Painkiller Already - PKN 456

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

pkn 456 what's up boys how was your weekend good weather here's shitty it's pouring rain dogs are terrified they're just right now trembling oh yeah yeah oh that's interesting usually our weather's the same but not today yes been like scattered pretty heavy showers for maybe an hour now um what do you want to talk about i i was just telling you what i wanted to talk about and we decided we talked about the wing stuff on pka maybe yeah everything let's save that cool shit you said some great ukraine stuff um they shot down so is there a winner yet yeah um the united states uh we sent um we're sending those patriot missile batteries right the anti-air missile batteries they shoot down just about anything in the air.

I remember when I was seven, I think. Gulf War one. The first time we went after Saddam for invading Kuwait, my mother explaining it to me because I was a little afraid after listening to the newscast. She said, the Iraqis are the bad guys and they shoot these missiles called Scuds. We're the good guys and we shoot missiles called

Patriots. They shoot the Scuds down. It's okay. Missiles can't hurt the good guys and we shoot missiles called patriots and they shoot the scuds down so it's okay that missiles can't hurt hurt the good guys and i was like oh good good well it turned out that was horse shit because the patriot missile system didn't work at all it was terrible in the first gulf war it missed everything lied to us mother lie happy i didn't even i still hold that against her well it's been 30 years, Taylor. And now the Patriot missile system is the finest anti-missile system in the world. They shot, I think, either four or six of those hypersonic missiles down last night and one ago. They shot down. They pulled a little bit of a vermintide.

Oh, it's released. We've got the rockets. No, no. 30 years later. Absolutely functional. There's a related thing. And I just want to insert it because i'm not sure you know four russian aircraft i think two fighter jets and two helicopters but

i could be a little off on that was shot down over either russian or ukrainian controlled territory and i've heard different things i've heard heard that the Russian anti-aircraft system shot down their own aircraft, which is possible, and then I've heard that it's these things called man pads, which unbeknownst to me have nothing to do with trans men menstruating. It turns out man pads are like a shoulder-mounted anti-aircraft javelin type thing,

and one of those took down the Russians. I don't know what, but they had terrible losses. I watched Philip DeFranco's little shorts, and I saw one of those where he said the U.S. had deployed a new system that they have over there. Well, the Ukrainians have deployed our new system over there where it's a missile that gives off the radar signature and the electronic signature of whatever you want.

So if you want the enemy to think there's like a B-52 heading in, oh shit, sir! And I was like, man, that's cool. That's like some Star Trek stuff. Every now and then they throw up they didn't do this often in Star Trek, but every now and then they throw up some

holograms. You're not going to believe this. 30 Japanese Zeros heading down on us now. But in Star Trek, they'll be like, throw up the hologram of the warships, Mr. Worf. They don't do that much because

it'd kind of break the whole fucking thing. You can't do it often or they'd know it was holograms, right? But the enemy would be like, oh shit, they've got extra ships, let's leave. And they're fakes. But this is more of a distraction thing than a fear thing, I guess. It's meant to get the enemy anti-air stuff to shoot at it

and confuse it and allow their other missiles and rockets to hit. Because I think they were shooting, it was either of those aircraft you're talking about or it was some stuff behind Russian lines. Because the other thing, they're unlocking new DLC every week in Ukraine. They just got those missiles from the UK,

their cruise missiles. Storm Shadow, does that sound right? How close am I? Yeah, something like that. Something fucking cool. It used to be called the the rg39a and now they're like that's not gonna sell boys they're not gonna be able to read that on the bbc let's call it the storm shadow oh mike that's why you're here that is a better name but i saw i saw the russians pulling chunks of like uh machined metal out of the

wreckage and it's like laser engraved storm shadow use only or something and it's like ah so are the battle lines moving much more or still yeah the same back and forth there was a big breakthrough a few days ago maybe a week ago now maybe five six seven days ago but they moved in like a kilometer and a half two kilometers and like 600 meters wide or something who's they the russians the ukrainians the ukrainians the russians back um the the wagner guy um they've also got the infighting between their private military and their wait can we go back to the land because i have much different numbers like i think they they took back something like five square kilometers then 17 square kilometers then like 25 square kilometers you're talking about square kilometers i don't even know what those look like i follow but there

what's what's important is that they're imagine squares people surrounding baklut right so like baklut was really hard to take in the first place yeah this is the way that it goes the russians fight super hard to get like a hundred meters in bakhmut every day for nine months or something insane like that as soon as they get those hundred meters the ukrainians leave and they demolish the building that was so helpful in holding it and this happens again and again. Oftentimes, that building is demolished after the Russians occupy it. They're like, oh, now this high rise is mine. And where you got the advantage? Building comes tumbling down. So on the way back, this land is easier to take because it's just rubble and bullshit. Baku is wrecked, but it's easy to get it back.

Man, they're going to need some building contracts in a few years, I bet. Somebody's going to have to help them. The U.S. having building contracts for countries to get destroyed? I don't know about that. Somebody call Hal Burton. Maybe they can help here. I don't know if they've thought of this before. I don't know if they've thought about intentionally destroying countries and then being paid to build them back.

If you're a young man in trade school, you want to be looking at this this global event here as an opportunity is all i'm saying there's a lot of shit to be built one place commercial real estate isn't dead it's just maybe there i don't know actually no those that won't come back commercial real estate like do you guys know people in commercial real estate like who like that's their line of work because i do know a few and they are all terrified like there's reading about it a lot but i don't know anybody so i like to get on the internet and and look at commercial real estate and uh and exchange rates too and like other countries like how strong the dollar is and like what could you buy in a country i've never heard before? And I was looking at these commercial real estate spaces in,

fuck, was I in Bolivia or I was somewhere like that, somewhere mildly tropical and fun to be. And they're like $400. They're like $400 a month for this big space. Like you can throw a restaurant out. Like, like the,

I don't know how that works. Yeah. Maybe they're scamming me and they're going to kidnap me when I show up with $1,400. I'm interested in talking about commercial real estate. But Ukraine is going for the Ukrainians. They have this counteroffensive. It seems like it's launched. The expectations were super duper high

because in the fall they launched a counteroffensive and took something like 1500 square kilometers if that's not right it's close there's a lot so um and it just like really moved the battle lines in a significant way now they're like well here comes we're gonna do it again and the ukrainians are like whoa whoa whoa not every counter offensive gets a fucking 20 of a whole country you know this is hard to do but it looks like they're pushing around. Oh, and Kyle made reference to the Wagner Group and the Russian military proper infighting, and that's really significant too. One, they literally fight. There was gunfights in between the Russians and the Russians.

Now intelligence has been leaked that the Wagner group would give away the positions of the Russians if the Ukrainians would give up Bakhmut. And this is the kind of like I talked before, call it two months ago. I was like, it's interesting. The Russians have kind of a competitive. It was kind of a capitalism going on in between different parts of their army. So whichever part of the army is the most successful gets the spoils. Maybe this is... Sometimes companies are organized this way. Like, alright, we've got two companies.

They both make office chairs. Instead of having them cooperate, we make them duke it out. That way each one of them is lean and mean as they can be. And I was like, it sounds stupid, but maybe it's not. I don't know. What do I know about running armies? Now, looking back, it is not working.

They're shooting each other. They're sabotaging each other. It is a problem. You need all your armies on the same team. Yeah. The better corporate comparison there would be like, well, we tried to incentivize the sales team, and they bombed accounting. Like, fuck. This is ruining everything. It's like, guys, we need you to be competitive accounting like fuck like this is ruining everything it's like guys we

need you to be competitive but not like this like don't fire bomb the homes like i bet taylor has expertise in this like tell me there aren't companies that own more than one brand of soap that just straight up compete with each other and try to be the best procter and gamble is like hey bounce team tide team try to win. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, aren't we capitalizing each other's sales? Why are we duplicate? But there's no negative. My guess would be they're going for different

tiers in the market, right? And different segments of the population. There's a laundry detergent for men and one for women. And they do the same shit. But I won't use the women one. What I will do is use those ladies' razors because those make my butthole smooth well they like it's the same company but like i'm pretty sure like tide bounce and cheer are all the same company but like cheer just focuses on color bounce focuses on texture and tide focuses on color so that they're all talking

about a different thing or wait cheers color tide is cleanliness or something they all focus on a different silo within that in order to create differentiation stain removal because you can imagine yeah stain removal i think cheer is color and bounce is like it's soft or some shit yeah i mean the point is something to do with teddy bears i'm sure of it. Yes. Snuggle. That's snuggle. But you're right. That's snuggle. Interesting. But anyway, yeah. So Russians run their armies like we run soap companies.

And it turns out that's a bad idea. Also, they're not sharing tactics. It's too competitive. I talked about this. Oh, it blew me away. So the Russians will drive their tanks in on a road. And now we know that road is clear, right? That road doesn't have landmines on it.

We just drove. Well, it turns out we can plant landmines with artillery shelves. There's like six or nine landmines in there. And they just blow up at like 200 feet in the air and mine the area. I always thought mines involved dudes with shovels just sort of burying them in secret. No, they can do that remotely with big guns. So you can blow up mines into position like yes they're airdropping they're dropping landmines yeah the tanks get close they hit the tanks with

artillery and any tanks they miss hit the mines on the way out that weren't there on the way in because like artillery is dropping i didn't notice that some of those were behind us. They were mines. I thought it was inaccurate fire. That would fool me too. I didn't know that's how mines worked. Right. So, but anyway,

this happens. And now this group of Russians knows about that tactic and maybe they want to escape in a different way, but they don't tell everyone else. They're like, fuck you. You can figure that out on your own. We are competing with each other.

Would a spider style tank avoid, They're like, fuck you. You can figure that out on your own. We are competing with each other. Would a spider-style tank avoid mines in a way that treads couldn't? You're touching less of the ground. Sensitive spider feet, that kind of thing.

There has to be something we can learn from the... Perhaps an AT-AT. An AT-AT, yes. That's what we need. Well, not those. Those would be hitting we can learn from the flamingo. Perhaps an AT-AT. Yes. An AT-AT, yes. That's what we need. Well, not those. Those have big fucking... Those would be hitting all the time. Those have four feet.

I'm still stuck with my flamingo tag. It is four. You're right. I imagine two. Okay, there's a different one, though. It's the AT-ST. Is that what that is called? Is that what that is called?

That's the only thing I know about Star Wars is because it was the coolest thing I ever saw in Star Wars. Look at this CGI nonsense. This was like, is that a COD? That sucks. That's very mineable. know about Star Wars is because it was the coolest thing I ever saw on Star Wars. Look at this CGI nonsense. This was like, is that a COD? That sucks. That's very minimal. Probably is COD, right? Battlefield or something?

Transformers? It does look like it's out of a video game. Call of Duty. That's stupid. We're already so far in the future. It goes straight to some sort of hovering. We already have the technology to make smaller things hover. Well, these things are so heavy, Taylor.

They weigh like 60 tons. Just 50 years ago, flight was imaginary. And now, look at us. I need to check your math. I think 50 years ago, we were like on the moon. Just 20 years ago,

highways and these things. 35 years ago, Taylor wasn't real. Yes, that's true. I didn't know what the Patriot and the S-300 missile systems looked like, so I looked. And on the inside, it's such a difference. The Americans are in like a little miniature land center

that's attached to the battery. Like they're indoors in this self-contained module with computer screens. And they have readouts on them that... Help me understand. On a Patriot missile, there's people inside a room? Yeah, yeah. with computer screens. And they have readouts on them that... Help me understand. On a Patriot missile, there's people inside a room? Yeah, yeah.

They're operating it. The same with the Russian. I don't know what the outside of it looks like, but they showed the control panel of a Patriot missile system, and there were two seats side-by-side and two computer monitors, and it looked a little bit like the old Space Defender game. There was a lot of inputs and a lot of lines and stuff. And then they showed the Russian version.

And it's this little room full of buttons and switches and knobs. I'm not exaggerating when I say there's 300 buttons and switches and knobs. You know how you see an aircraft? That's the American system. Damn. Oh, wait, wait an aircraft? That's the American system. Damn. Wait, hang on a minute.

That actually looks old. The middle looks old and the sides look new. I said that was the American system because that readout on the panel looked very... It looked exactly more or less like what I saw. It's an English keyboard, isn't it? I bet they give those boys some new keyboards, man,

when we send them their versions. Oh, I thought you meant... So they're not doing this from America? They're not controlling this from... No, that thing's on the ground. In fact, a lot of those missiles that are coming in, apparently, are targeting those systems. Rather than try to hit a building in the city,

try to hit the system that's killing all your missiles. And so at one point, as a last resort, what that system will do, if it's being targeted city try to hit the system that's killing all your missiles and so at one point as a last resort what that system will do if it's being targeted and targeted and the and the uh the projectile's close it just launches everything so uh yeah they showed video last night of ukraine a little mini samson option i think they shot like every how many was it it was like twice a second for two or three minutes and then at one point it's like, you know sometimes at a fireworks show they'll fuck up and everything

go off at once. That happened at one point. It was awesome. It was like joop, joop, joop, and then out of nowhere, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, joop, jo they weren't attacking us i'm so sorry my favorite true thing is that they actually like value people's video game skills to pilot the uavs like i i i know the end to had that job i don't know if you guys remember the end in the very early days he was like maybe friends or frenemies with hutch and blame truth and and he was very good to join the navy flew uavs and apparently he was a superstar i would just love to see like a military military commander who is uh sandy ravage we need this guy and you know what's going to be crazy is like the best gamers of of that generation aren't going to be able to keep up with the zero attention span, like growing up on three iPad future UAV pilots who are going to be

unbelievably good. There'll be like this guy, look at this boomer. He can only do one at once. You're not going to be like, like just the eyes on different things. It's like, yeah,

look at it. Dude, don't, don't bring a woman into the room when he's working. Like he's, he's a genius, the room when he's working. He's a genius, but he can't deal with that. Don't tell cartoon women, what is wrong with you? The Russians figured out his biggest weakness, catfishing.

Oh, and then I was going to say, the readout on the Russian, so that's this readout we just saw. I couldn't really see it too well, but I'm guessing that when a little blip comes on that computer screen, maybe next to it, it says what it might be, what it probably is. Maybe some, some little readout.

Oh, this is enemy or friendly, but the Russian system didn't seem to have that. It had a green screen, like tube TV that looked like fallout. And it had maybe three green rings, like a bullseye. And you just have to stare at it for 18 hours.

And if you see a green blip, you need to start radioing to figure out what that is. Cause we got to shoot soon or not. There's a pervasive lack of value placed on the humans in the Russian army. And that's true with the conditions like Kyle's calling out. If you look inside Russian tanks, it's fucking brutal. It's super loud. They don't have proper air conditioning and heating. And it's just a miserable existence that no one likes. And it wears you down. And it's terrible. Americans also not really great,

but much, much, much better. But with losses, that's another thing. Like we lose 4,000 soldiers and Americans are like, what are we doing? This is a catastrophe. We lose 200,000 people in Russia. They're crossing that today. And the people are like, yeah, you know, whatever. 200 grand. That's like way shy of a million.

No biggie. Yeah. Russia, their economy is getting smashed so there's a loss of manpower in russia not only have they lost like 200 000 i think that's deaths but it might be casualties i'm not sure only they're like 200 000 people down from the war but they're like a million down from people who left russia so that they avoided the draft and their their population is declining but not just their population it's hitting like some of the most productive members

of society guys in their 20s and 30s and uh it's just it's causing a big problem for them where are they going like belarus estonia latvia lithu that we'll try out up there this is a level of geography I can't help you with that's all I've learned from the Ukraine war is like I know better the countries that border Russia now you got Poland and then Slovakia and then

Ukraine in that little corner down there Finland and then Belarus up up above uh kiev yeah you got norway swin sweden and finland ah the right then i know that's the order what's the estonia latvia is fucking lithuania one i know they're all they're all in the mix up to that see when i think of lithuania i imagine south America. Just lots of squigglies that don't matter. Lithuania, you think South America?

No, I think of it the same way I think of South America. I'm never going to learn where all those little places are. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus. That's north to south. Oh, you don't think like Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia? I bet they're very nice countries. I bet they have festivals where they wear colorful outfits and little hats. They probably have that that like eastern european style architecture where they have those nice cool like they have cold winters that's where you go and get midsummer though you've seen that movie midsummer where they go to like i don't know it's probably some um one of

those ex-north countries but they go somewhere like that to this sort of festival, commune, hippy-dippy kind of thing out in the wilderness, and it's cult. It's cult that's gonna drug you, and I can't remember that Norse word for killing yourself because you're too old, but as soon as they get there,

someone does that, and they're like... I'm just mildly interested. Which drugs do they use on you? they just put you on an ice block and they're drinking like mushroom teas and shit like powerful hallucinogens sold we tried to grow mushrooms in this house it turns out you can buy mushroom spores over the internet legally did you guys know that yeah buddy of mine did. Did he? And then you have to be very careful about keeping everything sterile. And Jackie was like doing it. And she was.

She like bought sterile syringes and then held a lighter to them to make them like down on the sterile. She didn't make it up, though. She's following the instructions from the kit that we bought. And they got mold anyway. Like it didn't make it up though she's following the instructions from the kit that we bought and they got mold anyway like it didn't work but it's like all right yeah i and we were cautious because another guy who i won't name from the pka hangout said that he tried to grow them and it didn't work that they got moldy or something so we're like all right we need to be like uh double extra careful and i didn't do it she did while i was doing the show and uh yeah we had to throw it away goodness i wonder if it's cross contamination like do you need to hold the lighter between every injection or of of spores because i mean i inject a lot

and uh you know they're clean when they come out of that plastic sleeve. They're 100% clean. If they weren't, you have two jobs as a syringe company, right? The second one is not poison everybody. You need to be pokey and clean. That's your job. You see, Kyle, your body has the ability to

heal itself. You're not a culture to create problems. I know problems can happen. If you were to accidentally get one spore or something and your antibodies would probably just deal with it. Maybe that's less true. Zach

asked me if we used Uncle Ben's. No, we bought a kit for growing this stuff that came with Uncle Ben's that cost $50 instead of $5. Interesting. I don't know anything about that stuff. Growing up, we failed at gardening more times than I could count. That would be our sort of spring

summer. Hey, could we be real farmers if we needed to? And the answer was always a resounding no. The land would cry out. No. You guys didn't have just a small garden on tried farm we tried um multiple times all right so first of all when you have full-on farm equipment it's hard to do a small

garden it ends up being you know you're gonna use the tractor to plow it because there's no way i'm getting out there with a tiller when i have a tractor and like a field tiller so it's gonna be at least as wide as that. Right, no one uses the tractor for six feet. Yeah, you know, you'd make a nice size garden. But securing it from the wildlife in the country was such a problem. There's so, so many raccoons and possums and just vermin of every kind. I don't even know what all the little rats and voles are called

that live in those fields. But basically the wildlife would eat it every time. And then I remember one year dad built a, every year he'd get a little bit better. He'd be like, ah, this year we'll lay down rubber. There will be no fucking weeds coming up. This year there'll be an electrified fence. So we have this electrified fence with this rubberized coating and it's been round up and everything's been nuked and it's been properly fertilized this time and watered regularly. And we have all this beautiful corn and these tomato plants in their cages that go up taller than a man.

Big, juicy tomatoes on there, almost ripe. And then this freak summer storm came. I can't make this up and it just it wasn't a tornado or a dust devil or anything like that it was just this sudden micro burst of a storm that flattened everything like aliens came down and smited my father's garden it was right like that place where you saw that truck nearly kill me there where the truck was sitting that's where the garden was so you got no food just all ruined well it was never for food it was more like look at this from the sweat of my brow from the sweat of my brow let's eat this tomato together it was you know it's that sort of thing and it but no

no you're not subsistence farming it's just like fun but like that's exactly what my grandpa did and like the back of his house is like what you were describing where you're like i'm gonna make a big garden if i'm gonna have to bring the tractor and he did that where he just like brought the tractor with the machinery like slammed it down drove 40 feet and then lifted it back up and drove back to the one of the barns he kept it in and like it was i remember feeling like fucking tom sawyer walking out there just like eating tomatoes off the vine and i would like always make excuses like i'm gonna take like three bites of this and then throw it at a cow there's more tomatoes that i can go eat more

of it was the only time that like i opted for eating a shit ton of vegetables because it was fun as a child i was a very successful gardener i grew sunflowers six feet tall i had so many tomatoes you couldn't finish them all etc as an adult i've lost it i every so often we try to plant a tomato and never water it or something eats it you guys are famous for your tomatoes did you get the special seeds the new jersey tomato oh yeah yeah they they were great everyone grows great tomatoes at home. It's the grocery store that sucks. In that area. We've got sandy soil there.

I'm successful with carrots and strawberries, I meant to say. Strawberries, I'm jealous of. That's something that would be nice to have ultra ripe or ultra fresh, I guess, right off the vine. Where do those grow? Can you not do that? I don't know the region.

Jackie got into hydroponic gardening right so in the house we have this 1200 unit to grow she grew peppers and strawberries inside the house and there was like an air bubbler and stuff like that we got like two strawberries for 1200 each smaller than like the section of your pinky from the fingernail up. $600 each. Is that your most disappointing purchase ever? Jackie, no. Savor it. Zach, can you show us?

In Japan, Zach, they make these incredible fancy strawberries that are like maybe $60 to $100, $200 a pop. I know like the average cost is like maybe $100 a basket for a little basket of them. But this, it's one of those Japanese guys who's devoted his life to one fucking thing, like those sushi guys. And he's in this greenhouse with his strawberries like talking about everything he does and it's like when i talk about working out it's like well you gotta soak for two hours and you gotta make sure the water's 102 fucking degrees or is your shampoo soaking in you're not oh you're not min maxing he's like that but talking about growing fucking strawberries and uh he takes and i'm i'm thinking like what a fucking scam right like this is bullshit it's like that i know that that beef that they have yeah look at these

things that the ones i saw were very large um so i um but anyway he cut into it and juice poured out like it was a juicy strawberry to the point where it was like sopping wet on the inside and when the guy bit into one like the juices are running down his face it was like eating an orange or something it was full of strawberry juice and even the guy who was there trying to figure out if strawberries can be worth 200 a basket was like yeah this probably him this is probably the guy i watched i don't know i mean that looks like a really good strawberry it looks like they took the strawberry area and turned the saturation up on that photo to an unrealistic portion am i alone in that it does i mean it looks like they bred that strawberry to get rid of all the nonsense just sugar and sugar liquid in there

there's a great guy that the photo's a bit altered as well. That's my guess. But yeah. It could be. You should have done that. So do you use the hydroponic bay anymore, or is it kind of just... I don't even know where it is. I'm not sure.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Don't say that. I mean, it might be in the attic or in the stable or something. I don't think it's trash, but yeah. the attic or in the stable or something i don't like i don't think it's trash but yeah i bet somebody in our audience would buy that off of ebay for asking price or so and they they probably got some of the they'd like to grow in there you know what i mean yeah not strawberries probably strawberries probably weed boys and berries

we're on the same page yeah but she tried to grow peppers so that's probably what you're talking about man i was looking for a new show, and I remember Jack Ryan, which is the John Krasinski-starring show on Amazon, where he's a secret agent. It was pretty good. I've seen the first two seasons of that, and so I started watching the third season last night.

I got a couple episodes in. It came out in 2022, so it was filmed before the Ukraine war, but they mention it a lot. The thing with Ukraine and Russia is central. And the plot of the season is that someone's trying to reenact or revive this Soviet era plot to push the boundaries through Slovakia and take the Nordic countries. Basically, the Russians are coming. There's a third party within the Russian government is setting up a war between NATO and Russia.

If I hadn't just watched a lot of this go down, I might be more interested. But they're like, oh, we need her to allow us to put the S-300 missile launchers there and they're like if they do that NATO will be screwed and I'm like no we're doing that now it doesn't work it doesn't work so I'm not afraid when they're like scary missile things

not into it it's the thing I know there's buttons and whistles and knobs in there like a Doctor Who console and I just I'm just not not buying it have you heard of succession have you watched it yet i heard someone describe it let's talk about succession they were like this is the i've never seen a show with this many unattractive uh white people in it really so i haven't watched it at all i haven't either i think that what it is is there's a successful business and there's like an inheritance where the kids take it over,

but they didn't have a proper will. So now there's all this infighting and drama as to who's in charge. Equal partnership type situation of a major conglomerate perhaps. Yeah, I got four or five episodes in. Taylor, how close am I then? Do I have it about right? You're close. Yeah, that's what it is.

It is about the succession of a company. It is jarringly bad dialogue. I know I've said this on the show. Like I was looking for a new show to watch and I forced myself to sit there and watch probably four hours of succession before I was like, this is insufferable. Every time someone walks in a room,

they walk in as though they were just rehearsing what they're about to say and they fire it off before they forget their line. It's jarring conversation. It's Gilmore girls style over the top witty colloquialisms. That's not natural. And it's not. All right.

I don't know why the internet loves it. They're acting like it's the current game of thrones. It is the most popular thing right now. I was sitting there watching it. Like, I want to like this because I like Brian Cox a lot. That actor, I really like him. Where's he from?

Brian Cox is in Deadwood. He's got a fun role in the last season of that. Brian Cox is in so many things I can't. He's good in everything. But this show I could not get into. It's so unnatural. Nobody talks to each other this way. No one talks to each other the way they talk.

I'm watching From on Kyle's recommendation jackie and i are watching from so the first episode super hooked me right and the way that we watched it we can only watch one episode the first night and i was like the next day so that's a personal rule you guys have or something no no no well we stopped watching shows at like midnight or something and we didn't oh okay we didn't see the first one until 11 yeah so cool um and i and so the whole next day i'm like i can't wait to watch the next episode of from like i'm so balls deep in this thing i can't wait now we're maybe four or five episodes in and they're doing something that's kind of par for the course like oh we have this mystery and we're going to drag it out very slowly. Over the course of an hour, we're going to give you a little nugget about how the trees are interesting.

Over the course of an hour, we're going to give you a little nugget about how we handle jail around here or something like that. And I'm like, man, I think this is pretty normal for like a mystery type show where they don't just reveal the mystery very quickly but it feels like desperate housewives or something where we spend two years wondering what's in the basement or whatever the fuck that mystery was so i don't 100 agree but all your points are correct um so the uh what I said the other night when I was watching, I was like, these writers better know what the answer to the questions

that they're asking are. You know that? Like, you never ask a question you don't know the answer to in public or in, you know, a TV show. Atticus Finch did that, right? Oh, that's a great one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember the question in particular that Atticus Finch asked, but right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember the question in particular that Atticus Finch asked, but do you? I kind of want to... I'll look it up later. Not for sure. Get me back on track. You never ask a question

you don't know the answer. The writers better know where this is going. They better know where this is going because they're asking a lot of questions and they're throwing a lot of things in there that put roadblocks to certain answers like if you if uh and my i imagined maybe they're all dead maybe this is purgatory because many things about where they are in the setting and how things work the laws of the place they're trapped in remind me of purgatory and one character even asks are we dead are we did we did we survive that car crash that happened in episode one

and then and and so they don't know at first now i know that that's not that wouldn't be where they died but just because of everything everything i've been able to see from the fourth wall someone even says no no no we we saw you have the car crash here and get out we've been here for months this is not about you okay okay that's fair uh and we've seen from that point of view of those characters so they're not lying to us they're telling us the truth um if they don't know the answers to some of these questions i don't know what's going on specifically in season one episode four i'm on season two episode five i think um i've seen episode four so five is to come it debuts on sunday nights uh

okay that's all right i'm i'm really into it so i i get frustrated with shows like this if i start feeling like the writers are stupid or they don't care enough to sew up every plot hole i need you to sew those up you get got and and someone said to me the other day kyle there's monsters there's they're they're like actual monsters in this show you you believe in those and i was like set your rules and keep to them and you're in your fucking sci-fi universe i'll believe like stick to your rules keep to them be consistent let's all believe the same shit together you wouldn't play dungeons and dragons and then suddenly actually it's like this you can't just completely change you know the basic rules of the game exactly things can get enhanced too like i'm pretty flexible with that like in the

superhero world every so often it's like this person is this powerful oh how are they like super saiyan and now it's over 9 000 or something and we're all getting on board with that. But like Kyle says, you can't have I don't know, you can never travel time and bring someone back from the dead. That's a rule you see a lot. But then when they do that, you're like, oh, wait a minute. The last 18 years of the show have all been bullshit.

Why didn't you do that before? You had that gun the whole time that turns everything to ice? Why have we been using this? We've been on this show for 8 years you've been sitting on the ice gun you bitch we fought the magma men for 6 years I've been sweating bullets

in the port-a-john and you had an ice gun the whole time you know how pleasant this could have been they're going to be pissed when they find out about the stake grandma died in the sweltering summer the first year. Could have made ice cubes at least.

You can't just come out of nowhere. I'm really liking it. There are moments that are frustrating. I do like how awful the monsters are. Did it strike you how gory that scene was? Yeah. When they showed the body of the little girl the first episode so i've seen five bodies ish now something like that every one of them has been horrific i want to say there's two kids but

i'm not sure um but yeah yeah no one's immune. When the monsters kill someone, they leave behind the most gruesome corpse possible. This is not a big spoiler because you learn it in the opening minutes of the show, but they're tricky. They can impersonate maybe someone that you love and they'll say just what you need to hear to allow you to get close to them. And they're really strong.

They look like, say, a frail old grandma. But when she needs to punch through fucking landscaping timbers, it's a non-issue. Yeah, because it's a demon or you don't know what it is. But it's not an old lady. I've been saying, because I've seen a lot of situations like that where the monsters are deceptive and manipulative like that, I was like, there's no way I could have anybody

in my core group, the people that I slept with, there could be no loose ends. There could be no loose ends at all. You just couldn't stay here. It's like vampires. To some extent, they can't... Vampires can't bite the man. Vampires. Yeah. To some extent they can't, you know,

vampires, these things come in as soon as you open a door. I don't even know if you need to lock the door, but, but they, because of this, uh, magical talisman,

just let it go. Uh, they can't come in. They can't break the windows. They can't open the door even. I don't think, uh, and I don't think they could,

they can't walk in if the door is open. As far as I know, you know what I'm curious no they can yeah so in the very beginning i think this is episode one there's an rv that's tipped over and they're unable to leave the rv that night the sun's going down these monsters are only a problem at night time so they hang a talisman in the rv which left me to wonder was was the RV a house? And that's why it worked. Or can you do it in any sedan? I don't know.

Could he have done it? They made a little prison. It's like a, I don't know, a picture of a shed outside. It was one of those single horse trailers. The one you throw like one horse in. Was it because it was wood at the bottom? Maybe I'm wrong. Well, those are wood at the bottom, you know, the slats and all't wood at the bottom you know the slats and all oh i didn't know that okay all right well i think kyle knows a lot more about horse trailers than i do but anyway so they

were in some sort of horse trailer and uh horse trailer expert so if he had hung a talisman in the horse trailer could he have been safe yeah. Yeah. That's my understanding of it. I'm like, I've seen one episode. Dan, Kyle. Yeah. Yeah.

My understanding is that any sort of closed, anything that's enclosed that would require a door to be opened or something to be moved in order to allow someone in, they have to be invited into that, whether it's a car or a trailer or anything that has doors and windows one of the one of the janky things is and they i do appreciate that the characters don't know they have conversations like we're having right now because they don't know exactly they found those talismans in the woods one guy did and just discovered kind of you know how schwarzenegger it like backs up into the mud and predator in the mud they think

can't see him through the mud and that's how he finds out it sees through heat you have a moment kind of like that where we get our talisman our first talisman or whatever and uh but the characters have these discussions like all right it worked on the rv what about uh a room in a house and you know what about individual rooms in a house? Because if that's the truth, why don't we separate every building into a checkerboard and put them everywhere? We could lock them into a space.

That's a little side conversation by that main... There's a little side conversation by that main kind of heavy woman in the town that answers the... I don't know which episode it is. I look forward to hearing that, but yeah, I've had the same question. There have been some attacks

where, like, oh, they get through the front door, and then they close another door along the way, and I'm like, oh, smart. They had layers to the defense, but it turned out they did not have layers to the defense, and all they had was a closed door that represented no problem at all for these monsters. And I was like, why can't they do that? why can't they put a talisman in each bedroom or you'll get

a specific answer to that later on i won't go into it okay okay uh they're good about that because things like that annoy me and i think some people just watch in the background or you're you know it's popcorn show you don't care but it's got to make sense to me or i get frustrated with the show well this doesn't make sense because it feels lazy and i don't like it let me ask you this is a good job that like i said i'm like almost after this i'm going to watch the last episode and be caught up with you nice are you a little annoyed at how these people handle every single person that shows up in perhaps a way that if it was your job to be practiced at this you wouldn't like in other words they are overwhelmingly abrasive and panic inducing to everyone that shows up in the new town like it seems like you'd have a nice

onboarding committee by them they're just like they just come out like guns blasting, like, you're going to die. You're going to die. Follow me. And they're like, oh, there's a new person here. Let's strap him to the bed like a mentally insane patient. It's just for your own good. It's like, no, you know, that guy was drugged and you can't have him opening the interior doors and nobody would know that.

Right. So it's it's a weird spot you're being put in because they're gonna know they're gonna be chill at by night and normally i'm really frustrated in situations like this where you got a group who doesn't believe in the monsters and a group that knows about the monsters and you're like come on get to the part where everybody knows about the monsters then we can progress they get to that quickly because at night the monsters are fucking coming. There's no, the monsters should be slick with it.

If the monsters were smart, new group of people shows up, you know what? Let's lay off the night. Let's let them kidnap the other group at gunpoint at scream about monsters. Then nothing happens. Let's see how they last through the day. After,

after the first night goes like, damn, you're sinister. That's a good a good idea well even more than that use the talismans to make a monster trap right oh you went in boom wall up behind you and a talisman on that something like that garage doors whatever you got to do multiple talismans multiple doors large structure now we caught a monster we wait till the sun comes up and we fucking pull the roof off and see what happens. We make him talk. Why aren't we torturing these fuckers? They live somewhere.

Why don't we go get them, drag them out in the sunlight, stake them to the ground? They're strong, but they're not like gods. They're not demigods. They're just monsters. I don't know. Yeah, but like you saw how that one reacted to like getting shot like they don't not in the head. They haven't bothered to shoot one in the face yet.

For all I know, they're zombies. And this could have been solved with one technique. I was thinking they were more ethereal almost and that they almost dissipate in the day and come back at night. I don't know, though. I do. Exactly.

They give you answers to things like that along the way. I recommend the show. Taylor, I guess we'll learn that next episode you're only one of us i'm not i'm not written things yeah that even yeah okay i see yeah um oh maybe i did yeah i'm trying not to not to spoil anything i just remember buying into for what polar bear and Lost and thinking, man, someday they're going to tell me about that polar bear and I'm going to be, aha! They never did. That smoke monster. It was just never the...

Walt had the ability to wish things into existence. And then they just... I think that one time they completely explained the entire Lost universe as a figment of Hurley's imagination. And he was in like a psych ward. And then that explanation just kind of drifted away and they didn't go any farther.

Further, I guess. But yeah, it was really frustrating. They didn't have a plan. The X-Files had a problem like that with their main overarching mythos. They kept muddling up whether it was an alien conspiracy with a shadow government to sort of move in and take over. And our governments were trying to keep a piece of the pie, essentially. Or is it super soldiers? And the alien thing is just like a cover story

because people will see Little Green Men and they won't realize we built super soldiers that are doing this, that, and the other. And they couldn't make their mind up. They kept doing that where they would give you definitive evidence one way or another and then they'd forget about that and just move along. And it's like, shit, I care.

I hope this story doesn't do that. If it has answers, this is a good show. It's more mysterious and provoking as far as the world than Last of Us and all that. It's interesting. It's novel. There's a mystery to it. How many questions have they asked so far? Or mysteries have they thrown in front of us, I should say?

They'll show a thing. They'll be like, look at this. The forest makes magical goats that scream at you. And you're like, oh, my God, they're scared. And then we won't touch on that anymore. And I'm like, man, I hope someday they explain those goats we saw back there. Because if they don't, it's going to be weird. They've instigated a whole bunch of interesting questions.

And so hopefully they actually have meaningful answers. That's what Lost is. Every episode of Lost was like a trailer for a movie. I'd love to see the movie never came out. Never. Is there any other like mystery show that had you like guessing as you watched along? Kyle doesn't have to be new. Desperate Housewives did that.

So the onion that my mom watched that that that that Daniel Craig movie,ig movie uh the onion whatever uh the fuck um that was um that was a good movie and it was a mystery but i can't think of mystery tv shows off the top of my head this one's good this is uh this is good again if they don't have answers then they're it's a crock of shit because it's easy to write mysterious stuff and not know how it all ties together because i'm i'm really trying here and i can't figure out what the fuck's going on the stephen king conundrum so without spoiling i'm almost positive that it's not purgatory and they are alive okay my best guess and this isn't even utilizing information from any further down the road than you are is that they're in some kind of uh i don't know pocket universe

created by a cult maybe some cult was doing some crazy thing uh to like a one of those old-timey um lovecraftian gods and created this little pocket universe hell trap that's that just because i don't know just something about the way the the objects have you seen what are the trees how the trees have holes in them i think i think he threw a rock in and the rock fell from the sky yeah so that told me that this thing is it's like man it's all kind of a loop right i bet if you dug down in the ground far enough like to the core of the earth right and drop something it would fall from the sky like you might remember there's a um a hole in the ground where you like open the double doors and there was a corpse that screamed

at the wealthy successful dude and then he turned his head again and the course was gone did they like explain that how that goes down so that guy is i don't think it's a sport that guy is essentially a sensitive to whatever's going on here and the spooky nature of it so he is going to see things that the others can't see i think someone says hear things they're like gabby said this place was a calling out to us oh some folks can't listen. Some shit like that to explain how these people are. Very poltergeisty. Yeah, yeah.

So my guess is he's sort of sensitive to things like that. And what he was seeing was a man who died there in the past. And I think what that is is an outlet for one of the trees. The trees are essentially teleportals. You hop in the hole on one side. You come out somewhere else, but you don't really know where. They're not exactly accurate. That weird old guy was like,

You can come out anywhere. Maybe in a candy shop or inside a mountain. I'm like, whoa, those are vastly different places. Or in my bedroom. You can be bent over and sore you know what was like with the show like when i first started watching it that one dude where they're like he's been here the longest yeah i was like oh my god they're in like an arrested age situation where this guy has lost his mind from centuries of loneliness before someone else stumbled in.

And then it became clear that it's like, no, he wasn't alone that long. He's just not very stable. Yeah, at one point I thought that that older fella, because he was so childlike, lunchbox and all, that he was going to be the couple's little boy. And there was like a time loop. Like just briefly for a second, I thought that he was going to be the older version of the boy uh or something like that and so he was gonna

the reason he was so fucked up was because of what was going to happen to this group and he we're gonna keep like him having flashbacks in our group moving forward and those flashbacks in the forward time movement we're gonna collide and but he was gonna change it all i thought they'd go that route no not, not at all. Not at all. That's not what it is. Completely different guy. They explain where he came from, his backstory, or at least 80% of it. They've got answers to some questions,

so I'm very hopeful. If they don't start answering a couple more questions, though, soon it's going to be like, oh, no, I don't think those mysteries from episode four of season one are ever being addressed again.

If you have a mystery show, it's not meant to run 11 seasons yeah this thing needs to be three four three or four is that what kyle said two three or four seasons yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't want to have 11 years of barry for example barry is a great example that barry is killing it right now with the ratings like it's a very popular show i don't know how many rewards it's won like if it's zero or a million i literally don't know but um it's so fucking good i'm i'm simultaneously doing a rewatch with a girlfriend and uh keeping current with the fourth season right now so i'm like really into it right now man it's so good

it's fun when that happens like you know i'm re-watching this so suddenly i'm a deep subject matter expertise on this show yeah years ago yeah um he's such a good fucking actor uh because part of his character in that is that he's trying to be an actor but he's awful at it so he has to play a terrible actor um and then he has there's a part where he has this incredibly i don't want to spoil it it's a great show i i definitely recommend yeah you liked barry from the start when it was a new show you said it was good it's one of my favorite shows he's it's it's bill haters acting uh he is some people someone was like it's a dark comedy

right and i was like yeah i kind of suggest it's 50 50 dark and comedy and it's more like 80 dark and 20 comedy uh bill hater's jokes are sort of someone will be like spilling their heart to bill hater like you've got to do this you've got to listen to me this is so important and and you'll flip to bill hater what now like he wasn't listening that's their idea of a joke most of the time as far as bill hader's concerned he's just not with it socially he he's he's somewhere on the spectrum maybe he's definitely a psychopath well that you know uh and then um the guy that played the the fawns i can't think of his his real name he's henry wrinkler henry wrinkler wrinkler something wincler wincler sounds right yeah um no it's tremendous basically it's a hitman who uh is trying to be an actor he kind of fumbles his way into an acting class and finds

it to be interesting and um so he's trying to balance those two things and he's also friends with this guy called noho hank who is a is it albanians it's chechens i think i think he's a chechen um like mobster with alopecia who's gay and he's uh he's really funny he's really funny i remember that character from what i every time every time he like they'll go to his boss his boss is the boss boss of the mob in la and every time he welcomes someone in the house, he'll be like, can I get you anything? Drink? Soda?

Maybe a beer? Submarine sandwich? And then later on, the boss is like, I've had enough of this shit. Every time, it's my fucking house. You're offering submarine sandwich, submarine sandwich. I am not made out of submarine sandwich. There's a lot of good comedy in there. And then the darkest shit ever will happen.

Like really dark, awful things. And Bill Hader will be shattered. And the fourth season is wild. It's off the goddamn rails. I can't tell if what's happened in the fourth season is even real. Or if it's in his head at this point. I'll have to re-watch season one and two to remember what that show is about. Because I haven't seen.

I think I only watched season one when you were recommending it. What was it? Like five probably years ago now. Around there. It was good though. Like I remember the violent scenes in the garage. That was nice. I was entertaining.

He started filing his teeth with a big the like a big file he's like like sawing oh yeah i remember that teeth and and because they want bill hater to go kill someone they're like go kill this guy and he's like i can't do it i don't do that anymore and they start filing his buddy's teeth out and his buddy is screaming and he's just like you're gonna have to file his teeth out you're the worst friend ever at least lie for now so that we can like take a break from the tooth filing that guy is like spitting chunks of teeth up when they finally let him go because he's filed like bunches it It was like a big mechanics file and the captions go

rasping noises. And I was like, it's like what you would have used to like to like break out of prison in like a Looney Tunes where they like it's a blacksmith's file. Like I've used files like that. You know, it's it's a it would be awful. It'd be a terrible torture. You know that your teeth hold up.

I think they would crumble like like like like chiclets and they'd be awful. It would be a terrible torture. You don't think your teeth would hold up? I think they would crumble like chiclets. They would be gone. Woody, how's the basketball realm going? I genuinely want to know. I heard something happened. I know I just asked you a question, and now I'm just jumping right back in. I also want to hear about that goofballball job morant or whatever who got oh yeah

flashing the gun and then all right so basketball for me real quick uh the 76ers made it to game seven of the second round through halftime it was pretty even and then there was like a historically bad run they got outscored if it's not 27 to 3 like that was a 27-3 run. It was about that. It could have been 25-3. That sounds rough. Yeah, so my Sixers got blown out. Our best player was the best player on the planet this year. He's MVP. And in the playoffs, he wasn't the MVP.

The thing is, no one is looking at the fact that three games into the playoffs... By the way, he won all three of those games, and then he had a terrible knee injury. He had to miss like two weeks, and he came back, and he wasn't himself. Every time he jumped like two feet in the air, he'd fall to the ground on his butt and kind of roll it out. Yeah.

People don't know what guarding is. Let's say you hurt your arm. You might hold it like this for a little bit. That's guarding. This guy was totally guarding. He never planted his foot. He always had to sort of gingerly work with one bad leg. And his numbers are down.

The whole basketball world is blasting him as a playoff choker. Yeah. And it's like, he had one leg. Come on. Lighten up a little bit. He was the leading scorer in the league for the last two years. And you're acting like he's crap. But their coach got fired. And our second second best player who was the 2018 mvp so five or six years ago um i'm saying this year versus next year um and it looks like he wants to leave the team so

now we're losing our second best player and we've lost our coach and we've got the best player in the world with really no route towards championships. So it's a rough time. Yeah, like this was the year that the Sixers were, you know, any... I'm sure there's a hockey parallel where you're like, you know, the champ's going to be one of these four teams. We were one of those four and it didn't win. You don't think next year they'll be back in that? Because as someone who doesn't follow the NBA,

it seems like these players threaten to leave all the time. They leave, though. It's a good team. They made it this far. Coach just got fired. He might wait to see who the next coach is. Apparently, he wants to go back to Oklahoma, which is where he's from. That's where he played the bulk of his career. It's where he won his MVP. This guy is a strip club fanatic. They went on Reddit and ran his numbers in cities with higher

rated strip clubs. His productivity goes down. When he got traded out of Oklahoma, the strip clubs, his productivity goes down. When he left, when he got traded out of Oklahoma, the strip clubs retired his number, his jersey. He wants to go back. He's got a pole named after him. Pictures of all the strippers' kids graduating college on the wall

with his money. They're all 6'5 or taller. Anyway, it looks like we're going to lose James Harden. We'll wait and see. Nothing's set in stone. We are losing our coach. They've dismissed him, they said. We'll see who the next coach is there.

It's really hard to predict what next year brings, given that our second best player's maybe gone. Our coach is gone. I don't know. John Morant. John Morant, say four or five months ago, got filmed holding a gun in a nightclub in Denver. Now, this guy is not from Denver, which we all know what happened there. He took the team plane to Denver.

That's how he got there. So that means he had his gun on that plane. And you can't do that, apparently. Kyle probably knows you can check luggage and everything but these that's not how he travels right the dude man probably had that gun in his hip and yeah i think that's an nba rule violation was the bigger problem was because that's a nba facility uh it was a nightclub uh so it was like a dance club where he was he had his locker their concern seemed to be at the time was,

was it on NBA? Like that's how the NBA is. They'll be like, dude, he killed his wife. Oh my God. Where did he kill her? At home?

Not on company property, right? Yeah. Okay. Was he wearing Nike's when he did it? So this guy, John Morant is a wannabe gangster. And a lot of people

fuss at this he is not a guy who came from like the mean streets of brooklyn and this is just who he is no no no no both his parents are married both his parents were division one athletes that graduated college he grew up in the suburbs his dad built him a basketball court in his backyard. Like this, this guy, he went from the suburbs to the NBA, to the hood in that order. And, and now he's all hard dancing with guns everywhere. So anyway, he got no big problem flashing his gun in a Denver nightclub four or five months ago, three, I don't know. And, um, just last four or five days ago, three, I don't know. And just last four or five days ago, he was on Instagram Live, right? Trying to get clout.

Why else would you be on Instagram Live doing your thing? He was dancing in a car and his buddy's holding the camera. And by the way, he knows he's on Instagram Live. He decided to take his pistol and flashes that. His buddy quickly darts the camera away from Ja, but it's too late. As we all know know if you're stupid for just one frame that's enough and uh now what's going on now well it's not done yet it looks like he's gonna have a substantial suspension people are talking about half a season we'll see was this tennessee uh the memphis grizzlies so yeah

yeah i know that because someone on reddit was like this is the governor of tennessee's christmas card and its entire family holding ar-15s you know that you get in trouble for uh the second one because he was just showing it like yeah all i don't think he broke any laws that i know of uh i i don't even know if he can hold a gun like that where he was uh like in north carolina in north carolina here it's interesting if you don't have your concealed carry license you have to put the gun on like the passenger seat and lay it out in the open and now you can travel around with it. Open carry is legal, but concealed is not.

Hang it from the mirror. I bet you could. Yeah, that might be like a DMV issue, but it's not a gun issue. It's just spinning. It's like, what if we have a wreck day fine i'm taking the left i think you might be able to put it on the dashboard too but but yeah you have to have it like out in the open like that so what he did

i don't know tennessee laws but it doesn't break the laws that i know of but he's in public and he's irresponsible it's a problem and it's cost him a lot i i forget it i think i've heard 22 million or 40 million he would have been an all nba player and the way his contract was structured if he made like first team all nba or something he was going to make either 20 or 40 million dollars like like real money that matters even to rich people and he didn't get that because he got suspended and didn't make those teams instead of trying to try i did not know about this aspect of the story jesus christ 20 million dollars 39 million yes i was pretty good i would be i'd be in church wearing a tie yeah and it's a problem

the nba is going to come down tough on him i think so like If you go back, the NBA lost fans. I'll just say it for what it is. They lost white fans because a lot of the players started getting this gangsterhood vibe about them. Allen Iverson days with the tattoos and the cornrows and stuff like that. The commissioner at the time, David Stern, issued a dress code and a conduct code. And he came down hard on players who hurt the image of the NBA. Now we have this guy, Adam Silver, who's soft as a marshmallow.

And he's just not like keeping players in line. It's my suspicion that that turns the corner a little bit with John Moran. We'll see. Dude, if Adam Silver showed up at my door the same way those people from From do, I am not letting that guy in. He looks like... Have you seen that guy?

Yeah, yeah. If he were standing next to those From people, they'd be like, oh, I'm not going to fuck with him. He's one of us. You know the farmer with the pitchfork and his wife? It's a very famous painting. Yeah, American Gothic.

Okay, that's what he looks like to me. Put him back in. He looks like someone shot him. Look at this, Jimmy. What is that, Mr. Jim? This here is a leukemia ray. What does it do? In the words of

Colin Quinn, he looks like an unfinished clone. Yeah, so that guy's weak on crime. This guy's spooky. We'll see what happens to Ja, but I think most people are predicting something like half a season of suspension.

Alright, before we close, I wanted to imagine the three of us. We're living in the post office and from. We've staked that spot out. We've got a rule set. Obviously, you don't go out at night. You don't open the doors. Those are the rules. Maybe there's a rule. We don't go out

for each other. Once they've got you, they've got you. It's like a tiger. I don't even want a friend. I don't want you back anyway you know you're gonna be all fucked up but then one night i'm you hear me banging on the fucking door and i'm screaming you don't understand i you know they drug me outside let me back in let me back back in quick you know they could tell you lies they could impersonate me you can't open the door you can't open the door now i'll let you in yeah i was thinking that too and so so you might know and then you're all dead you clearly know more about from than i do because

i'm early on but it's been my like most people aren't fooled by the monsters one the monsters can't run because they're not smart enough they don't write the monsters smart enough i okay i interpret it as there are rules around the monsters. Monsters only walk. They only walk. So Kyle, all I need are three hustle steps out of you. That's the proof I need to open the door. Let me in! Can you jump for me? All right, come in.

Yeah, right? There are some tests. They don't seem to be spry. They don't seem to authenticate you. Yeah. The running thing I didn't observe, they they said it they said monsters never run because they're never in a hurry they can chase you down so that's not just an observation it's a rule in the universe interesting yeah i i certainly haven't seen them run uh so i don't know i think that uh they they could somehow have the real me drugged or something so i'm passed out somewhere

and and then the fake me comes up and he's like quick let me in i got fucking locked out they drug me out or i could be like oh fucking that chick said she's gonna suck my dick you know how it is i was in the torture trailer out there i was in the horse trailer getting blown and then they you'd be like oh that sounds like kyle and you'd like open the door and then you're all dead you're all including for me outside's not that dangerous if they can't run. Now, look, I'm not a good runner. I am a bad runner. I'm just not built for speed.

But if a monster can't run, shit, I got a couple blocks in me, right? I can get from here to there. I can go to the neighbor's house. I can get around at night and just hustle a little. They have to be able to do more than just slowly walk because there are so many times that like they just appear slowly walking like out of nowhere like they can slowly walk and teleport yeah did they like slowly a theory because like there are some times where like the guys the guys in the woods and like hiding

and in no time at all it's like they're walking by me towards something else now it's like yeah did they just appear apparition style and now i don't know but yeah that is a great point woody because you're so right all you would have to do is be like guys we have a new system it's called jumping jacks like you do it at the door and we know instantly you're you're cool cool. These monsters are arrogant. Oh, they can't do jumping jacks? Is that what you're saying? They clearly can't run. Run in place!

Serpentine! Everybody's doing high knees to pretend we're real. No, they can't catch you if you run diagonally. That's what you tell the new people. I like that though. It's the first episode when the

monster appeared as the grandma that interested me I wish they would do that more they would have the monsters impersonate people in the group and kind of do whatever daughter's boyfriend who the guy got shot in the shoulder it was her it was a friend who was

a boy like someone she knew and he was being deceitful and uh i think the the sheriff guy from lost the strong black guy shot the make-believe boyfriend in the shoulder so that there was some impersonation there too i don't know i'm new to the show read your mind or something know your memories yeah i'm gonna go watch the last episode of it. Which, by the way, like Taylor said, it comes from your thoughts. It must. It's not like I just watched Picard

and I had to have your body to clone your body. I couldn't just do it based on guesses. Yeah. That's not the rules in this universe. All I need to know is your thoughts, I guess. Yeah. Well, it's a good series. All right. PKN 456.

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