Painkiller Already - PKN 362

Episode Date: July 27, 2021

pkn362 taylor you are our fact checker our research extraordinaire you are um an unstumpable resource on the wings band twitch partnership thing yes well i've i've been looking into this for the better part of 20 minutes now and can i just lay out yeah he's got banned from twitch now he's not banned he He lost his partnership. So like, I like it my way better. Basically, if you lose your partnership, the same thing that happened to destiny when he came on and was like,

yeah, so I can't get like subs. There's no sub button anymore. Uh, wings said on Twitter, that was about half of his total income that he just lost overnight from that. And so he's already switched to streaming on YouTube.

I think he's live right now. YouTube, as you know, if you stream, is way less monetizable and it's less intuitive to donate and do things like that. So if you want to make good money on streaming, Twitch really is, they're optimized for it. Can we pause on that? Why is YouTube less profitable than Twitch? It sounded like you're saying stream size for stream size,

it's still less profitable. The Amazon Prime subs are huge. Everyone who has Amazon Prime gets that. When I'm streaming regularly, hundreds of my subs every month are just people being like, oh, five bucks to throw to him every month for free to me because I get it

through Amazon Prime. Boom. For people who don't know how this works, probably most of you do, but I like to give people background. If you already have Amazon Prime, boom. For people who don't know how this works, probably most of you do, but I like to give people background. If you already have Amazon Prime, then you get one free Twitch sub. And Taylor was saying a lot of people just toss that his way.

So Taylor, normally you pay $5 to sub for someone and Taylor would get $2.50 and Twitch would get $2.50. With Amazon Prime, Taylor gets 250, but it doesn't cost you the five carry on. Yeah. And that, that additional thing means that hundreds of people watching you, if you have a significant audience like wings does can all just be like,

yeah, I would never take five bucks out of my account for this guy every month. But as long as this is free, fuck it. Like I'll throw it his way. And those really add up if there's a couple hundred of those people. Yeah. And so basically he tweeted out that he got in trouble for part D of the user content, which is under promotions.

And I was reading it and it's talking about how like you can do promotions and say like you're getting a sponsorship or you're giving away something, but you have to be explicit saying that like this is a promotion being done by me for xyz company twitch has nothing to do with this they're not a part of it and then they make sure that you handle it something else i saw and i don't know enough about him like i don't it doesn't seem like he runs promotions or like things like that often so i can't imagine what that would be i saw someone else mentioned that in the past he's done uh he's had people pay for unbans and that is against terms of service so like if i've been someone from my channel and they message me saying dude 50 bucks

your paypal right now if you unban me like that guy and if i say yes like i could report me and i could get my partnership taken away he's saying zach is saying that he's saying that it's uh it's from the fps boot camp and from uh the surgery that uh that he's banned i guess i guess like talking about both of those things in some way um so i guess the real message here is you're welcome zach can you expand on that he's saying it's the fps boot camp and the surgery that okay yeah why would that be a ban or a loss of partnership yeah i don't know either of course this is coming from wings mouth so yeah i wasn't aware of that but i mean like dude that's like i feel really bad for the guy

can i know it it looks like he raised money for FPS bootcamp and he raised money for the surgery. And he was complaining about the begging for donations for those that his ex phrasing is confused. I would like a paragraph. You said fragments are hints and I appreciate them, but we do know that he did a lot of sort of fundraising drives. I guess the boot camp was from PKA, but the surgery was on Twitch.

Yeah. Just to be clear, Kitty set up a whole Kickstarter for him. And then we handed him a check for $10,000 roughly. So I don't know. I don't know how he's like. And even raising money for the surgery i don't get that wouldn't be allowed because you can go to a million streamers and it will legit say at the bottom five thousand dollar goal for a new epic pc set or whatever it is

so i could go on vacation you raised money for that one gentleman to buy himself a sex toy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not aware of that. I don't know what we're talking about. But I believe you. No, no. You had that fundraiser so that guy could buy that $1,000 sex toy. Oh, yeah.

Let's leave that out there with no context. Let's not. Perfect. I'm just going to explain how I didn't, how I did that. Right. I don't, I'm a hundred percent accurate.

I'm not, I'm not twisting any facts. These are facts. This is the no spin zone. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know what the hell the real reason is behind it. Like it is odd that sometimes these like bands will be like someone,

this guy did something in 2014 or this person did something in 2017 and it's like okay so they just had you in their sights and they decided now's the time and they just kind of backwards rash because they can ban anyone at any time for any reason they don't have to give you any explanation at all uh right i i bet wings probably knows more about it than he's saying or maybe he didn't i. I don't know. He made a 16-minute video. I only got a couple minutes in. I watched a different guy's recap. But yeah, he even said on Twitter, he's like, I lost half my income because of this, and

I have to decide if I even want to continue working online or not. And it's like, but even so, because of the amount of time he's spent out of the traditional workforce, this is probably his best option. Like as far as like, what is what could he really do? If Wings delivers my DoorDash, I'm like. How many fries were in here when you picked it up? The little security seal. This looks like two thirds of a fry.

seal? This looks like two-thirds of a fry. He does that move where he takes one slice out of the pizza and then shifts them all back together. Did you do that? Yeah, to make a slightly smaller pizza. He's got a sauce on his face when he comes to the door.

Making a slightly smaller pizza with a bunch of gaps in between and out. How would that work? You pull the slice out and then you shift everything back together. You just push everything a little closer. Is that how pizza works? Yeah, it is. You need

an exacto knife. You're going to have to re-angle all the slices. Of course you're going to have to re-angle all the slices. You can't just eat one whole slice. You have to take a little from every one. It's like when you shave too much of your beard and you have to keep going up and going up until it's just a teeny little pie. I know exactly how that is. That's what happened this week.

I saw it. I was going to say, you look fresh-faced. You look young. You look good. What made you do that? Was it an accident? It was a fucking accident. I have a digital thing and it's got a memory mode and it's like ah let's go to setting number one and instead it was like you want it all off huh and i had already gone like and i had like shaved half my face is it broken so the reading doesn't represent

the link or you just didn't look at it carefully i just did not operate it professionally. Because mine broke in that way. We used to have the same one. Oh, yeah. Do you use the Noreco? It's green? Well, no. Mine is... One blade or one? My current one is black and shiny with a digital display.

I've got a couple, but the one that I used that did this was the black shiny one. I think it's either a Phil Norelco or a Simmons. I don't know. I've got a couple of them that are roughly the same price point, somewhere between $75 and $125. The Norelco is pretty nice. I like for a cheap thing. I like that a lot. I think it's green by

the bleed, right? Like a little green highlight. I think I have that as well. I got the one Kyle suggested. I loved it for a while. The depth is set with this like digital display and it's in millimeters you want half a millimeter you want seven millimeters whatever and

it got to be that that the display and the depth didn't match up anymore and the only settings that worked were all or nothing and it just didn't work for me it broke so now I got the other one and i like it yeah it's simple almost can't break and the twitch world all pointed me to it i was like guys i need

a new one like what do i get the chat just started streaming with the same answer the same i'm like oh my gosh unbeknownst to me like everyone learned a couple of things like which beard trimmer to get and maybe the electric slide and then i'm left out in the cold not knowing either of them but now i know yeah well yeah i was officially endorsed the norel noreco one blade i don't know there's no way it's noreco isn't that what it is there is an l it. There's absolutely an L in there. That's not the one I have. What was that word that somebody would say? Oh, who was it that couldn't say? Oh, it's

Dian. Dian can't say Tylenol. How does he say it? He leaves the L out. It's Tylenol. The L is one of the easy ones to hit in that word. You would think so, and then you say Norelco. Norelco. Okayorelco, okay.

You act like I left out the L because I couldn't pronounce it. It's because I forgot. I didn't know the name of the brand. That one's pretty much the one I have. Mine's just slightly different. I linked it in Amazon. Yeah, this looks like the new gen.

This is nicer than mine. Maybe that's the difference. This one has a dial, just one head that you dial in. This one has a dial. Just one head that you dial in. Mine also has a dial. Oh, well then I have the old one. Either way, it's good. I feel pretty bad for Wings with the

Twitch loss of partnership. I imagine he's going through a pretty rough time right now. The number, Kyle, is the battery charge, not the depth. I feel you my my battery lasts so goddamn long like i feel like it charges twice a year i i don't know i store it on the charger that's the thing i like um the other one i store it on the charger because it feels organized right instead of one that like lays down and you charge it now and then i like it to have a spot

yeah i i only like trim up like once a week normally so i just keep it in a drawer but um but i'm sure i know you do that you shave a lot so like it makes no sense i don't even know if it's that i shave a lot i just i all my shit should have a place i'm big on that i haven't lost a tool in 15 years like my shit goes right back where it belongs and that's why i like my shape it's very hank hill of you i like that is it he never loses a tool like they all have like dust surroundings on the pegboard all the same place yeah uh kyle i i finally gave that show a watch i guess both of you guys were talking about a while ago love death robots yeah i swear you watched season two so i found out that i i just

hit start on the top of the list assuming the topic it goes down no i saw like a few of the old uh the new season rather and i was like the whole time like this is one of the worst shows i've ever seen like what am i missing that kyle and Kyle and Woody like? The giant who washed up on the beach. That's the one that I told Woody not to watch. It was so bad. Then there's that gay doctor who's just so fascinated with him, talking about him rotting and now he wants to walk on his hands

and touch his nose. I kept waiting for something to be revealed, for something to happen. At first I thought he'd come back to life. And then he just rots more and more and more. Yeah. Then it just ends. It was horrible.

It wasn't interesting. It wasn't fun. It wasn't even the premise to a story. The first season is so much better. Now, let me ask you. What am I the ones in season two? Season two was mostly a bomb. But there was one where all the kids were genetically modified

and they do these amazing gymnastic stunts and taunt a monster or something busting through the ice. I'm sure I've got this about one third, right? At least. Yeah, I enjoyed that one. And it's funny. He said, you like that one? Because that was the second one, because I guess it's the second most recent episode that it went to. And the animation is so jarringly bad that i got about two minutes in i'm like i

can't watch this i absolutely can't watch this low quality of animation if this was a video game they wouldn't release it and like it was so i skipped that one and then i saw like then i saw like the giant one i started skipping around and then i texted you guys and was like this show fucking blows man like what are the good episodes and kyle was like suits and something else and something else beyond the i remember suits because that was the one i liked the most with like the futuristic farmers wearing their cool mechs and shooting all the bugs and and it was like okay that one's better because it it it told the whole story in the 12 minutes.

It didn't tell part of a premise like the giant one. A couple of the space ones were neat. But overall, like even season one, it was more misses than hits, I feel. Suits? You're on your own on that one. I walked into Suits thinking that, well, these people are like killing prairie dogs. They routinely win this battle all the time. Oh, no.

This is a tough battle, and it doesn't go all that well. It is like fucking heavy shit starts going down, and it was good. I like it. Yeah, I think season one is, for me, season one is like almost all hits. There's like maybe two misses in all of season one. I liked that there's a vampire episode.

I like the episode where that girl is some sort of a steampunk Fox sex toy. I like that one. i know that sounds absurd but that's almost that's literally what she becomes she becomes like a steampunk fuck toy it's like half fox it's awesome um and um the samurai guys chasing her around when she's like yeah yeah yeah um i like beyond the aquila rift a lot though that one is first of all those animated titties are just perfection all right those those are some incredible titties you weren't you aren't turned off by like the uncanny valley face movements and like corner of mouth like i i don't like the the video game faces in a lot of them there's just something odd about like like their foreheads don't wrinkle their eyebrows don't like the the video game faces in a lot of them there's just something odd about

like like their foreheads don't wrinkle their eyebrows don't move naturally like you can tell like it looks really close there's something wrong about that and then like any sort of close-up you're like oh that's what it is this is like when it's 99 of the way to getting to the cut scene after you're transitioning from the gameplay well i'm not going for realism like i i view it as animation i view it as animation There's only a couple of them that are meant to be like that are like hyper realistic and they're both in season two In season two. There's one where? this guy is on another planet and he's like an albino who can regrow limbs and

That one is incredible animation like there are several parts of it where I'm like, oh shit this is real are this they filmed like the outside part as real shit and then they like animated characters into it or wait wait are they just using real characters and just like animating over their faces like um like that keanu reeves movie um scanner darkly i think yeah and uh and then there's um another one with michael b jordan where he's like some sort of a like starship trooper pilot or some shit fighting some giant alien goliath ship thing like like with a whole squadron and his uh his ship crash lands on an asteroid and he's running out of oxygen and he's a little bit injured and he like jumps in this life pod and inside the life pod like the maintenance drone is malfunctioning to the point where it views him as an enemy and so he is like yeah i

saw that he's having to like sit you saw that one that was a good one yeah that was a good one the animation that looks looks super hyper realistic one that like i just i looked at the list of episodes trying to be like okay there's no way i hated all of them one that you didn't mention that i liked a lot was the dump that like oh yeah who who lives in the shit pile and he has like the auditor whoever you know government agent come in and there's that big trash monster. It was goofy and off the wall, but the animation matched the vibe. So I liked that one. It was a cool little premise.

I haven't seen it in a couple years. I had a friend over a month ago or something, whenever I started talking about it again. Actually, not too long after season two came out and uh i was talking about it and instead of watching season two i was like let me just show you season one we watched like two or three of my favorite episodes from season one but yeah i think it's really good um i i like the the quick episodes there's one where this guy is like chasing a girl through the streets or something like that from building to building and it's like a like um there's like a time loop going on that one's really good i don't know i like almost all of them commit a murder and she tries to track him down and then she kills him

in the end and self-defense and then she notices he caught her killing him and she has to catch him and yeah that was interesting and i liked uh liked the kind of silly futuristic makeup and aesthetic of it. And then there's one where there's like three little robots that are like Pixar robots. And they're like traveling together and like the humans are all gone. And so they're like in New York City or something, like going down the street. And they're like, yes, this is where the humans used all gone and like they're so they're like in new york city or something like going down the street and they're like yes this is where the humans used to live yes and as you can see here this is a dibbly do the humans used it to to wash themselves and it's like a telephone or something i can't remember exactly what it was but like like they're like trying to like

pontificate about like humanity and uh yeah they're like piecing it together with very little requisite knowledge for what things do yeah no i dig it a lot but i if you started with season two i could see where you were like the fuck am i watching as soon as you were like this like dead giant on the beach what the fuck is i'm like you're on season two you're you're on season two you have fucked up you have fucked up well i blame their system don't start from the most recent episodes if you think that system is ridiculous for season one they had this thing where no one saw the same episode as their first episode i mean some people basically it played on shuffle for everybody like when you press play on season one

it went shuffle and uh and so we all saw different episodes so so people would be like hey did you see episode one they're like yeah yeah with that that space travel shit that was nuts right they're like no no i saw the the three little pixar robots my person was the three little pixar robots and so i was like trying to talk to other people they're like no no episode one is with dracula no they've got the shit on shuffle that's weird interesting way to do it i don't like it yeah but they should put other shows on shuffle just to fuck with you like well game of thrones oh god let's you start with the last episode everybody's like you know what i don't think i'm coming back do you a favor

why am i watching this if you if you started on the last episode with seeing nothing else, they'd be like, wow, what a bunch of action. I can't wait to see all the reasons that this happens. Actually. Yeah. If you started with the last episode,

you'd be like, this is a bad show. I can't, I bet they did a really good job at like getting to this point. It, but it all makes sense. Why'd that little girl kill the ice man? I can't wait to see that long build they must have had a rivalry yeah that wasn't the last episode but that's oh

yeah that jumped out at me as being the worst part of the last couple episodes where i was like this just doesn't make any sense john's supposed to kill him in a real battle not in a sneak attack even even the actor like who plays john that's exactly what he's like. I was supposed to kill the Ice King. I don't know what happened. It's like, yeah, man, we know. We're all on your team here, man. I want the Ice King

to win. It would be neat if just one of these times it didn't wrap up in the predictable way. That would have been a better ending if the uh if the ice king had just won and they had all turned to like blue-eyed fucking ice king people that were whatever the fuck um i don't even remember what they're called anymore and i'm glad i don't dead characters come back and you realize they're ice kings i don't remember what they're called

anymore white walkers yeah white walkers yeah i have forgotten that and i'm glad i i'm glad i have forgotten it fuck that show i got out of the shower today and i thought about how angry i am i think about it it's like it's like one of those like awful memories that you've got there's like eight of them that we've all got it's like oh this is one of mine this is i'm getting there are stormlight archives i was thinking about it stormlight archives dude the motherfuckers got one idea there's this concept of stormlight which is like mana and it gives our regular dudes turn flying superheroes with magical swords and shields and plates and fucking shit like magical world it's their mana all right all they ever do is run out of mana again and again and again this is the most like come up with another goddamn plot device there are 450 hour books this

is 200 hours of content this is like watching eight seasons of game of thrones four times and it's just like well i'm a little low on mana i'm concerned about being low on mana and it's just again and again and again it's like dude another fuck it i'm listening to stormlight archives at this point out of sheer discipline to finish the fourth book just give yourself a break and you'll want to listen to it again but like i don't mind that like it i like that it's a realistic downside of it constantly that it's not just like they have powers and they have them always and they just always will have these things like i like that they have to time it out they have more stringent limitations than like an

actual superhero would that if they don't have that storm light like they're just a guy like for the most part who's like famous in the world but like so i i enjoyed the give us a nice clash of the titans give us a good like caledon with fucking bucket loads of storm light and some barrels behind them just in case going up against this radiant who knows what the fuck and they're clashing and the thunder's clapping and that this is happening and like let's go balls to the wall with this thing instead of constantly book three you're done with book three yeah okay well then there was the huge you know battle at the end of that that went on for like 60 pages that was he does do battles well they don't even know what he's saying half the time,

and I'm completely invested. Yeah, he's just like, you know, Kaladin struck wind stance and then realized because he's in a hallway environment, wind stance was not the appropriate way to handle this. Now he's on to, like, horse stance or something. And I'm like, horse stance, good choice. I also would have picked that i don't know what the fuck they're talking about all i'm taking away is that this guy's well

trained for every situation and you know that he's moved from the spear to the sword to this that he has a uh uh it's called a spren which apparently is like an angel but more of a faggot and but it can also turn into like various weapons it's a good explanation yeah and it can turn into weapons so like in mid-fight if you're like eight feet from me it's a spear and i'm poking at you then you get too close and it turns into a dagger and then you back away a little bit. It's a sword. And, uh, it it's, he's just describing these site, these fights and all this stuff that's happening. And dude, I just endure this book as we go from sword fight to sword fight. You just want to get to the sword fight. I mean, the fights are great. And unlike like Lord of the Rings or even Game of Thrones, like he'll get like literally, Kyle, like 40 pages into the same fight.

And it's like, this is outrageous. This guy's fighting. That guy's fighting. This guy died. That guy's almost dead. And then it's like, and the sun began to go down. Now the real fighting begins. And it's like and the sun began to go down now the real fighting begins and it's like it's

like 50 more minutes good lord the last 100 pages of every book is just a hundred percent climax which i like a lot that can't be because he reads the fucking potions out of the appendix in the audio version i've stopped listening to it i'm like i will not potion section i tried to read it and i was like i will cross this bridge when i come to it i seriously like i skipped the potion section i tried to read it and i was like i will cross this bridge when i come to it i seriously doubt that it like this was my thought process i in the at the end of the first book i was reading some of the potions and i was like i number one i feel like i'm studying now number two like there is no way that it's going to be like and i used the juniper berry potion or caledon used the juniper potion which you will need to see appendix 1a

explain what it is so i don't really need to know the depth of it it seems like a lot of fantasy books and i enjoy them too they're really about the lead up to the fight and then the fight can be a bit of a disappointment in this series everything's a disappointment except the fight he really nails the fighting itself. Well, the fighting is one of the best parts of it. All the action. He describes it really. He's good at describing it and helping you picture it.

But I like the character development and the plot build up to. I really enjoy that. There's a couple of characters that I'm bored by or not as interested in. But for the most part, I like all of them. Like Dalinar and Adolin and kaladin and all the dens and even shalon jasna they're all good uh lift that little girl i she sucks she is not interesting what she just likes she's a superhero who uses her powers to steal food like some sort of disney character she's just a really effective vagrant yeah i i don't get her um her power is

just not impressive where it's like i can slide around really quick and you can't hold on to me and it's like one the one time that they called on her like hey we might need you in this situation she went head to head with someone who had the same power as her on the other team except was really good at it. Yeah. And just blew her out of the water, and she had to be like, someone else with better powers, you need to assist me. Her powers are those of Aladdin before he

met the genie. That's what she can do. She's a street rat. She is a street rat. And like, some of that dialogue is, that's something that I'll say. Wit, who is like the king's wit, who's a very interesting character. Him, he's interesting.

And Shallan, they're both interesting and some of their dialogue is good. But a lot of their dialogue, especially together, is so like there's so much exposition. There's so much like intentional wordplay. You generally don't have like important like back alley conversations by the paragraph making like clever jibs and jabs and it's like okay well this is not realistic for the scenario you're in if you're having dinner at your little palace have your back and forth if you're preparing for battle don't do that more girls with magic no you know what it is they're me, their dialogue is like when Littlefinger or who's the bald unit dude versus Varys. Yeah, their dialogue is on that level to me.

It's all sort of clever, second meanings, wise observations. This guy, Wit, is some sort of god who's a thousand years old or something. And he just has a lot of good insight and he views all of today's drama kingdoms rising and falling through a different lens because he's so old the uh anytime varus i mean anytime uh little finger was on screen i was interested and i was like oh i need to pay attention little fingers say he's plotting oh he's plotting he's plotting come on little fingers plotting right right he's plotting. He's plotting. Come on. Littlefinger's plotting. He's always manipulating.

Because he was the catalyst for the entire story. Essentially. He did the whole thing. He's the problem. He's the fucking problem that started all this just because he wanted to fuck Katniss. And she's not even that hot anymore. Katniss? You're probably right. That's also the name of a Hunger Games

character, so I'm mixed up. You know what? It's impossible that they have the same name. Is it Katrin? Katlin? I know he called her Kat. In Game of Thrones? What's her name?

Katlin. Katlin Stark. I got Katpiss Everdeen. Yeah, that's her name? Catlin. Yeah. Catlin Star. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got cat piss every day. Yeah. That's that's. Anyway, maybe I'm giving it too hard a time, but yeah, I was, I turned it off on my drive home. I was like, you know what?

That's all I can take. It's all I can handle of this right now. I need a break from this book. Yeah, I'm done with my break. I think I'm going to jump back in to book four tonight. No, I've taken a nice long break from it. And now I know I'm going to do the content too quick, and then I'll be disappointed that I didn't take a longer break.

Has reading this book cost you a lot? Are you doing it when you could be streaming? I'm like, I wonder if Taylor spent $ break. Has reading this book cost you a lot? Are you doing it when you could be streaming? Like, I'm like, I wonder if Taylor spent 25,000 reading this book. It basically like, like my end of the night time where like, I'd be,

you know, watching a movie or watching TV. I just substitute that with reading instead. And it's like, which it doesn't, it's not even like I'm sacrificing watching shows. Cause like so much of the time now I'll scroll through and it's like which it doesn't it's not even like i'm sacrificing watching shows because like so much of the time now i'll scroll through and i'm like this there's nothing that i want to watch on any of these apps well you know i could re-watch something now i'll

enjoy like the new book content i have for me i'll put on like a background show and then read that or i'll put on uh some relaxing music which is probably healthier for me than having uh like you know family guy playing at low volume in the background being distracting or either that or it's making me smarter because i'm learning to absorb the book and family guy jokes at the same time and you spell Spell all the useful traits of the modern American male. People grade you by if you spell something wrong, everyone thinks you're stupid.

That is true. Dirty misspelled one time in our poker chat. What? What are you going to do? Oh, that's a good one to misspell. Getting the literate wrong. And it's spelled phonetically, so there's no excuse.

He only used one L. He's quite the fool. Quite the fool indeed. But he's up on money in poker, as are you. So I'm sure that soaks up a lot of that. Yeah, I think he's doing pretty well on their trip. Like a bunch of our $50 patrons all went on a vacation to Detroit, to where one of them lives.

I think it's Antagonist and fucking Dirty and Fish and Cello and Alexander. They're probably leaving somebody out. The $50 hangout was last weekend

and Dirty was just eviscerating some guy. I wanted to jump in and moderate it but like my connection wasn't good enough if people don't know there was a scheduling conflict and taylor was unavailable next weekend and i was unavailable last weekend so i attended the best i could while i was unavailable It's going in and out of the woods via a cell phone. Okay. I pop in and Dirty is like, you, I hate you. I tried to turn over a new leaf and be nice to people

but I can't imagine being nice to you. The moment you said you got a big boy job working with Magic the Gathering, it was done for. Do you remember more of his monologue? It was more like,

first of all, the guy's being tongue-in-cheek saying big boy job. Do you think he's being genuine? I thought he was. So I'm making this up. It has no basis in anything factual. When I heard big boy job, I thought, oh, I bet he got health insurance at this job. That was

my assumption. There's no way he's getting health insurance working at a Magic the Gathering store. I don't know. Does he work at a store? Yeah. He doesn't work for like, what are they? Wizards of the Coast. He doesn't work for Wizards of the

Coast as some sort of regional manager of faggotry. It's a cool game and you like it. I like it. I like playing with you. I would play a game called Faggots of Catan with you if that's what you want to play. It's also a fun game. You've got to rim the sphincter

first and then we can intrude. You suck my dick and I'll give you two wheat. Oh God, not again. How much wheat does it take to win? 10,000 wheat. Does manna come out of this? You can eat my dick.

Yeah, it's... He works at like a card shop um is my understanding and and look it's fine we're in a card shop i'm not shitting anybody's fucking profession or their job he looked like a very young man all these people are young yeah it's every now and then you're like the one guy you're like you're like oh yeah you, what are you like 50? And the guy's like, I am 27. It's just like, fuck. It's been a rough 27 years.

Hey, my favorite part of the hangout this past one was everybody showing their soup cans because apparently there was a challenge of squeeze a Campbell soup can as hard as you can and try and get it to burst with your grip strength and nothing more with just one hand. And Kyle and everybody else, like Kyle got further than anybody else in the discord. And then Nolan, who is an absolute monster. Come on, come on. I'm squeezing it so goddamn hard hard I'm squeezing it so fucking hard You didn't see it Woody

But this guy he led up to it Like he's a soft spoken Gentle giant kind of guy And like Dirty was being a dick To him or something and Nolan was like smiling Along and somehow it came up that like This guy benches 405 Pounds for reps and I was

Like are you being serious? Like that's, if you're not into weightlifting and you're in, you're a natural lifter like this guy, like that's a, that's a strength level that most people cannot hit naturally. It's an unnatural level of strength. And he just heard on the Lark.

He's like, Oh, you guys are doing a grip. Uh, Campbell soup can thing. I think I have soup and you could tell he knew he could do it because he came back with the can and a plastic bag. And then he reached his hand down for. He's the kind you use a can opener on.

He's still close. He just grabbed it down there. And it was, how long was it, Kyle? Two seconds. He just goes, pow. Oh, no. And he's got sauce all over his hand. and then like he like kyle asked later to clarify he's like you didn't use two hands right you just used one hand like to be sure and he was

like yeah well i did break it with one hand but then i used the other hand to hold it and dump the stuff out so that it was more dramatic looking. And he said that like it was like an admission of a lie. It's like, no, you destroyed that with one hand and then dumped the sauce out. So shout out to Nolan on the grip strength thing. That's unbelievable. It helps that his hands look like they're the size of dinner plates. You know, that can't be harmful. I did.

I popped in. My stream kept coming and going because people don't know. I was on my motorcycle doing trail riding, and the internet connection would be off and on, as you might expect. And I just hear, did you just break that with one hand? Did you just break that camel soup? You didn't have the floor or anything. You just kind of did it, and it got noticed.

Kyle texted us just now, said that his power went out. So I don't know if he's gone for the whole show or what's up with that or how he said it'll take a bit for his router we'll figure it out oh he said storm back now it'll take a bit for router okay so he'll be a minute there we go do you have any more trips on the horizon or are you are you not tripped out yet i feel like you're going too hard in this just like stormlight archive and before you know it you're going to be like i think i went too hard in the, just like Stormlight Archive. And before you know it, you're going to be like, I think I went too hard in the paint with the motorcycle. This might be wise.

This might be wise. I, while I was on that trip, it was just a weekend thing. If people don't know, I did Friday and Saturday. I rode with some friends all over, all over everything. This dual sport thing.

They're basically street legal dirt bikes. And we went on these twisty mountain switchbacks that are paved gravel roads that are the same thing but gravel and then like literal hill climbs with two foot tall root obstacles in the middle of them and the single track so tight the brushes are the bushes are brushing against your shoulders as you go and buy like everything from top to bottom it was a great great weekend and one guy wants to do a trip. It's about nine days long where they go from, I think, Virginia to New York via gravel roads. And I'm like, what's the best timing to talk to the boys, talk to my wife? Like, you know, I've only been home for two and a half weeks, three weeks now.

Yeah. Is it better to give more notice? I think it's not. I think it's not. I think with Jackie, I'm going to mention this sometime in August and go in September. Just tell us and we won't tell her. I had the same feeling with you guys, but you asked me about it. I was like, should I give them what?

Is it better to give them like eight weeks notice or like it's four fine and and i don't know the month we could get by too yeah can we record on wednesday yes yeah of course yeah so maybe it would be neat if we did like a similar thing to what we did. Is it, I think it's okay to say for when you get married, we're like, you know, we did two shows in one day and then there was like a nine day span of nothing.

Yeah. That would be really cool. And that wasn't, I thought like the five hour grind was going to be a lot harder than it was. It was almost like, like the one hour for this is so, so easy compared to like like, the four hour.

Like, you forget that, like, a lot of podcasts are just an hour long. Oh, my gosh. I watch a paramotor and paragliding podcast. It's an hour long, but they have, like, 30 minutes worth of, like, standard shit they do. Advertisements give away, thank away, thanking sponsors and stuff. Like, this thing, are you doing 25 minutes of content that is so tiny how much how much could you talk about every week though where it's like all right welcome to the next episode for the 50th week in a row no new technology on this front uh oh you

just reeling people who almost died every week oh okay, okay. Well, that is an endless fountain. Taylor, tell us about your near-death experience. Well, I got into a pretty silly hobby. It all starts here. I was talking about the leading cause of death in paramotoring. It's drowning, people landing in water. It changes sometimes. And you're like, leading cause of death?

The leading cause of every every sport should be cardiac arrest or heart disease like the leading cause of death in bowling your heart explodes spontaneously all right same with like darts all those bar games i bet the leading cause of death amongst bowlers probably is like diabetes heart disease something like that for sure because like who's the average guy who's I bet the leading cause of death amongst bowlers probably is like diabetes, heart disease, something like that. For sure. Cause like, who's the average guy who's really into bowling.

He's older because like bowling seems to be like a little like baseball that like millennials and the younger generation just didn't, don't really give a fuck anymore. Yeah. Like millennials are not into aviation. They're not into bowling. They're not into shucks, a bunch of things. Some of that's finance, but some of it's just,

they don't think it's interesting. Yeah. Like all sports ratings are going down. I think we saw that. I still lean that it's streaming, like instant content. Like people have gotten so into like even now like amazon prime will release a show and it's like one episode what year do you think it is idiot netflix does it all at once do it like netflix and so now like even something like a sporting

event it's like am i going to organize my whole day around this no no i can still i can catch the highlights i can you know not look at my phone and re-watch it later on my own time whatever the case may be so i don't think it's going to get better the way i take in content now i'm not conditioned to deal with all these breaks anymore even something like hockey which on the spectrum is a pretty continuous sport so shocks there's two 20 minute breaks between first and second and second and third period for people to watch. And then there's always stoppages. There's icing. There's this scheduled commercial breaks. That's just not the Netflix or YouTube experience. It's nonstop. Just one flows into the next that flows into the next. They're never allowing you an opportunity to get away from their thing.

They want you addicted. Hockey, football, you name it, it's mostly breaks, it feels like. I don't have that kind of attention span anymore. Yeah, especially football. Hockey, that's why I do like that you get a lot of continuous play. And if it goes to a commercial, I'll just look at my phone or something. But I've been watching, and this is tangentially related to hockey but not really about the players uh vegas who was like known to be like this really good starter franchise like almost won a couple cups they're developing like a reputation now of not of continuously not telling their own players

they've been traded until they find out about it on social media. And they've gotten away with it, you know, just like, Oh, it was a little mistake, but it's happened so many times now. And they just did it to,

you probably even know who he is. Mark Andre flurry. Sure. Who's a goalie for people out there. He was like, it seems like an old name. He's still around. He's only 36. That's because he was drafted.

He was seen as like, this guy is a for-sure goalie. And so they drafted him first overall in 2003 or something at 18. They started his career. He's won three Stanley Cups. He left Pittsburgh very generously, magnanimously almost, and went to Vegas. And he's been the face of their franchise. Because he's the most famous player there with the most cups and the most hardware. He won the Vesna last year,

which is for the best goalie throughout the regular season. That's how you pronounce that. And Vesna. I've always said Vesna in my head. Maybe it's the Vesina, but I've always said Vesna in my head. I'm there's a good chance. I've got it wrong.

I don't know. But carry on. But, uh, and like he apparently said towards the end of his career he's played about including playoff games he's played about a thousand and fifty little less than that games in his career which for a goalie is fucking but just bananas so ridiculous like if a goalie plays 400 500 games in his career it's like man that guy that guy went

for a while huh people that don't know goalies usually don't play every game they don't have scheduled rests because they play every minute when they do play yeah exactly and uh they traded him to chicago and he didn't find out until he saw it on twitter like today or yesterday that like chicago traded him. They gave him away for free basically because it was a way to clear $7 million of cap space off of the Vegas cap because they've been having trouble. But basically, yeah, they took a guy who's been in the NHL for 18 years now, almost that long, and they traded him without even telling him. And this is like not even the third or fourth time Vegas has done this. And so like i think a lot

of players are going to get pissed off by this and be more hesitant to sign there if it's like oh yeah you'll sign me to a nice contract and then i'll find out through a twin trending topic on twitter that like oh why why is my name true oh i guess uh i guess i'm moving to chicago and it was such a shock to him that he was like i need to talk to my family and see if I'm even going to decide to continue playing in the NHL. I might just retire. Like I've made a hundred million dollars in my career. I'm not hurting for cash.

I may just fucking quit because fuck you. So I feel bad for him. That's a really disrespectful, especially because it's Chicago. Like if I'm him and I've got a couple of cups in there. Oh, because no, it's a,

it's my impression of what it's like to live in the Chicago area. It's going to be cold. It's going to be yucky. The commutes are pretty rough. It's expensive. If he got traded to Carolina, now I'm biased, but work with me,

it'd be like, oh, good schools. I'm not famous anymore, which is famous sounds cool, but it's not. It sucks. You know, I, I,

I could go shopping. Nobody knows who I am. It's just like, I don't know, brick sidewalks and golf course communities and shit. Like, okay. Carolina is not a bad place for hockey player to live.

No, not at all. And I think another thing is like, Carolina's like a really good team right now. And so it would make more sense for him. He's he doesn't have a lot of time left where Chicago is not. And so like, is he going to join?

Is he going to move to cold ass Chicago, buy a house, move his whole family there to play like a couple years for a team. That's not going to do anything. Detroit's not good either, but like there's another city where it's like, oh, you're going to have like fucking traffic jams and yucky weather.

And I, I don't know if I heard I got traded the Tampa Bay again, another city where it's like oh you're gonna have like fucking traffic jams and yucky weather and i i don't know if i heard i got traded the tampa bay again why do all the good teams good places to live yeah like tampa all their players take take pay cuts like yeah do they still have a team the predators are they still going they do yeah they're not uh they're not very good anymore well they make it that one if i heard i was going to nashville i'd be like that might be a nice place to live i like nashville oh yeah like if i were to be in the nhl the fucking florida panthers you live in miami no one knows who you are and you still make a professional athlete salary yes yeah and where do the florida panthers play exactly? What city? Miami. Oh,

cost of living is kind of high there, but yeah, it is. But like, that would be worth it. Like, would you rather play in like Edmonton? That's so cold. So cold. Montreal to me is the worst. It's so cold and everybody's paying attention to you like you just i don't you have a bad game last night you're gonna hear about it at the quickie mart today yeah like teams like montreal and toronto like players will leave there and then do way better in other cities and they'll be like what do you think it is it's like i was just you know in like the second period i missed a pass and i was just obsessed with i knew there'd the second period, I missed a pass, and I was just obsessed with it. I knew there'd be 50 articles before I left the locker room,

and they were going to follow me out to my car and then write articles about how I was drunk while I was playing or something, and I can't even address it to disprove it. Like, they just make shit up. It's like fucking playing for the Patriots, I'd assume, because Toronto is an enormous city, bigger than Boston, and they're all fucking obsessed. But anyway anyway that's

enough hockey kyle you're a little darker in the light yeah everything got shut off all the lights got shut off so i had to quickly like reboot everything um i was gonna say earlier um oh i just spilled so much dr pepper oh that sucks where the fucking plus button? There it is. I was going to say to our viewers out there, if you want to take part in the cream of mushroom soup challenge, you have to show the can on camera, all right? So show that it has not been altered in some way. I need to see the bottom.

I need to see the top. I need to see this poppy thing has not been popped at all. This one's a little springy because I've been squeezing the fuck out of this bitch. I need to see there's no dents. One-handed. Don't care if it's your right or your left. If this thing leaves the camera frame and you start getting at the vice grips, I'm going to know what happened.

But one-handed, you've got to pop this son of a bitch. All right? It's got to pop. Now, do you think you could do it with two hands right now? I know where this is going. I will not be manipulated. I want to see it there. The answer is absolutely I could pop this with two hands.

I don't believe you. I know you don't, and I don't care. But, yeah, you got to do it with one hand, which is something that I apparently cannot fucking do. I don't think I could do it with two hands. I'm asking myself, if I combine the strength of my paralyzed hand with my broken fingers, could they together destroy a can of soup? I don't think so. I don't know.

These are some bullshit hands we're working with here. It'd probably be way easier to just break one of these, right? A full one, like a soda, because it's already carbonated and it kind of wants to pop, I would imagine. That does seem like it's working in your favor. Whereas like the can of soup, and the can of soup is a lot more rigid. It's thicker. Like it doesn't make the tinny little crushy sound of this. I'm going to, I don't even know if I have any soup.

I'll give it a go. Yeah, Taylor's a shot. Are you still doing all those farmer's carries? I'm starting up again because don't even know if I have any soup. I'll give it a go. Yeah. Taylor's a shot. Are you still doing all those farmers carries? I'm starting up again because I finally got my basement finished. And so I got to move all my sectional furniture and my TV and my entertainment system all back in there. So yeah, I'll probably,

I'll probably kick that up probably next week. I've been messing with, with all my workouts for a while, like trying new ones. I just got bored of the same shit over and over. And so now I'm like doing a lot more like a la carte where it's like, all right, I'm bored to shit of the seated row. I need to still hit my upper back though.

So, okay, I'll do the T-bar row or I'll do the chainsaw dumbbell row on the bench or something like that. And that's been making it a little more, you know, fun. I'm getting like, I go, I ebb and flow with my like interest in it as other hobbies come and go and it's like the last week or so i've been amping up a lot more back into the lifting like watching a lot of uh and in like funny enough like more plates more dates i never really watched much of his channel but i started watching it and uh i started like looking for like the workout tips and then the more it was like i'd find myself watching a video where he's like

check out this gay pre-workout that only losers use and i'm like yeah and it's so interesting all the like his depth of knowledge like like preaching to the choir obviously you guys know way more his depth of knowledge is insane i've watched so much more plates more dates that derrick's vocabulary seems normal to me like the girl this isn't even an efficacious dosage of whatever and i'm like yeah that's the thing people say yeah i like in the beginning like he seems to have like some go-tos where he's like this this protein powder how about you just drag your balls across my face and then fuck my pretty little mouth how about that how about instead of giving me this how about you fuck my tight little mouth usually not that that obscene but i see where you're going with it yeah he's like

he was so insulted by g fuel they put like one milligram of something in it he's like you're assuming that your uh buyer your customers are too stupid to read this label he went off the charts with it it's hilarious to me yeah i did like the g fuel one because everyone and their mom is sponsored by g fuel and for him to just be like, it's terrible. Like it is worse than a full sugar monster energy almost. So he's, Greg Doucette and More Plates, More Dates share a lot of subscribers, I would say. And Greg Doucette came out with a pre-workout and it's very similar to Derek's.

It has good dosages and it's good. Although it has one thing. Is it beta-alamine? Do I have that right, Kyle? Do you know? Apparently, yeah. That's the dosages and it's good. Although it has one thing. Is it beta-aluminum? Do I have that right, Kyle? Do you know? Apparently, yeah. That's the stuff that just makes you itchy. It gives you an itchy butthole. Derek's subs are going nuts on how

the only difference between the two is that the itchy butthole compound that he added to it. Greg's defending the itchy butthole compound that he put in there. And I'm enjoying the whole back and forth. Yeah, that beta alanine is the worst. I don't know why people don't like it. It doesn't make some people like it. Well, I guess if you use the right amount, which is a ton, you get a 3% benefit greg argues that the benefits

start before the maximum efficacious dose and then you might get a one percent benefit from it in the world of competitive sports going from a 400 to a 404 pound bench matters and it's like i i mean i guess i'm yeah if that's if that's the person he's preaching to someone trying to edge out another one percent on their competitive amateur you know bench or whatever for power lifting but for the average person even someone who's really into lifting like are you getting that much out of it i remember when i would use it because it was like when i first started lifting more i was like okay this is what you do everybody does pre-workout And I remember after like months of that being like, the thing I dread more than the workout itself is that tingly, like starting to almost panic feeling of like, I need to start moving right now. I have to

start moving. It was awful. Like I talked about the time I did lit that pre-workout and it had like 350 grams of, or not grams, milligrams of caffeine and a bunch of beta alanine and taking that and being so on edge that I couldn't lift. Cause like I, I just, I just paced for hours, just paced around like talking to myself until it went away. It was, it was like a bad drug experience. So I'm never doing beta out. That was the last time I did the beta alanine shit. Never again. I should have used that today. I just got out of the gym right before this show.

I spent three hours doing a workout that should have taken half that. You just fiddling around taking like five minutes between sets. Maybe if I had an eight year butthole or something, I'd have got my ass in gear and a little less Facebook messenger, a little more pumping iron. I'll do that where it'll be like, all right, I'm making pretty good time. Let me take a little less Facebook Messenger, a little more Pump and Iron. I'll do that where it'll be like, all right, I'm making pretty good time. Let me take a little couple-minute break between my next sets. I'm going to shoot a puck into all four corners of my little target thing, and then it's like 12 minutes later, and it's like,

this isn't going to happen, Taylor. You just go back and start lifting again. But that's nice. When you accidentally take a really long break, you go back and it's like, I could add some more weight here. Then you start wondering if you're cheating. Like, oh, I see. Last time I lifted 115, 125, 135, for example.

All right. How does that go if you don't rest seven minutes between sets or something stupid like that? Yeah, not as easy. Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't really matter too much don't rest seven minutes between sets or something stupid. Yeah. Not as easy. Yeah. But it doesn't really matter too much as long as you have the time to do that. And I,

I like that sometimes, like sometimes I like just hammering out the workout and like, you know, 90 minutes or so. And other times, like I like really taking my time and fucking around or like, if I, you know,

if I feel like I still have a little more in the tank at the end of the workout, I'll be like, well then you didn't really have a very effective workout, did you? And so I'll be like, all right, well what is it?

Push day. All right. I'm going to fuck around with more tricep push downs until like my triceps burn or I'm going to, you know, do more body weight dips until like I really am shaking on the way up. Body weight dips. They're the last exercise I do.

And they're nice because they body weight dips are're the last exercise i do and they're nice because they body weight dips are like the pull-ups of push day they get everything and it's like your whole workout can just be going okay and it's like all right this is the money run and then we're going to do tricep we're going to i'm sorry i meant to say dips we're going to do dips until we can't do dips anymore and then we'll do that two or three more times. By the time it's finished, your whole workout went well because you fucking crushed it on the dips. Dips will get

it. Oh, did you not have great delts? Chess? Tries? Dips, dips, dips, bitch. By the time you finish all these dips, you'll have a good workout. That reminds me of that guy we were talking about from the patron, the super soldier,

Nolan, he was, I was, I was asking that for him. Like, so what are your most like impressive lifts that you do? And clearly he's excels at pushing. Cause he's like, well,

I do weighted dips and I got, I can do 135 pounds attached to my waist. And then I can bang out, you know, two or three dips like that and i weigh 275 so yeah it's like a it's like a 408 pound dip or something i can get up to and it's like that's what that's absurd like where where's this poor dip stand yeah i wonder what he'd do on my dips like what would my so i do um you know a squat rack the bar

that like uh you would use if you failed the dips attached to the side of that can he even do 500 pound dips i don't know towards him he'd have to like put him towards the middle of the rack and then he's got to be on something pretty fucking sturdy because he's a big dude. I think he's close to 300 pounds maybe. Then he's strapping on another 230, did he say? 130.

Low 400 pounds of him. That's a lot more reasonable now that I think about it. It's still heavy. I'm not saying it's not a lot. It's incredible what he's doing for weighted data. You'm not saying it's not a lot. It's incredible. You're not doing that on a $65 dip stand from Amazon. No.

No, that would be incredibly dangerous. It would just fold right out. Yeah. Like a tin can. That guy's impressive. If he did some cutting, he'd just be a monster. Probably. Oh, yeah.

The show's almost over, but I watched Jujy's gym tour. Have you guys seen that? It's awesome. That is thorough. I think it went four or five sessions to make it from beginning to end. But I guess if you had a cost no object gym, that might be exactly where you land. Budget

didn't seem to be part of the equation at all. No, he's doing it as a business too. It's his livelihood. It makes a lot of sense. A lot of the stuff is just clearly there for variety, like Kyle said, to make more videos. That would be such

a fun place to work out you could do 15 pull days never touch the same machine twice everything's new like it would be it would be sick do you want that don't you don't you want to hit the same thing every every you know like and stay consistent so that you're actually like you know stay consistent with your workout like if you're going to do like – That's true. I like to make progress in a thing. I like to change the weight and make it go up. I also value free space more than he seems to.

He has a 4,000-square-foot building that he has packed so you can barely walk around. And to me, that gym is even better if he sells four machines. I could see myself. I agree with you there. Like having a little more pace around like open space would be good. So it doesn't feel quite so commercial. But like I could definitely see myself structuring like a PPL split where it's like, all right, I have these like static compound lifts, like two or three of those that I always do. And then, you know five

accessories that i do as well and you can mix and match those a little more as long as you're still like hitting exhaustion by the end of it that would be fun he did sell me on the machines though he'd be like this machine is made by panziere whatever it is uh they're the people that also do the upholstery for lamborghinis and it has like detailed stitching and arches like spider webs and shit. I'm like, God, that, that,

it just looks so high end and you can't touch it, but I feel like it touches like a Lamborghini steering wheel or something. Like it's that, what is that high end material call? I forget. I watched his video with Eric Bugenhagen, that maniac who takes the exact opposite approach to equipment, where Eric is like, I use the absolute worst equipment.

He went to Juju's gym, and he was like, this is too much, man. This is too much. Let's go get a workout in. And so we had them go outside and do bear crawls in the yard and see how far they could throw rocks. And it was just like a funny little FU where it's like, we're going to get a real workout in, Juju.

Look at this pile of rocks. We're going to do rock sit-ups, rock crush. And that guy's hilarious. I watched Juju do a workout where they were just running across rocks for time. What? This is just ankle sprain practice. What are you doing? What exercises are you even working?

But yeah. His channel is so much better since Tom left. Like way better. I was never a fan of Tom. I thought he detracted from every episode or every video he was in because it and it was so obvious that he wanted to be like an equal part when i think both of you said more kyle like that like no you're the sidekick guy you should be holding the camera the olympian looking guy who whose upper body weighs 200 pounds that can do standing backflips like he's the guy

and there'd be videos where it's like juji and some other mountainous guy doing grip strength and it's like he would just angle in and be like my turn my turn everybody look at me now and i edit it and so it's going to be a equal parts time for the average dude it's like i'm one wants to see Jujie Brock Lesnar and Woody's Gamer Tag do benching. Yeah. Two of these things belong together. If I was in a video with Jujie, I would be like, dude, I'll hold the camera, man. I'll make jokes from behind the camera.

That's what I'll do. No one wants to watch my lame ass lifts. You're pretty strong. Well, he is. I would like for him to get Brad Shaw in that gym. The giant strong man. I'm surprised they haven't done a collab. We should probably call it because

I know very soon we have to start