Painkiller Already - PKN 486

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn46 what's up boys what's going on everyone hello everybody nothing new and you guys know what we're just talking about our our gaming ideas i've been playing a bunch of daisy you're wanting to play this lethal company game with me finally i've poisoned you enough or your brother has um you tag-teamed me yeah i'm like oh man if kyle and my brother are talking about it this must be a a real humdinger of a game and only 9.99 when people freak out about games this cheap it's usually like it's like a steal it's like can you believe how much fun we're having for this game that's like a cost of a chipotle burrito usually they're 80 bucks now freak out about a game that cheap it's usually a meme like among us was among us that good well among
Starting point is 00:00:47 us wasn't a meme that was one of the most played games of all time that took over all forms of social media and every big streamer on the planet played celebrity aoc was playing that game in front of a million people live or some shit that game was a phenomenon meme no because it's good phenomenons too memes are like remember the knuckles thing where where they're in vr and sonic knuckles is like you are not the queen spit on the queen that's a meme that's this little thing in the corner of the internet that like we get exposed to and haha silly silly and then it's gone a week later among us was a big deal i hate among us i thought it was i'm still stuck on this meme baby, baby. A meme is a very unpopular, barely known thing, Woody. You know, like, I hate a frog.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Okay, you wouldn't say Call of Duty is a meme, though. You know, there's different... When you say a game is a meme, you're disrespecting it. Call of Duty is a fully developed game coming out of a AAA studio. You didn't play this year's game, clearly. This is true. We're live. But, like, I guess I'm thinking an old is you know it's a triple a big time game uh
Starting point is 00:01:50 among us is a simple thing in an indie studio i assume and yeah the gameplay was really like fall guy i would call a meme too i wouldn't i wouldn't say those are memes. Fall Guys is still decently popular. Fall Guys is revolutionary. Fall Guys is revolutionary. Absolutely. It's not a platformer. It's combining platforming and Battle Royale for the first time in a way
Starting point is 00:02:18 that, again, took over the internet. If you look at us, I bet there's streamers who bought their houses playing that game. They would not think it's a meme. They're like, we made $1.3 million playing Among Us. It was not a meme. It's not an insult. I'm trying to describe a game that has
Starting point is 00:02:34 a really simple premise. It's not deep. Among Us is kind of like Codenames. Codenames isn't an incomplete meme game because it's so simple and silly. The game like Codenames. Codenames isn't an incomplete meme game because it's so simple and silly. The game of Codenames is a lot of the tactics
Starting point is 00:02:50 and banter and trying to convince people of something else. Yeah, same with Among Us. That game could have looked like fucking anything. And as long as it facilitated, because it's like,
Starting point is 00:03:00 what do they need you to do? Oh, you need to go hold X near the wires. Because it's not really about holding X near the wires. It's about your ability to defend that you really were holding x near the wires in the uh group chat or whatever afterward it took the word and made it mainstream i've never heard of sus before among us i don't know if it was around before among us yeah so i'm definitely not claiming it to be unpopular or unprofitable
Starting point is 00:03:26 or to counter any of the arguments you made. I'm just saying it's so simple and lame. I don't know. I don't think simple games are necessarily lame. Sometimes those are the cool. Compared to a lot of shooters, the pushback I'll hear about Borderlands, which I know you enjoy as a franchise.
Starting point is 00:03:45 They'll be like, oh, it looks so goofy. It looks like Archer. It's like cel-shaded. It's like, yeah, I don't care. That's kind of neat. Borderlands rocks. It's a great franchise. I don't look at guns in Borderlands and then guns in COD or Rust and be like, Borderlands needs to get on their level.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's like, no way. The cel-shading of Borderlands. I don't want to use genius because it wasn't that complicated but here's what happened they built that whole game out it wasn't going to be cell shaded like that that just wasn't in the cards that wasn't how they designed it and then afterwards they're like this shit's a six out of ten like it let's not play their game let's not be a shitty looking shooter where you walk around and get bugs let's make it a cartoon or something cell shade this thing drop the realism apparently
Starting point is 00:04:32 that's an effect that they can just like decide to drop on it's not complicated at all and um body and then boom they they stopped trying to compete in the realism game like you know yeah most games do and went in a different direction and I think it really worked for them. 100%. I like the way Borderlands universe looks. It's so unique and cool and it plays into the cartoonishness of the monsters
Starting point is 00:04:56 and the beasts and everything. I love Borderlands. It's really well phrased. It's unique and it's different. If cel shading became a popular thing I don't think Borderlands would compete very well. It might not. It's unique and it's different. If cell shading became a popular thing, I don't think Borderlands would compete very well. Yeah, it might not. But this Lethal Company one,
Starting point is 00:05:15 130,000 overwhelmingly positive reviews. So that seems like a good indication it's going to be fun. So I haven't played it or even bought it, but I've watched enough and caught enough of it through just the world that it seems to me that you and three of your friends work for a very terrible company who has these tasks for you to do like ah bob we need you to go down to sector one and pick up the spinning wheel thingy bring it back here with you and you'll get you know your points or you'll win or whatever i don't know how the game works but what I've noticed is then they have to run around this lair that's always full
Starting point is 00:05:48 of awful monsters. It's like survival, not survival, it's horror with monotonous tasks and teamwork and co-op, but also instead of teamwork, I watch General Sam, so he usually just pushes his friend down the hole and lets his friend get eaten by the
Starting point is 00:06:04 monsters and then runs in and scores the point or whatever. It's its own strategy. Yeah, for sure. So I'm definitely down to play. I think it'll be a real hoot with three or four people. Yeah, I'll give it a go for sure. $9.99. I can't afford for it to be a ton of fun and me to miss out on it for the low, low price of $9.99.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I was talking about DayZ and how that's the first PC game I ever played. Some PC company wanted to build me a PC. It's a long story, but they built me a PC, sent me a PC. I didn't want it because I was mad about they were anti-gun or something. They would give me the PC, but they wouldn't let
Starting point is 00:06:40 me tell people they gave it to me. It's like, you're ashamed of me? It really pissed me off i and i had to add this meeting with their owner anyway i've got this pc that i don't want to play and finally i get around to it i pull it out of the it's just sitting there brand new for weeks and months maybe and i'm gonna terrible business strategy it was well they had agreed to do it but then they backtracked but they didn't want to go back on their word but they also didn't want to be associated with firearms they were they were la based and the guy was so i put daisy in because everybody says that's the game and i just remember for an hour just
Starting point is 00:07:10 walking around and starving to death and getting beaten to death by zombies and i'm like where are the guns like i've got my you're punching for a long time you're just punching zombies and they get they they get you and they and you're dead and it was like we're not even in a map really we're just kind of down by the docks and like i can see so far in every direction that it's that's still kind of what it is but it's so much better now it's so much more than that now the and like you said sometimes it's not just the mechanics of the game but how players interact and cod there's no interaction right you might hear the death cam fuck you pussy or you might hear fuck you shot me again or something like that but in this game or something else or something else in words uh in this game
Starting point is 00:07:51 there's a lot of social interaction where you can you can hold people up because you go in there and you've spent an hour and a half literally getting like your backpack and like maybe a shotgun but you don't have the shells yet and a pistol but you've got one bullet for it which is good because you can commit suicide in this game and press f11 to like blow your and you do it too you how would that help you is it like oh this is a terrible place to be starting that that or like you break your leg and you don't have a splint because that's what you can do to people that's why people say yes and agree to be held up. And even if they're not role players, because if I shoot you in the leg, I ruin your whole playthrough. I'm going to restart.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Basically you have to restart. And it's not like in rust and rust, for example, the maps are big, but they're not gargantuan. If you spawn me on the wrong side of the map and rust, I'll, I'll be back in 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You bitch. I know where you live. Not in this game. It's like, fuck. I'm on the other side of eternity now. So people will be like, I give up. What do you need?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I'll give you whatever you want. And you can make them do awful things. You can make them eat raw meat or human meat. You can handcuff them. Yeah, you can tie them up and bind them. And the keys for the handcuffs might be the rarest item in the whole game.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But handcuffs are everywhere. The keys, they can't figure that out from all the scrap metal laying around. So I watch a guy called Stimpy, and he's just evil. First of all, he can do like three nationality accents convincingly. If he needs to be a guy from the Netherlands, suddenly he is. If he needs to be Australian, English, I think he is English. He'll do a Southern American sometimes, and he'll blend in with these groups, and they'll be all around a fireplace eating, trying to survive,
Starting point is 00:09:33 and he's sneak feeding them human meat. Oh, so he's just a terrible guy. You can feed people and bandage people without them saying, yeah, give it to me, so you can kind of come up behind them when they're busy and in a menu and do this animation. And you can feed them guts or raw meat and they'll get blood infection. They'll be like, oh, I've got a blood infection. And they're vomiting.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And you'll be like, oh, here, drink this water. But it's not water. It's gasoline. But they can't tell. It's just a bottle I handed them. So they're glug, glug, glug, glug, drinking the gasoline. Oh, this water ruins my mouth. So much sticker.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's real shitty the way people treat each other. And that's the fun part, I guess. Although the survival is challenging as fuck. It's very hard just to stay alive in that game. Yeah, but I'm like imagining like sneaking around all deft and sly and like slipping food into someone's pot. Like what would actually happen is people would
Starting point is 00:10:25 just be like feeding me rotten eggs and i'd be like this game sucks why am i so sick all the time they'd be like well people are feeding you rotten quail eggs they found in the field he'll frame people they'll he'll feed someone human meat which and eventually it makes you go crazy human meat and you start giggling which notifies people you've got a cannibal in your group so he'll frame people for being cannibals like that or there was one when they're they're cooking a can of beans on a stove him and four other guys we're all gonna take a sip of beans when they get hot because it's frozen outside and he keeps taking the beans off the stove and put and but but he but you don't reach out and take them they just disappear so no one knows who took them and the guy who owns the can is like the fuck stop taking the beans but he never moves or says a word while everybody else goes back and forth it's not me like so eventually the bean owner goes
Starting point is 00:11:17 and kills two of them that he thinks are bean thieves the real bean thief slicks in their pocket real quick and goes aha he was the bean thief all along everybody's like yeah you got it bro we got the bean thief but my stupid misstablish over there i'm gonna do more than steal beans next time so they're just chaotic evil it's not even chaotic neutral yeah like um there's a whole series of videos i've seen where you'll meet someone they'll be like cooking sitting there over a fire both of your roasting meat having like a conversation and the guy's like i'm so glad i met you bro everybody in this game's so mean and then there's a quick cut and the guy's laying there dead and our guy's wearing his coat now and that repeats over and
Starting point is 00:11:59 over the guy will have a gun and he'll be like oh man it's a nice gun you got there and the guy go thanks quick cut now he's examining it like man that's a nice hat you've got it's a wolf headdress huh yeah yeah it's pretty sick you gotta kill a wolf you gotta kill three wolves oh neat he's walking around like kramer the pimp this fucking fur coat and his long his big top hat that that does sound like a fun game it can be fun if you know how to play it and make it fun for yourself but it's one of those games that like i said when i when i tried it that first time when it was in that early alpha stage god it's an obnoxious game it wasn't a game if i have to run across the wilderness punching trees and then i meet up
Starting point is 00:12:39 you know link up with my bros and then they're like secretly poisoning me with with killer beans i'm going to quit i'm like fuck you guys i'm done with this game you wasted an hour and a half of my time just so you could get me sick that's the thing though the people who play that game are a lot of people who play that game view that as valuable gameplay like because they see it as a role-playing experience so getting poisoned and treated badly went poorly this time. But that was the role-play experience. Next time I will be craftier.
Starting point is 00:13:12 So that means the whole community becomes kind of nasty over time. I don't know. I've been enjoying DayZ, but I'm down to play this Lethal Company game for sure. That's what happened to me when I played DayZ. I had a hard time with the nastiness. Oftentimes,
Starting point is 00:13:27 I play with fans. It's like, okay, there's 11 of us. We are a force on this giant, even a giant island like this. 11 people is a force. You don't fuck with that. I'm not good, but I'm playing with people who are good. Therefore, I am powerful. I am leading powerful people. Therefore, I am powerful.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Our goal was to like get a helicopter and fly around which we did however while we made that happen people were turning on each other shooting each other like not and and i'm like man he was on our team and now he's dead for good like that's it he's dead they're like, Woody, you knew it this. If we didn't kill him, he was going to kill us. Like, he gave no indication that he was going to turn on us. Welcome to DayZ. That's how you play.
Starting point is 00:14:14 We're like a call center here. A lot of turnover. I still don't know if he was making good calls. He was more experienced than me. That's undoubtable. Yeah. But sometimes someone will get ill or injured in a way that if we don't want to waste 10 or 20 minutes like fixing them up a little bit it's like gotta cut our losses with you you know like we're not gonna find any what blood type are
Starting point is 00:14:36 you yeah we're not gonna find any more of that out here you're done and that's a thing you get if you i found a blood collection thing and i'm like what do i do with this i looked it up you collect blood from people but only if they're the right blood type because you get that hemoglobin poisoning or whatever if you put some ab negative into your b positive body you know when you pull up your character sheet is it like b positive um i don't know where you disposition towards schizophrenia no don't sneak weed into my into my pipe i'll lose my mind yeah um it's very in-depth very complicated but i like mean games like that and and i wanted to play i want to play um tarkov so bad but man the cheaters i talked to class a couple days ago and he's like i never stopped playing It's so full of cheaters.
Starting point is 00:15:25 40% of the matches are, I think he said 40% of my deaths are cheaters, like undeniable cheaters every time. And, uh, and I played a little bit and I swear to God, Woody, my third scav mission in scav,
Starting point is 00:15:38 uh, game, I find a lead X on woods and I'm like, Ooh, I don't even discover it. Cause I know, because then I'll see it for real i leave the question mark fuzziness over to whatever someone like warped to my position
Starting point is 00:15:50 within 30 seconds and killed me and it was like wait how do you know they worked here i'm out in the middle of nowhere in a field like and it's a scat there's like 10 minutes left in a woods raid and this guy this geared guy like finds me right after i picked it up and had been quiet for 15 minutes or something it just was real sus you just that's the challenge of tarkov like it's a low information environment as a matter of fact like you could be much better on the mouse and keyboard than me but if i have more information i probably win that encounter and um it's just info info info so when you die you're like well shit i one shot to the head i've killed plenty of people one shot to the head and i don't have any cheats i don't even know where i'd find them um so when you when i die that way you can't that's what
Starting point is 00:16:38 it's like to die to a cheater but that's also what it's sometimes like to die to a regular player yeah i i had never seen, I've seen cheaters be jumping and flying around a lot while they shoot. And I always thought, Oh, that's a dead ringer for a cheater. And then I saw a player who does it, a player who jumps and does these crazy jump shots from the hip at range.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And I'm like, all right, well, well, how do you fucking tell now? You know, if this guy can do this. Willers.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Do you know Willers? Do you ever watch him? Yeah. We have Willers on the show oh yeah all right so he has the best parkour scores i know of in tarkov he gets his strength high and i think he likes to maybe even boost and um man fighting him is there's a verticality to it he's jumping on cargo containers If you don't play this game, you can't jump on cargo containers. They're too high, but he knows just what fucking hood to hit.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Land on an antenna. Did you get on a cargo something like that? And he's slick with it. You'd be there for 10 minutes in a private game trying to get up where he is and he does it under pressure like bullets are coming at him and he's off the antenna, turn 180 degrees, catch the window seal
Starting point is 00:17:46 crouch for a millisecond and walk to my left people lose them they're like where'd he go he's in a fight with willers he's standing on their heads i don't understand like what's happening it's a whole different thing fighting him he's very very good at the game and uh yeah they're at it but anyway my point is it's hard to tell who's just very good at the game and uh yeah they're adding but anyway my point is it's hard to tell who's just very skilled like willis who was i can only imagine how many thousands of hours in game he has uh and who's a cheater so the next thing is the kill cam they're adding the kill cam that you can go back to after the raid is complete and you can see what happened to you and report those cheaters that's going to be excellent for getting rid of cheaters
Starting point is 00:18:24 i think and also the arena mode. They're adding like a Call of Duty game mode to Tarkov. So I'm actually excited. I don't know what, probably four on four. I have no idea, though. I'm just guessing. Six just seems like so many Tarkov players in a small arena. But I'm excited for that because it's kind of the opposite of what Tarkov is.
Starting point is 00:18:45 On the kill cam? I'm excited and nervous. I've seen, I don't remember who it was, but it was a well-known Twitch streamer who got accused of cheating. And it just so happens to be he's a streamer, so he was recording the whole thing. And from the other guy's perspective, he phased through a wall and popped out of a thing that you can't do.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And he killed him. And he's like, what? No. Look at it from my perspective. And you can clearly see it was just normal gameplay. Hopefully the kill cam doesn't fuck that up. Because Cod's kill cam often didn't show exactly what happened. It was a weird lag in between.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I don't know. I know exactly what you're talking about and referring to, even that exact incident. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it doesn't match up. It's on interchange, the one I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Oh, I saw one on Woods. And it's always that, you know, their perspectives are just different. But, and again, I don't know anything about coding or the internet really or technology, but you would think that like the server side version would be like
Starting point is 00:19:43 Canon, you know, if that makes sense. We've got the real version of what happened and the real POVs that are synced because we're the server. Maybe? I hope so. Because Cheaters Ruin, I got so down about it because I really do enjoy Tarkov that I googled are there any multiplayer games without cheaters? of that I googled are there any multiplayer games without cheaters? And it was like a top
Starting point is 00:20:05 Google search, I guess. The answer is no. And I don't understand why one of these indie developers doesn't say, hey, we're doing two-factor authentication. You're going to need your phone number and a credit card if you want to play our game. Sorry, that's the way it works. Yeah, all right, sign me up. Hey, by the way,
Starting point is 00:20:21 will you steal the identities of cheaters? Because I'd appreciate it if you would. I want you to take it to that level um i wish they'd do something like that where everybody walked in this door got patted down make sure you know it's like a drug test for uh for for esports i'm thinking about that it what would that do the credit card adds to it because you can buy a burner phone so So if the cost of my, you know, fake ID, how much is the cheapest burner phone?
Starting point is 00:20:50 $10, $30. I don't know. I don't even know. You can probably get a virtual phone number or something like that. They would check out. So that I assume that you can sort of see through, right?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Like, um, is it free text text now? I forget what the free, like there's online texts text numbers you can use. Yes. So that you'd have to just be like, all right, all those numbers, no good. Google numbers, like Google phone, all those fake things.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We don't accept any of them. They have to be tied to a real SIM card and they can tell the difference. All right, cool. But when you bring in burner phones, like, ah, maybe it does get cheap, but it must do a lot. If you do burner phones and a credit card, man, you're making a lot of hoops for cheaters to jump through. You'd think so. But then I see what the cheat, the cheats cost. If you ever go to those websites and they're expensive and it's not like you buy cheats, you rent them.
Starting point is 00:21:38 You rent cheats. It's like dollars per day to operate, to get it to get a key that works and then they also what from you know being on the on those sites and reading through those forums i guess every now and people like hey what happened you know to the thing that lets you run with broken legs it ain't working they're like don't use that or this or the other thing it's all getting banned it's all everybody's getting caught they keep talking about big waves. I know they did a thing. There used to be a cheat, probably still is, that warps all
Starting point is 00:22:10 of the valuable loot to one pile. You basically spawn in the game and you go, give me the loot! And I mean a pile forms in front of you of just the good shit. No toilet paper. All the good shit's piled up. And so what they did to combat that is
Starting point is 00:22:25 they hid loot in walls in rocks a kilometer off the map and if you get any of those goodies and try to extract with them now you're a cheater so that gets not up that gets not only the guys who can work to them but all their friends too so so that's a good idea how does tinder stop people from like just making a new account and breaking rules all the time? You verify your face. And you do it by phone number. So if you want there to be a check next to your name, Kyle's right. You have to hold it up to your face.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And then it's like, yep, this is the same guy. And if you don't do that, you don't have this little check, which I imagine means something. I mean, I know that when I used it, I don't fuck with girls. I don't check. I don't fuck with the non-check people because I'm like, it was so easy. I just looked at it for half a second. And then it was like, you're that guy. Like that.
Starting point is 00:23:16 That's how. So Tinder is probably harder to cheat at. If there was a loot grabber in Tinder where I just teleported all the slim bitches right into my house. I'm like, hell yeah. But like one of them is a robot and then it shocks me and I'm taken out of the game. It's like,
Starting point is 00:23:32 oh man, my dick's not going to work for a week after that shock. Man, I'm in trouble, man. What a, what a hilarious game to cheat on Tinder. I guess cheating on Tinder is just lying about how much money you make.
Starting point is 00:23:51 That's cheating on Tinder. Or how much you weigh you weigh your real hairline yeah yeah you do it badly like in the like with your finger just drawing in i think i may show the show but of course everyone knows what catfishing is it's pretending you're someone you're not but then the other terms were fat fishing which is like chicks using old pictures before they were fat and then hat fishing which is guys hiding their baldness man oh it's so night and day when a guy like some guys look good in hats i don't look in hats i think my head's too too weirdly shaped but some guys look good in a hat and you're like ah you're you sir a strong seven or eight and they take it off and it's. Oh, no. Oh, no. George. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I could rock a nice backwards hat when I was like 19, 17. Today's at 50. Dude, turn your hat around. You stupid fuck. Oh, you are. I do not have backwards hat confidence anymore. There's no world that I would put a hat on backwards and be like, I'm killing it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 The only time in my life that I've been backwards hat confident was when it was utilitarian because you'll flip your cap backwards a paintball to cover your forehead if it's a fit cap. Obviously not that stupid bill shit to cover the top of your forehead. And the same thing in shooting. Sometimes
Starting point is 00:25:03 the bill can catch brass depending on what you're shooting and i said flip that shit backwards for young woody was so confident i'd rock a kango hat at the beach do you know what that is like a fisherman's hat oh i like this yeah yeah well they're not at least at the time they weren't that popular but it's like i work in the fucking sun like i'll wear anything i want i don't know i see people in those hats and like to me that exudes confidence now because i'll just see a guy walking around and there's is it kangle hat is that what they're can't go i think let me see if i and like like a fisherman's cap almost like the loosey goosey one and i really i'm like that guy doesn't give a fuck like that's that's a good look if they're
Starting point is 00:25:46 if it's really an in-shape thing if they're fat wearing it it's like you know do you have other things to to solve maybe it's every now and then i'll be at the gas station and i'll see it more commonly i don't know yeah yeah bucket hat there'll be that group of three or four well-dressed mexicans at the gas station that like they're to the rodeo. They've all got their cowboy hats and fancy boots on. And it's so cute. It's like modern-day dwarves. They're the little Mexicans every single
Starting point is 00:26:14 time. The big Mexicans don't go in for that stuff, the cowboy stuff. It's always the little guys. Yeah, well, I mean, cowboy boots are a great way to boost up your height. If you're a little guy. I forgot to bring lifts to the meetup thing. I went to that shooting event, the demolition ranch,
Starting point is 00:26:35 met a shit ton of people. That was a ton of fun. But man, Harley's enormous. He is a tough guy to take a picture with and not look like a fucking idiot because he really is like he is like i met sam hyde as well and sam's a tall guy harley is noticeably taller than sam like harley is just the only person i saw the entire trip that was taller than harley was that professional wrestler goldberg like that goldberg was there and he's taller though that guy's fucking huge all right
Starting point is 00:27:13 all right or maybe i'm mixing up with another big bald wrestler that's the guy i want to hear more of this but i just want to remark on if goldberg is literally bigger than harley then that is one of the scariest human beings that i can imagine right now because he used to be such a fucking athlete with with those uh those traps and everything on wwe or raw or whatever and i'm telling you harley is gargantuan when he sat down in my car his head almost touches the ceiling oh wow they have a picture like standing next to each other and who knows it was very uneven ground there but there's another one where harley is shorter than him and you can just see the like the width of him and whatnot so
Starting point is 00:27:57 yeah i met chuck liddell that was neat dude that guy has hands. You look like you could take him. Yeah, right. Oh, you look like you could take him. Dude, that guy has hands like a holiday ham. When I shook his hand, it was like, these are the knuckles of someone who's practiced like old boy against a concrete wall and just girthened them up a lot. He's broken them over and over. You can see Wendigoon in the background. Yeah, got to meet a bunch of the boys
Starting point is 00:28:27 that was uh see we Harley came up with this idea he's like hey you guys all sit on the back of this big truck and then I'll take the picture and we'll all look around the same size I'm like that's perfect isn't it great Wendigoon and Harley the same size Wendigoon 10 feet away yeah yeah me Wendigoon and that's uh you know the youtube channel coffee zilla yeah yeah that's coffee zilla super super nice guy i enjoyed talking to him spent a lot of time with uh wendigoon hanging out wendigoon was like my my purveyor of firearms there like i got there right away said hi to him and he's like have you shot anything yet i'm like no i'm like but i want to shoot a tommy gun super duper bad uh isaiah take me over there and so he goes over there i like start to touch a tommy gun and they're like don't
Starting point is 00:29:17 touch it and i'm like all right so then i uh like it was it was unloaded and everything they're all just sitting out because other people were going up and touching them. And so I was like, oh, I guess I can I can do that. I was wrong. Yeah. And then Wendigoon grabs a magazine and is like just starts loading it up for me. And I'm like, this is great. I've got like a shotsman, a bullet king next to a gun caddy.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah, a gun caddy. And so he loads it up for me. I shoot the Tommy gun. And I shot the first seven or eight, trying to hit the little blink, blink, the steel thing. And then the big gun man next to me was like, hold her down. And so I was like, you're right. What am I doing?
Starting point is 00:29:59 I held it down, and that was really cool. It didn't kick as much as I imagined it would. It's like the gun itself was so heavy, like that wood. You shoot them one-handed a lot. I wasn't about to disrespect this guy's Tommy gun. I was going two hands on it. Do you think you could have held it one-handed?
Starting point is 00:30:18 You're a strong guy, but you couldn't. Yeah, I could have held it one-handed. What I wanted to do more than one-handed is I wanted to hold it down to my side with like a cigar in my mouth kind of thing. But that seemed like I'm not about to do that. That seems not the correct move here. And so I shot that.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And then I was just looking around with Wendig and all the other guns. And I'm like, I want to shoot an MP40, man. Like, those are so cool. The two I had on my list was Tommy Gunn and MP40. And I thought like, I want to shoot an MP40, man. Like, those are so cool. The two I had on my list was Tommy Gunn and MP40. And I thought, like, Tommy Gunn was going to be my number one fave because it's the coolest looking thing ever. Like, after I pulled the trigger to shoot the MP40,
Starting point is 00:30:56 like, I almost had to be like, is it on? Is our bullets coming out the end of this thing? Because, like, you could put that, like, rest on the bridge of your nose as you're pulling it. And there's just no fucking movement in it at all. It's like nothing. It was so, so cool. Barrel have a compensator on it. The one I shot did not.
Starting point is 00:31:17 No, they had one with a compensator and one without. And I get someone else was using the suppressed one. And so I threw the the regular one out there, shot that. That one was, that's my new favorite gun. That thing is so cool. Aesthetically, it's cool. It feels cool to shoot. It had one of those, like, fold down and back,
Starting point is 00:31:37 like that thin skeleton-looking shoulder. The MP40? You're talking about, like, a paratrooper MP40? Like, it probably, did it fold under? It folded under, yeah. Neato neato yeah it was super sweet um the other one had a skinny silencer on it maybe it was fatter than i would have thought the the silencer on it yeah it's coincidentally i just got recommended a video of a silenced mp40 like a youtube short of some going and i was like the same fucking anyway i've never shot an mp40 that's pretty neat really oh damn i
Starting point is 00:32:07 figured that would be one you like i was after shooting the tommy got obviously different cartridges but like i was blown away at how quiet and easy to shoot no no discernible kick whatsoever on the mp40 so that was fucking sweet and then those are the only two things i shot it was mostly just like walking around chatting talking to people uh you know talking to when did you drive there harley i flew there i met bam margera afterward at the black rifle coffee guys uh jt from black rifle coffee his like fucking ludicrous compound har Harley was like, hey, well, the first night I got there, I had just landed, hadn't even got to my hotel. And Harley and I had been texting the week leading up to it. And he's like, hey, come to this address. You're filming Epic Mealtime with us.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And so I was like, all right, awesome. And so I just got in the address, went to this like giant fucking place that has a huge gate that has like, of course, the Black Rifle Coffee logo and everything. And so like the Uber drives drives me up there and drops me off. Yeah, there was us at post lunch. Got to hang out with the Million Dollar Extreme, the Sam Hyde crew. There's Sam and Nick Rochefort and Charles Carroll. And that was really neat talking to those. And I talked to the-
Starting point is 00:33:27 You crossed the street if you saw those guys coming, eh? Dude, I saw someone posted that picture. And one of the comments was like, this is the worst dressed group of people I've ever seen. And I was cracking up with that. A lot of character in that group. There's a lot of character. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:33:44 The one on the right with that camel leather jacket and the cigarette yeah that's charles he's he rocks he was he was fun to chat with um but anyway yeah i was i got there the first night and i'm in my head like in the uber on the way over there i'm like fuck fuck i forgot the lifts i forgot my lifts i'm gonna look like a fucking bitch. Do you have them? No. I do have some lifts in there. What's the point now? Amazon.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah, I got them off Amazon. Forgot to bring them. And the first thing I get is like, the gate's open. I'm sitting in the Uber. And this giant Jew barrels out of the gate, giving me a hug and everything. I'm already on camera.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I'm like, I can't. I'm full. I'm full body frame right now. I can't tippy toe it. And so I give him a hug. Go in. I do a little movie magic where, you know, the food had already been largely completed. They just needed me to, like, sprinkle shit around, slam some dough and like roll it out
Starting point is 00:34:43 and do some some of that stuff. Take a shot of Jack. Did that vile? Did that take the magic away when you saw that, you know, it was filmed out of order? No, I'm not retarded. Like I knew that's how it actually would be honest. I will be honest. It did for me.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Really? You know what took it away for me? How bad the food was. did for me really you know what took it away for me how bad the food was like i just what you it's obvious in retrospect but i didn't know it would be ice fucking cold but they make so much food that some of the dishes were finished seven hours ago and have just been sitting around i think they made um like meat sickles or something it was like a a spherical ground beef on an ice cream cone and that ground beef was cooked like yesterday and yeah something most of this stuff is the same way it was like that's a mcrib and chick-fil-a patty bacon lasagna and amir who's uh harley's like chef and one of the main epic mealtime guys
Starting point is 00:35:48 uh didn't know i was gonna meet him that guy is fucking hilarious like genuine did you meet amir when you were doing epic mealtime kyle probably you guys did he is a name so if he was in vermont yeah really really fun guy to hang around skinny guy kind of ethnic ethnic he not skinny anymore he's gained a little little weight but he's he's talking about cultivating trying to get it off yeah he's cultivating mass exactly and yeah so shot the the epic mealtime and everything and then afterward we're just in this ridiculous compound house and harley's like i'll take you on a tour and it's you know obviously you know jt from black rifle coffee's place it is like this guy it has zero percent of what notch
Starting point is 00:36:34 has which is like i got money and no idea how to have fun this guy knows how to have fucking fun i'm like there's a lot of like tire marks clearly in a drifting motion out front of the front of this ridiculous house and harley's like yeah he like drifts his own cars through his driveway sometimes when he gets bored he's like come to the gym unbelievable gym in a giant uh garage where it's like half garage with like some dune buggy. And then the other half is this gym. And the ceiling is probably 25 feet. And there are giant pictures of Mark Wahlberg everywhere. Huge pictures.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah. It's just the Mark Wahlberg gym. It's like the Marky Mark gym. Like, you know, that picture of him in his underwear when he was jacked in early night? That's probably shot. Yeah, that's like 25 feet right over where you bench. It's just Mark Wahlberg there. Like on the ceiling? No, behind you.
Starting point is 00:37:34 That would be funny if he was on the ceiling so when you're looking up at Mark as you're pressing. Dude, there's other pictures of Mark. It's like pictures of him from every movie. So it's like him in soldier gear. Him with war paint and stuff like that. Actually, that's not a bad idea. It was cool.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I'm sorry to interrupt you. Imagine if where you bench, if on the ceiling you had a picture of Arnold reaching down, offering his hand in assistance. Don't you want that now? Like a Sistine Chapel where he's God and man. He's both of them. Yeah. Then he has just incredible setup great backyard
Starting point is 00:38:09 uh little cow wandering around like a cute little cow uh like a mini cow or a little mini cow little little mini cow not a not a small cow like a different girlfriend wants a real teeny one i wouldn't want to deal with it yeah but people have them in their homes and i i don't know how you house train those but you never see one take a big fucking nasty dump in in their fancy living room you just say look children we have a cow that we live with this aren't isn't our life wonderful and i'm like damn that was a cool youtube short and i watched like 30 of them in a row until all of a sudden i'm wanting i grew up with cows all of a sudden i want one in my house for some reason. They're brainwashing me. I've spent so much time around cows in my
Starting point is 00:38:48 childhood. I'm totally indifferent to them because of my grandparents' farm. And then I saw that little one and I'm like, maybe there's something to... No! No! They'll never get me to stop eating beef. If I told you to hit a cow, could you do it? If I wanted to hurt my hand... Could you walk up to a cow? What you mean to ask
Starting point is 00:39:04 is could he count coo on a cow? Could he lay hands on a cow if i wanted to hurt my hand what you mean to ask is could he count coup on a cow could he lay hands on a cow if he wanted to but from and the answer is almost it's not about the violence i can tell yeah if the cow doesn't want me to i'm not going to okay are you not are you do you have some clever trick up your sleeve to get close to a cow i mean the only clever trick as a kid my grandpa would use because like uh they'd all come up to the trough and start eating and then my grandpa would put me on their back and like they were when they're like they don't even notice a fucking six-year-old kid sitting on their back when they're eating they couldn't care any it's like less than a hat to them if you
Starting point is 00:39:39 have sweet uh we called it sweet feed i think that's what it's called yeah i've heard of that it's these pellets of like compressed grains and silage or whatever and then they maybe put molasses or sorghum some sort of sweet stuff and when you crack that bag open and smell it you're like damn that'd be like a good spiced cake or like breakfast like baked good or something it smells good in there you and you taste and it's not sweet enough by far but to a cow they love it so if you have that then you can absolutely like scritch on a cow's head at will you just that's how we would catch them we would get them used to the set we put some in a bucket and shake it and it makes a noise and now we feed them so
Starting point is 00:40:21 the next time you want to come you just need to make the noise you don't even need the food they hear the noise yeah they'll come. Yeah, my grandpa would just shake that bucket and they would all come sprinting. But if you try to go out into a field with wings when we went out in the field, try to get some pictures of him with the cows and stuff for those posters. I've still got a bunch of those posters, by the way. We'll put them with the Tech Tuesday t-shirts. by the way.
Starting point is 00:40:43 We'll put them with the tech Tuesday t-shirts. They, uh, but, but if we had tried, if you go in that field, even if they're mostly docile cows that have never been fucked with, they're not like feral. The idea of touching one is just silly.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Like, no, no, that's a big, fast animal. Like, like third up, you think of a big,
Starting point is 00:41:03 dumb, fat cow that they can run like 30 miles an hour or something. Yes. Yeah. And when I tried to do it, I was more athletic than that. Maybe I was 32 playing jiu-jitsu and hockey and stuff all the time. No chance of catching a cow. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I knew all the cow tipping and all the slapping a cow, hitting it. I knew that was all a meme. It wasn't until I met people later all like the, you know, slapping a cow, hitting it. Like I knew that was all a meme. It wasn't until I like met people later in life that like, I guess, weren't from Missouri or weren't around cows that they're like, yeah, you could just go hit a cow. And it's like, are you have fun? It's not going to be dumb and dumber where you bounce off of it. You're never going to get the opportunity to bounce off of it because it will like what happened. Dumb and dumber. They bounce off a cow.
Starting point is 00:41:46 off of it because it will like what happened dumb and dumber they bounce off a cow they try and do cow tipping and dumb and dumber and they keep like running into it and then just like slipping in the mud and and it's all all goofy and silly yeah yeah good movie but it was a ton of fun going to that event oh yeah for sure um i wish you wish you would be like the amount of people, like number one, like a little ego boost for myself. Like I didn't realize like a lot of people approached me and were like, you're Taylor from PKA. I love the show. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And then that ego got smacked right back down when the previous night, the first thing we did after we like did the epic meal and all that, we left to go to Austin, me, Harley, and a a couple people to go see I guess it was just me Harley and Amir we drove to Austin which is like an hour and a half from where we were because Sam Hyde and his crew were doing
Starting point is 00:42:34 a stand up show at this this venue and so we went there and I meet all of them beforehand and Harley is like I'm like hey hey, Taylor, nice to meet you. And Sam's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, good to meet you. And Harley's like, Sam, or Sam, with his short A's.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm much more used to Harley's short Canadian A's now. He's like, Sam, you talked to this guy for like five hours on his show. You've met him. And Harley's like, oh, like oh yeah yeah I'm retarded I remember and I'm like dude I didn't expect him to recognize me I was it may not even be that
Starting point is 00:43:12 it may not even be that he didn't recognize you it's just that sometimes I'm like pre-programmed to say nice to meet you and then once I realize like we've met like three fucking times and i feel kind of bad but i don't want to be like actually i know that we've met before but my i'm autistic a little so i just pre-programmed these phrases that i've been saying all night and throw them
Starting point is 00:43:34 at you with the main part of my brain is playing games back home where i want to be and i'm sending you like the the guy up front yeah it didn't help that I also fired out a nice to meet you instead of a good to see you. That was wrong. And also like, I didn't like when I got there that night, I'm like, they're,
Starting point is 00:43:53 they're preparing for a standup show. Like, don't, don't ask any questions. Don't bother them. Like they're, you know, I noticed like,
Starting point is 00:44:00 you know, we talked to Sam briefly before the show and Nick and Charles and them, but they're like thinking about what they're about to do on stage. And so I'm like spending most of that time the first night I was like chatting with, uh, with the guys who are in this crew, um,
Starting point is 00:44:12 like Ben and Chris, also very cool guys, but their standup was hilarious. Uh, I'm hoping that Sam, Nick and Charles all put more into their standup, do a lot more of it and, and,
Starting point is 00:44:23 you know, get known for that as well. Cause it was really genuinely very funny. And then it was the next night that was the fucking like what? Like this. This is like a dream of like, you know, like weird mishmashes of people occur in dreams sometimes where you're just like, oh, what's my second grade teacher doing at my 30th birthday? Tony Soprano dreams. Yes, Tony Soprano dreams. And it was like the second night after the shooting day when we went back to JT's place, that awesome compound.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And I was like, this is fucking surreal. Like having a beer with like Sam Hyde and all of those guys. And Bam Margera's here. and I get a picture with Bam the first thing Bam like Harley's like hey Bam this is my buddy Taylor I want to take a picture of you guys and Bam like immediately just like lifts up his pant leg and he's like I gotta show you a new tattoo I've got down here. And he's totally sober now. He doesn't do anything. But he lifts his leg up, and he's got a million tattoos,
Starting point is 00:45:28 so it's hard to zero in on the one he's looking at. And it's just a picture of a baseball bat that has a football on top instead of a baseball, and it just says, Queer as a baseball, a football bat. I'm like, there must be a reference. I don't know. You never heard that before that is very queer yeah wait i can't tell have you heard this is a saying yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:45:51 queer is a football bat okay well then i'm yes it's like saying uh like crook a gay is a three dollar bill or something like that you heard that one oh something or another than a three dollar bill it's it's the same fucking thing but it was cool to hear his like side of the mouth talking in person like because he actually does that and so it was that was neat like talking to bam margera for for a couple minutes uh meeting sam and nick and charles i talked to nick uh rochefort one of the million dollar extreme guys like he's like a major real estate expert does a lot of stuff knows how to increase value in homes and everything and i was like hey if i want to fix i brought up my back patio and he was like like i expected him just to be like oh yeah you should probably do
Starting point is 00:46:39 something about that but he was like no what's your address and so like i gave him my address and he like pulled up my house and was like looking through stuff and he's like, no, what's your address? And so I gave him my address, and he pulled up my house and was looking through stuff. And he's like, no, what you want to do back here is this aggregated concrete thing. And you want to do that in your walkway, too. That's going to be cheaper, and it's going to look better. It's going to weather nicer.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You could dye it different ways. He talked to me for like half an hour about Nick Rochefort. He knows real estate really well he owns a um an antique shop and uh now does a lot of this stuff with sam again that they've gotten the gang back together and talk to him about what it's like running an antique shop he's just a like one of those gift of gab like clearly can just hold it down with anyone uh in conversation so that was a bunch of fun. It was,
Starting point is 00:47:25 it was so much fun. I'm so glad I went to that event, like talking to everyone, chatting, getting to know people, experiencing that fucking compound was crazy. Like that's like level of level of wealth. I haven't,
Starting point is 00:47:39 I haven't been adjacent to ever. So that was pretty fucking sweet. I am definitely going next year if i'm still invited and and so yeah that kyle you would have been yeah i'm trying to sell it you you guys would have had a bunch of fun like you kyle in particular because of your connection with the gun thing you would you would be fucking kenny powers at this thing because like everyone's like is kyle here is fps russia but if i know that that's not what kyle likes i think this is the tell me kyle tell me how close i am kyle scene is this he would like to give and get attention from like nine
Starting point is 00:48:19 people that are there and if everyone else would just leave him alone that's kyle's scene maybe maybe even like like big part of it is like i don't go to gun shoot i'm not i don't think i'm allowed to touch those guns you know what i mean um i don't want to go there i'm not allowed to do that that so going there is not gonna be fun for me in any way and then people oh no we'll get some bb guns for you to shoot oh yeah that'd be that'd be real fun yeah yeah well i'll have a big laugh about it then this isn't like what a vegetarian let's make it my christmas card you know it's it's like i don't think you understand interpersonal skills very well um so so then on top of that it's like there
Starting point is 00:49:02 are some people there it would be neat to meet i I would have liked to have meet Bam Margera. That would be neat. But other than that, I don't want to be shitty and say that I don't want to meet Wendigoon. I would like to meet him. But there are some people there that are like actual enemies. Some of those people hated me for years and gave me guff while I ignored them. But I didn't forget their names. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:24 I didn't get any experience like those guys because i was just being approached by people who were like oh well you wouldn't hear well that's how they would approach you that's how that you know what i mean like they were all positive thing all right nobody nobody walked up and was like his fps russia here and then grimaced no i think oh i don't i don't think that's to him probably oh but yeah he's not i didn't forget i didn't forget 12 years ago when you when you were a shithead to me yeah or tried to be or like tried to like mess with my money in this way or another like i didn't forget and i'm not trying to make beef about it but i've i may have forgiven i just
Starting point is 00:50:01 haven't forgotten and i don't want to go rub elbows with you now that I can't shoot guns. Again, again, it's not anywhere I'd want to be. And also, I do not like crowds. I don't like big crowds like that. There were a lot more people there than I thought. There were booths. Oh, yeah. Don't you like about crowds?
Starting point is 00:50:19 Because I think I'm maybe the same, but I want to hear you phrase it. I think I would get sick for sure. Just breathing all that breathe there. But I don't know. I've just never liked all those crowds at those things, especially if at that place, I'm going to get stopped constantly. And I don't want to do that either. I don't want to take a picture with you, frankly.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I don't mean you, but it's like, no, I really don't want to take a picture with you. No, I'd rather not be on social media today you know like like i'm gonna keep sliding this way but that's not what i'd say because i'm not a piece of shit i'd be like yeah yeah what's your name tell me how you know me let me make up a thing that relates to that and makes you feel special oh wasn't this a great experience you'll remember forever and then i'd have to do it 150 more fucking times because we just made a scene you would be doing that all day i am like a race car with a a good race car with a one gallon gas tank i am i'm loving this crowd i'm genuinely enjoying all the interactions and that'll last for like 30 minutes and then i want to just turn it off and reduce the crowd to the people i like yeah like the the organizers of it like like shout out
Starting point is 00:51:27 brandon herrera and and uh donut operator for the invite really appreciate it guys those guys are cool as shit like brandon in particular because he's doing the political thing my god like constantly like i would i probably only talked to him at the range day for like five ten minutes at most like just chatted for a few minutes. And then it was like people constantly coming up to him, like constantly, like when he was on here just recently, like talking about how much he's out,
Starting point is 00:51:54 fundraised people, like seems like that's continued. And like, he's got a real fucking deal shot at, at doing this, which would be sick. So if you're in Texas, check if you're eligible to vote for him and his area.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I wanted to hear his positions on a bunch of current events, but I didn't do it while he was on the show because I'm not here to gotcha people. Maybe that makes me a bad podcaster. I don't know. I wouldn't want to catch him on anything. I want him to succeed. I want him to make it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 He's a good dude. You know who got gotcha this week just to shift gears slightly is those three heads of harvard those three lovely ladies that went before congress and they had no one one of them um like nothing bad one it's so absurd the the way this shit works it's also crooked so they went before congress and they basically had to answer one of those well-poised post questions. It was like, is calls for the destruction of
Starting point is 00:52:49 Israel and its people, or the genocide, is the calls for the genocide of Jews against the code of conduct on your campus? Basically that. And they all couldn't answer. They're like, oh, it would depend on the context and it would depend on this and it would depend on that. And
Starting point is 00:53:04 there was a huge shit show about it i i i heard they got a billion views total like across all platforms and uh and so lots of calls for those three ladies to be to step down or resign or whatever and one of them was asked to resign it's a million dollar uh a year position not harvard who was it pen you pen is the one I'm most familiar with. The woman's name is Gay. She's not gay, but it's her last name is G-A-Y. Yeah, it's a white lady, and so she had to step down.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I was like, oh, so she lost her job, that million-dollar-a-year job. They're like, well, we wouldn't do that to her. She remains a tenured member of the staff here at the university. We'll find something for her that she'd love to do. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, good. What would you take on it, Kyle? Did you think that she deserved to be canceled?
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah, I think that if you can't take Jew out of it and put black person in it, hey, what do you think about calls for the extermination of all black people? Would that, would that be against the code of conduct in your university? And you say, ah, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:13 it would really depend on the context and, and it would depend on the charter of, and you just start mealy mouthing, dodging my question. It's like, whoa, either you you're, you're dodging my question.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Who are you appeasing right now by doing so, but who the clan, like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Either you, you're dodging my question. Who are you appeasing right now by doing so? But who? The Klan? Like your actual genocide? It sounds like there are a lot of genocidal people that you're trying not to offend right now by saying yes. Because the question was phrased yes or no at the end. Yes or no?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yes or no? And then you go on your diatribe of horse shit your your mealy mouths to um double talk uh it's it's a bad look yeah i thought they should have because the question wasn't should should it it was unequivocal it was like it was like our calls for the genocide of jewish people against your code of conduct. Yep. We don't do that here. It's against our code of conduct here. With white people. Maybe it's my.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Maybe I'm just a moron liberal or something. I'm not sure. What she was trying to say was. You know our code of conduct. Has rules saying that you can't. Attack individual people. I can't that you can't like attack individual people you know i can't even say mean things about like individual people or like tart narrow groups you know three or four whatever but political positions about like global events like you're allowed to
Starting point is 00:55:37 have any position you want oh do you think that the palestinians should go from the ocean to the river or whatever river to the sea um They don't ban that on campus. And I'm thinking like to ban that on campus would be akin to banning being pro-Iraq war or pro-Afghanistan war, like any other war really. I think it would be like banning the phrase it it's it's okay because what it means is all of them all of it is ours and and they're it means from the river to the sea in germany i think in germany it's illegal to say that phrase like against the law law probably river to the sea or yeah okay yeah i know they have a lot of like hitler laws like you can't say
Starting point is 00:56:26 you know we're not going back to that yeah so i i i was like all right so she's sort of protecting global i don't know nebulous i'm struggling with the vocabulary but she's she's protecting sort of speech about yeah are you pro alice palestinian or pro-Israel? That wasn't the question, though. If they'd said, hey, can students on your campus be pro-Palestinian? Absolutely they can. I bet you could have said yes unequivocally. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:55 But they asked, hey, is calling for the genocide of the Jewish people on your campus not against the, but against your code of conduct. It's so easy. It's so easy. They didn't say, hey, should it be a punishable by death? Should we arrest people who call for the genocide of Jews? They didn't ask those questions. They didn't try to like overstep and like make it some new, new reverse Gestapo. And it was from the river.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah, you're right. I have the question. Does calling for the genocide of jews violate harvard's rules on bullying and harassment does calling for the genocide of jews violate bullying her harassment rules and what she was trying to say is bullying and harassment rules apply to smaller groups of people or individuals not entire like countries in the middle east and she didn't answer it well and that it kind of opens up the question because like a lot of these universities have classes that are like we need to eradicate whiteness get rid of whiteness and it's like
Starting point is 00:57:56 okay well then like that's surely not chill like if we're talking about this now like you can't you shouldn't be able to say that about any group you say like eliminate jewishness or blackness or whiteness like that should be taken as like a yeah this this person wants to be rid of that group that's why they're saying it that way yeah they're gonna have to extend if they want to be fair they're bullying harassment rules to lots of group talk and my suspicion is it's going to be okay to fuck with white people but no other groups yeah that's bullshit it's always goes that way yeah we need to be serious about hatred we need to get rid of whites like what the fuck what we do in very related news did you see the the newest polls ah no um is trump higher up than yes yes he is ahead
Starting point is 00:58:48 by up to six points in uh in two states and it was he was behind um no in two polls so these are forgive me forgive me these are um popular vote he's ahead in the popular vote now in all but two polls and those were from a month ago um and all the current data and and all the data that goes back a month and month and a half and stuff like that he was two to six points ahead except for in two of the polls and i think it was monmouth or monmouth whatever however you say that but it was the first time i think he'd been and i and then i saw the way they phrased it was that up until recently it had been more of a Biden decline than a Trump surge. However, this week or this month, they've seen more of a Trump surge, him gaining ground on his numbers rather than Biden just continuing to lose ground, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It'll be interesting. I was thinking about this recently and why this could be woody copium i'm totally open to that idea look at that trump trump trump trump biden head by eight in that one i can't see it very well made it full screen november 31 ends whatever five days ago the more current ones are all trump i see that's right tonight forgive me this is georgia and minnesota i think and minnesota is obviously very key all right so so biden won them both he edged out georgia you probably remember that was the crazy they're having um but he's ahead by double digits in in uh michigan or minnesota whichever it was it was
Starting point is 01:00:21 10 points i've heard that that Biden will struggle to win Michigan without the Muslim vote, which he's not getting because he's so pro-Israel. And I'm like, really? Is he that big a group in Michigan? I mean, I saw it on the internet, so it's true. In Minnesota and Michigan, there are a lot, I believe. Minnesota too, you think?
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah. And they vote. Yeah, the Twin Cities, there's a lot of Muslims. Are they going to vote for Trump? They'll probably just stay home. See, that's the thing. I like to ask Fish for stuff like that because he's there. He lives in Michigan, I'll just say, in a major city.
Starting point is 01:00:56 The shitty... He's in the big shitty one. I'm not going to say... It could be anywhere. It could be the biggest city in Michigan. Yeah. The Red Wings play there. I'm not going to say, uh, you know, it could be anywhere. It could be the biggest city in Michigan. Yeah. But they have the red wings play.
Starting point is 01:01:10 What was called the motor city. But I don't want to talk to him. Oh, but, but I asked him, you know, cause he's, um, like super Arab and,
Starting point is 01:01:18 and you know, that he's from not one of those super Americanized Arab families. Like they're still, they got their magic carpets and everything. Like they're for real. And they're, they're they're they're they're one major world event away from being and i was like how do you guys feel about biden does your dad's talk about this like is he political to your uncles you know and they're like yes everybody's talking shit on biden everybody's about that maga life now oh wow i love it he didn't say the maga life part that's
Starting point is 01:01:49 me having fun yeah yeah all right cool cool so nobody is running against trump right now nobody biden's not running against him because the democrats love fucking maga the only people who like maga more than maga people are the Democrats because the MAGA people get buttfucked every election. They got buttfucked in 2018, 2020, and 2022. Just every time you put MAGA on a candidate's name, they win the primary and they lose the general. It happens again and again and again. Fucking John Fetterman won. Stuttering and barely walking a stroke victim because Trump endorsed Dr.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Oz. Dr. Oz. Right. There was a better candidate. I forget his name now. There was a better candidate, but nope. MAGA went for Dr.
Starting point is 01:02:32 For Dr. Oz. They won the primary and now the general. So anyway, right now the Democrats are not giving Trump a very hard time. They have not focused their guns on them. And for some reason, the Republicans are not.
Starting point is 01:02:46 No one is running against Trump. Everyone's pumping up Trump right now. And is he leading in the polls by between one and eight points? Yeah, probably. But let's see how this plays out. It's not over yet. No one's running against Trump. Trump is going to be slammed, blasted after he gets the nomination.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But as it is right now, they go blasted after he gets the nomination. But as it is right now, they're going soft on him. Of all the candidates out there, Trump is the guy I run against most. He's tangled with the federal court system, the Supreme Court, and like every major media platform just like triangulating their guns on him all day long. For years. Nothing is not running commercials against him. They're not talking about him. They don't even mention his name at the Republican debates.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Like of the Republicans, Trump is going to win that. And like I think nationally, the Democrats would way rather run against DeSantis or one of those guys, because Trump is the only guy that is going to turn out a huge fucking group for the Republicans. Maybe that Ram Swamy, like maybe he'll do something. But I don't think there's no way any of them can. So the reason we're into Ram Swwami here, I bet, at least a little bit, is because whatever it is about our personality as 30-something white men, like, we get a lot
Starting point is 01:04:13 of Ramaswami content pumped toward us. His wheels get shined on my internet constantly. And it's like, must be fucking killing it, right? Look at where he is just in his little like republican pissing contest they're having over there he's second from the bottom only beating chris christie chris christie has like four or five he's got six set zach says seven i don't
Starting point is 01:04:34 believe it you know he pissed on the live stream accidentally he left his mic yes okay live call we like rama swami uh elon musk richest man on the fucking planet uh alex jones and we're doing something on x a big live stream like like audio call and it opens that hits us how the fucking thing begins elon musk saying so um alex i don't um you know know you very well but got to ask that that Hook thing, those awful things you said, that wasn't cool. What's up with that? But at one point,
Starting point is 01:05:14 Ramaswami goes to the pisser, and Elon is trying to say something kind of deep, as deep as he gets, and there's Ramaswami pissing. That's very funny. I like that. Very audibly can't can't be bothered he had to pee right that right just then he had to he had to go he's not a i don't know about you guys i piss on the side if if there's anybody you know around you know on the
Starting point is 01:05:35 side of the bowl you know i'm a silencer um just just out of common courtesy i turn the sink on as well i don't do you oh yeah double up on kurt i feel curious enough just not like making a big splashing noise let me tell you the evolution of my peeing when i was a child i peed on the side and that's not meant to call you a child but that's what i did when i was young i peed on the side and i was kind of embarrassed of the noise i didn't want anyone to know that i was a person that peed it was my secret just me. And my father, on the other hand, peed right in the middle of the bowl. And I would hear that, and I'd be like, listen to that fucking thunderous urine stream. His dick must be huge. So somewhere in my teenage years, I'm like, I got a fucking piss in the middle so that people think I have a big dick too.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And I never stopped. Wow. Interesting. Interesting thought process there. in the middle so the people think i have a big dick too and i never stopped well interesting my thought about like if i'm just at home by myself i'm gonna pee wherever but if like i'm at a house party or something and people are waiting outside and i'm peeing in there i feel like it's almost rude for me to go center bowl, thunder pee when you can just aim for that. And also, I don't know about you guys. There is something that I kind of like having to aim at while I'm peeing. And so you try to hit the side, and then as the stream weakens, as you lose pee, it obviously starts to get closer to the middle again.
Starting point is 01:07:01 But then you have to readjust your dick angle to keep it always hitting. Oh, I'm a ghostbuster. You're a ghostbuster. I'm not going to lose it. You get in here. Just don't cross the street. In Tarkov with the AK, you know exactly the direction your dick goes. So you're canceling all of that with your mask.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I feel like that is, I've never turned on a faucet to hide that pee. You're an even higher level. You're a higher level of courteous. In my house. That never occurred to me to do. In my house I do. I thought the peak of courteousness was pissing on the side of the wall.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Apparently not. I need to re-up on my proper behavior. If I wanted to up my courtesy, I'd probably turn on the exhaust fan. That one. One, I don't know if i'm leaving a urine smell behind probably not but it would take care of that and it would be a i don't know plausible deniable if i'm leaving behind urines if i'm leaving behind urine smell i want people to let me know because i've got a problem what if you had asparagus all right well i wouldn't eat i literally don't eat asparagus just because
Starting point is 01:08:06 of the the pea smell i love a little asparagus i just i like to eat it but i don't like how disgusting my piss smells just all night and all day the next day it's awful i don't know jackie feeds me asparagus sometimes and uh like i'll be in the bathroom peeing. And it's like, I am not asking her to drink my cum tonight. There would be an act of cruelty. Cause I know there's no way there's zero bleed over here. Let's not be ridiculous. Like some of that Aspergren or whatever it is, is seeping into my sperms.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It might be making them more powerful, more virile and much stinkier. That's where my courtesy comes out. Yes. We can probably wrap up there. If you want to play that lethal company game, I'll download it. You want to play tonight or tomorrow night?
Starting point is 01:08:55 I might be down tonight. I got to get dinner worked out. Are you going to be playing tonight? If you get it. If you get on and want to play, I'll get on and want to play. Okay, cool. I'll start that download. Night, boys.

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