Pappy's Flatshare - House Meeting (Sports Wine) S11E45

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

Matthew, Ben and Tom slide into your ear canal for a catch-up. The hardest job in the world? Probs being the ad exec for a whiskey, so it's time for us to take it on and see where we can get to with s...elling alcoholSome in real life live shows to come along to!15th November https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/1969958488876th December https://www.pleasance.co.uk/event/pappys-flatshare-christmas-podcast-double-bill-0#overviewPappy’s - https://twitter.com/pappystweetSupport us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/pappysflatshareEdited by Emma Corsham Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:24 For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy respons essentials. Order Uber Eats now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See out for details. Greetings, Lister Dear, I'm Tom. I'm Ben. I'm Matthew and welcome to another episode of Pappy's Flat Share House Meeting. House Meeting. House Meeting. Always a pleasure, never a national treasure. That's our motto.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Absolutely. Absolutely. So, it's broken. Yes, this is the version of our pod where we just get together and choose. If anything, the most traditional thread. Right, say so, yeah, yeah, yeah. And also as well, the sort of, the thread, I think, that serves its purpose most keenly in that we don't see each other. We still haven't really spent a lot of time, the three of us together in the same room.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So it does feel like a genuine, it is a genuine catch-up when we get together and we're out of chat. So you'll find out how our families are doing, you'll find out. That reaction clarkies back is cleared up. We're going through my bank account at one point. It's just like friends do when they get together. And that is their own check list. Well, speaking of being the same I speak, we're speaking to be in the same room together. We've got to tell people about the next flat-shear slam down. Oh, la, la, because it's actually a live! We are back doing a live flat slam!
Starting point is 00:01:58 Life on a London stage! And it's live! And it's live, by the way, doing a bench, it's live! So, 15th of November, we will be recording at the Phoenix in Justoff Oxford Circus. We've got two incredible guests, haven't we, Clarky? Oh, yes, we do. We've got Maisie Adams. Yeah, Macy Adams, yeah, yeah. Macy Adams. Yeah. He's so dubless. Macy and Tussle aren't going to be our guest.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. As we're recording this, which is about a week away from this episode going out, it's very, very nearly sold out. If it's sold out by the time you hear this, apologies, but it's been a while, isn't it? People have been chomping at the bit. But if you don't get tickets to that, get tickets to the show at the Pleasant on the 6th of December, which is our Christmas show, and it's a double bill.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Always the highlight of the year, the Christmas show will be playing 12 days of Christmas, no dates. I'm gonna start thinking about that in the room. That's the thing, isn't it? You know, you book it in, you feel a real elation, as I did when I booked it in with the Pleasant. Great, we're gonna do the show again,
Starting point is 00:03:06 sick the December, it's gonna be loads of fun. And then slowly you go, oh yeah, that does mean an entire day of trying to work out what we haven't done already for the 12 days of Christmas. Yeah, remember, I don't have to rhyme, just has to be a vague assonance. A vague assonance. A vague assonance.
Starting point is 00:03:23 But surely the assonance at some point is going to run out. Well, this is it. I think currently we're just getting vague or an vague or an vague. Until we've actually got no assonance left. I'm a great believer in eternal assonance. It's the name of my company. It's the name of my limited company. And it's the tattoo that I have.
Starting point is 00:03:42 We actually just balanced his checkbook. Or his company, yeah. During the part, so... He's got a corporation tax to pay on your return last sentence. If you're enjoying what we do on the main feed, come over to the Patreon if you haven't already for four parents a month. You get something to do.
Starting point is 00:04:02 You get a safe for four, five, five. I can't remember the page of a month. For fuck's sake. And some month, you get an extra, you get loads of bonus stuff, but you get to listen to the extra podcast that we put out every week. Flat slum, well what we call now, flat share pop round, we call it. Flat share pop round, yeah. Yeah. To give it, it's unpopular new name.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. And also you get a whole other bunch of stuff, but yeah, come over to the Yeah, yeah It's unpopular new name And I'm also you get a whole other bunch of stuff, but yeah come over to the page and there's a lovely community there You can send us messages listen to the extra podcast and you get all of the back Catalog of our bonus stuff, so that's over a hundred hours. They say oh It's way more than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's there's there's over 200 episodes 200 bonus episodes, so if you like what we do and you'd like to hear more, yeah. There's over 200 episodes, 200 bonus episodes. So if you like what we do and you'd like to hear more of it to the tune of 200 episodes, then get yourself over to the Patreon. You get the second you join, you get everything, you get the entire lot. There are people who've worked their way through all the way from the
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Starting point is 00:05:28 Okay, so... Anyway, enjoy the house meeting and we will see you, Don's, la, the side. Sorry. Oh, you don't have to apologize, that was lovely. I've had a thought. I've got an issue. I've got a question I want to ask you. I want to talk. I want a chat.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Okay, let's sit down and chew the fat. Has meeting. What temperature should we set the heat to? Has meeting. Why on earth am I always waiting? Has meeting. Who went my bed while I was sleeping? Has has a half meeting. This has a half meeting. What's the point? Does life have a meeting? Half meeting. Here's something that occurred to be seconds before we press record. Oh yeah. Always good.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Always good fresh, a fresh thought. That's what we need. It may be too fresh. Oh. Well, let's give it a little bit time to percolate in the air. Let's air dry. Can you think of like on social media basically an advert just
Starting point is 00:06:30 Flashed up and Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're about to record and you're checking your goddamn Twitter. Oh, I was getting a final I was gonna get in a final check in because dopamine hit just just wanted to make sure I'm going to have a hot re-tweet and how are you re-tweet at the moment? Are they strong? You know what? No, but the likes are slow. That's it. That's how he makes up for it, isn't it? The re-tweet is weak but know, on the flip side of that. Don't worry, on the plus side, I like this look.
Starting point is 00:07:07 The likes are coming. The likes are coming like the molasses, basically. But, and I thought a couple of days ago, but there was two different, is there a hangover? Hangover, hold tight, your story's falling apart here. Did you think in a couple of days ago, or did you think it just before your press record? I had like, it flashed, it made me think,
Starting point is 00:07:27 oh, I've been thinking about this. Right. And it'll remind you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll allow it. We'll remind you of a thought. Not even that, I was like, oh, this might be interesting to discuss.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And do you think we're gonna like this idea? I think, I think actually, I think the like, or we're gonna read Twitter. I feel pretty confident that likes or come quite slowly on this one actually. I'm feeling that's good. That's good to know actually. Is there a harder more creative selling advertising than Scotch Whiskey?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Because you see that right, you see those adverts and they're always like man with a cane and a turquoise hat, you know like on it and it's on like you know like a peacock driving a car gets out and sips, but we all know what whiskey actually tastes like. It tastes like scotch. It's like, it tastes like something that's you're drinking out of a shoe. Here's the thing. I don't get those targeted ads because you're ads on social media are specifically designed for you. And so something about what you're looking at on the internet is suggesting you are the kind of cultured, uh, uh, a lair of the manner who would be sipping a Scotch whiskey. Well, you just, uh, you just hired a peacock to a driver car. That's why you're getting that.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Here's the difference. Perry looks at peacocks on the internet. I shop at peacocks. For all of my clothing needs. There's like, no, there's one that was on, there's one on telly at the moment, which is like a gang of kind of like cool 20-somethings all hangin' out, having a hip-hop old laugh,
Starting point is 00:09:02 you know, wearing trill behats and, and cut a collar's cock to one side. But they're all having the great time, like, I'm just, I'm having this time. They're all having this time. Cut a collar's cock to the one side, and they had a strong breeze.
Starting point is 00:09:14 What's going on? But they're all, like, you know, like it could be an advert for, it could be an advert for KFC, you know, like it's exactly the same kind of colors and vibe. Right. But everyone's drinking scotch, and you're like, that is never the vibe when everyone's drinking scotch Like if you're in a room and everyone's drinking scotch, that's gonna be a fight. I once like
Starting point is 00:09:35 Breezing around and like you know like and like yeah, it's true. It's it's a table or some shit Guys I should say I've been sponsored by P-Cock Whiskey. Did you not get the email? Another one of our failed sponsorship reads. Let's just use the copy that they've said. But try and make it sound like we're just saying it. Okay, let's go action Tom bear yeah do you have a fine peacock whiskey is made from Petey Herbie's
Starting point is 00:10:18 Petey Herbie's Smalt is the guy who said it's the email That's the person who does the advertising for Acastia. He's just launched all his life savings into Peacock whiskey and he's emailing around to see if anyone applies. Pety Herbisch Mal. Pety Herbisch Mal is not whiskey. You've got to try it, guys. Pety Herbisch Mal, it's my name. When you've got me. Now, Tom, are you thirsty? I'm known as the second greatest show in...
Starting point is 00:10:45 LAUGHTER The first... I see your colours cut to one side. I've got something for you. Let me introduce you to the first greatest show and my peacock. LAUGHTER Just come through a front wall mate.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yes, Pist. LAUGHTER Have you... Have you confused peacocks withots with Roadrunner? I've got a lot of fun. It's Wily Coyote, here's that you. Rips off the mask. I've got a friend that I said Wily Coyote, he doesn't wear masks.
Starting point is 00:11:17 How many products in Coyote? By the way. Oh please don't tell me we've got another Hermione on my hand. K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K-O-T! K- Well booze. It's kind of like your booze is a hard one to sell, isn't it? Because the reality, isn't it? Because I've been, you can sell me any kind of booze. I'm right now. It's hard to get people to want to drink booze. That's easy. But it's hard to make an advert that doesn't suggest that drinking is a bit bleak.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Look at guineas, when you're growing up and you're looking at all the guineas at booze, was we grew up in the golden age of guineas at booze? Oh absolutely. Yeah, the press press press. I don't presume you're age at all the Guinness Adverts. Was we grew up in the goal of the age of Guinness Adverts? Oh absolutely, yeah. The press press press press. I don't presume you're age, but like, oh my god. Take the foot of the top. I'm in the masterpieces. And I'm not saying, like, obviously don't get me wrong,
Starting point is 00:12:13 I like drinking Guinness, but when you actually first, having watched all of those adverts, when you first come to drinking Guinness and you realize that it's this heavy stout, it's an old man's, basically it's always old man drinks. Yeah. Always try really hard in this cell to make it seem like they're not old man drinks, but when push comes to shove, when you set around sipping again,
Starting point is 00:12:35 isn't drinking a scotch, you know, it's not, it isn't what it's not passing time. It's not passing time. It's not, you know, exactly right. Like the peacocks bit just got divorced. It's lost a lot time, it's not parcel time. It's not, you know, exactly right. Like the peacock's bit just got divorced. It's lost a lot of money on a bit. That's kind of like the reality of it. That's what you want to see is like a peacock being like to his mate. I'll come on, stay out for one more.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I've got nothing to go on to. By peacock's catch. When you're drinking to forget, it's like, God, I saw the tail feather last week. Oh, that was the all-fated Ray Charles follow-up songs. I'm not going to gas money, I've got to say that I'm a tail feather. I'm driving this fucking comedian around the country, I don't know what I'm saying going to gas money, I've got to say that I'm a sailfer there. I'm driving this fucking comedian around the country. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know, I just have to go armors on the petrol.
Starting point is 00:13:31 So what do you want from your, I mean, I guess the thing with booze is that when you're a kid, you assume it's gonna all taste sweet. Especially like, you assume that whiskey's gonna taste a bit like honey, especially because sometimes they'll say, like, oh, it's got a real honey flavor or something like that. And you'd be like, oh, brilliant, this is gonna taste a honey. And it doesn't, you're right, it's a strong taste, but then, I do like whiskey, I do enjoy the taste of it.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, it's taking me a very long time to get to the point of people. But I don't know, I don't know if that was a worse one. I don't think any booze is such a weird one, isn't it? Because on paper, it shouldn't really be a goa. And when you taste it, it's not really a goa. No, come on wine, you've got to admit. No, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:14:26 First of it, yeah, but not to begin with. Oh no, but yeah, I didn't like wine at first. No, I didn't like any of it. No one thinks all. I'm sure Steve, glug, glug, why? No, not first, you know. First of all, that's a lovely thing. Oh, finally, we're back on the first.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Now we're talking, okay. Have you not seen the advert for Sports Wine? I just have to look at it. That sports wine I got my god oh my god sports wine I love well sports wine I would buy I've got to speak to Peter heerby heerby smolt is that's the yeah Peter be smolt some of Raiders's patented it. At the end of this episode, a big reveal. I am Peter be smolts. It's not that big a reveal. It's not a massive reveal.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I've been drinking since midday. I only got with my car. Anyway, if this was like a film with a bad twist, all those things would be true. Anyway, no, I'm not going to. Would that be a thing to, no, would it be a thing today? Go on. It's litters in, Barry, litters in.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Like we go back through all our kind of house meetings and then, and already I'm going to stop you there. No, I'm not about. The number of ideas you have involved, someone, never you, listening back to things you've said in the past. What you need is, you know, you need a stenographer. Yeah. Well, you're a peacock using your tone for that. You're the featherer as a quill. Yeah, well you're a peacock using it so
Starting point is 00:16:11 If you were a peacock, yeah, would you be able to do that to think like pluck one out? Use it pop it back. No, if not If you think about a peacock one of the things they don't have his fingers or an arm And also I don't think poor old peac I don't what's that? Poor old peak actually. I don't don't go pity in the peak of the peak of doesn't pee itself does it? Probably does a bit I mean it's it's not designed for anything I've done to look like nice but it's it's kind of like wildly impractical isn't it? If it was a human it'd be on Maiden Chelsea wouldn't it yeah it's really got my my a friend of mine who it's got a lot of money bought a very big posh house I'm right here I'm doing your don't mind you're using my okay? I've got a suit in these days by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Okay, yeah, my friend P.T., let's call him P.T. With his whiskey money, before the house, that came with peacocks, that's the level of kind of posh. Oh! And came with peacocks, and the peacocks all killed each other. Like they sort of like basically one peacock killed the rest of them Oh, it wasn't like a pack Themselves out one no, there was I think I think I've got five bullets in this gun. There's five of us like
Starting point is 00:17:40 Just gonna run us all over in this car. I think it was it was just one that kills all of them. It wasn't a cult. It wasn't a pink cult. It happened to move in just before they thought it was the apocalypse. If they ever- Would I wear in like robes? I guess they are in the way. Yeah, they are wearing robes. And there's our light robes.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But yeah, heat, no. I don't think one picked all the other ones off. I think they all basically murdered each other until there was one left. Oh, like a royal rumble, like a battle royale. Yeah, yeah, they all murdered each other. Were they Korean? Peacocks.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I don't know. I'm just keeping it not. They had traveled quite a long old way. But yeah, it was mad because you sort of assume they're quite... because the way they look, quite beautiful, you know, you assume they're going to be kind of graceful and therefore loving. Well, there's a lesson in that, isn't there? I spaced one, said, the female of the species is more deadly than the meal. I'm just going to have to reiterate that it is the bail speech. But it's always great to hear a space reference in 2021.
Starting point is 00:18:58 When we say Thomas has been drinking from midday, we mean midday 1996. LAUGHTER It's how you've all been. He blacked out for the noughties. I'm telling you, at least back. I have a noughty, regular l... Anyway, I will say this one. That's what I'm... LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:19:20 LAUGHTER A space as a band. Listen to the deer, feel free to go back on Spotify to explore. Great band. One of my least favourite phrases on social media. I don't know if you can tell, but I spend quite a lot of time on social media these days. How's it going? I'm just moving down the blinding. How are the likes?
Starting point is 00:19:46 They take a long way to get to it. That's the only reason. Much like the journey from extra to London. It's slow. Goat impressions. Let's hear bleeding. The phrase lives rent free in my head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I cannot get on board with that. I don't know if it's rent free in your head. Absolutely. Absolutely does my hair. Are you ready? Because it's like nothing pays rent to be in your head. But isn't it suggesting that there are some people who, there are some people who work hard to stay in your head and that is the rent they're paying, you know, whereas there are other
Starting point is 00:20:36 things that just you obsess on whether you want to or not. Right, well there you go. And I think I only really realized and connected with the phrase when I started realizing how much the lyrics of and the work of the band space. A band of lyrics I really liked. I never bought their album. But oh my god their songs come to me two or three times a week. So like the big hits as far as I can remember, obviously it's, there's you and me against the world. Hey now, me and you against the world now.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Look up there in the sky now. Yes. The aforementioned female species was the balance of Tom Jones. Yeah. That was, yeah. Yeah. Was the ballad of Tom Jones was yeah, that was yeah, literally you've literally named the three that you know They're always there man. They're always there the three top answers on the leaderboard was
Starting point is 00:21:37 Neighborhood oh, yeah man neighborhood But that neighbor but that doesn't that's not in there no I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I never knew that. I'm happy to go to make good there. You were, you liked carist, didn't you? I liked carist, let me tell you that. That horse. No, no, don't say it in the flight, I'm like, you're back to win, you're not a big... You're not a big international velvet.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Well, I guess there were horses on the front, like a Guinness advert. I feel like, Harry, if you don't ket him in or something, it brains you to fix it. No, no, no, no, listen, carries both carries Matthews and Hugh Morgan. Two 90s, I would say divisive figures, right?
Starting point is 00:22:38 OK. Bit marmite at the time, people either love them or you hated them. Clark, he was never a catatator you find couldn't stand the voice does an important did that used to do an impression of it frequently sorry maybe it lived rent free in his head either that was so accurate it pinned the song a thing the balance of Tom Jones no but but both of those people have gone on to become
Starting point is 00:23:05 two of the finest broadcasters in Britain. And that feels very satisfying to come up, mate. Crossbees right there. They've come good, Genevieve. They've come good. They kind of you stuck you back to winner. Yeah, but not as recording artist. That was, you know, as,
Starting point is 00:23:24 was that what you were backing up? Oh, no, I don't like the music I'm a cordic artist. No, it's... What's that while you were backing up? Oh, no, I don't like the reason I'm singing. I'm singing, but I love what you're all about. So can you start playing your records as start playing records by other people than I'm on board with? It feels like, it feels like when you're one of the first players, when you're playing Fancy Football League
Starting point is 00:23:45 and you pick someone like, I know like, I know a lot of people might say this, but like I was one of the first people to adopt Harry Kane. Yeah. Wait, and you adopted Harry Kane? Sure, you should have thought you, when they did so well in the Euro. Thanks to my stepdad. I I was like I saw Harry early doors
Starting point is 00:24:08 And he was in there I'm I you see him when he was I playing football Like especially he started off playing cup games for spurs He was playing for top and hot spur He was playing for Totten Hotspur. He was playing for not a bit of time, yeah. I would say one of the big ones. You made this little discovery, this little underground discovery while he was playing for one of the biggest teams in the world.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Listen, there's a little badge you might want to check out, cold play. I think big things for you. If you've not heard you too, then I really think that's the time to hop on boards. Yeah, but how good at DJing is the edge? That's what I want to know. Can the edge spin this record or not?
Starting point is 00:24:58 That's not what that is. Anyway, it just feels good, do you know what I mean? You think, oh, actually, they've come good. Or they are, they were good, or they must have had. Okay, let's flip the scripts on this, Tom, because I'm interested in this. Who are you disappointed that they've succeeded? Who do you think, oh, it's not good that they've come good?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Oh, I see what you mean. You went on record as not being a fan of theirs in the early days. Yes. Oh Prince Andrew. He was my favorite prince. He was, you know, he was the decent one, you know, I mean I'm just like you just. Who you? No, I don't know if you've got any, who springs to mind for you culturally and you think someone you weren't on board? Because when you were, certainly the way we were being clarky when we were teenagers,
Starting point is 00:25:52 it was kinda like, yeah. I had, you're on, you gotta pick teams. You're a very strong, it's the way you think good and you think a rubbish. And it really, it's really stick with you. I was, but it's how you were raised, you were raised that way by the music press, you know? Like they invented that whole beetle stones pick a side
Starting point is 00:26:10 and it's like, why? You don't have to, you know? Yeah? Why pick a side? I think Danny Baker wrote a tweet about it a few weeks ago and quite eloquently said like, I'm so, I'm so, I'm kidding. Why is going on with this one? It's an old man, come on. Coming up a chat down the part with some of the other dads. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god, I'm so excited. I got across what you can say about the level height. No, I was just thinking there were real celebs that I had proper, like, even up until university, I had like a real aversion to. And I think back on them now, I think, why? Why did I care? Why was I bothered by it? What was it about them that really ground my gears in a way that I didn't like Jamie
Starting point is 00:27:06 Oliver? Really didn't have a thing for Jamie Oliver. Don't worry, Clark, it wasn't his dimensions, I have anything against. That's the way you looked from behind. I just don't know if it was really... I was really like, I thought he was just such a prat and actually, like, he was fine, wasn't he? It was, you know, it was, yeah. It was really, like Denise Van Alton was another person. I thought when Denise Van Alton, it was on the big breakfast, I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:34 she's rubbish, why is she on the big breakfast? Now I think she's brilliant. I don't know what it is about certain people. Is it people from Essex, do you ever probably, is that what it is now? Well now I say the two out of that. Do you have a problem with people from Essex? Surely there's going to be some Essex people out there that I like. But I think when you're that age you're really like you're after an identity and having strong opinions seems to help. Yeah, it's so true.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And it does come from music, isn't it? You define yourself by, I really like this band. That's very important that you know that. I'm wearing the T-shirt of this band. That's sort of not. Yeah, and the dislikes are as important as the likes, which they really shouldn't be, but it is slight. And also there's a certain thing of like,
Starting point is 00:28:25 one, you see the world in front of you and you think I can do better than this or that or that person's doing it how it should be and I can do it as well. And when you see someone successful who you think that, you know, and so I think that's what you get with youth whereas the older you get you like go fair play you did it they're doing it man yeah they're doing it man yeah fair play you know all they're giving it a go or they're just a person aren't they giving it a go and then
Starting point is 00:28:57 we've all got circumstances and you know maybe he doesn't sweat or you know whatever you know whatever he wants. You know, you know, you're like, you're gonna have a lot of fun. You know, you do, you kind of go like, oh you know, they're a guy, they wrote some songs, people like them, I don't like them, but people like them, you know. Live and let live. Those, you know, thousands of people who are going to their concerts, they're in a lovely time.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Who am I to police their good time? Does that make you less interesting when you go down that route? Because I always used to think that about my dad, when I used to want to talk to him about films or music. And so if he'd be like, yeah, you know, music's nice and films are good. And then, you know, I'd be like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:44 but what are the top five worst films you've ever seen? And he'd be like, I don are good and you know and I'd be like yeah what are the top five worst films you've ever seen and you'd be like I don't know you know I enjoy watching films you know and it's like you go no no you need to know you need to know the five worst films you know I tell you I really like 16 or 17 and I know that you realise yeah because you when you when you're dad you kind of go well they made a film well done done, you know, God, they're families must be really proud of them. What were the films on your list? What were your films that you were like? It's a pull in this exists. I don't, I mean, I'm trying to think, I think I remember getting to that certain age where you go like, for example, the Matrix
Starting point is 00:30:24 sequels and you're like, they've ruined the Matrix, and like stuff like that, you know, where you come out and you're angry, because you were expecting something that wasn't. Yeah, yeah. I don't think, I mean, I didn't really have critical faculties until about the age of about 19 or 20, I think, and that's what I started about 19 or 20 I think and that's
Starting point is 00:30:45 what I started to be like oh I think I can think for myself about things it was kind of like if I read it in Empire I'd kind of probably go with it yeah quite a lot of the time. I think I think I developed them quite late maybe even later than that and then I had them for about three or four years and then I got rid of him again. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Yeah. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Which is, it's mad, but yeah. They used to be a joke, because I did film studies at university. We all go to the cinema a lot, and I would always go, that was great, wasn't it? I came up to the cinema, just like, wasn't that great? And everyone was like, no, that was really bad stuff. And I was like, yeah, but come on. It was fun. You know like it's better than staying in like you know being at the cinema I think I enjoyed the the the um like the the act of going out to the cinema so much I know I know exactly who you're talking about as well. I think because Matthew because your two housemates had fierce critical faculties.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yes. Almost felt like they were born with them like you can imagine them being that way like as kids in prime, we scored a lot something and like I remember finding them in timet, like people like that quite intimidating when that when people are so sure of their, you know, I can remember. You want to see how many dead Peacocks they've each got in their gardens. If you want to see real intimidating things. I remember someone, I hear someone describe it, but I'm sure I've said this for them. I was in the sign, they said that band a great aren't they? They're saying so tight. And then like two weeks later, we went
Starting point is 00:32:17 to a gig in London Matthew with you and your housemates and I said to your house mate, go, that was great. They were so tight. And he was like, you think so. Oh my God, no, I don't think they were tight at all. And I was like, oh, no, I don't know. I don't know how tight really they were. And all the same, it's the famous I've completely, also like now, I think, yeah, I think definitely, musically I think I was, I had a lot more critical faculties.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And I think tightness was a thing I would absolutely hate in a band. If I saw a band and they were tight, I'd be like, this is awful. They're really practiced so hard, they care so much. They're playing on the beat. It's like, you know, whereas I've been much more interested in a band that were basically falling off the stage, you know, barely, barely. That peacock on drums was peacock.
Starting point is 00:33:06 That piss peacock. He could not, the drumsticks, he killed the bass player. I want another peacock. So it was. Peacock cut, peacock called. Oh man, peacock cut were a tight band, man, back in the day they were a tight band. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:33:21 No, a tight band. To the worst, you're a tight band. Oh, we all, oh's not worth it. I'll see you tight band. Oh, we all are we all my friends And that's the real side of aging oh my right But yeah, I mean like anyway all of this has made me want to have a lovely glass of maybe want to have a lovely glass of scotch. I'm thinking, well I've got a bottle in my cup and actually from when this finished. You know what, that's actually,
Starting point is 00:33:50 you can't do adverts like this for booze, but that is when I want to drink, is when things have been like, when things have been, you've got on top of me, you know. Like, I don't know if you have this, that you think, I really want to drink, and you look at the time and you're like, like, I don't know if you have this, that you think I really, you think I really want to drink and you look at the time and you're like, yeah, it's 9.45 AM, that's not a good time.
Starting point is 00:34:13 That's not a good time, you're having this thought. How early could I feasibly? I've got a bottle of scotch, I've got a bottle. Yeah. I've got some terms, not the musting. It's, especially when Cleo wakes up very early and the day starts at like this morning, she woke up because, oh, fuck me.
Starting point is 00:34:35 The clock's going back. Oh my God. It's a killer. I don't want to turn into lockdown parenting here, but it's a goddamn killer. The clock's going back. She woke up at 3.40 this morning, 3.40 AM, which would have been early
Starting point is 00:34:49 if she woke up at 4.40, but it would have been kind of like, yeah, something she does, but 3.40 was, so I managed to get her back to sleep at 6 AM. It was a long old time. And then I went back to bed for a little bit. I woke up, luckily she was going off with my mum and dad who were looking after her for the day. And my dad picked her up, put her in the car.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And as he came back to the house, he said, oh, by the way, Matthew, there's half a dead rat on your lawn. And then got back in the car and drove off. And I was there just like, you know, hadn't had a shower, hadn't brushed my teeth, it barely slipped. I had to go out with a plastic bag. He's dead rat and lager because I was going to say, you can't do that. Papa's puffed up on the horn for you. That for me was the line up. That is your cutting, to your version of peacocks, isn't it? It's like, oh, I bought this new place
Starting point is 00:35:46 And it came with a load of rack. It came with half a rack. They've sadly Sadly, they've all fought each other. They're surrounded each other And what's the old thing is it was worse than finding a maggot in your apple half a maggot. Yeah What's worse than finding a rat in your lawn? Half a dead rat that you didn't have to get a plastic bag and scoop him up. But then that was really after that. The weird thing about that was, I really wanted a drink, but I couldn't finish my breakfast. You know, like after you've held a dead animal,
Starting point is 00:36:15 even through a bag, it didn't wash my hands like four times. I was like, was your breakfast the other half? So I'd take it talking to your hands. I just put too much garlic on for that time in the morning. LAUGHTER No, I was... Yeah, my hands felt so contaminated.
Starting point is 00:36:35 This isn't... this is low. LAUGHTER That I had... That I had the last bit of toast on the plate. I ate it without using my hands. What was your technique? I just got my face to the plate. And I chewed it until it all went into my mouth. Now this, this would be a good idea.
Starting point is 00:37:02 This is an accomplishment. And then you look at the time, and it's 9.30 and you're about to go on a Zoom, you're about to go on a Zoom call, that's going to last for the rest of the morning. And then you're like, we're on Zoom. No one will notice, but I've got a Scotch in this mark instead a coffee. He's just decanting peacock scotch. He's just laughing at the sofa and logging on to zoom. Peacock scotch, sometimes you just need it. And then it's a bloke in a top hat. Peat.
Starting point is 00:37:39 What is it called? Peat's even off the shorts. Which malt? Peat's even off the shorts. It just like winks to the camera and they're like, as a nose bleed. LAUGHTER And like, the peacock feathers fall off,
Starting point is 00:37:52 and you realise he's, he's celilate feathers to a duck. LAUGHTER That's like, oh god. And he just, he just lowers his face to the glass, and shrinks until it's gone. That's the air. That's the air. Can I have a lift, a living long meeting?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, baby. Oh, baby. Oh, a delicious bowl of main feed. It was a gorgeous bowl of main feed, Lucky. One of the great house meetings. Yeah, it really was. Great sense, a mere tropportunity. Oh yeah. If you, if, if you own a distillery and you're interested in putting out, you know, small batch of peacock whiskey,
Starting point is 00:38:41 let's talk, you know, could be a be a patron You know we could have a new tier on the patron maybe where people I don't know Details once they once the person wants the listener who owns a distillery gets in touch If you at least know Make whiskey and thanks to giving it a crack with us If you at least know, know to make whiskey and thanks for giving it a crack with us, drop us a line. And speaking of dropping us a line, Jack got in touch with us via Pappy Fluxier
Starting point is 00:39:11 at gmail.com. Get in touch. He wrote, greetings Ben, Matthew Emma and all shit to the sea parry. And the names go, what we all do now. Yeah, well that's it, yeah. That's true. I was just in time. I was just saying to my party as, you know, look on it, don't it? I don't have a get everyone in.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Your chat about still twarkers reminded me of something that happened at my unique graduation. Oh, already. I'm looking forward to this message. My best mate was asked to do the valedictorian speech for the arts courses ceremony, brackets music, acting, and dance, etc. There was also a small group of people who were receiving degrees in circus skills. My mate decided to note this in his speech to point out how much. No, you can get it student debt for something like that. What I like about this is, we're talking about people who, you know, he's talking
Starting point is 00:40:21 to musicians, actors and dancers. They're all pretty, you know, like unless you make it, they're all pretty flimsy careers. We should know, we've attempted all of them. But I think as we found out in the still walking episode, it is not fun you get to punch down. When you're in that trade, I think it's such a shallow pool. He was just seizing the opportunity to win when he could. Oh man, so what did he say? So yeah, he decided to note this in his speech. He had to point out how mad it is that he gets shooting dead for something like that. He's safe to say this was not received well.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And now immortalised in a video of the ceremony, we can really live this man being booed on 15 to 20 pissed off, newly educated circus performers. There were actually 21 but the my-marsist couldn't boo him. LAUGHTER Someone walked right up to the front of the stage and threw a bucket of confetti over him. That showed him, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Then he all piled into the same car and drove off. Almost made it worth paying 80 pounds to rent the robes. Cheers everyone by. Thank you Jack. Fantastic message. Well done. If you'd like to get in touch, do get in touch. Papi's flat share at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:41:41 We have another message from Daisy, very, very quickly from Daisy here. Dear Papi's long time, listen to first time caller, exactly what we like to hear. Get in touch, guys. PappiesFracture at gmail.com. Daisy writes, I have listened to this week's house meeting and I wanted to let you know that your food van idea is already a thing. We live in a little village in Essex. Well, I don't care for that, but... In fact, no more message. No. There we go. Fan of person I like in Essex, Daisy.
Starting point is 00:42:07 We live in a little village in Essex and every Tuesday we have a fish and chip fan that visits. It drives around with the bell going to let you know it's there and stops at different places. This is a superb idea. Oh, yeah. Stop at different places throughout the evening for you to go and pick it up. Sometimes we hear the bell and change our dinner plans and then go out to find it the
Starting point is 00:42:24 same way you would an ice cream fan. Just thought you'd like to know that it does happen and it's a brilliant idea, love the show Daisy. Daisy, that makes me sad that we don't have one in Beckham because you hear the little bell. It could be the end of me though, it's the thing. If there was a little, if there was a fish and chip van driving around, I would every time I heard that, people like Marty much lie ahead of the back a bit wouldn't he? all the scrunchies that go fine at window you should be chattering in your go just gradually grinding it to a hole with a big crease involved Three simbolks, long-term money, long-term, for room.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Why is he gone slow motion? I can't look, he's eaten so much fish. He's gone slow motion. I need some of maybe sports wine, maybe sports wine is the one, if you do own a vineyard. Like, tell us in back, to every episode of this, and write down all the varieties and send them to us, that will be really much appreciated. Oh my god, alright, we should end this episode here. Thank you so much everyone for listening. At today's episode, what's produced, as always, by the wonderful Emma Corsham.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Corsham Till. Cheers everyone. Bwaa. Don't take money. Bye! And don't take money!

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