Painkiller Already - PKN 420

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

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pkn420 what's the news kyle i i don't know um i got that message uh in our whatsapp the other night from zach and it was that little clip of wings and i guess like right after we recorded the show the other night he announced that he's considering getting a a second weight loss surgery and don't worry it won't happen but but but somebody in his chair why not well it's important like it's important for people to like keep their expectations where they're supposed to be this is just a funny little lark he'll never do it um but but somebody in his uh in his comments i guess donated him like 50 bucks and was like hey i hello everybody dr nick here and uh he told him you know he's dr nick and

he would happily give him a surgery for free he He said, hey, Wings, come on down to my clinic. I'll cut you open, make your stomach a quarter of the size it is now and you'll be set. And Wings is on stream like, I think this might be a good idea. He didn't get the Dr. Nick reference? Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm making that up. An actual doctor.

I am Dr. Nick Rivera. What I'm saying is the kind of doctor who's on Twitch offering free surgeries to people. I am Dr. Nick Rivera. The kind of doctor who's on Twitch offering free surgeries to people is probably a Dr. Nick. Yes. Probably a kook. I needed to hear it out loud like you said it. I'm like, how do you know it's not a real doctor? Oh, yeah.

Real doctors don't watch wings on Twitch, probably. Probably. I'd wager that. Let's say that you're a successful... Let's say you're a good weight loss surgeon. Practice is struggling a little bit. You're down in Florida. I'm trying to drum up a little business.

Hey, here's a guy here. He could be, he could be your Jared Fogle. He's already got the creepy past with young girls. He's already an enormous person. Like two out of three, like,

like you make this guy lose weight. He's Jared Fogle in a, in a heartbeat. And, and so like this guy hops on Twitch and he's like hey here's 50 bucks would you like to come on down to god knows where it is i'm just gonna make things up and say you know florida but dark alley somewhere dark alley be clear not a pedo and also do not bring it like wings is considering it so much, and I'm like, dude, did you never stop and think that maybe this is, like, one of those troll channels

that you shut down? And he's like, yeah, show up. We're going to have a little operation. Yeah. Come on down to my clinic. I wouldn't be okay with taking a surgery from a surgeon who solicited me for free on Twitch. Maybe I'm a worry wart.

I'm the kind of guy, I don't have to go to the doctor. Okay, they seek me out. They headhunt me. They seek me out. But, so like on one hand, intellectually, you both sound so right, right? What kind of,

would a top surgeon be watching a Twitch stream offering surgeries to heavy guys? Probably not. But are you not missing out on opportunities when you turn these things down, sight unseen? That's right. You may as well agree. Except make him travel to you.

Make him take the travel expense. If he's going to be free. All your tools. I mean, a real doctor has a website with a phone number on it, and you can call, and you can get that office. You can kind of verify. You can set that shit up for $50. You know that. PO box and like one of those answering services.

I can even get a girl to be like, yeah, I'll transfer you to Dr. Myers right away. You can even do all that. Dr. Myers, you got a surgeon? Yes, I'll be right there. Meanwhile, it's my girlfriend being like, this is a crime. so you got a surgeon? Yes, I'll be right there. Meanwhile, it's my girlfriend being like, this is a crime.

Shut up, bitch. What you wouldn't be able to do is get anyone else to do a bunch of reviews. You wouldn't be able to check the board. You could verify that you're real or not. I don't know how. I think that... The American Medical Association has a list of actual doctors. I know that,

but let's all be honest and say that we have never when getting medical care looked up our doctors on the medical on the list of that's something i reserve exclusively we believe that doctors we've been we believe that diploma on their wall like it like god himself put a fucking thumbprint i buy it just because of the outfit. It's all they need is the coat. It's a Halloween costume. It's just a fucking white coat. I mean.

They look professional. So Zach is telling me he went to Mexico. That's not the US. But this guy, the way Kyle told the story was in the US. But I'm not sure. I mean, Kyle might not be sure. I don't know. He didn't mention where the guy's from. He literally said, hey, one of my wonderful viewers

offered 50 bucks and a free surgery. It's supposedly the same doctor. So that would be easy for Wings to verify. He could call that guy's office. They could use the same tools they did last time. Hopefully they cleaned them. He's over there doing that Gordon Ramsay shit before surgery.

That's how you know you're fucked. He's cheek, cheek, cheek, cheek. Shouldn't you just use a new scalpel? Oh, welcome to Mexico, my friend. This is Mexico. So, like, he actually... Scalpel for everyone. Did he actually bring up the, like, oh, I might think

about a second weight loss surgery, and then a guy in the chat mentioned something? Or the guy in the chat mentioned it, and then he responded. That way. That way. I have my own strategy for wings i can solve i can cure this man i can't do salad i want yours well butan well butan is the hot chick drug it's the one all the girls are good right am i pronouncing it wrong what am i saying uh you said wellbutrin. It's Wellbutrin. Oh, okay. Thank you. All right.

So Wellbutrin, it suppresses your appetite, fixes your mood, and increases your libido. This is good shit, right? I thought Wellbutrin lowered your libido. Look again. It's like the drug that the hot chicks, it makes you skinny, want to fuck, and in a good mood. Everyone should be on it. I can't co-sign that. Everyone should be on it.

Woody's like a first adopter. That guy in 1705 was like, I've been taking spoonfuls of mercury and I'm horny as hell. Woody's like, everyone needs to get on this miracle. I don't know, metal paste? I don't know, it's cool. They used it in everything. It was in cosmetics, all sorts of stuff. If you lived at that time and you saw a magic metal liquid,

you're not going to insist that's a cure for something? Come on. Right. Clearly you drink that. Yeah, obviously it's nothing magic. You've never seen liquid metal. Not much of it, no. Not

a room temperature. Mercury's cool. Mercury is probably the coolest metal. Mercury's room temperature, for heaven's sakes. Yeah, I don't think he'll do it. I don't think if he does do it, it'll matter.

I don't want to go into a whole thing here, because i'd like them to come on the show sometime because i want to do the newlywed game i want him and his wife to come on and do the newlywed game you know where we question them separately and then we bring them back and they uh we asked wings what's your favorite position in bed kelly and he said what, what is it, Kelly? And she's like, with me on top. And he holds the thing up and it's like, with someone else or something, whatever his answer is. It would be funny

if they both went for funny answers. It'd be funny if they both went for funny answers. But they try to win. That'd be fun. It'd be fun to see how little they probably know each other. Stop. They've been married for a few years now, right? crazy i have no idea i'm not very plugged in to what's what's going on over there and i i honestly don't know if they're really married i know i said that picture like you're the one over here let's look up his doctor credentials and all of a sudden i'm like

i didn't see the wedding license i I saw wings in a top hat. I've seen a, I've seen a man wear a white coat before. It doesn't make him a doctor. Like I said, it does make him a doctor. You're wrong. Who is not going to operate on me,

but he is a doctor and wings. Worse were a top hat. And that woman wore a dress, but that does not make them. You think wings staged wedding photos? He's done. It wouldn't be the craziest thing. It's easier to go to the moon

than to fake a wedding. It'd be easier to get married than fake a wedding. Exactly. And that's exactly why he'd fake a wedding. I haven't... I want to see the birth certificate. And the birth certificate.

Well, that's going to be a problem here. Yeah, no. I mean, they probably got married. uh i mean they probably got my marriage certificate i could totally see wings being the kind of guy who was like oh yeah did you go get that thing down at the courthouse you know the licensee thing well we was in front of the preacher and all we're married oh okay like like like we can file our taxes and they won't want any proof or something. Like, oh no, here's a picture. I could totally see them not actually being married. I mean, like you do need... What surprised me the least? After you get married,

you have to like have your officiant take it to the courthouse to like file it. Really? And there's a time limit on that. And it's like, if they don't file it within a certain period after your wedding, you have to go back to the courthouse again

and refile for your wedding certificate. And it was like, it's like a two, it's like a three week time period or something after it. And I didn't get a real officiant. I picked one of my friends because we both, my wife and I thought it would be funny. And it was like two weeks into this process after we got married. We're back from the honeymoon and everything.

It's like living in sin. It's like living in sin. There's five days left before we have to go back to the courthouse and she's like did he ever turn that in and i'm like i don't know and i texted him and i'm like did you ever turn our marriage certificate and he's like dude i definitely will i am i am gonna do it after work tomorrow and i'm like dude like i appreciate you playing along with the bit and everything this needs to be done now like get like done not tomorrow today because i'm not gonna wait in line again and then we're gonna change our fucking anniversary and stuff like no we're

not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna do that so just go take it to the goddamn courthouse i'm not sure i'm pretty sure you... I'm not sure you're married. Well, we got it taken care of. After I brought it up to him... He told you that he took care of it. No, we know he did because we got the confirmation in the mail. And it was literally like, after I explained to him,

because in his head it was like, you just take the form in. We already did the thing. When I explained, like, like no we have to get married again if you don't turn this in because it's outside of the window of what we got approved for whatever and he's like oh oh fuck okay and so like he left work early and went and did that for us and like texted me it was like that's all taken care of and i was like thank you so much but yeah that's a real thing you got to be on it you can't just like be like oh they said i do that's marriage like this

is fucking bureaucracy and red tape this is government shit all right like you're not married until they say you are but i didn't need a passport for it didn't need a passport wings wings offered them his they we will need that sir you sure preacher no i i totally would uh believe that he that he wasn't married i'd say the are 75% that he actually is married, 25% that it's like a sham marriage. And she wouldn't know it, by the way. It would totally be a scenario where she was red-faced on there, angry, crying when she found out she wasn't even married. I love conspiracy, Kyle. There's no ROI for Winx to have not gotten married for people

there is it's him it's him like like i like i counted on this guy for years and it'd be like his wings gonna show up today 90 chance he shows up for work tonight yeah wait what he would not say that about anybody else there's a 99. that, yeah, everyone shows up for work tonight, as they do every day. But he's not like that. And by the same right, there's a 75% chance he's really married. I've been not on board with the Wings fussing this whole show until now. Until now.

We would do our show from like 8 to 12, and then he would tell me that he missed it the following week because by going till 12 a week ago, I fucked up his sleep schedule. It's like you are a 26-year-old man. You can't stay up till midnight without your sleep schedule being rocked for a week. I remember you guys at the time would text me at you know 758 or whatever and be like you want to do PKA and I'm like yeah I can hop on like Wings said one minute ago he couldn't come

like he like it just wasn't a given that Wings would come no I bet if they look back what happens sometimes is that they look at how many shows people missed and his numbers aren't that outrageous but what they don't know is how many times we like delayed the show or how many times he rolled in mid show and stuff like that um why did we delay it how many

times we delayed it 10 minutes an hour a day two days anything you remember when wings died yeah why why was he late did he sleep Did he sleep in? He slept in. For an 8 p.m. show. Yeah, he woke up at like 9.30 p.m. all drowsy and rolled in like a child. Kyle wakes up at the crack of 7.30 just to get to the show on time. It's just a fucking alarm on your phone.

It's just magic. There on your phone like there have been times when i had to set my alarm we're gonna do this what we're doing right now we're gonna record it 7 p.m we usually do around then and so my alarm would be set for 6 p.m my wake up alarm that's how bad my sleep schedule would be but i'd be here i'd be here fresh out of the shower to me at 7 a.m but i'm here like that motherfucker was the worst and it's also like like it's not like the alarm is going off and it's like like a train horn going like back to the coal mine boy it's like it's a podcast man like we just have to sit here and do it for a while it's so easy it's so easy he just didn't have any respect for our time um and uh and so yeah i just that that's where i best guess a long time ago maybe maybe

it'd be different yeah he's different yeah i mean he's a different person like i would i will say this like i everybody changes over time and like becomes a better or worse version of them shut up down there but um i i think that wings was extra immature maybe like for 26 um i i think maybe we he's a little less exposed to you know everything yeah yeah yeah 10 ago, he's a totally different guy. He really is. That's a funny joke. That'd be a funny way to start. Oh, he's a totally different guy. He's like the same

weight. He should be like Wiggs is on the show. He lost all his hair. He's not the same guy. He's a totally different guy. Then Finster walks in and sits down. I saw someone offered Finster walks in and sits down. I haven't... Oh, I saw someone offered Finster a large amount of money to get breast implants the other day. Like hundreds of thousands of dollars.

It was like $150,000 or something. He turned it down. Get the money first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But I think he was going to have to keep them for a period of time. Why? Is the lawman going to come and take the money back? Well, he would have to make a contract, right? I'm not paying for you to go pop them in and pop them back out.

I'm paying for the next year of silliness on Twitch. The problem is Finster's a successful streamer. If you want a financially successful person to do something they don't feel like doing, you got to cough up some dough. 150 grand to Finster isn't life-changing. He makes that already. But if this guy was working minimum wage, you'd be like, maybe. Maybe one year.

That'd be awesome. Yeah. It may have even been more. It's been a while since I remember hearing it. Yeah. I mean, can you play right out having boobs? Like, it's just gyno or something. I guess it depends on how big the cup is.

And he's not paying a quarter million dollars for A's. No, yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a quarter million, right? Was it 150? Well, he was six figures. I don't remember exactly. $150,000, something like that.

It was a large amount of money. And if you remember when he was on the show, I asked him that question, how much would it take to get him? If someone, this exact scenario. And he was somewhere in the $300,000 or $400,000 range, I think. Yeah. As most people would be.

I mean, $300,000 or $400,000 for a year of silliness. Do you remember that dude that got implants for a $100,000 bet? Yes, I do. Yeah. And this is a while ago. The 90s, maybe? 2000s? It was a while ago.

And he seemed to be some hanger on. He was associated with wealthy people, but wasn't one himself. And they bet him $100 a hundred grand which is just a it's a weird kind of bet you know a hundred grand to wear boobs for a year is more like i feel like they cucked him in some way i would feel dominated like woody you think this much of yourself that for a hundred grand you'd have tits for a year that's what i can dangle this carrot in front of you and make you do almost anything he had the exact opposite mindset it would seem because he seemed like the kind of guy who thought it was hilarious he was he's at every bar

he wants you to squeeze him he wants to show him off that is true he's getting free drinks he's yucking it up with bartenders this is like a good time partying dude like he kept him you're totally right after the money like he saw this as he was like man my life is so much better with these tits every time i walk into a fucking bar i'm like i'm like hey fellas could you get me a drink and we all laugh and then i tell them the story and now they love me and they keep buying me drinks all night and then I make new friends and then women like them too. It's crazy. You're so right on this. That guy's the absolute

life of the party. I'm reading the article about it. That's why he has rich friends if what he suggested is. He only got the hundred grand initially but they had an additional part to the bet that he gets ten grand per year after that that he keeps them and it's been 25 years fuck yeah so he's made a cool 10 grand a year is not life-changing no

no but i guess this guy he loves being life of the party and he doesn't want to leave money on the table he's already got the boobs what does he look like now it's not it's not great. He's not fuckable. Don't you tell me what to do. You see him pulling his shirt down with his breasts up, but there's a huge amount of chest hair above it. Link the page. That's what makes it so silly and not creepy or anything. It's like, what did you do?

It's so clear. They're so juxtaposed with his personality and the rest of his body that it's clearly for yucks you know what i mean it's it's uh i don't know i remember that story and thinking it was hilarious and and thinking like good for him for being like you think this is embarrassing you should have gone to college with me you don't even know the things i've done You should have gone to college with me. You don't even know the things I've done. For so much. I'd have taken him for free.

That guy. He's a Canadian. Kyle has dogs now. Dude, so I had a good day in the gym today. It was push day. And I lowered all my weights. One, I missed a little time because of my vacation. And two, I couldn't lift as much with the broken leg.

Even something like a bench press is impacted by a broken leg. And I'm headed back. My bench press PR is 205 for 12. I did it for 10 today. That's not a PR, but that's good by my standards. And a stupid one, like inclined cable flies, that was my PR. That's great. I'm getting back to the top of the mountain.

Not on top, but getting there. I was listening to a pro rugby player, or maybe a former one on some podcast. He was talking about taking steroids for the first time. He was like, I added 70 kilos to my deadlift in like a month. I was like, 70 kilos of muscle? What does it look like? Just no joint movement.

The Russian guy from Street Fighter. He was just talking about how much stronger he was getting in such a short amount of time. He's like, but then I realized, well, now I'm just 25 pounds heavier and I can't run as fast. It didn't help at all.

It was a terrible idea. I wonder which sports steroids don't help with. Which steroids, right? Because they do all sorts of cool things from healing to joint stuff. If we're talking about performance enhancers, then there's all the stuff that you can do your blood for for uh cardio for stamina um and there's stuff for longevity and there's stuff for i was watching this whole video about why nicotine is this performance enhancing drug they're like

i think it was about why smart people smoke it was like why does smart people smoke and they give this long list of like the best and brightest who all fucking smoke everybody from Obama to I don't know Dave Chappelle was on the list I think it was a smart guy he definitely knows cigarettes bad for you he's smart enough for that he still smokes them but they talked about all the ways that nicotine affect you and they described it as a

performance enhancer for things interesting because it is definitely true that there are smart people who smoke now there's dummies who smoke, too. There are plenty of stupid people smoking cigarettes. I wonder how the populations compare, like smoker versus non-smoker. Yeah, I think the question is interesting because it's an inherently bad-for-you thing, right? So a smart person should just know better.

The stupid person knows better, too. But the smart person has more options in life. You're like, dude, you're going places. Maybe you're the president of the United States. How about putting those new ports away? Actually, he smoked Marlboro Reds to be fair. That was racist of me. There are some things though, where I feel like intelligence doesn't do much for you, right? Like in matters of the heart, I'm not sure that smart people are more successful in their marriages and romantic life. Are smart people more successful in avoiding

addictive substances? I used to think so, and then opioids came around, and they seem to have equal opportunity addictions. Middle class was tricked, though. Your doctor was cosigning, and we're taught from childhood that we trust that guy. He knows! You wouldn't give me something addictive. doctor was co-signing it and we're talking childhood like we trust that guy with our he

knows you wouldn't give me something addictive hell our fucking every one of our commercials like nine out of ten doctors think this oh really well i should too and then this doctor's yeah yeah just 80 milligrams a day for the rest of your life no problem no you're you're right that's a good counterpoint so well that's a good counterpoint. So while that's a good counterpoint, I acknowledge it. I still think that just like raw intelligence, I don't know. It seems like addiction gets people with raw intelligence. Addiction gets everyone. They pinpoint nicotine, though, because they had the interesting case study of Vietnam, right? Where we had an enormous amount of American men doing heroin

every single day in Vietnam. They all came back. We had no heroin crisis. They all quit the next day. They went cold Turkey when they got back home because they were taking the heroin to deal with Vietnam. When you took Vietnam out of the equation, heroin wasn't a necessary thing anymore. They might've had some withdrawals, but they certainly weren't thinking, oh, I need heroin, because they weren't terrified anymore. That's what got them on the heroin. Nicotine, though, it doesn't work like that.

It's like the perfect drug, as they described in this video. If you're hungry, it'll get rid of your appetite. Oh, are you not hungry? Smoke one of these. Pick up your appetite. Are you tired? Smoke one of these. It'll wake you up your appetite are you tired smoke one of these it'll

it'll wake you up are you are you uh can you you can't fall asleep smoke one of these it'll calm you down they do it does all those things it just how can it do all of them i don't know but it does ask anyone it makes food taste better it's a ritual it i agree with the ritual part i've never heard the food thing before yeah i definitely have heard of it as, well, wait, I'm not sure if I heard of it as an appetite suppressant. I've heard that. Or, oh, okay. Well, look, I'm not claiming expertise, but I've heard people say that it's not that it suppresses your appetite, is it gives you something to do where you might otherwise make that thing pounding snacks. That's nice. The oral fixation being solved. But I even talked to Derek about this, about like how like the vape pen was helping with the when I was cutting hard,

I was doing a lot of nicotine. That's why I don't I've been doing nicotine for a while. I'm not cutting anymore. I'm not hungry all the goddamn time. It was I was hitting that thing continuously because it was like eating. And also like it was hitting both. It was I wanted something tasty in my mouth, so I was eating... All of my flavors were candies and cakes. But at the same time, it would take the edge off those hunger pangs if you were just

wanting that snack in the middle of the afternoon or whatever. But what about it would increase your appetite? How does that work? I don't know how that works, but it does. The same... It's not a different product. That's the wacky thing to me. Like, oh, do you need to be taller?

Take this. Do you need to be shorter? Take this same thing. Wait a second. No, but take it in the morning. That's just Mercury. Are you sure I should take this? Gallium, trust me. Give me powers. I'm still re-watching the

expanse and man like i said the other day it's held up so well and i had this memory that the early seasons had like bad cgi i haven't noticed anything bad i if anything i'm like this looks really good this this still holds up well have you re-watched breaking bad never yes i've only seen it once all the way through i've never seen a single episode of it more than a second time on re-watch i'm liking skylar a little more so i know insanity right because she she didn't like go with her man listen at the beginning she wasn't such a bad wife. Walt was a little bit of a dud of a husband.

Right, I remember that. It's his birthday. All right, all right. What Kyle's referring to is I think it was his birthday, and she jerked him off, right? I remember that. Oh, I remember. You just watched it.

I know, but I'm telling you, I could forget half the show and name every sex scene. I've got my own expertise. So it's his birthday and she's like, today's all about you. And she gives him like the lamest handy ever. Okay. All right. I get that. But then Walt breaks bad a little bit. She has no idea. All she knows is that her husband is feeling frisky and in the kitchen, he bends her over and fucks her from behind. I think he did it again by the refrigerator or something. And she's like, well, what got into you?

And she got into it too. It's like, dude, she was there ready for you. All you had to do was make your move, bend this bitch over the kitchen counter and she's down. I, I don't know.

I was like, like she was definitely responding positively to his initiation. So she checked that box for me. She wasn't such a terrible wife. Now, when what happened was he started disappearing big time. He's gone for entire weekends. This guy vanishes from like 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. And when she's like, where were you?

He's like, out. The fuck? Like, you can't do that in a marriage you can't just say out mystery unsolved day after day weekends where he like what are you doing you know like maybe i'm getting into poker i'll be out and it's like the dude that's serious bad husbandry right there. I may have misused husbandry. But that's bad husband behavior. Those piglets have been treated terribly. Terrible, terrible husbandry.

He did it for a long time. And her revenge to what I would have assumed was adultery because he just vanished all the time. Her revenge, she would just go out. And she didn't cheat. Not then. She just sat in her SUV and exposed her baby to cigarette smoke. That's what she did.

She would just go out, and she'd sit in a parking lot and do nothing for quite some time. And in terms of revenge behavior, it didn't seem too extreme to me. She did what he did. Now now he was dying of cancer so maybe she could have lighten the fuck up a little bit but in terms of like tv villains i'm not seeing over the top evil here he could have explained where he went and resolved the whole situation or something he gave her nothing that's why i didn't she cheated on him and fucked her boss or something which is not cool partner or something other yeah but um i think yeah it was her boss yeah and uh but at this point he's dealing or you know making drugs and she's really not you know objecting to this

behavior that's where i mean she wasn't right or die get forward and later she's part of the business right like that's where she is now oh by the and later she's part of the business, right? That's where she is now. By the way, she's part of the business. I think they're reconciling the marriage where I'm watching right now. And she's like, hire me. They were going to buy a laser tag place, if people don't remember the details. And there was a Danny there. Danny is a guy who really wanted to run a laser tag place,

but it wasn't thriving. So Danny was more than happy to look the other way while this money laundering money came in so that he could live his lifelong dream of running a laser tag business. Danny was dirty and we like dirty people in this show. And they're like, that car wash doesn't have a Danny. And his wife was like,

I'm your Danny. I'm a bookkeeper. I will launder the money and I'll do better than anyone else would have. I'm, you know, she's there for it. So Skylar isn't as bad as, as I remembered her in the first viewing. Yeah. I think you made a lot of great points there. Like the whole, like after having seen Ozark, I'm i'm like man this would have been better if they like brought everybody in and they like in the beginning and they had like an understanding of like don't fucking mention any of this shit you see something you know not above board don't ask questions in front of hank don't ask questions in front of that purple wearing bitch like just shut up we all gotta be on the same it's this it's this house It's just family versus the rest of the world. It's so great that you

said purple-wearing bitch, and I know the character you're talking about. It's Marie. It's fucking Marie. She's like, do you really need all these minerals, Hank? All the minerals are everywhere. My minerals, Marie. One of my favorite parts of the show was Hank's dismal

descent into autism in that room where he's just obsessed with rocks and at first marie's like i think it's a great way to reconcile homos dying and then by the end she's like i don't like you staring at minerals all day you bitch go find drugman again and then he does yeah no i don't like that she turns on her guy um i think that ozark is kind of like a show that I wonder if the writers of Ozark ever thought that, oh, man, Breaking Bad would have been so much better if he just told his family what was up and brought them in. It's kind of like they did that. Obviously, it's a very, very different show. But I would have smarter family in Ozark.

Breaking Bad could have been really cool if he did that. Maybe he couldn't have maybe he accurately predicted skylar's response and kept it a secret from her for as long as he could have because he knew damn well she'd want a divorce fuck her boss and who knows what else yeah the second she found out her husband broke bad and he and also he wasn't in it the same way that like like waltz that's true yeah waltz motive is to provide she would just be like no we'll be okay you're not going to become a criminal like your brother-in-law is a federal agent this won't work are you insane what do you methamphetamine like she'd call the

cops like marty was like hit the ground running forced into like the already powerful position by the cartel so that you're right that it's totally different scenarios marty's opening line marty's shows up with the drug dealer right he's like this is a drug dealer he's going to murder us if we don't work for him aren't you oh yes I will murder you so much like another thing

to remember is like if Walter and his family are taking on Marty and his family and like family feud the the Ozark family is going to humiliate those idiots. They're a much smarter group of people. Walt

is as capable as the Ozark family. Agreed. He could fit right in. And the wife, no, she's not. The Ozark mom is ruthless. It drops off there. Yeah, she's not bad. She's a bookkeeper. She's qualified. She caught the financial fraud in her boss's not. The Ozark mom is ruthless. It drops off there. Yeah, she's not bad. She's a bookkeeper. She's qualified. She caught the financial fraud in her boss's business.

Like, she's no dummy. But the wife on the other side was like a political mover and shaker. Mover and shaker, yeah. Like, she's world class compared to a varsity high school athlete. Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, I'm good at running this this car wash duplicitously it's like that's interesting i'm gonna help pick the mayor of st louis yeah you know who really sucks holly the one day old she can't do shit

she's quite literally an anchor that's how i'd use her that would have been better tv if they killed that baby you know it would have Because a baby is only there for one... Babies in shows and movies have two purposes. To slow things down and to die. Okay? They're either there to slow things down and cause a problem or to die. If they die, now we're all so motivated to get revenge for the baby. It's going to be great.

And what's better than baby revenge? Who would kill the baby? Oh, the Kurt Taylorson had those axe those axe wielding brothers fucking like accidentally like you know try to shoot walt but that walt they had that you know they love to do those camera angles so fucking zoom in through the bullet hole of a fucking baby carriage and like yeah like pan out and until into walt's screaming eyes or something do whatever you want to do with it it's one of gus's gus's henchmen that does it or something gus was like gus is probably my favorite character in the whole show i loved gus he was so smart he had everything fucking going he was so organized so straight laced like he was a guy every time he was on street screen i loved it

i like you're right and he is great every time he's on screen kyle mentioned the camera angles they're annoying i remember kind of liking them on the first viewing. Now, like, they can't fry an egg without putting together some sort of glass bottom frying pan through the burner camera shot. And it's just like, tick tock. This 40 minute show should have been 30 minutes because there's 10 minutes. You made me laugh with one of your messages a couple of weeks ago where you're like, I'm rewatching Breaking Bad and I'm so tired of watching entire scenes in the reflection of a doorknob. And once you said that, I'm like, oh, I do remember that. Like you're trying to tell which one's wall off the chrome of a 1950 Chevy. And you're like, it looks like one of them has a gun.

I don't know which one. We're watching a scene. They put the camera in the tailpipe and shoot out. You're watching the whole scene through like a paper towel roll. You guys just showed the scene. And there's one episode. The whole thing is cinematic masturbation where they're trying to find a fly in the cook lab thing. Yeah. And oh, my gosh. it's just camera angles from the ceiling,

camera angles from the ground, camera angles from the side. Everyone jumping at you, leaning around, cameras floating all over the place in the middle of the air. And I'm like, chasing a fly has never been so well documented. And it was lame and it was long. And I think they were just trying to say, Walt's feeling stressed. And it took 30 minutes of videography to say that.

It wasn't good. I remember that episode. I also remember not being that big of a fan because it was like, oh, it's like really demonstrating how these guys are so neurotic and so wired for anxiety right now that they will do literally anything,

including chasing a fly to take their mind off the fact that they're cooking meth for a cartel, like anything at all. And it's like, oh, after five seconds, I understand what's going on. Yes, yes. We're all in for half an hour. Yeah. I remember that scene. I mean, that episode. I agree. That's one of the worst episodes. one of my favorite moments from the show spoilers uh is when um uh gus comes in and uh like doesn't say a word comes into the lab and like takes off his suit puts on that like rubber onesie and uh without warning like kills his own guy like cuts his throat over there or whatever and like still doesn't say a word just takes it off and like puts his suit back on he might say one word before he lives he might have said something like clean this up cooking yeah clean he might say clean this up

like he said something like but it was just a one thing and then just fucking leaves and the whole time walt is like ah what you gotta understand here is we got a lot of complications on the ground and look we're gonna fix this we're gonna fix this whatever it take like he's he's begging he's begging like like he's he's trying to think his way out of this and gus is just i'm not here to talk to you i'm here to show you something yeah i'm here to kill this idiot that made a mistake to show that i'm serious yeah dude it it's a it's maybe the best show ever it's very man better than breaking bad like game of game of thrones had me if you game of thrones ended when john snow died like the first time um i think i think i would i would for the longest

time i was like no game of thrones is the best show that's ever been made like like going like three seasons fell off so much like like that third i don't even know like so much of it is so good i i still haven't watched any of the new stuff um i've seen a lot of mixed reviews on on both things because because what you're i've seen that it's hard to get the truth right because you have a lot of they call it review bombing but i'm like wait isn't that just when someone's very passionate about hating something and they're like no this is a coordinated effort by trolls and i'm like where are they coordinating i want to see the like rallies where they're like all right everybody click now like is it that or do people not like the show and and then you haven't said which show

we're talking about you said both of them so i need to catch up game of thrones and lord of the rings thank you yeah and they're both being review bomb this this applies to them equally yeah um they both have the exact same complaints as well. Yeah, look at the IMDB on the Lord of the Rings. Rings of Power reviews are very bad. People do not like the Rings of Power, but the Game of Thrones reviews, user reviews are not. What I've seen from Game of Thrones is like 50%.

The Lord of the Rings user reviews is like 30s. Game of Thrones is like 80s. It's way, way higher by user review which is the more important one i watched the first two episodes my wife was like oh i want to kind of watch the new game of thrones episodes of which two episodes of the first of the game of thrones thank you the uh the new game of thrones show and so we put it on and like it wasn't it wasn't like bad or anything it just it didn't have the magic that sucked me into Game of Thrones. Maybe it's a little bit being jaded and being like,

you're not going to get me again. I'm not going to be that invested in this. But also, the characters weren't as endearing. The main blonde who's framed to be the bad guy may be the ugliest man on Earth. He has no eyebrows. He's horrible. Viserys, I don't like the way he looks.

Is that Matt Stone or whatever? The Doctor Who guy? the ugliest man on earth. He has no eyebrows. He's horrible. Viserys, I don't like the way he looks. And also... Is that Matt Stone or whatever? The Doctor Who guy? I don't know. He doesn't have eyebrows and he's not good looking. His name is Viserys. And I don't like his eyebrows

or lack thereof. But the worst, like the thing that jumped out at me that I called out the second I saw it, there's a scene where they're talking about, oh, a new heir for the King's been named. And so they're going to have a big tournament with jousting and whatnot. And the King's brother, the guy with the no eyebrows and the blonde hair is like kind of a ruffian kind of he's in charge of the city guard, but because they didn't want him in the diplomatic side, they wanted him in, you know, just away

from it because he's a bit of a rambunambunctious guy and he comes out with do you remember the armor the hound wore in game of thrones that epic heavy solid looking head of wolf armor he looked like he could actually go to battle in that thing when he moved it moved solid as a rock there wasn't movement in that helmet this fucking guy and you can probably find a photo of it this guy he has a helmet that's supposed to have like intimidating bat wings on it but the helmet is very clearly made of cheap plastic like party city level plastic to where he when he moves his head the the wings jiggle like plastic. I'm watching it and I'm like, no, no. Are you seeing this, honey?

She's like, yeah, he's wearing a plastic hat, Viserys. You're talking about Matt Smith, right? It must be. I don't know who that is. I do not know who Matt Smith is. I don't know. This is a problem. I can't spell normal names. I'm fucked.

You know what? I apologize to Matt Smith. He's a normal looking guy not dressed up in this blonde. I figured as much. I've only seen still images of the show, so I'm aware that he's the main guy. I think something happened in episode two or three that everybody was really pumped up

about him. He did something cool. I tried to avoid spoilers, but I read something that was like, pumped really pumped up about him like he did something cool because like i really i tried to avoid spoilers but i read something that was like let's fucking go series or something like that i was like oh shit i saw a thing but i kept moving um here is uh here's a picture i found a good one oh did you just show the helmet i think so i think you'll find it to be a good picture zach will have it up in a second a bit. Yes, the exact one I was going to link. It is that still frame is the best that helmet looks in the entire episode. It shakes around. It moves. It looks like a breeze could tip it off.

It just looks really, really dumb when he's moving around. I love that he has no eyebrows. I like the rest. Yeah, the armor doesn't look good. The armor doesn't look good. Trust me, in movement, it's much more unnatural. He's got a jerkin on underneath it, so I can see that

where his bicep is. I don't know what a jerkin is. Like a fucking medieval cloth armor shirt. It's like a little bit of leather, a little bit of cloth. I'm like, does he mean merkin that's a thing i know no like i'm looking at this and everything looks cheap to me i i don't know i don't know much about anything but i can tell when something's real like like none of this is real yeah or has

been like it has a much like the the props and everything really do have a much much cheaper feel than like the original it's disappointing because i know this thing was made with nearly cost no object budget yeah like what the hell is going on here that's a that's a halloween sale helmet like no no i'll be look that's a nice helmet it just it's it's not been made to look real because it isn't real like why didn't they just make it for real? Exactly. Just make it out of metal. Make it look hefty and good. Make all the armor look real.

There should be leather inside this thing and cloth and cushioning and stuff. You don't need it, Kyle. Plastic is comfortable. I see he's got a chin strap, I think. I'm looking a little bit under there. The whole takeaway was like... My wife and I both had kind of the same take after we watched it was kind of like what do you think like meh like not great not terrible just kind of meh i'm not invested i

don't really really care too much didn't didn't i heard that uh i heard there's a lot of ugly people not as many uh i guess it was mostly the one guy i noticed but now i see his face and i feel awful i also saw like one of the showrunners already left like like really so they had this season knocked out as some some people don't realize that the season's in the can they're releasing an episode at a time it was done a year ago just everybody's clear maybe not a year ago but months and months ago um the guy who made this season like the co-runner or whatever, he's already left. What I've heard about Lord of the Rings is a lot of complaints about the woke stuff. People don't like that Galadriel is not so hot looking, I guess,

and also kind of like a bad bitch running around with a big sword and some armor beating people up. Well, I mean, all of those complaints are kind of entirely secondary, too. It's not the lord mulcan well um yeah that that that too uh and then you know the whole that's kind of the big bit and and i i saw someone um like draw a real dwarf beard on that that black lady the other day and i was like you know i'd have been okay with that like like they drew like a badass beard with like some fuck some gold ornaments and like like i don't know it was like interwoven and it was like all right she looks okay now but so i gotta explain why she's so dark because they live under the ground and that's that's an adaptation for the

sun people i wouldn't i i just i i don't care about that aspect of it like i should be extra pale i want them to have like written it like the way fucking tolkien had the age like i don't care about that aspect of it. Like I should be, I want, I want them to have like written it like the way fucking Tolkien had the age. Like, and that way you could be like, Oh, all these things are actually going to have an impact on the flow of the, of the whole, of all the ages coming together.

And it's Tolkien's wonderful tale, but no, it's just a bunch of people at Amazon making up characters that has nothing to do with the third age. I would be so upset if I was watching the show about this. I don't even know. I have no idea. and i think i'm more typical in this like i think only according to the reviews people hate the lord of the rings and i think the lore is the biggest thing behind it because like you can see the ratings for house of the dragon people are like yeah it's not great but like

it's the same lore it's the same shit going on. You're in that world. Lord of the Rings is jarring. Cause it's like, Hey, you know that story with all that lore and all those details and all those characters that you know and love. Guess what? None of that's there. None of this has anything to do with the entire story arc.

It's kind of just, we're playing Legos in this world and it's like, okay, have fun, but I'm not interested. I hear you. If you asked me to name all the lord of the rings characters yeah i got there i would be like pippin the tree one gandalf

uh pippin the tree ones and gandalf who the fuck else is in it? There's giant birds. This is telling. There's nadars or something. Imagine the scene. The bad guys that fly. They're all in Rivendell. Who's sitting around?

Who's sitting around talking about the ring? I mean, I know there's the guy who was the main character. Actors names only. John Rhys-Davies. Orlando Bloom. Legolas. I know him. And G legolos i know him uh and gimley i know him yeah uh now that i'm reminded right so so yeah i feel like there's a lot of people not far from where i am who are like not invested in the lore now you might think that but like based on the reviews like people are not happy

about not following the lore. I really do think it's largely lore. What the heck is his name? Frodo. Frodo. Frodo, yes, yes. Frodo, I know him. Yes, you certainly do. Yes. He's the one with the... He's the main guy, you know? He's on Tatooine.

He's got the green lightsaber. His dad is Darth Vader. He's the one... He'sine. He's got the green lightsaber. His dad is Darth Vader. What? He's not in Frodo. He's the one that's got the silver necklace that he needs to throw in that swamp. Who's the young man with the spider powers? It's not coming to me. All these properties we're referencing

are so culturally impactful that we don't have to say it, right? But then, like, name one person from Avatar. One character from Avatar. Their fucking name i know i know i know one actor and that's because i'm a huge sigourney weaver fan i was gonna say sigourney weaver the guy um the guy who played the mean music teacher i want their character's name oh i don't i don't even actor oh well it's the um the guy that goes we are farmers like what

zach said jack sully and i think he's right i thought his name was john but he's probably right i have no idea i have no idea dude here i've said this before but i want avatar people avatar is one of the most financially successful films ever made i think it's been passed by some avengers stuff but they re-released just to say fuck you to disney i didn't know that okay okay so avatar is arguably the most successful movie to have ever been made yet it has no cultural impact i think what avatar actually did was become the 3d movie that everyone wanted to use to see 3D technology. They wanted to see a modern 3D movie. They went and saw Avatar. They thought it was good. You know, it was good.

Good in the way that like the modern Star Wars movies are good. Not culturally shifting, but good. And then that was it. But it can get mixed up with a movie that really defines Western culture. Or at least is a big chunk of participating. It's a tickle me Elmo. That movie is a tickle me Elmo. It is a hot shot frozen in time

that was for that time. A big mouth Billy Bass. A big mouth Billy Bass. Exactly. The movie was good. It wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't even an average movie. I thought it was pretty good. It's derivative. It's kind of beat you over the head.

It's with the whole environmentally woke shit. It's Fern Gully sucking dances with Wolf's dick. Yeah, in Smurfland. Smurfland. It should be like Siskel and Myers. You guys should be movie reviewers.

Those guys are dead. Oh, I'm not sure. No, that would fall apart so fast. I just don't know. I don't know. I don't know about Gargamel from the Smurfs, though. They're making more. They're being made.

There's supposed to be like four more sequels or something. Of course, with a big budget. How could they say no when he shows up? Hey, remember that biggest thing ever if you gave me i would make another investing opportunity into avatar i would say no but it's their business i think they must know they usually know right and i'm talking about like uh studio executives like these are the people who would know they would have you would do some research some market research to find like, I would

imagine like you're suggesting. They do flops all the time. And it's John Carpenter. Yeah, but. Didn't he do that giant flop, the big. John Carpenter. No, no, no, no, no. Do I have his name wrong?

Who's the director? Oh, John Carpenter wishes. It's. It's. Peter Jackson. It's James Cameron. James Cameron. That's who I'm thinking of.

And is John Carpenter the movie he made that was a big flop? John Carpenter is also a director. He made The Thing. What's the movie where they went to another planet? Shucks. I think James Cameron did it. That's James Cameron. You're talking about the Alien prequels. James Cameron's biggest flop. Probably not much there.

I feel like all his stuff does really well. Was it Terminator 2? Or was it Aliens? How did that Abyss do? Hey, wait a minute. How was Titanic again? How did they do? Huh. He's going to average right around a billion point two.

Pretty good track record. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe i'm assigning the wrong i i think that um there were some fans a little bit disappointed with the recent stuff that he's done with the alien universe the uh in the prequels with shaw and everything and her character being killed off in the second movie and uh a lot of people didn't like that stuff and he's got a lot of influence in that aliens world uh i think he got some flack because of that i didn't like that stuff, and he's got a lot of influence in that Aliens world. I think he got some flack because of that. I don't like that stuff either myself. It's just not what I wanted. I always wanted that.

I talked to one of our recent guests about it, how I wanted the sequel with Sigourney Weaver coming back for Alien 3. But they just ruined Alien as far as I'm concerned. It hasn't been good for, I don't know, decades now. All right. I did figure it out. The movie I was talking about was John Carter and it's unrelated to Avatar. Yeah, that's just, yeah. It feels like it's cut from the same cloth.

If you saw those trailers back to back, you'd be like, oh, two gigantic CGI dependent, epic space kind of things like sci-fi nonsense. I wonder which one will be bigger. Right, yeah. And it turned out John Carter was a very expensive flop, and that's my prediction for Avatar 2, but we'll see. I watched a video about why it flopped along,

and I don't remember the fine details, but it had a lot to do with marketing. It had a lot to do with marketing. I saw it and thought it was okay. I don't remember the fine details, but it had a lot to do with marketing. It had a lot to do with marketing. Something about... I saw it and thought it was okay. The first trailer that they cut, I think, was for the Super Bowl, and it was real bad. They're like, all right, watch this trailer.

Do you want to see that movie? No! No one does! Now watch this trailer! And it's like a recut trailer from maybe the director or someone who actually had something to do with the making of the movie and you're like do you want to see that movie and I was like actually I do want to see

that movie is that what John Carter's like that's not bad I've never seen John Carter and I never will and I think it's based on some fucking sci-fi novels what I want is more of the expanse though but there's clearly not a market for that that shit got canned right I don't know I don't think they don't make a lot of the stuff that i like

anymore and that's that what's going to get made is what's going to make the most money so you just got to hope that the market somehow gets more conducive to making good stuff and and what's good stuff i bet there's tons of people watching this game of thrones show or excuse me lord of the rings show and just loving it's the It's the best show they've ever seen. For someone, that's the best TV show they've ever seen, and they can't wait for next week. It's just not us. Yeah.

Or anyone else with good taste. Yeah, or anyone else with good taste. Exactly. Some people like nonsense. I mean... All that wonderful lore there to have fun with. I mean, I drive by Burger King every day. Somehow they stay in business. There's people without good taste.

Burger King is unreal how bad it is. It's the worst fast food place on Earth. You've never had a burger from there that didn't look like someone had sat on it? I've never seen one that looked like it wasn't made with malice. That's a spite burger! They will miss the cheese

on purpose. They'll spite will miss the cheese on purpose. They'll spitefully miss the cheese. That's the only place that... Can you believe the gall that the Burger King has to charge you extra for that slice of cheese? Oh. It's... Come on, inflation isn't that bad. Like, I don't need an extra cheese slice charged.

But yeah, Burger King is the worst. There's no reason for it to still be in business. I don't like the taste cheese slice charged yeah burger king is the worst there's no reason for it's the only one i don't like the taste of the charbroiled beef that i actually enjoy i'm gonna be honest i like that it like a junior whopper that i got to like put the ingredients on myself wouldn't be a bad burger it's just their service and like their tomato and lettuce and all that's fucking gross just that charbroiled meat like whatever they whatever that flavor is that smell for you non-americans or people with taste who've never had a burger king burger it has this charbroiled smoky sort of like i don't know backyard kind of taste to it that you'll never replicate in a back backyard because they did it on a broiler yeah and a burger

king but it's one of the few restaurants where like there's smoke coming out of the top of this place. They're cooking in there. And then you get there. And it's horrible. Their fries are the worst in the business. Nothing comes close to how bad a Burger King... It's... It's baffling that they've been in the biz this long

and they're horrible. They're so, so bad. You're right. Burger King staying in business is almost suspicious i was just thinking long john silver i was thinking that too long john silver has way better tasting food than burger king way better um what i am psyched for is this john snow show so here's here's my prediction they're gonna turn game of thrones into a universe all right every every every every studio every one who owns like a property wants a universe they all do they see the billions that can be made from doing it

like why would we want this little fart in a plant a pan like avatar yeah we got a billion 20 years ago like like let's let's crank out a billion a year in perpetuity that's what i'm talking about we need a universe so they going to universe this fucking Game of Thrones thing and you're getting a Jon Snow show in like a year you're getting a Jon Snow show and he's going to be fucking north of like the crumbled wall and they're going to manufacture a new threat that he will need

to guard the realms from and somebody's got to go down south to talk to that little cripple in the wheelchair and let him know about the new trouble. It'll be a sequel. They're going to do it. I'm down. That's what I want. I don't really love prequels. Hey, why don't you watch this?

You know how it ends? Yeah, it ends like the other one began. Oh, you know what you guys would hate about the House of the Dragon prequel? It was like in the first or second episode. Long Night reference? Yes, it was a dialogue between the king and his daughter or whatever. He's talking

about like someday a long night will come and people must be united against this ever long night to fight it and it's like relax it's a fucking lunar eclipse it's two minutes a girl who has nothing to do with the prophecy is going to handle it like it's fine none of the stuff you're going to talk about matters. As soon as I saw that, I'm like, are you teasing me? Are you teasing me? Because I know the Long Knight doesn't really have teeth at the end of this.

Here's what I want. I want Jon Snow's show to begin with him waking up and all that shit was a dream. And he's still in that boat with Daenerys and she's sucking his dick. Jon Snow episode one was the most viewed show in television

history with 47 million views. Did she suck his dick on that boat? No, but that's what I want. My show, she will. My show, when she wakes up, she sucks. Yes. She fucked him on the boat, right? I wanted her to have their retarded bastard baby. I don't remember any details. I remember somebody at the door all creepy maybe it was the

little guy um it i i didn't watch that last season i've seen the first season of game of thrones eight times i've seen the second season like eight times but then as you get further along that number shrinks to one because it was just so dreadful by the end you know like i could watch that first season over and over and get to get so pumped and so mad and so upset with like these oh these i thought about this last night game of thrones did this thing where the bad guys just won for like years like like you get glimmers of hope and then they pull the rug out over and over. The bad guys kept... It wasn't... You know, I'm watching The Expanse,

and every season, the bad guys are like, Aha! We got you! Now we've got nukes! And they'll be like, Oh, shit. The OPA has nukes. Oh, and then they'll be like, Oh, there's a new faction, and they've got the protomolecule.

Oh, no! And every season, we, like, get rid of that thread. No, not in this. It would be like if every season of The Expanse, they just had a new enemy, and they never dealt with any of them. They just kept piling up. That's what Game of that threat. No, not in this. It would be like if every season of The Expanse, they just had a new enemy and they never dealt with any of them. They just kept piling up. That's what Game of Thrones was. It looked perilous. It looked hopeless.

And I was just like, there's no way that... There's no way this ends well. We knew it well for our guys. It just seemed like Jon Snow had to die. There's no way he could survive this. I would have liked it so much more if he'd given his life for the cause and she hadn't gone crazy and burned all those people

and just some of the fast traveling hadn't happened. I fast forwarded to this next scene. It shows Jon Snow on top of her in what I presume to be missionary if not something close and both of them were shown from the collarbone up. Bullshit.

I also like stars that aren't afraid of nudity if you're going to be in one of these like prime time 15 million dollar an episode shows um i don't know i actually i'm fine with start i like stars that are okay with nudity high budget or low budget i don't know why kyle added that qualifier any kind is fine it could be an iphone if it's 15 million dollars an episode someone needs to be looking into the props department i truly i don't know what it costs but i would i would guess that's about right i doubt that's off by much there's also in the if you ever end up watching it you will be able to tell very quickly there are characters where there is a 0% chance they will die

in the new one. It's like, oh, the daughter of the king. Okay, she's safe. Nothing bad's going to happen to her. So another thing I heard, lots of bad wigs. So next time you watch, next episode, pay attention to the wigs. See if you can spot them. One issue I have, they keep talking about how expensive it is, right?

So much of that went to the rights to get the show. That doesn't make the show better. If you pay me a quarter million dollars for my autobiography, and then the whole thing costs like a quarter million and ten dollars, don't talk to me about your production costs.

That's true. That's true of Lord of the Rings, because they spent a quarter billion for the rights to whatever that literature is. But with Game of Thrones, it's their a quarter billion for the rights to whatever that literature is. With Game of Thrones, it's their shit, right? No, no, no. They've got to pay something to Martin, I suppose. I would guess, yeah.

I don't know what he does. Is he still pretending he's a current actor? Yeah, he tweeted the other day. Got another page done. Five more years years he promises um no i i he's still he's still like tweeting and stuff and talking about the show um i saw him like there was some drawing of uh like the big dragon i can't remember its name the biggest dragon ever but but martin was like this is the most accurate painting i've ever seen this is how big drogon

or whatever the fuck actually was. And it's like, oh, okay. So the size of a castle. A school, a whole bunch of school children could easily fit in his mouth. 25 kids could hop in this guy's mouth at the same time and hang out together. You could park a minivan in his mouth

no problem. I mean, I was about to say, oh, if he releases the next book, so I'm not even going to read it. And I was like, that's such a lie. That's such a lie. I was about to say like oh if he releases the next book so I'm not even going to read it and I was like that's such a lie that's such a lie I'm going to be in line I'm going to buy it the second it comes out I got those credits on audible just itching ready to start a new book from man

yeah the second it comes out I'm going to tear it up there's no reason even pretending otherwise that's probably a wrap there yeah alright PKN 420