Painkiller Already - PKN 439

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

I look so sweaty and bad and Kyle made a good joke oh hi PKN something something something PKN with our fuzzy friend Taylor over here he's been working on his out of focus camera with our late friend me Kyle had a good joke that I looked like

a fucking lifetime movie memory of someone like one of those badly edited it's so bad when when they've got a character who like picks up a photograph and looks at it like memories past and it's a terribly photoshopped childhood photo of him and his co-star it's like that is not what brad pitt looks like as a child as a younger man i know what i remember brad pitt as a young man yeah it's not going to work. Taylor's coming in fuzzy,

but that's okay. He bought a spaceship of a PC that'll be here any day now, and I'm sure that's the problem. That's why his camera's fuzzy. Yeah, it needs more horsepower in that machine. It's the GPU! You need more? It's the CUDA cores!

You gotta have those CUDA cores that hype for threading. Guy doesn't have ray tracing and now he's all fuzzy. That's clearly it. Thank you. That's exactly why. I was like, I don't care if I get an nicer PC but I need to stop looking so fuzzy. Taylor really needs

to link up that $3,500 PC at 60 frames per second to play his games better exactly yeah how much ram did you download oh all of it good there's there's there's reports from the internet police saying our ram's been stolen from the internet some some genius has stolen our ram and then not figured out how to use it to get an hd video so yeah that's fucking annoying i know that taylor's getting a new pc very soon and i'm sure many of you are curious about what's going on with woody's pc i know my friends that i play tarkov what did the with they're always asking hey when's woody

coming we know what he likes to play when's woody gonna play well how's his pc doing what's going on woody's pc well um i we figured out what was going on with your PC in a chat earlier, Woody. You should tell your story, but then I'll... You probably already know, but it's clear now, now that I talked it out with them. Not just kind of reasoning through it. I know what happened now. So please tell everybody what happened to your PC. So I have an update that you haven't heard yet, and I'm wondering if you are right.

Well, shit, that's not fair. Don, and I'm wondering if you are right. Well, shit, that's not fair. Don't double check my homework. You go first. Okay. So when I last talked to the boys on WhatsApp, and we have this WhatsApp chat, we talk every day. And the guy's like, the case is bad. The GPU is bad.

And the PSU, the power supply unit, is bad and the psu the power supply unit is bad and chiz funny is like would you just go to a dumpster of broken servers like what's with your failure rate um the case was bad in that when he took the motherboard out of the case uh it worked better you know like it could boot up and stuff the gpu he tried it in a few other machines, but couldn't get it to work. Well, since then, I think he did get the GPU to work. It was the power supply that was bad. He said that he needed a bigger one, like 1,000 watts or something like that. It is a 4080, which is a pretty power-hungry GPU. I don't know if the CPU, a Ryzen 5000-something or other, is also power-hungry, but those are the two big power

consumers. So maybe I was underpowering it. What was your other power supply? How many watts? So I never used. It was 800 to answer your question. I think so too. I thought that would be enough, but it's working with a thousand. I don't

know. Here's my theory i think that i may have combined you know the cords that go from the power supply to like everywhere else we just grab them from my bag of power supply cords i'm like maybe i'm mixing and matching cords from one power supply that belong to another and it's not working like i thought it would even though it plugs in well i don't know yeah but uh i mean you know how many pins it would it would it would you know how many uh that's not it just seems like if i have an eight pin thing and everything clicks well that i expect it to work well but someone on the internet said it's not that easy what do i

know i've never fucking mix and matched them before I built PCs before but I always bought all the parts on the on game day I didn't just dig into my closet what does that mean eight eight pin oh it's it's it's as simple as it sounds like there's eight pins on one side and eight pins on the other six on the other and you just plug like I was like performance insertion So I think maybe my power supply had mix and match cords and I fucked it up that way. I think at one point the motherboard was touching the case and that's why it wasn't booting. Someone on the internet said that

could cause this symptom. And when he took the motherboard out of the case and just had it on a cardboard box or something, it worked for him. So that's a hint that it doesn't install easily to this case my thought was like based on all the symptoms you had was that the case was a um component killer and that every not the component the the case had killed your first gpu and then

you had just fed it a new one it killed that one and it had killed your old motherboard and you just fed it a new one and had now killed that one. And now like it had killed so many things because it's been like hotwired to your motherboard for so long. But now the power supply itself is like fusing. So it's like I'm not meant for this. I'm not a welder. And so that was my thought that you just had like the motherboard touching the shorting out against the case, and the case was a component killer. But it sounds like maybe not.

I thought that because you had a GPU die and then another brand new GPU die, but it sounds like now that thing's moving around and working in other systems. What a shit show. Yes, I'm on the edge of being like, you know what? Keep all that shit. I'm buying a new everything that will just work. I should have done this a while ago before I sank. I don't even know, $1,500 or two grand into this project.

And your time. Yeah, now it's the time. And my time. Precious, precious time. I'm so short on time. You have no idea how busy I am. And my wife is slipping through your fingers, Woody. Sometimes I do two things in one day.

Sometimes I shit and work out. Sometimes I eat on top of that. Yeah, that sucks. The Tarkov wife is slipping through your fingers. It really is. You're level 40 and I'm level 0 at this point. I got the computer to work well enough to choose my character's voice and then i never got it to work

deep into it i am that's an important choice because you can change it anytime you want no i didn't know that i listened to all the voice lines. That's funny. Do they have... Can you go bare and then have the English in Russian accent? Yeah. They have that because they rumored it wipes ago. That's what I do.

Shucks. I wish I knew that. My guy's like, what was that? Probably nothing. He's like, sca was that? Probably nothing. He's like, scavs here? No way. The whole time. He never speaks actual Russian, but it's always English with a Russian accent and sort of broken up and a little gibberish. It's good.

It's my preferred way to go. I've been waiting for that for a while. It would be mine, mine too if i knew it was there oh well yeah um yeah no you look there's a the rest of the guys that are in like that i play with none of them are going as hard as i go um so like they're all strung along between level 10 and 20 or so maybe maybe larry is far enough along that he can gift me shit again. Maybe a whole PC. No.

Is he not as far as you? Uh-uh. Oh, okay. Larry's probably like low 20s, I would guess. Somewhere in there. Yeah, he's still grinding himself. Yeah. Oh, it's quite the grind.

I'm close enough to Kappa now that it's within sight. Like, I've got... Kappa? That's top level, right? I got like so many of the tasks done like i've just been powering through the tasks i'm like i've done all the proper tests i got my epsilon container um so i'm i'm just kind of speeding through them cap you probably heard in tarkov there's this secure container where you can put things and even if you die you keep them they call it putting it up their butt in tarkov nomenclature so uh kyle and i have gamma which is the second largest container and we earned it by giving them real life money and but there's an even better container

called kappa which you earn in game and it is one of the hardest achievements in all of gaming anywhere and uh pal says he's done almost all the tasks i don't know what the level requirement And it is one of the hardest achievements in all of gaming anywhere. And Kyle says he's done almost all the tasks. I don't know what the level requirement is this wipe. Do you? I don't either. The real hard part about it. So there are some tasks.

Real quick, do you get to that every wipe? You get to the Kappa chest? I don't think either of us have ever had Kappa. No, neither of us have ever done it. I came really close. I was like a task away and they announced a wipe so i'd go farther i've got like 3 500 hours and i've never come close um you've really got you've got to intend to do it like you can play the game it's like skyrim right or or something like that yeah yeah i've got 10 000 hours no i don't have every fucking collectible and every dungeon explored and every this that and the other because that would be insane well in this game it's like yeah we're keeping track so you better get all that stuff yeah so you better hit all

those dungeons idiot if you want your chest yeah yeah so there's some quests that are it if you just like walk in there like with a pistol if you a bot could do it just it's it's walk here walk there and do it enough times so that nobody interrupts you in the middle. Eventually that'll happen. But some of them, it's like, get this rare, expensive shit. I know, you can only get one of them.

I know, you can barely afford it. Now go in there and kill five people with it. What? Are you thinking of the M1 thermal one? Yeah. If you die, it's like oh no i need i don't have that thing anymore and i didn't yeah it's like they'll say hey kill five other players with this gun and it's like what there's no assurance that i will actually kill five people before i have a death yeah and uh this gun's very valuable that people want and i can't buy another one i don't have like the traders unlocked at the time i do though uh like

at this point i can i can barter for thermals like i've gone deep into the fucking quest like that's the thing i've seen for the first time because in the past i would be like no i'm not gonna jump through your hoops and ladders i'm not gonna go to shoreline and shoot 30 scavs in the foot with a shotgun fuck you i'm to play the game and have fun. But that meant that I didn't have my traders ranked up, so it meant that I couldn't buy the things that I wanted to buy, all the little intricate parts that you need for the gunsmith. I'm done with gunsmith now.

There are 22 parts of gunsmith. It used to be 16. Now, are there fun bits of the gunsmith? Or is it like smithing in Skyrim? It's all miserable. Gunsmith is literally like the guy goes, hey, I got a special order from a client. He wants an M4 carbine with this much recoil,

but he likes a laser sight on the side and this kind of grip. And basically what they're saying is, go get all these pieces, bobs, and ends and build this gun for us. What do you mean you can't you can't buy it because you don't you haven't unlocked maximum traders to your gunsmith all right we'll go out into the world and hope you find that one brown oh is that the brown one he wants the green one oh you found the green one hey you found the green one good the other green one aquamarine one.

There are two different, there are four different colors of an angled grip and they want a specific green one. God damn it. And if you don't have it, and so what other players will do. Dude, that would be enough to turn me off a game forever. If I'm grinding and I show up with a teal handle

and I'm like, here you go, sir. And he's like, wonderful. Just bring back that green handle and we'll get this handled for you. And it's like, what? As far green handle and we'll get this handled for what i want hunter green yeah we need british racing green yeah um so the the real quest that's going to be annoying um because the others are just time and effort and grinding is you have to find there's this one at the end where fence wants you to find all the streamer

items and what i mean by streamer items if you stream this game a significant amount enough amount of time it seems like the developers take notice of you you get be a little build a little audience and they're like hey dr disrespect would you like an item within the game and he's like yeah like what would you like it to be how about some fucking red doctor's disrespect body armor cool it's in the game and they did that for like 30 fucking different streamers cool and all those items are in the world randomly laying around so at some point they're gonna want landmarks rat poison they're gonna want gng's fucking keychain they're gonna want willers's wallet they're gonna they're all raley's mask the varying levels of rarity because like you find

them all the time because there's so goddamn many of them but at the end it's it's like we want them all yeah we want them all oh you found all of them but three oh you sold those eight months ago for 40 000 rubles you should have kept it in storage all this time this game's just too intimidating and by the way storage is a limited commodity you're always wishing you had more storage so when you find dr lupo's coffee taking two or four spots i don't recall or one then uh you don't want to hang on to it for nine months in hopes that someday you're so close to kappa you might want this again. But that is the move.

Alright, I've been playing up Tarkov that I think that I have great Tarkov ideas that if anyone's ever come up with them before, they haven't heard them. So here are my two additions to the game that they need to add, they could add, and it would be tremendous, okay? Shoot. Just rental

storage units in tarkov i want to pay rubles to prapper he's got a storage unit it costs x amount of rubles per day if i don't pay him he's gonna sell my shit on the street it's gonna go up somewhere it's gonna go on the market or whatever he's gonna recoup his funds like storage wars that's so fun i love that and then i'm renting that space out and if I go like away from the game, my shit's going on the market for everybody else. Yeah. And you and the other people buy it sight unseen.

So it's like, Hey, do you want a storage unit? One 47. And it's like, what's in it? Yeah. I wasn't necessarily thinking storage wars,

but I do like that angle. This is fun. The main point to me would be that you could rent storage. That would be big because storage is a big problem in the game. Where do you put your shit? Sometimes you have a huge item like a big Zabralo armor that you get early that you need to hang on to until mid to late game. Shit, throw that big 4x4 thing in your thing.

I'll give you 50,000 rubles a day forever. The other thing that I think would be cool and they just added the uh the gym so there's room right right there next to it i saw that stupid fucking i'm in there fucking pumping iron every day god damn it i pump iron in an alton i'm fucking hardcore i have a russian space helmet with a goddamn visor you're not full strength yet no god no it's such a grind to get i've got air filters in library in not even like you're putting in sets for a character like like you're legit being like x push all right i gotta hit x a little faster because you know he's gonna hurt his shoulder there hey tuck those elbows idiot we're gonna

get a shoulder problem like you told me before that strength came fairly easily i guess you vaulted you updated it comes first it comes first um so strength comes long before endurance because just a basic loadout what we would consider like okay you got your gun you got three magazines you got 30 or 40 extra bullets uh back you know all the basics you're over you're overweight you're way overweight so when you're overweight you're building strength when you're underweight you're like you know when your character feels comfortable i'll say now you're building endurance when you run around so basically you never really build endurance unless you're underweight, you're like, you know, when your character feels comfortable, I'll say now you're building endurance when you run around. So basically you've never really built endurance unless you're either pumped up on drugs, which I do a lot, or, uh, you're running a very light

kit, which for me is a shotgun with AP 20. That's a pretty light kit. You don't need a, a rig or anything. Here's my other idea though. Here's my other Tarkov edition. When you, the real problem with Tarkov, the thing that makes people angry is when you die it takes forever to get geared back up again so they need a quick way to gear back up so you add an addition inside the hideout where you've got mannequins you've got mannequins that you put gear sets on okay and you can walk up to that gear set and you can access it you can press your action key and everything you've got will jump onto it and everything that it's got on it We'll jump onto you and your kit your gear

You got a backpack a gun all the ammo that your pockets are filled your your Soleil was everything and and you would like build This thing would like new parts that we would put into the game You don't interchange where you got all those mannequins those creepy ass mannequins that are like When you go around a corner now you got to get mannequin parts you got to go in there you got to farm up multiple mannequin bodies one piece at a time the parts are going to be big in your bag i want to see you stuff a mannequin in your backpack and try to escape exchange with like mannequin parts sticking out of the back and sides of it that i can visibly see i would like that i would like that very much no i those are those are my two charcoal

those are excellent ideas thank you you were close taylor they weren't just good close but no cigar i think what you like the first one because like the things i keep in storage i i'm bigger on the second one but everybody else is bigger on the first one too the idea of buying somebody else's like i don't know old storage they may have left the game because they're they finished kyle repeatedly stopped playing when the game when he's when the grind is over he now his storage has good shit in it people keep guns and armor in their stash that are so good they don't want to risk them in raid so if i buy your storage sight, you could have been a garbage player that quit at level six and just never got good stuff.

You could have also been a pro player who quit at level 52 and just decided that you're so rich and you've done so many tasks that now the game isn't what it was at the start of the wipe. And that happens a lot as well. You don't know what you're going to get in these storage purchases. Well, that's a different idea. My main thing would just be buying

additional storage to run that. For real life money, that'll go over well. No, no, no, no, no. For in-game money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is just like an addendum onto your idea. It's a great idea. People would buy the boxes

to win. You would buy the boxes in rubles, like, depending on, I mean, who knows? It would be like the show. It would be by in-game rubles and it would be by bidding. And like Woody said, like, it could be trash or it could be some dude who's just like, you know what? On to the next game. I'm done. And it could be a treasure trove

of everything. I bet people would have a good time with that. It would also be way easier to forget to pay your bill than you might think. There are a lot of things in Tarkov that make you come back. It's like, hey, we're done. Come back in an hour and a half. It'll be done. And you're like, fuck. Alright, let me set a timer.

I'm not even kidding. We all do it. It sucks. I don't like that there's there's this there's like a global timer running that's that's like solid you know the same for everybody on the planet that's playing the game and uh like like all sorts of things reset according to that timer and so we're all watching oh shit when's proper reset i need ammo two and a half hours fuck all right i'll do something else set my alarm for two hours 15 all right i'll tell you something else it's just my alarm for two hours 15 minutes so i can spend 15 minutes hard scoping prapper hoping there's ammo on the market or um some shit are there any games you guys can wake up every morning and take the bitcoins out

so that it didn't jack did it for him when he was away yeah yeah i would go on these weekends of like acro flying and stuff and i'm like jackie i need you every morning before you wake up and before you go to bed to take the bitcoin out of my machine because did she put fuel into yeah yeah and i teach her like here's how fuel goes in here yeah but you have to make wires as well you're like all right i need you to make one And every three and a half hours, you're going to make eight wires out of two cords. It's called Kappa. And you're going to get it for me. You're going to a map called Interchange, okay?

You're going to look for the PC room. Two cords makes eight wires. It's money, baby, money. Don't you take my M4s in here. You suck at this game. You're like that dad in Angels in the Outfield. You're like, yeah, I'll come home for my motorcycle trip when you get

Kappa. When the Angels win the pennant. Do you remember that? Oh, I forgot that. That's the whole... Is that the plot? That was the plot. It was a dirt beat dad in the whole plot. And it was because he also was going on a cross-country motorcycle trip, I believe. This is striking a little close to home.

Yeah. That would be so stupid. I hope my computer's here this week. I hope it's here for Thursday, but we'll see. Yeah. Smart money says. I've noticed that like PC delivery services, Amazon, all these other services, if they tell you. Sometimes Amazon will like,

I feel like they do it to surprise me. They'll be like, oh, sir, that's going to take two weeks. And then like a day later, I get a notification where it's like, boom, it arrived. Did you use iBuyPower? No, I used Lite, L-Y-T-E something. And it said between two and three weeks. And why?

Is it in the mail? Because it was, I don't know, a friend of mine was like, And it said between two and three weeks. And. Why? Because it was, I don't know, a friend of mine was like, oh, I got a PC from here and it worked great and I like it. And I was like, OK. And so then I looked and it was like the same price. He leaned on his friend from the real world. He's a computer engineer. No, trust me, they can be idiots. Oh, OK. So is Woody. Yeah, that was the joke, yeah. Oh, okay. So is Woody!

Yeah, that was the joke, yeah. Oh, la-di-da! Does he have a degree in everything, Taylor? I'm just saying. For anybody else who might want a PC in a timely fashion that works, iBuyPower will ship you that shit. They do it so fast.

They send you an email every time they do a thing to it. They're like, hey, because they burn it in like they try it out two or three times and it goes technician one has approved it it has moved on to technician two and it's like every time they do it you're getting emails and they're rapid fire every hour and a half it's moved through the assembly line and i'm not talking about during business hours it's one in the morning and they're notifying me to ship it to the right address that was on me frankly i put i put the right wrong address in they refused to alter the address which angered me greatly so fuck them in the ass but if you want a pc where else would i it's where i go

look i don't love what coca-cola like does to the rainforest probably but i drink the shit all day every day okay i i'm not a man of principles woody i'm just trying to get the shit done that's where i am with falcon northwest like i listen i hate that their customer support rep chastised me for not calling customer support and waiting or something i don't know i called him three times i couldn't get anyone on the phone and then like he's still mad at me for not going through them or giving them enough chance i'm not sure but if i had to buy a new computer now they do have rack mountable rgb like gaming things that i like so i might go back to them okay so again for everybody else yeah you can go right on over to iBuyPower.

I'm looking at my old iBuyPower PC that worked for three years solid. I'm remembering back to the one before that that worked for three years solid and is still working for Kitty. It's the PC that she fucking streams on. And my new one sitting over there from iBuyPower. They all worked great. I never had issues with them. And they make like $150 a fucking pc like yeah so my

manufacturer they might not work if that's what you're looking for yeah but they look dope i'm looking to get verbally abused in the process they offer that because they make me feel bad can they insult me and bully me and belittle me and make me feel bad for putting the wrong address in and not fix it yeah i will i and i'm glad that they made it right with you but i mean that's why i didn't i didn't use that that company kyle because i mean i do not want to support anyone that wouldn't change the dress for you i'm looking at your build taylor and i mean you could have just told us you were gay in a regular way, like in a straightforward way. This rainbow white.

This dude, I once saw a picture of Elton John licking an ice cream cone, and it's less gay than the computer you've chosen. You spared no expense. I wanted to work for the longest time possible. And believe it or not. A two terabyte M.2? What are you thinking? What's going on there? And that was the cheapest.

That was the stock case on it. And I didn't want to get a different one and spend more. So I left that one on it. I think it's fine. Can you turn off the lights? Because that seems like a waste. I think it's fine. Can you turn off the lights? Because that seems like a waste. I'm looking at the... Oh, this case. Yeah, on the case.

You can turn off the lights, I'm sure. I don't get the lights. It just seems like kind of a waste of energy. Or it probably doesn't take hardly anything. It's LED. Yeah, mine doesn't have any lights in it except for on the CPU cooler. I really dislike them yeah i i don't care about them that much either but it seems to be that everybody must like the

lights because you look up pcs and they're all making big fucking deals about their lights and the patterns falcon northwest you pay extra not to have lights so i was like fuck it i'm flexible yeah whatever just leave lights on i'll be just a constant little disco if my computer was in the office i'm sorry in a bedroom or something i would care more but it's in the office it doesn't matter what it looks like yeah that's true like if this were like if this were like a true workspace and I was like, like having people over like, Oh, come in. Like I would not have that,

but I wouldn't have half the shit up in here. I wouldn't have a ton of Dick compils over there. If I was having people, there wouldn't be a whole weed section of that table of just vapes and everything. Oh, I wanted to ask you, Kyle,

the last of us, because I was going to start that last night at like eleven thirty. But you said it was like an hour and a half long. And I'm like, I want to be paying attention for it. Yeah, yeah, it is worthwhile. Definitely. I think it's excellent. I think it's real fucking good.

So I would preface it by saying I never saw. What is it? The or I never played the video game. All I know about the video game is, is I guess that like everybody got mad in the second one. Cause the chick got, got like big and dykey and, and,

uh, and I don't know, maybe, maybe like killed, killed the guy or something. I don't know. Spoilers. I don't know what happened,

but I don't care. But, uh, but this show, um, it is, it is excellent. And I've been told by the game players that they go shot for shot on the,

like the, the, the early scenes go shot for shot on the like the the the early scenes um some of the some of that stuff and that is great yeah look at this oh yeah it's a good audience score so let me i'll uh i won't spoil anything um um but i'll just kind of lay out like the deal uh we start off in i think 2003 with a flashback that lasts a significant part of the first episode where we we understand why the world is the way it is now um i think we start with one of those cool interviews with on like from like the 70s with like some cigar cigarette smoking scientists being interviewed and a studio audience is sitting there listening and the one guy is like well it is not the

virus we should be afraid of nor the bacteria but the fungi and the crowd goes fungus and he's like yes and he like lays out the case

as if any crowd would be so knowledgeable on the threats of bacteria, viruses, and fungi that they would burst asunder in laughter. No, this gentleman overstates the threat of fungi. You'd think athlete's foot or like fungus. Or mushrooms, yeah. But they were talking about it in the context of like a population ending kind of thing.

And he starts talking about those parasitic fungi that get into ants and make them look ridiculous. So that's what we've got going on. We've got a fungus like that that's controlling people. And it's horrific what it does to them. It's pretty fucking scary. Oh, it doesn't make you, they're not hidden. They don't look like a normal person. You'll see.

Okay. And, you know, it does different stuff to you over time, the longer it's, you know, in you. And so you got Pedro Pascal and his family, and you see, you know, what goes on with them. And then you flash forward 20 years, now that you've got like the the the sort of apocalypse beginning established established and now you get it

now you're already basically post-apocalyptic by the year 2023 which is where the majority of the show is set and uh you got pedro pascal living in new boston i'll call it a walled in um remnant uh that seems to be maybe like a few dozen city blocks but the skyscrapers are like destroyed in the distance and you've got uh sort of the fascist remnant of the united states government fedra sort of looming over everything um hanging people uh for offenses you know curfews um very fascist seemingly. But there's the looming fungi world pandemic thing. So it's like, well, maybe we do need to tighten our belts up. And you've got a terrorist-ish group who want freedom called the Fireflies.

And Pedro Pascal is just kind of like working and trying to do whatever he can to get a vehicle because he wants to go to Wyoming. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like, whoa, wait, they're in Boston. And then that's when he gets out the map and starts drinking. He's looking at so far away. His brother's in Wyoming missing. And he's been paying off the radio operator with like cigarettes and bootleg pills to like radio Wyoming. Like like like like. One guy radios

another and they do this sort of thing all the way to Wyoming to find out where Pedro's brother is. Haven't heard from him in three weeks and the guy's like, you don't want to go out there. There are worse things than Fedra. There's slavers, cannibals, and he's like, that's why I've got to go.

You sound like the doc from Back to the Future when you did that. You don't want to go out there money there's nothing for you in wyoming i'm gonna eat your money i'm gonna eat your asshole there's only chances to go back in time stop the fungus at the beginning god i hope that's where this is all leading so um but but there's i like the scene where he's he's sort of drinking his whiskey while he uses his finger to draw the trip to Wyoming from Boston. And then the little girl comes into it because she's got her own little secret thing. And I was worried about the little girl.

That was my concern. Because children can ruin fucking shows. Yeah, they can be rough actors. Yeah, and she has a lot to live up to because we loved her in Game of thrones she's so fucking good in game of thrones um and it was it was everybody loved her it was shocking that such a young tiny child actress was so commanding and funny and like i just remember when like they had that moment where like john and uh um his sister and and little lady m Mormont meet with the Bolton crew

and she's just sitting there over there like like mean mugging Ramsey Bolton like with her meanest look ever she is good I wasn't annoyed at all is she young? you said you were worried about child actors

I have no idea how old the girl is in real life but the the character is supposed to be 14 and i thought she looks 14 to me she's got an odd face i'll say i don't want to be mean or anything because it is a little kid like like it's hard to gauge her age uh but but i like her a lot um i like pedra a lot and everything. And when Pedro's got some sort of girlfriend-type female companion who's along for the ride, she didn't get fleshed out much. I'm hoping to find out more from her. But she's a solid badass.

There's a scene where they're trying to get a car battery, and she's been beaten severely by the car battery salesman, and he's afraid to let her go now. He's like, if I let you go, you're going to tell Pedro, and he's afraid to let her go now he's like if i let you go you're gonna tell pedro and he's gonna come for me and she's like i'm not gonna she's like i'm not gonna tell pedro i'm not i always want to go home and drink till my face stops hurting all right and she lets him long story short she lets him go he lets her go she gets home she's like he's afraid you're gonna hurt him so i want you to hurt him real So I want you to hurt him real bad.

I want you to kill him, Pedro. Fuck him up. But don't get cocky halfway through like that mountain nonsense. Exactly. That's exactly what you said. So, yeah, I really dug it. I liked that it was long enough to get the story fully going in one episode. It was about 82 minutes or something. I saw that episode three is about the same. I don't know how long episode two is.

I didn't look into that. But yeah, good, great new show. I hope there are lots of episodes. I hope it's not six or eight episodes. That'll be a bummer. I hope it's at least 10 or 12. And it's a miniseries, not like a TV show, right? No, this was a TV show. This is going not like a a tv show right did there no this was a tv show this is gonna be a block this is gonna be a massive tv show this will go season after season i hope so

i mean i i really like that guy pedro pascal as an actor he's good he's got he's got the mandalorian where he runs around with the little little green guy and he's got this show where he's gonna run around that little white guy it It's great. And the red forever. I loved him in Game of Thrones. I haven't liked him since. I haven't seen him play a character that requires that. The guy wears a mask. They could put me in there and no one would notice

for four episodes in The Mandalorian this is. Well, I didn't watch The Mandalorian. And if he's wearing a mask in every episode, yeah, I mean, that's not going to be his biggest... It's like this Mandalorian code that you don if he's wearing a mask in every episode, like, yeah, I mean, that's not going to be his biggest, like it's like this Mandalorian code that you don't remove it. Now he does on occasion, but,

uh, yeah. So because of that, like there's hardly any acting involved. I don't even know if it's him in there. Let's give a fair retort. Kyle, did he kill it in the Mandalorian?

He kills it so hard in the Mandalorian. You think so? He kills it so fucking hard. And then when he takes his mask off, it's so emotional when he's uh it's he's all he's like like the he's dying but he won't let him take the mask off to like help him and he's like go leave me and the robot stays behind the robot tries to take his mask off and he's like gonna kill the robot if he tries anymore and he's like like, I'm a fucking robot, dude. And the Mandalorian's finally like, that's a good point.

I mean, it's kind of like taking my helmet off in front of my ship. Now he's more of a Cholo Mandalorian. More of a Cholo Mandalorian. Yeah, which would be cooler, you know? He takes his mask off and he's like, man, that thing is being stuffy as hell. I can't believe he has it still. dude phil burke kills it in that he has two episodes that are like where he steals the show and makes them his and he is a good actor uh in this like he's very good he plays a guy who's like a pistol

wielding like gunslinger he's got one in each hand and a third mechanical arm attached to a backpack that comes up that also has a pistol so he'll be like shooting and then the third one comes out and starts shooting too and it's comical and then he's got uh you talking about bill burr with better or uh his acting like it was funny watching it Bad, like his first scenes where he was just Bill Burr. And then like he kind of becomes more that character of Kubi as it goes on. And like I realized I was watching Better Call Saul. I don't recall seeing, you know, Bill is like a big part of that show or anything. But like if you know, like the old ONA show, there was another comedian named Joe DeRosa that used to be on the ONA show

with Bill Burr, like not nearly as often. And Bill Burr recommended that guy, I guess, to the better call Saul, Vince Gilligan. And he killed it even bigger than Joe, you know,

the vet, the veterinarian. That's Joe DeRosa. He's a comedian. And every scene he's in, I'm like, so I'm like, who's that killing this?

Like, he's great in this and so i that makes me happy like when i see somebody doing something else and it's like damn like you're you're really genuinely very good at this from from like um um oh what's that it was the couple with with him and the blonde in the city the sitcom paul reisner's got the curly hair yeah helen hunt yeah it was called mad about you mad about yeah yeah good thank you wow that's from blast from the past man that's a different that's a different world man we were on top then in the pre-cell phone man we were on top this is before this is before 9-11 this was good times mad about you anyway paul reisner is that isn't he the one

playing that disgusting, creepy former movie producer in The Boys? Like constantly bragging about all the actresses he fucked and the actors that fucked him and all that crazy shit? Is it Reisner or Reiser? Reiser, yeah. Okay. I think, is he the guy in The Sopranos who kills himself

by jumping off the bridge? No, no, no, no. That's a different actor. That's the dad from Home Alone. Oh, you're right. They have a similar jowl. Oh. Yeah.

That white man jowl. Mm-hmm. Well, more of an elderly, overweight actor jowl. You know how only black men get that roll of fat in the back of their head? What's that about? Not here in the Midwest. Really? Yeah. Everybody's fat here. roll of fat in the back of their head what's that i'm not here in the midwest really but it seems like like i remember being at a sizzler when i was like nine and uh and i wanted to be a big boy

and get a steak and we're like going through the line or whatever it wasn't a sizzler it was uh ryan's it was ryan's yeah hated ryan's and uh they got a buffet there though and uh and yeah always fucking ryan's hated that shit and i just remember seeing that not a steak buffet you they hated Ryan's. They got a buffet there, though. Always fucking Ryan's. I just remember seeing that. Not a steak buffet. He ordered the fucking steak for the house. You know that's not a fucking steak buffet. I know.

Don't you talk shit. Ryan's Family Restaurant. That's the name, by the way. They had to establish that. Now Kyle is defending this place. It's where my childhood was 30 seconds ago family restaurant it's one of those places where there's a poor guy over there like like cutting up sausages and offering you links of them like awkwardly yeah uh but i just remember

see for that was the first time i ever saw a black man with that big roll of fat in the back of his head and i couldn't like you know when you look at like an optical illusion like like there's that one that you don't know if it's a woman's crotch or a lamp yeah something about looking at that roll on the back of that black man's head it was like is his whole head like a puddle or something like like i was just like it was like a 2d 3d thing like i stared too long. And I was nine. You got to remember. So I thought he was like a beetle man or something. I didn't know what I had seen. It reminded me of, remember the TV show, The Dinosaurs,

where they had just people in suits being dinosaurs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sea slacks or something. No, no. They were dinosaurs. I think it was called Dinosaurs, yeah. Not the mama, not the mama. You remember that shit.

Oh, okay. I do. Yeah. That's another blast in the past the people how many of y'all listening to this know what the fuck i mean when i say not the mama not the mama there's no way that anyone younger than me knows what that is that dinosaur had a diaper on yeah i'm the absolute baby dinosaur i'm aware but i'm pretty sure that it's not historically accurate no they lived in a house he he had a lunch box like what i think it was it was a they lived in a tree house the idea was that the

dinosaurs were more evolved than we thought they had a society and then at the end it's kind of dark because this is a very light-hearted comedy like family kind of thing with like again people in like dinosaur suits and puppets and shit. It ends with the meteor. In fact, that's how the show ends. I didn't know that. It's dark. It's been years since I've seen it, but I remember it being like, fuck, that's how y'all wrapped

it up? The whole family and the whole species? Do you remember what that show was called? The Dinosaurs. Yeah. I remember watching it like if it was on just for like a seconds at a time because it unsettled me the way the mouths never moved even vaguely in concert with any words coming out how clunky and ugly everything was i hated it yeah i i liked it um i i thought the baby was very funny um i also watched a lot of like martin you know the steve martin uh show like like that show uh i don't know like like i watched a ton of that black comedy for whatever reason i've talked about it before but like

living single with queen latifah i've seen so much living single with queen latifah i like i don't know how old i don't know how old i was when i realized i should stop watching channel 62 that it wasn't for me living single kind of world i'm glad i've got my girls and i I was like, wait, shit. This is for me. This is doubly not for me. This is for sassy young black men and women who are getting around town. But Kyle's just dancing, eight years old, 1994, just loving. Yeah, I'm like 10 or 12 watching that shit. I thought it was funny. It was funny.

Queen Latifah's all right. I remember only watching BET if like i happened past it on the way to somewhere else and they were playing fresh prince because everyone's fresh prince would be on there fresh prince is solid like there's been um i can go back to some clip clips of fresh prince that and i could show you some clips that would make you emotional there's some sad ones there's one where will's dad comes back into his life, but it's just a fucking scam. And then he's like, yeah, well, we're going on a big trip together. We're going to do this, that and the other.

And it doesn't exactly work out the way that he thought it was. And he's just leaving. He's just he's just disappearing again. And Uncle Phil is like, where are you going? What about the big trip with Will? He's on the way up here. It's like, ah, it's not going to work out. You'll let him know it didn't work out's not gonna work out you you'll let him know it didn't work out for me though right you let him know it didn't work out yeah i'll let him know he'll understand well don't be like that now don't act like i did something wrong here and

he's like you get out of here you piece of shit like like talks him down with his uncle phil voice yeah then like will smith comes in i was like he's like where's my dad yo and it's like he left will he left you again and he's like why don't he want me he's like crying why does my dad want me it's fucking sad he's like hugging uncle phil it's it's it's rough it's funny it's like at like as a child watching those episodes like the emotional ones, I'd be like, oh, that wasn't funny at all. Like, why isn't he pranking Carlton more? I liked that they recast Aunt Viv. Yeah, I was in a different spot for that scene.

So I had watched Will Smith talk about his acting. And basically, he didn't know how to act. He didn't have any acting courses. And they were just like, you're doing great. You're like a blind man who's walking in the right direction already. We have no corrections for you. And I thought that analogy was interesting. Anyway, in the scene Kyle talked about it, where his father left him and how sad he was.

I'm like, this guy is killing it as an actor. He's very good. So I think it's okay that he slapped Will or Chris Rock. I don't give a shit who he slaps i look we're all i don't know why chris rock is i i prefer chris rock to bull smith yeah but but but i don't have to pick one or the other like like no i'm saying if there were battle lines being drawn and it was like you know you have to pick i would ride it on for chris rock over i'm on team here's how it works though here's how it works though

one of the armies so either you oh one of them's entire career like doesn't exist anymore will smith or chris rock oh now that's tougher because will chris chris rock has never made a good movie he's made he made a bunch of shitty cash jobs like like and then like he did that season of um fargo that i didn't watch and and then he did a bunch of adam sandler movies that were all cash grabs i mean he's made hundreds of millions of dollars acting poorly yeah who i mean yeah you're right there in new jack city was that chris rock i haven't seen New Jack City. I've only seen clips. That's the one with

Wesley Snipes, right? Where he's like, sit your $5 ass down before I make change. This movie sounds awesome already. I want to watch this. And it is Chris Rock. When he says it, he's wearing a beret and a gold chain the absolute chasm in movie knowledge between kyle and myself is hilarious

like just no obscure things and then i'll be like i've seen some of titanic i have not i have not finished the film i've watched studies on whether they both could have fit on that goddamn door, and I don't even like the movie. They probably have a yes or a no. It's a no. It's a no. Yeah, I think so, too. He did the right thing.

He didn't have that much volume. That chubby bitch. Look, look. Was she chubby? She was, look, in a good way, though. They would have skipped dinner. They could have both survived. She was a very sexy lady in that film.

I masturbated to those titties many a time, many a time. And I used to think how if I had been Leo, I would have fucked her again and then stolen the necklace. I heard that when she heard that she was going to be naked in front of Leonardo DiCaprio, she flashed him as soon as she met him to get it out of the way and break the ice.

Nice. I would go to HR fucking immediately and make a stand. They'd have a hotter actress in there the next week. Human Resources, she only shows me her top. And have a hotter actress in there the next week. Human resources, she only shows me her top. And when the hot actress gets there,

she'll show her tits to me when I tell her to. Yeah. And she's not going to be a day over 24. Sigma male handles that situation. Yeah. You go to HR immediately. Her chubby ass is gone.

Now we get like fucking Angelina Jolie or somebody. No, get that giant redhead with the huge cans. I bet Titanic times she'd have been quite young. She'd have been 20 or something. Smoking in 1990. There's melons.

I want to punch them and see what it feels like. Hard. Just hard. I want a good hook so francis francis and gano the heavyweight champion of the ufc taylor left it's been two years since he's fought um he's like 37 38 no no he's at he doesn't want to like sign a new contract with the ufc so dana white is has released him and they're loud yeah pretty pretty much it's what that's dana's side of the story francis wants to go box the UFC. So Dana White has released him. Pretty much that's Dana's side of the story.

Francis wants to go box, one of the top boxers in the world. He thinks he's going to make a lot of money there and maybe not get hurt, I would imagine. Because the alternative is fighting Jon Jones, who has literally spent the last two years getting big enough to beat him up. And so you think a bit of this is Ngannou afraid,

doesn't want to come back and get wrecked by Jon Jones? It sounds crazy to say that that guy... Zach, could you show us a picture of Francis Ngannou? I just probably shouldn't say that that man's afraid, but I will say that everybody else is saying that he's afraid of Jon Jones. Really? Everybody's saying it.

And Jon Jones is saying it. Stipe afraid of john jones everybody's saying it and uh john jones is saying it um steve pay saying it dana white saying it um and uh and uh maybe he is maybe like legacy wise he's afraid i don't think he fears any man in that kind of way but i could imagine him being afraid of losing that part of his legacy i mean i just look at the opposite dc's daniel cormier for those who are casual says that no one is afraid of each other in the UFC they're all professional fighters and it's cool

Dana White says Dana White says that Ngannou just doesn't want to fight hard people and in the UFC there's no hiding right if you're a top level guy you fight another top level guy yeah he's 6 four i just saw the guy's so strong and so look at that arm look at that that cannot be a natural human arm how

barefoot i i yeah i he's so strong he hits so hard he's a very good fighter now too his wrestling skills have become good he's he's a really really tough guy really scary guy so is john jones i don't even know who i think is gonna win they're both rusty as fuck they haven't fought since i was young but uh dana white is saying kind of that he's scared and that the reason he's leaving the is he wants to fight easier competition for big money while in the ufc only fight hard fights cool um and ganu came out and said that he had these demands for all the fighters that everyone should have access to a fighter representative and sponsors did you see that i thought maybe you'd seen that too uh if he's fuck him if he said that go suck a dick go

go start your own fucking league and give give them all that representation once you pay their help bills too you dumb fuck that was part of it't you pay their health bills too, you dumb fuck? Go back to Assault Mine. Go back to Assault Mine, you piece of shit. Nobody's going to pay to watch you fight Anthony Joshua. You can't even pronounce the man's goddamn name. You think Tyson Fury's going to fight you in four-ounce gloves? He'll piece you up with real gloves, you piece of shit. You dumb hick.

Get your four-ounce gloves and then go in there and smash. They're going to make you the richest heavyweight of all time. They're going to give you Brock Lesnar teeth money, okay? You ever see Brock Lesnar teeth money. You ever see Brock Lesnar's teeth? Yes. Oh my gosh. They were going to give him so goddamn much money. He's running like a bitch. He won't even go to Bellator.

He won't go to PFL. It was funny to see his Meemaw wearing that PFL shirt like he was going to go there. I never thought he'd go there. Of course, he wants to put on some fucking pussy gloves and go fight with somebody kind of fight he wants to do half a fight somewhere else and make twice the money that should have been dana white's uh line he wants to do half the fight and make twice the money and he wants to do it somewhere else no we mean they're all there

i was i was giving that was mad the picture's only okay I saw a close up of the picture And I saw it on Reddit And a dentist replied what happened Oh that's a great picture I guess it's Grinding combined with like Chewing tobacco And what you're seeing

I thought I was seeing The root of the gum What I'm actually seeing is teeth with no enamel coated in tobacco juice. Well, they're hollow. They're all hollow and full of like junk. So, I'm not afraid of Brock Lesnar at all now.

Because he comes at me, I'll shove a jelly donut in his mouth. You know what it's going to feel like when you bite down, Chief? A little sugar in there? I don't think so. You're done. You're just going to rile him up. Do you think it hurts to eat sugar with those teeth? I think if he're just gonna rile them up oh wait you think it hurts to eat sugar with those two i think i think if he tried to eat ice cream he'd cry like a bitch that's the move i think you give him something very cold yeah those are ice cream

teeth yeah i bet it i let's have a fucking ice eating contest you big bitch oh my god is it worth like a hundred million dollars or something like yeah get it get it those are the new ones dude nhl players get all of their teeth knocked out regularly and then replaced like before the next game sometimes if they're one of the more vain players like and he can't get that taken care of ridiculous you've heard him speak before right i may not have i i don't. He's a real straightforward, no bullshit. I know he's like an Iowa country guy. He's that guy. He's living on a farm, no bullshit, fucking drink a Coors Light,

because Bud Light don't want to pay me no money. A frosty, cold, mountain, rocky, top Coors Light. That was so funny. He's winning me back from his teeth. He's had some good moments now. But anyway, Ngannou turned down all that money. I don't give a shit. I never...

Look, Ngannou was a wrecking ball, and it was fun to watch him wreck people. It always is. But I don't miss him, and i don't care i'm just glad that it's moving on and that we're getting going again you're different i often fall to this like all right you might have been the baddest man on the planet in 20 in 2019 i'll say right like you you were the tops scary scary scary and then you haven't fought for three years i'm taking that title away from you you are the 2019 world champion

in the same way that like the eagles are but that doesn't mean they're still the best you haven't played this game for oh i wish someone would use that you would use that line like like like if we use though if we they should say if we use those rules then then then the patriots are the are the super bowl champions but they're not. But they're not. We've had a lot of games since then. Things move on. That's how I feel about Bob Lester. And I worry about Jon Jones.

What is he going to bring when he comes back? He might still be the Patriots of old. We'll find out. It's no slam dunk to me. Well, he has to fight Cyril Ghosn, right? And it didn't go well for him last year. It's gone.

And Ghosn got fucked up by Taya Tuivasa a while back. So that made me think a lot less of Ghosn. When I saw that, I watched that fight, and I was thinking, like, damn, how the mighty have fallen. He went from almost beating Jon Jones and being the light heavyweight champ to, like, losing to the chubby guy from Australia or New Zealand or whatever. Like, damn.

But apparently, sure, you can have a title shot. Let's throw you in there against Jon Jones for the undisputed heavyweight title of the world. And they're going to do it in March. And Jon Jones has been working out. It's like he's been doing a Rocky montage for three fucking years or something like that, dude. Every time you look at his Instagram,

it's heavy leg compound motion. He's just bulking. I still have better calves than John Jones. He's fending fucking bars over there. They're probably not stronger, but they're definitely bigger looking. To clarify about this in ghanu fella so you said he wants to fight tyson fury yeah boxing and just looking at you know and

i've looked at his wikipedia page before because he's come up on the show tyson fury's like six foot nine six foot ten and has fought people larger significantly significantly larger than Ngannou, and almost killed them. Like, what is Ngannou's... There couldn't possibly be a reason other than a big bag, right? Because even he couldn't possibly think he has a shot against this dude. He's one of the more powerful men on the planet, Ngannou is. And if they weren't in the gut...

See, there is some discussion about what the bout would be. Would it be in a boxing ring? Would it be in a cage? What size gloves? Now, if they use those UFC gloves, those itty-bitty 4-ounce UFC gloves, I don't know anything about Tyson Fury's boxing and what he does as a boxer, but I do know that it's a lot. There's not as much defensive boxing with four-ounce gloves,

or at least it's not as easy as it is with 16-ounce gloves because you don't have those big pillows to parry with. If Ngannou touched him, you know, I mean, Stipe Miocic is a big motherfucker who was the champion of the world, and then Ngannou hit him. And then it was like, oh, that's right, you're a white guy. And he was splattered across the goddamn floor looking like he'd seen death.

The look on Stipe's face frightened me. I mean, this guy, I mean, I don't know. You don't just challenge someone. I'm just looking through Nganu's record of the people he's fought. This is a guy who it seems like a like a very rare rare rare occasion has ever fought someone larger than him or with a longer reach from what i can tell he's never ever fought someone in which he didn't have a reach advantage and he wouldn't have a reach advantage and he'd be six

inches shorter yeah nobody thinks he could nobody thinks he's beating this guy and but then like how much more money would he make from this boxing event than just going back to the uf nobody knows nobody because he couldn't possibly get like pieced up and embarrassed by Tyson Fury and then be like, I'm back to the UFC now guys. Could he? Yeah, he could.

Oh, maybe he could. Yeah. One of the things about boxing is I feel like the boxers lie about their purse. At least that's what some people say, right? So when they're like,

I made a hundred million, I made $125 million off this fight. It's like rappers. Being rich is part of their identity, and they're just kind of pumping it up. But if you saw the real numbers, they weren't that. Or it could be Dana White telling me that they're not really making that much money. Trust me, I'm paying you better than Tyson Fury is earning. You're actually the rich one.

He's just lying, which is what Dana White would want you to think. So I don't know what the truth is. Yeah. I don't know what they get paid. I know that boxers of old were paid incredibly well. When you look at Tyson and guys of that era, if you were heavyweight champion of the world, what did he blow?

Hundreds of millions of dollars. He was taking a huge cut to Don King, right? That's where I was headed. I don't know how much Tyson got. Don King took it all. I don't know how much freaking Fury gets. Is he

keeping all his money? Does he have a Don King? I don't think there are any modern Don Kings, or at least not... Well, there's Dana White. I wish he had a big wig like that. I look forward to the division moving on. Dana White with a Don King wig

is a great idea. Great Halloween. I hope he does that for Halloween. That would be funny.face of course oh that would get the slap right out of the fucking news what would actually happen is people would be like guys we have to get serious about dana white now i mean slapping people in public is dime a dozen but racism we cannot allow don king's still alive 91 years old good wasn't his i don't he just like basically was kind of a con artist and like fucked with boxers stole money from mike tyson it's a fight promoter right um yeah he was like he was he was always uh sort of a middleman uh dealing with the marketing and the promotion of

the fights and i guess he stole quite a bit of money from a lot of fighters or at least that's what it seems like yeah yeah there's like 17 different fighters in his wikipedia with all of their grievances and like he's a piece of shit and i mean there's no way all these people joined his squad at the same time they didn't like talk to the previous boxers come on guys i guess they weren't your yelp reviews back then like don't use this guy he stole 30 million dollars from me it i don't know everyone knew he was bad and then all the top names still went with him oh did you did you see that video i sent on whatsapp of toby watching the wolf on tv yes i i found youtube videos that are in like high uh high frames per second because

dogs need 80 something frames to be able to to see smooth video something about the way their vision works and so i found those videos and it's just it's just animals sitting there like yawning in the snow and stuff and he's sitting there like wagging his tail, watching the wolf for like an hour at a time. Like he spends an hour at least every day just sitting there watching his wolf pal on TV. Great. That's so funny. Yeah, just me and my friend hanging out. He's so fucking big now.

He's the biggest dog here now. He's bigger than the Malamute. He's five months old. Five and a half months old. And he's like 50-something, 60-something pounds, I guess. I don't know. He's big. He's got more to go because he's still got those younger dog legs

where you're like, there's a good bit of catching up to do in his torso. Yeah, he's so tall. Yeah. Do you like him big? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine like like he's he's just floofy he's like like when i brush him out he's just so floofy i haven't gotten him groomed yet like so he's just yeah it looks like he's wearing it looks like he's wearing pants like like his legs are so poofy and like like everywhere is he's he's got like a giant cattle

dog head yeah in my house, we do this thing called the squish-em, which is basically just laying on someone and giving them all your body weight. I do it to Jackie. I do it to Colin. And I like that I can do it to my dogs. Yeah. Your dogs are fine with that. They probably don't even always

look up. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I know I'm basically a small horse in this house. You can do this if you feel so inclined. Call it a wrap? Yeah. See you guys in a couple days. Hope the PC's all good.

I hope I use it in a couple days. Time to mess with this webcam. Good luck with that. Schmutzed off. PKA 439.