Painkiller Already - PKN 507

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn 507 what's up boys you've been following uh you've been following drake and kendrick lamar's little beef pretend i haven't even for a second and and you need to pretend i've heard of it but never listened to any of the songs oh man that's a mistake um okay so basically uh like super duper long story short they're going at each other and uh kendrick lamar is is calling drake out for being like a pedophile and for fucking around all these young girls and for you know being a race traitor and not really black and a few other things and then drake he doesn't own up to or something yeah is drake known for chatting with underage girls? Oh, big time. Big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the raps have been so good from Kendrick Lamar, especially.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm definitely Team Kendrick on this. It's just to the rap, it's the diss track or whatever. The screen, the video is just a top-down view of Drake's mansion, but it's got those bubbles on it for sex offenders. Like if you're looking for sex offenders in your area, it's like his, it's his mansion full of sex offenders. And he,
Starting point is 00:01:10 it's really good. It's, I've been enjoying it a bunch. The, they're both doing such crazy business from this thing that it's like, man, if y'all didn't orchestrate this, you should have.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Who's winning? Oh, who cares? He's, Kendrick's definitely winning like the war of words but drake is winning the war of attention because uh it seems like he's like number one trending he's on he's on a lot of charts he's doing real well they're both making crazy money from it and they'll both like make new fans from it so it'll be a good thing business
Starting point is 00:01:42 wise unless you know it turns out drake like actually had sex with an underage underage girl because everybody's you know it's all it's that thing we always talk about how all of a sudden you got a bunch of people out there um she was 16 that's not pedophilia and they threw up that fucking definition and then the next tweet is like my girlfriend left me after seeing that tweet i don't know what state they're doing this in but in north carolina 16 year olds can have sex with anybody sure yeah yeah well not anybody i think it depends i think there's some statute there even if they've got some sort of position of power over them right like if it's your girl scout leader and you're 16 and he's you know a grown man it's like well you have like a an influential position of power over this person not necessarily
Starting point is 00:02:25 like boss and underling but just an older person in a position and student yeah i'm not sure on well it varies by state so it's really hard to and they're in canada or he's in canada drake is yeah it further complicates it i i'm sure he i'm sure he's done his pedophilia in many lands, though. It's just a different conversion rate. I remember one guy, he married a girl under 18, and it was legal in his state, but they met in some other state and stayed in a hotel on the way home. You knew that? And that was why he's in jail.
Starting point is 00:03:01 They put him in prison because for one night, they stayed in a hotel or motel in a state where you're not allowed to. How did that get out? Like what? What were they doing in the hotel? They get in trouble. I don't remember how it got out, but I just remember the facts of the case. Her parents definitely called, right?
Starting point is 00:03:18 I didn't consider that. You need somebody pushing issues like that. It's so rare that you've got some like deputy sheriff who's on a mission to get you it's not like the movies you know these guys are fucking minimum wage employees sitting in their cars all day they don't care but if a parent is like he's kidnapped my daughter and then maybe some waves take action that makes it's crazy that it'd be your wife though like like it is pretty sus marrying a 15 year old 16 year old because you know it's not the 8th century anymore or even the 18th century and that guy was just arguing to marry children
Starting point is 00:03:53 because they're ripe and fertile did you guys well they are ripe and fertile look that's a man who speaks his mind you know he's a politician you gotta up your information diet yeah no the the republicans in vermont or something are arguing right now to make child marriage legal because these young girls... These kids should be changing their gender with hormones, not getting married. Yeah, because they're ripe and fertile. Here, let me see if I...
Starting point is 00:04:18 We'd have a better society if we did that, for sure. If we had everybody getting married younger? Oh, yeah, big time. Like our grandparents did? No, Kyle, it just happens. That's how people getting married younger. Oh, yeah. Like our grandparents did. No, Kyle, it just happens. That's how people did it throughout all of human history. Do you know how old your grandparents were when they wed? Shit, I know my grandma had my mom when she was 20.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And that was her first child? Yeah, only child. There you go. That was probably totally normal back then yeah the average age for a woman to have children now is 30 20 isn't even like wild now i don't think like i know people at 20 like who have kids you know but the average third yeah average definitely way higher than that but i don't like 20 is like some people are getting married and having kids at 20 that's not like a head. He was arguing for 16 year
Starting point is 00:05:05 olds to get married. Yeah, that's that would not be a better society. These are like I feel like you conflated the issue by being like, you know, your grandma had a kid at 20. So this is cool. No, he is arguing right now in 2024 that 16 year olds should be able to
Starting point is 00:05:21 get married because 16 year olds are ripe and fertile. They are ripe and fertile. Didn't say to who in the article I saw. To men, I assume. Older men, you would hope. Other people. Well, you wouldn't want two 16 year olds getting married or a 16 year old and a 20 year old married.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But if you had like a 30 year old man and a 16 year old, that makes a lot of sense. That'd be a happy marriage where you'd have. Oh, yeah. I'm sure that marriage is going to work out great. And that girl is not, I wouldn't have served 16. She's stupid. She's a child and she's not at all ready to be married.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So she should go out and get ran through for the next 10 years. You guys have argued that you can't take out a student loan at 18 years old. I have. Now you're arguing that you can have a 16 year old getting married to some guy in his thirties. I mean, our grandfathers fought world war II at 16 years old, some of them. I don't get it. If that's true, all right, this is obvious bullshit, and you're trying to get my goat.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Which part's bullshit? I don't know. Is there a piece of what I said that you don't care for or think is not accurate? I think that 16-year-olds shouldn't be getting married, and I think you think 16-year-olds shouldn't be getting married. Why do you think 16-year-olds shouldn't get married? What is the alternative? Because it is too young to make a lifelong decision like that. You married at...
Starting point is 00:06:34 18 is a thing. I married at 23 or 24, something like that. So you don't like the 16 age, or you don't like the potential? But you kind of decided that you were going to get married for a while. If you were financially secure at 19, you'd have probably went ahead and pulled the trigger. Absolutely not. I was financially secure at 19. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Pretty much. I worked for my father as a junior accountant, and I lived on my own. Okay. But not regularly. I could afford to support myself. I couldn't afford to support a family i'm suggesting that you're funny when i say financially secure i don't mean surviving that's bare minimum i mean like yeah what am i gonna do with all this extra money well let's do this what am i gonna do with
Starting point is 00:07:14 it there is a i said like one of my requirements for jackie to get married is what happened was when i hit the working world and i sort of grew up and discovered my ambition and changed a bit so i was like jackie i want you to grow up to get a grown-up job she was an admin assistant in some parts sales company and uh and just want to make sure that like if you change like i did that i still like that new version of you so she grew up she got a grown-up job with health insurance and then after like nine months of that i proposed yeah i think it would be better off for society for sure if 16 year olds were getting married if people were having kids younger it would objectively be better for society not just that not just because they're getting married younger
Starting point is 00:07:56 just because they're not you know doing whatever people do in their early 20s instead of making a family and getting their life going and moving forward. Now there is a, what are we waiting for? Extended adolescence now where it's like, I'm only 29. I'm just a kid. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:08:13 no, no. Like you, it beyonds past. Like you'd already have like children. You'd, you'd like be in the middle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 No one's. And it's funny. You said we had kids earlier. It's like well i i could probably get on board with that because a lot of people are waiting into their 30s but uh we're conflating this issue of 16 year olds having children children having children this is wrong you don't like the fit because in today's society we're not native americans where at 16 years old you kind of knew everything you needed to know to like survive and fucking
Starting point is 00:08:45 chase down Buffalo. Nowadays, it takes training and education into your twenties to be able to navigate today's society. And who better to give you that than the man, your adult husband, your adult husband. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 This is Kyle. Kyle has left the church of Kyle. I don't know who runs that thing. Oh, I'm not doing it. No, no, no. This is Kyle coming out as Muslim. I'm playing devil's advocate for Western society. Kyle wants to keep talking to those dumb 20 year olds and 22 year olds.
Starting point is 00:09:19 They've got plenty of time. Kyle loves that system. Because I mentioned the church of Kyle. No, no, no, no, no. You didn't listen. Kyle is advocating for society when he says those things about 16-year-olds. If I advocate for Kyle, I say, oh, plenty of time, girls. Run wild in the streets.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Hey, you don't know what you like yet. And who's a man to tell you, get out there and pop that pussy, 22-year-old girls. Oh, for sure that's my take now we're seeing eye to eye Kyle but then you know nobody might want you because you're a ran through piece of garbage after a few Kyles have had their hands on you right
Starting point is 00:09:57 that is a risk that is a risk would you want to marry a lady Taylor who 8 Kyles had had their hands on 8 Kyles 8 Kyles had had their hands on? Eight Kyles? Eight Kyles. No. In eight years.
Starting point is 00:10:09 No. Probably not. Nobody would. Nobody would. I don't think so. Unless you've already got herpes. I was going to make a joke about that, and I was like, this is a good opportunity for you to be quiet. Oh, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Don't worry. Just a pill fix, right? I just, you know know i think if you ask people what their goals are sometimes like people ask me hey what for advice on something i'll say well what are your goals and you'll find out what their goals are it's like whoa what's a glad thing you good thing you told me what the goals were because that completely changes the advice if your goal is to you know have a traditional marriage i think what i said stands but if your goal is to you know have a traditional marriage i think what i said stands but if your goal is to have some sort of modern marriage where we're going to have two incomes and then we're going to let strangers raise our children who may or may not you know
Starting point is 00:10:53 diddle them and ruin them for the rest of their lives or something like that yeah then oh yeah girl power you could say that like the fact that two 18 year olds getting married and like having kids young isn't a possibility because of financial pressures and home ownership and low income and job whatever the case may be that's more of an indictment on society than on 218 like as if 218 year olds having kids is wrong like that it's been normal to like it's not biologically wrong but i feel like as society advances it takes longer to get the societal training to thrive in it. Right. If you back up, like I said,
Starting point is 00:11:31 400 years to where we're like native American Indians chopping down trees and making teepees, then you don't have to go to a university and get a good job and get health insurance and all that shit. I don't think we got that far, frankly. Well, I kind of made it extreme. Especially for women. Right. All you need to do is be hot and spread your legs. job and get health insurance and all that shit i don't think we got that far frankly well i kind
Starting point is 00:11:45 of made it extreme especially for women right all you need to do is be hot and spread your legs you just no i just need to be able to have what i'm from households i'm sorry taylor i didn't hear your words i was saying you'd need to be able to have single income households again where you could like have a job that didn't require a boondoggle university degree that a lot of people get just to have the degree they don't use anything from it and you know if you could if in 1940 if you're a fucking mailman at 19 and your 18 year old wife is pregnant it's like they they were gonna be fine still mailman's still a pretty good job you know you get you get benefits and i just picked the job off the top of that out of a hat that you don't hate it when that happens like yeah but like i read it starts like 65k a year or something and it's like dude you're
Starting point is 00:12:28 delivering mail for four hour four or five hours man policeman fireman these all these jobs still have like professional pay hi waiting waiting too long for kids and high levels of childlessness are bad the fireman thing's interesting because there's it's such a weird work schedule, you know? And there's so much of it that you're just chilling, which I bet when you're chilling, side hustles are rampant. Like, yeah, we're in the firehouse building tree houses that we sell to this. Or we're in the firehouse running our, like, pyramid scheme or whatever, you know? My father-in-law was a fireman. And their schedule was, like, three days on, three days off, two days on, three days off.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It wasn't that it was about that. And it's like, how many days a week is that? It's like three days a week. They were long shifts, but I think they tended to work like 36 hours a week and many of them were spent sleeping. And most of his coworkers had side hustles, you know, gigs, handymen, car repairmen, etc. My father-in-law didn't. And I know that he caught a lot of heat around the house for just enjoying his light schedule. I know that small town cops get paid nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I know that in the NYPD, you have a secure career. I don't know what the middle ground is though like the average you know if you're just uh a state patrolman here in georgia for example like those guys that were clearing out the commies at emory university the other day i don't know what that guy makes about 50 zach saying that checks i suppose i know but like i said in in my small town i had 60 to 100 according to glass door i don't know there's a big gap yeah yeah well there's a big gap probably you start around 60 and you get to around 100 yeah you know i don't know they were getting nothing in my small town and they had i just remember my buddy was
Starting point is 00:14:18 it was like 14 an hour or something you? And then he was responsible for like washing and the upkeep of his car, like his, his bumpers hanging off on his patrol vehicle. And he's the one that needs to get it fixed. If it's going to get fixed, you know, shit like that. Some of those jobs though, you never get fired. And I feel like that should have, that should be priced into it. Teacher, cop, fireman. I don't know anything with Anything with a union, though, right?
Starting point is 00:14:46 One of the reasons I'm so anti-union is I've seen what it does to the teaching in particular. It's like, there are people here who need to be fired. Kids are more retarded than ever. Oh, for sure. And teachers are asking for more money. Really? really name it woody if you were an accountant at a firm and you just every quarter you're you're handing in information that's not only inaccurate but damaging to the company and and then you take summers off and then you're like i deserve more money so get the fuck out of here the numbers
Starting point is 00:15:23 you're giving us are so baffling. Like we can't even make conclusions. It's so tricky to measure teachers, right? So like on one hand, I do wish they didn't have job security and that they had to perform like everyone in the private sector does. So we're on the same team there. On the other hand, if I measure dentists by how good their patient's teeth were, I think you could poke a lot of holes in that, right? Some guy in freaking Chapel Hill, North Carolina would look like a star, right? This is one of the highest like advanced degrees.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I think it should be worse than firing. Some guy in West Virginia would look like a terrible dentist, but is it really the dentist keeping the teeth clean? No. So I think they should come in. I mean, yeah, there are dumb kids. I think they should come in and test a graduating class. A third party should.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I think they should come in and test a graduating class. A third party should. And if these people who think high school was about to graduate, it's already, here's his diploma. Got it printed out, huh? If they're not up to snuff in specific areas, it seems to me that high school's committed fraud. It seems to me they have defrauded the child and defrauded the world that they're throwing the child into.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That seems like some sort of criminal negligence. If you're about to make it firefighter training all of a sudden, and you come in and check and like, all right, everybody put your masks on. And like half of them, and one of them's like, I can't read. I don't know what a mask is. He's like, well, you guys are about to graduate firefighter training. You're going to go into a burning house next week, maybe. They're negligent. They go to jail. I think it's the same thing for a high school teacher. They graduated me. You graduated a lot of people
Starting point is 00:16:52 that didn't even graduate. But it still holds true that so much of it is based on the house and the parents. It's huge. Yeah. I mean, there are kids who are dumb and they're never going to learn no matter what teachers they have but there has to be a better way to gauge teachers than just like school board meeting where the teacher was spending three three days a week on um gender studies it was third grade that's's wild. Third grade.
Starting point is 00:17:25 She said they're eight years old and 60% of their time is spent on sexuality. Why are we even saying sexuality in front of them? Are they all making A's in math and geography and English?
Starting point is 00:17:38 That's incredible. Unbelievable. So we as a parent group went to that teacher. You know what she did? Through subterfuge, she went around our back and continued to teach three days a week sexuality studies. There are whole movements within teacher unions
Starting point is 00:17:54 that are like, keep parents out of the classroom. We're the professional teachers. Don't let them know what we're up to. I have a friend who's on a school board because he has young kids who are school age, and he has showed me books they have in their library where he's like, dude, I never thought I would be this guy that goes to and is on the school board now. But they're trying to they're like got books about like trans kids in the library in St. Louis County, like not the most left place in the world, more left
Starting point is 00:18:26 than, you know, obviously the rural areas of Missouri, but like he's like, yeah, this shit's absurd. We're not talking about Rhode Island. I don't know. What's the most left place in San Francisco? Okay, that's a good one. Yeah. And so he's like, this is absurd. Like the priorities.
Starting point is 00:18:42 They just fuck the kids. All right, everybody, get naked. Yeah, I put your kid on puberty block. Water-based l. Alright, everybody, get naked. I put your kid on puberty blockers. Water-based lube here, silicone-based here. Who can spell silicone? No, Tommy, that's silicon. Bend over.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Smart people mix those up, I'm just saying. Silicone's what's going to go in your chest, Tommy. When you're 16 and fully able to make that decision. But it's still, I'm just trying to come back to this deal. The families are 70% responsible for how well the kids do. 16-year-old ladies who want a trad existence can't get married. Yeah, you can't be in favor of the trans kid thing
Starting point is 00:19:21 and also think young people are too immature to get married. I agree with you there. The trans kid thing and also think like young people are too immature to get married i agree with you there the trans kid thing is fucking absurd yeah like that is that is a uh a good weather vein i've found of whether or not someone is like too far gone if they're like if someone can like with honest eyes look at you and be like yeah that five-year-old knows he's a little girl and shouldn't go through puberty because he has a mom with borderline personality disorder. And it's like, no, no, you can't be around kids. Sorry. The trans kid thing is fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I'm with you. That's doubly true when we're talking about irreversible shit. If some boy wants to put a dress on, I don't like it. Maybe keep it in private. I don't know. Just call it a kilt. Yeah, don't do that yeah call it a kill go that way uh but when we start doing stuff that like impacts the way their body develops i can't
Starting point is 00:20:13 stand it yeah like they called out marjorie taylor green or whoever it was the other day and it's interesting how they chose to attack her they're like marjorie taylor green's disgusting and bizarre commentary on 11 year old's genitalia. Look at what she said. No, an 11 year old's orgasms. And it's like what she said is if you cut that boy's penis off and give him a neo vagina, then that person is going to grow up and never have a real sex life. That's basically what she said. Like you're taking orgasms away from that person, creating a wound between their legs that will never heal.
Starting point is 00:20:47 TG and I have found common ground. It didn't take long. I'd be disturbed if he didn't have common ground. Yeah. There are people out there who think that's like, OK, and they have institutional power. I wonder if it'll come back full swing, you know, something will happen and and it'll and people will wake up to it or maybe it'll just go out of vogue because it's all about being stylish that's all it is it's a it's about being cool if you look at how many like hollywood celebrities like big ones their their sons or daughters now
Starting point is 00:21:20 it's like whoa y'all are way above the normal percentage here this isn't 0.2 percent of the population it's like and i saw i saw that panel the other day where like out of five women two of them were trans women that's how y'all want to be represented yeah that's yeah i don't know i could be wrong on this in my in my observation the whole trans thing is a tiny little corner case issue that we've made into like a giant cultural cornerstone that's not even true yeah it's crazy it's such a tiny tiny percentage of people who have this this thing going on and i just don't know why we're uprooting traditional society to appease the tiniest minority amongst us why everyone has to get in line and and and has to say their words if a religion was suggesting any of this there'd be burning buildings down and every society has
Starting point is 00:22:21 religious it might be i'm not getting out of the house because i haven't had to say any words really no there's no compelled speech in the u.s yet that's for now just a canadian thing it's just a makes-believe complaint no well it's like it seems like the conflict you're gonna go before hr if you're in a corporate environment it's just something we don't have to deal with right like yeah that's maybe if you were cisco and your project manager was was trans and and and you got the wrong pronoun out one day, you know, or like you're typing away at 100 words per minute and Miss Carl comes along and Miss Carl is like, Listen, you got to call me a girl. Yeah, maybe you're right. When I was in a corporate environment, it didn't exist at all but that was 15 years ago uh yeah i wonder and i'm sure it varies by corporate environment i
Starting point is 00:23:10 have a friend who works in a in a tech environment and uh they do their pronouns at the start of meetings and it drives them crazy my friend is not that guy he's like a army guy and but uh i'm like i don't know what the norm is if you just work at some regular company like pepsi or geico are they doing pronouns nowadays oh yeah a company that large like you think so oh yeah the larger the company the more dei like diversity equity and inclusion stuff they have ham-handedly forced on the employees like if you're at a mom and pop shop like people aren't gonna put up with that because it's not organic to put up did they do that where you worked i don't know how big the company worked no it wasn't wasn't big enough there wasn't any of that but
Starting point is 00:23:53 like when i would go on uh like calls to like a walmart or a cvs a walgreens whatever like those companies were big enough that they did shit like that like they would have like if you had a trans manager or something and you accidentally it all depended on the level of offense that that individual chose to take a minor indiscretion would be enough to destroy you like if they so choose i'm actually all for calling someone their new name right if you're married and you want to go by mat, whatever, just let me know. I could care less. I don't want to be compelled to. I want to be asked to.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah. And we all see the difference, right? Get out of your car right now! Sir, would you please step out of the vehicle? Right, yeah. There's a difference that I can issue with. You yell at me. I'm not getting out of this motherfucker even if I want to. I just like the way I've seen the media like like going back to the don't say gay not like hokum propaganda
Starting point is 00:24:50 nonsense where they pretended it was like way more extreme than it was like you have activists who are like we want private special access to kids away from their parents to talk to them about tantric sex and then you have people on the other side being like no that's tantric sex i don't know like like trans stuff and and like have you seen some of the books that they have in children's libraries like it's my understanding is like experimental kind of stuff uh no but i know what you meant so it doesn't matter what i meant was they have books in libraries aimed at five six-year-olds that are like oh this is about safe sex and it's like no it's not it's like teaching a seven-year-old how to eat ass and
Starting point is 00:25:36 suck dick like this is despicable and ghastly and then you would have people then you would have like just as a point of tantric sex is a slow meditative form of sex where the end goal is not orgasm but instead enjoying the sexual journey and sensations of the body okay then i'm literally correct based on some of the stuff i saw in these books my buddy showed me and i saw online where it's like this is how like these these were not sex ed books that are like this is how to avoid stds wear a condom was like, here's how you eat someone's ass. But I think you're missing the core of it. It stems from a sort of spiritual ancient Hinduism place,
Starting point is 00:26:14 not a monad. Regardless, we're missing the forest for the trees. We're trying to have a four-hour orgasm. The way it was covered was like, people were demanding access to other people's kids to talk about like advanced sex stuff and gay sex and how to, how to eat ass, how to suck dick,
Starting point is 00:26:33 how to do this and have anal. And you lost me. They should be teaching this in schools. No, I shouldn't be teaching this. Some people don't know this. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:43 you know, anal sex is normal sex. And then you had, uh, then you had uh then you had what i call consider normal people being like ew like what the fuck why do you want to talk about this with other people's kids in private you google like you realize you're like when someone tells you hey it's integral to my identity that i have private access to your kids to talk about my sexual proclivities listen to that person they just told on themselves that person's trying to save you from a toothy blowjob that person's like you need
Starting point is 00:27:09 to appreciate them cool and then then like normal people responded to this by being like you like stay the keep this shit away from kids this is disgusting like normal people have a have a disgust response to this and the media's response to that was like check out these right-wing nazis who are obsessed with kids genitals and it's like no you're the ones obsessed with it we're telling you to cut it out like stop so yeah it's funny like i feel like uh we're both talking about the extremes right that joe biden doesn't want this to happen and he's the leader of the party trump today while stormy daniels was testifying that he fucked her added banning porn to his platform and i'm like banning porn or online like certification before you can log into a website protect children from being exposed to
Starting point is 00:27:58 filth banning porn it's like no more pornography that's what it? We're going to arrest the pornographers? And the porn stars? I think it's probably talking about watching it today. I mean, that is a policy that some people have. They want to ban pornography. Trump aid promises to ban promises ban on pornography.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Is that clear enough? Well, now I'm hearing it's an aid. I said he added it to his platform. What Trump doesn't write is on platform. Well, I need to do the platform to me. It specifically lists a ban on pornography, stating that it's as addictive as any illicit drug and psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned there.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's clear. But where is someone said that there's one wrote yeah it's they added it to his platform today so okay so it's on his website uh yes i saw it printed but i didn't it didn't zoom out enough to see the difference though right on do you see that you're apologizing for this guy? I'm trying to determine exactly what's happened and you're trying to hide it from me. It's not banned in your state. You just have to age gate it, right? You have to give them your ID.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You have to give them your... In my state, you need a federal ID and tell them who you are before you look at porn. Privacy's gone now. So then, like, it's not banned. But you act like it doesn't impact you if you're over 18 no you need to provide your ID yeah and this guy today wasn't talking about age gating it you're conflating this protecting the children with banned pornography because they don't think that you're adult enough to handle it. They think it's psychologically destructive and addictive and want to ban
Starting point is 00:29:49 porn and imprison people who make it. Well, what I'm hearing is that there's two policies that are quite similar that are anti-pornography that are right wing. What I'm trying to determine is which one was thrown out there by a guy to quote you on. I didn't say an age. Okay. Oh, at one point you by a guy, to quote you, on Trump. An aide.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I didn't say a guy. An aide. Okay. Oh, at one point you said a guy. Then it was an aide, has added it to his platform. I want to believe you. And then once I believe you, I will say, that's bullshit. They shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's free expression. But before I can agree with you, I have to know it's true. I wish you lived in my environment, right? So now it's like, Trump aide is do that. It's free expression. But before I can agree with you, I have to know it's true. I wish you lived in my environment, right? So now it's like Trump is saying that it was added to his platform was what I saw in a video. I'm only as good as my sources. In my state, you can't get to these sites anymore unless you give them your driver's license. Different issue. Like these are real impacts, though.
Starting point is 00:30:42 We're related. I don't think they are. I think they're the same category. What I'm trying to say is, the thing where you have to show your ID, I don't like it, but I understand it. This is the slippery slope of basically imposing a Christian Sharia law. That's like saying that requiring ID by secretaries. Kyle, imagine if social media companies bended under pressure from political parties in election seasons. We show ID for any number of things online. show our id for for any number of things online i don't want them to
Starting point is 00:31:10 make me show id for pornography i don't want that however i understand the people who do they are not uh they they don't like pornography it is a problem i want the problem to stay though do you see my point like it is evil it is wrong our society would improve if it were gone pornography this is i truly believe all that but i like it yeah don't take my vice away daddy government that's my stance but it to say it's been added to his platform to to to make pornography essentially illegal that's i just want to nail down that he really did that the same way i wanted to nail down that he really called dead veterans losers or whatever like like if he said that i need to see it i need to know i don't want to hear some hearsay i don't want to say oh it was one of it was a guy who works
Starting point is 00:32:00 for him was on a talk show or a podcast and they said i want to see donald trump either say it or add it to his website yeah you know they've got the website with like their platform and it'll be like i remember joe biden's was there was marijuana stuff they were like holy shit joe biden put it right on his on his platform on his web you go back um i agree with what you're saying kyle and that like i like it is that pornography is a negative for society but like it's all involved I don't know what the answer is there can be bad things it's good for it's good to
Starting point is 00:32:33 like you don't want kids looking at it like it's unbelievably damaging for fucking 10 year olds 11 year olds to have on on just you know just total access basically to this rough sex that you can find online for free like that's that's a negative that poisons their mind in and not towards having a healthy adult sex life like it's it's bad and so there needs to be something
Starting point is 00:32:59 done with how prolific the internet is to prevent children from accessing this this content same reason that like youtube doesn't let you put fucking gore and horrific stuff that a 10 year old could come across so you know how on your television you can block certain channels right yeah kids can't get to it if you were if they were arguing that devices should have a kids mode that is easy to put it into i wouldn't fuss right like oh this kid's motor can't access all these websites etc um but when the government starts telling you like restricting your freedoms because they think they know what's right for you that's bad and that's where the republicans are right now that's what they're doing with like who's moving the the goal line on pot i think
Starting point is 00:33:42 who's moving the ball down the field on marijuana? Democrats right now, for sure. Yeah. And Missouri got it starting to come. Well, federally he's speaking federally. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Trump was president for four years and he didn't make any progress on that issue. As a matter of fact, he reversed progress. Obama was not prosecuting for crimes. And then Trump
Starting point is 00:34:00 was like, now let's lock up those potheads. And he did. So that's that's Trump's take on this. I don't like the government being my nanny. It's understandable, too. I don't know what the right answer is, but you can't just have 10 year olds with unfettered access to hardcore pornography. We do. I like my answer generation. I like your I like your answer, too.
Starting point is 00:34:23 We do. I like my answer generation. I like your I like your answer, too. But it's it's I don't I don't think it's feasible, technologically speaking and socially speaking, because we all every see when I went to school and like. We had cell phones when I was in high school and it was brand new fucking not everybody did like kids whose parents could afford phones or if they I don't even know if that family plan had happened yet where you could get like five phones or four phones and it was like oh four phones for 180 that's crazy i don't know what that happened yet so phones you're giving your kids something expensive that was fragile as fuck i had a sony ericsson you drop that thing it dies not i had one of those yeah the nokia yeah thank you yeah i had the son Ericsson. It was silver and it had an oval at the top and it was square at the bottom. Anywho, nobody could see that thing. That thing was
Starting point is 00:35:12 basically like a don't ask, don't tell piece of contraband. We know kids have phones, but we better not see that thing. Not at lunch. You would have that thing in your crotch low looking at it if you were doing anything if you were going to message or or if your mom and it would always
Starting point is 00:35:30 be like you know your mom's texting you hey to be clear is this even lunch break anytime like you can't have it out anytime it's contraband at school now it's yeah oh that's how it was in my high school what are you doing with a cell phone you're here to learn right because it also the cell it wasn't a smartphone all it did was call and text people you don't need that thing you know so now everybody's got their phone fucking out fucking with it all day long it seems like man it'd be so easy for a 13 year old to like like one kid's gonna have the porno like there's gonna be that shitty kid with porno and he's like here here's the porno and and look that's how it was done back in my day magazines were shared and it was harder to do you it was there's gonna be a cool stuff they show now
Starting point is 00:36:11 there's gonna be a cool older brother who's like the 13 year olds like you can't look at boobies anymore they put that like dude three letters for you v p n it's like like like it's technology's gonna go around it one way or another, even with their law. We all know, like, like can't stop it. That the idea of stopping it is really just appeasing the far right, making sure they get those votes.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And, uh, and that's it because it's, even if they do the thing, you just use a VPN or you go to a different website. It's only the only websites who have went along and like boycotted or whatever. And so,
Starting point is 00:36:44 no, we won't do this. It's like that only websites who have went along and boycotted or whatever and said, no, we won't do this. It's like that big corporate giant umbrella one, and that's not good pornography anyway. That's shit pornography. For those who don't know, maybe y'all didn't notice, but Pornhub went from 900 million
Starting point is 00:36:58 videos to 4,000 videos a few years ago. And the 4,000 videos are suddenly lit so well oh it was because they were like getting in trouble right they were like they were hosting tons of revenge porn and child porn and then like taylor said i've heard it was revenge porn you know motherless does the right thing you could put anything you want on motherless and they'll turn you into the fbi and you'll go to jail when you do it and they take any any anytime someone complains they take the they take the video down but otherwise it's freedom
Starting point is 00:37:30 over there at motherless.com the only problem is you'll be like scrolling and there'll be a lot of doo-doo and there'll be like a guy who likes his junk being bitten by wasps it's like oh god this is the opposite of what i was looking for i really just wanted to see really hardcore blowjobs. That's so far from what I want to see online. What's it called? Black Tears. When the mascara's running. That seems like innocence compared to the wasp thing.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You gotta go into the wasp website if you want to see legit black tears. I just want to see some loving girl blowing her boyfriend and giving it all she's got. Until all she's got. If she doesn't throw up a little, she's not trying.
Starting point is 00:38:11 There should be some gagging. I stop short of any vomit whatsoever. If you're going to play with the big leagues, then sometimes you hit a foul ball. Yeah, that's true. If you can't hang with the big dogs, get off the porch. I remember I saw this hot porno gif and i sent it to my girlfriend i was like we should do this and it's like girlfriend's just like bouncing on the guy and like like fucking like
Starting point is 00:38:33 jerking the bottom of his dick while she's riding him or something like that and i was like oh that looks fun and i sent it to her innocent normal fucking fuckery but and i didn't watch the whole gif but at the end she just like takes the handful of cum and throws it in she's like all right if that's what you want but like after i sent it to her i watched the whole thing on her end you know what i mean like like i i opened it up in the app i sent it to her and because yeah i want to watch it again that was hot and she's like and so i have to quickly be like except for that last five seconds he flicks the cum into the guy's eyes like like not that not that it's just the three ellipses all over his face on kyle's phone showing he's writing frantically she gives him
Starting point is 00:39:19 the best hand job ever and then shits in his mouth like oh god i didn't know it was gonna end that way but there's no good answer on the pornography thing i i think if we're speaking for society again and just making a better society or a better planet of people whatever pornography's evil it's wrong so is alcohol so is tobacco so is i actually do believe that there's, you know, this pornography on the innocent end is not bad for society at all, but how to get it to stop where Woody thinks it's right is impossible. It's like ice cream. It's like, you could say this thing about,
Starting point is 00:39:56 there's nothing wrong with ice cream. And then you look at the guy over there, who's gorging himself all day, every day. He has diabetes. He's already lost the left, but rights on the way, his family's left him.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Now we're all supporting him because he's on government assistance. Some rough ice cream addiction. That's what pornography does. You just don't see it because the feet don't fall off. It's people's souls deteriorating. Forgive me for using the word soul. I know you don't believe in that.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I was so mad. I knew you were gonna go there those aren't real cops no no no whatever it is inside of us that's degraded by doing degraded things like when you hear people like when he came back from the war he wasn't the same whatever piece of him was lost or damaged while he was at war there's a similar thing happening if you're gooning all day born hub was was our Vietnam. You know about gooning? Gooning. I think I'm going to know it after you tell it to me. Remind me. You might have a goon cave.
Starting point is 00:40:52 That would be part of it. Maybe I don't know this. I've heard the term before. You showed me the goon cave Reddit and it's like someone sitting there naked. Like the architect in the Matrix. They look like an air traffic controller with the amount of screens they're looking at and they have like in the matrix they look like an air traffic controller with the amount of screens they're looking at and it's like 15 different porn videos and they're
Starting point is 00:41:11 like solid goon sesh tonight and just looking at it it's like they're just this is all day so like all like the darkest pornography they they can conjure with like hypno mixed in. Is that what gooning is? Yeah. Edging for a long time before you finally release? Okay. Maybe. Not just a long time. We're not talking about like an hour or two hour jerk session. I can understand that. You're just having fun. It's Wednesday. What are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Zach has it here. Let me define it for the audience in case these idiots are like me three minutes ago. A form of masturbation that involves edging for a long period of time, causing a hypnotic trance-like state. Oh, I thought it just meant a catch-off.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I just thought it was edging. Oh, okay. See? That dummy. I guess we didn't know anything about goon. What you've got to get on my head is it's not going to be a positive. You're like, yeah, I just had a little goon session with the wife. No big deal. It's going to be like yeah i goon every day check out my cave why aren't you using your batman voice it doubles as my bat cave yeah it's that's definitely like i support his right to do that just as i support people's rights to like do any number of awful
Starting point is 00:42:19 things to themselves but for it's like drugs for example all drugs should be illegal all of the recreational drugs should marijuana all of should be illegal all the recreational drugs marijuana all of them you should have to go to a doctor and not one of those hippie doctors they should all be illegal but i don't like that kind of i don't like that tyranny i like i think i should be able to take heroin i think i should be to kill myself with heroin slowly and you should have to support me i think you should have to pay my doctor bills while i kill myself slowly with heroin i believe that but if i'm if i'm out for society's good not my own good where i get to do all the heroin i want you pay for it then i gotta say no heroin for anybody right like it's it's two different
Starting point is 00:42:59 mindsets drugs are really tricky for me. Same thing with the 16-year-olds. If Kyle can't have them, no one can. You can't have 16-year-olds in this state. Pot, mushrooms, and there's another one. Alcohol. Acid. I'm okay with it. Alcohol. Alcohol kills more people than so many scary things.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think that number's pumped up by the fact that it's legal. If you give these other drugs legality, they might join it. I don't know which one exactly. Is it acid? Is it heroin? Heroin would pass it, I bet, if it were legal. But maybe I'm just coming from tradition. Anyway, I like those legal.
Starting point is 00:43:38 This is the thing where I'm trying to do what I just said you can't do with porn. So I don't have an answer for my own hypocrisy, trying to draw a line at the right spot. But I also liken it to action sports. You should absolutely be allowed to hang glide or base jump or even just free solo. Like I, I would hate a country where they said, no,
Starting point is 00:43:58 no, no, no, you can't play on that rock wall. We've determined that, you know, it takes so much talent to climb that one. You're not allowed.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I think that's a shitty place to live i don't like that um and somehow that ties into all sorts of other bad decisions you might want to make in my mind yeah again like if i'm trying to form a utopia we got to eliminate some freedoms because because the at the edge it's just like how one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. Yeah. Your freedom shouldn't encroach on mine. That's usually my weather vane. If I'm going for like it, it's it's that's the one I do for me again. It's like that's the one I want to be a part of for my own selfish reasons is the one where we are. Freedoms go as far as until they intercede upon another's.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That's that's that's how you get rid of yelling fire um is freedom of speech in a theater or whatever it's like no no no no no no no it's not dummy but hate speech is free speech i i so wholeheartedly believe hate speech is free speech and free speech is hate speech i saw a german i saw a german throwing up a sig heil today and the cops threw him on the ground whooped his his ass and arrested him. And I'm like, I don't like that. I don't like that. Like, you think I like Nazis? I fucking hate.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Look, nobody. I love World War Two. I know that the Nazis were the bad guys. Unlocked some people today. But like that guy should be able to he should be able to do whatever hand signals he wants on the fucking street. That's what I think. I see where you're coming from. I have another hypocrisy I can't resolve in myself, which is the fucking street. That's what I think. I see where you're coming from. I have another hypocrisy I can't resolve in myself,
Starting point is 00:45:27 which is the tax code. So America's tax code, like many countries, encourage certain behavior through the tax code. One of them is homeownership. We make the interest on mortgage, loans for a house, only your primary house, tax deductible. You can deduct those from your personal income. Why do we do that? Well, America has decided that homeowners are a little more
Starting point is 00:45:49 invested in their community, a little more looking towards the long-term, a little more caring about their school systems. Whereas renters don't give a fuck about the local place that they live in. It's just a passing by. Lie by night. Who gives a fuck, right? america has encouraged home ownership through the tax code we've done it with trials there's child children tax credits and while i benefited from it i always thought it was terrible somehow now that i don't get it anymore i'm like you know this is starting to make some sense because our reproductive rate's a little lower than we wish it was people are waiting longer to have kids and i'm like well it wouldn't be so bad if we lightened the financial burden on
Starting point is 00:46:25 young family or any family really you know people with they're still supporting their kids so we're encouraging certain behaviors through the tech code and somehow i'm for that but then you know we want to ban certain vices and i'm like where's my freedom what do you think about little hypocrisy there more um i i love these topics what um what do you think about no-fault divorces? Oh, it baffles me that Republicans are trying to make divorce harder. Really? Maybe I'm out of touch. Because I'm hearing now, I guess there's a trend of fussing about women, probably born from some truth, who get divorced because they're not happy, even though they don't have a legitimate reason
Starting point is 00:47:08 to be unhappy. They shouldn't be shaking up people's lives. They're just like, you know, I'm not really feeling it. I'm going to burn this to the ground and start over again. There's no downside for the woman. Yeah. It can even be incentivized.
Starting point is 00:47:23 There are only upsides to a woman leaving her husband it's why you see people in situations where like i have to divorce my husband of 37 years so that we can afford this surgery there are only upsides to divorce for the woman there are only downsides for the man that's just the way it works yeah i'm actually not familiar with that part of the financial upside like if you still like this guy, I don't know how you get money by being divorced. Alimony. But it's coming from the... If the two of you couldn't afford it together...
Starting point is 00:47:52 You go off with a new man. In this case, she's leaving her husband and getting another guy's money. So that the two of them... As women do. Yeah, when women initiate divorce, they tend to have another branch they're holding on to before they let go of the current one. That's just how women operate. I just got a little deep dived into the, I have a surgery I can't afford, so I'll get a divorce. And that'll give us a bonus.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I don't understand how that goes. Oh, yeah, not that. But I do see women, I read about women leaving men when they probably should have stuck it out like that guy did nothing wrong he was a good man and now now he's financially ruined yeah and he yeah it's a fucked up situation yeah i don't like however you know it's like a burden of proof on forcing you to stay with the guy we're not grandfathering it in don't worry you know what i mean that makes it better right like now when he said when he proposed marriage just know he proposed a marriage like you we take lots of vows in society uh when you when you take that vow and you sign those papers and you join the marine corps you best believe there's no no
Starting point is 00:49:01 fault leaving the marine corps like we're we're in the mud buddy like get your shit simplify commando joe it's a contract at the bank for a mortgage loan is you know a lot more serious than leaving a marriage like depends on how old the marriage if you're if you're a woman like if you're a woman it should ruin if a woman does that make it like a bankruptcy it ruins her her um relationship credit for seven years she cannot get married for seven years oh it'll impact her status all right especially if she has a kid like as a single mom well that's everybody wants to rent you no one wants to buy you yes yes very true that everybody wants to rent you. No one wants to buy you. Yes. Yes. Very true. Nobody wants to be a stepfather. And for a lot of reasons, right? Like it's not just about,
Starting point is 00:49:52 it's about, you'll never be able to discipline that child properly. So that'll never be your child. If you can't enforce a rule set around that child that is yours without going to the real parent, as it were, then that's not your kid. That's somebody else's kid that you're taking care of, and you're never going to be able to influence them in the way that you need to. You're not a real parent. If your daddy can't
Starting point is 00:50:16 spank you and your mommy can't spank you, and I'm not talking about beating the shit out of you. It may be like slapping you on the ass if you're just being a jerk. Or even just take things away. Whatever your punishment is, time out. I don't know. Dad took Mark. Mark took my PlayStation away. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:31 you're going to let him do that. My real dad bought that because he has a real dad job. Mark, what are you playing? PlayStation one over there. I'm a retro gamer. You piece of shit. I should have never married your horrible mother.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I can only afford the PS1. I have to hear bitch mom divorced me and took my fucking Oculus Rift. We've had too much serious discussion. I really wanted to compare Woody's shield with my shield. Do you have yours nearby?
Starting point is 00:51:02 I have it right over there. I prepped it over here. You want to go grab your shield if it's close? It's in the Game of Thrones room. Just a second. I don't have a shield. Fag. I don't know what I'm going to do if I come under fire from archers. Dude, I'll be safe.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Woody's going to bring a sword, though. I don't have a sword. I do have a hockey stick over there. I'd rather have the sword for for doing battle than the dog oh i i told you i i messaged you last night i couldn't believe it last night we were watching um godfather part two and i was like i want some snacks so i ordered guacamole and bean dip and it showed and the bag showed up with we a bag of weed stuck to the side of it and i was like what the fuck and it's i it's weed it's a big it says thca 34.2 percent or some shit so really strong as hell dude it was strong as fuck because i smoked it before i ate the bean dip i rolled that shit up right away and one of the those red velvet um like like they giving that
Starting point is 00:52:05 away like fortune cookies now a little extra treat i what it was was you had a regular plastic weed baggie that smell proof um from the dispensary and the dispensary had slapped a sticker onto it but the sticker wasn't perfectly aligned so some of the stickiness was overlapping and he had thrown my food in his car seat instead of using the heat bag like a real like a good delivery driver so the shit had stuck to my bag of food and it was dark i didn't have my porch light on so he delivered i don't know a couple grams of weed with my dip and it couldn't you couldn't have given me a better like uh pairing guacamole and bean dip other than like two or three grams of weed that i immediately rolled up in the end of a joint and i i wasn't i was like what kind of chips
Starting point is 00:52:51 on the border um no it was from like a we have a bunch of like authentic oh from a restaurant i was imagining you like ordering from a grocery store no no we there's like a a bunch of them here these authentic mexican kitchen slash grocery stores and they've got a like an old mexican lady back there throwing down some delicious mex and it's cheap like like mixed fajitas like texas fajitas are 15 or something like that like normally you know 25 at a good restaurant it's delicious and it's authentico which i appreciate see I would never order just chips and dip.
Starting point is 00:53:26 If I'm ordering food, I'm ordering a good bit of it. I'd need some fajitas also. Maybe a burrito. I had to eat dinner a couple hours. I just wanted dip. I wanted chips and dip because I was watching that three-hour
Starting point is 00:53:42 movie, Woody's Falling. He had to climb a ladder to get that shield, and he didn't make it back to the bottom. Dude, if he out-shields me, I'm going to... There's no way. I'm going to pseudo-coup myself. No, I bet his shield's bullshit. You think his shield isn't bullshit? No matter what, no matter how cool it is, just be rude about it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I thought you had a shield! I've seen plates bigger. I wouldn't stand in the rain under that shield, much less storm into battle. You put that on your wall? That's what makes it a Game of Thrones room? Woohoo! Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:22 What if it's just fucking unreal? Like just such a high quality. This is actually used to battle the bastards. If you look closely, you'll see Jon Snow picks this shield up and defends himself at one point. Here's where Kit Harington signed it. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:54:37 That's pretty cool. That's a good shield. It took a minute because I was looking for my sword i don't know what the north carolinian carolinian laws are but i really feel like a sword should be a four cause divorce reason that's viable oh my god that is a big oh careful with that okay Okay. Oh my god. I like this one. I've been bashing you. If you're audio
Starting point is 00:55:13 only, Taylor is brandishing an enormous sword and a hockey stick and Woody has presented a sword and a Game of Thrones shield with a direwolf sigil on it. Taylor, of course, has the Persian Empire sigil from AoE 3.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Two. That's Cyrus. Is that Cyrus leading them? We talked about this maybe. Who won the shield? I added sword just for extra flair. I think Woody might win
Starting point is 00:55:44 maybe some style points because I really like the for extra flair. I feel like, alright, so I think Woody might win maybe some style points because I really like the dire wolf sigil. However, Taylor definitely takes it for functionality because I think that if I were under fire by arrows, javelins, maybe taking some wax,
Starting point is 00:55:59 that thing looks hardy. This is every bit of 25 pounds. I can lift mine like this. You'd have to be really strong to do that with yours. You might be able to. I fear Taylor's is the more shield. This is stout, but you like
Starting point is 00:56:15 the decorative dire wolf. This sword's kind of cool. She moved it for Christmas decorations and didn't replace it. There was a little bit of a... I gave her some lip. Woody, this is a signed game-used... You better be careful. He's got a sword. Signed and game-used
Starting point is 00:56:32 Ray Bork stick. Ooh, Ray Bork. What team did he play for when he signed that? I don't know. I don't know what part of the career it was, but it's a neat one. My dad gave it to me he's the Boston guy who went to Colorado
Starting point is 00:56:48 and won a chip right most points ever by a defenseman over his career I believe I love this shield I was going to hang it behind me here and then I was like no I'm going to hang this in my living area it looks so nice I like my shield.
Starting point is 00:57:07 We call it the Game of Thrones room. So having that shield in it, like maybe makes it a little more fitting. But I do feel like the last season or two of the show devalued my shield. It did. It did. That's what's up. I would like a full suit of armor. I saw one on, you know, I'm always looking at swords lately. And I saw the would like a full suit of armor. I saw one on... I'm always looking at swords lately.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I saw the website had a whole suit of armor. I think it was less than two grand. A big, impressive suit of armor. Not that looked... Maybe it was even wearable. It was impressive for, I don't know, $1,500 or something like that. This sword's
Starting point is 00:57:43 cooler than I thought. Is it sharp at all uh the pointy part is very sharp but the sides are not yeah it's probably the best i always i think i even told taylor like i was linking him swords and i was like for 20 they'll make it like a razor i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do that either they probably don't need a 30-inch long double razor blade. How big is your shield? Like this one I was holding up is like almost three feet across. Almost three feet would be pretty on target.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I don't think it's three, but it's more than two. Yeah, that's solid. I mean, if we're under archer fire, I think I survive at least... Modern archer fire? ...liefly longer. Yours is 100% fucking impervious to archer fire. You can't shoot through that shit with a modern bow. It's unbelievably heavy.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Like, I'd have to get... I'd have to be in tremendous shape to lug this into battle. Really? Oh, yeah. It's like it's probably 30 pounds. Do you think that yours is an authentic, like what they would have been like? No, they definitely would be not as heavy as that.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Oh, okay. Yeah, they're definitely much lighter. Like the same way that you have in your head that swords were super heavy, and then you learn their real weight and it's like oh i guess this does make more sense you're running around with it all the time you have to be pretty spry with your sword in my head it goes like this the last time you played with a sword you were nine years old and then the adult you was like these aren't that heavy yeah you know what this probably is what it is the same way you like you see a grade school teacher out in public randomly and when you in your 20s and you're like, you're not even that big.
Starting point is 00:59:30 For me, it's when you revisit playground equipment from a school you graduated from 15 years ago. Like, oh, my God, I remember the fear at the top of that four and a half foot tower. Yeah, I could walk these monkey bars now. The Spartans use bronze shields or the greeks use bronze shields and those were those were at least 15 20 pounds for sure stronger per like per gram than wood is i guess yeah oh for sure yeah yeah i just don't know bronze that well i think maybe a copper for example maybe isn't i don't know what is what is bronze is copper with tin right i thought it was brass and tin oh maybe you're right i know the reason i like what's brass
Starting point is 01:00:18 brass isn't on the periodic table this comes out of brass just comes out of the ground! I'm like, I don't know if I think. I don't remember anymore, if I'm being honest. I know that the Bronze Age, it was easier to make shit out of bronze than iron for a long time, because you could just pour and mold swords out of bronze,
Starting point is 01:00:40 whereas they didn't figure that out with iron until obviously steel like but iron itself when you're just making an iron sword a lot of wear and tear rust super heavy and it takes a long time to like forge it whereas bronze you can just pour yeah iron is soft does that have to do with how you quench it and i don't think i fully understand how to harden steel. No one does. So, a lot of people do. Sometimes you have to pour it in burning oil and sometimes you make it cold too quick. I know
Starting point is 01:01:10 sometimes when I weld shit, I get it too hot and now it's weak no matter how well the weld went. Yeah, so you're adding carbon to iron to make steel, right? So that's being introduced from the smoke and the ash and a number of other things that are just part of the blacksmithing process happenstance-wise.
Starting point is 01:01:30 But the quenching thing, I think, has something to do with the alignment of the atomic structure of the metal. And they're trying to get it right. I don't think you want to shock quench it like fast until you're done. Maybe. Maybe that's it. But there's more than one quenching. Like some people do it in oil and some people do it, I think, in water. So I wonder why they're doing it.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I wonder if doing it in the oil is adding carbon to the steel on multiple layers. Like they're adding layers of carbon to it maybe somehow that way? Is one taking away the temper and the other adding? I don't know. What happens is I've gotten into this. I've learned it and I understood it for as long as I understood the movie Primer.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And then it's gone. Level 100 smithing in Skyrim. You don't even know. Okay. Level 100 smithing. I've made You don't even know. Okay. Level 100 smithing. I've made thousands of iron daggers. None of them high quality for damage pop, but you just, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:31 leather braces too. Expert in those. Yeah. Now that I've got a, now that I've got a Persian emblem shield, which that's like the exact Persian emblem from age of empires too, which is fucking sweet. Now I either, I need to buy a Persian-style sword.
Starting point is 01:02:48 And I was hoping in our group chat like a week ago, Kyle was like, oh, I could get really into collecting Roman stuff. And I'd be like, that'd be fun. Then I could get really into collecting Persian stuff because they were kind of rivals back in the day. And I could learn a lot about persian victories over roman armies and get really invested in it and then you could like clap back and be like no idiot the romans buttfuck the persians and it'd be fun just pretend you're unteachable i don't know i looked
Starting point is 01:03:17 at fucking 1423 bc yeah i read uh the propaganda from the pers side. They said, and you, I'm going to start saying like we about Persians. We had elephants. You did not. Aren't you Roman though? I'm a mix of what, I'm certainly more Italian than I am Persian. But I mean, they had war elephants, war elephants rock. That's so cool. I can't argue with that. Yeah, you would have been a Roman and I would have been a Norman or maybe a Gaul or a Celt or just an Anglo-Saxon.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I feel like those are the only areas I could actually draw upon with any genealogical accuracy. Kyle's part Neanderthal, so he could just come back with a rock. We don't know what cool weapons they had Okay Your people ganged up on us And you bred so fast We had bigger lung capacities We had the capacity for art, for culture Alright, we were the better race
Starting point is 01:04:18 We were the master race some say Very briefly I don't know what part Neanderthal I had But apparently my mother had a ton of it in her so white people have most like european people of white like european descent have some neanderthal in them for sure yeah because we rape them to death like that's they're like oh do we kill all of them to the man well kind of i don't i don't know if that was it or if we won by them homogenizing into us and they just kind of bred themselves we bred them out of existence effectively you know the
Starting point is 01:04:53 answer to that ancient man found a a weird subspecies of man not just other men because that's who we normally massacre down to every man and then rape their women and and kill their children that's what we do to people that look like us. Exactly like us. Whose language is close. That's what we do to them. But you're telling me there's some cavemen up there with big ass fucking ugly brows. And we're going to be like, brother, come join our tribe.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Fuck our women. No. We killed them all. We raped their women. We made half Neanderthal slave children and then we probably you think so that's what we did i choose to believe that neanderthal women were better at sex in some way like like homo sapien women just only did doggy and neanderthals rode you on top and they were tighter i don't know yeah they had their caves hey oh you know they
Starting point is 01:05:41 were out of the caves by then but my point is that's what we did because that's what we do that's what we do today that's what we do today well it was certainly probably a mix of those where it's like hey we just conquered you, you can either
Starting point is 01:06:00 assimilate or you lose because there wouldn't have been this is tribal warfare right it would have been like eight neanderthals came down like i like two like two and a half families of neanderthals are over there by our watering hole kill the men take the hot one bash the children's brains out that's and take all their shit that's what we do yeah i think you're making strong points yeah yeah that's what neanderthals don't show up with a cool fucking headdress on and be like i am ug doug the king of the andertals we have a city over there and you have a city over here and we just met for some weird reason but let's be no no we kill on site that's what we
Starting point is 01:06:36 always yeah they weren't as good at procreating there weren't as many of them that you're gonna lose and i think they weren't as good at team numbers game like game. They didn't tend to form tribes, according to the internet. Their tribes couldn't be as big. We're just super good at working together. I saw this discussion on how many wolves it took to take down a bear. And they were asking a guy who's seen bears fight wolves, so it helps. And he was like, I'm going to say five. I'm going to say five because a bear will stay there for hours and fight three wolves.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Maybe four wolves. Five or six wolves. He's going to head for the hills. He he knows they got him outnumbered they're pulling on him from every side like he's got to get out of there i was like yeah i guess that makes sense because i always forget like wolves are fucking but so a pat so five wolves or a bear or a man which would you which would i rather have sex with in the woods? Yeah. I love that that question really blew up all over. I know you don't, I guess, go on the internet, Taylor.
Starting point is 01:07:34 I saw bits and pieces of it after the fact. You might like the internet. And it was what I assumed. It was exactly women signaling frustration at men in a way that is totally disingenuous. And even they know they're lying. Like, no, no, no. It's interesting. It's interesting how different our take is on this.
Starting point is 01:07:55 No, because they wouldn't. They are afraid of men and they are ignorant of bears. And that is as far as it needs to go. They all of those those women's answers would have been different if they were forced to answer the question. Would you rather encounter in the forest a bear or a black man? If you let them 100 percent of them would have said black man, if it's not actually anonymous, expressing fear, if it's anonymous, it's a social signal. OK, that's a different thing. Now you're bringing in another crazy thing in our society
Starting point is 01:08:27 with anti-white racism and mixing it in. If you make the survey anonymous, so like, hey, bubble in black man or bear, which one would you rather, black man or black bear? Which would you rather bump into in the woods? I still say, they're going to say. I might choose black bear. Now that I know it's a black bear. I'd let you a woman who got her face eaten by a black bear.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I've successfully defeated a black bear. Know who you're talking to, all right? You spooked a black bear one time. Dude, I told him he was a bad bear, and he ran off like I hurt his feelings. These are not the scariest creatures. I would still, I'd pick any race of man over any race of bear i don't think you i don't know you've come in combat with a black bear i see they're not that bad i really aren't right there i see women's i genuinely see women's point there when they say man um because like just as quickly as i'll send you that did
Starting point is 01:09:21 you mean there when they say man uh when they say bear. When they say they'd rather bump into the bear. I get that to some extent. I don't know. If I put myself in the position of a woman, it's like man, it's hard when you imagine yourself as a woman and you don't want to be sexually assaulted by a man. And you don't want to be sexually assaulted by a man. And you don't, and you know, I imagine you don't want to be gored and eaten by a bear.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Well, maybe they, you know, I would choose man because men don't prey on men at the way they prey on women. But I'm also fully aware that bears prey on everything smaller than them in some instances. So I get that too and i sent you
Starting point is 01:10:06 that i really did link you on whatsapp that lady whose face was eaten by a black bear and i didn't like that i i can't believe no one's posted that to reddit like like you know they should just put it up there's a subreddit called leopards ate my face and it's all about people who who like get the animals no not at all um uh it's people getting their comeuppance. No, not at all. It's people getting their comeuppance, basically, and it's a bit ironic the way it happens. That would be a good meme over there. Well, you understand why I went there, right?
Starting point is 01:10:36 I've heard it's ate my face. A lot of it is anti-Republican politics in that subreddit. Gay people who support the Republicansans for example will be like what and then they then they put this like trying to remove my marriage and it's like leopards ate my face right yeah um realizing that but sometimes it's not against uh republicans and they'll just be like whatever like maybe you fought your life to free rapists from jail then
Starting point is 01:11:04 you get raped it's like that happened there was that woman who like got the rapist out and then he raped her and her mother and killed them both i think i actually saw that yeah i didn't that that one's new to me i think anthony kumia retweeted that onto my timeline well it was a black man uh so i can imagine it's a safe bet that he's anthony kumi is twitter's the the most racist place on the internet like that's where you go dude it's ground zero it's good wow it's i dude if a black man commits a violent crime in three minutes anthony's on the fucking apy are getting news about it so he can retweet it i so i don't um browse twitter ever i probably
Starting point is 01:11:44 hit it every day because i'll get linked to it from reddit or something but it. So I don't browse Twitter ever. I probably hit it every day because I'll get linked to it from Reddit or something, but I don't scroll it. But Anthony told me, or Taylor told me to check out Kumia's thing and God,
Starting point is 01:11:55 like he was right at just that moment. You grab a random period of time, you check that thing out and it is a rough look. Oh yeah. You want to know the most recent
Starting point is 01:12:05 in a country of 350 million people, the most recent black violent criminal, Anthony Gumi already has his name. Devon Morris. It'd be funny you'd ask him. Ah, Devon Morris, actually. That happened three seconds ago. Yeah, he raped, killed, murdered.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Like, how do you get it? He's getting like amber alerts. He's getting black alerts. Yeah, there wouldn't be amber. He's getting black alerts, though. Yeah, that wouldn't be amber. It needs to be some other brown. You know they changed in California, right? You need a different color for black kids. That's true?
Starting point is 01:12:33 Oh, yeah, I heard about that. Zach, fact check me on that. I'm pretty sure California made, instead of amber alert, they've got, like, fucking ebony alert or some shit. Just so you know that it's a black kid who's missing. Not a whitey. That's some horrible. Well, that's in the eye of the beholder.
Starting point is 01:12:50 That might work against them if that was their goal. That'd be funny. Like, cause in my phone, I disabled them all. Cause I'm not. You can do that? Yeah. It asks you. How do you do that?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Kind of an Android. So. I don't know. It asked me if I want to accept Amber alerts. And I'm like, absolutely not. I don't it asked me if i want to uh accept amber alerts i'm like absolutely not i don't want any alerts i do it asked me if i wanted uh extreme weather alerts those none of that i don't want any of that shit um but if i could choose whether i want yes to amber alerts and no to ebony alerts that that'd be hilarious that would be pretty funny you're not doing anything for either of them yeah what. What do they call it?
Starting point is 01:13:26 Ebony Alert. I think they have one for Mexicans too, maybe. They gotta get one for trans kids. What's the Mexican alert? Yeah. This is bait. They just say, wet back down.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I was trying to come up with a term for wet back. i was trying to come up with it for like wet back that would be an alert that's wet back but not awful swimmer alert i don't know yeah it's beaner but beaner's the one that's like you call me a beaner that's great but but like beaner is too silly to be offensive yeah is that back is closer to kike it's like you mean business and you drop the yeah you're like short for something like mexican no but like these are poor oh it's just a person that eats beans that's the reference no it's a
Starting point is 01:14:16 mexican and if i say beener i mean a mexican and fellow racists will will get my meaning and mexicans will get my meaning if there's a mexican a white guy, and a black guy, and I go, yo, Beaner! The Mexican guy's the only one who's mad, I promise. But what's the etymology of Beaner? Where did that come from? Because Mexicans are poor and they eat beans. That's it, okay. That's where I think it's from. I bet we could also tap Anthony Cumia for the
Starting point is 01:14:37 entomology of Beaner. Actually. Pulls down like a slide. It all leads back to gassy Mexicans it all leads back to another group we haven't approached yet but we'll get there well I think it's dinner time
Starting point is 01:14:57 yeah alright enough sex I look forward to you bringing a sword to our I will absolutely buy a sword now I'm gonna get I going to beat Kyle to the punch. That won't be hard. No, he's not going to do it. He's moving in slow-mo. He's LARPing on being a sword LARPer.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I'm picturing it in the closet. The only thing gayer than a sword guy is a guy pretending to be one. I love that. I can't decide if I want a really good sword or just an okay sword like like i the question is do i want to look at it or do i want to chop some shit in the backyard with it occasionally and and like do i like like you know when when the burglars come do i want to draw that thing i'm telling you right now that would be a great fucking headline if i killed somebody with
Starting point is 01:15:44 a sword and a break-in or something. You'd die like a soldier. Hilarious. Like Leonidas in your living room. Is there a Russian sword? I bet Russians, you have swords somewhere in their history. Yeah, but I'm not only make-believe Russian. I want a real one.
Starting point is 01:15:58 No, but the headline's going to be FPS Russia. Sword's a guy. Well, hopefully their grammar's better than that. FBS Russia killed after a hilarious, misinformed home defense debacle. That's right, Don. It was a decorative sword, and
Starting point is 01:16:13 I'm gonna let you know right now, that clock was not decorative in the least. Those were real bullets, real guns. The kimono he was wearing makes it more embarrassing. He tried to convince us it was uh erotic asphyxiation i've got that shogun helmet with the with all the shit on the forehead his body was discovered when they barged in and found his podcast co-host taking his pants off tying his body to a doorknob by the neck. That was reverse.
Starting point is 01:16:49 He said, you don't understand, I'm helping as we are doing. The older one said, shh, this will be hilarious. This will be a good bit. So I've got to decide between functional sword and decorative sword because the price difference is somewhat substantial.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Or historical sword, which is sick as fuck. I sent you some historical Persian swords sword and decorative sword because the price difference is somewhat substantial. Yes. Or historical sword, which is sick as fuck. I sent you some historical Persian swords and they're like $1,500 to $5,000. But these are ancient fucking swords with decorative handles and it's like that is a piece of history. That's pretty sick.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I really like that. Not enough to part with five grand, but if somebody did, I would be in awe some day I'll love it that much Rogan apparently has like an ancient samurai sword I remember he showed Elon Musk he's like this is a fucking not a Hattori Hanzo he's like this is a Hattori Hanzo sword
Starting point is 01:17:37 it was made in the 16th century or some shit it's pretty fucking cool that he's got like a real deal ancient samurai sword I'm with you for some reason samurai is not the one that lights my fire if it was roman or persian or i don't know i've got russian in my head for the last 30 seconds like that would be neat to me i like my mosin nagant for the same reason even though they're not so hard to find yeah they're harder than they
Starting point is 01:18:00 used to be oh okay yeah that's one thing that's one thing you can collect that's pretty affordable is getting all the four or five major World War II bolt guns. The Springfield and the Arasaka. Do you have the Arasaka? Yes, and I think the other one's the American one.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Springfield 1903. You probably know better than me. I'd have to go downstairs. The Garand's, the one that goes ping and the clip flies out the top, but then there's the mist about the people listening. Sure. Yeah. I don't know if that's true or not. That's probably a wrap.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Like you said, all right. PKN 507. Good.

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