Painkiller Already - PKN 551

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKN 551, how you boys doing? Pretty good. Pretty good. Fun news day. Just, just everybody's melting down. It's always, it's great. It's great. I slept in late.
Starting point is 00:00:12 I was up too late and then I turn on the news and I try to catch up on everything. That's the big news. Kyle slept in late? So I slept in. That's a hilarious little intro to your story. I'm usually up fairly early. I like to catch that morning news. I like to be on a famously strict schedule.
Starting point is 00:00:29 What was the alarm set for, six? Yeah, 6.30. Yeah, okay, bye bye. PM, PM. Sure. I gotta make this. Well, it's springtime now. You're gonna have to work extra hard
Starting point is 00:00:39 to avoid this pesky sunlight. Oh my God. I black windows out. I don't play those games. Yeah, yeah, I saw that, uh, Trump did a little Tesla commercial in front of the white house. That was neat. Oh, it's just so, uh, he got in there. He's like, he's like, it's nothing but computers in here. That's how I felt.
Starting point is 00:00:55 2018. Cars have screens now. I don't, I, I, I like, or I'm hoping for a return to analog stuff in cars because it's more convenient. Like most of them are like a lot of cars, dials, buttons, it's just easier than the flat screen. Everybody's going back to that. Like they hurt consumers worldwide. You're not alone or we're tired of fiddling with like touch pads with greasy french fry fingers. The Acura that I drive a good bit has like both and it has this little pad down by the gear shift that you put your finger on and it's a push button and also a track pad so
Starting point is 00:01:37 you can navigate everything without like leaning forward and touching shit. But I saw that Mercedes and Lexus were adding just rows of real fucking buttons you know and and turn things I like I like the knobs that when you turn them they have like a little click click click little ratcheting thing to them in there yeah like my my climate control every index should change a single degree you know yeah three degrees um yeah my driving power is a nice balance. I really like my truck. I feel protected by the fact that I like my truck and I don't have to buy these like tariff trucks that are
Starting point is 00:02:12 coming or whatever the trucks. There's enough old age stuff though. Like there's millions of dollars worth of inventory rotting on on on lots like they don't know what to do. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know what to do. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know if raising the price of new trucks impacts the price of trucks already built, right? Like you'd think it could. But anyway, I have a screen with Apple CarPlay and I also have so many buttons. I'm like, OK, what does this do?
Starting point is 00:02:39 Ah, telescoping steering wheel. OK, I don't even know that all dimming this or that. That's in your coma. Is that right? No. OK, I don't even know that. Oh, dimming this or that. That's in your Tacoma. Is that right? No, no, I don't use any. I saw that actually. I don't know the F-150. I couldn't remember what kind of truck you had.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's all good. Of course, not a Tacoma. I watched these. I really like the car YouTube channels that just go to lots and rip on dealerships. I watch that a lot. Like I watch 20 minutes at a time of just some guy going from car to car and like a Chevy dealership laughing at them and how they're definitely going out of business.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Like there's a like it because you were in car sales. Like what a normal person. Yeah, what's fun about it? They quite what's good. You just hate Ford. No, it has nothing to do with any of that No, it's it's not it's not one car maker model. It's I mean Jeep Wranglers for a hundred twelve thousand dollars He's like, this is a Jeep Wrangler. This is one hundred and twelve thousand dollars on the sticker It says that and he's like crazy. It's two years old brand new
Starting point is 00:03:39 Here's another one and another and another and another and another and it's just a sea of $125,000 F-150s that will never be sold. They're like the Harley-Davidson, Roush, Racing, fucking Ironman package. Oh, it's 25 grand extra. And then we stack another 10 grand dealer markup on top of that and they're sitting there and they're rotting and they're paying interest on that lot space, on millions of dollars worth of inventory. They wanna turn over in 30 to 90 days. They don't wanna pay any interest.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The average is like 210 to 260 right now. It is very common to see multi-year old brand new vehicles on those car lots and the prices are outrageous. I don't know who buys them. I don't know how you can afford to have $10 million worth of escalates out there and sell one a month. The Tesla dealership in Raleigh has had to lease a second overflow lot for all the unsold cars and I'm like, is this like a, like, ooh, I got the inside scoop everyone, sell Tesla. It's not dropping like 20% a day or something. Like, ooh, I got the inside scoop everyone, sell Tesla.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's not dropping like 20% a day or something. I wouldn't want to sell the stock. Yeah, yeah. That's when you buy. I've learned that about stocks. When the bots are overfilled with unsold inventory? No, when it's cratering. You know, it's so hard because when it's cratering,
Starting point is 00:05:02 it looks like there's no future. The bottom is never when things are starting to turn around. Although it is. It's when things look their darkest. Yeah. And it just does. I'm like, where's Tesla going to find customers? These Chinese companies making better cars. Europe is like pretty much outlawed. Texas. Everyone outside of America wants nothing to do with Tesla now,
Starting point is 00:05:24 because all everyone outside of America doesn't like us. And then within America, the Democrats don't like Teslas, which were the people that bought them. So who's buying your Teslas? You get Trump up there trying to sell them to Republicans in the White House. Now, this is a rough spot to be in. There's a reason the stock is tanking. But this is what it looks like when a stock is at its bottom. He's doing all that for us. How does it make you feel that he's taking he's like Christ. He's like a modern day Christ taking all that pain for us suffering for
Starting point is 00:05:51 us. Well, I don't know about that. Which one is this? Elan? Elan is like Jesus. Yeah, it must be tough to be as broke as he is now. I don't know. Oh, that's what I see. Is he making it? He lost $40 billion yesterday, but, but you know, the, the internet's like, ha ha, he's ruined now. And it's like, no,
Starting point is 00:06:13 why do y'all pick? Why do y'all not? Someone needs to like tap you on the shoulder and remind you that what you're really doing is sort of like, aha, that's a little win for the good team. But in reality, like it's the evil empire. What, what you're pointing out is that Darth Vader lost a fucking boat You know, but he's still got his galactic fleet up there. You know, Musk is not going anywhere. He's president's best friend Well, I think his companies will do okay Yeah, like how are the other ones do I agree with you 100% on the Tesla thing? I don't know who's buying one. I don't want one. And it has nothing to do with my feeling.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Look, I like Elon more or less. I'm kind of like neutral on him, I guess. There are things that I think are weird and odd. And I didn't like when he financially supported Amber Heard during her trial of Johnny Depp. That's such a little thing, but that's the kind of thing that irks me. But I don't know who's gonna buy a Tesla either.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I don't want one. For one thing, I always see build quality issues like basic build quality issues with with steel, not lining or panels not lining up correctly or, or, you know, in the front of your pickup truck, how it's got that really flexible, little clicky around the thing, right? It's for that thing is designed and who knows what Ford or Chevy or who are invented that thing? Spent to be like how look at this they go off-roading they bottom it out
Starting point is 00:07:29 I use this fancy new material we invented it completely flexes pops right back no damage It's a little scuff brush it off Tesla uses hard plastic down there when you go off-roading and it explodes It just breaks off like hard brittle plastic around in front of the the tires on the side and the back on the front and the back. There's pros and cons to what Tesla's doing. It's like everyone knows how to build a car and Tesla's like heck that I'm going to do it my way something new from scratch and that gives Tesla's the biggest margins in all of automobiles. No one makes more money per unit than Tesla. On the other hand, they get shit wrong because they're not building on lifetimes
Starting point is 00:08:11 of experience, like things that bump on the ground aren't supposed to explode when they bump on the ground. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, they're figuring it out. I like, I think that's a good analysis of it. I've had the same opinion on Tesla since the very beginning that for how expensive they are, or I should say how expensive they were
Starting point is 00:08:28 when they were first coming out, to they're just aesthetically not there. Like I never see a Tesla and I'm never like, whoa, the car of the future. It's like, that looks just like a 20% smoother Camry. It never wowed. We missed out. The car you're talking about is the Fisker and they went out of business.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You ever see a Fisker? Look up. I think they've been out of business for 10 years or something. It's been a minute. Time flies. But look what a Fisker looked like. I saw one on the road one time and I was just I followed him around for a little while because I didn't know what it was. I didn't know if it was like some sort of weird Japanese version of a car that had been imported or like a European supercar that's got plates on the front and
Starting point is 00:09:11 somebody remember the model of Fisker that you like. I don't know there were models like it was something like this is the karma. This one's really cool. The one that I'm familiar with is the ocean and it looks a little more ordinary. Oh, okay. I like this more than the way Tesla's look. I'm sure it's a higher end, like more expensive car, but it's still, it's not wowing me. Like this, this right here, if you were to put a little blur over the front hood
Starting point is 00:09:35 and say this was Kia's newest offering, I'd be like, oh, okay. This is the Ocean that I talked about. This is also a Fisker, and it doesn't, like to Taylor's eye, what is this? That's Fisker and it doesn't like to Taylor's eye. What is this? That's Fisker. That one looks pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I think, so Tesla just updated the Model Y. It's so updated, I'm not sure it's for sale yet, but there's pictures of it. You can see what it looks like. And I'm like, oh man, I feel like you went from being 10 years behind to five and good, I guess, but you're a Tesla Model Y, man. You're not supposed to look so shitty. And I can't wrap my arms around how much a Tesla costs.
Starting point is 00:10:14 They will tell you it's 35,000. And then I read on the internet that you literally can't get that model, that it's never for sale, there's backlogs, whatever. You can't have the cheap one. And then you find out it's like 15 grand to upgrade your house to have a charging station. And it's like, oh shit, is that right?
Starting point is 00:10:30 And then it's 10 grand for their cruise control that they call self-driving. And I'm like, fuck, so we've already added 25 grand to the car that was 50, like this is a lot. How much does it really cost to have a Tesla to charge at your house? You can go get a F-150 Lightning. So right now, because of what I said,
Starting point is 00:10:48 because of inflation, because of the tariffs, because of the whole car market being fucked, they think a Ford Lightning is gonna be worth way more than it's going to be worth in two or three years. So the lease numbers, which you can use that $7,500 tax credit or whatever it is against your lease purchase, you can lease an F 150 lightning for like $250 a month with 3000 down. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:13 wowsers. Like, like a nice one, like an F 150 lightning XLT or something is a couple hundred dollars a month with three grand down. That's a limited lease. But again, you're driving around a I don't know what those things cost $80,000 or something truck $200 a month with three grand down. That's a limited lease. But again, you're driving around a I don't know what those things cost $80,000 or something truck for $250 a month They are going to be so upside down in three years when you turn that bitch in it's going to be a mess it's but but every now and then something like that happens the camaro leases were like that about Two years ago you get one for $200 like a v6 camaro was $200 a month
Starting point is 00:11:46 I mean car prices should be going down if they've got those lots you're talking about and they're pumping out the new models now like they they have to at some point go and fix their inventory issue going up inflation i thought you said that boards were going to go like they're going to have to start reducing prices drastically if you wanted to run if you weren't counting on the government to bail you out which is what's eventually gonna happen. Like they're going to be upside down in those leases. There's no fucking way around it. Like the American taste for the electric vehicle
Starting point is 00:12:14 has soured and that on top of Tesla's core market, the people who would buy one because it's green, the people who would buy one because it's green, the people who would buy one because it's from a company that has green ambitions or multi-planetary ambitions, all that good-feel shit. I'm serious. Like lots of people buy it for that reason. I take that seriously too.
Starting point is 00:12:36 That's a big deal to me. That's all gone though. All that goodwill is gone. That whole client base is gone. The multi-planetary stuff Goodwill has gone, I thought has like SpaceX is doing the same shit, right? Yeah, I like the idea of enriching Elon Musk because he has this goal. I think he's saying
Starting point is 00:12:50 the type of person who values that no longer lines up with Elon. Yeah, like people who are just behind the Elon umbrella because the Elon umbrella means so much more than just, I don't know, him calling people pedophiles on the internet or Nazi salutes. It used to mean getting to Mars and like putting people on Mars, which I really want to see before I die. I mean, it wouldn't be, you'd be let down. Don't want to spend too much time on it because
Starting point is 00:13:17 I know we've litigated this to death. What are you let down? We are not going to live long enough to see the cool shit happening on Mars like we might see some people land there boots boots is boots would be the cool shit you need the Infrastructure the building of things the growing of things like that's the cool part to watch like the actual beginning Isation of the colonization. That's the that's the cool shit. Well, then that that's not going to happen for hundreds of years What I'm interested is this science experiment that is Mars the spending a hundred million dollars To send one guy there to do some botany to dig around in the dirt and add water and sunlight and whatever else to the dirt That's there and see if anything grows see if there used to be life
Starting point is 00:13:57 Like I'm interested in that. I don't met Damon colonizing Mars. We don't live there No, we don't want to live there. I get it. Sting the whole the whole solar system sucks. Thank goodness. No, Earth is here. I'm right here, dude. I should have said outside of Earth. Earth rules all sorts of awesome animals and ecosystems everywhere else is dog shit.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Everywhere really is the whole like like Elon often. I don't know if he believes it or if it's just part of his sales pitch But he's like earth is gonna get ruined by the humans on it global warming call it nuclear Nuclear attacks is whatever it is. We need another place to go and then I have Neil deGrasse Tyson in my other ear saying What? like it in my other ear saying, what? Like Earth is so much closer to what we need than Mars is. Even on our worst CO2 catastrophe timeline, it's a better starting place than Mars.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, and we're here. Yeah, we're here already. We're already on Earth. But the argument behind that would just be almost like a vault of humans living somewhere that wasn't Earth, not in case we pollute Earth, but in case, I don't know, plague that takes everyone out or an asteroid that truly kills everybody. There'd just be some genetic human somewhere who could come back.
Starting point is 00:15:15 A rainy day fund. A rainy day fund. Not like what you see in sci-fi. So they can die slowly. Well, no. Again, like if, well, no, they'd have spaceships and they'd have the ability to support themselves there so they could return to earth and colonize it with intelligent people eventually. So that could happen. Thank God we're going back to earth.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Turns out with all the humans dead in two weeks, the virus is gone now. I mean, yeah, maybe so. Maybe so. We can finally get off this shitty planet. I'm tired of being a break day account. Yeah, that could be our, that's our solution in the future. That's what Elon's gonna do to the illegals.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Send them to Mars. He's gonna send them to Mars. So here's your punishment. You have to grow a bunch of- Finally, we're not paying for these illegals anymore. People are gonna make, at the time we'll make China, we'll make the Chinese Russian Federation pay for it,
Starting point is 00:16:02 not Mexico. People will be paying up to go to Mars Mars like if I were a science not smart people The smartest people will be the ones to go the most smart This is the ad the absolute smartest people will be understand how smart they are the absolute smartest people will be assisting and observing from Earth That people who are behind the desk sure maybe the more the people with the most experience and stuff But the fucking guy who can fly a spaceship and do botany on Mars is the bigger badass genius if you ask me Why is why is botany your go-to here? Because that is the life that will be on Mars. Zoology doesn't really make a lot of sense I think it could be fun to get Mars animals
Starting point is 00:16:42 So we've been throwing dogs out of the habitat for six months now and they haven't adapted. We're going to program a full total loss. Bugs can live almost anywhere. We make those people eat bugs. That almost is doing a lot of heavy lifting on Mars. Yeah, no, Mars sucks. We're a jillion years from making it nice. And by the time we have the technology to make Mars even a little bit nice, which it never would be nice, we would be able to make it to one of those 50% better but still shitty moons of Jupiter.
Starting point is 00:17:17 By the time we have that requisite technology of like, hey, we can actually get something cooking maybe with botany and agriculture on Mars. It's like, Hey, let's just skip that. We've got super fast ships. Now we're going to go to this other place with like, where it confirmed water under this, this cat. Isn't this Centauri like three sun solar system only two or three light years away. Why don't we figure out how to go faster? Yeah, do they have, but do they have planets? I was like, I just got dumber
Starting point is 00:17:46 for having heard that. No, we can figure out ways to go faster. There's nothing there. Like, all right. So like that stuff is the stuff that you hate that CERN stuff that that that hyper loop or whatever they've got in Europe where they're colliding particles. That's how you figure out how to go faster than we're going right now. Because right now I hate where it's burning gas. Taylor does, he's always. I hate it. Yeah, you always make fun. Sometimes it's hard to tell who he's replying to. I'm like, I want to go faster.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Kyle's like, that's what you hate. And I'm like, what? Taylor. Is that the position I've staked out? I guess I got to go with it. Oh, I remember why I hated it. Yeah, we're not going back. Because they're combining molecules at zillions of miles an hour,
Starting point is 00:18:24 numbers close to the speed of light. Uh-huh. And if it goes wrong, it's just like Europe destroyed. If it goes wrong? If it goes wrong, yeah. All that science all together. Do you think you know more than the people who are colliding the subatomic particles
Starting point is 00:18:38 at nearly the speed of light about subatomic particles colliding at the speed of light specifically? I mean, not quite as much. Okay. That would, I would say marginally, it would be like arguing against like, like, uh, uh, uh, somebody working with dolphins because I don't know what if they go killer? Yeah. What if they train killer dolphins and they just hunt us all down?
Starting point is 00:18:59 You know, they get breeding apparatus, they could come aboard land. This would be like you getting into a debate with me on cheese. Just to use this. They're trying to figure out. You're referring to like one or two shows ago. Where you stepped into the lions, Dan, and you had no idea. They can live on a, they can live on Mars, but they got to be underground. There's no magnetosphere on Mars. There used to be oceans on Mars.
Starting point is 00:19:26 They think that we might come from Mars. And by going to Mars and looking around at them, if we could dig in the dirt and find some microbes and the genetics of that microbe match ours, we could determine that this was an ancestor of ours. That when Mars had oceans on it and running water and oxygen, rock hit it really hard and blew a Martian rock and it came to earth and landed
Starting point is 00:19:51 and it had some little Martian microbes inside the rock sealed inside of it. And those were the life that became us. That sounds neato, but they don't even know what dinosaurs look like. I'm like, can we really trace back to whether this microbe was the origination? Absolutely. Yes, 100%. We can, we, that's how we know when life began. I've been studying this for a few seconds now. Yeah, and we definitely don't know when
Starting point is 00:20:14 life began. That's like one of the biggest debates in science. It is not a debate. Outside of those people who believe there were dinosaurs on Noah's Ark, there is very little debate that ranges wildly. It's like, was it 4.6 or 4.5 million? It's close. They can, well, the Earth is 4.6 billion years old. Once it cooled off, they can determine that life began right away. They can rewind our genetic code to the beginning
Starting point is 00:20:40 and see how long we've been evolving. I have a question. Is that by looking deep inside us or by like archeology and looking at things deep inside all life on earth, any life on earth. And you're saying they rewind it. Like, that's very video game-ish. Like we rewound the genetic code
Starting point is 00:20:59 and it took us to this path. I think that if I Googled enough to give you the correct terms you wouldn't understand them anyway because I wouldn't understand them because I have to google them to understand. I'm putting into layman's terms because I understand that just like the YouTube science professor taught it to me that way. I understand I'm being combative because it bothers you. Taylor your ignorance doesn't bother me it just disappoints me. About about rewinding all of all of life. I don't know if we know exactly when life began. That seems crazy. Pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Not exactly. No, but very close. We determined that. There are periods of like more rapid evolution, which would denote like a higher rapidity of change of genetic material and then other periods with like static more static ecosystems or ice ages or whatnot where you'd be in the same environment for a long time. Like where you're not being as pressured as much to change. I don't know what your question is. Like you know how like if a Finch live I want Darwin's finches like living on an island
Starting point is 00:22:03 with a static you know just know, always going to be the same, always is the same environment. Once it kind of optimizes to that, there's no more external pressure for it to change. Whereas like if it's moved around, it's going to change more rapidly because it will, you know, overpopulations and over time need to change to fit that environment. Because we know our climate changes, like we have periods where there's huge amounts of change and then periods where there's not a lot of change. And so maybe we see like a hundred genetic indicators of change. I'm talking about genetic mutation. You're talking about like the evolution of a species like crocodiles or sharks that have been very much the same for like a hundred million years. Yeah, I'm not trying to be shitty with this one. I was being sincere. But I guess how
Starting point is 00:22:50 would you know when it changed? I wouldn't know. I would need a scientist on the internet who does understand those things. But they tell me that they can absolutely rewind genetics to determine when life began. And they can determine if, and the genetics of something that evolved on a different planet would be completely different. Like you would, it would be like reading two different roadmaps. They would be like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:23:12 these guys had a different blueprint and they started at a whole different thing. Like, so if you went to Mars and you found, you would know, like these are our ancestors. These are, these share genetic traits with our ancestors. They are literally our ancestors, you could determine that or if you found some life that had its own fucking blueprint that had done its own thing, that would be
Starting point is 00:23:32 great evidence because you would see that look, the first time we went to another planet, we found life that started on its own, completely separate from ours, it would be a key, a key that a key sign that life is very common. What if like, like, fast forward time, like 400 years, or however long it's going to take. At that at this point, humanity, we've kind of uncovered everything in our solar system. We've got bots on Pluto and Ceres or whatever that little miniature Pluto is. Like, we've done it all in our solar system and we can't find a lick of life. What do you think that changes mean the first samples that we took from Mars and tested
Starting point is 00:24:26 Tested positive for life. I understand and then they went back and they said oh it was this and that but there's some there's still Disagreement among those scientists about about whether that was life or not. I watched the whole thing about that the other day I think there's life everywhere. I think it's the natural consequence of fucking Natural chemistry I think that that the of natural chemistry. I think that natural chemistry automatically just does that under the right conditions, given the enormous amount of time that there just is, the infinite amount of time there is. It'll just happen eventually.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That the amino acids will pool together in a warm pool of mud and muck and water, and there'll be some static electricity or a warm spot or some decaying uranium nearby. Something will happen, it'll get fired up and it'll become a cell like thing. And then the race begins. But what if this, like what we're at right now is, because like we can't, like we can't falsify. We really don't know. Like what if the little amalgamation of inputs we're at on earth is the prerequisite to carbonbased life. And that's why we don't see anything else in our solar system because it just didn't have the right mix.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I don't, what would be during the time when they think life began on Earth, like I don't think there's anything uncommon about those circumstances. We don't know what the circumstances were. Again, we don't know if there is life outside the Earth. But in the circumstance where we found life everywhere, I think... I guess what I'm saying is I don't think there's anything rare about Earth or the conditions on Earth that made life happen. I think that those conditions happen everywhere. I mean, you're not going to have koalas running around on Mars, obviously, but I bet there's gooey things deep under the ground on Mars still living. I bet there's microbes
Starting point is 00:26:09 down there. Because that thing Woody was talking about a few months ago about how they discovered this whole biosphere in the Earth's crust. I've been reading about that. That's crazy. There's more life under the ground than there is above the ground. There's all sorts of these weird worms and microbes and odd types of life. These single cell life forms that when they're dying, they grow another cell, they split into another cell, and then they go inside of the second cell. So they're a cell inside of a cell, and then they starve the outer cell to death. So it becomes light enough that they can move and like go to a new place to live and they can be a dormant for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Do these critters live like how far? Really deep. Like they found life so deep in earth that it changed their perception of what the conditions for life to exist are like, oh yeah. So that was the neat part, which kind of lends to what life to exist are. Like, oh, yeah, right? So that was the neat part, which kind of lends to what Kyle was talking about. Like, well, you know, we know Earth, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:27:10 we know Mars isn't habitable, but do we? Maybe if we widen our minds as to what, habitals is the wrong word, maybe we widen our minds to what life can live in. You know, what life can endure is what I'm going for. Then maybe there's something can endure Martian conditions. I don't know. Yeah, we found all sorts of microbes that live under the most awful
Starting point is 00:27:31 circumstances, high radiation, high pressure, high heat. Um, they can't take those microbes they found from in the earth and really. Put them in a laboratory, re laboratory to recreate where they live and then view them because you can't put a camera inside of the machine that would make the pressure and the heat that they live in. You know what I mean? It's a- It's not as bad as what Kyle's talking about,
Starting point is 00:27:54 but even the very, very deep sea life where no light reaches, it's like, well, how can there be, like light is sort of a star. That's the energy source that fuels everything else. And the light grows the photosynthesis, which grows some sort of plant, which everything else builds on top of. And we all know this, right? But then you go to the very deep ocean and there's no light. So there's no energy. Where do we even get started? Well, the, I don't know, the earth is leaking some heat into
Starting point is 00:28:18 the bottom of the actual, there's a whole ecosystem that lives there. Did you want to add? Yeah, that's cool. New discovery, new discovery called dark oxygen. I read about this too. I've never heard this. Dark oxygen. So there are all sorts of life forms that live on the bottom of the sea that live off those vents, off the sulfur and the hot gases that are coming out of them. Dark oxygen is produced when metallic nodules on the seaor react with salt water and it creates oxygen completely separately from photosynthesis. It's a new discovery. I've never heard of that.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Is the oxygen... The oxygen itself is the same. It's just a way of it being created. We didn't know it could happen. That's cool. Oh, that's why it's dark oxygen because it's not photosynthetic oxygen. I put it together a minute later, right? I put it together right after what he said. because it's not photosynthetic oxygen. I put it together a minute later, right? I put it together right after what he said it. Yeah. That's so cool. Our world is so awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:13 The more we talk about earth, the gayer Mars seems like doesn't have shit. I heard Mars is going to pound Uranus. It's so good. Mars is a super planet. We should blow it up for wasting our fucking time. For wasting my time blowing up Mars. Although that wouldn't that throw us, that would throw us off into a loop, not a crazy loop, but it would change our- That would be a really good question.
Starting point is 00:29:35 See, that's the question I would like a physicist to be asked. I would like to ask Neil deGrasse Tyson to do the math. How would Earth's orbit change if Mars was removed from the equation of the planets? Because I know something would happen. Yeah, it wouldn't be great. Or maybe it would. Maybe weather gets a little better. But I have heard stuff like, oh, Jupiter is super responsible for our path in
Starting point is 00:29:56 orbit because of how massive it is out there. But then you see the grain. I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Jupiter is fucking huge, kind of counteracting the sun or like acting as a little balance and then like you see how teeny tiny and minuscule even Jupiter is compared to the sun and it's like, how is it acting on us that strongly? It's like it's enormous. I think Jupiter is like one fifty thousandth the size of the sun or one.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It's a crazy comparison. But the sun is enormous. It's like an airsoft BB next to a beach ball. Yeah, Jupiter apparently cleans our solar system of a lot of debris that would have protected and protects us from a lot of inbound projectiles and such. They think that it came much closer to the sun and then went back out at some point.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And in doing so, it cleaned up a lot of the trash Saturn to Jupiter gets all the credit but Saturn's pretty big also That's true. Yeah, the the unsung hero of that. No Neptune's the cool one. Isn't that the one that's on its side? That's the one that plays by its own rules Yeah, I think that's the one they got hit. So goddamn It's either Neptune or Uranus is on their side. They rotate and over and instead of lately and the magnetic field is also on its side. I don't understand how a gas giant can get hit enough for it to change. Like I feel like unless it took a real blow to the middle because the middle of the gas giants
Starting point is 00:31:24 are solid. No. But like how would something passing through it? I don't know what's in the middle. I have watched so many videos on what it's like to travel to the middle of a gas giant. They're fascinating. And I still don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:38 A lot of conjecture. I'm getting really lost in this. Like, you know, like, is it hard in there? Is it soft in there? I don't understand how something can weigh so much without getting pressurized into a solid. But yeah, it's it because it's so hot. It's it's like the it's that thing about the the core of the earth and the and the center of the you know, is it solid or is it liquid? I think science has gone back and forth on that
Starting point is 00:32:01 one over time. Yeah, I just wonder what the heat signature is. It hotter as you get closer to the core and is the same thing true. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, the surface of the sun is not that hot. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, because I think you're a settling torches harder than the surface of the sun. I know that someone told me that I found it unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So I looked into it and it was true. Yeah, yeah. The universe is fun. I fell asleep last night watching cosmology videos about like hypothetical alien civilizations turning their sons into like rocket ships, basically like putting an enormous solar cell on one side of the sun and let, and flying your star to toward another star.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Then using that as your space travel. Like I love stuff like that. That's not cool. I wish you could learn in your sleep because my awake attention span can barely sit through NPC dialogue at this point. The idea of me succeeding in an academic environment is off the table. I get it. You want me to find your daughter next. Like, I'll get her. I was live streaming today and this kid kept talking and talking and talking. And I'm like, fuck this kid who keeps,
Starting point is 00:33:17 Chad, is there an option to kill this kid? And they're like, there is, there is, but you're the bad guy. We've decided, we're gonna murder this fucking talkative child. We hate him so much. We're going to murder the kid. That's understandable because I've realized some story issues, though,
Starting point is 00:33:32 because I'll say this in Baldur's Gate. If you kill some characters, you lose out on key items and rewards. It's like, oh, you let Alfeira die. Well, she won't be there in Act Two to give you those robes when you rescue her cousin. So I looked into it. And if you kill the there are three or four endings, I forget and killing the kid is one of them. And it is the shortest ending. And I'm like, I might need this. This
Starting point is 00:33:57 game I'm playing is so impossible. Okay. Securo. Have you heard of impossible? Yeah, I said he's having a possibility. And you did it in normal woody voice. This game is so impossibly. You're but you've moved into X cows wheelhouse now like you're in those obscure Asian ninja guiding games that are hard to play from soft
Starting point is 00:34:24 makes famously hard games and this is the hardest game they've ever made. And like, I did Dark Souls 3, a game that was supposed to be hard, but because I had this crippling Elden Ring addiction, I really rolled through a lot of it. So then I'm like, all right, apparently I'm good at games. Let's do this.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I changed my mind, I'm not good at games. This is so hard. This is so hard. It is hard to die to the same boss like 50 times in front of everybody. They're all telling me this is normal. Like, oh, what are you, I was stuck on this guy for six days.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Okay. I don't know, it's hard. Is it hard? Shadows die twice. That's OK. Yeah. Yeah, that's that sounds very frustrating. I can't play something that if I'm embarrassing, I don't think it's embarrassing at all because it's you're doing very, very hard.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Right. Like, that's the point. You're doing the equivalent of like one of those YouTube challenges where you try to get the bottle land on its bottom while dancing in a hula hoop or some shit. So it's just going to make the victory all that much more sweet, you know? There, I don't want to talk about gaming too much or at least about myself, but there are somebody playing a front soft game. There's the guy who's currently fighting a boss and that guy is like my Azaki. That's like like the Nikita from soft
Starting point is 00:35:48 Fucking suck. You're an idiot. You don't know how to make games. This isn't fair. Why does he have a bow? Why is it every time I get four and a half feet from this guy? He shoots me six times in the face How does he have a 13 foot lightning katana and I've got this fucking toothpick I'll somehow am I ever gonna win? And then the version of you that finally wins is like, oh my God, this is amazing. Does Miyazaki know I only paid $30 for this? This was such a bargain.
Starting point is 00:36:16 This is the greatest game to have ever been made and I may be the greatest gamer. Like that's what happens right after you beat the boss. Oh, it a flip switch. Yeah, it looks a lot like Elden Ring. Like that same boss. Like I just watched the clip of the boss. Like they do that same thing where they're like, oh, I'm putting my sword over my head, which means I'm going to attack exactly straightforward. And then they're like, no, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I came right at you. And then they there's a lot of that. One thing, though, is in Eld didn't, I came right at you. And then they fuck you up. There's a lot of that. The one thing though is in Elden Ring, when you dodge, you get I-frames, these invincible frames. And the solution to every problem is dodging, right? Oh, timing the attack and dodging, that's Elden Ring. In Sekiro, there are like four different actions you take
Starting point is 00:37:00 depending on what you're seeing and you don't have much time. Some attacks are like four per second. And I'm like at the, I'm redlining the tachometer on my brain, trying to keep up with the action that's happening in front of me and you just need practice. I guess. Well, I mean, you've conquered these very difficult games before, so I'm sure you'll do it again. Chad says I'm doing well. I think they're being nice.
Starting point is 00:37:25 So I don't know. Are you doing any consistent Baldur's Gate with scum still, Kyle? I haven't played with him in a couple of days, but I'm doing my own solo run, of course. You know, I'm saving the Shadowlands right now. Must be a good team. Are you in the fifth run? You're like, I got to run with the scum going.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I got a simultaneous solo run going, obviously, because of those times it comes unavailable. I can't like not play. Yeah, yeah. Keep it going. Now, I dig it a lot. I think I've beaten it six or seven times now because I beat it the other day. It's real fun. The reason I like it so much is it's like an onion that you can just,
Starting point is 00:38:09 if you peel the left side, now you can't peel the right this time. You got to play the game all over again to peel the right side. And then you peel the right side and you're like, oh my God, there's a bottom? I didn't know there was a bottom to the onion. And then like, I keep finding that. I thought I knew everything there was to know but If you're not careful like little NPCs will die and the goblins got her shit who cares I don't know who the fuck that is, but it turned out she was a big deal
Starting point is 00:38:35 She was gonna tell me a story later on that really they're really Like you get to act too and there's some bad guys that need dealing with But you never met these bad guys and they're voiced by JK Simmons So I kind of like them and there's a lot of listening in that game nazi in os uh yes yeah yeah he's like he's that really mean music teacher in that other movie yeah yeah he's in that he's like not my fucking tempo and it's like calm down join the army if you're gonna act this intense you're like telling people when to drum and when to toot on the horn. You fucking fruit. He's Omni-Man. He's Omni-Man too.
Starting point is 00:39:09 The toughest guy in the room full of theater kids. Just loving me. Like he's like, like four months into six months, noob gains lifting. And he's like, thinks he's he's Thor. That movie was so fucking gay. Yeah. The way he like acted as though it's like, do you think this is the, you, do you think this is the best way to get juice out of these oranges? You're squeezing these young minds that are brilliant. You're just being mean for-
Starting point is 00:39:32 Is this drum line? What movie are we talking about? So there's this movie where JK Simmons is like a drum music teacher and he is brutally cruel to his students. That's all I know. I've seen this clips of him being awful to them. But Taylor, tell me this. What are they training to be? And why is he, is he really such a big deal in like the drum
Starting point is 00:39:50 slash music world that he can get away with treating people like trash? Like, do they seek him out from afar to, for his tutelage? Like, is that the deal? There was some of that. But then if I recall correctly, and I watched it once and I was indignant by his behavior, so I didn't recall all of it, but he was someone who was renowned as a teacher, but I think hadn't lived up to expectations in his like professional composer kind of life. Like he kind of couldn't make it in the big leagues kind of guy, if I recall. There's a scene where the whole group of musicians is playing and he's like all right does the person that's off key want to step forward or do I need to continue? No? All right just the wood wins and he like breaks it down until he finds this kid who's like out of key
Starting point is 00:40:37 and just humiliates him in front of everybody and I think removes him and everything. I've seen the clips but I haven't seen the movie it looks it looks fun to me. I like JK him and everything. I've seen the clips, but I haven't seen the movie. It looks it looks fun to me I like JK Simmons being scary. I like him too, but it was just It was annoying to watch that because it was like he was such a douchebag to all these nerds who were just trying to Like be good at the oboe and it was like calm down. Nothing's at stake here Nothing is at stake This is wrong future here. Nothing is at stake. Drunk future, drunk future could be at stake. You know, like, like maybe he's going to get that big drumming contract for the bills.
Starting point is 00:41:15 He's going to be the drumming of Buffalo. Yeah. I know you told me that that journalist I linked you to was, was a Garbo journalist, but I do like the sentiment, the idea that those NHL players are paid in US dollars, but their organizations earn at Canadian dollars, which is not doing so hot. And so they're paying those huge contracts and it's putting the Canadian teams under a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Don't they do the same thing that the NFL does where there's like profit sharing, is that just on merch or oh That's not not like all ticket sales, and I don't know I know merch And I don't know I don't know how many of the sports leagues do this I I think the MLB does it and I think the NBA does it where? The big market teams and the small market teams all just split the merch money like evenly or something. Yeah, maybe that's just for merch. Never mind. Yeah, maybe it could hurt them. I hadn't considered the impact on the NHL. And if it's making...
Starting point is 00:42:15 Well, he's talking about taking those. So if you didn't hear the Canadians were going to... It's not a tariff. It's a duty, I think. All those things mean the same fucking thing. I hate that there's a duty, a tariff, a tax, and and a surcharge and I'm supposed to pretend like these are four different ways It's not handjob blowjob fucking penetration. These are all the same fucking things. You're fucking me the same way You're just calling it something different But the Canadians put some surcharge or something on some electricity coming in the US and they broke it down like this is going to cost 400 million dollars a day or
Starting point is 00:42:49 something. And each American electrical user average one hundred dollars more on their bill. And Trump raised the aluminum steel tariffs to 50 percent. Did that happen yet? Like how much of this has happened? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Exactly. Exactly. USA Today from one hour ago. That's the problem with our news cycle. They talk about plant. Someone will say, maybe this will happen. And then they'll report it as if it happened like it's law now and you get lost in the weeds on what's being, what's being threatened versus what's become law and what's been signed. It's tricky. Like we've decided to do this. It's written in stone, but it doesn't start for a month and decisions don't mean what they used to under
Starting point is 00:43:32 Trump because he'll bluff. So this, you telling me this Kyle was the first I'd heard of it. And the first article from an hour ago USA Today is electricity from Canada no longer under search, under surcharge, what to know after Tara flip flopping, the head of Premier Ontario of Ontario, Doug, you were 75 minutes out of date, how dare you? You were you were an hour out of date. In response, Ontario agreed. He said he had a productive conversation with US Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, and blah, blah,ah blah blah in response Ontario agreed to suspend its 25% surcharge on exports of electricity And so is it is it?
Starting point is 00:44:12 suspending if they never happened I don't know and then I watched an Instagram video I'm stressing that because it's a terrible source to get news, right? We all agree that's terrible. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah, it depends on the video. Well, this is a 20 something year old white guy who was explaining all the tariffs that Canada puts on America.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I tried to look into it. I think his numbers are right, but the story was incomplete because like Canada has a bunch of dairy things that they impose so that their dairy products stay in Canada. Like they protect the first portion of the dairy market. And then once their people are fine, then the tariff salts would go away.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Like they have to hit a threshold first, but the story didn't mention the threshold. And I feel poorly, it's complicated to understand and it changes constantly. Yeah. And our leaders certainly aren't using a scalpel in these negotiations or viewing things with nuance. So like we are spending more time and and allowing more nuance to these issues than the people making decisions that and that's that's a fact like like what you just said there like why actually oh okay you think Trump knows that he's like they're killing our dairy They're killing our dairy and hey, I look at it like this me and Chiz were looking at these numbers earlier today
Starting point is 00:45:31 We've got 50,000 US troops stationed in Germany another 55 in Japan 25,000 in South Korea We are keeping the world safe right now if the bad guys want to come over any borders We're the ones they're going to bump into. Canada's total army is like 26,000. California has a bigger armed forces than Canada does by far. It ain't even close. San Diego has more armed forces than... The city of San Diego is more armed than the country of Canada is. Isn't the NYPD bigger? So all of that, when you take all of that into scope, I just feel like Canada, when we do deals with them, should get the shit end of the stick,
Starting point is 00:46:12 not the fair end. I think that we're going above and beyond at, you know, keeping you all safe with our tax dollars. Maybe you should get the shit end of the stick when it comes to dairy. Maybe you don't take care of your people first. Maybe you take care of our people until we're complete. We got so much cheese, we're constipated. All right? You make every American constipated with cheap Canadian cheese at cut rate prices.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I have some numbers on, oh, I'm sorry. On Canada's military, because I was curious. I was like, is that right? Walsers. Canada, I don't understand what this means. They have 52,000 regular force members and 22,000 primary reserve numbers. OK, so reserves. I didn't read that carefully the first time. So they have 50,000 people in their army, which is smaller than I expected.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And it's one point three percent of the GDP, their military spending, which I think America gets mad when you're below two, you know, that that's like a minimum. So they're pretty well below two. I, I think you can fairly accuse them of getting to, there's this guns versus butter economic thing, right? And anyone who's played Civ understands this too, like it's fun to Sim City, this thing and build your universities and such
Starting point is 00:47:27 and not have a military, but then you leave yourself vulnerable. Well, we're over here investing heavily in our military while other people get to invest in their universities and their quality of life and their universal healthcare and all that fun stuff. And America is like, you know, life is hard over here being your protector, you need to give back a little.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like I get it, but I also get the Canadian side, brother. Like the fuck, you know, suddenly like you have a problem. The reason we, you have a deficit is that you prefer to import the oil that we get because you can't refine the oil that you get. That's if you take that away, then we don't have a deficit anymore. The I saw that the attack, the White House press secretary is like, I think a lot of Canadians would like to be American citizens. You look at the tax rates in Quebec and I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:48:19 She's like, if you're making one hundred fifty thousand dollars, your tax rate is 53 percent. They're taking more than half of your money away. And what are they doing with Frenchies? Those Frenchies? Mmm, they take that much money so they can have two signs for everything think of that the sign Over twice as many fucking Canadians are united they're like post 9-eleven over there. They hate us as a single force Well, I fear the wrath of the Canadian. I do. Aren't they our biggest trading partner? I don't know. I know for a fact. I know we're their biggest trading partner. By a huge margin. Like we're so much stronger than everybody when it comes to trade partners because of how big our consumer base is. Like we were so much stronger than everybody when it comes to trade
Starting point is 00:49:05 partners because of how big our consumer base is. Like we get to lean on people. And to Woody's point, like, like we have been like they've been like to use the Civ example, they've been playing greedy, you know, Canada and France and Germany. I got these resources. I'm going to put another nodule in my healthcare research. I'm going to expand this tech tree up the healthcare ladder again. Next turn, we'll put some in military. Next turn comes around, maybe one more over here in public education. Oh, some parks. We'll get to military eventually. Don't worry. We have an ally who's going to take care of everything. And so there's no incentive for us to invest in this. And it's like, yeah, we have been carrying way more than our fair share. And so it's fair to ask allies to carry their weight. Like we're the
Starting point is 00:49:54 backbone and the biceps of this entire Western world. Like, yeah, you got to carry your fair share. Doesn't mean we're not friends, boys. Love my Canadian brothers. You might have overspent on the military though, you know what I mean? Like we probably could have put in some of them some of the public schools and universities too. We could have, but see Dave, that's true. We have the nodules where our tech tree is also out of whack. You know, they've got full health care, but our health care is like we haven't even researched. We have space lasers. I'm like, we have space lasers and band-aids. Are the Republicans really going to cut social security and Medicare? Maybe. I don't think they just
Starting point is 00:50:28 passed it in the house. No, that was a continuing res spending resolution that might not. I don't know if they just passed in the house. I take it back. Now I'm unsure. Trump can do anything. It's his last. So but that's really like gay how they're attacking Medicaid or Medicare rather like I don't like that. Like there's a lot more you can ask. And it's also just, it's just bad optics and stupid, but I'm, I'm not like,
Starting point is 00:50:50 I feel ripped off. Like when I was 19, I was like, I do not want to be part of social security. I do not want to be part of Medicare. I would much rather invest this privately and, you know, be on my own. I'll get much better returns there. Now that all that time has passed I was right. That would have been a good decision but I wasn't allowed to. I was forced to
Starting point is 00:51:13 do it. But now and this is true literally I've been paying into this since I was 14 years old. Right? Like for 38 years I've been paying to this and they want to rug pull me right as I get by the finish line That's horse. Oh, that's right. You get stuck in your checks in a couple years. Oh, yeah. I'm right there That would be rough if you were where is an early option, I don't know what it is But anyway, you're part of that generation that didn't get their Social Security that'd be rough Right the first generation that it no. I mean, we wouldn't either. No, it'll last for the boomers. They'll just skip Woody. They'll get them.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Especially Taylor, because he's at, what are you in, you're 32? 33. 33? Yeah. 27. Yeah. So you've been paying into this. I don't know how much you worked as a child, but mostly from like for 15 years. That sucks, but it's not 38 years. Come on, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:08 You're right. And I wonder how the whole social security thing is going to end, because it kind of can't go forever. I had a smart person explain to me how Ponzi schemes work, and then he explained social security to me, and I was like, oh, so like an official seal is what makes this different. And the government go and trust me, trust me, Buster, we're going to keep it moving. And it's like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:52:35 eventually it's going to not work. Like, what do you mean? Like how our currencies are? I mean our whole financial system's built on a bunch of make believe and who's he what's it's. Yeah and a huge amount of it is just financial. Yes, we need a different fiat currency with cool graphics. A little magic block coin. Block coin? What the fuck am I saying? Blockchain?
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah. But there's scarcity built in to Bitcoin though. Right. Just like there is to the US dollar. Not. No, no, it's the opposite. I know, I'm joking. The opposite of the US dollar.
Starting point is 00:53:14 The literal, exact opposite. Yeah. I want to, that's, whatever. I don't want to go back to gold or anything or start putting silver bars in our basements. Right, like the US dollar had scarcity built into it. It was all on the gold standard and then the silver standard and then the trust me bro standard.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Like the cryptocurrency can't do that. When did we get off the gold standard? Was it officially Nixon in like 71? I want to, is that right? I have to Google it. No, it was, I thought it was before that. I thought there was like a lot of movements toward it in the early 19th century 20th century There was a time when they took everyone's going when was it that they confiscated all the gold?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Oh, that was was that FDR? Yeah, that was FDR. I think who Confiscated all the gold in America. Huge amounts of gold from Americans. That guy was like a lot less chill than people pretend he was. Can you imagine if Trump did that? We're coming for all the gold. Turn your pockets open, you funny hat wearing fucks. Now you pay.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Now you pay. Oh no, don't check that little bag I wear around my neck all the time. Don't check my Jew gold bag. This is, just as I suspected folks, full of coin clippings, full of them. Full of clippings. Full of clippings.
Starting point is 00:54:32 That's a good reference. This is a little history. Nobody knows this so far, but I do. I know you do. So, the Romans would issue fucking gold coins, right? And they were made of gold or silver or whatever This and this isn't just the Romans but everybody but you find you you find it in Roman coins You'll see little pizza slices cut out of little little chits taken out of the coin because it would still pass as currency
Starting point is 00:54:55 But now you got a little chunk of silver that you can You know so it's silver So like you see lots of the coins back then have those little little chunks taken out of nail clippers around That's why they added the the ridges So then they could go hey, that's smart. Yeah, that's What the ridges are for and so then that then some guy who got handed a denarii that had a clipped edge could go whoa You're trying to pay me off with something. That's not worth its weight Did you take this?
Starting point is 00:55:25 Did you clip this coin and then try and pass it off as a full piece of silver or whatever? And then that guy would get in trouble or, you know, follow it back. I don't know. But I mean, that is a huge issue. I imagine that was infuriating for Romans at the time. Just like, damn it, we came up with all this cool stuff and these fuckers won't play nice with our currency. They won't notice a little around the edge.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Just a little off the top. Treat it like a dick. Just a little off. What if you shrunk it by a millimeter and then rebuilt the ridges? I don't know. Then you've put more effort into it than you've earned in currency.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Well, in this fantasy, I have modern machinery that does that efficiently. Ah! Yeah. North Korea. North Korea is the biggest counterfeiter in the world. Apparently they make hundred dollar bills and they just. Well, if you do that, Woody,
Starting point is 00:56:15 what happens is Hadrian kicks you out of the empire. Damn it. He gets you out of it. I never thought of that. Oh, did you see Twitter was getting DDoSed? Yes. I heard about that. They think it's Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It's like, come on, Ukraine. How do you have resources? Oh, that's right. Ah, the money. Ah, the money. Yeah, just. Yeah, the thing is I don't believe Elon. So I don't know how much weight to put into this.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I can tell you almost every DDoS attack looks like it originates from Russia or North Korea. They might just fake words originating or that might be the routing. It's a pain in the ass. And also the people that, the computers that are attacking you aren't the ones who are mad at you.
Starting point is 00:57:00 They're just the ones that were taken over by someone who was mad at you. A DDoS real quick for people who don't know how it works. A denial of service attack is one in which I keep asking you questions, right? Now the goal is to ask you the question that is the most laborious to answer as possible. Taylor, what are the 50 states?
Starting point is 00:57:20 Taylor, what are the 50 states? Taylor, what are the 50 states? It's so easy for me to rattle off three of those, but for him to rattle off his 150, or possibly 153 answers, then it would take a long time. A distributed denial of tech service is that, but it's lots of people bombarding Taylor
Starting point is 00:57:39 with that question. And you can ask it so many times that you can't even ignore it fast enough. You just get over flooded with that question and it's not the people asking that are attacking you. It's some guy controlling me, making me pepper him with these long questions. A common one was back when I ran Woodycraft, what time is it? What time is it? Oh my God. They asked me, they would just bombard you. He was called an NPC service or something like that.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And they'd ask you what time it was because it was kind of time consuming to answer that question, to like, look it up and answer it perfectly. They just rip you with it. A little a little change of topic. Did you see the latest Biden controversy? No. What did he do? What's he doing? Is he still kicking?
Starting point is 00:58:27 It turns out he was using an auto pin for a lot of things. So auto pin. Yeah. So he wasn't signing those, those pardons, those executive orders, any number of things supposed to be breaking news on retard Island. So well, he was? Well the questions in the White House briefing room are does this delegitimize those pardons for example? If he didn't sign them, are those people really pardoned?
Starting point is 00:58:58 I don't think anything will come of it but like... Really? You don't think Trump might want to have his justice system look into some of those people that were pardoned like let's change. I mean, what is it? So if they prove that Biden didn't sign this stuff, they can just say, okay, yeah, then none of this is protected because you were basically just puppeteering a demented old man into signing things discount them, I guess. I don't know. You got the Mike Johnson about how he didn't know
Starting point is 00:59:28 about the liquid natural gas. Um, I always hate that story. Really? Here's why. Do you think Trump knows every executive order he signed or don't make it about Trump? Do you think every president knows every executive? I bet there's a whole lot of here, sir, sign this. Yeah. And I mean, even we all do it. I bet a handful of people watching this right now didn't read their lease agreement from front to back. I'm not giving him that one. Okay. Look, can you just tell me what it is? What order we're talking about? It was stopping the sale of American liquid natural gas, I think, to Europe.
Starting point is 01:00:08 During the time when we were pressuring Russia and to leave Ukraine alone, we're stopping the sale of liquid natural gas to our allies like Germany and who were buying Russian oil. Like we're subsidizing the enemy by and the name of environmentalism is what's going on in that moment. And so Mike Johnson, the speaker goes, he's like, I want to talk to the president. And they put him off for six weeks. And finally, he's like, look, I'm second in line to the presidency. He's got time. I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:00:38 public to the press. If you don't let me in there, they let him in there. And he says, Mr. President, could we speak privately? And then like, he's like, then all of a sudden everybody was clearly upset. They didn't want to be left alone, me to be left alone with him. And I asked him, Hey, why don't you turn off the liquid natural gas to our allies coming out of Louisiana, I think. And he's like, I didn't do that. Well, yeah, you did. I didn't do that. You signed an executive order. No, I didn't. Can I go out to your secretary, get the piece of paper where you signed it and show you? He's like, I sure went and got it, showed it to him. He had no idea that he
Starting point is 01:01:07 had signed that. And so his suggestion, what he's saying is that Biden was just being puppeted by that group of people who were in the room by Kamala Harris. And there were a couple of other people in the room whose names I don't recall. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think that's surprising. Like most of the stuff he did in his presidency was just whatever the kind of cabal of other powerful people wanted around him. That's one that makes a it's like while you're trying to win. Like we had an emperor has no close president for years. Like the media ran cover for him. I don't think it's the first time we've had that either. Yeah, Reagan we had that Reagan for sure and There may have been a Another one that's not immediately coming to me, but but but we've had that from time to time. It's it's regrettable
Starting point is 01:01:59 It is for the president to not like to know what he's signing well He should he should be like, what's this one? OK, right. I remember we talked about that. Like they should all be something he wants and not just blindly signed agreements. Yeah. But like on that spectrum of thinking the natural, like getting the natural gas thing wrong, like thinking of I forget what Biden thought it was like to study something when it was actually to restrict sales. But for someone to get something wrong on that level, I'm like, I wouldn't be shocked if every
Starting point is 01:02:30 president has a couple of those. Yeah, if that existed within a vacuum, I would agree with you. It's just that you've got Biden who, the reason he's not the president right now is because the vast majority of Americans noticed that he had dementia and they forced him out of the race. Like that also happened. Yeah, so I guarantee he had more and they forced him out of the race. Like that also happened. Yeah. So I guarantee he had more of those incidents than a normal president because like it was obvious for years he was just being puppeteered out there with his fucking Mr. Burns hands and his his demented eyes. Like not like demented like he was going to attack you demented like there's nothing going on. Let's end on a happy note though. Did you know what happened to Gene Hackman? He died. Do you hear how he died? Yeah, but I don't know how you're gonna spin this to happy. I'm not. That's because he's in heaven now, Woody. That's why. What happened was he's had
Starting point is 01:03:16 dementia for years and of course he wasn't public about that because he's Gene Hackman. He's been tired for years. He kept forgetting. Well, kept forgetting to tweet it out. And so his wife has been his caregiver during that time. She died of I believe some sort of cardiovascular thing. And someone also mentioned a virus that she had. So probably a combination of the two. She dies in the house, leaving him with no guardian. And so he piddled around the house for a week until he just succumbed to lack of his medication and probably water and food with the dog in the crate also dying. It's so sad.
Starting point is 01:03:53 They found the dog and the husband and the wife all dead and it didn't need to happen that way. If they had children who were looking at him, he has three kids, you know, if they had children looking at him or if they used his, I don't know, $30 million fortune to just pay for a caregiver to pop in once a week or something like that. It's just so awful. I can see why they probably didn't see that was necessary because his wife was in her early sixties. And so it's not like they were thinking like,
Starting point is 01:04:19 oh, this lady's going to drop dead anytime. Like I saw a picture of her. She was like a normal weight 62 Yeah, and so she was way younger and she was his primary caregiver And so like you don't hear from him for a week You're not thinking oh she had a catastrophic health failure and died and now he's dying on the ground You think like oh, I haven't heard from him a week. I should give him a call like I wonder how slowly she died like If i'm going hopefully I can make a call she died. Like if I'm going, hopefully I can make a call. She died. She was found in the bathroom, like actively taking her pills. Like, like I think to me that reads like, Oh, I don't feel well. Let me get to my medicine and then collapse
Starting point is 01:04:55 and die. Yeah. And then he like probably damn near starved to death by himself. A week later, almost 95. That's the beauty of dementia. That's why I don't worry when I'm lost in every video game or don't know which one of you is. Because I'm not the victim here. It's really everyone else who has to suffer. What it would really be is it would be like waking up
Starting point is 01:05:17 into a nightmare over and over and over and over, I feel like. Like you would just be in a constant, like you, maybe this is just catastrophizing it, but like I would imagine it's like, you know how if something like panicky happens to you, like, like I know Kyle, you get those panic attacks, like you get that horrible feeling in your chest and the, and the panic, but shortly your brain goes, we've been through this, we know what this is. What is the next step in procedure to get this alleviated? Yeah, my rational brain is underneath the snake brain
Starting point is 01:05:47 going, oh, easy, big fella. You're gonna ride this out. But if you didn't have that rational brain, you would just be like in that state of panic, like the whole time. Yeah, you'd just be scared and confused. How do we know the snake brain is so active? Maybe the snake brain's off too too and it's just like oh fire
Starting point is 01:06:07 It looks here in a frame We have to we can hope it was off that much what yeah I mean, you know people dementia usually look scared and sad like like and confused. I feel so bad about that I love Gene Hackman Anybody that's listening this go watch the unforgiven, if you want a great Gene Hackman movie. You get to see, he plays Little Bill. Dude, have you guys seen The Raid? Yeah, and The Raid too.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I have not. You've seen The Raid? And The Raid too. Tell me if we're talking about the same movie, because I didn't think it was, my chat has been leading on me to watch this movie. And again and again, I look it up and I'm like, this can't be the right movie.
Starting point is 01:06:53 There were more than one with Raid in the title. Like is everything in Indonesian? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yep, that's the one. And I'm like, okay, there's not like a dubbed one. They're like, no, read the subtitles. So Jackie and I are watching the raid together because trying to make my chat happy.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And in the beginning, we're like, this is so dumb. It's beyond, one guy in a hallway of like 19 bad guys who attack him one by one as each of them loses in a fair fight. And I'm like, what is happening here? This is very silly. And then like an hour into the movie, I turned to Jackie and I'm like, you're way more sucked into this than you ever thought you'd be. And she's like, Yes, I am I'm invested. I need to know what happens next. The premise of the movie is
Starting point is 01:07:42 there's this badass rookie cop who needs to get the bad guy from the top floor of a 17 story apartment building in which everyone in that apartment is essentially his minion, nearly everyone, and they are there to protect him. And you sort of go through like video game levels, like the first two floors they roll through easy as these like unaware commons.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And then you start hitting like minor bosses and bigger bosses and guys who also know Kung Fu. And by the time you're on like the seventh floor, you're like, fuck, this is getting heavy. Like, oh no, they put a hole in the ground to get to escape this situation, but they're down to, they lost a floor. Oh, that sucks.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And it- Do you want to see the American version? I liked it. Yeah, there's an American version. Yeah, that sucks. And it, do you wanna see the American version? I liked it. Yeah, there's an American version. Yeah, it's called Dread. Dread. Dread is the American version of the right. I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yeah, there's a lot of talk online about, this guy stole from that guy or whatever. But you know, one writing project begins long before production goes. And so they kind of overlap in a weird way, but Dread's the same shit. Dread's the same thing. Yous the same thing you're going here in a giant building going floor by floor at the top is the ultimate bad guy and played by my mom all played by
Starting point is 01:08:55 What's your name? Yeah, it's the evil queen from fucking Game of Thrones Lena Hetty. She's the she's the main bad guy and then Dread is judge red goes floor by floor taking out all the bad guys, murdering, killing, blowing shit up. It's got beautiful visuals because the drug that the bad guys are selling and using all the time slows time to their, it's called slow-mo, and so time goes,ly and beautiful and like heads are exploding during that yeah dreads the game super hot i love dread oh super hot's fun game uh but dread's great dread's better than the raid if you ask me i like the raid to me the raid has a has a good story but it's
Starting point is 01:09:37 really just like a great action movie like technically i think there's some long shots where there's like no cuts and they've got like a crazy action scene this goes on and on the cameras just following along. There were definitely parts where Jackie and I are like all right I get it like yeah whoever heard of an 11 minute fight scene. That is that is like a big Bollywood kind of thing to just like keep going and going and going. I've watched like, like there are there are movie accounts on Twitter that post like what are clearly copyrighted, enormous clips of movies.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And they're run by obviously guys in India because they'll post like Frodo and Sam about to destroy the ring and they'll be like Fro Frodo doing the necessary to save the middle of the earth. I mean. It's like, okay, like this guy doesn't know, but you'll see those and they'll sometimes post like Bollywood or like foreign films. And it'll be like nine and a half minutes of just like one guy in a turban with a sword
Starting point is 01:10:40 deflecting bullets from like an angry mob that always stands perfectly in a line. That's different. Sometimes in a tunnel. That's very different. So what the raid does is it's more like die hard on steroids. It's gunplay and kung fu, but it's grounded in reality, at least in the reality where action stars win. But the Bollywood stuff, they almost revel in the ridiculousness. I saw one where they're attacking a fortress, and so they bend an enormous palm tree over. They bend it, and then the guy gets on it, and they let it go, and he flies hundreds of meters into the compound and lands with a drop
Starting point is 01:11:20 kick onto the bad guy, and then he says a snarky thing, but then he starts dancing and like a music number begins and camels come out. And there I saw something so similar. I thought he was going to describe the same scene, but my guy landed in a crowd of bad guys. And then it starts to take on the one V 49 and he does great of course. But yeah, the thing about this movie's action scene, the raid was just how often like imagine one guy gets beaten down to the point that he's knocked out and can't move.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And then 13 seconds later, he's the best version of him jumping off two walls before landing a flying kick. That's like, are you tired or not? I don't know. It's like those characters like where it's like, are you tired or not? I don't know. It's like those characters where it's like, oh, now he just wants it more. So he'll continue to fight. The first six and a half minutes got him angry.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Yeah. I watched a very frustrating sci-fi movie called Sling Shot this week. And it's got Casey Affleck and what's his name that plays Morpheus, Lawrence Fishburne. And it's got Casey Affleck and what's his name that plays Morpheus, Lawrence Fishburne and it's got Frenchie from the boys. And there are three modern day astronauts going to like Saturn or a moon of Jupiter or something like that.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And it's like this. It's our current tech, so it's just stretching the limits. But they sleep for three months and then they wake up and like check on things and they sleep for three months and then they wake up and like check on things and they sleep for three months and they wake up and check on things and the sleeping drug is fucking with him. So he's sort of losing his mind and like Frenchie wants to call the mission off and Laurence Fishburne is like, we are a goat. And he's like, he's got a gun all of a sudden. You're like, why do you have a gun? He's like this mission is vital. He's like we are going we are not turning back and
Starting point is 01:13:07 And like there's sort of a mutiny brewing but it's mixed with that drug that they're taking to hibernate and there's the Casey Affleck is very confused through the Through the whole movie and he's having these flashbacks to the love he left on earth It was good and bad at the same time. I don't know if I'd recommend it, but I don't know. At the end, I was left feeling hollow, empty. Well, it was largely disliked by Google users. That would make sense. Passengers was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Not put this on the list. Jennifer Lawrence, Chris Pratt movie. It might be called The Passenger or Passengers or something close to that. Passengers. Passengers. So I watched that and I thought this movie was good. I was hoping it'd be great with that cast, but it was good. And then I watched the nerd writer
Starting point is 01:13:59 talk about how they should have done it. That hypothetical movie would have been great. What do you change? I guess he told the, I think he told the story from the other person's perspective. From the girl's perspective? I think so, yeah. And she slowly finds out that something's wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Right, like how things unfold and it turns into more of a horror type thing as she realizes the reality. I wanna send you the video. I also watched a movie last night, Like how things unfold and it turns into more of a horror type thing is she like that's reality I want to send you the video and I also watched a movie last night It's on plex called the king tide and it's about an isolated island community a fishing village modern-days and a baby Wash is assured that's just miraculous when you were near the baby your wounds heal you de-age The old lady with dementia heals and becomes vibrant. And so then they skip forward 10 years later
Starting point is 01:14:48 and this village has a little 10 year old girl that they, she's kind of their goddess, but she's also their prisoner. It was kind of neat too. Well, I think that's probably a wrap. It's about dinnertime, boys. All right, boys. PKN 551.

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