Painkiller Already - PKN 547

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BK and 547 big number boys, but I'm walking by that's okay Kyle is that a commemorative McDonald's cup you were showing god damn right it is. Let me see we got here see that we got When all sorts of Not 1999 as that would depict Probably like six months ago or something like that They did a promotion and And I was like, I would like commemorative glass and I ordered whatever you had to order. It's plastic. Really a real bomber. Real bomber. Look,
Starting point is 00:00:33 they were glass back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Well, does it have any of the old discontinued McDonald's Playhouse characters? Is that that's what was McDonald's Playhouse? Right? No, no, no, no. Grimace isn't on their hamburger. None of them are there. I think Hambler Burglar might be racist in our modern world. I don't know if he the hamburger.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah, is that their stealing burgers? Black guy. Come on. The ham. No, black hamburger. It is addressed as no, the hamburger is a guy dressed in jail clothes because he loves thievery so much he didn't even change out when he escaped. Just right back to it. Grimace is the guy who's purple. None of them are black.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Right? I don't know what color the Hamburglar is. His distinctive feature to me was the mask he wore. Yeah. Does he have like ginger hair sticking out? Because I just assumed. Hamburglar? No. Yeah. Hamburglar's ginger.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah, they did that on purpose. Do you think you think they had a black character at jail attire and they're like, hmm, a little on the nose? What's the furthest thing from a black person? Ah, a ginger. I didn't know it was ginger either. Yeah, they don't you don't see much of them. I saw something on Twitter like a week or two ago
Starting point is 00:01:48 that McDonald's is bringing back like an old character called Uncle O'Grimacy. Oh, okay. Now, I was relying on your expertise here, Woody, because this guy was discontinued before both, I believe before myself and Kyle were born. He's a shamrock colored grimace who shows up only when it's time for the shamrock shake.
Starting point is 00:02:14 And he's grimaces. Yeah, I Googled his picture. I'm like, all right, I know this guy. He's seasonal. So there was no excitement for you though when you saw uncle O'Grammysee was back in town as a child. No, no. I've never been excited about those shakes.
Starting point is 00:02:33 McDonald's milkshakes are not very good. Do they have any dairy in them? I heard they're made from potatoes. I've seen people online like do that shit where they're like, I bought a McDonald's shake and I left it out for two days. Why isn't it melting? Like, it's just, it's just sludge. Yeah, it comes in a bag, I think,
Starting point is 00:02:53 like a bag of sludge that they just refrigerate. What's always interested me is the McFlurry spoon machine, how the McFlurry is the tool, like the mixer on the machine. Whoever came up with that, that's the kind of engineering that I dig. So it's like, I'm sure someone else had a much more complicated, they had like a mixer there and he's like, yeah, and then you put the spoon. He's like, no, no, no. What if the spoon is the mixer?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Everyone's heads explode. Is that why the spoons all square? Yeah. It attaches to the machine using that square port. So they made it like idiot proof and those morons can't keep it running. I've also seen when they take them apart, sometimes there's maggots consuming, like, like in the lines, like feeding on the rotting, like, you know, inner workings of the machine. Really disgusting stuff. I don't I don't order ice cream from fast food restaurants.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I can't trust that. Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't get dessert from any fast food places. I try to avoid fast food more often than not because I know I'm gonna like get there. And even if I have the plan of like, just something light right now, I'm gonna be overcome by a feeling of like,
Starting point is 00:04:01 well, you're already ruining your day. Like just ham it up. Like why get two double cheeseburgers get four? Not really. I'm kidding. I wouldn't get four double cheeseburgers. That's, you know, maybe two double cheeseburgers, some nuggets, some value fries, just like the light makes like something like half an hour before dinner.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Now, when I, if I, if I'm actually on a diet and I'm going hard and the pain on it, I go to Wendy's and get grilled chicken sandwiches and I throw the bread out and eat the chicken with my hands like a savage in the car. Yeah, I've been dieting and it just gets so fucking boring. I have to like try and get myself excited about like borderline zero calorie fruit foods
Starting point is 00:04:45 like I've been eating a bunch of baby cucumbers because I found out that was like The the most amount of food you can get in your body late at night for filling with zero calories other than like popcorn I've heard celery has negative calories that like it takes your body more calories to break it down than it does They can't I've heard that that like it takes your body more calories to break it down than it does, that it gains from them. I've heard that. But like celery, it doesn't taste as good as like cucumber. Celery tastes awful. I remember I was going to harden the pain on a diet
Starting point is 00:05:14 and I really wanted chips and salsa. So my genius mind was like, you know what you need? Celery and salsa. I'll cheat the system. Dip celery in the salsa like it was blue cheese or something. What a miss. That was terrible. They won't stick. Chips and salsa is one of the things is one of the things like craze and milk or something. This is not a good job. Oh, there's a reason people don't do this. Okay. Yeah, I love chips and salsa as a snack and there's no
Starting point is 00:05:43 way to make it work. It almost works as a diet food because salsa is very low calorie. Like, like, you're like, Oh my God, I'm halfway there. I just got to find that right chip, but it doesn't exist. There's nothing. There's no, there's no chip that exists. That's low enough calorie. I was eating those rice, rice chips.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's like compressed rice shavings of shit. They're better than nothing, but you know, even rice cakes. I thought rice cakes were like a rumor about food. No, man, they're like 60 calories a pop, you know, you get two of those and it's not nothing. Yeah. They're meant to be a meal. Like that's what you're supposed to take two rice. The rice cakes are supposed to replace like your bagel or your, or like whatever your, you know, we're
Starting point is 00:06:26 smearing cream cheese and peanut butter on it's supposed to replace that. But even then, like you said, it's 60 calories or so. I remember going down that rabbit hole of like learning about the macros and the calorie densities of foods and looking for like Taylor said, the food that you could not wait not wake up hungry at night. To me, it was that sugar-free Jell-O. It's no calories, maybe five calories.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And you could just, dude, I'd slurp down five of them at a time. I'd stand at the refrigerator. Give me another. I did that when you recommended it to me, but after like three nights in a row of like the next day, my living room looking like the aftermath of like a five year old's birthday party. It's just so, so many of them. It wasn't worth it. So far I've figured out popcorn, air popped popcorn and these cucumbers.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And those are the lowest calorie options. And I've been eating a shit ton of Greek yogurt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Greek yogurt, you get 0% Greek yogurt. I get Oikos triple zero vanilla. Yeah. And then I'll like put blackberries in it or something. That's your new, so also get one that's like unflavored and that's your new sour cream. And you'll get so used to that being sour cream that you don't ever want neat old sour. It completely replaces sour cream in a way that like for the rest of your life, uh, in the same way that powdered peanut butter can do that for peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Do the Greek yogurt, like the note, nonfat Greek yogurt, the macros are like, like they're astounding. I couldn't, I'd never like leaned into Greek yogurt hard because I'd only gotten like the unflavored plain kind. And it's not bad. It's just nothing. I will, I'll never crave that. I'll never be like, ooh, some plain Greek yogurt. But then I found that Oikos triple zero with the stevia in like vanilla flavor. And it's genuinely good. Like I apparently I can put it in my creamy
Starting point is 00:08:16 and like add a couple other things and make ice cream out of it. It's fantastic. A whole- If you're going hard on a cut, have you considered a semi-glutite of some sort? What's that? He's talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Like Ozempic is an example. Oh, no, no. I'll just continue to cut calories. Like I'm on the downtrend. My clothes are fit and looser. I'm seeing more muscle definition before I shower. So I just need to go to the bathroom. Well, I don't doubt that it's working.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I just don't think it's pleasant, right? You could just honestly not crave food. That's true. But like, when I say that I am taking advantage of the low calorie foods, like I mean, my air popper is one of those where it's got a bowl on top, and then you pop it and then you invert the whole mechanism after it's done. And it's like fills the bowl. And so I'm eating like, like 280 calories of 300 calories of popcorn with nothing on it. And
Starting point is 00:09:03 that's like a giant bowl. And when I'm having these cucumbers late at night, like last night I had five of them, five of these mini cucumbers. And that amounts to like 75 calories. And I'm like halfway like through my fourth cucumber. And I'm like, this is a lot of fucking food. Like this is good.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And then when you're down to like, when you're down to like 1900 in when you're down like 1900 calories a day or something like that all of a sudden the amount of potatoes or rice in each of your meals is so small like physically like the mass of it is so little that it's upsetting so I started replacing the rice or the potatoes with popcorn and so I'd have like like my chicken and my vegetables and a huge bowl of popcorn. I'm like, this is so much better than eight spoonfuls of rice that I'm just gonna nom nom nom nom nom and it's gone. And I had this theory that mixing the jello with the popcorn created some sort of gooey ball inside me. And it does fill you up a little more. I've
Starting point is 00:10:02 ditched rice entirely after realizing that like it just it does not fill up a little more. I've ditched rice entirely after realizing that like, it just, it does not fill me up for more than 10 minutes. Like I've been leaning on like a big, yeah, for people who are trying to eat a bunch, it makes sense for like a bodybuilder, but like I still eat most days, like a big russet potato with dinner because it just, maybe it's psychological,
Starting point is 00:10:23 but it's just the mass of a big potato. It's like, yeah, I'm getting full. I have a half a baked potato on almost every meal. I put nothing on it. It's literally like an apple. And I find it to be the most satiating. Like I don't know how to measure satiation, but satiation per calorie baked potatoes
Starting point is 00:10:41 and you're the top for me. Yeah, totally agree. It blows the pants off of especially white rice. Brown rice, I guess, because it has fiber, it fills you up a little more for a little longer, but even then it's not lasting long. You can do like baked potatoes and chili on a diet that are really good for you.
Starting point is 00:10:56 If you just do a baked potato and use your Greek yogurt, and I don't know if you've ever gotten the 0% fat cheese, it looks, it's like plastic. It's like, yeah, it's like it's it's shredded cheese. And the shreds are like plat plat. It's like, oh, that's it's Ben's. It doesn't break like you put like you can take regular cheese and smear it between two fingers, you know, like you like rub it into your shirt
Starting point is 00:11:19 and make it turn it into a stain. This stuff, it's like, I think I I could melt it but I'd need my lighter. Yeah zero fat cheese I'm not gonna fuck with that. I mean you know this calories got to come from somewhere and I want some cheese on there. Cheese is a big no-no though it is just fat I think it's just dairy fat. Tastes so good. Yeah dude I've had to like at the grocery store the past two times. I've went I've like gone I've picked up a thing of baby bell cheeses had it in my cart and then like got to the Greek yogurt section and been like
Starting point is 00:11:53 Go put the baby bells back you fat piece of shit. What's a baby belt? It's those those bags of cheese that are covered in wax and you peel them open and you just munch them They're like red. Individually wrapped giant chunks of mozzarella cheese that are 180 calories a piece. No, no, the light baby bells are 50 calories a piece and six grams of protein each. Oh, well now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We can just live on those now. Well, I've learned you can't. You can attach that bag. You can attach that bag they come into your belt like a medieval time. Your satchel of cheese as you go about your day. Dude, I love those cheeses, but I've been putting them back every time and I'm not buying a lick of cheese. I'm like, dude, if you're going to have a dairy product, you don't need whole milk and you don't need cheese. Just wolf down a bunch of Greek yogurt.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Last night I ate a quart of Greek yogurt for 500 calories, 90 grams of protein. Like I was- A lot of Greek yogurt. It was, but I also like, I hadn't had any protein powder that day. So I need to get my macros. I would make this like a, like Suzuki with the with the with the Greek yogurt and then I would dip sweet potato chips that I would make in my air fryer in it and that was pretty good too. But again, I'm not eating those as snacks. I'm like replacing my whole side at dinner
Starting point is 00:13:15 with those calories to try to not go insane. I've been using you as an example because I remember you text when you're in the middle of your fitness journey, where you were like sending us pictures of just the most miserable Guantanamo Bay meals I could imagine, where it was just a bowl of like egg whites and ground beef. And you're like, it's not flavorful, but Derek will be mad if I don't eat it. And so I'm not even doing egg whites. Like I'm putting the whole egg in there and whatnot. Oh, see. Like, I need some kind of fat. That's most of the fat I'm getting at this point is eggs.
Starting point is 00:13:50 So I use egg beaters, 100%. I don't even use the real egg. I think they're called beaters. And it's that carton of liquid egg, but I don't even use those. I use like the Publix brand, which is like cheaper. And they, and I don't know, that shit's good, man. I can't. I would put that in that Frank that Greg New set French toast. It's perfect
Starting point is 00:14:12 for that. I think that's why I originally bought it. But then after a while, it's like, this is just liquid protein, isn't it? So you can kind of add it into any meal and like fried right, you can do your own kind of like fried rice. That's not fried rice. Did you don't realize how much the yolk is doing for the egg until you remove it? And it's like, Oh, this is dude. The yolk is so necessary. No, I haven't had an egg yolk in years. I don't need the fucking halfway. I want to talk about this because like, I just started thinking that this is what eggs are egg, the egg whites.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And I've had, that's what my omelet is, omelet with some mushrooms or something, it's pretty standard breakfast for me. And then every once in a while, we don't have egg whites and we make an omelet with eggs. And I'm like, whoa. Don't tell me. I'm like a North Korean who just went to another country. Like I did not aware, I was not aware.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You're over there turning the light on and off. Dude, it's so much better with the yolk. And it blows the pants off of egg whites. I'll never go to egg whites. I'll just eat a smaller amount of total eggs and keep track of the calories. They're just too good. And it's not bad for you.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Like as long as you're not eating like a crazy amount of them. Eggs are my number one example of like dietary advice changing throughout the course of my lifetime. Eggs have gone from a flat out health food to the cholesterol heart attack food back to a pretty good food. And I don't even know where they stand today. Everything's good for you in moderation, especially eggs with the fatty acids. But the, the reason I'm using the liquid egg goo, it's because, well, it's because I'm taking that egg yolk calorie that you're
Starting point is 00:15:56 enjoying and egg yolks. And I'm taking that and shifting it somewhere else that I would prefer those calories to be. It's like, ah, I'd rather have those hundred calories be over here in carbohydrate form, you know, or I'd rather have it over here in like snack form. I can have my zero sugar pudding pack once a week or whatever snack I have. Instead of those egg yolks, do you know how much of that, uh, like low calorie maple syrup you could have about a bottle? Like literally, I bet about. Is it 140 calories in a bottle of that stuff? Like, yeah. Oh, it's a calories for either.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It might be five calories for two tablespoons. It's great. It's just, it's just sweetened goo. It's too good to be true. Don't ever start thinking about like, what makes this goo? Because it ain't syrup. Oh no. Don't think like that. Just keep putting it on your food and keep eating it. It's gooey because it ain't syrup. Oh no. Don't think like that. Just keep putting it on your food and keep eating it. It's delicious and there's no calories in it. It must be stevia and plastic or something that your body can't consume.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I don't know what, do you know what, do you guys know that bubble gum was often just plastic, plastic and sugar? I've heard that, yeah. Oh, getting new, yeah. Which is kind of scary. But I mean, we're eating plastic all the time. Yeah. It'd be good for us.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Okay. Anyway. I hope it's not plastic chewing gum. I didn't know that. You never heard that? Let me fact check myself. That sounds terrible for you. Like what are we even worried about straws for
Starting point is 00:17:20 if we have children chewing wads of this stuff all day? Isn't it like a rubbery plastic? Yes, most chewing gum is made from plastic. The plastic ingredients in chewing gum are petroleum-braced and don't break down naturally. Okay, folks, then I don't want to hear a goddamn one more word about a microplastic the rest of my life until all gum is banned. Well, you start with gum and then you come for the straws and the packaging. You start with the people who literally literally the children's product that lets them
Starting point is 00:17:47 chew wads of it that comes in packs of 30. All right. For a dollar. Start with that before you come from my fucking hamburger meat wrapped in a thin layer of this shit. I am not a gum chewer. Are you guys, do you ever chew gum? If I'm in a great cut, it's part of the process. It's, it's, it's, uh, not only is it keeping me helping with the hunger a little bit and give me something to do with my mouth,
Starting point is 00:18:07 but it's also, I know this is stupid, it's an exercise. And so I'm chewing and burning calories. And I'm like, these count, these count. These count. When I was a teenager. I'm not even kidding. I had something wrong with my TMJ. That's the jaw, the joint right here.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Taylor, do you happen to know what the TM stands for? No. It's tough. It's not an everyday word that you'd hear. Anyway, TMJ, the J is the joint and it's in your jaw, right by that, like whatever, the joint. And I couldn't open my mouth all the way without using my fingers.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And then when I did use, oh boy, temporomandibular joint. Nailed it. Perfect, yeah. Something close to that. So anyway, yeah, so I would like, I had a weird grip I'd do. I'd like reach around and pull my jaw down and forward, and then I could eat bigger things like sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And there was a surgical option to fix it but I read that the outcomes were not very good and even my old surgeon like wasn't that excited about it and I just removed all the big chewing things from my life. On a daily basis I had sandwiches on like a roll, changed that to bread. Things like steak and chewing gum, chewing gum from my life. And I'm fine now. I haven't had an issue in decades and I just avoid the sorts of things that cause it. So there's gum.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Something where like you had to, like once you pulled it down and activated it, you were good for the whole meal and then it would like retighten? I was good until I think I put my teeth all the way against each other again. So like I could chew well in either big mode or small mode, but I couldn't have the whole range of motion
Starting point is 00:19:49 without resetting my jaw. What a pain in the ass. Yeah, so if I had like, like imagine the end of a hoagie, we almost can't eat it with the pretty closed mouth. I'd have to pull it open and then eat it large, but I'd never bite all the way down because now I have to reset it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 If we could give people that, it'd be better than those MPEG. Not great table manners either. You can do what Kanye did. Pardon me. Yeah. I gotta unhinge. Yeah. You can do what Kanye did that time,
Starting point is 00:20:17 you know, have a terrible car accident, have to have your jaw wired shut and then go on that liquid diet. Did he lose a bunch of weight doing that? Yeah, I love that song when he's like through the wire. You know that one, right? No, no. Somebody what is it?
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's like doesn't sound good. He wanted the breakfast just past the scissors. He's he's rapping the whole song with his jaw wired shut and he's rapping about getting his jaw broken and going to the hospital and then thinking he might die and how now like he want i can't remember the exact lyrics but like he wants a steak or something but he's like past the insurer he's drinking because he's drinking like fucking shakes and stuff living on that um that's a really good song through the wire he just blew up on twitter right like my chat like have you seen Kanye's tweets? And I'm like, I haven't seen anybody's tweets.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Kanye, like he went on Twitter. He tweeted a bunch of like Jew stuff again, Nazi stuff. And I'm not even overlapping. Yeah, I'll only define some, but then he basically, he went on Twitter, tweeted a bunch of Jew and Nazi stuff, and then tweeted an enormous amount of pornography videos. And then, and then deactivated his account. He was like, as Sonny would put it in and out, like a demon's whisper went in,
Starting point is 00:21:36 went bananas for like two days and then just shut his account down. He was saying all sorts of racist shit. He was like, after he'd been on like a crazy Jewish thing, he was like, I got three Jews at work for me and they still work for me. Ching, ching, ching. And then like the next tweet would come three minutes later and it'd be like, fuck you honky.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And the next tweet would just be like, Hitler was the best. Yeah, he'd be like, I like Hitler. Also all white people are racist. He changed his site to only sell one thing and it's his Nazi shirt. It's his swastika shirt for 20 bucks. And then I think the people who serve his website
Starting point is 00:22:15 took it down. And so like now he doesn't have a website, I think. And he did have, which number one, you shut that down. Now you've just made the Kanye swastika shirt a collector's item number two like one of his tweets the the funniest one I saw and I didn't see him all he said fat bitches are sex offenders I see them and I'm sexually offended making lingerie for fat bitches is like giving knives to little kids they gonna hurt somebody if you find yourself in a fat bitch pussy just remember it's because you broke
Starting point is 00:22:49 He's a high-level poster you can't And then other ones like let's see here's some These things are like bitches. You have to keep your bitches in check He says there's a sweet Jewish named Jill with the best taste that lives in New York spending love, sending love to you from me and my wife. I am speaking on behalf of my wife since I have dominion over her, which is quite different than the dynamic I've seen at every Shabbat I've been to. And then Jewish wives wear the pants and apparently they wear the greasy ass jerry curls too. Jewish wives run over their husbands.
Starting point is 00:23:22 What does the Torah have to say about that? The Jewish wives are the true kings of their household. Jews are arrogant and think they can speak to anyone they want any kind of way. That's why every Jewish wife is a bitch. He's mad about Jewish wives. He's trying to hit him where it hurts. He's trying to emasculate the Jew
Starting point is 00:23:43 in his household where he dwells. And then just poppin' in with fat hate also. And then just a lit, like, a huge amount of porn he was posting. Like full videos of fucking on his timeline. And then just closed his account. He's like, I'm good for now. Any exes in the feed by chance?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Any exes in the feed. Let's see. Yeah, little Kim Kardashian. Oh no, they were like literally porn videos with like porn stars in it and be like, he's like, I love this shit. You haven't heard about it, Jim? And so it was literally just like he went to Pornhub and put videos from there and was like,
Starting point is 00:24:23 yeah, I like seeing a bitch suck dick. And it's like, man, I found a little common ground with you. I saw so many of those. It was like over the course of six hours and you know, the political compass square, right? There were like 20 examples in every, every quarter of, of, of porn, uh, like yelling about Jews, selling a swastika shirt. Well, Taylor. It's me and white people.
Starting point is 00:24:51 All white people are racist. Taylor, I know you've wanted to avoid this topic because it's very traumatic to you personally, but the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl and it was bad. It was real bad. I won my money. Uh, as I predicted, the Eagles came out on top. They beat the shit out of the, the, the chiefs. It was, it was genuinely embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I don't remember what the score was at halftime, but it might've been 24 to zero. I think it was 24 to zero app. Yeah. They didn't even score until rookies were making your generational quarterback talent look bad. I think your front lines got a couple of Georgia boys in it like two or three at least like defensive tackles or defensive ends that were from UGA that they picked up like three or four years ago from one of our championship teams. Those guys are huge and I don't know much about football but
Starting point is 00:25:39 the announcers are making a big deal of how the Eagles were only sending their front four on defense rushing but they were still getting Patrick Mahomes. They must have sacked him seven times and he was pressured another seven or 15 times. Even he could not, he could not stop and like go into his motion and throw the football. I don't think he ever was able to get comfortable and throw the ball once. It was hard to watch if you were a cheese fan. Nah, well then I lucked out.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I didn't watch one second of it. Commercials were great. There were several really good commercials. I liked the Seal Seal commercial. It was a seal singing, but it was seals face on the seal. You know, the singer like, baby, I can dig it down. And then that one was great.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's a hard song to hear. Oh, oh, oh. I believe you. There was a good. Were they selling? I don't know. Okay. Not a good. Like I didn't care what they were selling at all.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I never do, but I'm into the commercials. That's my I like the commercials at least as much as I like the game when when I'm watching a Super Bowl. There was a really good Jeep commercial with Harrison Ford and I liked it a lot. It made me Google how much the Jeeps cost. Doing his mad old man thing. He was he was and at the end of it he goes, doing his mad old man thing. He was he was. And at the end of it, he goes, you do what makes you happy.
Starting point is 00:27:06 This Jeep makes me happy, even though my name is. And then he drives away. And I was like, oh, that's fucking cool. That was a nice little moment. And then I read this whole article today about how Dodge's partner company is just failing and how the whole Dodge Chrysler line is decimated in the dumps. I guess they started going to these inline V6s on the Dodge trucks and turbocharged them and it has as much power as a
Starting point is 00:27:34 Hemi but they wanted the Hemi. You know they're selling to Rednecks, we're like, you gotta hear me in it. No, I have the inline V6 with the turbo. It's just as powerful. Where are you going? It's just not as cool. And what else do they do? I know the 300's dead, like the Chrysler 300's dead. I know Jeep- Yeah, Chrysler's been circling the drain for a while. And then Jeep tried to like, so they introduced a third row SUV called the Wagoneer that's really expensive. Like it starts at 60 and it goes to 120. So it's competing with Escalade and what Range Rover? Not for long it won't be.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Because there's no way that people are going to spend 60 grand on a Wagoneer. What the fuck is that? Yeah I feel like Wagoneer has been around for decades. That's not a new name to me. Yeah, I mean, here's a 2022 Jeep Wagoneer. Oh, okay. So it's just like a, it's a Jeep's attempt at breaking into the Tahoe market. Well, no, they're not, cause they're not priced like a taco, they're Tahoe. They're priced like an Escalade. Oh, Wagoneer was from the sixties of the the 90s and then they came back in 21. I didn't know that. Yeah, they're not doing well.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I started thinking about the other day of Saturn. I was like, I haven't seen a Saturn in forever. They went into business in like 2010. We had one. We had one Saturn in forever. My wife loved her Saturn. We thought it was cool. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It always did a good job. It seems like it was over the course of like one year that the planet cars like the Mercury's the Saturn's like they all went away Which is time Mercury is a subsidiary of Ford Lincoln Ford and Lincoln. I Think they're gone. Also aren't they there's no Mercury's anymore. Well, I don't know if they still do the Mercury But they certainly still do the Lincoln. They might do some Mercuries for like fleet sales, but besides each of them kind of having some of their own cars, it was a different trim level. Ford was the base and then Mercury and then Lincoln, I think, was the step up.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You had the same cars just with better shit on them. What's going to happen to car prices? It seemed like car prices kind of spiked around the COVID thing, right? Like there's some sort of pop there, used cars that are really expensive and they haven't gone down. And now we've added a 25% tariff to steel and aluminum. That's just going to add to the price of cars. Oh, I think it's going to. I think soon you're going to see some rebates come from manufacturers because lots are full. Like, like if you go to any car lot, it's full of old inventory. I think you're going to see good rebates on stuff, especially like domestic stuff. Because what are they going to do with it?
Starting point is 00:30:25 The cars are so, I think the price of the Jeep, they said, like the Jeep Wrangler went up 30%. This used to be like a $17,000 to $26,000 thing. And now it's a $27,000 to $40,000 thing. That's not where you want to compete when your car doesn't have doors, dude. Wranglers are a weird market because I've also read that like, I mean, obviously it's a car. It's not like a good investment, but compared to other cars, the Wranglers like hold onto
Starting point is 00:30:56 their value longer because the consumer base for them is like, they want a Wrangler specifically. Like that's what they drive. They want that weird tarp instead of glass into their side. I've never understood it. I remember a kid in high school had a Wrangler and after like one day of seeing him like pull out in front of me on the way home after school, and then just getting like seeing the wind whipping those like fufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufuffufufufufufufufuffufufufufufuffufufufuffufufufuffufufufuffufufuffufufuffufufuffufufuffufuffufuffufufuffufuffufuffufuffufuffufuffuffufuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuffuf Same thing, if you saw it, you'd be like, yeah, that's the one, the squarish one. It was awful. It was so bad. The radio, you couldn't hear the words because it was so terrible, like noisy in there
Starting point is 00:31:51 and the quality of the radio was awful. It was tinny and only treble. You had to yell at each other. It maxed out at like 60 miles an hour. Like it was not good on the highway. It, they named it Buck because when you drove it, it would Buck, it would just do like this thing the whole time.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And it, but I, it was cool. It definitely was cool. And I used to, if I was a lifeguard, so when it rained on the beach, I'd just drive her Jeep right and up to the night, to the next to the lifeguard stand. And we'd have like heat and like protection from rain when all the other lifeguards were sitting in the rain. Yeah, I learned compared to being outside you're like
Starting point is 00:32:29 what a lifesaver compared to a car it's like exactly. I learned about the Chrysler S200 the other day which to me was always just a junky car that Chrysler made. No, I remember that one. So what happened was Chrysler had only one V six engine and it was the three point six, I think, or something like that. This thing makes almost 300 horsepower, but it was for all their mid sized cars. But it also went into Chrysler S 200, which is like a compact car. It's a four door small all wheel drive car. So it looks like it like a junkie four door like compact car, but it's a it's a what you call those. It's like a Subaru WRX. It's a Subaru WRX that looks like shit. So you can get it for like $7000. It's 300 horsepower all wheel drive car. I kind of
Starting point is 00:33:20 will buy one now and fuck. I can tell you that these, it looks like they were around from 2011 to 2017. I remember these like getting shipped into our, our enterprise lot and renting them. And people fucking hated these. They were, they were herky jerky cars. They were unbelievably low quality on the inside and the interior, a huge amount of highway noise, apparently.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And so- You know what I said? This is a race car we're buying. It is 300- Not the ones we were shucking, handing off to people. 300 horsepower, all wheel drive is a Subaru WRX. Get inside one once and you will change your mind.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Well, I'm expecting a piece of it. I agree with both of you, right? My thing has always been the Lotus Esprit. I think they're old now, but that was a super light car. Apparently it's really small. I've never even seen one in person, but I think that it handles like a go-kart. The power to weight ratio is really good.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And it also has all the creature comforts of a go-kart. So like, I can imagine Taylor being like, dude, you ride this thing and you'll see you don't want it. And Kyle being like, you drive this thing, it's exactly what you thought it was, it's dope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was the exact same like size and feel of, have you ever driven a Chevy Cruze?
Starting point is 00:34:39 It is not the same feel as a Chevy Cruze, a car with 180 horsepower. I'm saying that in turn, I only know, I don't know the engines and everything. I know the way it felt on the inside and the discomfort of it, because we weren't giving people 300 horsepower things. I've never been in a car that was so uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Dude, you get in a Chevy Cruze and you're like, you're like, I shouldn't be riding slow. Like, this is just- Maybe the rental version of it isn't as nice I'm sure they like may not have had the basic shit ton of them oh it was definitely a four-cylinder yeah oh well then that's not even the same car but it's not at all like the whole point is like I said you're hitting you're taking a piece of shit but that shouldn't have that engine in it but it did that's the
Starting point is 00:35:23 that that's the part that's the thing I bet you could get one of those and just take the engine out. So that's a good engine Anyway, I watched a couple movies I know Taylor wants to talk about the heretic, but I wanted to recommend two movies one of them is called out of darkness 2022 it's 45,000 years ago and you're with a tribe of cave people and They're exploring a new land They've like broken off and they're like trying to find the fertile valley or whatever, some made up place that the leaders got them on and they're running into
Starting point is 00:35:50 something scary in the dark. Yeah. You got subtitles. Um, subtitles throughout, uh, of the case they grunt with and then there's subtitles that you just read. No, no, they have language. It's 45,000 years ago. They're humans like us. Um, so they've got like spears and furs and they're there what they live in caves and they're nomads currently But they have language. Can you help me with this language thing? I'm really stuck on it that So they speak some other language that we know the name of or do they like well, I have no so
Starting point is 00:36:22 They're either speaking gobbledygook or they're speaking Estonian, which might as well be gobbledygook basically. So they're like, ma tu ka latajta? I don't know. But the subtitles read like a book almost. It's not like they're using, you know, un gogo boom or something like that. Yes. They don't sound like, they don't sound like morons or read like morons, okay
Starting point is 00:36:45 Okay, that makes they're not saying rock make fire. They're they're they're like we got to get out of here It's trying to scare us or like whatever they have full they can speak full sentences. They're just Very ignorant people because they're they they're pretty similar to American Indians. I suppose in some ways. They're pretty Spiritual and primitive very primitive. I liked it a lot. It was maybe 90 minutes. I dug it. I liked the cave people shit. And then I watched last night
Starting point is 00:37:12 something I had never even heard of somehow. It's on Netflix. It's called The Devil All The Time. It was so good. It's got Tom Holland, Bill Skarsgård, and Robert Pattinson, and some other people that I recognize. I was constantly recognizing people in it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And it sort of spans the gap between World War II and Vietnam with this boy and his family and some loosely connected characters. I think they're in around Kentucky or West Virginia, somewhere up there in like the coal mining poor part of the world for sure. It was good. It was dark. Is Bill Starzard the sexy vampire? No, he's the sexy vampire's brother though. Okay. He plays it in the new It clan, you know, he's the clown. He's a very kooky looking guy. But he's really good in it.
Starting point is 00:38:13 He's like the world war two vet who's been home for a few years and is starting a family. And things are like, you know, it's a, it's hard, just a hard life. You're always worried that like the Gatlin boys are going to come rape mama when we're away. And it's like, you worried like the little sisters getting like rape bullied by like boys at school, you know, they're like, you don't know if they're like gonna beat her up or if they're gonna fuck her, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:35 like they're just being mean. Do they ever rape this girl? I mean, you know, you gotta watch the movie. The brother, Tom Holland plays her brother and he shows up later and he really handles business. So, but you know, it's a hard movie. Every step of the way, you're like, these people are in danger
Starting point is 00:38:54 and I don't think it's going to end well for them. I dug it a lot though. The devil all the time. Dude, rape bullied is the worst case scenario. Imagine like, I didn't enjoy regular bullying. Rape bullying. No, you're like, you so ugly. I'd have to put a bag on your head to fuck your mouth.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And you're like, that's mean, but then they get a bag and it's like, oh shit. Like how would you even do that? There's a bag over my head. Cut a hole in the bag. Cut a hole in the bag and then. They're about smarter than you. Calling it rape bullying.
Starting point is 00:39:23 There's a will away. Seems to both overstate to the intensity of bullying and understate the intensity of rape. I thought I hit it right in the middle. It was rape bullying. In that moment, you're like, are they gonna rape her? I don't know, I might just beat her up.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Was there one ringleader in the group who was like amping it up too much? The rest of them were like trying to give the girl like flat tires on the back of her shoe. And he's like, I'm gonna bust you. And he's like, whoa, cut her tits off. Dude, come on. We're let's just be regular mean. No, they were all like, like nine, nine out of 10 level mean about about this. She was kind of unfortunate looking as well. Robert Pattinson plays the new preacher in town and
Starting point is 00:40:04 he is as slick as it gets. And mama bring, they have like everybody brings a dish for the new preacher and grandma brings chicken livers. And Robert Pattinson is like, look at this. I see a lot of dark meat, white meat. And then look at this old battered dish here full of these livers. Not everybody can afford to eat good folks. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:40:26 As your new pastor, I'll eat these organs. So y'all don't have to. I'll eat them and y'all can eat all this good white meat and dark meat. And grandma's over there crying while Robert Pattinson like takes the bullet and eats her delicious chicken livers. The first of all, I've had fried chicken liver. It's good. And second, I've actually seen this movie. That scene reminded me. Yeah. I did not like that. And I felt horrible for that old lady. And it made me hate Robert Pattinson's character. Cause I'm like this fucking crazy shit is making this poor old lady who's doing her best, making a tasty meal for people.
Starting point is 00:41:03 They're shitting on her. Didn't like it. Didn't like it. You meet Robert Pattinson and your estimation of him is so fucking low and then the next time you see Robert Pattinson it plummets you're like I couldn't hate you more and then the next time you see him yeah you just he's like Joffrey he's moved on to this level where he's got to go. I was gonna ask you have you ever Had a negative opinion of an actor because they portrayed a terrible person so well No, usually it gives me a higher opinion like when I saw Joffrey giving an interview or I saw Ramsey giving one I was like Bro, like these guys are so good like in the moment. I'll be like, ooh
Starting point is 00:41:44 Ramsey and then to see him be like well moment I'll be like, ooh, Ramsey. And then to see him be like, well, I tried to bring something unique to the character. You understand? He's a ghoul, he's a nasty man. And he's a ghoul. Is it Jack Gleason? Jackie Gleason's someone else, right?
Starting point is 00:41:55 I don't know. I didn't, Joffrey's actor from Joffrey's character until he died. After he died, I was like, okay, bravo. You had me for what, three years now? Like, well done. Well, that's really a testament to the good acting. So he would-
Starting point is 00:42:14 But what I can't do- I hated him until he died. And then I realized he was acting because he was still alive. But if I hate someone, I can't watch them act. Like, what's her name? Kardashian. Kim Kardashian is in, I won't watch Brie Larson either, but Kim Kardashian is in a season of American Horror Story. And I'm like, I'm gonna skip this whole season.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I thought she was a wonderful person or something. I can go it off. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was like, I used to mock this woman. I thought she was a dumb bubble head, big butted, whatever. He's like, she is to mock this woman. I thought she was a dumb bubble head, big butted, whatever. He's like, she is smart, she is capable. She's like some sort of activist for good causes in the world where she effectively makes change.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Joe Rogan's opinion of her was sky high. And I wish I could give you all the details, but I was like. I don't know about her philanthropy, but I know. I know nothing about her. She's a whore who pimped out all of her younger sisters to also be whores and then another billionaire whores. We would have fewer Instagram pictures without Kim's contribution.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I suppose so. I've seen her twat from every angle imaginable at this point though. So I guess I'm just satiated. I think I'm missing out. She's old hat right now. You saw the porn date, her getting fucked by Ray J back in allegedly I've seen that.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So yeah, I mean, you get you get all see all sorts of stuff. Classy. I saw that Bianca sensor in now. Oh, yeah, much hotter. Kim Kardashian. Kim did that woman's body. It appears that's her actual normal body. It doesn't seem to be cosmetically modified or anything. She's just that hot. She is 0.01%. Oh yeah. I mean, everyone has a different version of what her fit is.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah, I'm more of the prime Emma Watson body type. That to me is where super hot is. So. I disagree. I'm in the minority. I don't dispute that. I'm just saying my point is everyone has a different bullseye. Wait, what is, you liked that you liked Emma Watson and Goblet of Fire. I guess that's the first one. But,
Starting point is 00:44:20 but, um, uh, anyway, this Bianca, is that her name? She's- Yeah, Bianca Sensori. I can see how she is a lot of people's version of unattainably perfect, so nailing it. Oh yeah, she's fucking nailing it. Two thumbs up, those big old heavy titties, that nice waist, well proportioned.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Smooth skin. Aw, damn it, Kyle. I thought you were linking me a picture of Bianca's and Sorey's big tits and it's a poster for Goblet of Fire. Yeah. I told you guys how when, like just my age, I'm like a couple years younger than Emma Watson. And so like our age lined up with theirs.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And I was never a big Harry Potter guy. But I remember a friend of mine was like, he had the biggest crush on Hermione. And like, so it made sense for him when he was like, 11 to have this full cardboard cutout of her at like 12 or 13. Like it made it totally normal because he had a crush on her car and then like I remember we went over to his house to pick him up for something. I needed to go grab some out of his room. I was just walking with him and we're at this point like we're like senior year and I go in yeah 17 years old or whatever go in there and it's like oh you still got the Emma Watson cardboard cutout. And he's like, it's a collectible. And I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Okay, so that's the 12 year old girl. You know. How old is she now? Is she like 40 or something? I wouldn't even know. I would say she is 30. She's 34. Five.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Okay. She's a year older than I am. Until April. I'm in the Mary-Kate and Ashley generation. We were, I'm the same age as them. I think maybe like their birthdays in April, maybe my whole class wrote them a birthday card in the third grade. Cause we, it's like, Hey, you are also in the third grade. What does it like to have a twin sister must be fucking weird or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:20 We wrote them all a letter and they wrote back or at least they had. That's like a teacher's back. to have a twin sister must be fucking weird or whatever. We wrote them all a letter and they wrote back or at least they had. That's like a teacher's activity back on their behalf. I don't know why. Like we chose to write them a fuck. I maybe full house was like popular enough that, Hey kids, how would you like to write a letter to Michelle from full house? Maybe that happened. I don't know, but we did it. I remember that. Now there's the new one, Elizabeth Olsen,
Starting point is 00:46:49 who nobody knew about back in the day. Is she the Scarlet Witch? She's the youngest one. I don't know what she's in, but I didn't realize they even had another sister until recently. She's the one who gets the news the most. Super hot.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And I, maybe I'm out of the loop. I always thought they for regular fine looking. The Olsen twins are kind of ghoulish looking, but Elizabeth Olsen I think is very attractive. Yeah, the Olsen twins look like they've probably struggled with eating disorders. They have that kind of look of anorexia, very way fish figures. Elizabeth Olsen's done a lot of nudity. So you got that checking for her.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Solid. Yeah. Oh, Kyle Heretic, you recommended that movie to me, and it was pretty good. I was losing interest halfway through it. I'm going to give some spoilers, Zach, if you want to put the little thing up. But I think it's really good horror movie. Watch it. I'm going to give some spoilers, uh, Zach, if you want to put the whole thing up. But here it gets really good horror movie. Watch it. It's a, uh, Hugh, Hugh Grant is hosting a house and two LDS girls show up and, uh, things get spooky. But if you don't want to spoiled, here we go.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah. It was like, number one, it was the most obvious, like this is a fucking weirdo bad guy immediately. And I thought I was, I was able to, to, dude, he was creepy the whole fucking time. He's like, oh yes, come on in. Don't mind the metal in my walls and ceiling, which I bring up now for no reason, almost as though I'm giving you a way out. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I watched this with my girlfriend and like I think maybe her generation of girls grew up watching like Bridget Jones' diary and maybe they've got like a little bit of a thing for Hugh Grant, but women find that guy like trustworthy and handsome I think. And that those girls were taken by that I think to some extent.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And he was very charming. They were like, well, we can't come in unless there's a woman here. Or you have a roommate. He's like, a roommate? Oh, I was taken aback. I haven't had a roommate in so long. 40 years now I've been married.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Oh, my wife is here. What that do? Well, yeah, of course you are. Come on in, there's blueberry pie. And it was like, okay, this guy's sick. Blueberry pie. And you come in and you're like, that is blueberry pie. But like you said, this guy's sick. Blueberry pie. And you come in and you're like, that is blueberry pie.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But like you said, it slowly gets creeped. When he mentioned the steel in the walls thing, I was like, oh, steel construction is smart. Smart, it is a, we're climbing up here. That's probably for the best. Yeah, I like it. I didn't think the cell phones wouldn't work. I was just like, ah, dude's bragging about his steel house.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Oh no, I would have immediately been like, you live in a Faraday cage, you fucking freak. I'm getting out of here like immediately. But also I had the suspension of disbelief of like, okay, these are two 21 year old, 20 year old, LDS girls, LDS girls. And so they're very sheltered. And they're not, they're going out into the world, assuming the best of people. Like they don't imagine that someone could be this despicable. And so this guy like runs them through a bunch of loops that for the first half of the movie, like at about like the halfway point, because I remember I paused it and it was almost, because I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:00 how much longer is this? And it was about halfway through. And up to that point, he had just been like, very slightly charming, and then transitioned rapidly into a very obvious ghoul. And they were going along with it because they had to. And they were trying to leave. And he's like, Oh, well, the front door dead boats at 9pm. And the girls are like, the girls are like, Okay, well, the front door dead boats at 9pm. And the girls are like, the girls are like, Okay, well, can you on deadbolt it and he's like, won't open until tomorrow morning. And it's like, son, I'm fucking dead bolts were like that. No one
Starting point is 00:50:35 automatically has where where the automatic deadbolt because he unlocked it multiple times to let course he did whatever his name is. Red Foreman's kid, Eric Foreman, talk to him. Yeah. Toe for grace. And he, I wish he had a bigger park. Cause I like him in most things. I wish he'd been like, wait a second. And he grant just cut his head off. Yeah. But it was, it was funny seeing like, uh, like he's, he's like talking to them about Mormonism and religion and everything. And then he's like,
Starting point is 00:51:06 they're like, Oh, you're so knowledgeable, this and that. And it's like, yeah, he like knew the, the basic structure of it and everything. And then he's like pulling them into a back room, a little mini cathedral that he claims his wife made. But that was like, after he had already said, they're like, can you please go get your wife? And he's like, of course, of course. Now, let me ask you something. Do you believe my wife is in the next room? Because if you still do, I'm more, yeah, that was good.
Starting point is 00:51:35 That was very spooky. And he was like, because if you still do, I'm gonna have to walk back there and talk to her. Yeah. The whole movie up until this point, there's been this bit of tension. You know when you like, you both ask each other a question and you answer theirs, but they don't answer yours. It just kind
Starting point is 00:51:50 of goes by the way and you're like, well, you didn't get me that time. I'm sure you'll come back to it and you'll answer my question. They keep asking for the wife to actually come out. He's like, oh, she's making the pie and she's shy, this and that. They can't be in a room with a man without a woman there, but he swears there's a woman there. And we get to this, now it's gotten tense. And we've gone back into this weird cathedral deeper into his house, because the only way out is through the back.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And he's like, you'll have to go out the back. The front doesn't work and it's creepy, it's tense. And he's like, what'd you just, she's almost crying, but just please, if you could get your wife. And he's like, oh, of course. And he goes over by the door and he goes to open it. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Do you really believe my wife's the next room? Because if you do, I'll go in there and shuffle about. But you really think she's in there. It basically got to the point where like, he was having a religious discussion with them, where it was, it's one of those things where like, if I wrote a movie about nuclear bombs, and I used my level of knowledge of nuclear fission to write a character who is an expert in nuclear fission,
Starting point is 00:53:04 it's going to be apparent to anyone who understands nuclear science immediately, knowledge of nuclear fission to write a character who is an expert in nuclear fission. It's going to be apparent to anyone who understands nuclear science immediately. Like, okay, well, this is like a very Wikipedia basic bitch understanding of this. Like this guy was just copying. That's basically what his religious stuff was, is like running through like an R-atheism kind of perspective on it. And it was like, it wasn't that compelling there. It was just, there were better ways to construct his stuff
Starting point is 00:53:29 because he was like reams of books and then just basic bitch like monopoly observations or board game comparisons of reiterations of the same thing which I get his basic point. But then like the culmination of it is he basically tricks these girls into going down into his basement because he's like, you saw my house. The door is through this horrifying cabin that I have in my Faraday cage home, of course. And then he's like, they go down the stairs. And of course, it's not an exit. It's a dungeon with like a tortured woman. And then he goes on like a loud speaker because he's now locked them in the
Starting point is 00:54:07 basement that he's tricked them into. And he's like, now I will show you the true religion. This woman is a prophet. She can recover from death. Watch as she eats this blueberry pie. There's a pie the whole time. And watches, you know, she eats this blueberry pie and there's, you know, shadows bane poison in it and she will soon be dead.
Starting point is 00:54:29 And so this lady eats pie and then she dies on the table. And he makes the girls like, can you confirm that she's dead? And they're like, it was the, it was the way I would confirm a dead body that's all gross. I was, they're like, he's like, feel the pulse. And I'd be like, oh, yeah, I guess she's dead. And he's like, feel for the breath. And you're like, I don't know. And they he tells them, you know, she's dead and she'll be back.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Don't worry. He baits them into going up the stairs. He switches the body with someone who's alive without them knowing and then convinces them that it was a miracle. And both the girls push back on it on like, well, no, convinces them that it was a miracle. And both the girls push back on it on like, well, no, I don't think so. And the girl who was shown as the dumb one the whole time was like, you know, Ethan Hawks, they're like,
Starting point is 00:55:16 so what do you think I've done tonight? You don't believe it's a miracle? No? And she's like, I think you got a bunch of fucking women in cages back there that look similar, that you've gotten near death's like, I think you got a bunch of fucking women in cages back there that look similar, that you've gotten near death's door. And then you trick them into eating a poisoned pie. And then you switch the body out and you convince people that this is a miracle. And he's like, Oh, absolutely not true at all. And that's exactly what it was.
Starting point is 00:55:41 That's what it was. And like the big, you know, culmination moment that didn't make sense given the Ethan Hawks prior motivations was like. Hugh Grant. The woman being, Hugh Grant, sorry, being like, you know, so do you understand the one true religion now
Starting point is 00:55:56 that you're in this room near a bunch of cages with women that I'm swapping out for no gain? And she's like, yes, you wanted to teach me that it's about control. And he's like, yes, you wanted to teach me that it's about control. And he's like, Yes, the same way I through my machinations convinced you through your own free will into this basement here. That's what religion is. And it's like, you didn't sway anyone into a basement. You fucking lunatic. You threatened them in a locked house and then stood there menacingly until you bullied them in there.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And then like it just you don't have to admire his plan. It's not a creepy movie. I like I get it. But like what was what was he standing to gain through it? Because he had mixed motivations. At one point he tried to appear sincere in a search for knowledge and then on a dime it pivoted to just gleeful enjoyment in manipulating these young girls and so maybe the entirety of it was a house of cards. He wanted to corrupt and alter their faith, someone especially someone like them who was so faithful. He was kind of an actual Satan in that way but they never really had a choice if you paid attention like you said because initially he's like there are two doors
Starting point is 00:57:05 that lead out of my house this one if you if you believe in God and this one if you do not and They're like let's go out the one that doesn't believe in God because clearly that's what he wants us to do and she's like No, I believe in God. I'm going down this they went to the same place They went to the same place and you saw that like right away. They're like, oh these just go right to There's no way out there and so it just it was weird that he was None of his motivations made sense. It was a spooky movie. It was a it was a spooky situation. I enjoyed it But it really came apart When all of his exposition about religion and belief and all that
Starting point is 00:57:45 Like didn't culminate in anything real. It was like, you already have them in the basement. You almost had me for a second. Why go through this like multi-step trickery where you apparently have half a dozen women kidnapped? When, when he cut out that thing out of her arm, I didn't know that birth control implants could look like that. I, and I was like, Oh my God, it's real.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Because he was trying to say that this is a simulation. And then and that he was he was trying he was a proponent of simulation theory. And or he was claiming to be he was trying to prove that that was the true reality. And he had me when he cut that thing out of her arm. I was like, Oh, fuck, are we about to like wake up in the matrix? Is it going to be like Neo like pulling coming out of a pod in a second? Like, is that where this is headed? But no, it was, it was women in cages. It was just women in cages. Yeah. You mentioned Ethan Hawke and I think you're thinking of the black telephone, which is a better movie about like a child menacing,
Starting point is 00:58:40 molesting monster of Ethan Hawke who wears that scary mask and kidnaps boys and keeps them in his house. I appreciate you giving me that credit. I just forgot his name. Yeah, that'll do it too. But yeah, it was spooky. It had a good aura most of the time. It was just the complete disconnect from the guy. Like it was as if the last 30 minutes of the movie may as well have deleted every bit of dialogue and exposition from the first three quarters of it, where it was like, okay, well, because in order for a movie to be truly scary and to be compelling, the
Starting point is 00:59:19 bad guy and the good guy, like they have to stand to gain something. And he had nothing to like, there was nothing to gain through this weird machination because he seemed overjoyed at the prospect of them, quote, choosing to do this of their own free will. But they didn't. They asked him 10 minutes into the visit, like, can we go home? And he's like, Oh no, the doors are locked and there's a door to my basement that I'm going to menace you into going. I like the first half of the movie more than the second half. I liked the slow, creepy build up and the awkwardness of being a guest in someone's home and not knowing if they're
Starting point is 00:59:58 being weird and polite or if they're like deceivingiving you to kill you when they and you can't tell like he steps away and they're like, let's get the fuck out of here, right? So I was like, okay, at least they're smart enough to know things are weird Yeah, something's up and no one like like they they wanted to debate him because it like it was funny They're like we need to don't just let him monologue we need to debate him. And I was like, and then their excuse for wanting to do that was like some, you know, changing his mind. And it's like, no fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Eric Foreman's on the way. Give a five hour soliloquy over your beliefs. Like just keep him not killing you. Like that's the intent. Eric Foreman, I can't, Eric Foreman was like their like local parish priest or whatever and he comes looking for the girls at one point but like even if and he's worthless he doesn't help he doesn't even do anything he was a useless character if you think about every scene that flashes to him it's just to make us think that something might happen that
Starting point is 01:00:59 never does. There's no reason for him in the movie at all. Not a great movie but a good movie I like does. There's no reason for him in the movie at all. Not a great movie but a good movie. I liked it. I like the creepiness. It was spooky and he played the spooky guy very well. So I guess I do recommend it in that way. Silo? Yeah. No, I'm watching Mr. Robot instead. I started watching Mr. Robot. I don't know if you've ever seen that but it's about a hacker. It's got the Pacific guy in it. I know his name. I just need help getting his phone. Pawn killer already at one point. Do you remember that? I do forever ago.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah, it's pretty good. I went through the first season and liked it a lot. Basically, he's a hacker who works at a internet security company that, and their, whose clients are like the biggest corporations in the world, but secretly they're trying to take down the biggest corporation in the world. What they're trying to do is delete everyone's debt,
Starting point is 01:01:58 like in Fight Club. And so they're like hacking into these storage facilities that are supposed to be armored against everything. And there's lots of like secret missions that they go on and they're like trying to take the man down. So it's pretty good. And there's a weird Swedish character who's like creepy. There's a creepy villain who's like just creepy.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So that he can access this guy's cell phone to do this nonsense, he like has gay sex with him. He like, and he tells his wife, she's like, where you going? He's like, I'm going to the like the cock and ball club. She's like, is this necessary? He's like, it is fuck. And then goes to the cock and ball and then like. Why are you wearing assless shafts? No, he seduces this man takes him home fucks him in the ass
Starting point is 01:02:51 Tells the man to go take a shower And then when the when the when the gay man showering he gets in the gay man's phone and like inject some code or some shit So that so that he like can control because this guy's like the assistant to do that That's So that he like can control because this guy's like the assistant I used to do that It's you know, but that's it That's literally the South Park bit where the cop like sucks off the whole frat house and he's like Given me quite a stretch and then and then they barge in for the code word stretch and they're like why the hell You let the punch have sex with all the Condoms aren't you worried about diseases take this for evidence
Starting point is 01:03:34 all of his partners are just a gas and he's got the starting i think you're taking this mission too seriously stubble but a full like like Britney Spears whore outfit that's a good episode. That is a funny fucking episode. All right, that's probably enough of this. Yeah. Yeah. All right. PKN 547 I'm hungry.

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