Painkiller Already - PKN 621

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In 621. How you boys doing? Kyle, you recovering financially from your loss this weekend? Yes, I owe you $5. I should have been a no contest, though. I was like, do I pay him if it's a no contest? I think he was like double for a loss like that. Connor was wrecked.
Starting point is 00:00:19 He was ruined. Just looking at his face, I was like, oh, my God, this guy is age 15 years the last five years. He looks bad. He looks like shit. Now, from the neck down, he looks like Hollywood good, but it doesn't look like a fighter anymore. He's not a fucking fighter, clearly.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I would have won that fight if I was in the ring with Connor. Elliot Page would have won that fight. That's a discussion that's viral in the internet now. Could Elliot Page beat Connor McGregor on that night? No, Elliot Page is a tiny little trans man. Like, please, Connor beats himself. It's a good fight. I have never been as disappointed at a sports thing as I was.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I was sitting there with my girlfriend. we watched the whole card and I mean we watched the early prelims we watched 14 fights or something like that and it's like 1130 at night and this thing is finally happening and I I was so disappointed she as soon as he threw that kick and his knee blew up I was just like oh no no no I guess not me I was fucking loving it I was in the call with the patrons and no one was really talking but I was typing in chat and I'm like this rapist is about to get what's coming to him you guys watch No one says the thing.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No one wants to defend a rapist like Connor McGregor, convicted rapist who rapes women. And civilly convicted. Civilly convicted. Right, right, right, right. He's a convicted rapist. He's a civil. I believe he was found to have done some naughtiness, as it's called in his land. And not only did he lose the fight, but I've been saying for years,
Starting point is 00:01:58 There isn't a guy at 155 because that's what he used to fight at in the UFC who can't beat Connor McGregor. Every fucking single person in the UFC could beat Connor McGreg. And the men's card. I don't think there's a fighter at any weight who can't beat Connor McGregor right now. This version of them. We don't know. Look. Carter's last relevant win was when Obama was president.
Starting point is 00:02:21 That was true last week too. That didn't age well. The betting odds were 50-50. you know, like, most of the bets went in on Connor and that shifted the odds, but still, a lot of people thought Drake bet a million on Connor. Isn't he like notorious for bad bets? It's known as the, there are two MMA curses that come from the top of my mind. So the first MMA curse is when you get featured on the cover of the UFC video game.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Those guys, and that always that same year, their downfall happens. It happened to Israel out of Sonia. It happened to Pereira. It's happened to a lot of people. And so Connor is on the cover and this year. But then the other curse is, help me, um, uh, Drake's bet. Drake's bet. Drake's betting on you.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Drake's always wrong. Drake must be $20 million of fake money that prize stake gives him to, or whatever, whoever it is. I saw the highlight of the fight and my thought, I didn't think Woody would be stoked on, not the highlight. I saw the whole fight in a very quick Twitter. clip and I thought of both of you immediately and I'm like oh man I feel bad for him this is their thing they've been looking forward to this
Starting point is 00:03:34 they're so bummed they didn't even have to have Woody and here's why like cheering for this and being happy for this is shooting yourself in the foot this is cutting off your nose despite your face nobody likes Connor and but and a lot of people
Starting point is 00:03:49 wanted to see him Ireland liked eating and and like I can understand wanting to see him get a beating but for the sport his win would have been huge. Like it would have brought so many new fans back into the fold who would have watched somebody watched Apollo Costa fight or something and now they're a fan and they're one of us and they're on the threads and the forums and they're they're buying merch and all the boats are rising.
Starting point is 00:04:13 There's no reality where Connor does any better than this. There's no real yet. Connor is washed five years ago. Come on. That's just in every other reality he does better than throwing one kick and blowing his me out. This is who he is. And that's why it's such a fun way to watch this asshole get what's coming to him. I don't understand this. He has one more fight on his contract, right? Yeah. And I bet he gets it. I bet he does it because what he really wants to do is have another fucking 30 second loss and then fight Jake Paul and get money fights like that. He's got to do non-real exhibition bullshit. Pacquiao sounds good. Jake Paul sounds good. He's going to fight people like that. Heck, he might fight Mayweather again. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:55 The two of them go out there. They'll hype up a fight. They'll make some money and they'll put on a terrible, terrible show. That's what Connor wants to do going forward. I agree with all that. So to watch people see who Connor is now, just a fucking drugged out, broken old man. That was a more delicious outcome than watching an actual fight. Now, if he had went out there and Holloway had just pummeled him for three rounds and Connor had submitted,
Starting point is 00:05:22 imagine if he tapped to strikes or something like that. You know what I mean? That's what you wanted. That's proving that all the things that you say about Connor, that he gets completely out class. Like he shouldn't have been in there with that man. What were we ever thinking? That was already proven.
Starting point is 00:05:36 That's what you wanted. It's not proven though. Like I didn't see a fight. There was no fight. This guy can't throw a kick with how tearing his ACL apart. I was broken and washed. You know that's factually not true because I'm sure you've seen the training videos. Did you watch the training videos and the like in the back room?
Starting point is 00:05:55 when he's throwing that exact same kick over and over. I think he might have hurt himself there because I saw a video of him taking his pants off or shoes off and he was like walking weird up to the ring. He stumbled a little bit as he took his shoe off. Like he stepped on his own heel of his shoe.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Why was he like distributing his weight that way? I don't know. He was taking his shoes with his feet. I'm a casual. But to me I saw that and even like, I don't give a fuck who wins or loses this fight. But I was like, that doesn't look right. The night of the fight too.
Starting point is 00:06:27 He's like, hey, our trucks are showing us this. And just like you said, if people didn't see this, right before he stepped into the octagon, he's like taking off his shoes. They check to make sure he has a cup on and his mouth guard in and stuff like that. And during that process, he kind of stumbled and his legs looked unsteady. Yeah. I've had a torn, not currently, but I've had a torn ACL for like a year and a half. I live with it. And it's like your legs are absolutely fine until you're asking.
Starting point is 00:06:53 to do a particular thing that they're not good at. Like, imagine jumping forward and stopping on two feet. You need an ACL for that, like a standing broad jump type thing. So it could be that like his walk was okay. And then he just did a weird thing and needed a knee that he didn't have. I don't know for sure. I don't know. He was he usually walks out in the ring with that like trademark weird swagger.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And he was like leaning to be true. For that theory to be true, he'd have to be. he'd have to be comfortable with jumping and landing on that knee so it separates visually for the cameras and dealing with that because that's what he did. For that theory to be true, he's blown his ACL out in practice or the lead up to this. And now he needs to go in there. So he gets to secures his paycheck, but he needs to fake an injury so that it's all kosher. Well, it wouldn't be fake.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It would be a real injury. No, no. He looked injured when he went in. I mean to say he needs to demonstrate the injury. No, he needs to fake the injury in there. He can't say my ACL's blown out, but I'm going to fight anyway. You mean exacerbate me. He can't say my ACL's blown out so I can't fight because then he doesn't get paid.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So the theory is that if what you say is true that he was previously injured is that he's securing his paycheck and then he's doing this silly kick where he lands and blows his right knee out on purpose to show that to like fake the injury that he already had, if that makes sense. To pretend like that is what's causing the injury. What you're saying would be to exacerbate an existing injury. All I'm saying, I don't know about the theory of him securing a paycheck. He didn't walk into the ring normal. He was distributing his weight weird.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Why do you think that he was walking like that? I don't know. He probably had something fucked up with his knee. Okay. Okay. So your theory is now that his knee was already blown out. And so he's only going, he's going in there with the intent to fake an injury. to pretend like it happened in the ring so he gets paid, not in practice, where he doesn't get paid. Can you fake an existing injury?
Starting point is 00:08:59 You're suggesting that. No, I'm saying that his injury exists, and then he went in anyway. His injury exists, he doesn't get $16 million. So he has to go in there and pretend like it happens in the cage. Are you following? No, his injury existed, and then he went into the cage. And in that world where his, injury already existed. He knows it existed, right?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Correct. It exists. It's not faking an existing injury. He can't fight on that. So the theory would be, if that's true, that he's the reason he's jumping and throwing this kick where he lands on the injured knee is to pretend like that is the cause of the knee injury. That way he gets his $16 million. That's why he would do all this. The argument is based on something that's off target, and it's this. You're allowed to fight with an injury. I see what you're saying. You're allowed to go in there compromised. And people do it all the time. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:09:58 They, because they lie, like Bisping did. Yeah, sure. But like, but like, fighter after fighter has been like, you know, how are you feeling tonight?
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm ready, right? They didn't say they felt good. They said they're going to do it, right? And it happens, like almost every fighter has something coming out of camp that bugs them. And the idea that you have to be
Starting point is 00:10:19 100% headed into the fight just is not true. A blown out. knee's not like a bruiser or staff infection though we'd agree on that that no one else has ever I can't even any other fighters who start a fight with a knee so compromised that they immediately fall down to the ground and have to quit which ties into my counter argument for what Taylor was saying it if he knew he had a bad knee I'm not he threw that kick at least twice it might have been three times like it there's the one where you could
Starting point is 00:10:49 really see the injury and then there was another one where he also fell on it his ass like a disabled man because he is and I'm like uh does he keep going for the bad kick if he knows that knee is bad like I don't know why he keeps throwing it unless he just wants out of the ring but you know Max Holloway is like this guy is fucking broken do you want me to keep whooping on him and Conner's like keep whoop in me and Max is like all right I'll kick his ass some more so he pounds him in the face Connor gets up again he pound again he falls because because he can't throw a kick. Connor,
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm sorry, Max hits him in the face again. Connor offered nothing all night long. And that's all Connor has to offer for the rest of his life. And it's a joy to me. I mean, if he said,
Starting point is 00:11:33 I just don't understand that. Your hate is blinding you. I don't understand. I think, why are you pro rapist? I'm not pro rapist. I'm pro-UFC. It seems like your point should have been.
Starting point is 00:11:46 You don't find the raped a thing to be a deal breaker. A deal breaker for, What? Like, I would like to see him out of the UFC. I would like to see him out of the public guy. I'd like to see him disgraced. And you're like, eh, nah, rapists are cool. You know, so long as they're good for the UFC. I said nothing of the sword. He didn't say that. And also, I don't understand why you're saying. I know that you didn't protest anywhere with a sign that said, keep Connor out. And I certainly didn't either because I think he's good for the sport. Protests are gay. True. I don't like Connor. I've said that plenty of times. You don't really get a pass if you've raped some.
Starting point is 00:12:21 somebody. He probably did. It really seems that way. But that is what the courts say. But once he's in the fight, like the best thing for the sport is for him to win the fight. Like that's, I don't know. I wanted him to win so that like all the boats fucking rise. I like, I don't know. I understand. I understand the point of view of wanting him to lose. Because like so many, that's what made Mayweather, money Mayweather is so many people hate him and want to watch him lose. Like that's perfectly acceptable Losing's not enough. I want to watch him
Starting point is 00:12:54 get disassembled. I want to watch him be sad. No wait. Exactly. I want to Right now I believe Connor McGregor is snorting his sorrows away. I bet he's turning back to the drugs. Right, he's
Starting point is 00:13:08 praying. He's in church. Sure, that's Connor. I believe that this guy is turning back to the demons that took him down this road. And I'm I hate this guy enough. He's a rapist right let's let's I don't know if I mentioned that yet that uh this is what he deserves he deserves to be like waking up in an alley as the dirty sewage water goes down the you know
Starting point is 00:13:31 in his sleeping area this is the life that conish well you do enough drugs and that is the life that you get I he'll die early I'm fine with that too this is a bad person who's only done bad things his entire life right he's awful to everyone around him and he deserves the worst things that can happen to a person. And that night is about as bad as his outing could have gone. I'm getting that you don't like him. Not too fond. But like you said like there's a better to disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:14:01 That'd be worse. I don't think so. I think this is the worst possible outcome. If I'm Dana, I'm not sure I even want him for the last fight of the contract. Just go away. What are you talking about? You know what's coming with that next fight.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Still a huge name. They set records on that night. What records did they say? Attendance like money. They made $26 million on the seat. It's the biggest ever. I was thinking to myself, like if I'm one of those Irish fans that Connor had, so upset, the rapist apologists, do I fly from Ireland next time knowing what Connor brings at the table? Connor has ruined his value and his aura as much as he possibly could have.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I think that's the opposite. I don't know. I think these are, this is the best way he could have possibly lost because to me it says nothing about like what fighting skill he has, as far as his punches and kicks and like how he moves in there and or his durability like like like his from concussions obviously obviously he's got some durability down on his on his legs that we've got to deal with but if that knee heals up and he he's back in the cage in eight or nine months i don't i still don't know what what he is i don't know that he's a zero i know he's not a 10 but i'm not sure he that he's a zero i think he might be a four or five you know what he is he's 38
Starting point is 00:15:18 Today's his birthday. He's 38 years old. He's not coming back. He is not coming back from this. The champion of the world is 37. Connor's not the champion of the world. Connor has a lot of miles on him. He's been snorling those miles. Well, I mean, he also, he had a he had steroid face.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He had like hardcore steroid face where his body looked awesome, but his face looked like steroid-aged. 65 years old. Liver King. ask, but I feel like Kyle's point is correct in that like if his knee hadn't exploded, he could have won. And then people would be saying, oh, he still got it. Right. Like, because that was supposed to be the, the tale of the tape, right? Like, he was the favorite, I think. Oh, no, no, no. No, no. Oh, Holloway was. Okay. So, so the betting odds, there's so many casuals that bet on Connor that that shifts the odds because so they've got to protect their money so
Starting point is 00:16:20 they move the odds more in his favor I knew all along that he was a a pretty big underdog I would think like a two to one two and a half to one like maybe a three to one if I were taking bets if I were taking bets I'd probably say like two seven five or three to one or something because I did max is a hell of a fighter and he's kind of find someone who met me straight up yeah that's what I did Max Holloway's nose has been broken so many times. It's taken almost a new shape of nose. I really like Max Holloway. You know what?
Starting point is 00:16:54 His stock, I've always liked Max Hollowies. It's been one of my favorite favorite fighters to watch. And then I watched him live stream with burnt peanut. That dude's funny. He's like, burnt peanut is pretty good at dishing it out. Max Holloway was dishing it out.
Starting point is 00:17:08 He was like hitting Burt Peanut in his like sore spots and his weaknesses. And he was really good at Apex Legends. And I'm like, I like this guy. I just like this guy that much more now. He's cool to listen to. And Conner's not. Connor just says the same overly cocky shit for fucking 20 years now. You watch the press conferences.
Starting point is 00:17:26 They were good. He sang songs. Were they good songs? Was he a good singer? Or was he more chanting? Better than you think. You know how like when people that have that accent starts singing and it sort of goes away somewhere. During that tour allure lura thing.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Oh, it was beautiful. I did miss the singing. nose. This is Jack Delamana. Yes. He might have the worst nose in UFC. Can you zoom in on that, Zach? Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, his nose. I mean, that's a snore. That guy's something. He makes Rod Brindamore look okay. Get fixed. Yeah, I'm imagining the right hand that did that. It's a cross from right to left.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You must have got hit by a big guy, huh? Oh my god. It's almost it's his nose is like in italic. It's so swish. I would get that fixed post career. I think you can get it. It's so bad. He should get it fixed post-fight.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Like it's disfiguring. Yeah, he's only getting one good nostril. I don't know. Oh, that's a good point too. For the breathing, he has to be a mouth breather almost by definition, which gets your jaw broke in and knocked out and stuff. What was I going to say? Oh, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Like, you know how you have plastic surgery in the same place repeatedly? It starts going poorly. That was what was in my head when I was like, if you only get one, save it for the end of your career. If you can get repeats, I didn't need to go in his nostril with a bar and just push it back over. And like, I think there's like manual manipulation that they can do. I don't think they need to cut him.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like his is just over there. They just need to bring it back over. You just crackle effect. You think they just break it, reset it, and hope it is. And then they can get it. Mine was broken up here. And like, I don't know, the plate that is right here was separated from the main bridge of the nose and like depressed in. And they just went in and pushed it back where it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You know, it was great. They did a good job. Like, like those catacombs in France or under Paris or whatever where you see all those hundreds and thousands of skulls or you just see one. in a museum, just a regular skull. Do you guys ever think, like, how would my skull look? Like, would it be a good, would it be a museum worthy skull? For sure, for sure. I can imagine them being like, we're really baffled by this one.
Starting point is 00:20:00 The carbon dating says 2030 or whenever you die, I don't know. Let's do 2040. Thanks for that. Yeah, I gave you 10 more. but the carving dates is 2040 but this head is clearly from like the protozoic era very pronounced row almost overhanging it like an awning
Starting point is 00:20:25 yeah I always wonder that like what if I have a weird nodule on my skull I've never felt and it wouldn't be museum worthy and they'd be like this one goes in the fucking trash grind that up into Alpo and feed it to dogs I'm Remember when Strickland won Kyle and
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'll make it up like Thursday or something or a half a week later you're like I'm still kind of riding the high from this it makes me feel good to know that that happened You still riding the high
Starting point is 00:20:57 That's how I feel I was just in the shower today randomly being like Connor got fucking smoked I bet he could Shepard a boot or something funny ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm so surprised
Starting point is 00:21:09 I would think worse for him I figured both of you would want a big long fight because it was so anticipated. I could see enjoying a big beatdown like that where there was just a one-sided display of skills and a display of lack of skills. I could see liking that. But this, Connor being washed as washed as anyone has ever been. But it's not that. In the first scenario, if he gets just beat the shit out of him and he has nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:38 That's what happened to him. he was on his ass trying to talk shit with a broken leg. His leg snapped, you know? Oh, I saw that. That was ugly. That legs given him trouble. That's an example of a good loss for Connor where it's like, man, if Porre was beating it.
Starting point is 00:21:54 If Porier had just gone another round and a half and knock Connor out, you would have been able to say, oh, Porier smoked Connor. You can't really say that now because the defenders will say, well, yeah, his leg broke on him. That's not on him. And then he talked shit sitting there with a broke leg. That was badass. they've got that to hang their ad on. This is the same thing.
Starting point is 00:22:12 If he'd gotten smoked, there might not be enough. These are facts. No, it's not. These are opinions. And the thing is, if you're trying to look at what people say about this. This is exactly the take that Connor defenders have.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That like nothing is definitive about that at all. He didn't get to compete. It would be, it's barely different than if he got in a car accident on the way to the ring. So Porre fights Connor Porre beats the fuck out of him
Starting point is 00:22:43 Porreier gives him a rematch Porreier beats the fuck out of him and in the process breaks his leg and your argument is well you know
Starting point is 00:22:52 we don't know how it would have went if Corre didn't break his leg and then he fights again Connor can barely even throw a kick without tearing his own ACL out if it wasn't torn out beforehand not even barely okay fair enough
Starting point is 00:23:06 and And I'm like, dude, this guy is not a professional athlete anymore. He doesn't belong in the octagon with real fighters. I don't think you would have that same take if it were like a fighter that you liked. I don't know. I would. I would. And by the way, he turned 38 today.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Right? He turned 38 and he's headed into an ACL surgery. But the same thing happened to Justin Geichie. Then I would say in a kinder way that he's also. washed and that he needs to stop fighting. I would be like, Gachie, it's been a great one. Call it a career, bro. I liked watching you fight.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Don't like watching your fight going further. Gachie's out of fight offenses bother me just as much as Connors do. Like rubbing shoulders with those warlords over there, I don't like that at all. And I also don't like his manager is that Ali guy who's literally like a 9-11 conspirator. Well, I forgot that. like that that like I I the thing about the rape thing is I have heard that there's conflicting reports and like they were in a bathroom
Starting point is 00:24:16 together I guess um and then it did go to civil case so I'm like I mean there's a couple women that accuse Connor rape have they and one one of yeah one's uh prevailed in court so okay I'm 70% sure Connor is guilty like Cosby 100% OJ 95 Connor, I'm at 70. You're throwing a 95 at O.J.? I've told you my theory that it could have been OJ's son, and that explains why he was like poor at defending himself at times,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and his alibis and stories didn't make a lot of sense, and why the DNA was in his house and on his car. Like, his son could have done it, and his son had reasons to, like, hate her. You know, she's kicked his dad out of the house. She's cuckleding him with a Jew. You know, I could see the son going over there and getting rowdy, and maybe that waiter shoves him or something like that,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and then he starts carving him up. OJ finds this scene. The son calls OJ and tells him what happened. He's like, just clean up his best you can. I'm coming home. I could see something like that maybe happening, whatever the timeline is.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It's been a while. So I'm like 95 on OJ. I mean, that's pretty high. That's pretty high. It's not the jury. I convict him. I convicted 95. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It's a clean A. Not a plus your mind. There's a chance. They're clean. okay but anyway Connor's going to get that next fight no matter what
Starting point is 00:25:41 I hope it's Chandler because Chandler deserves the red panty night I know Max Holloway said that that was the biggest payday of his career you know that that 120 seconds versus Connor where he didn't get touched once like good for him
Starting point is 00:25:56 yeah good for him if nothing else and then like Patty Timbley came out and like did a brand new fucking submission. I didn't understand what I was looking at when I watched that little question. Which is hilarious. The padlock? Oh, that's perfect. He was like
Starting point is 00:26:13 curled up like he was about to leap, but also had both arms wrapped around the guy. That was He was like if a gargle had a guy in his go and wouldn't let go, like when he's perched on a building. I looked it up. OJ's son was at work during the murder. Like there are a lot of people who knew where he
Starting point is 00:26:29 was. He was a chef. He doesn't work alone. He's got a really solid alibi. Does that bump it up? Do we get to an A-plus now? Maybe in my own research. I'm wondering if there's more sons than one. I know he had a few kids. I didn't look at that.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I don't remember what OJ's exact alibi was, where he supposedly was during the motion of the world. I think OJ said that he was practicing golfing at night in his yard. I know he got in a car and went to the airport and flew out of town. Like he was a practicing golf you guys aren't golfers Woody You don't want to be able to see where your ball went He's putting
Starting point is 00:27:08 I would take away from the scavenger hunt part of golfing Exactly Everyone likes so much He was vibe training The man has his own putting green You don't think you think OJ Simpson can afford a little lighting on his own private Pudding Green I'm just saying 95%
Starting point is 00:27:25 If the glove don't fit You left a my yard Badly in need of a mo also your own putting green you wouldn't spend much that's like a novelty thing you wouldn't even spend much time practicing on that because actual greens are on ground which means all of them have different little minor slopes and leans and and they change the whole location from time to time like there's the 14th hole at augusta as his putting green because that one gives him trouble does it it's a it's a bit of a slope you know it doesn't give us trouble, a big old knife. No, he can handle that like a He can get a good purchase on that. At some point I tossed him a knife
Starting point is 00:28:08 and he'd have caught it like fucking Chronicles of Riddick or something and spun it around two or three times. And I'd be like, ah! Did you see that? He told you, he had given that knife. He had literally been part of this Navy SEAL show where he received knife combat training like a month or two prior.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Like they taught him to kill someone with a knife Like like recently OJ, I know those dummies are expensive His son Did you Do you guys think there could be foul play on the Lindsay Graham death? No I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:47 I haven't spent any time looking into it But he was 71 Apparently both of his parents died Semi young as well torn aorta. And he was on a couple of gigantic flights. And I think, at least I heard,
Starting point is 00:29:04 maybe I'm wrong, that this can cause like blood clots to detach. And like on a flight once you, if you're doing a lot and then you get off. Yeah. I did hear that the schedule, like staying up, the jet lag,
Starting point is 00:29:17 all that stuff is a stressor. And then like you said, the flights themselves, maybe the altitude changes, I don't know, are a stressor for him. And that makes perfect sense. if you were to frame it as just for fun oh yeah here's a guy who is the chief cheerleader
Starting point is 00:29:32 against russia and against iran two countries that kind of like to murder people and he flies overseas and then comes back and dies of some mysterious heart ailment like that's how russia does things i really know about successful iranian murders but it's like this is the kind of shit russia pulls off i'm not saying it happened and I struggle to balance skepticism, right? You have some people who think the earth is flat, that Elvis is still alive, that Michelle Obama's a man, and every other bit of wackadoo nonsense out there,
Starting point is 00:30:09 and they're obviously crazy. And then you have other people who just never have any skepticism at all, and they're easy to fool. You just tell them what you want them to think. I enjoy conspiracies, and there's plenty I believe in. Is there anything out of you? There has to be a distinct party to gain from it in an immediate sense. Like what I said, he's a warhawk against those.
Starting point is 00:30:35 This is the guy who gets defense spending. And I remember when we were giving money to Ukraine, he's in Ukraine being like, man, you guys have killed so many Russians. You've blown up so many tanks. This is the best money I've ever spent. You got to do the voice, Woody. That's motive. That's fair. Leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:30:54 That was my accident. I can't believe you. I would be if any idea. When Russia knows that we have diplomats in an area or even soldiers,
Starting point is 00:31:07 like U.S. soldiers, not Ukrainian ones, they don't give a fuck about them. They'll even like send messages, like get the fuck out of this area. This happened in Syria multiple times where they were like, hey, US, FYI,
Starting point is 00:31:19 you got anybody there? Get them out by like 4 p.m. And we'll do the same to them. covert though. Like Woody, Woody's not suggesting that Russia would shoot him with a missile. It could precipitate a war. Or attention, given a... Unless you do it like this, though.
Starting point is 00:31:38 So why would Russia be incentivized to kill him if they know that that could precipitate more money and funding and, you know... Well, if they get away with him, then they've removed one of the loudest voices for funding Ukraine. Yeah. And they didn't shoot, you know, they didn't like shoot a missile that says Russia on the side. of it. Somehow his aorta got all tore up inside of his body. Yeah, you know. It went to like 8,000 feet altitude,
Starting point is 00:32:04 the equivalent in a plane, you know, because it's I heard he had like heart disease. He's a 71 year old man. He's clearly like a weak little fop of a dude. So like, there are a lot of things that like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't let you finish. But I just think he looks like the type that drops over from a bad heart,
Starting point is 00:32:20 you know? Yeah. Yeah. If if a dude over 70 dies suddenly, I don't. normally jump straight to like ah ha ha ha that doesn't sound right no it does it does sam neil we lost sam neil this week and also uh dr grant remember that 71 is like 160 in gay years are you see i i think you're dead backwards on that that's like 45 in gay years that's a man who hasn't been hassled by a woman his whole life he hasn't been nagged once gay people die earlier
Starting point is 00:32:56 because of all the partners and the drugs yeah yeah when you do it that way so did pool owners but I think we can get away with having a pool and not dying early as long as we're careful right well Glennzie Griffin died of AIDS is my point obviously nobody dies of AIDS anymore
Starting point is 00:33:13 but I don't think that'd kill you I didn't give you cancer but it doesn't sound like conflicting messages he didn't go out from cancer it wasn't cancer his a order got all tore up and There wasn't cancer as far as we know. If there was something weird about it, I'd be super open to the idea of the conspiracy. I think Mitch McConnell's got a monkey's paw where he's like, don't let me be the next one.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And then he might seem to have it. I bet Mitch McConnell's in a coma or something. Like, they won't tell us what's going on. Pictures is not real. I haven't seen a photograph of him. I saw some memes of him and maybe one of them. He was like holding proof of life. But I thought that was literally a joke meme like AI made.
Starting point is 00:33:50 No, that was a picture. And he's wearing a. shirt with like red stripes but in like two directions what do you call that red checkers but it's not checkers okay yeah and um hospital bed well i think he stood up or he was in a wheelchair okay hospital chair like the other i see it now okay okay yeah so people have taken that picture and found him in that shirt from 2023 yeah and the folds around the neck are exactly the same implying some sort of like photoshop or ai but But I'm super bad at this.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I can only do it with people. Who's the source there, Zach? That's super important to all this to me. And he's very tactically holding that day's newspaper. So it's straight from the horse's mouth, as it were. So I like your theory and your evidence. However, if he owns that shirt, who's to say he wouldn't wear it twice? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Like, I've seen y'all wearing them Amazon shirts. I wear this thing every fucking week. You know, I could see a guy wearing the same shirt twice. And as far as the folds in an old man's neck, the collar, this should not his body. Okay, okay, that's, that's actually better. Because if you were measuring the folds of his neck, I'd be like, I just think that's how his folds lie. All right. If the collars must up the same way, that could convince me of something. The exact same way. And also the shirt from the source picture, this is the people who are better at this than me. I'm only parroting. It was like closer.
Starting point is 00:35:23 so his head fills out the neck much better in the original photo. Whereas this one, his head doesn't fit the neck quite the same way and it's consistent with the way they did it. I don't know. It is really suspicious. If the whole world suspected I was dead or infirmed or something and I could just make like a 15 second voicemail to prove them wrong
Starting point is 00:35:47 or, you know, like I send out my condolences verbally to Lindsay Graham's family, right? Something like that. That would like fix this. Or if he is as good, everyone's saying they're having these 20 minute policy discussions with him. I don't know if you saw that. I saw that, yeah. Four Republicans or something all came out and said they talked to him for
Starting point is 00:36:06 20 minutes. And the right one is AI. Right. Is it okay? I don't know. I'm not unfamiliar with this. 100% it is. Obviously, yes. One of the right is the fake. Right. That's not the source picture I was talking about. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:36:22 But anyway, I lost I got derailed. You're talking about, oh, I would just prove I was alive. It's so easy to do. If he's as healthy as they say he is and he's having like 20 minute calls, I don't know what that was.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Beginning of a decent. Okay. Yeah, I see what you mean. It's so easy to prove he's alive and he hasn't done it. That's suspicious. And they're putting out what seemed to be a bunch of lies about him having like hours worth of phone calls with all these Republican operators. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:00 He was, he fell to the ground awkwardly. Yes. Yeah, these people are falling constantly. He was, like someone was harassing him a little bit, like some sort of reporter.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And he was, at first an usher was sort of holding his bicep to help him. And he sort of like, it seemed to me that he didn't want to be escorted with the camera on him from this like paparazzi-esque guy. And as soon as the guy let go of him, he tumbled to the ground. And to be fair, he got up with a smile
Starting point is 00:37:30 and cracked a little joke and then stumbled away. But like, I could totally see him being infirmed right now or like intubated even. We live in a gerontocracy. Do you remember when they were like, I've never heard that, but it's great. I was like, do you remember, like, this was a year or two ago at this point,
Starting point is 00:37:46 but they were like, everyone should celebrate Diane Feinstein for recovery. and then they were wheeling her through and she looked like one of those restless draggers that's sitting in a throne in Skyrim that when you enter the room it goes right?
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah. Between Joe Biden himself and Feinstein I don't think the Democrats have a strong leg to say it's not both sides. Nobody goes. None of us do. They're old as fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And it's crazy because there's young people who are like fired up about this shit and like on both sides. There are young. energetic people who are passionate about they're skipping gen x dude i forget we're just skipping committee it was but a OC asked for like a good committee appointment uh at the start of this term which is almost over and uh hakeem jeffreys is like nope you'll have to wait your turn and he gave it to some like 77 year old dude who died a few months later it's like what the fuck she was like
Starting point is 00:38:45 give me this give me this i want to do some change now i don't agree with all of aOC's policies but I do like someone who's, like, enthusiastic about doing something. And as opposed to a guy who literally a few months from death. And also, like, let's not discount the fact that a passionate AOC is going to do infinitely more work toward whatever her goal is than a 71-year-old fogy. That's bad if you don't like her goals and aspirations. Well, the same is true for, like, whatever the young hot shot conservative guy is that you, that you would love. I don't even know who that would be. And touting conservatism and old school America or whatever, nationalism and such.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Any good ones? I think of the Republican comparison is Massey, who's on his way out. But like Massey is another guy who, like I don't agree with all his policies, but I do think that he is doing what he thinks is right. We don't see eye to eye, but he's operating from a place of right and wrong. And if both sides did that, it'd be better, as opposed to a place of like self-dealing, and increasing power and ensuring their re-elections, like so many of them are. I do like that.
Starting point is 00:39:57 He has to shit or get off the pot with his like list stuff because he'll keep saying. He's out of office. What are you talking about? I've got 20. No, he's until January. Yeah, he's until January. He's voted out. He's on his way out.
Starting point is 00:40:12 He's finishing his primary. He finishes the term. And he's always saying like, I got a list of 20 people. You're going to love it. And he's literally like like, like, principal Skinner that Simpson's meme where he's like the Aurora Borealis
Starting point is 00:40:27 located in your kitchen. May I see it? No. It's like Thomas like release it or just say, oh no. Old Woody's with Lucy in the football. And now there's your principal Skinner. Like referenced in the same thing.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Steamed hams. It's steamed hams. It's a little deep internet. Yeah. It's like release the fucking list if you got it. And if not, and you're just like holding that football for us, then just like, then stop saying you're going to release it. Stop it. He's going to stop in January. I guarantee it. He'll be moving on to his. Do it now. He's already lost. He lost months ago. He isn't one
Starting point is 00:41:07 to rob anybody the wrong way. He's about to get a big job. I bet right now he's trying to see who's going to hire him to keep his mouth shut about his big list, right? I bet he gets a nice job after in January. It's not like it's his list. They all have that. they all would have access to this list. It's not like he's got it like tucked in a cupboard under his bedside table. I'm sure everybody's aorrs will be just fine if they start talking about who's on the list. I mean, they won't because, you know, our greatest ally really wants to maintain that blackmail. And so, like, release the list or stop harping about it.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's like enough. Like release. There's no list. There is no list. Yeah, there probably is no list. It's probably, we've probably been hoodwinked yet again. Yeah, but I'm, I'm. I'm also tired of the old people.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I don't know why you know, whatever. Like there's no list. Like there's, he doesn't have a, like, like he doesn't have some secret list of names that he's like. He worked with the victims, right?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Like, he spent time interviewing, talking to the victims. There was like a gang of people. I mean, I think Marjor Taylor Green, Massey. Can't name.
Starting point is 00:42:09 There's some blue people on the side too. I don't think he has any names that we don't. But also like, we also need to be, I guess, practical instead of hopeful in that like, all of this Epstein stuff was fully available and there for this entire administration, the entire Biden administration,
Starting point is 00:42:27 the entire First Trump administration, both Obama administrations, the Bush administrations, and the Clinton administrations. And so all of them have covered this up. They have all covered, I mean, of course, during the Clinton administration, they continued, he continued to act. And so there were more things to be added. But they've, they've all had access to this stuff. Obama knew about it, Biden knew about it. Trump knows about it. Like Bush knew about it. And, And they've all hidden it. Around Epstein's first conviction, that to me is when it gets like really spicy. That's free Obama.
Starting point is 00:43:00 To me, it's the Mark 2. It's June 30th, 2008. So Obama's been in office for six months at that point. So Obama had all that. And he sat on it and hit it. Well, I'm not sure it rose to the level of Obama's desk at that point because he'd been convicted in a court in Florida, right? He'd been let off. He got like the most joke
Starting point is 00:43:23 sentence ever. It was like, hey, only Pennis out of Tuesdays. How do Obama know that Epstein who Epstein is and like what he's about and what he does? You think they aren't aware of like powerful foreign agents working amongst them?
Starting point is 00:43:37 I don't think the Barack Obama knew about the Epstein pedophile ring now. That's crazy. I don't think that he's in the circles. You don't think he's about like a Mossad agent? Of course they do. Like he's a, they tell everybody.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I'm saying that I don't think Obama knew that there was an Epstein child peddling ring and that he had a pedophile island and that he trafficked in women and that he was a misuse. I think they absolutely know how he would get to him. Like, how do you think it would get to him? His intelligence agents would tell him. They'd come to him with Epstein intelligence. Well, it wouldn't just be Epstein. So the CIA. Because we've known that Mossad has an outsized influence in our foreign policy and frankly a bit of domestic policy.
Starting point is 00:44:19 well as far as like shutting down protests and things at college universities like they've known this for decades and they never released any of it and so now i feel like i'm again as known to use woody's comparison they've known about these blackmail rings for years for decades okay well of of course they've known about the existence of a black male ring and that they occur but like i don't know how obama would learn anything his conviction was a guy that he should be focused on as president of the United States? Well, the president isn't the one with a magnifying glass looking at everything happening in the country.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's his intelligence agencies that would bring this to him. It would be the CIA. It would absolutely bring it to his attention. We've known about this for many administrations. Okay, well, I think there's tons of evidence that Epstein was some sort of a Mossad spy. I think there's tons of that, or a source or an agent or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And even that Galane Maxwell was his handler, if anything. But I think it's like circumstantial evidence. I haven't seen like black and, you know, black and white. We did see him wearing that massage shirt that time. But we don't know if that one was real. That's like this red striped shirt we just saw. He probably kissed the wall. Of course he did.
Starting point is 00:45:34 What I'm saying is like, I'm not sure there is hard evidence. And there would need to be hard evidence that the CIA had that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent. And then they would have to have some reason to go tell the president about that. Like, why would they care that there was a Mossad agent in the United States? sure there's lots of and we're okay with that. Yeah, they actually operate the second largest spy network of foreign interference in the U.S. behind China. And I doubt most of them are hiding from us. I'm sure it's a partnership where the FBI calls or the CIA calls Mossad on a regular
Starting point is 00:46:05 basis and back and forth. I'm not saying things aren't hidden and there are secrets that you don't have to even be a you don't have to be written in the Inc. Mossad agent in order to be influenced by them. They could even be, you know, working in plain sight. Like someone like I'll just make up a name. Howard Lutnik. Like you could just make up any, you know, someone like that. Not him, anyone like that. I don't think that Obama knew that there was a Mossad agent named Jeffrey Epstein
Starting point is 00:46:33 running a pedophile blackmail ring out of Florida. I think he absolutely would have known given his relationship with Bill Clinton. To me, the Epstein interest spiked in 2019, like when he was convicted for the, well, he was being tried for the second time? Was he convicted twice? I'm not sure. Or was he under, when he killed himself, why was he in jail? He died before the trial.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Okay, okay. Yeah. So the second time they caught him, I'll say. That to me is when like Epstein became a household name and the Epstein didn't kill himself. Memes went wild. And that, by the way, this is both sides. But that happened when Trump was president. And then Biden's whole presidency happened and now Trump's and they're hiding it.
Starting point is 00:47:17 So yeah, I don't predict a little more at 19 later. I see it as much. The fact that it became a household thing for us and for most people in 2019 doesn't mean previous administrations weren't aware of this. I think they certainly were. I think Obama two new. Obama one new. Bush too new. What was going on during Obama's term there when he was fighting the war against ISIS.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I think when the CIA would come to talk to the president, they were probably talking about drone strikes in the Middle East and Yes, ISIS, notoriously disconnected from Mossad. I don't know where you're going with that. I'm confused, aren't they? He doesn't believe in ISIS. He believes it's all Mossad. Everything is massad.
Starting point is 00:48:03 No, I didn't say that. ISIS is... He texted it to me just now. I texted it to him just now. Everything is Massad. No, it's not. Because that's stupid. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:48:16 being sold down the river here far too in depth to get into here on our silly little show but I will say that ISIS has attacked every single country in the Middle East at some time or another and the only country they sent an apology PR video to was when they accidentally struck Israel I just sort of thought ISIS and the Jewish people were not
Starting point is 00:48:46 allies. They're not. But like there are many instances where powers fund different rebel groups in order to cause strife in areas in order to justify further involvement. You think ISIS was funded by Israel? I don't know. Directly through America then, because that's where Israel gets their money. That is where they get their money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Fascinating stuff. Oh, Zach has a source here. I'm just looking at the URL. ISIS fighters regret attacking Israel. apologize defense minister okay the most hardcore islamic group in the world attacks the Jewish state and they're like
Starting point is 00:49:23 ooh we so sorry isn't this according to the Jewish state isn't this a piece released this is the Israeli defense minister staying that ISIS apologized to him why would he why would he admit that if this is all like because this isn't
Starting point is 00:49:40 like conspiracies aren't like a movie or video game or something where every or giant and groups of people are all in on the same thing. Oh, but the defense minister's in the know. There's convergent interests. Okay, self-contained sects with their own interests. Kyle's suggesting that you blame all of Israel.
Starting point is 00:50:01 No, I don't. I think you're being pedantic. I think you're trying not to understand things right now. You said you New York and Florida, got to go. What's wrong with Florida? He did say that. I got to stop texting you guys during the shelf and the West Bank of the South
Starting point is 00:50:21 and there's only one solution in 1940s and there's only one solution in the in the 2020s and I said please stop sending me these voicemails it's so incriminating and you and you sent me just the numbers 88 which I didn't I don't know what that meant Patrick Kane's number most
Starting point is 00:50:42 hated player on the Chicago Blackhawks I'm not understood the whole time that's his number? Yeah, that's Eric Lindrosse's number I think Eric Lindrosse Nothing against Eric Lindrosse
Starting point is 00:50:54 Like him See? Well So it's not all bad He was cool for your anti-Semitism I defend the Jewish state Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:51:03 We're not We're not their most important ally They're our most important ally Taylor We wouldn't have a country right now. I did see that quote. I don't remember which politician.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Lindsey Graham said that. And Mike Huckabee say shit like that. Those people are and were in Lindsay's case, traitors to our fucking country. If George Washington heard some shit like that, guys talking about France is our most important bullet. Oh, the fuck. Go get that boy from South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Bring him up here. That's what George Washington sounded like if you didn't know. At the time, At the time, France actually makes sense. They were a really great ally. I don't know if that's a good one. Actually, I imagine he had an old-timey, British accent. I bet he had wistly s's from the teeth.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I bet he did. Yeah, I feel, I feel like. Do you think that would be George Washington's main umbrage? I think he shows up today. And tell him to leave that fancy boy. He always has following him about back home in South Carolina. My God, you're letting them vote. Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:52:11 You wouldn't be a fan of the ladies voting I don't like this cocksucker's kissing that wall over there I don't like when they go on these impassioned speeches about why like trouble in Lebanon is trouble for me like suck my dick suck my fucking dick you know what the deficit is you piece of shit I don't want to fund African AIDS
Starting point is 00:52:33 and I don't want to fund bombs in the West Bank either it's such a bunch of horseshit Yeah, I'm done funding other countries. Enough, enough, enough. And they're like, oh, it's soft power. And it's like, no, well, then it's going to find an enemy. We're not useful. I'm tired of taking NLs.
Starting point is 00:52:48 We got to go back to Venezuela for round two. That's what I say. Is there a round two to be had? It seems like they've kind of. They just had an earthquake down there and they're right for the picking, Taylor. I heard Jamaica's getting up, but he let's go. That's how we should pick enemies and be like, huh, Turks and Kekos my ass. We just take all the nicest places.
Starting point is 00:53:09 America needs a W. We do not even have an army. They would probably speak a bit more in that sense. I don't know. But yeah, we do need a W. We can take Greenland and like those 60,000 people. I don't know if we can take it. I don't know if we can take it.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I don't know what NATO assets could be brought to bear. And like it seems like naval warfare has come down to area denial. now. I read a whole article about that today, and it's true. Like, you see what Ukraine has done in the Black Sea and to Russia, they basically made their, I know they've got kind of a pathetic navy, but they made it nullified. I've read that they destroyed, or attacked rather, destroyed might not be the word, 20 merchant vessels like today. Like, they like drone struck 20 Russian, they're choking their army. They're cutting the supplies off. It's really impressive. And Iran, certainly denied us passage
Starting point is 00:54:08 into the straight. We did not take our big fancy boats into that choke point, which to be fair, like, if there had been some admiral who was like, fuck it, said, we don't want that either. I like that we know our limits here.
Starting point is 00:54:23 There was clearly a meeting where someone was like, yeah, it won't go well. No, they're going to hit us. Something will hit us, for sure. It's been my fear about our Navy for a while. It's so much easier to break things than it is to build them, that I mean, they just launched cheap-ass drones at us in overwhelming numbers, and we sink. I think it's the little jet ski boats that are the problem.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I think that the point, those little mini-gun things that are on like fucking AI out there zipping around shooting stuff, I really think those can handle all the drones. But I think that those little naval jet ski boats that they send in, we deployed those today against the Iranians. We deployed like naval jet ski bomber drones against. against their boats today. I bet ours cost a quarter million for some reason. I heard they're very expensive.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Ukraine is the best at that. We should be, we should have team, if our president, I'd be like, look, send the R&D boys down to Ukraine. I wanted to learn all they can
Starting point is 00:55:22 from these Ukrainians, how they're making these drones on limited fucking budget. These guys have an economy a 60th of hours and they're holding off the Russians by making these cheap drones affordably
Starting point is 00:55:35 massive numbers. I feel like Germany in World War II, right? They had better tanks. They had better equipment in lots of ways. I think they had better planes for a lot of the war. You know, I'm wrong about that. I might be wrong about that. No, you're at the beginning of, you know, for a lot of the war.
Starting point is 00:55:50 The U.S. spooled up. We caught up in the tech tree. By the end, we had the best everything. But they did have a way better KD in our. I'm not sure if that's true about tanks. We did with the tanks now. Yeah. But where I was headed with that is Germany had an advanced
Starting point is 00:56:05 hard to maintain expensive military. And that's what we've evolved to, a very advanced, hard to maintain expensive military. And I watched this guy, Ryan McBeth. I don't love everything he says, but one thing burned into my mind. And he's like, if you have stockpiles, but not manufacturing capability,
Starting point is 00:56:23 he's like, you don't have a solution. You're on a timer. You're on a timer for a war machine that's running out. You need to have a manufacturing capability that is as big as your losses. And we don't. you know, we're going to spend years recovering from that war we just lost to Iran. And I think that's a good thing, though.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So I think if this war with Iran hadn't happened, we'd have continued on business as usual. I'm hoping that I've heard them make statements about upping production for interceptors and various things. I hope it's also causing a bit of a shift in the dogma in the defense department as far as how war should be fought in the drone age. I'll dub it because that's what we're in. We're in this autonomous warfare age. And it's more about how many of them you have than how good each one is. A hundred stupid things made out of balsa wood with a little C4 strap to them are better than one $8 million dollar cruise missile. But it's an industry.
Starting point is 00:57:29 So even if it gets cheaper, we'll still pay out the fucking nose for it. That's okay. I don't mind that it's expensive as long as it does its job. Well, expenses how you lose a war, though, right? Yeah. I don't know. We seem to have a pretty big economy. I don't know what you're going to do about that deficit, though.
Starting point is 00:57:49 That deficit's been a thing my whole life. And I remember every five, 10 years, I'd catch it on the news, them really harping on it and be like, we've got to get our hands around this thing. And, like, apparently I was the only one. No one in Washington thought that was a lot. None of them give a fuck because they're bought and paid for it. But it was a huge problem in every year leading up to 2020. And then they were like, let's double it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Let's double it with the COVID shit. Let's double it. Like they added like it. It was at least like 30, like a third. They added to it. Before 2020, right? Trump's tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy is that didn't add a recent spike. Well, we hit a milestone this year.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Compared to COVID. The COVID shit is where. really went bananas. It was that's where it began, but Trump really took it to another level. It was it was not that that didn't add to it because it was inching up. Inching up's the wrong word. It was spiking up. I'm sure what do you'll find the graph? I remember like a pretty big spike and then a dip and then Trump went to town. Well, but that's a you're looking at deficit. If you just look at total debt, which is what you should be looking at instead of just deficit year to year numbers. 2020 is where we went on a ridiculous curve upward. I see what you're saying now.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Here's a chart. This is the annual, not the cumulative. And you can see in 2020, like Taylor said, we did some emergency spending for this COVID stuff. But I'm waiting for Zach to show it. But if you just pretend that it didn't have that little spike, there's kind of a trend that exists from 2015 or so. Is that what I'm looking at?
Starting point is 00:59:33 where like you know prior to Trump taking office they were shrinking it every year now it gets worse it's red not blue and then Trump turned that shit around
Starting point is 00:59:44 and spiking especially with the COVID stuff and it's not just spending and again this is deficit not debt I wish that there were that part of this graph like on each on the tips of each bar
Starting point is 00:59:55 was the amount of interest because I because obviously the amount of interest do you know what our yearly interest hour yeah fair yeah hour This is a part of your team. We pay that trillion.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yearly, it's a trillion. It's a trillion.05 now per year of pure fucking interest. It's crazy. You don't beat that. What's our yearly economy? Like, like,
Starting point is 01:00:18 what's the GDP? Isn't it like 19 trillion or something? Or maybe it's 31 trillion? I don't remember the number. It's 31. 31. God damn it. It seems like we get our hands around this.
Starting point is 01:00:30 We're so wealthy. But we can't fuck. And it's, It's clear to anyone who has a bank account that, like, what direction or has ever seen, like, a credit card go the wrong way on them. Okay, well, then you as a politician, go out there and start cutting entitlements. Cutting entitlements and raise in taxes. You're not going to get elected because entitlements are the thing that makes up the bulk of our annual deficit. Somebody's got to take one for the team, man.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Someone's got to say, we're putting this through. We know it's unpopular. Vote us out, but this is for your own good. Take your medicine. It's important to remember there's, like, specialized. entitlement taxes, right? Social Security and Medicare come straight from your paycheck. So I'm just like, well, that stuff is kind of funded separately. It's the fact that like the rest of the government is running one, you know, your income tax. And it's not staying in budget.
Starting point is 01:01:23 No, they've never been in but for what was that graph? It was like the end of Clinton, the beginning of Bush. It was the last time that they had a little green in 19. to 2008 to 2002. Yeah. And then Bush started a war and off to the races. We've been at war ever since. We started a war.
Starting point is 01:01:42 We just almost finished it. And then we lost all our military equipment to a bunch of cave people. It was cheaper to leave it. That's so retarded. Can you imagine some guy being like, tell him it's cheaper to leave it? And he's like, no one's going to buy that.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And he's like, put it on, put it on AP until you tell people they're bad if they don't believe it. Oh, they believe it. Wow. It would have been cheaper to destroy it. If they told me they destroyed it all, I'd be like, okay. And well, that makes sense because the alternative was probably flying it back home in a plane. That's probably pretty expensive. And then when it gets here, it's probably a cost hole. It's like, well, we're going to refurbish this thing. You know what we have to do to bring it up to spec? I mean, basically tear it apart and start anew. That's because of the bloated cost. They're comparing the cost of that to the bloated cost of the manufacturing in the first place. Well, if you're not, you're going to have to get to the root cause of it, then not playing the guy who pulled out. That's why it's cheaper. I know there's instances of government spending like that.
Starting point is 01:02:47 That's bonkers. I don't know what the screws on an Apache cost, but we left a few helicopters. Those videos of them trying to fly them almost worth the equipment costs. that guy must have bought he crashed not for lack of skill but for the weight of his testicles pulling down the aircraft because that's probably yeah oh my god we left behind like some some helicopters i don't know my helicopters but one of the good ones yeah iS tries to take off in the thing and it looked like one of those turn of the century videos when people were trying to fly for the first time and they had like the one helicopter where like it was just a It has the spiral paper.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Like crazy shit like that, like lots. He just immediately loses control, veers off. It looked like when I would try to fly in a video game for the first time. And you're just like, oh, it's all left. Oh, right doesn't work anymore. And we hit the ground. And he just blows up. And it's like, yeah, but he had the balls to get in there.
Starting point is 01:03:43 He believed that he could do that based probably on reading books and like some internet video. And then he got into a military aircraft and went at it. I think the Patches are easy to fly. You'd think they'd be hard to fly, right? Like one of the most sophisticated, ridiculous. Like, I don't say 747s are easy. But I know a few helicopter pilots.
Starting point is 01:04:04 And they're all like, oh, yeah, Patchies are the easy ones. You know, the Robinsons, they're tough. There's nothing automated about that. That's completely like human vibe and feel. Apache's, you can just go hands free and it'll hover. That's not true with most helicopters. Most helicopters are like a broomstick on your palm where you're constantly adjusting trying to like keep it up.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, yeah. But the sophisticated ones, these fly-by-wire ones, they do a lot for you. It's almost like a quad where you point where you want to go. I got the video. Okay. Hang on. I got you. Let's see. So this is the Taliban
Starting point is 01:04:44 trying to fly a black hawk. Ooh, this doesn't look good. Let's show this there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This man had the biggest balls and all of Afghanistan, and they loaded him into that cockpit.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I bet he's not feeling so cocky at this point. Oh, no. Oh, oh, no. And he hit kind of softly. I wonder if he lived. Here we go. We're watching. He's getting topsy-turvy now.
Starting point is 01:05:17 He's like ass over. But look, he's... Oh, that's not good. Oh! Right, that wasn't that hard. That wasn't like jumping out. He landed sideways, though, and those rotors are going to ten.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Not for long. That's awesome. They went flying everywhere. You can't even read and you're like, I got it. I'm the man. I'm the dude. He might be right. I watched another angle of it and it's obscured by trees,
Starting point is 01:05:46 but it looks like he got the ass of it kind of down a little bit. He might have been okay. That guy for sure died, dude. You think they get it now, if you're the boss and you see this happen, do you tell him to hop in another one? deal out. Luckily, Abdul, we have 45. You're like
Starting point is 01:06:04 you're like Zerk season 300. You are now our most experienced helicopter pilot. We're going to need to give this an extra job, Captain. Muhammad failed. That means you're up,
Starting point is 01:06:21 Muhammad. No, no. Make Muhammad do it. terrible for military I'm just for that just for that clearly they didn't get any of them to work my friends and I tonight we're going to play Rainbow 6 ranked
Starting point is 01:06:45 for the first time we're entering ranked modes we are going to get butt fuck like Connor McGregor's women we are we are no in no way prepared to take on this challenge my friend hit level 50 last night on the last game. That's the minimum level for being ranked.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Then he's going straight to it. We're going to get our placements, and I have low expectations. There's nowhere to go but up. There's lots of video game news. Rainbow. All that stuff happening. It has really strong skill-based matchmaking.
Starting point is 01:07:20 So I struggle to do well two games in a row. They're like, oh, you get a little higher on yourself? Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm getting high on you too. Here's a better competition. And I'm like, I was no way ready for that. Well, good luck. Yeah, we'll see where I really stand tonight.
Starting point is 01:07:38 It's hard to tell how good you are because the skill-based matchmaking is so strong. You're always at like 50-50. So when we go to ranked, we'll see. Am I a copper, bronze, silver? I wouldn't expect higher than that. We'll see. Well, good luck. Let us know.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah, thank you. All right, PKK, 621.

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