Painkiller Already - PKN 541

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

PKN 541. What's up, boys? I'm doing good. I've got the milk more under control. Just too many people commenting that on my Twitter being like, you're fat enough and then an equal. But two-thirds of them are encouraging me down the road. They're like using grok and these AIs to make me into fat Santa. And it's kind of cool. They're like including jacked in it. And so I look like jacked level fat. But I I know I'm down to a pine today and

That I'm gonna you know, we'll play that forward I can recommend you to switch to cashew milk or almond milk because the calorie difference is it's like 1 third or one I don't like the taste of it as much. I'm doing Vanilla, how could you not like that? It's like melted ice cream. I just like regular whole milk. Like it's really good. I'll enjoy. Thank you.

I appreciate it. It's the Christmas season. Like I said, I have a 70 day window and then we'll get to it. 70 day window. It's not one of those Jew holidays. You don't get to like stretch this out over two months of made up like breaks and. This is my Hanukkah. This is my young Kippur holly season is five days total.

All right. You're done. Yeah. What? Seven days, I guess. Twenty fifth to the first. Whatever. I know it's Thanksgiving to New Year's. That was the holiday season. Thanksgiving is not a real fucking holiday. I hate that holiday. That's so dumb.

That's such nonsense. I don't even get it. I don't even get it. Who? But look, I get it when you when you get there and it's kind of fun We're gonna sit around and talk about what we're thankful about. We've i've done that a couple times. It's real sweet Um, but other than that, that's not why it was created. Why was it actually created? I'm so suspicious and I think I bet it was a turkey company I bet a turkey company had an abundance overabundance one year of turkeys and they were like, oh my god I bet a turkey company had an abundance, over abundance one year of turkeys and they were like, Oh my God, we're going bankrupt.

Daddy's going to blow his brains out because we've got 800,000 pounds of Turkey and no one in this country. And they were like, I got it. We're going out of business, but we have just enough money for a national consistent high frequency marketing campaign. It's perfect. Like I doubt that you don't think it was the whole pilgrim thing? Like they taught you in school? I just don't think that we would. I just don't think that little pilgrim thing.

Don't you red pill me on fucking Thanksgiving. Let me live in the matrix here. No, I don't think that little pilgrim thing from literally what 400 years ago is now still celebrated today because we actually care about the the bountiful harvest of the fall season or the camaraderie that that was found between the wampanoag indians and the pilgrims who we later massacred you know what i mean like i don't care i don't think that's it i don't like thanksgiving might be one might be my favorite holiday it's dad's holiday okay here's here's, I get all the bonuses, right? So when you get older, you don't want any presents.

There's nothing you can fucking buy me that I want. If I wanted something, I would have it already. What I want is to like enjoy time with my family. Now Christmas comes with the overhead of like buying gifts and setting shit up and whatever. Thanksgiving, I don't do anything. All I do is receive. I receive your attention.

I receive a feast. I receive, and I sit back like I'm some sort of king and enjoy the meal. They ask me what desserts I want, what meals, what would you like specialized for you, good sir? And I say, I want some key lime pie this year, some pecan pie. I'm gonna need some stuffing, some mashed potatoes,

I want turkey, and that cranberry, frickin yam thing my mom used to make. And they say, Yes, sir. And I get it all. And you know what I give in return? Not a fucking thing. That's the best holiday of the year. See, strong, because I've been giving it in every other day of the year. 364 days. I don't even know how many years now. I lost count, Kyle. I think part of the reason you're negative on Thanksgiving is you're too locked into

Turkey. My grandparents figured this out many years ago, that Turkey is like a side meat and prime rib and steak is like- I don't like those meats. Like in that, if I want to eat a steak, it's going to be a very fancy thing where we, the two of us sit down and we're like, and like, look at that marbling. It's delicious.

And we just have like, we eat like a nice little steak. But Thanksgiving to me, the meal anyway, should be a feast. And I love the idea of 20 pounds of deep fried bird on the table, cause that ain't going to run out. We're not running out of meat. And then I add so many carbs, probably 8,000 fried bird on the table. Cause that ain't going to run out. We're not running out of meat. And then I add so many carbs, probably 8,000 calories worth on the table that, but still, it's not a good hop. We could do that every other fucking day.

This meal costs a total of $140 dangerous game. Like, like, like, but you could, you could have a Thanksgiving feast every, every week if you wanted, if calories weren't the point, it's not that that it's expensive and it's incredibly cheap. It's because your whole family's there to subsidize the price of turkey but whatever it is is magical and it's positive getting a loss leader but the other stuff costs money impossible what about the turkey farmers like at some point someone's not getting well they're getting paid the turkey farmers it's the grocery store is taking a loss on turkey so that they can get a win on cranberry sauce. And whatever.

It's not. So it's the same. My turkey this year was $7. I know because I worked in consumer packaged goods for so long. Turkey and rotisserie chickens, same thing. Those are destination items and they make more money through the overall market basket of those consumers

by having that and offering it cheap because they're making a bunch of money on the cranberry sauce and the stuffing and all the other sides, the pies, the pre-made stuff. They make a boatload on anything pre-made. We all intuitively know that anyone who's buying a turkey at your grocery store is filling up that cart. Yep. Yeah. And so they're like, oh, where's it going to have a turkey? They have turkeys there. Okay. Well, I'm already here. I'm going to buy everything else. And so they can see, Oh, you know what? Consumers who purchase turkeys here at Walmart have an average market basket of $210 in that, uh, in that transaction. And we're making a lot on that. And so like the same, like

even most of the time I go and I get to, uh, the grocery store and like my plan is I just want a rotisserie chicken. I pick some other stuff up. I end up buying. I'll have a, a moho rotisserie chicken. That's four 99 delivered to my house for a total of $8 and I'm still ahead of the game. You beat the system. Not everybody. I beat the game. Oh and I do here's what I did last night. I ran out of soda and like I do drink nothing but soda. So I ordered four 24 packs of Coke Zero because it was like this crazy deal. If you spent 50 you got 15

off and then it was something else where if you buy four of a kind you get some other and I was like oh my god they're giving soda away over here. But the guy's like, they don't have the fourth soda. And I'm like, they don't give me anything. Bring me that quart of milk I ordered. Cause unlike Taylor, I only need a quarter of milk a week. So I felt bad though. He drove 12 miles with a quart of milk. Like how is he making a living doing that?

So you're drinking milk, was it some gay milk? Was it cashew milk or something? No, it was real milk for cooking. I use real milk for cooking and like, but, but if I'm going to make cereal or just drink the milk, if I get heartburn, sometimes I wake up at night, wake up at night. Sometimes we'd like heartburn and I'll just down like as much milk as I can guzzle and one guzzle. And that'll like quiet my stomach down and I'll go back to the milk work them. Do it. It does to me. I also make sense. It's basic, right? It's got to be. It's just like water and cashew juice.

I thought milk had a lot of sugar and that it was almond milk. Or I guess it depends what flavor it's cashew lower than the almond. I have is very low calories. So if it has a sweetener, which it may, it probably stevia or something. It tastes a little of vanilla. I get the vanilla flavored one. I get the cash. The cashew milk is like five or 10 calories per serving cheaper. Um, and it's just, it just goes back to trying to shave every single calorie out from that, from my cuts in the past and like getting

used to it enough that I don't want whole milk. Like I wouldn't want a glass of whole. If there was a glass of whole milk and a glass of vanilla flavored cashew milk. Oh, get that shit out of here. Taylor's gonna be so happy when he shows up later. That's true. I'll guzzle that whole milk. You can't love it. It makes cereal delicious. It makes cereal like most cereals are candy garbage.

But if you're eating like, I don't know, like bran flakes or something for a diet or something just to get the fiber and the carbs, then adding that milk all of a sudden makes it a delicious little treat. Like I remember I made my dad that Doucette's protein French toast and he was like, this is like a dessert. You eat this every day? And I'm like, I eat that three times a dessert. You eat this every day? And I'm like, I eat that three times a day. I got that, uh, that creamy thing for Christmas recommended. Yeah.

I'm going to give it a little while because it's not really the, it's too cold here to really enjoy ice cream that much. But in a couple of months I'm going to be doing protein ice cream. Should they also make, uh, I asked my grandma to get me the creamy light like the creamy mini I was like I I don't need the one that makes Quartz of ice cream. Yeah, she bought me the creamy XL like the the big it's like I bought it It's like a desktop box. This thing is so big. I'm gonna be making so much ice cream. That's nice I've got a real ice cream maker, so I'm hesitant to get the creamy.

But I do want the crispy. The crispy is this air fryer that Ninja makes where the whole base of it is see-through glass and the heating element, like cooking part, like clamps onto the top and it cooks whatever's in there. And then you remove the whole top and you have a serving tray. Is that you kind of save on the dishes. And you also don't have that, I don't know about your air fryer, but I don't clean my basket enough

and it's got all those greasy crumbs in the bottom that I know. Every time I open my air fryer, it's a walk down in relaying of all the other things. That's some Homer Simpson shit, getting all the crumbs and having the like the delicious flavors of a mother past. Pressed peanut sweepings. Old Simpsons is so fucking funny.

Just good little jokes like that sprinkled in the air fryer. Like no one, no one has gone as hard with marketing in the past 20 years as the air fryer guy who's like, Hey, we got to make a small convection oven. Who's going to buy this? And they're like air fryer, call it an air fryer. They're like, but it's a small convection oven. Call it a fucking air fryer idiot. People are going to scoop them up. They're going to feel like the food is fried.

Hmm. It's awesome. That's such a good idea. It is kind of like that. It doesn't seem like a convection oven. I don't know. I remember I got it again when I started started that diet and I wanted to, I would take my sweet potato chunks and throw them in there and just like spritz

them with, with, um with that fake oil and then dust them with my spices. God, it's so delicious. I like my air fryer. Avocado oil or any of those, like avocado, olive oil? If I'm going to do... So two different kinds of oil, right? Well, I guess there's three.

There's one that you might add for just eat raw, like on a salad or something, some sort of flavored oil But you got it like it's the smoke point right so of the smoke point oils. I usually usually use avocado oil or Yeah, usually avocado oil, or I'll just use vegetable oil because it's so cheap to like cook steaks like sear steaks or Anything where the temperatures of the oil is gonna be above 250, 350, like French fry territory, but anything below that, like if we're sauteing vegetables or maybe even fish,

I would use olive oil. Yeah, I have some avocado oil and I've made the mistake before of using olive oil when I'm supposed to be doing avocado and then it's just smoking away immediately. And that's not, Yeah, it's no good. You can, you can temper the avocado oil with the higher smoke point oil and get the flavor of the olive oil. And you can basically raise the smoke point of olive oil by adding a higher smoke point oil. You can do the same thing with butter.

Now I'm like checking the back of olive oils when I go to the grocery store because of what you told me about the the mafia tricking people and deport or exporting oil where they're like just tell them it's extra virgin and then it's like 80% canola or something. They're not caught doing that. That oil is a whore. Yeah there was a whole like scandal I guess like Dateline or somebody did an expose where they tested all the top brands of oil and like made them all look bad. Because so many of them weren't what they just fucking said they were. It's like, yeah, this is all I asked for so little.

Just tell me what's in the bottle and you couldn't do that. You know, at least they should get them. That's ridiculous. Lying to us, making us think we're getting delicious Italian or like Spanish or Greek olive oil. Meanwhile, we're being tricked by some fucking cigar smoking soprano. No, thanks. I wonder what the modern day mafia is like, because I'm sure they exist. I'm sure that the Italian mob has some presence today in New York, New Jersey, but I wonder what those guys look like, what their business looks like and what it's about. Like, is there still extortion and gambling and prostitution and drugs? Are there still like mafiosos running that sort of thing in neighborhoods?

I don't know. I know they have a lot of like sway and power apparently in Sicily and southern Italy in particular, not as much in northern Italy, but you don't hear about the Italian mafia at all in the U S anymore. I think that's they're doing though, right? They're like, Hey, maybe, maybe cut it out with the suits. Guys, we can't be walking around looking like this. We're Tommy four watches. What are you doing? You're really sure.

That's Tommy four watches. It's my thing. They don't let him watch. What the fuck is your problem, dude? You're flashing too much money. We watched Goodfellas the other night and they just have pulled off the La Tuanza heist and I don't remember how many millions they came away with. And again, it's the 70s or whatever.

So it's just multiply it by three, but they've got so much money, they're good forever. And this one scum, the idiots in the, like the raid are buying, one guy buys a pink Cadillac, and Cadillac spec thing where these big boats of cars. So he shows up in a steel pink boat to the mob bar, and De Niro's like, you take that fucking car back, you keep taking back, oh God, you got, and then the other guy shows up,

his wife has like a $50,000 mint coat on, and he sees the chewing out that the pink Cadillac guy's getting. He goes, let's get the fuck out of here. Come on, we gotta go. What are you doing? Just hide, just hide the money for a year. Why are you so open and flashy with that money? That would make no sense to me.

Speaking of money, I've been watching a squid game too, which I was under the impression. It was like a whole season of a show. It's like a, it's like a half see it's. It's frustrating the way it's paced. Uh, every single episode, I think you said, maybe you said this on the show, Kyle, I think you may have said it just in our, our chat though. Like every single episode is a cliffhanger to keep you watching. And then it just ends and there's

no more like it it's literally like ending in the middle of a season very frustrating so yeah i'm okay with it um i wish they had yeah it was not as good as the first one uh well it's not only but we don't know yet i guess i don't think it dropped in quality at all i just think that what makes me not like it as much as the first season is the first season you got a full Character arc and a full story that could have stood alone and I think they intended it to maybe I remember reading something about The creator or the actor like didn't make any money in the first time around and he's like we're gonna do this again I try to we're the number one show in the world, but I got like not a lot of cash out of it So let's just make another season and get rich as fuck.

But it felt like a well thought out, well planned thing. There's this thing about Asian filmmaking where the Asian audience or maybe the Asian filmmaker really wants to know the nitty gritty details in a movie. You know, those heist movies where Cluny is going to rob a bunch of money or some of those oceans movies. You never really get the nitty gritty. It is like, oh, yeah, we just made we scanned the We, we duplicated them. Oh, in an Asian movie, you don't just wave your hand and say we duplicated the cards. We go and like get the card and we type in the numbers and we go to the store and get the blank cards and we photocopy the pictures on them. Like they, they're so meticulous. It reminds me of Godzilla minus zero when they spent 10 minutes

explaining how the Godzilla trap worked. And it's like, let's go get it. But I don't care. And in this movie, there's a there's a couple parts like that, where they really lay out, like, he's got a special forces team, he's got all these backups. Basically, this time around, he wants to take down the people who used him like a horse. And he keeps saying that he's like, I'm not a horse. You can't bet on me. I'm going to kill you all. And he's coming for them. And he's got 45 million one from the first time around, which I thought was only like a billion. That's $45 million then. Yeah. No, I think 45 billion one was like 300 million 30.

No, it's like, it's a thousand, um, it roughly a thousand, like, so a million is a thousand dollars. So remember there was the, and early on he was like, can I, can I please borrow 10,000 Juan and nobody would make a million. And wait, maybe a million wide would become a thousand dollars. Stay quiet. It says here that 456 or no, it's 445. Is it 45.6 or 456 billion that they win? I thought that he had won 456. Cause 456 billion won is $309 million. Yeah, I thought, yeah, I think he'd won.

Maybe it's 45.6. It is 45.6 because I Googled it. Okay, so that's like 31 million US. Yeah, so he's got way enough money forever and he's using that money to fund his attack on them. He's got this system where he wants to find the man who initially recruited him, who made him play that game in the subway

and that's all he knows about him though. So he hires like dozens and dozens of people to be in the subways, every subway, every day. And just like looking for this guy, waiting on him. And I liked that. They took a lot of time explaining that plot out. But I agree with you. We got to episode seven. There are seven, you know, we finished the thing off at episode seven. And I was like, what? I told Chiz, because we were watching it simultaneously on WhatsApp I told him I was like alright that's enough for me tonight it's 4 a.m. I'm going to bed I'll finish this tomorrow and he's like that

was it and I'm like oh oh no dude it's kind of a spoiler but the plans that the main character makes are so brain dead towards the end. Like trying to fight back against the guards and conscripting like eight dudes with him. Meanwhile, you've seen groups of a hundred of these pink uniformed guys with MP5s. And then the... I don't want to give it away because I'm sure Woody will watch it, but it's just, it has some watch. You're not going to watch it. It's very good. It's the number one show in the world.

It's the first time a show has been number one on all 93 countries on Netflix. Wow. It's like, it's good. It kept my attention, but like, I don't think it's like world changing. Like I would, I guess it's no Chernobyl. That's how I felt about the first one, I guess it's no Chernobyl. That's how I felt about the first one. I thought it was good, but benefited greatly from COVID. Yeah. 100%. Just like Tiger King.

Tiger King never would have been the thing if everyone wasn't bored of shit. I so disagree with both of those counts. I tried to rewatch Tiger King and agreed with Taylor. It's just not that good. I rewatched both of those after the pandemic. I watched season one of Squid game last week in preparation for You know season two coming out this week and loved every second of it my girlfriend I was showing it to her for the first time and and Tiger King to me is still one of those like I

Think of it as a top-tier fucking Drama docu-series, whatever you call those things. Because it was just. That guy had gay sex slaves on a tiger farm, like, you know what I mean? Like, like, like several of them died. One of the like one person lose every episode, something happens. And you can be like that. I've never seen that in an episode of television.

A trans person lost their hand this time. And rather than have their boss look bad, they said, take the whole hand. I wish the footage wasn't burned. I feel like Tiger King was ruined in the fire. The story's enough for me. And I felt like, just, I can't think of his name now, the main guy, the Tiger King himself,

whatever his name is, it escapes me. He carried the show for me so much, but then every now and then they'd be like, they'd opened the door to one of those other crazy men who kept, Joe Exotic was the main guy. Yeah, they'd show you like Doc Ellis or whatever that fellow's name was who had the hot women and the elephants.

And I was like, oh my God, this world's so much bigger than I thought it was. I don't know, I love Tiger King too. To me, I've watched it with my dad all the way through and I watched it with a girlfriend or two all the way through and then I watched it by myself. And I just like seeing people's reactions when each of those crazy moments happen.

When you first find out that Carol Baskin's probably killed her husband, it's like, wait, what? What are we watching? Just wait, next episode somebody dies. It's like, wait, a new person? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's gonna be a mauling after that. There's a couple of maulings on screen. It's rough. Were you taken out of squid game when basically for, for Woody's benefit and this one they have or no, then the first one they had that voting process also, right? Yeah. Yeah. And where they can after every game, it's like, all right, everybody, you got to vote if everybody's going to quit and split whatever is in the piggy bank or if everybody

keeps going. And they're like on the absolute cusp. They need like one or no, they actually, there was a riot in the bathroom following a tie vote. And they're like, we're going to have the vote tomorrow morning. And the team that didn't want to continue, which the main character is on is ahead by one vote. And the guy's plan is like, okay, they're going to come and assault us and kill us in the middle of the night. And our plan, our group of like eight guys who are the most capable here in defending people in the furtherance of ending this game and saving lives our plan is to hide under the bed and allow the the circle team who now has gone from a one number

deficit to a 10 number advantage to maul massacre and murder every single elderly person and woman on the other on our team and then, we are going to attack and take the guns from the guards. And it's like, this doesn't make any sense. None of this makes sense. It took me out of it because it was such a bad plan. Like you said, if we basically if we make it through the night with our current numbers, we'll win the vote in the morning and we'll all go home, not just go home, but I'll go home with around $350,000. And that covers some of these people's life debts and it keeps everybody afloat for a while, except for the guy who owes 10 billion. But obviously the other team is going to try to murder us in the night and fix that number problem. But lucky us, we know it's coming.

We could attack them first. They'd never expect that. But they hide under the bed and let their women and old people get massacred on their team because they can't risk being injured or killed in the scuffle because their ultimate goal is to take down the whole organization, which just seems like a bridge too far because it says they seem like there's 30 bad guys and we've got like five good guys and only one of our good guys has ever operated a machine gun before and that's just not good odds for us. Yeah and it just didn't make sense there was no winning proposition for them at any point and they're like under the bed watching as

people are stabbed to death with forks being like hold and it's like what the fuck are you doing here, dude? It's like, all right, I have a big design to undermine the CIA. Step one, be captured by the CIA. It's like, okay, that doesn't make sense. All right, now that's not fair. I don't want to spoil the whole show. I mean, we spoiled a bunch of stuff, but he had a good plan when he initially went after the island with the tracking system and his team and all that stuff

And I highly recommend the show I think it's gonna be good There's gonna be more of it next year or in a few months and it'll there was one plot point that what we just talked About that I didn't like but otherwise shows gold, you know, it's it's seven. I think each episode is an hour at least It's seven hours of great content and one silly decision where you're like, what's that about? But it was a totally undermining decision. Well, they are. Yeah, I don't like that decision. I don't like it just for the, even if it had worked, even if it had worked, I don't like leaving our old women and young women. I don't like leaving the old women and the old people to

be massacred by the scumbags. I'd rather go out fighting the scumbags. I'd rather just like attack the scumbags before they attack us and kill as many of them as we can and be like anybody else wants to die. Come up step up step over the line. We're not going to sleep tonight because that's the other thing. We're not going to sleep tonight. We could stay up for a night for $50,000 in our lives. Right? Yeah, we'll play games. Oh, fuck. We have to play jacks tomorrow. lives, right? We'll play games. Oh, fuck. We have to play Jax tomorrow. Calm down. And then also, so much of the early episodes was artificially carried through that, through almost like the Seinfeld misinformation or miscommunication thing, where there were many instances where the main character could have said, like, guys, this is way more complicated than you think.

Even though we have teams now, the way it transitions is the team you think you have now, we're gonna have to kill each other at some point. So we need to be much more thorough in our analysis of what's going on. You guys don't get it. But he'd be like, I've done this game before. And they'd be like, you lie.

And then he's like brooding. And it's like, this guy's a fucking loser. Like, I hope he doesn't get killed playing Jack's. You know what? Like I agree with all that, but I'm, I think that it's, I think that we're seeing it like that because in a Western movie they would make our main character. Smooth. He'd be able to, he wouldn't be like, like cowed in that moment. He would be brave, but the main character in this Asian show,

God, he was such a scumbag loser piece of Howard fucking like like name, name and just make only like two years ago. He was the worst person you can imagine. He hasn't arisen to night and shining Armour could be like, stand back, everyone. I've done this before. He does his best like he does best. There was a I had a cow by the group. They're all getting outing it down. I had a laugh out loud moment early in the show where that dude who like, like bothers people on the

subway to conscript people and is like, Oh, you look like you're having a tough time. Play this game with me and I slap you and give you money." And then they start doing that in the subway. They find this guy and finally they get two men on him. They battle him. The tall guy wins, obviously. And then ties the other guys up, kills one of them, has some sort of ninja training. And then the main character gets with them finally and they're sitting across the table and The crazy guy is like with a revolver and they're playing Russian roulette And he's like it can only be six shot before we one of us die. Yeah, they don't sound like that Yeah, they kind of there's a third mode on Netflix so you can make them sound like that Yeah, that's me. I was I'm moonlighting for Netflix.

Do you want the Taylor dub? Yeah. Oh, so all of the games and but they sitting there, they have this revolver and the main character is like, I'll play your game. But you just have to know that you're a bitch for the people who are in charge of you and the insane guys like, I would love to play this game with you. And so they like are going back and forth, playing Russian roulette and. Miss, miss, miss, miss, miss. And then the final shot goes back to the guy who has the gun, who has already established in an entire previous season that he has no qualms hell, even a lot of enjoyment killing people

and manipulating rules like for fun seemingly. And the main character is like, so now it is your turn to pull final trigger. So will you follow rules of game or will you admit that you are a baby bitch for your master? And the guy is like, aha, kills himself. And I thought that was hard core. Nothing to gain at all. I like that. I like that's absurd. It's not absurd.

It's that guy was there to play a death game. That guy is all about this death game. Did you, he just had told that horrific story about killing his own father. This is not a stable man who plays by our rules. Yeah. He's a total narcissist. He wouldn't kill himself. No, he would. The rules of the game, his whole life is the game. It's gamified. He's following those rules. Even right before that he told the other characters like you could just point the gun at me and pull the

trigger twice real quick. Right. Cause we know he did that. That shots the bull or the next one is, which is what they did in a Deer hunter De Niro did that shit. It's hardcore. You ever seen that? I haven't seen that. Heard it too. Dude, they're in fucking Nam and the gooks have them and this pit underneath they're like party shit They're like in the river up to their up to their tits in leech water they like starving and the gooks are above them in this little like I Don't know. It's like where they play poker and like they're hanging out. They're up there drinking and having poker and they're like piss on them down in the hole.

And ha ha ha, American, American, ha ha ha. And then every now and then they drag two of them up and make them play Russian roulette. And the guys are down there like plotting how we're going to get out of this fucking hole. And they look like shit. They haven't eaten. They're all dying. And he's like, we're going to play the game the game We're gonna change the rules up a little bit and basically he tells the Vietnamese guys like no no no Three bullets and I everybody's like, oh Because they're gambling on this shit, you know, they're gambling and the idea three bullets is like fucking crazy So what they do is like they pull the trigger

They actually play the game because they need this thing to get, they need to know that it's a live gun. They can't be snapping at people because everybody's got guns pointed at them, making them play. So they play rush roulette until they know the gun's hot. And then they fucking start taking goops out left and right, grabbing AKs away from people and shooting them in the face. It's a great scene. Sounds pretty sick. Yeah. The rest of the movie is incredibly depressing though. It's just that one scene. I would watch it on YouTube It's then it's a 10-minute watch instead of a three-hour watch and you won't feel bad Just too many I guess captured soldiers being no Well, that's a short part of the movie the point of the movie is what the war did to De Niro How it ruined him like De Niro has lost his mind and lost his way and he's never going to be found again

Yeah, it's a sad movie. All right, I'll steer clear of that. Yeah, I was, I started watching because I had to get Netflix again to watch Squid Game. And so like, I know Netflix is not the service for me because I was like, I was signing up again. And then it has this giant page at the end where it's like, select three things you enjoy. I was like struggling. I'm like, oh, Seinfeld, squid game, I guess. I'm getting it to watch that. It seems like a cultural thing.

And then I was like, all right, Vikings. That show was kind of neat for a while. I literally thought when I started Vikings, I was working on some stuff and I sat in the background playing today. And I thought that was the Ootred of Beppenburg show and that's We were having the conversation about this earlier. I was like, I can't believe Taylor has seen Vikings

I thought he was one of those that will never watch it for me. Let me just say this Vikings is a gem of a show the main guy in that Ragnar Lothbrok Yeah, he's cool like he's the first Viking to find England basically. His uppers, his betters are like, England doesn't exist. The land across the sea is fake. Don't you go there. You work for me. You raid for me. And he's like, we're going looking for England boys. And he finds it and comes back with Christians that he's enslaved. He's like, these are fucking Christians. You ever seen one of them before? He's like slapping this guy in the head.

And they're like, no. With like actual good looking loot. Yeah, like gold and like crucifixes made of, like bejeweled crucifixes and shit. But now he's made the boss look bad. So the, you know, it's a whole thing. But it's a generational story. You get to meet his wives and his children

and he keeps going back to England and the English kings have this ongoing thing where you get to see like what their inner workings are like and it's great. Vikings is better than the last kingdom. It's a really, really good show. It was made by History Channel. It was made by History Channel,

which makes you think, oh yeah, whatever great programming has the History Channel created. But I think they just funded it and they hired people who knew what they were doing to make a really good TV show. There's like five or six seasons, the first three or four very good. The first three or four very good and but the way that they make the characters age as it goes on. And there's like a couple of jumps forward of maybe 10 years. And so your original cast ages

out a little bit towards the later seasons. And so your original cast ages out a little bit towards the later seasons and I don't love that, but it's a great show. And it's full of like hardcore hero moments where people are like pretending they can't be killed to scare the other army. Like the guy rides out and they thought he was dead and they're like shoot an arrow in his chest

and he just takes it and pulls his sword out and they shoot another arrow in his chest And he like starts waving the sword to his men and like all of a sudden the overwhelmingly large enemy Hurting him. He's dying. He's he was dead when he put his armor on almost like he had he tells us he's been poisoned He's it's his last day of life. It's my understanding that that does not make you better at taking arrows It makes you worse. Yeah, he's taking he's taking him cuz he's got to he's taking because he has to take him He like handling you see the blood like bloods running down his like lips, but they can't see it Like he's dying in this moment but he's pretending like he's not dying and so and the enemy can't see cuz their arrow range and

But they just see that the dude they thought was already dead because of what happened yesterday Rode out on his horse with his armor. We just shot him four times and he just yelled charge So they all run they all run and get massacred because they it's like a like, you know, it's that's that's that's a great scene The only thing I don't like about the combat I've seen so far and I'm almost positive I've seen season at least season one of Vikings but I was clearly like a background show not paying that much attention and this applies to a lot of different like medieval dark age style battles where one side will like put their shields up and then the other side will shoot arrows and then they block most of the

arrows with their shields and then the arrow shooting side is like, all right, charge in, we did our one volley of arrows. And then like, then they go get butt fucked. It's like, like the guys, you have so many arrows, keep shooting. You've got those like British U stronger than any projectile the Vikings had ever seen, stronger than any projectile could move at any point

or anywhere on the planet at that point. Like it would have blasted those shields. Would have went through long enough to fuck them up and they just didn't do it. I bet a sling can throw a rock or lead ball fast within an arrow. Oh, I'd be close, I wonder. I don't know.

As far as mass though, cause like the mass of those arrows would have caused some problems. They were heavy. I feel like the slings you're thinking of, maybe they use modern materials. No, that's a thing shot. Maybe, but I'm talking about the spin around it. I saw a guy do it with a sling on YouTube the other day and he did the spin, but then

he did a full body spin kind of the way that a javelin thrower does, but he did it. Um, yeah, like, like, like he did like a spin while he was spinning with his hand and like got it all to Work together and created even more speed. God. He threw that rock fucking fast. Those was it. Yeah He was hitting a target with oh heck. Okay. Yeah, those they throw lead balls I don't they probably threw rocks back in the day because that's the you know That's a bit story right of David killing Goli. And at first you're like a slingshot. You're like, nah, that was like a lethal fucking weapon. Like, like you kill it. You kill a wolf with a sling.

That's why even in the Bible story, they're like David had to go to a river bed and find like the right kind of stone. Cause you can't just throw any rock in there. It needs to be a very smooth, like worn down stone to fly right. I like that story. Taylor, you're the closest to a subject matter expert. If a golfer really focused and tried to do happy Gilmore style driving, couldn't it be faster?

Because I feel like a pitcher running might be a little faster, like cricket. Like cricket. Yeah. Someone I've talked to who knows more about golf than me has told me that for maybe the three of us, someone who doesn't know what we're doing enough on the golf course, we might be able to get higher velocity through a bit of luck

and happenstance if we tried the happy Gilmore. But for a Tiger Woods kind of guy who's got everything totally dialed in, all the right muscles are tense at the right time, they can, or like a John Daly, like they can just cream it the regular way. What if Tiger had spent his life training to be Adam Sandler?

They did a test to get your answer, and here it is. The answer is yes, it's a better swing. You just need to be able to perform it. More power. Oh. That's interesting. Well, I guess a big part of actually playing golf is consistency.

They have to value that higher. And so like, but yeah, I guess if you were just trying to smash it, John Daly, like getting a running start. If I gave you a hundred tries to hit it as far as you could, that might be the technique. Yeah. I was doing a golf lesson when I was like 10,

and there was this kid about my age who tried the Happy Gilmore swing, shattered, like broke the head off his club because he hit too early, immediately started spazzing. Oh, my dad's gonna kill me. And it's like, what do you think is gonna happen? You fucking idiot, we're 10. You just got a brand new driver, you're Happy Gilmore-ing it. Oh, I saw this, what do you think was gonna happen you fucking idiot we're 10 you just got a brand new driver you're happy gilmoreing it oh I saw this

what do you call it exhibition of like the the human body's blood vessels is like all the blood vessels and I was like well they'll probably remove the dick though no no there it is it's right there it's nothing but a giant blood vessel hanging up it's like that doesn't make it like scientific or censored at all like that's just a dick. It's just a bunch of veins. And then you see that like a penis and a vagina are just nothing but blood vessels. Like our bodies think that's where the blood needs to go.

Yeah, this is a this is moving. This little YouTube shorts. It's dancing on too many subjects. He's like, this is all the blood vessels. Check out this spider. That's what my recommendations are like. You can have a taste of my life. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's crazy. I love, dude, I, I watch too many YouTube shorts. I, I, I, I do feel, it's like snack food where I'm like, yeah, but it's popcorn. It's not nachos like TikTok. like snack food where I'm like, yeah, but it's popcorn. It's not nachos like TikTok. You know what I've noticed?

I can't prove it, but YouTube seems to know which videos I contemplated. And I swear, like there'll be like a new YouTuber with attractive thumbnail and I'll be like, huh. Maybe I hover over it. I don't know what clues I'm giving it. Do I watch the preview? You can mouse over and get a preview.

And then like, it'll keep feeding that one to me I don't know what clues I'm giving it. Do I watch the preview? You know, you can mouse over and get a preview and And then like it'll keep feeding that one to me until I give it and I'm like man, it's like the data they collect It's kind of scary. Oh look Every now and then I'll go a little mentally ill Sure, I start thinking like you all do man. Maybe no this shit is real, you know, maybe this is all just about me Maybe I'm just the main character in like one of those like VR programs or something. And an arcade or something.

It could be anything. Well, yeah, you're supposed to think it's about you. We all are in my game. That's how my game works. Okay. Because I'll be sitting there on the couch and I'll be on my phone and I will think about like, oh yeah, I remember learning about punt guns. Punt guns are those giant shotguns that they would

have on boats that were technically two and four gauges and they would shoot a pound of shot at a time at huge flocks of ducks which used to exist before the introduction of the punt gun and I'll have that little thought inside my own head in the next video will be punt gun watch me shoot an 1867 punt gun and I'll have that little thought inside my own head and the next video will be punt gun watch me shoot an 1867 punt gun and I'm like how the fuck did that get on the screen I was in here and I didn't like I've genuinely had that happen where I was just thinking about something and it was just there and I and it'd be an obscure thing it's not like I thought about like Seinfeld and then there was a Seinfeld thing. Yeah, that's pretty you. Have you ever like been watching a movie and an actor pops up and you're like, oh, I want

to know who Jason and I want to know how what else Jason Alexander has been in or whatever burning and like you search Jason and then it auto completes with Alexander and it's like this guy isn't even in the top five, most Googled or searched Jason's. How did my computer know I was gonna look up Jason Alexander? Is it listening to Seinfeld? Like, I don't think that's the case, but like that's, it's just weird every time that happens.

It's following, it has to be, cause I'll Google like, what does the great shield do? And they explain it in the Elden Ring. I didn't even mention Elden Ring, it knew. Yeah. And I can't imagine great shield isn't a term used more widely. For sure. Yeah. It's definitely listening because like there was that. It's more than listening. Like you can like talk. Did you see that? Like there's a video like and there were a lot of these back in the day where people would be like I don't own a cat but my husband and I are Discussing cat food choices with our phones

Oh, I not off but like, you know screen off just sitting on the counter and we do this You know, we did this for a couple days and now both of us are getting cat food Advertisements even though we don't have a cat and we're just talking about cat food near our phones Here's how insecure phones are. Let me ask you this. If your significant other embezzled $50,000 of cash from their work and wanted to have a conversation about it, would you leave the phones in the room?

No. You'd take them to the other side of the house and like think about whether like any of the re-Wi-Fi connected devices under a pillow a pillow or you were about to and even if you were going to tell her look you got to get this back to them you got to find a way you got to slide it under the door even if you're going to say that you're like i wouldn't want to say that around an electronic device of any kind of any kind like like not a speaking spell not a vape like like i'm serious like i don't trust anything it just like technology's got to the point where it's so easily manipulatable.

I don't think there really is any privacy at all. And just, you know, just know that. I don't think they're listening. I think it's incredibly computational expensive to do text to speech. And 99% of your text to speech, like what they get from your conversations would not lead to selling products.

It's just, it's not a good way to get data, especially when you're taking it in with all the time. If you buy a vacuum from China, like that thing's listening in on you and like key and connecting to the internet and sending data. What's it sending? What? Swiffer's are betrayal. Not Swiffer literally, but like a Swiffer style, like, like, you know, electric back tech, like, like I just bought just bought I got a good I think sick, dude The dogs are terrified but that thing cleans them

My floors are cleaner than they've ever been because it gave me a mop daily I get mops daily this little robot goes as does anything. It's so nice. It cleans itself It has a tank of water. It rinses itself Refills itself goes back at it, rinses and repeats literally, and just does it until the whole downstairs is mopped, swept, and vacuumed. You don't find it too noisy?

I can't hear it upstairs. If I'm in the same room with it, I'll turn the TV up a couple notches, but it's not like overly loud. It's not like when your mom would vacuum and you'd be like, all right, let's just go outside. It's not that. Even a Roomba, I don't want to be there with it like when it's running This one and it do carpet and hardwood. Yes, it does everything this one

It was really expensive and one of the selling points was it was very quiet I went on reddit and whenever I'm trying to make a purchase now I type read it and then my question and then I found you find some autistic dude who got it Who got it to Roomba science and he's like, well, I spent $12,000 on Roomba's today. Here's what I found Like he tests every every one of the best Sweepers and vacuum robots on the market or whatever and then has comparisons. It's like that's that's gold Jerry gold just like or whatever and then has comparisons. It's like that's that's gold, Jerry gold. Just like garage gym reviews. Whenever I buy anything related to fitness, you've got to go to that garage gym review guy because you know that he's going to have, even if I'm going to buy a jump box to like

do a biometrics or whatever you call it when you're just jumping on stuff. I'm like, well, I bet he narrowed it down to like which one was the best and has like a five star jump box. narrowed it down to like which one was the best and has like a five-star jump box Garage gym reviews is the best YouTube channel for fitness Products that exist. Yeah, so guys he does these top ten lists he on his website He'll do like he'll he'll link you to deals like he'll aggregate deals for you from all of the big Manufacturers, so if suddenly Titan is selling has plates on sale He'll let you know he has codes that you can use there. Even if you're going to just buy some weight shoes,

I'll go use his code because I'm shit. It's 10, $10, $15 off these weight shoes. I wanted. It's a great resource. Have you bought anything recently or either of you? Not regionally. No, I've got everything I need. I've filled my space pretty much. If you like garage gym reviews and I also do, he's very good. Do you know Glucks Jim? I don't. You might if you saw him. I bet there's a video. G-L-U-C-K.

That was the question. And he also does a good job. So I think you'd like his content. I've never seen him before. But if he does something similar, I would like it. I don't know. I like when people, I like getting product reviews

where they don't mind bashing a product. Like, look at this. Can I jump in? He goes out of his way to prove how not purchased he is. Like, he buys it himself, he uses it for a little while, and like, he just doesn't seem like he's advertising for somebody. My favorite part of Garage Gym Review Guy

is his collection of barbells. Yes, oh my gosh. He gets it disturbed. After a while, you have to start thinking, all right, how much weight? How much more does his home weigh than mine? Because he has weights hanging from his. You know what I mean?

Like at some point, he's got 20,000 pounds of weights hanging on the side of his house. I honestly think it's more hurricane proof. Like that's the 20,000 pounds of weight hanging on the side of his house. I honestly think it's more hurricane proof. That's the heavier, older construction living at the beach is like, it'll keep your house held down and steady. Can you imagine if a tornado hit his house? It would send that shit flying like shrapnel. You think those barbells are going to get picked up by a tornado?

They throw cars. Yeah, but I don think those barbells are going to get picked up by a tornado maybe? They throw cars. Yeah, but I don't think barbells are structured. They would just be harder to pick up for the wind. Yeah, but he's got them connected to that pegboard back there. That's going to take that whole board and use it to like, like flick that thing of bars across the county. That is not his collection, by the way,

that I'm flipping out about. He has hundreds. Like, this is like, that's, that's what he has on hand for day to day. He has in the back left corner, you might see tons of them still in their wraps and stuff. He has hundreds.

This may even be an older space of his, cause he's changed spaces a few times. I don't share his preference in barbells. You can still learn something by hearing what he has to say, but man, he likes that knurling, like just fucking replace the knurling with razor blades so he gets a better grip. And my-

Does he use gloves? Not, don't think so. I'm not sure though. I'm not sure I have to answer. But I don't like him that, I don't like knurling that aggressive. I don't need it. As a matter of fact, my knurling is like filled with chalk.

A lot of people might not like my bars, but that's become my preference I like knurling but I wear gloves. I always wear those lifting gloves. I've got I've got soft lady hands Look at those look at those Look at that. No calcis. Look at that soft smooth. All right, which one of these do you want going into your vagina? Huh? into your vagina. Huh? Yeah. All five. All five. All right. One of you was supposed to pull up with your caveman hands and like, like for comparison. No, you made me self-conscious. You don't even want to touch yourself with. I wouldn't touch myself with your hand. My God.

You didn't fuss. I couldn't. There'd be no way for you. There'd be no way for you to close your eyes and pretend it wasn't me. You'd be like, ah, it's scratchy. Yeah, but yeah, I always wear my gloves. So I don't mind a good bit of knurling, but he's overboard with it. He wants those things to be dangerous. I get calluses on like this part of my palm from like, because I do like really high rep dips.

And I think I need to make my, I need to add like more tape to the handles or something. Cause it's just hard. Like sometimes I'll be finishing a set of dips and be like, I feel like my chest and tries could keep going, but like my hands really hurt. Like this, this is probably probably not ideal but it's just gonna make me tougher over time that's why i switched to push-ups on my knuckles my wrists

were the weakness i use those handles where they're the best that's yeah i bought these like uh these like thick wooden handles that have that flat part on the bottom obviously because i'd had the thin like plastic ones before and after just like a month or two of using those you just destroy that little film of Foam that's over the top of it. And then you're just pushing on a hard piece of plastic, which is unpleasant the wood one is the way to go the The the hierarchy in my opinion goes handles knuckles and then palms. That's the worst When I'm doing push-ups with my I'll like feel like this isn't right. Like this is putting a lot of strain in there.

Like if you go high volume with it, it just doesn't feel good. It feels like I'm putting maybe tension in an area that would be better served if I was, you know, a neutral grip. Do you do a lot of pushups like calisthenics stuff? Yeah, yeah. If I like mixing pushups in throughout the day like like whenever I'm waiting on something to happen I will do push-ups. So Coffee's making let's do some push-ups like like toasters cooking. Let's do some push-ups like waiting on you to call me back

All right, how long is this gonna take? Well, let's say one two Anything and like cranking those out throughout the day on you to call me back. All right, how long is this gonna take? Well, let's see, one, two, anything. And cranking those out throughout the day lets you get a ton of volume in because it's not like you're gonna get hypertrophy from pushups unless it's a pushup workout that you're doing multiple positions and tons of volume. So I just kinda like mixing them in like that.

And I find if you do that for a week, a second week, you're so much stronger. Like notice, okay, I used to do 10 while I made my coffee, now I do 12. That's a huge amount of difference in what I'm capable of doing. If I were a machine that suddenly could do 20% more work, I'd be, oh, have we, what have we done here?

We gotta start selling these. But I just did it to my body while I made coffee. So that's what I do with pushups. I would never do pushups at the gym though, like as part of yeah that well you're you're Off gym mode. Aren't you like you do? Yeah, I'm not doing Um, like barely working out right now, but definitely off of public gym I have a power tower that I put uh up in my living room for now and it only weighs like 85 pounds So I just pick it up and move it. What if I have company over into my, my out of the way in my sunroom corner. And so like,

just throughout the day, I'm just doing pull-ups and dips all the time. And I really think that's helped me like today. I was busy. I didn't have time to go like downstairs and do a full real workout. And so I'm like, all right, in between these things, I'm just going to do just sets of pull ups, sets of dips. And I keep track on a little notepad. I did a hundred pull ups and a hundred dips today. Just like, that's fantastic. When you space them out like that over the day, you get it, you treat it kind of like, and like, I don't know anything about sports science or how this like plugs into that, whether it's more effective or less effective. I don't know. I guess like the way our bodies were actually going to work, it would be doing that workout throughout the day of like hard labors and things. You wouldn't have this little focused thing for

one hour and then nothing else the rest of the day. I don't know if that matters, but it's basically the rest of the day does let you do a hundred. It's a lot. So I used to do pull upsups on live streams and I do like a hundred in like six or eight hours And that was a lot to me like I was there that's a ton So Taylor doing a hundred like I know what that is and it's a ton Yeah I mean pull-ups and dips are not push-ups like you're fucking working if you're doing dips and pull-ups slowly and intentionally and not like Your body weights a big thing when my body weight got its lowest

I found that those those workouts suddenly became too easy and I genuinely mean that like not in a braggadoge's way but but in a way to sort of put it into perspective when you see someone doing dips and pull-ups who has it was a very low body fat percentage or they just don't weigh very much, don't be that impressed. Because when I was 169 pounds, but benching a whale well over 300 pounds, you better believe that I can climb a ladder without using my feet, like a tall ladder. Like you better believe I can climb a rope,

I can climb a pegboard, I can climb with my fingers. I could do stuff that's silly, because suddenly I'm not pulling very much weight, and I'm incredibly strong. Yeah. Like pull-ups and dips suddenly are like, I would pull to get myself down in the dip faster. You know what I mean?

Like I can almost do this and do dips. Like when you're 169 pounds, it's just not- My best, I could add weights to dips, but whenever I did pull- ups, it was just a little gateway to injury. So yeah, I saw someone online, like a, their body's the resume, as you say. And like he was saying, like, unless you can do like 15 pull ups, like, and the way he was demonstrating them, like these were not like banging them out, pull ups, they were like, And the way he was demonstrating them, these were not banging them out pull-ups. They were

unbelievably slow and deliberate, strict. And he's like, do not add any weight unless you can do what I've just done, which is slow lowering, slow increasing, chin all the way up. And I was like, that checks out. And then he also liked the same thing for dips. And I was like, all right, well, unlike pull-ups, I can do that with dips all day. Like dips are my exercise. I love dip. And so I'll throw weight onto that. Like my elbows don't hurt at all,

but I'm worried that dips, especially weighted dips, I'm putting a lot of wear and tear on those elbows that they normally wouldn't get, but it is a great exercise. Taylor, I'd like to see video of your dips and not to judge it in a negative way, but I want to great exercise. Yeah. I'd like to see video of your dips and, and not to judge in a negative way, but I want to compare your width and form to my own. Cause I suspect you do them right.

You're doing a ton of them. You're not getting hurt. Show me the answer key. I want to look at your test. All this, all this is like first. Like, like, um, in my experience, dip machines have like basically two widths. The bar can flick out wide or flick in narrow. And it just seems like our human bodies

are in so many different sizes that can't be good. Like there's no way any of us are at the right width. So there's only two possible. Mine is not like that. It's the side of a squat rack and it hooks on to the side. And then the bar that would like protect you from a failed squat has many holes in it. So like you could go from way too wide for any of us. Brian Shaw width to too small for any of us. Okay. I know exactly what you're talking about.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like it because it takes very little space in a gym and it's super useful. Like it's so hardy. Like any of us could use it. My gym had a really good- Pull this up, Zach. This is just what I have. And I had to get there. I got this because my previous dip bar had been so overused for the past like seven years that it was like bowing outward

and I needed something more closer. So this is like a, in the world of the power towers, this is a little heavier, a little sturdier, and the handles are a little further apart Which is better for people if their shoulders are wider You don't want something too narrow putting your your elbow in like a weird impinged state. And so I just Bang them out on this all day All right, I like what you've got there a tongue, but I think we both agree that what I've linked here is

Oh yours is the best Because this is an assistable, this machine assist you. So if you're getting in shape and you're, if you're buying your first fucking dip machine, chances are you can't do a dip, right? It's true. Odds are if you're buying a machine for the first time, you can't do either of those exercises

and you throw plates on that one and it says, oh, you can't, well, let me help you. Let me give you a little boost. And it boosts you until you can. Or, and it's great for girls especially, to be able to do a hypertrophy pull-up style workout. If you're on a budget and, or I was really space constraint was my big thing.

You could throw a resistance band across the two of them. And then I put my knees on it and that would help me do dips. Cause it would, it's an assistant span at that point, lifting me back up because my knees are in a rubber band and probably all our listeners can do dips. They can build into body weight dips with that. Yeah. They make pull ups sometimes. Like I don't have the fancy assisted thing that Kyle does,

but sometimes I'll feel like, all right, I'm clearly burned out on regular pull ups, but like I can, I can eat some more out here if I loop one of those bands over it and then just step into it. And then, you know, just see how far I can go. Or the other side. I'm sorry, Kyle, you're waiting. No, you're good. You can sometimes I'll hip into a bad form pull-up with a slow negative. And that'll give me that last one or two. Yeah. At the gym, they had a really nice assisted pull up and dip machine and it had like plate wrap, it had plates inside of it, like a rack of plates.

So you could be, you say, all right, give me 20 pounds of help and you could be cranking those out and like, and you could barely get that last one out and you could quickly pull the pen out and give me 25 and then go back. And like, give me 30. And you could do these drop sets

of pull-ups and dips that would just I don't know there's no other way to do that I don't think. I also have the bands I had some bands that connected to it and then they your foot went into a loop in the bottom but I was always I don't know I didn't like the pull that it gave me. It's something about it felt like it was more pull at the bottom and less pull at the top of the rep or something and I was also it is Slip off my foot and like either rip my cock off or just slap me in the nose You gotta wear you gotta wear shoes number one You gotta be having some grippy shoes to step on it

and then I found with those that if you're like extra deliberate in the pull-up if you're using a band to keep your chest like More far forward than you'd be able to in a normal pull-up it like Kind of over corrects that a bit and at least for me the only time I like get Worried is if I like get a weird Pain in my shoulders when I'm doing pull-ups and if that happens I like like I cash out for the day for the most part unless it's just a one bad rep thing But that really doesn't happen to me. That's where I get hurt. You get it. Yeah.

It's the muscle that makes your wrist go like that. And I guess it's I think it's a form problem. Like if I'm struggling, I'll do this a little bit to help me get up. And that's how I hurt myself. Do you do you guys do full wraps or do you do like suicide grip pull ups? Like the I just use these four fingers. It's probably wrong. I don't know. No, no, I do better when I just do like a hook grip. That's all I do. I never wrap my fingers around the other way. I'm doing this.

You sometimes I also use those gloves though. So that's got to help. Sometimes I grab with the The pad of my hand but it folds over and makes a callus So when that becomes problematic I grab with my fingers But I think that's rougher on my elbow and I yeah, I don't have a perfect so they make gloves that have a cup there I think I want them. I think I have them in the I don't want that take for me. I want because if I'm not like at least activating that I'm them in the gym. Catch yourself in. I don't want that though. They didn't take from me. I want, because if I'm not like at least activating that, I'm not getting the forearm work. I guess not.

I mean, you're- Gymnasts use them too. Like if they do the giant swings on the horizontal bar, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. And they have a hook built into their grip so that they're not relying on finger strength. You could probably, they go, those guys can fly probably using those hooks just torn around the bars But anyway, we have the hangout very shortly. We should probably wrap it. Yeah, I have to get dinner in okay pkn 541