Painkiller Already - PKN 556

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Pka five five six sup boys. How's it going? How's it going? We were a little worried last week because it was like is President Trump really gonna throw Americans into gulags in other countries and I was like, of course not. That would be a step too far. I wouldn't like that. And this would end like today. Maybe yesterday. He's like, I'd love to do it. We're looking into it, but only for the worst of the worst. That's how it starts. Not ideal. At first, there'll be people so bad that they're darn near indefensible, right? You know, citizens are not this guy, like, you know, killed a mom and raped the baby. Like, what are we doing? What am I locked? Throw away the key. And who's going to stand in that guy's defense, right?

ACLU and no one else. And then the other next guy is also pretty bad until eventually it's just people who speak out against Trump. It seems like the citizen thing is just like the easiest way to do this is like, don't like, if they're a citizen, no, you can't send them somewhere else.

They have to go to prison in America. They're American citizens that checks out. Well, I don't like that. No, I think Taylor's saying what his value system is, not what Trump said. Oh, I know, I know. That's what it should be. It's funny to retort him with doesn't matter.

Don't care what your morals are. Doesn't matter, don't care. Oh, you got a little feeling inside? I've heard that argument. A lot of faggots are making it. You think that a lot of losers out there saying this. Dude, I try not to overreact to everything Trump's doing, but he is obviously clearly on this autocrat's path

of throwing anyone he wants to, disappearing them forever. But on the bright sideocrat's path of throwing anyone he wants to disappearing them forever. But on the bright side, he's 80. So it can't last long. Please, he's gone. No, it is. He's not dying. He's a fat 80 year old. Oh, and he's already proven that he's okay with mistakes.

Right, like there's several people in the last batch he threw into an El Salvador supermax prison where they're like, they were innocent, innocent right the Supreme Court ruled that he has to bring him back and he just flipped in the bird to everybody he said they can come back well like it that one's interesting though see this is where where I'm on they're not they're not so this is where I'm this is where I'm team Trump listening all the media refers to this guy as Maryland Man. Tell me more about that Maryland man. Where is he originally from?

Nick? Oh, he, he lives in a small town in Maryland. You may not have heard of no, no, no, no. Where, where did he, where before there? Well, I mean, El Salvador, he's from El Salvador. Yeah. Well, is he here legally? Well, not exactly. He wasn't tied to. Yeah. Well, is he here legally? Well, not exactly.

He wasn't tied to any gangs, was he? Well, a couple of courts said he was a member of MS-13. And he was- Now that part I need to look into because I don't think that's true. I think he's been accused of- That. Being in MS-13.

Yeah. And it, but as we know, I mean, he's been accused of being in Trende, or Agua too. Like they just throw shit out there. That's the other guy. That's the, I think that's the gay hairdresser. And it's like, there is some court doc that says maybe

about the MS 13 thing, but there's no like proof around it. And when people ask for proof that he was in this gang, they just, it's trust me, bro. They said he's involved with human trafficking. All I know is that the guy's from El Salvador, we've decided he's a terrorist, and so we sent him back to his home country of El Salvador and they put him in their prison. And they asked the president of El Salvador, he's like, will you send him back? And he's, how can I send back a terrorist into the United States? You want me to smuggle a terrorist into your country? How preposterous?

You know what I mean? So he ran cover for Trump on that. Like he- Oh, the truth? No, the court ordered that Trump send him back. And he's like, I won't do it. And now Trump's off the hook. How Trump's supposed to like,

seal things and fix him out? The illegal has to come back? The, well, they're trying to give him due process. They threw him away. They like this guy has, he has no record. He has no criminal record. I think it's hard to get all the people who didn't get the process.

Yeah. Well, is that it? Yeah. All right. That's enough for me. Country. It's enough for me. That's enough for me. It's not enough to throw someone in a supermax prison for the rest of their lives. And we wouldn't do that here, but in El Salvador they do. And it's their citizens, so it's theirs to do as they wish. They were like, will you turn, they asked the El Salvadoran president, will you let him go?

He's like, why would I let a terrorist go onto my streets? I don't know if you know, but we had the most dangerous country in the world and now we have the safest country in the world. Can you people wanna drag us back? No. I do process is good. People should be found guilty in court

before they're thrown away in prison for life. I deal with like if you're- That guy's different though, because he's from El Salvador. Yeah, he's not a citizen. He's an El Salvadorian citizen. They can do what they're thrown away in prison for life. Ideally, like if you're, he's from El Salvador. Yeah. You're not a citizen. They can do it. There's American rights are for American citizens. As far as us getting him back.

That's not true. And that's not what the constitution says. The rights extend to non-citizens too. I don't think so. I think it says that, uh, if you're subject to the law of the land, then it applies to you. I read it recently. If you break into the country, you're not subject to the law of the land then it applies to you I read it recently and if you break into the really in this amendment the law of the way I saw like an argument about it where like they took umbridge with like well

Yes, the rights apply if you are subject to the law of the country Which if you break in illegally you are clearly not subject to the law of the country You're been they're not subject to our laws. If you're here legally you can just do whatever you want. I mean, they're not subject to the same rights as an American because they're here illegally. What other rights do they have? Do they have the second amendment? Can they can they hold and bear arms as an like, like, you know what I mean? Outside of my depth. Yeah, I hear you. But but regardless of what like some some scholar might say or some some Middle Eastern fellow might uh might investigate a book and find my feeling is that if you have invaded our country don't be looking at our bill of rights for how we're going to treat you.

Yeah I just googled it. Yes, non-citizens residing in the United States have the same constitutional rights as residing with some United States have the same constitutional rights as citizens, with some exception. But what does that mean? The Constitution protects individuals, not just citizens. You know what the real problem is? And the most constitutional provisions aside, based on personhood rather than citizenship. I was thinking about this earlier today.

The real problem here is that over here you have me, born in America. I'm as much of a citizen as one can be there's no level higher of citizenship than we are peak on the other end you have a guy who lives in France and he's never been here before in between there seem to be like 30 fucking things all right oh he's got he's a he's a 30 there's no oh he's got a, he's a, he's a 30. So there's all these, oh, he's a resident on, on he's, it's a temporary this and it's a, oh, well, he's a, an asylum seeker and just on and on. Oh, he's a dreamer.

And there's all these shades, this huge gradient of, of, and I'm like, I don't know where y'all get, at what point you start getting rights, but it's, it's left of me. It's left of me when it happens. And it's right of the guy from fucking France. And I think it's probably left of the of the MS 13 gang member that got sent back to El Salvador. I him he's fucked. He's on his own. He ain't never coming back. I'll bet y'all make a bet. He ain't never coming back. I agree with you. So I'm not going to take that. I got a hundred says that some bitch ain't coming

back because like, like, ain't no way, ain't no way. Um, the gay, uh, hairdresser from Venezuela. It's so funny him being gay is such a big part of the story. Well, the reason people can't be bad. Do you know what the original series? That's not why though. The reason it's mentioned is because the reason he was seeking asylum on his paperwork was that he was a, it was, um, what would you say? Um, gay, uh, he was being, um, he was in, he was in danger because he was smuggled so much in his ass. And meanwhile, Venezuela does have gay, like nightclubs and stuff. It's not the middle East.

It's not Iran. Um, but any case, that was his reason for seeking asylum was like persecution for his homosexuality, I suppose. And they've got that picture of them shaving his hair, and he's crying and praying. And it's like, man, that's a little rough. Are we sure he was one of the bad ones? Because he seems kind of soft. I don't know, maybe. Maybe. I'm trying to find any evidence this guy's an MS-13. There's, it seems like it's nothing.

My Google search is just find the Trump administration saying it. Yeah. Yeah. I watched the- I'm much more concerned with citizens' rights. They'll just say you're an MS-13 when they wanna do something to you.

I doubt it. I mean, I mean, I think we watched him do it already to someone else. No citizens. I were really hung up on the citizen thing. That's a huge huge thing. That's an enormous thing. If I know I'm free care about right and wrong. Like they all just fuck this. They didn't happen to me. I'm here. If I break in- No one seems to care about right and wrong. They all just say, ah, fuck this guy. They don't want to happen to me.

Wrong is breaking- I'm here, they're there, everyone left to me. Wrong is breaking. If I break into Germany and I start taking government assistance or whatever and they deport me to Portland instead of Missouri and I throw a huge tantrum, it's crazy. Germany has the right to send me back and I am, I shouldn't get the blessing of German law through some weird loophole legal system. Like no, I broke in, I took advantage of their system and they caught me and then they shipped me back. Like that's, I think it's really weird to not want to get rid of people who are invading.

Like, that's that's just my opinion. And apparently a lot of people's opinion. I'm much more concerned about the citizens of America. I mean, they've only since they've sent like 240 people to that El Salvadoran prison, you know, and they catch like how many hundreds a day. It's hundreds of hundred. You know, it really does seem like... Bullshit numbers. The people there... Venezuela won't take people.

So that's why the Venezuelans get sent there for the most part and being gang members. That's on Venezuela. I don't know about... They say that guy's an MS-13 gang member. I don't see any proof for that either. That has been like flashed in front of me. I don't see any,

but I don't know what the proof would be. like him throwing up gang signs in front of a flag. I don't know something on his social media background, something about the people he associates with something on his tattoos. Like they there's nothing but that lying sack of shit press secretary that Trump puts up there every day. She told me tariffs were a tax cut. Terry that Trump puts up there every day. She told me tariffs were a tax cut. So what like what I'm just curious like what so is it the prison part? You it's the lack of new process. It's the fact that these people didn't do anything and they just they judge jury and judge dread bullshit right. I think where we disagree is you don't see being an illegal immigrant as a sufficient crime. And I do. They broke

into our country. They committed a felony breaking in. If he's murdered in El Salvador, then we've indirectly given him the death sentence to go there. I mean, we indirectly murdered American citizens by allowing illegals who murdered and raped citizens if we're using that logic. Like be alive. Really? Like you don't think like Lake and Riley would be alive if illegal, if that rapist murderer hadn't been let in. Sure. Let in and then flown around the country. Put into Marriott. I love that we flew him to the place where he murdered the girl. Yeah, there's so it's just I have more empathy for the American, my fellow American citizens harmed

by the illegals than I do for the people who break into our country. I just feel like there's a right and wrong that's getting lost in here. Where we take someone who committed the small parking infractions, make them criminals. And we throw people who commit pretty small offenses into El Salvador super maxes without, some of these people were here legally and we threw them in there because we made a mistake. Right?

This Maryland guy I think was here illegally, but the hairdresser, was he on an asylum or something like he wasn't even illegal. He was he had temporary legal status and they threw him in an El Salvador prison based on is he the one with the autism fucking tattoo? I can't keep all these guys straight. I'm not sure. I tried to research that. But all I could find was like pictures of people's autism tattoos. that but all I could find was like pictures of people's autism tattoos. Get out of here. We get it. If the dude with the autism tattoo is here legally, even temporarily, then yeah, you

shouldn't be shipping him back until you're like, checking. Or at least revoke it and send him back in a non-prison way. But like, there needs to be a way to solve this. We have tens of millions of people in our country who don't belong here. That number is hard to track too. I've heard Trump say everything from a way to solve this. We have tens of millions of people in our country who don't belong here. I have numbers hard to track too. I've heard Trump say everything from 2 million to 20 million. I've heard 13 million since 2004, and they don't really move it up.

And we had a ridiculous amount in the Biden administration coming over. And so it's like- They always talk about who comes and who leaves, right? A lot of these people come here, they're seasonal, and they act like these numbers just accumulate in the upward direction and that they're not coming and going all the time. I don't, I think most people are moving here and staying here.

Like then you'd have to check that data. Yeah, I don't know. Like it wouldn't, I mean, they send huge amounts of remittances, which is another huge issue. Like, if you want a real unbiased, like, like apart from all this shit that's happening now, but just, but it's just a look at what was going on at the border, um, around no vent pre just prior to the election, uh, channel five news with Andrew Callahan, he just goes out with a fucking camera and he goes and like, he went and talked to the people who were coming across and was

like, why are you coming? Where'd you come from? What, from? What are you going to do? And they'll talk about how they game the system and how they're not actually afraid of crime. They're just looking for a better life, et cetera, et cetera. And it's like, we will say that we're, uh, what will you tell them? We'll tell them we're scared. We're telling them we're scared. And it's, you know, there's a lot of that. And then the real worrying part was that it wasn't mostly Mexicans.

It was a sea of black faces. It was a sea of black faces they had caught. Like they were all sitting Indian style. It reminded me that El Salvador in prison, how they like stack them up. But they had like, I don't know, 150 black guys. And it's like they're all from the Middle East and Northern Africa that have made their way to South America. And then they've started walking up. I don't know I don't know I like the due process too I'd like more due process

because I don't want I feel like we got time right we've got you know an extra day or two to make sure someone really does need to go to the El Salvadorian death prison because I don't think anybody's getting out of there they're all gonna die there. And I think homeboys already dead more than likely. And if not, he's never coming back. I wish I could find somebody silly enough to take that bet with me.

That they'll let him go. You can find someone. You'll find someone in the discord that'll take that bet with you. Well, when do we like, like how long do we wait? Like, like six months, a year. He's never coming back. You got to put a cap on it for your bet.

Yeah. I want to never going to get paid. Man there. I watched the whole thing with the whole oval office thing where the El Salvadoran president. And then I've been watching the press briefings and with the blonde girl. Very cute. Love her. They're all so mean. What a chubby faced.

I don't think wrong with that. I think my bad. Yeah, true. True. True. At all. Woody, actually dude, I was, it was a compliment. You missed it.

And to think I was going to compliment your turtle shell glasses. I had some turtle shell glasses for a while and I like, I need to get some more. I like that look. But what I've noticed is that they're all mean. Everybody in the administration is mean now. It's like someone like put out the memo like be mean. Trump likes to see you be mean. And so like they'll ask her a question and she'll be like, I already answered that once.

Let's get you a dictionary. Could someone get him a dictionary? You want to look it up and like next Question and oh Karen I see you've got a chair today. Yes, ma'am Standing room only She's got it all have to be fit. Stay it up. Someone pull that chair out from her pull that chair out You dumb cunt you jump up and down. And I'll tell you, like, Mark Rubio, I don't think of Rubio as a guy who would go along

with craziness, but he's in the Oval Office and he's like, oh, he's never coming back. He's an MS-13 gang member. He was in this country illegally. He has been sent back to his home country and he is not coming back to ours. He's been designated a terrorist. The idea that we would import a terrorist from his home country to this country. And when you phrase it like that, of course,

of course, you have 90 tenants. Like Julian Assange, he's no friend of the blue team, right? He took the, I don't know, some embarrassing emails or stuff during the Hillary election and Wiki leaked them week after week, drip after drip. I don't even know what was in them. It was just bad news for the Democratic side. And they accused him of being a pedophile and wanted to punish him. So he's hiding out somewhere. And my take is, is there any proof of this pedophile thing? Or is that just a thing we say about people we don't like?

It's because he was- And that's where the MS-13- Russia, Russia, Russia. Land on me for this guy. Like, oh yeah, he's a gang member. He's in Trendy O'Rourke. Oh, he's not? Oh, get my bad, my bad.

MS-13, MS-13, he's in MS-13. Yeah, any proof? Anyone he knows in MS-13? Anything about MS-13 on his social media? Anything, anything, anything at all? Nope, zero, but I said it, so suck a dick. And I'm like, maybe just have some higher expectations. It'll be interesting to see what comes out about it. I wouldn't be surprised to see he had some

connection to it. But yeah, the end all of it for me is like, I am infinitely more concerned with American citizens' rights than I am with illegals. Like there's, if you get caught up in some deportation effort and you're an illegal immigrant, like that sucks, but that's your home country's problem now. Like it's up, if you're here from Honduras illegally and we go, you're an MS-13 or whatever, and they ship you back to Honduras, it's up to Honduras to handle that. If Honduras goes, you're an MS 13 or whatever, and they ship you back to Honduras. It's up to Honduras to handle that. If Honduras goes, you're an MS 13, we throw you in jail. And if they don't, they go, ah, well, you were still immigrated illegally to America.

We got to lock you up for that or whatever the fuck it would be. I think the conclusion you're drawing is the point of what they're doing. They want you to be scared. Like, oh, you're illegally? Well, sometimes we just throw you guys away for no fucking reason at all be scared self-deport Get out of here on your own and the cruelty and the show around it You know the the video they put out of shaving the heads and people not allowed to stand up walking bent over and say The cruelty is the point. It's this, they're trying to scare people

and believing on their own, which you probably like, but to me, cruelty is not something I value in an American president. I think it's, I'm more concerned with the cruelty of the crimes committed by the illegals against citizens. Like the fact that American boys and girls and men and women have been raped and murdered by these people is more concerning to me than that an illegal might get deported to the

wrong country or something. Look, the real problem here, the real crux of the issue is that they might get falsely designated a terrorist and sent to a death camp. That's what's happening. Look, I'm okay with them falsely being sent to Honduras too. Whoopsie daisy, enjoy the third world for a while. How's a Banana Republic treating you, bitch? Oh no, no cell phone service?

Weird, weird. Oh, you were from Guyana and not Honduras? Oh, sorry, beefed that one up. Get on a bus. Oh only have Kofi. No, not Ghana. We don't take Kofi. Guyana is a South American country. Yeah, that would be a fucking problem.

But that would be funny. I'm fine with that. But the problem is that this very specific situation where El Salvador has a gulag. And look, I don't fault El Salvador for having gulags. I make the best license plates. Because I watched that whole documentary about how awful their country was before and how it is the safest country now. And say what you will,

they did that's their fucking country. I don't like us designating people falsely, potentially, there's just not enough evidence. There's not, I keep Googling for just a shred, just a shred of evidence that he's in MS-13. I want him to, look, if he's here at all, he should be gone. He should be gone.

He should be gone no matter what. But like, he should have been on that other flight with the people who just like land and they're like, ah shucks. Like he should have gone that flight. Ah, they got us. We'll have to try again in the cooler. I think Kyle's right.

If the punishment for being here illegally was getting dropped in Venezuela with a single water bottle and figure the rest out. It wouldn't be the end of the world. But instead they're putting them in the El Salvador rapy to death prison. No, right. And what's that? Look, I don't. There's no raping?

I don't know how many deaths are happening there or if there are even good statistics on that, but it seems incredibly. Very much not a normal prison they're not allowed to talk they're not allowed to speak well i'm sure they're not housed separately my information i just make up on the fly i like the approach i like it they have they have rival kind of a gut feeling guy they have rival gangs in the same giant cell together. They can't they don't have blankets like these guys aren't even anymore. I so I would be I don't know. It's just what I've seen.

And they try to make it look as bad as they can. And yet when they when they talk to the guys, they're like, we're not allowed to speak. Just like like I think these guys are like good now. They've they've they've maybe I'm like misreading the room, but like, I don't see a lot of people like taking glee in that they're going to the El Salvador prison. It's similar to what you said, Woody, I would be just as happy. Because once they're out of America, I don't give a fuck. Like if they just airdropped them, and they all had parachutes or whatever, into that

would be sick into El Salvador. And they ended up being from Venezuela or Guyana or some other country. Like that's as good to me. Like I just want them gone. I don't care if El Salvador has them in a prison, like verse them just being on the streets of El Salvador because it's great El Salvador handled their violent problem. Awesome.

But I'm not El Salvadorian. And so it's not I don't really care. I don't have proof one way or the other. But are we sure they did a really good job of cleaning up the violence? Oh, yeah. Yeah. They were the most dangerous country in South America. And now they're the safest. They went and got anyone like locking up violent criminals has a very high ROI.

With gangs like that. It's one of those things where like they knew who the problem people were, but they couldn't go get them. It's like it. And when you look at the picture of them, I didn't see the part where they were all forcibly held down and given devil tattoos. It's not one or two of with like that. They all are tatted.

Their faces are all tatted up with like demons. It's a devil tattoo. You know, you're a bad guy when you're getting it That's like a movie thing Like if there was if there was a guy in a Captain America movie that had a devil tattoo You'd be like I know what his part is to play He's gonna be bad Yeah

Again that it the crux of the issue and I think we're I think all three of us agree If you really think about it, we should we should if we're gonna send someone to the El Salvador in Gulag, they should be an actual terrorist. And what I mean by terrorist is MS-13 gang member, you're going. Trento A. Aragwa gang member, oh, you're going. We can send the Crips and the Bloods if you're going to ask me. Yeah, how about this? Your food truck is overpriced. That's a form of terror. Dude, imagine if they designate the Crips and the Bloods terrorist organization. They could scoop up. So you're okay with the citizens. So long as they know. I'm joking. No, I'm joking. I'm sorry. I was going to say they go, they didn't go get Kendrick Lamar.

They've got a Crip walk your way all the way to Venezuela. You're pro-Drake in this thing. Absolutely not. No, no, I am pro Kendrick Lamar on that one. Drake is clearly a, I don't know about pedo, but he's definitely, he likes him young. What's the deal with, I don't know if there's a subject on earth I know less about than Drake versus Kendrick Lamar. Man, how have you not heard that fucking song? You've still haven't heard the song, have you? Not like us? No. Taylor, I know a comedian who lays it out. It's about 30 minutes, but it's pretty well told.

You allergic to culture? You will find yourself entertained and educated. Okay, well, if it's entertaining, Kyle, I'm not allergic to culture, but in the most important news, if the blues win tonight, they make the playoffs. If they lose tonight, they might miss the playoffs. It's a big deal.

They were locked in. They're not. Nope. No, that 12 game win streak was just enough to get them on the cost at the very end of the season. And so if they lose tonight to Utah, the Utah hockey club, by the way, fuck you come up with a name before you start a team. Don't say we're going to come up with a name next year, which is what they literally did.

We couldn't figure out a name. So we're Utah hockey club until we figure one out. How about the Utah Yetis? How about something bad? Actually, it's not bad. A lot of people were saying it's like, it's a good one. It could be like a big, scary monster, like a, an abominable snowman on the front. I sent you a video, but I just want the listeners want to hear it.

It's called Drake versus Kendrick. Explain to white people. Well, that's good. But I'm sure I'll get a laugh like the whole beef aside and the nitty gritty nonsense aside, like that song's got. I looked it up just now. It's like two billion streams in the last nine months or something. It's like six or seven million on YouTube

and like 1.3 billion on song. Yeah, but it's a song. Songs more than videos get enormous amounts of replay from the same people. So it's not like two billion people watch that. Like it's, you know. Yeah, yeah. Is he saying it's easier to get yeah

Oh, I listen to it late like 80 fucking times me. That's what I mean. It's like that's how someone does what I'm saying Is this is an incredibly popular piece of like modern culture? This is one of the greatest disses of all time This might ruin that guy's life like Like that guy, people think less of him now. The world thinks he's a pedophile. And I mean the world. Like the world, as far as he's fucking concerned, thinks he's a pedo now.

That's just on that one. There's another, he uploaded two versions. That's the full music video. But his previous version, that's just like a screenshot, a shot for the video is like 200 million or something crazy. It's like they million or something crazy. It's like they add up to 600. And so he really hates Drake.

Yeah, I think they used to be friends. And oh God, the video I sent you will explain it. And I think you'll even like it. He's a professional storyteller, he's a comedian. Sure. But basically maybe Drake had a list of who the best people were and Kendrick wasn't on it. He took offense to that. If that's not right, it's close and then like Kendrick

shot back and Drake reiterated and it just escalated until it became a full on diss thing. Yeah, Zach says Drake said it was the big three. J Cole, Drake, and Kendrick. Oh and maybe Kendrick said he stands alone, he's the big one and the other two are not on his level. I'm not sure, but that's what he took offense to, I don't know. As someone who doesn't know anything about hip hop culture,

I would consider Drake much bigger than Kendrick Lamar because I've heard of Drake many times for many years. So I haven't heard much about Kendrick Lamar. If you're like one on the hip hop scale, I'm a one and a half. Like I'm not. That's a good question, yeah. But Drake was bigger before this.

And I think Kendrick's was bigger after it. It's kind of like that right to you too. This is fucking his career up. This is like he's not saying stuff like you don't rap good and your shoes aren't tied straight. He's saying like you're a pedophile. You've gone after other people's women while they were in prison.

You're a scumbag, a liar, a cheat. People should watch their children around you. People shouldn't let their sisters near you. You're a problem. Oh, and also, you're not black. You're certainly not black enough to be saying that word. I don't like that you say that word. I don't think Kendrick went through due process on any of these accusations. I know how damaged Drake's career is. He's selling out a bunch of London venues right now, 445 pounds per ticket. And so he must be really hurting. Like wow, I bet this this is really destroyed.

I see you coming from like I'm not denying. Yeah. But also like, I don't know if Taylor has ever been as hated as I've been, but like when you're in the middle of the barrel, like when you're there in the furnace, it feels like the whole world's about you. Like you go on Reddit and suddenly it's directing like hate shit about me to me.

And I'm like, what, I'm just trying. Where do I go? Where do I go where I don't get hated? Like maybe Netflix, you know, I'm not talking about the old Netflix. And I can only imagine if you're Drake, it's a thousand times worse than I've ever felt. Oh, but a hundred percent.

I want that. That's why I was addressing only the career part. Like it looks like he's still, you know, doing well with his career, but yeah, that does have to suck because you know all of the core of who supports the hip hop world is less stoked on you at the very least

than they were a couple of years ago. And I don't even know what the, is there any for real evidence that he was doing stuff with underage girls? Is that real? for real evidence that he was doing stuff with underage girls? Is that real? Well, he doesn't say. He's always after... Yes. Yes. Yes, there is evidence. Okay. I didn't know that. Well, that changes things. I bet he is getting a lot of hate. I've seen him, what do you call it? Grooming. He's grooming 15 and 16-year-old female models

until they're 18 and stuff like I've seen him do that Um, and but i'm definitely not a uh, it's pretty ghoulish I just think the song's amazing. I can't believe you haven't fucking heard that song. Like I haven't heard it You know, i've been listening to a lot of delicate steve it's it's like Well, it's just like What else haven't you heard? Like I feel like I need this this would be like I feel like sometimes I'm talking to

somebody who woke up this be like, if I hadn't seen Tombstone, no, this is like way worse than not having seen. This is like, if you didn't know who Clint Eastwood was, I know that is. Yeah. Oh, nevermind. Then good, good, good, good. Yeah. I'm like, this is not seeing Tombstone for black people. not seeing Tombstone for black people.

I'll get people like, like at me, like I'll just go on Twitter and check my mentions and it'll be someone who, cause every it's funny every once in a while, someone will like be fired up over something that happened on the show four, five, eight years ago. And they'll be like, bro, you haven't seen fucking Tombstone. How do you even call yourself a real American? It's like, all right, so this guy just listened to an episode for 2018 and had to fire him up. Why? Have you seen it since? No. Then how do you know he didn't watch last week's episode? You know what's funny is Tombstone was being featured on Hulu. Don't watch it. And I started it, but it was so late at night,

I ended up turning it off and I went to bed. It's whatever, I don't care. No culture. It's fine. Lots of culture. I told you I've been listening to Delicate Steve. Delicate Steve. What is Delicate Steve?

Yeah, I thought I was the only one who didn't know. Is he a musician? Just a musician who makes super mellow guitar, acoustic kind of music. I like mellow music. I like stuff that makes me feel... Barry Manilow? I don't mind Barry Manilow.

I don't mind. I like mellow music. What does he sing? Is he the Coco Cabana guy? I found Delicate Steve through a meme where it was some guy who like does cartoons that are very funny and it was like a joke on like stoners. It was the uh the Scooby-Doo crew smoking like weed campsite and you know the shaggy characters like who are we listening to and then Fred's like

Delicate Steve he's like Delicate Steve. He's like, Delicate Steve. I like it. And then I looked it up and I was like, Delicate Steve's a real artist because the song and the meme was very good. And so I've just been listening to mellow music like that. I like very, do you remember trying to think other, remember Modest Mouse back in the day? Yeah. It was super mellow music. I liked that a lot. Alternative, that's alternative. Yeah, like I liked that too.

I liked that. As long as it's mellow music and a good movie. Remember like Modest Yahoo or whatever the- Modest Yahoo, the Jewish guy. He has some songs I really enjoy. Yep. Yeah, I think that's great. We have different tastes in songs.

The primary thing I want from music typically is a mood lifter. And that usually is like, I want a little more energy from it. I want a little more excitement from it. Maybe some joy if you can somehow manage that. But like it's got to kind of pop. It should be a bop, right? That's typically what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a bop. And I can see how someone would appreciate what you're looking for, but it's almost the opposite of what I'm targeting. I like some bop music. Like in college, that's when, I think freshman year of college

is when Party in the USA came out. And I liked it. Like every time that came on it, it wasn't even guilty. Everybody was loving it. Like it came on during frat parties or like house parties or whatever whatever and it's like man This is we are partying in the USA

That song is the desired effect I'm often looking for for music wave and flag I don't even know who sings it. Do you know that song? No, no, I bet you'd enjoyed it it's for some reason it's associated with soccer and It's just to pick me up. I like it. Yeah, yeah. I like what I don't like is angry music. Like I don't like heavy metal. I don't even like I'm a bitch so I don't like rock that's even super like hard rock. I like good mood, mellow, even super like hard rock. I like good mood, mellow, like, like yacht rock, or like boat music, or like relaxing mellow stuff that you could have kind of on in the background just enjoying it. That's always like, I went through a Frank Turner stage. He's a singer songwriter. I'm sorry,

Kyle, we started together. And I think you might enjoy it. how we started together. And I think you might enjoy it. I might. My favorite artist of all time is Elton John. I absolutely love Elton John. You can't go wrong with any Elton John song. They're fantastic. And so like that's usually a guy who's laughing. I like it. It's usually a go to. If I pull up my YouTube homepage, I guarantee Elton John is going to be on it. It's fantastic. He's going to be right here somewhere. I listen to a lot of Elton John too. I like it

all. I don't think he's got a bad song. I even like that fucking- They're all good. He did to Princess Diana. They're all really good. He's got an incredible voice. And I like his stuff when he's straight, when he's still straight. Crocodile Rock. You know Crocodile Rock. I remember when rock was young yeah it's fucking great. I don't care if he's gay or straight it's all good. Mentally I'm breaking like new ground and how gay I can be but I'm like I bet I could make Taylor a mixtape he really enjoys. Dude you just you just burned me a CD and put it in the mail. Woody jams with a Z. I'll be like playing the most high stress video game of all time with my friends,

Age of Empires, like 80 actions a minute. And I've just, I've got, I'm still standing, playing. That's usually where I start my John. What was your old school one for zombies? You had a song that I will forever associate with you. I like all that stuff, all that 70s shit. What was it? That one was a harder rock. As I've gotten older, I like that like loud,

abrasive music less. And I like the mellow stuff much more But I also like what you're saying like the boost up the pop music like like I'm still standing is much more like boom Like we're in a good mood. We're boosting We're here that you know, we're gay maxing what have you heard the new Kanye stuff? No They say that I'm acting like Hitler. How can I act like Hitler when I'm a fucking? No way. That's so, did he let me write it?

Let me find it. Let me find Bully for you. This is a good. I saw somebody else singing it. The Asian girl? Kanye. No, dude was like 400 pounds overweight. The one that I saw.

I saw a Chinese girl who's very pretty, but spoke no English. So she was phonetically singing the song and had no idea what she was saying. Though, like most of the exposure I have to Kanye's music was when that album, my super dark fantasy or my dark secret fantasy came out many years ago. And I guess that was more R&B mellow than his other stuff and so maybe I have an incorrect perspective on his overall music. Bobby! Yeah! Oh, that's good stuff.

Yeah, this isn't too bad. The top comment I haven't got to it yet is the hardest R in music history, bruh. Yeah, I like that. You know, it's weird. That's something that is a big part of media that we never ever address much on our show is music. We just really don't talk about it too much. TV, movies, all that. Let me give you one more line. Music, not very much. I voted for Trump, not Biden. Know some ninjas that went to that island. Why the fuck would you go to that island?

I bet it's catchy. I paused it, but I'll listen to it after this. I really dislike the rhyming of word with the same word. Don't like that. Also, I want to know who went to the island. Like we have two flight logs, but outside of Prince Andrew, I've never heard anyone who went to the,

like Trump's been on the plane. Clinton's been on the plane, but neither of them went to the island. Who went on their own plane? You know, who? Wait, you said that again? Yeah, who went on their, we know who went on Epstein's plane but

if you were trying to stay on keep it on the DL when you're going over there do some do the dirty if you knew what you were getting into you might just go on your own plane or take that's what I do for yonder I just take my own yeah dude you'd be getting no pussy all those all those babies they're fucking be like, go, go, got, got, I don't want to see me with this like skateboard helmet. They're like, no, no, you get, you don't get to access the temple of pussy, the temple of 14 year old girl pussy, but I don't have enough fuel to get back. Well, sorry. You have to sit in

the Stephen Hawking corner where he just kind of watches like a ghoul. Oh yeah, keep going. See, he was there. Remember that? That's a guy that was there. Yeah, he was on the island. I watched a really good podcast. I can it's maybe I could find it but um He's interviewing a guy who went to the island and he's not interviewing because he went to the island He's interviewing because he's one of the foremost geniuses in the world. He's a physics expert. He works at Harvard or somewhere and he's an expert in any number of things because he's an actual genius genius and And he's like, yeah, I he asked me and he was he told me he was an investment banker. And right away, I was like, that doesn't make any sense. What kind of that that doesn't make any sense. The amount of money that he's claiming

he's moving around the markets would have moved. I've seen it. I'd know about you. If you were doing what you claim to be doing. He said he worked. He said that that guy worked for Mossad. Mossad had him there as like, and that whole island was a Mossad operation. It was a big honeypot. And not only were they getting like political blackmail and, and, and maybe seeing if they could turn people toward their way to get information, people who might be involved with tech or information and stuff like that, like celebrities and politicians. But, um, he was also looking for like,

they were also looking at physics experts. They w they wanted to, like the foremost minds in physics. They were, they were, they were picking their brains about things. And he said something interesting. He said that when I got there, it was like the best way to rape. He said that there were like some weird mind games where the tablecloth was like an American flag. And, and, and there was this whole like, sort of disrespectfulness of, of, of like the, that he was being studied by, by Epstein. And it's really interesting to

hear him like talk about how weird that place was and everything he saw. And yeah, I think this name massage stuff you're saying, I think some people think that like you get there and it's like little girls running around naked everywhere, but that's the furthest thing from what it would ever be. There's staff there. You know what I mean? There's a back room somewhere where some shit's going down, and I bet there's cameras in it. Just like at Neverland Ranch with Michael Jackson, whether he did that shit or not, there weren't, he wouldn't have his dick out on the Ferris wheel, you know? He wasn't pouring Jesus juice into kids cups out in front of all the parents. He'd get you back in the mansion after

everybody went home and the staff is all retired for the evening. And then he gets you that Jesus juice. McCully? Yeah. Yeah. I would imagine that the honeypot thing makes total sense. And I've seen enough about that to be like, all right. And, you know, Masad also is known to have their finger in a lot of pies when it comes to, you know, U S diplomats and whatnot. So I buy that like, yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So I brought that up to say that I don't think Stephen Hawking was diddling little girls.

I think he was invited. I don't think he could. Oh, I think he could. He was all fucked up. I think some stuff. I am pretty sure when you're that crippled, like impulses to your penis. It like slowly took his stuff away,

but I think he'd still get a handy. Well, I asked when, like if he went there in the 80s, he was a different guy than he was recently. Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't, I would think it would have been a different, because like there's definitely more, maybe not islands, but there's more locations where stuff like this is going down. And so maybe it was a different guy than the next one. There's plenty of countries where the age of consent is just like

non-existent. So you don't need a private island in a dark cover conspiracy. You can just say, come here, where all of this is legal. There's plenty of countries where the age of consent is low and or prostitution is legal. It makes sense that'd be true. I never thought to Google it. I want you to go to Asia where there's no one's going on certain parts of Asia, obviously. Asia is a gargantuan quarter of the planet, but.

Well, if you want to do it in Africa, Niger pinkies up cause we can't call it. Nobody is going for the whorehouse. Yes. And guess what the age of consent in Niger is? Nine. Fuck. You did that thing. I do sometimes it's 13. Fire way too.

To ruin the point. Yeah. Argentina is 13. An old maid. You know, the lowest age I can find on my little list here is America, where it ranges from 11 to 18. But most states are 16 to 18. Yeah. Well, look, we're the land.

Eleven. That can't be real. That seems like one of those things where they're like, did you know there's a law on the books in Boston that you can't whistle by walking backwards on Sunday? And it's like, yeah, because there was one horrible guy in 1604 and they had to make a rule about it. Just stop it. You're bumping into everybody. I'm whistling.

Can't you hear me coming? We're making a law about you. You piece of shit. Yeah. That's that. That's up. That's up. No, I, I, I'm sure you can find of shit. Yeah, that's that adds up and it's up No, I I i'm sure you can't find where it's 11 plenty of 13s

Like I always hear that thailand is like it's just the thing that people do there that like I don't know that like when they catch up an actual pedo they'll It'll be because his wife found out that he was going to Thailand for business, but not business. And then she'll start investigating and there's this whole web of underaged nonsense and she'll rat him out. That's not what happened to him,

but the guy from Seventh Heaven, you remember that show? Yes. Seventh Heaven, I can see your smiling faces, smiling back at me. And then like Jessica Beale would come out. She was like 16, but you could tell he was going to be a good one. And that guy turned out to be a pedo and he he confessed to it in a marriage counseling therapy session with doctor confidentiality.

counseling therapy session with Dr. Confidentiality, his wife secretly recorded it and used it against him in the divorce proceedings. And now he is no longer a fucking actor. He is an inmate. Where's he an inmate at? I don't know. But I'm just saying like, look, as much as I don't like pedophiles, I hate conniving wives more. Like, look, I- That's what Stephen Collins is up to. Let's see, where is it? Does it say currently in- Cause he wasn't a practicing pedophile. He was confessing to like, oh, there was this time.

And he's crying while he confesses to like losing control and like touching some like underage guy. And she's like recorded that and used it against him. And I don't know how I feel about that. I don't like him or her. These were spread out in December 2014 interview with People. Collins admitted to inappropriate sexual conduct with three female minors in 73, 82, and 94 and I'm willing to bet there was more happening in that. Every 10 or 11 years, I just lose control. I can only follow it up for so long.

He's like that Star Trek race where they have to molest. That's the Vulcans. Yeah, the Vulcans go into the pond. Stephen Collins suffers from. Yeah, let's see. Is he in jail? It doesn't even... This guy's Wikipedia page fucking sucks.

I would make sure there was a vault. What was his name again today? Stephen Collins? He's 77. That's older than I thought. Or I guess, shit, seventh heaven. That was a long time ago. So that was-

Yeah, it was my little sisters like TV show growing up. He was in the original Star Trek movie, like Star Trek. It's called Star Trek, the motion picture. And the uniforms were awful. And you can see his dick. You can see his dick straight. They had these pants that didn't leave anything to the imagination, Taylor. And it's like I can I can count. I'm like, OK, there's the head and like, okay, he's got a, okay.

And then there's the shat. Oh, it's a little bigger there. And then it gets small. And then it's like, you can. Why'd they put them in those pants? They put everybody in those pants. That's how the uniforms were. In one shot for sure.

Then they put this like thing to cover it. Clearly they were like, hey, we'd see too much dick. And they put this thing to like cover his crotch on him. Yeah, it's a problem. Star Trek's got a lot of Dicks showing through the costumes. There's a there's a few Really bad examples over the years I'm guessing wharf to lose

Reading this very rapidly Skimming it but it looks like charges weren't brought against him, so maybe he never went to jail. Oh, I read that he's currently living with a woman half his age, which ruined his career. 35 is not that great. Yeah, half his age. It's a 38 and a half year old woman at this point. He couldn't get a third, I guess.

He's now robbing the grave now. Can I say that's where like this generation, like the current, like the people who are like 15 to 20, they're backwards, pants on your head, retarded with this like fear of any age gap at all. They want every, they don't want anyone to be with anyone who isn't exactly their same fucking age If there's like they would have a problem with that be like, oh, she's only a 38 year old woman She can't make her own decisions

Yeah 29 year old mother of two Yeah, they'll be a 24 like I know, uh, I know. Normal people grow out of, I mean, that's just, I would imagine that's just like kids on social media's way of like getting a quick signal where they're like, I'm 25 and I can't imagine dating a 21 year old. I'm so mature. That's what they say. That's what they say. I'm imagining it's like, I'll make it up, you know, 29 year olds, not wanting

competition from 23 year olds being like, what? You're 29. You're not accusing me instead. That's, that's what I paint. I think you, you couldn't have hit the nail more squarely on the head and that the people I would imagine being the most upset by this are like 37 year old women who are like why are all the 37 year old men fucking hot 24 year olds this is bigotry somehow it can't be me it can't be me that's off I have a lot to offer like lower fertility rates. I still have two eggs. So get in quick. Yeah, that's, well, that's pretty fucking gay and retarded. You know, we, you don't want young people thinking that any age gap relationship is

weird like, like treating a, a 55 year old dating a 17 year old the same way as you're treating like a 29 year old dating a, you know, 21 year old, whatever the more sane differences like that's ridiculous. It's that meme where it's like, uh, and I've seen this before where it's like an older guy and a younger woman and they're both like, I consent. And then it's like, isn't there someone you forgot to ask? And it's like some 35 year old woman who's like, I don't, I don't consent to this relationship.

Yeah, it's just a little- I saw that 4chan got apparently- That's a free market. I don't know enough about this, but just completely destroyed, taken down. Everybody got doxxed, all their like admins and the people running the thing. Yeah, all the Janneys.

IP addresses, locations, information, all the information on the site purged or something like that. I read something about that last night. Oh man, the site's down right now. I just tried to bounce to it. Really, can you confirm, Kyle, that like, what I heard was that they used to have a different board on

4chan called like question and answer or Q&A or something like that. And for some reason, 4chan banned that board and all the members of that board created their own site so they could still have that board in some form. And then that group just hacked and fucked up 4chan because they were like, Hey, that's what you fucking get for banning us. And then that group just hacked and fucked up 4chan because they were like, hey, that's what you fucking get for banning us. And then when I saw that, I'm like the question and answer, what a benign, like, why would what was going on in the Q&A? What was that code for?

That's what I wonder. Why did they get rid of Q&A? Because random was one of the dirtiest, most sketchy parts of 4chan. And on the surface, random just means anything, no order, right? But it turned out to be mostly like girlfriend revenge pictures. Gore.

And CP and it's just like the worst of the worst. And they kept B around. B is the random board. Like they kept that board around. So it couldn't have been like, how could it be worse than that? Maybe they were asking some questions that some people don't want answered. Like what, you know, what was the, what do we see the reading rate, the grade level was in America? It's not great. It's not great. Yeah. It'd be better. You ever see it broken down by demographics?

Yes. I have. And those statistics vibe racist. Do they vibe wrong? I didn't say wrong. I said me. Suddenly so much makes so much... Suddenly everything like makes sense when you realize that 25% of black people can read at their current level.

It was the high school graduation rates that I don't want to curl them in and get it wrong, but I was surprised at how low it was. And I was like, no, I need to fact check this. Oh, I don't like what I learned. In my high school, so in our county, there were three elementary schools that fed one middle school that fed one high school, if that makes sense. So

I didn't get to start elementary school with all of the Black kids. There were two other schools with Black kids in them. But in mine, by the time we got to middle school, I'll say, there was maybe 25 Black guys, 25 Black girls. By the time we graduated high school, and I was near the bottom of my class, I went by the edge of my teeth on purpose. I literally stopped going to the classes that I didn't need to graduate at the end. I didn't need those credits. You won't find me passing judgment.

I took zeros on purpose, but they like I didn't go. I'm teasing you. Yeah, I know. And but anyway, I graduated. And yet there were two black people who graduated that year. One of them had been taken under the wing of the administrator and like, you could do this. We could do this together. And the other one, her mother was a teacher at the high school. That was the two students who graduated high school. So she was making sure there was no fuckery because my mom was a teacher.

I would have been on, I would have been grinding. Meanwhile, on the white side, everyone who, everyone graduated except for, shit, everyone graduated. Every, all of them graduated. Like no one was left behind. Oh, big W for Missouri here. I don't remember anyone being left behind who didn't have like

like a medical thing where they had to like leave school at some point or something crazy. I don't remember that happening. Yeah. Who's the lowest? Who's the loser? Oh, California. Huge owl. Hold this out. Who's the big winner? New Jersey. Isn't New Jersey? No. Washington state.

Old New Hampshire. New Hampshire looks like the winner, right? 94.2% New Hampshire. I don't see better. That's a little embarrassing for places like Wyoming. They should be able to get it up in the high nineties, frankly. There's only like 200,000 people there.

Like get it together. But that makeseties, frankly, there's, there's only like 200,000 people there. I like get it together. Um, but that makes sense. Minnesota does really well. Minnesota almost as nice as New Hampshire. You're going to want to look at our demographics. The poultry industry here is huge. Um, and then we also have a little thing called Atlanta. We know the reason Kyle. We're just not.

I just wish that the colors were different. Nah, you just got to fight your way into being a green state. There's no excuse for it. California is taking a big L. I wonder what the causes are. There's a tremendous amount of Hispanics that don't speak English.

Well, not only that, just Hispanic reading levels are very similar to African-American reading levels. They're only like, yes. Yes. OK. Asians are Asians are. I don't remember. The numbers didn't make sense to me.

Like they were they were there was a point system and it was like Asians are 224 points and whites have 200 points. And then way down here, we had 70 and 85. We have the Hispanics and blacks. I'm just making this up but I bet in California the pockets between like the successful and unsuccessful are really extreme that there's like some hundred percents and then three towns over some 15 percents. Yeah and it's also because like I, this isn't a bad thing. We should be testing literacy based on English. That's our language here. But like the majority of kids in school in California

are Hispanic. Kids pick that up fast. That's not an excuse. That's not an excuse. Like, but they're like speaking Spanish at home and stuff. And so it's not as, I guess, it's not as natural to pick up a second language. So I guess I don't think it's happening, then maybe so. That would be my guess. I don't fucking know. I think it's cultural. I mean, you've seen what happens when like, I've seen black people get mocked for speaking proper.

Like, there's a whole bit about it in the Detroiters where the black guy meets a girl and she's like, why are you speaking all proper? And he's like, shit, I don't speak proper. Like he tries to like put on a black person voice. I saw a key and peel sketch. Like maybe it was the first one ever where it was like the black guy talking to his wife. Like he just left a yoga class or something and some other guy walks up and they both transition like code switch into like trying to sound hard.

And then as key or whatever one is like walking across the street to get away, he's changed his voice and he's like, Oh my God, Susan, I was almost just mugged. Yeah. If part of your culture is like mocking and deriding people who try to be educated, then you're probably not going to be a very well educated. Sucks reading rules. I can't imagine a reality where I can't read well. What's your current book? Do you have one? Right now I'm reading Under the Dome by Stephen King.

Oh. Kind of on a popcorn reading thing. I got this thing I've still been fucking around with. I'm only like halfway through it. It's thin, but I keep getting distracted by other stuff. This is fun. This is aliens go to 1300s England and pick off more than that bite off more than they can chew with the Knights That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's an interesting little this have you heard of the under the dome book? Yeah. Oh you read it

Yeah, it's a I've read most of the so Stephen King has like I like Stephen King novels. So but I've read a two dozen of them, something like that. And I've read like a couple books of the short stories that like each one of them have like five stories aren't as good. I disagree. Some of them are well, they're hit or miss. Short stories. I like short stories. The Mist is a short story. The Frank Darabond made the Mist, the movie that you've seen. Yeah. The movie's better, has a better ending. It has that dark, dark ending in the car with the revolver. Whereas in the book, it's just left open-ended. It's like, and they drove off into the mist. Is the rest of the world The Mist or is the next town safe? They don't know and I don't know.

But I have to go find some cocaine. How do you pronounce this word? Is it novella? Novela? What is that? Novella. Novella. Yeah. I think that's somewhere between like a short story and a full story. And that's my favorite spot. I'm reading Atomic Habits. It's different than your thing. It's about how like doing small things better every day add up to be important changes in yourself. It's like a self-improvement thing. Okay.

Yeah. I haven't read much of that genre. That idea. I like books are dope. They make me the best version of me for about six months. And then you have to rewater this garden. It's not a permanent change, but, but I like them for that. Almost all the books I read, like I oscillate between like something about like history or politics, mostly history. And then I will tire of that and pivot to like popcorn books. And Stephen King is always my go-to for that. Like I literally started Under the Dome like five years ago, and it's an 11, 1200 page book. It's a long book. It's a long book. How old is it? He mentions Obama in it being the president.

It's probably like 2008, 2009 would be my guess. And it spends quite literally hundreds of pages on the setup. And I think last time I tried starting it, I had just finished Stormlight Archive, which is much more fast paced. And I just got tired of it and switched to something else. Now I'm like in the right tempo for it and it's really good. I'm only like 400, 500 pages in. It's one of the... The thing with Stephen King is that he has the most incredible premises of any horror writer, like thriller writer, but he struggles,

and this is part of the reason I don't like his short stories as much as a lot of other people, he struggles to tie it in at the end. He kind of relies on like, oh, well, there was just something fantastical that'll never be understood. That was the impetus of all this. He writes two thirds of a great book

and hands it off to an intern. Yeah, he really is. His premises are so fucking intriguing and interesting that it carries the book most of the way, and then it doesn't end awesome. It doesn't end the way that you wanted it to. Do you plan on watching the TV show? Oh, it's under the dome's a TV show?

Yeah. Yes. Oh, well then after I read it, yeah. I Googled it because you told me about it. And I was like, Oh, I thought you would know already. I did not. The first episode is worth watching. So that because and you've probably gotten to this in the book, there's that huge setup. And then the dome comes down. And when the dome comes down, yeah, okay, suddenly you cut to everywhere where the dome is being interacted to first a plane crashes into it. And then there's a car accident and there's a fire. The fire department can't get across and the badger gets cut in half. Yeah. Like

many things. And in the show, like getting to see all that is great. Like the character stuff doesn't work because you can't put 1200 pages worth of character development into a TV show properly without it being season upon season and hundreds of hours and shit but it's an okay book. 1122-1122-63 like like I think that him taking the time travel thing and it's a weird time travel thing and then mixing that with all the historical stuff, facts, all the historical facts like he he's able to build on that lattice work and do a better job than he normally does. That's my favorite of his by far. The ending, some people don't like, I don't think Woody likes the ending. I didn't care about the president at

the end, I cared about his girlfriend. I cared about his love interest because there's a love story hidden right in the, not even hidden, there's a love story hidden right in the not even hidden There's a love story right in the middle of his journey to save JFK after traveling back in time because he doesn't get to travel to like the week before or any specific time before the the time travel Mechanism takes him to like Three or four years before the assassination it only comes to him after he's realized he can do that I that he can travel back in time. He's like Holy shit, I could say JFK and you know, I if you know a little bit about history

You know that that would have kept us out of Vietnam and that would have ushered in tons more social change Perhaps the Cold War ends 30 fucking years earlier than it did all all sorts of things could have gone better for us. Certainly 50,000 Americans wouldn't have died in Asia. So it's great. He he finally recommended the book over the show. I didn't mind the show. I thought the show was pretty good, too.

11, 263 is has a show with what's his name? I can't think of the James Franco and Franco. Thanks. He does a pretty good job. The thing about that book 11 2263 is it kicked off a little bit of a fascination with me with different kinds of time travel rules, right? The typical rule is like the back to the future. I go back to the future, make a little change, it has butterfly effect on the future. And that's it, right? And you zip around and try to make it as cool as you can,

probably selfishly. This book, there's a room that takes you to a specific place in time. And then as you move forward in that time, you age. So you don't wanna spend like 15 years there and come out looking like a whole different view, even though time hasn't passed. But you can go back, alter it, whatever.

And then it kicked me off to another book where somebody put a sphere around our planet so that, trying to remember which way it went, time very much slowed down for us, but the rest of the universe kept experiencing time at the normal rate. So they would do cool things like terraform Mars, you know, where you just like find a plant

that can grow there, that produces a little oxygen. And sure it takes a hundred million years, but for us that's like 75 years, so whatever. And I just like people who have a new twist on the rules of your kind of time travel dilation, you name it. Yeah, I like novel premises. And in Warhammer, I probably mentioned it before, but they go into like subspace called the warp

to travel faster than light from one point to the other. That used to be a more reliable system, but because of a lot of events, it no longer is. Sometimes they'll try to just, they're just trying to go from this planet to that planet on the other side of the galaxy and they'll come back a hundred years later. So like every now and then like time travelers just arise

and they don't know what's happened. And they're like, they're attacking the wrong people. Like people from thousands of years ago show up. They just get dropped into the current time. There's tons of that in uh, and warhammer 40 Henry cavill gonna put out that show I feel like the warhammer universe is this really well fleshed out amazing story that

I want fed to me in Easy to swallow bites. Yeah I don't want to go through kyle's deep dive to swallow bites. Yeah. I don't want to go through Kyle's deep dive, I don't know what to call it, arc, you know, like period. I just want like last of us fed to us over 13 episodes. There's a game.

So Space Marine 2 came out. I don't know if it'd be your cup of tea. There's some dodging and parrying when you fight the bosses and the game, it's difficult. But it tells a nice little chunk of Warhammer lore. It's like a novel in a game. It's beautiful and it's cool. I couldn't get into it.

I didn't love the gameplay. I didn't like the, I don't like all the parrying and dodging. That's not my style. Yeah. You won't like Night Rain comes out May 30th and I am a six year old waiting for Christmas at this point. Like when is night rain gonna drop? This is the thing I really everything I'm doing between now and night rain is just me wishing I was six weeks older. If you're gonna do so, I'd appreciate that.

I like the game you're playing now. I popped in the other day just to, you know, the games you play are really cool. Like visually they're very cool games. And I like that. It's not my style of game to play, but watching it is neat. And I saw you playing lies of P or pie. Is that right?

Yeah. He stands for Pinocchio. Okay. Oh, the lies of Pinocchio. And you were fighting this like ghastlyly like robot man that would pivot between like crawling at you and smacking you and standing up and being scary. And you were like, I'm mashing sprint backwards and this fucking retard isn't listening. I know I see in the chat you're telling me to run backwards. There's no way to do it faster. I'm telling it. And then it waits half a day and then it starts moving backwards and I get smacked in the chat you're telling me to run backwards. There's no way to do it faster I'm telling it and then it waits half a day and then it starts moving backwards and I get smacked in the head

And I saw you die once and I was like that does look frustrating I had just transitioned from a game. That's probably the most responsive in the genre to one. That's not and uh, like Basically after you do anything there are these dead frames is what it's called, where your character doesn't respond to inputs for some period of time, but you desperately want it to. So now I have to like predict when he might do something because the dead frames are so long.

Today I got good enough to start enjoying it, but that what you're saying happened, happened. That's all true. That's funny,. It's funny. Like chat seemed to be enjoying it. I'm sure you weren't enjoying it because you were trying to kill this, this automaton. It wasn't working. He's dead.

Today was the, today was the release of patch eight for Baldur's gate. I've been waiting on it for two months or something like that. I wasn't able to get into the testing beta. They added 12 new subclasses and they fixed a bunch of shit. It's so much work. This is what another company would have split what they did today into half and they'd have charged $10 or $20 each time for what they gave us free today. They gave us free. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Just they've been working tirelessly in Sweden or Belgium or wherever the fuck they are. And it's like clear. And they didn't get lazy. They didn't just use the old animations. It's new animations, new, new everything.

It's so cool what they do. Have you tried it? Do you like it? I've been playing all day. I got up at six AM and I waited all day. I got up at 6am and I waited like at my PC for them to like release the patch so I could start playing. Is that what you're doing as soon as we hang up here? Right. That's what I've done before. And it's what I'm doing after. Yeah, I've been grinding all day. In my genre, the Souls community from software is the name of the premium company. They're the one that unquestionably the top of the genre. They make the best games. They made Elden Ring and it's Elden Ring's been a while. So now like this new company dropped Kazan, Nexon and everyone's like, oh, this is really good. They love it so much in the Souls community. Meanwhile, FromSoft announced a console exclusive is coming next and not just

a console exclusive but a Switch 2 console exclusive. And now there's a bunch of us that are like, you know what? Double fuck you. Nexon, what else you got? I heard about this. I heard about this. I think maybe like one of the devs said something that nobody liked it like on stage or something too. He's like, well, you know, maybe he was pushing a phone game or a mobile game. He's like, y'all have phones. What's going on? It's like, I think they wanted a real title. Oh, and other game news. They put, they're releasing oblivion remastered. You seen that Taylor? I have not. Oh wait, no, I saw a screenshot of it and it made me,

cause I've never played oblivion, the Oblivion. I played Skyrim as soon as it came out when I was in college. And it's one of those things where the same reason you got me into Fallout, but I only ever played Fallout 4, I tried New Vegas and it was just so clunky and ugly. And the intuitiveness wasn't there that I couldn't enjoy it the same way you did when like that's just what it was but that's the same feeling with oblivion like I've tried oblivion before I made a funny-looking character and then I started it and I'm like oh so this doesn't have any of the quality of life stuff of Skyrim it's more of an RPG not for me yeah and so I will a hundred percent play remastered oblivion.

I'm going to have to hide that from my girlfriend because she's still, she's addicted to all these fallout Skyrim games. A good RPG has options at every turn. Every, every time you interact with the world in any kind of way whatsoever, there's, there should be two, at least two options. I shouldn't run into somebody and they just start shooting me and that's's Fallout 4. You walk around and they see, the bad guys see you and they start shooting you because you're the good guy and they're the bad guys.

In a real RPG, you approach them and you deceive them. You perceive something about them that allows you to manipulate them. You know, you convince them, you've joined them maybe and be evil. Like you have all those options. You'd be like, why are you using those small guns to shoot the children? What you want is a shotgun. Watch this. And you blow up the child, you know, but you don't have any of that role playing aspect there. It's just a shooter

on rails to some extent with the illusion of being a role playing game, which isn't bad, but it's not RPG. Yeah. During gaming, the AOE released their biggest patch ever. They added even more civs. They're up to like 51 now, or when it comes out in May, it'll be up to 51. It's so many. And like, I was, me and all my friends who play, because we have a big group that play regularly, like we're all like, this is sick.

This is awesome. Like even more civs, more strategy, more mechanics, like all these fun things in this RTS game. And apparently that's not the take of like the, the Tism Lords, a lot of the Tism Lords who love this game, because the new patch is adding more Chinese sieves. And so like, it's called Three Kingdoms, three of them, like the, the She, the Wu, the Wei, like, like three of them, like the Shea, the Wu, the Wei, like three of them are called the three kingdoms because I guess there was a period in like the third century where China was ruled by three kingdoms. And so they added those and you got these people being like, those weren't even civilizations compared to like the, you know, the Saracens or the fucking Celts or the Britons or the million other fucking

Sibs in the game. And just the whole the whole Reddit forum, the whole AOE to Reddit, all of them were throwing spaz outs over this. And like, like highly upvoted posts were like, I just how am I supposed to believe that a cavalry, a special cavalry from the third century has more armor than a Frankish paladin in 1620 and that it wins a 1v1 and it's like, brah, like, did you have problems when you take a Aztec galleon and attack a Celtish bombard cannon or a, like, do you have problems with that? No. My problem would be that there are nothing, like as long as it adds more strategy and mechanics,

that's what I want in RTS. I want it to be complicated. I want it to be hard. I want to have to reevaluate strategy and like all these storytelling in your game. No, there's camp, there's a camp, there's a whole campaign section. There's like hundreds of campaign levels, but I don't do campaign.

I just do multiplayer and like a quick match. I've come to realize I hate storytelling in game. I'm not really gifted with patients by default, right? But the gamer version of me, like I walk up to a blacksmith and he's like, I'm surprised you're still alive. What can you do? What can I do for you? You could fucking cut that by 11 words next time. Work on my sword. You fucking shit head. Why am I listening to you say this every time? You're always surprised I'm alive. Have you not realized my competence by now?

Are you new in Riften? Are you new in Riften? Yeah, I don't. My family has been blacksmithing in Riften for many generations. Oh, that was a big story. Just sell me iron ingots so I can goose my blacksmithing numbers, you bitch. Yeah, but these people are throwing tantrums over it. And it's like you're really mad. Like the only thing to be mad like first of all you think that there's any world that that that if we're making okay let's make this game 100 historic. You think the Incas are

gonna have a shot against the Spanish? No they're not And it would ruin the game. That's why you have to give the Incas some juice here. Give them galleons. Give them tough swords. That's how a game works. I like that it's not relegated to just European civilizations. It's more fun when more stuff is added even if it's not like like the An infinite number of things about this game aren't realistic and this is where you're taking umbridge that this Chinese cavalry couldn't compete against Paladin like like are they overpowered in some way or they just mad about the representation or they mad that say their favorite Civ didn't get added? Because by the way, 50 plus Civs is ridiculous. They're having 50 plus civilizations on this planet that mattered. Like, like, like, what did the like, like that's absurd. 50. Yeah, they have like subsections of it.

So it's like the Franks are like the big French ones. But then there's also the Burgundians, which were like a subsection of French people. The only Mesoamerican Civs are the Aztecs, the Mayans, and the Incas because they do limit it to like pre-1500 or so. No, because we didn't, like they're the only civs here at the time this game takes place were like stone age, you know, tribes. And so it wouldn't work. They found some footprints. Give them some galleons. They found some footprints. They found some galleons. It's fine. You know, tribes. And so it wouldn't, it wouldn't work. They found some footprints. Give them some galleons. They found some footprints in New Mexico. They found some galleons. It's fine. You know, I would rather the Aztecs, Incas and Mayas

be in the game than remove them. So you'd be okay with putting like the Cherokee in the game and giving them some galleons so long as they're balanced and interesting to play. Yeah, as long as they're balanced and interesting. Like I just want the total number of civs is part of what makes it fun. Like, because you have to know how to play each one. You have to be able to anticipate how your opponent is going.

If Kyle loads in in a 1v1, and I'm playing the Hindustanis, and he's playing the Franks, I have an idea of what he's likely to go for. And that's gonna change my original plan to something else because I know what he's likely to go for. Now he's gonna have an idea if he's played the game, what I'm likely to go for as the Stan's going to have an idea if he's played the game, what I'm likely to go for

as the as the Stanis. And so maybe that adapts his plan. And so it's like a it's a, you know, a repartee back and forth of like countering, figuring out how to push. It's it's fun. I'm much more invested in the game, having variety and being fun. The only thing they have a point on is they're like, they added some like hero units. And it's like, no, this isn't League of Legends. Like you shouldn't have hero units. That doesn't seem very fair, especially.

What is that like small units, but very powerful in small units, but very powerful with area of effect. So it's like, you can get some guy named Choo Chui as one of the new Chinese SIVs and it's like, okay, well they don't have that hero for all the Chinese SIVs. And it's like, okay, well, they don't have that hero for all the other SIVs. And that's not really, they were, all the people on the forums are spazzing out being like, they're gonna be so OP, they're gonna be so overpowered. And it's like, well, they cost a thousand resources each.

And so I think I'd rather have- They're selling copies to China. Yeah, they're selling copies to China. Yeah. Is it, this expansion? Does it cost money? Yes. Are the new ones better than the old ones such that you could buy like an advantage? Usually there's at least one unit in a new one that's very good every once in a while, but not always because they released the Armenians and the Georgians about a year and a half ago.

And the Georgians came out of the gate fucking ago. And the Georgians came out of the gate fucking fantastic. And the Armenians came out of the gate just slugs, absolute losers. Like I have, there's something in the game where you can select to have a random Civ assigned to you. And so, because I'm better at the game than my friends I play with, I let, not I let them, they all pick what Civ they want.

So they go in with a plan and I always play random. But you can also do custom where you can star a selection of civilizations and then exclude some and go random within that group. I have a custom group where every single Civ in the game is selected other than Armenians. And I use that to like go random because nothing like ruins my game more than like, I got the fucking Armenians.

I hate the Armenians. It's made me just like I'm in real life. Do you ever do a system where like if you're going to play like a four person, like free for all or whatever, like you do picks and bands? We don't do picks and bands. The way to keep it fair is like, I'll leave diplomacy open so that you can make alliances throughout the game. But to keep it fair, like I am that you can make alliances throughout the game. But to keep it fair, like I am not allowed to make alliances.

Like I have to be alone the whole time. Yeah. Picks and bans would take too long because there's so much to pick and so much to ban. Like this is like everybody picks like three sieves they want and two sieves they want they want to ban and then okay. Yeah. That's how like pros do it. Like where they like go back and forth where like you we do say I'm banning Chinese shit all right

well I'm banning Hindustanis okay well I'm banning Celts I'm banning Bohemians and then they would often ban like the late like it you would ban the ones that that peak early that are that are more like like Mongolians are going to get their horse archers or whatever and fun. Yeah, we do. Yeah, they're going to fucking come at you early with horse archers because they that's an early tech that they were incredible at and they'll sweep across your lands and you you don't have enough time to get your Egyptian horse archers out or chariots or what have you or your Macedonian phalanx doesn't get created in time. It was a weird ban shit like that. Yeah, I that makes sense.

Usually in games like that, the new DLC is better. It's overpowered and then they know overpowered and then they nerf it down. That's what warhammer does. It's on a cycle. You can almost like predict, oh, the new things. Oh, that's going to be so good. And it will be. And then they'll nerf it into the ground and then they'll buff it back.

And like, like when the new DLC comes out, but the new DLC will be overpowered too. Oh dude, the only, like, it's been like the worst army composition as far as effectiveness, but all the multiplayer games I've been doing recently are just using new units, I'm only playing Koreans and I'm only making fire lancers, which are these guys with lances that shoot. They get like every 30 seconds, they can shoot a rocket for range. And then the other thing is they used to just have catapults. They replaced the catapults with something called rocket carts. And as you guessed, it's a cart that shoots rockets. And so my entire army composition is like, other people on my team will be like, please make skirmishers. And I'm like, no, no, only this. I will only make the brand new units. Cause it's fun. Have you heard of a game called war of rights? Maybe you've mentioned it to me.

War of rights is a civil war game. There are only about a thousand people in the world that play this game. But the thing is they play it together at the same time So like there'll only be like one like battle going on But it'll be 300 versus 300 or 150 it'll be 150 150 early in the morning and it's Confederates versus the Yankees and you have muskets with bayonets and there's cannons and stuff and do to reload a musket. Oh my God. You have to do every step. You're putting the ramrod away. You're cocking it. You're actively doing it or you just have to wait. You just have to wait. Meanwhile, it's like

it's civil war combat. So the, the, the, the, the, the reps are coming, dude. When the reps charge, you can hear them coming from a couple hundred yards away Doing that rebel Yale, it's legitimately intimidating it's scary that they come running across that field with that flag and There's a hundred of them and we're mowing them down. But when they get to us, they're bayoneting They're just running through a stabbing everybody. It was I don't think the US ever. This is this is this game looks better than I imagined. So the cool thing about the game is as each match starts, they give you a history lesson and a map flyover. Like this was the battle of Jaseps Ferry Union.

Union General Grant had marched up the m Mississippi and he positioned his men here on the hilltop. Little did he know. And then they like panned the map around to like some house behind the governor's mansion, the Rebs taken up position and they had four cannon pieces and 30 regiments or whatever. They break it down and give you a history lesson. And then you start to go. I just watched a clip and you're it. It's like 10 real time seconds for this guy to reload. At least, at least 10. It's and like I'm in a bush hiding and I'm shooting the enemy cannon people.

They're all like, they're having to load it, swab it, pick up a shell, carry it to it. And I peek out the bush and shoot at one and then go back in the bush. I'm just like, start my 15 second reload and then peek out and shoot again. The game finally ends. And I'm like, I wonder how many I got. One, one guy, the whole game, the whole game, because it's a musket. You don't have it.

First of all, you can't hold it straight and there are no sites. So you just kind of point at people and then you're just smoke goes up So you don't know if you hit them you're just kind of winging it. That's pretty cool It's it's a bizarre game. It I've never played anything like it There's a lot everybody is talking in game and they're role playing and they're role playing line up line up man We're fighting for our bells back home. We gonna keep them dockies in chains. What are them yanks like it or not?

And like, whoa, whoa, dude, chill with that. Chill with that though. I'm gonna make it so historically realistic that you can say it. A little bit of that. There's a lot of- Only Kanye can say it. Only Kanye.

All right, well that was fun. Yeah. What was this? PKN 556.