Painkiller Already - PKN 518

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKN 518. What's up, boys? How is it going? Oh, not too much. Kyle, how do you have shampoo in your eyes? Clearly hours after you've gotten out of the shower, your hair is entirely dry. You've got at least, you've got like what? An undershirt, a t-shirt, a long-sleeved flannel,
Starting point is 00:00:15 and a jacket. In Georgia in July. Right, Kyle traveled somewhere very north. It's 63 here. Genuinely 63 in my house. I got out of the shower like 45 minutes ago so it's still burning but you know i i noticed you your hair is often very wet you don't use a blow dryer or a towel no i'll have you know that's grease greasy hair i forgot you're italian you're not sometimes i just could think of you as a white but you know it was the accutane really that gave you that skin tone so i'm taking it and running with it i was wrong i i really thought
Starting point is 00:00:59 on the other day um that that biden was you know gonna stay in this thing and going to be there all the way. He had been so forceful about it, for one thing. It almost reminds me of the George Bush, read my lips, no new taxes. And then like a few moments later. That's your example of like, I knew it wouldn't change because we didn't know. No, no. Well, no, it's my example of someone saying I'm going to do a thing very forcefully
Starting point is 00:01:28 and clearly. Literally saying read my lips and then a week later it's like well actually turns out that I'm not capable of running for president again. I'm good to run the place now though. Don't worry about me. Wait where have you been for five days? Don't worry about me. Someone sent a signed piece
Starting point is 00:01:44 of paper that said, dude, if our uncle or something sent us a letter like that, if someone just showed up and was like, hey, your uncle's selling the plays just so you know. He signed here. We'd be like, I'm going to need to see him. I don't know you. I'm going to need to hear from Uncle Bernie.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Wait, Uncle Bernie, are you selling them? Yeah, I need to see little... You're telling me my Uncle Bernie, who's 81, is selling his house, and all I have to go on is this piece of paper signed by him. I don't know. I'm going to need to see Uncle Bernie and hear from him about all this.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, you've got to get a look at Joe. I mean, he's just... I think he came out today, right? He was Burns handing around an airplane tarmac. Was he? I think. I don't think he's been today, right? He was Burns handing around an airplane tarmac. I don't think he's been seen for five days. I was AFK all day. It may have been an older video. I thought it was from today.
Starting point is 00:02:35 He did have dark hair. He had dark hair? Not in the video I saw. He had white old man hair. Is that hair? This is a step up. He barely has hair yeah like but the thing about it kyle is you've got a number of big against the odds predictions up in the air right now and so losing this little minor one not a big deal you could still get the
Starting point is 00:02:58 trump call from like a year ago a year plus ago i think think. Oh, yeah. I've got the Trump call down. The fact that they're just going to choose Kamala to be the candidate, coronate her, if you will, it's all over. It's all over.
Starting point is 00:03:18 It is all over. Trump is getting butt-fucked. He hasn't let a poll. Yeah, I'll double you. How confident are you? Let's make it 200. We can make it 200. What are these polls? I saw the Reddit headline.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Two more came out today. I saw the Reddit headline, Kamala's leading in the national polls, and then I go right back to 538. So many pages of him beating her. That's interesting because on 538, they literally just turned it off and said that they're not going to do it again until after the nomination.
Starting point is 00:03:50 They turned polling off. It says forecast suspended on 538. Why did they do that? Because they don't have a nominee for the democratic party. Oh, Oh, I thought it was almost like foregone conclusion. It is, but that's what the words say on FiveThirtyEight. Oh, she's the worst, though. She's so much worse.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Dude, she is crushing it. She did a rally, and they had to reschedule the rally. Not reschedule, but move it to a place that could handle the bigger crowd. The crowd is going nuts, like a 2016 Trump crowd. She has this line that she keeps repeating about how, you know, when she was a prosecutor, she took on these for-profit colleges that ripped off their students, and Donald Trump paid $25 million in fines for his rip-off for-profit college.
Starting point is 00:04:41 When she was a prosecutor, she took on people who cheated the system for their own benefit donald trump has 40 or 34 felony convictions for cheating the system for his own benefit when she was a prosecutor she took on uh she specialized in sexual abusers and donald trump has a hundred at all a hundred million dollars worth of fines for his sexual abuse convictions she says i know people like donald, and I've beaten people like Donald Trump before, and the crowd goes fucking ballistic. She's killing it. The internet's filled with
Starting point is 00:05:09 coconuts because of her silly little coconuts thing. I don't know what... It's like they turned a negative into a positive, because that coconut thing is objectively silly. I don't even know what you're talking about. You're going to see coconut merch. You're going to see coconuts fucking everywhere. It means Kamala. And she is crushing it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Are you talking about a Wisconsin rally? From like four or six hours ago? I don't know where it was. It's a pretty full high school gymnasium. Saying this is like on par with... 2016 Trump was like
Starting point is 00:05:45 fucking Metallica. I'm telling the story. Stop it. Stop it. That's the way I want to. They're trying so hard to make Kamala cool. Did she flex on all the marijuana prosecutions? She's winning in every national poll right now. At least the new ones. If you drag out the ones that
Starting point is 00:06:01 lasted like two weeks or the ones from before she was really the person the person you know because people were divided someone at kamala uh half dozens of us wanted buddha judge some people wanted cooper some people wanted uh kelly i forget the other name whitmer whitmer's a big one newsom's a big one yeah yeah i'd rather have a rock than than some of those people now oh my gosh dude it's fucking kamala crazy on the internet and donald trump oh he's fan he's hilarious to watch right now with his boomer karen energy complaining i'd like to see a manager i want uh what are you on all the effort i put into dark brandon he's in his own universe yeah i'm not in your own world on this you guys are in your own world
Starting point is 00:06:43 the reuters poll what Reuters is not like... We're fired up about it. That's all that matters. Reuters is the premiered unbiased news organization. No one calls them biased except for fucking idiots. And they said Kamala's leading in the polls right now. I'm loving it. There's a whole new coat of paint
Starting point is 00:07:01 on the demo. It has been no fun to be team blue for like three weeks. I'm trying to think it started the debates right the debates trump had a much better debate than biden did and then it was just all trump all the time for three weeks probably peaking at when he got his ear pierced by the fellow republican grabbed his high heels and ran off stage but i see then the best thing like the first piece of good news for the Democratic team was when Trump took the stage. And he had this meandering ramble, 90 minutes of debate. And all those independent Democrats heard that and they were like, and then the Republicans heard it and they were like, I'm voting for a woman. That was the first piece of good news that the Democrats had.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Trump taking the stage. You say that, but think about what you're saying. Trump taking this stage. You say that, but think about what you're saying. Why would that help the Democrats if Donald Trump has a bad speech? Who from the right is going to say
Starting point is 00:07:53 it was... Anyone who's tuned in and watching 90 minutes of an RNC speech with Donald Trump, they're not looking to be swayed. They're members of the cult. they're in the choir they're like that was a long one can you believe when trump gets the opportunity this is like a state of the union for a candidate right this is his opportunity to get some eyeballs on him
Starting point is 00:08:15 democrats are watching him i did republicans are watching him for sure the idea that the only people watching him are unpersuadable it It was 90 minutes off target. It was boring. It was the longest fucking speech in the history of any nomination for since the 60s ever. I don't know. It was terrible. It was long and it was meandering and it was the it had all the energy of the Beach Boys
Starting point is 00:08:37 singing California Girls for the 3000th time and it was all his same like complaints about elections being stolen and other random bullshit filled with lies. The standard Trump lies he always tells that aren't supposed to be lies, right? They're kind of like jokes, I think. Yeah, so Trump didn't do himself
Starting point is 00:08:54 any favors at the RNC. And he can't find anyone who says he did. It has finally been fun. Well, I'm glad you guys won. I'm happy for you. I'm glad we went to 200. I'm psyched. Yeah, I'm glad you guys won. I'm happy for you. I'm glad we went to 200. I'm psyched. Yeah. I'm still pretty confident
Starting point is 00:09:09 here. It just doesn't seem... Are you mad at me or something? No, no. I'm not mad at all. I swear. You're being rude. That's probably true. Sorry. You're jumping in on the tail of my words with, yeah, are you? You want to fight or something. I said, me too.
Starting point is 00:09:26 You said, I'm glad. I said, me too. It's kind of hitting it back. It's not jumping. Well, I know it's been rough for you guys for a while. I think that Kamala is a terrible candidate. I think there's a reason that she got trounced in that primary process back in, Jesus, whatever
Starting point is 00:09:41 year it was when her and Tulsi and Joe were on stage. And they're trying to see who's the most racist amongst those three. And she and Kamala is calling Joe a racist and Tulsi is calling Kamala a racist. And they're all it's ridiculous. I don't think she's a good candidate. I see the framing from the left is that Donald is running from a debate with her or when they see that...
Starting point is 00:10:10 They made fun of Trump's VP Vance because he said he was upset that he wasn't going to get to debate her. Why are you making fun of him? He was going to debate her and now he's not. You were going to have this really well-spoken guy talk to someone who has trouble with sentences and talking to people. Every speech I've ever seen from her was pretty
Starting point is 00:10:35 rough. I remember that Space Force addressle or whatever you want to call it. That was crazy. Space affects us all. I remember when she was talking to there was a school bus behind her. I don't know who she was talking to. i remember when she was talking to there was a school bus behind her i don't know who she was talking to it's possible she was talking to like preschool kids and if that's the case then she nailed it no that was mit who doesn't love a big yellow school bus
Starting point is 00:10:58 dude i think she's had some klutzy things the coconut, which I'm sure you'll get exposed to soon, to me was lame. The montage of today unbeholden by tomorrow. Unburdened by today from yesterday's sorrows or some shit. I get it. I don't like that one. I think she thinks it's clever, but I don't think you'll see her say it again. But
Starting point is 00:11:19 today's thing, she's killed. People are taking snippets of it. They're going viral on the internet. Everyone's excited. Not everyone, everyone of course she has bad cadence like the speeches i've watched from her her cadence is very bad and she puts the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable in the way she's speaking and does a very insincere hillary clinton-esque panic laugh way too often and so i agree that that the Democrats have so many better people. And Kamala, she just sucks. There's a reason they kept her
Starting point is 00:11:49 under a blanket the past four years. She doesn't poll well with people. She's been working on the border, Taylor. That was her answer. I think what happens is the blue team is thirsty for someone. And they gave her Kamala and they're excited. I agree that I don't know about the cadence thing. That's how I see Trump. Donald Trump is always doing this. Sing songy, like wavy up and down excited um i agree that um i don't know about the cadence thing that's how i see trump donald trump
Starting point is 00:12:05 is always doing this sing-songy like wavy up and down cadence thing that i find unappealing but some people love it i can't ignore that you know he's popular with less than half the nation but almost half um uh but kamala i don't see the cadence thing i do see the laugh thing uh trump's first nickname for her was Laughing Harris. Laughing Kamala. No, Laughing Harris. And I'm like, cackling Kamala was right there, right? And he went with Laughing Harris.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I think you're losing your branding, dude. So are they going to debate? Trump has twice said he doesn't want to. He thinks ABC is not fair, that he wants to have it on Fox. Fox, for the record, spent almost a billion dollars in fines for lies on Trump's benefit. CNN gave the questions to Hillary. And Trump went into the lion's den. And it's not on CNN, it's ABC.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I know, but i'm just saying like like these trump trump's had it the same what trump's been cheated through these things as well and trump did the last debate like going into the lion's den in a format that we all sat here and we're like oh my god he's fucked he's ruined they're gonna make him actually talk they're not gonna let him interrupt and joust and he went in there and destroyed and won and the most landslided lopsided presidential debate in presidential history and he's like all right won that one they're like hey we well you beat our guy so bad he died almost so we've got a backup guy though don't worry and same rules right he's like no no now now we'll come play at my house
Starting point is 00:13:46 but i i like it i don't think that it's him running away or being it's so weak he he wants to go to fox news because he's scared of the the rules he already agreed to uh it it looks like president pussy pants like i see that a lot from him he's just trying to former no remember i'm not sure the warmer president oh i'm sorry former poopy pants yeah you're you're just you're visceral hatred of him is so boundless that like i i don't know if you can interpret anything he does without being very negative about it like i hear you but like i to me i'm seeing him for what he is right like dude the epstein phone logs didn't change anybody's mind. Like, at this point, I keep saying it. Trump could
Starting point is 00:14:28 rape a child on Fifth Avenue and his supporters would still back him. A Russian child? Trump was like, he's going to hand over Ukraine to Russia at this point, which I know Taylor likes, but it's against the moral code. A lot of people do want us
Starting point is 00:14:44 out of that war. I don't for sure i don't like a lot of things about trump but i do absolutely despise all the things about you know the other side and a lot of the people who are so pretentiously like shoot him down and treat him like shit and and call anyone who supports him a you know worthy of death loon who's's deplorable or whatever, like the way they painted his supporters with one brush. And you're going to have a hard time getting me on board with a marijuana prosecutor who sent 1,500 people to prison for marijuana crimes. And then when they asked her if she smoked marijuana, she giggled and laughed about it.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Someone had someone sitting on death row and had evidence that clearly they were innocent and waited until she was forced, until her hand was forced to let them out of prison. I get you. I don't like that marijuana prosecution thing, but I mean, marijuana prosecution was like going away under Obama and Trump brought it
Starting point is 00:15:39 back. It's hard to consider that his strength. It's what she does though. It's her bread and butter. It's hard to consider that his strength. It's what she does, though. It's her bread and butter. It was her thing. So it's a whole different scenario. And also, Trump's just, if anything, he's sticking with his ideals with any sort of marijuana policy he has. He's fucking straight edge over there. I mean, he's got his cold pills, but he doesn't drink and he doesn't smoke weed. You know he doesn't smoke weed. He's definitely not cool enough to smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I think he doesn't smoke weed because he likes to look down on it, maybe. That's my vibe for Trump. I think it's maybe just straight edge, like a health thing, perhaps. I don't know. It's hard to see him as a health nut, but there's a reason
Starting point is 00:16:24 he doesn't smoke and drink, and I just have to bundle marijuana into the same sort of line of thinking maybe which is not a hate thing at all yeah but anyway i i'm concerned about joe where is joe i want to know how he's doing and how he's running the country right now and keeping us all safe how is the federal government being led by now? He's not. Right now. Dude. He hasn't been running the country for years, dude. Everyone knows this now. I'm thrilled with the way the country's being run. I genuinely am. I saw Pete Buttigieg
Starting point is 00:16:54 tweet. So there was that freaking CrowdStrike thing and Delta Airlines was having trouble. Buttigieg gets on the air. We have received reports of continued disruptions and unacceptable customer service conditions at Delta. Delta must provide prompt refunds to consumers who choose not to take
Starting point is 00:17:12 rebooking free rebooking for those who do and timely reimbursements for food and hotel stays to consumers affected by these delays and cancellations, as well as adequate customer service. No one should be stranded in the airport overnight or stuck on hold for hours waiting to talk to a customer service agent. If any airline fails to honor its customer service requirements, let us know. He gives a URL to contact the government. This didn't exist before the Biden administration.
Starting point is 00:17:36 They would just give you, they'd be like, sorry, I got canceled, not my fault. Have a fuck off and a bite me. And that was the end of it. Or maybe they give you like free miles at best, some future flight to get you to take their thing again, probably that you have to upgrade.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Now, consumer service has been fixed at airlines. Airlines are the people who pay for their mistakes. That's how the country is being run. Although all the airlines were all shut down at once, that's the whole reason that refunds were a problem. So like none of the planes were moving, but don't worry, we'll get you a refund on time and it'll be cash.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It didn't used to be. It used to be the consumers got screwed. Oh, I'm aware. Like I remember when Biden signed the order or whatever. It's only been a couple months. It feels like this is like such a it's a good thing, but it's the teeniest, tiniest little thing to hang your hat on as far as how the country's going. I'm looking for big policy, large things. I like his infrastructure stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I like his infrastructure stuff. I heard he did something about the fucking lead in the pipes, which it's like, why do we have fucking lead in our pipes in this country? God damn you people. Like, OK, maybe we, one less spirit bomber. Okay. One less. And we fix all the lead in the pipes. What's a spirit bomber?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Probably some absurdly expensive military thing. What is the B2 spirit, right? Oh, okay. One less hundred billion, one less billion dollar plane. I think those are two billion. Jesus. I think those are $2 billion planes. The new ones, the, what is it?
Starting point is 00:19:04 A B21 or something like that? Jesus fucking Christ, get the lead out of the pipes. So I like to hear stuff like that. But I'm more, I really don't like that border thing. When Hutch was like, you know, some people think that they're just like bringing brown people in to be Democratic voters. It's a big conspiracy. And it's like, yeah, I bring in brown people to be Democratic voters. It's a big conspiracy. It's like, hey, I bring it back. People
Starting point is 00:19:26 have to be democratic voters. It's not even a conspiracy theory. It's right before your eyes playing out, my friend. What I don't like is that they had a bill to make it better. To get those asylum cases sorted out and to get them back on the other side of the border and Trump stopped it. sorted out and to get them back on the other side of the border and trump stopped it yeah i read about that and it was like unpalatable what they were offering it was like tell me what you give you like the amount of people they were allowing in was thousands a day and they were still not going to take any exact any additional action until that number was exceeded and it was like
Starting point is 00:20:00 as it was higher in at sometimes than like the seasonal average and so it was like as it was higher at sometimes than like the seasonal average. And so it was basically just saying things can continue on and we get what we want and we'll still block you if you try and take action on this later. Like it, it wouldn't have delivered to him what he wanted or to his voters what they wanted. Like people like me, we want the border shut down. We don't want a thousand people to be able to enter a day. We need you have to deport illegals and shut the border shut down. We don't want a thousand people to be able to enter. You have to deport illegals and shut the border. You're not a real country if you don't do stuff like this. I'll tell you what gets me fired up.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's when I see those signs at the convention that say mass deportations now. And it's like, yes, yes. I want you to hire 100,000 new people who are looking for them, who are digging them up, who are shipping them out. Put them in camps. Do we need to put them in camps first to organize them and put them in the camps? Just put them on a bus down to fucking Mexico, and it's Mexico's problem. They've been facilitating so much of this for how many years? Fuck them for doing this.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I just have no—if they're here illegally, they should go. We should get them out. They should leave. And I'm just so for that, and're here illegally, they should go. We should, we should get them out. They should leave. And, and I'm just so for that. And it makes so much sense to me that I, whenever, when I hear Medicare for all, I'm like, fuck. Yeah, that sounds cool. Let's do it. All who though?
Starting point is 00:21:16 What about those 11 million that just snuck in and the 20 million that were already here before that? Oh, they already get free healthcare when they show up. There's only like that. That's like 10% of our fucking population like wait what like if you want to have universal health there's roughly 320 million americans or something like that like if there's 30 million illegals on top of that i don't know okay no if we're counting that but that's roughly 10 of the population of america is illegal immigrants and just imagine if they illegal immigrants. Just imagine if we were importing
Starting point is 00:21:47 white people from a right-wing country somewhere and using them for the census to determine congressional seats. Just moving millions of polls into swing states. That just doesn't sound right, Kyle. One in every 10 people in America is an illegal immigrant. Not in Raleigh, North Carolina. Well, okay. But like anywhere I go, I travel around the country a good amount.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I don't think one in every 10 people I bump into is an illegal immigrant. Does that sound right? Does that sound like your high school? Does that sound like your experience just living in America? One in ten? Maybe more. That's where you go. That's why we should all have our papers on us at all times.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And if you don't present your papers immediately upon request, then right into the van. Right into the van. It's a higher number than I expected. Pew Research says 11 million it's been 11 million since like 2002 hasn't it uh in 2002 it was well so i have every five years in 2000 it was 8.6 million uh it looked like on this thing it peaked in 08 at 12.2 million it went
Starting point is 00:23:02 down through 2020 to 10.2 and then to 11. I don't understand how that works. I'm sorry. Is that total number of illegals within the country? And how do we even count them? I don't know. I'm only as good as my source, which I linked in there, this Pew Research source. If you scroll down a bit, I'm looking at that first chart.
Starting point is 00:23:22 My thought is the whole thing is that it's people sneaking into the country and trying to stay under the radar. So it might be hard to keep tabs and count them accurately. It's like... Yes. Yeah, that's why I'm like, I don't know. Pew Research sounds like... It doesn't sound like, you know, illegal... Well, let's say it's 10 million.
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's still too many. Like 10 is too many. I thought I was going to see like one. right that's still too many like like 10 is too many i thought i was gonna see like one but and again when i used to think about it i would picture like families um and um and like single mothers with three kids just just trying to like like she works as a maid and it won't cut it in mexico she needs an american maid job i that's not it when when you go and like see what's going on down there now that i've been fucking thing just like camilla they did dig up a photo of her today she has been to the border
Starting point is 00:24:11 before it happened one time her hair is so short it's like what year was that um anyway um it's a lot of africans it's a lot of black people from africa in the Middle East and they've got coming through Mexico I if you I watched the Andrew Callahan video he's that channel 5 guy who's like as indie as it gets he's just a dude with a cameraman going places and doing weird shit and he's they like kind of sneak around the back and they've got like 90 of these guys sort of sitting out there Indian style uh feathers not dots and um they're all black and they're asking like where are you from and it's it's some of the it's those little tiny african nations so i don't know what you're trinidad i'm seeing three percent are from africa but there are
Starting point is 00:25:00 black people from the caribbean which is three percent like kamala's people yeah um and here i'll just show you what i've been trying to understand her her uh genetic what am i looking for racial background she's half she's half indian which is dot and he's half black jamaican so I just learned a new term foundational black. Have you heard this term before? No, I don't think so. It it's not a racist or scary.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It foundational black refers to like descendants of slaves and it comes with a certain culture. And what do they call it? African American vernacular. And you know, and then there's the other kinds of blacks people like chocolate thunder our friend who are from nigeria directly people who are from jamaica they're not foundational blacks the people who play we don't know them shit they owe us for immigrating in so she's not a foundational black which some black people feel like she's not one of us apparently but uh this is something all
Starting point is 00:26:06 i knew i learned recently yeah i actually i suspected that that's what a foundational black was or whatever because i was last night i was reading about her um her parents a little bit and um because it's i what i wanted to know and it's just this little anecdote but i wanted to know, and it's just this little anecdote, but I wanted to know if her ancestors owned slaves. Because currently the only president whose ancestors didn't own slaves was Donald Trump. Even Obama's ancestors owned slaves. On his dad's side or his mom's side? I don't know. On the black side or the white?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Okay, yeah. I've heard that too i assume it's true like i've heard the same thing that'd be doubly fun if if his if his like the black side of his family were the slave owners right i yeah i don't know it's possible i mean what like there's the i was a businessman doing business you know the like the story of liberia like we've talked about that oh sure Oh, sure. We all do. Yeah, yeah. Where after slavery, a bunch of blacks were like,
Starting point is 00:27:11 the U.S. government was like, we'll move you back to Africa. You want to go back to Africa? We'll send you back. You can start your own country based on our constitution. And a bunch of former slaves did that. And the first thing they did is enslave all the locals in Liberia. The first thing. Because slavery is common everywhere on earth it took like england and france and the u.s like to to end it everywhere like it ended in a lot of their colonies i should say there were a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:38 other places on earth like mexico that had already ended it but yeah like you go far back enough everybody's ancestors on slaves. Slavery is the global norm. To be in a period of not having slavery is the rare, unique time. You know what I mean? I think it'll be the norm going... No slaves will be the norm going forward. There's still countries with
Starting point is 00:27:58 slavery. Like the United States of America. We have slavery right here. They just figured out it didn't make sense to actually house and feed them. First of all, we never abolished slavery. We abolished some of the forms of it, but not all of them. That's literally what prison is, like that indentured labor in a prison. It is slave labor.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, but if you try and kill someone and we have to lock you up, I'm fine with that person being forced to make license plates. You forfeited your right to not have to make license plates when you killed that person. Okay. So it wasn't a... Well, I mean, think about that. If you've already decided that there are things that you can do where that right is just taken from you forever, was it really a right at all? You can't take rights away. No, you can't. I have a problem with it from a different perspective, Taylor. I wonder if I can change your mind. My issue is it's anti-capitalism. If you were in the market of making shoes, and then all of a sudden prisons got into the shoe market
Starting point is 00:28:52 and they had free labor, you'd be like, what the fuck? I'm trying to make a profit here on my fucking Zappos, and now someone else goes into business with slaves. That's not fair to anyone else. So I don't know how to use slave labor, prisoners in a way that doesn't upset somebody else
Starting point is 00:29:11 who tried to make a living doing that. I don't know. Maybe they fix cars. You pay them a fair wage. Why? It's that easy. That's just crazy talk. No, actually, that's really good. You pay them a fair wage and it's solved. You pay them the market wage. That fixes the whole thing. What really good idea. You pay them a fair wage and it's solved. You pay them the market wage. What?
Starting point is 00:29:26 That fixes the whole thing. What do you mean, why pay them? And look, if you want to take that money and filter it right back into the prison, you'd have some sick prisons where the guys worked hard and they had big screens. Imagine, that's how it should be. Kyle, I have another idea. I don't know if it's better than yours. But what if they were saving money this time?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like we gave it to, I don't know how. Okay. I've got two thoughts in my head. Let me get them both out. One, Mr. Beast was on the show and he told us he gave 10 grand to a homeless person,
Starting point is 00:29:54 which I thought was very nice. And he says, no, it turns out that's a mistake. If you give 10 grand to a homeless person, it seems like an act of kindness, but it's more likely to ruin that person's life. Did he make a video about that?
Starting point is 00:30:08 No, he told me. Oh, you were in prison. He was on the show when he said it. I know. And so it was kind of eye-opening to me because I was like, oh, shit, I thought giving money to a homeless guy would help him. But it turns out it ruins them more often than not. Okay, so that's one thing. But the other, I'm like, when you leave prison, not Kyle, but a lot of people are broke when they leave prison and they're really starting
Starting point is 00:30:30 off from a hole. Not only do they have no money and no way to like rent a place and get back on their feet, but it's difficult for them to get a job because they have this label next to their name. So what if while they were in prison, they were learning skills and building a nest egg so that they could rejoin society a better way is it my ideal where this works out really well or the mr beast truth where we're giving bad people lots of cash to make terrible decisions i let them have i mean look they're a lot less likely to-offend the moment they step out the door if they've got $15,000 stuck away that they can liquefy somewhere. I just think that what I don't like is the idea of a private prison, which means a rich dude somewhere, owning the rights to 1,500 men in Alabama and their workforce. And he essentially has a plantation of mostly black people in Alabama. And he can go to any business he wants in that area if they need.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And he can flex all of that muscle against them politically. He not not literal muscle, but he can sort of be like, if you want our contract, of course, we come in at three dollars. They at seven. Oh, I like how your slave master sound in this example. I don't pay these boys. Yeah. Take a look at Edgar here. He's the best shoemaker you ever done. You're cutting your nose off. You're cutting your nose off to spite your face if you refuse to pay these prisoners because yeah you denied those hard-working prisoners they're they're fair wage but what really happened was like whoever was supposed to be cutting that
Starting point is 00:32:14 grass picking up that trash mending those trees or making those shoes stamping out those license plates whatever the fuck they're getting screwed and. And the whole business is all ships in the fucking rise with the tide or whatever. Everybody's lowering with the tide of slave labor being pumped out of this fucking prison, which has government funding
Starting point is 00:32:38 in most cases anyway. These sweetheart fucking deals. It's not like they're paying market value for that chili I was eating, that Brushy Greek chili. The finest chili in Talladega, Alabama. That phrasing you had of whoever was supposed to be making shoes, stamping license plate, etc. is the one I was
Starting point is 00:32:54 searching for. That's the anti-capitalism part of it that doesn't sit right with me. Yeah, slave labor is a bad idea as soon as you figure out the cotton gym. I don't like private prisons. The idea of that is just weird. All of them?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah. It's bad in theory, but we've had it in practice long enough to know it's bad in practice. Taylor's just right from every direction on this. We've seen judges get convicted and locked up for sending innocent people to private prisons for kickbacks this is this whole system is a bad thing yeah if you incentivize stuff like
Starting point is 00:33:33 that like it doesn't matter i guess the the way you get way too many people on certain kinds of prescription drugs because you tell doctors hey i'm mr pfizer here you get you get more patients on ssri's little sweet little kickback for you and what you end up with like it's the same way Because you tell doctors, hey, I'm Mr. Pfizer here. You get more patients on SSRIs. A sweet little kickback for you and what you end up with. It's the same way we have so much corn. You subsidize behaviors, you get more of those behaviors. And so if you tell a bunch of farmers that their corn is subsidized, they don't give a fuck. You tell a bunch of doctors to subsidize SSRIs, they're going to promote it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It's like an ethical thing. There's no right or wrong answer our tax code subsidizes behaviors uh one thing that comes to mind quickly is the child care tax credit right so if you have kids they sort of lighten up your wallet a little bit to help parents who are still raising kids you're paid to have kids yeah sure and um this is in the eyes of the government considered good behavior uh People who own homes, right? Not rent, but own homes. They tend to be better citizens. They're a little more invested in the area that they live.
Starting point is 00:34:32 They care about their schools. Even if they have kids, they might care about the schools a little bit where people rent in there, don't give a darn. So there's a mortgage tax deduction. The interest on your mortgage is tax deductible. tax deduction, the interest on your mortgage is tax deductible. There's a dozen examples, dozens and dozens of examples of how they use the tax code to modify American behavior in a positive way. Do you think that's wrong to do? No, no. It's like subsidizing positive, socially healthy behaviors is always a good thing. Like subsidizing people having more kids, healthy behaviors is always a good thing.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Subsidizing people having more kids, that's good. Subsidizing healthy behaviors is good. It's where you subsidize stuff that ends up with more people on unneeded SSRIs or more people in prison than you actually need because they smoked weed and this judge is crooked or some shit.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It's a very powerful tool. You just have to use it for things that are generative in our society. I agree with you. There are smart smart well-meaning people on the other side of it too we're on the same side yeah i mean i guess subsidies in general are neither good nor bad yeah it depends what you're subsidizing if you almost need some people think any government you know putting their thumb on the scale of any behavior at all is immoral. Small government, get out of my hair, in every regard possible. Yeah, we're never going back to small government.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It's a crazy pipe dream. You need to make sure our large government is doing things that are good for citizens, the best you can. need to make sure our large government is doing things that are good for for citizens the best on the on the note of like it probably doesn't matter who's the president when it comes to like really smart things it's it seems like we recognize during the trump administration how far we were behind how far behind we were with semiconductors and a lot of a lot of high-tech electronics that components that were being produced in Asia and really subsidized and put down roots here to just take that back.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It seems like they got it done. It seems like they were like, hey, all bullshit aside, we shouldn't have all of our high-tech parts made over there. They don't like us. They're putting stuff in. Look, they're putting stuff in our stuff so that they can
Starting point is 00:36:44 monitor us. I remember, what was it? I think it's a trash can or a mop that this lady had that was not Bluetooth, but it connected to her Wi-Fi. And it's like sending metadata back to a server in China about her mopping habits or something. I don't know. Probably not that.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It's probably fairly innocent. I'm sure it's stealing a lot of her data and sending it to China for whatever nefarious purposes, no doubt. But I doubt it's world-ending stuff. It's more like some corporation has found a way to monetize their mops in a new way and they're selling the metadata to whoever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:37:20 But that's still scary nonetheless. That chip sack was a democratic achievement. I feel like was a Democratic achievement. I feel like all that. Yeah. There were three senators that voted for it from the Republican side. They were McConnell, Romney and Lindsey Graham. And then every 18 and then every Democrat except Bernie Sanders voted for it.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I don't know what Bernie's problem was, but I usually think i'm pretty much in favor of anything that brings back like jobs manufacturing here especially in this the furtherance of like not being vulnerable and potential future conflicts like you know what i would be having a global having probably our number one global rival not probably who else but china is our like a like it's it's fucking china i agree letting them make a huge bulk of our medicine letting them be so close to where uh our chips are produced and so much influence there like that is a that's geopolitically a disaster that's that stuff needs to be made here so that when shit hits the fan we're not in a ridiculous situation where it's like oh no it turns out we didn't foresee a country of a billion obese people needing insulin, you know, right just now.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I agree with you, but it leaves me confused. And this is why I really want Americans to be able to easily buy medicine from outside America. I hate that we pay sixty nine thousand dollars for some medicine that an Indian is paying a hundred dollars for. Like this is bullshit. Why is America? That's a real example. I wish I could remember the medicine. It is.
Starting point is 00:38:50 They, they broke our like trademark law or copyright law or whatever the fuck. And we're just like, did it. Yeah. So, um, and I feel like that kind of thing couldn't happen if we could be like,
Starting point is 00:39:03 what? 69 grand here and 100 bucks there? I'm buying from Canada. Fuck you. And Trump did something like that. I don't know why it hasn't changed everything, but he made it so that you could buy drugs from Canada. I don't know if it's all drugs or what. Mark Cuban's thing.
Starting point is 00:39:17 He's really good about that stuff too. Every time I look for a drug, he doesn't sell it. But I love the idea of his service it's possible that the drugs you need are like not life-saving drugs and maybe they've tried to prioritize things that had like huge inflation rates but that's talking my ass with that just colin is on an s-r-r-i i forget don't judge me, Taylor. He struggles. You would approve if you knew. If you knew, you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:39:48 yeah, all right, he's the one. And it's expensive. I want to say we get it. We have a coupon that lowers it from like $800 to $400 a month. Yeah, that's a lot. It shouldn't be that expensive.
Starting point is 00:40:03 It shouldn't make it so that you can no longer buy drugs from Canada if it's better but it's just a matter of national security we wouldn't want our tanks being made in Colombia we shouldn't have our medicine made in Asia or our chips made solely
Starting point is 00:40:20 in Asia or the Middle East or wherever a lot of that has moved back here if you were playing Civ, Kyle, and you were like, I got this giant big empire, everything's going great, but all of X, Y, and Z essential product is produced right adjacent to an enemy.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Would you go, everything's going good. Like, let's just keep on keeping on. Or would you immediately act to rectify that? I think with slow to start up industries and industries that require a lot of groundwork, infrastructure and specialized personnel, those need need to be in the homeland. It on the other hand, keep making all of our bullshit that we could flip a switch and turn that factory in Detroit on and start cranking out because the savings have to be ridiculous. There's a reason that stuff is made in China or Indonesia or India. Lawn chairs are not a matter of national security. So if we want to keep lawn chairs, I think that's fine.
Starting point is 00:41:16 But things that could be national security items, but if we wanted to, we could just make them here. It would just cost 30% more. I'm fine with that being over there too. The medicines, keep making them. Y'all are good at it. Y'all are good at it. Things are going well so far. Oh, you think we could do it quickly here. It would just cost 30% more. I'm fine with that being over there too. The medicines, keep making them. Y'all are good at it. Y'all are good at it. Things are going well so far. Oh, I don't know about
Starting point is 00:41:31 if we're making... If we need to turn on the aspirin factory, sure. But I don't know what it takes to turn on the vaccine factory. Trump did it pretty fast. Yeah. Or whoever Trump told to do it i mean trump has no expertise in such things well you know like i hold myself to this standard do it it's like if a democrat
Starting point is 00:41:52 was in that chair when it happened i would say hillary got it done quickly you know so i should give trump that same credit yeah i think any president was going to get it done quickly that that had enough common sense to to like get the fire lit under their ass. Because you just had to be like, go, go. Who's the best at this? Get them. That's all I need from a leader. I need them to go, who's the best at this and the smartest? Get them here. Let me talk to them real quick. Okay, now go do it or you're fired. Did you see the Secret Service lady resign today? Did you see the Secret Service lady resign today? I did.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, resigned. I like to consider her fired. She was getting, Taylor, I don't know if you know, but they brought her in front of Congress, and both the red and the blue team held her to the fire. What was the beating? There was a Raskin. I forget which Democrat it was, but he's like, let me explain to you in case you're confused.
Starting point is 00:42:46 This isn't going well for you at all. This is going terribly. You are giving us less information and worse answers than you gave the press before you got here. You can't seem to remember anything. You can't seem to recall. You always have to check with something. And she basically tried to go in front of Congress in Stonewall and got fired the next day.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. It's like, do you want to make it look like there's a giant cover-up going on? Because that's how you act, is like a weirdo who doesn't... Oh, they're going the other way. They're saying, I'm not safe. Your agents are who keep me safe. I don't feel safe now. Everyone, like what he he said beat the shit
Starting point is 00:43:25 out of her it was hilarious and also infuriating at the same time how do you not get fired the day that you fail that badly and because you didn't have any information they needed to wait until we had all the facts although they're every new fact there's little tidbits that roll out, it's like, oh, well, that makes it worse for you. This is like, ooh, this is even worse for you now. They observed that guy with a range finder an hour and a half before Trump was shot. Who amongst us doesn't bring range finders to rallies, Kyle? Stop making it look suspicious. They asked this guy. They had a guy
Starting point is 00:44:06 in a military-ish uniform, maybe a police captain, and they look very similar. I don't know what the fuck he was, but an older fellow. They're like, hey, if you had received a report, as the Secret Service did, of a young man with a rangefinder looking at the event
Starting point is 00:44:21 100 yards from the stage, how would you have reacted? Well, obviously there are some innocent reasons to have a rangefinder legal reasons, but I would deem that highly suspicious and act accordingly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 If any of us were in charge of a secret security detail or even if it was our first day, if we were there and we're in our little suits and it's our day one and they're like taylor you're protecting the president and i was like fill out hey is that is that our guy and some guys like no no that's not our guy immediately in my head i'm like i'm gonna have a wikipedia page i'm gonna save america and i'd go over there and i'd handle it because like you don't have to
Starting point is 00:45:05 be a genius to be like oh the guy in the cop outfit oh no that's not a cop outfit that's like what an iron maiden shirt or some shit like or a youtube shirt like that this guy very clearly was not anything other than a threat to trump like it's bizarre how this went out hearing they were like hey you said you're gonna hold the person accountable you know who didn't secure that roof does that mean you'll fire him and she's like well hard to say and they're like
Starting point is 00:45:36 you said you hold them accountable do you think they'll get fired for this and she's there's a lot of things basically it was like he's gonna get a strongly worded email and now she's fired what would he have to do There's a lot of things. Basically, it was like he's going to get a strongly worded email. And now she's fired. What would he have to do to be fired from your organization, man? Would he have to shoot Donald Trump himself or maybe wing one of us up here?
Starting point is 00:45:59 That would be my next question. What is a firing offense at your organization. I wonder if any Secret Service agents kept their job after, like, Kennedy or Reagan getting shot or all that stuff. Were they as blasé about it back then? The Reagan one, I know less about. The Kennedy one, I give them a little sympathy
Starting point is 00:46:19 because he was an amazing shot. Kyle probably knows every detail, but he was like so hot. He was very high up in the book depository. It's a hard one. I don't know where he was, but he was in that bookstore. Very high up.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And he made a really long shot. And it's like, oh, were they supposed to secure every building in like, what is it, Houston? Dallas? Dallas, I think. In Dallas? Yeah. Kennedy went against the Secret Service recommendations. I think
Starting point is 00:46:52 that route was in question, but definitely they wanted him in a car with a fucking roof on it. He was riding around in a convertible. Did y'all forget? Yeah. They don't do that anymore. Mr. President, let's not pop the top here in Houston. It's an election and you are Irish.
Starting point is 00:47:10 If someone's hit a two-kilometer shot on Trump's year at that rally, I'd be like, oh, okay. Well, now we need to change the way we do things. We didn't know this was a risk factor. That would be one thing. So that, to me, is how I see the Kennedy one. The Reagan one, I'm very uninformed, so I don't know. But the Trump one,
Starting point is 00:47:31 dude, children could see this. Dude, that whole setup with the building and the stage, if that were a paintball course, I'd be like, they didn't even fucking add anywhere to hide or run around. There's one building. This is the worst painful course of all.
Starting point is 00:47:46 There was nowhere else for a guy to try to shoot him from except for right where he shot Trump. Imagine a Call of Duty map. Well, there was, though. It was the only place to cover. There was, though. It's even worse. Carefully wording this. Someone who wanted to do that bad thing, they'd have immediately went to that building or they'd have went like straight uh if at the president's 12 o'clock like straight
Starting point is 00:48:15 where he's looking over there like 300 meters maybe 400 is like a water tower and another building that's where someone would be if they were a sniper. They'd be making a 400 or 500 meter shot from a weird location. You know, in the movies, they cut a chain link fence or they go backward. People aren't supposed to go. Maybe they got to kill a guard
Starting point is 00:48:41 who was keeping that place secure just to get into that perch. Or they're making such a long range shot. They're like, yeah, it's not feasible. No, it was none of those things. It was not even close. It was. I don't think I've ever shot four or 500 yards.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Could you hit? I'm trying not to act like we're doing it, but like a body, you know? Yeah. Assuming you're not going for a headshot, right? I'll tell you a story that makes me look cool okay let me tell you a self-serving tale uh um when i was like early 20s my uh my dad's um the company representative from my from the poultry company was uh over talking to my dad on his back porch. He had brought his rifle over there. He needed it, um, set. He needed the scope set or whatever. And, uh, he had a Remington 700, uh, 308 and dad had dialed the thing in really well. And, uh, and the guy was
Starting point is 00:49:38 still missing with it. And he was like, I don't know if it's set. i sat down and i said do you see the the target at 550 he's like yep and i went at 550 meters and i shot a target about the size of a pie plate very nonchalantly with not with a set scope with just i knew where to aim above the target the idea that you would like if you if you know what the range is you can dial your scope in then it's like call of duty then it's easier than call of duty like the new i don't know if the i think the new cod is like hit scan or whatever where like you don't have to aim above it but like if you ever played a game with trajectory with bullet drop then you know like three or 400 meter shots can be hard but if you if fucking thing's ranged, you just put it on the target and squeeze.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And there are some really high powered scopes out there. I know that like when I read about what's his name, Carlos Hapcock or whatever. The Vietnam sniper. Yeah, his famous book Sniper. Most of the time he was using a really low power scope like maybe an eight power or a 10 power even maybe less than that i would use a 32 power you nurdle scope sometimes for for long range shots you know a bench or yeah yeah i wonder if that's less effective when the target's hard to find so if people oh well it's different. You don't have experience looking through a scope listener.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Um, you know, a nine power scope will let you see kind of the broad thing. And you can look around a 32 power scope. I mean, gosh, you're looking at a guy's earlobe at 300 yards. So good luck finding them. Maybe that's an exaggeration,
Starting point is 00:51:19 but yeah, you wouldn't use one of those scopes for like sniping, I suppose. But my point is like, you can get high powered scopes that are, you know, adjustable power. Like you can go from four to 40, whatever you want to do. But no, that's a super easy shot. The 130 meter or whatever it is, they go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:51:37 100 to 140 yard shot that the guy had. Not only does it seem like he was on point and Trump just happened to weirdly move his head, certainly not the hand of God. Um, but it's an easy shot. Like it's a really easy shot. If you've got a scope, if he had a red dot or like a, some sort of, you know, close range optic, then it's pretty hard shot. If you, you know, after the first one, you know, you might, after the first one, you're going pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. If you don't know what you're doing, you're really not getting anywhere near your target. You're missing by feet.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I'm not a terrible shot, but I'm certainly not special by any stretch of the imagination. At 110 yards, because my range is 100 meters, so at 110 yards, I can put three shots in a quarter, like one in three times, you know, I usually get one outside the quarter. And if you were to like, imagine a square dollar, like the small way I could do that 10 out of 10 times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good shooting. Um, a lot of rifles that's about as accurate as a lot of rifles will shoot in like a one inch group at 100 um i think you'd do better i'm not that good i probably have better i probably have the
Starting point is 00:52:51 right equipment though because like like when we would do bench rest shooting at 100 meter 100 and 300 meter bench rest shooting you know you're on a not even a bench it was all concrete it was like a concrete park bench type situation with those big leathery um things to put your gun on that it's your gun is solid as a rock then the gun you use for that is like a remington 40xb with a really heavy barrel really heavy stock big powerful scope and the rifle just kind of sits there like a rock and you kind of you're almost adjusting it like it's a telescope and then you're squeezing a trigger that's beyond sensitive. It's three ounces or something like that instead of
Starting point is 00:53:28 a pound and a half that you might have on something else. Who's the Nazi who makes sure you obey all the safety rules at a range? Is he a marshal? A range master? He seemed disappointed that all my bullets didn't go in the same hole. I'm trying to get better here.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Why are you being an asshole? That's why I'm here to practice. If I could do that, I wouldn't be here. Yeah, that's silly. I mean, you want them to touch. At that point, when you're getting that accurate, you start dialing in special ammos that that work better in your in your barrel you start worrying about the the barrels hot or cold when you begin there's lots of stuff if you're going beyond those those sub one inch groups at 100 yards when you
Starting point is 00:54:15 want all the bullets sometimes it'll be a hole but it'll look like mickey mouse you know right right if you can improve on that you can you can actually get them all into a slightly bigger than normal hole. Totally unrelated. I've made a bad decision I'm excited about. I'm currently installing Elden Ring. Elden Ring, the video game. Dude, it's all over my little internet universe, right? The algorithm keeps feeding it to me.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I keep watching it, and i'm watching eldon ring cosplay girlfriends play eldon ring tricks on their boyfriends and i'm just eldon ring porn i have to see it literally no do we play together like like can can is it is it like open world no it's a single player game oh but oh that's right taylor how does it work like how does let me solo her help me if that's only in boss battles, I think. I think you go to like a separate arena. Like you go to an area and then like a boss battle begins and you're kind of in a little arena.
Starting point is 00:55:11 And maybe during that phase they can invade or whatever. I thought it was because I thought the other Dark Souls games, I thought they were all single player. Is that not? Oh, wait, let me read what Zach wrote. Yes, one of the unique features of elden ring is the ability to play co-op with anyone playing the game with the usage of a few items and following some steps players need to make themselves discoverable and can then summon
Starting point is 00:55:34 others in their game you can all work together to vanquish boss fights i wonder if that's pretty cool how does it impact everybody's like save Let's say, for example, Kyle's some awesome Elden Ring player and I join him. Does that mean I've got that far in the campaign? Or if I join him, do I not make any progress personally? I wonder. I've only played maybe a dozen
Starting point is 00:55:58 hours of this shit. I have a tentative grasp on what progressing through the campaign even means. But it felt to me, again, in my 12 hours, it felt to me like this was not a paint-by-numbers kind of thing. Some areas are just tougher than others, so you want to sort of pick around the hard parts. But it didn't seem like there was much of a story. I mean, finding the first NPC took me an hour.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Like, the first guy to talk to you know like like like i think i'm gonna look for help online because i want that your experience seems really common that a bunch of people are like first of all watch the forest rabbits they're like boss characters in any other game you know like that i took me an hour to find anything i was supposed to find i ventured off in the wrong direction which is impossible until your character is built up and i'm like oh shucks i i should avoid some of these pitfalls yeah there's a from elden ring will be like oh this dude underestimated the lilac meadow welcome to the thunderdome the bad place but no people the butterflies are
Starting point is 00:57:10 swarming the butterflies are swarming there's like a little roman village uh like when you begin the game you come out of this tomb or whatever and there's this big tree over there and then there's this big enormous knight riding around i don't know what he's called but he's a fucking terror to behold and if you go kind you go to your right
Starting point is 00:57:26 to your three o'clock for three minutes, you run into a Roman village or some shit where there's a bunch of soldiers. Oh my god. I would go there and die over and over and over. You'd have to cheese them. You'd have to
Starting point is 00:57:41 antagonize them and hurt a few and then run and run and run and then come back and hurt them some more their dog got me a couple times oh of course they had like a pack of them i was treating him he was a skyrim dog where it's like one quick dispatch but no this thing was like dodging and attacking me and i know i'm fucked i at my peak i never claimed to be Optic Scum or whoever What's his name? Midnight No, he starts with a scum That's what I was going for
Starting point is 00:58:12 I never claimed to be Octic Scum or Rambo, whoever you want But When I was at my best, I was someone who would probably Help your team It was good to have around That's not me anymore I played Doom not long ago and i was like we're gonna lower the difficulty for this part of the game so now i'm jumping in elder
Starting point is 00:58:33 rig it's gonna be a mistake but i just have to see it i mean hopefully you have on turn the uh like just a controller for that wait what yeah i do hear elden ring i do hear it's better on it's kind of like um diablo and that you can play it with ring i do hear it's better on it's kind of like um diablo and that you can play it with mouse and keyboard but it's like formatted for controller play oh by the way i i started on keyboard and and and i was complaining to everybody i was like guys it's just so goddamn hard i'm like i don't even know what i'm doing i'm just fighting bats in a meadow and i don't i don't and they're like i've ever seen in a video game i'm fighting these bats in a meadow and i win half the time and and every time i die it seems like it
Starting point is 00:59:10 resets me to the very beginning and i don't know what to do and they're like oh are you you're not playing on keyboard are you i'm like yes ah problem solved get yourself controller when got the best controller things are like 300300 of sales now and fucking still got owned even harder. It was worse. I was like, I was doing okay on the keyboard. I could at least keep my head pointed the right direction. Now I'm looking
Starting point is 00:59:36 at the sky. You're just not a controller gamer anymore. I had a controller for a decade. Have you heard of this game Chivalry? Chivalry 2 oh yeah i played a ton of it i played a little this night i might have played the first one yeah it's like this open world battling medieval game and i watched a couple of my friends play it it's not open world is it not open world uh great battle royale whatever it's called it's it's more like uh
Starting point is 01:00:02 it's more like battlefield where you, where you got two opposing sides and you're fighting over territory and doing medieval nonsense, like loading catapults and stuff to win the overall game. But it's a... I don't know how many players in that game, but I'm going to call it 50 versus 50.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah, it's like 64 versus 64, I think. It's a shit show. Like when you look over there and see the opposing army, you got to stay with your boys. You go over there and they get you. Hundreds of people. I played the first chivalry, so I don't know how chivalry two differs. But I'd be running around.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I'm ready to play. I'm not good at all. But I go against other players who were also bad, and I'd be holding my own. I got third manned in all the time. It seemed like half of the game was making sure that you were in a situation that if there is a third man, it's your man. I play the archer.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I'm over there just like, fuck you! Fuck you too! Fuck you! Oh no, they sue me! They sue me! That doesn't count as a loss. There were two of them. I was watching my buddy play and they're both pretty new, but they were streaming on Discord the other night and I was watching one. He was running around
Starting point is 01:01:10 with his fucking war hammer or whatever and he's like, oh, ballista. I've never gotten to use one of the ballistas before and it hits people in this game the way it does in the Battle of Helm's Deep where it just carries them on. It just launches you with it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 One hit kill, obviously, you're not sticking around after that. And if you... There's friendly fire in this melee game. It's not like, you know, all the time. And so, like, sometimes I would see him swing
Starting point is 01:01:35 and it'd be like, team damage, because he accidentally popped his own guy in the top of the helmet. And I watched him take potshots into a battle crowd and no less than six times, it was just team damage. Team damage.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Team damage. Team damage. He didn't even accidentally hit an enemy. He single-handedly lost in the war. By losing that position. Does he know what he's doing? He wasn't trying to do that. He was like, I got the angle down angle down kind of I just need to stop hitting
Starting point is 01:02:06 teammates just ka-thunk and it could have been like two people impaled at once so this game looks pretty fun and it looks like there's a real knack to the combat because I watched my friend who had played it like you know probably 20 hours total so still not that experienced and at least he was
Starting point is 01:02:22 parrying and everything I watched my other buddy who had just downloaded it and like every single fight was just him getting beheaded the timing see i don't i don't like games that have the whole thing is understanding all the cues and memorizing the timing for dozens of weapons and it's not as if you can't faint anyway you can you can start uh like an overhand cleave motion and then arrest it really quick and then quickly reverse that into like a, like an uppercut type slash. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:02:50 the other guy has to recognize that faint coming and like, like double block. And it's like, man, this is a little, so much for me. I just wanted to have a slashy game. I got my ass handed to me.
Starting point is 01:03:00 There's a reason I was, I was the Archer. Cause I did not want to, when they come at me, I just get out my little dagger and just... Oh, my God, dude. I literally saw that in the game. I only saw one archer character, but my buddy was like...
Starting point is 01:03:12 Their team was really struggling. They were like the Iranians or the Persians or whatever charging a crusader castle. And they're like, oh, I found him. I found an archer. And there was just this guy like dumb face standing there like panic, miss, pulls out the tiniest knife I'd seen on the battlefield and there was just this guy, like, dumb-faced standing there, like, panic, miss, pulls out the tiniest knife I'd seen on the battlefield and just gets beheaded. So I guess if you stumble upon an archer, you're as good as dead. It's just like if it were real combat, you know, you really need, unless you're Legolas.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I mean, if you hit your shots, you could be kind of affected. If you were just headshotting people up close, they could never get close to you. But it's hard. It's hard to click click there's a lot of nonsense going like so many deaths were just like oh it looks like he's doing a good job in this combat oh no no he got stabbed in the back bed there's no way to see that coming like this you want to be arching behind your boys you know like supported and and playing that antagonizing role where some poor guys doing okay and it's 1v1 and you're like no you, you're not. Pink! You cripple that guy up and help your teammates that way
Starting point is 01:04:09 because I certainly couldn't wait into the thick of it and start taking people out with that thing. I'd like to see a game like that get more popular. You know, a sword fighting melee type game. Yeah, it looks really cool. I think I'm going to buy it and download it and tinker with it. What, Chivalry? Yeah, Chivalry 2.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Can you play that on the controller? I think it's supposed... You can on the controller, right? I don't know what to recommend. I would do either one. Whatever is preferred. I'm not going to go to a controller anyway. I'll play some Chivalry if you download Chivalry.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I'll download it, yeah. I'm real bad, but I'll play. Last time I played it, I remember getting frustrated with how bad I was, but I also didn't have anyone to play with. Pestily and I yesterday had the most successful AOE 2v2 session of all time. We went 8-0, which just does not happen. We were rolling people. So shout out to Pestily.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Having a good time with him. I guess he added me to this other Discord of a lot of YouTubers because I guess a lot of those gun YouTubers like TarkovRust, the big pros there, I guess they all play AoE too. And so I'll be rolling with them a little bit, trying it out.
Starting point is 01:05:24 He's fun to play with. He's good. He knows what he's doing. We're at similar levels, which is helpful for team games. Ask him if he's C-Terminator 2. Ask him of what? If he's C-Terminator 2. Go ahead, Woody.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I was going to say, I've heard this story twice, Taylor, and his success. And it warms my heart because it's like, guys, something really good happened. Yeah, guys, I made a friend. I'm happy for you. I feel like Taylor's been on heroin, this game, AOE, for a while. It's so addictive. And just any time he shows any interest in a better way out, he's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I'm kind of feeling like a jog. I'm like, yeah, be sick man let's go out for a jog you know i kind of want fruit smoothies and maybe like get some sun today yes that's what we i me so much so when he mentions chivalry too i'm like ah i'll wear my helmet let's go ready to go where's my breastplate i would try it. It looks fun. But I can also see it. I've got a codpiece already. I'm ready. I'm prepared. Like I was watching a battle last night
Starting point is 01:06:33 and there was one cosmetic where it's just like instead of a helmet, they're wearing a demonic goat head. And my buddy is like, oh, fuck. It's one of the goat head guys. I've never come across a goat head guy that didn't totally fuck me up. And then he just gets
Starting point is 01:06:48 manhandled by the goat head guy. I'm like, oh, I guess that's a rule of battle. Beware the goat heads. And that guy in Elden Ring who just wears like a bucket on his head and he's naked. Oh, yeah. Let me solo her. That was his character. I saw him
Starting point is 01:07:04 tweeting or something about how hard the new dlc was what yeah apparently the new dlc for that game not only is it one of those dlcs where it's like this is like a sequel almost this is like a whole this is a huge addition to this game uh and people are pretty psyched about that But it's also apparently one of the hardest. Everybody's saying it's too hard. I've seen streamers just dozens and dozens of hours into one boss and people who were normally good at the game really struggling with it. I don't want any part of Elden Ring, man. That game whooped me so bad.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's possible I'm just bad at that game or that type of game. Or maybe I was just disinterested but the way i remember it is that i really wanted to like this thing that everybody liked which is where you are now and it didn't like me back so do you know i mentioned mitch a time or two this is colin's friend he stays in our guest house now um he beat elden ring um he's kind of cool he's in fucking georgia right now doing stunt work like as a stunt man but um cool uh anyway so i have a guy to tap into for advice who's around all the time you hand him hand the control to him every now and then i mean i didn't even think of that advice what am i doing yeah show me how it's done. Put your hands on my hands.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Don't make it weird. Come on. How am I going to learn unless we do this? I'm sorry. Is my guest house nice enough? The least you can do is do this for me. Here's what happened. He needed a place to live and he
Starting point is 01:08:46 asked about the guest house and jackie and i were like do we want him to live in the guest house or not and we were like i actually i think it'd be nice if he was there it'd be like a win for our family if he lives so nearby so i went to zillow and i looked at every rent in raleigh carry apex night like the nearing six towns and i beat every rent on zillow within like looked at every rent in Raleigh, Cary apex night, like the nearing six towns. And I beat every rent on Zillow within like 70 miles. And he's like, yeah, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I was like, yeah, I thought you might be. Yeah. I also called this one place and he was a drug addict. Unfortunately, that spread back to his family and make like a financial incentive incentive, like $100 off for helping me beat Milena. Whatever the big bosses are.
Starting point is 01:09:31 If you play Chivalry, I'm down. Elden Ring, I wish you luck. Thank you. It's one of those things that just... I almost think that people are lying. I think... Cigars, everyone's fizzing? I think that people are lying. Like, I think... Cigars, everyone's fizzing? I think that, yes.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I think that an elite group of people play it and are challenged by it and have a great time, and then all their fans and the culture behind it are all pretending. Like, I gotta see these people's, like, Steam accounts to believe
Starting point is 01:10:01 that these people actually beat this game that readily. It's possible that I'm just absolute trash, it just seems it seems like such an uphill battle like the idea of spending 12 hours on a boss to me i guess is just so tedious you know like that idea that everybody's lying there are like seven beatles songs i like people who like their entire library i'm, are you fucking kidding me? No way you like this song. There's a lot of trash in here, dude. Yeah, yellow
Starting point is 01:10:32 submarine rocks, but yeah, they could be fibbing. Just trying to LARP as the best gamers because that's a cool thing to be a good gamer. Yeah. Are you guys ready to wrap? Yes. I'm sorry. I was all excited early. I wasn't mad at you. I wasn't. Oh, no. I was just
Starting point is 01:10:49 baiting you. I won't. See, that's how you... Back down, liberal! We win again! We win again! First time in a while, but... What did you win?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Alright. PKN 518.

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