Painkiller Already - PKN 578

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 PKN 578 It's up boys What's my cash Patel eyes Your cash Patel eyes He does He always looks shocked He's got his own AOC eyes He's cross-eyed
Starting point is 00:00:13 Have you seen You didn't notice that That's what I thought you'd lead with I've never thought of him They're just big and open He does have It's not 100% of the time But when I watch him talk
Starting point is 00:00:25 It's like he has a dominant eye And the other one is sort of working towards it I need to just find a clip of seeing it because I've only ever noticed the big wide like he looks spooked all the time which isn't what you want from someone who's the head of the FBI yeah that guy sucks
Starting point is 00:00:42 he does not seem good at his job he was um he was on the stand today I don't Cory Booker and him got into it I don't always succeed but I aspire to like look at these things neutrally. And I don't really know who was right in that. Corey Booker's like, I don't think, I think this is your last one. You're going to get fired soon. And Patel's like, I don't have to
Starting point is 00:01:06 talk to you. Your time is expired. And he's like, you don't tell me when my time's expired. The voters do. And I don't know. Your time is expired. This is my time. You have to give me my time. And they're screaming at each other. Yeah, it's very childish. It's ridiculous. Pretty gay. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of pretty gay, the shooter's texts came out. I should get them in front of me. But I guess he and his roommate were lovers.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Do they say they love each other in the text? Yeah, I thought that was old. That had been confirmed. It's just the text itself that had come out. And some of like, it just seems oddly written. Like the way it's so neatly sealed. I don't know. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But like some of the verbiage in there, I was seeing people point out that, like, this is like cop speak, like this here, there. Like, it's just, and then there's some stuff that's like clearly in line with his motivation saying, like, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated. Like, but then I don't know. It's just, it's so on the nose. Maybe I'm wrong or overthinking it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:17 And like you, I'm kind of viewing a lot of this stuff around this with the lens of skepticism. I mean, we all fell for the Wall Street Journal thing that said it had like pro-trans messaging on it. Oh, I didn't see any pro-trans messaging. But it was weird like, Owa-U-Wa-Bulge. Like, I think that's, we were talking about this the other day. That's so insider baseball, I've never seen it. Or maybe it's just so gay.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I think it's some sort of furry, gay, tranny, like porn, like internet speak, inside joke type thing. what I heard is that on the on the back of the bullet you know how on the very back of the casing it has like the caliber and like the manufacturer and sometimes stamped into it it was made by TRN is that an ammo manufacturer that you know you guys know no but I saw what you're talking about they showed a picture of a nine millimeter bullet in that in that article shot 30 out six anyway I know that you know I didn't mean that as a dig and uh anyway Wall Street Journal retracted that said that there was a trans stuff that they misinterpreted it. I guess someone on the inside told it to Stephen Crowder and then Stephen Crowder said it loudly and then Wall Street Journal re-reported it and
Starting point is 00:03:31 this is what happens in the first few hours of investigation. Sometimes you get shit wrong. But it was though. That is like a trans thing though. Yeah, the Ooo Nottie notices Bold's thing. Yeah. Okay. So I don't know. I try to get my facts right.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I don't always succeed. But it's my understanding that like the pro trans stuff wasn't the notices bulge. Maybe that was what they were referring to. I wouldn't be surprised of it. There's no way that was a manufacturer printed thing. Like the catch this fascist and all that stuff like I think it was pretty... The TRN. They misinterpreted that. That's the story I heard. Maybe on the show a picture. As their example, they showed a picture of a
Starting point is 00:04:12 nine millimeter bullet that said TRN on the on the back of the brass by the primer. But these bullets are engraved on the the long side of brass where you could write an actual message right the funny one if you can call it funny i was watching the press conference when they first read aloud what was on each bullet case in order and like the last one says if you read this you're gay um before that it's like up down uh right right right right right or whatever and it's like i'm like that is definitely a hell diver stratagem code when i pull up my stratagem code book and i'm like yeah that's the 500 kg bomb all right I don't have the codes memorized
Starting point is 00:04:51 because I use my stream deck but I knew immediately like ooh Yeah Super Earth just lost a defender This guy's motivations and the fact he did it Seems pretty clear Like based on what they're reporting
Starting point is 00:05:03 With the palm prints The fact he was writing The DNA, the anti-fascist He was admitting to it on Reddit On a Discord Yeah But these The text themselves
Starting point is 00:05:14 There's a couple things about it That I Just jump out at me is like this is so on the nose. But again, I could be wrong. Didn't even occur to me until later that like a lot of young people don't text like that. He's like full sentences. Was there punctuation on there?
Starting point is 00:05:32 That's how I text. Yeah. And that's like how much of that was added for editorialization or like to make it more clear. And how much of that was just the messages themselves. Like who I don't know. This is so new that like. I mean, I don't know that guy's writing style. I'm not going to say.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Sure. No opinions. whether that is likely to be his writing style or not, although it's clearly this guy. Like, his family has turned him in. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's on, one of his Discord friends is messaging, like, one of his Discord friends messaged him a picture of the shooter,
Starting point is 00:06:03 and he's like, yo, bro, where are you? And he's like, oh, man, my doppelgangers out there giving me a bad name, ha, ha. And isn't it weird? I have that exact same rifle. Oh, he's like shit posting. Well, it's on the run. on on discord and then and as soon as that initially came out discord was like there's no evidence of any of this and then like three days later they start investigating discord and it's like oh well seemingly there was why the what the fuck were you not being up front with discord are there an alarming number of weird groups of people riling each other up into a frenzy over shit do you think i think i think i heard them say that like discord was a place where like young people are brewing into craziness
Starting point is 00:06:49 and I'm like, I use Discord every day. Depends how you use it. But you use Discord. How many unread messages do you have on Discord right now? Stand by. Hold on. You haven't checked on your propaganda messages. See, you use Discord because you have discords that are like your discords, right?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Like you've got your Woody's Gamer tag one and Taylor has his and I have mine. We use the PCA one and it's like very curated group of people that have very moderated community. but there are tons of discords that are just devoted to like one thing like everybody would be gaming they all have that in common but they also all hate ex person or why political thing or
Starting point is 00:07:33 whatever they'll say all right we play video games in here but we're also all furries so that that ties into what I was like blaming discord in my opinion is like blaming AT&T yeah I didn't see anybody blaming it I saw
Starting point is 00:07:49 Cash mentioned Discord, and he was like, and in case you don't know, it's a gaming messenger system. Yeah. Most people use it the way we use it, which is like just the new version of team speak, but maybe that's even me being a boomer now, being like, does not, does everyone not just, the only time I use Discord is when we're doing hangouts or if like me and my buddies are playing a game that doesn't have speech, like you can't talk. Yeah, no, it's community, it's often communities devoted to one political or one goal type
Starting point is 00:08:23 thing and they're into young people who are into gaming. It's that. I use it like Taylor does. I also sometimes go to Discord servers looking for people to play with when my friends aren't available. There are Discord servers for people frustrated that the randoms
Starting point is 00:08:39 they find aren't talented enough. And in my head I'm like, well, if you're also frustrated your teammates suck, maybe you don't. or sometimes sometimes I play with them and it's like bro the call's coming from inside the house yeah I don't think discord as a service unless they're like unless it comes out they know about this and they run cover for it you know yeah which they should have been more serious about it the places that are like seem to be riling the speech up just like silos are places like
Starting point is 00:09:10 blue sky and reddit where it's just a froth of people and only one perspective perspective allowed and it just riles people up. That's how Twitter feels to me. Anyone can speak on Twitter. Anyone can speak on Reddit. I know you're about to say that it's heavily moderated and then anyone who says pro-Trump stuff gets like removed from this.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But I don't think so. I see it there all the time. There's conservative subredits. I'm not going to deny it's left leading, right? It seems like people from the left congregate there and then the more popular things come from the left. But fuck, the Donald dominated that thing. What happened to the Donald? In 16. They
Starting point is 00:09:45 got rid of it because it was botted and like kind of there's a huge list because they didn't like it there's a no it's because it was bought it like they did explain it there's a huge list of reddits that there's the there's the liberal feminine version that's allowed and then the men's version uh conservative slash conservative version that's disallowed and and has been banned yeah it'll be like the female dating strategy and then men and then male dating strategy i believe you one of those has been band the other one is a thriving community yeah and there's like a whole list of them where you can see like this this allowed this is not this is allowed this is not our politics banned the charlie kirk story they weren't letting it be posted that whole first day they were getting rid of it that's
Starting point is 00:10:30 why all the big threads were in entertainment or some other thing and like reddit is a total echo chamber like it's there is no no it's not there are hundreds i know it's because i see so much progressive and liberal stuff. I see hyperviral posts with tens of thousands of retweets, hundreds of thousands of likes every single day on my feed saying Charlie Kirk was a right wing Republican. These people are coping. He deserved it. He got what he had coming. Like it's all over. Like those people aren't getting excised from Twitter. Like there is a like half of this website is pretty liberal. Something that you can't say for for Reddit. Like they really purge people on Reddit. It's like it's built around certain stories going up, not being allowed on the front.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Other stories not being allowed on the front page. What people have been purged from Reddit? The entire The Donald, a huge amount of right-wing people. It's not a person. Okay, well, then all the individuals there on the Donald and other right-wing forums. Do you think those accounts got banned? I think that the place where they congregated were banned. And now, how are they?
Starting point is 00:11:38 The Donald was banned, but we know that was because it was bodied, manipulating the post. they say all of Reddit has tons of evidence do you have that they're lying about that they've been caught astroturfing shit to the front page before like who's been called astroturfing reddit moderators and admins by
Starting point is 00:11:55 curating content that is against their preferred narrative and boosting content that when did this happen I've never heard of this and I'm on Reddit daily that's why you haven't heard about it no because they're not going to this the past what it was and when it happened the past like eight 10 years
Starting point is 00:12:10 almost every single the Donald Republic. I feel like I'm looking for specifics and you're like, trust me, bro. The whole right is the most specific one is the largest conservative forum on Reddit was banned. And their excuse was it's because this is inorganic. It's bot driven. And you go, oh, okay, the people who want to censor this side and make no bones about the fact that they hate this speech and when it censored say that they were justified in censoring it. And it's like, okay, they weren't calling for violence. They weren't augmenting violence on the Donald. They were posting memes. that were to the chagrin of Reddit becoming organically popular.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And so they curated it. They called it and they throw the bot thing out there. It's fair to question it. I'm glad that you do. And it reminds me to question stuff too. But to like reach conclusions like, oh yeah. I mean, they said that the Donald was botted and but I just believe that they're lying with no evidence. And that's why they got rid of it because they actually have a political agenda with no evidence of your own.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like, well, that's fair to question you as well. Sure. Yeah. But I think the proof is in the pudding just by looking at what has been allowed on Reddit and what hasn't for much of the past decade. And this banhammer only goes in one direction. You have people frothing at the mouth on Reddit, yearning for more political violence. And those forums aren't getting axed. I'm not seeing in trouble.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And I'm on it a lot. I don't see them yearning for political violence. I do see them, to put it in a harsh way, like dancing on Charlie Kirk's grave. accurately quoting him is like the new meme just like accurately quoting charlie kirk is now hate speech and people do it on reddit all the time i'm glad you brought that like quoting thing is a huge story that i saw on reddit just this morning they're saying this uh charlie a black woman who worked for the washington post uh quoted a direct quote from charlie kirk where he said you know paraphrasing black women are too stupid and too retarded
Starting point is 00:14:10 and they're pushing that as though that's reality that's not the quote what he did he listed three people who happened to be black women and called them dumb but that quote versus what's being promulgated and not being called back on sites like Reddit and Blue Sky is that oh he was a hateful Nazi and he hated all black people yeah but I saw a quote on Reddit and it did show the context and some of those positions weren't even earned
Starting point is 00:14:36 like first lady like what the fuck first lady yeah I think Michelle Obama was one of the women that he called out I could find out I thought it was three current judges and politicians like like squad adjacent people the empathy thing is the most glaring one
Starting point is 00:14:53 because they're like Charlie Kirk said that empathy was a waste of time or whatever but if you look at his real quote he's like I don't believe in empathy because you can't feel what someone else is feeling the correct word is sympathy and so that cut off the end of his quote to make it seem like he didn't believe in empathy and then they run with like conservatives hate when you actually
Starting point is 00:15:12 quote charlie kirk and it's like i think they hate when you give half of his quote to build your narrative after he got murdered that's fair right you got to show the whole quote i'm trying to show the reddit thing we're talking about i'm scrolling looking for it because i saw it but i'm not finding it now yeah it's been an interesting week that one guy or maybe group of people whatever or putting that website together called charlie kirk murderers.com or whatever where they're planning to docks the 30,000 some odd people that they have quote evidence that they you know laughed at charlie kirk's death and then they were going to make it searchable by location occupation things like that so like and uh someone's been attacking that site so you
Starting point is 00:15:58 can't get to it now um but it seems like that sort of idea has full backing all the way to the white house you know jd vance fills in for Charlie Kirk this week on his podcast and sort of says we're going to find out who these people are we're going to get their names and then Pam Bondi say you know there's free speech and then there's hate
Starting point is 00:16:18 speech. We're going and we're going after these people. Yeah they're not using it to crack down on the left. Yeah I'm fine with that. Make sure all your social media posts are government approved. You're fine with it because be sure you're fine with it when the Democrats
Starting point is 00:16:34 are in power. They've been doing it for 10 years. And the difference is like aggression versus retaliation in my mind. And the left started this with aggression and banned people ruin their lives for making the OK sign for saying a slur or saying faggot or they post FBI crime stats and go, hey, guys, serendipitously, I stumbled upon data from the last century that shows it's actually not goose-stepping white Nazis who contribute the bulk of, uh, to violent crime. You know, they came after people with face paint at a chief's game and came after that guy's dad. They come after people, they misframe something about a guy standing for a photo op on the stairs and then a Native American walks up
Starting point is 00:17:17 banging a drum antagonistically and they say the exact opposite of what happened. They come after people on the right for nonsense for posts and jokes from 10 years ago. I remember that one. That kid had a shit eating grin that made it easy to misread the situation. Yeah. And the way they purposely like framed it. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know who they is to the media. The The media, the media, yeah. You think it was the media? Because to me, it was the social media, like the people passing it around, not necessarily ABC or CNN, but maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Didn't he win a lawsuit? Maybe I'm wrong. He may have won a lawsuit, but the initial thing was like people on CNN and ABC and whatnot saying like, this is hateful. This is because of Trump's America. And so on one side, you had people having their lives destroyed for either saying something. They refused to play the gender game. They refuse to affirm the trans thing.
Starting point is 00:18:03 They won't call a he or she or whatever. Life, you know, attacked. under assault for that. And so for 10 years, people on the right, and not even a significant plurality of the left, a much less a majority stepped up and said, this is wrong. We shouldn't ruin people's lives for this. Number one, because some of them are just obvious truths about crime or gender or whatever. And the other ones are just offensive. And what people are having their life destroyed for now is people in positions like teachers, nurses, EMTs, firefighters saying things like, ha ha, I'm glad he's dead. I'm glad he was killed. And then egg.
Starting point is 00:18:36 on future bloodshed. And so I see no equivocation between aggression and retaliation. If I come to your house or Kyle's house and I spend 10 years punching you in the face and you say, punching people in the face is wrong and then you get sick of it and you beat the tar out of me and I suddenly say punching people in the face is wrong. No, you're justified in fighting back against me until I on the ground go, I'm sorry for what I did. I was wrong. I understand now. we shouldn't do this. And so that's how I really see it. And that's how a lot of people on the right see it.
Starting point is 00:19:13 A lot of people in the right do see it like that. I don't think it's a good thing when the government starts, like, making lists of people who didn't like Charlie Kirk. That's free speech. You're allowed to say things that the government doesn't like. And I'm very. Donald Trump suing the New York Times for $15 billion and suing the Wall Street Journal for $10 million. like this feels like an attack on the free press
Starting point is 00:19:38 I mean I'm never going to they don't like the free press for sure I saw that did you see him uh interacting with that Australian reporter no oh man was it Trump oh I think I did but please it's like one of those morning gaggle things he's probably about to I think he's got a euro trip coming up
Starting point is 00:19:54 maybe UK something like that and he's outside talking to the group of reporters and clearly Australian reporter because of the accent fucking crocodile Dundee asked him a question that he didn't like he's like who you will it who are you with it's like the australian national news oh yeah i'm about to see your leader you know he's coming over soon i'm gonna tell him about you you're not doing your you're you're you're not doing the people of australian favors right now i'm gonna let you know right now you're you're
Starting point is 00:20:19 putting you're you're you're putting the people of australia in some hot water with me right now and the guy is like tried to follow up and he's like shut up you shut up or be quiet or like stop talking like something like that the kind of childishness is very gay They do not like free press, clearly. And I always say hate speech is free speech. You don't have to protect speech that everyone likes. You don't have to protect kumbaya. You have to protect hard facts and even just ignorance.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Like you're allowed to be stupid. You're allowed to be ignorant and wrong and awful. I don't, look, I've always sort of like weighed that back and forth because what the left will always say is, yeah, there's free speech. but not free from consequences. Yep, that's true. Okay, so, well, that, I guess, and to me, I guess, true that they say that, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:12 That sort of sounds like to me that, okay, you're free to do these things. It's not against the law, but don't be surprised if you get fired at work or ostracized at school or your spouse breaks up with you. That's what that sounds like to me, which I guess I don't love, but it's almost like burning the flag. I'm like, all right, that seems like their freedom to say they don't like you, say, that they don't want you to work here changing oil anymore if you're a bigot or a racist or just crazy but now it seems like with this charlie kirk thing they're on the other side of that
Starting point is 00:21:44 i don't like this people saying that stuff about charlie kirk i've had to stay off of red it because it's just if it's not direct and outright just laughing at him and laughing at his family it's sort of this dog whistle thing where it's like i think there was a school shooting that same day and there was this huge threat of like the worst thing that happened today was this and everyone, yes. Actually, this is the only bad thing that happened today. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Today, the only bad thing in the world that happened was this thing. Was it the school shooting? Yeah, yeah. And it's clear that what they're saying is that other thing wasn't bad at all. The other thing was something we like, this is what we should be focusing on. Look, I'm not saying ignore the school shooting.
Starting point is 00:22:27 You know, it was clearly an issue there that we've talked about. forever but um like what you're doing is dog whistling that that you think it's fun or funny that that charlie got shot that's how i see it too yeah it's definitely that kid though like like it's a hundred percent that kid they got his palm prance they got his DNA they got him on video they got him admitting to it on two different messenger services they got his family turning out of it's only two messenger services yeah that dude's guilty i um is there's going to be his rifle i bet whenever they get down to it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 His shoes, like, there's a picture of him on his social, like, Instagram, wearing those shoes and the same shoes that the shooter's wearing. There's him wearing the same sunglasses that the shooter's wearing. You know this his dad's rifle? I haven't heard whose rifle it was. In the text messages, he needed to find the rifle and return it so his dad wouldn't know he was the murder. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Oh, grandfathers. I'm sorry. Zach's crazy he left. Close off. You know, when he jumped off the roof, he left Palm Prince, too. Like, he put his hands on the roof to, like, let ease himself down. Yeah, he was not a very, well, yeah, he wasn't a very good assassin, I was going to say. I mean, he's not completely incompetent.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You know, he's no, he's no Oswald. At least Oswald made it to lunch and got to go to a movie afterwards. This guy seems to have really just left a trail of evidence. It's hard to get away with anything in our modern world, though, like, because they just start backing up cameras. and they're like, all right, well, we see them here in the park. Let's go to every camera that leads to the park and look at that footage. All right, here he is at Starbucks a mile away. Let's go to every camera that leads to Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And then they just keep reverse tracking the camera footage until they have you. I forget who was talking about it. I think it was a comedian. But they were like, why don't aren't people just like fly a drone and check the roofs now? Like, is that going to be the new standard for security? Like if you're Nick Fuentes, Charlie Kirk, AOC, like anyone who gets a lot of attention, you have to fly a drone over the roofs to look for snipers. There should be people on the roof anyway when there's that many people down below, I feel like they, like, even if it's not a political rally, like if there's an October fest and there's roofs overlooking it, let's get some guys up there. Like, you know, it was crazy when Trump didn't have like that, that, all those roofs covered.
Starting point is 00:24:55 You know, he had the one sniper team up there, but there was a water tower a couple hundred yards away. And then obviously the roof that that goober got on top of that actually shot at. I had always imagined that the Secret Service did something extensive and exhausted to make any area where the president is safe, right? I know that they often set up like curtains and stuff. If they're just going to walk from a limo to a restaurant, they don't provide long lines of sight to him. but um when you saw how the attempted murder was then this is the Pennsylvania one I'm talking about it's like chucks man that was weak security I know he was a candidate at the time but I thought he had he had secret service even as
Starting point is 00:25:40 an ex-president you'd think he would have better secret service than he did yeah and they don't and clearly that needs to step up but like some of the stuff like it was so horrible for the Trump assassination attempt that it's like clear like this almost seems like it was meant to be allowed because this is such an egregious like oversight like but moving forward like all these political public speakers who've got heat on them like they need to be stepping it up here's what it is like we grew up we grew up like the tv when i was growing up i should say i'm my age group um watching competency porn we're all like 29 i don't know what you're talking about yeah i was 29 year old we grew up
Starting point is 00:26:22 Competency porn on our TV. You had like the West Wing. Everybody in the West Wing is a fucking genius with a team of writers and they're just on the ball. Like everybody in the West Wing is a competent professional, the best of the best of the best. They've thought out every angle. No one really makes a mistake. Shows like House, ER, their competency porn. These are the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:26:52 they don't make mistakes. The drama is, it comes from a different place, not from mistakes that they make. But in reality, we're all just people. And nobody, there are no real adults, you know? It's so true. So what happened was he, you know, he did another one of his talking tours,
Starting point is 00:27:14 like he's done dozens and hundreds of before. And there's no like seal team six on the roofs of these universities making sure there's no bad people up there ever like if you want to climb on a roof you just can you just can like there's nobody to stop you and like the money it would cost like you would need people who charge a lot of money to do that kind of security up there on those roofs you'd need a lot of people to make that not happen seems like it's worth that still wouldn't stop it a guy in the crowd could have easily just pulled out a handgun and fired the shot the way we've seen tons of political assassinations or attended political assassinations happen like with a john
Starting point is 00:27:51 John Paul, Pope John Paul the second, I think. You know, that guy just pulls out a gun and shoots him. You ever see, who is it? He's the king of England now. What's his fucking name? Charles. Charles. You ever see Prince Charles attempted assassination?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Where the guy's just shooting at him. And Charles is so like pampered and out of the real world that he's like, my goodness. What is happening? It's like, there's a man shooting at you. He kind of looks like a badass in retrospect. but if you look close to it's like he's a guy this is a guy who has his pajamas
Starting point is 00:28:24 laid out for him every night like he genuinely doesn't I've heard stories about him like people that work for him they're like he called me into his office late at night and asked me to pick up a piece of paper that he had dropped and had fallen into the waistbasket
Starting point is 00:28:36 like he doesn't do things for himself someone else puts his toothpaste on his toothbrush Taylor says it's worth it it's so expensive now like I digress for a second I don't agree with
Starting point is 00:28:50 Charlie Kirk politically very much, but I did read that a 31-year-old had 39 million in revenue last year. And I'm very impressed. I did not have that much revenue when I was 31. I've never had it. But like, wowzers. He built quite the enterprise there. So maybe for him it was worth it. But I wonder, like, it's worth it one in a million times. That's a lot of expense for security. All you have to do He could have done what he did and stayed safe, but part of what he was doing was I'm coming into the lion's den and I'm, look, prove me wrong. It's what's printed all over his stuff, you know? It's like, look, you have these viewpoints. Let's talk about it. Because I think you're wrong. And I think if we dissect this without getting our feelings in the way, you'll think
Starting point is 00:29:39 you're wrong too. Or at least the crowd will boo you into realizing you're wrong. I think Crowder has changed my mind. Change my mind. Change my mind. Yeah, Kirk's stuff says prove me wrong. Oh, I'm sorry. I corrected me when I was wrong. I'm pretty sure it does. You see the, like the biggest jerk in all this, second only to the shooter, I guess, is the douchebag.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Like, after Charlie has been shot and carried away, he's stealing the hats off of the, like Charlie has a big pile of like Maga hats and like Turning Point USA hats. They're stealing the, he's stealing the merch. It was horrible optics. It's like, oh, no. There's one black guy here and he immediately is stealing all the hands. It wasn't a black guy.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yes, it is. Stephen. That's clearly being made up by you, Taylor. There's no way that there was a black guy there stealing hats. Yep. I bet if people go online and look right now for a guy who stole merch from Charlie Kirk's dead body, you won't find a black guy. Is it a black guy, Kyle?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Of course it was a black guy. He's like not even. enough to take five seconds to see what you were doing. It's like, dude, there's only three black people in Utah and and then you have to be part of why I wasn't sure it was a black guy. I was like, how could it be one of those
Starting point is 00:30:58 three? It's like, the guy's still bleeding on being carried to the car and you're like, oh, hats. It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Free hats, yo! What's wrong with you? Yeah, that shit's insane. Yeah, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I don't know The right So We all live in our own echo chambers And I keep getting these like montages of gravy seals on TikTok You know Like minded individuals meet at Harbor Freight on Saturday We're going to get together and they're not hard to spot
Starting point is 00:31:33 They've got tattoos and dyed hair Like they're just going to go start murdering anyone who looks leftist And I'm like you guys are pretty riled up And it's a problem that like the leadership on the right is doing it too, right? Jesse Waters calls for war. Of course, Alex Jones calls for war. But even Donald Trump and Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are like,
Starting point is 00:31:57 they're not calling for peace in the slightest. They're like, let's go to war. They were doing it before Charlie Kirk too. But I'm like, man, this, you guys are not trying to tone this down in the slightest. You're amending up this civil war machine. Mead gets thrown under the bus for voicing a very rational point that clearly he got from me
Starting point is 00:32:18 all right, it was only like three weeks ago when I was saying. It was a Kyle original. We got to euthanize these people. I see these videos on the streets of San Fran and Philly and these people got that trank lean where they're bent over like contortionist and they're out there and these billion
Starting point is 00:32:34 dollar districts that the streets are full of trash and human shit and piss and I watched the I mostly watch these guys in L.A. who ride electric bikes and they like tour the city oh okay and so they're not you know i've been down hollywood boulevard i've been by the chinese theater i've seen i've seen like the touristy parts of l.A but i haven't seen the sketchy shits but they'll they'll like drive off into a park and it's like oh my god this is in the middle of l.a this looks like shit
Starting point is 00:33:01 this looks like post-apocalyptic and he'll go down and a alley and he's like we're not going down there and then it's almost a selling point of his bicycle that it's that thing can zip out of danger so quick. I've been there. When I did that dancing competition, now that was a long time ago, I bet it's worse now. But the PA,
Starting point is 00:33:22 what the hell does PA stand for? Production assistant? No, production assistant. If people don't know, a PA is like the lowest level of, um, of helper on set.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And they kind of just do whatever the, the actors need, which was me in this case. So they would pick me up from the hotel and make sure that I got to the set on time and um we drove past skid row every day while i did that thing for a couple of weeks it was eye opening for me i was like why is there a concentration of thousands here i'm not at thousands like is this where they hand out food like i i can kind of get how if i was homeless i might work my way towards someplace with good weather like that i get but like
Starting point is 00:34:07 like south park these neighborhoods aren't unique to good weather like why are there why is this There must be handouts or something. There's social programs, like needle exchanges and stuff. There's lots of social programs for them. It's a good place to be. And the weather. It's got to be nice if it's, you know, if it's 60s at night and you're not freezing and burning up during the day. It seems like a good place to be if you're homeless.
Starting point is 00:34:30 My theory is, I'm totally making this up, that the police corral them into one area. Like maybe they get hassled if they leave this homeless containment zone, Skid Row. I know they did that for us. when we went to one of those conventions in L.A. that one time where I think the lady at the hotel told us like usually they're everywhere out here but they pushed them all back.
Starting point is 00:34:51 They've cleared this area of the homeless because all the tourists are coming in and all the money's coming in. Like it's more door. Yeah. Homeless thing's a big deal. It is. Yeah. And it's a lot of, it's sad but like what is a, like a lot of these people just need to be locked up until they either get it together or if they're unfortunately someone who is incapable of getting it
Starting point is 00:35:16 together you can't just let them you know do hard drugs on the street that that breeds crime and the the like response to it you see sometimes it's like what these people need is free clean drugs and it's like that doesn't seem right that seems like it's going to it seems like we are subsidizing I'm all for the needle exchanges and the and the clean drugs though like I think that's a good thing. I think the stats back it up to that when they have needle exchanges that are in, that are walking hand in hand with treatment programs where it's like the same place you go to get your aluminum foil to free base off of and your, your, your, your alcohol swabs and your free syringes, there's right there is the guy you talk to if you want to get out of
Starting point is 00:36:02 this life. And I think that's good. Like not only is that not, is that preventing the spread of all these intravenous diseases, which then the, the company, yeah, I misunderstood. Are you saying that's what they do now, or that's your idea? That's what they do now, but it's controversial, because, you know, if you're, some people like, well, you're just helping them get high. It's like, they were going to get high anyway. They were going to use a dirty needle. They were going to use a more risky form of this drug. But because this is available to them, they come here, and this guy doesn't get hepatitis. So in 10 years, he's not dying of liver disease in a clinic that's paid for by taxpayer money and also like some percentage of them
Starting point is 00:36:44 who are coming here are going to go to that next door over and be like hey i i got to get out of this and come with us we have a program to get you out of this i i think that's a good thing and it's a it's a net positive it just has to be now ideally there just wouldn't be any drugs there wouldn't be any drug addicts there wouldn't be any intravenous diseases but that's not a real world that's not that's not how things work. So if you can keep those drug users from getting hepatitis, HIV, whatever they're getting from sharing dirty needles and all those dirty practices, that's a good thing. And if you can, along the way, save a few of them because they're not going to get out of that
Starting point is 00:37:22 life until they're ready to, but at some point they're going to hit some sort of rock bottom and the idea of a treatment program is going to seem appealing to them. And it's great if, yeah, I know where to go. It's the same place they get my needles. Like, that's got to be a good thing. I like that. It's, I mean, I'm sold. You sold it to me.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I didn't know how it worked and that sounds terrific. My idea is adjacent to that. I'm like, it seems like if you're homeless, it's a business idea. It almost seems okay to invest in those people and change them from being a drain to, you know, someone who pulls the train. Like it's not going to work 100% of the time.
Starting point is 00:38:01 It might not even work 50% of the time. but right now they're all going to be drains darn near 100% of the time so if we could get some of them off the streets and into a job off the streets you know I don't know what they need to be can they be cooks can they be mechanics can they be whatever
Starting point is 00:38:18 like they can be anything because the problem a lot of them aren't starting with zero it's people whose lives have have devolved into this they didn't start like this a lot of them have skills and education it's mental illness it's depression and it's
Starting point is 00:38:33 circumstance. And if you can get to that root cause, I think a lot of them are redeemable. But they're stuck right now in a really shitty cycle. I can't imagine what those drugs are like. I know weed chills me the fuck out. And the times that I've taken harder drugs, like
Starting point is 00:38:49 when I prescribed opiates for stuff, I'm like, ooh-ho, no, not a care in the world today. I love speaking to me. I want to vote for him right now. You can't. No, you can run as a felon. You just can't vote as a felon.
Starting point is 00:39:06 You're good. You can't vote for yourself. The president's a felon. Of course. He's opened new doors for people like me. In the interest of like helping it faster, I think it'd be better to skip the facilitate the drug use thing and reopen many, many asylums and force them out of this behavior that's destroying themselves and the communities that they are inhabiting.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And so you just, oh, we caught someone doing drugs all. bent over and you know this is a place where children have to walk by and women have to now this isn't what first world countries do we're putting you in an asylum we're going to get you clean we're going to give you whatever mental health assistance you need in order to get you clean we're not going to continue the drug thing you're not allowed to leave until you are clean and if you you know continue to do this over and over there has to be a cost to it i knew they gave out methadone which i'm not an expert but my understanding is that something that helps with withdrawals as you're trying to leave over here with light.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Is that that's I always thought that was a good thing like this is yeah okay you want to help get because they give out like heroin no it's clean no you're against the needles Taylor no I'm saying that I in a perfect world like you give people needles for it but the real response to kind of skip this like protracted middleman thing is like people doing hard drugs hurting the communities they're in, hurting people around them, because these drugs lead to crime because being that addicted to something, like, it facilitates it. And it's not fair to like normal law-abiding people to have to be around this or adjacent to it. And so you just take them, you identify this antisocial behavior that's putting other people at risk,
Starting point is 00:40:55 you put them in an asylum, and you do your best to help and be kind and figure out maybe an underlying issue. And if the person is capable of bouncing back, then that's wonderful. That's a successful rehabilitation. If they're not, and they're just a crazy person, then that sucks. That's sad. You know, who knows their circumstance or they're like inborn genetic malady that caused it, but they need to be removed. I like the idea in theory, but not in practice. Because I wonder about, I don't like the no flight list. You know, I work, I don't like lists that the government puts together. I don't like these arbitrary, hey, he was a drug user. What crime did he commit? Well, we didn't catch him doing anything, but he was high when we saw him. Did he have drugs on him? Well, no, he'd already
Starting point is 00:41:40 used them. Well, that's not a crime here. Well, he's clearly a drug user. We're going to lock him up. Well, if the eye test is all it takes, what's to keep them from scooping Taylor up because they don't like his political views? He's a drug user. He's going to this asylum. We're going to let him out when he's clean, and they never let you out again. Couldn't be an I test. There would have to be regulations surrounding this. Mosquito in here. Oh, that sucks. Don't get tagged. You could get fucking West Nile. Or AIDS. We got these AIDS mosquitoes now. That's not good. There's no good solution to this and we've let it go for so long that now any sort of actual attempted solution is going to seem so huge because it's it's festered.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And I don't know. I could be, I'm always open to being wrong. But like it seems more caring. to remove them from this situation that is killing them and destroying communities immediately. I put them on a farm. I swear to God, I put those people, I would establish a druggie farm somewhere out in the middle of nowhere where they couldn't get away, and there'd be signs surrounding it that say don't pick up pitchhikers,
Starting point is 00:42:49 their druggies or something like that, the way they do with prisons. You ever see that? That's a disturbing thing. No, no, no. If you drive through, like, I think in Texas I've seen it, The road signs will say, don't pick up hitchhikers. They may be escaped convicts.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Oh, I've seen that. Yeah. Yeah, that's scary. We could call it. Alligator is anonymous, right? Let's put them all in one spot. We don't want to run on a very wet mattress. We got a labor shortage.
Starting point is 00:43:18 We got a labor shortage. We need somebody picking the fruit. So why not take these people who are already very good at bending over and getting into weird positions? Send them out in the fields. The leaners. Yeah, they're already leaning down, upside down, like at ground level. Hey, I'm in, you're the foreman, and I'm your assistant. Kyle, I'm like, I hate to bother you, but that guy bent over the strawberry patch.
Starting point is 00:43:39 He hasn't touched a fruit in four hours. He's just been over. He's just, he's pretending. He's not even high. He's not even high. He's got a weird spinal. Or maybe like a circuit of salet, but just for those people, like, if you played music and had a good light show, then maybe their contortions would, would be entertaining and less disturbing and upsetting.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's very upsetting when I see those videos of major cities and the people all bent over weird. It's true as them. And again, like the streets around them will be just this post-apocalyptic looking shit. And I don't know. It's upsetting to see that in our country. I wish that wasn't the case.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Philly has that. And I don't know if this is true because my sources read it and I don't instinctively just trust stuff. But they said Philadelphia is no longer the poorest city in America. We're second now. Wow. It's kind of a big deal.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I didn't catch who was the poorest. Oh, damn. I was going to guess. I was going to guess Memphis. Oh, it's not a bad one. But if it's like East St. Louis or something, I'm going to feel dumb. That might be it. Houston takes first place on the poorest city.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Interesting. They're sending the national, or I thought. I didn't look into this even one second. I just had a friend text me. He's like, hey, they're saying they're going to send the National Guard to St. Louis. It's like, good. I knew you'd be okay with it. I knew you'd be okay with it.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Normal people are so sick. But I saw like videos of like a bunch of black people in Memphis, like people asking them. Like, are you okay with the National Guard? And these people are like, yes, you have no idea how horrible it is trying to go grocery shopping here, trying to live your life under threat of like, and it's eye opening. how tiny a percentage of people it is who just commit these crimes over and over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And it's like, we just need to lock those people up forever and let normal people live a more peaceful life. The poverty rate in Detroit is 38%. The unemployment rate is 20%. The average median income is $27,800. Detroit's your number one poorest
Starting point is 00:45:52 followed by Cleveland, Dayton, Ohio, Hartford, Connecticut, Rochester, New York. New York, New Jersey. Oh, you made the list. Jackson, Mississippi, Syracuse, New York, Birmingham, Alabama, and Springfield, Mass. It's surprising to me that there aren't just a slew of southern cities because I think of Memphis and, I don't know, some of these southern cities that are kind of in my general area as rough places. I would guess it's a city proper versus metropolitan area distinction, because I bet you get different areas depending on which one you're analyzing. Probably so.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, you need one with that. out of thrive. Like, I'm sure New York is probably, I'm guessing it's the richest city. Like, that's where billionaires Roe is and such. San Frinton, probably. But maybe New York are the financial district stuff. Right. Well, then there's
Starting point is 00:46:41 the tech people in like San Jose. That could be very wealthy. New York. Yeah. That makes that. New York was the richest. Consistfully ranks as the wealthiest city in the world and in America by metrics such as the number of millionaires,
Starting point is 00:46:55 sent to millionaires, and the total wealth held by residents. It's poorly written. You don't say that it's the richest city in the world and also America. Right. In America and also the world. Is that AI?
Starting point is 00:47:10 It is. Fucking idiot. It's the richest city in the multiverse. And it's Missouri. And it's like, nice. You had me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:25 The universe, but. I hear you on like, you know, cities needing help. I do worry that the National Guard is a dumb way to do it. Oh, it's clearly a dumb way to do it. It depends if it results in arrests or just a stay of violence until they leave, you know? At best it's a stay of violence until they leave. I mean, I feel like you need to be there to really know because everyone who talks about it has an agenda. If you're on Reddit, picture after picture after picture of the National Guard picking up trash.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I like that though I'm fine It's a very expensive way To get trash picked up No because he put him on a 29 day mission So he didn't have to pay them anymore Any extra remember Like if you
Starting point is 00:48:07 If you send them in for 30 days You have to pay for a bunch of extra stuff It's way more expensive But anything less than that And it doesn't meet that bar So he sent them to DC for 29 days exactly Are we housing them? Are we like
Starting point is 00:48:24 I have no idea I will not be convinced that the National Guard is a cost-effective way to pick up trash from a... No, there's no one-well. Weren't they getting paid anyway? I don't know the National Guard works. If they're not helping facilitate arrests and, like, increase the number of, like, criminals who are being taken off the street, then it's exactly what you're saying. And it's going to be a stay of it until they leave.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And then it'll be an immediate risk, because you've seen in D.C., crime has plummeted. And as soon as they leave, if they haven't been arresting, a lot of people, it's going to go, woo. I bet it works a little like a security guard, right? You put a security guard in the bank, sitting there all the time, looks like he never does anything. So you get rid of the security guard, and suddenly you realize like, oh, he was a deterrent to crime happening in that area. That's my guess is to like what a big National Guard presence looks like, you know. But it doesn't solve the root issue. The root cause, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Do we need better trials? Do we need freaking job programs in prisons to lower recidivism rates? Do we need drug counseling? And, you know, like, I don't know. Like, what is it that's causing these people to be criminals? And how do we reprogram to be better people? I don't think National Guard, like, as a show of force, has any lasting? improvement. No, I don't think
Starting point is 00:49:51 so either. Like, they should just leave them there all the time, maybe. You have a soldier with an M4 on every street corner, I think. We'd probably be... You'd do that forever, you know. Why not? It's still a little pricey. Little, you know, but I think the real... We invaded the Middle East for two decades, and we got that under a bell. That's true, but
Starting point is 00:50:08 Kyle, this is all money that Israel needs, brother. Fuck, you're right, Israel needs it so bad. They need it. What were we joking about before the... Ha! All right, so news came right before we started that Israel is mobilized roughly 70,000 reservists and they are heading
Starting point is 00:50:25 into Gaza city proper and they've created a huge like what do you call it when you've got an armada of tanks a flotilla of tanks a fucking red like a whole bunch of tanks they got a gaggle it's a gaggle it's a murder a murder of tanks
Starting point is 00:50:41 like gross there's cute ones for every breed of dog and for I think maybe doxins it's like a sizzle of doxins or something like that. That's a good one. Or a link of toxins because they're wiener dogs. You know, like a link of sausages.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Oh, that's way better than sizzle. I like that. But yeah, they're going in right now. It's the biggest ground invasion of the war. If you can call that, call it that. And we're saying, oh, Israel's really taking the gloves off now. Yeah. No more Mr. Nice guy.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I was watching a mom. of tall buildings that Israel took out and part of it just looks cool all the buildings I saw look destroyed anyway like they needed demo but now in the context of like I watched a lot of Ukraine stuff those tall buildings became like sniper nests and just really good vision points to exert your force across a big area and they probably didn't want Hamas to have it well I think They just wanted to destroy any reason that people might have for living there in the future and, like, completely ruined the quality of life there. If you saw these buildings, I think you'd agree with me that that mission was already accomplished.
Starting point is 00:52:00 These were, they totally couldn't be fixed. Sure, sure. I mean, they didn't have, they had some shoddy craftsmanship before the war. It seemed like, I don't think everything was up to code. There was a reason they had those water towers on every, well, the reason they had the water tanks on every building was because there's real. routinely cuts off their water for funzies. Yeah, and then they bomb that. It seems to me just like another way to menace the people there into trying to force.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And look, some of those people need a good menacing, you know, like there's no good guys. What did Trump say back of the day? There's good people on both sides. There's bad people on both sides in that little conflict. However, when I see a whole bunch of doctors and rescue workers wearing orange vests get shelled by a tank while they're on that fire escape trying to get to. people and when I see that like literal phalanx of Israelis form a circle around that lady and gang rape her and then they make the the head rapist like a social media and tonight show star in their
Starting point is 00:53:00 country like ah welcome to the show rafy jo and like the guy comes on they're like playing music as the raper comes out sounds like you're judging someone else's culture when i see that um i don't know what you call their head religious leader they they all look like fucking warlocks but that warlock's But that warlock was telling that guy, he's like, he's like, put his hand on. He's like, you are forgiven. You are forgiven. If you rape the enemy, you are fine in the eyes of God. Whatever you do to the enemy is okay.
Starting point is 00:53:30 There's a, there's a meme on Twitter that if you click the translate post on any Israeli tweet, be ready for the most monstrous thing you can imagine where it'll be like, good. and I hope more of these future terrorist's legs are blown. And it's like, my God, this is. Oh, it's worse than that. It is hard to watch anything about that conflict with that. I don't want us in the Middle East at all, but you can't watch that honestly and think anything other than like,
Starting point is 00:53:59 this is reprehensible. Like, this is horrific what they are doing to those people. I saw that pretty Israeli girl. And I guess they asked her, you know, are you for killing the children? He's like, when you're at war with someone, you have to kill the children too, because they are just going to grow up and be terrible. too. So you must kill the children, if anything, first. You must target the
Starting point is 00:54:19 children. It's like, fuck. She's not a very good soldier. You clearly take out the parents, and then the children are easy killing. You would think so. You just motivate the parents if you take the kids out first. This is a terrible strategy. I think they want to motivate them, because as long as this war goes,
Starting point is 00:54:37 B.B. doesn't have to face court. For some reason, because that's... I don't know how that works. I think there was someone who worked under Obama leaked that he heard BB say oh this war will last for decades oh you're never going to stop
Starting point is 00:54:55 and then I saw them take out that the Houthis in I know they're bombing Qatar this week but I think they also bombed Yemen this week and I watched this video about how they tricked slash lured the Houthis into having like a cabinet meeting, like the leader of the Houthis.
Starting point is 00:55:17 They called him the president maybe or the prime minister or something. He got his whole cabinet together in a building. Well, they just leveled the whole fucking building and killed dozens of innocent, just Yemenis. Like, they don't care. No, they do not care at all. One bit.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And then our politicians run cover for it, if not openly. Our politicians wear IDF uniforms, bro. yeah we're so far through the looking glass on that situation like it's it's wild this is an issue we all line up on america should see why israel was upset uh it's hard to say hamas struck first but they definitely like raise the ante you know they they and then israel raised it farther but oh my god they went all in it's wild it violates my sense of right and wrong. They gave the Israelis the
Starting point is 00:56:13 excuse they've been looking for for a long time to go full bore to use all those American tax tax dollars and those weapons of war to their fullest extent and they got the population. They didn't care what we thought. They don't care what the Saudis think. They don't care what Europe thinks.
Starting point is 00:56:29 They only care what their voting public thinks, those nine and a half million Israelis. So once they had them on their side, or at least a majority of them, they went full bore. It's been a year. It's been a year ago when we were talking about the multi thousand pound bombs that they were
Starting point is 00:56:45 using instead of like they always say precision munitions which is such a fucking sanitized way to say a big ass bomb dropped on a house hoping for the best it's I mean you hit the house you wanted to but we don't know who's in that house
Starting point is 00:57:01 and the bomb you dropped kills the whole neighborhood like you know what I mean like I hate giving aid to other countries that have it pretty good. So this is what I mean. Like if you tell me, Sudan has a huge HIV problem
Starting point is 00:57:17 and we want to drop one and a half million dollars worth of condoms there. I'm like, okay, that doesn't sound so horrible. It might make the whole world a better place. Might even be a good investment for America. But if it's just the right thing to do, that's not so bad either. But Israel has universal health care.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Fuck, any country that has universal health care getting America's money. Free college. Free college. college, universal health care, and they still have their palm up saying, gimme, gimme, gimme, you can have my finger up, Dick. Yeah, I got no problem with financing their Iron Dome and financing their missile defense. I do.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Well, here's the reason I don't. I do, because if the October 7th attack hadn't happened, then I don't think any of this would have happened, the genocide that came after. So I think helping them protect themselves from mass casualty events is sort of protecting the world from them having an excuse for doing war. So I'm okay with that. But I don't like sending over the big
Starting point is 00:58:17 fucking bombs and I don't like all the tax dollars. When I play chess, I look one move ahead. I don't want your complex logic. That's no way to run a country. Massad is an incredibly good intelligence agency and somehow they let October 7th
Starting point is 00:58:33 just get right past them. Somehow, right? Somehow. You know, kind of like how we somehow didn't see Pearl Harbor coming, even though we had radar. What are all those boats? Don't worry about those boats. Don't worry about that. Well, I noticed that all of our good boats are out to see today. What's that about? Don't worry about that either. Don't worry about that either. These old battleships, if someone were to touch them, we would probably destroy the we would go to war. We knew Pearl Harbor was coming, just like it's now been claimed by a lot of
Starting point is 00:59:05 people finding evidence they say shows that Israel knew October 7th was coming and I mean on 9-11 weren't like all our useful planes like weirdly away doing goals I don't think but well I don't know no I don't I don't think that's a thing I mean we we scrambled jets right away and and had them up um after the second plane after the second plane hit then we knew that this wasn't an accident that it was a targeted thing and I think the jets got scrambled and the president was up in Air Force one circling for days hiding out when when a geopolitical entity wants to get an excuse to do like involve themselves in a war or whatever it's nothing new to allow an attack to occur like that's to make your own attack well or but that's something that like someone will hear like the term false flag
Starting point is 00:59:57 and they think that means like oh it start to finish made up inside men this and that like not necessarily it could just be something that was allowed to occur you know No one who's saying is going to deny that there are evil Hamas members who want to kill all the Jews in that area. No, they do want that. They hate them. You know, you can say they hate them because of the land, struggle, whatever, but those people exist. And so, like, I don't think it takes a grand conspiracy to say, yeah, this, it does seem like something they would organize and do. But if you're looking for an excuse to engage in, like, a total cleansing, you may allow something like that.
Starting point is 01:00:35 to happen in the furtherance of trying to get global support but who knows you have to say who knows at the end yeah it's pretty pretty upsetting i just don't like there's the middle east has brought us nothing but heartache enough dude the world's not in a good place right now no it's not that's that's how it vibes to me you know the world i'm in a great time all right you? Oh yeah, fucking killing Hell divers. Oh, just just great. I'm glad that hell divers didn't catch too much flack from that
Starting point is 01:01:13 psychopath writing a hell diver's strategy on the bullet. Yeah. No, of course not. Yeah, no more than South Park does. That's all horseshit. Yeah, exactly. South Park, I think, took down the episode from some of the rebroadcasts on Comedy Central maybe, or maybe Comedy Central made that
Starting point is 01:01:29 decision, but the episode's still up on Paramount, which is where you stream South Park now after the lawsuit got finalized, that episode's still up, and the clips of it are still up. And that's a funny episode that doesn't, isn't that mean to Charlie Kirk. It's just a funny episode.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Charlie Kirk took it well. He did. He viewed it as a sign of success that, you know, he has some prominence. I forget the exact quote, but he certainly wasn't like, fuck these guys for making fun of me. Yeah, I think they called him a master debater,
Starting point is 01:02:00 which is funny. Carmen was, he's like, mom, leave me alone, I'm master debating. especially for someone who was like 31 like because I know like at my age too I'm only three years older than him like it would be easy even if they're ripping on you to see like South Park is like a I have made it in a way relevance wise than I never imagined like fucking South Park is talking about me that would kind of be a a little bit of an ego stroking thing I would imagine I am I'm glad I didn't say it I was buying the Goyper thing for a while. Like, you guys heard this? Yeah, those are Nick Fuentes' fans, the Goypers. Nick Fuentes' fans.
Starting point is 01:02:41 There was these apparently Nick Fuentes, fans and Charlie Kirk fans had like this goyper wars. And they just pointed out like every single thing he wrote on the bullet casings is a thing in the goyper community. And it was new to me. So I was kind of easily persuaded like, oh, okay, this is it. But maybe wasn't a Goyper at all. all he seemed to a goyper if people have no idea would say that charlie kirk wasn't far right enough
Starting point is 01:03:10 and that's not what i got from his text messages so yeah they wouldn't someone who's a fan of nick fuentes would never use the word fascist to describe charlie kirk like that's that's not an insult they would go that's not what i would think like and i agree with you everything i've seen about it is like instances of nick foentes ripping on him for being like this guy is too controlled he won't say what actually needs to be said he's too milk toast he's basically like a boomer Republican like so yeah that didn't jump
Starting point is 01:03:41 corporate Republican that felt like a total whole cloth attempt at narrative control and fell apart rapidly okay I see it more as wish casting than like you know an organized narrative control I think every time there's a shooting
Starting point is 01:03:58 both sides are like I hope this one wasn't mine and it looks like the left shot Charlie Kirk and the right shot up that school. Which school? The Colorado one on the same day. Oh, you haven't heard this? No, no, I heard that, but I haven't done any due diligence.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Did you see the thing that happened? Is the Annapolis Military Academy? The Naval Academy. I saw it when it was happening. Here's what happened. I'm 99% sure I got these facts, 100%. 50% of the time, I'm right 100% of the time. I've already decided to trust you, just say it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So there was a kid or there was an individual who I think had been kicked out and he was mad about that so he phoned in like an active shooter threat using a fake IP address that made it seem like he was on campus that caused like police forces
Starting point is 01:04:48 to show up well you know those gun twirling ROTC guys one of those fellows saw a man come into school with a gun out like acting all crazy it was a cop and so he attacked the
Starting point is 01:05:04 cop with his twirley rifle. He hit him with it because he thought he was defending his school from a shooter. The cop is there thinking he's defending the school from the shooter. So he shoots the twirly gun guy. Torley gun guy goes down and he's like why? You son of a bitch, leave my classmates alone.
Starting point is 01:05:23 And the cop's like, wait, what? Oh no. And so they have to banish this kid up and send him to the house. No one died. I don't think anybody died. I think what I said is the extent. That's an amazing story. Is the really gun guy called
Starting point is 01:05:38 Color Band? I'm not sure if I'm right. I believe that I don't know what organization or thing he was doing. I just know he had
Starting point is 01:05:46 one of those ceremonial rifles. Like he had one of Color Guard. Color Guard? That's what Zach said. Color Band. Okay. I was half right.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And that sounds right. Color Guard. I've heard that before. Man, that sucks. Thank God no one was died because of a stupid misunderstanding and it could have happened so easy. Kyle said a week ago
Starting point is 01:06:08 handguns wound rifles kill. I read a stat, I think this is true. Something like 85% of handgun victims survive. Handguns wound rifles kill. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, they're just triple the
Starting point is 01:06:23 legality. Like there's so much energy going down range. The bullets go all the way through you. When they hit your bones, your bones explode and become shrapnel inside your body. Whereas a pistol bullet, a lot of them are slow-moving fat things that won't even over-penetrate you sometimes.
Starting point is 01:06:40 You know, there's stories about guys in Korea fighting the Chinese, and they were wearing so many layers of thick clothing that they'd stop the Chinese bullets at range, you know? Like, a rifle will fucking kill you. I've heard it said that a handgun wound isn't too far from like an ice pick
Starting point is 01:06:56 wound. I've been to the handgun, obviously, and the range and where they shoot you and all that stuff. Sometimes it can be literally like a lethal weapon scene where you just take one through the shoulder and the guy seemingly like, all right, I got to bandage this up and go. I had that friend who accidentally shot himself in the foot clearing his own house with a 45. That's really embarrassing. He was in the Marine Corps, so he couldn't tell anybody before he'd risk his career. So he filled the hole with Neospore and
Starting point is 01:07:24 wrapped his foot and put it in his boot and never told anyone. Does that work? Yes, as long as you don't hit anything. It went between the foot bones and his foot and out the bottom and didn't hit anything major and you're fine if that happens, you know? Wow. That's so much. I mean, he could have
Starting point is 01:07:45 died of sepsis or something. Like, it could have gone the other way. I'm not saying if you shoot yourself in the foot, don't be, it's neosporing that bitch up, but he did and he was fun. What you're saying is use a lot of neosporin? Lots of neosporin. The cream, not the jail. That's important. That's a classic air going jail mode. Vaseline, what are you from the 50s?
Starting point is 01:08:09 You don't want any Vaseline in there. No, that probably wouldn't be good for you. Well, I think it's about dinner time, boys. I agree. All right, PKN, 578.

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