Painkiller Already - PKN 611

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 P-KN 611. How you doing, boys? Pretty good. Pretty good. You're battling with all the scariest monsters slash bugs in like a normal yard, a series of yards. It's a park actually this time, like a public park that some evil science has been done in. The game's grounded too. It's in early access.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I think it's been out for eight months. And they've been adding content to it. So it's one of those situations where, because we're jumping into it, eight months in. And there's like three or four or five like story quests we have to choose from. So there's a lot of content to get through. We've played 50 hours and we've only done like, I'm going to say 50% of what there is to do. But that's probably being generous. I think there's more.
Starting point is 00:00:47 You play as children who have been, honey, I shrunk the kids style, made miniature by an evil corporation. And the evil corporation has been attacked by like an angry ex-employer. something like that who has shrunk herself down, Dub, gotten this badass suit of armor, and then she's like a like crazy villain that's like fucking with the park. But there's lots of other stuff to do. There's big boss fights. It's survival. Why does the corporation want really small children?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Oh, well, I don't know. I don't think it was supposed to be children. I think, but they're running these miniaturization experiments in general. I think it's an easy way to like hide from the EPA and other like government regulation stuff. They can just make a tiny little scary experiment and there's no like building to inspect if anybody came around. But I
Starting point is 00:01:37 haven't really dealt too deep into the I didn't play ground at one. So I think I got left out of that. It's real fun though. When you're fighting the bugs, I haven't been scared. I play phasmophobia 100 hours. I never got spooked. I mean I'm you know I can deal with these ghosts.
Starting point is 00:01:54 When a fucking wolf spider comes out of nowhere, the sound design is so good. He's just like and he's on you and I don't like spiders and it's huge. I mean, you're, as the game goes on at first, you're like, oh,
Starting point is 00:02:08 big spider. You soon learned that was not a big spider. That is a spider that exists. And as it goes on, every time you see a new spider, you're like, huge spider, biggest one we've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And eventually you're running into wolf spiders and tarantulas and stuff. And they're so enormous and towering over you. And you've got to let you've got to like parry their attacks and stuff. And they built it like an RPG. So there's an archer class, a mage class, a rogue class, and sort of a sword and shield, spear and shield type class. So before your internet cut for a second, making me think there was a gap. But it's okay.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That was trying to explain my interrupting. Did you try out the arachnophobia mode? So I think that just makes the spiders less scary. Yes. Yeah. It turns them into silly cartoon spiders. That's the opposite of what I would have thought. It is for people with arachnophobia.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And I didn't keep it that way, but I was like, what's this do? And suddenly all the spiders are very silly. Dangerous. They play the same, but they're silly. I want to be spooked and startled. The scorpions are very scary. I'm probably most afraid of them and the wolf spider. But at this point, we've got like a big base and it's defended by like walls.
Starting point is 00:03:27 and they come and raid you at night. So, like, you get these attacks of bugs of various size. What about your trained bug, aren't? Are they no match? Because I know you said you trained an ant or something. Yeah, those are called buggies. Those are your transportation. I have a red ant, a black ant, and an orb weaver spider.
Starting point is 00:03:45 They all do different stuff. But mostly they help you get across the park really, really fast. Because, you know, you're like a centimeter tall. So it takes forever to get across a real world-sized park. And when you get up high and you see how big everything is, you're like, oh my God, I've been living next to a cooler my whole life. Like 10 hours, we haven't left the cooler yet. I'm digging it.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's so fun. We've mostly been playing with me and SCOM playing duos, but it's four players. We've got a third guy that kind of comes and goes when he can. He has a real job. Can people come and go and still exist in your world, or would they have to be leveled up to be? No.
Starting point is 00:04:23 They do a really good job with the shared saves. so I can get on by myself and toil away in our world and then Scum can like load that save on his computer and do the same on his own and then we can just bring people in randomly but if I were to join I would have no armor I'd be less skilled because I don't have your hours you'd be all right we've got a big roll of like we're like super rich you know we've been grinding for 50 hours like leaves
Starting point is 00:04:50 there's no like it's more crafting there's no like currency but there's like rare crafting items, you know, like you're always getting better versions of things. You make your armor out of bug parts. There's like mantis armor and orbweaver armor and like your daggers are spider fangs with poison in them and stuff,
Starting point is 00:05:10 like stuff like that. What class did you pick? Rogue. I've been running around with ice daggers and like spider armor on. It's very scary. Is it? I should know this.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Look at my character. Like, ugh. What does rogue mean? Does that mean you're like a dexterity zip around, but not strong guy? Like the Lego? The highest DPS in the game. I'm like dual wielding daggers and stabbing, whereas like the other character might be an archer or a mage with a staff or. So, mage I know.
Starting point is 00:05:44 That means wizard. Paladin, I know. That means knight. I don't know why people don't use words that I know. Well, that's the paladin's different than a night. Holy knight. He has a cause. Yeah, he's taken.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Okay, okay, and a knight with an imaginary friend. How, what is a rogue? It's focusing on DPS and crit damage. At least in other games, Rogue, you like get sneak and stealth and like stealing ability. It depends on the game. Yeah. Here it's mostly about crit damage and dual wielding and like finishing three hit combos quickly. So because you get a bonus at the end of each one.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So like getting as many of those thrown out there as possible. I'm mostly running in and just like stabbing a lot. I could see enjoying rogue. It's a good time. You can play whatever character you want. We've got tons of stuff. In the soul's world, I like dexterity builds, which sounds like the closest to the ones you've talked about. Maybe the arrow guy too.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'd have to see it. Yeah. Like there's different kinds of arrows. In Vermintyteid, that was like a dexterity kind of vibing, you know, quick light hits, shredding, shredding, shredding. arrows, but other people have great bows and it's not the same at all. Yeah, there's like snipers. There's tons of different kinds
Starting point is 00:07:00 of ammo for the bow because you can do, I guess there's like mints in the park like like like candies and there's like spicy candies and you use those for those elemental charges so you're getting these like little you're breaking these spicy candies out.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So it's like find a fireball and then that yeah. Okay. Well you mine bits of it and then you can craft like a fire staff that will shoot globules of like molten fire stuff and the same for the ice staff but it's like icebreaker mints or something like that
Starting point is 00:07:32 that you're breaking apart and the different elements lots of stuff. There's acid but acid is just sour candy. Are you getting fucked up by bugs like a third of the time, a quarter of the time? We're fucking shit up. Because you said it was like Dark Souls and I know you die
Starting point is 00:07:50 all the time and in games like I don't die too much. I try not to take too many fights that are that are like overwhelming. But when we do boss fights and like events, we'll like fail the first two, three, maybe four times. And sometimes we're like, we're too low level for this. We've got to go back to the drawing boards. We got to get some mint tea. We got we got to reduce our sizzle, you know, and it'll be like 10 hours later. Yeah, yeah. When you go into hot places, you get sizzled. what's the ultimate bug like the end game
Starting point is 00:08:23 like a praying mantis Oh there's bosses Oh the praying mantises We would just karate chop now Like they're not a problem There are some really annoying ones Like the flying things Like fireflies and wasps are really annoying
Starting point is 00:08:34 The wolf The wolf spider is kind of the biggest Normal enemy but there's tons of bosses So there's like a cockroach queen There's like different variants of enemies So like each variant is like The same thing but tougher There's a lizard
Starting point is 00:08:48 They just added a little bit of a little lizard. I think we're going to try to fight the lizard boss. That's got to be the number one. Like it is a whole new type of animal. Yeah, yeah. We're leaving the insect world. No more arthropods. It's a lizard. And it's like a gecko or something, like a fire gecko. But there's a snake. I don't know if you can kill the snake, but it's always like making its way through the park and you know, you jump on its back and ride it around. Kind of like the sandworms in Dune. Does it bite you? If you get near the head, it will. It'll gobble you. up real good. At the end of this, are you going to return to being normal-sized children and, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:24 Narc on the evil lady? Like, is that the kind of the goal? I don't know. I have no idea. I assume you know everything about every game you play because you always do those deep dives and research. This one's still early access, though, and like, I'm not even sure if the whole story's fleshed out. Like, like, there's tons of content there, but I don't know. I would imagine the first thing they did when they released is, like, there's a main, there's clearly a main story, but there's like, several parallel stories that are equally in-depth and complicated, and we're kind of mixing and matching as we level up to do them. I built a hell of a base.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I got on yesterday morning at like 10 a.m. And Scum got on at 5 p.m. And I had not stopped or blinked for seven hours. He's just like, whoa, what have you done? I'll be going for a while. Yeah, I see that. Is this all pebble? Is Pebble the fancy floor, I'm assuming?
Starting point is 00:10:23 You were out there really collected? It's like how you make like a concrete foundation basically. And I made the entire base like a concrete foundation. I built a big hut with two levels and like stored all over stuff. I decorated. Do you have defenses? Like is it a game where while you're offline, you might get raided by the AI bugs?
Starting point is 00:10:42 We got it. Not when you're offline, but they'll raid you when you're online. And then you can't like go to sleep or like get away from the raid. you just have to let it come. But I've got like acorns on top of my base that you get inside of. And they like rotate and you shoot like acorn ammo at the bugs with those. So that's pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Nice. Seems like you're having a ball. I'm having a great time. That's a fun. I'm looking forward to this being over because I think scumble will be home from work. We get on play. I'm looking forward to we got to I've got to turn the water on in the greenhouse. You know how long I was looking for those misting nipples?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Like, yeah, all night. I can't imagine. You guys have a nice 24-hour shift going. It sounds like you're playing enough. Like, we've all experienced this because we've all games where you get up to make yourself lunch and like your eyes sting because you haven't seen real light all day. And when you blink,
Starting point is 00:11:34 they're so dry. Like, you have to peel your eyelids back. I get that right. So I've got really good eye drops. But sometimes when I'm playing a game like this, when I'm in combat and I'm actually trying to like parry these strikes, and trying to recognize which attack is coming.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Is this a five-hit combo or the delay one-hitter? Is it the left or the right? Is he going to sit at me? Sounds souls-like. And like trying to memorize that for all the goddamn enemies. And so I'm just like not blinking. I'm just Perry, Perry, Perry, Perry, Perry, delay Perry. I did it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And the spiders is, one health bar is gone. Fuck. That's a good time. 20 times. Yeah, you've got to do it so many times. But when we gang bang the bosses, you can see their health bar just bleed down. Like, it's definitely tuned for four players. And the difficulty doesn't lower is when you played solo.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So solo is really hard, especially for playing on the hard difficulty. For me, anyway, I would get beat up a lot. But when we play with like three of us, we just beat the shit out of almost everything. I don't think it was supposed to be a really scary movie. But when I saw Honey, I Shrunk the Kids as a child, like, It did scare me because I was like, oh my gosh, this is just a movie. In real life, did you cry? When did the ant raise, but like you would be fucked.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like the first aunt you come across, the first anything, because in that game, like, it sounds like they're about the same size as you. Like, first of all, bug faces horrible up close. Terrible, terrible things up close, monstrous. Thank God they're so little. But I remember being afraid of that and being like Rick Moran, it should have been more careful. there should have been a lock on that door
Starting point is 00:13:20 at the very least. Unplug it. Unplug the shrinking ray when you step away. That's all you got to do. You wouldn't leave like a boiling pot of water on the oven when there's kids around. Why would you leave your shrinking ray plugged in and like ready to go? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Do you remember? They like tripped and fell or something. Someone slipped on a tennis ball or something. Does that sound right? I don't remember exactly. I didn't watch it a lot because I always got really sad when the aunt. died. Like that that bummed me out as a kid a lot. No, I didn't care about the ant. I was just thinking, like as soon as they got back to normal size, I'm like someone, someone needs to call CPS.
Starting point is 00:13:58 It gave its life to save them from the scorpion. And they defeated the scorpion. Unrealistic. Scorpion were a fuck enough. And when they're eating that oatmeal, they're eating like an oatmeal cream pie and there's getting these double handfuls of the cream. That's what I loved as a kid. I was like, I want that. I want that. I want a giant oatmeal cream pie that I can like double fist chunks of fruit from. That was a good scene. I did like that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I remember liking that. The sequel, not as scary, but still negligent. The honey, I blew up the baby. And then it was that giant baby stomping through Vegas or something. Yeah, I think so. And I remember thinking like, not a good movie. No, number one, not a good movie. If like seven-year-old me can identify a poor film,
Starting point is 00:14:45 then it's rough. But I do remember thinking, like, that baby doesn't have shoes on. It's stomping on cars. Yeah. Like, it would be bleeding everywhere. It'd be spas and even more. Like, the baby wouldn't have kept holding on to that fake metal donut for as long as he did. Immediately would identify this isn't food.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Because remember, he steals the big boy, don't know? Yeah. Not a good one. It's been a long time since I've seen it. Yeah. But was the donut a sign? And he just grabbed and thought it was real. It was like the old-timey, like big boy thing.
Starting point is 00:15:15 where he's not know. Babies eat keys for hours on end. The thought that he liked a metal donut seems feasible. Murphy stole a syringe out of my like cabinet and is running around with it. It's still wrapped up and it's like got the safety cap on. And I like grab him with one arm and I'm like, give it to me. And he's going, ah, like give me this. And he got, I got it out of his mouth. And before I could pull my hand away, he bit me three times.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He just goes, pop, pop, pop, pop. You little motherfucker over a syringe. Did it break skin? Or just little nymphs. Yeah. Damn. Cocksucker. What a spoiled bit.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like running around with such dangerous things and they don't realize it. Like you've seen that meme where it's like a picture of a dog begging near a stove. And he's like, my dog's angry and sad that I won't give him any boiling water. Yeah. Speaking of dogs, Woody has the recovery going. I mean, heck if I know. So he is supposed to be inactive for four weeks. Good luck making an eight-month-old puppy sit still.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Now he's drugged, so it kind of helps. But yesterday morning, for example, I had to let him out. It's 6 a.m. Now, we only let him out on a leash now. He has an electric fence, so he's used to, like, having the whole yard. But while he's recovering, I keep him on a leash. Well, I don't know where Jackie put the leash. I can't find it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm looking all over. It's not on the counter where it's supposed to be. It's not on my second best guess where I thought it might be. She's asleep. So I'm like, I'll just let the dogs out. And my concern was that they would like wrestle. So I'll just like go out there next to them, use my angry dad voice and stop that from happening.
Starting point is 00:17:05 What does happen? There are deers 600 feet away. Our dog starts sprinting and galloping. just racing off. I call them back. These dogs come when I call them, but not this time. This time, it was all about the deer. And I'm like, I'm just a bad pet owner.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I can't settle this dog down enough. I hope his recovery goes great. But every time he like wrestles or does something, okay, you keep him in the house, right? Can your dog use doorknobs? Open the door and let himself out? Because that presents a challenge. like we're like no we just let you out and he's like actually yes and he opens the door and he walks
Starting point is 00:17:49 on out and he's doing his thing and i'm just like we're i don't know this is ridiculous so we have not kept him as like uh what is it called like a pregnant woman bedridden but bed there's a term for this bed rest i think it's bed rest yeah is what i was going for we haven't kept him on bed rest like we're supposed to. He can rest most of the time with probably one mistake every other day. And then like, this is the best we've managed to do. So I hope he's good. Yeah. He sees the doctor again in a week and we'll get a check up. He's walking. They have to know. Yeah. They know that. They gave him a cone. Like, so we almost instantly dropped the cone and gave him this like inflatable donut. Yeah. To which our dogs instantly pop the donut. We had,
Starting point is 00:18:39 had this dog for yellow labs, previous days. I'm sorry, we had this donut thing, like inflatable collar for like four other sets of dogs. And these dogs have it for 10 minutes and they popped it. Like you sent some monkeys. Now, Andy wears my T-shirt 24 by 7. So he can't lick his incisions. And it does help us keep, tell him apart, which is nice. But so he just walks around in my shirt constantly.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Is it like, are you picking out nice, fun shirts for him? Like, number one lifeguard? There's just shirts that like are the bottom of them. Like something I would wear to paint. You know, that's what he gets. And then he stretches out the collar so big. They're not ever going to be. You just say goodbye to them as soon as it is.
Starting point is 00:19:30 He is now. Yeah. But he seems to be healing okay. We just worry that we're not doing a good enough job of keeping him inactive. because he's yeah he keep he he he's not helping he's all you can do though like he's eight months old and he's a great day and like there's no way to keep him from sprinting around yeah there's no catching him there's that is not i uh hussein bolt couldn't catch my dogs like literally they go about just shy of 40 yeah oh my god you know like so there's like i i go just shy of four by now
Starting point is 00:20:04 Your dog runs away. He's gone. This rate, he could be anywhere. You'd be able to see the air tag on your app moving in real time. It's a ride. But they're sweet.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I don't know. Oh, and here's a thing that's new. Every once in a while the boy gets aggressive. And it only lasts like two or three seconds, but it doesn't take long for a big dog to be dangerous. And we kind of predicted this. And we were like, he's the one that's going to get fixed first. Ideally, you wait like 18 months to get your dogs fixed so that they get to finish growing up and then you remove their hormones and,
Starting point is 00:20:56 you know, can't be healthy to take a dog's genitals away from them, right? They're supposed to have them. So at least let them like get into their adult body first. And we always, thought that he was the one who would lose his balls before her because of aggression, but now he can't. So even though he's like showing little signs of aggression, even just for a few seconds, he needs to be intact to heal well. To you or to her?
Starting point is 00:21:18 The dog. Yeah, he doesn't show aggression towards people, just this sister. Yeah. So, yeah, anyway. So I guess he's going to have his nuts for at least three more months while his bones heal.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And, I don't know one more thing to keep an eye on I guess it would be all right just nipper a little maybe they think you know it's not a like he's gonna kill her true but I have
Starting point is 00:21:43 you know I want perfection in these standards like I don't like dog aggression between each other we don't that doesn't fly yeah sometimes it's hard you would know but I'm just in general sometimes it's hard to tell if they're playing or because my dogs will fuck with
Starting point is 00:21:58 the girl dog will fuck with Toby and he's he will take so much And like Murphy will, Toby will be on his back and Murphy will be like pouncing on his face like biting him. And Toby's going, oh, wow, whoa, wow. But eventually he's had enough from the girl dog like jumping on it. She gets him like a kangaroo and kind of strangles him. He's just like, ah, enough. That ties to be my rule.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like I got this off the internet and I've adopted it as my truth. If a dog yelps and the other one doesn't stop, it's a problem. If the other one stops and goes like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't mean to hurt you. Then it's not a problem. Yeah, that's the case. Yeah. So he was a problem this morning.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And like, it's not okay. I wasn't there. Jackie was there. But yeah. So anyway, these dogs are so good. Almost all the time. With the exception of 20 seconds yesterday, three seconds today.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's like, we're close. Dude, I've been watching Euphoria. I just started watching that. yesterday. Today, I was like blown away by how good the acting was. And then I realized it's two things. One, lighting. I've taken enough, hey, everyone, look at my six-pack abs to understand what lighting does.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah. And two, these actors don't have Botox. And I've become so accustomed to Botox actors. Sidney, how old is this girl? Like 25, 8, 8? 90-something. I'm looking at pores and forehead wrinkles and things I haven't seen on actor. She's not old.
Starting point is 00:23:39 But like Zendaya, I think I'm close. Sydney Sweeney, I don't know all the actresses names. Like a couple of them do have Botox. And I am looking at the difference in it is stark. Like what happens in the way that they show their facial expressions is I almost want other people to watch it. Check out season three episode three if you just want to see this. and I think it's kind of neat now I'm starting to appreciate actors
Starting point is 00:24:05 and actresses that don't use Botox because it adds something to the performance it paralyzes your face you know the thing you emote with as an actor I always recognize it when a newscaster or an actress is like a parallel fresh like half a fresh doesn't work
Starting point is 00:24:21 like a fucking starlight on a on the boys well so but I feel like now as examples are from a tree like like light Every now and then they hit her from a certain lighting and angle where it's like you look like Michael Jackson from 95 Did you see your explanation?
Starting point is 00:24:42 So I she's got some disease apparently That dude. Okay, so yeah, I think it's called Graves disease and I was like I can sometimes be contrarian especially if everyone's bullying someone suddenly I'm this person's best friend You know, like Starlighter, she needs me to stick up for her. So here I am. And I look into Graves disease. And I'm like, you lying fucking slut. This is not the issue here.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Graves disease sometimes, not always, gives like a very mild impact on the eyes. I think they look a little bulgier or something. I think it was that healing from her cosmetic surgery is why the Graves disease was an issue. No, I saw a quote from her on Twitter that was like, people are saying I've had a bunch of work. It's Graves disease actually. And it's like, does Graves disease also reshape your nose? Like, right?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Graves disease only has an impact on the eyes. And everyone's talking about her mouth. Look, they fucked her mouth up. I don't know, I don't know what she was going for, but it probably wasn't that. It's frowning in the pictures I see of her. A little fish lipped and frowning. The before and afters are startling.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And the worst thing about it, when you hover over the boys on Amazon and like maybe step away to grab a drink or piss, it plays a little bit of the boys but from like season one or two or something and there's this like she looks like an 18 year old cheerleader or something like that like a cherub face
Starting point is 00:26:09 like she's got like full cheeks and like a rounded face and she's very pretty and youthful and like she looks like girl next door middle America which is what her character is supposed to be and then you look at her now and she looks like I don't know a nightclub bimbo
Starting point is 00:26:25 who's had too much Botox and plastic surgery. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It should be more frowned upon. And like if you're an actor or actress, to your point, Woody, like, that should make you lose work, if anything.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Because I saw, I saw there was this like viral clip from Euphoria. I haven't seen the show, but I saw like Sidney Sweeney and some other character, like, having an emotive, like yelling conversation back and forth at some party. Okay. And it was showing like Sydney Sweeney's like normal, you know, wrinkles as she would emote as people do and her cheeks moving. And then the other girl was like, like you could tell from her eyes that she was supposed
Starting point is 00:27:02 to be emoting and being really angry. Not a single line moved anywhere else on the face. So it's like unless you like obviously you can tell from the way she's saying it, she's angry. There would be no, if you were to take like a black box and put it over her mouth, she would just look psychotic. Yeah. Like, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:20 It's like the animation from Invincible. I'm trying to talk about this without spoiling euphoria. but there's a scene in which somebody Sidney-Sweeney knows is having a hard time. And she's supposed to care about that. But instead, she's self-centered. So that's what happens. And I'm watching this. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:38 she is killing it. Like, I didn't know Sidney Sweeney was freaking Philip Seymour Hoffman. And then I processed this. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're just not used to seeing no Botox. I am just unaccustomed to seeing actors that can emote.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And she did do a good job. I don't mean to take it away from her. But I'm like this, more people should try this, like look like themselves. And maybe it's because I'm 53. I'm just more accepting of people who aren't 23 anymore. Like, Tita Faye, I'm fine with whatever you look like. I think you're kind of funny. Like, go do your thing.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Get a roll. I'm here for it. Oh, she doesn't want a roll. She wants SNL. She should age grace. in the wings for that. She wants a orange job. She's going to run it.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Then maybe she's not the right one. I would just trying to pick an actress who's not 23 who I kind of like me. Oh, yeah. Was she not on SNL? I thought, yeah. She was. She's saying that she'll be the new. What's his name, Lauren?
Starting point is 00:28:40 Lauren Michaels. Lauren Michaels. The showrunner. Yeah, Lauren. Yeah. Okay. Like running the show, handling, hiring, firing, approving skits, running SNL.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Is that a, what she's going to do though? Is it like SNL really big still? Yeah. Or is it opened up and off? They just made SNL UK or England or whatever it is now. Yeah, I think it's a huge deal.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Sometimes I can't tell whether something is like a never ending cultural icon or as soon to be ended cultural icon. Like the Tonight Show, right? You know, it had Johnny Carson, then it went to what, J. Leno and I don't even know who had it. along the way.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Conan. Conan, you're right. Is Conan still on it? So you made, so Conan took the job. His ratings weren't great after like three months. And Leno came back and took the job back again because he missed working.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And then, and then Conan went and did his own show. And now he's doing it. And then he did another show. And now he's doing a third show or something like that. Leno's retired now. So tonight show's got to be Stephen Colbert. is it Colbert okay
Starting point is 00:29:55 well anyway Colbert is tricky because it's political but I ask myself like is the night show still like a staple or is this just like terrestrial radio you know some dying medium that is fading I think it lives on in digital
Starting point is 00:30:12 like obviously the broadcast television isn't as big anymore and there's so many options that people just aren't tuning in at 10 p.m. to see the tonight show every night and see who's the guest who's Carson got it's not that but in digital like the YouTube clips like add up and like build a massive following especially with SNL like that's how I intake SNL I haven't watched sat down and watched SNL in 20 years or something but I watch SNL clips almost every week especially yeah if it if YouTube suggests it to me it's probably a better than average cold open or something and I'll check it out yeah I think it's an age thing more than anything like I don't think most people under 40 are watching SNL or you know and you never want to use yourself as an example but in my world like I don't it's it's never been a topic of conversation like no one ever brings up like none of my friends none of my friends wives none of my acquaintances like it's not a thing and I have this feeling that like when my dad was my age it was like a cultural icon it was like maybe like on water cooler talk on Monday like they'd be talking about the you know they were the king makers of comedy actors yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:31:22 comedy actors. It's just there's so much more variety and availability and things you can watch now than there was that it's hard to imagine 20 years from now or whatever that when, you know, boomers and Jen Xers get a bit older that, you know, it stays as popular. I think of it as a young left wing show. I see a lot of it. I think of it as an older left wing show, but I don't know. I was going to say Taylor's on the younger side. He's from Missouri. Probably has Christian conservative friends as well.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And like that that circle is going to be where SNL is least popular But I'm I'm tossing in my mind just now like they always made fun of politics But they never lost half of one of the teams before Yeah, now it seems like the red team is like fuck it you can't make fun of my guy I'm out They're not even hard on Trump like Trump will do something that's deplorable like like like you're like oh my god there's people dead now I don't think they're all guilty and then they'll go on there and it's just a silly Trump, like, yes, he's like worried about Big Macs or something. They're doing a big Mac sketch and like, he just killed a lot of people today.
Starting point is 00:32:29 This is a little light. Because I feel like they really try to like stay down the middle and keep people. They're not flattering to Biden. Yeah, like I thought they're always soft on everybody if you ask me. Like, you know, you go back to they made fun of Ray. I remember they're making fun of Reagan or I've seen the skits. The skits of them making fun of Reagan. And even that, it's like lighthearted.
Starting point is 00:32:52 The guy had Alzheimer's and they knew it. And he's just the skits hilarious because at first he's the old senior daughtering man who can't who can barely process that he's got some like guest in the Oval Office. And as soon as he's gone, he's like, all right, he's gone. Back to work. And like a team of people come in and they're taking notes as he lightning fire solves world events, like fixes the economy, deals with geopolitics. There's maps everywhere.
Starting point is 00:33:18 he's talking about what the CIA needs to do and he's just like Johnny on the spot with it like that's hilarious. I like that they're never too mean because I get enough of that everywhere else. Like I get enough Trump hate and Trump love like everywhere else on the internet. I don't need,
Starting point is 00:33:34 I like that it's down the middle and it's not too mean. There's a little too milk toast. Like the clips I'll see of it. It's like, you know, it's a little too, I don't know. I know like not to use like the word edgy. because that's loaded, but like there's not a lot of edge
Starting point is 00:33:50 to it. It's a little, which for some people, I'm sure, like, that's their bread and butter. Not to you, though. Personally, they... Your lab wire. Oh, you know me. I grab them, like, I grab those wires like an Indian guy on top of the train. We were playing
Starting point is 00:34:08 a game in the guy that was with was like, I'm pretty sure they have, like, they were like weak to electricity or something like a, like an RPG villain. because I've never seen one survive, a shock. They just drop like mobs who hit a bug zapper dead every single time. I think they're vulnerable to electrical dam. They're vulnerable to elemental attacks.
Starting point is 00:34:32 But they have disease resistance. And that's where it, you know, you dip us in that water. We come out with, you know, five eyes, an extra arm. They just push it off. I'm just cleaner. That's how I shower. Yeah. A little electrified water.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It would be fun if you were a scientist. It would be fun if you were a scientist to like take samples of that water and then culture them and see what grew. We did an experiment like that in the sixth grade where we, they were like, everyone take a piece of yarn home and rub it on something. And then we're going to put it in a plastic bag full of unflavored, uncolored, gelatin as a media for it to grow in. And then we're going to duct tape all the Ziploc bags to the wall with your names next to
Starting point is 00:35:16 and we'll see what everybody grows. I took my thing to the chicken houses and rubbed it on the floor. You cannot imagine a more bacteria rich environment. It grew something that poisoned my teacher and she was gone the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I didn't have it. She was gone. It was green. Does she touch it? She was like, this is, this looks bad. I'm going to have to dispose of this. And then she got like extremely sick. Taylor, as he was explaining the experiment. Were you also thinking about where you'd put the yarn, like how you'd get your sample?
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah. And I don't think I know for a fact, there's nothing as dirty as a chicken house I could have used. Maybe I would have rubbed it on like my dog's poop or something, try to make it gross. But I can't think of anything else. Well, where would you abrupt it? I don't know that my ideas are good. I started with my go. I was like, I don't know where this is going to go. Then I mentally, I advanced to my butt hole and that's where I stopped. so you moved you moved about three quarters of an inch I didn't have a lot of creativity if I thought process but I pictured Kyle when you had yours like that petri dish
Starting point is 00:36:34 where like she's coming around with the test that you don't want to take and you're like aha pull a cloak up and smash it and you run out of the room everyone's coughing I mean, your poor teacher. She had no idea what hell you had in store. That was a fun experiment. That was pretty cool. I thought about doing that again later because it was just getting a microscope and seeing what I grew.
Starting point is 00:36:56 But what happened to her scared me. I also often thought, like, if I needed to poison somebody, that's how you do it. I think you can grow some sort of like, well, anything. Like anything like gross. I bet you could grow some weird, you could take it to a hospital maybe. and like like rub it down into the sharps or something like maybe get some aids on it or something grow some aids oh the sharps the needles wow what a what a horrific idea so you're gonna reach in there and then paw around re hermage just paw around yeah yeah look for honey you have to be saved
Starting point is 00:37:33 blindly scrape about on the disease front have you seen that cruise ship uh or heard about that virus that's going that went on a cruise ship? I only read a headline. Yeah. Well, I need to find the name of it again. Some kind of virus that, from what I've found online, doesn't really transmit human to human, Hanta virus. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It was on a, apparently usually you get it from inhaling like air contaminated with contaminated rat feces. And so that would mean there's a lot of rats. on this and people have been getting off this cruise ship in different places. And I guess there's one type of this disease that can go human to human. All the rest are just like rat feces and then it doesn't transmit. But like three people or I think seven people on the boat confirmed had it. Three of them died.
Starting point is 00:38:30 It's like pretty intense. It's like a respiratory disease from the rat shit. The hunter virus. I've heard of it. A antivirus, yeah. Two confirmed, or I guess two confirmed five suspected, but I think this is yesterday, so I think it updated and another person died. And I saw a news story where it's like one of the people that they suspect was infected
Starting point is 00:38:55 and was having symptoms flew home to Australia and they're keeping tabs on her. And it's like, you know, just in just in case, this isn't the rat kind. keep her on the boat you know stay on the boat skip your your your your your little boat well no just stay in the ocean stay in the ocean on your virus boat what about the people who don't have the virus they're not going to get it
Starting point is 00:39:22 unless it's the human to humankind but I thought you said it was the human human kind no no they don't think it is they think it's the rat feces kind and apparently they're not even sure that it happened on the ship they think it may have happened to a couple people when they got off in some seedy area of Argentina. You're not holding me hostage on the Hauntavirus cruise.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'm getting off the next port. Yeah, I mean, I'll get a dinghy or something. I'm leaving. You got gunk in your eyes. You're coughing. You're like, I'm fine. Hey, guys, pink guy, I'm filthy. Let me out.
Starting point is 00:39:58 You're like, like, Dennis. Sickness be gone. I've heard of those nightmare stories where like bad things happen on cruise and you're kind of just stuck with it. I know there's the famous one with all the videos of the toilets overflowing and I guess with the rocking of the boat like shit water, like sewage is just slushing about and they're everywhere. And everybody's like poop.
Starting point is 00:40:21 They handed out plastic bags, I think, for people to start shitting into. I don't know what you're supposed to put your piss into. Maybe cast it out the window if you have one. That seems like the best option. That's what sailors do, like in the little sailboats. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Ugh. How many part of that? There was some story where everyone at a wedding got diarrhea. Is this it? Hmm. They sued a caterer after a hundred guests became violently ill out of reception. Did they say what food? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I'll have to try and find it. 22 were hospitalized of the hundred. Several that were stricken were children. and this was back in 2018 and I'm trying to find this first time I'm actually looking into it a friend told me that like it was so bad that they had to
Starting point is 00:41:17 like put a tarp down because there weren't enough bathrooms and like put a tarp down outside and people were like vomiting and like shitting themselves on a tarp in the parking lot just like every little really bad see and that's just grass and bushes to me are just natural vomit receptacles, right?
Starting point is 00:41:37 That's what nature's for. Yeah, I agree. Just me? Yeah, I wouldn't shit myself. I'm going to find some bush somewhere. Like, that's, I'm not shitting. Oh, exactly. Tucks.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I pooped in a lot of woods. I got systems for this. I have not pooped in a lot of woods. I actually, I don't. I've pooped in a couple woods. Maybe once, twice. Something like that. I'm in the triple digits.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I have to be. I pooped in an open field once. Now, that's vulnerability. I'm looking around like a dog, a dog. I did that one time I had a Oh, actually. I was in an aeromotor race around Florida and I don't know why I didn't eat more carefully
Starting point is 00:42:21 ahead of time, but I pooped myself mid-flight. And upon emergency landing, I just used my underwear as toilet paper, left that in the field and carried on. Yep, fertilizer. Adapt, overcome, improvised. I think the Marines say something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:41 That is the Marines. For exactly. Yeah. Do I get it right? The Boy Scout, no. Improvice, adapt, overcome.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I think that's the pair of motor street. That's the Paramotor's Creed. The Taliban. That's why to this day, I wear two pairs of socks. That's what I had to use to, that's what I had to use to wipe out field. pop those socks off, slip them on.
Starting point is 00:43:06 That's also what I used to wipe under that willow tree in that very public area at the Botanical Gardens' senior year. Now that was Jason Statham level heist. Underware has always been my go-to. I can go the rest of the day and no one knows but me. Yeah. Sox work too. And like you wipe your ass once with a nice pair of socks and you're like,
Starting point is 00:43:26 man, if I were a millionaire, there would be signs. There'd just be a big pack of brand new Nike's sitting next to the door. You've got some gold toes. They just slip your hands in. Yeah, yeah. I'm feeling like a champion today. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to have to just install a bidet at some point. That's clearly the way of the future. I know you've been on that bidet life for a long while. Yeah. I see a lot of people doing washable toilet paper. They're not paper, but cloths.
Starting point is 00:44:02 They've got like, they're wiping their ass with cloths. putting them in like a bin and then washing them. No, no, no, no, no that. Oh, we live in a disposable world, Kyle. That doesn't sound like an American. It's not a very first world thing. Yeah, dude, I hate pooping in third world countries
Starting point is 00:44:19 where you can't flush toilet paper. I have this fear that they're going to look in the toilet and judge me. Like, it's not the toilet, the trash bin next to it. Like, when you throw your toilet paper away, you're going to be like, oh, rough day, Woody, huh? I don't trust any of your fiber sources here, you piece of shit. Your poop in the bathroom, very fragrant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I start a conversation with that. You know, they have staff that, like, throws out the toilet paper next to the toilet every day or even, like, more than once a day. But I am not used to having that kind of staff. I feel like I'm imposing upon them. and I don't like the situation at all. I wish I could flush it. But they don't want me flushing it.
Starting point is 00:45:06 They don't want me flushing it. You can't get real plumbing in these countries. With their poop? Is that a space? I think they, yeah, the spaceship. I think they were burning it. I think they were, I think it was like burning it or something.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Oh, it must have had a lot of energy. Couldn't they just, maybe I'm missing something. I would have just nudged it towards Earth. I remember them talking about a weird smell, a burning smell or something coming to from the toilet. I do remember that. Yeah, some issues with the toilet.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So, like, it sprays their piss into space and the piss was freezing on the nozzle, and so the nozzle was clogged. They had a few issues with that stuff. So then somebody has to, like, spacewalk out there? I don't think they're capable- With a lighter. Yeah, chisel the pee off. Ah, damn, no oxygen. We should have known this.
Starting point is 00:45:54 We have astronauts. There's going to be some $10 million NASA lighter that supplies oxygen. Yeah. Yeah, that would, it doesn't seem like a problem where you'd have to burn your fecese. Oxyacetylene would burn it. You could just push it out of it. I was thinking that. I just had that in my mind, too.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I don't know if it, it must use ambient air, but I bet you could dial it in to exist without it. Actually, I don't know. That's a, that's a good one. That's a good. You could, like you said, you could have, like, I've had it dialed in and just ready to, like, it goes out. Like, you get too close to this and it sputters out. And you just immediately, like, spark it back up, like, with the correct mixture. that should work
Starting point is 00:46:32 but then how do you spark it if you had like an electrical spark but also how do you know that mixture is not using ambient air a little bit too like I bet it is yeah I don't know if I use it a if I use an arc acetylene torch in like a vacuum
Starting point is 00:46:47 a coffin I would quickly run out of oxygen yeah but I'm not sure if that oxygen is required for the I'm gonna I gotta ask chat cheap you oh I'm looking for I think you'd burn to death in your coffin first. I did this huge torch in here. Why'd we go with 60 pound tanks?
Starting point is 00:47:14 I should have told someone I was testing this. The combustion can still happen in a vacuum. The core chemistry is the same as on Earth. There's no atmosphere, so there's no convection. The flame would be smaller, more spherical, and compact and less blowy than on earth because it wouldn't be pushing any air because there's
Starting point is 00:47:35 no air to carry the heat away yeah so basically it would light though especially you would need some sort of electrical lighter I suppose because it's not like you could I guess I don't know if a flint would even work I don't know these are these I don't know
Starting point is 00:47:50 these are problems for the people who make the big bucks yeah flint would work yeah flint would work whoever was responsible for the P-freeze should probably be fired. Like, they know it's cold up there. How could you possibly... How could you fuck that up?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Well, I think that's one of the emissions like this, so the next time they get a better fist nozzle. Yeah. Is it hot in space? There's just something to do with it. It's very cold in space. It's like 3 degrees Kelvin or something like that. But if the sun is shining on you,
Starting point is 00:48:24 you will be directly radiated by the sun to the tune of hundreds of degrees. Wait, so you would burn to death or you would die from radiation? I guess radiation takes a long time. You would be roasted. There was something, I was,
Starting point is 00:48:46 okay, I always thought it was cold in space. Always knew it was cold in space. You go to space, freeze, everyone knows that, etc., etc. The pee just froze. But there's something about, like, it burns spaceships not even
Starting point is 00:48:59 reentry but like in spaceship the radiation hits it and there's nothing no way for it to cool there's no like convection or anything that carries it away I think I miss sunlight yeah and it the heat and cold doesn't work
Starting point is 00:49:14 in space the way that we're used to it here at home so there's no conduction and no convection because it's in a vacuum but it's 250 degrees in the sunlight, which I would think is most places. Because these rays aren't heating the air. They're directly heating you. The same way a sunburn is a radiation burn. It's not caused by the heat of the air around you. It's caused by the radiation
Starting point is 00:49:41 from the sun, those UV rays and putting heat into you. If you get direct sunlight, it's very hot in space. But it doesn't have a very good way to transmit that heat. I don't know. There's a lot have to learn about this. But dealing with intense heat in space is one of the problems people have to solve. Maybe all they needed to do is twist the space station to expose the P to the sun.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah, that would have done. But then it would have like liquefied and like been like stuck to them. They didn't need a way to like get it off them. I don't know how they got it off. That's probably what they did. And then when they like vented it more, maybe they can just send air through and go out with a fan. Well, I guess it's not going to blow.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Shit. Remember the scene? for all mankind when they're on the moon and they have to make makeshift space suits to do like a run from one habit, one module to the other to save the world. And they just like, fuck it. And it's like 200 degrees
Starting point is 00:50:40 out there and they're makeshift suits and they're dying while they like save the world by like they're stopping like a, I think there's, oh there's a, they're using a nuclear reactor I think to warm and it's going critical or something. They're saving the world though. And they're burning alive as they do it because they're indirect
Starting point is 00:50:56 sunlight because it's sunrise on the moon. It seems like every space movie, there's always some space nerd who ruins it by being like, no, this isn't how it would actually go. And it's like, well, yeah, the way it would actually go is like, as soon as that malfunctions in a serious way, we're going to have a lot of dead people. Like, it doesn't, what's the NASA motto? It's like, keep working the problem. Always never stop working the problem, something like that.
Starting point is 00:51:22 It was coined by the, six of one. It was coined by the guy who was running NASA for Apollo 13. You know, that was his thing. He's like, keep working the problem or whatever. When they were trying to create a CO2 like filter out of just junk and duct tape. I feel like they get out of it. They always have, except for that time they burnt alive on the launch pad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:46 That would be the worst way to burn alive on a space mission. Like, much preferred to make it to space at least. Yeah, I don't want to burn up in fucking Dallas. Yeah. So the NASA motto is for the benefit of all. However, Apollo 13, they said, let's work the problem, people. Let's not make things worse by guessing. And work the problem, solving what's in front of you,
Starting point is 00:52:11 stick to the process one step at a time, and focus on what we can control are all NASA-related things. I appreciate the science nerds who come on and picket sci-fi movies because we all do that with our own areas of expertise. There's a scene in the movie Anaconda. You probably remember this little gym. Jennifer Lopez is fighting a giant Anaconda. She has a bolt-action rifle.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And she's going, bang, bang, bang! And she's not, it's clearly, and I'm like, man, like, that's my, like, Neil deGrassey-Tyson moment. Actually, there's no air in space to carry the sound, so it would all be silent. Like, yeah, I like it better with the Pue, noises, but thanks. I feel like somebody else might say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Well, just give Jennifer Lopez the right gun, though. Like, shit like that hurts me. So I like, I like learning something. You know, look, I remember when Interstellar came out, I needed some help to, like, visualize that black hole and understand how the light was, like, being bent around the thing. So I was happy to have black science man break it down for it. Was that Matthew McConaughey?
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah. When he's flying around in a library. It's necessary. Yeah. Kyle's inspired me. I'm going to pick it the Eldon Ring movie over something. Dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Who's making them? That's got a good director. I picture Woody watching the accountant and being like, bullshit. Any actuary could have done this. They could have fixed a guy you can hold a conversation. It wasn't this rude.
Starting point is 00:53:40 That motherfucker, like, acted like he was a genius for thinking of the home office deduction and they didn't even qualify for the home office deduction. They just cheated on their taxes, which is not creative accounting or good accounting. It's just cheating on your taxes. Any idiot can cheat on their taxes. It takes a good accountant to find something that benefits you to just not pay your taxes. This is moronic. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:04 I should have picketed the accountant. You should have. Yeah, that was. Scarlin is making the it's like if you like look up like common tax deductions, I guarantee that's number one. It's the most common one of all time. I feel like the Hollywood script writer didn't do a lot of research into tax law to write that. And yeah, the Eldering movie has like a, that seems to be something they're doing seriously. It's not
Starting point is 00:54:31 some Jack Black silly thing. Like it is a I think they're looking to make serious movies. He's the guy who made Ex Machina annihilation that Civil War movie that was a little meh. He made warfare. I don't know if you ever saw warfare, that Navy SEAL movie.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's a true story. Fuck. It's so realistic. It's so realistic that it's like not fun to watch. It's about, I don't remember if they were Navy SEALs. It's about a team of like US troops in Iraq or somewhere and they get converged upon and everything goes to shit. And there's people getting their legs blown off and like serious intense combat. And it just, it's just one battle that for the for 90 minutes or something like that. And at the end of it, I was a little queasy.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'd seen so many dismembered people. I'd had enough. Nick Offerman is in Eldon Ring, but no one knows what he plays. I hope he's Alexander. That's who I want him to be. I don't know the characters. I look forward to that being my entryway into the Eldon Ring universe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah, if you ever want to play that game, call me. I'll get you started. Oh, I bet. Dude, I got dirty started in Marathon. And, dude, he's a pleasure to play with because his character is really low-ranked. And everyone we play against, like, I don't want to come off like I'm some professional gamer. But compared to these fuckers, I'm him. Like, you know, Dirty and our teammate, they pushed a team.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And I think they got like two kills or something. And unbeknownst to them, there was another team there. So the three of them wiped them out, leaving me in a 1v3. And then I just cleaned up the 1v3 by myself and revived my two. teammates which is a wonderful mechanic and dirty was so excited he's like oh my god i'm so fucking hard right now like a rock like a rock full mess go what he go and it was like he couldn't ask for better like you know height man rb and the truth is the other people i killed were just low skill but um he told me he told me that story he he's like what he's pretty good he's been fucking grinding
Starting point is 00:56:48 picked us all up. I'll say this, though. He runs that team with an iron fist. He does not like when I gamble on the other monitor. Maybe that's a flaw I need to work on. No, no, he liked it. He's like, he takes that shit serious. There's no dicking around. Yeah, no, dirty's really good at shooters, but he's new to this game. So in marathon, I'm just so much more experienced. I'm probably a better player, but he's a very good gamer, and I was hoping to get him hooked.
Starting point is 00:57:28 He has a great time when we play, but then I see him on Steam open a different game, and I'm like, you fucking slut. We're in that same way. He came and played like three or four hours of ground, and he's like, this is a big boy game. You got a parry and dodge and duck and go for cover. I didn't know there was. And then the three-timing horror fires up a different game. He's cheating on both of us. Then he's on CSGO with a couple of autistic kids just clicking on heads with some 2000 Elo or
Starting point is 00:57:58 whatever the hell he is. He's never leaving CSGO. That'll be his mistress for life, I would say. That is the most popular game on Steam. And I know it's in its third revision, but it's basically a 20-year-old game, something like that. And it is number one in the world in the shooting world
Starting point is 00:58:18 in any game. Any game, I mean, I don't know that there's not more people playing Tetris on their phones or something. But in the Steam anyway, CounterStrike is always on top of the list. By a lot, too, when you see the list. Yeah, sometimes a double second place. Yeah. Now, I know games exist like League of Legends, for example, that aren't on Steam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:40 But I doubt it has bigger numbers. Yeah, League of Legends has always been so far for me. I don't know anybody who plays that. Like, I know the joke of people who are like, oh, never get into League of Legends or you'll never get out. Okay, well, but that's a game where I've watched gameplay before, like on YouTube. And I'm like, I don't, I can't even be, what, which character are we? Everything sparkling and gyrating. There's another Mova called Deadlock that I'm not good at it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I have like six or eight hours. But at least it made me understand mobas and why people get so mad at bad players. Like, let's pretend that you're much better than me, Taylor. If you have a teammate feeding me kills who just sucks so much, I get more powerful every time I win. Now I bully you in spite of the fact that you're much better than me. Now you have every right to be mad at your teammate because you're losing because he sucks so bad that neither of you can beat me.
Starting point is 00:59:45 He fed me. And then in leagues, some people feed on purpose and some people just suck. And people who just suck get accused of feeding on purpose, which somehow hurts more. Like, no, this is my best effort. Yeah. I'm giving it a go. Why would you feed on purpose? To troll your teammates.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah. Have you ever considered Rainbow sticks? Yes. Yeah. So the least experienced shooter guy in my friend group is the most experienced. in his other friend group. And he's like sherpaing people in Rainbow Six. And he offered to teach my friend and I, Rainbow Six.
Starting point is 01:00:22 We might play tonight. I don't know what we're playing tonight. I was going to say, that's like super competitive. And you build that knowledge base that, that like really levels you up as a player as much as clicking on head seemingly. And it's got the different characters with the different gear sets and all the, all the unlocks.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And it's got that really competitive, not ladder system, but ranking system where you kind of know, you're always trying to get to what if gold silver platinum and shit like that whenever i watch that game and i see some guy hear footsteps above him and then blast out the ceiling and get a kill i'm like this game must take so long to learn some guy like jumps on the antenna on an outdoor shed shoots through a boarded up window that gives him this little tiny peephole into the house and then he gets kills through that peephole i'm like oh my the amount of angles and lines of sight and just things that you can do.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I don't even know what's breakable and what's not. It looks very complicated to learn. So what Wings has been into for a long time, right? He's been into it for a long time. Yeah. I don't know how good he is. I'm sure he's good because he has so many hours. But you need a team.
Starting point is 01:01:37 You need a team. And I, you know, he's just, there's a lot of drama around Wings and his teammates always. yeah he's probably get some people trolling him from time oh yeah that too yeah so i didn't even in my mind i wasn't giving him that benefit but you're right uh he i'm sure he deserves it party uh who knows he gets in all sorts of hijinks but yeah that one came to mind when i'm thinking of you i know you like competitive stuff and you probably yeah toward the end of your chain on marathon it's a month away from the white and as a tarcalf player you understand that like once you finally you're the dog that catches the car i'm so wealthy now i like oh did you lose your super purple
Starting point is 01:02:19 shield i'm down to nine now like it's hardly an issue um i'm i you almost have nothing to quest for nothing you're not chasing anything anymore uh i've 100 percent at every i'll call it a vendor to you know every faction i'm leveled up and that um at this point i'm like i have all the good titles i'm chasing silly ones like hey stranger here's a gun I need you to kill five bots it's the last thing left in my title you where a stranger gets kills with my gun um I I guess I don't want to admit that like I'm less passionate about it because I just don't want to I don't know I don't want that to be true but it's a little true and the wipes about a month away so you did all the content you need more content I think games like that like once I've done the content I'm
Starting point is 01:03:11 I'll step away and the new content's coming. That's the great thing about PC games. And I like early access. This grounded game for the last eight months. It seems like every two or three months, here's a whole new chapter to do. Here's another 25 hours worth of 30 hours worth of like story and questing to do and content and materials and weapons and stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:33 So I like that. I step away from games all the time and they come back to a month later. I'll go back to phasmophobia when it has this next update and had some stuff. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to admit that my mind is open to a new game yet. I want a marathon's so good.
Starting point is 01:03:51 It's so good. I liked being there. But you know how it is. Like two thirds through a wipe when you're really on top of the world. Now, if you want to like dip your toes in rust, like me and scum are always up to do some rusting. We could do lighthearted rusting, you know. What is that?
Starting point is 01:04:10 like nine hours a day? No. I mean, for us, yeah, but we, we could do something where like,
Starting point is 01:04:17 we fuck around in a server where you can just drop in very quickly get going and kind of goof about. Or we can do a real rust wipe. We could play vanilla rust. And,
Starting point is 01:04:28 I mean, I don't know how much you played it since the updates. They've done some significant updates. I keep up with it through YouTube videos. I like to watch those guys like you. like I like print and
Starting point is 01:04:41 guys like that that make the big long format videos that are hours long and tell a whole story and that's what every wife is like like that is representative of what your experience will be there will be enemies that you know they're like yeah those river guys they're always stealing my pumpkins
Starting point is 01:04:56 oh yeah the guys who live up by domes oh yeah they're chill he gave me a level two work bench they weren't using like there's always like friends and enemies that you make and there's a whole social thing to it and you see there's a kill feed so you see when stuff's going on. And there's a public chat to,
Starting point is 01:05:12 a global chat where like all 200, 300 people in the server that they'll be making fun of people. And take like, hey, they'll be like, I'll give anyone who will tell me where lion slayer lives, 5,000, 5,000 fucking scrap.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Bounty on his head, I need the location. Give me the coordinates. And like shit like that'll be in the chat all the time. That privacy stuff is kind of neat. And that's one reason I felt like peanuts rust wasn't rust. He had all these rules and everyone was streamed. You know, you couldn't even start gathering gear for a raid without the other team knowing that you're gathering gear for a raid.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And they're not even cheating on purpose. Like, you just keep an eye on your chat and you can't stop them from telling you things. Yeah, that's not real rust. Exactly. The closest thing we do that to that, we'll go online and we'll watch for when they go offline. Like if we've got beef with guys, we look up their Steam ID and we go online and we wait until they go offline for the night. Then we give it a couple hours. Make sure they're good tucked away.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Now they've got a system where you can set up an alarm in your base. It's technical. You need batteries and solar powers and wiring that you all do manually. It'll text your real world cell phone when you're getting rated because you've got detectors in the game. So like that's put a bit of a curb on that. But you can, if you get in fast enough, it's over. where your base was slightly more durable when you're offline. Like 50% more durable.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That'd be bad? I wouldn't like it because I like offline rating people and building your base so that it's, the idea is that your base costs more to get into than it's worth. But doing that as cheaply as possible because you not only have to farm the resources to craft your base, it eats, there's something called upkeep. So if my base is made out of 10 stones, one piece of metal and five pieces of wood, every day it's going to require, it's going to eat two pieces
Starting point is 01:07:11 of stone and half a piece of metal and 2.5 pieces of wood and I have to keep putting that, feeding it almost into a furnace that that's this tool cover. It's the tool chest right. And so that makes people keep grinding and it also limits the size of your base
Starting point is 01:07:25 even if you have infinite mats or even if you've crafted up a lot of mats. You don't want to make a super big giant base because you have to pay that upkeep and that's grinding time. That's out hitting stones and chopping trees and stuff. I still think it's a concept, right? Like if your base had one third less durability when you had a team online.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Like, oh, all right. So now online raids are almost as viable as offline raids. Like, let's talk. That could be interesting. I don't know. I'd have to see it balanced. The way it is now, yeah. The way it is now we get in. So, like, if we're going to offline you, we're not going to spend a lot of time doing it. We're going to be like, all right, on the count of three, everyone shoot a rocket. And then we're just going to like rain rockets into the core of your base. and by the time, if it takes you five minutes to get on, it's probably too late.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Like, you're getting on. Your walls are open and we're taking control of the base and sealing it behind us and deleting your privileges in the base from the cupboard, putting our own cupboard in. Like, we have built privilege now. We own your doors. Like, it's kind of over. And then they quit until the next wipe. Or find a new server, you know?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Like, there are servers that the big wipe day is Thursdays, which has always made it difficult because we record on Thursdays. for me to put that full grind in. So I like to do Monday wipes. So like Monday at noon, the whole server wipes and everybody starts that grind. You're also, you are playing with no lives because these are the people who have all week ahead of them with nothing to do but play Rust. I wonder, like, you probably pay for the Rust server.
Starting point is 01:08:57 But you spend five bucks a wipe, would you say? It depends what kind of server. The most we've done is paid for like VIP. so that we skip the queue when you're logging in. So it'll have a cap of 200, 400 players. And there's a queue lined up. There's something called Skin Box that lets you like, but I think they did away with it so they could like make more from their skin market.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Because Russ sells skins and there's an economy for them and gambling for them, just like CSGO. And there used to be a mod called SkinBox where on these private servers, you pay them a couple bucks for the month and you'd be able to skin your gun or anything in the world however you wanted infinitely but i think they did mostly away with that but yeah five bucks a month would be a like just to get that VIP thing so you know you can get right in and start playing and not wait um in a queue but i don't pay for like pay to win shit at all anything like i was just daydreaming about being a server owner again like ah you know what if if i had 200 people
Starting point is 01:09:59 paying me five bucks a week i wouldn't hate that what about 3,000 people paying 5 bucks a week we've looked into it a few times. Basically, like, the business model isn't there the way it is for Minecraft is what we've always been told by people, but they may just want to keep us from making money. You're like, oh, you'd be a server owner like me?
Starting point is 01:10:19 Oh, you'd hate it. You'd hate it. It's nothing about infinite hours and almost no money. And it's like, I don't believe you, Sudden. I think it might be very few hours in infinite money. but I've never spent a lot of money in them so it leads me to believe that like most people don't
Starting point is 01:10:40 but if you want to, there are pay to win servers but I don't know it just doesn't make make sense to me I don't like games that are pay to win like I don't want to pay to win I feel like the community turned against pay to win a good 10 or 15 years ago and but when I own Minecraft
Starting point is 01:10:59 that was like a pay to win was fairly common Maybe it maybe had a negative tone to it, but if we wanted to do a server, or if you wanted to do the server, GTA 6 is the place to do it. GTA 6 is the place to do it. It'll have all the freshest anti-cheat shit and like ruin people's good time experience stuff coated into it. It'll be the hottest, freshest thing. You'll be on console. That's the problem. Actually, I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 01:11:31 DC comes out like a couple months after, but who knows? A year or 18 months. Yeah, it was 18 months for five. So people using that as a baseline for six. Yeah. We don't know though. And one of the creators was like, yeah, that's our core audience that we owe loyalty to. They're getting preferential treatment.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's like, fuck, just set it. Yes. Yeah, and I feel like they're missing out. Like Xbox is dying, maybe. Something's bad happening in the Xbox world. PlayStation is whatever, and PC is so much more important than it once was. I think it's just different types of gamers. Like a lot of the people who play GTA on Xbox are the same people who play
Starting point is 01:12:13 like FIFA or NCAA or like sports games, things like that that are bigger on console. That's my understanding of it. But, you know, again, using my biased frame of reference, like, if you asked me, I'd be like, oh, well, 14 out of every 15 gamers are PC. I think Marathon, Bungee said 80% of their player base was PC, which Oh, wow. Makes the steam numbers that much worse. Yeah, but, you know, if that, maybe that's typical for more hardcore game.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, those roleplay servers are definitely a way to, to like, make money. I see people doing that. People get invested in those and it becomes the only server they play on, I think. Well, it's time for me to shrink on down and fight some bugs. Good luck with that. I hope buggy treat you well.
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