Painkiller Already - PKN 585

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

P.K. N. 585. We were just talking about Georgia's blowout of Florida. 2420, did it? Maybe. Immigating victory. How do they share the same field? Teams. Ballast destruction. Yeah, I was watching the end of that, like, I wasn't watching the game. I just was looking at the box score on my phone, pulling it up from time to time.

And I was like, this is one of those that if Georgia loses, I'm going to not text the scorebox to Kyle, because this seems like it might upset him. He's seen it. Let's give him a little bit time. I wonder if Kyle knows about, yeah, he knows. He knows. Were they leading most of the time? It was tied to halftime.

Okay. Yeah, we're into that. Just about tied at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was closer than it should have been. But I think they'll maintain their number five position in the country. The Eagles did not have a close call. No. They, oh.

that's a win the guys are getting healthy they're feeling good they're yeah i think they're six and two something like that it has been a fine season i've been watching the broncos man the broncos are the fourth quarter team of the nfl every game they are down and out in the fourth quarter and every time they just come back and humiliate they live at altitude no one else is it's like some sort of enhancing stadium yeah they got the Denver's been known for that since I was young, you know, coming back in the fourth quarter, having the strongest fourth quarter. It happens to their basketball team, too. The basketball team, their jerseys say 5,280 on it to remind everyone what the altitude is where they're playing. I like it. What's an even higher altitude city? I guess we don't have any big enough to have a team.

Mexico City, I think is very high too. I don't know if it's higher than. We're not going to let them in the NFL, though. I don't think they care. We'd let them, man, if they want to. No, football is huge in Mexico. Yeah, but it's soccer football. They're soccer football. Yeah, I know. They probably have a team that, like, had, like, a really good kicker. And then just a bunch of, like, five-foot-eight Guatemalans getting rag-dalled by some corn-fed Husker boy.

You just know the details of the field goal rules change? I think, does it have anything to do, or is this always been a rule where it can't go, like, above? the top of the spires or whatever, it has to, like, be visible through it. There's some rule change that's making it easier to kick long field goals. And the NFL record was tied just like on Sunday. And, uh, or it might have been Monday, but it doesn't matter. I thought it was, didn't he kick one like 63 or 67, something nutty?

It's 68. And I thought it was tied, but the guy was in a discord call with at the time said, oh, that's actually a tie. That's my source. It's not like I'm going off, you know, ESPN or something. The guy I listened to said that they were kicking them further because they're doctoring the balls, something about they get to do something with their,

they get to like hand, like they get to do stuff to the ball that they kick. Like, like that doesn't go. Yeah, now the teams are in charge of like holding the balls the whole time. So, you know, let's see. The NFL field goal change for the 2025 is the K ball rule, which allows teams significantly more time to prepare kicking balls, resulting in more pliable balls and longer field goals.

Under the new rule, the teams received 60K balls at the start of the season and prepare them throughout the week instead of just a 90-minute window. This has led to a record number of field goals of 60-plus yards. Yeah, when that much money's on the line, there's no telling what fucking scientists they brought in to doctor that pig skin. You'd overfill it for this, right? I don't know what you do. I think, but I don't know.

I don't know either, but it's 60. They've got a lot of breathing room on these. It seems like a lot because there's no way the ball is only good for one kick. No, no, no. That would be crazy, right? Yeah, it seems like the kick would be like, oh, this is all reliable. So they give them 60 balls, they doctor them all, get the best one, and then start tying records. I don't like it that much.

I don't think field goals should be getting hit from 68 yards away. you basically make it I think you add 17 like 17 for the end zone and whatever so you make it to the 50 yard line and now you can score don't they start farther now too at like the 25 or something all you got to do is pick up 25 yards and you're in scoring right yeah as a casual watcher of football I agree in that touchdowns are just more fun than kicking a field goal and it's kind of boring when it's just like oh yeah they got to the 45 and you know they could go for it here because it's you know fourth and two but uh no they're just going to they're going to kick it or the they should make it harder to kick get more touchdowns it should be an uncomfortable ball the kickers should have to know that one in every ten balls was lead was like a like a lead ball and so they go in tentatively oh it's dangling off jim terrible then they would just you got the boom ball you hate to see it ratings of skyrocketed but this is not our sport gym you imagine the close up on the kicker's

eyes right before he kicked a ball that was a 10% chance of killing him it would be like the like the simpson's slow mo the football guy getting crippled yeah no they're definitely knocking the balls somehow that i don't know what you do they're probably mushing them in some way or conditioning the leather in some way i'm sure that like the first instinct is to say they're put helium in it but there just wouldn't be enough of a difference to fucking matter it's it's it's not even a gram it's a it's such a small amount of weight you would and I don't I think you might want it heavier like maybe they're putting something heavy in there maybe they're soaking the ball in water like I don't know what they're doing maybe you want it to be stiff overinflated under inflated

I think they checked for inflation after the Tom Brady stuff I think they check the pressure of all the balls I don't know if you remember playing soccer and gym class and whatnot like the balls you could really launch where the like to the point of bursting over stuff like yeah or over inflated and so I just don't get why they're maybe I'm sure there's an art to it they've got some some eggheads back there because they're like oh we really push it to the limit but now he's got distance but no accuracy to speak of when I think about things that are efficiently hit like baseballs kind of are golf balls especially are foam balls or not right so that just makes me think you want something that's closest to a pool ball is possible

Ish. Maybe not a kicking. I went too far, but like work with me. Yeah, yeah. I think you want it to squish and then give violently. Like I saw those running shoes that are carbon fiber or something and like they took the shoe. He was holding the shoe and he put it on the ground and he sort of bent it the way as if he was putting weight on the toe and he pushed the heel like over the top. And then he released and it was like a spring. It went boing and like jumped forward six or eight feet. And then he did it with a Nike and it just fell. over because it's a team because it's a fucking tennis shoe like like the shoes that they're wearing to like run are like spring loaded machines they're wearing for their feet yeah they're illegal shoes like you're not allowed to wear the best sneakers in marathons and I guess now the game is to wear something as close to an illegal shoe that's not illegal I don't know what the boundary is I don't know that seems ridiculous I saw a great story about this ultra marathon guy um he'd never competed in an ultra marathon before he was i think either 50 or 60 it's one of those right and uh he entered into this 150 mile

race um and everybody thought he was a joke because he'd never ran ever anywhere but what they didn't know is he was a sheep herder and i guess when you sheep when you heard sheep you like run with them for sometimes days at a time and so the race began and this guy and his his run looks weird too it's like this little like very low effort like fast run jog thing and he doesn't look like a runner he's an old like country boy he didn't know you sleep in these things so he just kept going he ran for five days straight one the race meet all the best runners in the world and set a new record by like he either one by 10 hours or he set a new record by 10 hours i don't know not sleeping like that he didn't sleep at all he ran for five days straight everybody else is taking you know

one of his friends is like, you know, it's not so much that he's a good sheep herder, it's that he's a terrible dog trainer. So, you know, he really had to be that's really neat. I want to see that video now. Jack and I would like it. I am not getting sleep

anymore. The pups all night. It's worse than just puppies. One of our puppies has a urinary track infection. So for the last two nights, I've been on the couch, waking up every 90 minutes letting her outside. And I'm still cleaning up the floor from time to time.

It's hardwood floor. It cleans up fairly well. But like today wasn't as bad. She's on antibiotics now and getting better. But is there such a thing as a sleep emergency? Is that what you're happening right now? 9 a.m. yesterday.

Jackie, like, she took the dog to the vet. So I had to watch the other one. And then she came back. And it was like 10.30 a.m. or something. And I'm desperately need and it. And I, it just doesn't seem like. like sleep is ever an emergency. You can be tired. You can pull an all-nighter. Fifty-two-year-olds don't pull all-nighters for a reason. I've discovered what that is. And I'm like, I need sleep

stat. And that's a terrible time to need a nap is 10.30. Because it's like, oh, I'm really buying myself into a bunch of difficult days if I sleep right now. But the prospect of like, do you ever do that math where you're like, you know, if I could make it to seven, 15, p.m. Yeah, that's a weird time to fall asleep if you're not a toddler, but I can make that work. Like, you just try and bargain with yourself. Then you get to seven o'clock and you're like, if I can get nine, I can like go back to normal almost. Right. Yeah. I go to bed. I, when I was housebreaking Murphy, it was the same thing. And Toby, I slept on the, with Toby, I didn't sleep in my bed for months. I slept downstairs on the couch with Toby to keep him from pissing on the

fucking carpet. So he slept with me and like right next to me. And if he got up for any reason. I was like, oh, got a tea, huh? All right, here we go. Here we go. He's like, no, I was just stretching. Too bad. We're going to pee. And so you would keep me up all night long. We'd get up four or five times throughout the whole goddamn night. And then like you said, by 10.30 the next morning, if my girlfriend had to work or whatever, I'd be like, I need sleep. I need sleep. I'm going insane here. I don't feel like myself. Like my brain, I could feel like this brain fog that's just and I'm mad. And I'm not just mad. I'm mean. And there's a dead. difference.

You're grounded. Yeah. When you're mad, you're short-tempered. When you're mean, you're begging somebody to say the wrong thing. I wish you would smart off to me. I wish you would walk on my door while I try to get this three hours of sleep because I'm ready to fucking pop. I'm ready to say some mean-ass shit that I can't take back when I'm that sleepy.

I hate being in those moods where you're so tired. You're just like agitated. Because it's a bad time to have, yeah. It just takes you get one email. you don't even like that guy anyway asking for you to send him something you already sent him he's gonna get all peeved

yeah did you ever kennel train him Kyle like no no I don't I don't like that we did with Dak or with Toby a little bit but I didn't like locking him up in there and he's in there like a little prisoner

like he looks like one of those people in the box at Guantanamo Bay he's just like what do I do wrong so like I don't know I kind of like the way I did it where I just sacrifice my sleep for his comfort and he gets house trained that way we've tried crate training too and our experience match kiles you know i know some people the dogs like the crate they go in the crate with the door open they just hang there it's their safe spot that we've never pulled that off

we've only had dogs that hate the crate and makes sense and like you know we would like go to work during the day there's a long time ago and uh come home and the dogs are like filthy they've pooped in the crate. They had nowhere else to go. It's a real yucky situation. The goal was to get him out of the crate ASAP. When I first got DAC, we tried to do the crate thing because the trainer told us to do the crate thing. And he had had a crate. We've left him in that crate and we went to the grocery store and we came straight back. We were gone two hours tops. He had shit in that box. And then he had done like circles inside it at rapid Belgian Malinlaw speed. Yes. And he had covered and I can still remember me and kitty like I was like you want to watch the kennel or you

want to watch the dog she's like really thought about it she's looking back and forth it dog and I'm this outside washing this kettle go oh the kennel's a better job I think stand away and hose it yeah I think it depends on the equipment you have but I feel like I could wash the kennel and get 90% clean from six feet away. Another thing is like the kennel training, uh, some people leave their dogs in there way too fucking long. And like,

I think that's why they shit like or, you know, they're just early into it because I've had dogs where like they did what you described Woody were like the doors just left open and we would like drape like a blanket on top of it to create kind of like a little bit of a den feel. And then like you put a bed in there and they would just on their own be like, you know, I'm kind of tired of the carpet. I want to go to my little.

safe area or if they ever got stressed if a dastardly mailman came by the door aggressively and not too hard they could go oh that's a little rich for my blood that's a little too much activity i'm going to go hide out for a minute and so as long as they it's used that way and i think a lot of that is whether you train them with it as a punishment or as like uh all right i have to go to the store this is where you stay until i get back from the store because i think if you do it like oh you know oh you fucked up you pooped in the house well guess what now you're at prison for four hours like yeah they're gonna hate it then i understand the logic of what you're saying i know i didn't punish them with it they just hated being locked up they were labs

their own little personalities too yeah labs i've only seen it all the dogs i've had that liked the kennel were like little lazy fluffy dogs little tobo liked the kennel when i was a kid how much that dog way 15 15 you said you got a lion cut you got a little simbo It's hard to tell. Let me see if he's like short back here. Everything's like shaped really short and then he's got like a big mane in the front. Very festive. Our dog's weigh 25 each now. He's already winning.

Carried two at a time. Like it's getting to be a thing like carrying him down the stairs. I'm one gummy deep. Wait, so the one with the UTI is probably waking up the other one. every time it's getting up right I it's collective you know I turn the light on I take them outside okay yeah that those two are never separated actually I would estimate they're like touching each other for at least a third of their life like they're just never apart it's they're always on top of each other snuggling cuddle in wrestling

they are two and a piece and a pot yeah so Fuzzy and Teddy were like they would get on the couch sometimes and then just like put their like they'd just create like a V where like their butts would be touching or like their launches and then like the other they'd be looking in other directions because they're just you know little dogs who are always like oh what's going on you look over there I'll look over here I mentioned how it's hard to carry two of them sometimes I just don't I grab one and go somewhere and the other one's like what the fuck I'm coming I'm coming soon it's going to be not carrying any of them because they'll be 85 pounds yeah yeah my daughter has

a young dog to call it five months and they have a harness on it and with like a grip on me between his shoulder blades meant to like guide the dog with and if you pull it it kind of like tucks up under their armpits and it's like a almost like a bridle with a horse or something like he responds to it and it's not cruel we might try something like that for big dogs those are a good solution i'd never i've only mostly had small dogs and it's kind of unnecessary for them but like you really don't want a giant dog with one of those like choke collar is that what it's or a pinch collar what are those things that like they're made of metal and when they try and they're like spiky on the end like spikes into them a choke collar something like that man I really I really do

not like those I've seen those at dog parks and it's like we weren't public like get a real collar for your dog that's like he's probably got a little I go both ways on it because like so I saw a YouTube short that changed my mind. And here's what happened. He's like, I saw these collars. And they look like angry, mean BDSM devices or something. And I just love my dog too much to give him one. So what do I do instead?

I gave him a regular collar. He pulled. He choked himself constantly. He got walked so much less than he otherwise would. I finally gave in and got the pokey collar. Now he heals. I walk him all the time. He spent so much more time.

His whole life has been upgraded by him now behaving. and he wouldn't behave without the collar. I'm like, ah, I see it. Oh, I get it. And that's probably, I'm sure it's totally true. My dislike of those collars is not rational in any way. It's purely emotional. I just see it.

And I'm like, that seems mean. But I'm also not someone who owns giant dogs. Right. I never had a giant dog. I've never had a dog. I couldn't just like, yeah. Or a dangerous dog. Which no one did really own a dangerous dog.

Like, you shouldn't. I mean, what kind of dog I can know? he wasn't supposed to be dangerous you turn in your handgun I'll turn over my pit bull I don't know pit bulls are more dangerous imagine if you're like

imagine if your gun like got out sometimes you're like wait a minute you check the drawer it's gone oh well officer I took it to the gun park and it got off the leash and then it got on my holster

and went on a randage Into that school. Those littler guns enticed it. Into blowing them under my cannon, blowing them up. Yeah. Did you guys watch even one second of the World Series? Not a second. I watched a replay.

Yeah, it's over. I just went to Game 7. I watched the replay of the ninth and tenth and maybe 11th innings of the game 7 because the title of the video was. like the most heartbreaking world series loss of all time because like the Blue Jays had opportunity after opportunity and lead after lead to close it out and bring the the championship to fucking Canada,

which, you know, we don't care for that here. You know, we don't need all that. It'd be a bad look. I'm glad the Dodgers won, I guess. I'm pretty sure I picked them preseason because I remember Chis being like, oh, that's a, that's a long odds bet, ha, ha, ha, because they were probably favored or whatever,

but they won nonetheless. Yeah, a lot of teams of baseball. They repeated, right? I thought they won last year. That's what I thought, but I'm low confidence. They did.

I blocked it out of my memory permanently, like some sort of momentum. What's that movie where he's erasing? Oh, the, the Jim Carrey movie where he's like erasing the memory of that love he had

that he lost, something of a spotless mind. Eternal sunshine of a spotless mind? Eternal sunshine of a spotless mind. Eternal sunshine of a spotless mind. Eternal sunshine of a spotless mind. I haven't seen that, but I knew the title. It's really good.

He had like the love of his life and it went bad and it was this traumatic, painful event. And then he did this thing to erase that memory, the entire memory of her from his mind. But the memories are coming back and he doesn't remember not wanting to remember. So he's going after it. He's trying to recover these memories and it's this whole thing. Do you remember a click, the Adam Sandler movie with the remote? Yeah. I remember, I don't remember, maybe it was a friends, a couple friends I went and saw that with. I feel like 2006 is when that came out. And it was Adam Sandler. And so I was very much like, this is going to be like Waterboy. Like this is going to be a movie like Waterboy or, you know, Billy Madison or one of these ones that I think are very funny, Mr. Deeds, in that vein. I was a good age for all those movies. And then I watch it and like, it's maybe halfway through where I'm like, I don't think this is going to get funny. I'm really. really feeling sad for Adam Sandler.

He's now he's almost in a, oh, oh, he fast forward. How much time did he lose there? Oh, because if you haven't seen it, anyone out there, he uses a remote that he got from Bedbath and from the Beyond section of Bedbath and Beyond to fast forward little bits of his life. But the sneaky, maybe it was Morgan Freeman or some other, or the guy who had the watch in his ass and Pulp Fiction, one of those guys was God. Christopher Walken.

And they didn't tell him at first, like, it's going. to learn your behaviors and predict itself or whatever and then he starts fast forwarding all the boring parts of his life and it starts auto fast forwarding for him all the things it learned and so like he was just like going to bed and then waking up or like sitting at dinner and then the little fuzzies would appear and then he was four years in the future and by the end he's like at his daughter's wedding for like five seconds being like wait what's going on and then he's like in a deathbed. And I'm like, and I'm like, this is the worst Adam Sandler movie I've ever

seen my entire life. At no point, has you done a silly voice? That was a terrible comedy. It was awful. It wasn't funny at all. It was sad. I haven't seen that one. I saw Adam Sandler with a magical remote control and thought I could probably skip that one safely. Yeah, it was sad. It was sadder than you think. You know, there was like a movie with morals

and lessons. Like, oh, you shouldn't be wishing away, you know, working for the weekend or whatever, living for the weekend. Because you're, you know, most of your life is in between those points. You've got to, you know, embrace the little bits of boring here and there. But then the movie kept going, and I, in my head was like, if I had a remote, I'd fast forward to the end of this movie.

I would get to the end of this because after this, me and my boys are hitting a red robin. You wouldn't. You wouldn't rewind a double whiskey river barbecue burger. You wouldn't rewind a 2011 when Bitcoin was $1.54. I don't remember the rewind rules from Click. But they must have been stringent because otherwise all of that could be, like there wouldn't have been a plot. You could just be like, oh, that was too much. Rewind.

I saw a guy who did that. He didn't use a time machine or anything. He was just lucky or forward thinking. But he bought $10,000 worth of Bitcoin when it was a buck 54, 14 years ago, 2011 or whatever. He cashed it out, all of it. 1.01 or $1.1 billion. Nice for him. A billion.

Have you guys seen the movie? about time. I don't think so. It's on Netflix, or at least that's where I saw it. I watched it twice. I like it a lot. I know the cover looks a little rom-com, right? And I'll admit, it is like 30% gay,

but not as gay as the cover art makes it seem. It's really good. It's super good. I loved it. I wanted Jackie to see it. She loved it. I'm watching random sailing YouTubers like go

across the Pacific this girl comes out of the galley tears pouring down her eyes and she's like about time has no business being that good yeah I mean they must have undersold themselves with the cover because

like if you put me on a island for the rest of my life with a blockbuster in it I would never touch this if that's all I had I would never touch it. It gets two thumbs up from me. I know you're only allowed to give one thumb up.

I need a partner. But Siskel and Ebert would each give a thumb up. Anyway, it's really, really good. About Time is outstanding. I think you'd like it. I think you'd both like it. And I don't often recommend my gay shit to you guys. I think I've seen some of it, or like, at least I know the gist of it.

Is it letters that he's sending back in the mailbox? That's the notebook. Yeah, definitely not. that's a what it does is if he stands in a dark place and concentrates he can go backwards and I think forwards in time but there are certain landmark events that you can't undo and uh that is like you know everyone has these time travel rules that's the one that makes things consequential you know like uh something bad happens and he has to decide should I give up something good to fix something that was terrible, you know, because I can't go forward again after I make

this change. We're going to have to go back to that intersection. And it's, uh, it's a really good movie. I like time travel movies. Yeah. Usually. But it, it gets stupid so fast if they make it OP. And it's hard. You have to invent a million rules around it because if you just use regular time travel, it's too OP. It's like, uh, it's like the end of that Harry Potter movie where, you know, they, what do they have to say like, oh, this only works. once for some reason now. Give it to the basilisk. No, they actually didn't have any explanation

for it whatsoever. They basically said that time turners were held under lock and key at the Ministry of Magic and they were only given to students who excelled and they would use that time responsibly, but it's like that seems like a ridiculous usage for an incredibly powerful time travel,

McGovern, A, and then B, like, I think maybe one or two movies later, they're in the Ministry of Magic and somebody accidentally destroys the entire stock of Tom Turner's, so we can never go back now. J.K. Rowling isn't a great writer. They kept them all

in one room. They kept them all in one, like, box. If I remember correctly, they were in, like, the chamber of secrets or something, not the chamber of secrets. Somewhere at the Ministry of Magic under, like, locking, magical lock and key, and maybe they were in, like, one box or one cupboard or one, they

were stored all together in one place, and they got exploded. Did they, like, interviewed Dumbledore afterward, and he was like that guy from NASA, where he's like, we accidentally destroyed that technology, and it's a very painful process to build it back. We don't have time turners anymore. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he was kind of on the outs with the Ministry of Magic.

They didn't care for him. A bit of a wild card. Dumbled was on me. Has J.K. Rowling? Yes, very much so. No, she's been writing books in Universe for a while. And she also, and she's written stuff out of the universe that didn't do so well. And I think she's heavily involved with, I thought she was,

Murphy, stop that. What are you doing? he's like got the light he's like I like look at the fucking ring light um no she still works by mostly see her on Twitter being a what do they call them a something radical uh trans

exclusive uh truce exclusive radical feminist yeah yeah I uh I thought she wasn't working anymore I wonder why her stuff isn't getting the traction it once did did she only have lightning once or is it because of the turf stuff it looks like she she had lightning a couple

time not quite Harry Potter lightning but she made she wrote multiple books under the name Robert Galbraith in secret and those did pretty well but even that is like a lot of that doing well is like you know the publishers knew who she was like oh yeah they know what's and so like when like Stephen King or like people like J.K. Rowling do that thing where it's like I was sick of being seen as Stephen King and so I started writing as Robert Queen Bachman and Robert Bachman

yeah and those still exploded too and it just proved that like the stories are good and it's like well you know come the guy at the table deciding whether or not to give you a deal for four more books is looking at J.K. Rowling or Stephen King so they know they're like right in the mix and Barnes & Noble is

putting you in the front on that table by the door exactly you're on the fucking like featured this month table right yeah it's not quite this or whatever So I was curious, but the King writing under Bachman, the initial agreement was because King's publisher agreed to publish his works under the pseudonym to get around the industry standard of one book per author per year, notes Quora. But then later on, it seems that I remember there was that story about the fan who discovered it. According to Quora, it is.

One book per author per year per publishing house? That can't be. Who's writing that? who is on Quora writing that I don't know that that does not seem right it seems arbitrary but anyway I I mean you know those Bachman novels did really well right yeah and I read one of them and it was all right you read rage no I started reading rage as a PDF on my phone because they there was nowhere to buy it online and within like maybe 10 pages I'm like you know what this like intentionally written like a 17 year old diary and all the mistakes baked in like good

world building but it's it's just bad it's clunky you know it's deliberately clunky you know it's 17 year olds have perfect spelling this isn't realistic in this like it's not realistic at all look at that that's an improperly used semicolon those are two independent clauses that was dependent depends dependent yeah I want to see that movie they just came out based on the Stephen King novel, is it called the walk or something like that where it's... Oh yeah. The long walk. The long walk. Is it religion based?

No, it's like a it's like a dystopic future where for some reason they have a hunger games like competition where they make these young people walk endlessly until there's only one left. And I think along the way there's like I saw a short, I didn't want any spoilers

although I think what I just told you is the entire plot. But I saw a clip of it where there's one of the the kids is like 30 people died at this hill last year and like they're just snipers shooting the kids as they try to walk down the road so like I oh I thought they die for more natural causes I think Mark Hamill's character from what I understand is some sort of general or mastermind figure and he's like in a truck behind them like being mean maybe murdering them along the way if they fall behind or something I don't know the gist I I I've just seen teasers and stuff yeah I don't

No, no. It's perfect. Stephen King. Really interesting premise. Guarantee it does not satisfy at the end. It's like a bug out of movie theater popcorn. You're still hungry. There's a new hit TV show on HBO. It's called Dairy. I think there's two or three episodes out. I'm going to start watching that. I don't have HBO. I want to get it again. Dairy like it's a miniseries or like this is a documentary about Dairy? No, it's a mini series about the kids from It and Dairy. That show I'm looking forward to comes out this month. I think it's early this month. Was it called pluribus? Yes. A better call song? Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's like three days from now. Is it Apple TV? I'm going to look that up too. That would make sense. They do a lot of really high-brow, sci-fi stuff. That seems to be what Apple has hung their hat on is. Okay.

It's November 7th and it is Apple TV. Was Apple TV, what was that gay-ass show? with the bad dialogue that everyone was raving about the business show Severs? Yeah, it starts with it. Seventh.

Yeah. Is that Apple TV? Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch that, Taylor? I watched a few episodes and it was painful. It was the rhetorical equivalent

of watching someone argue with themselves in the shower. Like, where it was like everyone by necessity knew what the other person was going to say. You went into every engagement, like verbal engagement between the characters, knowing which one you were supposed to believe

was good and bad from the writer's POV. It didn't leave any room for like interpretation. It was so exposition heavy. Did you make it? Probably three or four. I probably made six-ish. And everyone tells me, you were one episode from it getting good.

And I'm like, it was hard to get. They were one episode away from getting me as a viewer. Like, if you've done six hours of content and it hasn't gotten good, yet like that's that's most seasons are many series are eight 10 episodes now maybe 12 if it's some short thing do you imagine episode seven of band of brothers and they're still practicing on curry like that david swimmers they decide instead to track a troop that barely

doesn't leave because the bottom gets dropped it's like that would be the equipment it is a long time yeah seven seven hours of content six hours of content. You should have me hooked. If you haven't, you know, not every piece of contents for everyone, but yeah. I like to get hooked from the beginning. I appreciate it when, when they're able to make episode one, both gripping and interesting and something that makes you want to see more and also have enough exposition there to introduce me to their, their universe and not be clunky. Chernobyl. Well, Chernobyl is a masterpiece. I love Chernobyl. And it's from and lost both did that pretty well. They hooked you early. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't have, they know where they're

going though. All right. So there's three seasons of From out right now, I think. I have every time I see it on my TV, I'm like hmm, do we dip our toes back in this baby? Do we jump back in and see how that guy's doing? She's like, I don't know. I don't know if I can take any more of that.

Are they going to be arguing about the beat production while an 8th McGuffin shows up? Will it be aliens and time travel this year? Are we ever going back to that tower in the woods? When is everyone going to figure out that this kid has been here for 40 fucking years and that's a damn

good sign that we ain't going nowhere. Where are we going to confiscate all the fucking guns here? And when is that fat old white lady going to lose a few, all right? I thought we were starving, big bitch. That I don't like and that I don't appreciate from actors or TV shows when we are in starvation scenarios like with Hurley

and lost. And this guy hasn't lost a pound. We've seen people who go through disasters and you've seen Holocaust victims and stuff. When a fat guy starts starving, he melts. He melts away. of Thrones is another one. Sam Tarley was his name.

Yeah. And he was like, like he was pushing his body to the max. There was that part early on where they're like, just leave him. And the one guy's just, just stay down, fat boy. Take a nice nap. Let the cold take you. And he's like, he's like, yeah, maybe so. You'll let you all you'll do is suffer.

He wakes up in spring because he's fine. But he's sexy. And he's fit. He hibernated like a bear. Well, my Lord. What I did is I found a nice burrow. A little friendly animals. A barrow. I lined it with feathers, kept myself warm.

It was great. What were you guys doing? I have to get to Old Town. It's like you live in the coolest world imaginable, and you want to read fucking queer. Go out there with swords and shields. You're already friend with the cool guys. Like, do your fun stuff. Yeah, that sucked.

And it would also show it would be like, they'd show that he and, And Gilly and his child, like, they'd have exposition. Gilly's like, Sam, we've been traveling with no food for six weeks. So we almost to Old Town. And he's like, yeah. He's like swallowing to it. You know, the corner went straight to Old Town, but we'll miss all the, we'll miss all those Lannisterable Fates. Sam, your son, do you stop foraging for one sick?

It's not a perfect show. but Walking Dead did that great there was one fat chick in the apocalypse situation and Negan is like what is happening here everybody's hungry and fatty over here is watching the food

it's clear what's happening am I the only one that sees this I saw it I read it I saw it Negan that was my favorite little line from that whole show like I only watched the main series not the run on ones but

like because it never is addressed and no one like everyone in rick's circle is literally more afraid of being perceived as rude than like kids getting requisite like nutrition so that they grow past three foot eight because we live in a horrible apocalypse and finally nigan just had to be like guys real talk like here it is she's like i guarantee low on everything we're practically starving he goes starving yeah and by the way you know like mostly it was like beans

legumes like do you know how much of that she was having to force down her gullet I didn't realize I pictured her as cuter and not quite as fast she's like double chitting of his thing is that must be almost ready yeah she's a big girl

yeah too big to be fucking watching my food they shouldn't have put me like I would have wouldn't have taken that job they're like Taylor you're in charge of the food, I'd be like, I know my limits. I'm questioning your leadership right now, sir. Yeah. Whoa, hey everybody,

this guy was about to put me in charge. Of the food. I have to watch it. We're running really low on everything. We're practically starving here. Starving. You. By practically, you mean

not really. she's crying look at this look at you guys really she's 80 pounds overweight he's no fuck Jeffrey Dean Morgan is such a good actor he's the best actor in the whole

well is he he always plays the same character I don't know what else he's in but he played that character well like he is awful there like he's being evil but you can't help but like him like and nighan needed that he the character had to have both he had to be absolutely awful but he had to also be like you like fuck i like i like nigan i like nigan on my screen i don't just like nighan on my screen the way i like joffrey or ramsie on my screen like i like niger i just hate the things he does i don't want to like cut people's hands off and torture people and rape women i i wish you'd stop all that and be cool right

it's like you have an issue with me raping your wife all right now I'm going to burn your face and maim you forever for being rude about me raping your wife because that's fair yeah and then like his soldiers behind him are like yeah I think he's nearing the end of the amount of play we're giving him for that really funny fat lady joke right that was great we all loved that we loved you know we're not coming to correct like that same I liked the king the king was great oh he's okay oh well I just liked his attitude where he was like a theater guy he saw an opportunity to have a good time in a terrible world and he's like equal yeah and i'm i'm having a good time now and he seemed nice to all his

not at all capable as a leader but nice like friendly he seemed naive he would be like yeah i don't know how to make like he was doing well he kept he was paying off nighan his society was well fed and at peace sure he was you know paying his taxes but it was going okay it went a whole lot worse when fucking Rick showed up and was like let's fight back and now they all die the town falls the children are murdered this fucking like 10 kids with their heads on pikes like it didn't go really well yeah that is true like everything was going pretty good and then that rambunctious bunch of eco terrorists led by Rick show up and they're like you mean to tell me you've been paying taxes and you ain't never thought to fight back and they're like no dumb at like like go look at their compound. They got like barbed wire and like 70 guys with real weapons. I'm not a theater. I'm a theater major. You get that right? That tiger

doesn't have teeth. Yeah. You know what I did this morning? You know what he Nican did this morning? He conquered some group of people. You know what I did this morning? I danced alone in my bed in my bedroom with my tiger. I did a soliloquy and I cried to myself. I did a soliloquy and I cried to myself. I mouthed out show tunes because I can't dare let the peasants know. That's what I'm doing with

with my time in the palace. My favorite part, and it's in that same episode with the fat girl, but Niggins, he makes him take the pool table out in the middle of the street and he has a pool game. He has a pool game with the son of the former leader of that community. And the son is like, you know, I'm the guy you

want to know. I should be running this thing just so we're clear. My dad and mom, they built this place. This Rick guy, he's bad news. He's bad news. And Niggins like, let me get this straight. Rick's out there fighting and killing to bring me what I need. He's out there hustling me up some guns and ammo and food. And you're here

talking to me behind his back. Like stabs him in the guts and disembowels him. Wait, wait, wait, you left out my favorite part. He's like, Rick's out there getting food, paying what he needs to, getting it done. You're here asking me to make you the leader. You don't have any guts. And then he stabs him in the knife disembowels him and goes my mistake there they are did you do have guts oh right all right sick line yeah it's hardcore i love geoffrey d'n morgan um and everything i really like i don't mean to ruin the mood but was were we stripes or solids far be it for me yeah no nigan was cool the king was cool by the end i was like rick You just got to go be a hermit somewhere, man, because you bring death wherever you go.

You got a whole bunch of people full of gumption showing up to like semi-functional farmsteads and being like, guys, have you considered not operating in such a way as where you now have, your community has infinitely more than mine? And they're like, whoa, that's interesting. And what are you using to get us to do this? Oh, the tacit threat of violence. Okay. I guess I'll do what you want. It's complicated. Like on one hand, like you said, everywhere Rick goes, he brings violence.

with him. On the other hand, the idea is that this violence was coming and these guys were living in this make-believe utopia. Like, oh, do you have a chain link fence to protect you from the outside and you think that's all you need? No, you need guns, you know, watch towers. You need people on the wall. Like, you're not as safe as you think you are. You're just undiscovered. So, yeah, I never understood. Like my move in, in that kind of scenario and it always irked me a little bit that they didn't just pack up and leave when things got tough because it's a big world it's a big country it's so big and like clearly most of the people are gone now we see them walking around in 100,000 people hordes like there's got to be an isolated place we can go and just live our lives in peace as hunters and gathers and farmers or whatever just have a community in i don't know utah or montana go go to one of those places where there was nobody there before everything went to shit you know the population density of montana is in the Walking Dead universe, like sure the winners are hard, but we'll figure it out. Nobody will rape and murder us. Yeah. There's probably whole towns up there that like lost electricity and

then we're like, well, I guess this is just how we live. They didn't even know about the zombies. They're like in Bisbee, Arizona or something. It seems like they're coastal cities and towns that you could block like maybe I'm biased because I grew up on one, but like I grew up on an island. Dude, you block three bridges and you have like 10 square miles of safety. Yeah, destroy them. Just destroy them and get boats and and fear landing craft, I guess, the rest of your life. But still, like, like something like that. Yeah. Create your own thing is a good idea.

They are drawbridges. You could just put them up. A bunch of, a bunch of sunburned Boston guys like shaking shoddly made spears like Sentinel Island. At landing craft. Get the fuck out of you, dude. We don't need you. Yeah, I never understood that because like, what they had was. for the money thing and certainly don't go over there wearing a bills hat like take that giant's

jersey off they're going to kill us like even when the prison fell i'd have been like wow damn that was awful they might know where the nearest other prison is and i'd have been like alabama's got a great one guys let's head that way let's head west like there's no way we'd head north to where it's colder i don't know i i always hated their strategy um and just the idea that like oh we've got to get together make war upon Negan. It's like, dude, there's 13 of us, all right? Four, fair with lines. Okay, like, we should really sit this.

You know how I know this isn't going to work, Negan? It's because we're taking two vans to the war. And a sponsored Suzuki. Sure, I've got the Asian guy on my lap, but it's basically two Honda Odyssees. We've gotten full of warriors.

When they met Negan, that was the best episode of the whole 13 years. It was so good. You might not remember it's there. It's in the top three for me. Okay. So Maggie was Terminous. That's the one. The cannibals when everybody gets reunited

and they got our main cast like bent over the trough hitting him in the back. Hit him with a bat cut their throat. Hit him with a back cut their throat. And Rick's next and he's just like, I'm going to kill you with that orange handle machete. And the guy's like, sure think, buddy. And at the end of the episode, he does. That guy's like, I could just leave. I disappear. You'd never see me again.

Yeah, but I made promise. He starts hacking. He starts hacking. And everybody's like, fuck, I think he was serious. He really seemed genuine there, Rick. He's hacking. I love it. That's when Rick became a super duper badass.

I want to say that was the season premiere, but the cliffhanger of Terminus, they're in a railroad car. And Rick is like, they're going to feel so stupid. And they're in a railroad car. They're locked up. They're in this like makeshift prison. And they're like, why?

He's like, they're going to feel stupid when they realized who they fucked with. And the season ends. And I was like, oh, shit. Rick's not scared because I'm a little scared. I'm watching it at home. Rick doesn't need to be scared.

He could stand there in a field with a bunch of people with AKs standing nine yards away, firing like into a, they're going to hit the tiger in the other town that the Ezekiel has because they had like the stormtrooper level of accuracy sometimes was painful in that show. True, but Rick did like die is for seven years or something like that.

Yeah, because he thought he was going to get his own movie and then maybe the pandemic or something happened and he didn't. It doesn't matter why. What matters is nobody was safe. No, Rick can leave the show. If Rick can leave the show, whether it be contracts or whatever, they will write out anyone.

I didn't like that. I was, I thought that it was enough that you were torturing them so much that, like, Carl lost his eye. You know, I thought Rick should have lost his hand like he did in the book. Like, I thought, like, stuff like that was enough that I didn't need Rick to die

because I really felt like, I thought that what we were doing here was the main, the story beneath the story was Carl growing up in this world and what he would become and him becoming the new Rick and Rick sort of teaching him to be the man that he is or like a new version of him for this new, world and then they just killed them both off and it was like oh so we're just we're just watching people just do random things in the zombie apocalypse and sometimes they just die whether

we like it or not and appreciate where you're coming from but yeah to me it made it worth watching it wasn't worth watching you know fucking john snow in the battle of the bastards with like 10,000 people piled on top of him but he just can't be smushed because he has the thickest plot armor the whole planet's ever fucking seen he literally died and didn't die well a god brought him back I think when you go so far as to have a god bring him back to life like

you know you wouldn't say that Gandalf had plot armor you just said that well that was part of the story he had become Gandalf died it was part of the plot like he had to come back or I guess he actually didn't need to come back because it didn't matter at all he had inspired men what are you talking about

well you come like because of the ghost army I think he's saying because he was never the guy that was promised. It was actually his little sister. Oh, I'm back on Gandalf. I see what you. Oh, no, no. I have been getting recommended Game of Thrones shorts.

And man, YouTube knows the ones I like. It's that I love that moment when John Snow has become Lord Commander. He's in charge. And now he's ruling things. And his first act is to make his biggest enemy and rival first range. He's like, no man is better than you. You've been tested. and there, you've walked north of the wall, I name

your first ranger, and the guy's like, clearly surprised. He thought he was going to be a latrined dude, and everybody's like, yeah, all right, I'm kind of liking this guy's rule. And he's like, you, Lord Crasterly, the coward, you will take over goose shit ranch. It is made of goose shit. It is aptly named. And despite the name, there

is no ranch. That guy's like, you keep goose shit, ranch, bastard. I'll stay here. And he's like, you mistake me, my lord. It wasn't a request. It was an order. I'll not take orders from you, bastard. I, I handled the defense of kings landing. I have friends. He's like, drag lord coward outside. Olly, get me my sword. And then when they get him out there, he's like, I'm sorry. I'll go to, I'll go to go shit ranch. I'm so sorry. I was scared. I've always been scared. Mercy, my lord. Mercy.

And John Snow's like, hmm, whack. And I loved that. I loved every moment of that. That guy needed it. That guy was such a bitch. And like before that, the other short I saw was that like when they were voting on who was going to be the new Lord commander. And what's fat boy's name? Samwell Tarley.

Samwell speaks up for John. And he's like, well, Lord Crasterly hid with the women and the children in the basement in a puddle of his own making. John was on the wall. John was defending us. John was fighting and leading and inspiring. And it was like, oh, that's a great speech. Loved it, loved it. But every time I see one of those, and I'm like, man, this is a

good show. I remember where it's going. I remember that they're going to end up choosing the king by committee and then sending your favorite characters like here and there for no way. But the stakes are so much lower when you can binge watch it. I've said this before, but Jackie and I were watching like two or three a night. And the fact

that like this season only has six episodes and this one was kind of a dud it doesn't hurt when you didn't wait 18 months for a dud you watch the next one like in 2018 or whatever year it ended like it when an episode came out like there was a time where it was like that was episode four so there's two more oh it's it's it's over it's jover like there's there's no way they wrap this up oh shit this is going to become and not even a cultural memory and a few few days. I'm upset about it and I think I'll be upset about it my entire life. Because I

truly believe that the reason that a masterpiece of cinema or of media even, like something that should have risen to the heights of Lord of the Rings and been looked back upon for decades, maybe a hundred years from now, oh, there was that Game of Thrones show. Oh, yes, a masterpiece.

The thing that took that from us was the greed of D&D and looking forward to their Star Wars deal because they were locked into a flat rate per episode. That's why they did six episodes because they were only getting paid whatever, $200,000 an episode or a million or whatever it was. And they knew that Star Wars money was right

around the corner. And of course, they didn't get the Star Wars money because Disney's constantly reshaking and reshaking. They should never get another job. They should never be allowed to make anything until they go back and redo season eight. What have they done since? Anything I know? Did they do Andor or something? They did not get a Star Wars project. um really certainly not and or they got something and i remember it coming out and people being like

this is from d and d and i'm like all right i'll be sure to skip it um i'm i'm literally mad at them like and i would give them my fraction of a penny of ad sense or or subscription fees or whatever like decimal that i won't even move by my interaction i just i just won't take part in anything that has anything to do with them i'm so mad about that i loved that show with a fiery passion It was so good Those early seasons are masterful Everybody was addicted to it for years And there were half a dozen endings

They could have done that would have been better I wanted them to explore the gods more I wanted there to be some sort of like I wanted them to explore the gods more I wanted to know which gods were real Which gods were more powerful and less powerful I wanted some like glimpse into that I wanted Tyrion to turn out to be

um a um a stark i wanted that to be a thing or not a stark but a targaryen i thought that would have been awesome if tyrian turned out to be a targary and he had this moment where he's been he's been rejected from um his family his entire life and a pariah and then like denarius takes him under her wing she's like of course cousin you're a targaryen of course tierian again i'm trying to lannister the little fellow oh oh okay i wanted him to get i wanted there to be a little dragon for him to ride. He doesn't blow fire. He just puffed smoke.

Yeah. If there'd been a moment where like everybody was down and out and nobody can ride the dragon, maybe Denarius is dead. And then Tyrion like puts out his hand and the dragon's like, yeah. Yeah, buddy. Hop on. And then Tyrion finally gets to fly. Like I wanted that so bad.

I wanted, I'm sorry. I wanted Brand to warg a dragon. Yeah. I thought him warging was going to. be a big thing but all he ever did was a crow or something yeah maybe a dog now the most impressive thing he warred was that enormous retard and that was it like you know what i would have done i would have had brandon warred back in time and change the past and for him to come back and tell like john john look in your pocket my lord it's called bitcoin

you're telling me people are buying pictures of pixelated monkeys on the internet blockchain cannot be broken my lord remember that part of Game of Thrones NFTs didn't even matter all that all that upsets me well we are approaching Thanksgiving it's this month and I'm glad that no turkey again this year

I'm going to do turkey I'm definitely frying a turkey I thought you were going to go big meets or like I thought you were going to do prime rib I thought I remembered you a couple months ago saying you were I don't like prime rib I think prime rib I think prime rib is overrated I don't care for it I would rather have like roast beef than prime rib like a good pot roast than than prime rib I don't like it

I'm a little off when it's rare too or a little under rare like I want that kind of meat cooked all the way through you need it a little rare it doesn't taste right but I get it some people are off put by how pink it is on the I don't like the flavor either I don't like the texture I just don't like prime rib no I'll do turkey I always do turkey and I do southern cornbread um dressing not stuffing and then you know like two or three more sides and a sweet potato pie are you loaded on peanut oil yes I have five gallons of peanut oil in the in the closet just sitting there waiting in a in a giant thing yeah that's the only kind my grandparents used to fry their turkey now is peanut oil oil. And it's so much better than like, because they did vegetable oil a year or two and then switched to that like gigantic tub of peanut oil. You immediately smell the difference. Like just the smell of the peanut oil is like a tasty, savory, not, I mean, it's not peanuty. It is this other smell. It smells good. It smells like good food. But yeah, you know, oil like vegetable oil to me always

smells like grease and like McDonald's and like kids that don't wash their hair. Cheap and cheap and shitty and like you're right about peanut oil it gives a nice smell and it also doesn't make it taste like peanuts which is why uh like the beef tallow i've used same thing i was i had like that thought i had about peanut oil where it's like i don't want this tastes like peanuts i don't want to add a bunch of beef flavor into this thing and it doesn't at all add no beef flavor into it duck fat kind of does because i've tried using duck fat and duck fat does add its own it's like a different level of greasiness because it's like a water bird so i guess it's just got that maybe the different lipid structure and it's fat.

I don't know, but duck fat's really only good with duck. I like it with fries. I've told the story before, but I looked up one time like, who makes the best French fries in the world? And there's this British chef who works at a Michelin Star restaurant,

and he's like, today I'm going to show you how to make Michelin Star chips, the way I do. And it's those, he takes an apple corer, and he cores potatoes and makes these cigar-sized potato chunks.

Oh, I remember this video. Those are good. You boil them for nine minutes. Well, first you soak them in vinegar and water and you get all the starch out. And then you boil them for like nine minutes until they're like, you can really scrape at them with your nail and like take a lot off. And then you,

it's either double fry or three times fry. But I think it's double fry at once at a lower temperature and once at a higher temperature in duct fat. And I made those and they're just incredible. They're so good. And then like using the apple core, you waste a ton of potato. But your fries are like really unique and interesting. and you get like a really fluffy.

They're so big that the inside is like really, really fluffy and the outside is super crunchy and crispy. You create a lot of like craggies by boiling it, so it gets really textured. Is it almost like a long tater top? More like a mozzarella stick sized thing, but it's got its own consistency. It gets extra crispy on the outside

and extra fluffy on the inside and that duct fat imparts of flavor. They're really good. I like that type of fry more now than I did when I was a kid. because I used to just like the McDonald's, like, heavy crisp on the outside, not a ton of fluff on the inside. And now, like, I need that. It's called maturing. And now I need, like, a balance of fluff on the inside and the crisp.

I always like steak fries. The, like, the, like, long kind of chunky ones. Well, wedges, too. Any kind of fry like that that's got some meat to it. I don't like skinny little crunchy fries. I like, I would rather have bendy fries than, like, really crunchy fries. I always like to. Yeah.

I don't mind crunchy fries. My issue with the thin ones is they don't stay warm long enough. And I don't like, like, cold fries to me are the big sin that a fry could make. So give it some thickness so it holds its warmth. Yeah, that's the worst thing about steak and shake. Because the rest of steak and shake's menu is really solid, but they have shoestring fries. And so you get your frisco melt and your fries. And then you, like, in your head are like, I have to finish my fries right just now.

or if I even eat half of this sandwich, all these fries are going to have lost their heat. They're always cold. They're always cold there. When you mentioned cold fries, I immediately thought of those fries and how every time I've gotten them, I like reach in and grab like this many fries,

like four fingers. He's grab a whole pile. And it's like, these are already cold. I'm watching the lady cook them right now. And like they're already cold. I'm in my car. No good.

That's what I want them to change is, you know, I see steak and shakes marketing where they're like, we don't use any vegetable oils anymore. It's like we're frying everything in beef towel and it's like great, awesome. I'm sure it tastes wonderful.

Fix the fries. You can't. Chick-fil-A brought the wedges back. Oh, not Chick-fil-A. Oh, what? KFC brought the wedges back. The only memory I have with KFC wedges is there was almost, I felt like there was like shit like stuck to the outside of them.

There is. Like it was like they get like a flour coat and then like batter it. And it was like this is almost like, in the world of fries this is bad for me yeah as a first fries goes these are basically poison yeah no I like those

they get like a Cajun battery thing and they're always sort of a dark brownish orange color and they're meaty fries I like this I love when at the end of PKNs so often it becomes talking about food because I can smell my dinner being made I'm sure you guys came to it's like

oh another food take this it's just I've been making pulled pork all day. I started at 9 a.m. So it's been in the slow cooker 10 out. When's it ready? Now. All right. P.J.

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