Painkiller Already - PKN 576

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

P.K. and 576. So, Kyle, the Balders Date dealer, finally got you to take your first hit. Yeah, yeah, we played for like five hours as soon as the hangout was done. Okay. Nine hours on our ass, by the way.

My ass was sore by the time we were done it. Not in a good way. I, like, had to walk around for a while after we finished playing. I'm like, that was too much. Yeah. When you're on a toilet too long, and you're like, I should probably get off

soon wrap this up, I'm going to get a blood clot. I was going to play until you said stop because I wanted you to get your fill. It's a lot to keep track of. One of the streamers I watch, he's like fitness-oriented. I know he likes Brazilian jiu-jitsu a lot. He sits on a yoga ball the whole time. I wonder if it's better.

Like, if you're going to be worse, five hours plus a day, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, no, I do. You do. Have you ever tried it? This orthopedic chair I'm sitting in that holds me like a, like a, like a baby, and so I don't have to use any of the muscles in my back to sit upright. This has got to be the way to go.

He's over there doing some sort of strength exorcist. No, we're not building course string. I want to relax. It's just to go a handful of people had, they either worked on yoga balls or they'd have the stand-up desks. Neither of those appealed to me. I was just a regular office worker. I didn't like the standing desk when I tried it. And it was just because, uh, made you stand the whole time.

The place I was at was like, if you wanted a standing desk, like a desktoper thing on your normal desk, they would just give it to you. And I'm like, all right, well, even when you, the way that it looked is like, even if you were sitting at it, it now like two tiered your desk. So you could like put one of your screens up here and then your laptop there and your other screen over there. And I was like, all right, worst case scenarios, I get a two tiered desk. And I spent maybe like a month trying to convince myself like, no, like the standing desk thing isn't too bad. But I was like catching myself just like not leaning. and like doing work sometimes it would just be like I'm gonna just be rocking on my toes and my heels

and like bouncing back and forth on like the pat like the every standing desk came with like a thick pad that you stood on and I was like this is like I'm not as focused on finishing my task because I'm like annoyed I'm standing which isn't ideal. And Cisco if you wanted a standing desk and I do want to get back to Balders Gate I'm sorry the topic morning

but you'd have the ergonomics team come in and like do an evaluation and all you had to say is like my back hurts and they'll do something for you and uh i was like man if i try a standing desk and then like three and a half days later be like never mind i'm going to look like such an asshole not just to my peers but also the ergonomics team is going to be like who is this fuck shit we we they have to like disassemble and like reassemble everything higher it's not a simple thing you're like frantically standing it back up every time they come by to make them think it wasn't a waste of money and something else I like I would forget it was a standing desk and use it as a seated desk for like a month and then out of nowhere be like you know what let's say it's a standing kind of day to day I feel a little you know a little lazy I should wake myself up and like this wasn't a motorized one you had to like grab a thing like a little lever and then lift it up kind of the same mechanism used to slide a car with the monitor like was it a lot to lift uh it wasn't too bad to lift but it was I never

succeeded in doing it like the commercials where it was just a quick slide up every single time after a few weeks of being in seated mode I lift it like eight nine inches and every single wire attached to everything is like yanking and my laptop almost falls off and it's like this looks like a fucking idiot if I have to go to the Winston Churchill quote is never stand when you can sit never sit down when you can lie down all right it's about economy of effort yeah yeah didn't you finish that with like never drink water when brandies available. Stephen Hawkin had the same

philosophy. Churchill day is like a drinking it's like a drinking challenge. People try to duplicate Churchill's alcohol consumption in a single day because he mixed it up. He wasn't like, yeah, I have 38 beers a day. It's kind of a problem.

He was like, one bottle of champagne, half a bottle of brandy, 14 glasses of wine, three mugs of beer. And it was like this ridiculous concoction throughout the day. After all of that, he's like, And then for lunch, a sandwich is like, this goes all day, doesn't it? 18 cigars, yeah, it's wild that he survived that war, and FDR didn't.

That he had any energy at all to even give speeches or talk. I just explained to you how. It's the economy of exertion, I think, is literally what he referred to it as. Like, like, never stand when you can sit. Never sit when you could lie down. I was so naive, I'm like, but he would have been hung over every day. No, because he's drinking a whole bottle of shampoo. pain in the morning and then

just carrying that out. Oh yeah. For like all of the 30s and 40s. He was an open door shitter as well. Balder's Gate. Yes. How was your introduction? Had you played it at all before this? I had played it. It would maybe like a total of two hours with Kyle before and it was when did it come out two and a half years ago? Probably around there.

Year and a half I would guess. Year and a half? Well it was all the way back at the very beginning and it didn't work out because I wasn't as sucked in as Kyle by a long shot and Kyle was new to the game because it was new and so he wasn't going to like stop like he was going to be grind I wasn't sucked in the first time either like I played that first time with you and then I probably didn't play for like a week or two and then I played a little more and like it has to get into your system a little

you have to build an addiction the movement is weird like it's the clicking around and the changing the camera and everything it's just different from other games I've played and so I did find myself at times like not paying enough attention to the mini map and Kyle's like I'm over here by the great oak door and I'm like oh I'm in a cave brother

I think I'm like where you were two minutes ago so I think if you watch I think if you just watch me move a little and see like how I do it because I'm almost third person mode I'm so zoomed in and I'm flicking my camera and preemptively clicking far into the like distance and stuff the movement is odd it takes a minute to get used to

there's a mod that lets you play it in third person mode that we could you know you can just download it and play in third person mode I'll get used to this there's even WASD movement so that you can play it like Skyrim or something there's lots of great mod support yeah it's a fun game overall though

like Kyle helped me pick the class I wanted to be a pure paladin swordsman kind of guy running in and snacking things that's a religious night right a paladin Yes, yeah. It feels like everybody else in the team is going to be morally ambivalent, if not outright, bad. And so we need someone to balance the scales.

We are a good team. We are definitely, I'm the voice of the party. I'm the one that does the dialogue options most of the time. I'm thinking the good options. We're not doing evil things. If you go evil, like full evil, the game's not as fun. It really isn't. Like, you want to be the hero. Well, Scum had that slave running around naked, no armor. well that's that's shadow heart she's just in our party he just chose not to dress her yeah she's fine with it she doesn't mind he he says i took i actually took custody of her and you put i saw the later fights i'm like oh kyle prioritizing a little bit of ac a little bit of armor class here so she doesn't die because i imagine when she dies it's probably an ordeal

or you have to go waste a lot of time back at camp no big deal at all like when you go we've got there's like different levels of dead it's like a princess bride ah he's only mostly dead like you could there's there's various ways of bringing people back and like but it doesn't cost anything or take more than like 120 seconds or something like that like if she fell off a cliff into eternity we'd get her back in like two minutes it's not a big deal and like uh playing with kyle's good because he's played through so many times that he knows the little drops and things and so like right off the beginning you're killing the mind flayer kind of squid mouth guy likes to control you and kyle's like we got to kill this guy or not kill him because if we try and kill him

him he's going to kill all of us because we all had like nine hit points and he had 155 just some like he quadrupled up our whole team but there was some trick to get him to just drop his cool ass flaming sword I cast a magic spell on him called command and you can you have a depending on your level and its level you have various odds of it working but I can command him to drop his weapon and 55% of the time he will and so I make him drop his magical giant flaming sword then I just scoop it up off the ground to run away. I'm back. I had to do a small amount of research and I saw Shadow Heart

in a naked lesbian sex scene. What were you saying? Yeah, Shadow Heart is so fucking... There's a couple of hotties in the game that I like to play as. Shadow Hart's my number one. She's my bay. I think she should stay in the party. Oh, she's not going anywhere. I already made her a death cleric.

She's going dark mode. It's real fun to play with her. You can play with multiple characters if you want. You can take control of her. Her and Minthara, I think, are the hottest characters. Is Minthara blonde? Mnthara is a gray-skinned, like, underground elf woman who's evil. So she's like a made-up race of person. I think she's drow.

Most of a mark sworn drow maybe. Yeah, she's awesome. Lots of hot characters in the game, though. Is Saloon a person? Saloon is a goddess that is sharp that is worshipped. Okay. Sharr and Saloon, I think. She was Shadowheart's sex partner in the scene I saw.

Oh. It's a good scene. Fair. I'm not sure what that scene would have been. But in any case, yeah, there's lots of hot characters. Give you a link. I was getting a little aggravated at first playing was I was so much slower than Kyle and Skum to every single available thing you can loot that like I almost became convinced like what am I even doing running around opening chest? because like I'll be right behind Scum's character

and I'll like have already clicked to the or whatever that we slain he's laying there and I like I see his inventory pop up and before I can click select all all in fucking Scum's backpack and then scum ready off to the races and I'm like maybe I can beat him to that chest too ahead of where he's going so I can get You guys don't like cooperate and such we all share everything so there's really no reason it just who picked it up it's just that that made it easier and I was like oh so it doesn't really matter

Because that sword that Kyle got for us, Kyle was like, this really doesn't make sense the direction I'm taking with my character. But for a paladin, it does make sense for the first while. So you, you know, he transferred it to me. That's a redo. In my game, the weapons have passives. So not only does it do this kind of thing, but anyone who has this in their inventory gets this benefit, I'd be like, less likely to be targeted. No, I want the smoke.

Give this to the archer, right? He's the one I don't, I want to be pinging from the distance. Yeah, I know all the items in the game. I've collected all the items in the game so I know where they all are and how to get them and you build synergies around different play styles

and different characters I'm mostly just first time so I wanted to give them the best weapon in the game so why not and it does fit your character just fine, you're a paladin and you can do great weapon fighting

and swing that thing around and you're doing like nutty damage right from the start like it's not balanced it's a broken weapon yeah it's a good time I look forward to playing some more I'm always down to play

if you don't get on soon I'll have to start a second play through to like, I literally will to like, yeah, yeah, to scratch my itch. I'll get on sometime this week and play. It is fun. I like it. My game's in a bit of a doldrum. Like

what it is. First the game came out and they let it age, I don't know how long, four weeks, something like that. And then without saying a word, they dropped the new boss or an enhanced version of an old boss. Everyone got so excited. The next week, same thing. Next week, same thing. Oh my gosh, this is great. And then the next

three weeks, they recycled the old ones. All right, shucks. And then we get four new bosses. Everyone's excited. It's cool. Now we're waiting for hard mode. But there's this two week period where there's nothing new. They're just recycling.

I fired up Escape from Tarkoff and got that going again. I'm doing very poorly. I don't even seem to know the map like I used to. This is customs. This is a map. Like, of all the maps, I had customs really, really dialed in. It's not that complicated, but even with the new additions and such to it, like, I really understood where bosses could be and such. And now, I'm like, I'm sorry?

Yeah, I can get you around, eh? I missed the first word. You're streaming this, right? I'm saying your chat can get you around. Oh, I'm not streaming. No, no, no. Oh, you're not streaming. I'll have to play some park off.

Oh, if you want. Dude, I have a friend. He's very good at shooters, what he would call mechanically sound. And this is like one of those elite CS. go guys and um but in tarcoff he's brand new and he's easy to get along with i'd love to have you in the in the lot oh so like my level of of like knowledge and expertise is weird because i've got an enormous amount of time but it's been like eight months now since i've touched it um when i played all that pvee i went through pv and did every quest in the game i have my character and

pv maxed out um i love the game it's just you know the cheaters can be a little annoying but when you're playing with friends i don't mind as much yeah i'd happily play love talk love tarcoff all right i'll uh i'll send an invitation next time we play and if you're available i got my foot pedals ready to go that game has had some ups and downs with you guys where i feel like you guys have at times been like i'm done with the silly this son of a bitch this isn't this isn't the game i fell in love with and then he's like oops changing it back or like whatever he's doing yeah yeah i'm in a bit of a situation ship with tarcoff i haven't liked some of their business stuff

I didn't like some of their business decisions. They didn't keep their word on some of the versions of the game that we paid a lot of money for. And that irked me from a principal's standpoint. But as far as the game goes, sometimes there's things that bother. Like, I don't love the movement sometimes. I don't love the audio sometimes. But it's still the same game. And everybody's dealing with the same shit.

So, you know, the gameplay stuff never really bothered me too much when they make it harder or easier or warp things around. last I heard they don't have flea market anymore. Is that right? I'm confused. So I haven't leveled up high enough to open flea market. I'm mostly just using the starting inventory and doing runs. But what's baffling me is what exactly can you put in your gamma now? Nothing. Almost nothing. I got on the other day and it's like, all right, ammo doesn't go in there? What am I doing? What goes in there?

I'll just put my grizzly. Meds don't go in there. Meds don't go. All the things you want to keep. the things that go into gamma don't go into gamma anymore it's that was a little annoying right off the bat but i'm pretty sure that there's no more flea market like next and you have to sell everything to traders now um and you cannot buy currency anymore so you can't buy dollars from um peacekeeper you can't buy euros from what's his name and so to get your uh your numbers of stuff bought you have to trade to them to get that that that currency

up and it's at at poor trade values because it's already it's already like un-economical to sell certain things to the trader sometimes it is sometimes it is but sometimes it's like whoa the trader gives me $10 but a person on the flea'll give me a hundred let's go to the flea this is worth my time so now you're always taking the discount and you have to take an even steeper discount because you have to go to peacekeeper and the euro selling guy I'm spaced on his name when you normally is it ragman I don't think it is but it could be it's it's been a minute I need I I get into see his picture. He's the European-looking guy

that's a little blonde, maybe. It's been too long since I don't have memorized. But I think they've made the game, in essence, a lot more hardcore. And it must have turned a lot of cheaters away from the game because it really does seem that it's almost impossible for them to run their scam anymore without, like, just maxing out an account

and then straight up selling that account or something like that. Because transferring items is kind of gone. Can you get people guns and stuff? I had thought about, I'm sure you can. I mean, guns make, I would think so, because guns get dropped in the game, but anything else, you know. I just want to, I have more spare time than everybody and the present company excluded. And I could see like grinding for some weapons during the day and then doing runs at night with my friend.

And if I can't like give them a kit, then that's holding us back. Oh yeah, I feel you. Yeah. Yeah, I'll hop on play whenever you want. Hell Divers released a shitload of stuff today, too. There's like tons of new enemies. Like, I logged, I didn't have anybody online to play. I've been playing with Larry a little bit, but nobody was online, so I just joined matches.

And the matches that you get called into are in the dire shape. It means somebody quit. And so I land, and there's a giant snake centipede that's as big as the thing from Dune. But it's like in the sky flying and wiggling, and it flicks me off. the planet. It's just everything is on fire. There's bat, there's flying shrieker monsters. Yeah. If you

land what sounds like late mission like that, are you in a really bad position or a good one? Like in my game, without having gone through all the journey to get there, your character wouldn't have good weapons. You wouldn't have power. It's a little bit like Nazi zombies in a way where

if you drop in right at a terrible point in the wave, you won't be able to stabilize. And by stabilize, I mean, call in your like energy shield backpack and your grenade launcher and it takes those things like five seconds to fall from the sky and then you get them on and once you have them on all right i can defend myself now now it takes four hits to kill me instead of two like i can do some shit but if you call that stuff in and you don't have seven seconds they're just all over you and it's like zombies like nazi zombie there's this huge wave of mixed enemies some of them are invisible some of them can

fly some of them they're really fast and tiny and they're all just flicking at you and they stagger you and so you can't get your gun back up to shoot and you're diving away and medding and diving away and medding and they're just punching you in the asshole and you turn around and look over your shoulder and there's a thousand of them and it's like that's no fun but if you land a little away from the team and you're able to like call your shit in and maybe call in an airstrike to help them out and like then it's no disadvantage at all it's just a matter of getting stabilized sometimes at the beginning of a round. Hell Divers has my imagination right now.

To the point that I went on YouTube and watched the tutorial. I'm like, and the guy's like, well done, soldier. Yeah, you remind me a little bit of a young me. He's like this legendary channel. It's just like a Chucky Cheese level recording.

You can hear the static. I saw that. Like he had to type in certain codes to do things. So I can't see the, I know on that. But, but, I was as I was watching the tutorial and the guy type like WASD or something to unlock a drop or whatever it was I was like oh this must be how Kyle uses his steam deck to like do macros do you use it for any other game I'm trying to see if I can get this to focus um no this is a $150 accessory for held I recalling there's got to be something you're really oh oh okay okay so I guess it's balder's gate that

It would just be slower than actually... Oh, no, no, no. Each of these buttons does like a six or seven button-press command that requires you to take your hand off the mouse and go to the up-down, left, right keys on your keyboard. So being able... But one of the bottom left is the one to call in a dead teammate and, like, bring them back.

Then to the right of that, that red thing is like a space laser. And to the right of that is a mech suit. To the right of that is a quasar laser. It's like a laser cannon that takes a minute to recharge. And then to the right of that is my energy backpack. There's a lot of clutter on there, but you don't use it all. But the fun part is, like, I'm using my, I'm over in the app now. Like, I can move these around, like, just really quickly and set your shit up.

It's a really good accessory. I've never had it, played a game that you could do something like that with. It adds something to the gameplay. It really does. I feel like a Power Ranger or something. In non-single player games, macro, are usually banned because I watched like a couple years ago this like professional age of empires player who was like coaching another guy and he made a video out of it and he was like

you know that's age of empire so like they're European and foreign and he's like the the pro coaching him is like this is crazy how quickly you've come up the ladder and the ranks you know I've never seen something like this like I just want to watch you play and kind of get the feel for like how you're doing this you know and then I'll instruct you as the game goes to help you get better. And then the guy he's talking to is some probably like Polish guy who's like, yes, so first thing I do is I do this with Lourbore and then like some more complicated things happen. And the pros like, well, wait, I didn't see you, I didn't see you click for all those commands. What happened? And the Polish guy's like, well, I have a, I don't know how

you say English. I hit button and it automate like 516. And I do that for many processes. and it makes it so I don't need as much APM to win. And the coach is like, oh, but you've, I must be understanding. You don't mean you're using image, you're using macros in online competitive play. And the guy's like, he's a macro, you hit the button and it does a lot of things. And he goes like, yes. And he's like, yes, then I've been using macros the entire time. And then he had to be like, oh, bro, well, now the entire chat is going to report to you.

This is like baseline RTS cheating. you can't do this and the guy's like embarrassed I just been shooting his ass off I have a stream deck too I bought a stream deck and then I made like 70 AI songs mostly praising my gaming ability for boss fights and it's just this epic like

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa and about how Woody Gamer Dang is the best gamer in the multiverse how we tell the god of death not today and shit like that and these like epic songs as I battle bosses. Your AI engine is probably like, you know, master, have you considered exploring new themes? I can make a song about anything. We got them from marble racing.

That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I will play any of those games. Hell Divers has just released a ton of content. I don't even know what's going on. There's a dragon that showed up and started breathing green fire on everybody and was really hard to kill. So it's a, it's a lot of different.

content it's fun and there's an endless list of weapons for that game like i don't know how many weapons there are like like there's the meta that probably makes up 25 weapons but then there's it seems like there's 150 weapons or something all sorts of like made up space shit it's this hell divers we're talking about that it's the attitude of that game that i like and the mechanics i don't know much about like why weapons would be good or even it's just the propaganda the like fascist government that you're supporting you are the bad bad guy, but they tell you, like, oh, this other planet hates you

because of your freedom. Be sure? They're bugs, though. Why would they hate our freedoms? They're bugs in another solar system. They're hoarding. They're 7-1-10. Wait, that's oil backwards. What? What? Whatever's good for humans is good. If you're human. That's how I feel. Although,

you know. Taking the bug side, gay, they're gross. I don't want to be on the side of the fucking crane It's very starship troopers There's comedy throughout it Like the voice lines Like the girl will throw a grenade

She's like Have a cup of liberty Close them all up Managed democracy Will spread across the universe It's after you Hell diver You're like fuck hell

It is up to me Yeah These guys hate you for your freedom Meanwhile you've been like Destroying their planet For 15 years now Yeah I showed up in a star destroyer I think I might be the bad guy.

We're covered in skulls. Look at the bugs, though. They're gross. They attack you. You're just buggy. We are in their nest. Yes. I am a buggist.

And I see any human taking the side of the bugs over their fellow human as a traitor to our managed democracy. The bugs are just one of the enemies. You can play against the Terminators are very hard. Like, I play against mostly bugs. Oh, well, there's no argument there. Those are robots. Are they robots or human? What is a terminator?

It's, it's, so they sort of, they're called, they're from a planet called Cybersstand. Um, and, uh, the, the true backstory that's, that's classified is that we went to cyberstand because they had cool metal there and we were mining there and we did something to our own people to mutate them so they could withstand the harsh environment of Cybersstand. And I guess they, they started, um, using augments, like mechanical augments and they've gone full over. So now they're, uh, they're, they're like human cyborg. people that we pretend are aliens and massacre.

But I think they translated a message from them one time. And it was like, we mean you no harm, coexistence, peace, love, these are the things we live by. And then you just hear that that was propaganda. One of the missions is destroying broadcast towers that are trying to tell the truth. Like you go blow up the CNN building and like, like, get rid of their towers so they can't get the truth out. so i don't know seems seems like you're helping secure whatever fucking robot resources they're hiding

it's it's good stuff i hear it's they've got good stuff yeah no i that the the the robots are very hard to play against because they shoot back and they've got like huge 80 80 walkers they just rip off every universe you can imagine that like there's tons of star wars stuff in there like the big walkers that with four legs and the 80 um the the the two-legged walkers and the 80s that's all in there and then just straight up the terminator from the terminator you don't pronounce it at it both ways works we've been through this before well everything's new to me

we've finished it again at length but yeah I'll play any of those games anytime you all want to I have a good time I don't think I'll ever jump back into helldivers it just didn't

the gameplay itself didn't suck me in and the because the gameplay didn't suck me in like I found myself like not paying attention to the lore very much because it was like all right well maybe if I just get past this speaking line it'll introduce a quest that's more fun but the like eight quests I did play were all the exact same it was probably because it was probably because it was early on or I guess not the exact same

but it was like hey we're going to do five different quests with five different objectives but all of them are on like an identical looking planet with identical looking craters and identical looking and buildings around and similar, if not exactly the same looking enemies. And it was like to my untrained eye. And that's what I'm saying. Maybe it was because it was so early.

There's cities now. Like you can play in the, you can play in big metropolitan cities. There's grassy, like beautiful worlds. There's jungle worlds where you feel like you're in Vietnam. There's, currently we're playing on planets. They're in the gloom. It's just a thick yellow green,

sulfurous fog. And so you can only see like 20 meters in front of you and the new gameplay is that we're going into caves now so it's lots of CQB and the main way that I deal with bugs is whenever I get overwhelmed I run away and get some distance and now I can blow you all up at once because you've kind of piled up together but when it's CQB you're just like walking backwards in through a cave trying to keep them off of you and like when everybody works together it's really cinematic like one guy's got a flame thrower the other guy's got a laser rifle the other guy's got a grenade launcher and your buddy's calling

an airstrike and when the airstrike comes in the pilots are talking shit it can be really fun. Is it still really popular? I remember it had a more popular than it's ever been. It had a re-peak for some reason. Xbox. Well that will do it. Yeah.

But adding it on Xbox and dropped on Xbox. Zach said maybe crossplay, I'm not sure. I think so. You think so too? Okay. Yeah, I've seen a lot of new people. I've been dropping them gear and mech suits and stuff when I see people under level 20. I'm a level 75 commander.

My friends and I are very excited for the hard run. Do you remember Night Rain dropped and I did this long rant about how the game was overly hard, how the company hates its players and it's bullshit and I was so disappointed. We are so good at this game now. The win is all but guaranteed. The new hardest boss ever dropped. Dark Libra, if you guys listening, might know the game.

On Reddit, people are like, I give up. I'll just never beat this boss. Another guy was like, gentlemen, it took 82 tries, but I finally beat Libra one. Beat him first try, Mike Kang, first try, and second try. And it was like, we have lost sometimes. But we're very strong at the game and we're waiting for hard mode to drop, which comes in about nine days. So I'm psyched for that.

Hell Divers has 10 difficulty levels. One is like boring, like nothing happens. And 10 is so overwhelming if you don't have a full team that it's... Not even fun. It's overwhelming. Like if everyone is not doing their job at clearing enemies out, the number of enemies on the screen gets incredibly large. And it's this ridiculous mixture of enemy types too. I don't know how many enemy types there are in that game, just per faction.

Like just amongst the bugs, there might be, I don't know, 15 or 20 different kinds of bugs that all do different stuff. Some of them are like tank bugs that you have to shoot with an anti-tank rifle like in the face to kill. And they're called chargers. They're just running around charging and knocking people on their asses so the little ones can get you. And the fly things are awful if you don't have a gun that can reach up and get them. It's a good time. I wish you were into that because that's a shooter. then you could build those WozD skills.

I don't like shooters very much. Like it's just, it's not the game type that draws me in at this point. Maybe, maybe I'll have a shooter renaissance. It's just I haven't really enjoyed it. Am I the only one that think shooters are the jocks of the gaming world? If that, if such a thing exists. Now, I'm a soul's player mostly right now, but I still look at the shooters and be like, well, you guys are the coolest, right?

I mean, they're the, they're the cool kids. They're the bros. school that we call the vidya they're the bros they have a little vocal fry they're like you're a turtle from finding Nemo for some reason the fighting the fighting games is like the weird like Asian kid table

like that that's for them oh yeah the fighting games yeah but it answer shooters are the coolest people in in gaming I well they make up the largest like swath of people I would think I don't I don't know just because of like call of duty very big also oh

Wait, what kind of game did you say? Moba, I barely understand it. It's where you have like three lanes, like League of Legends, I think Dota 2. I'm out of my depth here. There's probably some Moba expert. There's champion-centric games. But, yeah, there's champions.

And sort of the way it plays is you have picture a square with a diagonal line across the middle. So now there's sort of two legs, the edges of the square, to get to the other team's corner, work right across the middle. six players each of them occupied you know two on each lane the the round the long sides and right down the middle and you push and hopefully your team is pushing maybe one of the lanes breaks down they pull all the way to the back maybe somebody in the middle has to duck down and help and you're trying to sort of kill the main important thing in the other team's corner and that's a moba in a nutshell it gets so complicated and I'm not qualified to discuss it but what a APM going on too you do a little well you do a little well Well, you go back, you maybe buy some upgrades, but now you're off the line while you're maybe your teammates trying to hold it by himself, where you're getting a better gun or some other power up. Maybe your bullets heal you now.

I don't know. And yeah, I played a little bit of a Mova, but I'm not any kind of X-tactically, that sounds fun. But I've also watched League of Legends, like gameplay before, not a ton, like, but every time I've watched, I'm like, this is too much. There's too much like Like none of the There's so many little special rings And auras and explosions and things That it loses the fun of blowing someone up

If there's 15 other explosions occurring at the same time And I just don't understand the game It must be good everybody plays it Steam is making a shooter moba Which I think is something new Or it's not I just don't know about it And my friend is so good at shooters That his EO is

kind of higher than it should be. So he's playing with people who understand Mova's so deeply. They have like 25,000 hours of this kind of gameplay. Meanwhile, he's that guy, but from Counterstrike. So he's so good mechanically, the game ranks him higher than he is. I don't want to say he's not intelligent because he's super intelligent software guy, whatever. But in terms of intelligence, like Mova intelligence, he's like, I don't know if I'm making good decisions or not.

Should I have bought it off the line? Should I have done this? What order should I have upgraded my character? Like that kind of stuff. He doesn't have. What he has is mechanical excellence. So he's raided with people who are great in other ways. Yeah.

I like both types. I like the types of games we've been talking about exactly. Like Balders Gate, Tarkov, Helldivers, those three are very different games, but those are my favorite games. I like working together in Helldives. I really like that part. But Balder's Gate, I'm more about the storyline and the interactions and the weird stuff

you can do and the way that it lets you, I don't know, you throw some water on the ground, then you freeze the water and the guy slips and falls on it. Like if there's a fire there, that's a problem, it's like, we'll put it out. Oh, I can direct with that fire. You can do it with everything. Like, everything is an interaction. That is cool. I like that.

And there's an, I don't know, it's one of those numbers where it's, there's so many different character types. There's so many possible characters. It's probably millions of possible characters because you can mix and match so much. So there's a lot you can do there. And then with Tarkov, just that fucking grind and the hardcore just, I've, I've, I've ended a night of Tarkov feeling so bad about myself before. Like, it reminds me of when I was a kid and I would watch a horror movie that was a little too hard for me and I'd have to go watch land before time before I go to bed, like to cleanse my palate. Like I've had to cleanse my palate of Tarkov. It's gone so. bad before um and and rust is that too but i've fallen out of love with rust for whatever

reason whenever i go back i'm people are so mean in rust they're so mean you can spray paint on people's bases now and so everybody's base is just tagged up with swastikas in the n-word and it's why don't we all i mean war is hell war you haven't seen all those pictures of the blown up iraqi houses with that stuff sprayed on there that our soldiers did Get fucked. They should let you spray paint that on like the bug hives in whatever it is. Like, I mean, in the promotional material, they're planting the super earth flag, but they're doing it through the head of a bug.

And then like, like, give them a couple extra. They recreate the raising of the flag on Iwojima, but it's hell divers. And they're skewering a screaming bug while they do it. You know, it's good stuff. love that propaganda. It's very, Paul, it's, it's, it's coming from the Paul Veerhoeven take on super troopers, uh, and, and you, you also see that in Robocop, where it's just really like, dour look at the future and how awful capitalism can be when it goes rampant and, you know, Detroit City is being bought by a company and the,

they own the police department now, like, the, the advertisements on TV or lethal car, uh, theft, uh, preventing devices. The Zapper. And it, won't even run down your battery and the guy's laying on the ground smoking dead i saw a video of someone who had that in uh south africa on their car they had like installed like a flame throwers oh i saw that because like i guess so many people were running up trying to rob them or you know kill him and take his car that it was easier to just install flamethrowers than i don't know what are your other options in south africa are they they're not a gun country are they i think they are they are

well then that seems easier you could be wrong I don't know I honestly don't know I think of them as a gun-toating country but mostly because I think of the crime and the violence there right like how would they do so well

at violence if we disarm them I don't know I mean they mean I know they're a knife in machete country so maybe that's a big part of it they love a good tire fire they love burning tires which is just

how is just so rude it's like everyone must know and have their backyard barbecues ruined because I do not like you as a political decedent and then they just do it in public and then you get that nasty black smoke I googled it South Africa does have legal guns

but it's a lengthy process they have a significant problem of illegal weapons circulating and contributing to high levels of gun violence and crime yeah that's what happens I think as I'm processing it. It's like, yeah, it's probably not that hard to get across South Africa's border and

it's just porous and things pour in. I'm glad you didn't go on that parameder trip across Africa. They'd have taken you in the second country. They would have got you. You can't rape the willing. They wouldn't rape you. They'd have just taken you. They would have looked for gold in your head. He would be like Tony Stark in the cave, but he's doing the accounting for Al-Qaeda. I said, balance the books! I can't just make numbers up. Guys, I think Afghanistan has a home cave deduction. You're like Ben Affleck where you're asking the Taliban or the Boko Harang guy.

Like, you do have an office at home. And he's like, well, but I do not use it. I do not use it for work that often. And you're like, no, you don't understand Abu. You do use here. And do you use that Toyota Hilux for work? He's like, yes, I kill people this morning from. And then they'd be like one African guy like talking to leader.

He's like, I do not mean to bother you once again about the accountant. We have tied up in a cave. But distinctly, and I say this specifically, I recall you saying he was here to manage our books. And it appears he is building some sort of iron suit. With which to destroy us. That was the most unrealistic part about Tony Stark building a super suit. in a cave was that they let him get it done. Like a week into him

clearly building a mex suit. I'd have been like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That does not look like a bomb to me. The guy's like looking over the show is like, Mahmoud, you always do this. Your therapist says you are always looking for problems where they do not exist. Clearly making a mess.

That the age is progressing. Have you tried perhaps ripping a virgin? well then i am out of ideas that's all he had yeah yeah i'm so glad you didn't go to your africa flyboy trip you would have either returned as a god or not at all emotionally richer and one limb lighter emotionally richer

you know physically poorer do you remember the guy's like an acquaintance of mine anthony vella he crashed in his paramotor and got notably injured it was well he screamed wanting to be bawling in pain yeah yeah how's he doing could be better um his bones not healing uh and and so if you don't know bones are pretty dope at healing like even if they're misaligned like this you just get like this lump over both sides and then eventually the lump goes away and they heal and it's terrific but his bones for whatever reason are just not going back together. There's like a bunch of chips in there that they expected this. It starts off with this

like spongy sort of spider web and then it solidifies and becomes bone. And they had another surgery to correct that and he got something called compartment syndrome, which means that the blood would go in there but not drain until it got really puffy and pressurized. And they talked about amputating the arm, but they did a surgery that delayed that decision and now they're like still hoping to save the arm and cure him, but it's like it, I expected it to be a broken arm like any other broken arm, right? It's a routine thing. And it actually kind of is. Like if your kid fell on the jungle gym, you probably think he's going to keep the arm, right? But his is going bumpy. Oh, and now he's addicted to opiates. So that's a thing. Yeah, well, he had been addicted

to opiate. He made a video about it. That's how I know this. So I'm not like spilling his tea or anything. But he had, he served in Afghanistan and came out of that addicted to opiates. And he's kind of prone to it. But he had really tackled it and was just living an ideal life until this injury, at which point he really needs opiates to deal with the pain. And I guess, I guess to some people, they're really, really, great and it's hard to say no I'm not one of those guys I don't like them at all but but I

think I'm in the minority so he's just I feel for him it's not sucks he's not healing smoothly so it's just his arm was shattered in so many pieces that like the heel factor doesn't even like know where to be like it's just not even triggering basically yeah kind of yeah like maybe just above your elbow elbow like where your tricep is I think is the worst of it. And the rest of him, he had some other issues. I think his leg is other arm, et cetera. They're all in the past.

That's fine. It's just the one arm that's still getting better. Left arm or right? I think it's his right. Although I'm watching, you know how things can be mirro. You don't even know. Sure. It's my right.

It doesn't look like it to me. I know. I mentioned it. So, yeah, so I'm not confident which arm it is. Damn. Yeah. Well, that fucking sucks. Yeah, yeah.

That's a nightmare scenario. You know, I got to have my arms. You know, can't play Hell Divers for one arm. I mean, you can't, but you'd suck. You're always going to be that guy. I was like, oh, Jimmy joined. Can we, let's play on six difficulty. Yeah, move it down.

Don't say anything. Like, you know, I don't be. You'd have your little, you'd have your little thing on the floor. You'd be toe tapping the, the columns or whatever. He'd replaced his foot pedals with a piano down there. I got it between my ass cheeks. I'm just squeezing. You'd have like just, you'd be committed to trying, but you'd also assuage your worries by

like, you'd have like a noose ready to go in that same room. In the background. You're like, I swear, I die again. I'm done. That would be so upsetting to like, I'm already not great, but like I've got, I got no excuses right now. It's just, I'm just not that very good. But if I lose a hand, I could never even be average.

Like, that would be the worst. I can do any, I got any both. hands to go up to live man i i i could do without a foot we talked about that the other day like i could do without a foot someone asked like would you rather lose your dick or lose your leg and it's like leg leg like what are you talking about yeah he talking about take the leg i'll cut it off myself if i have to just i'll lay down some spurious whatever it takes yeah get those blade legs yeah you would have you it would have to be a below the knee loss for the blade leg to work right hopefully otherwise you're going to be kind of kind of peg leggy i saw they made pistorius get

out of his blade legs in court and walk on his nubbies and he was like i saw a photo of it the other day i don't know why they they did but um yeah he was pretty good with the nubbies he's lost his blade leg privileges if you ask me i bet they got some cheap feet on him in the in the in the joint he's still locked up why did he get out was she cheating no one knows i think he said the the story was like he's like i thought someone was breaking into my house and yeah but like why did you do it yeah but then you shot through your bathroom door a dozen times here hearing her like, it's me. It's like, dude, I don't, I don't buy.

Honey, where are you? They're amazing and impressions. Tach, talk, talk, dot, dot, dot. These and doppelgangers. Skinwalker. That's what he should have just went with that. I thought she was a skin walker. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Walker for sure. That might have played in a South African court. If he, like, goes to some, you know, some black African judge in a, in like a white colonial wig where he's like, you know, you don't understand, uh, judge. There was a, he was a skin walker, and positive he was here. And then judge is like, oh no, this is a shocking new reveal in this story.

Case dismissed. In other news, I request more security at my house tonight and investigate my wife, who is, I'm not doing this because she is a beach. I hope my court lands, or my case lands in my court. Yeah. A South African court, it's got to be crazy. I don't know. At first, I was like,

I don't know if ours are that much better. Like any other. But I bet they get crazy shit in there. I think, yeah, most courts are crazy. Yeah, well, you know that really nice judge. Seems to do a lot of traffic cases. They're old. They're old.

really old man. I've seen him. He died. Yeah. RIP. I saw him like, I saw that one video of him with like the 98-year-old man or whatever who's like, I was taking my son to the doctor. And like, if there's no reason, anytime like a 98-year-old man is like my son, like just the heuristic in my head is I expect like a child. But then you see and it's like, how old are your son? He's like, 83. And then like you can see the guy's like doing his little. his like spiel his like feel good spiel we're like as far as i can tell you're one of the greatest fathers ever and now you you should do that and meanwhile there's like 11 other people in traffic court like a son of a bitch like can we get this movie i'm listening to this guy have

we're in traffic conversations with every single boomer that happens into his court for youtube clips but either way r i p i saw in houston i think some 11 year old ding dong ditched a guy and dude shot him in the back and killed him did you see the ding-dong ditch video? Apparently it's not like ding-dong dishing the way like I did, which is like you ring a doorbell and then run away. I saw them, they were trying to kick the door down. That's a different thing.

Oh, okay. That was the way it was reported, or the one I saw. That's unfortunate because there's a, the 11-year-old just rang the doorbell and ran away, but there's this other thing where people come in a group and pretend like they're breaking into your house, basically. they'd like try to kick your door in. There was three teenagers who tried to kick in a guy's door,

I think in Georgia, and there's video of this one too, and he opens fucking fire. They all have guns, by the way, and they shoot first, and he kills all three of them. That's the story I saw. Yeah, and their family is like,

he didn't have to do it, do him like that, he'd have to do my baby like that. By the way, the shooter's black, and all of the victims are black, so worked out for us. Killed them all. But they had to do it. guns and they were shooting at him first trying to break into his home. Yeah. Yeah, that's not that that was

the story I saw where they were like, these ding-dong ditches were doing a prank where you lie after failing to break into a house and say, I was only joking. And it's like, no, no, you don't get to like break windows and kick someone's door down and be like, it's a fucking prank. To be fair, though, that is the prank. Because I've seen the video, like three guys run up and they just hit the door as hard as they can and then run away into the night like that's also a prank and these are three separate things that are going on at the same time it's not it's not a prank i know it's well it's it's not a prank that i would respond well to but i also probably wouldn't fire wildly into the night if someone rang my doorbell but you wouldn't sure well not wildly he hit him right in the back

i hear you see he's probably well was it a good shot or was the guy's 11 they're small target too no the three guys who were kicking it down oh they were they were like late teams i if i remember correctly like 18 17 18 19 i was saying i mean his marksmanship probably wasn't you know he was letting them have it though he fired a lot of shots they were there was from that distance where like when you get your uh concealed carry permit where they're like all right to pass your test you have to hit this target like nine out of nine times and then you walk up and it's like i'm in favor of you know heaven you know what what does this pretend we're doing here like i would have to make a concerted effort to miss this at this range it's so

close. Like, I'm taking away a feel like, feels like 10% of the distance is gone by me reaching my arm out. Yeah. It seems super close. I could have definitely hit that bull's eye by throwing the bullets and I'm not that guy. But one of the guys in my concealed permit class did miss it. But he circled it and said that was the double action part of his revolver. Like it doesn't count. It's like it should count though. So your first shot. Well, yeah, the first one will miss, but that's the warning shot. You still get it, but there's going to be a restriction on the bottom that says, loser. You can still use it, but the officer is going to know that you missed the 20-foot-away lady.

I remember that I did pass by a concealed permit written exam. I got one question wrong, though. I remember what it was. It was like, does this concealed carry permit give you the right to hold a longer? knife than like three inches i was like seems like it should apparently that's a bad guess you get carry it long night no sir that's the tuesday class you have to pay for that but there's another guy who got like 11 out of 30 wrong and they did the same thing with him they did with me they just went all over and you're like oh so you had be here what would you put if

you were to try again what about a try there you go you missed you missed you missed you missed you See, you were clearly trying to circle A there. You shake your hand. Put in your other hand. That's not your dominant hand, is it? That was a problem. And taking payment at the end is fucked us on this. And we've got hundreds.

I wonder how many programs are like that. Like, I wonder if, like, parts of the Army are like that. You know what I mean? Like, the Army, absolutely. They want as many people getting in as possible. Like, I don't know. What if you're already in? Like, so certainly Buds isn't like that.

They brag about the failure rate. Yeah, they torture those guys. Yeah. That's a lot higher tier, though. Yeah. Like the questions we were doing on the concealed carry permit thing were like laughably easy, where it's like an officer pulls you over and you have your concealed carry permit in the glove box. What do you do?

A, inform him that you have a gun. B, take the gun and get out of the car. And it's like, no, well, it's clearly not take the gun and get out of the car. It's like, see, fire wildly to alert others. And it's like, there's only one that makes sense for any of them. There's no, like, it's hard to believe that these were questions. It was the same questions I got, if you guys remember the driving permit when you were 15, that test, where like some of the questions would be like, what is the minimum appropriate amount to, amount to follow behind a semi truck? And it's like, is it two centimeters, two inches, one foot, or 31 feet?

and it's like, oh, I studied that. Like, they gave you a booklet to study, and it had all the answers in it. So all you do is just study, and you've got all the fucking answers. I remember in prison, I had my workbook over there in a box. I found it the other day,

where we had to take, I took this drug program, because I think my lawyer had mentioned it might be a good idea. Or maybe they mentioned it might be a good idea in prison, and I didn't know if it applied to me, but I didn't have a lot going on. So I just went to the drug class.

But they would literally be like, the answer to number four is right here in paragraph three and then he would read it out loud and he'd like tell you to he's like all right highlight this that's what it was he made

we went through the book and read highlight that first sentence okay flip the page like the second sent like we went through and you hide and I was like wait a minute

we're highlighting the fucking answers to the test and people were failing that test people were like there were people in that room that couldn't read good and we were all adults this ain't school no more

like I'm probably the youngest guy in there. Like, like, everybody in there's 40 to 50, like, career drug dealers. One of the questions was, like, what, how did being on the street affect, like, relationships in your life? And I'm like, there's no option for I wasn't on the street. I just have to, you know, it's just a given that we're all fucking heavy-duty drug dealers in there. And it's just like, hell, it made things not good, I guess. What the fuck? A lot of people swip left when they had, realized I had no address. I mean, I was pretty charming, but I couldn't get them back into my tent very often.

Yeah, I'll play some tarcoff. I got a, I got my foot, like I said, I got my foot pedals ready to go. I haven't, I haven't played any, so I'll be a level zero. He says, I'm down as long as he knows I'm new and bad. I said he's in. I told him you were amazing. I'm brave, brave Sir Robin when things go bad. I don't know if you know, but they made insurance really expensive, so it's not a good value anymore.

If you don't know, Tarkoff, you pay 10% of the value of gear, and then there was a pretty good chance you'd get it back if you were killed. Maybe you were killed by the bots or maybe whoever killed you had so many good choices they deemed your gear not top tier. And, but now insurance is so expensive. You basically just don't buy it. And if you die, you lose it. You lose everything. Insurance was nice, especially when you're new and you're trying to get through the early levels. And even more, especially if you're doing that later into a white, because you'll have shitty gear, but you can only get so much gear.

There's limits to how much you can buy at a time. So once you get into that thing of every day when you log in, you've got all this stuff coming from insurance, it sort of keeps shit going. You don't have to buy gear again. higher level players won't take your penis helmet and your level three like like rig and your and your shitty backpack they'll just leave it on the ground and you could even build guns so that they're sort of unwieldy so they take up more slots than their worth because because you usually do a little math in your head like how much I want at least 10,000 rubles per square of space in my backpack and you know anything higher than that is is cherry on top but I'm not going to pick up

something that's 1,000 or 5,000 right and you have a 20,000 ruble gun that takes takes 12 slots and they'll just, I'm not carrying this big thing back. Yeah. You'll always get that back. They'll take off your scopes and fucking muzzle. They do, which is where the value is. You get your gun back and they've taken it apart. And then you're like, oh, that grip was half the value of this gun.

Yeah. With its scope. Yeah, people are shitty. And people have been maxed the fuck out of that game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just you guys enjoy all the videos.

videos I've watched of Tarkov look hellish and terrible. The game just is not my cup of tea. Dude, I admit. All the Souls experience I have has made me better at like losing in Tarkoff. It's like, oh, hey, let's run it. I don't know. It just to be good at a Souls game, you have to be like sort of emotionally stable, which was not my forte.

And I'm just doing much better at losing in Tarkoff than I ever did before. yeah I can I when I tried to fly the other day I went to as I'm like loading in I'm getting stressed yeah I can feel the stress hormones I'm like hope I don't lose the stuff I've only got like six kids in the moment I'm like what am I do I care why I don't care I don't know why I care but I do so so much I do so so much I don't want them to have my shit I don't want to die I don't want to lose my shit I don't want to fail I don't want to waste my time quote unquote and I don't want to feel rest of a video game. As I'm loading in, I'm feeling like anxiety and stress when I play Targaob. That's that's the feeling. I remember Larry dropped me a shitty Mosin Nagant. It wasn't even a long one. It was like a

salt off Mosin Nagant or something. But for some reason, that was my lucky Mosin. Everything I pointed at it died. I live stream. And chat was like, holy smokes, Woody has found his weapon. Everything that found itself at the end of my barrel dropped in one shot.

got and then finally I lost my gun and it was so heartbreaking like I mean I could make another one like it but it's not that one chat don't make a joke how am I going to tell Larry I get attached to gear or I don't know it you don't want to die in tarcough but that's all we've been doing we're like a 12% extraction rate right now it's not impressive I know my way around all the maps um pretty well, but not great. The two new maps, ground zero, and it's not good if I can't remember the name. You're not talking about streets.

Streets, yeah. Because I didn't play the wipe streets came out. I played the next wipe. It is so hard to learn that map when people are trying to kill you. I've died infinite number of times on streets. It's hard. Streets is a very hard map, especially if you don't have access to the other extracts. There's a key on streets where you can't put

it in your gamma you have to keep it in your inventory and it's worth like i don't know early on it might be a million roubles it's worth because you have to plan a camera in a locked room but inside that locked room it can spawn like 30 million worth of keys also on the floor uh but it's so stressful going in with that key in your pocket you're telling you guys if i go down you got to grab the key out of my pocket you got to grab the key out my pocket we can't all die you got somebody's got to get out with this key it's it's incredibly stressful because that that'll be your first million rubles You know, everything's on the line. I watched Anton play.

Do you remember Anton? He streamed a lot. Okay. I really like his vibe when he plays and he's good at the game. And there's voice chat in there now, something I still have never used. Anyway, he goes in there. He's playing streets and a team of like four are attacking him. And he has like a brand new friend.

He doesn't like to play with other people, but he'll go in game and be like, you know, chat someone up and they become teammates for that one run. And the teammate is like, oh, my God, there's like four of them. And Anton's like, yeah, you better stay inside, but it's okay. I'm really good at this game. And sure enough, then he comes back. He's like, it's all safe now. We got a lot of looting to do.

And he shared all the gear. He didn't give a damn about his kills. It's just another day at the office for him. I wish I was that guy. I can be cool, but I can't murder teams of four, you know, with confidence like that. like it's rare not yet nope he's like stay inside it's dangerous it's a it's a it's

mechanically challenging to do that even when you when you play eight hours a day for like six months you know what to do to do those things like you especially when I'm watching landmark for three or four of those hours just to like dial in I'm like oh I noticed did he he jumped through that window there

and then back through like I'm trying to like copy his strategies and because you get in the same positions multiple times like you're trying to go up the stairs and There's guys at the end of the hallway. That happens over and over and over. So you watch the best player in the world do it enough times. You're like, all right, I see how he's wiggling.

I see how he threw that grenade first and then listened. All right, I see how he jumped out the window when the grenade went off. And he's flanked them now. Like you can pick some stuff up. But still, mechanically, I can't. I definitely can't flick it people's fucking heads like they can. Landmark does stuff that it doesn't seem like it's the way you're supposed to do it. And it works.

It's like he'll throw a grenade and it takes like three seconds to go off. So when I throw a grenade, I run from that grenade. Landmarks like, I have three seconds of them panicking to make the most of this. And it's like, wait, you're supposed to panic when a grenade's coming. Why aren't you panicking? Why are you chasing your grenade? You're going to get hit. But he does it.

Yeah. He doesn't. Yeah, that's a great play with the M67 grenade, just like a five second fuse. So if they're like, they're tucked into windows down or down. into rooms down a hallway and they're like leaning out and shooting it down the hallway at you you throw that five second grenade they hear it hit the ground so they peel back into the room like this and you're right behind the grenade running and you're going to like you know just go and spray them down and get into their into their room before the five seconds is up because

they don't know if it's a three second grenade or one second grenade they don't know what it is they just heard a grenade again he runs towards the grenade and makes the most of it okay That was the Call of Duty move, and that was a really realistic game, too. Right. You chased down your triple frag. Well, I think it's dinner time, boys, and you guys have some Russian landscape to conquer. Very good. All right.

Kyle, see you at 7.30-ish. Sounds good. P.K.N.