Painkiller Already - PKN 561

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pkn561, how you guys doing? Pretty good, pretty good. Doing solid. Weather's beautiful outside, finally not sick anymore, got to go outside today, do some yard work, felt good. Nice, what yard work? I'm like, you know. I had to clean up the whole backyard,
Starting point is 00:00:18 it's all grown up from me not tending to it. I felt so awful for days and days and days. I'm still not like well, well, like I'm still hacking up nasty shit, but it's good to be not sick again. You don't sound bad. No, I'm fine now as far as that goes. We've had, uh, some wild tornadoes here. I saw like it's last night and I guess like just living in the Midwest my whole life.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I always feel like it's not going to hit me like the, you know, the famous last words thing. Like last night I was playing oblivion in my living room, like late at night, and I'm stoned. I had just bought a new vape and I'd been tooting on it for a bit. And so I was pretty primo stoned. I had my snacks next to me and I was playing Oblivion, you know, going, starting the Dark Brotherhood quest,
Starting point is 00:01:10 which I had never finished. And I heard from everybody about Oblivion. They're like, dude, Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion is way better than Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim. I thought it sucked. I've now finished it. It's on par with the Dark Brotherhood from Skyrim. It's no better, no worse.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It was pretty similar. The only cool part is that at the end of it, that one thing that was way better is in Oblivion, you go to some higher level guy near the end of it and he's like, what you must now do to finalize your quest is kill every member of the Dark Brotherhood in Chainedal. Like the people you'd been cavorting with and getting quests from. He's like, they have betrayed their oaths and now it is time for them to pay.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And so you have to like kind of be very sneaky as you kill all of them. But that was very fun. But anyway, it was it was raining cats and dogs and it was one of those like I can see a lot of trees through my skylights even when it's dark out like I could see them through the the the peels of lightning and they were they were bending big time and then they started playing that like I don't know if you guys have tornado sirens often more you are but they they come on all the time here and I was literally like if I die die, I die. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I'm just gonna, because in my head I'm like, man, it sounds really dangerous out there. But then the other part of me was like, you're gonna unplug your Xbox and take it in the basement and bring your snacks down there. That's the only possible option too. That was the only one. Is unplugging your Xbox and going to shelter. I had to. Rewind just one second. What was I gonna say? Oh, about tornado sirens? Yeah, I remember when they installed the tornado siren
Starting point is 00:02:58 where we were. Yeah, they had tornadoes all across the Midwest though. I saw they were from Colorado, Missouri. I saw stuff in Kentucky, maybe. If you count that as Midwest, kind of, kind of, I guess, not really. Yeah, a little bit. Isn't it on the eastern side of the Midwest? Part of this Midwest. Yeah, not all of it. Yeah. Crazy tornadoes. We have not so many here, but we do have those sirens,
Starting point is 00:03:19 which I'm always thankful for when they go off. I usually leave my Xbox. Nah, it's fucking fine. Don't worry about it. What if your save files on it? Come on, you can't depend on the cloud. Exactly. It's a fucking. Think it through Kyle. It's a Bethesda game.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. Clouds never failed me. Do they test yours every Monday in tornado season? No. That's what they do here. No, but there are regular tests like Like you hear it in, you know, middle of the day on a sunny day. Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo But it's like, yeah. And it's one of those weird things where like, I saw Euros, Europeans, like making fun of like how American houses were getting shredded
Starting point is 00:04:10 and torn apart by it. And someone had to be like, dudes, you straight up don't have tornadoes. Like it is a global phenomenon that almost is entirely localized in the American Midwest. Which is a weird thing when you think about it, like the whole world, the whole globe, and almost all of them are in like Oklahoma, Missouri, Iowa, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:37 Western Kentucky tornado alley. But really it's just, I don't know about you guys, or if you get huge thunderstorms out there regularly, I would imagine Atlanta does, and maybe North Carolina. I love it. Like I have memories of like laying in bed as a kid and it's just wild outside and you're like, man, I'm cozy, I'm cozied up.
Starting point is 00:05:00 See, when the electricity goes out and you have a chicken farm they immediately start dying because their oxygen is cut off so you have to be there in your truck in the storm next to the generator so that when the power does flip off you have to jump off and you know get that bitch fired up and get those make sure that 150,000 chickens don't suffocate tonight. So it's, there's no thought of like, oh, I'm getting wet. You're just wet.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You're just in a storm by yourself getting thunderstormed on. It's a, so no, when there were thunderstorms growing off, it was never like, ooh, lightning. It was like, oh no, lightning. Oh no, a lot of work. Cause we had- I enjoy Taylor's version of that. Like, oh, you know, like I'm in here.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Cause I feel that way about snow. Oftentimes like I'm so cozy inside and outside. It's a nightmare, but in here, it's just beautiful. But as an adult, like I am everybody's problem solver. You know, it's just like, if anything happens, my phone rings, my texts start coming in. I have to set up a generator, run cords, I'm the one who goes outside, I got the problems.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah. And if there's a tree falls, if there's branches in the yard, like, you name a problem, it's Woody's name attached to it. Oh yeah. And also- It makes it less fun. Yeah. The thunderstorms where we were would regularly wash bridges and roads out and it would be one time the whole Road that led to the farm washed away and not just a little like you
Starting point is 00:06:32 You you drove and you stopped and you got out and looked in front of the truck and there's a cliff in front of you A raging river right after that and another cliff over there where the farm is and it's like, oh fuck It would always that happens there where the farm is and it's like, Oh, fuck. It would always, that happened three or four times over the course of 20 years where just like everything washed away. Everything was lost. That blows. Well, the way you guys describe it, it sounds a lot less cozy. And then one time we had, and then one afternoon lightning struck and burnt down a $380,000 building.
Starting point is 00:07:07 That's a horrible day. Oh yeah, that sucked. Yeah. Do you guys get the green sky? Yeah. When like tornadoes are afoot? It does all sorts of scary stuff, man. We've got, we don't have that Midwestern thing. We certainly don't have the flat terrain
Starting point is 00:07:23 that really exacerbates, I think, the tornado situation. But we do have that Gulf of Mexico hot, wet air coming up and colliding with that cold, dry air that's coming down from Canada or wherever the fuck and just colliding right on us and making some nasty shit happen. I'm no meteorologist, but I've lived through a bunch of big storms. Yeah, I'm no meteorologist either. I think we can all admit that. You know, I could have been amateur meteorologist where I dabble. I dabble. And by that, I mean, I check the radar when it's wild.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I do dabble. Now that that's what I was going to say earlier. When you're playing Xbox, I will often pull up the, uh, the Doppler radar, like live cam on my other monitor and be like, ah, but then right now you can take an orange blob over, over my house. And I'm like, Ooh, I don't have a basement. I always tell myself, I'm like, I'm in one of the hilliest areas of St. Louis. I'm fine tornadoes, hate Hills. They love flat. So I'm good. And it's, you know, I'm also not prone to flooding because I'm in a hilly area.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But just last night, my girlfriend was at her house texting me and she's like, are you seeing this? It's wild outside. And I like look out my house and it's sunny, perfect, normal day. And I'm like, no, it must be a few minutes away. And then within like four minutes, it starts to look like 8 p.m.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The sky gets like a weird green tint to it. And my instinct always is like, oh, it's gonna be a cozy night. Like, I'm just gonna snuggle up in my blanket and have snacks and maybe some tea or cocoa and then I'm gonna game. And so I love it. If you're in a brick building, are you safe?
Starting point is 00:09:05 I'm picturing a tall brick apartment. No, no. No, it'll pull the wall right off the side and leave the inside exposed like an ant farm. It can be more dangerous. Earthquakes and tornadoes to be in a brick building because if it collapses, it's a lot more calamitous. So like there's a bunch of people, I guess, like right here, not I guess, I know, St. Louis is on like an enormous fault line that hasn't had a bad earthquake in a century and a half or so. But I guess a lot of people forgot about it
Starting point is 00:09:35 and built brick houses here. Especially in the city of St. Louis and the very closely surrounding suburbs, there's a ton of brick houses. And there's a reason there are no brick houses in California, because if you are in an earthquake, a brick house is the absolute worst place you can be like you're the most likely to get harmed there. And so eventually when this shit does pop off in Missouri, you know, St. Louis specifically gets another earthquake, there's going to be hundreds if not thousands
Starting point is 00:10:03 of people that living in brick houses. Okay, okay. This does contradict what I learned from the three little pigs. Which was my previous source. They were up against a wolf. But he could huff and he could puff and he could blow. I see a lot of similarities.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Fact check true. Yes. He could huff and he could puff and he could blow it down. Brothers Gr a lot of similarities. Fact check true. Yes. Brothers Grimm don't lie. Is that who wrote that? Or is that just a challenge? I don't know. Brothers Grimm. I thought they were the German storytellers and German fairy tales are pretty fucked. Or it's like, you know, be well behaved or this weird goblin is gonna snip your thoughts off or something to that effect Something to do with snipping thumbs someone named Joseph Jacobs wrote it probably a white guy
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah, that Jack's Joseph Jacobs Hmm. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm waiting for the next tornado Actually, I'm not I'm joking but I don't want it to show up here Okay, I'm on you with the earthquake and the brittle materials, but on the wind, like I feel like there's something to this like cinder block. Maybe if it's not, bricks, like that, something has to be pretty wind resistant. I'm strong. It is right. Like, um, we would oftentimes where I'm from, people will have storm shelters and it'll just be
Starting point is 00:11:28 sort of a hole dug in the side of a hill to avoid having to just dig straight down into the flat earth and then capped off with a big concrete thing in a storm. My grandmother had one. She would go in that thing if the wind picked up. Like anything at all, she was in that fucking storm shelter, which, you know, she'd probably get sucked up anyway. Did she experience like a horrible storm as a kid? And then she was she was 92. So odds are she lived through all sorts of storms and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. Or maybe 94. We she didn't have a birth certificate, so we weren't sure she was that old. It was just vibing. You know, I'm probably. I'll tell you what, she vibed 142. All right. She looked like wrinkly like tissue paper by the end. She dyed her hair black. This is my dad's grandma. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Holy shit. Yeah. I know that I every single time my phone buzzes and it says seek shelter, like go into your basement, which is like a couple of times a year in the Midwest. You get something that like your phone buzzes like an amber alert. And it's like, warning, you might be sucked into oblivion. And every single time I'm like, nah, that's fine. There's fucking eight skylights in my living room. I'm chilling. If the tree falls, then I'm more worried about the water damage. But yeah, I really like the storms. The people in south of the city, because they're the ones who got hammered. Uh, they're not loving it so much, but they're easy to love as long as you're not like immediately affected.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Have you seen that picture from Joplin, Missouri in 2011, where a piece of wood got, got punched through a concrete curb? I didn't see that. A curb. But I remember J that. A curb, yeah. But I remember Joplin. Next to the street? Yeah, it like threw a wood splinter,
Starting point is 00:13:31 like through a curb, a concrete curb. It was moving, and I think Joplin got hit with like, what's the highest, like F5, I think they, because that whole town was leveled, unfortunately, very sad. But yeah, yeah, that's the picture that was going viral after that, where thank you, Zach. Yeah, people were like, Oh, it couldn't have been going that fast. And it's like, really? That's how fast it was going. tornadoes are so cool, though, if you're not directly impacted,
Starting point is 00:14:00 they're just neat. There's there was a picture the other day of like it forming over the St. Louis skyline. This gigantic tornado and and again tragic, horrible, feel bad for everybody who had their houses and lives torn up but if you are it's objectively such a cool kind of storm to see if you're safe. Like tornadoes are just like their own beast It's neat. It would be fun. I would like to ride along with a storm chaser but sometimes I see those videos and they're just right there like like yards from it like, you know a few hundred yards from like just a gigantic act of God and I've never Have I ever seen one? I don't think I've ever seen a tornado, like seen it like doing its thing.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I've obviously seen the storm happen, but I didn't see the tunnel or the funnel cloud. Never seen an actual tornado. Yeah, yeah, they're scary, but they are scary because it's like, they have all those little precautions. Like we had to do it constantly in grade school where it was like tornado drill, go in your cubby.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And like even at the age of, you know, eight in second or third grade or whatever that age is, where you have to like sit under your cubby. I remember thinking like, there's no fucking way that this cubby is providing safety. Like I'm gonna get sucked up. Is that how it was when y'all did Duck and Cover, Woody? We never did Duck and Cover.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Duck and cover. They do that little bit of a song with the animated turtle. Yeah, they would show a turtle hiding under like a cardboard box, a mushroom cloud, fucking would go off in the background and melt Chicago and then the turtle would crawl out from under his box.
Starting point is 00:15:51 That was the thing like, I didn't realize so I was older is that like, all the tornado drills can protect you if the tornado doesn't hit you like right on. But if the tornado hits you, like right on, But if the tornado hits you like right on, no amount of building, no amount of cover, like you're getting sucked up. Like you're gonna die. There's no way around that.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And sometimes you see it like- Well, they're definitely tornado-proof buildings, right? Like they're little domes. Oh, probably. Yeah, yeah, I would guess a dome's probably the absolute best shape to make it. So hopefully like goals over. I've never been in one. Yeah. I would guess a dome is probably the absolute best shape to make it, so hopefully it rolls over. I've never been in one.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, I've actually never seen one, so maybe we're slacking here in the Midwest. We should be. You'd think you'd be with them, I don't know. I have seen more tornadoes than I have tornado-proof buildings in my life, so that's not ideal. Have you seen many tornadoes like close up ish to where you could feel their
Starting point is 00:16:47 wind? Oh, no, I could like, I could feel the storm and like the, the wind does get to a point that like, if you were to go outside, it would damn near knock you over a little more. Uh, but I've never been in the proximity of the funnel. I've like, uh, I've seen the, like the beginnings of it, but something they don't tell you is like a lot of the funnel. I've seen the beginnings of it, but something they don't tell you is like, a lot of the time that, I would guess more times than not, that funnel starts and then it doesn't complete.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And so it's like, oh no. And then it goes back up because of some, I don't know how they work, some pressure shit. One thing I have experienced is flying in my paramotor, then the rain just opens up. And this is like big, thick raindrops, right? Now a little drizzle, but something that goes from zero to a hundred quickly.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And that's often associated with high winds, but people don't know why. The reason is, and forgive me on the numbers here, I don't even know, a billion gallons falls, a hundred million, a trillion gallons, I don't know, but a lot of gallons falls at one time and it displaces that air. So you can imagine what happens to the air
Starting point is 00:17:50 that used to be there, it just goes shh and then sideways once it gets to the ground. All this air is being carried by the raindrops down and then sideways where I wanna land, right? So now what was really a nice day 45 minutes ago has like 20 mile an hour winds on the ground. And I have to land in that, which is basically like, I'm going 20 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I go straight down like an elevator and then try to disable the wing. So it doesn't pull me backwards. I've had that before. I've never seen a hurricane. Oh. And that would be very, very cool. To see a hurricane.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I mean, if a hurricane makes it to me, you guys are dead. Yeah. It's all, you know, the end is nigh. If a hurricane reaches me. But like after tomorrow, that's a difference in hurricanes and tornadoes is like you can like predict a hurricane because it's this giant monsoon. It's a giant storm. It seems like the problem with tornadoes is like,
Starting point is 00:18:48 oh fuck, like it's here right now, where's it gonna go? Well, it's gonna kind of dip see doodle around the town and one person might get unlucky and like. Yeah, it's like a Roomba just destroying everything. Yeah, you'll see. There we go. One house totally decimated and then the other house just has the roof torn off.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And it's like that was relatively a tiny distance for that tornado to move. Even hurricanes here, obviously, like in Jersey where Woody's from, I bet he saw actual hurricanes. But here we just get like severe thunderstorms that are essentially like the arms of the of the hurricane sort of breaking off and becoming the storm front that sweeps across Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But I'm obviously nowhere near the ocean. Does Atlanta flood? No. When you get those? No, there's plenty of drainage. We only suffer with two inches of snow that'll lock the whole fucking thing down. You know? That's so funny how the South gets just fucked by a lot of dusting. We're not prepared for it. Imagine the-
Starting point is 00:19:52 It makes sense. It gets required to be prepared for that. So Kyle's right, you're all right. Like, but also the snow we get here is harder to drive in than the snow that we got in like New Jersey. Like what we get here is just freezing rain. And like, people say they don't know how to drive here in the snow that we got in like New Jersey. Like what we get here is just freezing rain. And like people say they don't know how to drive here in the snow, mildly true.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But even Taylor who probably drives in winter weather every year doesn't have an answer for the really slick ice that can be at an intersection. And like in St. Louis, they would just cure that fucking problem with whatever it took, snow, sand, something. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say salt or sand or something. But here they don't have any of those materials
Starting point is 00:20:31 and people just go sliding into the intersection and fuck you. Like there's no driving talent that lets you stop on ice really. I mean, you could anticipate it somewhat. You can seek out the snow, like if you know what you're doing, but sometimes it's not there. That that's I'm convinced exactly what you said at the end.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Seeking out the snow is part of a reason people in warmer climates struggle is because they don't like you and I would know. Like if there's what to us would be clear as ice, but there's also a dusting of snow, you angle towards the snow, you get some kind of traction. But if you're not used to that, you're just thinking like snow is ice. And therefore I want to go to the part that looks like there's no snow there. And that will be safer. And it's like, no, that's literally the worst possible thing you could you can do, because you're just putting yourself in a dangerous situation.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And when you're tailspinning or on ice, there's no amount of driving skill that can, that can help you. You're already out of control. That I know of. Yeah. You need a little drive and you know what you're doing. And most people down here, especially in Atlanta, Atlanta, don't do that. I bet a bunch of them don't know how to put their fucking trucks in four wheel drive anyway. I saw that the other day on Reddit, those people stuck in the sand on the beach and some guys like do you know how? To put it in four wheel drive and then I know and he comes over and he's like pull that down
Starting point is 00:21:54 Alright, no, you're neutral now pull it hard All right now put it back into will drive for you leave No better that I mean it's probably a button or a lever. It'll have a four next. It was a it was a Wrangler. So, you know, it's old school, just manual, you know, pull that to four by four, two by four, pull down gear shifting. I have a lot of off-roading experience and I feel like I'm the guy that knows how.
Starting point is 00:22:24 But I also have four wheel a four wheel high and low. I get. I don't know exactly what four wheel automatic does exactly like how is it no differential lock? Is it? Does it does it only make the front wheels grab when they're needed? Yeah, I don't know what four wheel. I think that's going to be a brand specific thing.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That almost sounds like the way, like with smart TVs, they all have a different name for various cinema settings. And it's like, I wish there were an industry standard here. I don't know what four wheel auto means. Does it mean, I mean the transmission, the transmission is still shifting. I don't know what four wheel auto means.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Oh, maybe it sounds to me like I would think four by four auto means that the front wheels only kick in when they're needed. Could be maybe it's only when they start slipping. Is it is it my rain setting? I don't use it. If I need four wheel drive, it's usually like, I this is an uphill slippery thing. You know, we're gonna do four wheel drive.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I was in a Explorer last time I was in bad weather and I was so deli, I had been in one of the desert and I remembered that it had like desert mode. I was like, fuck yeah. It feels so nice to be in the desert and go desert. Like anything goes wrong, it's on you buddy. Cause I click the button. And the same thing when we were in Colorado driving through the mountains, it's on you, buddy, because I click the button. And the same thing when we were in Colorado driving through the mountains, it was like, dude, I trust this explore with my life.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It's got descend snowy mountain mode. Like we're good. We're good. And that usually takes care of you. But just being in a regular car and that shit, that's what happened in Atlanta. Of course, Atlanta traffic's already just anyone's been here. They know it's it's the second worst traffic's already just anyone's been here. They know it's the second worst traffic in the country, only to Los Angeles. It's ridiculous. The amount of people that move in and out of the city every day, millions of people commuting every
Starting point is 00:24:13 single day. It's the traffic gets bad at 2 p.m. Like fuck five. Like you might think five is bad. It gets bad at two and I can remember leaving work at like Six seven p.m. And not getting home until midnight Like five hours to get back home. It's normally a two and a half hour drive. It would take five It would it would double your travel time What a fucking nightmare Is it just a? Nobody wants to live in the city proper and so they're
Starting point is 00:24:45 all there's no or is it like not enough lanes? There's no, nobody really lives in the center of Atlanta. It's mostly businesses and like big businesses and skyscrapers and shit. Banks and insurance companies and such. Everybody works in the middle of the city and then they live in the suburbs and then even further out. And I don't know what it is about Atlanta roads that are, we have good roads, we generally do in Atlanta, but they're clogged every day, like slow down, stopping.
Starting point is 00:25:15 The issue, maybe Kyle knows more about it. I looked at this, apparently Atlanta doesn't have the high density housing that you'd expect to have in a city of Atlanta size. Instead, the people of Atlanta prefer to live in like houses with grass just outside the city. So houses with grass extend outside the city to like a two and a half hour commute.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Instead of having a lot of people take buses and trains to their apartments like New York would do, they just have traffic that goes forever in that suburban spread. There was a term for it. Sprawl. Sprawl just keeps going and going because that's what the market wanted. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. I mean, I'm in the suburbs. I don't know how far I am outside the city as the as the crow flies.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Just a few minutes. But as the car drives crow flies just a few minutes. But as the car drives hour and a half like if I wanted to go to a Braves game, it's a whole that's why whenever every now and I get a stupid wild hair up my ass and be like, you know what? What time is the Braves game? Oh, I should have left three hours ago. That thing's like nine miles away. And then you would go to a Braves game anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:24 No parking is awful here, too. It there's a lot of things that are awful about Atlanta. There's a lot of things are good, too. But but the traffic is not even close to one of them. You know, I how far did you get into the book? The book is got dropped today by Jake Tapper. The book's called I want to keep forgetting the exact original original sin. President Biden's Decline and its Cover-Up and his Disastrous Choice to Run Again.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm on chapter nine and it says I have six hours and 27 minutes left and I think it started at like eight and a half hours or so. So I've listened to it for for two. And he did a little shout out to Jake Tapper. He's got a good audio book voice. Great. And so I did it himself. Yeah. And so, you know, I like that. It refers to himself in the third person
Starting point is 00:27:17 when he's the subject of the book. Obviously he hosted the debate. So he says, and then Jake, Jake wrote when Biden had that huge gaffe, nine minutes in, uh, Jake Taffer wrote, holy smokes on his, they have an, they have, uh, iPads that go to the control room in the back where they're running all the graphics and cameras and such. And then Dana bash went, he just lost the election. It's been really like true. You're way further than I am.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So you can elucidate a lot more, but it's insane listening to this. Like how many people knew on the inside of the Democratic Party and in the media that he was a demented man who struggled to even maintain normal conversations with his staffers. I've got my computer, my monitor covered with post-it notes of notes that I took, like literally everywhere all over. It's some of the, they called his inner circle the Pollet Bureau.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Now, if you don't know that word again, I don't know. Pollet Bureau, P-O-L-I-T. B.U.R.A. A pilot bureau. That's also what you call the inner circle and controlling group in the Communist Party. Well, that's what they call themselves. The members were Mike Donald and Steve Ruschetti and Bruce Reed. That's your pilot bureau.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That's who was running the country for the last four years prior to Trump. They were the ones that they didn't all agree on the border. That's why you got the you had half of them wanting to do what Trump's doing right now and build facilities and hire more border patrol. And you had the other side is like, let them in. So they just didn't do anything, which was letting them in. Yeah. One of the quotes was great.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Biden's right frozen, slightly haunted expression, concerned that they're all present. It goes back to 2017 when he's talking to his ghostwriter. Can't remember anything, can't remember anything. Huge lapses in memory, recognizing people. And he's bragging. And having the normal people who are bright and effective. Definitely. He's bragging. It happens to normal people who are bright and effective. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:29:25 He's bragging. He's on tape bragging about how he has classified materials and this and that and how he keeps them. It's Iraq and Afghanistan top secret information by the way. Then October 8th, 2023, you get the Her special counsel. Oh, they referred to that as quote alarming. They go on and on about the special counsel and how this her guy is, he's not a partisan.
Starting point is 00:29:52 He's not a conservative, he's not a liberal. But after interviewing Biden, he came to the conclusion that Biden had committed crimes, the same crimes that Trump. He was a Republican, her, right? Not a, that's not how Jake Tapper characterized him. He talked a lot about his independent
Starting point is 00:30:12 nature, especially as far as this goes. And they say that his findings were that a jury would not convict Biden because he's a, you know, Mr. Magoo with an old kind, well-meaning, sympathetic memory that he wouldn't be convicted.
Starting point is 00:30:28 However, and they noted that he didn't remember when his son had died. Well, the Bidens, Jill and, and, and Joe went after him with a passion and they fired him eventually. Uh, but, but they said that he's like, how dare he asked that question about Bo? He didn't ask the question. The question was, where in your, at this address, might you have stored classified materials? And he meandered until he was talking about Bo,
Starting point is 00:30:58 not remembering when he had died the month or the year. And then he ended up talking about archery in Mongolia. He's like, yeah, I remember that. And I tell you what, I was in Mongolia just a few weeks after that. And I tell you what, I had a target a hundred yards away and I'm pretty good archer. And he's like, and her notes noted,
Starting point is 00:31:19 this was an hour in. We had gotten one question across and the answer involves Mongolians into a five-hour interview right when he got to the the big fundraiser in Hollywood that was put on by George Clooney and Katzenberg and all those guys obviously Clooney's the star he's putting this thing together he's hosting this they raised 30 million dollars or so maybe 24 there was one where they raised 31 where they raised 24 either way same group. Maybe it was 24. There was one where they raised 30 and one where they raised 24.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Either way, same group of people raising the money. Just one of them's a few months apart. He didn't recognize George Clooney. This is, sir, George is here. Ah, George, nice to meet you. And it's like, he's hosting you tonight. He's George Clooney, the movie's fucking star. And they're like, right, George Clooney.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And George Clooney is like, I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck have they done? It's on and every every chapter of this is full of these anecdotes. And if the theme of the book, the repeating theme is a new person gets to talk to Biden or see Biden and they remark, what the fuck? What are we doing? Who's running the country? Is this elder abuse? Who's hands on the wheel? Because it's not that guy's. What's wrong with that guy? What's going on? It's shocking. And it's exactly what we said. We were joking about it. Oh, he didn't remember, he couldn't come up with the words fax machine. He didn't know what that was anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:50 He didn't know what a poster board was anymore. Let's see. Back in 2017, he's struggling to read his own notes and relay them. He essentially can't read. And he can't remember when Bo died. He struggled to remember what years that both served. On 2017, that was 2017 with his ghostwriter.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That's all recorded. The FBI had, of course it was deleted. The FBI had to go recover it. The White House pressured her to remove any parts in his report that mentioned the failing memory. And then of course they painted him as a partisan and, uh, ran him out of his job while on the other side, the conservatives are, are, are going after him. Why won't you prosecute? Why won't you prosecute?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Get it from both ends. They said he couldn't get a job after, uh, after that. It took him months to find a job. Yeah, I doubt it. Oh, my favorite part. D-Day celebration. This is I don't have the date written down. I did on the rest. You should keep these these little tags for all sorts of things. This is funny.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Oh, I did. I bought a whole pack of these. I sometimes I have tons of notes before the show, but I forget them in the moment. I can't bring up names and dates sometimes. This is much like our former president. It was interesting on the debate prep, Steven Spielberg was working with him on debate prep and for his commercials to light him better, get him microphones that would actually pick his voice up
Starting point is 00:34:16 and get him to deliver in a way that was, quote, discernible. Then we get to the D Day celebration. This is at Normandy Beach. It was the anniversary of D-Day. Macron said he used the French word for embarrassed for Biden. And they noted that Biden appeared much more physically feeble and frail than many of the over 100-year-old veterans who had served there on D-Day all those years before. At one point he was going to rise from his chair as someone was announced, but clearly thought better of it and just froze in the middle of standing and sitting.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And like he realized he couldn't stand and he wasn't sure if he should sit. So he just sort of froze for a while and everybody was staring at him. It's on and on with these embarrassing moments. 2023 disoriented out of it, mouth agape. March 2024, this is immediately after the State of the Union. And these are all his allies. None of this is coming from Republicans. Not one of these like quotes or these stats is a Republican.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Jake Tapper is a Democrat. The guy said he gave a great State of the Union. I agree. It was great. Definitely on something. He was shouting. He was loud. He was forceful. He was a little funny. But the guy said right after the stage, I went to pat Mr. Biden on the back.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I could feel his spine and ribs through his suit. He felt like Mr. Burns frail and decrepit. And not as funny. Not as funny. Not recognizing Clooney was like my favorite one. Let's see. Frozen slightly haunted. That one's my favorite. I know exactly what he looks like with that sort of mouth a little too open. like the big eyes face expression like oddly still like you can you can probably all picture it yeah mommy look like a mummy it looked like he'd been dehydrated damon lindelof is a hollywood fundraiser slash donor and he was the one who coined the phrase dem bargo saying that no more money for democrats until Joe drops out.
Starting point is 00:36:25 That's where I am in the book now. I've gotten to the last two hours and it's post debate, post them not doing anything after the debate. And he's getting turned on by the whole Democratic Party, essentially, like slowly people are getting enough, like balls to say it. Cause for forever, everybody's afraid. Everybody's afraid to say anything. They don't know what to say it. Because forever everybody's afraid. Everybody's afraid to say anything.
Starting point is 00:36:47 They don't know what to say. Everybody's scared of Jill, scared of Hunter. Apparently Hunter was in the White House doing stuff, making decisions, advising his father on what he should do and pushing and pressuring him to stay in the race for his own sake because he needs that pardon. They go deep into the laptop. They talk about Hunter's trial.
Starting point is 00:37:12 They talk about the Biden's not recognizing or I don't know if recognizing is the right word I suppose is the Hunter's illegitimate child. I don't know if you know about the little girl that he fathered. Yeah, a little bit. I know of it. Jill wrote a children's book and in the back, she thanks her six grandchildren. She mentions her six grandchildren by name,
Starting point is 00:37:31 leaves this kid's name off. This is after the DNA test and everything. She hangs six stockings, not seven at Christmas. What was the other thing she did? She came off poorly. Something else in regards to Hunter and his, oh, after Bo died, Hunter has an affair, Hunter's married. Hunter has an affair with Bo's dead widow. He starts fucking his dead brother's widow and introduces her to crack cocaine to which she quickly becomes addicted. His sister also drug problem, also a drug problem,
Starting point is 00:38:08 huge drug problem, it's all in text. And of course, I didn't know any of this, like in the trial, she's caught lying. She's like, oh no, he was better at this point. And they're like, oh, okay, well, here's some text messages from between you and him. I think this is his daughter actually, one of his adult children,
Starting point is 00:38:25 Hunter's adult daughter. She was probably a teen at the time, but but she's like, Hey, I want to see you. I love you. What's going on? And he's like, No reply. Like, Okay, well, here's some texts that he sent that day. It's Tim texting his crack cocaine dealer. It's Frankie. He's getting Frankie on the line, Frankie some crack cocaine over at the hotel. You know, it's, it's one thing after another. It's shocking. Like Biden crime family might not be an overstatement. It was death. There's definitely a massive conspiracy to pull the wool over the American people's eyes and keep a guy in power who wasn't in power. So that the Politburo continue running the country.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And then like the outrage early on of them, a lot of like the black Democrats were like, do not put Kamala into this position. Do not put her in there. This makes blacks look bad. You can't just throw her in with a hundred days to run and then have us take this L, you know, put that on us. There's all this infighting where I am in the book right now
Starting point is 00:39:26 about who's gonna run and Obama and Nancy Pelosi are 100% on board with doing this like rushed primary. There's even this idea of having Bill Clinton and Barack Obama host this like, not exactly a primary but sort of a primary, at least a debate with you know the top 10 people get your buddha judges in there and your chapiros and obviously kamala would be there and all those people to like let's see who the strongest candidate is let's not just guess
Starting point is 00:40:01 it's been a really good book and like you said jake tapper Mm-hmm. It's been a really good book. And like you said, Jake Tapper, love listening to him, got a great speaking voice and it leads so much, it lends so much believability to like everything he's saying that it is Jake Tapper saying these things. Like he's a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:40:19 He's a Democrat and he was there. He's like sort of a central figure, at least a little. He was hosting that debate. Right. It all fell apart for Biden. Yeah. Oh, that was another party. At the debate, debate was in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:40:32 If we kick off at 9 p.m. Trump was supposed to be there at 3 p.m. Biden was supposed to be there at 5 p.m. Biden didn't show up until 8.38. 22 minutes before go time. He walked the stage less than 10 minutes before full go time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Well, I mean, when you take a potion of charisma, it doesn't last forever. You got like a 90 second timer on your potion of charisma. He switched his potions. He had to pop up. He got his potions muddled up. I wonder if the people around Biden saw him having a bad day and were scrambling to do something about it.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I don't know what that thing is, Fetamine salts. That would be in the book. See, that's why this book is so good. Like he has so many sources, Woody. Everybody talked. Some of them are unnamed, but the unnamed ones are cabinet members.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Did they explain why he was late? No. Three and a explain why he was late. No, three and a half hours late. Well, they talk about how his sleep schedule, they talk about his debate prep. His debate prep involved Steven Spielberg, which it's like that that that struck me so weird for some reason, I don't know why he was part of it. It. Yeah. What the fuck? Well, I mean, I recommend that book.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It doesn't. What the fuck with me, Steven Spielberg? I'm like, this is a guy who coaches people to deliver lines. I get it. Fair enough. If Trump had Spielberg helping him, I'd be like, yeah, I mean, that sounds Trumpy. He knows this is a show. What if he came out and started doing the Robert Shaw speech from Jaws? Black eyes.
Starting point is 00:42:04 This felt like a curse to me. Shaw speech from Jaws. Felt this smell across from me. He's got he's got black eyes like a doll's eyes. You know, what I think about it is you roll over quite there all over. Why don't you get you? Yeah, it's like I'm only like two hours in or whatever. But it's like you said, it's literally what we've been joking about for years. Like he's been a senile old man. I was surprised to hear the 2017 stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So that means three years prior to him running. They knew he was mentally deficient. He knew he was. The Democratic Party chose to run him and then work with the media who did carry water for him by posting only very heavily edited interviews, calling everyone who pointed out the unscripted interviews where he looked ridiculous as right wing conspiracy theorists. Like, oh, these are these are deep fakes. This is a right cheap fake. This is a right wing conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:43:05 You know, oh, we need this person to be banned from social media. They say Joe Biden is senile. It's like it's it's exactly what the, quote, conspiracy theorists said. They would take things. Biden said, play it back, slow down and say, look, he sounds drunk. And it's like, well, now you ruin the things that were true. Now we don't trust you. But I don't think I was ever tricked by a slowed down clip of Biden, nor do I think that's representative of what most people were, were hammering on. Like it was him up there,
Starting point is 00:43:38 Mr. Burns hands in, like, can you imagine if Trump was on stage, and not once, not twice, not six times, but over the course of almost eight years, where every time he finished talking and it was a mumbling, meandering tirade, his wife, Melania, had to go up there and lead him off stage. After he stood there and went like, ah, ah, ah, ah. They talk about that moment too. Yeah. Tapper is that happens
Starting point is 00:44:06 multiple books. Tapper is ruthless and to the point where he quotes Biden perfectly. Like he goes through the rambling us and Oz, like exactly as they were spoken by Biden. And it's like hearing him do it. He even does a little like he does like a Biden voice like when he does he doesn't go full into it like an SNL guy. But he gives you a little Trump when it's Trump. He gives a little Obama when it's Obama. You know, like he does a thing. He rounds his voice off a little bit. Yeah. It's a it's a fantastic book. Love it. Jake Tapper is about to make- I guess he already got paid, but he just made a whole shit fucking ton of money.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I bought it. It's so good. It's so good. And it feels vindicating to me because it's like, this is what we said. This is exactly what I said. We were all saying it. And now Jake Tafford's going, and of course the Biden administration would write these off and explain them away by saying it was just Republican cheap fakes.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But that wasn't true. He did literally say that. I feel so good hearing him say it and being like, yeah, I'm not stupid or crazy. They keep going back to that don't believe my you lying eyes shit, you know So many Republicans are at the point where I am in the book contacting they're having this big meeting with Kamala and everybody involved and she's like She's cursing. There's lots of cursing you get to see like like how foul-mouthed all these people are behind the scenes Because it's a like one guy described. He's like it's fuck City scenes because it's like one guy described he's like it's fuck city like after like post debate you describe it as fuck city and then here in Kamala
Starting point is 00:45:53 she's pretty foul-mouthed too going on and on and lying quite a bit yeah like Great book. Love it. Like we had a pretend president for four straight years. Who signed the pardons? Who signed a lot of those executive orders? Who pushed those things through? Not Joe Biden. We had an unelected bureaucracy pushing through their own agenda under the guise of Joe Biden. And so you want to talk about scandal, you want to talk about conspiracies. This is huge, huge. The Democratic Party knowingly, many of them knowingly, and the media until now, fucking held it up and allowed them to control our government under false pretenses. Like this isn't, it's
Starting point is 00:46:49 not like people just discovered this shit now. All these powerful people have known this for years and years and years. Well, you see, they didn't though, like, like, they really did have this inner circle. And they talk about the circle slowly getting smaller and smaller and smaller where they kicked the resident, the people who like clean up and serve the president and the residents, they got kicked out. We don't need y'all anymore. The Biden's don't like getting waited on.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Like members of the staff hadn't seen him for years. Like members of his staff hadn't seen him for years because they had created this little inner circle of people. And it was the Pollitt Bureau, which I can't believe is a thing that they would want to be called. Yikes. It's exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:47:33 It's a vast conspiracy to defraud the American people on a global scale. Like the most powerful military in the world, most powerful economy in the world was ran by three or four people in his inner circle and his wife. His wife is complicit in all of this because she's hiding it and they really break down like what piece of shit she is. She doesn't come off well in the book at all. She's a she's a piece of shit. They all
Starting point is 00:48:02 are husband and whole Biden family seems like scumbags. One of the things I learned about Hunter that made me think of him differently is he was in that car accident that killed his other brother and his mother when he was very small and his skull's fractured. I think, and they mentioned that brain damage like that would cause all sorts of lasting effects.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So you can bet. And of course the depression of losing your family like that would cause all sorts of lasting effects. So you can bet. And of course, the depression of losing your family like that. Sure. I understand Hunter Biden situation a lot better than I do any of the other characters in the book. Hunter Biden comes off as a piece of shit, a scumbag, but one who probably has an excuse. Yeah, a brain damaged one.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yes. Like I was brain damaged when my mother and my my brother were killed in front of me, you know, like like might fuck you up for life. A rough start. Yeah. It's insane. Like the more I listen to it, like all sometimes pause and like I'm playing video games or something as I'm as I'm doing it or doing something else.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And I'll have to stop and be like, no, that I couldn't have just hear heard that and then rewind 30 seconds and then hear it again. And Jake Tapper's like, and by that point, everyone in the Democratic Party knew that Joe Biden was addled. And yet no one stood up to say anything out of fear of their own careers being ruined. If they were to step forward, you know, the media would lambast them as accepting right wing, uh, propaganda as true. And it's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:49:30 Like, this is like, what is. Like, what's a bigger scandal than having a fake president for four years? I was shocked when I learned it was like, Trump would need to take that free airplane and crash it into the Eiffel Tower. He would have to crash it into the Freedom Tower. You know what? It's not such a nice building. I want it to. Not a great building. I don't like it. We want to. Yeah, it's fucking insane. And it is so exactly as you said, it's so vindicating to be like, to have watched something that's so obviously was happening for so many years and have the media, which frankly, Jake Tapper included,
Starting point is 00:50:13 I've seen clips of Jake Tapper running cover for Biden within the last five years. Like, he admits to just look at reality at its on its face and be told by our media, don't trust your lying eyes, don't trust your lying ears, we'll do the research. What did Jake say about his own involvement, Kyle? He was being interviewed as it pertains to that. And as some would say that you were part of the thing, he's like, I definitely was, and that was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And he sort of like breaks it down about like how he certainly didn't know the situation. But he did, you know, help run cover for this whole thing. You know, you see an old guy fall down, you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. You don't want to immediately call him Mr. Magoo. He has this, he keeps, he says something like, you don't call a fat person fat. Yeah. You know, I like that family saying you don't call a fat person fat. Yeah. Dog faced pony soldier. He's ruthless. He shows no mercy when it comes to little little flubs like that. And Biden, he's like, Biden said to the crowd, my brother, he like movies. that and Biden, he's like, Biden said to the crowd, I don't know, my brother, he liked movies. And I shouldn't say this, but the movies and John Wayne was in a movie and in the Apache and he was on the Hill and the Apache and any said, don't tell me that you've
Starting point is 00:51:36 dog face pony soldier. Jake Taffer then like interjects. There was no film where that those words were ever spoken. And as to who was the dog face it's a funny saying It is insane it's insane like how Manufactured our political process is by these media. It's the amount of evidence The they would have these these big zoom calls where there'd be like eight screens in front of Biden. Each one has an American in there asking a question that's near and dear to them. And like, we did like three hours and we couldn't use that yet.
Starting point is 00:52:14 We couldn't use any of it. It was all just rambling, incoherent. He couldn't focus. He was confused by the Zoom. Like he didn't know which screen to look at. Then they talk about, they set up this fake town hall for commercial purposes where they like just brought in all the questions are on the teleprompter already
Starting point is 00:52:32 and then he calls on the person in the crowd and he's still fucking it up so bad they couldn't use the footage. They're like, oh, the lighting's terrible. That's what it was. He's fucking Soviet Union shit. Just a totally fake contrived attempt at tricking the American people.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Stalin would have many people saw photographs after he had them murdered. So not quite that bad. But did you I heard something that made me like laugh, like a little guffaw out loud, where Jake Tapper was talking like, and Biden went to this campaign speech and he gave a long tirade, which didn't make a lot of sense. And at the end he said,
Starting point is 00:53:11 and so I need you to get out there and do it. Unfortunately, Joe Biden had not given any instructions on what should be done or what people should be doing in the speech. Yeah, he's like senior staffer looked to his left and asked, what the hell are we supposed to be doing? He didn't say anything. He didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:53:32 He would go into like whip votes up and that they would have like all the Dems there and he's there to like get them behind his infrastructure bill or something like that. And like, he's being watched over his shoulder by Pelosi, like, yeah, come on, get those votes up. And he's like, over his shoulder by Pelosi like, yeah, come on, get those votes up. And he's like, he never mentions the infrastructure bill. He speaks for eight minutes and leaves and then they're all just like, fuck. Yeah. Our media apparatus is all the getting fucking liars and they're not their job is not to inform us. If you still think Fox and CNN, if you think their job, like if you think Don Lemon or Anderson Cooper
Starting point is 00:54:09 or who's a Fox guy, Bret Baer, like if you think their job is genuinely to like beat the pavement, and find out the scoop, and then he does have good hair, and then like show up to tell the American people, like you're just, you're out of touch. Like their job is to launder narratives
Starting point is 00:54:24 that are beneficial to their handlers, to the American public. That's what their job is. There is no pretense of truth to these media organizations and it is so awesome to see them all fucking failing because even though it's CNN and the liberal ones going down first, believe you me, Fox's downfall will coincide exactly with the boomers demise.
Starting point is 00:54:47 No one believes their horse shit. No one believes Fox. No one believes CNN. If you're watching those things, stop. You know less about the way of the world than if you had just used your own intuition, frankly, because they are lying to you. And Newsmax. I don't know what Newsmax did. I know that's some like right wing horse shit, right? Which way over there. Yeah, I find them to be untrue. They are untrue.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Well then that applies the same way. I don't watch them. Their job is to launder a narrative. Sort of is. Yeah, it's wild, it's scary that that all went down. I'm glad, I guess I'm glad that went the way it did. Kamala seems just... Seeing her, knowing all those blatant lies, and she's part of the cover-up too, really turned me even more against the idea of her. Trump is Trump. Look, I would much rather have
Starting point is 00:55:43 a moderate something, like someone who's on the left end of the Republicans or the right wing of the Democrats who's 48 years old. Like who can operate their Gmail account like a gangster. All right. You know, they can fucking text with one hand. They have swipe installed. All right. You know, they're not ticky tacking around. They don't own a blueberry. You know, they're not. They're not tick ticky tacking around. They don't own a blue, a blackberry like fuck all that shit.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm tired of these octogenarians. You know what I mean? I want somebody who thinks a little bit more like us with a full vocabulary as well, which Trump doesn't make. Is it too much to hope for? Even if you're 60, like less rough as America's best interest in mind. Like, that's what I would like. That is too much to ask, because I don't think you make it that high with America's best interest in mind. Like that's what I would like. That is too much to ask
Starting point is 00:56:26 because I don't think you make it that high with America's best interest in mind. You get co-opted by, like at some point you get to a level of notoriety where it's like, hey, you're really popular. It's time where you learn how things actually work. Unless you have all of APAC behind you, which is a foreign lobby,
Starting point is 00:56:43 you're not really gonna get much traction. Unless you have all of the pharmaceutical lobby behind you which is a foreign lobby, you're not really gonna get much traction. Unless you have all of the pharmaceutical lobby behind you, you're not gonna get a ton of traction. And the media is gonna hate you unless you have pharma behind you, because guess who has almost every ad on Fox and CNN and ABC and NBC and CBS? It's all pharmaceutical companies.
Starting point is 00:57:03 That's who they're beholden to those networks. It's not they're not running ads for Sprite. They're running ads for pharma companies. And so it's sad, but that's the way our system is. We're like, once you get to a level of notoriety, I feel like they do not even before the presidency. It's not like they're telling you the alien shit, but they take you in a back room. They tell you what's up, who you have to service. I don't think it's like that. I think it's more like, uh, you kind of see which way the, the tide is going.
Starting point is 00:57:31 You see certain people get moved up in the world and certain people don't. There's a lot of talk of all these fake positions within the campaign and the administration is like this person's title was X, Y, and Z. In reality. And by the way, they had a very ethnic name. It sounded like a black lady's name. In reality, she had almost zero responsibilities. The true runner of the campaign was, and it's a dude's name.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It ends with Marowitz or something like that. There's a guy named Goldberg. Katzenberg is the guy in Hollywood. There's a guy named Goldberg. Katzenberg is the guy in Hollywood. He's the huge Hollywood fundraiser guy. I think he started with Bill. He talks about it in the book. He talks about how he, I don't know if discovered is the right word, but he flew down to Arkansas
Starting point is 00:58:18 and met with Bill Clinton. And then from since then, he's been a huge democratic fundraiser in Hollywood. He's the guy who gets Julia Roberts and George Clooney together so that all those people play half a million dollars for the for the table. That's what it was. It's half a million dollars. Each was the highest rung of that. And, you know, you get to take pictures with Clooney and Julia Roberts and Obama. And they gave away half a million dollars
Starting point is 00:58:45 to go to a political dinner. Are you really doing it because the selfie is that dope or is there something that you're getting in return? You know, like I'll do Hillary. Hillary talked for, I think it was 650,000. It might be 625 to Goldman Sachs. And then they did it again, right? And that's the part that gets me double.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Like if they paid her that little over half million and were like, fuck this, what a waste. No, no, no. They were like, I'll take two. Like, what'd you get? What'd you get? How'd that work? That's just paid play.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So I'm like, half million dollars for a dinner. Like I can imagine people who are wealthy enough that would pay 10 grand for a dinner, right? People who get $10,000 means a lot to most people, but to some, you know, whatever, right? It doesn't have any impact on their finances. And those people could go to a dinner and say, I know Trump, but half a million. Does anyone throw that away? Even Elon Musk who could easily give away half a million probably says this is
Starting point is 00:59:44 still a thing of value. I don't just give that away. Even Elon Musk, who could easily give away half a million probably says this is still a thing of value. I don't just give that away all the time. Yeah. I mean, you can see this with the Clinton Foundation, where you can look at you can look at Yeah, hundred Biden's patent paintings. Those were just, you know, 100 grand each. No one knows who was buying them. If you look at the Clinton Foundation, look at their donations when they have political power versus when they don't.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And it went under. Are they even a thing anymore? I remember Trump attacking her. He's like the biggest criminal organization is the Clinton Foundation. And she's like, I am very proud of the Clinton Foundation and the works that we do here and there and we do this and that and the other. She loses. It's like the doors are shuttered on that bit. Yeah, I'm proud of the 10 million dollars I took from Qatar.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I mean, I don't want to be part of trying not to be part of this, as I sit here and hit it back. But the one now is the Trump library, right? Getting a 400 million dollar plane from Qatar, Qatar, I guess both work. Trump's cryptocurrency, like he's taking the Biden crime family and making them look like two-bit hoods. Oh, yeah. I mean, and I don't think so. I think the Biden family, like the Biden's, undeniably at this point, ran a fake presidency for four years and made decisions that counted the in the in the hundreds of billions of dollars, much less the millions.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You can say that like, yeah, the Trump plane thing, if he actually keeps that fucking plane, that's ridiculous. That's that's the point is worse. The plane thing is not even high up there. The crypto coin thing, the way he's getting paid by other countries, by people who need influence, it's wild. The whole thing about the crypto
Starting point is 01:01:33 is it's untraceable more or less. 100% that's corrupt. Yeah, like I can. Yeah, honestly, if you ask me to choose between an absentee president and one who was openly for sale, it's not an easy choice, man. It's not like, I think it is for you.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I'm reading it, but like Trump is openly for sale. Well, one of them has happened. And like we had, we did again, we had four years of a pretend president where we had a politburo, which is again, the term they used and the term for like, the inner circle of the communist government of Soviet Russia. They were making decisions and not only were they making decisions, there was no pushback in real time from our supposed free media, no pushback at all. In fact, they were complicit.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Even the guy who wrote this book was complicit in pushing this false narrative that this was a real presidency. And so I think it's pretty clear that's beyond corruption. And I'm happy to say that Trump, Trump, like this just further elucidates the fact of a lot of us who voted for Trump said, which is Trump himself is not the important part of this. Trump is a response from a lot of people
Starting point is 01:02:52 of fuck this system. Fuck it. Trump himself is not important. It's he is the fur, a billionaire from New York is the furthest thing to an outsider that we get to vote in in our entirely constructed Kabuki theater apparatus. Sanders might have been nice. I remember you and I had a time in 2018 where we both were all on the Sanders wagon. It was the best option. Sanders lost me the second time he got butt fucked by the DNC. And then he just kind of folded. He didn't really push back. So, so they asked him about, he, um, uh, he says, I, um, I supported you.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I wanted you, I loved your campaign, but then they fucked you over. They, they rigged the system. They stole it from you. And then you, you over. They rigged the system. They stole it from you. And then you, you endorsed her and that drives my heart. And he, and he says, well, you know, I represent the people, you know, and if, if I'm looking at, at, at this situation, are people going to go hungry? Are people going to be in the streets? Are children not going to have the services they need?
Starting point is 01:04:03 I had to make a decision. And Hillary Clinton was the best of the two evils. It was, it's like loved hearing Sanders say that by the way, he's still with it at 82 or whatever. He's still looking. Yeah. Sanders run. Let's pick Sanders up there. He's one of the guys. Like there are a few politicians, probably both sides I could think of Republican too, who seem to be mostly operating on their version of what makes America better.
Starting point is 01:04:29 But then too many politicians are operating on what would be good for themselves. Or they're if I had to pick a favorite Democrat, it's easily Bernie independent. Yeah, right. Like, come on, there's an eye on his bright, right. And the caucuses with the Democrats. Let's be real. Like he's a Democrat. And so, but even so, like if I had to pick one, like in 2018, I remember you and I, Kyle, were both like fans of Bernie. We liked him for a lot of reason. And I liked him for the exact same reason that I liked Trump is that he seemed like an outsider that the media hated. Both establishments hated.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And I like that. If it's row, if I can throw a turd in the punch bowl that is Washington, I'm going to do it. When Sanders went on Rogan and he did a couple hours or whatever he did, it was like, Oh my God, here's a guy who sounds normal. He's not full of fucking like, uh, little allegories and preloaded bits, he doesn't give you this pre-programmed, policy-tested, poll-datted answer. He just tells you what he fucking thinks because it just so happens that what he thinks is good stuff and he means it. And he means what he says.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And I was all on board with him, especially because the other option was Trump, who we really viewed as a joke. And we really enjoyed seeing him make fun of the Republicans during this 2016, you know, initial bid. That was great seeing him just destroy every single one of them like, like has a lot of making to call them ugly, call their wives ugly.
Starting point is 01:05:57 You know what I mean? Like that was some funny ass shit. Marco Rubio, everyone knows he's a faggot. Wives and dogs. Dude, there's some superpower that he can say shit like that. Like if you make fun of Trump's small hands and oh my God, you're playing into his game. If he were to do the inverse, it's genius. It's branding. It's, you know, working.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It's her little Marco nailed it. Trump's small hands. Ah, now you're playing his game. You can't win. Well, it's delivery, too. Like a lot of these politicians like Cruz and Rubio, just going back to the 2016 thing, when they tried to co-opt the brutality that is a New York real estate mogul reality television guy, like they couldn't mimic
Starting point is 01:06:38 it. And so you could even see in the later debates were like Cruz and Rubio were two of the last men standing, and they would try to be brutal with him. But they were trying to be brutal. Trump is effortlessly mean. If Cruz was the number two guy from the start, I wonder if he could have put on a better fight because Cruz is also pretty good. He's a strong debater. I think he was the captain of the Harvard debate. He's a very good debater, but it was really Jeb. And Jeb was the guy who had most of the attention in the early part of that primary. And he was an empty suit to me anyway.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Big time. Yeah, a hundred percent. Like he was as no-post as it gets. He was never going to have his own opinion on a thing. He was never going to have even one of his policies be like, Oh, you think that? Well, usually Republicans think this, interesting. You're your own man.
Starting point is 01:07:28 No, he's not. No, he's not. He was just Mitt Romney again, where it's like, oh, what do you want to know about Mitt Romney? Just whatever the Republican National Committee thinks is what he's been saying. When I heard he put his dog on top of the car, I was out, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I was like, well, fuck you, dude. I actually care about that. That speaks to your character to me, that you put that dog on top of the car. My dog don't ride on a fucking car. I ride on the car. I'll be on top before the dog goes on top. You'll let Toby drive? Yeah. I'll put him on whatever it takes. But Toby ain't going on the fucking roof. He's a member of the family. But not Murphy. You wouldn't put Murphy in charge? He fits in the glove box. He'd be fine. Yeah, it's it's all about outsiders. Anyone who I can perceive as like an outsider that the media hates. I like that person. That's why I like Bernie. That's why I like Trump. Would you would you go for a celebrity billionaire type or a celebrity slash billionaire slash influencer again?
Starting point is 01:08:30 But would you be, I don't want to say Joe Rogan, but like a Joe Rogan? Mr. Beast. Yeah. Mr. Beast is never going to appeal to anybody over 25 as far as being the president of the United States. Dude of Joe Rogan. I would love to see him just do a campaign ad
Starting point is 01:08:43 that's him counting to a hundred thousand. I would love the president Rogan address where he has to like sadly talk about how little real evidence we have for UFOs would be maybe the funniest thing ever. Guys, I know we're disappointed. I thought there was more. I think there's more. I think there's more. I don't know about the alien stuff. I think there's something more to the Epstein files than we're seeing. Oh yeah, they're 100%. Pam Bondi shredding them right now. You know she is. I don't think the next president's going to. I have no partisan blinders over my eyes. I'm fully aware of Pam Bondi is like destroying evidence right now that Trump
Starting point is 01:09:28 what did something over on that island or somebody did something on that island and they're buying crypto right now so that Pam shreds it. Maybe Trump wasn't a pedo. All right. Maybe he wasn't. I don't think he was, frankly. I think he likes him a little longer, but he did. He was creepy in that fucking talent show bullshit he hosted. Absolutely. I would say that shit girl way too young We saying that about even in even in New York
Starting point is 01:09:49 But but I could see where like maybe one of these people who's on tape you hit him up. It's like, oh man I just look Dave and fuck there's tapes of you bugger and little Filipino boys and Epstein's cheering you on and man, hey, did you see Trump coin went up today? Hi, yeah, we're real proud of it. Anyway, I got to call Pam Bondi over at the Justice Department. Even if those kids who said Trump fucked them are lying, Trump himself saying that, I'm paraphrasing, he knew Epstein liked girls on the younger side. I think that's actually perfect.
Starting point is 01:10:30 So Trump was covering for this petto and he knew it. I'm willing to believe any politician is a despicable piece of shit. Although it was said by the prosecutor for Epstein in the early 2000s that Trump was the only high profile person that came out and said, yeah, Epstein, this guy's a creep. He likes him young. I don't know if he phrased it like that. It was more like a, uh, yeah, no, he was, he's a good friend of mine. He likes the girls just like I do, but on the younger side, it wasn't exactly that. It was more like somebody who was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:10:57 Mustangs are fast and Jeff, he likes, he likes fast cars. And that's pretty good. I think I'm pretty close. Yeah, he's. I've known Jeff Debsin for 15 years, terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do. And many of them on the younger side.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Dude, I was generous in my quote. I mean, that's pretty fucking gross. He didn't say, I like them young, young though. Trump didn't. Trump didn't say that. Trump said that Epstein liked him young. He said he likes women like that. That's the big difference for me.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Did I say that? I didn't mean that. You did, but like it doesn't matter. Like we're, nobody's. I didn't mean to misquote him. I was trying to be right. Nobody's looking at us. But then here's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Like if one of us were going, when we say things we're a little more exact than Trump is, Trump just shoots from the hip constantly. And I'm not saying that excuses him. And I'm not saying you could really use that as a defense. But half the time what he says is factually incorrect. And? If you take a sentence, you're like, ah, that's not a word.
Starting point is 01:12:08 That's not the word you meant. It's close. I heard him just a couple of days ago. He was trying to say extricate. You know, he's talking about extricating the US from Ukraine, I think. And he said extradite, which is, I don't think extradite is a word. It might be, but I think he's what he meant was, yeah, I think I don't think extradite is a word it might be, but I think what he meant is what is it when you bring somebody from a different jurisdiction?
Starting point is 01:12:32 That is extradite. Yes. Tradition. Okay. Well, then he said something else. He mixed up extradition and extrication and made his new word. Whenever I see him or any politician flub and have a little moment, I look at the guys behind him
Starting point is 01:12:49 for just to see if they fucking, or if they flinch a little, if they have a moment. Cause I have those sometimes when I'm watching them like, what you meant mother? The accidental flubs, which I think fits into what you described, don't bother me as much. I see that and I'm like, dude, anyone who's spent enough time on the mic
Starting point is 01:13:08 has made up a word, something I call wordifying. But it's when he does stuff like, I lowered the price of eggs by 97, 98%. That wasn't an accident. And that is an exact quote. And I'm like, stop it with the horse shit. Stop saying you lowered egg prices by 98%. That would make them 25 cents for a dozen.
Starting point is 01:13:29 That would rule. Right? But it, and when you try to same wash it and say, well, maybe it wasn't 98%, maybe it was, you know, 30%. No, they're still $6. Like they're still higher than he was when he took office. How much did he lower prices? Negative 50%.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Oh, are your guys eggs still high? Yeah. Six dollars. I would say five maybe. Maybe it's because I go to a nice grocery store, but they're back down to 399, 499. Where we do whole foods. And I can literally check our last one.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I go to Schnooks. It's a regional grocer. Yeah. I get those egg liquid egg whites. So I don't, I don't buy real eggs. Unless Zach says average is 330. Okay. Well then that would be back to me. But is that, but that's also like, who was surprised by eggs going back down? They killed a fucking billion chickens and then they skyrocketed. And then the chickens went through their life and made more eggs and now eggs are cheaper.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Like this is such a weird thing to be. Gas price is the one that he should focus on. He should talk about the national average for a gallon of unleaded too. I don't know what he's talking about with his numbers. He must be talking about the national average of a gallon of unleaded too. I don't know what he's talking about with his numbers. He must be talking about the national average of a leader in Wisconsin or some shit when he quotes prices.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Like, yeah, I got it below $2. $1.88 he says gas is. Like just stop lying about everything you say. Who does that lie work on? Think about it. People who don't need gas. Nobody thinks Trump supporters are stupider than Trump does. Trump treats his supporters as if they're so dumb, they'll buy anything. Gas near me is $2.90.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah, it's here too. And so that's a dollar more expensive than what apparently he was claiming. This is a completely different topic and we should probably wrap soon, but think about how $3 feels now, even with inflation, everything gasoline is $5 from Katrina happened in Atlanta in 2004. It's $5 a gallon. You know how hard it was to sell a goddamn SUV? I remember they barely. That was your Vietnam. There was a point where trading in your SUV was like a really rough move because they would give you pennies on the dollar for the air.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Everybody's upside down anyway. Like, like I don't know if stocks, I don't know if car purchasing is like this in other countries. I had this idea that it's just the average Frenchman doesn't buy a car so that it's not even a thing but everybody's upside down in these six-figure cars right now and there's gotta be a bubble. Not any of us. Yeah, not any of us because we're not idiots.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Like when I see a hundred thousand dollar Jeep Wrangler, you're like, bro, what is that worth when I drive it off the lot? Eight, like 45? Do you like, like Jeep is the worst for resale value or it's in the bottom three. I'm positive. Cybertruck is the worst. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:38 So I think people pay like 125 for their Cybertrucks and I see them now on the used market for eighties. So like 85 to 90. We'll see, we're only a year out with like 3000 miles. So it's not exactly apples and apples. They're bad, but it's the musk hate, that's a big part of it. In conjunction with, it's not a good car.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Like if it were a sick ass car, people could put up with Hitler for a sick ass car. They did before, look at the bug. Right, right. Yeah, I don't think, I think there is a target market for non-truck buyers buying trucks, right? People who put, I say paramotors, but that's so small,
Starting point is 01:17:20 dirt bikes, kayaks, mountain bikes, like people, there are just people who like gardening, right? Who don't necessarily need a truck for towing, for big jobs, but you know, a claim to remember that a truck is good for them. It helps them work, woodworkers. And those guys would do well in a Tesla, but I don't know where I'm headed.
Starting point is 01:17:42 The Tesla itself are just tons of recalls, very expensive, doesn't meet any of its claims, whether you're talking about self-driving or mileage. And- Ugly. I try not to hamper on that one, because I have the beholder, but- I think it's important.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Like it's fucking aesthetically ugly. It appeals to a lot of people. It appeals to a lot of people more than it turns off for its niche in the market, I think. I think its appearance is a plus in the plus column, but I think that company is doomed. I think that it's not the same EV market that it was eight years ago. There's robust competition that's better. His self-driving is not as good as some of the other people now.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Like BMW and Mercedes have self-driving now. That's fucking good. You know what I mean? And it's the same price. All the car companies have their own little thing. They've all and those companies always had more revenue to sink into R&D than Musk seemingly had because it seems like he just bought a bunch of patents, bought Tesla and then never really
Starting point is 01:18:43 progressed the product very much further down the road. I guess there's some customers a lot more forgiving of lying than I am right and Musk just constantly not being honest about like what his cars can do when they'll come out what they do that even what is their class action lawsuit because they exaggerate how many miles it traveled so that the warranty runs out earlier and it comes close to the claimed miles. They're rolling people's odometers up to make them miss their warranty so their cars are covered anymore and people are getting their... What? Yes, yes, it's gonna be a
Starting point is 01:19:15 huge thing and people are getting their cyber trucks serviced and when they come out of the service they have either too many or too few miles on them. One guy was like my car has 5,800 miles on it. It has zero now. They rolled my car back to zero just on a checkup, like whatever they were doing to it. They were doing something, but came back with no mileage on it. And it's like, whoa, if I'm in the used market looking at a Tesla truck, I'm like, does it have 5,000 or 50,000 on it? Because it's unbelievably seedy. It's wild. It's changing the odometers bed against that company. If
Starting point is 01:19:49 anybody like everyone should you should buy puts to go. Yeah, but everybody else I don't know what the numbers are. It's probably important to understand like where it's going specifically if you're going to bet against Tesla. I don't know about that. But it's not going they're not going up. He's either getting fired and they're doing a huge rebrand and like wrapping their arms around the gay community and making like a, like the Tesla fag mobile or something like that. Like they're going to have to do something like that.
Starting point is 01:20:19 They're going to have to do a whole anti Hitler thing. They're going to turn on him and buy him out because he's, he's, I mean, it's trend is still good. And I don't know enough about stocks. I don't believe that. I don't believe it, I don't care. It says it's up in the last one year calendar,
Starting point is 01:20:32 it's up 96% in the last year to date, it's down 9%. In the last five years, it's up 531%, obviously. Yeah, the reason I think Musk is not getting fired is the stock price doesn't seem to be based on profitability. It's based on future promises. Yeah. And only Musk gets away with promising AI and Grok and,
Starting point is 01:20:57 I don't know, rollox that do your dishes. And like he has these robots are the next thing, right? AI and things like that. And I'm like. The AI in a physical bot is going to be. You've seen them, right? They look like androids, they dance on stage. That's what we need to get it in the home.
Starting point is 01:21:15 We need to get the price down to $2,500. Everybody needs one of their house. Like the moment you've got that Jetsons bot, remember the Jetsons, you had the bot that cleaned your house. Hello, sir, welcome home. We can do that now. We have that technology right now. You've seen what the language models are like
Starting point is 01:21:28 when you talk to chat. Yeah, when you talk to chat GPT, holy shit, I'm having full on like real life conversations where I've got errs and ahs and I'll be like, all right, well make me a graphic that looks like this, but look, not so cartoony as last time, you messed up, not cartoony. Think, pretend this is a law firm.
Starting point is 01:21:45 And I'll break it down and have these errs and ahs and pauses and at the end it goes, perfect. And like gives me all these great options. You can ask it very complex questions and sometimes it's full of shit. Sometimes it's full of shit. Don't get me wrong. But it's plenty good to run Rosie.
Starting point is 01:22:04 All you need is the interface to stick it in and you need a super Roomba type thing. That's the future if you ask me that's the next big thing that's going to be a trillion dollar fucking company is when they get those robo servants and fuck slaves in our homes. Like the moment you've got a bot that you can basically a wife replacement a trad wife replacement, right? One that something you can fuck, cleans replacement, a trad wife replacement, right? One that's something you can fuck, cleans your house, washes your dishes,
Starting point is 01:22:27 like does everything and it's got like a calendar app in the back or something like that. Everything's integrated into this one piece of tech. That's the next thing. And I feel like we're right there because you've seen the Tesla bots are bullshit. That was people remote controlling. I'm sure you've read that.
Starting point is 01:22:46 But we've also seen Boston Dynamics has robots that move better than the Terminator. My point was only Musk can get caught lying like that and watch the stock price go up. Anyone else would be discredited and destroyed. But Musk alone, I guess it's because he's made SpaceX real. He made Tesla real. And they think's because he's made SpaceX real. He made Tesla real, and they think he could make this next thing real.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Maybe, but I get too hung up on the, like I've said this so many times, if you tell me my bathroom's done in two weeks and it takes three, you made a mistake. I get it. You know what? We all miss estimate. If you say it takes two weeks and it takes two years, when you said two weeks, you were lying.
Starting point is 01:23:24 That was never even remotely true. And that's how I see Musk when he misses, when he says it's coming out in two months and it's decade later. Yeah. I see my prediction is that if they don't cut Musk out of that company, it is, and because what I think is happening right now
Starting point is 01:23:42 is the Trump administration is already distancing himself themselves from him He'll leave doge very soon. They are not getting those contracts as government cyber truck con Contracts that ain't gonna happen. They're not gonna like basically just give Musk half a billion dollars For whatever election shenanigans. He may or may not have been party to You know lots of theories around that. I don't think it's happening. There was this talk of armored Teslas for the army. You know, there was all that bullshit
Starting point is 01:24:10 and stuff like that'll keep your stock price upload. I'm sure people thinking that, hey, the most powerful man is buddy buddy with this guy. He's clearly dirty. Like I could see Tesla blowing up. But I think if Trump cuts Musk off, which is appears is what's coming, or at least that Musk doesn't wanna be part of the show
Starting point is 01:24:28 anymore because it is so toxic toward his personal like brand, which is what is keeping Tesla afloat to a big degree, I think. I think that's it. I think they're done. Because there's no new tech around the corner. It's not like he's out there.
Starting point is 01:24:41 All I've seen him pushing is the, I think it's called the new Tesla is the SUV. I think it's the Y. And I saw that like, oh yeah, you can download some software for $3,000 to make it fast. And it's like, bro, are you serious? The saw, it's the same thing all over again, where you've got thousands of dollars worth of software.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I would jailbreak that motherfucker. I'd hire hackers, whatever it took. Fuck you, Musk. There's no way I'd have my cutoff from their system. I would never pay those cocksuckers thousands of dollars for software. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:25:12 We should get to dinner. I'm down with that. I got to listen to more of this fucking Jake Tapper book. Yeah, two hours away from finishing it up. I'm looking forward to hearing about the Kamala downfall and how that all went. Again, my favorite part is the little look into their looking forward to hearing about the Kamala downfall and how that all went. Again, my favorite part is the little look into their, how they speak when they're not on camera
Starting point is 01:25:31 and they're all just foul-mouthed as fuck. And I like that. I like that they're all just like, fuck this, fuck that. This is fucking bullshit. They fuck everybody. It's just F-bomb. You would like Veep if you haven't seen it already. Oh, every bit of it, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:25:44 I didn't wanna get tricked. I bet you did like it. I didn't wanna get tricked, uh, if you haven't seen it already, I didn't want to get tricked. You did like it. I didn't want to get tricked by audible by signing up. And so I just bought it for $17. I knew just like you would that I would forget. And then I'd be paying. I'm like, am I subscribed to audible right now? I should go look. You just need to keep up with your credits. You don't want to let credits expire, but I'm happy to be on Audible. Every time I want a book, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:26:08 oh yeah, look at that, boop free, boop free. I know it's not free. I'm probably paying, I don't know what I pay a month. So less than 20 more than 10 though. It's averaged out to be- If it's a book I'm sincerely interested in, I want it physically. I want to control the pace of the reading.
Starting point is 01:26:25 But for now, I wish I had a physical book so I could have a highlighter and I could do it like college. I could have little post-its hanging out of it, color-coded. I wish I could flip through it and do that. I may even buy a physical copy. I think this is important. I think this is historical. I hope that it gets covered by major news agencies. I hope that CNN's covering it and very much selling the book. It seems like every episode is like, check out Jake's book.
Starting point is 01:26:50 They are paying him in advertising. Good, good. Everyone should know what was done. Yeah, it's wild. All right, PKN 561.

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