Painkiller Already - PKN 533

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 33 even now there we are. PKN four 33 took a bit to finish show to start. What are your first thing I noticed your hair is looking like Sunday best version. I just got out of the shower. It was like five 45 and I want to look my best Sam. And I'm like, fuck, I haven't worked in like seconds from now. I imagined you being like, I got a meeting with uncle Sam today. I want to look my best.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I got to go look good in the voting booth. I saw someone post a funny post online where they're like, well, I went in the voting booth and then I came out with my cup of urine and everyone was mad. And I was like, that's very funny. Did you vote Taylor? Yeah. Yesterday. Very glad I did it yesterday. Cause it was, I thought I was being like smart because we've had like two straight days of torrential rain and flooding and it really started kicking
Starting point is 00:00:50 off yesterday, late morning, early afternoon. And I was like, I know a lot of the line is outdoors. If I go now, rain time, I'm going to get in, you know, quick. That was not the case. I stood in the rain for 50 minutes. And you know how there's that meme where it's like, I don't wanna use an umbrella, that's gay. I felt like the gay one.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Everyone had umbrellas but me. Oh yeah. Dude, it is the fucking gayest thing to be worried that people think you're gay over regular stuff. That Gavin McGinnis guy, I think he said umbrellas were gay. Dude, you're fucking faggot for thinking that umbrellas are gay. Jesse Walters, I think that's his name, Jesse Waters.
Starting point is 00:01:31 He said drinking from a straw is gay. Dude, if you're so insecure that you can't drink from a straw or eating ice cream, that's Tucker Carlson said that was gay. Dude, you people worry about the most mundane shit. You're too gay. I honestly, all about nuance. Taylor, you got to understand the guy was in the straw. It's the pussies who worry about looking like a pussy. And you know, the actual guys who are self confidence, don't
Starting point is 00:02:00 worry about drinking. I never heard the straw thing. It was the baby teeth and so I need my straw for my ice cold soda. I hate glugging it. I need my straw and I need it to be plastic. I need it to be you know petroleum based. But anyway I went I stood for 50 minutes in the rain and then I got in there and I they gave you the ballot and everything. I live in one of the same states so I gave my ID, proved I was a citizen, they gave my paper. And then I was so wet. Like I was sitting on like the corner of this little white table with those like, you know, those anti cheat sheet things that they had in school, a bunch of those were up. And I thought that was so interesting. It's like, nobody's gonna cheat. But then I was like, oh, it's probably for privacy. Maybe
Starting point is 00:02:41 some people don't want don't care. But I mean, I wasn't looking at anybody else's ballot. And so I started doing it. I finished the whole thing. I go turned it in and it like sticks in the machine. Like it got halfway in and like two alerts came up. It's like warning discrepancy with amendment three and proposition who gives a shit. And I was in the, there's this little lady who was the, I guess,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the organizer of this little station. And I was like, OK, so what does this mean? And she's like, oh, it probably means like part of your ballot got wet. Yeah, it's coming back out now. I can see because I was I was literally sopping wet like I'd gone camping. And so a couple of different options got wet. You got your bowels wet. And I was like, OK, so it says at the bottom, just proceed.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Is this the kind of proceed that means like like a dollar not going in the vending machine where all the data is still going to be fine? Or is it like I need to do a new piece of paper? And she was like, well, no, it'll it'll count the votes. And I'm like, oh, OK. She's like, well, it just won't count these ones. And I'm like, well, can I just get another piece of paper then? Please. I'll pull my roll my sleeves up.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And so I went and I got another piece of paper. Had to fill it out a second time, like holding my arm way over the side so I didn't drip. And then I was able to vote like an American. Turn down the sticker. I'm not a braggart. I'm a humble man. I rock this sticker. I so rock this sticker. I took a shower and transferred the sticker to my neck. You were just making fun of people for straws. That's pretty fucking gay. But I'm fine. I should have gotten the sticker from somewhere. That's confidence. I just realized I wish I had like eight stickers.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I was just like, I'm like, I don't know counties just all like like it's a bumper. Different designs. Yeah, they're all different. Like one of them is that wolf or whatever that bear, that werewolf, or whatever that kid made. And you know what's a big problem? It's apparently all of these polling places they give you. They give you the worst pens on earth.
Starting point is 00:04:47 These pens are designed to work for exactly the amount of time it takes to fill out one ballot. They are trash. The one I picked up fell apart as I picked it up. I had to pick a different one. You gotta move to a first world state. I walked in, do you know how long the line was?
Starting point is 00:05:03 There was no line. They had enough people to handle everyone who came as they came. I immediately give them my ID. They give me my little ballot. I go to the next station. I fill my stuff out. It was no problem at all. Are you in a large county? It's just because it's really busy here. Yeah, we're in a pretty large county as well. Yeah, this is Raleigh. I live in this city of Raleigh. And the rules are beat the pants.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I like it. And see, yeah, it's because everyone's here so passionate. Everybody's cracking a movie like when you when you vote in Missouri, it's like audible. Everyone around you is like. Hope you can pull it out this time, but literally that's what vote really in Missouri is. Yeah, like like pretty much everyone in my area seemed to be going that way there was this one business sounding lady in front of me who talked great what do you mean that way um hope we can pull it out they're going that way which way i assume they're all republic hoping that he can pull it out
Starting point is 00:05:59 meeting trump like they're like they're like doing their little wish casting like i hope you know this time it might be the ticket uh Yeah, it seemed that way. This woman next to me, this mother of four or whatever, she was a bit older than me and that was a little depressing. I'm like, man, these people have their fucking lives together. They have kids. I don't have any fucking kids. And then she's talking to me the whole time about how much she wants to vote for Trump.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And I'm like, that's great. We're not going to be friends or anything. So maybe we just stand in the rain. Do you see how wet I am? I had the guy behind me. I had a six foot seven tall guy and a chief's hat and the biggest umbrella you've ever seen. Three people behind me and I have my giant Coke bottle glasses soaked in water and he's like, he's like, hello to this guy, you know, should have brought an umbrella.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I'm like, you got me. Yes. Meanwhile, I'm going to vote for fucking Harris, you bitch. It really wasn't that big a deal. My friends who went today were you didn't let him know that umbrellas are for days. So wait a minute. I was the the lines longer today. Yeah, it's apparently very, very long today. That sucks. Like it should be easy to vote
Starting point is 00:07:07 It should be pretty convenient. That's why I don't like voting on one day. They should there should be weeks Really fine, it's just like the Give a fuck enough to not mail it in like go in person participate and I think it should be convenient easy, I think it'll voter participation rates should be high and secure. I'm not saying it should be insecure, unsecured. It shouldn't be on. I don't know. They need to be secure everywhere. That's funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Like they just need to do the ID thing everywhere. Like, yeah, I don't understand why the ID thing is such an issue. Like I've heard it's like racist. Do I, all my black friends have IDs? I don't understand why the ID thing is such an issue. Like I've heard it's like racist. Do I all my black friends have IDs? I don't know. Everybody knows. Yeah. Like who doesn't have IDs?
Starting point is 00:07:52 That's wild to me. But apparently IDs hurt Democrats for some reason. I don't know why. Yeah. Because voting participation hurts Republicans. So they're always trying to make it more restrictive, not vote on weekends, only vote on one day, reduce mail-in ballots. Make it a national holiday.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah. Everybody gets a day off, that's popular. I still, I do like the idea of a day off, especially it's one day every two years. Yeah, for sure. And I interject here, the day off won't work. Why? We're all planning vacations on that day.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You give us a day off, especially you make it a three-day weekend. No, dude, it's a Tuesday. You can't plan a whole, it's a Tuesday off. Oh, then maybe I take Monday off. You're already giving me voter day off. I can make a four day weekend, Taylor? Dude, if that's the biggest problem
Starting point is 00:08:35 that people are getting nice little weekend vacays out of it, I'm willing to abide that. I don't know. It'll be the people with jobs taking the four day, it'll be the hardest of workers who take the four day weekends They're like I can't take it anymore. I'm not that said before I'm in favor of as many federal holidays as they'll fire out of their guns Just every day should be some kind of a federal. No, no, no, you need that's why I'm Jewish. It needs to be special
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, dude, the Jews figured it out. They're like I think they'll fall for this one. It should be a good Celebrating sacred holiday. And it's actually, it's actually all of June. Um, this is eight days for some reason. Yeah. It did it right. They have all the, they should be convenient, easy, uh,
Starting point is 00:09:17 participation rates should be higher. Uh, and I don't know. See, I used to think that it should be mandatory because I thought like, I don't care. I just thought that it should be like paying your taxes is mandatory. And if you don't, they come get you eventually. Like, why not make paying your or voting the same thing? It's like, did you vote? Dude, you better.
Starting point is 00:09:38 You know, you're going to send you a ticket in the mail. Like, you don't want the kind of people voting who have who it has to be compulsory to make them to vote. Like what if you got a $3 discount on your taxes for voting? Three dollars? Give me two better than that. Two more than that. Really, how much should I pay you to vote?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Nothing. How much should I pay? It could be, you know- It might, yeah, you're paying them with your own money. It needs to be better than three, but it needs to be worse than three simultaneously. No, you shouldn't like, the goal of voting and democracy
Starting point is 00:10:07 shouldn't be to have the most total amount of votes. You can achieve that just by like, do it like harvesting homeless people's votes. It's like, it should be good people voting. Like people who care enough and give a fuck enough to go out and do it. Like it's- It shows to be easy.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I hate that you stood 50 minutes in the rain to vote. That is a legit obstacle to democracy. I voted for just now it's Missouri, but so you guys are going red either way. That was my point with that. But, uh, you know, I see, for example, the seven hour lines in the Georgia Atlanta area. And it's like, this seems designed to suppress turnout. It is, right? And then you get people like me, that's wealthy people, fuck, we just waltz right in. They got a DJ out there playing music.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I imagine you literally waltzed with Jackie. Yeah, they hired a DJ. So in theory, if there was a line, it'd be more pleasant, but there was none. And I just walk right in. I'm sorry. I went to around lunchtime and I just walk in. I vote.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I leave. Took no time at all. Three of us voted Jackie, Colin and I. Nice. And that was that. Maybe I just had bad luck. But that doesn't seem to be the thing because a lot of people here are saying there's long lines everywhere. It could just be that people are turning out in super high
Starting point is 00:11:28 numbers for Trump because we're a really red state and nobody hears Stokeman for four years. So I don't be a combination. So it's like I said the other day, I know it sounded foolish, but I was like, you know, it's gonna be one or two outcomes. Yeah, but whoa, the bravery he put on. But I guess what I was trying to say was that if Trump wins, it's because man, they turned out for him. It's because there were it's because he won. He won white women again somehow. But if Harris won, he's won white women every time, just not all women.
Starting point is 00:12:02 That's what I just said. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. I'm saying this time he just not all women. That's what I just said. Oh, is that right? Yeah. I'm saying this time he might not. I'm wondering how big of an issue the abortion thing is. And it's just like, I don't know if I believe any of the polling I ever see, but I just remember seeing so many women saw the Roe v. Wade thing is like a big reason to go vote.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Like they were making fun of it. That was the meme was like, look, this is all they care about. There's like 80% of them saw it as the most important. A lot of good arguments in there. Well, you know, they've got the right to vote. So, I was saying if Harris is going to win, it means that women really turned out, which then sounds to me like a Harris landslide. Like, sounds like a Harris, like they're going to win some states they shouldn't have, or we didn't think they would maybe.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I wonder how North Carolina and Virginia, how those states are going to go. Virginia, for sure. Virginia's usually been blue for a while. My little news ecosystem has turned around. So it's an insulting term, but the Democrats have been bedwetting this entire time. So they led for most of the race until most very recently. And even though
Starting point is 00:13:11 they're like, I'll take 538 is was giving Harris 54 times out of 100. The Democrats are scared and the Republicans are confident with the 46. They're just a different vibe. You know, Trump's telling all we're way ahead in the polls. Don't believe all the polls that don't have me ahead. Only believe the polls that have me ahead. That was the Trump thing. The Democrats are like, oh my God, this is way too close. I'm not comfortable.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Until the last week, the Democrats have been to snort and all that hopium, coming out with great news. The polls have swung in her direction, barely. It's been tied the whole way. Coming out with great news, the polls have swung in her direction. Barely. It's been tied the whole way. But they're filling me with this probably false confidence. Like Harris has this. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:13:54 What'd you say? Coin flip. It's coin flip, man. And we can flip the coin right now and it would be just as accurate as the most intelligent, well-informed expert. Nate Silver's final model. Literally the most expensive coin flip model of all time. The absolute gall to be like, I'm the most professional pollster. I aggregate all of these and I weight them as I see fit within my proprietary
Starting point is 00:14:16 aggregation system. And then I saw for weeks, people are like, everybody's all up on Nate Silver, just wait. The day of the election, he's gonna say it's Harris 50.1% and Trump, you know, 49.9. And it was like, it was flipped the other way, but it was like within 0.8%. And it's like, what is even the point of following someone who's never really gonna be- 538 has the same thing, but inverse. They have Harris winning 50 times out of 100
Starting point is 00:14:44 and Trump winning 49 times out of 100. And that's one of the things. So I watch both liberal and conservative news, too much of it. And the liberal news is saying that the pollsters have been scared to take a stance, that they've been, they call it hurting. They all just go together and come up with the same results.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You know, the people say what they say. And then when they massage the data, they say toss up. They've been doing it the whole time. And they think that it's not the toss up the pollsters said it was. The pollsters just lack courage. I don't know. No, I could see that like their entire identity rests on them being like having some predictive value in their, you know, in their equations and whatnot. If not, what
Starting point is 00:15:27 are they doing here? And so, guessing it close to 50-50, it could be, it just happened that way. But it also could be like, these are pollsters whose primary goal more than getting it correct is ensuring that they're still relevant next time this comes around. It's their job. And so, when you set it that close, 49 to 51 or whatever, you can, after the fact, be like, oh, you know, my model was actually like 98% there. It's just like under-weighted this group. And when I accurately weight this group
Starting point is 00:16:00 with hindsight being 20-20, suddenly my model makes more sense. And it's like, well then, of what use was your model? I follow the most brilliant pollster on YouTube. He said, look, it's going to be one of two outcomes. I mean, if I had to guess, if I had to guess, I would definitely get this. The Stanley Cup is going to be one of 32 things this year. The Stanley Cup is going to be one of 32 things this year. It feels very Harris right now, like at this moment. I haven't really touched the waters. I really messed my sleep schedule up like last night, so I slept through the afternoon today. It was one of those times where my phone was dead too,
Starting point is 00:16:39 so I couldn't check what time it was when I woke up. I got all the way downstairs to my stove before I realized I'd slept till two or three in the afternoon. What made you say that it's looking really harrassing? Because it is to me, but I always worry that my news feed is not. Well, I think timing. I know that timing is the most important thing, at least in our elections. Like if this election had taken place a few weeks back, I think it would have been such a slam dunk for Trump. And I think there's been times where it would have been a slam dunk for Harris.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Even I think there were times where it would have been a slam dunk for Biden. Um, if they'd been, if we'd had the election on X day or Y day, like a week after Trump got shot, like if we, if we'd had the election the week after Trump got shot, I think it would have been nuts. I think he would have really. That was his highest moment. He wasn't shot, but that was his highest moment. He didn't get shot though.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He didn't. I'm not gonna argue that one. The videos come out since. The bullet didn't hit his ear. What hit his ear was the bodyguard's gun as he hugged him and brought him down. That's the thing now. Yeah. That's just baffling.
Starting point is 00:17:53 That's why there's no injury. It was just hit by the gun inside the holster. Joe Rogan said, show me your ear. And he's like, yeah, there's a little mark on there. There's a little scar. Yeah. But he's saying the mark came from the bodyguard's pistol. Yeah, I saw it. You can see it. I could I watch a YouTube video where they like replayed it and they're like, right here, this is the impact where his ear got hit by the bodyguard
Starting point is 00:18:16 as he like wrestled him down. Yeah, I don't care anymore and I don't care to argue it. But the elections happening tonight, I like saying you're happy. I know you did. That's just so dantic. Two people have tried to kill him and you're like, well, they actually did. Three is three. Is it three now? Is it three? Yeah. They stopped. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:35 The ones where they don't shoot. Oh, like Trump tweeted out Obama's address and Lee Harvey Oswald's attempt that really never got started. That's what I'm going to guess that Obama has the actual Secret Service, not the fucking Mr. Magoo Squad bumbling about tripping and failing. And I don't know, they're both Pennsylvania's are like, hey, there's a guy on the roof with a gun.
Starting point is 00:18:59 He's been sighting out and they're like, Susan, that's part of the fucking plan here. Don't you get it? We're supposed to be supposed to die on TV. That's why they're like, citizen, that's part of the fucking plan here. Don't you get it? We're supposed to. He's supposed to die on TV. That's why they never televise his fucking dude. I think if JD Vance was leading the well, maybe he wasn't announced yet. He wasn't. Oh, okay. You're right. That's the funny part of the story. Hypothetically, do you think JD Vance would be better at the top of the ticket?
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think he was better in his Rogan interview. I think he was better in the debate. I think he's better in general, but Trump just doesn't appeal to me and it appeals to a lot of people. Yeah. Next election, like Vance is going to benefit by siphoning off that Trump popularity if he does get elected for four years, but I don't think Vance does better without Trump. I think he disappears if he doesn't win this If he doesn't think of a losing VP candidate that went on to do well later
Starting point is 00:19:55 Oh, i'm sure there have been we just can't think of them though like like Like biden was a failed politician for decades before he started winning, right? The longest-serving senator ever youngest senator And old like i'm talking about the presidency though. Like how many times, he ran for presidency several times. I've seen videos of him withdrawing from the presidential race where he has hair. Like, he's a young man. He's like, you know what, it didn't work out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, no, he did fail at running for president many times. And that I think is pretty common. People who don't win on their first try, Trump didn't win on his first try. Of course not. But Obama gave so much of that popularity to Biden. Like Biden has gotten by since 2008 as literally no one has been like, Biden, that's my dude. What a great guy.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It's literally like, oh, the Obama guy. Okay. Yeah. We'll do the Obama guy. Like that. By Obama guy like that. By the Obama is so that's a winning VP, though, not a losing one. Like I'm looking for the Sarah Palin who turned around and then one at the time. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I mean, Vance is really popular in Ohio, isn't he? I assume I doubt it. He's new. He's like a new. He hasn't even been there that long, like four or eight years. Usually that's when they're more popular before they really expose fucking politicians. I guess my main thought was, are there any popular senators? Like, I don't know who my fucking senators are.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Like Raphael Warnock, maybe I think there was that they won during that big blue wave like four years ago or something like that that took Georgia back. But like, nobody knows what they do, unless you'd have to be so plugged into politics to care about your state senator. Yeah, I have no idea what my state senators up to. Do you even know if it's a man or a woman or if they're conservative? Wait, like the federal senator? Or just my state? Like the all the state? I do actually mean your representative, like your two senators of Missouri.
Starting point is 00:21:41 The federal ones, yeah. Oh yeah, it's Ann Wagner and Josh Hawley. I have no idea. I think it's Raffael Warnock and maybe Stacey. Raffael Warnock. That's a very war hammery name. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. North Carolina has two Republican senators and a Democratic governor.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah. I don't know who our governor is John Ossoff and Raphael Warnock both Democrats here. Oh, yeah, that's right. They both won in 20 maybe I think in Why can't I say 2020 they won I think right? Yeah. Yeah, I was super happy At the time it seemed like they were going to. That was enough to legalize marijuana and they might do it. But then four years more have passed. That's why I don't care who wins.
Starting point is 00:22:32 That's a big part of why I don't care who wins tonight is like I think Harris might actually legalize marijuana federally. She said she would. That'd be sick. And I just don't think she can fuck things up too badly. Biden said that. But Biden's a silly old man. This lady's 50 or something. She might mean it. And she's a little black. Just a little. Taylor, that means something. Okay. All right. I'm just saying. That doesn't mean she'll legalize. It means she deals. Yeah. I think she's very Indian. She's going to own a store.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Welcome to Kamala's marijuana dispensary. We get you change your voice every two seconds to try and be authentic. That is a little happy. That would be, I think that might, if you could show me a video of Kamala Harris getting in front of like a bunch of Indian women and she was like, I am so really excited to be on next place like and changed it the same way she does for black people. She might have my book. I could get on board. It would be hysterical. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I guess I don't care. I am worried about Trump pulling out of my Ukraine war, which I do think is like, like all of my thing you dislike about him. Yeah. That's crazy, dude. Yeah. That's one of the big things. Um, you know, also like, look, it's kind of true that he sort of tried to topple our government and all. Um, it seemed like, now, now what I don't think about January 6th is that he was the evil mastermind. What I think is he's just a goober. And he was like, oh, things seem to be falling into place. I think I'll just not say anything
Starting point is 00:24:10 and see how this turns out. And it's like, whoa, one of the ways it turns out is like, maybe they kill some senators and and you're the president. He told people to go to peace. Do we have to re litigate this again? We don't. But but but you know, you've fallen for the Trump two step though, right? He told people to top line. You've fallen for the Trump two step though, right? No, no, he told people to go peaceful. You've fallen for the media narrative that everything he does is fucking. I heard every word. I, I'm up to date.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm well informed and he did say peacefully in, what did he say? Peacefully and patriotically, but, um, he said a lot more than that. And he said a lot more than that leading up to it and his people organized it and he didn't bring in he watched the whole thing unfold while he let the people get hurt. I don't think he's an actor. These people that went didn't happen. Yeah, you think that's it. You're trying to paint it as a sincere insurrection to topple the US government. And the most armed populace on planet Earth showed up with flags instead of guns. No, I'm trying to say that they took over the building so that legislation was delayed and they wanted it to not happen.
Starting point is 00:25:18 The only person that many people wanted to shut something down longer than that they could have. The only person who was shot was a Trump supporter, an unarmed veteran, a police officer was mutilated. No, he was not. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. Pause there. Did you know a police officer lost his eye? There was barbarism.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Did you know a police officer lost his eye? How did he lose it? How did he lose it? I think they stabbed him with a flagpole, but that part I'm less sure about. He lost. Let me look it up. This always happened. You guys changed, but that part I'm less sure about. He lost. Let me look it up. This always happened.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You guys changed the topic before I got to it. I don't want to change the topic. I want to talk about the eyeball. What's his name? We're eyeball central now. I'm interested. But I'm curious. In your view, if a police officer in a riot did lose his eyeball, does that make this
Starting point is 00:25:59 a legitimate attempt to overthrow the United States government? I'm looking it up. Because that's insane. And that's the problem. Everyone who looks? I'm looking it up. Because that's insane. Like, and that's a problem. Like everyone who looks at that event sees it differently because like the idea that it was a bunch of marauders with guns going into trying to overthrow the U S government is laughable. But the, the idea that the a hundred percent of them were doing it peacefully
Starting point is 00:26:19 that a lot of right-wingers will try and say is not true. There were a lot of people breaking windows and like stealing lecterns and shit. Or I guess there was one guy stealing a lectern. But I don't think he got away with it. I know he probably wouldn't like it. There's still people in jail over January 6th. There's someone, there's people getting sentenced as we speak.
Starting point is 00:26:35 The guy who does a voice for Bob's Burgers just got sentenced. Yeah, yeah, high priority stuff. I don't watch that cartoon. No, like cartoon fuckers. I don't think it's either of those realities. I think that, so for one thing, there definitely wasn't some sort of planned armed militia to go take down the government that day.
Starting point is 00:26:51 That's just not true. But on the other hand, what I do think happened is everybody just kept bumbling their way into sort of a foe insurrection. Like. There was no Mel Gibson type character on the ground with a flag waving it, follow me. There was no coordination. A lot of people. It was just a bunch of assholes out there. Now, I am open to the idea that there was smaller groups of people who had a plan, whether those people were from the federal government,
Starting point is 00:27:24 like the FBI out there trying to get people in trouble and set people up. Or it was like something like the proud boys on the other side who was like through this door, through this door. Yeah. I think a little bit of both might've been happening, but, but like what happened was definitely not chill. And there was definitely a time where Donald Trump could have done something. And we got into a big argument about this on the show. And the something I'm talking about is like tweet. I wish he'd been blowing up Twitter.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I wish he'd been calling for a press conference right now. I bet there's a number you call when you want to talk to the media, right? When you want to assemble a press conference. And he's got that number. I wish he'd been like quick, we this doesn't look good. This is bad. And even if it wouldn't have timed out well, so that because it's not like they're in there watching the simulcast, they're not watching TV, they're poking
Starting point is 00:28:15 cops with flagpoles or whatever. Which I believe that I mean, if you stay like, like, even in the scenario you've laid out, and in all the video evidence, like 99% of the people are not breaking windows and causing problems. And so like what he's supposed to tell everyone to leave, he did tell people to go peacefully. So the video I've seen from January 6th or whatever is on the front line, the crush between the cops and like the guys, the protesters on the front line. And those guys aren't meandering. Those guys are like, they're fighting.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And like, they're not fighting in that leave me alone. There's absolutely fighting there for sure. There are, there were some bad apples there. It looks like the flagpole thing might be right. I keep seeing the officer lost his eye, article after article confirming he lost his eye, but it's always lumped in with like, officer lost his eye,
Starting point is 00:29:10 another one was stabbed with a metal fence stake, another one has broken ribs, 140 officers were injured, but no one says like he lost his eye because he was poked with this or that. That guy. You gotta say this about Trump supporters. This is a protestor. This isn't the eye thing where...
Starting point is 00:29:32 No, this is Jan 6. No, no, no. I was looking for... He didn't pull... We're looking for a cop who got his eye knocked out, not a protestor guy. Oh, go back. That wasn't a cop? No, that guy's in a red hoodie.
Starting point is 00:29:44 No, the red hoodie is the assaulter. We're looking at the guy on the ground. Oh, on back. That wasn't a cop. No, the guy's in a red hoodie. No, the red hoodie is the assaulter. We're looking at the guy on the ground. On the right. I was I was looking at where the pole thing was pushing up in his cheekbone there. Yeah, I'm not sure who the bad guy is in this photo. The man that man's that police officer seems to be poking this poor man who's do trip in the face with a metal pole. It's just he's just stumbling randomly.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah, there's a lot of violent people that we shouldn't welcome back to do that kind of thing. Like that police officer. Yes. Like the police officer that executed actually that weapon. Yeah. Back the rioters. That's where we are in this. Back the rioters. First of all, they're freedom fighters.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Right, right. Yeah, they're just innocent people. Wrong place, wrong time. Had no idea that this thing was going to unfold and do you really think that like that? And there were two. That's the thing. They always do this. They're like, Hey, do you think anyone there was innocent? Yes, of course there were.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Did you notice them following the velvet ropes? Yeah, of course. Some people did. I also saw him smashing in the bulletproof windows with stolen writing. I also saw their cop who lost his eye, 140 cops with injuries, people stabbed with metal posts and shit. Robert Leonard Dude, they probably just didn't light off the start from this thing. They let off with this thing. In the Trump articles of impeachment, they said in those, it's in the Library of Congress, they said
Starting point is 00:31:04 that Officer Sicknick was killed during the insurrection attempt. That didn't happen. Died the next day, right? Yeah, died of a stroke the next day. So that's the thing, they're always like, well, here's some footage of them not killing anyone. Here's some footage of them obeying,
Starting point is 00:31:19 guy in my high school killed his sister. Do you know how often he didn't kill his sister? Most of his life was spent not killing his sister. Hold on, well, it's important to interject. If you just do this like- You said there's footage of them not killing someone. Is there any footage of them killing someone? Because that implies that-
Starting point is 00:31:33 If you just say, hey, there's some footage of them obeying velvet ropes, therefore it wasn't violent. Nope, it was. It was a riot. It was absolutely a riot. And there were lots of rioters. What I disagree with is, I think that it's fanciful and ridiculous to look at that footage. And in Dick's words,
Starting point is 00:31:51 all those fucking Facebook grandmas, and a lot of fucking sunglass wearing lunatics, like that's not a sincere attempt to overthrow the US government. That's a riot. It's a riot. Yeah, a riot that Trump loved. He saw happening. They have the forensic footage. They have him watching Fox News clips on Twitter because they have the phone that he had that day. And we know what he was informed. We know that he saw the footage of the rioters taking over the Capitol and we know that he knew they were being violent. And we know that he didn't do fuck all about it because he liked it. Yeah, that's who Trump is. And that's my biggest issue with Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:27 It's really not the policy so much, although some of them are stupid. My biggest issue is Trump isn't a good man. And that badness in his core has ramifications on the way that he would run the country. Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. If that's like your guiding principles, like you don't think this guy's a good dude, like understandable. I guess I come at it more from like an actual policy perspective
Starting point is 00:32:53 where like one side, at least in this election, 24, turning it back to this, like one side openly wants more censorship. They talk about it as a good thing, as a goal. They want to shut down misinformation, which is whatever the- I'm glad you brought up censorship, because Donald Trump wants to pull the broadcasting license
Starting point is 00:33:10 of ABC, NBC, and CBS, and CNN, because they air news that's unfavorable to him. Like, if you talk about censorship, it gets a hell of a lot worse than being concerned about some Facebook posts, like the Democrats. No, it's actually, no, I- It's pulling the broadcasting license of CBS.
Starting point is 00:33:27 That's what Trump is on the podium and says he's going to do. He won't do that. But now we're hoping that he doesn't do what he tells us he'll do. We're literally like, you know what? I'm gonna sane wash everything he says, and I'm gonna assume he means what I wish he meant
Starting point is 00:33:42 and not what he told us he meant. I think it's a way for him to be like, Hey, stop repeating obvious nonsense. Like the good Obama just repeated the good people on both sides. Fucking Nazi lie at a rally two days ago. Like and that is that gets wishing doesn't mean what he says he means. And that's a rough spot to be in when you're president. If he's going to be censoring people, I don't like that. But the real impact of censorship that's meaningful is censorship that impacts individuals.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Really? So you think pulling broadcast license for people that are critical of Trump? He can't do that. He can't unilaterally do that. But it's who he is. If he can't do that, then he is what he's running on. Unilaterally do that. But it's who he is. Like if he can't do that, then he'll do the best that he can otherwise. He said he was gonna ban Muslims, right? But when he found out he couldn't ban by religion, he ended up trying to implement
Starting point is 00:34:37 as close as he could by country. So if he finds out that he can't pull CBS's broadcasting license, then what's he gonna do like it? Because that's what happened the first time he ran. He you're right. He did. He was already president for four years and he didn't do any of these things. But we did see throughout the past few years with Harris and Biden in control that censorship did increase. Right wingers got even more deplatformed than usual. The only reason that you're even able to be more right-wing than Ben Shapiro on the entire internet at this point
Starting point is 00:35:10 is because Elon bought Twitter. That's it. There's no other way to do it. And so free speech is under attack. And I care much more about the ability of individuals to engage in free speech, independent journalists, people on the ground, American citizens. us, then I do people like us, people like our media, our media apparatus, our media apparatus is evil. They knowingly lie. They don't, they don't make mistakes that always happen to go serendipitously in the same direction. They lie.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And so, yeah, I would like it if there was a higher accountability, at least on broadcast journalism of like, hey, if you lie openly and it's proven you knowingly lied, like, yeah, maybe you don't have the back. Like Fox News did? Sure, yeah, I'm not drawing lines. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I know you're not. And you don't, like to your credit. Like when I hear you saying this, you probably mostly have like the anti-Trump stuff in your heart, but you're fully aware like, hey, it's bad on both sides. Um, but it's not the same on both sides, but it's mostly data where they like knowingly pimped these lies so that they wouldn't lose viewers and ended up
Starting point is 00:36:16 paying almost a billion dollars for it. Yeah. I mean, that's something that stands outside as an outlier about all sorts of things. And so like this idea that it's really not the media lying as much as like it's the censorship I'm concerned with. And the only platforms that people are allowed to discuss politics nowadays outside of like a fucking coffee shop is Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, take all the big ones everywhere, right?
Starting point is 00:36:41 It's everywhere. And all of these and YouTube's red. It one of them. I mean everywhere, right? That's everywhere. There's a handful of these. And Reddit, I mean Reddit doesn't speak at all. Facebook has a hard right-wing slant. Zuckerberg. That's because of the demographics of Facebook. And even they get banned. And Zuckerberg did not donate 400 million to the Democrats. I looked into that because it was new information to me.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I'm like, what is this that it was wrong? What he did is he donated 400 million dollars to people that like, I guess there was the time there was this confusion about whether mail in votes would get sent to where they were going. Go fact check it. Look at it. I look up AP Reuters, the nonbiased ones, and he made sure that the ballots got there. And then they looked into it and they said,
Starting point is 00:37:26 well, did he like make sure that democratic ballots got there more so than other ones? And no, there was hearings about it. Yeah, I saw, I don't like election interference either. I see that guy who was burning the ballots and then Zach was pointing out, there's been quite a few bomb threats today and swing states.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I don't like that. You know, I'm not sure. I don't know what's right. I have these two like modes that I go into are two like kinds of opinions. I guess there's like Kyle's opinion and Kyle's opinion is like selfish world. Just serving Kyle, right? Like, like what would be best for Kyle? But then and there's opinions I have that are like that. But then sometimes there's opinions. It's like, what is right?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Like if I, if I were like, if this were a big ant farm and I were the guy in charge and they're like, Oh, what do you think boss? Like, which, which switch would I flip? You know, and that, that, that guy's often, um, has different opinions than Kyle. You know what I mean? I aspire to be that second guy. I don't know if I hate it. By the way, the 400 million was to two non two distinct nonprofits that it was getting out the vote in in Democrat areas.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Now check into that because they that they were he was falsely accused and they looked into it and found the Center for Tech and Civic Life and the Center for Election Innovation and Research, which funnels the money to local officials to assure that everyone can vote and every vote is counted. And then standby. It's a nonpartisan organization that helps cities and states ensure that residents could vote regardless of their party preference. It's in full compliance in the law. He didn't donate to Biden.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I'm looking for the part. Election officials have said there's no indication of favoritism towards how the money was distributed. I mean, I would disagree. He openly supported Biden in 2012. I'm looking at the AP News fact check and I looked at the Roy. I'm looking at the AP news fact check as well. And. Oh, well then you're looking at the same thing. He openly said that he supported Biden in 2020 and you think that he gave $400
Starting point is 00:39:34 million in a way that didn't further his political goals. Um, conservatives have criticized the donations due to suspicion that the money aided Democrats. Of course it did. He stated he wanted that to happen. But then they looked into it and it wasn't true. There's a by-part of the, I'll keep reading. The board for the Center of Tech and Civil Life includes Pam Anderson, a Republican, a former elected clerk of Denver. Republican officials have vouched for the program's
Starting point is 00:40:03 impartiality, including Brian Mead, a Republican election director in Ohio. Like, it just goes on and on. You can't find anything that says these were biased donations. Yeah. Well, I mean, we can also- And you can find tons of stuff that says it is not. We can- do you really think that he put $400 million into the political- But now we're into the trust me bro-
Starting point is 00:40:24 No, no, no, no, no. It's like, no, no, we can, we can actually look at what actually happened. He depressed stories that harm Democrats on the largest networking platform at the time on earth. He did that. They looked into it now. And he admits to it now. And he says that it was pro conservative. And the reason it was was that conservatives cried and whined so loudly that the backlash was much greater when you suppress conservative stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And I can Google that too. It just always takes three minutes and we move on to something else. Like the idea that one of the wealthiest billionaires on planet earth put half a billion dollars after stating publicly that he wanted a certain political outcome. And that that was just a just
Starting point is 00:41:06 Just money he put into the process for this year on trust me, bro fact this isn't trust me I've named three Republican election officials who look Partial it's like I don't care. I still think no No It's about being able to look at patterns and infer using your mind, not having to look at some retard who says something. He donated $400 million to causes that largely got out the vote in democratic areas. This is following him suppressing right wing news. The largely democratic part,
Starting point is 00:41:38 they couldn't find any impartiality in his donations and yours is like, Hey, use your mind. And I was, you go to the first time you have to respect your own opinion. I'm still going. You have to respect your own opinions and use your own logic. But like without any evidence, you just say, nah,
Starting point is 00:41:55 the evidence that you gave me three election, three Republicans saying that it was good. I think it's wrong. I guess it just comes out like, can you just not look at a behavioral pattern and infer without having to defer your like almost permission to believe to an election official or to a politician? Like, can you not just look at A then B then C?
Starting point is 00:42:16 He states he wants this party to win. He donates $400 million to an important swing state that results in that state going blue for the first time and forever. He depresses information that's bad for his favorite candidate on his platform, which he's now admitted and he has admitted to regretting ever since he's now a fucking MMA guy or whatever. You can just look at what someone does, see the consequences of that, and then use your mind, your rationality to go, who stood to gain from this?
Starting point is 00:42:42 Who stood to lose? Who stands to lose from this. And you can infer what he was trying to do. He was trying to get to make sure Trump wasn't elected again. See, I do that sort of thing all the time, but I'm wrong all the time when I do it too. So I try to look in a little deeper and see what's up and look for some actual facts, look for some actual people who dug into this. Um, because like the other day I heard that this few weeks ago, Asheville had fewer first responders
Starting point is 00:43:09 because when the Democrats didn't like police, they lost their police force. And I heard that and thought, this is a silly head talking. So I looked into it. Really, Asheville has fewer cops now because of the Floyd riots. They do. They do have fewer police now.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And I just thought like that that was probably bullshit. No one actually, they didn't get defunded. They just didn't rehire the cops that quit or something. I don't know, but there are fewer cops than there were before. Did their budget change? I wonder. And if so, I was wrong. I think it didn't change but they had a heart and they weren't able to backfill the spots You'd think yeah
Starting point is 00:43:53 I would be curious as to how the the budget like surplus is Reallocated to or who are who above them? like is it one of those Michael Scott situations where if you get a surplus you get a percentage of it if you're right above them and It's to their higher ups to just shrink them down. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about the defund the police and thing any thing anyway. On one hand, when I see those police forces that have I don't know what they're called M rams or something giant armored
Starting point is 00:44:19 armored personnel carriers. And it's like a small country. I've seen them before like in small country sheriff departments that have armored personnel carriers and it's like a small country. I've seen them before like in small country sheriff departments They'll have armored personnel carriers and it's like dude. I paid for that shit. What no, I don't think it's cool. I Look shouldn't have They didn't lose funding. They are currently budgeted for 238 cops and they have a hundred and forty six thirty nine% vacancy. They have the budget for it, they're just not hired for some reason. And it sounded crazy to me, but.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Yeah, again, I'd wanna know where that surplus goes. Me too, yeah, yeah, the whole thing sounds shady. I'm sorry, I think I cut you off. But it was just my example of when I hear, we lost half our police force, or 39%, because of the George I hear, ah, we lost half our police force or 39% because of the George Floyd riots. I think that sounds like bullshit, right? How many cops just quit their job? Turns out 39% of the ones in Asheville. And I'm sure some of those were like near retirement and stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I saw some other whole police departments somewhere like retired or not nor tired. They quit like the sheriff and everybody quit. You see that happened every now and then when they've got some real gripe with the the city council or whatever Yeah, I like it when they get when they're like fired like Yeah, it's corrupt cops is what I'm yeah, of course every once in a blue moon They find out that like the whole atmosphere of this place was like these guys were a street gang being paid by the government, you know, with taxpayer money. And, you know, the town's better without these cops.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And every once in a blue moon, they go down. I don't know if they wholesale replace everyone or if they just decide not to have a department in a tiny town. Oh, you know, like a week or two ago, we were talking about Europa, that moon of Jupiter is where they might have the oceans of water and hoping they would send a mission to it. The mission left last week.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It'll be there in seven years. I'll still be here. All right, I probably. So it's, but it's doing, it's not landing though. It's making a, it's doing a close orbit, but it's going around and around it like 50 times or something. And I think maybe it's a, it's not landing though. It's making a, it's, it's doing a close orbit, but it's going around and around at like 50 times or something. And I think maybe it's a-
Starting point is 00:46:28 Who launched it? Is it a SpaceX or a NASA? NASA, SpaceX doesn't do exploration. They do commercial. I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I never get it. You got it. Oh, did I?
Starting point is 00:46:41 That's sweet. I'm really happy. I'm saying like, SpaceX has never done anything that NASA didn't do. And in terms of like cost saving stuff, SpaceX is leading the way. They're reusing rockets and that's really cool. And cost savings can lead to more missions,
Starting point is 00:46:57 which is, you know, matters. So NASA hasn't focused enough on saving money, but when it comes to like really pushing the limits, has SpaceX been as far as the moon? No, I don't think they've stayed. They have just low orbit stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, it's been more about the reusability and that vector thrusting stuff too.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I saw a video the other day, the camera was underneath the rocket and it's a bunch of port outlets or whatever, where each one of them is an individual rocket or whatever. And the way they could move was incredible. Like they had so much gyration, like coordinated or uncoordinated, like they were jiggling and doing all sorts of stuff. It was really cool stuff. Yeah. Rockets are cool. I see one in person. Have you seen a big one in person?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Anyone? When I was a little kid, we were in Florida. And we were like at that little strip, where you can kind of see where they were. It wasn't even a launch day is we went by it. So we could see what was going to launch. And I remember thinking like, that's, that's so scary. Like imagine being on there and like, I just pictured like sitting there in that weird, like perpendicular to the earth surface chair
Starting point is 00:48:11 and just being launched with more power than you can ever imagine into the skies and hoping that you don't blow up like all those teachers. Just the one. Teachers suck at space travel though. No one's ever done it successfully. The worst. They were like, it's easier to though. No one's ever done it successfully. The worst. They were like, it's easier to teach you to be an astronaut than it is to be an astronaut
Starting point is 00:48:30 than to be a teacher. Yeah, I picture them to be really large, these rockets. And to just take a skyscraper and launch it into space is a pretty neat accomplishment for mankind. I'm hoping that even if SpaceX isn't doing the full like out there Europa exploration the the reusable rocket thing has got to be the most incredible boon to getting more stuff out there. Well NASA will pay SpaceX to like move their stuff that's that's what that's what the deal will be
Starting point is 00:49:00 like. Whatever it's more stuff out there though is pretty sweet. Yeah, being able to lift more weight. Just more weight doesn't matter what it is. I want to see more information about like Mars, more about Europa, these moons, not planets. These moons around here. Because what he's doing is providing internet access everywhere. Which is actually pretty cool too.
Starting point is 00:49:20 That's cool, he's done a lot of projects, half of them are gay. Mars fucking sucks dude. The more I learn about Mars, the Half of them are. Mars fucking sucks, dude. Ever. The more I learn about Mars, the more I hate Mars. You're all about Mars and they. There's nothing we can do. It's done. It's dead. We need to go so far into the future that we can like build a magnetic shield for Mars. That's genuinely what it needs.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And they're like, yes, it could be done in this manner. And it's like, shit, we're not ready to do that yet. That's like 100 years away. It's like it needs its own magnetic shield or any kind of like water atmosphere that we grow down there. Great. Just gets washed away by the by the sun. And I think you're on the on the money with your Jupiter moon thoughts like I want to be.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah, I want to know what's in there. They just found a new moon that's that's a moon of Uranus called Miranda. Oh my God, we're not even at Jupiter yet. Do you know how much further that is? It's so much further, dude. Dude, it is so much further. Here's the planets. They're all like, at least as a kid,
Starting point is 00:50:20 I always thought like they're all kind of equidistant. You know, that's the way it goes. And then you look at the actual measurements and it's like, oh man, Jupiter is so far away. What is that? A billion, jillion miles made up numbers to me. And then it's like, all right, how much further is Uranus? Oh, three times further than that.
Starting point is 00:50:36 A pentillion miles. That's a number. We've only been a million yards. I don't like I think we only went by Uranus once with one of the maybe the more the voyagers or something like that Did some laps around here? This is a gay planet didn't have it. Let's just go straight to Neptune whenever they But they said there's a moon on that called Miranda. I think that also would have water oh It must yeah flexing motion that flexing or thermal heat or radiation there could be nuclear
Starting point is 00:51:08 Stuff decaying in there creating heat That happens naturally too. I wish that I was my knowledge was deep enough to explain it, but They found life Deep in earth like below the crust in the molten part, where you'd think life couldn't survive. And it has revamped their expectations for where life might be in space. See, that's cool. I like when they figure stuff out like that,
Starting point is 00:51:34 because then we can find more. And also, not to overlook the bottom of the sea, we need to fully investigate the bottom of the sea, see what the hell is going on down there. I found your article. Scientists have found microbial life deep within the earth's crust with the record for the deepest life being around five kilometers below the surface or continents and 10.5 kilometers below the ocean floor indicating a vast deep biosphere where organisms survive in extreme conditions primarily by utilizing chemical reactions within the rock to sustain themselves. This life is primarily composed of bacteria and archaea. I don't
Starting point is 00:52:09 know what archaea is. I don't either. It's some sort of school though. I need to lean into the space stuff the way you have because every time I like get suggested a video about the vastness of space or the moons and planets out there, I always leave and also I'm usually pretty fucking high when I watch these, but I'm like, damn, this is so sick. And I also have almost a feeling of fear where I'm like, what would I feel like if I was out there? What if I was the first person or one of the first people born on a moon like that? Like, what would your conception of reality even be? It would be so distanced. Would religion be compelling to you? Would any of the norms we have here be compelling? Would you think totally differently about resource attribution? Like what you
Starting point is 00:52:55 would develop totally differently, physically and mentally, just based on not being here. What, you're some kind of pod person from Mars? What are you talking about? Or from like Titan or whatever, or Europa. At some point there would be strife between different planets, between a moon and a planet. Like intra-cosmic political wars would happen. That would be interesting, honestly. If we would be so much more fruitful and easy to live in,
Starting point is 00:53:26 that that place would have a huge advantage. It'd be like America versus Ethiopia. Like, oh yeah, there's strife between earth and its moon. Yeah. I mean, kinda. You don't know, man, Ethiopians go hard. Yeah, but. I guess it'll have to be just a horrible situation
Starting point is 00:53:43 on the world's competitive. They're rolling their way through space towards us. I don't know what Ethiopians are up to. It'll have to be just a horrible situation. All right. Space for it. I don't know what Ethiopians are up to. I see, I see videos of their food. I don't like it. I do not like the way they're on Reddit. They'll be like, Oh, my grandma fixed an Ethiopian meal feast for us all. And I'm like, damn, I feel like Jan at that Diwali celebration. Just eating naan bread. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Did you see some other in there like I watched I was watching I'm watching so many survival videos right now about like Bushcraft people that go out in the wilderness and they do all this stuff and I was literally thinking the other day I'm like man I bet Woody would be a good guy to talk to you about this this seems like the kind of thing he knows a thing or two about. I'm not an expert. I do have watched the same videos. I watched one with this dude and he's like the same, like the sweet Mormon guy who like goes out there and is exploring and everything. And he was with this African tribe and he was like clearly putting on like the happiest face, but he's like, we're going to eat dinner with the Mugubi tribe today in Kenya. They're bringing it out and he's like, now this here is a cornmeal that you mush into a paste in your hands. You reach into the communal bowl
Starting point is 00:54:53 and mush it up in your hands and then you dip this paste into a sauce and then you suck it all off your hand. And I'm like, this is so much worse than like the lasagna you have in a freeze dried bag right there. This is gross. Do you know why like Ethiopian food didn't take off? You know why there's not like, oh, an Italian place. Oh, an Ethiopian place. It's like, no, it's because the food doesn't look that good. No, another genre you might enjoy the campers.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It sounds boring, right? But the guy will be like, hey, I bought the warmest sleeping bag on earth. Now, I happen to live here in North of Toronto and I'm gonna go camping on the coldest day of the year. It's negative 45 Fahrenheit, Celsius, doesn't matter. They're about the same at negative 45. Negative 45 degrees that night.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And he's got this sleeping bag that makes him look like, I don't know, a caterpillar or something. It's ginormous. You don't even realize how big this bag is. Let's see, you see his tiny little face dwarfed by the enormity of this giant sleeping bag. He doesn't have a tent. He just has a tarp that he puts on an angle
Starting point is 00:56:03 and sleeps under that. It's snowing out. He collects so much heck and firewood. He has a lot of gear that he brings. So he drags it in his sled. And I, oh my gosh, I wish watching this video burnt half as many calories as making it did. I think the same thing when I'm watching them.
Starting point is 00:56:19 What's the name of this guy? So like I'm watching, cause I'm really liking this content right now. If you remember. I will look at this particular video cause I enjoyed it. You might enjoy the cooking aspect of it too. A lot of these camping videos, they eat well. And I'm like, what am I doing?
Starting point is 00:56:35 I'm bringing dehydrated shit. I had boiling water too. These guys have filet mignon. Like they like dope food. So I'll find it. It's King level camping. Yeah, I cannot get enough of like the the bushcraft camping style content, especially the guys who go in. And like the the primitive stuff is really cool.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Like that one guy primitive technology, you see him do it all where he's like smelting his own ore and all sorts of stuff. And that's really neat. But I also like the guys who aren't like putting on those airs, not out of arrogance, but they're just like, you know what, I'm going out and I'm going camping. And then they'll bring out semi-normal equipment or like semi-normal food rations as they're doing it. And that's easier to self-insert for me because I'm like, okay, like, yeah, I would need that amount of stuff too. I'm not some wilderness expert. And then just getting, I it, I like, same with
Starting point is 00:57:25 anything, they'll make, the expert will make a claim where he's like, so something important to remember is I built this dugout, but you don't just want it to be a dugout straight in. It wants to be, the wind is going to come in off this frozen lake, which means that if I don't build a milieu, a path perpendicular to the entrance entrance that that wind is going to get pushed in there and i'm sitting there watching high like yeah yeah you gotta have that you gotta have that these things that i would have done the same when you so i've been hiking and i've been moto camping and in both spaces you're really weight sensitive and space sensitive even if something was light like a pillow like that I don't have room for that.
Starting point is 00:58:06 This guy brings this sled and a pole saw and he's doing serious work. When I, I'm the fire guy, every time I go camping, I just find myself in the role of fire master. I don't brag well, but I'm really good at it. Like I will, we're gonna have more fucking wood than we need. If you don't back well, but I'm really good at it. Like I believe you, I will. We're gonna have more fucking wood than we need. If you don't back up from my fire,
Starting point is 00:58:29 cause it's too hot, I've failed. And I want that all night long. Well, this guy came from the woody school of making fires. He's chopping trees down big, like six inch to eight inch trees and I don't want to spoil it, but like this, this fucker's got a nut. What I, when I thought he had enough wood, he kept going. And I'm like, I like this guy's style.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I'm going to watch this entire video after this because I've been loving this content. So if you're going to watch some stuff, I also recommend my guy that I linked there. That's John Michael Godier. He's my space guy. He's an author and a futurist and he's got an interesting background.
Starting point is 00:59:06 But the main thing is he's got a really smooth voice and his videos are often about cosmology and I don't know, alien life and sort of imagining what if, lots of that. I have it open and I will say that, but I'm gonna hold this title of the year first. There save it but I fall asleep to John Michael first. There's two things I fall asleep to these days. It's either John Michael Godier or it's thunderstorms, angry thunderstorm videos. I have to sign out of my YouTube for that though or it just ruins the
Starting point is 00:59:35 algorithm. YouTube thinks you like listening to thunderstorms. It's like bro, my whole page. It's like, bro, my whole page. Yeah. I lost my train of thought. YouTube. Cosmology. Oh, watch later. I've been using YouTube's watch later functionality. Maybe everyone does this in obvious times.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I never use that. Dude, there's three dots under every video. You put it in watch later. And sometimes I see something that appeals to me, but I don't wanna bookmark it. And it just goes away. It never gets appeals to me, but you know, I don't want to book market and it just goes away It never gets suggested to me again. I have a list of watch, you know, six eight watch laters all the time Yeah, I like the uh survival stuff too. I I I would like to see um,
Starting point is 01:00:17 I like the so what I like is solo survival with primitive tools, but I don't want to see them like with primitive tools, but I don't want to see them like smelt metal. Like you should have your own saw dude. You should have a gun. That's pretty cool though, isn't it? Like the primitive technology guy who sips through all that iron rich water and mud and he gets the and he makes it into ore. A hat on a hat. But it's not a hat on a hat if he doesn't have other tools. I don't need to see him make it because I myself would never be in a sense. Part of the fun to me, I suppose,
Starting point is 01:00:52 is imagining like, yeah, maybe if the world fell apart, I'd need to know how to make a cabin or a tent or a lean-to or a fire. But I'm never ever gonna run out of steel. You know what I think I like? I like watching people who are competent and working really hard. And both of the styles you guys are talking about fit that my guy with the pole saw and what I thought were over the top, amazing meals for camping.
Starting point is 01:01:20 He was really good at what he did. And he's more to Kyle's style where,'s style where like, he had some tools. But the dude who like, I don't know, builds his own hot tub by clawing the ground with his fingertips, that's amazing too. Yeah, that's it. Oh, I will say, and I'm not saying it's the videos that you guys watch, but a lot of those guys
Starting point is 01:01:40 that copied the primitive tech style, they're fake, They're so fake. They do lots of... So there's words again, Philippines is good or bad. The Philippine guys, there's a couple channels of guys from the Philippines that totally lie about all this stuff. There's like heavy machinery tracks in the background and it's like, get real.
Starting point is 01:02:02 This guy you suggested, Xander, this is wild because literally last night I borderline ran out of content on the Mormon Guys channel and Xander was suggested. And so just last night I spent like an hour and 40 minutes watching him survive for five straight days in the rainforest. Just like the, the blaze nature of things that would freak me out where he's like,
Starting point is 01:02:27 you know, I'm not cleaning this out for fun. It's cause you know, I got to scare all the scorpions and I'm like, yeah, you gotta, you better, you better scare the scorpion. And then he'll like get stung or get bit or a problem will occur. And whereas like I would imagine myself in a complete collapse scenario, he's like, you know what, it's been overall a good day. I've probably got seven ounces of water in me I've got this four ounce fish and it's gonna be a delicious dinner and I'm like you look so hungry Yeah, this guy's Anders seems
Starting point is 01:02:55 Seems I like him guy. I'm like him. I hope you like the video Regularly, is he one of your go-tos for this John? I've watched him twice So this isn't a genre that I've been as into as you, but it was, no, in the last two weeks. There's also this guy, it's even further away from like the camping thing. He's like a homestead guy, like the lone wrangler or something like that.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And he, that's not right, but something wrangler. It's not Wrangle Star. Wrangle Star. Yes. I know him. Yes. And so he like does the videos where he like, you know, there's no auspice of, you know, wilderness.
Starting point is 01:03:34 He's like, I need to build, I need to irrigate this farm I'm trying to make. How do I go about it? And he's not like always like an all-knowing, like content creator kind of guy. So you'll just see him be like, I was thinking, and if I use this size pipe and I do this and that, and I maneuver and I create this, that could work. And then he'll do it and it'll fail. And he'll be like, all right, well, what I learned from this is that you can't have the pipe be this round or the pressure is insufficient to actually spray to all the different areas of the garden.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And so like, I enjoy that as well. Someone who's really handy and good with that stuff. Just apply problem solving is fascinating. It's been a while. I used to watch his content a lot, but it was like eight years ago. So he's OG, the guy you're talking about. Okay. Um, he got into some like gimmicky stuff, like he'd just take DeWalt and
Starting point is 01:04:24 Milwaukee impact drivers and have them fight. Oh, I've seen a ton of that guy. I've seen new videos. Can I just say like, all right, so that's probably Not the end like say all be all whatever. Um for tests. It's like, ah, the DeWalt lost don't use the DeWalt It's like well, wait a minute. Does that replicate like real world usage scenarios that predictive values that applicable? But on the other hand, it's like, I don't know, man, that one died. That Milwaukee's still alive after all that, you know, you're right. I just need a little more in the testing. Like, for example, put on the top of the stairs and knock it down. I'm going to be doing that. That's
Starting point is 01:05:01 a more likely way that I break a tool. Lots of dropping. Yeah. You want to wrap? I got a, I got some be doing that. That's a more likely way that I break a tool lots of dropping. Yeah You want to wrap I got a I got some stuff. Yes. I got a taste steak to make. All right. Oh enjoy that Okay, pkn 433 you gotta get a sous vide

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