Painkiller Already - PKN 571

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

Just for the laws. Come on. I like to get those out of my system. It's like Candyman. You say it five times and if one appears then. It's like Bloody Mary. Exactly. I see what you're saying. Except you get robbed. We were talking about Happy Gilmore before maybe even before Woody joined the call. Yeah. It came out like a day or ago. Happy Gilmore to twenty seven twenty nineteen ninety six, like twenty nine years after the original. They've made the sequel. There were 62 or 64 cameos

that ranged from like a list celebrities to like one of them was a basketball player that you probably know Woody. He looks like he has gigantism or something. Wait guy? Yeah, yeah, he's got a silly name. When Chiz told me his name, I said, Gazuntite. Dude, Bo Van Marigot, that guy's awesome.

He's seven foot four and he enjoys farming. So he has a tractor. That tractor, if it's not older than me, it rivals me. It is a piece of shit. And I just watched this like multi-millionaire use this 50 year old tractor, moving dirt around. It's kind of funny. Does he look incredibly like, on like kind of silly in it,

like all hunched over? Yeah, it was like collarbone up kind of like, yeah, I don't know. I didn't get the view that you need. He looks silly in any apparatus that's meant for normal men. Like that's part of the joke. He was supposedly the son of the dead character from the original Happy Gilmore.

That's like got the nail in his head. You might remember. I don't know how well you guys remember Happy Gilmore from 1996. I remember it pretty well now that you're saying it again, but it's been many years since I've seen it. I believe that's Mr. Gilmore's jacket. He's that guy.

Yeah, they of course bring back shooter McGavin. That guy's the star of the movie if you ask me like like Sandler. Sandler isn't really downplaying his performance and he's sort of like drunk and depressed in the movie. His character is a lot of bad things have Happened to him. He lost it all essentially But then they have to recognize the fact that he won like five or six Masters tournaments So if you know golf and I don't they have a ton of like the most famous golfers ever if they're alive They're in it except for tiger. Um

of like the most famous golfers ever. If they're alive, they're in it, except for Tiger. Like Arnold Palmer's there and Arnold Palmer's like, could you give me, how about half sweet tea and half lemonade, let's try that on. All right, right away. There's like little throwaway gags like that. Travis Kelsey shows up as an obnoxious waiter. Like it.

It was really fun. And there were some moments that didn't like work for me Honestly, the bow band Marjanovic guy is not much of an actor and it showed you don't say yeah He was kind of his part was a little cringe. It stuck out as like ah, this guy's not a real act Did he speak was his voice? Yes super low. It's It's a weird voice Yes, super low. It's a it's a weird voice You almost forget naked every one of these has the throat of a tuba

And I hear like Scotty Pippen's voice or something and it is does it's almost inhuman. It's so low Yeah, he he gets completely naked and sprint and sprints onto the course to like create a distraction I think for happy Gilmore or something at one point. I don't remember exactly distracting. He looked but I mean I was like wow that giant is in really good shape but he is he's like nothing but sinewy muscle seven foot four of it I guess. I really liked the movie. I saw it was Netflix's biggest movie ever. It was like 50 million people watched it one day or something. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Uh, maybe we'll check it out could you ever like even enjoy the movie as a movie because i'm scrolling through the list of cameos and it's like How long was the movie i'm guessing like hour and a half. So like longer baby

so every 85 seconds or so a new celebrity or athlete shows up and is like I'm rude waiter Travis Kelsey. I'm they work. They work them into the plot and it doesn't stop. Like the show doesn't stop when Travis Kelsey shows up. It gets more interesting. Like Kelsey's not, uh, he isn't a wooden actor. Like, like he, he vibed as another part of the cast.

Um, and he was just a douche bag who was being mean to somebody. He didn't have many lines, but when he shows up, it's not like the story gets redirected to like, all right, let's do this Kelsey thing and then go back to Gilmore. They're woven into it. Like John Daly inexplicably lives in Happy's garage now. And he's just living around Happy's house

being a drunk piece of shit. He's like, come on, Happy, you're not gonna make 300 grand at some day job. Gotta go hit the ball, put the ball in the hole. That's as easy as that, happy. And he's just constantly drunk and fat. He doesn't swing a club the whole movie. Is he not John Daly?

He is John Daly. He is John Daly. Yeah, everyone is themself. Steve Buscemi's there like pissing in mailboxes. A funnier premise to me is if we learned that as soon as Happy won that first tournament from Happy Gilmore won that everything fell apart. There was no like this goes back to that, like no successful golf. Just one one off win over Shooter McGavin.

He was the most successful golfer of the 90s, except for Tiger Woods. And then after that, I don't want to spoil it because it happens in the first 10 minutes of the movie. There's something that happens that makes Happy's life take this nose dive of depression. He also has five kids to support. And he lost Grandma's house when everything happened, too. He lost it again. Ben Stiller's there lost grandma's house. When everything happened to he lost it again,

Ben Stiller is there he's back. He's got a pretty central role as like happy's AA meeting leader like he runs the AA meetings he's just a horrific human being. And the whole premise is that there's a new golf league that's that's trying to be like extreme golf. We play seven hardcore holes. We don't have time for 18. And it's like a video game golf. Like one of the holes is just a thousand yard par four. So no one can par it? They eagle it. That's the other premise is that I bird that I already get rather the people that are competing against Haffey aren't just regular golfers anymore. They're these people from the extreme league who have undergone experimental surgery to

remove a ligament in their hip so they can rotate 180 degrees around for their golf swing and get incredible like 500 yard drive power. So Haley Joel Osmond, who if you remember is a chubby fucker these days. Secondhand lions. I remember that. He is the golfing champion now and he turns all the way around a hundred degrees and gives you a wink and then unwinds and creates this 500 yard drive. When you said extreme athletes, I definitely wasn't picturing Haley Joel Osment. I was picturing, do you remember Turbo from American Gladiator? It's that! Yeah, the others are like that. One of them has a chainsaw. I'm not kidding. One of the golfers has a chainsaw and

it's like he never, he just revs it a lot. It's the same. Yeah, mind games. That's like the gun. I like it a lot. I especially like the shooter McGavin stuff. Adam Sandler is funny whenever he wants to be and I like the nostalgia of it a lot. I like seeing all and the cameos there were maybe like Bobby Lee had a cameo like his podcast is like featured for a minute and I was like I don't really need this you know like I hate on Bobby Lee and then uh that redheaded guy whose name's escaping me but like I didn't really need this, you know, like I hate on Bobby Lee and then that redheaded guy whose names escaped me But like I didn't need them in the movie, but the rest of the cameos by and large I really dug I think Sandler's own daughter is in the movie

I'm noticing also. Yeah, this article says his whole family in it is in it for cameos But this this people article I clicked is also purporting to be listing every single cameo and they put Hayley Joel Osment in that and it says the actor plays Billy Jenkins and it's like okay by that logic you know Christian Bale had a cameo where he portrayed the Batman yeah yeah. Hayley Joel Osment is is kind of the shooter McGavin of this so it's's two, there's two main villains, I guess, maybe even three, but the main two is the guy who's running the new extreme golf league that's trying to take over. He's a billionaire douchebag.

And then Haley Joel Osmond is like his ace in the whole star. That's, I mean, Haley Joel Osmond, he's probably 5'8", he's 250, like he's in gruesome shape. but he's the best golfer in the world now you know he's a listener right don't say that about me i loved you in ai do you remember that that movie he was in where uh that really famous actor got lions and it was a mistake and they weren't second-hand lions and Yeah, that's a wonderful movie. Yeah. I saw I've seen that movie probably a hundred times because it was a DVD

that got left in the back pocket of my mom's Odyssey. And so just all the time it was an old Lord of the Rings special feature disc or second hand lions over and over. God forbid, like because it was either that or all the spy kids movies that my brother wanted to watch. And those were brutal. Second hand lions is is one of those movies that makes me cry a little bit. There's that scene where like Robert Duvall's character is kind of, I don't know, it's really it's a dramatic performance. That bar scene that I just linked. I can't remember what he says. These like punks are messing with him. He's like,

I fought in two wars and loved one woman more completely than a man can ever love. I've killed men on four continents. And he's like going through all this shit while he chokes out this punk and the bar. It's a good little thing. I managed to completely forget that Alfred was in this film. Yes. Alfred's in there. Of the old golf movies, did you guys like Caddyshack or... Oh my goodness, the Billy Madison one. I don't think they compete against each other.

They came out like 15, 20 years apart. I think of old golf comedy movies, those are the only two that come to mind. I would have to go Happy Gilmore. I think of old golf comedy movies. Those are the only two that come to mind. Maybe they're all the best. I would have to go Happy Gilmore. I think Caddyshack was garbage. It's not that funny. It had a good song and everything about that

was just waiting for the song to come on, waiting for the chipmunk to dance. It was a shit fucking god awful bullshit, torturous movie to endure with a pretty cool dancing chipmunk. Not a Bill Murray fan or a Chevy Not a Bill Murray fan. I the first time I saw Rodney Dangerfield fan. I love it Oh, I thought Rodney Dangerfield was funny. I liked it. Yeah, but that's sophisticated douchey Murray. This is drunkard

dotered Murray he's like a This is it stepping up to the line. This shot is for the 1986 Masters. Oh, and he got a hold of it. Oh, and he's hitting a halt. When he's just out there stroking his golf club while watching the senior ladies tee off, all that to me, it's all improv. It's all just him. They're like, point the camera at him. They're like, for this scene, you hit some flowers, go.

And he improvs that whole like bullshit of him doing the thing that we've probably all done for you fantasizing your head that you're at the deciding moment of the world series or the Superbowl. And you're like, this is it. All the marbles are on the table sort of moment. He's doing that. I like all that.

And I love Rodney Dangerfield and that. I don't know. I think I like it more than Happy Gilmore, honestly. But I like Happy Gilmore a lot. I was like 14. And last time I saw, I mean, that's been forever. It's been so like, I remember laughing at Rodney Dangerfield and Bill Murray and all that.

But even at like 14, like the fifth time the woodchuck or whatever pops up, I was like, I think we're all a little mature for this. Enough of this. It started out really trying to focus on the love story, right? Of the caddy and his Irish inexplicably accented girlfriend. But those three like Chevy Chase and Bill Murray and Roddy Dangerfield are so strong that they really steal the show. I like that movie a lot.

I don't think it's a perfect movie. It's definitely got some moments that I'm like, all right, let's get to the next scene. I don't need to see Chevy Chase like- I don't see any path on how that movie could get from where it is to average. It's too far. Zach, what's the Rotten Tomatoes on Caddyshack?

So you hate the groundhog that much? The groundhog is the only thing I like. There's like four good minutes in that movie. I mean, it has been, you know, a decade and a half. Maybe I'll watch it again. 73%. All right. That's a C. That's a meaty C. That's rotten tomatoes. It's a complete like you'll see good movies that have 50 on there. And it's I don't I don't think 70 is a C for rotten tomatoes. I mean, if I see 70, I'm like, all right, this could be pretty good. It's rare that there's a 70 plus.

That's like a bad movie. I don't know what the new one mother's caddyshack. Yeah, but we've also we've looked at their top list before and the like critic list is so different from the people list. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're two different. Where it's like really, you're putting fucking Rosebud or whatever that was at number one. I think the fact that they're different lends a lot more like credence to the site and the idea that the site does a good job of weighing and measuring films most of the time.

Cause some stuff gets astroturf, some stuff gets attacked by certain groups of people and stuff, but by and groups of people and stuff. But by and large, sometimes I'm looking for a movie that critics like, and sometimes I'm looking for a movie that audiences like. Audiences like popcorn movies. They like happy endings. Critics might like something that's just subtext, and you've got to look beyond what's actually on the screen to understand what it means.

It might be a little more complex or controversial. Someone like Kyle, who's seen so many movies might enjoy critics picks also, because they've seen so many movies, right? Like a popcorn movie that's been done to death. A critic might be like, this sucks. And to them it does because they watch seven, 10 movies a week. But to me who doesn't watch that many movies, maybe popcorn's fun. I can see kind of like the Meg. The Meg is a good example. I don't know what

the Meg's Rotten Tomatoes is, but I would guess critics were kind of mad on it and fans really liked it. It's Jason Statham fighting a Megalodon. At one point he's on a jet ski and he has spears on his back and he's like playing chicken with a Meg chicken with a megalodon like somehow the megalodon has agreed to play chicken with a jet ski It makes no sense. That's a good popcorn movie. I like that just fine Just corrected you he said actually that's the Meg too You're right. I'm sorry that you're 100% right. That is I mean, it must have been good It sucked you in enough to follow the series. I had to see the second one. The first one wasn't bad. I look, what are you telling me? There's an even bigger shark this time.

That's how it goes. No, there's four of them. It's, it's absurd. We're not trying to deal with more than one of these big sharks at a time. Now there's two Meg too. Yeah. I didn't see any of those sci-fi original, uh, Collins like bad movies and it's hilarious to me. Like it, I'm like, you know, what movie did you watch? I forget what the name of the movie is about a five headed shark. It might even be called five headed shark,

but what's funny is he's in for the sequel, six-headed shark. He's in for the sequel to that, which I think is seven-headed shark. Does he watch the Sharknado movies? Because those are the ones that are famous for being corny. Yeah, all of those.

What's important here, Woody, is does he know the history? Did he start with 2012's Two-Headed Shark? Probably did, probably did. He gets movie selections from Dead Meat a lot. Does he know the history? Did he start with 2012's two-headed shark? He gets movie selections from dead meat a lot he really likes that YouTube channel and So they'll like review something then he has to go watch it. This is the Wildest series two headed shark three headed shark four headed shark five headed shark six headed shark I watched a documentary Like two nights ago about the history of shark movies and they go through all obviously jaws is the granddaddy of them all the big Blockbuster, but it went through the multi-headed shark movies. It went through all the shark Nato's

Can you pull up a picture of the six headed shark or whatever the whatever the top one is seven headed shark? After that sharktopus because that's even better. Okay. Colin was like, this is what I'm watching. And I think it was at the five headed shark at the time. I'm like, this is really, I'm not sure it's even more dangerous than a one headed shark, honestly. It seems safer.

I feel like I can hide in the necks somehow. It seemed like it would swim more slowly. It wasn't hiding. It comes on land though. It sort like it would swim more slowly. It wasn't. It comes on land though. It sort of comes on land. It used the other heads as like limbs to like paw at the sand like a crab and move forward. And there's sharked bus. There's like six shark natos or something crazy like that. And there's just been tons and tons of shark movies. I like I said, I watched that documentary about shark. There you go.

The six headed shark. Six headed shark. Oh man. That's psychotic. You're right. That's a bigger boat. That's way less threatening. That thing's going to be slow.

It's going to be cumbersome. Yeah. It's eating six people at the same time. Look. Oh, there is a person in every mouth. There's your sharktapus. Again, this actually, no, this is scarier. It's on land.

This isn't CGI either. This is real. I've got a keen eye for this. Yeah. If you can't trick me. I thought I had a keen eye for it. The Trump, the end of the last South part with the whole Trump skit,

that's not AI. That's an actor. And they do some sort of face manipulation, but the body and the environment is all real in camera. I saw a picture today of either Matt or Trey like on the ground being like, yeah, like next to the fat Trump on the ground naked. Do you ever feel bad for the people, like kind of bad for like big fat people who are cast just because they're disgusting, where it's like, hey, we need someone for our film. And frankly, your face isn't even going to be in it. It's going to be, you know, CGI. But we need someone like disgusting bedsores, just a real vile person,

the kind of person out in public. No one wants to see you. You know what? You're perfect. Like in my head, I'm like, that person's got to be so conflicted. They're like, I just got a job. I'm an actor. Oh my goodness. Well, I don't think it's said quite like that. They reach out to agents and stuff and there's a casting call for like unique looking obese man. unique looking obese man, like like like obese rotten farmer hillbilly murderer. And the guy's like, that's me. I was obese rotten farmer hillbilly and wrong turn one, two, three, four and five. It didn't make the cut for you.

And each of the Hills have ice films. You will remember me as the prolific rapist. I don't like those movies either. Those are the horror movies that I always steer away from. No pun intended. Is those those wrong turn movies where we end up in the in the boondocks with like hillbilly rapist incest clans you let us to from. Oh, that's completely different, though.

That's a wrong channel movie. Um, well, what I mean by wrong term, there's a series of movies called Wrong Turn. Like that's literally the title of the movie. The the and they always involve like hillbillies who are like you've stumbled into their backwoods environment. And it's usually snotty city kids Maybe maybe with too much money and there'll be one kid amongst them who like had a he's on a scholarship and she'll live But the rest of them are getting raped and murdered and eaten to death by the hillbillies. He'll have his eyes is the same thing Like you said

So what happened to from? But I stopped watching it after season two, maybe think season three is all out I believe. And I know they're making it. I think they're making five seasons. I think they already said, I think it's doing okay. It has lost vibes to me in that, like, it was a really good premise.

They just didn't know where to take it. Mm-hmm. That's so like lost is the show throughout high school. That in prison break that I had one, like multiple like friends in high school and one guy in particular I was close with was always ranting and raving. Like, you've got to watch Lost. It's incredible. Our whole family watches it every Wednesday, whatever it was. And he's like, I can't wait to see how it all unfurls and how they connect these,

these different theories and prophecies. And, and it was literally like Game of Thrones before Game of Thrones, because that show ended and immediately the next day he's like, I don't know if I hate anything as much as lost. I was kidding, at least, in the drum bags. It was half a dream, but what half, what parts were dreams? It's hard to believe how writing stabs

actually work on a level that big, but I was just watching something last night that was talking about how Star Trek, the next generation would write their two-parter episodes. Their season finales were always two-parter cliffhangers, so you'd have to come back the next year and figure out if Card makes it, if we beat the Borg or whatever, and that did so well that they always did a two-parter after that. And the writing team for the first one, they just had to write you into the box, and then a completely different writing team nine months later would come on and had to write you into the box. And then a completely different writing team,

nine months later would come on and have to write them out of the box. That's a bad system. It's a terrible system. It leads to terrible stories. It leads to great first-parters and like weird second-parters because they can ask all these questions and they can sort of give you a brief peek behind the curtain and they could throw the crew into this diabolical dungeon situation. And then they're like, all right, we're done. You all figure out how to get out of there and figure out what that magic is too. They kinged it? Yeah.

They kinged it up? Yeah. I'm starting that. That's when you have an incredible idea for a premise and then 80 pages from the end. He's written himself into a corner and he goes, it's some kind of fucking magic. Some kind of fucking magic made that dome come down to the city. And it's like, what are you talking about, dude? He, I hate the harp on him because I do like his stuff so much, but a lot of it's entertaining. His endings really are almost always a let down like I was like this you ever read the stand it's incredibly long it's the one about the virus no I know that's a whole series isn't it I if it is I

didn't know it I thought I was one fat ass book um and at the end of that it just keeps building and building you're like oh my god this is The devil's involved now. Satan himself is on earth walking. He's turned Las Vegas into like a Sodom and Gomorrah. And he's rallied the virus survivors as a demonic army. They don't even know that they're contributing to his evil global takeover plan. And then they're like, ah, and then like, I guess like a bomb went off or like, I don't know,

maybe God blew them everything up. Yeah, that's it. That's it, we're done. We're done here. We're done. Yeah. And then sometimes they'll even end it in a way where they LARP as though, well,

I wanted to leave it open-ended so the audience could draw their own conclusions. And it's like, no, you couldn't wrap it up in a way that was cogent and tied up all the fun little threads you had already unraveled throughout the tale. If Stephen King had written Interstellar, it would have ended with like, oh, and then they got the corn to grow better and we just, it was cool. The end of the mist. You've seen the movie The Mist where they're stuck inside the grocery store.

That's kind of stupid, yeah. And at the end, what do you mean it's kind of stupid? It's amazing. That's Frank Darabont's ending. The tentacles at the end he what do you mean? It's kind of stupid. It's amazing. That's bringing Darabond's in the end There's not tentacles at the end He kills his whole family at the end and then he realizes that if he'd had the courage to go out and for his family At the beginning like Carol from the Walking Dead did who you then see on like an M1 Abrams with her family clutching them Then he could have saved them. But now he's lost his wife. He's murdered his own son He's killed his new love interest, who in the book, he fucks, he cheats on his wife.

Like after being gone for one night and it's danger, fucks her, and then the old man too. He kills them all. And that's Frank Darabond's ending. Stephen King's ending to his short story is, and they drove off into the mist, not knowing what was to come, or if there was an't into this mist.

Dude, he does that all the fucking time. He wrote a book called cell, where it's about how I think it's like a 2004 book or something. And so like, cell phones were in most adults hands by that point. And it was like, there was a mystery call. And when you answered it, some tone played or something and it made you go feral and crazy and like 28 days later style, but you know, not like superhuman fast. And you're like following this like band of people who figured it out because they saw in public like, Oh, that lady at the ice cream shop, uh, just like it starts so intense. Like a lot of his books where he's like,

just some random schlub guy who's like, Oh, I couldn't make the sale. I'll pick up an ice cream from my gal and I before I go home and give her the bad news about the job interview or whatever it was. And he's like, I was standing behind these girls and one of them took a phone call. And then almost like in slow motion, she began to gnaw out the throat of the girl next to her as they screamed. And the ice cream man picked up his phone to call 911 and then he leapt and started eating the girl who was eating the other girl. And like a couple people figure out not to answer phones. And he builds this whole thing where like there's theories the whole time

they find some genius who's like, you know, they've, they've talked about this kind of thing, like, like a brown note. He doesn't use the brown note, but that's sort of like, you know, they've, they've talked about this kind of thing, like, like a brown note, he doesn't use the brown note, but that's sort of like, the Russians, the Chinese, the, the, you know, the, whoever's always that character, by the way, the guy who's like, he's, he's, he's maybe even overly paranoid, he's got theories that, that that's not what it is, but maybe I don't know what it is. And there's always that character. How does it end? What was the end? In the end, they like trick a bunch of these zombies into following a car that had like explosives in it in the middle of a field and then they blew it up. But the zombies were also getting smarter

and they had made, he'd made a big to do over like a hundred pages about how much smarter they were getting. And so this level of tomfoolery no longer made sense as a way to fool them based on, you know, I was 80 pages into him being like, they're learning to communicate to like, they're now adapted communication and perfecting telepathy amongst each other. Okay. And then at the end, they

blow them up. All the key people survive. And it's the exact same thing where it's like, and then we set off walking, not knowing, you know, where the road would take us. And it's the exact same thing where it's like, and then we set off walking, not knowing, you know, where the road would take us. And it's like, yeah, that works in Lord of the Rings because that's like a joke. Was that in the book of short stories? It's what Bilbo's doing beforehand, you know, because Bilbo was leaving his own story open-ended, but that wasn't where Lord of the Rings ended. Was that in like a compendium of like short stories?

Because the, the,? Because the mist is. And so that's why I don't fault it for his open-ended ending. This was like a 300 page book. Like it was a real book. Okay, the mist is more like maybe 150. I remember it being like a Ghostbumps book or a Goosebumps book type situation. Like a real quick read amongst maybe five other stories

and a mashup of them. I don't fault the short stories for having those open-ended endings because it allows for somebody like Frank Darabond to take it and make the movie The Mist, which I really, really like. I like the short stories. There's also a huge... I have whole books of sci-fi and horror short stories and even a giant HP Lovecraft one called Lovecraftian. What's that scary book everyone talks about the Necronomicon.

And it's ton of those and short stories. All like so often at least 60% of them a majority, you start reading it awesome premise. And then it ends at the end of the premise period and it's meant to just be like Ah, I wonder what happened. It's got me thinking now and it's like that's frustrating to me because it's like damn it Don't call a premise a story like I was really good because I think he licenses them really cheap like a dollar or something to people like he has some kind of an interesting deal the way he'd like Like like lets people make movies for his for his films and a dollar. I'm out But like I like the starting off points and he is really good at that he's

Maybe he should leave all of his endings open-ended and let a better Creator come in and be like ah now see it was this the whole time. Oh, thank God I cuz I've been I'm eight thousand pages in this thing is thick. He was doing cocaine when he wrote this. Misery is a good one. Misery has a good ending. You know, you just resolve the whole thing. Did everything works out? He doesn't escape. He didn't even need feet. Yeah. That was the lesson. He gets away. They punish the evil lady and you know,

Clean her hand Dolores Claiborne. Did he write that one? That's the one about the lady Um in the movie, it's Kathy Bates again, and I think like I like her she's a husband like Molesting a daughter and she murders him or something. It's I don't remember it having any sci-fi or fantasy concepts Kind of like the mr. Mercedes. That's another one I like the Mr. Mercedes book series is 99.99% real world gumshoe detective trying to stop a modern day like psycho terrorist, who just like random kills people because he's sick in the head. He's this fucked up guy who like wants to fuck his mother and he's he's just always thinking about poisoning cheese. Like, oh, I could get an ice cream truck and I could poison so many kids.

I could make, he's just thinking of being evil all the time. And at the very, very end, there's this one moment where it's like, and then he moves something with his mind. You're like, what the fuck? He turned into a super villain at the last page of the first book. Damn, this guy could have killed a lot more people. He was being kind of reserved, if anything, not using his telekinesis powers. He developed it because of a brain injury.

The Mr. Mercedes books are really good. I liked those a lot. Kyle, have you pulled the trigger on your Traeger yet? I'm actually looking at competitors. I went down this Reddit thread and they were suggesting, I don't remember the brand name, but the Traeger is sort of a horizontal barrel design almost like it's wider than it is tall.

But there's another way where you invert the barrel and it's taller than it is wide. So you have a, and there's also electric charcoal and maybe something something propane. So I'm kind of like looking into the pros and cons of, of all that. I think I want an electric one. Um, and it's just, yeah. Burns wood pellets.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what mine is. Yeah. I plug it into the outlet in my sunroom and have it right on my back patio. But I'm never going to make more than one rack of ribs and like two sides or something. Like I'm not gonna create a feast for 15 people ever.

I'll never need the really big thing. So I'm sort of trying to decide which one to get. But I'm gonna get one. I want ribs. You only make the mistake of making one rack of ribs once and then you can only make two racks of ribs because they go they go so quick. What kind of ribs? I also I've never made ribs before so I don't even know. I get a little intimidated when I look at the grocery store and there's like four or five different

kinds of ribs. There's like baby back ribs and there's there's there's beef ribs and there's pork ribs and there's spare ribs. St. Louis ribs or something. Yeah, St. Louis spare ribs. That's what I usually make. Can the smaller thing you're looking at handle more than one rack of ribs? Oh yeah it can do like even the small ones do like two chickens and six racks of ribs. Yeah I could fit a lot. If Taylor says one is a mistake you don't want to invest in something that only makes okay. Yeah, I could fit. I was like, if Taylor says one is a mistake, you don't wanna invest in something that only makes mistakes. Yeah, I have like a, like I don't have one of those giant extra long ones

and I've never put, and I've made a shit ton of meat before and it's never been an issue of like, ah, spacing, this is difficult. The one time I did have a space issue is when I was doing like 50 peppers at once for salsa and that's because they all had to be laid like Trying not to touch them. Yeah

question for you people Does the bigger one have any upsides or downsides like? Does it somehow have better smoke or spacing or maybe a downside like hot and cold sections that that don't work Like you hope they do So the features that are important to me is that I want everything to run off of an app and to be 99% like autonomous. Like I wanna set it and forget it. I want it to adjust everything.

And so that's the main thing to me. They all have similar like quality. Like the ones I'm looking at, there aren't any bad ones that just don't cook well. They all get the job done. It's just a question of $ hundred dollars versus thirteen hundred dollars. And I don't want to. I hate assembling things. This is the the this is the most faggy thing about me, if I'm being honest, is

that I'm not a man of I'm not the man of the house in the in the in the sense that I do not want to put together your if you order Ikea furniture and you're dating me, that's on you, that's on you, motherfucker. All right. I buy my shit put together or Ikea. If you order Ikea furniture and you're dating me. That's on you. That's on you motherfucker, all right? I buy my shit put together or I pay somebody to do it. Isn't that like a, yeah, yeah, you touched on it in the end. I feel like that's gig work nowadays. There are people who are just good at Ikea

and you can hire them and it's worth it. I go on Thumbtack. I got my elliptical. I went to put it together. This is like a year ago now, maybe a little more. And I was like, what the fuck? What is all this? Oh, God, it's all awkward and heavy, too. Oh, my God, it's going to take half an hour

to even get it out of the box. And I came with pieces of paper. I probably don't need those. I'm on thumbtack. And I'm just like, well, anybody do this for seventy five dollars? Because that is a fucking please. And sure enough, found a guy did it for like 75 bucks and I tipped him another 20 and it was like, that was a well spent $100. It took him an hour and a half, two

hours to do it. And he's a professional putter together guy. Right? You could have been like for three or four. I get I get them for that. And I had a desk put together and I had another piece of gym equipment like a I got a big squat rack that required a little, but you know, I didn't want to do it. I just hired the most frustrating assembly experiences of my life have been putting together my own gym equipment in the basement when like, you know, you have a podcast on or something and you're like,

just trying to tune out how bored you are by it. And you get like five steps into something. And then you realize like you put the plate something seven steps back in a like slightly incorrect way and so now the stippled grip portion of the foot plate isn't facing what you need. Now you have to go back six steps and I'm always like all right like you know how you're supposed to put it together very loosely and then go back through and retighten everything. Sometimes there are parts where like you don't like you don't you think there's no reason to ever go back. And so

it's like, all right, well, I'm gonna like tighten the fuck out of this part, because this is just the sliding apparatus for this, the hack squad. So like, I then I won't have to come back and do this. And so then I'm like fighting me of 30 minutes ago, like what fucking idiot tightened this before it's on the fucking space shuttle. I'm gonna put one time on every bolt. Yeah, exactly.

I'm listening to all of this through my own brand of autism. And it's like, you make mistakes assembling it. I never do that. I get it always right all the time. I swear that's true. However, using an impact wrench on steel things like gym equipment is so loud. I'm like, let's rock in the corner for me. Because that is the move.

It's so fast. Like I've got my wrench to hold the nuts and I got my drill, my impact drill, and I've got the universal bit on there that when you look at the face of it, it's not a 19 millimeter, 20 millimeter, whatever. It's just a bunch of teeth and they can each depress. So when you mash it onto a bolt head, it fits anything. Oh my God, I love that.

I wouldn't use it on like a nice car or something that was gonna have bolts showing that, I don't know, something fancy, but for gym equipment. Brrrr, brrrr, brrrr, it's so convenient and fast. It was just a job well done. Don't use that socket, but I get prepared. I'm like, all right, this whole thing has two different size bolts, fine. And so I grabbed four sockets,

because the two sizes, and then I like deep and not deep, and I have them in one hand. And then I grabbed two wrenches, and I'm off to the races. I always tell myself, I start out every assembly thing like with gym stuff, like especially that hack squat leg press thing, like they tear up that package.

That's like all the plastic like shrink wrapped to it with the labels under it. And then sometimes when you're tearing that off, the label for what it was is removed. And so then I'm like trying to like get a fingernail under the corner of like what's now trash and like try and see like, is this the number four bolt? What is that?

And then like, once I get cooking though on it, I just am like, I can wing it from here. Titan doesn't send instructions. Titan fitness equipment. No, you have to go online. You have to go online on your phone. And I remember my screen was broken when I was putting together the damn,

The pull thing? The pull up and space now. Dip. Dip machine, yeah. And it's got pulleys and a whole system. It's a little involved. And I remember I finally got that thing put together and they had left a piece out.

I didn't lose it. They had left out like a central core piece that like a pulley, one of the pulleys wasn't there. And I looked everywhere and I didn't lose this thing. Like I didn't get it. And I have to call me like, I have $1,200 piece of equipment here and it's missing one pulley. And they're like, Oh, okay, we'll pick that one back up and send you an it was this whole rigmarole and like I had to take it apart And package it back up

It looked like shit. I couldn't believe they took it back Imagine what it would look like if you like I didn't take that box apart with care I slashed at it with a razor knife. Oh, yeah, like ripped it apart like a bear I'm like a dog with a Christmas present with those bags. I'm cutting it in every different direction. It's so frustrating when you... So that's why I'm sort of leaning toward the more expensive Traeger in a roundabout way is to get back to it is Amazon offers free assembly, which is normally $150 on the big Traeger. And so that gets me... It's like, you're like making money on this deal. Do I want to put together a $600 grill or do I want to sit back and watch a $1,200 grill

get put together for me? Now if you're- Or you could thumb tack it for 75 bucks. Yeah, if you're getting one similar to me, it is not even close. There is no piece of gym equipment like as easy to put together as the Traeger none of its particularly heavy You have to like make sure the wheels are on right and everything's tightened

Like there's not there's really not much to do like the biggest piece of it is that big fucking barrel and that's all in one chunk Is the green one on your list I Big green I'm sorry, is the green one on your list? I love the big green. Yeah, I've rated. So the thing about the green egg, I think, in my research, is that you're able to get really high temperatures to achieve a sear on steaks that you normally wouldn't get without creating these layers of brown between the crust and the pink interior. If you've been to like, I'm sure you have, I know you have, like Morton's and Ruth's Chris, Ruth's Chris in particular, they're on sort of the pink interior. If you've been to like, I'm sure I know you have like Morton's

and Ruth's Ruth's Chris in particular. They're almost sort of the same level they have like a 1500 degree like broiler oven that they finish their steaks in it they like run them through a little conveyor belt under 1500 degrees of just angry fire and it makes a really nice crispy crunchy Maillard reaction crust on the steak that you can't really achieve as well on a cast iron. You like the Maillard reaction? Yeah, I was confused by it. What is a Maillard reaction? The Browning reaction in cooking. We had to learn that in food science. Big shout out to my professor who wore a bolo tie.

Recreate your good fond. Yes. What you got stuck on brown bits at the bottom. I'm excited. Yes. I'm excited you're going to get it, but I'm even more excited. You're tantalized by ribs because that is by far what I have made the most in there over the years. Like I've made ribs dozens of times.

I don't like prime rib. I'm that guy. I find it a little gross. It's gotta be good. I don't like the look like prime rib. I'm that guy. I find it a little gross. It's gotta be good. I don't like the look of prime rib. That's not my favorite thing, but ribs with like a good, like deep smoky homemade sauce that's a little spicy.

I'm super into that. I love it. Yeah, you're gonna wanna do pork ribs. And then between baby back or spare, it depends on your preference. Baby back ribs are gonna have less meat on them. When you go to a restaurant, like Chili's, they're giving you baby back ribs.

They're shorter and they're more tender, but there's not as much meat on them. Spare ribs- Is it a small pig or a different part of a big pig? The different part, the spare, the baby back ribs are the higher part of the rib, the spare ribs are the lower part. So the spare ribs are fattier and richer.

And there's also, they're heartier. There's more meat on them compared to the baby back ribs. I want baby back ribs. Yeah, it's whatever your preference is. And so you pick one and then you just look up a three, two, one rib recipe. And it's like, ribs are like a smoked food where there is genuinely, there's no debate.

You can look up brisket stuff and some guy will be like, I swear by this cook time and some other brisket expert will be like, Yep, I tried that didn't work. I go two hours longer, always two hours longer. And you look at both pictures their brisket and both of them look fucking fantastic. Like that too. Yeah. But with ribs, it's like you put it in with the bone side down, like an arch for three hours and then with mustard on it because there's some sort of binder Dijon or something usually and then you take it out

and then you put it but you can moisten it with apple cider vinegar put it back in on the other side for two hours in foil and then you take it out flip it over again bone side down sauce it if you want i like to sauce it later in the process because if you put too much sauce on early, it almost caramelizes it too much. I don't like super sweet barbecue. I like more tangy vinegary. I like spicy. Or spicy. The barbecue sauce I grew up with was liquid. It no, no viscosity at all and really vinegary and really spicy. Carolina style vinegar barbecue is my favorite sauce type.

Like just soak a pulled pork sandwich in it to the bond almost falls apart. My mouth watering so much. Mm hmm. Yeah, you got to do it, dude. The thing to remember is get pulled the silver skin like off the bottom of the ribs. Some people forget to do that. And then they're like, why didn't it cook right? And it's like, well, you forgot a really key process. I've actually done that before.

I tried to make ribs in the oven one time, maybe five, 10 years ago, and I threw them away. It's what happened. They came out and I like picked at it with a fork and like, fuck this, you're going, no, this is a fail. Did you get them done right? And it's like, almost annoying how much they're falling off. Because it's like, oh, now it's barely even a hand food. These are so tender, you tear off whole sides in one bite. It's fantastic. I got to do

ribs again. It's been like a month. That's a crazy expensive I went to order ribs at the restaurant the other day. It's like $35 for these, it's just like four or five. How much is it to make? Way cheap. Ribs are one of those cuts of meat that like, if you get it at a restaurant, it's like a 10X markup because you go to the grocery store and like ribs

are one of the biggest hunks of meat for the cheapest price because it takes a lot to cook them and they're not an expensive cut. And so always make ribs at home. It's way cheaper. And once you figure it out, if you have a real smoker and you like follow a recipe, they are restaurant quality. They're just as good in there actually a little bit better because now you don't have the limitations of the sauces and seasonings of the restaurant. Like you can get whatever you want, whatever you please. You can choose not to sauce them

and then add sauce after the fact if you wanna try a bunch of different sauces on it. It's fantastic. Make sure you get some apple cider vinegar, some butter. That's the best thing to like baste it with throughout is apple cider vinegar to keep it moist. Apple goes so well with pork. You know this, you're a culinary man.

Yes, yes, yes. Maybe I'll rub it with a cinnamon apple sauce and make a cinnamon apple sauce pork rib. I bet that would be good. I don't know what temperature cinnamon burns at. Hopefully not that bad. Usually it's like, the first three hours of ribs is only like, what is it?

190 degrees or something like that. Then it then you kick it up to 225. Yeah, I'll let you know which one I decided to get. I look at it for 20 minutes every day and then I get distracted by it. But I'm going to get one soon. We've got we're going to do our hangout after this. If you want to join this link down below, there's a guy in there who

was in I think the not the Air Force maybe the Air Force it doesn't matter he flew drones in the Middle East he has 291 confirmed kills. I know you both know but I just kind of wanted to tell the audience it is weird talking to that guy because that guy has more kills than like Chris Kyle and like Sergeant York combined. You know what I mean? Like it's as many kills as the rest of the call combined almost. Some of those guys have that sales and most of those other ones are antagonists. Women though those don't even count. He was running, he was doing the Obama drone program, I think mostly against ISIS. And I can't remember what his biggest multi-kill was, but it was even 13 or 17, like crammed into one van with one missile.

And I don't know, it's weird talking to a guy like that, because I can't imagine. Like, you know, we play Call of Duty. And he's bad. Would you feel bad? Because, all right, let me, you know, we play Call of Duty. And he's bad. Would you feel bad? Because, all right, let me tell you this. You might've not been there when he said this. He said, some guys would feel bad. And it's easy to feel bad because you're up here

and you're just pushing a button and then their whole world detonates and body parts go everywhere. He's like, so we would watch those ISIS beheading videos to get hiked up. And they'd be like, this is the people we're going after today. This guy right here cutting this like American journalists head off with us. No, not, not, not that video.

That's the, that's actually the kind of cool one where there's like dubstep and one of the bad ones, no music mute this. But like, I wonder if you think of like medieval battles and ancient battles No one ever came close to killing 300 men themselves Like that's got to be an entirely modern accomplishment like to kill hundreds of men Even if you're really really good you get what 12 Yeah, I don't even know I don't know

But I wouldn't be shocked at 20 or like if you were like the best and you were chopping down peasants, you knock out 20 30 guys, but you're not gonna get 300. That's crazy. Yeah, wow. That's so many. Don't you wish you'd gone now and done that job? Like that's the job. No, no, I'm glad I didn't go to. I wonder if it haunts him at all. Yeah, because the dude in my family trying to detox him, but he drove a tank in the first Iraq war. And that was a lopsided tank battle. And it did keep them up at night. Help. They weren't in tanks at the time.

They were in tanks. They just couldn't move. They were. Like blow them up. Their tanks, they seem to be fleeing, but really they're running to their tanks, which are just over the horizon. They're like advancing at 45 miles an hour on sand dunes, hitting shit on the fly with pinpoint accuracy. And the other people are like guessing, you know, missing trying to start their tanks, surrendering to CNN. Like that's some images of the Highway of Death for us.

That's what it's called. I've got some here. That's her money ball. Yeah, I don't know about that. That's where they got it for the war for they watched Moneyball. Yeah, the Highway of Death. This is when the Iraqis were retreating from Kuwait with what remained of their formally invasion force along this one highway that led back home. And the idea was that they made it back home.

They were going to be able to, what do you call it? When you form your troops back up after a retreat, they're going to be able to do that. And so this happened instead. They just kept shooting with tanks and helicopters. So they were unable to regroup. They were stuck on this highway bumper to bumper and the United States like destroyed the nose of it. And then they destroyed the tail of it. And then they all worked toward the middle

until everything was dead. There are some much more gruesome shots that you probably shouldn't show of the, it looks like Terminator 2. You wouldn't get this reference, Taylor, but there's skeletons. There's like skeletons holding the wheel of a car going, ah!

Like 80% skeleton, 10% flesh. And he's all charcoaled and blackened, like something out of- Is that where that famous picture is from? Yeah. Because I've seen that of the guy, guy like looks like he's like falling out the front and it literally looks like like a Halloween store. I hear I found him here.

This is him. I love the Internet. Are you sure he was a bad guy? That guy is a dead guy. That looks like a tank or some sort of tank like vehicle. It doesn't look like a car. I look like truck to me.

The way that it's like the AC vents are right there where the windshield used to be. Maybe maybe I'm seeing him like his heads out of the roof, but maybe I'm not. That's the defroster in front of him and the windshields gone and you can see through the back cab it looked like an army truck or Something to me, but yeah, those guys got toasted. I don't remember how many thousands we killed there, but we Yeah, we I think we can say we would this more than I can say like we won the World Series in 1995 I mean I had nothing to do with that Braves team Did you have 45 when this was happening? Yeah, yeah roughly but we were rooting for him back at home

I remember watching on TV and mom explaining the difference between Patriot missiles and Scud missiles and me hoping that the Scud missiles wouldn't get us in Georgia Well enough at all These willy-nilly? I thought when she said we were at war with them that they were like across town or in South Carolina or something. I was like, oh my God. She's like, yeah, they shoot Scud missiles and we shoot Patriot missiles to knock those out of the air, but we don't always get them. And I'm like, oh God, are we going to get hit by a Scud missile? And no one ever like comforted

me through that. I went through several more years fearing the Iraqis. Yeah, several more years through the mid 90s. Fearing the Iraqis. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't even celebrate that Braves. Well, it's easy to look back and call it silly. But like, I remember my parents friends after 9-11 and maybe I don't remember my parents making a big to do but like just normal people in not strategically key locations around the US being like we need to be on Uber guard because they might blow up Omaha. And it's like my mom was like that. Probably not. That's how 9-11 felt.

Yeah. That's that's when I remember people talking about it. When 9-11 happened, my mom was putting water jugs in our basement and I was like, how old was I? I was just 20, 10, 11. 15. Like 14, 15 or something. Yeah, 15 maybe.

And I was just like, that's absurd. What are you doing? And I was like, what kind of attack will not, we can't get to the well anymore? Like, we have no electricity in your scenario. Are we living off the land? Like, why don't you have purification tablets for the crick? Like, we're gonna live off three gallons of water

for how long today? We have enough water just to like get more scared about our situation. It's an undying. If we're talking about like Alcataz coming to get us here in Lavonia, Georgia, I'm like, you think they're going to hit Lavonia elementary school? Really? Like, I don't think so. I don't think they've ever heard of us. They hit New York.

And they're going to go, yeah, all right, let's hit New York, then the Pentagon. And then let's hit the Lavonia elementary school in Georgia. These are the pillars of power. Like, like no mom, they're not coming for us. Even then I've like, the anthrax thing was a little scary cause it was like, what if they're just dumping bales of anthrax and like mixed mail and everybody gets a little and like, like, I don't want to lick a stamp now that I could see being afraid of if you're just Joe Schmoe, but okay.

It wasn't going to fly a 747 into You know your your car rental place or anything like that, you know I'm time traveling now. That wasn't 9-eleven. You were you were younger than me. You were like 30. I was 10 in Yeah, so sorry I'm sorry You know, I'm a. You know, I, I, I'm a nine 11 survivor. We're all survivors. We were in America at the time we survived. So yeah, we should get some sort of pension.

What do you, did you, I know you told me about people being afraid of attacks before, but the anthrax thing, were you ever worried about that personally? I saw the anthrax thing through a different lens because I just remember the mailman like stealing valor. At first, America just started sucking off every fucking firefighter on the planet. Like, oh, where do you work? You're in Austin.

Thank you for your service. You fireman, your first responders. Oh, my God, it's a good thing you made it through 9-11. You're in Austin. fuck, you do shit. Nothing happened there. But then the mailmen were like, first they came for the firemen. Now mailmen are on the front lines.

And I'm like, fuck you. This is not the same. This is not the same as running into a burning building, you're stealing ballot. Yeah, you're fibbing. What, you survived in Eastern Nebraska because the CIA filled one envelope that they caught with anthrax

to drum up public support. You know, firefighters from Texas did make the long journey to New York on 9-11 to provide assistance and aid and bring their canines. Yeah, I believe that. A lot of them got cancer because of the dust and they suffered. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But Woody doesn't think they contributed enough.

They didn't do fuckball. They didn't go to Texas. What Kyle said is a lie. It doesn't sound great. There's a memorial in Watauga, Texas for the survivors. Which is all of them. Not for the dead? That's fucked. They should have a memorial for the dead. That's fucked. They should have a memorial for the dead. For the firefighters. I'll give some and some gave all. All right. That's all I'm

saying. Wait, where is this? Boy, Kyle says here's a link. There's no link. There is no link. I sent them a link. They're ignoring the link. This is a picture of the guy burned out of his car. Yeah, this is a picture of a dead

dude at the highway of Tell or whatever. That's him. That's what 9-11 did car. This is a picture of a dead dude at the highway of tell or whatever. That's him. That's what nine 11 did to that Texas firefighter. That man's a goddamn hero. I was just a good old boy from Austin. Before he was freaking down in his prime by those from what Taga, Texas. That would be the best thing to do to be like a firefighter in Anchorage,

watching nine 11 and be like, leter in Anchorage watching 9-eleven and be like let me Adam Let me have You can't do anything, you know, they better not fucking hit Juno I'm gonna hit Juno, bro Yeah, 9-eleven never forgot won't ever forget. I think if gore had won that would have all gone different. I think that's that like if I had the time travel machine and I was trying to specifically fix the United States, I think Gore winning would do it. I think we'd be on a whole different path. I think Gore winning is all it's not a it's a very similar timeline but it's a very

dissimilar timeline in many ways too. How would you go back and do it? You know. I let George W Bush get into art school. He's not a bad painter. He's better than me. Everyone's better than me. Yeah. He really isn't, you know, he's not museum worthy, but we have looked before and W not too bad. Dogs. I don't even meet the room's walls very well. I heard, I sent it in the WhatsApp. It's just an audio clip and it's Trump at one of those press gaggles He's probably leaving Scotland or coming back from Scotland and and they asked him

Because like the Epstein thing has it's like an onion every day. He says a new thing like and it's like Why have you ever mentioned this before? And today he said his newest thing was that he broke off his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein because Jeffrey Epstein was poaching his employees, although he doesn't phrase it that way. And so the way I said it, you're like, oh, like I've heard of like Apple doing that to people and Google doing that to people, but he's insane. He's like, he's stealing people. He was stealing people. And it's like was and then they give like an Epstein victims name was like,

Carol victimstein, one of the people that Epstein stole. He's like, I don't know. And I shouldn't say, but he stole a lot of people and from the spa, the spa at Mar-a-Lago, he's stealing them from the spa. And yes, she was one of them. He almost had a Kanye moment where he like, he's like, I shouldn't say.

And then he's like, yeah, he stole her that. He immediately flipped. He's like, no, I shouldn't say and he's like yeah he stole her that he immediately flipped he's like no I can't I don't remember actually definitely yes yeah she worked there what I think I want to jump in uh what it leads to is the rest of like okay so now you're telling me a couple of things one you had underage girls working in your spa, Donald Trump. That's kinda not right. Two, this is at a time that you knew Epstein was like fucking young kids and had his island

and shit like that. And he took this underage girl who worked at your spa and made her his and then he trafficked her. Like this whole question of what did Donald Trump know and when did he know it is getting answered by Donald Trump. Well, here's the question though. Like, he says that Jeffrey Epstein stole this employee of his. And the way I phrased initially was I compared it to Apple or Google poaching employees, but he doesn't have a competing resort, this Jeffrey Epstein.

He's a hedge fund manager. So I wish someone had a follow-up competing resort this Jeffrey Epstein. He's a hedge fund manager. So I wish someone had a follow-up question with, did Jeffrey Epstein had a spa that he was going to hire her at? And what was she going to be doing for him, to the best of your knowledge? She had a mind for finance. It had nothing to do with the Blackmail Island. She can read the Asian markets like nobody's business. Mm-hmm. That's his nickname for his penis, the Asian markets. What's he doing?

I couldn't believe he admitted all that and said all that. And that that's now part of the story is that Donald Trump was aware that Epstein, now we know, or I say now we know, I never am as concrete on believing the depositions of women, you know, the hashtag believe all women. I went the other way on that one. I just believe them and I don't believe anybody, women or men. So if someone just says, X person did why evil thing, there's enough people who dislike Donald Trump that some of them will lie. Clearly, there's a pattern of activities though, and I'm not naive enough to believe that everybody just keeps lying on innocent Donald. They just keep lying on him. It's a conspiracy. I think there probably is a conspiracy to lie on Donald, but that aside, there's a lot

of women who were, I mean, he was found guilty, you know, of assaulting that lady. We know the conspiracy of Epstein Island is true. Like we know it was a black male ring. And so like, we know that and they know that and they, all of them know that we know that they know. Like, and we're still not getting any answers. And we're getting closer to the answers. So we, every day the onion is peeled a little more. I'm not saying there's going to be a, a damn breaking scenario where it all comes out, but we're getting closer to something. And I,

a lot of people are speculating that they're going to pardon Ghislaine. And that would be such a bad look if he pardons Ghislaine. That was, I heard it was his lawyer that they sent to like go question her and get all those names from her. They said that she gave his lawyer a hundred new names or something or a hundred names of people who were involved. And it's like, all right, that's the list. Don't tell me there's not a list.

You just made one. You just made one. Show me, show me the names. And no matter what list they release, like now it's been so muddied. It's like, okay, so now what are the chances that someone put a political enemy on there that maybe isn't implicated in this?

Like, and how do we even know the real evidence? Because all those hard drives, do you remember the pictures from the raid at Epstein Island and there were pictures through the windows of drones where it showed? Computer setups and things and then it showed it again a week later and they're like it was empty and everything was fucking gone That's it. It was so crazy. She's you would have put that side Before your congressional investigation in the assets of multimillionaire A four-year congressional investigation in the assets of multimillionaire, financier, and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has been stalled indefinitely by the Trump administration, which has revoked access to sensitive documents that have been granted under Joe Biden.

Nice. Don't want to be looking at that money trail. He's making sure they can't look into the money trail actively covering up his rapes he's actively a activity covering up a lot of shady shit and I Wanted this is just another one of those fucking things that like we deserve to know because we're controlled by people who are doing reprehensible things and we fund it and we're You know, you want to know why our elected officials sometimes say things that are so wildly unpopular with the public. It's like, cause they don't serve,

they don't serve us. They serve people with dirt on them. This whole system is pretty- I think we'll get more. I think we'll get more every day. Like I said, every day they peeled the onion a little more. The press isn't letting it go. And the public isn't letting it go. More importantly, I saw some shots from his Scotland visit, and man, even in Scotland, they got the Trumps of Fedot signs and pictures of him with Epstein everywhere. And every day, literally on Reddit, I see a new photo that I never,

I don't have a photographic memory, but I do have a good memory for photographs. And if I've seen one before, I'm like, oh yeah, I've seen that image before. I'm seeing new pictures of him with Epstein and Gisela, and the Clintons too. And I think the Clinton stuff is being thrown by some conservatives to muddy the water,

but it's not working because everybody on the left is like, yeah, that was 30 fucking five years ago when we cared about Clinton. Let it burn. And she was 22. She was 22 years old. That picture of Clinton with the back massage. That woman was 22 years old. Now she of Clinton with the back massage. That woman was 22 years old.

Now she was one of Epstein's victims, but she's testified that Bill Clinton didn't do it. I'm not saying Clinton's innocent. He might have done something, but she's on the record under oath saying Bill Clinton did nothing to her. He was a perfect gentleman. And also she was 22.

And we also know that like, it's almost a red herring thing where they're like, it's all pedophile stuff. It's none of it was like trafficked of age girls, because I've seen people say that like that thing you linked Kyle to us this afternoon. People being like, oh, that lady who worked at the spa, she was of age. And it's like, oh, okay. Well, thank goodness people of age don't get sex trafficked. I guess the, I guess case closed. I guess case closed, you know, I guess the I guess he's closed. I guess case closed, you know I guess she just went to work on a spa and get on a fucking island. Yeah, I bet It's so fishy the whole thing looks so bad and they it's one of the worst cover-ups ever because they're just leaking water from From so many holes. It's it you look at their version of things and it just it literally doesn't hold water

Well, not literally but it figuratively doesn't hold water. I think this story will go away. Not completely, but I forget who I was listening to. Maybe some podcaster. And they're like, you know, do you think it'll work? Mike Johnson shuts down. They're gone for six weeks. They don't have to deal with it.

Will they come back to the same news story? And he said, what were we talking about 6 weeks ago and I'm like 6 weeks. Jesus. What is that like? Is that California fires? 18 scandals ago? Like I don't remember 6 weeks ago. Now, this one has been hanging on for a good 3 weeks. This is years old if you think about it though. This is the the exiting thing. That's why I think it's going to keep going is because this isn't one of his little flare ups.

He didn't call somebody Pocahontas. And it's not funny. That's the other thing. You can't spin pedophilia into a funny thing. You can't just be like, only the cute children. You can't do that anymore. That doesn't work. You can't do a just Rosie kind of moment.

It's children's. And the worst part about it is the cash Patel and the deputy FBI guy those guys were on every podcast imaginable during the big push toward the end. We're gonna get names. People are gonna pay. We don't care who it is and they seem so passionate about it and then Cash goes on Joe Rogan he's just like there's no list. There's nothing to see. Nothing. there's just nothing. And he had of the FBI. Yeah. Yeah. That was above his pay grade. And that struck me particularly.

You're the head of the FBI, but the Epstein stuff is above your pay grade. No. What you mean to say is Donald Trump's dick is in your mouth and you won't look into him. What he probably means to say is a lot of things, one of which is as the head of the FBI, the eye, I am a little, I am a little bitch boy for massage and they tell me what to do and they tell me what, how high to jump. And I say, yes, sir.

And they tell me when to go to the, I won't allow your anti-Semitism to cloud this discussion. I think it's a good time to wrap right there with Taylor's late name. They tell me when to go to the, yeah. I won't allow your anti-Semitism to cloud this discussion. I won't allow it. I think it's a good time to wrap right there with Taylor's late name. All right. That's true. We gotta get to hang out. Check out the hangout everyone.

PKS21. Israel's strong.