Painkiller Already - PKN 539

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKN 539. God damn these trailers. I'm wiping the tears from my eyes. I was showing Woody a clip from Space Marines 2 where Titus and the boys are holding the flag down and the like hell spawner whatever comes up, the hell machine, like a dreadnought but it's evil comes out of the the fucking hole and all hope is lost and then calgar shows up or whatever his name is and just saves the fucking fucking day i think it's calgar sure if anyone would know it would be you i wouldn't say that probably calgar among the three amongst us yeah Amongst three of us, you're the king of the hill here. That was Gorlach. Yeah, that's Kalgar. Yeah, so Kalgar is like the chapter master. He's like the boss of bosses of the Space Marines that look like our Space Marines in
Starting point is 00:00:53 this game. So him showing up was a big deal. That was cool. It's a great edit. Huge oversight that one dude not wearing a helmet just had blown up. Yeah, so you know, sometimes they wear their helmets, sometimes they don't. You know, some of them are so hardcore sometimes they don't, you know, some of them are so hardcore.
Starting point is 00:01:06 That was not the time for styling. If I were in charge, I'd be like, put your fucking helmet on, Greg. So I don't think I understood everything I saw. It appeared to be about 600 v 12. Yeah, and a ship showed up and how many more entered the fight one? It's all like me. So alright, so you've got like Maybe 15 or 20 Regular space Marines plus Titus who is their their leader holding it down And like you said there's all the enemies just flowing non-stop and you play that part in the game
Starting point is 00:01:37 it's not just a cutscene and then like a They're getting completely overwhelmed. They can't fight that big giant thing that came out that things like super scary and yeah Calgar And all of his ships show up and so they like bombard them all with their ships blow them all up but then Calgar lands and he's got like fucking auto cannons on each arm and Each of his boys has a sword and a shield which is cool as shit is like honor guard or whatever There's some great like in one of the novels, there's two custodians. So basically what happens is like 10,000 years in the future
Starting point is 00:02:09 and like all it's almost a myth that there used to be Primarchs. Primarchs are the sons of the emperor and like all of them died in this big civil war. But now in the current lore, some of them are waking up or being revived. And suddenly you have this like just an order of magnitude, more powerful human being is in the world. And there's this great moment where the custodians,
Starting point is 00:02:30 there's bodyguards to the newly returned Primark are like, we're his bodyguards. What are we? What do we even do it? Why are we here? This is a waste of time. Why? What are we protecting him from? Well, you need bruisers on a line even with an all-star like you like melts time They're like it's at a certain point like the technology and like the old Yeah Was like Changes time from a solid to a liquid as you do
Starting point is 00:03:03 Care like like they've got guns, um, like some of the weapons, it'll be like, it causes you to have been shot. Oh, wait, what? And you're like, wait, what, what do you mean? It's like, well, I pulled the trigger and you have been shot. Well, we call this the past perfect tense gun. Yeah. He will have been shot once.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah. The tech, not the old tech was tech is like that, like mind blowing. It's like, oh, it creates an alternate reality where you have been shot. And then, you know, it melds with this reality. And suddenly there you are shot. Yeah. Someone had too much time just fucking shoot. That's not fair. The scene was reminiscent of.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Gears of War when Cold Screen shows up. Like it's a real similar thing. I got, dude, that was one of my favorite scenes in all of gaming. It's not the best game I've ever played, but that scene, you are pinned down. I was playing with my friend Dan. We had him on PKA once and we're at my house
Starting point is 00:03:59 and Dan sucks, right? He is bad at video games. I don't know, like maybe if you've ever played with like your girlfriend or something, you understand the experience. You're carrying. Yeah, I am carrying and I'm not as good then as I am now. It was like pre-YouTube Woody,
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'd had less time on the sticks. And we're just barely keeping alive. And there's like waves and waves and the situation gets unwinnable seemingly right and all of a sudden Coltrane shows up and he's hooting and hollering and he's got a chainsaw gun he just slices a guy in two and he's like nobody does it better than Coltrane and I'm like I have to agree until up. Yeah, so it's similar type deal. I love it. I love those that that that plotline. You love the victory or the the approach I like three maybe
Starting point is 00:04:53 like it's like when Gandalf shows up when everything is lost in the jaws of defeat. Yeah. When you need a hero and that hero arrives and does this thing that I'm digging it. I love it a lot. Yeah, for sure. If it's done well, I really like that too. I remember the first time I was probably 11 or 12 when the two towers came out and I hadn't
Starting point is 00:05:15 read Lord of the Rings yet. And so like shit was looking bad at Helm's Deep. Like it was like this is a rough spot. Yes. I was on a huge high when the elves showed up. I'm like, my understanding of elves is they're unstoppable. And then it's like not even close. Huge amounts of them getting fucked up. And then Gandalf shows up and rides that unbelievably dangerously steep
Starting point is 00:05:40 fall off on his horses and they fuck up the vanguard of the Uruguay. That was sick. I remember watching that and getting that feeling Yeah, I need more scenes like that in movies more really good ones I just can't watch him in front of people who don't respect criers Live it up do it up. I cry too. Oh, I thought it was a love not gay when you do it. Woody's fine. It'd be funny if Woody has these like strong admiration tears and when you see the same scene it's like breakup tears shower that is ugly cry he's got that solemn Indian tear rolling down his face yeah I'm just ugly crying like a 17 year old who lost her boyfriend McDonald's Styrofoam cup
Starting point is 00:06:34 fuck that Indian he wasn't even a Native American that guy was an Italian he was a Mexican nah Ralphie set me straight on that one Ralphie Cifireto. And hey, if the chief don't quit talking the way he does, maybe we tell everybody. Maybe we tell everybody we know.
Starting point is 00:06:52 If they said that guy's not really like American Indian, he's Mexican. It's like, he's probably at least half Native American then, right? I don't, I don't. For some percentage. You can tell which like, I don't. For some percentage. You can tell which like Mexicans and South Americans are like more Spanish versus more Native. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You can tell they're shorter. Yeah. They weren't large people, which I guess there's no reason to be large people. I've got a tremendous new show to recommend. It's called The Land Man. It's got Billy Bob Thorne and it's made by Taylor Sheridan, the guy who makes all those fucking shows. The The Kevin Costner show with the ranch and everything.
Starting point is 00:07:35 The Cowboy shows. This show is really fucking good. Billy Bob Thornton is such a piece of shit. If you like Billy Bob Thornton and like Bad Santa, when he's an insufferable son of a bitch with a wonderful vocabulary and a never-ending like ability to just say well fuck you piece of shit to anybody and everybody. That's his character non-stop and he's the land man for a medium-sized oil company in West Texas and he's got to manage like his crazy ex-wife and all these like ex-felon oil rig workers and his billionaire boss played by john ham who's doing great um john ham's in
Starting point is 00:08:14 there and he's got a whole crew around him of like really loyal roughneck motherfuckers um and he's so like low down and beat up like like and he's got so whoever's writing this is tremendous like I'm laughing if he's writing it then he's a hell of a writer because it is hilarious like he's Billy Barb's is at the bar and he's like drinking Michelob ultras and the guy he's like nah Billy Bob said I don't drink I'm I was I'm an alcoholic he's like those have alcohol in them he's like these have three percent fucking alcohol in a buddy. How about I have six of these and tomorrow night have six whiskies and come in
Starting point is 00:08:49 here and you tell me drinking and who's not drinking. You must not, you must be rich or something on some kind of a journey. Must not want a goddamn tip. Yeah. Enjoy seven more years later on the guys like you want change I'm surprised you even have the gall to ask hell. Yeah, I want my change He bangs his finger at one point so badly that he's got to go to the ER and the doctor's like well I'll bring in the surgeon and this person and that person he's like dog
Starting point is 00:09:22 I ain't got time to spend 12 fucking months on a pinky finger cut to some bitch off and stitch it up Cuz it's just an inch of pinky finger and he's like I can't do that What we'd have to bring it he gets his pocket knife out and cuts the rest of his finger off He's like there you go. And let me trash can there All right. Now, what do you think the odds are this will just scab over? there. All right. Now, what do you think the odds are this will just scab over? Virtually impossible, sir. All right. Well you get somebody here to stitch me the fuck up. I'll be in the room. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:09:54 You bring up the Republican version of woke as fuck might as well have like women beating up men and shit like his other shows do. I'd say I'm not super sensitive to the woke thing, maybe I'm just forgiving of it, but that shit, like when they sit there and rail against windmills and spout misinformation about shit, it is- Is that not true?
Starting point is 00:10:20 It is true. I went and fact-checked the fucking scene. Like he's- What part wasn't true. So that the windmills were like, that they were bad for the environment essentially. He's like, you know how much diesel oil they burn making the concrete?
Starting point is 00:10:36 I looked into it. Takes four and a half months for a windmill to be like carbon neutral again. Sure, it takes oil to build them, but they pay that back- Which part of it though? Four and a half months. He said that he was like, it's not clean energy,
Starting point is 00:10:46 it's alternative energy. And his whole thing was about how windmills weren't really good for the environment and how environmentally expensive it is to make them. Yeah, yeah. Like which part of what he said wasn't accurate. He said that windmills were bad for the environment when in fact they are good for the environment
Starting point is 00:11:07 compared to oil. They don't offset their carbon emissions before they- And he's wrong. They offset their carbon emissions before the six month point. Which carbon emissions are you factoring into that because you laid out a cadre of them? I can't like fact by, I looked into it
Starting point is 00:11:25 and these things like that, he was trying to say the, what is it? The carbon fiber that goes into it, the transportation. The concrete. Check it yourself, look it up, Google it. How long does it take for a windmill to be carbon neutral? Well, look it up. Cause you'll find between four and six months.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Well, what I want to know is what does that mean? If we're talking about the raw materials to construct the windmill portion? I can believe that we're not fiberglass and steel but if we're talking about the the gigantic amount of concrete that was created and then the Transportation to move those huge 400 foot tall things to the place where they're going to be stood up and all of that I could imagine there's I don't know what I don't know if you can't imagine to transport the wind put windmill takes that much energy Diesel trucks. Yeah, that's fucking nothing right like it's cuz they have whole farms of them
Starting point is 00:12:13 Like it's not like but each one pays off in a couple of months. I heard that and I was curious as well Yeah, so I looked at layout and and then, they portrait he's with this female hot attorney. And she's an absolute moron with regards to being outside, right? Like she sees a rattlesnake and she freezes and she freezes for so long, like minutes go by. This guy's like 300 feet away. He walks back to his truck, grabs a shovel, walks over there and cuts the decapitates the rattlesnake and the whole time she's like scared to death. Meanwhile, I look at the
Starting point is 00:12:50 YouTube comments because that's how I'm watching and I'm seeing all these YouTube clips and everyone is just masturbating in the comments of how great Texas oil men are, how everything he said is true. It is just it's like wish casting this. I still don't think you've exactly proven that what he said is false. I I because he laid out a lot of factors that go into a windmill actually being out there and running. Yeah. And and and again, I he's not he's an oil man. He is the general manager of an oil company. I don't expect him to be on the side of clean energy here,
Starting point is 00:13:28 but he made a good point. But he made a good point. He's like, if these windmills were the future, these oil guys would be investing in them. Like they'd be, they wouldn't, they'd build some more out here. They'd truck a few more out. But he laid out a lot of carbon sources from windmill production.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I don't know if his facts were right. I didn't care if they were right because I took it as the general manager of an oil company talking shit. Yeah. But I watched like thousands of YouTube comments all jerking off to the idea that windmills are bad for the environment. So what I can tell when I've looked into it is that, uh, it's like when we talked about it on the show where it's like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:14:10 wind and solar are so efficient or wind is a joke compared to solar. Wind is the silliest form of energy. Like it's expensive to set up. They break down all the time. And then those the data points you see about how quickly they pay themselves off. Like Kyle said, they're not taking the full account of the manufacturing carbon. And then they're also assuming constant workload. And wind is the least likely of solar, nuclear, hydroelectric,
Starting point is 00:14:36 even oil, natural gas, like nothing is carbon payback time is five to seven months, according to this thing, I can't find anything higher than seven months to pay off its carbon offset. I don't know if I lost, you guys or if you lost. No, I heard everything. It's basically, if you look at it, you go, oh, well, let's assume that when the turbine is turning at its optimal speed, it generates this much energy
Starting point is 00:15:00 per X amount of time. And then you extrapolate that incorrectly to think, oh, well, then it will pay off within this timeframe. In reality, those things don't spin for huge portions of the year. They're not efficient. Without enormous subsidies as a renewable energy source, they wouldn't be tenable. So which study didn't take that into effect? The one we talked about on the show, where we talked, this is probably four or five months ago, where we talked about the efficiency of different things. And then we found a site that said, Oh, nuclear is actually terrible. And it's way less efficient than solar and wind. And then I looked at
Starting point is 00:15:34 the site and it's like an advocacy group against nuclear energy. And all their data points were what you were saying, where it's like, actually, all these blades, even though they take fucking forever to fall apart and decompose, you know, they pay for themselves in six to eight months. And then I, so I, you know, looked into it more, watched a YouTube video or two, and they're like, yes, that's technically true if you assume constant production. But unfortunately, sources that aren't nuclear, natural gas and oil have a huge amount of issue and hydroelectric have an issue with constant energy production. And so it would be like saying like, oh, I made $100 today, you know, selling lemonade on the hottest day of the year.
Starting point is 00:16:11 If I extrapolate this, I'll make $36,500 this year from lemonade on my street, but it's not sustainable. Well, politics, well, the studies I looked at did account for that. It's a tremendous TV show. I literally binge watched, I think, seven hours of it last night or something. I stayed up to three in the morning, like watching all of it that there was. It is so fucking good. I love the
Starting point is 00:16:35 writing so much. His daughter is like 17 year old jailbait and she's like around the house constantly in her underwear, freaking out his old lawyer roommate. It's like that part of the relationship to Laris. His son is like dropped out of college and he wants to be a rough neck. He wants to run an oil company someday, but he feels like he needs to learn the industry from the bottom up.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And he's just getting beat up by Mexicans. And it's just, it's rough. Everybody's having a hard time. And Billy Bob is so sour and such a piece of shit, like every second of every day Except to his family. He's great to them. He's a very he reminds me a little bit of Tony Soprano in that like he's got There's a different Tony when he's talking to his children For sure then when he's talking to somebody doesn't like or somebody just doesn't have time for or the patience for I love the show
Starting point is 00:17:23 I can't recommend the Landman enough. Politics aside, I don't care if oil's, they do lay out, John Ham has this soliloquy. He goes on a fucking rant about oil at this oil, he's at a meeting of oil company owners and one of them is trying to, he's like, we must invest in green energy. And John Ham goes on a fucking rant about everything
Starting point is 00:17:44 that oil is in and it's great. Taylor's Sheridan shows always do this. Like I watched Yellowstone and they basically just laid out that it seems like every woman in Wyoming could beat up any man from California. And they show this caricature of the other people. And it is as woke as can be just for the red team.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It is. It looks like my life experience. I honestly like the people that, especially this show more than Yellowstone cause Yellowstone has some superheroes in it. And it's like, where'd you come from boss? You're in the wrong movie. You should be fighting Bond.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Thornton's character is a superhero. Like I saw him basically stare down the Mexican cartel and tell them to get off their land Stop stealing planes deal. Hey take your fucking licks like a man, right? The cartel came there to kill him and he's like basically calling him pussies. That's superhero shit No, I thought that was like just you know, tough guy stuff I didn't think anything of that and and if anything he's like lying through his teeth every step of the way to keep them from Murdering him and it's like do you he's got a fucking satellite looking at us right now here You're out here with your ass big old SUVs put your guns down. They're looking and it's
Starting point is 00:18:56 You could tell the Mexican guys like I Don't believe you but I'm not sure I don't believe you So I'm gonna fucking yeah. Yeah. All right. I mean, you know, I don't believe you. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I'm gonna fucking yeah yeah all right I mean he's I don't know he's got he had a gun. I think I watched a scene where they had a like mask on it like a hood where they kidnapped him. Opening scene. Yeah bound into a chair basically telling the cartel that like they need to shape up while he's the guy bound to a chair. Yeah no I dig that because like like his point is always like superhero His point is always like do you know how much money that fucking with me and killing me is going to tie up?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Do you know the people whose phones will ring? Do you know who their friends are? They're called the federal government They're called the United States military They'll be down here playing army games where you cocksuckerers steal the fall. Like you don't understand and every time he brings that he plays that card you can tell it's like yeah I really don't want to make any trouble. Like I wish threats would just get through to you people but I know I dig it. I love the show so much. Um can't recommend it enough. Uh you know it's a TV show so I don't expect to be 100% realistic and I don't know shit about the oil business. So it's fun to watch like them do the rough neck shit. Like I like watching them do oil derrick stuff and yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I haven't seen those scenes, but I love that type of stuff too, like dude, I don't know if it's changed much, but I've seen people like, I think it's a drill and it's a big metal vertically oriented rod, and they're like wrapping chains around it, and maybe connecting another rod so they can drill a little deeper, I'm just guessing, I'm not an oil man.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And I don't know what they're doing exactly, but I can tell it is outlandishly dangerous, incredibly dirty. It takes a strong man to do it, who is okay with little things like losing tips of fingers and having oil in it for the rest of the day. They're like hockey players out there. They're playing through injuries and kicking it. It's wild to watch. So I looked it up. Those oil wells can be from any state. I looked up West Texas oil
Starting point is 00:20:59 wells. How deep are they? And they said 500 feet to five miles. And I was like, oh, okay. So- It's not even helpful. And so, and so what you- That's all of it. What's the human lifespan? Five to 300. Like, what do you-
Starting point is 00:21:14 It was a little helpful though, cause I knew that some of them could be outrageous and I could sort of use that outrageous number for my calculations. Because that thing you're talking about, Woody, they do it when they're putting, you know, the pipe that goes down there that pumps the oil out they're putting it in section by section i think 50 feet or something like that at a time that's one of the things so tall and so the
Starting point is 00:21:32 wrapping and unwrapping is um attaching each section cut putting them together while like some jaws hang on to it and then lowering it into the hole and then grabbing a new one and like they're putting the pipe in or taking the pipe out or one of the or both And so I thought the thing is though There could be a mile of that two inch steel pipe just floating Like that claw is holding a mile of pipe or two miles of pipe and it's like the imagining the amount of like scary forces that we're just fucking around with a willy-nilly
Starting point is 00:22:06 And we're trying to be quick about it because we're a mile down and there's two miles to go and it's dark Like you see how people I get this hand Yeah, I get this hand in the in the clad there's like this clog machine And it grabs the pipe so that you can move the next thing over it gets his hand in it right away Just crushes his fucking hand like a doll. It was, it's a fun show. I'm digging it a lot. These injuries are making me think of a couple of stories my my grandpa told me and then told me about my great grandpa, that
Starting point is 00:22:34 whole side of my family's farmers and they have been for many generations. And my grandpa was telling me about a story where he in old age, like was having some issue with his pinky that he thought was going to be a permanent loss of function. He wasn't able to really bend it. And he was like, I'm trying to do these things, you know, outside, because he still does as much as he can. This is a few years ago. And he's like, I just, it was getting in the way. Like I'd reached to grab something and my fucked up, like pinky wouldn't bend right. And it knocks something over. Or it would, it was more trouble than it was worth.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And so I went in to the doctor's office and the doctor was like, and it's like a little tiny doctor's office in Southern Missouri. My grandpa said to him, like, hey, my pinky, I ain't banding right, I ain't working right, just a real, real bitch. And it hurts sometimes. What can we do about this? And then my grandpa's doctor was like, well, I could, I guess we could sever the nerve and that would stop these spasms and weird rigidity you're getting. But the pinky is like, it'll still move in this way or sever a certain ligament. I don't remember, but it would, it would return some movement, but not a lot, but wouldn't at least spaz out
Starting point is 00:23:44 on them. And so he said he was there with a few nurses and my, but not a lot, but wouldn't at least spaz out on him. And so he said he was there with a few nurses and my, my grandpa was like, all right, but. If that doesn't work and you can tell it failed while I'm under, you know, you just chop it off. Okay. Or, and he's like, well, number one, we're not going to put you under for this. We're just local. And he's like, all right, but you know, I want you to know you, you just chop it off. If they can't work. Cause I'm damn near 80 year old.
Starting point is 00:24:05 It ain't worth it for me no more. Have this, this finger jacking around, not messing with things. And he says that the nurses like we're all laughing and like, oh, what a funny joke. And like the old doctor was like, fucker you laughing at. He's you think he's joking. If it don't work, we're cutting his finger off. Like that's what's going to happen here. And then, uh, my great grandpa got doctors. One of his, uh, he knew finger off. Like that's what don't happen here. And then my great grandpa got one of his-
Starting point is 00:24:27 Doctors spoke grandpa, he knew the deal. He knew exactly what was up. Thankfully he didn't have to get his whole finger removed. He got a few things snipped and now it doesn't work right, but at least he has all his fingers. My great grandpa, he, I never knew him with all his fingers. He had so many missing nubs and problems. And apparently he went to a doctor after.
Starting point is 00:24:46 This guy's father? That's the great grandpa? Yes, yeah. And so it was, he got his hand caught in the thresher as stereotypical as that is of an injury and he lost one of his thumbs up to like the first, I guess the only nub you have on your thumb.
Starting point is 00:25:04 He lost the end of his ring to the ring. Thresher makes hay bales out of hay, right only nub that you have on your thumb. He lost. He ended his ring to me. Thresher makes hay bales out of hay, right? No, that's a hay baler. Oh, I'm sorry. A thresher collects corn? What does a thresher do? So I don't know what a thresher does because I've never used one
Starting point is 00:25:17 and it wasn't any part of the farming that I've ever done. But my presumption is it separates the good part of a plant from the bad part as you drive it over the tractor and so there's probably a lot of moving blades separating like wheat from chaff or you know, whatever, whatever the good part is. I never knew what he was actually doing that day. Zach, show us a video of a thresher. I googled it Kyle, you're way off. It's a kind of shark.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Which also explains the missing fingers. Yeah, well, it's like, yeah, Kyle's right. You put a bunch of grain or whatever in one end and then it threshes it, I suppose, comes out more. Zach says it's exactly what I was saying. It's exactly what Kyle described. And so he got his hand caught in it. It ripped off part of his thumb, most of his ring finger, but it didn't rip it clean off.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And so he was like, maybe I can go to this doctor in 1952 and have him fix my finger, even though apparently it was, it was just destroyed. And he went there and he said, we can try and fix this. Like we can try and put your finger back together. It's never going to look the same though. And apparently my great grandpa was like, I ain't got time for this, just lop it off.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Like there ain't no way, you know, when I come in here, I've seen you, you know, you look at my finger, you think I don't see your face. I know there's no bringing this finger back. So you lop it off and then I gotta get back to work, you know, do whatever you gotta do. And so he says that the doctor was like, all right. And there were nurse like in training nurses in there at the time. And that he like butcher chopped his finger off and then two nurses
Starting point is 00:26:54 fainted. Like just because apparently that, you know, even in the doctor's office, there's a lot of blood with your finger off and it spurts around. And so yeah, I remember like being spooked going and meeting him as a kid and being like, there's so many missing fingers on this guy. So both hands at at least one missing like bit. He was not there. My grandfather worked at Harbin Lumber Company for 25 years or something like that. He ended up retiring there. But he dropped or rather someone else with a forklift dropped a large stack of lumber like many stacks of two of like two by sixes onto his finger I don't remember which finger now but one of his fingers was like half a finger like like half of it
Starting point is 00:27:42 had been like crushed off. And I was like, how how much time did you take? He's like, oh, you know, it happened on a Friday. So Monday, I know, you know, I was like, are you serious? You went back to work on Monday. He's like, they saw it up good. I have what you call a kind of a rise and grind mentality. You don't even know. Like, like absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Like that's, that's where I get a lot of my, I have so much appreciation for that, that old Honduran man's work ethic. Like, like just grinded that, that job. Just always wanted to work. Respect. I don't have any grandfathers, but my father-in-law was in the Korean War and something happened that fucked up his ring finger. And I don't think it was anything cool combat related,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but whatever, just some warship, maybe operating heavy equipment. And he goes, the med team takes care of it briefly. And then they're like, all right, his commanding officer is like, Alright, your finger's fucked up, I can see that. So his rehab, I want you to clear all the rocks out of this huge camp. And he's just picking up rocks out of the ground and like making a pile of them. Because this guy, I don't know if he gives a fuck about my father-in-law and actually thinks it's rehab or what. But my father-in-law, as he told the story,
Starting point is 00:29:06 acted like it was good rehab to bring strength back to his hand. And I'm like, does your finger bend? No. And he's like, look at it. And the finger is like 45 degree angle, the last point. And I'm like, it's not straight, it doesn't work, it doesn't bend.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Maybe these are terrible things. Didn't work out well at all. Jesus Christ. I imagine you have because Woody you're from further north. So, I don't know how much farmers or that you have in your family history but I I would think Kyle you might have some of this. Have you ever seen like really old family pictures like my grandpa's great grandparents like right when photography like my grandparents have some of this. Have you ever seen like really old family pictures? Like my grandpa's great grandparents, like right when photography, like my grandparents have some of these pictures up in their house and all like ask like, so who is this? Nobody. Oh, that's my great, great uncle Jethro. You know,
Starting point is 00:29:55 he was a farmer. So laugh, you know, whatever. And they're like old west pictures where it's like a bunch of people standing in the wilderness near like like a lumber that Covered I have so old. It's oh, that's cool. It's not old west It's Ireland like they're literally in Ireland and England farming country in the old country. Yeah, that's really Clearly a well-to-do lineage taking to photography so early my Didn't come across camera people till, well, about 45 years ago. No, I can tell that my ancestors in those.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, they had a Polaroid. They were like, oh my God. You know when you can tell those people way back in the day. We didn't have disposable cameras, we'd just throw them away. We didn't know. Now he's on Tinder. The pictures of like my great, great, great, great,
Starting point is 00:30:45 however long back it would be, like those guys I'm talking about, like you can tell they're not used to taking pictures because they're doing that like almost worried face of like, he's stealing my soul or something. What the hell's going on here? Like that, you know, the old, the really old pictures were smiling, nobody told them to do that yet.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So they just kind of like, what do we do? We have to stand here still for four minutes? But the exposure time was like a minute or two. And so you had to sit very still. And so you'd want to find a relaxed position. And it seemed like everybody frowned, but there's those famous photographs. Of course, there's that one of that Japanese guy, and he's like making silly, like, it looks like a modern photo, because you've never seen an old-timey Person like make a goofy face before like yeah Why it makes sense that you wouldn't see old-timey people ever make goofy faces But it makes so much less sense to believe that yes in old times. We didn't make goofy faces very stoic
Starting point is 00:31:38 We were yeah, like no that Japanese guys like Holy shit that can't be from 17. What? Or it's not 17, but it's like 18 something. 18 something. I think exposure time is upward of a minute. Then I probably don't smile either. I don't know that I can hold the same smile for a minute.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, exactly. Like they were goofy back then too, but they were like, all right, picture. And they're like, Oh, should we do a funny face? And it's like, no, for three minutes, my cheeks are gonna hurt. Have you seen that? So have you seen what the mothers would do so as not to distract their tiny child for those long exposure times when they were doing a mother and child portrait? Zach, see if you can find this. So what the mother does, she would have like a cloak over her face, or almost like a beekeepers hood over her face that made her look maniacally
Starting point is 00:32:24 terrifying. But it made the child not know there was a person there. So they would just sit there like a dunce and like not move for the photograph. The idea, like, and the thing is, there's like multiple examples of this. It wasn't like one dumb lady did this. It's like what you did when you took a photograph
Starting point is 00:32:39 with your kid, I guess. And it's haunting when you see it because it's a black and white, like old timey photo. And it's clearly a haunting when you see it because it's a black and white like old-timey photo And it's a clearly a lady in a dress, but for some reason her head has like this like a cloak over it She's hidden like yeah, it doesn't exist and there's a little kids least used to look weird. They used to be really ham-faced Look at them. See them ham faced kids See them ham faced kids that kid on the left in the middle has already seen a lot of times worth dude That kid's got hollowed out eyes.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You know, I don't think he stayed still long enough. He's around a little bit. You know that kid's hungry. You know, if you could reach through time and say, son, are you hungry? You go, yes, sir. So hungry. Wow. Such a weird way to die. I don't think I've ever seen this before. It's like, have you seen have you seen like Halloween pictures? Pictures from like 1992. Yeah absolutely like Christmas 92. My mom and my grandma have those those shits on. Oh my god I swear to God I didn't see the mom until just now. I didn't see the mom right away because that little kid is really cute on the right. The giant harp? That's a toddler. That kid can talk.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Zach, pull up pictures of like those Halloween 1898 pictures. The kids in the hall. It's probably later than that. Cause I'm remembering a very spooky Mickey mouse costume. And that's probably like 1915 or something. It's like, it's like, it's, it's like early 1900s. I know what you're talking about. But that's another thing, watch and you're like, it's so spooky back then. It's all like homemade kind of ghoulish scary.
Starting point is 00:34:18 This one's not bad. This is more like a kid's play. Like that kid's like an aristocrat over there and you got a cowboy. But it's just a different time. It's like you're looking at their little outfits and these ones aren't too scary let me find it this this you're finding the absolute best ones that's a little bo peep that's that one doesn't even look that one looks like they just put a filter on a photo from like 1990 though right like like they look i don't know how to explain it like certain eras
Starting point is 00:34:44 you can tell like like that oh that's an old timey person i don't know if it's like they look I don't know how to explain it like certain eras you can tell like like that oh That's an old timey person. I don't know if it's because they look thin or gone or because they've all got those rosy cheeks or what but like Those are scary masks. Okay. Okay. I don't like those Here's a nice little group of kids. What year is this Zach? I'm curious like this one in particular Oh this 1890s. Damn it, this is AI. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:35:11 No, not this one. I found a good one and then I looked a little closer and it's AI. Not a lot of fat kids in 1890, eh? Hell no. Kids were, kids were. This is like, like this is more spooky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Hey, someone. Has anyone watched Silo yet? I'm chomping at the bit to talk about it. This is like, like this is more spooky. Yeah. There's someone- Has anyone watched Silo yet? I'm chomping at the bit to talk about it. So Taylor hasn't finished season one, but I promise you- No, no, I remembered the last, season one ends with, I guess spoilers for people, but she finally crests the horizon of that hill
Starting point is 00:35:42 and leaves the fortress. So I did see that. Meanwhile, there's those people back in the bowels of the silo doing something in that watery area, like discovering that there's a door back there. A bigger group of people were starting to question because they were kind of seeing the weird flashes of the giant screen go from the reality to the fake.
Starting point is 00:35:59 But to address Woody's question, my girlfriend loves the show as much or more than we do and she is killing me to start watching but I'm just like I want them all out because I'm gonna I'm going to watch them all I watch them all and One or one sitting or maybe two and I don't like waiting. I don't like waiting I want to crush it and like know the whole thing at once I've only seen the first two episodes and I won't spoil anything for you. I recognize you don't want that at all. I am struggling with the plot movement in. I could tell you what happened in the first episode in 15 seconds and you miss anything important. It's an hour. It's an hour and it would and I swear 15 seconds is all I need to sum up that episode.
Starting point is 00:36:45 The second one's a little bit more is happening but it's still I'm like what about this plotline? What about that? Where are my answers? I waited like what two years between seasons for answers and please move it along. Not just there's um she's doing something all describing is kind of crafty, right? She's making, she's solving a problem by putting things together.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And, oh my God, that unfolded for a good 40 minutes. What are we doing here? Like, is this a woodworking YouTube video or something? Like, what are we doing? It's not wood, I'm just. It's the thing I want. And I'm interested in how you, I don't think you're more tolerant of a slow burn than I am, but I'm not completely.
Starting point is 00:37:31 It depends. Like to be worth it. Like there's this like give and take. I need you to like, I need you to like, you know, make me want to see the thing and tease me a little. It's like sex. Like you gotta be, don't be a cock tease, but don't be a whore.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Like you gotta find somewhere in the middle where I can all have a good time and I can respect this TV show in the morning. You know what I mean? And if they don't ever give me anything, if all they're ever doing is showing me ankle, I'm just, after a while I'm pissed off at you, you're lost and I start thinking that like,
Starting point is 00:38:03 you don't have good writing, that you don't know what's going On any more than I do as the viewer It sounds like I'm doing a good job by waiting till we've got ten episodes. I'll give you a little Bright news that I read today. They're they're filming seasons three and four back-to-back Which is a lose that maybe they won't be so spread apart. Yeah, I guess that means that Apple greenlit like Maybe they won't be so spread apart. Yeah, I guess that means that Apple greenlit like $400 million or something like that
Starting point is 00:38:28 for the next three years on that show alone. So that must mean it's doing well, that lots of people are watching season two because that's always my fear in this modern streaming era that you're gonna fall in love with something and then have it end prematurely like the way we had like Mine Hunters, like, oh my God, I don't know if you guys remember mine hunters with the it was that it was the yes super genius guy who
Starting point is 00:38:51 seemed to nearly read mines no not a number file maybe i'm thinking of i don't know mind hunters is the fbi show where it's the very first days of the like criminal pathological program where they're studying criminals to try to understand why they commit the criminals and they go interview at Kemper. They had that amazing actor who plays at Kemper so perfectly. And there's like two seasons of it. And the third season was going to be BTK, the BTK killer. And they're teasing it throughout the first season or two, you have the BTK killer and they're they're teasing it throughout the first season or two you have the BTK guy you cut to him every now and then sort of struggling with You know sir
Starting point is 00:39:30 Doing weird shit I don't know tying knots or like plotting to kill women or whatever the fuck he was up to and then they they just Cancelled it and they've said there's never gonna be anymore and it sucks because that was excellent That's one of the best shows I've ever seen on Netflix. I that's that's one of the the biggest tragedies like Firefly was okay I didn't think Firefly was the most groundbreaking thing ever so You know, but mine hunters was excellent. I liked it more than you Taylor. I think you might like it Firefly yeah, I fly is a Western in space. Yes and They canceled it after one season and there's a huge fan base who's really upset about that
Starting point is 00:40:09 But they made a movie that I think is really good that kind of like Put that you know period on the end of the sentence. Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely damn to set 2002 But it's these fans are Not getting what they want. It's not coming back. But the movie, I think the movie satisfied a lot of fans. Satisfied me. Yeah, I watched the movie obviously right after the movie Serenity. You got Summer Glau in there. Summer Glau is the hot chick. She went on to play in the Terminator TV show on fox She's got this uh background of like ballet or some sort of traditional dance where she's very bendy and live And she's just super fucking sexy. She played a terminator on tv
Starting point is 00:40:55 And I I I watched that tv show in the early 90s when I was a kid Maybe when she's introduced so as not to spoil it. I really hope taylor watches it because I think i'll tell you that It's just a movie. Oh, no, no, you need to watch the TV show first. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. When she's introduced, she's sort of a big question mark, the empire, if you will, kind of messed up her head. And you, I mean, you see them four seconds of dialogue, and you'd be like, this chick's gonna messed up up hit And then you don't know like just
Starting point is 00:41:28 Where she is on different issues and what what what she's good at and that unfolds over time. It's great It's that og joss weeden writing if you like that that punchy funny Light-hearted what else has he done? Cuz I'm I don't know So joss weon was famous for having good punchy dialogue, funny, quirky stuff, and really strong female leads. He does females well. Then he got canceled. I don't know what he did.
Starting point is 00:41:59 But he liked females too much, I guess. He did something or another. Well, Joss Wheatoss Wheaton, Joss. Joss. Okay, I kept wanting to say Josh Wheaton. Joss. But it's not. Oh, well it's Joseph Will Wheaton.
Starting point is 00:42:13 No, Joseph Hill Wheaton. Will Wheaton? Hill Wheaton? Will Wheaton? I only ever knew who Will Wheaton was because of Stewie doing impressions of him on Family Guy. Yeah. I'm like, so that's, that's my take on the Star Trek world of Will Wheaton was because of Stewie doing impressions of him on Family Guy. I'm like, so that's my take
Starting point is 00:42:27 on the Star Trek world of Will Wheaton is all inference from Family Guy. And so I'm like, okay, this guy must be a loser and nobody likes him. And he's really not useful to the missions because all he does is get bullied. Like basically, in the first season or two, Gene Roddenberry was a big part of the next generation's Writing and the direction of the show early on and Rodbury was like an old dirty pervert with his mindset in the past And he had and he had some silly ideas about the show. He didn't wanted zero interpersonal conflict He didn't believe it. He thought that the Federation that we humans would have moved past it Like we just we we we disagree but we'd move past it and there wouldn't be like a retarded person
Starting point is 00:43:08 He had he had an idea for the future and it is the Star Trek universe. It's not a retarded Yeah, but you need interpersonal conflict in a TV show. You sure do and so So we got all you up with the cancer suddenly the show flourished because you had you had you had like better writers Some of the one of the best episodes, I can't remember which one, a fan wrote in, they had this contest for fans to write episodes, and it's like a fan written episode. And I love that concept.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I wish TV should, see, that's the beauty of a 22 episode season, right? You can have a fan write one of the episodes. I think they took it and they tweaked it a little. Maybe they added a different beginning or a different ending to it, but it was like 90% of fan written episode they may have hired that guy I looked into why I'm sorry I thought Wesley Crosby was a
Starting point is 00:43:51 shit he had shit head nobody he was a little kid who was a genius and he was annoying to be on the ship and he was supposed to appeal to children and so isn't even as a kid I hated that he didn't appeal to students I was the only guy that liked him I didn't understand the hate, but oh well. Josh Whedon, I looked into it. I didn't know he was canceled. So I was like, what did he do? Apparently he bullied Sarah Michelle Geller
Starting point is 00:44:14 like into wearing seductive outfits and shit on as part of her role. And by that, I guess he grabbed her so hard he left like finger indentations in her arm and stuff. And he also fucked two hot young actresses saying that these were the kind of people that didn't give him any attention when he was young and he felt like if he didn't take it take advantage it's a bad phrasing but like he didn't bang these chicks. Capitalized.
Starting point is 00:44:40 They capitalize. Yeah, that's perfect. If he didn't bang these chicks then you know he would always regret not doing what he never did before. Fair. Um, I don't like him grabbing Sarah Michelle Geller to make her dress more scantily. Was she acting badly? What, you know, so she not doing everything well in the episode, like a robot Buffy. And he had picked out an outfit that we didn't describe his grandma ish.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And he was just like, enough of this. Just wear the, you know, I'm making a mini skirt or something. Yeah. I'm in the halter top. Yeah. I mean, in fair, like if Russell Crowe had been like, I don't feel that comfortable shirtless in the arena. Can I wear this swim top?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like I'm a Mexican guy at a water park? You'd be like, no, take your fucking shirt off, idiot. But it sounds like he did a little more than that. So, yeah, I'm just learning. I just don't know. I maybe it's because I liked his work that I'm like making excuses that maybe don't fit. But I'm like, what was the attitude of the young actresses? If they were like, dude, do you believe I'm sleeping
Starting point is 00:45:49 with Josh Wheaton? This is so amazing that I don't see the harm. If they feel like this is essential to continued employment or something like that, then it's awful. Yeah. So I don't know. It's not the Buffy bot. I'm trying to find exactly that outfit.
Starting point is 00:46:02 It looks like it's just- I looked for it. She's in like a leather coat and something. Yeah, it's a leather coat over a dress. Like, look, I'm not to find exactly that outfit. It looks like it looked for it. She's in like a leather coat and so. Yeah, it's a leather coat over us dress like like I look. I'm not going to disbelieve. I guess Sir Michelle Geller, cause why would you make that shit up?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh no, I'm sorry. Just to be clear, this is Josh Whedon telling on himself like, oh, well then I don't give a shit. Then he just told his own story poorly. Yeah. And Michelle Trachtenberg, who I believe was in
Starting point is 00:46:28 Inspector Gadget Inspector Gadget You stop I'll tell you who's actually in it and the movie that Michelle Trachtenberg's actually in It's actually in Euro trip the one from inspector gadget is Fucking pretty McBrune. Yeah. Nope. It's Michelle Trachtenberg. Just looked it up It's not Michelle Trachtenberg is an inspector gadget 1999 starring Don Adams Matthew Broderick and Andy Hayward. I loved it I I'm thinking of the Steve Carell, Inspector Gadget. I watched this one as a kid. I thought it was great. That was a solid movie. I haven't been watching. I need to actually catch up on a couple of those creeps. Yep. Yeah. I remember. That's
Starting point is 00:47:18 the only thing I remember from her from Buffy. Yeah. Yeah. She was real young. I've been watching the creep stuff, but I'm too behind now. So I need to catch up on that tonight. The TV, the episodes, the series. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen the movies, but I'll watch that. And then something else I've been watching on YouTube is it's like a survivor thing. Barstool Sports does this like survival, like survivor mimic show, except they're all in their office and it's all mostly employees and like former athletes that now work there. And two of the spitting chiclets guys that hockey podcast I like, Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonette were on it, like as competitors.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And I'm sure that there's a huge, Woody's the survivor expert. So I'm sure there's like a huge gap in the quality of people in, in like athletic endeavors on a given team. And you have to pick certain people to compete in certain activities and in the right orders perhaps. And I saw one of their events was like standing on a pillar with those like foam, those heavy foam things that you're meant to duke it out and fuck people up with. And it's, it's hilarious because there's never been in a survivor, a bigger difference between some of the people on these teams and then guys who like type blogs for a living. And so like one of the fights was like Paul Bisson at former NHL enforcer, like
Starting point is 00:48:42 they were, you know, hiding who they were going to send up there. And then one team, they're like, all right, first pick, we're sending Biz up there. Like, obviously he's been in literally thousands of fistfights. And then the other guy who got put up there was just kind of a big fit guy who works and like writes things. And he Biz immediately concussed him immediately. He's like, he was like doing the interview
Starting point is 00:49:05 afterward and he's like, yeah, I saw everybody else out there was trying to do that thing where you hold it here and then you bring up the big swing for a big hit, you know, but I'm a fighter, you know, and so I knew he was going to expect that. So first thing I did is I popped him with the right hand, sets me up for the big in like slow motion. You can see the guy's head like he's in a car accident like, ugh, ugh, just like, and they're interviewing him. And he's like, it's the hardest I've ever been hit in my life. Like I'm spinning, I'm seeing double.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I can't even function. And then afterward, like that guy had to go get checked out for a concussion and they had like, they were doing like the normal cameras for conversation. And it was like Paul Bissonnette, Ryan Whitney, Will Compton, who was a former NHL or NFL running, or not running back, linebacker, and then Taylor Luan, who I guess is a six foot eight former offensive lineman.
Starting point is 00:49:56 That guy's been killing all the physical challenges, wouldn't you know it? And someone came up to him and was like, hey, we think Francis is concussed. He's like almost falling asleep asleep thinks he's gonna vomit. And all three of the all four of the professional athletes are like, Oh, get fucking real. Are you serious? Oh, I popped him a little too hard. Oh, fuck off. He's not concussed. He's okay.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yes, you know, get up and dust yourself off. But it's like, no, it was funny seeing like the professional athletes have a conversation of like, this guy says he's fucking concussed from a foam thing. And then it splices in how ruthless biz was with that. It was like, they work at the same company. He hit him so fucking hard with this foam thing. It's interesting because I was put myself in that situation and I was like, I'd like to think I wouldn't get concussed by biz in this event, but I I
Starting point is 00:50:48 Would the worst possible scenario the best possible scenario is that he just knocks me off gently Like I probably would get concussed, but these guys probably have so many concussions. They just fall off at some point Do you know what the national bird of the United States is? The is it this is a trick question, isn't it? Right? I'm gonna ask you can't you want me to I'm here has to be bald eagle. No turkey. No, no, no, no. Ben Franklin wanted it to be the turkey. It is a noble bird. The turkey is and Ben Franklin did vouch for it. Is it not the bald eagle? Am I wrong? No, it is not
Starting point is 00:51:22 the bald eagle. I don't know what the national bird in united states is jaylee do you know what the national dog is i didn't i just make that up the the interesting thing is there's this guy i can't remember his name it is a bald eagle you son of a bitch we both got it right it is no it's not okay just hear me out here. There's this guy who is clearly autistic and he has a mass, he loves eagles.
Starting point is 00:51:50 He loves the bald eagle. And since he was a kid in the fucking 70s, he's been collecting everything that was eagle related and had an eagle on it. He did a little research, did a little research, looked at the paperwork, never ratified it, never passed it into law. We just say the bald eagle is the national bird. Well, we never actually wrote that shit down and made it official.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Like here in Georgia, it's the brown thrasher. That's why the hockey team was named that. We wrote that shit down, it's in a book somewhere. Well, the Republicans to the rescue, all right? Unanimously passed the Senate. I think it, not unanimously, 100%, is that what you call it when it's 100 to zero? Like whatever that is, passed the Senate, made it through the Senate, I think it not unanimously 100% one. Is that what you call it was 100 to zero? Like, whatever that is, fast Senate made it through the House. And I'm hoping that it
Starting point is 00:52:29 gets to be Donald Trump, who finally makes the bald eagle, the national bird of the United States of America. I don't like that. Because it's almost like we're admitting a mistake. Like, we're writing it wrong. Write it out. Like everybody knows it's the bald eagle. It's I can't think of anything less important. I'm trying. Oh, really? Well, have you heard of the postal service? Yes. Yes. You watch the joy covers years and say like you're talking to no one. You didn't see this. Oh, I saw the gift, but I didn't like look into it.
Starting point is 00:53:01 What I know what I've, what do you think about handling all of our mail from now on? Why don't we just let Amazon handle the mail? Are we against Amazon handling all of our fucking mail? I mean, work great for them when they just, you know, privatized everything and gave it to the oligarchs. I can't see what would go wrong. It is funny like I'll see stuff. The oil industry, like we won't give them the oil industry.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Oh, I already did that shit. Wait, I maybe something smaller look like the man probably we probably gonna do the mail What is he gonna have we're checking it our mail? Who gets any oh, I know why you Elimination of the post office Why even acts to grind with the post office? Yeah, you hate the bottom here I think you got a lot of people over there with their thumbs up their asses worried about a bunch of shit. It's none of their fucking business. Now that is true.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Every time I have to snip something, there's five people in the back talking and there's one person working. The postal service has been losing money for generations and yet they have plenty of time back there to just lull around and sniff fucking packages. I can't think of anything less worthy. OK, so I hope they all get fired. I hope that Amazon handles our mail from now on. I trust Amazon.
Starting point is 00:54:09 All right. They send me all sorts of dildos. They don't say a word. I saw some like German service delivers packages more cheaply than any of the private companies. Yeah, they operate out of money doing it. And we're funding them and they're losing that money. Let's take that tax burden off the taxpayer and let's let the people who are actually mailing things
Starting point is 00:54:29 pay per item to Jeff Bezos, who seems like a hell of a guy. Hell of a guy. I wonder what side Bezos is on. What's the thing about Jeff Bezos you dislike the most? He's richer than me. The cyber- Okay, let's eliminate envy me. The, the, the, okay. Let's eliminate envy and jealousy and just think about what we know about Jeff Bezos.
Starting point is 00:54:49 A lot of the cyber Monday deals are like fake. Same as black Friday. That's not on him. Okay. The whole everybody that's how far I had to stretch to dislike Jeff Bezos. I love his retail. I love him. Like, like, and my favorite pedo from Twitch.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That's that's a knock against him. Did he ban Dr. Dis's a knock against him. Did he ban Dr. Disrespect? Yeah. Yeah, and you love the doc. We all know that. That's on the record that Woody loves Dr. Disrespect. It seems like we should probably have a better post office, but we can make it better without
Starting point is 00:55:19 getting rid of the whole thing. All I'm saying is don't belittle the American Eagle, okay? Let's make sure that he's protected, that he's officially our Eagle, okay? Even though he's basically a buzzard with a good PR team, let's be chill about it. No, don't even say that. They're predators. Oh, please.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Have you, they, Zach, how much percentage? They eat a little bit of carrion when they're peckish, but they are predators. All right, let's figure that out. What percentage of a bald eagle's diet do you think is carrion? Zach, we're gonna need some numbers here? I don't know. Go to I'm gonna say that the majority of a bald eagle's diet is carrying. In fact, I'm gonna say that upwards of 70% of it
Starting point is 00:55:56 is that you've looked this up. No, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say 25. I'm gonna say a quarter of it. The diet consists primarily of fish. See, Woody's always got those liberal ass sources. You know how he is with that shit. He had wind farms. I don't trust Woody's sources. No, I trust it.
Starting point is 00:56:16 It's just Google's AI, it's just the top of the thing. Well, we actually can't trust that, that's ridiculous. We have to find better. Okay, you're right. And the American Eagle Foundation, does that work for you? Yeah, that sounds good. Fish comprise 70 to 90% of the diet of bald eagles. Yeah, and they're definitely not eating
Starting point is 00:56:34 like dead fish on the shore all day. Like they're snagging them. I'm just, all right, so maybe I'm wrong here, but I was basing that on all those videos I see from Alaska where there's like 50 bald eagles just eating roadkill on the ground Like they seem like a problem bird more than anything. They're like a nuisance bird up there really There's like, you know that one guy who gets mobbed by raccoons and he feeds him hot dogs on his porch Yeah, it's like that but fucking bald eagles and their assholes
Starting point is 00:56:59 So there's isn't that hilarious like that either huge protected shits that the internet has made it So that all of us know about the raccoon guy who feeds Raccoons bits of hot talk on his back. I can picture it I can close my eyes and see the whole scene this wooden porch the light banister. I hope he lives forever I hope he lives forever. What a cool guy. Yeah, that guy's sick He seems like you're actually the one ripping on bald eagles. I'm saying they're predators. You're saying they're bums I I'm saying they'd be predators if it weren't for mankind, but I felt like they were mostly like living off of us
Starting point is 00:57:29 these days. Hope Taylor. Have you heard of the outdoor boys YouTube channel? Yeah, I love that guy. He's great. That guy's good. He is so like, all right, Kyle, this guy is in Alaska. He makes a camping video every week, but it's cold. And I get exhausted watching how hard he works. All these Alaska campers, I watched a couple of them now, they carry a lot of gear and they drag it with a sled. And when they go uphill, they kind of have a longer rope. So they get themselves up hill,
Starting point is 00:58:03 then they pull the sled up afterwards. And this the snow will be like six foot deep. And he's walking with snowshoes sinking like 18 inches or so. But every so often he sinks like to his nipples and has to work his way out again. He's like 12 miles deep into the woods and he needs to work. What a ankle. He's like 12 miles deep into the woods and he needs to work. What if he takes his ankle? There's a train in Alaska
Starting point is 00:58:28 that doesn't seem to fucking go anywhere. And you just hop on this train and tell the train to stop here. So that's what he does. He takes the train into the woods and then he gets off the train and it leaves them behind and there's no civilization like within a dozen miles or so. Okay. And then, uh, you know, I, I've seen him like the snow is like
Starting point is 00:58:51 nine feet deep. He's like, I'm going to try a hot tent. Well, apparently you can't put a hot tent on top of the snow, which made sense after I processed it for a while, but I'm like, there's a lot of work. And then he digs this circle all the way. It's maybe exaggerated nine feet. Maybe it's six to seven feet deep And then he digs this circle all the way. It's maybe I exaggerated with nine feet. Maybe it's six to seven feet deep. I've seen that video. Yeah, it's deep. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:59:09 It's taller than him and he seems like a tall guy. Yeah. And he digs all the way down. Then he realizes that the circle that he dug, the cylinder you could say, isn't quite large enough in diameter. So he has to widen it for his tent. And then he's collecting all this wood.
Starting point is 00:59:23 This guy's working like deep into nightfall and the tent is so hot in there. he's trying to find it for his tent and uh then he's collecting all this wood. This guy's working like deep into nightfall and the tent is so hot in there and even though there's a blizzard outside and it's snowing and then the next video, no tent, no tent. Now,
Starting point is 00:59:37 we just camping in the wild with no tent and uh he, I don't know how he survives all these things. He gets home and his wife is like, you're okay. On one hand, he's enormously competent. So the odds are he's going to make it home. On the other hand, I watch a few YouTube channels where people basically risk their lives for content, like the motorcycle guys, you go 120 miles an hour through Appalachian curvy roads. And Appalachian curvy roads, by the way, lots and lots of roadkill,
Starting point is 01:00:06 which is an inconvenience for cars and deadly for motorcycles. It's bald eagles up there. Yes. They're already up like bears. So, and really the roadkill that's not dead yet, the potential roadkill is the bigger issue. And they all like die or get wildly hurt
Starting point is 01:00:22 or locked up in jail. And this guy to me seems like the innocent version of that. He will eventually have a problem he can't solve in the woods by himself. Doesn't he have a sat phone though? He hasn't talked about it, but I bet he does. I bet he does. He seems incredibly competent.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Have you seen the one Woody where he, it was one of his tentless journeys and it was like nine feet deep of snow and so what he did Kyle is he like started with a shovel and dug stairs out like 10 feet down to the ground level and like the way he would remove snow is like using his shovel to like create blocks of snow and then like individual blinds so this guy's this guy's cooking he's's cooking, he's moving fast. And he gets down these like nine feet of stairs
Starting point is 01:01:08 that he makes, and then he has to make another like nine foot slope up because as he explained it, like otherwise the wind is going to go down into my little hole instead of just going right through and up the other side. And then so he takes a cutout and he just digs like a six foot tall, like a like a six or seven foot by eight foot like dome in there. And it's like an underground igloo. And you know,
Starting point is 01:01:33 that sound that snow makes like, where it's kind of almost squeaky. And like, you would compress it. Yeah, he would like he'd be in there hunched over. He like tried to set his bed mat up, his bed roll, and it wasn't big enough. The little shelf he made. And so he's like, Oh fuck. And so then he's like shaving and he didn't say, Oh fuck. He's a Mormon. And so he's like, Oh, yeah. And so then he starts shaving down the other sides of it and he's like, yeah, this will probably hold. And then it goes, it does that like squeaky snow falling sound. And he just waits for a sec.
Starting point is 01:02:07 It was like, no, if it would have, if it was going to fall, it would have fallen right then. And so he keeps carving it out. He like, he builds his bed, uh, roll little platform. Cause he says you need to sleep higher. That keeps you warmer. And then he like made a table for himself to cook. He seems like the most confident wilderness guy because he doesn't do a lot of the Bear Grylls intentional difficulty stuff. He's like, this is what I bring and this is why I bring it.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And this is how I use it. It's like how you would actually go in the wilderness and survive is like a very small amount of stuff. This guy doesn't have like a vest with a bunch of, and this is my special knife just for dinner time. It's like, no. Small amount of stuff, but he has the right, he has these, you know, the jacket that you call a puffy, is that a term everyone uses?
Starting point is 01:02:59 He has slippers that look like they're a puffy jacket. He has pants, down pants that look like they're a puffy jacket. And this pants, down pants that look like they're a puffy jacket. And this guy dresses up like the Michelin Man or something and sleeps in that. And again, like he doesn't bring a lot of gear, but man, he has the right specialized gear. He has seemingly some durable, lightweight shovel with an extendable pole. What is the stick on a shovel called?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Like the handle? Yeah. Is it called a handle? I don't know what it means. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so that, you know, it extends. And I'm like, I bet this is some sort of lightweight, perfect for the task shovel. It's not a random shovel. It's only good for snow.
Starting point is 01:03:36 It's not that strong, but it's just what he needs. The ones where he brings his kid are crazy. It'll be like, you even seen those? Oh, I went like a few like probably one month ago I spent like five nights in a row just watching outdoor boys channel that guy rocks But sometimes he has like young boys who also love the wilderness I want to spend time with their dad obviously and so he's like In the middle like dragging a sled and he's filming the opening of a video like alright. We're
Starting point is 01:04:04 dragging a sled and he's filming the opening of a video like, all right, we're now not, should be about nine, nine point five miles out into the Alaskan wilderness. It's incredibly cold. Thankfully my moving right now is keeping me warm and it's not just me tonight. Gang. I got my four year old son, Alan here and he's like, and the son is like buried in the sled where you can just like barely see his face. And so then he's like surviving and doing all these things. And then also like doing dad stuff where he's like, all right, as soon as I,
Starting point is 01:04:32 as soon as I finished building this, you know, I guys, I, I always try to keep a positive attitude. I'm positive right now, but it is tiring after 15 mile hike in the snow and then building an underground cavern to then make dinner. And then subsequently, you know, we have to, uh, we're going to do color time with my son. We're going to, we got coloring books. And so he's like, he's holding it together. He's so tired. That guy's awesome. Good dad. I've been watching a lot of exhausted people. I watched two kids. They're 16 and 18. Do
Starting point is 01:05:04 you know what a hydrofoil is? Yep. This is like a surfboard with a wing on a stick. Yeah. And you kind of jump on it and go. Also, if the waves are headed in the right direction, you can kind of ride the waves because you're basically going downhill as the wave moves forward. These guys are like, well, no one's ever gone from, I don't know Hawaii, but like from Oahu to and it's a hundred miles and one guy's name is like Josh and the other guy's name is like Mufaka but they both sound super Hawaiian. They're young, they're 16 and 18 and then you hear them talking about their experience. He's like, well, I started surfing when I was four. I started
Starting point is 01:05:43 hydroboarding when I was like nine and he's 16 now and you're like, fuck, this guy He's like, well, I started surfing when I was four. I started hydro boarding when I was like nine and he's 16 now. And you're like, fuck, this guy's been like almost all his life doing this stuff. And they did have a chase boat, but they went a hundred miles through the open ocean on a hydro foil. They get to land on the, like halfway through the way.
Starting point is 01:06:03 How much farther is it? How much farther is it? How much farther is it? And they were so exhausted. In the Pacific. Yes. A hundred miles. How fast are you moving on those things? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I don't know. It was still daylight when they got there. So I don't think it took more than like 12 hours. You must be going quicker than I thought you'd dropped. That's insane. And they're pumping them the whole time? Like, are they putting physical exertion or is the wind blowing They're pumping them the whole time. Like, are they putting physical exertion or is the wind blowing? They were pumping the whole time on video, but I think that they
Starting point is 01:06:30 were able to ride waves a lot. There was a hurricane approaching. I rode the boat a lot. Blowing the waves in the right direction. That's what we do. Dude, we copy that video. We pump for like an hour, get shots of that, you know, from every angle, then we just get on that fucking boat, go home. I just looked so exhausting and they stopped and you'd see the boat like hand them food or like a banana or something in motion. So they'd like had a shovel that they put out there. The servers would come along, grab the banana and eat it while they're going. They're very good at what they along, grab the banana and eat it while they're going. They're very good at what they do,
Starting point is 01:07:06 but it, oh, the exhaustion, but the outdoor boys level tired. Yeah. That's a good, if you're a looper, I know you're not as into the survival content as we are Kyle, but outdoor boys is a good one. If you're- Oh, I mean now then I watch- I like, that's what I like about them too. I watch some adjacent stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I watched this guy build his, you know cabin just like almost fair-handed one time And I I watched this one guy who I think he's partially reviewing Products, but he does this car camping where he's in the car and the back of his car is tricked out to make a good place to rest but he uses These like gimmicky ass heaters that burn those little, they're like alcohol lamps or something. They're called like pure heat or something.
Starting point is 01:07:50 They're those short cylinders you light on top, not the sternos. There's something that doesn't make carbon monoxide. And he's just in his car with this gadget where it burns three of those simultaneously beneath this like PZzo pneumatic fan. It burns without making carbon monoxide. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Because of what it's burning, I suppose. And so like it's burning and it's heating up this metal infrastructure that's inside the top of the box. There's like a tray in the bottom that holds the heating elements and he slides that in. And then the top of the thing is like's like a tray in the bottom that holds the heating elements and he slides that in and then the top of the thing is like PZO pneumatic or something. So it's somehow or another through the heat, the fans move, like the fans are caused to move by the heat and then that just makes them like turn harder. And so he's just got
Starting point is 01:08:38 a heat blower over there now keeping his little uh, and he's got a carbon monoxide detector next to him. I was like, dude, you got you got a detector right and finally he like pulled one out, but he was in like Negative something temperatures. It was crazy cold outside the car. Like it was and he didn't have enough clothes I felt like to survive if he needed to of course He just start the car and turn the heater on but his whole thing is he's trying to survive out there every night I just thought those gadgets were neat I do get into the gadgetry a little bit because I've always liked gear
Starting point is 01:09:07 and just shit that does cool shit. And the sat phone would have to be number one. I need that, like get out of jail free card. I need that thing where I'm like, hey, hey, you know how I said, you know, things can go bad. Well, they did. Yep, I'm sending you a pin.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I'm incredibly cold. I've I'm sending you a pin. I'm incredibly cold. You want a lot of motorcycle camping. And there's a lot of decisions to be made with regards to like whether this equipment earns its weight and its space. Cause you have so little capacity on a motorcycle. And he brings more gear than I would have expected him to. Certainly not saying he's wrong, right?
Starting point is 01:09:44 He must know more than me for sure. But I'm like, look at that shovel and that saw he brought. This isn't some like make do with a Leatherman type thing. He's got a real saw that he cuts down trees with. No, it doesn't even fold it. It's just, he puts it in the sled. It's, you know, 16 inches long and that's all you get. I had a Gerber fold out limb saw that I used to climb trees for deer hunting and I was all it is I was like my god
Starting point is 01:10:09 These teeth are so aggressive. It's incredible like every every inch of stroke is taken like Chunks out of this. Yeah, you felt powerful, especially if you were in like softwood you were like, oh a three inch limb And it's like that's all it takes. Like that girl, I always had that thing when I was in the woods, like attached to my belt hanging because you could just, as you climbed the tree, you cut the limbs off, they were obstructing your climb and just keep going.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah, dude, it's neat. It's fun to watch him do. He's got so many water bottles and tools and I see guys set up cutting stations for the firewood. Like that's a good use of time, you know, because if you have a lot of wood to cut, don't fucking hold it. You ever watch that?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Yeah. You ever watch that buff chick who like splits wood? To buff chick that splits wood. I didn't know this was a- No, but you have my attention. Dude, I got to fight. I'll see if I can fight it in a minute. This is right there.
Starting point is 01:11:07 I prefer my women to clean windows and lingerie, but okay. Ah, like she's got, dude, you'd love this chick's gun. Oh, wait, I think I know her. I think I've seen her. I don't know her, but I have seen this. She's very strong, and she's really good at splitting wood. And it's fun to watch her fucking split wood. It's neat when they're legit,
Starting point is 01:11:26 like the legit legit people. I watch a lot of sailors and some are basically recent van lifers learning the ropes. And then I'm watching this other one. He's doing the Northern Passage. You guys familiar with that? No.
Starting point is 01:11:40 All right, so imagine you're on the West Coast of Alaska. You go around it and then across the top of Canada to Greenland. And that's where they're sailing. This is just a 45-foot sailboat, and they're dodging icebergs that are a real problem. They have a drone, so you can see that ice flows. And the guy's incredibly competent competent and he does it well.
Starting point is 01:12:05 It's fun to watch that kind of content. Yeah. Yeah. It's the real deal. Check, check this check out. I'm hoping Zach, it's a tick tock. She Canadian. I don't fucking know. She said, she said, Hey, Oh God, look at her, right That it she's got a great attitude too. She's you guys lovely She's got a great attitude too, geez now I know she has a pump on but Fucking ripped looking and bulky
Starting point is 01:12:44 Fucking sarah connor in terminator too 2 you don't know nothing about that Taylor But she got super ripped in that movie doing chin-ups. I think I seen pictures that you can exceeds her I think Yeah, she's actually doing it Yeah, it's super impressive. I get recommended her shit and and a bunch of shit like that. I get I get medieval weapon Information like guys utilizing them in real life like showing how they would be that. I get medieval weapon information, like guys utilizing them in real life, like showing how they would be used. I watched the video just last night before bed that was like analyzing the difference between Chinese and Western fortresses in like the 15th century and how like the Russian Empire at that time like took some fort over that the Ming dynasty
Starting point is 01:13:26 or whatever wanted back. And that, I guess, Europe Western powers had these soup, it almost ties into that Japanese show we were watching, but Western powers had these like really aggressive, powerful cannons that weren't seen in Asia at the time, because Asia, Western walls were like 100% stone, but in Asia they were making walls where like the outside facade was stone, but it was all like dirt and mounded in the middle. And so like they didn't know the right way to attack this Russian fort and had huge losses. It's really interesting. You know the story about Constantinople following to the giant cannon in 1453 or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:10 So this, this, this cannon maker went to like the fucking emperor of Constantinople, probably Constantine, I don't fucking know. But he's like, I got this great idea. I want to make the biggest cannons ever been built. It's outrageous. You see, I'm gonna have these bands of copper. They're going to go around the outside, like an overpressure this thing you won't even believe. He's like, well, how much did it cost? You're're out of your fucking mind I'm not giving you 20,000 Dean ours get out of here. So he goes to the Ottoman Emperor and he says yo Have you ever seen a gigantic cannon? You know what? I know you hate Constantinople people maybe you could use that you fund my can I mean this would and so that's what happened They the Ottomans funded his giant cannon and they showed back up with the giant cannon made by the guy who was turned down
Starting point is 01:14:47 and they blew the wall of Constantinople. Yeah, the Turks, the Ottomans took over, turned it into Istanbul and yeah, Constantinople. And that is why, and that is why you don't cheap out on your military industrial complex, all right? Stop being pennies. Stop that. At that point, they were deep in the decline,
Starting point is 01:15:08 the Byzantines. They weren't projecting power the way they were. Because they cheaped out on their military. Because they cheaped out on the cannon. Really, that one cannon could have been history changing. They just needed to fund that one. That's a really cool story. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'll get cheap on me. Yes, dinner time, and I got another video video for Woody because I know he likes these. Is it Space Marines? No, it's better. It's the Elder Scrolls Knight cut to... Oh, wait, wait, I know I did. I realized I just sent you the same thing. I've got it. That's the lumberjack chick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I liked it, but I just saw it. This is just a music video. Yeah. I'll check this out off stream, two and a half minutes. All right, guys.
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