Painkiller Already - PKN 584

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

P.KN 584. It's up, boys. How's it going on? How's it going? Are you winning many games, Kyle, in Battlefield? Taylor, we've seen it. We've seen it. I'm good at Battlefield. I'm not asking a leading... You actually looked good at Battlefield, but your team kept losing. That's the thing I don't like about Battlefield. It's what we always say is I feel in...

Is it that defeat screen at the end? It's when we play those like... Is it being burned? into your monitor because it just says defeat during the game i've been playing defeat over there i actually i've been playing a lot of the like eight v8 and then you can kind of you can help the team win like you can definitely like carry your own weight but when it's 64 versus 64 or whatever it is i think it's 32 versus 32 even when we like get our four-man squad together all right let's flank to the right let's all try to take the there's so many flags the our flag and and we'll be good and like

we just implies the existence of like 18 other flags yeah there's a lot of flags it's it's it's battlefield but the the br drop today the battle royale and the season one like launch the new maps new weapons the the season one pass it's very callie call of duty esk they've taken over call of duty spot they are call of duty like if you haven't seen battlefield gameplay it's modern warfare too It's modern warfare, too, without all the goddamn bugs. That's exactly what it plays like. Yeah, and it's slick. It's beautiful.

The vehicles, the vehicles don't fly like Ace Combat. It's not a sim game. It's not squad either. But it ain't Call of Duty. It's somewhere in between where you can have fun but still be a little immersed. It's a good time. Call of Duty was literally just one stick where you point it to a part on the map, if I recall. Control altitude?

That's not a thing we do here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so funny to see people jump in the helicopter and they're clearly doing it for the first time ever. And then they just veer off to the ride and just hit a mountain over there somewhere. And you're like, well, I guess we wait. Was it three minutes or five minutes till we get another helicopter? It's five.

It's five in this mode. Meanwhile, the enemy is flying over like Tom Cruise and top gun. Five minutes until respawn if you die in a helicopter? Oh, no, no, no. You get another helicopter every like three or four minutes. Like a, yeah, there's a big incentive not to be some goober who's like, I want to be the pilot. Is there a train mode?

Oh, yeah. It's called portal, and it's basically, it's a lot like Halo forge, except you can create your own servers and host your own servers and host your own games and game experiences. And it's really in-depth. People have made Call-Duty zombies in there, complete with like pack-a-punch machines and weapon purchasing and the bots are just the regular bots

but they're coming out with sledgehammers and they're coming in waves which is a little scary when they back into a corner but yeah there's a training mode with every it's really good like content creators have gone on there

and created like flight sims and vehicle warfare and all sorts of things so you can practice by yourself or you can do like one v one jet combat for hours on in it's it's a good system. I hope they make Nazi zombies, or really just zombies.

They can branch out. They don't have to stick with the Nazi theme. It can be any type of zombies. But I hope Battlefield does that, because that would be the final nail in the coffin for like half of those Cod games. And as we've said many times, Cod has lost the plot when it comes to zombies. They won't do.

They seem to think that we enjoy the rigamaroo of like filing taxes and like the little things you have to do here and there to make something work right. And it's like, no, this is, this is gay. it should be about slaying zombies team the zombies team got so much funding and they got so big it's their own

like wing of development over there that they needed something to do because add more maps you fucking idiots well that's a whole different department that that that's that's not even like like there are some guys who are like narrative creators and they're

they're like they're they're actually coding and writing all that all those puzzles I don't understand why I can oh wait so you're saying they use all the they could have just made more maps though like they could have fired the puzzle towards and then brought more map people in that's just a weird way to organize it it's like yeah I'm in charge of road building but don't you get this started on the pavement map design so

hard in games like the battlefield so obviously I'm not a battlefield player this is the first battlefield I've played since bad company and that was like 15 years ago or something like that but I was like early college when they came but I follow the scene a little bit and and I see that it feels like the old head battlefield people are very unhappy with the maps because these maps are smaller and more call of duty-esque. Again, this game plays like call of duty, especially if you play

domination or headquarters, then they take what's already a small map for battlefield standards and they shrink it into a call of duty map and it's like, oh my God, this would be a wonderful call of duty map. This is, but it's better than God, I promise you. There's no bullshit.

There's never do I die in Battlefield. I'm like, ah, he was using the gun that takes quite a bit of skill to use. Fucker. I see people complain about people and there's a text chat where like everybody can talk shit or you can talk with Munster team or

whatever you want to do and I see people be like, camper, fuck you. And I'm like, it's conquest. He's protecting his flag. Like, I don't mind when people camp and hide in corn. Is there VC for like you and pub people? I think there is, but nobody used in. Voice chat.

Like in game. Like in game, It's a complicated game. The economics alone. It seems like a game like Battlefield even more than Cod, and for Cod it was important. You guys remember playing like Cod 4 or Modern Warfare 2 and like sometimes the voice chat that you got with people through the comes with the Xbox 360 headset

was so important. Like don't do this, do this. It's just doing all that by text. First of all, I feel like a half of the people who otherwise would talk are going to see that it's text-based and do what I would do and be like I don't have time to like type and do all the game stuff I'm trying to learn to play I guess I'll just like vibe with it and try and see what people are doing I type mostly it's it's so stupid and I have voice chat there's a lot of riffing and being silly I think there might

be void but I don't know how to use it and nobody I've never heard anyone use it if if it is if it's in the game then it's not working or nobody at all uses or I've got it turned off that's possible too but I use the the chat every now and then to be like go to be everyone go to B or like paint the vehicles. Please, recon, paint the vehicles. Please. Recon is like the snipers who just sit all the way in the back of the map

and try to shoot somebody from 50 hundred yards away. And they've got a pair of goggles that can make it really easy to shoot aircraft down. But they just won't. They just won't. Nah. Nah, I want to do that. And there's like, it's meme to death

that the people with the defibrillators won't pick you up. The defibrillators also come with the ability to continually stock yourself with ammo. It's like infinite ammo, basically. You've got the ammo packs and the health packs. So he'll be standing there. Defib hanging off his belt and you're laying there. Please.

Please, Colonel. And he's just like, no. He just runs over your body. All he's going to do is go and keep moving, but they just want to work. How's that KD versus, I guess, Sunday when we saw you tooling around a little bit. I've got so many kills.

It'd take a long time to move that thing. I've played a lot of battlefield. Are you still on like an eight hour a day, 10 hour a day rolling average, just grinding? I don't know what day I started. That's the thing. That tells me more than what you're going to say next. I don't know what day the game came out,

and I don't know if I, like, I didn't make a point to buy it when it came out. I wasn't sure if I wanted to play it. I could sort of bought it on a lark. And then, like, the guy started playing, and I had a group to play with. And then, you know, they're all hardcore gamers. I imagine the only time you're stopping playing is when you're sitting there and you just hear your stomach like, like, oh, I haven't eaten in 15 hours.

I've always gamed around my meals. I'll be sitting here with my turkey sandwich and my banana chips. Dude, I've got you beat. Like, I'll be gaming with my friends. And I'm so excited about it, having a great time. Jackie's like all right he's gaming so she comes up she brings me my food

it's all bite sized she has pre-cut my meat into bite-sized pieces and while I'm gaming she'll feed me the first couple bites that is really all that is so funny I've said that to my girlfriend so many times that's great that's awesome

I've joked that I need someone to feed me while I game before but that's hilarious not every day but call it like four or five days a week just cutting up little pieces and I like to think that you're just like sitting there clicking furiously in your mouth like open being like uh uh she's a little slow on the draw you're demanding additional where's the airplane

just just praise no criticism where are the almonds there's no in this man These are store brand Nothing wrong with store brand almonds But yeah The BR launched today

I've only played two games of it I think that it could make or break Battlefield's like dynasty That is verging Because they've done a great job In my opinion with the multiplayer I know people are complaining About the littlest things

They don't like the camos The new camos are a little loud And they complain so much That Battlefield went and redesigned It made them less loud Quickly Yeah The game's like 10 days old, no?

Before they released. Like the came before the camo released. Like so it's a new camo. They're like, hey, season one comes with the green goblin camo. And it's not really the green goblin. It's just a guy with some green stripes on his shirt. But everybody freaked the fuck out. So they turn the green down.

That actually makes that meshes perfectly with my understanding of battlefield players. Like I bet that shit flies and cod, but all my friends who have been or are really into battlefield are like either former military themselves or the reason they picked Battlefield over Cod was for like the higher Millsim thing. And so for them it would be a big deal. Like they don't want to see some guy. They don't want to pick up some other guy's rifle and have it be gold

plated or red tiger. Like they they kind of like there's a little bit of bad. Fo realism. I like it when hard to earn rewards are slightly different. Like okay you jump in the nube uniform looks like this. It's some like forest

camo. And then if you are fucking god at the game who's carried for a thousand hours now same uniform with a metal on the chest and you know and those who know no no right everything else you look just like a new player

except I can tell you're that guy I think the the thing would be the in this game it's the called the Ronde is it the Ronde juke I'm getting it wrong I bet so what it is it's it's that move where you're in your fighter jet fighting another fighter jet and you jump out in midair

and you RPG the guy and then you jump back into your fighter jet or his and you fly away That's how the jack's got to jump on us It is. I've seen that in videos I can't imagine pulling it off Like doesn't the jet leave the area Like how do you get?

Oh does it go straight down or They often fly the jet straight up So that it sort of continues with its momentum And then it starts to fall And during all this You've got infinite parachutes Like imagine that your parachute has infinite redeployments

re deployments yeah so at any point you can cut and free fall and shoot and then immediately pull another parachute and float redirect and like think about your next move and stuff so but they jump out and RPG those have you hit someone with that yet fuck no I can barely fly the plane

oh you'll get there no I'll never I'm not going to try to fly the plane the plane's not as rewarding like even if you're a really good plane pilot you can't do the damage that a helicopter pilot can do Tank seems like the most fun. Tank's really easy and really fun,

but the Bradley, which is like an infantry fighting vehicle, which is more, it's like a small tank with a gun that goes bum, bum, bum, instead of just a giant cannon. That's what's fun.

You can really fuck the enemy up with one of those if you keep it alive. But it's fun to like, sort of do that tandem thing where one guy's driving and one guy's shooting the little machine gun to keep them off you and jumping out periodically

to heal the thing, which is my favorite thing. to do. I'm good at that. I'm always out creeping around. The enemies are shooting at me. I'm, shot me in the eye, but I'm still grinding on the side of it. You can break the other guy's tank with your repair kit, right? Oh, yes. That's my

favorite thing to do in the old game. This is like 10 years ago, but I can remember, like, it's not healing. It's supposed to be there's a guy sneaking on the other side, like undoing my efforts. Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite thing. I love to kill the vehicles in the game and ruin someone else's good time.

because those vehicles are on cool down and some players will try to hide in the back of the map and just lob shells into the infantry instead of playing with their vehicles and so I make it my mission to destroy all the tanks in the map you can plant three mines per life and they persist after death so you just they'll be like

who's putting all these mines out here and I'm like that's me that's me 30 deaths that's 90 mines they're just everywhere Have you ever spent any time Looking up like the ancient Equivalence of tanks Like because they had that idea

They just didn't have like the requisite metallurgy Or like gunpowder or things like that Is it a phalanx? What is it called when they hold the shields around them And make sort of a human tank? Yeah phalanx is where they had the long spears And all the Greeks would line up And it was like a layered defensive system

They had a ceiling on it too right yeah uh yeah sometimes they would do the ceiling if they were under archer fire but um the the actual that's probably well they yeah and like then uh really like an ancient tank is like a war wagon are you guys familiar with like the war wagon class of ancient warfare where like it would basically be like you know draft horses like these antihizer bush style big old horse they didn't have klysses i don't think but whatever that equivalent was and then it would be like a really heavily armored chassis or

carriage. Carriage is the word. A heavily armored carriage with like little slits in the side. The same way like at the base of castles they would have those little slits. So if somebody was like trying to get into your castle you could be like, uh-uh, motherfucker and shoot them when they were like right up against your gates. And it would be like crossbows or bows

or like the Chinese would throw like primitive grenades out of them with like their firework powder and the saltpeter and the gunpowder. It's really, really cool the europeans would do it where they had these like break open uh wooden carriages where it could be like led into battle uh perpendicular to the opponent's lines and then they could pull something and then like the main fortified wall would stay up and all the other ones would open downward like flaps and then like you could send men up there they could shoot with their

primitive uh crossbows or they could shoot with a gun if it was later in time and then as they died someone else could replace it, Kyle, you're there? You're muted. Yeah, like the Empire and Warhammer. They've got the war wagons. They do. Okay, well, that's a, the war wagon, like, class of military tactics is really cool because it, like, it found its way all over.

Like, it's not like- How did they protect the horses? Did you explain that? The horses would be heavily armored, or if it was, like, more of a static, like, it is a, quote-unquote tank that kind of, like, becomes a bunker once it reaches where it's supposed to be. Then they would like have somebody unhook those horses and be like get the fucking horses out of here because they're going to get shot and killed bring them back and we need to move this kind of portable bunker. But it's just neat seeing like they had the idea for tanks

thousands of years ago. It's a pretty obvious idea. Yeah. Yeah. What if I didn't get hurt when they shot me? Yeah, that's true. I guess it's like imagine war but fun. Like the Sun Tzu says you know you're not winning unless you're having fun that was one of his laws i'm not sure about that one i'm doing an elden ring run run again but this time i'm doing it with a friend and we've doubled the boss's health so it's kind of fun and like my friend is good but the boss has double health. So like if someone dies halfway through the fight, well, that's a whole health bar, you know, compared to what is normal thing. Like, if half health is only his full health in the normal game. And my friend's dead. So now I have to do the whole thing, but I have to do the

whole thing at phase two difficulty, which is like an expanded move set and stuff. So, uh, you really try to stay alive. Most of, most of the time when one of us dies, the other one doesn't last very long. And we get to try again. But I'm having a blast with this run. He, has like the way that his PTO works is like it doesn't carry over so he has to take a day off and he's taking off tomorrow and we are going to murder some gods I'm down nice is it even like I mean you said you die and so it must still be hard but with those games like at least all the highlights I've watched of Souls games it's like it seems like you could turn the health up 10x once you have that shit like timed the way I'm sure you do where you know exactly. the time to roll away. I think what you might see is great players showing you their best efforts. Because I watched the best in the world compete and they die several times every night. And, you know, it's just hard.

Makes sense. Yeah. That series is not for me. It's just I would be aggravated and I'd be like, why I'm even trying to kill these fucking gay assholes? But hell divers blew our fucking minds. We were like, is this for people who, never played a game now it gets harder we play level five now and it goes to 10 there's 10 levels and uh the damn dragons what are they called that that throw flames dragon roach dragon roach i hit it four times with an anti tank that must not be it what Kyle what is the the uh hit him in the head some raid wait he's a thousand feet away flying through the air how do i hit

them in the head. You said this game was so easy that retarded people because it was made for retarded people. I mean, it was until level five came around. And there's 10 levels. Some of it's not, those will be not math. Okay, okay. Here's what it is. There are no difficulty sliders in the games

that I've been playing for the last year or so. So you walk in and the game just seems to hate you. It's like, all right, all right. As you learn to play, how about a 16v1? How's that sound? And you're like, well maybe less you don't get health potions they're you just fucked you need to do a hit list now because you're still learned that's bloodbored and uh then this game like the enemies barely

fought like we were blown away at the difficulty slider because we hadn't seen that in a while but now like we're it can be hard yeah um so as you go up through the levels not only did are there more enemies, but there are more varieties of enemies. So, like, if there's an enemy right now that you're like, oh, yeah, when that red guy shows up, I got to be, he's kind of tough. Now the red guy will have like spines growing out of him, and he'll have 150% HP or something. There's a very, I don't know if they put them back in, but there's a variant that boars underground. So you get no opportunity to shoot them on their approach.

They just emerge on top of you already and start clawing your eyes out. But the Dragon Roach in particular is hard because he's kind of only vulnerable when he stops and does that animation like this. And by the time he's done that, he's already done one breathing pass. And then he's come back and done another right on you. And it'll instant kill you if you don't have the right gear or if you're not like Johnny on the spot with your dodge. Headshots in particular? Because my friend Googled it and they said to shoot the wings. That doesn't do it.

That's a joke. oh my god he fell for it he's he had this it doesn't do anything when you shoot the wings I'm not mad he is not foolish for having shooting the wings is incredibly logical and Taylor you get hit markers when you shoot the wings and the wings take damage and this fucking thing is flying around with no flesh left on its wings

and we're like how many shots does it take it's like it so the internet told us it worked it seems to work except for it not working that is not on you That's how it should operate. Maybe if you shoot all the skin out of its wings, it becomes like a terrestrial worm. That's what the fans have requested.

That's what the players have requested. Because what it is, it's an airborne version of the Bile Titan, which is a giant thing that crawls around and breeds fire on you or acid-y fire. But yeah, everybody's complained that you could just pepper its wings forever, and nothing seems to happen.

Like you can have two mechs, just shoot, going, and nothing happens but one shot to the head kills it from the expendable anti-tank will one shot it to the head I think the quasar cannon probably one-shots it to the head

I have a stratagem that has four anti-tanks in the same call-in I forget what it's called I'd have to look it up again is it a plane that comes in and does a thing or is it orbital it's a weapon that you hold in your hands it's number of it's terrible

that's called Commando. Yeah. So the Commando is sort of a jack of all trades, but a master of none, in that you have the four light rockets. And it kind of takes like at least two, maybe more to kill like a charger even if you're hitting them in the head. But it is nice when there are those like hive guard, like giant spider things around.

It just go, fuck you and you and him over there and this guy too. But the expendable anti-tank has a 90-second cool down. and every time you call it in, you get two. And when you pick it up, you shoot it, and then you throw it away, and you pick up another one. So what you do is you continuously call them in, even if you don't need them. So the math is just scattered with them. Oh, yeah. And then teammates can have them.

And if you ever end up in that moment where, like, shit has fallen apart and you're just running, you'll be like, look over there. There's it, oh, aha. And then you, like, run by and grab your missile and, like, dump it on the big guy or whatever. So that's I know you dig in Battlefield. It'd be nice if we had you for a few hours in I'd do that.

I'd be happy to play hell divers. I bet Middy would too or just me or whatever you want to do. I love hell divers. Harder difficulties are where it gets fun though because things get crazy and it actually matters what you do. Like there are these missions where you have to raise the super

earth flag and you have to stay fucking love it. Patriotic music is playing. There's bugs coming from everywhere. There's missions. I'm sorry. I'm getting excited that you have to get the oil out of these planets that are like light years away. I don't even know where they are. And they're like, they're like, all right, we finally spread democracy as the shuttle leaves with all the oil.

Yeah. And patriotic music is playing and they pump your tires. And it's just like, we're such the baddies here. what are the are the seven stars on their flags supposed to be like for all the continents of Earth or because I'm not a big fan of their flag I just had to look up

the Super Earth flag they could do better it should be dare I say more America focused we're kind of a big part of the world the biggest part they represent the seven megacities or sectors of Super Earth yeah I think Super Earth is not

the same Earth right didn't we like break Earth and go to some other planet and make it the new one. Oh, that'd be new. That'd be news to me. It looks like our continental structure on the little globe. So it's like, I can see Italy and Saudi Arabia, so it has to be

yeah, not a good flag, not a fan. I'm kind of a new, I think I'm level 18 now, and the early levels come pretty quickly. So like 36 is so much more than 18, more than it sounds. Which war bond did you pick first, or are you just

working on the one that comes with the game. I'm working on the one that comes with the game. I have 750 credits towards, and I think I need a thousand to buy a war bond. Yes. Yes. Or $10. Whenever you go to buy your first, that's an important decision, and I have

thoughts. There's a war bond that is just explosives. That's the theme of it. And there's like three meta items in there. There's a thermite grenade that's really good. Those chargers, you hit him with one thermite grenade in the face and it kills them. So now

you have your answer for chargers and your grenade slots so your other slots can do other things. There's a crossbow that shoots explosive bolts and there's a grenade launcher pistol which solves your problem for closing bug holes. So now your grenade slot can do a different thing. So now your sidearm

closes bug holes fast. It's like funk. Funk and it's also a grenade launcher. I'll tap into you when I get close. Before I heard this I was going to buy the one that comes with fire resistant armor because the Roach Dragon is such a problem

for me lately. I'm like, oh, that helps me with a problem. It's not a bad thought, but I think there's a, if you go up in the top tab somewhere, there's like a, it's the same place where you buy super credits, but there's a super store and they'll let you buy pieces of armor and weapons outside and separate from buying a war bond. So you can jump right in and be like, oh, that's the armor I want. I don't want to spend $10 on this. Let me see if I can get it here for like 300 super credits.

So you might want to check there. My favorite armor, I don't know where to get anymore. It's a light armor that's padded. So it's light armor with medium armor protection, which is for me the best of both worlds. I don't be able to be fast, but I don't want to get hit with, die with one hit. Makes sense. I was watching more of this guy. I had like a thought for a guest who would be fun to have on the show.

and I didn't even bring it up to Chis or anything so it's not like waiting to hear what he says and I think we all know who it is I think we talked about him Caleb Hammer you guys know this guy who is he has that exploding show on YouTube where it's basically sitting down

with people who have made some of the most baffling financial and debt decisions oh I do know him and he'll be like so what's your monthly income and he'll be like well I'm on complete disability from lying to the government $3,800 a month. And he's like, okay, and what is your wife do?

And she's like, well, she runs an Etsy store that loses $1,400 a month. And they're like, all right. And what are your outstanding debts? And he's like, I just bought a Tahoe and she just bought three. It's like, and he's just sitting there exasperated. Like, do you guys understand what you're doing? Do you ever plan to buy a house? And they're like, oh, we have a house.

And were they buy three, get one free? or like we have a house and like I always think it would be funny if like when it pans back to him when those people are like yeah we own three properties it like morphed him into that Steve Correll character from the big short

or whatever he's like you tell me the prostitutes have seven houses down there we're in a bubble we're in a bubble it's collapse it's all coming down I think he would be fun he's one of those accounts that like when I see one of his

highlights on Twitter because he posts heavily there. I always stop and watch because it's how stressed out would you be? It's like watching my 600 pound life and being like yeah I guess I am pretty in control I guess things aren't too bad eating a whole

family size cheese that says I like I'm haughty at that fat. I can't fathom that level of financial it stresses me out recklessness imagining that like credit cards I just remember is like even as a child like not even from my parents, just from social, the meat, not social media, but media, from culture, I was hearing that, hey, credit cards are bad idea. Like, like, you've either have the money or you don't,

you know, the only way to do it, and then repeat it over and over was, the only way to use the credit cards, if you pay it off the end of every month, and you use it for, and you have it for emergencies and for reward systems, but you pay the balance off every month. You don't pay those people interest. It's a rigged game. And I was, I absorbed that. And I was like, all right, done I guess I'll never and they would give me these outrageous fucking spending limits and I bet fuck spends 35,000 dollars at what was it 29% interest I bet 30's the limit isn't it yeah legally like even even the American government had to like step in anti-usory law there and be like guys this is crazy and I not necessarily your guy but I think is it Greg Kramer or something

like that. There's some financial guy who also does, also does nightmare scenarios. And it's like you said, when they go through the, it'll start off with like, it's the wife calling him. She makes $200,000 a year. The husband makes fucking $3.75 a year. And they're living paycheck to paycheck. And the house is,

and like, the checkbook's on fire, metaphorically speaking. Like, he's like, well, where's all the money going? Well, there's this and that and there's his car collection, you know, he got a new this and it's like what are you people doing what are you people doing how are you yeah how are you going through this how would you not how would you not be stressed out all day every day it's like oh man i'm feeling anxious i got to go take a new i got to go take a drive in my

new dodge challenger that i that i that i am paying over 180 week or months like the rest of my life i'm going to be on the book for this fucking charge yeah i think that i're thinking of is Dave Ramsey. He's like the boomer who sits there with his arms crossed and there's a bunch of funny memes of him where he'll be like, uh-huh. Then his caller will, he'll be like, so let me get this straight. You spent $440,000 on a 8-bit pixel picture of a monkey. That's correct. And then you sold it for a $395,000 loss. That's correct, Dave. And you're looking for advice. Yes, Dave. It's like, well, I wouldn't do that again. No, Dave, I would actually like a loan for $375,000. I want to buy my monkey picture back.

I want that monkey picture back and he's willing to deal. He's willing to do whatever it takes. It was the biggest mistake of his life. So we saw NPCs as a huge mistake from a mile away. It was a PKK call. Oh, NFTs. NFTs. Yeah.

We saw NFTs as a problem from a mile away. We didn't see Bitcoin and some of the cryptocurrencies. as a good idea from a mile away. So we're 50-50. I wonder if we'll ever be right, right. I don't think, I mean, like, at the end of the day, it seems to understand it. And with the NFTs, I still don't understand it.

It seemed like with the NFTs. I think I do. I just don't know. I'm medium understand it. It seems like a tulip that you're hoping someone will buy later still. To this day to me, it kind of seem like a, I never hear anyone go, hey, the ease of purchase of items and goods and services day to day is being expedited so that.

but now I can use Bitcoin for my, my bills and my, this and not once have I heard that. And you could, you could chalk that up to like, yeah, it's appreciating at a, at a, that's what I was going to say, it's like, it's appreciating at a rate more far more rapid than, you know, our currency, which is not, not doing too hot, but it's still, like, it doesn't seem like it's set up to ever be a transactionary currency. It's just a whole item. Like, Bitcoin never seemed goofy. It seemed difficult to understand and sort, and sort of scary. it like there was clearly value there but but i didn't understand it and and it didn't seem like super safe the nfti thing it seemed goofy it seemed silly billy it seemed lame and it felt like they were

praying on the people who were too proud to admit they didn't understand bitcoin and so this time around they were going to be a step ahead they were going to be the smart guy like i understand nfts i can see the future this is i'm a visionary like nah dude it is it is it is literally a cartoon monkey and and what do you mean I can't copy paste I've got it I mean it took me a little while there but but now I have your monkey I just stole it what are you going to do about it like this isn't like the whole thing just seemed goofy and there was no no way to apply it to anything else that it's just like Bitcoin right they're both nonproductive assets right like it here if I have a

bunch of money and I decide to buy farmland or shares of Pepsi or whatever then every year, presumably that farmland kicks off some profits and makes a thing and gives me returns on that investment the entire time. And at the end of that, I can sell it to someone else who's interested in having the profits generated from that productive asset. If I buy Bitcoin, that I'm just holding it, hoping that someone comes along and thinks that this string of numbers and letters is even better than I thought it was when I bought it. And I can sell it at a profit the whole time it doesn't do anything for you it doesn't kick off there's no interest there's no profits there's no nothing it's an unproductive asset just like tulips or rocks diamonds gold

kiles muted um although like it doesn't do anything for you you're just hoping to find someone who thinks it's worth more than you did yeah and i i am continually wrong about this i mean like i get it i get it i just don't see holding bitcoin and having i think the body will fall out and I've been wrong so far we'll see. Too many governments have jumped in at this point. Like too many governments have jumped in and too many powerful people have jumped in at this point.

That's a fair retort. Whenever Trump started just like gold. Gold's price is going up really high right now. Right, but historically gold does not do better than investments do. It like you buy the S&P 500 and you will kick the fuck out

of gold. Okay. Well, doesn't gold tend to climb rapidly in times of like economic uncertainty so it's not like a stagnant rise the way not stagnant rise but like it's not as predictable a rise as like the smp because i mean at this point what is the smp if not like eight companies fucking killing it and everybody else yeah the mp might turn out to be a bad example at some point because like you said so much of the recent growth is from i want to say it's seven companies but i might you probably right yeah and uh so i hear you Gold, like you said, is considered a safe haven.

People put their money there. When the rest of the world crashes, you're in a safe place. We'll see. I don't like unproductive assets. I have a bias against them. I'm a productive asset bigot. I mean, I'm glad you're saying this because you have so much more financial expertise because I'm like, yeah, what do you say makes total sense?

And then you're like, but it's always wrong. And I'm like, that's true too. I've been like, why? In like 2015 or 2016, whenever it was, I was like Bitcoin. $5,000 to buy like what I at the time was like what like a Mario star I'm buying Mario stars on the internet

that are eventually that I'm going to eventually sell to some tarred like that's what it feels like I don't know because you can use an example of like everybody who's into Bitcoin makes no they're constantly like invest in Bitcoin buy Bitcoin

this that and it's like well that is what you'd want someone to do if you were already a holder of it but that doesn't that's kind of defeated by like the stock market and insider trading like that's what they do too you get people out there being like oh you really got to buy this stock you got to do this and then it comes out you know a couple years later oh it turns out that senator who was saying all that stuff was a major holder and xyz incorporated and it's it's like oh fuck is our whole financial system just a fiat game just pretend totally not at all tied to real world assets anymore just tied to speculatory value it's too much of it is. Like America typically I think one of America's competitive advantages is honesty, right? Like

it used to be you reported every quarter. Trump wants to change that, but you report every quarter and the SEC would kick your ass if you lied about it. In other countries lying a little more tolerated. Like you get away with that shit in China. They just want good news until

the bottom falls out. And I forget I had two points. Now I have just left with one. but it's like honesty is an advantage yeah the fact that it's not so full of shit oh and the fact that our markets were open right our open markets caused us to compete on a level playing field and what did regan say like you're basically subsidizing inefficient companies when you have protectionist governments you know above that Reagan's gay we all know that well okay but you know you can imagine like Shucks, if you and I both sell scissors, but they tack 20% onto the attacks onto your scissors, well, fuck, I can have lazy employees, I can pay more for my materials, I can, I can still survive and do well because you're being unfairly punished. But eventually, when the iron curtain drops and you see how ridiculous my business practices

are, meanwhile, you're forced to be lean and mean and make a better product or a cheaper product or whatever just to overcome the tariffs we put on you. then if we could become lean and me it's just a markets for me do not supersede the well-being of the citizen like of the people and so like if it makes more money for an American company to outsource they should be like it shouldn't matter like it's not about them making money as much as it is like having a base of productivity here that that people can rely on because what happens when you don't have that is a tremendous amount of civil unrest and it's but But that doesn't ever lead to violence. We haven't seen that thousands of times throughout the street. You didn't get your food stamps this week, okay? Trust in Trump. He's going to take care of us.

Trust. Dude, somebody in the battlefield. Oh, dude, I'm eating my hat on my fucking Argentina take. Did you see this? Yeah, I was like, I was haughty and being like, oh, this fucking retard Trump just gave $20 and then $40 billion to Argentina. when they were like collapsing and I was like a million percent would have bet everything just cocksure I'm like this is just horseshit nonsense not worth it now it's seeming like because he invested in currency swaps and the other half was in buying their debt and ever since that Malay guy I guess in Argentina maybe he's really popular I guess so he just won like now their

currencies up like 15 percent and so now it's looking like Trump bought the bottom of a potentially catastrophic thing and kind of bent him over the barrel. And so I've been talking to a friend of mine who I had an argument about this with a few weeks ago. You all talking on Facebook? I was talking on text. And he was like,

he was saying it wasn't a bad move. And I said, this doesn't make any sense. I don't care about this. I care about America. And he was like, just wait and see. And then he's been texting me like, hey, take a look at the currency.

We just bought some 15%. What do you think about that? And I'm like, yeah, well, you're still gay. You tell everybody on 30, hopefully yet? I don't measure it in two-week periods, though. Let's see where this goes. What about the beef? What about the soybeans?

Where's the beef? Where's the beef? Yeah. I mean, of course it went up in the short term after Trump dumped 20 billion into their country. Like, let's see how they managed their country. It went up after the election. Ooh, injection election, rhyme. Like we said, I think it's too early to see how this.

This isn't even half time. At this point, I'm eating my hat on it, and I was wrong. You weren't wrong. I could still be wrong. I could still be right, though, actually. What about the soybeans and the fucking beef? I saw a video of China the other day. Like, we don't need your America beef.

We have Australian beef. It's better and cheaper. Thank you, America, for new cheap, delicious beef. And it's literally a girl with, like, with, like, Australian-stamped beef at the grocery store. Dude, we are, we totally control China just by the fact. that we are their largest export partner. Like we're the ones you get to set the terms. We're the bell of the ball, bro.

How much? Oh, who do they go? I'm sorry. Where did they go to for their net exports, if not the United States? What's the name of that other super powerful country that has like, what, 30% of the global consumer market? What's the name of that country? It seems like they're diversifying. Oh, they can't. I don't see. That helps us. There's a reason that they're not. What are they not buying

soybeans from us? Yeah, they completely gave up on that. They upgraded Brazil's, I think, infrastructure. structure like one of the they were pretty good at growing it but they weren't very good at shipping it it and putting on trains and they didn't have the ports and stuff and china invested in them to make them a better trading partner and then ditched us invested in brazil i think i might be i might be fucking it up might be like venezuela or something i don't know you could be right yeah but it's south america i was going to say like isn't brazil always so unstable with stuff

but i mean if it could have been venezuela too they're kind of notoriously because we just want regime change in Venezuela that seems to be the main driving force who has the largest oil reserve Venezuela don't believe who look every time you we look into this that we find and and constantly on Reddit I see news reports the new largest oil reserve in the world found and it bounces back between Antarctica the North Pole it's not a country um I didn't say it was the locations the North Pole, Alaska, Saudi Arabia, or

some offshore place. It's like, I think there's so much oil. That's why I always, it's, they lied to us. This fucking environmentalist, fucking hippie bitches lied to us. They're like, we're going to be out of oil in 50 years. 100 tops.

Oil made sense, but then we keep discovering. Like, I heard it. They're like, hey, we keep discovering oil and then there's discoveries. This is the most oil we'll ever have, And it's going to be a declining, like the supply of it is going to shrink and shrink and shrink over time. The price will go up and up and up. And it really made a lot of logical sense between my years.

And then whatever, 10 years later, I'm like, oh, it hasn't started yet, has it? And we keep finding more. And new techniques to find it and new techniques to acquire it. Apparently Canada has a solid thing. I think it said Saudi Arabia had the second largest oil supply in the world. And then Canada has the third. But they don't drill it. like Saudi Arabia does.

And he was talking about all the benefits Saudi Arabia has that Canada does and making this argument that they should be an oil exporting country. And it made sense to me by the time I finished watching the video, but I don't know any real facts. I mean, it looks like the oil and gas journal and the environmental impact assessment, which who's to say, but they say it's Venezuela at number one, then Saudi Arabia, then Iran, then Canada, then Iraq. and we are down there at 9

kind of embarrassing to be below Kuwait. The challenge with America is our oil is like it's always in shale like other people dig a hole and it comes shooting out of the ground on its own covering all the other actors in the commercial and then America it's like yeah you have to knock over the side of this mountain and squeeze it and process it

if oil drops below this like high price we can't make a profit on it and they're like oh it's not the same So we got to keep that price high. We've got to tell people we're running out. Yeah, one way or another. We've got to go, oh, whoa. Libya, Iraq, Iran?

Libya, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela? What? Those are four of the countries that didn't have a sense of the bank until recently. We're not running out of oil. We've got so goddamn much oil. There are hundreds of years worth of oil. I don't care about the environment. I don't care anymore.

I don't care. All right, all right, I care a little bit. You should care. But what I don't care about is the climate change nonsense. I don't believe it. I don't believe that humans are impacting it severely enough to fucking worry about. Now, if you want to tell me the sea is getting dirty, the air is getting dirty, the river's poison. Oh, no, stop all that.

But I'm not going to try to hit your fucking temperature numbers by sacrificing my fucking straw or by, like, eating vegan. Kyle, we have to. We have to. We can't be drinking out of plastic straws. need to have a weird composite of industrial glue and cardboard that we drink out of to save the world.

I don't have a better answer than straws. And I do recognize that everything I've used that isn't a plastic straw sucks. Dog shit. Metal straws are good, but then they're a pain to clean. They suck in a different way. It imparts a little bit of there's a little metallicness to it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So I'll give you that. It's a low quality straw you have. Not surprised. I mean, I bought it on Amazon. How could it be low quality? What I do is I buy... My stainless still. I buy bold plastic straws. Single-use plastic straws do seem like polluty, wastey nightmare.

They all end up somewhere. Like single-use plastics in general, it look like something. Maybe if we could find something better, we should switch. You don't want to have thought about doing. We're just like small potatoes country doing that. Like other countries are fucking ruthless with the environment stuff. I go through a ton of aluminum cans, and I was thinking about it the other day, because I was thinking about getting one of those can crushers and crushing my cans into cubes.

But then I was like, what do I do with the cubes? They're just going to recycle them. And I thought about melting them down and making blocks of aluminum. And I started doing the math. I drink about a pound of aluminum month. I mean, I don't drink the aluminum, but I throw away a pound of aluminum cans. How many cans to make? I don't have that formula in my head anymore, but I looked it up.

I looked at about how many grams per can, and then I roughly, I drink like eight cans a day. So, you know, you do the math. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. And there's no issues so far. But I'm thinking about doing it. The whole thing is like $250. You need like this little... I looked into this, I think you're wasting out on 50 cents a month.

Yeah, it's... That's $6 a year. It'll only take 175 years to pay for itself. Okay? I did. Google it. That's what it says. It actually said 50 to 70 cents a month. Based on what, though? I asked how much a pound of aluminum from cans was worth.

Oh, how many cans does it take to make a pound? That's the question we need. Because I don't remember my math. Or, you know what you could do with the aluminum is you can make it molten? 32 to 35. Have you ever seen the people that fill the underground aunt column? colonies with the aluminum you could do something like that that would be sick I think I've seen it with lead but not aluminum I'm sure aluminum works too yeah like lead would I think that was I think it is

aluminum that you that we've seen is it I would think so I would just think that like lead would just be heavy as fuck that would be so difficult to pull that out of the ground and it's so soft that it that it would you would think it would deform maybe it is let oh metal that's not helping molten metal Wait, did he say, oh, you mean you don't just cram solid pieces down? It says it was aluminum. I'm sorry. I hate

it when people correct me and they're the ones that are wrong and that's what I did. Okay, so it takes 30 cans to make a pound. I drink about legit, like at least five a day. That's definitely the, so 150. So that's five pounds a month.

And how much is, how much is aluminum per pound? probably not rate dollar I think that can aluminum might be worth less yeah all right well don't don't be nitpicking Woody all right my bad my bad I'm sorry let's assume this is

pure great aluminum so it's only worth less as cans but I'm going to smelt it down into pure bars of aluminum yes and then you're going to take that right to the aluminum store where are you going to where you're going to go fucking where do they buy aluminum rent a center this you've never Oh, so this is like, there was a brief period in my life when I had my driver's license during the time when I first got my driver's license and before I had any way of acquiring any real amount of money where I was like, just anybody who would let me clean the scrap

from their farm or their yard or their like field, I would take my dad's truck and trailer and I would go get your old plow, your junkie car, and I would scrap it. And I was making, like, enough money as a 17-year-old to, like, be doing just fine. Like, I had, like, I had $700 in my pocket, Taylor. But that's, but you're, you were scrapping, like, steel, like, high-quality shit. So, so, but at the same place, you can do that other stuff. Like, that's where people who steal, like, cables and wires, that's where they take them. They take them to, like, the scrapyard where you would, you know, they crush the cars down and shit like that.

Is there any responsibility on those scrapyards? Like if some wild-eyed guy shows up with two different sized pupils and a truck full of tubing There's still drywall dust on it. Yeah, there's a little on us on them to not take clearly stolen stuff.

Like what I was told one time is they're not allowed to take specifically railway steel. So what I had done is went to the railroad tracks and I was like, there's free steel everywhere here. Now these were abandoned railroad tracks, mind you.

I didn't go to the fucking local, like, train station and start pulling out. We got to get out of here. There's a 4.30. Come on. They're coming. We got to get out of here. It's going to be a mess. You kill 180 people for $7.

What were you taking? Were they the spikes? Oh, no. No. Whole, like, there were, um, there were these big chunks. And I think what they do is they like, I'm sorry, my alarm's going on. I think what they do is they like hold like junctions together or something and then the spikes like go through them or something. Maybe they went around the ties.

Anyway, huge chunks of railway steel. It wasn't the long beams and it wasn't the spikes, but it was like some like joining like junctional type thing. But we had a bunch of it because like there it was. And we were we already had the truck and trailer there. And I'm just like, load it up, boys. like we were already I think we were buying cross ties like railroad ties for

some landscaping shit but I was like steal all that steel while we're here and so I did and when I got it there the guy was like we're not supposed to take that stuff and I'm like not that much of it and he's like yeah there's not is there

and that was it I was like no more of that though And that was it. He took it. Don't come back here with a rail. You got your 11 bucks. No, like we were, I don't, I think, it felt like a, if I remember correctly, a car was like, I don't know, almost $200, something like that. And like, we'd find a couple cars a week. A whole car?

Yeah, like a destroyed car that rednecks have the woods full of. Even with the engine in there, $200. I remember correctly. It's been a long time ago. It seemed like it was like $10 a $10 for 100 pounds. Maybe it was a dollar a pounders. It's been so long ago, I don't remember the map. But it was a couple hundred dollars.

Definitely not a dollar a pound for a car if you're making $200. No, maybe it was a dollar for a hundred pounds, something like that. It was maybe I think what had happened was the price had actually gone up. There was something about Chinese steel and maybe the price was normally 10, but now it was like 16 and we were like, getting's good. and like me and Scott had a little junk business there for a while where like after a while we were taking things and dad was like hey, where's my hay baler at? I'm like, ah, you never going to bail any hay anyway. Like that thing was broke and he's like, you didn't scrap my bailer, did you?

I'm like, it was heavy, daddy. I'll give you $70. he said something like that yeah yeah he didn't want it anymore he wasn't going to do anything with it yeah I scrapped everything and he also ended up with his whole farm like cleaned of any scrap metal

and everyone within a 25 mile radius did too yeah I've never done any scrapping scrapping it didn't even work in fantasy it didn't even work when Kramer and Newman tried it so I doubt it works

I think that's based on a true story I mean what the most boring story ever told I don't remember the specifics but I think they got like in trouble I think it's illegal to do that to transport that many bottles well I think it's Michigan that has the like extra good exchange rate like it's like 20 cents instead of five or something 10 instead of five yeah okay

and says it on sodas I see and so like I think I don't remember the specifics but I think there was a real story and they got in some sort of trouble or they stopped them or took their cans away or something I don't know I won't be scrapping my cans if I do anything with them at any point it'll be saving them and then pouring them

into a termite mound or an ant hill something like that I'll smel oh you're going to need a smelting set out I'm going to lose my ass on the shipping sending you I'm delivering you gave me all your trash like I just want the kids

just tick through it there's a There's at least eight or ten of them in there. They're all sticky. There's bees. I'm sending full cans in the mail. In that Seinfeld episode, they were like cracking can. They were like drinking them. They're like, come on, drink another one, drink another one.

Like, this is not how economics works. Like, we're not. Unless they got all those sodas for free. There was no way. Those are the most degenerate people in the world, by the way. The people who steal copy. wiring and aluminum and stuff like that out of like people's yeah like like like they will ruin someone's business to get $37 worth of copper so they can go get high oh yeah I know they were doing

it at poultry farms because poultry farms chicken chicken houses are like 500 feet long like I've said before and you can imagine there's some wires in there that run from one end to the other and so if you're quick about it you can grab one in and start ripping it down and have 500 feet of cable really quick but the cost to the farmer is exponentially greater like getting it replaced is going to be it's going to be thousands and thousands of dollars that you just did and so like i i heard farmers being like i catch him down and we'll kill them we'll kill them there won't be no warnings won't be no warning shots you know they're trying to ruin their business for their hot and then like there's no like it's literally you're right it's just like heroin addicts and

junkies like no no oceans 11 style team has ever constructed to do that extra bad because their return is so bad like if you steal a hundred dollars cash from me at least you got a hundred dollars if you steal seven thousand dollars from me and you get 37 it's like you are willing to do so much pain for one high you would have killed me for an extra 10 if I were there you would have murdered me and, like, taken some, you know, what you thought was an earring and ended up being nothing. I hate those people. I hate those people.

Yeah, they suck, dude. They're, you can't abide. We heard tons of stories of people's, like, farming stuff, getting ruined generators and stuff. I think, I think maybe in a generator, there's some sort of magneto or some sort of, like, big chunk of copper in there. Again, probably worth $35,000, but it's a $25,000 generator or something like that. like so many stories like that of them again just doing a huge amount of damage for just a small little return and what the scrapyards should be prosecuted like we said earlier for doing

business with those people not not not good little kids like me though I'm wondering should our frustration be aimed up equally like if someone has 40 billion or a hundred billion dollars like they've taken more than they've given I don't know it's something about that seems like too much as well but they don't rip the copper out of your walls at least they're gonna kill you they're playing a game that that's a little bit rigged and they're playing it to the best of their

they will have you slave away for 40 60 hours a week on salary while they get what you earn in a year in their first 10 minutes yeah oh I'm not this isn't a defense of billionaires. Like they're also the same class of people fucking over middle and working class Americans to hire slaves and agitate to have a bunch of indentured servants imported. So like they're not

innocent. Like they've always behaved that way. Since the beginning of time. But viscerally it's much more easy to be like this person who would offer a direct threat to my safety and my loved one's safety in order to secure a high, which makes them a less rational actor.

You know, even though the billionaire has more influence, they're not likely to do that. Like if If a billionaire kills you, it's going to be transitively by, like, agitating to have a bunch of Haitians brought here to be slaves and then a Haitian kills you. It's not going to be him. They'll convince you climate change is fake and make you behave that way. It's not real. It's not real. And that the government can solve it.

And all you need, Kyle, is to consume less and the government will solve. If it were real, you're telling me we have the power to change it and make it go back the other way. Then go terraform bars. Do that first. Kyle, I mean, I think they deserve one more chance. There's no hole in that are you? fool me a hundred and seventy one times shame on me dude i was reading climate change articles from like because you can like go to google and like put in the end date of it and you could like look up

1971 because i was like what were they saying 20 years before and it was like kind of the burgeoning beginning of that and they were like peak oil is 1977 and it's like wow these people they that wasn't a mistake they knew they were lying when i was a kid the climate change that they scared us over was another ice age. It wasn't global warming. It was ice age. It was water world. And I switched it. Their predictions would be right sometimes. Like, it would have some that were bangers. You wouldn't have every head of it. And now it's failed so badly as far as catalyzing people

who have been told, and it's always middle and working class people who are told you can't use as much power. We can, but you can't. And that's failed to catalyze so much that now even like their biggest boosters like what's her name Greta Thunberg are like yeah we're not doing that shit anymore now we're doing Israel like now we've moved on I go both ways on her side with this one

sure we consume a lot less of electricity than a business does but we're not creating AI or smelting sand into glass around the house either of course we're consuming less electricity it's just a wooden shell designed to keep warm and cool we're not producing things here that takes a lot of

energy. Sure. We should all have nuclear reactors in every fucking town. That's what we should have. The military's, I don't know if they already created it or if they're working on a new version of it. They're making those like mini nuclear reactors that they can move around. There's no money in boondoggle spending

from the government to create actual energy. What they need is to convince retards that windmills in Kansas are like the solution. It's like not using the magic rocks that we just go to create energy. I bet St. Louis could be powered by, like, a few pounds of uranium or something. Like, that fucking, those, so aircraft carriers don't have, don't just have one nuclear reactor.

They have two. I learned that the other day. They have two fucking nuclear reactors. That's hardcore. I always heard that they had, like, a golf ball worth of fuel. Like a golf ball worth of fuel lasted for, like, three years or something like that. In aircraft carrier, that blew me away that it's supporting a city of five. thousand continuously because that so many people are on board that motherfucker

yeah like all are and and the other golf ball is moving that city yeah yeah exactly um and it's like why don't we just have a golf ball of power in every single city heating water up and it's so obvious like has there ever been a more obvious thing of like what the energy type of the future is when you picture um like humanity assuming no cataclysmic you know go geple teppy or whatever like collapse back to nothing like how do we imagine us powering ourselves to the stars it's like nuclear it's like something high tech it's something that's dense and easy to to just shove in a basement somewhere on your ship it's not having a bunch of windmills it's not like i saw elan musk post some retarded shit where he's like did you know that if we use this small area in kansas

full of solar panels we could power the entire country and it's like that's thousands of square miles like yeah but what happened but at least kansas isn't known for the type of natural disaster that could destroy america's power structure okay well how about new mexico and then we're fine like like the same thing but i'm i promise you i've been in new mexico i've been on that blm land dude solar isn't efficient enough to compete with nuclear it's not even close to efficient enough look i don't california spent two billion dollars on a big solar farm and it didn't pay for itself and it wasn't creating enough energy so they shut it down nuclear is the fucking key dude that's the future

I get that you're full of confidence but I'm not sure it makes you right right there's some problems with nuclear it's definitely the most expensive kind of energy we have because of regulation you could say all right well that's because of regulations okay that's a great idea let's have unregulated

nuclear power plants just let these capitalists go fucking wild with whatever they want to do all that safety bullshit all those highly qualified welders that put it together Fuck that. We'll grab some Mexican illegal immigrants. They'll weld it up as best they can with their fucking snot welds and we'll have cheap nuclear energy. That's the plan. It's really good. And their oversight that's really. Also, there's more. If you want a power plant and you make it nuclear, you're like 25 years before you get your first kilowatt from that thing. If you want a power plant and it's solar or it's wind, you're like six to 12 months away from that hang off. Because they're faster and easier to put. subsidies. The answer, the actual answer is not. Nuclear is not slow to like develop and instill and get going because of subsidies. Nuclear is slow because it's complicated. That's not how I intended to phrase it. The reason that solar and wind are perceived to be cheaper is because there are enormous subsidies that come along from the federal government when setting up solar and wind farms. There are not enormous subsidies that depress the cost when it.

comes to nuclear power plants because again this is a boondoggle they do not want cheap power for everyone these people in these positions they want to spend 10 billion dollars on windmills that will be torn down and then require replacement in another eight years like they want that and so if you go I'm going to start a I'm going to start a solar or I'm sorry if I'm going to start a nuclear power plant there are no government agencies writing checks for me to do that there are no subsidies to cover the cost of getting opened if I say the same thing about solar. There's a new technology. Yeah, we do have to go. We're out of time. I need to eat. But yeah, it's not this like cheap, simple thing that we wanted to be.

I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. Taylor's right. I don't know. You're out voting. Taylor's wrong. That was wrong. I was so voted. 584.