Painkiller Already - PKN 552

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, okay. Don't know the episode number, but welcome to PKN. It's not PK 743, but it's PKN 552. We were talking about geniuses before we started, and whether or not Kanye is. Yeah. What is a genius? I like what has Kanye done that that's a, that's impressive. Is it his writing of songs or is it his rapping of songs? Cause that's all he's ever done.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Well, as an expert on hip hop culture, that's something I'm widely recognized. Some people call me a genius for that. I do. He broke new ground. He had that one line that he drove a miracle whip cause it was mayonnaise colored. Okay, so that's a fun rap he wrote one time.
Starting point is 00:00:42 That's, you know, that he rap he wrote one time that that's That he might have written one time he got I'm saying is like yeah, yeah, I'm a huge Kanye fan That's why I'm googling Kanye's best songs just Just as a refresher it's not that I heard all these a thousand times. It's that I just need to remember Yeah, I'm not sure I'm sure I've heard all these need to remember. Uh, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm sure I've heard all these I just because of any sort. You know who doesn't say he's a genius?
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm going to foul his name up. Magnuson, the current best chess player on earth. Magnus Carlson. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Magnus Carlson. I've been watching. Oh, listen, I got into some YouTube chess videos and then YouTube is like this guy fucking wanks to YouTube chess videos.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Let's give him more, let's give him more until lock and load goes wild. If you listen to Magnus Carlsen talk about himself, he's like, smart maybe, but not genius. I just do a thing. To him, being the best chess player on the planet is a little like being the best wide receiver on the planet or a little the best quarterback. Like it it's really just getting hyper focused on a particular thing and really good at it.
Starting point is 00:01:52 He doesn't think that he's particularly smart outside of chess. He's not a great scientist. He's not a great engineer. He's not a computer programmer. He's just a player. That's what I was saying earlier. That's not genius. That like, like, you don't need to be good at everything.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I disagree. You just need an IQ above what? One hundred forty on a test. That's what the literal definition of a genius got to be higher than that. But I know it's not 100. Zach, fact check me. And so there are those guys who are like Renaissance men like Leonardo da Vinci, who's not just a good sculptor and not just a good painter and not just a good painter and not just a
Starting point is 00:02:25 good mathematician and not just a good inventor, but great at all of them. Not just great amongst his peers, but we still talk about that guy from hundreds of years ago because of his inventions, his paint, like all of the things he did. He was a renaissance man in that way. He did all of the things well. And I'm sure there's some people still like that, but Kanye ain't one of them. Kanye sells Nazi t-shirts. No, if we're in the genius conversation, Magnus Carlsen, I think Magnus Carlsen is absolutely a genius. And his answer to that question is even demonstrating that his social IQ is higher than Kanye's because he's, he's the one of the greatest.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm my understanding. I don't know the chess world, but it's like Bobby Fisher and that guy pause you on social IQ higher than Kanye's come on, believe it or not. Yes. We could reach such a standard. It was like even Magnus Carlson knows, like he is as much of like in this era of chess experts. It seems like a lot of them make a shit ton of their money through streaming and people watching them play chess, even more so than winning big tournaments. Like they get their names
Starting point is 00:03:36 day and the big tournaments and then they're streaming. Yeah. And like, cause I'll see it sometimes. Like if I open Twitch to watch an age of empires tournament, like I guess age of empires and chess are like slotted the same way and Twitch's interest, like strategy games. And so I'll see that and be like, Oh my God, this Japanese guy who's like eight rungs below or eight places below Magnus in the global standings has 37,000 people watching him play chess. This is insane.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And so Magnus knows like, he doesn't want to come off like, yeah, it's just something you're born with, or you're not. And I fortunately have it. And so he's being very gracious in his answer. But like, at the end of the day, a strategy game like chess is about ascertaining accurate predictive assumptions about a game at a glance, like you're predicting the future, weighing your opponent's likelihood, there's a lot of math involved, a lot of predicting the future, weighing your opponent's likelihood. There's a lot of math involved, a lot of calculations. And so just to be at the point that you can
Starting point is 00:04:29 do that best in the world, like it's not like his pattern recognition stops there. Like he could apply that to other things. I bet that guy could have found success anywhere on earth. He wanted to, because being the top chess player in the world, like, okay, maybe he couldn't be a good soccer player. I was going to say the, it probably sucks at basketball. He might not be a terrible basketball. He might not make a good accountant. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Like, I don't know. I don't know how chess, his mastery of chess is even expressed. I've seen him speak and he speaks well, though. I found it interesting that he can't beat his phone at chess. Did you watch the Rogan episode with him? I love seeing the highlights a lot of that. You know, back in the day, that was the big thing. I think the computer was called Deep Blue or something.
Starting point is 00:05:12 The first chess playing computer and that they were throwing up against the world's best, maybe that Russian guy Casparov or some shit. Yeah. But but yeah, I would I, I would, I would say he's definitely a genius. I bet if you tested him, but again, my definition is that 140 IQ thing, cause that's just how we define intelligence. Like I like to be the 140 is there a lot of people who think their IQ is about 140. I've tested one 50 IQ test and I guarantee you my IQ is not one 57. What kind of- Was it an internet one or a real one?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Of course it was an internet one. Okay, well that's nothing. If you get 157 on a real test. Oh, fuck, it also tells me what Hogwarts house I am. Why was it? Sick. I wasn't talking to the people about the people who took the internet test.
Starting point is 00:06:00 That's like those people on Facebook who are like, see, I'm in the 97th percentile. Right. Like, I get that. I'm talking about like Mensa tested like like our university tested geniuses who tested 140 on an official I guarantee formed by a Remember that George Costanza Situation where like someone comes and gives you that test and they watch you. Yeah, I'm talking about those guys Yeah, they're all proctored if they're real. But I guarantee if Magnus Carlsen sat down and took the Weschler adult intelligence scale, one of the renowned known ones, that dude's definitely over 140. Because so much of how
Starting point is 00:06:38 you calculate intelligence is extrapolating accurate conclusions from incomplete data sets and pattern recognition and things like that. And that is a lot of what chess is. Like he, it's hard to empathize with someone who's like 40 IQ points higher than you or 40 IQ points lower because their brain isn't just working the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's hard to hold a conversation with someone who's just outside your range. Exactly. And so like, if I'm talking to that, that like, 210 IQ bouncer who lives in Missouri, who has like the highest recorded IQ, and is just like, he's so smart. He's like, I don't want to do anything. I just want to, you know, be a bouncer, whatever. Is he a farmer too?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Maybe he's a farmer now, but like, if I were to talk to him I guarantee there was like philosophically he'd be trying to explain things to me and in his head he's like man I'm nailing this explanation but I just wouldn't have the requisite capacity to attach all the things he was saying well that might say something about look if you could argue that maybe if he had a 300 IQ then he could break down 200 IQ stuff for 100 IQ people. That's usually a good sign of someone who actually knows what they're talking about. That's something that they can reason and work out on their own.
Starting point is 00:07:53 That they can explain it to a five-year-old and the five-year-old will go, oh, so that's how a router works. I agree with that. There have been a handful of things that I thought I understood until I had to teach it. And I'm like, oh, so teaching it requires a better understanding that I have right now. I didn't see my holes until you asked me questions. Yeah, that guy is on the main point. I like there's no way Kanye is a genius. I think that's just a way of being like, wow, this guy revolutionized the music industry in one way or another. But if you sat that guy down, had him take an IQ test,
Starting point is 00:08:25 there's no way anyone would be, actually, no, we wouldn't be surprised by the results because it probably would be pretty unimpressive. But like Socrates was a genius, like people like that, not- My level for what I call a genius is different than yours. And it's, first of all, let me recognize the 140 thing, the official definition, cool. But now we're on the Woody's definition, which is different.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And I think that there's all kinds of different intelligence, right? There's people with empathetic intelligence that just blow me away. I don't wanna get into, there's a YouTuber I watch, he's a live streamer, and I see like people sniping at each other in his little ecosystem. And oh my gosh, the way he quickly like greases the slides
Starting point is 00:09:09 and gets everyone to get along again, acknowledges the hurt, moves on and stuff. Like this guy is managing his group of friends in a way that I could never. His EQ is just 1000% higher than mine. And I'm like, dude, that guy, is he, like that is a little bit of genius. I've seen LeBron James, they ask him about basketball
Starting point is 00:09:28 and the reporter asked kind of a snarky question, like what happened there? As sort of a, how did you foul up so bad? He gave a breakdown of where everybody was on the court for like a minute in a row, like this guy moved to here, this guy moved to there, by position, by number, by whatever, and laid out how it happened with the memory that I can't fathom having,
Starting point is 00:09:51 the way that he remembered how a play broke down, not random, but like a one-of-a-reporter asked about, and it's like, holy shit, he's a basketball genius. I don't know if LeBron would be a genius outside basketball, but in basketball, he's a genius. So my point is there are emotional geniuses, musical geniuses, basketball geniuses, chess geniuses that maybe you guys
Starting point is 00:10:13 wouldn't recognize as geniuses, but for me, they fit my definition. Yeah, I see what you're saying. I wouldn't put people like LeBron or Wayne Gretzky in the genius category, even when Gretzky was playing. People would be like, why can't you defend this guy? He's 12 years into his career, he's slow.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He's always in the right position. He's always in the right position. I can't be in the right position because I don't see the game five steps ahead the way he does. He consistently knows what everyone's going to do and he just thoughtlessly logs that and shows up in the right spot. But you don't carve out a little definition of hockey genius for him. It's an incredible skill set. But like when it comes to genius, I think of like,
Starting point is 00:10:55 I don't know, like, like inventors, engineers, maybe. I know Kyle did. I'm not sure if you did. Maybe it's because I think that guy is more uplifting. LeBlanc is also 6'6, 280. It's. Maybe it's because I think that guy's is more up. Bron is also six, six to 80. It's like, it's like, ah, man, it's good thing you're a genius. You'd have never cut it in the league. This Brock Lesnar is a genius. See, he just wills his body to be three times bigger than a normal man.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So smart. He gave himself cast iron pan hands. Smother of fucking ox with the The guy in Missouri though is the, I think he may be tested as the, he's got the highest IQ test score in the world, right? And I believe so. And he does nothing in Missouri on, I believe a farm. Maybe he is a farmer. Yeah. I thought he was a bouncer.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I thought that. I heard bouncer too. Now I'm going to Google it. Might be both or it might be just. Could be both. I have farmer in my head because I remembered that he was from Missouri Obviously cuz you're from there. I found it interesting that the smartest man in the world was from, Missouri Holy shit. I just googled the highest IQs in the world whom the Hong Kim Turdance towel
Starting point is 00:12:01 Something Vaughn savant and Christopher higher, Rata I'm like, dude, okay, I see a trend. Yeah, he's a horse rancher, a former bar- Christopher Langan. Oh, he was both, okay. He is 68 now, roughly. Just doing the math in my head. Why, where do we, come on, just tell me what his IQ was tested at.
Starting point is 00:12:23 The first thing I noticed is there were a lot of Asians on my list. The first thing I noticed is there were a lot of Asians on my list. The next thing I noticed, a lot of men. Yeah. I mean, that checks out. Why do you think men are so much better at everything? Like if it's arm wrestling, the answer is simple, right?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Why is it you can, you struggle to find a female chess player who's a because we because sent forever since before we were even people only the men who were good at a thing at least one thing got to pass their genes along. Whereas women all get to pass their genes on no matter what. I don't think that fits though right like us. Yeah you have twice as many female ancestors as you do male ancestors or something crazy like that. But that doesn't make the, like the kids of those two, like it doesn't matter like whether your mom or dad
Starting point is 00:13:19 was the smart one. Oh, I see your point. I see your point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure it contributes more. I mean, genetics are so complicated, but like if you, like a lot of men throughout history had no children whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Whereas the overwhelming majority of women have at least two kids or three kids. Yeah, but that doesn't, that is still like, you know, if your mom's dumb and your dad's smart, I don't think your odds are any better than if you do the inverse of that. Like we're talking about why this generation of men and every generation of men really achieve more. I have my own theory. My own theory is that something about men, whether it be culture or biology,
Starting point is 00:13:59 makes them more inclined to get hyper focused on a thing. Some dude who likes poker, right? And Kyle, correct me if I'm wrong. Men poker beat the fuck out of female poker players. That's the best poker players in the world are all men. There's there's a handful of women and it's a handful and they're not the best of the best. gets them autistically addicted to figuring out poker, figuring out chess, figuring out a lot of things. And that something about women, whether it be biological or cultural, has them more generalists.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Women kick our ass at school, right? Academically, the highest test scores are coming from girls. The highest tested group is Asian women. So it's not like they're doing poor in school, but once it comes time to really get the cream of the crop, it's all boys. I've read that the breakdown of the education thing is funny because I can't believe I didn't think of it earlier. I was reading where it's like all those stats you hear of women are so much more highly educated now. If you take a group of 10
Starting point is 00:15:01 women with a PhD in underwater basket weaving and compare it to a group of 10 men who have a master's in accounting or a master's in computer science, according to those tests, it's true. But like, that's how they look at it in those like, quote, analyses where it's like, oh, well, this guy with a master in computer science is the less educated than this woman with a PhD in English feminist history or some. I think it's cultural. I think it's cultural for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And also school is a lot about behaving and it's women are better at behaving. It's sitting down and doing what they're told. Yeah, yeah, it's a very pro-female environment. I think just to counter what Taylor said, I think if you look at high school achievements where it's not divided like the example you made, women still do much better.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And for that, cultural, biological, I'm not calling it, but something about girls just do better in a classroom. I think it's cultural. I think it's that thing I just said about sitting down and doing what you're told. If you remove every single other factor that's going to contribute to someone doing well in school and you just have them sit down and do what they're told, they will succeed. Like that's it. That is school. Sit down and do what you're told. Don't get distracted.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Don't be, but, and I just think that a 15 year old girl is way better at sitting down and doing what she's told. Because then you, if you were to make an, you make an environment hyper competitive, immediately it's men at the top, regardless of what it is. And if it's not about sitting down and doing what you're told and memorizing the bullet point list, you know, the applied knowledge part, men seem to do better as it could be men's brains are 10 to 15% larger on average. I also like, there's gotta be something to just like, that's true.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I don't, well, I'm a little bigger. So it, it checks out what made me, what the joke I was telling myself in my head was like, there goes Taylor on fucking supremacy. Once again, that's normal. And that is normal. And that is normal. You know, I think that's actually the best. Now that you say it that way, I think it's the best bit of evidence we have. I actually have a brain cavity the size of a large marine mammal. I have a really thin skull. It's better than it looks. No, most of this is jaw muscle than meat.
Starting point is 00:17:22 No, most of this is jaw muscle Get that squishy part like a whale on his temples Oh like those blue guys you were seeing like feed the blue guys and they'll like push down on the top I think they have a cavity of like a viscous oil in there that they use to resonate underwater like like sonar pings and it's like a sensor. They interpret the signals they're getting back via the vibrations in that oil in that cavity. Do you happen to know if they're sensing reflections like sonar or just other things around or
Starting point is 00:18:03 maybe both? I would guess both. But I thought of it like an eardrum, the way that like air vibrates and wiggles against our eardrum and it moves back and forth like a reverse speaker giving us that input that we interpret as sound. And then they've got that gooey thing in the middle of their forehead for underwater listening. I'm going to watch some Beluga whale videos tonight.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Dude, come to the Atlanta area and check them out. It's amazing. Dude, we we should do that. My chat is asking us asking us asking me about a live PKA and I'm like, I should just call a comedy club and put a feeler out there like like the one in Raleigh and just be like, look, I don't want something that's I don't want a stadium, right? a comedy club and put a feeler out there like like the one in Raleigh and just be like look I don't want something that's I don't want a stadium right I don't want an empty stadium that we're taking a bath you got 3,500 seats here so you're gonna want those ticket sales to step up sells a 35,000 season. You get MSG.
Starting point is 00:19:10 But I saw Hofstadter at the Raleigh Comedy Club and I was like, that's about the right size. I'll say it seats 120, I don't know. And I'm like, that could be right. They probably got an audio set. Like what if I just called them and said, do you do stuff like this? You know, I don't know. But then Kyle said Atlanta and I'm like, shit,
Starting point is 00:19:26 maybe there's a club in Atlanta that's, cause it's a bigger city than Raleigh. We meet our black fans. Ooh, they'll both be there. It'll be great. I don't know. I wouldn't think St. Louis just because outside of St. Louis it gets kind of rural.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Whereas I feel like one of the East Coast cities would pull more. Like Philly might be easier to fill than any of the cities I mentioned. We're getting hit with batteries up there. He wouldn't want to go and see Philly fan, of course. That's what we need to do an event for Philly fan. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:59 It'll be like the first road house with the chicken wire protecting us from the crowd. Oh yeah, Blues Brothers. Right? first roadhouse with the chicken wire protecting us from the crowd. Oh yeah, blues brothers. No, it's it's Roadhouse, right? The blind guitarist who holds the guitar sideways. They throw bottles at him and they just break on the chicken wire that protects him. I guess I'm the only one who gets this. But I have seen blues brothers and they have the band covered in chicken wire
Starting point is 00:20:21 and they they're a blues band, but they're pretending like they're a country, Western band and a country Western bar. And when they start playing blue shit, the crowd hails them with beer bottles. It's sugar glass, of course, but they're floating against the chicken chicken wire and spraying all over the band as they sing. And the only thing they know that's close to country and Western is writers on the store.
Starting point is 00:20:43 country and western is riders on the storm. I hate to bring it up on air, but like, yeah, maybe we could do a thing. My biggest fear is having a really empty location, like just bombing and yeah. Yeah, we'd have to do our due diligence. I like that. Yeah. I was trying to tailor about this the other day. I loved our paintball trips. I like when we tailor about this the other day. I loved our paintball trips. I like when we're there to do a thing. And so it's like a long side, another thing.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So if we do, like we always had good attendance to our paintball things. Like we brought 250 people, something like that. And it wasn't 250 people just showing up. It was 250 people dropping $100 scene plus travel. I got to find mine. I think mine were stolen by somebody. I got to look around. I like the idea of combining it with something. We could do a paintball thing and then, people have asked me, they're like, will you guys all get together physically and do a show, like not even an audience show, just like we do a trip. And then we like rent out a studio somewhere, which could really be a fucking Marriott. Like it doesn't
Starting point is 00:21:55 matter. You can set up like boom mics and shit anywhere and then just do a live show there, record it like when they in like a real radio style where each of us in the same room, which I feel like would be fun. Like that would be a good time. But then also it wouldn't be the whole trip was around doing that show. It would also be like, all right, we did the show last night, fucking paintball for the next two days or whatever the activity is. Paintball just because I know Kyle's addicted to it. And I have a feeling. What if we did ice hockey instead? Think that'd be more fun? I'd rather drop golf balls. I don't think Kyle would enjoy it. Oh no one's worried about Woody and paintball.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Everyone's like, suck it up, fucker. What? No, you're good at paintball. I have never noteworthy facial injury. We're getting you a big old mask this time. It's going to be perfect. You're going to look like dark helmet. The biggest mask. The best. That's true. I forgot about your trauma with it, but we'll just get, but in fairness, I was there on that trip and I remember, and I remember even seeing you go out to the field
Starting point is 00:22:57 and I was like, damn, that's a little mask. Like you're, there was like a half inch between the top of it and your hairline. You did look sleek. Fashion over function. You looked like, I remember thinking, I remember thinking you looked like a half inch between the top of it and your hairline. You did look sleek. Yeah. You looked like, I remember thinking, I remember thinking you looked like a mantis, like you had a mantis. Yeah, that was good gear we had is what was happening. Like, like, you know, it didn't get hurt.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Me and fucking a team art with the, the like finned visor, tipman free headsets that were gigantic on us. Yeah. Yeah. But you were more likely to get hit because you had a larger profile. Woody and I had professional tournament grade gear. That's what it is. The reason he got hit is because our gear is made for tournament players. And so it's very low profile and less protective
Starting point is 00:23:38 because you don't want a ball that would have otherwise missed you to hit some protective gear. Often people wear- Maybe the kind of person that uses that gear that would have otherwise missed you to hit some protective gear. Often people wear a- Maybe the kind of person that uses that gear sees it coming a little more than I do. I don't know. You never see it coming. The guy that shot you, point blank,
Starting point is 00:23:54 he was on our team, remember? Yeah, there was no way to avoid that. The most recent one. The scenario was, like, bad guys are over there outside the door. I went through the door to like rush him a little bit, didn't work out, and I was coming back back and the other guy pops out of the door and starts shooting immediately hits me in the forehead at like 18 inches away 12 inches
Starting point is 00:24:14 away something like that. I literally got like it bled there were shell pieces inside of his skin. I have it on film and I swear, Woody, I went last time we talked about this. I went through hours of that old film, like scrolling and clicking. And I'm like, this is the building. This is the building where it happened. I'm back in that building. They were like carnival type, like amusement type shit outside of it. And it was a bit like a barn with several rooms.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And then the enemy was outside and I was in the big room and you guys were in the little room. And I had, at the time I remember it happening and being like, I got that. I got that all on video, but for life, I mean, I can't. I'd love to see it. Here's how I remember it. I remember getting shot and acting stoically.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Like it was, okay, it hurts. I need to get this, like my wound tended to, but it's no big deal. But inside, I was simultaneously very mad at the person who accidentally shot me and I wanted to cry. That's how I felt. I hope you could tell. That's how I felt. I hope you could tell.
Starting point is 00:25:30 The guy, that dude with like the long dreadlocks that we bought weed from, he's like, what do you take your mask off? So I can tend to your room and you're like, no, it's fun. Leave it on. But I would have cried. I would have been, I would have been so mad at that like like 12 year old who just is that young. I don't remember who it was. I assumed this was even the different trip. This is the one where Filthy was there at the place that had the new town paintball thing.
Starting point is 00:25:58 This isn't the one in Joliet. You think it's a Joliet one? That one was a Joliet. That was a forehead shot. Totally different, but equally embarrassing. Not only did you get shot in the chin really badly and it bled and swell up and looked awful like the first day we were at the chronograph range with you and I and we'd never ever been shot with a paintball gun before.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And he's like, you know, how bad does it hurt? And I was like, we get it over with right now if you want. And I think I shot myself in the leg and he's like, sure. And I got shot him in the leg. And for whatever reason, it hurt him so much more than it hurt me. It was right away. It's bleeding right away. I was like, OK, it's no joke.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I was like, fuck, mine just bruised a little and it was kind of fun. Katie explained that they were very old paintballs, sort of unworthy of being used and they were hard. But we were at the chronograph range sending them not at people. That's what Kitty told me. I don't know much about it. They could be anything. She knows a lot about paintball shells can be weird.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You want them to be brittle, but you obviously don't want them to break in your gun. You want them to snap on but not but not bounce off the person So there's this in between and when the shells break they can be very sharp like a like a like a chicken egg Yeah, I'll cut you up. I remember we went to I hop or something like that afterwards I don't remember who was in the booth with us, but it was me you and somebody else and that waitress was like Hi, welcome to our hub. We got some specials this morning. Oh, Lord, honey.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Oh, Lord. I'm still not over the hurt feelings from this because I think he said it maliciously, but Eric farewell. He was our photographer for one of the trips, sees and goes, oh look at you you got fucked up It was like Alright, I think he's on the spectrum and maybe didn't mean anything by it. I Think at the time he operated in a place where like he thought he should have all the YouTube subscribers and that played into it I don't know. Oh, I think you said it to be mean.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I didn't know who Eric Farewell was. Aviator. I just remember about Aviator is Kyle being like visibly like, like annoyed and upset because like one morning he was like, you know, I was thinking I could knock out all the filming just in the first few hours today, and then I could hop in, start playing with you guys. And Kyle was like, no, no, you're here to film the event. Like that's why we brought you here to film. He was paid. He definitely expenses were even if he wasn't paid for the agreement, what like his expenses definitely were. But the only reason he was invited in the agreement was that he was going to film.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He was there for he was a cameraman. And and it was, you know, yeah, he said that. Yeah, it wasn't just me. We were like, no, no, you're here to film the event. It's big part of like the reason they have. They are they flew you here to film their event so that we will all have footage to promote their event. It's part of the quid pro quo of all the money they gave us.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, that was annoying. I just didn't like when he like screamed at the child though. That was the... Oh yeah. That was an air engagement. Yeah, screaming at the kid for shooting his camera in the middle as if it's like that's not gonna happen. You're playing paintball I don't remember. What do you what did he all say? He didn't just say he said Did he say he was gonna beat their fucking ass if he got shot again? It was it was like that Yeah, then I started
Starting point is 00:29:44 I never shot Shit and nobody you guys were shooting him. I never shot him. Well, he was being a piece of shit. You guys weren't. I was. He was like, one more kid shoots me. I'm going to whoop somebody's ass. I was like, eat one of those. Try beating my ass. I'm full of dry burgers and protein. Yeah. I don't know. Yelling at something like eight year old who's not even there for Arthur. You know, he's probably 14 or something. But you got to understand those people have come there and spent their actual money
Starting point is 00:30:14 and showed up somewhere. They didn't click a button on a cell phone. Like this is your biggest fan you'll ever meet. He spent a lot of money. He's had to convince his parents to bring him here. So let's not send him back to his mom with a bad, sad story. Let's not have him remember this the rest of his life in a sad light. I'd like him to think about me in 10 years and think, yeah, that was really nice. That time not that one.
Starting point is 00:30:37 YouTube tried to beat me up. Yeah. When I was a little kid, I met my hero and their cameraman beat me up. I was trying to play with my favorite YouTuber Woody's camera tag and his cameraman called me a p-p-p-pussy. That would be so devastating for that poor kid. No, that'd be fun. Or that golf thing that you keep talking about.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like I'd embarrass the shit out of myself. The X-Golf rules. I'd give it all I had. I'd swing hard. I'd embarrass everyone else there. See? That's because of the racial epithets. Dude, I'm showing up in a full golfing outfit.
Starting point is 00:31:18 You don't even know. I got a caddy. Oh, that would be so fucking funny if you brought a caddy. I got the hat with a little ball on it. My caddy's like, he's an old, he's about 45, he's got gray hair, and he's gonna help me like read the lie. I don't know, I'm thinking a seven, I gotta really goose it up for a seven. Give me, let's chip it in. Give me the nine. All right, boss.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I wanna have a whole conversation. Really ruin everyone else's time. It's a Venezuelan guy. You gotta let Lowe's like 20 minutes earlier. He's smoking cigars the whole time indoors. I'm great at golf. I mean, I've never done it. We don't know how good I am.
Starting point is 00:32:02 That's true. All you guys, I mean, you guys are athletic enough that you would pick up the swing reasonably. Like Kyle, you played baseball and Woody does a billion things. It's a completely different swing. Um, I, I haven't hit a golf ball since I was a kid. And all I remember about that was that it seemed like if I tried hard, I would either slice it or miss it But if I completely relaxed and let the club do all the work it it seemed like I could kind of hit it straight and far
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah, but I only hit balls what we did what we actually did went to the driving range occasionally But I went to a pawn shop and bought a whole bag of Clubs and then I stole a couple bags of balls from the driving range and we go out in the field and just knock the shit out of them all the time. We'd make our own little redneck golf course. That's fun. Yeah, like you can, you do better with golf, at least if you're new. Like if you're really good, you can hammer it and you're like staying in the right form the whole time. But if you're new, like it helps a lot to just do exactly what you said, which is like, I'm just going to focus on swinging it the right way and this like carbon fiber
Starting point is 00:33:09 Super bouncy steel is gonna do most of the work. And so I'm not gonna try and crush it I'm just gonna try and get it to go straight. I've heard That in golf taking chances rarely pays off Like if you can get there in two strokes or get there in one probably two is the smart move move. You're overestimating your talents. Oh, do you want to hook it around a tree? You should probably lay it up and then hit it again. And I'm like, how do people get better if they make conservative choices all the time? They try for those difficult shots and fuck up a lot and then eventually get to the point where they, cause like that's how
Starting point is 00:33:45 my dad will never be that good yeah like like my dad will golf exactly the way you said sometimes where he's like you know oh the smart move like taylor you hit it you know we're near the front of the fairway you hit it that way and then you can hit it left towards the green i'm gonna hit it like around this tree over a big patch of rough and the cart path where and over the sand bunker, where if he missed it would be like catastrophic where it'd be like he's now hitting out of the sand. But he's not missing. He's like, he's slicing it correctly around it. And so it's like, oh, okay. So this is like what it's like to get better at it. My brothers could do that to a lesser extent. I'm far and away the worst golfer in my family. I don't do it. You know, my son as much as they do. Disc golf might be fun too. I'd try it. I know. No, I'm less confident in real golf. I've done it a lot. It's, it's, it's not fun. It really isn't.
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's I've done it a lot there. I didn't know it going in. But there's, there's different discs for different things. There's a dry one, please Yeah, I we had a you know, I've got all these things. I mean, they're not mine, but I bought them I Had the the disc capture thing the metal pole with the chains and shit in the backyard and and Played and went to a couple courses and I hate it. I hate it so much more than golf would golf. I would rather play golf. I would much rather play around the golf in front of people than I know enough about golf that I could tell
Starting point is 00:35:18 you if your swing was wrong, but I wouldn't know enough to help you fully fix it. You often like the cue they give you to make it better. The key term doesn't ring a bell. There's a term for the tip they give. That's like, you know, to make you adjust properly. I don't know what it is. If you have like shoulders back, something like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Or like imagine there's a pole on your spine, straighten it or something like that. Imagine you had to do this or at the end of your stroke, you know, you should balance like a waitress. I don't know what it is, but they look at that way when you're done. Yeah. Yeah. I've gotten like riding a motorcycle. They're like, you should be looking over there during this part. It's like that helps so much. It's like, oh, I should be, I was looking over here. Like one thing I'm like, and really you can get serviceable enough to have fun at golf with just remembering a few things.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Like if you have some good guy there, who's like, hey, that right arm, you know, or left arm, whatever handed you are, like keep it straight. Not like crazy straight, like you're avoiding any bend at all, but just remember like that one's got to stay straight to keep your distance to the ball consistent. And then if you top it, which is something I used to do too often, which is like you come down to hit the ball and instead of hitting it with the meat of your club, you're like
Starting point is 00:36:34 hitting it off the bottom and you're like topping it. And then it like spins down and bounces off the grass and looks very unimpressive. I have like a good golf friend there. He's like, it's cause you're lifting your head up, which is like the new that's the new thing to do in golf is you want to see immediately where your golf ball goes. And so as you're swinging, you're looking up to see it. And that causes the club to pull back. And now you're not hitting it right. And so he's like, just
Starting point is 00:36:57 keep your head down. After you hit it, you can look for it. But just keep your head down so that you're like in a static position. And it's crazy. I'm not a golfer but I've watched you know things and apparently the follow-through is really important. From a physics perspective you'll never convince me that what happens after the ball leaves the club matters but somehow it really matters. Yeah it apparently I think it matters because if your follow-through isn't correct it because if your follow through isn't correct,
Starting point is 00:37:25 it means that your initial swing wasn't correct because it should finish the same way every time if you're doing it right. But I, I fuck up swings all the time. And that's why X golf was so great for me is like, if I just beefed one up and ruined the hit, well, it hits the tarp and then it rolls into the little ball catcher. And then I hit a button, a new ball is rolled out, automatically goes to the little silicone tee, raises it for me. And so I haven't even bent over and I get to hit again. And it's like, whereas if you do that in real golf,
Starting point is 00:38:01 it's like, oh fuck, I just sliced that onto the seventh pole. We're on the third hole. Now I got to go make friends over there. Well, really, it's like you're walking over there and like you just feel like a fucking fool because you're like, hey, guys, just looking for my ball. And they're like, oh, wow. Way over here. On the. From yesterday, though, yesterday. but yesterday was Friday. You played Friday? Yeah, yeah, I came on Friday. Hey, weren't they changing the greens yesterday? Yeah, I played around them. I played around those guys. Can I just
Starting point is 00:38:36 get to the ball there? Don't worry. Now that I'm in your area, I have to hit it back to my hole, which means I have to avoid the lane of trees that they've planted in between the holes Like a Tim Robinson sketch from that. What's this? What's his Netflix? I think you should leave I think you should leave do the hat sketch I watched the hat sketch every single day and every time I and I show it to people they don't laugh and it's it like
Starting point is 00:39:01 Makes me feel bad, but I don't care because it's fucking hilarious. The premise is that some people unloaded some stock and so now their text messages are being read in court. In between the pertinent legal information is the employees trashing and making fun of a federal employee who's present in the courtroom and so they'll be like hey Did you unlock unload the Qualcomm stock? Yes? We're good about to be way better great Did you see I was Allen's hat it's fucking pathetic What even is it? I don't know if they get some fedora safari with safari flaps. He's wearing it everywhere. I know it's so
Starting point is 00:39:47 Goddamn pathetic. You know what I saw yesterday. He has two little cubes in his pocket I think he has dice and he's too afraid to tell anyone And they cut to him in the courtroom He's like sneaking the dice out of his pocket Kick him to some other guy kicking them away to try to and some other guys You keep those fucking guys like kicking them back at him And it's so mean the story goes on and on and on about how the boss made tried to make him remove the hat Stocked by 3 p.m. Today because it's only to get worse tomorrow based on what I'm hearing from the inside.
Starting point is 00:40:26 By the way, Brian is still wearing that fucking hat standing by the water cooler waiting for someone to ask about it. Wow, what an idiot. Mr. Johnson made him remove it in the meeting today. He put his head in his hands and you could tell he was crying. He was sitting in the courtroom and was was like, I wasn't even crying. Mr. Johnson said, if anyone says things you should wear it, then you can. Nobody said shit, dog. Nobody said shit. Anyway, we're all good on the Qualcomm stock.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Dollar signs. Dude, that show has so many funny little sketches. It's rare you find a good sketch show that like is more hit than miss. And that one is definitely... Let me take a video of you saying you'll kill the president. Yeah, let me take a video. Well, I need to know you're not going to tell anyone about me housing Dylan's burger. Don't worry. Nobody will ever see the video. I never hear about the professor housing Dylan's burger at TGI Friday. And I like how it's the same formula is like
Starting point is 00:41:33 Tim and Eric. If you ever watched old Tim and Eric, where a lot of their funniest actors were people who had like only done like stock photo work in the past. Like people who had never read for lines ever. And so they start reading for lines and it's so jarring and bad that it adds another element to the funny. And so that's, I don't think either of you watched Tim and Eric really, that may be more my area. You only caught a little bit of it.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, the thing with the Tim Robinson sketches is usually there's one guy who is acting completely absurdly and incorrectly. And that'll be about how everyone deals with him. Like the hot dog man, a hot dog shaped car crashes into a store nearly killing everyone, destroying the whole store. And everybody's trying to figure out what happened in the dust in the mayhem and we're looking around said who did this? Who was driving the car and you look to your left and Tim Robinson's goes? Yeah I was driving that car and he's wearing a giant hot dog costume And you know it goes on like that for a while and then sometimes the bit will be that someone's acting ridiculously, but everyone accepts that and turns on the one normal guy, like with the shit on the receipt one, where they're
Starting point is 00:42:54 like, if there's no shit on the receipt, then you let my wife eat that receipt. You let my wife eat that receipt right now. It's so funny. So if you haven't watched, I think you should now. It's so so funny. So you haven't watched I think you should leave it's on Netflix and it's rare that I recommend a sketch show but enough of them have gotten a real laugh out of me that I recommend that one. I like it. I'm glad you like it too Kyle. If you like that style of absurdist sketch like you would like old Tim and Eric. It's probably so. Yeah it's real good. It's very- Probably so.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah, it's real good. He's got a movie, I think it's called Friendship or Friends with maybe Paul Rudd is his co-star. So the premise is that he really wants to be Paul Rudd's friend, but Paul Rudd doesn't want him as a friend and it's played as like a dark comedy. It looks like it could turn into a serial killer type thing very easily. I'm going to watch that. If you're looking for like a dark horror kind of show
Starting point is 00:43:53 in that same style, look up and you probably have this on Hulu or Netflix just in there, Tim and Eric Bedtime Stories is like a mini series they did where it's like obviously sketch. So like anthology, but it's not fully sketch. It's like, I guess anthology is a better word because every episode is like normal episode for a show, but it's like a whole story and not broken down into like 10 to two minute sketches or whatever. Standalones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. It's like standalones and like some of them are are like on like genuinely like almost upsetting because they're they're so so rough yeah so tim and eric bedtime stories uh that's a great get get stoned off your ass and watch that i'll check that out i i'll tell you what i watched this week that was amazing though was the season finale of invincible i thought it was it was the best episode i'd seen in a long time They have So the the guy who voices invincible is the same actor who voices Glenn in The Walking Dead
Starting point is 00:45:00 Who had his brain smashed in by Negan in The Walking Dead? So who did they get to voice the bad guy? But Negan they got Jeffrey Dean Morgan to be the voice of Conquest. And Conquest is the scariest guy we've ever seen. There's this moment when they're fighting and he had Conquest whispers to Invincible. He's like, I'm so lonely. I don't have any friends. Everyone's afraid of me. I don't Conquest. I don't even have a name, just a purpose." And then he
Starting point is 00:45:28 leans in even closer and he goes, take it to your grave. And he starts choking the life out of him. It was... He says that he's like, they send me from planet to planet to destroy planets and prepare them for invasion. The more I do it, the better I get at it. And the better I get, the less they wanna be with me. And it's like, oh shit, this is just a cycle. I get lonelier and lonelier as I conquer planet after planet. I'm so lonely. Take it to your grave.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's like, holy shit, this guy is just a wrecking machine. And he's built like Brock Lesnar with his cake top arm Yeah, an old guy. He's well the older they get the stronger they get so like he's he's the oldest and the strongest guy we've seen yet I Is a bit of a spoiler Kyle were you expecting Omni man to show up? No, I don't know what, not no, but I didn't know what was going to happen at all. Last we heard Omni-Man had freed himself from the prison
Starting point is 00:46:33 and he's on his way to earth. He said that he misses his wife, so presumably he's coming. And now, like, this is gonna ruin the last episode. If you guys haven't seen it yet, you might lost your head. Spoilers, but this guy, Omni-Man, has two kids. One's Mark, who's like 20 now, something like that. And you know, an adult, strong, fighting,
Starting point is 00:46:56 but not like at his peak yet. They get better as they get older. And the other woman was like an insect and they only live like 18 months. So her genes combined with these basically immortal genes has this three year old looking like he's 14 already deep into puberty. Totally has his powers, but also he's young. It's hard to put a age on him, you know, kind of because of the genetic cocktail
Starting point is 00:47:24 we've never seen. He's emotionally 12. He's physically the most powerful thing you can imagine. And anyway, all season long, their mom, because the the human mom is raising the purple child who's part insect, but he looks just like a purple human. And all the time they're like, you cannot do this. You can't do this. You need to start with little people, this or that.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And Mark is getting his ass kicked. He's gonna die. By the way, he's getting his ass kicked on global television. That's how mom and everybody knows. It's happening on TV. This is a big deal. It's bad. Like they're throwing a bill.
Starting point is 00:48:01 There were 1500 9-elevens that day. Like they're just smashing this guy were 1500 9-elevens that day like he and they're just smashing this guy through skyscrapers and shit and the the brother is like oh he's gonna die i have to save him and you expect mom to say what she said all year long no you're not ready she goes keep your distance move fast keep your head up don't let him grab you Don't let him grab you. Don't let him grab you. And you're like, Holy fuck, this time's different. Mom sending this like child in there because she's losing her other kid. Like there's no choice here. Like the whole planet's going down. If this doesn't turn around, I'm crying. Is Mark the main protagonist? Yeah. Yeah. This his other name is invincible.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Not so much, I guess. Because it seems like Conquest is the real Invincible. Well, so far so good! So far so good, yeah, yeah. Mark gets in this fight where, by the end of it, all of his limbs except for one of his legs have compound fractures, the bones are sticking out, and his limbs are ruined. So he starts headbutting the guy. And then like at one point he bites a hunk out of him. Like this guy like like almost tears his little brother.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It was such a good fight. And I had not felt that kind of anxiety watching a show since the last time Negan was on my TV about to kill one of my favorite hero when he had Rick and he was telling Rick to cut his hand off with a hatchet, that's the last time I got sick to my stomach from anxiety watching a TV show. I started dinner at the beginning of Invincible. I had like my fucking chicken and rice and shit in a plate and I am like, all right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I didn't eat that shit. I lost my appetite 10 minutes into that episode when he starts ripping Mark's little brother apart He's like first you feel your vertebra vertebrae separate then the skin begins to tear and the little kids like Like his neck and his feet pulling him apart yeah above his head he ripped the bug child apart almost Not food. I think Mark saved him they um I'm trying to think where was I gonna say? There's, oh, through 80% of the fight, Conquest is winning.
Starting point is 00:50:11 But there's a moment, like 1.30, and where Mark is doing better. And he's like, you still think you're gonna win this? And Conquest is like, I like my chances. And then, of course, he like turns up his enthusiasm and starts winning and beating the fuck out of Mark. At the very end, when Mark has the upper hand, he has no hands working,
Starting point is 00:50:35 he has one leg working as Kyle mentioned, but he's got the guy in full mountain, Conquest is like defeated. And he's like, you know, are you still having a good time in conquest it might be his final words was like you take the good with the bad and then mark head butson until his face opens up like a butterfly's wings and you can just sort of see a tongue lolling out going like there are no eyes or nose the face is is just open like a, like a, like a,
Starting point is 00:51:06 like a conquest is alive. Rex might be alive. You didn't watch the end of the episode conquest is alive. You should go back and watch the credits. Maybe, maybe he's still alive after getting his head destroyed. So our friend at the Pentagon took conquest and put him in an underground chamber and encased in some sort of adamantium steel with just his ruined face sticking out and he's like when he wakes up we'll have some questions for him He's like he has him and honestly my girlfriend was like what are they doing? That guy was so scary and i'm like, I don't know that looked like a good containment system They really it looked like they had him over a bunch of melty stuff
Starting point is 00:51:44 And then they had him encased in like what just his ruined head sticking out of some sort of... Yeah, it'll probably pan out. I don't understand that. This guy Cecil has a successful track record of taking bad assets and making them good ones. Walton Goggins. I yeah, I tend to agree with Taylor like yeah that'll work. Yeah. But he's never failed yet. So I don't know. Yeah, no good. Well, how is he gonna get answers with them if his whole head is destroyed? So many characters in this show, he'll get better, they heal.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Oh, they heal. So many characters in this show have been dead that come back. You know, they're just completely, I saw one guy take a bullet to the brain who doesn't have super healing. He's fine. Oh. Which one?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Rex. Rex? Oh, I think he, I don't know what Rex's deal is. I should do some googling You know what? I am gonna do I've been looking at how to read the comics because that episode sold me I want to read the whole thing It was a little hard to get information because because I'm not sure if I want physical copies But it seems like the best way to do the physical copies They make these hardbound books and I think then you only need like 10 books to get the entire
Starting point is 00:52:48 saga. They're like, so it's done. Like the stories started, I think in 2013 and went to 20 or like 2003 to 2018 or something. It went for a long time, but it's all finished now it's all out. And there's four or five seasons or sagas. Again, it was a little hard to figure out online, but you can watch it all for free. Excuse me. Read it all for free if you want in a number of different ways. I know you can log into your local library's website and then use that to log into Amazon's Amazon has a service for comics. But then fish, of course, just found a zip file. Oh, well, I think you found the easiest way to read it.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah. And I mean, it's a graphic novel or a comic book, right? So like 10 of those books is going to be like what, like two days? You'll just tear through it. I've never been a graphic novel or comic person. I genuinely have no idea what a page of it looks like. I am interested in the art and I saw that there was, I think there's a service that is for reading comics online and it does a good job of not spoiling the next page to
Starting point is 00:53:58 you because that would be my problem with like a fold out book is my eye would wander to the right page and like over here the bad guy is choking the Hero and something is about to happen the hero will die or he will kick the bad guy off of him But my eye wanders to page two and I say oh my god, they do kill the hero and it's like That I hate that so I'm looking for a way to read them effect You might like it on sorry. I went through this experience with walking dead I got into it enough that I wanted to read the comic and this site I just scrolled down. So the thing that you're worried about doesn't really happen.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Like the, the, the pick the page, takes up your page and then you scroll to the next one. Does it take like no time to roll through? It took me longer. Yeah. I disagree with you. I found that the nature of a comic didn't allow for quick reading. Like even you, who's a very quick reader,
Starting point is 00:54:48 might be slowed down by the way it's organized. Okay. And also like you're like, you're probably wanting to pause a lot and like enjoy the art. Cause if you're really into comics, like you don't want it to be like a book, like you kind of want to dwell on all the different cells and in action photos Yeah, and then in walking dead there was little translation like oh, okay, so this character Is it Andrea her name the one we all hated on the show?
Starting point is 00:55:16 I remember that she's much more likable in the in the comic and I'm like, okay So when I read her I should be thinking Michonne Season eight not Andrea season three. And so I had like some translation to do. Yeah, I think invincible does a better job of being shot for shot. Really similar or that's what fish. I don't know. He said it's pretty similar so far.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And the draw because they're both animated, obviously, whereas with Walking Dead, you had seen the live action mostly, and then you're going to the comics. It's two animation styles that also match up, you know, the the show and the comics look the same so the characters look exactly the way they're supposed to look so you're going to be able to internally voice them with Uh the the actor's voices, which I think will be fun reading through great story. I like like fucking Man, i'm so invested in invincible and his family his At the end of the episode like Conquest was so scary that I didn't feel safe after he was gone
Starting point is 00:56:09 What's your favorite like I don't know thing that happened invincible and I have one I can go first if it in the end all of it or in the recent episode all of it. Um Some of the stuff with Seth Rogen's character saving Omni-Man was pretty cool. I like that a lot. I didn't know that was him. Yeah, he's the one-eyed alien. That's Seth Rogen. But he might have producer credits. I'm not sure. He does on some other stuff. But when Omni-Man went through that portal in season one, I think. That's mine. Taylor, there are these aliens who want to conquer Earth and they're from another dimension where time moves much faster. And so when they come through and they're kicking our asses, but they start aging real
Starting point is 00:56:51 quick or maybe move slower where they are, something like that, it doesn't matter. And so they go back to their portals and when they come back like a week later, it's been a hundred years for them. Like it's their entire species goal to take us over. But for us, it's just the flavor of the week we whoop their ass when they show up. Well, Omni-Man finally like shows up. Can I jump in? Because there's more. So they come back with anti-aging technology, right? So for them, they've advanced their tech a whole lot and things are better. And they're like some teenage superheroes, not the A-Team, that are fighting them, including Invincible, who's new to this gig. He's not good at fighting yet. And his friends are struggling, then Invincible
Starting point is 00:57:31 joins and they do better. And it's like, all right, all right, so Invincible is better than all the other teenage superheroes. Okay, noted. Then they come back. Now it's not so easy, but they're filled with confidence and they manage to barely win. The third time, the genius teenaged robot person is like, we can't win this. They're overwhelming us. We're screwed. And all the teenagers are like, yeah, we're going to be fine. We've beaten them twice already. What's so hard?
Starting point is 00:57:59 They are losing. It is problematic. Our heroes, the ones that we've grown attached to are on the ground getting pounded, beaten, whatever. And all this time they've been taking licks, right? As Omni-Man, I'm sorry, as Invincible learns to fight, no one's saving him. He's like surviving by the skin of his teeth. And our superheroes are fucking doomed.
Starting point is 00:58:22 These guys are getting the best of them. And then Omni-Man shows up and shows the power scale difference between these kids and himself. And he's just like, it makes me think of that scene in Superman when what's his name? General Zod fucks with Superman's mom. And he's like, he grabs him by the fucking neck, pulls him like 150 miles through cornfields, through silos, through buildings, through a fucking fuel tractor trailer thing exploding
Starting point is 00:58:54 all the time. He's punching him in the face going, you think you can hit my mom and get away with it? And he's just so mad. This is what Omni-Man does. He's like, you cannot do this to my planet. This is earth and it's under my protection. So they all start running and they're escaping through the portals. And I'm like, all right, so that's it. They're chased off, right? No. Omni man goes through the portal to this other place where they age crazy and like the whole time scale is different. And invincible goes back.
Starting point is 00:59:27 He knows. His mom and Omni man's wife, like dad's gone. Dad's gone. We got into trouble and like, it's not good. And she's like. He got pulled into another dimension. Yeah. What time moves different.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And she goes, oh. Yeah. And she's like, oh. Guess I'll be late for dinner. Yeah, I don't know. What time moves different. And she goes, oh. And she's like, yeah. And she's like, oh. I guess I'll be late for dinner. Yeah, I guess I'll be late for dinner. She's unconcerned. And she explains to Invincible who's been sheltered from his father's activities all this time, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:55 I was worried about that other thing that happened, but having to go to another galaxy and destroy a planet, that's just a Tuesday. And then they flash to him. 50,000 nine 11's that day. He's just destroying the entire population, every building, making the rubble bounce their buildings at about, I don't know, a couple hundred feet altitude, but he's going so fast Taylor that everything he hits explodes like a bomb hit
Starting point is 01:00:24 it. And he doesn't stop or slow down. At freefall speed. He just keeps going and just ruins their planet. The whole planet. That's kind of on him. Why was he letting the B team fight them like three different times? He was severely injured in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Oh, was he at the start of that? Remember he had taken out the whole A team. That's why the B team was there. So I think he was still beat up from his fight against the entire A team of Earth. Dude, invincible is very good. I know Taylor doesn't like superhero stuff, but I wonder if he'd still, if he'd make an exception.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I don't know, maybe you wouldn't. Maybe it wouldn't be your cup of tea. But I think the listeners out there. It doesn't suck me in, but I appreciate when you guys find something. You guys were going through a drought for a good while where you had nothing. And so I'm glad you found something you guys couldn't. The superhero shit is secondary to the relationships. What I was saying earlier
Starting point is 01:01:15 is at the end of this most recent episode, even after the danger was fully gone, I was so nervous for Mark. Mark is having a conversation with his girlfriend outside that funeral. And I'm like, we should's having a conversation with his girlfriend outside that funeral. And I'm like, we should go indoors. Like we shouldn't be out in public. Like maybe something could fall on us right here. Like I just, I still didn't feel safe for them. There had been so much continuous danger for like,
Starting point is 01:01:36 I don't know, 40 minutes of that fight. The fight went on for 30 minutes at least. Like you gotta buy the comics and read it. You're clearly in love. His girlfriend, who by the way is super hot. Has the ability to like transform matter or something. And so there's Mark. He's got like a cast on three different limbs.
Starting point is 01:01:56 He can barely like operate and stuff and she wants to fuck. And he's like, I don't know what we're going to do. And then like all his clothes get like glittery or something and now they're folded on the floor next to the bed and he's like okay I know what to do yeah I think she's much more voluptuous in the comics like someone pointed out that spandex only works on men in the invincible universe because Omni-Man and Conquest caked up. They look like they squat 10,000 pounds. Why don't the girls have nice asses?
Starting point is 01:02:30 They'd have nice asses. They just don't animate them on Amazon for some reason. But I hear, I hear Adam, that's pretty fucking gay. Literally have some girl asses in there. Well, that's, that's, I, that's some sort of a, uh, you know how every now and then it's clear that all of the media stations get that same message to read from the overlords. And I think that happened with penises on television about six years ago. They decided TV needed fewer boobs and more dick
Starting point is 01:03:00 that they needed to balance the scales somehow. And so sexually assaulting men and like showing dicks has become frequent and funny. It's played for laughs and on TV. And whereas the opposite is never true for women, they are, they are never materialized or like there's no, there's never like sexy titties just for the sake of sexy titties. That never happens anymore. It's, it's, it's despicable. You know what? We need Harvey back. And any sex assault on a woman is considered as a thing. We need to spend multiple episodes addressing and writing these wrongs.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Honestly, I'm with Kyle. We need fewer dicks and more pussies. That's why I voted for Trump. I want to see lips. We need more pussy lips, more tits, just for fun. Sometimes it doesn't have to be part of the, Omni-Man can be coming in to be like, there's a horrible attack on the planet Zyklon.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And it's just like his, I imagine, big titty wife, like getting dressed. Has nothing to do with the story. But it's just, like that would, like we need more stuff like that. You know what? Maybe it happens in real life. I want it to happen on my TV.
Starting point is 01:04:03 What'd you think? Last time I saw Frivolous to happen on my TV Well, that's what I saw last time I saw frivolous cities 2018 Jack Ryan John Krasinski plays Jack Ryan in the first episode Inexplicably lady gets topless made no sense and I was like you got me. I watched two seasons of that show It's not even that good. Those TVs You couldn't even get a nipple in like after that first season. Yes, it's In charge of Hollywood? You said it right. Who's in charge of Hollywood that's shutting this shit down?
Starting point is 01:04:28 You know who? You know who? It's the Jews. I'm not going to, Kyle, he's not going to tell us who. He already will, actually. It's the Jewish directors. Take some human titties from you. Oh, and before we wrap, did you see Conor McGregor in the Oval Office? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:47 No, is he fighting? The president had this big picture of the Gulf of America, and he's like, and I renamed the Gulf of America. Did you see that? And he's like, and Conor like stands back, appraises the photo like, and goes, wow, I'm so, congratulations, Mr. President. Wow, your work ethic blows me away. Your work ethic, incredible.
Starting point is 01:05:10 How else do you respond to like, I changed the name, you know, Rand McNally is making a bunch of money on reprints. McGregor demonstrated some EQ right there. Like that is exactly what Trump would like to hear. Did you see his press conference thereafter at the White House podium with the- I did.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Conor McGregor's. Yeah, I don't think I'd pass a test on it, but something about America being Ireland's big brother and we should take care of them and some other stuff. He's upset about the illegal immigration in Ireland and he's saying that the 40 million Irish Americans won't have a homeland to go back to if it keeps up the way it is. He's upset about that. And so I think-
Starting point is 01:05:52 Can you say it again? The immigration into Ireland from- Correct. From the Middle East, I would imagine. I think he's an Africans and in the Middle East, I think he's upset about- Yeah. He wants Ireland to remain Irish. He talked about entire communities being, being like the demographics flipping overnight. Like, like, you know, it's suddenly becoming like a, an African town rather than an Irish town the next day.
Starting point is 01:06:12 So he's there talking about that. He has been for awhile, I guess he didn't look his crazy eyed and coked out, but he did look big and buff. I never know what Connor's up to. Not fighting. I don't think he'll ever fight again. I don't think John Jones will ever fight again either. He might not.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I think they're both retired. Jones is dodging Aspinall so hard. I saw him tweet about Pereira. He tweeted something like, I'm disappointed in your performance. I was looking forward to fighting you. And I was like, oh. I think Aspinall responded to that.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Like maybe nowhere to hide or something like that. But clearly Jones wanted to fight another guy who made his bones at 185. But that guy lost his fight, so no one wants to see it. And now he has to fight presumably the other champion in his own weight division. And Jones is like, what people my size I'm retiring. Yeah. It's going to be Aspinola retirement. It just depends if Dana white backs up a big enough truck of money to make him do the fight.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And I think, I, I don't know what Jones is thinking, but it's occurred to me that he's like, it would take 15 million for me to put an L on my record. That's what it would take, you know, or whatever that number is, but something like that. Like I know I can't win, but for 15 million I'll take this loss. Yeah, and I never understand their pay because I hear varied, the stories are so varied,
Starting point is 01:07:35 because if you listen to Daniel Cormier, he'd be like, you think that's what we get paid? Ha, we get paid like three times that behind the counter. They don't tell you what they pay us They'll tell you we made four million made 18 million, you know He'll tell you stuff like that But then like you'll hear and maybe that's true for the stars as it should be. I just don't know I'd like to believe it is that that those guys who are giving away their their mental health their future mental health like BJ
Starting point is 01:08:01 Ben did you see BJ Ben going crazy online online? Yes, hassling his mom. Is that his mom or not? So we'll wrap in like the next two minutes, but BJ Penn, former fighter, current retarded person, uploaded this video of this woman. He's like, look at her legs and ass. This lady claims to be my mother. This is not my mother. My mother's name is like, Jolene Braddock. Who is this woman? It's not my mother. She is not my mother. My mother's name is like Jolene Braddock. Who is this woman? It's not my mother. She's trying to rob me.
Starting point is 01:08:28 She's trying to steal my home. And like, I didn't know what to even believe in it. Yeah. I've read an article about it that says that's his mom. And he just thinks his mom has been replaced by some sort of duplicate imposter type thing. And he's clearly having mental health issues. That's a super common belief for like,
Starting point is 01:08:51 either some kind of schizophrenic or some kind of dementia to believe that the people close to you are no longer who they say they are, to believe they've been replaced. Like I don't remember what the disease is, maybe. Have you heard it linked to CTE? Cause I did that in my head, but I'm no expert. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Like it seems like CTE contributes to anything that could go wrong with your brain. Cause it's so much, your brain's so much more complicated than we were even beginning to understand now. And so like repeated blows to it. Like we're, we're eons from like fully understanding what every little node and neuron. If I were a surgeon in the 1400s and I looked at a brain,
Starting point is 01:09:29 I'd be like, well, clearly this thing doesn't do anything. Yeah. It's like fat or something. Oh, gross. Like, it just. Yeah. They gave a lot more thought to the heart, it seemed. I think I read something about that,
Starting point is 01:09:44 that they thought the heart was the seed of the soul or perhaps even the consciousness. And that's interesting to me. So I was alive in the 80s when they started replacing hearts with like mechanical ones. No, not chip hearts, but like, you know, machines. And like everybody knew that your soul wasn't in the heart, that it was actually just a muscle
Starting point is 01:10:10 responsible for circulation. But everyone kind of sort of wondered if the heart was like, really, what happens if you do replace a heart? Like, is there some soul in there? Turns out no, it's like replacing the b no it's like yeah, I said, but Yeah, I don't know. There was just the idea that your heart was your your heart and soul Still existed in my yeah. Yeah. I'm glad we figured that one out Now what is it like I guess it's your brain that's where all your memories dude
Starting point is 01:10:42 I watched a YouTube video the other day They say your gut is really impactful in that too Like your gut creates a lot of serotonin and other neurotransmitters that we didn't know it created Until like relatively recently Absolutely. Yeah, I Make us happy. I'm sorry Kyle. Maybe it maybe it is I thought it was just it tasted good Was explaining that our consciousness was a quantum field That that was interesting. I wish I was just, it tasted good. The scientist was explaining that our consciousness was a quantum field.
Starting point is 01:11:07 That was interesting. Who said that? I wish I was a scientist on YouTube. Okay. Okay. It's pretty good. Our understanding of consciousness is always- They don't know what it is. Whatever the current most recent advancement is.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I don't think there's any understanding of consciousness. It'd be like, that's when books were the thing. They're like, your consciousness is just a book that you are writing as it goes. And then we figure out, you know, mechanical things. And we're like, your brain is is a mechanism with its own gears, its own thing. And now your brain is actually a computer. And now we're past, oh, your brain's a quantum. And it's like, it's like, well, I think we know what a brain is.
Starting point is 01:11:43 It's what is our consciousness is. What is the thing that us? I want to Taylor, what you said was taught to me that same like human understanding of what your soul is, but quantum wasn't a thing yet. It stopped at computer. And now in my lifetime, they've added quantum, something or others, your brain's a bunch of corks.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I don't know what they're saying, but they took a leap of quarks. I don't know what they're saying. Took a leap of getting it wrong. It's going to be in a way before we can make something as complex as our own brains, which is crazy. I think our consciousness is just a memory of what we were. I, I, I, you know, how like, I think when we remember something, we're not even remembering when it happened. We're remembering the last time we thought about it and remembered it.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And so that way memories evolve. I think that's what we are too. I think that if you could, I think that you, there's that argument in Star Trek about when you transport somewhere, is that really you? Or is that just a copy of you who thinks it's you? I guess it's the same difference. Cause I don't think we have a soul at all.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I think we're just a memory of the us from yesterday. I had a coworker who had studied philosophy and he asked me if I have free will. I was like, yes, of course I have free will. I make my own decisions. And then he's like, okay, so do you believe in like a soul or a God? And I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:13:00 He's like, okay, so if we could somehow capture the entire state of everything, right, because you're just a bunch of like chemical reactions, maybe we could figure out, like, calculate how everything happens going forward, including your own decisions, because you're just a bag of chemicals that reacts to what happens, and, you know, takes things in and puts things out. Then, you know, if we could somehow capture it, then we could figure out what happens, I mean, takes things in and puts things out, then, you know, if we could somehow capture it, then we could figure out what happens for the rest of the universe everywhere always. Therefore, you don't have free will. And I was like, Whoa, there's a hole in my thinking, right?
Starting point is 01:13:38 I can't be a bag of chemical reactions and have free will at the same time. It's one of those. See, I disagree with that. I just listen I think that so what I believe I guess my the way I like to look at it is that the past the present and the future have already already happened And so they are already written just like you to do Yeah, if I didn't say the future then then the future as well as already written just like a book can be written But just because decisions are written in a book doesn't mean that they weren't made. You will make the decisions, but they've already been, you've already made them. So there's no free will. There's absolutely free will. There's a record of
Starting point is 01:14:17 your free will already there. But not if it was inevitable. It wasn't inevitable until you made the decision. It's all happening simultaneously. But if like, and I'm just like exploring what you're saying, like if the book is already written and we just haven't got to that page yet, then your decision is already baked in. Your decision, no, you made the decision, you wrote the book. What I'm saying is like you made those decisions, they happened, just as much as your decisions in the past were yours. Your decisions in the past are just as much yours and a product of your own free will. Just as much as your decisions right now are a product of your own free will and just as much as your positions, your decisions which
Starting point is 01:14:56 are already made, which will take place in the future, however have already happened are products of your free will. Just because it's all right. I'm sorry to wrap my head around the future being the past also. Not at all, it's super simple. Oh. No, I don't think it is. I think it's almost a having your cake and eating a two thing. It's like we have free will,
Starting point is 01:15:17 but it's meaningless because it's already written, just to use the book example. So like if it's already written and we can't meaningfully change. It's not meaningless, it has full meaning. You made the decision, if you're gonna, let's say it's what color shirt you're gonna wear tomorrow, blue or red, you make that decision, it happens.
Starting point is 01:15:34 The fact that the future's already occurred doesn't make that any less true. But making a decision is not the same as free will. Free will would be- Explain the difference. Well, I guess I would say, you're saying make a decision is not the same as free will. Free will would be... Well, I guess I would say, you're saying make a decision, but what you should say is performing an action. If you perform the action of putting on the blue shirt when it's already written in the future, you will wear a red shirt. Because you're still viewing the time as before, during, and after when it's all happening
Starting point is 01:16:02 at the same time. It's all done. All of the future has already happened. All the past has already happened. The right now is just us sliding through it. That doesn't make any sense. So I imagine Kyle saying time is not too much different than distance. We're just traveling from one place to the other and experiencing it as we go.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Am I on target with that? You're free to make your decisions. No, I went a little off trying to understand time because you said the future already happens and I think Taylor and I are both stuck on it. It's already happened. Yeah. We're just not there, but it exists.
Starting point is 01:16:31 We're just traveling towards it. You decide where we're going, but we're going. Okay, so we do have free will and it's not etched in stone, which would mean that the future is not yet ready. You etch it in stone with your decision. What shirt will you wear tomorrow, red or blue? Decide now. Red? Red. Okay, You just wrote the future with your own three wills. Is it an inevitability that I choose red? You just made it one. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:16:53 What if I wake up tomorrow morning and choose blue? Is red already written in the future text? When you make the decision, it is written. It's all happening at the same time. There is no before, during, or after. You will then make the decision because you did make decision because you are making decision. Yeah, but that makes it sound as though it's like, but then that's the same level of making a decision or free will as like, I dropped this sodium brick
Starting point is 01:17:15 into a lake and it will be a cool YouTube video. It's gonna spark around and it's gonna be neat. Gonna go boom. That's an inevitability that's going to spark around and it's going to be neat. It's going to go boom. That's an inevitability that's going to happen. But I don't fully wrap my head around the future. If the future has already happened and we're just on a road that's predestined, then nothing that we're doing is meaningful and matters. And we are, as would you put it, just a bag of chemicals.
Starting point is 01:17:41 What you say the same is true for your past? That because your past is already written, that none of your decisions mattered. If reality is as you're describing it, then all of those decisions were baked in too through a chemical reaction and none of it was- No, you made them. You made them. But the future- You chose that hat today.
Starting point is 01:18:01 The future can't- You chose that. No one else but you. That it is inevitable. Did the sodium choose to explode in the pond or was it an inevitability chemically? You're talking about chemical and physical reactions. I'm talking about your decisions as a person. You're not a sodium reaction. You're a consciousness. You have sentience and you have... But if we extend it that everything has already happened, then it negates the possibility of any of us meaningfully changing it because it lowers What we've done to that of a chemical reaction. I think you're missing the point my
Starting point is 01:18:32 Entirely you make the decision that will happen and when you make it around time Like Kyle is like the future already happened and Taylor's like well I'm not making a decision if future already happened and Taylor's like, well, I'm not making a decision if it already happened. And he's like, no, no, no. The future that we could go see hypothetically it was created by your decisions. It's just happening in the future.
Starting point is 01:18:57 And that time is where I can't wrap my head around Kyle's idea. Still have free will. Everything that happened, again, the shirt thing is simple. Yeah, I believe we have free will. So I agree with that. I just don't think that having free will and saying that the future has already been written
Starting point is 01:19:13 makes any sense. Because to have a future that's already written means that all of the things that will lead into that written future aren't inevitability, which would make it more like a chemical reaction than a individual decision. What I see a lot of physicists talking about is that as we are making those decisions, and I mean every decision, even the most minute ones, maybe even whether to take a breath
Starting point is 01:19:35 here or a pause there, new realities are forming. That we're on this burning edge of reality and the futures are occurring in front of us as we steam forward at the speed of time. And that as we make these decisions, red shirt, blue shirt, an entire new reality is being created. One where you chose red, one where you chose blue. And not just because of shirts, but every decision that everyone makes and every way that a leaf falls to the left rather than the right. New realities at the speed of time are happening in front of us. makes and every way that a leaf falls to the left rather than the right, new realities at the speed of time are happening in front of us and we're riding along beside them. And some of them we are almost perfectly parallel with. All the decisions went the exact same, except for you wore a red shirt instead of a blue one. And so those timelines are steaming
Starting point is 01:20:19 along side by side perfectly. Hey, red shirt, blue shirt. But if the future is a series of and I don't find the infinite, you know, decision based realities compelling, maybe I don't understand enough about it, but I don't think that makes sense. If that is what's happening, then it just fully loads into the we do have free will. And it's not meaningfully different from our perspective to just saying we have free will and we are changing the future based interactions. I think a big part of that many worlds theories comes from the slit experiment and the observation situation. So the idea that the new reality is occurring
Starting point is 01:20:57 as soon as the observer measures or observes the particle. Now, okay, now we're in that reality, the one where it went to the left. And then a new reality is being branched off where it went to the left. And then a new reality is being branched off where it went to the right. And that one continued on parallel to ours that we're seeing at the quantum state, the effects of making those decisions and creating new realities. Okay. Well then if that new reality spawns at a decision that someone chooses to make, then the future is not written. Exactly. I'm glad you wrapped your head around it finally.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Damn it, Taylor. But that's not what you said in the beginning. Just when you thought his skull couldn't get thicker. No, but what I'm at... I'm glad you laughed with me, thank you. I'm joking around at the end, but those are two different theories, right? The first one I put for is the theory that it's all already happened.
Starting point is 01:21:48 It's all it already happened before. It's the future is written and the decisions are yours. But you are making them and writing that future. And then there's that many worlds theory, that alternate reality theory, which I also do find really compelling. I like that idea, too. When they break it down and they like put a little like scaffolding underneath their theory that involves science I can't comprehend. I'm like, oh, okay, well, I guess I'll give that three points of credence because I can't quantify
Starting point is 01:22:14 it any other way. And you like it a little more. I don't like explanations like the infinite multiverse thing because it's like answering an already complex question with an infinitely more complex solution isn't actually distilling any knowledge. It's just, it's basically like a, like a just like, oh yeah, we don't know. And so it could be this infinitely more complex. Instead of having one complex universe.
Starting point is 01:22:38 This isn't philosophical, it's scientific. So this isn't a philosophical idea of what it might be. It's based on some hard science and some mathematical equations They're not just guessing when they talk about the many worlds theory. There's there's a lot of Physicists to who that's their belief in reality. Of course, there's a lot of them that believe in the simulation theory They think it's way more likely that we're in a simulation than we're not in one Yeah, which like we don't know we don't have No, of course not. We have no idea what reality is. No, of course not.
Starting point is 01:23:07 We have no grasp on what reality or consciousness is. And that's half the fun. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that was fun. That was fun to talk about. We need an actual science man to come on occasionally. No, that's gay, let's wing it. No, I sometimes do podcasts in my head,
Starting point is 01:23:27 like what I do with a real science guy. You know, like the questions I'd ask him. You should get a real science guy. Who's the guy I like so much? I've seen him on Rogan, he's British, he has kinda 70s hair. Christopher Bell, do you know? Kyle knows his name.
Starting point is 01:23:43 What field of science does he do? I think he's a physicist, physics. Let's see. Science done. Guy from Joe Rogan. See if that works. Brian Cox. Ah, yeah, yeah, he's great.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Brian Cox, he's just efficient with his words and his explanations and he helps me get it. Neil deGrasse Tyson, he's kind of verbose sometimes. He's weaving paths all over the place. Unless he's scripted, to me it's not as good. Brian Cox, whoa, top of the food chain. And he said stuff I wanna talk to him about, I watch him on YouTube. Like, the universe is flat.
Starting point is 01:24:38 What? I have questions. It's clearly not flat, because I stand up. We're not flat. Yeah, yeah. So like, what do you mean by the universe is flat? Is it mostly flat?
Starting point is 01:24:50 Is it flat, but only five light years tall and infinite light years wide? Like I wanna know about these things. I would prepare my heart out for him to be on my podcast so that it was good. That would be sick. We should try and get it. Do you know what the background radiation,
Starting point is 01:25:11 the background microwave radiation that they analyze, I think what they do is when they look at it, they see the distribution of energy in the universe is homogeneous. And via that, and if it were curved, distribution of energy in the universe is Homogenous and Via that if and if it were curved, I think that it would not be homogenous. It would be They would be able to determine the curvature via this or something and and by looking at the background microwave radiation Through those telescopes. I think doing that they're able to determine that the universe's geometry is flat.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I've seen three different guys explain that to me, and I've still not quite wrapped my head around it because I had never wrapped my head quite around geometry. That's fair. I'm like, is flat a spectrum? Cause it's not too deep, right? Universe is at least 3D. I can observe that much. If you want to really blow your mind, try to get someone to explain multiple dimensions
Starting point is 01:26:11 because they'll start and then you'll be like, all right, I'm on board. Okay, one dimensional being would see a two dimensional being and wouldn't be able to understand it. They move, you know, up left and right. That's all they got. And you add up and down and it blows their mind. They can't even understand it.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Then you add the third dimension. It's like, holy shit. and you add up and down and it blows their mind they can't even understand it then you add the third dimension it's like holy shit then you add time to that it's like all right well the fifth dimension is wrapped up and there's actually 17 dimensions and they're like they're like seashells it's like a nautilus of dimensions all curled up and wrapped under ours and i'm like i can't i can't understand that i can't picture that and then they then they visualize it with this cube that within which are many more cubes through some trick of the light. And then like, see, there's the there it is. There's a fifth dimensional like space. And I'm like, yeah, I guess so. It's a three dimensional space that that's bigger on the inside. Yes, because it's
Starting point is 01:26:59 wrapped up. Yes. Explain that in a way that doesn't make me sound like I'm talking about a TARDIS, though. I can't like, oh, no, we me sound like I'm talking about a TARDIS though. I can't. Oh no, we can't. We were inspired by the TARDIS. That was what gave us this idea. That is like one of the funniest memes though, is like watching old space stuff and they're, you know, who was that guy that sounded kind of like this? Where he was talking about space? Cosmos. where he was talking about space. Cosmos. Yeah. I don't know what his fucking name is. Wingslakes? Yeah. Carl Sagan. Yes. We got there. But they do, we did, we all worked together there. We got it. Look at that. We chose to think of the name Carl Sagan there. That was not predetermined. It was predetermined. Like the way they will explain hyper complicated things sometimes where they're like imagine a black hole as if it were a pear and it's like we're already not learning. Like there's no
Starting point is 01:27:53 way we can take something that complex and like just like simplify it that much. Like you and I get they're trying to travel to the future and view your decisions. Does that mean you didn't make them If I travel to the future and view your decisions, does that mean you didn't make them? Philosophically, with your point of view here, if you can make decisions, there can be no future to travel to? I don't know if traveling to the future is a possibility. If there, it may be that there's no scientific way to travel throughout time. Who is future? That's irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:28:29 It's a philosophical question. Let's say there is, now I'm there. I'm in your future where you're wearing the red shirt. Does that mean you didn't pick it? No, it would mean that all those decisions along the way you missed and you're like jumping up to take a snapshot of it. It's as though you removed yourself from reality and then re-entered a thousand years in the future. But while you were doing that, all these things were happening. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Not me,
Starting point is 01:28:55 me and my time machine. So you would be looking at a, you would be looking at a past that was determined by the decisions that people made in real time throughout that period. I don't know who these other people are. We're onto your shirt. I'm traveling to tomorrow with my spaceship that I'm sitting in right now. You're wearing a red shirt. I can see it. You picked that shirt, even though it is
Starting point is 01:29:15 inevitable that you will pick that shirt, you still picked it nonetheless. If it's inevitable, then there's no free choice there. But if it's not, you made the choice. It's not But if it's not inevitable- You made the choice. You can't change your past, you can't change your future. You determined both your decisions. I've got another one, Kyle, hear this out. If you travel back in time and convince him to pick the blue shirt,
Starting point is 01:29:35 does that mean that, like, does he have free will? How does that change this situation? If you, did he pick the red shirt and then you traveled back in time and then you change it to the blue shirt and that other timeline never exists? Well, I guess the real question would be, would there be multiple timelines created
Starting point is 01:29:52 or would we override the OG timeline where he had a red shirt? In either case, he is still proving my point and changing his future with his decision. The fact that I can travel to it is irrelevant. I think there is a great choice. I can prove it by going to the future. The fact that I can travel to it is irrelevant. I think there is the red shirt I can prove it by going to the future the fact that that that is true does not take away your free will to pick A red shirt or a blue shirt. Oh wait if you travel in the future and see his red shirt because I it's like I decided that I know that he can't choose a blue one that he doesn't have free will in a bit
Starting point is 01:30:20 You're thinking of the future being predetermined as if it's taking away your choices when it's not. It's just letting us know what you're going to choose before you do it. Just because I know what you're gonna do before you do it doesn't change your free will. If I travel to the future and learn that you die an untimely death through a bad decision, so I go back and I tell you about it,
Starting point is 01:30:45 you know, have I, I don't know, I'm still wrapping my head around this idea. Like, you know. That's not the question again. That's just, can you change the future? Right, because you kind of are, well, the situation you laid out kind of means you can't change the future.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I will not change the future in any way. I won't touch it. My time machine lets me see what he's gonna wear tomorrow. That's all it does. I can see what he's gonna wear tomorrow. It's a red shirt. He's still the one who picked the shirt, not me, because I'm not gonna tell him. I'm not gonna come in, hey, you're picking a red shirt tomorrow. Now, if I did that, we get into a whole fucking shit storm of paradoxes. We're not doing that. I'm not gonna come to you and get, hey, you're picking a red shirt tomorrow where you like it or not.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Then the world might implode. Then we might turn into an inside out butthole, okay? Like I'm not talking about doing any crazy shit like that. I'm just saying that I'll know today what he's gonna do tomorrow. I'm not taking away his free will. He will pick the shirt, but I'll know about it. And he won't. Yes, I agree with that. But the time travel part of it is just you looking at what has already been
Starting point is 01:31:52 decided. Like if I have free will to pick the color shirt and I decide I want to wear a red shirt tomorrow, then of course you're going to see me wearing a red shirt tomorrow in the same way that if I have decided today I'm going to wear a blue shirt tomorrow and you went to the future you would be seeing the result of my decision there. Absolutely. And so like in this way we agree like you our decisions are meaningful and they lead to you know where we're trying to go. That was never a question. The only thing that is a question here is whether I can go there and look at the decisions that will be made today in the future.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Yes. I would think so because, yeah, I agree with you there because- And yet you still have free will, even though it's all predetermined. I don't think the predetermined- If I can go there, it's predetermined. If I can go there and see it, then it's done. I will have no impact on the timeline. The only thing I will do with a screen is see the future. I will know what shirt you're wearing. I'll know what Woody ate for lunch. I'll know whether I had a messy shit that day. And those decisions will all happen regardless of my knowing.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I'm bad at this, I need stock tips. All the things you figured out are worthless. Going to the- I mean, short Tesla. Like puts on Tesla. I don't think it is baked into the stock price. The level of shit storm that's coming is not baked into that stock price. You cannot convince me otherwise. It's going down.
Starting point is 01:33:16 It's going to be bad. He's going to be removed. When do we buy? You'd never buy. You want to bet against the company. It won't stay down forever. Oh, you're going to... It might stay down forever.
Starting point is 01:33:27 You might get bought by another company. That's what I think happens if Tesla fails, someone else takes it over. That's what's coming. That's what's coming. And you know who's going to want them? A Chinese company is going to want them. And there's going to be a huge regulatory nightmare where Trump will not let Tesla be sold to the Chinese.
Starting point is 01:33:48 It's a national, actually Tesla needs to be bought out and saved because it's a national treasure. I know we're wildly past time. Did you see the Mark Rober video? I don't know who that is, no sir. Oh, I think it's Rober, R-O-B-E-R, and I pronounced it wrong. Oh, I did it's Rober, R-O-B-E-R, and I pronounced it wrong. Oh, I did see something about this.
Starting point is 01:34:07 And he did a video showing how LIDAR works. LIDAR, from what I can gather, is a little bit like a radar. It sends out laser beams and they bounce back, and that way it sort of maps out all the things around you. Well, there's two different self-driving technologies competing against each other. One is LIDAR based where it uses this,
Starting point is 01:34:28 we'll call it a radar to see what objects are around. And the other uses a camera where it interprets the visual image it gets and makes decisions about that. Well, he tested it in a few different environments. The first was he had a mannequin sitting in the street and they both did great, cool. And then he had a mannequin sitting in the street and they both did great, cool. And then he had a mannequin,
Starting point is 01:34:46 I might mess it up a little bit. They used fire hoses to create like the worst downpour that nature could possibly create. And the LIDAR worked and the camera base one didn't. Now the downpour was said to be one of LIDAR's weaknesses, but in this test it worked, okay. And then I think there were at least four tests, but the final one was a Wile E. Coyote-like painting
Starting point is 01:35:12 on a Styrofoam wall in front of the road. And of course the LIDAR didn't really care what was on the painting, and the camera smashed right through it, thinking that it was just road continuing, because visually it kind of looks like that. Yeah, it is pretty funny. And he even had the, I think it was styrofoam,
Starting point is 01:35:31 like wall pre-cut out, so when the car smashed through it, it kind of looked the cartoony angles and stuff. Because they, I mean, they knew what was gonna happen. It's become kind of a political thing. Like the blue team is like, look how much Tesla saw. And the red team is like, you know, these set up, took 18 months to make the video he says. And there's a whole nother half of the video
Starting point is 01:35:53 I haven't talked about where he wore a LIDAR and rode on Space Mountain, the dark roller coaster, and mapped it out. It was kind of interesting. He made a 3D model of Space Mountain so he could see what it looked like. And, but I, at first I thought it was political too. interesting. He made a 3D model of Space Mountain so he could see what it looked like. But I at first I thought it was political too and having seen enough Robur videos, I've never heard him talk about it. I don't think it's political what he did. I think he's taking
Starting point is 01:36:16 advantage of a flaw in the system that's irrelevant though. Let's circle back to that. I know that he spends a lot of time on his videos and I was like No, this isn't political because I bet he started this last year and then it turns out he started it 18 months ago. So It's not like a reaction to doge or anything like that But um, but anyway, it's getting a lot of attention some people are falsely claiming that it wasn't in full self-driving because there's a shortened version of the video where it looks like he's not. But if you watch the long version of the video,
Starting point is 01:36:52 not only does he explain he put it in full self-driving, but you can see it on the dashboard. He shows it. I wouldn't dispute any of that. It makes sense that a system that, all I saw was a still image of the picture with the hole through it and it was like a really good picture. It was like I left it up hand painted or anything. I said I didn't
Starting point is 01:37:11 remember all the tests. Another one was fog. He did fog and the lidar worked in the fog but the rate that camera base one did not. Yeah and by the way, thick fog. So I would imagine just just that the answer to that question is a little bit of both and it's very expensive And it involves some sort of on board ai computer that's analyzing Like both of those sensor readouts and interpreting them on the fly and in guiding your car and that sounds expensive to create And I don't know if Tesla has that, I don't know what Tesla does for R and D anymore. I know they don't spend any money on advertising, but I don't see their cars like changing.
Starting point is 01:37:52 They look the same as they always did. Their tech's the same as it always was. That big cheap panel in the middle, plastic everywhere and self-driving that doesn't self-drive. I know Tesla, again, I'm talking out my butt. I'm far outside my expertise, but I think Tesla has spent a lot of money on what might not be the right tech,
Starting point is 01:38:14 because the camera thing, we all understand, is kind of cheap to put in the car, right? But to overcome some of the camera deficiencies, they analyze billions of miles driven to see what drivers do. And it's like, oh, drivers always make a swerve here. Perhaps there's construction that's not shown on our maps. Oh, drivers always stop here.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Perhaps there's some reason that this is happening. We should bake in that driver behavior into our full self-driving because it's not likely that everyone makes the same mistake here every time, right? The road must curve in a way that we didn't, that wasn't on Rand McNally. I'm making things up.
Starting point is 01:38:56 So they use the billions of miles driven in combination with the camera. And the big part of me is like, LIDAR might be cheaper than depending on that analysis. I think that I'm gonna be interested to see how much media coverage this gets versus him rescuing those astronauts that were stranded on the space station,
Starting point is 01:39:21 which got no coverage. Oh, got them? I found out about it, exactly. I, got about it. Like, exactly. I found out about like a day or two later. Let me tell you what they did. First of all, the reason they're stranded, it's because Boeing's star liner thing was so bad and failed so many times that NASA was like, that's not safe to come back home in.
Starting point is 01:39:40 We can't use that. So they sat up there for almost a year. And Elon sent a real spaceship up there with astronauts flying that bitch. There's like cameras inside it and there's little astronauts put fucking touching buttons and shit. And then they go above the camera that's on the space station. And here it comes. There's a fucking spaceship coming to pick these people up. And like right now we're 210 miles above the Indian Ocean. It's a beautiful day down there. And it's a push and the clouds are moving behind the spaceship and you see the Indian Ocean. And it's like making these maneuvers. They're moving hundreds and I don't know, thousands of
Starting point is 01:40:14 miles an hour doing this fucking dance locking up together. And then when they come on board, homies wearing an alien mask to fuck with everybody. Then they had this big moment where everybody hugs and they talk for the cameras and all the women's hairs like crazy standing up straight. None of that got coverage anywhere that I watched. It was crazy. I didn't hear anything. That's crazy. That seems like a big deal. I heard about it, but it was through a lens of dislike where they were because afterwards the astronauts get on camera and they're like, thank you, Elon, thank you Donald Trump for saving us.
Starting point is 01:40:50 And I was like, this is like a made for TV moment. Do they have to say this? I don't care. I'm down. Biden turned Elon down on his offer to rescue those. You know, I've heard that. And then I've heard it wasn't true. And that left me not sure what's true
Starting point is 01:41:05 I believe the astronauts and nobody had a gun to their head The astronauts were the ones except for the US government who left them there with them They've been up there floating around getting bones wasting syndrome for months in my version which I'm not sure is right. I try to be right and not always right Elon said they turned him down and the astronauts are like, no, they didn't. So you probably saw a lot of that. It was public. They like argued on Twitter and shit. Oh, I didn't see. I don't go to Twitter.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I don't go on. I mean, I read about I didn't catch it, I guess I should say. Yeah. OK, well, then you see it. So I don't know what's true. It's so hard to get. Every time I see a news story, I'm like, okay, I need the other side now. Like, because I just never know what to trust.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Yeah, I watched a 15 minute video today about current polling and how one side views the polls one way and the other side views the polls they want to. The current favorability polls of the president and of Congress and the various parties and stuff. Oh, and then I watched the whole thing about, I guess, the Panama Canal. There's so much going on in the world. It's a fun time. It's a fun time. Lots of drama. Trump's bombing the Houthis. So the Houthis stole an Israeli- shipping vessel. I think by Israeli owned,
Starting point is 01:42:25 I think like the guy who owns the company is Israeli. He's a Jew. Happy Jew. And so I think the Houthis had like made it their flagship and they've been driving this bitch around. Like, they've been, you know, they've been popping wheelies in and shit. Trump shot the bridge of that boat with a missile last night
Starting point is 01:42:45 And like he's been bombing them for days Like blowing up Houthis. I keep seeing video and he also killed the the number two and Isis man Don't you did that that chain of command if you're number four number five You're on the like like with the perimeter the periphery you're like, please most of them down your Not going to public like the perimeter, the periphery, you're like, please Mustafa, be careful. Turn down your promotions. Do not go into public. We must keep Mustafa safe. I am already the 10 of hearts. This is so scary.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Yeah. Dude, they never get the guy on top. If I become a first card, I am fucked. Number twos and threes, they always define whoever they got as that. Yeah. You remember those cards they gave out to the soldiers? So our boy Fish and some of the other guys
Starting point is 01:43:30 have gotten into card trading and online. They opened big packs of cards and they sell them online and do the whole thing. They got some kind of business going on. But Fish has those Iraqi cards. He's got a whole binder of them, like a complete set. That's cool. And I was like, I thought they'd be rare, you know
Starting point is 01:43:45 Oh how much how much to get an unopened pack? I was thinking was gonna say 150 $200 something like that The United States government made so many of those packs Woody. You can get a brand new one open pack for like $20 of those Desert storm like like, you know Saddam Hussein Udayek who say car to see a baghdad bob or something it's like military surplus there's a peace card and he's like look i got the peat the dove of peace that's the holographic one they've got a foil dove of peace in his iraqi war deck of cards it's great that's pretty cool i'm trying to find his card.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Shit, does he have one? My memory might have made this thing up. No no, Baghdad Bob was the spokesman for Iraq when America was invading, right? So America is like, we're 600 miles in, we've taken over, and there's like a map that shows this broad swaths of Land that America owns and Baghdad is in Baghdad on camera being like the Americans are not making any progress we're rebelling rebelling rejecting them going on and He just telling lies to the people about it the success they're having against the United States military. And towards the end, there's like smoke in the background of the camera shot.
Starting point is 01:45:10 He's like, they're not here. It's not happening. As you can see, we're having a wonderful barbecue in Baghdad. The fireworks celebrations are jubilant. The people of Baghdad are celebrating the coming victory. These are all the same guy. It became kind of hated and beloved celebrating the coming victory. These are all the same guy. It became kind of hated and beloved at the same time.
Starting point is 01:45:30 This Baghdad, Bob, where like everyone, all the Americans are like laughing out loud at his lies on TV, at how like, you know, the Americans are not here and they're not doing well. And it turned out he wasn't telling the truth. Turned out propaganda. Fake news. The OG fake news. Baghdad Bob. Yeah. So I, and for some reason in my head, I might be misremembering it. He was the Joker in that deck, but I'm not sure if it's true. Oh, that'd be good. We're probably wrapping out. Yeah. I think it's dinner time. Yeah. Nice long one.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Yeah. All right. PKN 552.

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