Painkiller Already - PKN #79

Episode Date: February 26, 2016

This week on PKN... PKN.

started all right okay i almost did like as a goof so so i pressed the button to start the recording and sometimes it starts right away and then like this time it it took so long call it like 12 seconds that i start doubting whether i press the button and while we're waiting for it taylor goes say something offensive just that'll start it and i would have been busted by just rattling off. We had a couple topics we were talking about beforehand. There was the magic thing. Was it revenant? Oh, the marijuana thing.

Revenant, marijuana funds, magic gathering, any of those topics. Taylor, pick first one. I was speaking to Melissa because she just got back home. I only heard in passing what you said about magic going to the store. All right, I'll quickly catch everyone but Woody up.

So I was just in line at Walmart last night, and I saw there was a Magic the Gathering starter bundle or whatever. It was like $40, and I almost bought it thinking like— Do you recall what it was called? No. And I almost bought it, but I was thinking I would ask you if I actually wanted to start out in this thing with the mindset that... Because Woody explained to me that you could play

so that everyone has a starter deck and there's no unique cards, I suppose. But I don't want to do that. That doesn't sound as much fun to me. Obviously, that's the smart way to play. I know it is. But I like the lottery of getting new decks, I suppose suppose and having the opportunity to maybe get that $20,000 card. Like I saw that guy did the unboxing on YouTube that thing and he just lost his

shit, he had the card. Oh the Mox Ruby, when the guy opened that pack? Yeah, that's a $1400 card. No no, this was like a $20,000 card that this guy got. Oh, that. He lost his shit. I'll start looking for the video. But my question for you is, where do I start? I don't want to go ridiculous with it. Let's say $50 or something. But if there's a $75 option that gives me three times as many cards, I'd do that. So what do I need to start with here?

So it's going to be a $100 option. And it's going to give you infinitely more than you would with one of those little starter decks. Because the starter deck, it's going to be every single card is a carbon copy of every other card in every starter deck that looks the same as that aside from, I think, maybe three or four

random rares and most of those are shit. But if you get a booster box, it's a big box and it has 36 of the booster packs that you open and those are all randomized and the funnest way to play with people would be like let's say me you and woody were together and we all wanted to play we'd all go in on a box like that together and then we would draft from it so we would take a certain amount of packs have them next to us we'd all open it open the pack look at all the cards each pick one put it

face down and then pass the rest of those cards to the left or right and then you slowly make an aggregate deck of what everybody else is passing you and it keeps people from just everybody having this op card or something like that obviously if you know how to draft you're going to do better but that's the most fun way to wait there's a talent to drafting of course there yeah you have to be able so like let's say first pack i open i have a really good black rare and i'm like i'm taking this this i'm gonna you know take this to the gold goal line put it down all the rest of the packs i get none of them are good black cards and it's all just good red i might have to make the decision later like you know what i had this great black card but i'm only getting red and so i'm either going to have to make a black red deck or just sacrifice that

black card and keep it and make a red deck like so it definitely takes some skill to draft well and i'm not the best at it like i always lose myself and take the most valuable card regardless yeah you'd want you need to know situationally what the best card for you to take based on what the others had drawn right i think i didn't understand that at first that's how i look at the card and take it or pass is that the deal yeah uh it's not one individual card though so i open a whole pack and it's got like 12 cards or whatever the tempting thing is let's say i've already got a few red and green cards down in front of me that i've picked in prior packs if it has a really good white rare i might be like ah i should just take that just to have it because you get to keep the cards you draft at the end but there

might be an uncommon or a common red or green card that fits with what i'm drafting better and that would be the smarter draft move to take and then just to pass the rare card with the remainder of the cards to the next person so you take one card out of the pack and you get to choose which of those you want and then you pass the rest of the pack and then he gets to choose the one he wants until you get to the end when there's probably crappy cards left yeah where you pretty much get forced to pick whatever's remaining it also makes you pick like uh so if i pass a pretty good green card over to kyle and then kyle passes it to you and then you pass it back to me and that good green card is still there

i have to make a you know mental log of that and be like, all right, neither of them are drafting green. Maybe this is a good way for me to go. So I have a higher priority as far as picking the color that I need. It's a lot of fun. I misunderstood in the beginning. I thought that you weren't looking at the card. It's an alpha black lotus?

An alpha black lotus. Yeah, that's the rarest card in the game. Even I know about Black Lotus. He unboxes it live. He's doing, he like meticulously opens the thing with an exacto knife or a scalpel looking tool and he's wearing these rubber gloves

and when he gets to it, he's just like ahhhh like melts down. Because he can sell that card and buy a used Honda. Yeah, yeah, that card and buy like a used Honda. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like a $20,000 card from what I've read. And his hands, like, you know, he's really,

he does an excellent job with this video. It happens around eight minutes if you're peeking. You know, every time, as he's unboxing, he sort of flips the card and reveals it, not only to himself for the first time, but to the camera. And it's like you're experiencing it with him. It's but then when he can we watch it we'll just go to um so i'm at 741 i gave you guys a link 741 let me get there he makes good videos i am there as well all right ready set play

sacrifice Set play Sacrifice Getting closer and closer Lance closer and closer Copper tablets, I suppose the last card is always the rare and chant animate artifact I'm not sure how they're really beautiful arms that I'm pretty centered. I think so and Last time come alpha. That's from like 90 90 here. Yeah, the first these the two rows here comes that eight minutes is I think so. And last one coming.

That's from like 1993. Here comes the first Alpha Rare. At eight minutes in, will it be the Lotus? Oh, wow. Tropical Island. Oh, Tropical Island. And the other one is... Holy!

That's a freaking Black Lotus! Holy God! That's an freaking black lotus Oh my god Oh my god That's an elbow freaking lotus Holy His hands are shaking He just won a car Yeah, because that's like opening

$10,000 I think the deal with this deck he's opened Correct me if I'm wrong Was that it was an old deck Like he has his hands on something That wasn't released recently The deal with this deck he's opened, correct me if I'm wrong, was that it was an old deck. Like, he has his hands on something that wasn't released recently. It's like a vintage deck that's being opened for the first time, right? That's correct.

So Alpha is the name of the set. So every so often they release a new set. The last time I was super into it, Khans of Tarkir and Dragons of Tarkir were the new sets. But Alpha's the number one. And so it was such a new game at that time that so many of the cards they made were just ridiculously overpowered you know just like you can go back and play call of duty 4 or call of duty 2 and clearly see like yeah these snipers in cod 2 are fucking ridiculous this is not sustainable someone has to fix these but if you could somehow open that in the new call of duty you'd be a

monster like nobody could stop you yeah if you could get the m16 from cod 4 you know or you just suddenly have frag times three nobody else does i don't look at the weapon stats anymore there was a time when like i had them memorized i'm pretty sure the m16 was doing like 40 or 45 damage per bullet with a three round burst firing at 950 rounds per minute, which meant that with stopping power, only two of the bullets out of the three-round burst had to hit you to kill you without a headshot, which is pretty outstanding. But maybe if you compare it with the stats from the new games that I don't look at anymore because I'm not that invested, there's something bigger or better. But the main thing that made it so killer,

the stats I just quoted notwithstanding, was that all the other guns were pretty shitty, and there was some hit detection stuff in COD 4 that just made it a killer. It would one burst so often, nothing else seemed to kill nearly as fast. It was wonderful. MP5 was good too. Yeah, yeah. That was my favorite gun in that game yeah silenced mp5 with uh dead silence and i like the noise it made when it hit people the silenced mp5 i i got sort of paper tearing i had like guns for every map you know like for example the um maybe it was the ak

47u on what's the one that had the lattice work was it strike or something it was like a statue in the middle a square building um you could walk around the second showdown oh yeah showdown no no no no um you're talking about the one that's really small they added it when they fixed the the uh the m40 uh acog like six weeks into the game they added that map really um yeah yeah i'd have to look at that it's pretty small that most of the like b dom happens right by the statue in the middle and it's not it's very small map and it has never been anything but cod for it's one of those things where as soon as you spawn in used to start throwing the grenades over the building into the courtyard and everybody

runs through those tunnels into the middle but then on the on the inside there's like a surrounding area where you can look down into the courtyard and on the outside there's like two bases and ladders and shit yeah I can't think of the name of it but that was added like six weeks into the game's life I'm looking it up I don't even know what you're describing

it's called showdown it is showdown I had countdown in my head for some reason, but that's the one. That's the huge hangar one. Yeah, I like that one too. That was great for spawn traps. The only map I really despised in that whole game was Block. I liked Block. I bet you sniped on Block, didn't you?

No. All that you did on Block was run through the buildings in a big loop with a silent submachine gun and kill Yeah, that was really good after a while. I love it. That's the that's what I was saying You were saying like oh, yeah, the mp5 was my favorite Hi, so for vacant I would use the shotgun inside because I didn't really have a lot of luck with the shotgun on a lot Of maps I found it hard to close the distance, but on vacant I didn't so you there often routes I could run where I'd get people right up in front of me that's my opportunity to use a shotgun on showdown because it seemed like I was shooting into lattice work a lot I'd use a gun that had good penetration like the ak-47 has good penetration I think the ak-47u had the hip fire of an assault rifle but

like the penetration of one or something like that. Like it had seven for you. Yeah. Did I say it wrong? Um, it's seven for you, but you got the stats. Perfect. Okay.

Um, and so I would pick, Oh, LMG was fairly good for that map too. Again, because the penetration on it was so strong. Uh, and I had a friend I used to play with who would really get work done on showdown with an LMG.

So it would make me try it, but I used to have different styles on, um, block. Like you said, I like to stay in the in the buildings i used to run a ghost class on that um i think i even named it ghost and just i i like that game wet work was my m16 map i watched um beyond beyond was a really good player i don't know how he stacks up against the other best of the best, but to me he was kind of ex-cowlish at COD 4. And I watched him. He went to Wetwork in this one video.

It taught me how to play. And he's just sort of working his killstreaks. He didn't have B-DOM, but he didn't rush on it it to his suicide and he ended up going like 78 and 7 on it which you know was an amazing score those killstreaks were not as effective as today's and um yeah he was just he was just really good at the game um but he was even thinner skin than me and uh he he just he wasn't wired for youtube and quit so he was like a sydney crosby player you know very good but often gets upset at nothing exactly you know except that um you know sydney crosby will in like he'll make stuff up entirely, whereas Beyond would just overly react to things that did actually happen. He didn't die.

After you said that shit last time about Sidney Crosby being a crybaby whiner, I knew you had more experience with it because you are out east, and so you watch Eastern Conference shit, and you're a Flyers fan. And I watched just a compilation on YouTube called Crybaby Sidney Crosrosby and I linked it a while ago it is so funny it's just like people barely hitting him his rookie season and him just oh just woe is me throwing himself to the ice and I never saw that because I was watching western conference games but uh it's a lot harder to respect him even if that was years ago not only was he diving constantly but he would dive and then go to the ref and beg for protection like they're killing me out here smalls and you're just like dude you dove it was totally like you know this

guy even as a rookie was one of the best players in the league and he was getting tripped by things that i would skate right through and i am not an NHL player by any stretch. But you can't just tap me on the shin pads and expect me to fall. Hockey players, compared to other skaters, are really solid on their feet. That's a thing. They're supposed to be hard to push over. And Crothy would just dive all the time. He's so lame.

So lame. But he almost had a special kind of immunity there for a while as the nhl does like when you're the poster child for the nhl like he was for still is to an extent but for like five years there he was the only guy who they would bring out for all the rebot commercials everything like even the reps knew that like a trip that they would definitely call from him or from like Wayne Simmons on someone they wouldn't call on Crosby because they want all those bandwagon Pittsburgh fans to stay active and viewing like you're totally right and that's just true there's no denying that now what I'm less educated on is I'm I think in basketball Jordan would get away with traveling

a lot you know they like, look at him. He achieved a low Earth orbit across the paint. No, he touched the ground. He took an extra step. I feel like with Jordan, he got away with traveling in a way that other people didn't. That's what I heard. My understanding now, and I only watch basketball highlights every once in a while, is that I don't even know if my understanding of traveling is right anymore because of all the highlights I'm watching and it seems like a bunch

of tall guys are just running on the court willy-nilly just dribbling it whenever they see fit and just dunking on like five steps dude I've played with people and you know like it I'll be like I think that was traveling because it was like two steps and then a plant and a jump. And I'm like, it seems like it's been 18 feet since he's dribbled at all. Like, you know, he just took like two giant. I don't want to be the guy who calls up. Oh, you're breaking up on me. I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's probably, it could be my fault. I don't know. But yeah, like I play with people. They just take giant steps and then double bounce with their feet. And I talk to people who know basketball better than me. They're like, no, that was okay. And I'm like, is it really? Am I just not taking all the steps I'm entitled to?

I thought when you stopped dribbling, you got like a step and a half or something like that. And these guys seem to be taking two. Is there a special rule if you jump with both feet afterwards? I don't know. Just how much money you make and how much they want you to be on TV. That's got to be.

I don't know. I finally see the Revenant. Which magic? I never found out which magic deck to get. I never figured out which magic deck to get. You don't have to get a... You don't get any of them.

The advice I would give you for real is if you want to get into it, buy a booster box. So then you actually build up your collection. You've got 36 booster packs of like 11 cards each. So that's 36 rares. I'm telling them how to get into it. Oh, now we're talking. You're asking for meth advice.

Don't even start, Kyle. Booster box. Magic the Gathering. Magic the Gathering booster box. If you just want an easy... That's only 100 bucks. Let's make this happen. Yeah.

What's this Battle of Zendikar here? Is that just... Don't get Battle of Zendikar. Let me look up... No, no, no, no, no. What about Khans of Tarkar? That's the one. Oh, don't get Khans of Tarkar. No, don't listen to, no, no, no. What about Khans of Tarkir? That's the one. Oh, don't get Khans of Tarkir.

No, don't listen to Mirka. What the hell does he know? Dragons of Tarkir? Oh, I didn't know they had Dragons of Tarkir. Oath of the Gatewatch? Oh, the Gatewatch. You don't want that. It's boring.

99% of the time, nothing happens. Gathering Gatecrush? What's the newest one we got? Gatewatch. There's two Gatewatches. There's a 2016. Oath of the Gatewatch. There's two Gatewatches. There's a 2016... Here's one here that says 2016 Origin Set Booster Box. Gotta go old school.

36 packs of 15. Gotta go old school back before they balanced well. Do they have Oath of the Gatewatch? They do. That's the one. Here it is right here. So Oath of the Gatewatch, They do. That's the one. Woody knows what he's talking about. Yeah, okay. Here it is right here. Just sit and pass it off the show. Yeah, so Oath of the Gatewatch, that's the newest one.

So how many of those do I need to buy? How many booster boxes? Yeah, do I need like, how many, I mean, do you start at five? A hundred. I would recommend just getting one. A hundred dollars. So ten? A thousand seems excessive. Jesus Christ. I say get one of those am i going to be able to throw down with the local kids at the magic the gathering stomping ground and like really compete though if

i if i only get one part of being good at magic is having a lot of money and seeing as how your network is a lot higher than the average 15 year old you're going to go in there and dominate if you want to yeah you know what you should like pay to win in real life i like this this is great real life all the best magic cards that set go in just kind of saying like oh you know i'm kind of new to the game put all your cards down and shuffle them harshly without sleeves it'll irritate people to no end as you're damaging valuable cards that to you are just worth nothing just i'm just here to play and then win not out of skill or knowledge or game rules or anything valid just out of, just, I'm just here to play, and then win, not out of skill, or knowledge, or game rules,

or anything valid, just out of money. Just, oh, what do you know, I pulled another $7 card. Is there a way that, like, after I play a card, does it have to remain on the board? Because I think it would be funny if every time I played a card,

I tore it in half. No, what you should do... And I was like, I only use a card once. Yeah. That's great. I like that. You're impressed by this? You're impressed by the four-eyed Bulbasaur? I've got 50 of these.

Or if you lose, just take your $600 deck and be like, alright, go to the bathroom. This is going right down the toilet. Just flush it down. Alright, well now we know where to start those and if you want me to come on like a skype call with you when you're opening them so i can help you build you let me know i think you should film it as an unboxing but not know shit about it so just just react just react to how pretty they are. Like, ooh! Yeah, six flowers?

What is this flowers bullshit? Like, throw it away. Meanwhile, it could be something amazing. I don't know. And yeah, like, look at this guy. He's got giant muscles. That's a keeper. Yeah, that's just like six cent fare.

Six cent comp. That would be pretty funny. I could see you actually getting into it Kyle because you've got the kind of strategic analytical mind that once you try it I think you'll like it where just like Civ you want to beat people

and outsmart them kind of let them form their strategy but you circumvent it my next question is this is there any way to play people online with my deck that is like a real life deck that I hold in my hands? Because I don't actually want to go out into the real

world and have people see me playing Magic. Ever. No, not online. You have to buy online cards for the online game. Scan my cards in and have a virtual representation of them online. They should be serialized

so that I can put them in and my online magic profile shares the cards with my real one. Why don't they do that? They could make more money by having two worlds. One world. They already do that. Not with putting your serial number for the card in.

A lot of people who don't have anyone to play with in real life, all they do is buy cards and they have an online collection, which is way cheaper than having a real-life collection. But at the end of the day, if you have a real collection, you have physical cards and not just something in the ether that you're hoping doesn't get deleted for some nonsense reason. But yeah, if you want to try online, download The Gathering 15 or 16

and just play against the computer a bit. As opposed to actual cardboard, which is tangible and has value. It does have value. It does. It does. It's definitely better than Beanie Babies. In this modern world of people selling Counter-Strike knives

for real fucking money, hundreds and thousands of dollars. At this point, it's not like Beanie Babies anymore. You just got to shrug and be like, yeah, I guess your Magic card's worth a lot of money. I really am. One of my friends who's super... I bought and sold enough baseball cards

to get my first motorcycle. So I feel like what's happening with Magic now, I did in the 90s. And I think they're very parallel. What was your most valuable card? I had a McGuire rookie card. That was worth something. No, that was in my head. For some reason, I was –

I had a – who's the guy? He got like a consecutive game hit record or something, like Paul Molitor maybe. I forget. I don't know if he broke the record, but he was like in the midst of it. He had like 50, he had a hit in like 50 games in a row. And I was like, I'm selling his card now

because it was just skyrocketing. And I unloaded that and my timing was right on it. If you can't even remember him, chances are you had great timing for that sale. I think his name was Paul Molitor. I did a good job, although I wasn't really skilled. I watched a video. Optic Big Timer was explaining his 2014,

and it was super interesting to me. He made a lot of money in the stock market, and he didn't understand stocks very well. And he would go to websites to get advice, and he's like, I now know that those websites are full of people who are kind of scamming or like what they call pump and dumping, like trying to create excitement around a stock so that they can sell it at a high. And in spite of being new to stocks, he just kind of, you know, rode the momentum at the right places. I feel like he wasn't playing stocks as much as he was understanding where excitement was. And he made a lot of money. I

think he made over a million dollars. And I did something similar on a much smaller scale. I probably made $2,000 with baseball cards. I just sort of knew who had the excitement, which things people were jazzed about, which I buy complete decks a lot, and which ones people were excited about. And then I wanted a motorcycle, and I just emptied my collection for a good profit. Yeah, one of my friends who did pretty much the exact opposite thing.

We all finished college. He got a very well, paying job somewhere and after his first year he still had this old hyundai and he just decided he was going to spend like fifteen thousand dollars on the power nine which is what they call like the top nine rarest magic cards out there including the one we just saw black lotus the rarest and so he spent like 15 grand on these nine cards that he now keeps and like a fireproof safe next to his tens of thousands of other cards he's probably got 40 or 50 thousand dollars in magic cards that he he has no interest in selling like he'll show me

he'll be like oh i just pulled this 120 card it's so great like it won't be worth that much in two months when it rotates out of standard play but whatever I'm like you're gonna sell it man he's like no no no this is for me this is for me like I'm keeping this I had a friend who had baseball cards like that he had a um I'm trying to describe how big his closet was it was a little bigger than a normal closet like a small walk-in call it that and uh his shelves from foot to eight feet tall were covered with baseball cards like library books or something just complete decks wax a wax pack is the um it looks like these are what would be called wax packs where you you open it and sometimes there's gum inside and there's like 18 cards or something like that he would have terrible boxes yeah it was he had boxes of the

wax packs right so like you know at the store like the little display he'd have the whole like you know a bundle of whatever 100 wax packs and boxes and boxes of those 100 bundles he must have had like like like your friend 50 000 80 000 in baseball cards and uh as a teenager he's like yeah i figure i'll sell them all and get a down payment on my house i wonder what happened to them probably ended up keeping them i remember i only collected hockey cards growing up uh like aside from pokemon cards but hockey cards i had and i remember having uh maybe you remember this they would have like the card and then in the bottom center of it,

there would be like a tiny sliver cut out of the player's jersey, like a real game worn jersey. And so it would be the size of a card, but there'd be a tiny little patch of their game worn jersey in there. And I still remember at the age of like, probably 11 to 13, getting a Jose Theodore card with a little snippet of his jersey and just thinking in my head like this is gonna be worth something like this is this is so rare and worthwhile it ends up that uh i lost it and it's worth nothing regardless but you know the excitement that you feel is what's worth it i don't know whatever happened to baseball cards like i i want i know that they really tanked like had a bear market

sometime in like the 2000s but i don't know where they are now yeah you should definitely get that then kyle and let me see what you open up you definitely shouldn't and the whole idea is silly just think of the looks on those kids faces when i when show up with just slandous cards in their face. It's going to be great, Woody. It's totally worth $100. Well, you have to promise me that we will try playing when we get together.

That's the only reason I'd buy the cards. I'd like to play. Okay. I think you'll be good at it. Much better than you think, as long as you don't take that route that a lot of people do with Magic, where they see themselves kind of enjoying it

when they didn't and they think they're enjoying it a bit too much and then they go way to the other side of like oh well this is just fucking stupid like i'm not getting into this and they just don't want to admit to themselves that they have fun with it because it is a really nerdy embarrassing thing to care a lot about i can tell it looks like what you want to talk about next revenant all right so you watched it recently what were your thoughts on it a lot about. I can tell. Looks like it. What do you want to talk about next? Revenant. All right, so you watched it recently. What were your thoughts on it? I really liked it. Melissa and I went to go see it in one of those sit down and eat theaters, and it was... maybe it's the fact that I was very comfortable watching it, that the length of it was

bearable, but really I don't really have any complaints i thought it was great if you even like the bear scene the bear scene was very good um and i think i i've always given the bear scene a lot of credit it i don't i don't know exactly how they pulled that off it it it appears that dicaprio was in a lot of danger for that bear scene i don't know what the fuck that It was amazing. It's ripping his clothes and you see the ribs. He grabs and he picks them up by the back and stuff. And I'm just like, I don't even, I don't, was there a bear involved in that scene?

Not at all. Well, something cool happened there. So that was really good. But Chiz disagrees with this criticism. I think that the plot was really simple and he says no woody you can take any movie and simplify the plot like oh what was star wars about it's about some kid that's mad at his dad that's like no there's a lot happening it's the chosen one story it's that's what it is it's they do it and over. There's only like five or six original stories. I don't think it was too simple.

It's a revenge story. He's crawling, trying to get to a place. It's point A to point B. Alright, so I took some notes here of some of my thoughts that I wanted to remember. I thought it was action-packed the whole way through. I didn't think it ever got that slow to me. There was always something going on.

It started out with a big battle. There were, I don't know, like 20 people killed in the initial battle between the Indians and the fur trappers. That was a great scene. And then you watched him, once he was injured, kind of slowly creep his way up from just a crawling worm to a guy who can walk around. He started out, his first meal was breaking old, rotten bones apart

and eating the marrow. he like ate some grass then he uh he built a fish fish trap and ate the fish he stumbled upon a carcass of a bison that some wolves had killed and he ate the liver and he's actually eating a bison liver in that scene that's a real bison liver that he's eating right there that doesn't add to it though because i read that too it was like can you believe that was a real liver well it's not someone in the prop department failed because he didn't need to do that he so it wasn't about that so it wasn't like he was just like yeah let's do it for real eating the liver is like a ceremonial thing with the with the native american tribe that he was you know he learned their language he's he learned it meant a lot to him. He got into the role a lot.

On his journey, he did a ton of shit. So he saves a hostage. He jumps a horse off a fucking cliff. He made fire with Flynn. I thought that was cool, the way he did it. He swims through those rapids to escape from the Indians. They have that emergency shelter they build in the forest in the blowing snow. I thought that was fucking cool.

He made friends with that Pawnee Indian. That guy was awesome. Oh, I liked that. That was the saddest part of the whole movie for me was that really nice Indian who just gave him some meat, helped him out. They were riding along, catching snowflakes on their tongue. Yeah.

And then the next morning, he wakes up and he just sees... I mean, spoilers. It's been long enough now. If I've seen it, you guys should see it. Where he's just dead, hanging there, and he's got I mean spoilers it's been long enough now if I've seen it you guys should see it where he's just dead hanging there and he's got that like French sign of you know les savages du

douchebag or whatever they wrote on him they fucking lynch his friend he has three out of body experiences on his journey where he goes to like another plane and like communes with like his dead wife and stuff and it's all it's really trippy and he's floating. Having an out-of-body experience.

There's a castration. A rape. He guts his dead horse and crawls inside for warmth like he's fucking Luke Skywalker tearing that Tauntaun apart. What I was impressed with it

technically speaking, there were these long, long shots without cuts, and the camera seemed to move in ways that weren't conventional. It moved around a lot, and that made me start thinking, ah, is this CGI, or are those not real horses, or are those not real people? And so I did some research into it, and the guy who's doing the cinematography is this Emmanuel Lubezki guy and i started looking into french maybe he has an accent right i wouldn't know and i started looking into like his um like pedigree like the films he's done the last few years he did gravity and bird man for

which he won oscars the last two years in a row and before that he did children of men in the tree of life and i really like children of men um I thought that the long shots were really cool. I like that in movies anyway, but I'd never seen a long shot where – usually these long shots, you kind of follow the character maybe down some corridors or out through a street or something, and you're like, wow, how'd they do that? That's really technically cool. But in these, sometimes the camera would be – it seemed like handheld. It seemed like a handheld guy who's running backwards in front of.

You're breaking up right now. Oh, yeah. Lost your audio. Oh, you can't hear me either. Oh, good. I'll tell you, that guy's known for fake long shots, which in itself is kind of a skill. A fake long shot sounded like a dig,

but I know in Birdman, there's this one particular long shot that he got a lot of credit for that when you look at it a little closer, you realize it was actually, like, four shots. And it just – the camera's so shaky and stuff. You get, like, up close to someone. And for a frame, it was black. And then he'd just pick it up from there. Yeah, they do that bullshit where, like, the camera's here and the character's walking up.

And, like, the camera almost, camera almost meets with their clothes for a second and there's just a quick black screen and then it just pretends that it continues. This wasn't the case in the shot that I saw, though. I really liked one of the opening shots where Leonardo is hearing the gun battle going on, that his fellow trappers

are being attacked by the Ree, and he's running into the battle. He's running into the fight and he's taking on two or three guys all hand to hand, and then he's on the receiving. This guy's just choking him to death, and it stays with him the whole time, and then it sort of pans around him, and as he jumps on a horse, it actually, that's a different battle I'm thinking of. There's two of those shots like that where there are long battle shots, and it follows him, but the one I really was impressed with, at some some point and he jumps on a horse and starts riding and the camera stays with him the whole time so that means that there was some kind of rig that was

they were filming him standing the one after the french camp yeah yeah yeah i'm just the indians all you need is like one frame one frame where the actor's like not in there and now you have a still shot you can pick up from and uh i didn't pick it up in the bird man and like as much as people like to fuss about my movies i'm actually not a skilled movie critic or anything but i'm into movies i'm into videography and um you know when directors do these round tables and stuff even if they're an hour long i'm apt to like watch them and talk about their future none of the other directors seem to think tarantino's gonna stop after 10 films like i thought that was interesting and he's like yeah i'm just making 10 films and then i retire and they're all like oh yeah right you know like

they don't believe it for a second um anyway this guy uh he fakes a lot of long shots and i had no idea they were fake until like i've watched youtube videos on how he does it so it's great i really liked uh gravity i remember watching gravity and i watched in 3d which was a complete experience like that was that was like an amusement ride it was it was in 3D. And I just remember as that camera would rotate around it, they were using, it was really groundbreaking stuff. No other film had done that stuff. And I've seen a video about how they filmed it, but I'd need to watch the video and refresh myself

to even remember how that camera rig worked. You've got the actors on a rig, they're moving around, and the camera's moving around as well. It's remarkable. The opposite of this i'm sorry taylor i watched some stabilized footage of the star trek you know in star trek it was on reddit so maybe you saw it too but every time on star trek like the they're going through a bumpy space or there's engine trouble or maybe they're in a battle dampeners aren't working. Yeah, right? So they're all like holding something and doing this and bouncing around.

And then they shake the cameras. And when you put it all together, it looks stupid but not as stupid as when somebody takes it and stabilizes it. So they take out this camera shake and you just see a bunch of idiots like shaking around. And they're not like doing it in sync like you know if the ship did a thing all of us in sync would be like whoa right that's not it at all they're just like bouncing together apart it's you know like this it it's it's so lame stabilized that it's funny yeah um i'm looking for the oscars like i really i don't know i went into it just not expecting as much because of the opinions i've read but the only time where i was

like all right fucking come on this is ridiculous uh and i did get back into the movie after it is when he jumped off the cliff with that horse and it was just that plus the fact that he'd been like beaten to death three times in the previous week that I'm like, there's just no way like his body's just going to hit something that's slightly too hard and just explode like a zit that's overdue. Like there's just no way. And then he just, you know,

cuts open the horse and Melissa noticed that, uh, cause like we've seen i'm sure you guys have seen deer when you cut them open on the field and you're skinning it and whatnot there's a fuck ton of blood like there there's a lot of blood you usually do it going downhill so that it all flows downhill and it's not just you know a dead carcass full of pooling blood as you're cutting it open and when he he got into that deer, it was just like driven white snow right in front of the deer, where it's like, all right, you just cut a whole horse open,

sorry, horse, not deer, and there's no blood around it, which was a little thing that I noticed, not a huge deal. But yeah, he did survive. I didn't feel like I knew enough about horse anatomy. Like in my head, I was like, well, maybe it's gut soaked up all,

maybe he's being careful not to perforate the organs. I don't know. I didn't really think about that. The fact that he was doing it at all i was just like whoa he's gonna crawl in like luke but nobody thought the plot was too simple i'm the only one who felt like like for a three-hour movie there were not enough twists and turns and it's not that it was too simple of a plot. It's like they kept it going by having a constant barrier in front of him, not just like down the road of like I got to work to get past that, you know, upcoming tribulation, more just like, oh, all right, and shit went off the rails again.

Oh, and everything's fucked up. Oh, and it's not working. Like it was just a constant barrage of problems to the point that you couldn't even really realize how simple the plot is. I don't think it's that simple. Like all right take die hard you know he's in the building the whole time he's in an he's in a he's in a building the whole thing is just trying to get his wife away from hans gruber you know that that's all it is he's just trying to get to the ninth floor and get his wife he's in yakutomi plaza the whole time you know you could say that's really simple but along the way

all kinds of hardcore shit happens to him he has to run through the glass barefooted he's got to jump with that fire hose off the side and then swing in through while that blonde-headed fuck is shooting at him with an aug he got so excited about it he passed out yeah but it's very simple i hear where you're coming from and i I guess I was just trying to bounce that. Maybe I watched it in the wrong mood or something. And, you know, Empire Strikes Back would have sucked to me that night. I don't know. But to me, as I watched it, I just felt like one man's walk through the woods.

You know what I watched that I hated recently? The new Bond. The new Spectre movie. Oh, really? I waited until, because, you know, the new Spectre movie. I waited until, because you know when it's on demand you can either, for the first like six weeks you have to buy it for 20 bucks and I'm not doing that bullshit. So I waited until it was like a $5 rental and watched it a couple

nights ago and I really didn't like it. They tried to make all the previous Daniel Craig Bonds fit into this one big thing where like you know all of his past enemies have been part of this overall, bigger, overreaching bad guy. And they try to tie it all together. And I was just left not really caring.

It's got Christoph Waltz in it, the Jew hunter, the German guy from Django. He's in there. He's the bad guy. But I just didn't like it. I haven't liked a Bond movie since Daniel Craig took over. Casino Royale was sick. Casino Royale. Is that the reboot?

That was the first one he made, I think. Yes, it is. So there's this part where he's at the place where they're playing poker, and it's the big poker game to get all the money from the terrorists or whatever. And he gets attacked by two men in a stairwell. And I think there's at least one edged weapon, a machete or a blade or something. And when that fight's over, both of them are dead, of course, because he's James Bond. But if Sean Connery had been in that stairwell, he'd have just kind of...

He'd have fucked him too it'd have been really nonchalant he'd have like judo chopped one and got the other in some silly headlock and gave him a noogie and threw him out a window and made a quip but at the end of this Daniel Craig looks completely physically exhausted

he's pouring sweat and it's not like sweat from like exertion it's like cold sweat because he's got these stab wounds and this slash in his ribs and he's all he looks he looks terrible as he limps back to his room and like like shoots uh scotch and pours alcohol on the wounds and he's trying to get clean and he's just fucked and i liked that it felt real it is quite a bit better than like the sean connery version version where a guy goes to chop him. He grabs the wrist, turns it to the side.

The guy's just crippled in pain from his wrist slightly adjacent to his body, I guess. And then he doesn't even chop him to the neck. He just kind of like, ugh, just palms him right in the forehead, and the guy's done. That kind of shit. If you go back and watch Goldfinger, it's almost hard where it's like what the fuck is happening you know they've gone they've admitted that austin powers was the reason that the new bonds went in a different direction that they felt like they couldn't do that cheesy judo chop you know silliness anymore that they had to be more real more visceral more more grounded more rooted in a real world that you could believe in because Austin Powers was so effective

at lampooning that style that they had used for 20 or 30 films or whatever. The Jon Stewart effect. I know Brian Williams and Fox News, they've all been like, dude, dude, dude, if we go in this direction, Jon Stewart's going to talk about us. And that,

yeah. Have you guys seen Deadpool yet? Kyle has. Please don't ruin it for me. No, I didn't make it. Oh, wait. I thought I saw you right in the group chat. Was that Taylor who said he was disappointed?

He said that he watched it and he was disappointed. Or he thought it was a bit of a chick flick. A little bit. So you didn't end up going to see it? Uh-uh. Something came up. Couldn't go. I won't spoil anything.

It's an entertaining movie, but it's still and i won't spoil anything it's an entertaining movie but it's almost like a double cross because when because melissa and i were both talking about this when you see the billboard where it's like oh deadpool for valentine's day you know you look at that and you think oh they're giving me a way to trick a girl into coming to this guy's movie with me, and she'll have to come and watch this movie that I really want to see. No. No. That was an honest advertisement for the movie. It was a reverse double-cross to trick me into thinking that it was a guy movie,

but really it was exactly what they were portraying. It's a movie for women, with women pandering jokes and one-liners and it's totally a movie geared towards women that all the guys got tricked into going to see. Well, I gotta see

it to form my own opinion, but that's funny if that's true and it's interesting. I did see it broke the opening weekend record for an r-rated film period it beat the matrix i think it was the matrix reloaded uh beat its previous record something like i don't know 80 90 million is is kind of where stuff goes when it does really well if it's r-rated and this shit made like 130 i think is the number so the question is what will hollywood learn from this right they already learned something. The next Wolverines are R-rated. They just announced.

Is it that R-rated superhero movies are good? Or is Deadpool somehow its own movie? I think they're going to see it as its own movie and kind of also see like, well, of course, they had their finger right on the pulse of the Valentine's Day button. And so obviously a ton of people went to see it that weekend. Like pulse of the valentine's day button and so obviously a ton of

people went to see it that weekend like guardians of galaxy right they're like oh this movie's so great because it's not afraid to be fun and laugh at itself and then ant-man comes out also not afraid to be fun and laugh at itself but ant-man was not nearly as i heard uh i heard this guy on i read that reddit post that you read but i also read this guy, he was describing, he seemed like a Marvel apologist, I think. He was saying that, he was like, Guardians of the Galaxy is your Marvel space opera, okay? And Ant-Man, that's your heist movie. And I'm like, what do you mean that's my heist movie? That's my superhero fucking movie.

Ant-Man, that was not a good movie. I watched that on a plane. And you know sometimes if you watch a movie on a plane you're landing and there's still 30 minutes to go i was so glad the plane was landing i was like fuck thank god i don't have to see how this ends i still don't know how it ends but i figure he kicked the yellow jacket's ass right that's what happened yeah yeah it turns out ant-man nailed it in that movie i didn't think he was gonna win you know i was thinking oh my god he is in over his head there's no way I don't think we ever Ant-Man 2 we never discussed Ant-Man I think that was that was like right in the middle that Texas trip for me and I think I came back and just yeah I forgot that I watched on the plane but man I that that

really underwhelmed me um I didn't like it a lot. And if they make many more of those, then their whole little thing is going to crumble, I feel like. That was bad. That was bad. You know what I want you to be able to look at when you watch Deadpool? Is try and find a line of genuine dialogue between any two characters that is not a one-liner. Or a pop culture reference. Try and find any one.

The entire movie. No one talks the way that people talk to each other in real life. There's not a single genuine conversation. It's all just like, oh, yeah, I'm fucking Ryan Reynolds with my love interest. Oh, yeah, you're looking pretty hot in that underwear today. Oh, well, wouldn't you know, you dumb fuck. Oh, I wish I did. Let's go bang. Where it's go bang where it's like oh my god gross like come on act a little bit real like i i like i didn't read the comic or any comics i you know i've read some stuff i guess i've read

comics online that counts right on like immature comics or whatever but um i guess i think that's part of his thing is breaking the fourth wall and being obnoxious like that. I think they tried to – I think that the real Deadpool fans are loving it from what I've read. The question is if I'm a real Deadpool fan. So we'll see. The first 20 minutes are probably maybe even 25 minutes are exceptional. Like I was really, really, really to it. Yeah, a ton of action. But then it just kind of falls.

It's just an entire movie of a guy pining over his girlfriend. I was excited to read today that the next Wolverine was going to be R because I feel like Wolverine is a character that needs to be R. I mean, he's not like – you can't put kit gloves on him. He's not like Magneto who will – huh? No, you can't. That's funny. He's not like Magneto who will... Huh? No, you can't. That's funny. He's not like Magneto who you can be like,

oh, yeah, kids, he's just picking his enemies up and throwing them. He's not Xavier who can be like, oh, yeah, kids, he's just going to get in their minds and make them nice again. He can't even throw explosive cards and just send his enemies flying. He has to rip them a fucking part because he's got six giant adamantium blades coming out of his hands. That's what he does. That and take so much goddamn damage that it's awesome to even watch.

To watch him get dissolved in acid or get his eyes burned out or take a bullet to the fucking head. So he needs to be taking an R-rated level of damage and he needs to be dishing out an R-rated level of damage. So I'm glad to see that. There's been way too many Wolverine movies. God, it's shocking. He's done it like 10 times or something. I remember when the first X-Men movie came out, and I was real excited because I was a big fan of the cartoon growing up, but they've put a ton of those out. Seems like too many. I want to see different comic book heroes, but not Ant-Man.

I didn't feel like we were scraping the bottom of the bucket so much so that we needed to go to Ant-Man. I think Guardians of the Galaxy was just as big a scrape. That's a good point. Yeah, you're right. It definitely was. I didn't know any of those characters before, any of them, and I knew Ant-Man before. That was a rare home run, I think. Wow, it was great. There wasman before that was a rare home run i think wow he's

great there was so much that was great about that um i'm i'm glad they're shooting the next one in 8k or whatever because i i feel like that that that movie's so colorful and like ridiculous that if something's gonna if you want something to look really really good it's that um and the cgi was really good in that um that batista, the professional wrestler who played the giant hulking guy, did a wonderful job. He's not an actor. I guess he is now. I thought it was a good movie.

To me, it was like a B+, A-. The world seemed to treat it like an A+, like an instant classic. I felt A-. I thought it was an A+. I liked it. I was A- on that one. I felt like it was definitely top tier but um it wasn't iron man one right iron man one avengers one was uh the one where the mexican guy just had like electric

cords on his arms that's not a mexican guy that's a that's the russian guy played by mickey rourke that was uh that movie was horrific i would rather re-watch the abortion propaganda video they made me watch in 10th grade than re-watch Iron Man 2. And that movie they showed us was just about 40 minutes of just little dead baby hands just strewn about offices

as if the abortion doctors were just reaching in there with their hands and pulling them out piece by piece. Which I guess they're doing, but not with their hands, with a vacuum, right? Like, got the umbilical cord swinging the baby, aiming for the dumpster. Like, lassoing it around.

Well, that's pretty awful. Yeah, I thought Guardians was great. I really liked it, but Ant-Man didn't do it for me. There was a lot about it. I watched the CinemaSins on it. Like, everything wrong with name a movie in X amount of time or less.

I really liked that series of videos, and I felt like they eviscerated Ant-Man. Not so much, not as badly as they did Fantastic Four, though. If you haven't seen Fantastic Four, there's no reason to ever see it, and I mean that sincerely. You should watch the Everything Wrong With

It in 20 minutes or less or whatever they did, because that gives you the whole movie. You get to watch the movie. You get to know the plot points in case they ever integrate those characters with the rest of the Marvel group even though they're fox and bastardized and all that. But watching that, you quickly see that,

wow, that was a shit movie. I'm glad I didn't see it. That's what I took away from that YouTube video anyway. Yeah, I'm glad it's fantastic for it. Yeah. Did you guys see High Times? No, High Profits. Hawaii from that YouTube video anyway. Yeah, but it's fantastic for it. Yeah! Did you guys see High Times? No, High Profits. High Profits. If that's the one I'm thinking of, then I did

watch at least part of it. Is that the one where they have a new pot shop in... Breckenridge, maybe? God, what's the name of the city? Breckenridge, yeah. Something close to that. And they were getting argued that they would have to go to a different street because they couldn't sell on Main Street

because it was turning off the family vibes of Breckenridge. It was interesting. You never think about how much it goes into it. Super interesting. I watched the whole thing. And so you've got this couple. And early on – So what happened is there were three medical marijuana shops on Main Street.

But only medical marijuana was legal. So it was really hard to stay in business. Two of them went out of business, leaving one left. And then recreational pot becomes legal. And they kill it. They kill it. They're making like a million bucks a month. And they start reinvesting big into their business.

And now they want to grow their own pot. They want to have a second store in another town. I forget where it was. Maybe Steamboat. That's Colorado. Yeah, yeah, maybe Steamboat. I forget. And she's like, you know,

it was neat to watch her have money for the first time. She went clothes shopping. And, like, you know, you go clothes shopping and you're like, oh, this looks nice. But, like, $250 for a shirt? No. And she's like, I can afford this. And she didn't even decide. She came with, like, a rack of clothes.

I don't know how many clothes she bought. I'll call it a foot. Right? Like a foot thick. A foot of clothes. She bought a foot of clothes. If you were to lay them down on the counter, that how many clothes she bought. I'll call it a foot. A foot of clothes. She bought a foot of clothes if you were to lay them down on the counter. That's how much she bought. She had a makeover, which

to be honest, she was a pretty girl. Needed a makeover. Something about her hair was... I don't know if it's the pot or whatever, but she had a... I smoke pot. She had a look about her. This real stringy... She's a pretty girl with blonde hair. It's the pot, yeah. She had the look about her, like this real stringy kind. She's a pretty girl with blonde hair.

It looked a little skunky. Like it, I feel like I'm some sort of pot hater, which is not. Don't encourage him. He's fucking with you right now. No, I said skunky because that's the smell of weed. And she probably did smell skunky. Taylor, do you see the hair like I did though? Did you see the episode

did you get as deep into it as i'm talking about i know what you're talking about yeah it was um have you seen i didn't mind her spoiling herself at least at that part she clearly deserved it at that point she worked really hard and and kind of there were a lot of youtube parallels to me right especially in the early days like how many people did youtube when there was like no money in it um you know i'm not her hair was very different than that guys i mean that's luxurious yeah like if weed was gonna affect your hair like we'd we'd know it by now with that guy but but yeah that guy is does not have her problem um her her hair was just really thin and maybe it's totally unrelated to but i i saw and it was like that looks like weed hair to me but i'm crazy so you got a makeover she was spending

a lot of money for previous and it was neat to see her enter a different tax bracket you know and and she kind of was experiencing it i don't know it was you felt like you were on the ride along with a few money kind of experience and they go come along for the ride yeah and um then things start getting tough because the town doesn't want them there and the town in some ways is wrong uh breckenridge is not a conservative old fogey town they've always had a young kind of liberal vibe lots of skiers and snowboarders, right? These are not people who are like all Mitt Romney's, you know? They're young people and they like it. I think that maybe today they might see a little differently and be like, yeah, you know,

having good pot shops is a draw for tourism. I do understand their concern though with what they were saying because at first i was totally like agreeing with what you're saying where it's like yeah why don't they just have a fucking pot shop there like let it stay on main street let that be their draw and then when one of the council members was like yeah like that is a big draw a bunch of young people are coming here to smoke pot but we're also looking for that family market and if a family run by a mom and dad and a few little kids want to go skiing and they don't want to be exposed to that pot stuff are they going to come to breckenridge or are those families just going to fly out to salt lake city and then go to park city in utah and do all their skiing there and so i hadn't

thought about it until then i'm like oh, oh, shit. Well, that actually is a possibility. And another thing is the family might have a lot more money. Like the dad that takes his whole family skiing maybe owns a small business or something like that. The snowboarder who goes there, there was on the same street, Main Street, there was a guy who owned an art. He sold art. And he's like, I'm'm gonna become a museum right if our clientele shifts to be like picture a snowboarder with dreadlocks that guy none of them are buying my art right that's just not a thing that's gonna happen and the main street they carefully crafted it so that there was no like fast food on it and stuff like that like uh as i'm talking to taylor

it wasn't like pop was the only thing they were wafting into the scene i don't know what that is but um ignore that ignore that instance um uh so they they had a bit of a point but also i feel like you know there's definitely a draw to be had there. It was pretty cool. And they were fighting to stay where they are. There were several votes. They won the votes. And then finally, they lost a vote. And they got kicked off Main Street in the end.

And they had no money. And that was really interesting, too. They're like, you're making a million dollars a month. She's got to be doing that on purpose with the smoke. She is now. What is that? Tobacco products of some sort? It's a tobacco product, yes.

Okay. So anyway, they – oh, oh. But they kept reinvesting. So she literally was short on cash. She's at Target or something and wasn't sure there was enough money left in the bank to cover things and um then they had to move off main street and this show kind of ends it was it scared me about investing in pot because i i felt like they were representative of the industry you know not dumb like ambitious young people unskilled at running a business. After seeing those dispensaries out there, it could be done better.

It could be done so much better. So many different things could be done so much better. Many of them don't have a lot of floor space. I feel like there's not enough room for more than four people to actually be in there shopping at once well they can't have a capital available it's like six potheads who start these things the grow rooms right you think the grow rooms are great but we watch the guy failed his inspections like 10 times and as a guy who's done uh you know construction like the stable in the house and

whatever lately, that's not normal. You know, they come in, they're like, you can't hang four outlets for these grow lights off the same circuit. Like he's like, every one of these circuits has to have one less outlet on it. And I'm thinking, you dumb fuck. Like that's not a mistake that should have ever been made. Every electrician out there knows not to do what you just did what is your problem you know what are you doing here and um i could their hvac was wrong everything was wrong you know they needed a bathroom they didn't know they needed a bathroom and they're like all right exactly what constitutes a bathroom you need to be able to wash your hands do you have to have a toilet does there need to be a shower yeah they're

just like what does it take to pass this bathroom? inspection to coffee cans Right and you know, but I'm thinking to myself like dude you were hoping to open today, right? You've been building this for four months and four months into it. You fail your inspection and say okay exactly What is a bathroom? You know, does it need a door? does it you like you know, is it just a urinal and a sink like what's a bathroom? You know, does it need a door? Does it, you know, like, you know, is it just a urinal and a sink? Like what's a bathroom? And, um, I just feel like this is not a professional operation. Like anyone who had any kind of business head on his shoulders, the architect would have cleared this out at the start. You know, I, I've got drawings for my shop.

I aspire to build that's, you know, already permitted and stamped and load tested and whatever bullshit needs to happen I have better plans for my fucking backyard shop than these guys had for their business Mm-hmm, and I suspect a lot of these penny stocks going for like 67 cents a share are run by people with this level of experience Well, you could go look. I mean, like, I feel like if you were serious about making a serious investment, maybe like, let's go see what these people are about. Let's go see what H&M, you know, Weedtronics is.

Let's see what this penny stock is actually representative of. You know, maybe it's five guys in a shack somewhere who are shitting in a coffee can. Or maybe it's one guy who's really smart and has a great business plan but no capital and and like is the whole going public thing a way to pump and dump like that's a that's a marijuana thing um there are people who are going to be mad at me for like bagging on the marijuana industry but there's excitement around it so they take their like business which is really just like a thousand square foot room that grows pot on it on a bunch of tables and make

it go public and now all of a sudden the thing's worth two and a half million dollars when it's nothing it's never made any money its whole purpose in the in the first place was to just take money from your pocket and put it in mine i feel like there's such an opportunity there to make money though like not like that per se but like all right so think about it this way all right right now like if i mentioned soda you think of coke or pepsi if i mentioned coffee you think of folders or or or nest cafe or whatever there's not that for weed yet. Now there's celebrities who are jumping in and that's a smart thing to do. If you could get yourself a celebrity

and build his pot business for him, that's a way to make a lot of money. If you can go to Is it Seth Rogen? Is that the guy I'm thinking of? Seth Rogen would be a good one because Wiz Khalifa, Snoop Dogg, a couple other, Willie Nelson, they've all got their own shit. Snoop Dogg has his own other, Willie Nelson, they've all got their own shit.

Snoop Dogg has his own vape pen. It's called the G-Pen, I think. I'm 90% sure that everything I just said is true. But if you go to someone like Seth Rogen and be like, look, we want you to be the face of our brand, our strain, our pipes, our rolling trays, our papers, there's going to be Seth Rogen everything.

And you could just, and all you need to do, Seth, is sign here and you get $300,000 and we start selling and you get this and that and this and that. That would be a way to make a lot of money. But another way would be to establish your own brand. Become Marlboro. Become Budweiser. Get out there and make the best product affordably and have a gold standard. What I had in my head is like, show me the four companies poised to become Anheuser-Busch, right? And I will invest in the four or pick my favorite three or something and see where that goes because it's in such an infancy. I'm pretty sure Anheuser-Busch just bought Coors. So there aren't really any companies that can compete with them now. Well, I'm trying to say the Anheuser-Busch just bought Coors. So there aren't really any companies that can

compete with them now. Well, I'm trying to say the Anheuser-Busch of pot. Oh, so just the big company. I bet Marlboro will get into it. I feel like it's not going to be a bunch of new companies once it's federally legal. I feel like it's going to be a few of those old huge companies like

Camel or Marlboro who are going to start up and just skyrocket right off the bat and then you'll have the small startup ones i don't know i don't know that doesn't sound crazy to me you know yeah that could be i i don't i don't think the marijuana culture will will follow suit with that i don't think they want that i i don't think they'd be interested in i think they want to build their own brands and and and uh and it'd be it to be organic i i think if you just plug in marlboro greens you know and lay them right in there with like established products that they've been maybe willing that they've been already establishing like i don't think it would perform as well what if they're a little cheaper and they get you high yeah what if let's say you

can buy a pack of of course they get marl There's an ounce of it for $10 as opposed to the Seth Rogen crazy strain, which has a picture of his face or click a button like a holiday card, and it goes like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, and you still get the weed. But it's four times as much. What we have now, and gosh, I'm so outside my expertise, but what we have now, I think, is like all the micro brews. It's better than that. It's better than that already. and gosh, I'm so outside my expertise, but what we have now, I think, is like all the micro brews, you know? It's better than that.

It's better than that already. So like there are established strains now that are brands. The Girl Scout Cookies brand was advertising on the last episode of PKA. They're buying ad time against the phrase strain central. So because he was on our show, their ad's rolling on your thing. And we saw that out in Colorado. That was a very popular brand. Everybody was talking about it. It was in all the stores.

It was just, you know, I heard it everywhere we went. And in different dispensaries from friends we knew, they bought some. That's what they were smoking a lot of the time was Girl Scout cookies. And like the THC slash CBD content is on there. It's really more medical than anything. It's on there to the decimal point, like how potent the stuff you're getting is.

And I feel like that in the infancy of the business was probably a big deal. It was like, am I even getting good stuff? How do I know if I'm getting good stuff? But I think they've passed that period now. One thing that was fun in the High Profits, the television series I watched, the town council was discussing edibles and how stupid they fucking are.

He's like one of the EMTs, the emergency medical technicians maybe. They were reporting to people who were too high a lot. Now, they admitted that alcohol causes bigger problems. When people go to this pot shop, they don't leave high. They get high at home or whatever. People are going to bars and stuff, and now you have drunk people on Main Street.

So maybe we kind of agreed alcohol was a bigger problem, but that pot was not a non-problem. And one of the problems they had was the damn cookies. They're like, you have to eat an eighth of a cookie? And these guys innovated. They're like, this is our Rookie Cookie. And the Rookie Cookie is for people who want to eat a whole cookie.

And don't know, they're not used to edibles, it's a little weaker, it's this and that you can have a cookie this is a dose and i was like yes rookie cookie that's a brilliant idea and i think just in 10 seconds i think a lot of people might not be ashamed to self-identify as rookie to edibles and be like yeah i'll have a cookie i'll do it so they fix that as well now um for one, you mentioned not getting high at the store. It's illegal to smoke in public. But also, all of the edibles now are 10 milligrams, all of them. So whether it's a cookie this big or it's like a tiny little breath mint

that's the size of a pea, they're all the same. How much is 10 milligrams? It depends on your tolerance, but about like smoking a whole joint. But then you eat it, so you feel it different, so you experience it differently. That's still a lot of pot. Yeah, I think it's meant to get you high and all. Yeah, I would hope so. When I said it'll get you high, I was doing the it'll get you drunk thing.

Yeah, it gets you drunk. Yeah, yeah. doing the it'll get you drunk thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was like you know there are people they're eating um i saw someone consume 80 milligrams and then smoke lots of dabs in one day and he was fine so but there are the emts were saying that some people were they didn't use the word fooled but like inexperienced enough to overdo it on edibles. Oh yeah. And if I was a pot shop, I'd be like,

you know what? We're going to educate the fuck out of our customers. You know, big signs, ask us questions. They have, they did that. There was a,

did they? Yeah. So this thing, I imagined it happening around 2014, something like that. And, and now they're now they're moving forward. So anyway, it was super interesting. And you got to see what I thought were some mediocre businessmen running the pot shop.

Not awful. Mediocre means medium, I think. But she's like, I want to be the Steve Jobs of pot. Six months later, she's like, how can I get out of this business? It's too stressful. I'm done. You know, it'd be better for my, she and her, um, it was her boyfriend, but I think they were like mega serious, like life partners, just not married. for our relationship if he handles everything and um so that it didn't take long before she's going from i want to be steve jobs to i'd like to be a stay-at-home mom uh you know a couple of months yeah overall good documentary i saw bill there were billboards out there about not eating too much um too many edibles or too much of edibles um it was on all the products you know on there like warnings about

something about don't ruin your vacation or something. Don't ruin your good time. And then at the dispensary when they were buying edibles, they'd say, hey, do you know about edibles? Have you had edibles before? This is a lot of edibles you just bought.

Why do you need so many? It's always going to be a problem with pot in that way, even once everybody's educated. Because when you sell someone a bottle of Bacardi 151, you don't need to say, hey, don't just turn this upside, like a bottle of Sprite, and drink 10 ounces of this at once. But I'm thirsty.

That's what I drink when I'm thirsty. This is horrific. Somehow alcohol is self-correcting in that way, right? Yeah, but with pot, it's like, I'm eating a slightly bad-tasting cookie. I'll have four more because now I'm high and I want more cookies.

I didn't know until you told me, I'll make it up two months ago, edibles taste yucky-ish. There's like a hint of yuck. Yeah, if someone handed you like a wonderfully professionally baked pot brownie and then just a wonderfully baked regular brownie and you had a bite of both, there would be no competition between which one you thought tasted better. The regular one.

That's me popping Quibble Cop's balloon. The whole thing about being involuntarily. They tell me that there are drugs in it, and then I try. I ask, are there drugs? And they say yes, and so I have. And I end up high. They drug me. That is the way we Danes are.

Very trusting in people. That's not being drugged, Quibble Cop. I think that's just taking drugs no no he tell i ask him i say are there drugs in this cookie and he says yes and then i eat the cookie they did say no it was is this a pot cookie and they're like no and he's like all right then not a pot cookie as far as this thing's tasting bad like like it would depend how big of a thing you're eating like if you ate a pie that was one dose you probably wouldn't taste it because like most of the time with edibles what you're eating is

canna butter or canna oil which is oil or butter that's been infused with the THC by cooking it down and all that stuff. But it's a really rancid kind of plant, weedy, awful, stinky taste. And if you put it in one of those little candies or a taffy or something, it's still awful and rancid. I'm sure there are edibles

that taste good, like maybe one of those big coconut macaroon things that's 10 milligrams. What about a pot lollipop? I would imagine that would taste bad as well. The process for doing that is slightly different. I've read about it, though. What did you say, Taylor? Tincture?

No, I said I've never... You have way more experience with all of these edible like specialty things than me I was saying I didn't think that a lollipop would taste bad because there's so much sugar in it that like it's just so it's a lollipop so it's just

sugar and pot you know like I know they didn't have any lollipops but they were saying that they had like hard candies and they weren't exactly I think they look like Jolly Ranchers. And those tasted awful apparently.

So that sounds like the same thing as a sucker. I'd like to try some of those crazy pot edibles but at the same time it's bright. How far are you from Colorado if you drove? If I drove... I'm like 12 hours to denver shit i have to go across all of nebraska or kansas you know dealer's choice and it's not much fun to go either of those you want to see corn or

corn anybody yeah it's just a shot on 70 across the most boring landscape on the planet to get there could be idaho i mean is there anything new is there anything new with the knives the pka knives i haven't asked in a while so the reason it's taken so long is you know they went to show they were at shot show when we were like vert coming up with the idea or whatever that was shot so i think they had a lot of business before and after but there was a six weekweek wait time just to get the knives, which is probably getting close to being done, I'll ask. Okay. Yeah.

That's one of our ideas that I'm most excited about. Like, you know, I want to be proud of the product. Like, the wings thing. No, I'm sorry. The hot sauce idea is good, but I feel like it's a novelty thing. It's not going to be hot sauce that you've like nothing you've ever had before. Yes, it will.

It's going to be hot sauce that you like. That's what it should be. Stop shitting on our product. It'll be the best hot sauce you've ever had. In the multiverse. Alright, it's going to be great hot sauce. And it's going to be good hot sauce that we picked out.

Yeah, come on, play it up. Let's go. I guess maybe I just have a passion for the knife. Maybe that's what it is. You're catching my bias. I really want the knife thing to happen. I can't wait to have it. I want one in my pocket.

I wish I had it now. I wish I had had it today when I was doing a thing. So I just wonder where it is. And I want that had it now. I wish I had had it today when I was doing a thing. So I just wonder where it is. And I want that one in particular. So I was just asking about, hey, we're going to get it. That's that. I think Kyle might have more of a passion for the hot sauce. I'm excited about both.

I think the idea of just kind of merchandising and coming up with things that are not just a random keychain to sell, but something that we're into. You're into everyday carry stuff. I've always loved the many ideas we'd come up with, brainstorming with Wings Redemption, from Fat Lincoln to the Wings Redemption hot sauce, all those things. I love them.

I wrote a speech for Fat Lincoln one time. It was like, Four score and three Call of Duties infinity ward you know it was great but you know i had this whole thing for him to read i wonder how fat lincoln would have turned out it would have been funny at all just just let it go i score and 7 000 calories ago yeah i i made a um a video I've talked about it several times. It was on some Black Ops 1 map. And I was doing like the Any Given Sunday speech. Domination is a game of inches, et cetera, et cetera. And I thought it was going to be a great video,

like a million view inspirational crazy thing. And it was just pissed on. And I watched it again more recently and I can see that the video did indeed suck that like I was too brainwashed to understand I was like I guess they just don't like new things and then I watched it and it was like no they don't like bad things that's the issue I I wonder if you had taken wings outside of the thing that he does well you know into a abe lincoln speech if it would have turned out like my al pacino speech i think you got to get

him like like the way i would do it i definitely film it with not that there was any kind of video film and during the 1860s um you know but i would do some black and white effect so that you know the frames are a little jumpy and stuff like that, and maybe film it at an upward angle. Cigar burns. Get him dressed up in the thing, and do quick cuts. Like, I don't expect Wings to be able to go, to say like

ten words in a row correctly, or with emphasis, or the correct emphasis, or with any emphasis, really. But, you know, if you're going to direct Wings of Redemption, you just need quick spouts that you edit together. i need him to go four score and seven thousand calories ago and then like cut that and then just like have it be real quick and stuff it could have been funny but you gotta you'd have to be funny writing and he'd have to be looking like lincoln and he'd have to take that shit seriously with you know and not be being silly or anything. And it could be funny.

As like a 45 second video though. It's not like a series where let's see what Fat Lincoln's doing this week. It's not that or anything. There's not going to be a Fat Lincoln channel. This week on Fat Lincoln. You want to call it a wrap? Yeah. Alright. Painkiller

nearly episode 79 which is kind of cool. I think that's a lot of episodes. One less than 80. All right. Nicely done, Kyle.