couple games last year when I'd see that fill a thing I was just

what? is that real? it looks absurd get rid of the A make all the letters a little smaller add another LY you've solved it but I like throwback jerseys a lot. I like when baseball does that. The Braves have cool throwback jerseys. That's a nice jersey. That is a nice jersey. I like this one too. They don't use it anymore, I don't think. It's the older one. Yeah, yeah. I've

seen that jersey and it's been years though, but I like that jersey. And then who else? Is the Astros? The rainbow one? Yeah, I like that. Like the Nolan Ryan colors. Okay. I like throwback jerseys. I like retro jerseys. In baseball and basketball.

I like when football has the black jerseys. Like the away jerseys. Like the Bulldogs do. I like all that shit but that philadelphia jersey is the nastiest thing i've ever seen it's unimaginative but i like brooklyn's jerseys there's something retro about it i like it it's it's plain it's understated it's like i like it black and white like the whole word on there how do they engineer an entire word unlimited resources

so the basketball is an interesting landscape this year there are a couple of teams that have had like this brooklyn team those three players in that picture are some of the three best players in the nba and all season i think the three of them have been on the floor together for like seven games. But they'll be together for the playoffs. So you almost don't know how good this team is. They barely had an opportunity to show. We're going to see. It's almost like an all-star team.

Have you ever heard that an all-star team would never beat the championship team? Because they don't gel together. They don't know each other. We're going to put that to the test. This is kind of an all-star team in basketball that's barely played together. What can they do? It'll be fun to see. Yeah, I've often wondered about that.

I think it's probably somewhat true in a game where there's so many plays, like football or basketball even. But like baseball, I feel like the all-star team beats the the champion team every fucking year oh yeah 100 they've got like if you took the best of the nl and made an all-star team and then they played against the american league championship champion team they win every fucking year because they've got four all-star pitchers like pitching is so big like it's incredible and i feel like every one of their guys is hitting over 300, there's no weak points. It doesn't require the same level of

coordination. The one caveat to football I might make, it requires a ton of coordination, but there's an opportunity to set it up carefully. So it's like, if I gave them two weeks to study, that team is a lot better than they are on day one. That's very true. Maybe.

If you could get them all under one uh offensive and defense or one offensive coordinator one defensive coordinator and look look we've got this is the playbook this is the playbook these are the names of the plays because everybody's got new different code names and stuff like like different names for plays like you know the qb you've probably seen them they've got that little wrist gauntlet with all the shit written on it like everybody needs to be literally on the same page and then i think you see something i don't think we need to like be shoulder to shoulder with our comrades to win a game though like they hit the pro level right but yeah probably if i come onto that team like i ever would you know i'm like all right i know this play as this name you know now i'm up to speed

cool and yeah but let's see basketball would be super interesting uh i could go on the lakers are about to play golden state and it's they they did something interesting for the playoffs to make it it used to be top eight teams made it eight played one two played seven three played six etc now the top six teams get in and they await to see what the eighth and seventh and eighth seed are going to be doing wild card stuff now i have to think ahead seven plays eight and nine plays ten you with me so far and then the loser loser of 7-8 plays the winner of 9-10. And now we've determined the last two seeds. So there is an advantage to being 7-8. When I first saw it, I was like, that sucks. I almost want to be worse so I can

play the weaker team. But it's like, oh no, you'd have to lose twice in a row as a 7-8 not to make the playoffs. The Lakers and Golden State, who've had injury issues and such, are almost unnaturally low-seeded, but now they're firing on all cylinders, and they're going to hit a one-game playoff

to see who goes. It's like, oh yeah, this is cool. This is like a dream scenario. They're both in California. It's fun when those games at the end of the regular season matter. Right now, the Vancouver Canucks and the Calgary Flames are still playing games because of COVID stuff during the season. Neither of them have made the playoffs.

And so all the memes right now is like, oh, just like they said before, and Vancouver playing in the postseason. And so like and there was one like meme where it's like, what was it like Bill and Ted's where they're like playing hockey and it's got like their logos and like car and they walk

over and then the playoffs. Keep playing. And you can watch and see these guys so don't want to be there like you like they really even with stats to consider. I feel like You can watch and see. These guys so don't want to be there. Really, even with stats to consider, I feel like basketball has entered the analytics age where it's almost like everyone's playing money ball. Back when Jordan played,

they just looked at how many points he scored. Now they spend a lot more time looking at his efficiency. How many shots did he take? How many touches per point? How many this and that? And it's to the point where, like, let's say the halftime buzzer is about to go. I quick pass it to Taylor. Why?

Well, Taylor's had a turnover. I didn't take that half court shot, which was surely going to lower my shooting percentage, right? And I'm trying to be a 40% three-point shooter here. I'm going to huck it from the opposing three-point line? Fuck that. That hurts my percentages. You know, like, so players are playing the analytics because analytics drive the contracts. And

you say these games don't matter. I'm like, ah, in basketball they'd be like, okay, who hasn't scored yet? You know, like everyone would be scoring. They'd be running it up. Hawks are in, right? Yeah, I'm almost positive. Oh, wow.

Yep, yeah, they're fifth. So they're not even in the play-in game. Yeah. Can you see right there who they play? So fifth, they're going to be playing against... The Brooklyn Nets, right? No. Right?

Two versus five? Three versus four? No, I think it's going to be one versus eight. You just don't know who eight is until the playoffs, until the play-in games are done. And then it will be two versus seven. And then I guess the... Yeah, four versus five. why is this complicated to me

they're going to play the Knicks okay I tricked myself or something I was like oh we got to figure out the play in games no no no it's 4v5 it's easy I wish I cared enough to care okay I really do

a part of my brain for a moment was like we want to see if we can get a ticket? And then I was like, of course you don't. Well, for what it's worth, the Hawks started the season super poorly and they ended really strong. So they're one of those teams where it's like, oh, maybe they're better than their fifth place seed implies.

Perhaps, yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, it can be interesting who goes into the playoffs hot you know that can be a big deal i mean they started and healthy three and 16 like it was something super duper oh my god really i i might be wrong but it it i mean if anything near that that's just abominable yeah i think it's something along those lines yeah i just can't get into uh to basketball i i something about like i don't know there's so many fucking games and it doesn't seem like a lot of them matter and i mean it's the same reason i can't get into regular season baseball too much like like

i just like i watch i watch us play and unless we're playing like the number one team or the team that's right ahead of us and it's actually going to step us up in the standings, I really just don't care at all. Social media has made basketball more interesting, though, because only half the games on the court. Oh, the players are talking to each other. There's some smack talk. There's some rivalries like there's some. Genuine friendships and enemies that happen in the social media play. There's this one guy,

Kevin Durant, arguably the best player in the last five years or so. Um, who is so social media sensitive, who routinely gets caught for using burner accounts that say positive things about himself. Oh, it's great.

It's like Kevin Durant fan. Number one, he's like, you put in all the effort and he's working so hard. He's like, why do all your tweets have to do with Kevin Durant fan number one. He's like, you put in all the effort and he's working so hard. He's like, why do all your tweets have to do with Kevin Durant, man? He's like, that's not even true. Like really name searching himself on social media. And it's just like some guy in Nashville being like, Durant looking like a fool tonight.

And then he'll just like name search, find this guy. He didn't even add him. Well, you haven't considered. His off the ball plays are important, man. So, yeah. He tried again. He's like, I've learned. He got busted more than once. And I think that's hilarious.

It would make some people hate him or think less of him. To me, it just adds to the tapestry that is the NBA social media landscape. Like there's – I just want interesting shit to happen, right? I don't need winners and losers. I just want things. And some of – like last year, I was on this Mitey Stiebel kick. He made a YouTube channel and the guy was like a better vlogger than most youtubers and i thought he hired a professional editor i figured like this is too

good for someone who's new to this to be creating and shirt in one of his vlogs he covered like this is where i edit i'm in a bubble in orlando there are no editors coming in here. This is just me at this computer doing my thing. And it was like, damn, I like this guy. Yeah. Oh, a little bit of entertainment news. I know you like Love, Death, Robots, right? Oh, I've watched maybe two so far. Okay, yeah, season two is out.

There's only eight episodes this year. There were like 18 last year. I know, and you might think eight episodes is enough, but they're like 12 minutes long. Like it's not a lot. Like it's two walking dead episodes. Yeah. Yeah.

Like for anyone who's uninitiated, they're really good. We've talked about it multiple times, but check out love death robots season one for sure. This happens every show where it's like, Oh, for season one, 20 episodes.

You're like, awesome. Season two releases next year. And it's like six, eight, maybe nine one, 20 episodes. You're like, oh, season two releases next year. And it's like six, eight, maybe nine episodes. Like, what is that about? Are they just stringing Netflix along? It's got to be pandemic related. We'll give you another scene.

It's got to be pandemic related. But it's animated, right? Yeah, but that still means that people have to work on it. In collaboration. There's animators and voice actors. And, you know, they have to to i'm sure it's pandemic related like it has maybe it'll reverse yeah i'm watching i don't know it's lame it's it's lame is all i know because i was so excited when i saw it came out i haven't watched it yet i'm gonna try to

watch it with someone uh but the uh i clicked it and i was like eight episodes like i expected you know 15 to 20. so this is not a spoiler but i want your analysis on it the second one again this doesn't you learn this in the first seconds some people are modded which means they're like almost superhuman when you get to the end and you finished it i'll ask you was he faking and that's it i'll stop there i want to know if you think he was faking. Okay. I will remember that. Watch it and get back to you.

Yeah. I've also got a bunch of people apparently watching Invincible. I know Chocolate Thunder was messaging me this morning. Like, just fucking, I think he's Team Omni-Man, too. I like it a lot. I look forward to his analysis. I'm so Team Omni-Man on this. He's also Team Fuck Amber. I'm pretty sure he's I look forward to his analysis. I'm so team Omni-Man on this. He's also team fuck Amber. I'm pretty sure he's an Adam Eve girl, guy.

You know, like, I can't wrap my head around some of the decisions some of these people are making in this show. I don't get it. Omni-Man is clearly the one who's making the most sense. And Adam Eve is so much hotter than that bitchy chick that he met in high school. I don't get it yeah i was about to say a spoiler but uh i'll just say i'm team eve also stop there enjoy enjoy invincible gosh it's on amazon if so if like everyone has you don't need to watch this shit for real it's very fucking good everyone has amazon prime that's i'm watching walking dead with colin now so i know the

world thinks walking dead had like three good seasons and the rest were not good but to colin this is his first what i call an adult show right you know like it most shows in this world are like parks and rec or the office and everything works out well and it's funny it's cool bad shit happens in walking dead your favorite character in walking dead dies there is not another show in the history of tv that i can think of that killed characters as well as of walking dead all your main people died there's like almost 100 turnover and rick dies in walking dead so we don't know for sure okay rick effectively dies and leaves the show so and i just jump in and say the reason they killed so many characters off is because they fucked over robert kirkman and all those actors are incredibly loyal to robert kirkman they work on robert kirkman

projects and so they were like oh you're you're getting rid of robert we're gone too he's the one who's made invincible and uh and Glenn is Invincible. Cool. I actually didn't know Glenn's my favorite character. That would have been a plus to me. He's Invincible. But while I'm not doubting you're right on that, I also think Walking Dead is just free

to kill people. It kills lots of people. And it's Colin's first exposure to a show where good guys don't always win and stuff. He realized And it's Colin's first exposure to a show where good guys don't always win and stuff. So he realized he sort of forgot some of the details of it, maybe a person's name. And he wants to rewatch it. And he wants to rewatch it with me. So I signed up.

We've watched three episodes so far. And he loves it. He loves it. And he's so happy. you need happy colin is fucking hilarious like we finished watching the show and i'm talking to jackie and he's just climbing me like a monkey like hanging on me arms over my shoulders like dad and i watched walking dead and it's like easy i broke my finger but you're muted um yeah that's the best part is like there's so much more to watch watch one it's like would you like to see another yes there's a lot sorry that was it

well that's the last episode they ever made, unfortunately. It's my favorite three-episode series. They almost get to the part where the zombies show up. We're going to watch it tonight. We'll watch it after this. Shame Rick never found the rest of the group. Yeah. Look, it had the potential to be an incredible, incredible show. And they really threw it away.

The network ruined it. And at least the network ruined it. I agree with everything you're saying, except that it doesn't give credit to the end half of a season, the beginning of half season where we met Negan. Because that might have been the peak of the whole thing for me oh i give big credit to that that is the best it ever was which is like i don't ruined like in your narrative right like um i think that it would have been infinitely better if you'd had guys like and i forget character names but um the older guy

who was uh losing his hair who was always the one fixing things. He was the one fixing the trucks and vans and stuff like that. Dale. Dale should have been disemboweled unceremoniously outside the farmhouse in season two. Like, that was nonsense. The lady who kept her mouth open all the time, I was fine with her being gone. I was going to keep going. Close your mouth, honey.

There's a fly in there. Was she the blonde woman? Yes. She was horrible. She was. She was. Yeah. There's nothing to be annoyed.

I didn't realize she was in the first episode. Second episode? Yeah. And I'm like, oh, God. And so it begins. Where it's like they're in a bunker. She's like, I'm not going to leave she's like i'm not i'm not gonna leave this elderly man to blow up alone and then she dies there also or did they remember for sure

she had been bitten she had been bitten she'd been bitten thank god yeah she got bitten after the governor had taken her hostage or something like that um there was a whole thing with that she seemed like a character that might have stuck around longer if the actor didn't suck. Kind of like George's wife. She's another Robert Kirkman thing. She asked to leave. Is that what happened? She asked to leave. Because the fans hated her too. We used to root for her to die on TV.

We always rooted for her to die. Like us here on the show. Because if you watch The Mist, which is also a Robert Kirkman production, she's right there in that. She's the blonde lady from The Mist who's like, you know, trapped in the supermarket. And the lady who like runs out to go look for her children and doesn't stay behind and hide. She's like, I'm going for my kids. They're like, you're going to die out there. I'm going for my kids. And at the end you find out she got her

kids. Everybody else's kids are dead. That's the chick from Walking Dead who's super hardcore with the shaved head. The older lady, kind of gray with the gray hair. She's Carol. Yeah. Oh, I remember liking Carol. She's a good character. Carol's sick.

Dude, yeah. I forgot how bad Carol started. So I'm in the early episodes. Carol is a true, like literally a beaten woman. Her husband beats her and she's frail and scared in every way. I guess I didn't appreciate just how much her story arc made her a badass. Yeah, it's great. Great show.

Could have been anyway. Right. Could have been great was good and uh there are excellent seasons i'll say that that negan season that first negan season amazing season one is amazing maybe it's season three or four that i really like too but other than that like i have a hard time i used to go to walking dead viewing parties okay like i went to a bar i've talked about it before where everyone sat down in silence and watched the it was an event for me in my life and it went downhill yeah being in atlanta might have uh helped with that too huge here like i live minutes from where

they filmed the like i'm watching now and like i'm seeing atlanta uh skyscapes is that what it's called when like oh yeah the horizon shape of the skyline skyline that's what i'm looking for i see the atlanta skyline and just like um the mountains and such and i'm like i bet this looks familiar to someone from that area you know they just oh for sure like the actual area where they film film is like not far away there's like two general areas like one's i think in griffin and one's uh somewhere else and like i've been down there and like there's one place where like they make it a tourist attraction that the walking dead is filmed here there are zombies walking down the sidewalk like in full makeup like

they look so realistic like it's it's like and and being in the first shows the zombies are not that decomposed and i guess i didn't fully appreciate how like in the first shows the zombies are not that decomposed and I guess I didn't fully appreciate how like in the very beginning the zombies were freshly dead and the show did a good job of representing that anyway Colin's loving it

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