Pappy's Flatshare - Pappy's Flatshare Ep 1628: Can Subway Takes cure your trauma?

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

What’s the secret to good mental health? Has fiction had its day? And the boys make a bid for the next Subway Takes! Pappy's - https://www.instagram.com/pappyscomedy/ https://www.tiktok.com/@pappysflatshare Support us on Patreon - www.patreon.com/pappysflatshare Find tickets to all our live shows here - https://pappyscomedy.com/live Produced by Connor Hayles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Right? It looks like you are. You want us the answer before we've heard what it is. Yeah. Yeah, we have. Yeah, we have heard it. Yeah, yeah. Mark, have you been on a boat recently?

Oh, that's shame. I'm going to ask you. I was speaking to a trauma therapist, but not because of an appointment. It was like a social thing. And this person was like, I'm a trauma therapist. And I was like, oh, here we go. This is interesting.

Yeah. Hear me now, right? Yes. If you witness, this is what she told me. Her son witnessed something traumatic. Yes. Online. a beheading video.

Oh, no. Grimbo. Yeah, really grim. Ever happened to you? No. Never been beheaded. No, I mean, never watched the beheading video. What the fuck?

What's going on here? I can have to have a fucking trauma therapy. So? After this podcast. Can I just ask, how long did the conversation last we knew this trauma therapist before they went and committed trauma to themselves? So, I've never, but like,

it's one of those videos that starts off like it's going to be something and then suddenly bang, you watch something. It's a surprise video. That happened to me. and I was quick with my finger and I managed to masturbate to it. I was...

Right at the end of the... I was... Yeah, I was able to shut it down immediately and I didn't see it. But fuck me, what a scary moment. Mad that they exist. But like a surprise vid. Never happened to me. Because it used to be,

the good old days was you follow the car down the road, it takes a bit longer going past the hill, and you're like, where is it gone? The sounds turned up, be... Yeah, exactly. Everyone can enjoy.

Everyone can enjoy that. And in an innocent time. That was me. Both of my flatmates were asleep. I was watching that. I not only screamed like multiple time. But I threw a cup of tea at the wall. So when they came into my what's going on?

I was like, oh no, I've got done by the most pathetic video all time that I've seen before, but I forgot about. And I threw a cup of tea at the wall. And so there's tea all over the wall and I smashed one of your mugs and it's not my flat. That's a lot. I'm just, I'm just the lodger, basically. I'm the lodger, and I was up late at night watching a scary video and I scared myself so much that I screamed through a tea at the war.

Sorry about that, everybody. So that basically. That was the good, those are the good old days. A funny little jump scare and on you go. Yeah, but now it's like, it's that but bleak. Okay, that's sad. Anyway, so she said, but it's fine, because I'm a trauma therapist, so I knew what to do,

and she said, there's been a lot of study gone into this, and if you witness something traumatic, or sees some traumatic, Within six hours of the event, if you play 20 minutes of Tetris on easy mode, then you won't get PTSD. This person wasn't a trauma therapist. Listen, listen. What?

Listen. And there's a study that's got into it. And she said, I do it now. Spotted by Nintendo. She said I do it all the time. If anything happens, like a family pet passed away and they were like, we play 20 minutes of Tetris and it stops. There's a science behind it.

And it stops your brain causing. Because when you're going to trauma, your brain loops to the event and back again. Yeah. And you build a bridge, a synaptic bridge to the event, which means you stop being able to think about it. This is breaking the bridge.

This breaks the synaptic bridge. It builds a wall. It built a wall to break the bridge. Out of little blocks. The science works. So, genuinely, so that's, so it stops your brain from chemically

creating links to the event, which means that you get stuck in a doom loop. But with, It's like a particular type of distraction because it's like active. Yes. Whatever it's doing, whatever it's doing with your brain,

like you can't just go to fucking Sonic or some shit or like Madden. It's like, this is my first mistake. Tetris. It's been doing Echo the Dolphin all this time. Straight off the battlefield. That was the thing that gave with the drawing.

Yeah, exactly. The alien level. Straight off the battlefield. You just crashed. Give it the Tetris. Yeah, I don't know what happens if you're traumatized by Tetris. Then you're, then you've got a problem.

Yeah. Because when I, I used to play Tetris a lot. Yeah. I would go to sleep at night and I would see Tetris. You know, like the Matrix. I'd see it in front of my eyes when I close my eyes. Yeah.

So you can go too far the other way. Yeah. So on easy mode is what I was told. Yeah, I guess so you're not getting frustrated by it. And you just play Tetris for 20 minutes. And then your brain has not done the thing. Is there something in the sort of slightly Russian song? The do, do, do do do do do do do.

I don't even know if you need the sound on. I don't think it's to do with the sound. Right. I think it's to do with the activity of playing the game. It's like a fucking men in black thing,

isn't it? And did they try and sell you a game boy after this? Yeah, I know, I mean, that's what it sounds like, isn't it?

It seems mad that there's not, because normally it would be like, you know, if someone, if a therapist was going to suggest something to you, to be like,

maybe you could, Tom's just poured water down himself. It's all right, Tom. 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah, go on. But it feels like, Like, if you do any kind of mildly embarrassing, say you go to a party and it doesn't go very well.

Like you end up talking to your trauma therapist. Wait, wait. Does that mean you have to convince everyone else to do play Tetris? Okay. You might just play this Tetris for the game. It's not the men in black device. It doesn't sort of blank their minds. Can you just play this for 20 minutes, please?

I just like the idea of like storming out, you know, having a big argument and you'd hear from the other room. I couldn't I couldn't even too hard in that argument because I've really upset Tom But it feels like what that's insane Yeah that's incredible

What a tool to have What a cheat code for life Yeah exactly If that's her job Is that all she has to do Every time Just the Tetra thing Well no

Because they've got to have come in Within six hours Right Because if they're coming Most people who by the time They get to a trauma therapist They're not going With it for years

I witness somebody I witnessed something awful six hours ago or four hours ago. Yeah. Yeah. But it's good to have you in your locker. Totally. That's to know that that's your... Does trauma have like a kind of...

Does it have like a kind of whatever the opposite of the half life is? Where like if you... If it's 12 hours and you play 40 minutes of Tetris, it's still pretty good. Oh, I see. Is there like... Because... I could have to play two years of it. It's going to say, we're now never going to not be playing Tetris.

The life we've had, we've just be constantly tetrissing. my mom got addicted to Tetris and it caused me trauma it's a complicated bit no she did yeah she just got we did we had we had like a knock off version of Tetris called the brick game and it only you know like we didn't have a game boy so it just played

Tetris and like for about two months we'd come out from school and she just been playing the brick game and in the end she all the lights were off in the house in the end she clocked it and it broke I've told you this before. I think so.

She got so good at it that it broke. Oh, she clocked it as in, I thought you went like, clocked it like smacked it. Against the wall. Crosby's clocked another cup of tea. I can't get rid of the trauma. Trying to put it together and you're like,

oh, this is doing it actually. So it was basically, it was a one and done. Once you've completed the game, you completed the game. And instead of it going like, well done, it just like went, and then the screen broke. And it was, and it was like she beat the game.

And then she was out then, though. Yeah, exactly. And then never went back to it again. Broke the spell. Never picked it up again. It's like, it feels like a Hollywood movie. Because people are getting very addicted to like, you know, social media and stuff like that. But it's because of the, it's because of the endless, of course, because of the endless scroll, isn't it?

You know, like, you know, you can't ever complete it. Oh, I've, I've clocked TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You typed your initials in at the end. But that's, that's, the thing about that addiction is you can get to, you can get to an end of it. Yeah. But by the end, you can't see the blocks, right?

Fair play. Fair play to your mom. Yeah, like, they're just... So what's like, is your guesswork or something? She was just plugged in to, like, the mainframe. It must have been like she felt like she'd taken the limitless pill. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes, there's no dinner tonight. Yes, you're all wearing dirty clothes, but... Yeah. Look at that. I've never clocked a game in my life. No, I've never completely completed a game in my entire life. Have you? Yeah, of course.

I've completed loads. I've completed like four this week, mate. Do you get a sense of, does it give you a sense of satisfaction? Well, I think nowadays, I think computer games from our day and computer games from nowadays are very, very different things. And kind of from our days, they were based a lot of them on arcade machines where they're deliberately very hard and deliberately have quite a small ceiling. So clocking them back in the day.

It's very difficult for a lot of computer games, whereas now a lot of computer games are a story, and so they want you to finish them. So they will take, like, you know, you get computer games like 10 hours long or something like that. Seems like a commitment, isn't it? It is still a big commitment, but that time you go.

You know, it's not like... You get five hours in as well. How many do you walk away from? A lot. I haven't really done four this way. Yeah, I walk away from a bunch. But, uh,

well, did you get like hooked? When was that time you got hooked on a game? I, uh, uh, a few, like at the start of the year,

I played a computer game a lot. Give it a shout out. Uh, uh, Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk. What happened in, what happens in cyberpunk?

Do you have to open a hat shop in Camden? Yeah. You're a guy. You're a guy with platform shoes, but hear me out. They've got springs in them. These goggles aren't going to sell themselves. Cyberpunk.

Yeah, cyberpunk. It's like, kind of blade-ruttery type world. I'm thinking B-Bop and Rocksteady. Is it like, do they look like that? Names to conjure. Do you have a, do you have a, do you have like a mohawk and a leather jacket? A leather waistcoat. Have you got a chain that you can't do that?

You can definitely do that. You can't do that. You can't use a chain as a weapon. You can modify, you can modify yourself. And what's the point? What's the, what's the aim? It's a free roaming. So it's a bit like a, you know, a bit like a, what's it called?

GTA type game where it's like a big city, different storylines. Do you not feel like that's just life? You're living in a big city and the storylines. Quite often those kind of games. I do get. You do get over all. You can't say that.

Yes, it is. But isn't that, that's the point of art is to be like, this is a bit like life. But it's certain elements are really ramped up that you wouldn't want to be like your life in real life. Yeah. I know you live in the bad lands of Exeter.

And it is a lot of biker gangs terrorising the city. He's got his chain. I've not lost. I've not left the house. My wallet, keys, big massive chain. Okay, yeah, ready to leave the. I'm going to go to a blot. You're going to go to put it to.

So it's fine. I was going to, I was, do you ever think about what your subway takes going to be? You got it. I don't. No. You've got to have it in your locker because what if you get on this? I'm not going on the same. That's how it works, right?

Yeah, he's just. to Busker basically. He sits down next to you. You've got to have it ready to go. And it just so happens that he occasionally sits down next to Idris Elba. You've got to have it in your locker, right? Yeah. To my mind, he's sat there waiting and occasionally a famous person gets on and it's like,

oh, we're in business here. 100% disagree. Can I tell you the worst bit on the worst bit on subway takes that I always, I hate it. I feel so sorry for the person who's on subway takes. There will be occasionally when you go, what else you got? And they'll do two takes. You're like,

if you, your take wasn't strong enough to sustain two minutes. Doesn't even get like a hundred percent disagree. It's like it's not enough. 100% don't care. Yeah. Let's go again. I feel like that most,

all the time on these episodes. That's, you modified it from folks. Got to have two or three in my locker. Go on, you know, we'll do, uh,

we'll be like Kareem on, on subway takes. Well, no, I was working up in my brain last night was that I think fiction we need to get rid of fiction

100% disagree but it's a good it's a good one because 100% disagree is a great starting point fiction's got a lot to answer for fiction's part of the problem not part of the cure talk me through that because as human beings we've become

we're now just doing subway tapes how's this happened well no Clark is subway passenger I just caught in between Sorry, this is my stop actually I feel like I'm really a part of this anyway I'm just gonna Let's be honest

Blarky Subway sandwich 100% agree I don't know Anyway I mean it's not funny No no that's fine I mean you need to know why you think fiction Does it Because it's taught people

Come on We've become so good at stories Yes. And we're so... AI has been coming up in storytelling. We're so entrenched in storytelling. And we're so able to tell ourselves that stories,

that we're the good guys or that life's okay. And that everything... There's like a... And we're so entrenched in fiction. In the age of lying, where lying takes on no meaning... Yeah. Do you not...

Fiction has gone too... We don't need fiction anymore. We don't need fiction anymore. We live in a fiction. Well, but also I think fiction's got a lot to answer for, basically. And that if we have, if we get rid of it, then people will start dealing with the realities of the world more. I think.

Everyone, how have we always been? Well, no, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's always being of entertainment, like stories around the fire. Yeah, but the stories around the fire. This is a god. This thing we're scared off. This thunder is a god and that everything is stories. You make sense of what's around you.

But God's real, though. So that's not a fiction. The Bible's not a fiction. Zeus is real. Yeah. That's why we sacrifice. That's why we sacrifice, indeed. That's why Tom's going to throw himself under the train in a second.

100% disagree. Zeus is real. My stuff I take is that you need to sacrifice for Zeus on the first of every month. What else you got? What else you got? Also, why have you bought that goat with you? Yes, I agree. Storytelling has always been a part of the human experience,

but it's become steadily over the years more and more so. And now it's too much. We've got to row back on fiction, man. Do you believe this? It's an interesting one. Do you think the same thing is true of like fiction films and fiction TV shows? All fiction. Fiction's done.

Just fact. Fiction's gone. So you only want reality. TV. Reality TV is fiction. Oh. There's your Subway take.

There's your Subway Take. Imagine that was the several... Produces goat, slit's throat on the central line. Oh my God. By the way, I think we found the new subway takes. Sacrificial lambs. Right?

It's you. Yeah. It's you. You're holding the throat of a lamb. Yeah. You're holding a knife. Mike clipped onto the knife. Mike clipped onto the knife.

If you like their take, you kill the lamb. If you hate the take, you kill them. This episode only, it crops up. It starts off as a very sweet video and knows what it's going to be.

And suddenly you're watching sacrificial lambs. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. And it's sponsored by Tetris. It's a big long advert for Tetris. Play Tetris, everyone. We need to.

We need to. Play Tetris is the new touch grass. for me. Yeah, that's what it is. Listen, go outside play Tetris and then we'll talk about it. Unless it's a sunny day, it's quite hard to see the screen.

So touch grass is a thing, right? Touch grass is a thing. I hadn't heard it before. I heard it for the first time a couple of months ago, used by young people. Yes. You do live in Exeter.

Let's not forget, let's not forget a couple of episodes when you're telling us how Dad Bod is a cool new phrase. No, my point is, it hasn't been replaced. Tom, I. I've got to tell you about Gangnam Style.

And by the way, that nomination with the Ice Bucket Challenge, where is it? You've got to do it. He said, what? I thought he was going to pour a glass of water over himself again. Very traumatic. So, yeah, no, the phrase touch grass. Yes. Would you use it talking?

Yes. Would you go? I would use it, but. But yeah, someone could say, I just need to go outside and touch grass. Yeah. Or yeah. You'd say like, you need to go outside and touch grass. Yeah.

If you've... Go outside and touch grass. Yeah. Yeah. And it means go outside. Fuck yourself. It kind of means get away for the fiction a bit. Oh, I don't mind that.

I think it's on the lines of what you're talking about a bit because it's like someone who's so like got their head in social media or in a thing where they're just kind of like... You're too online. If you're extremely online or if you are too, like, married to your job and your job isn't a farm. then you should go and get yourself out into nature, touch some grass. You need to just like, take yourself away a bit. Okay, okay. Reconnect.

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You've done why we're still using towels many, many times in this podcast. You've got to play the hits, really, with your subway takes, haven't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are yours? Have you not got yours ready? I don't know. I've got to be ready to go, man. If your agent calls and says subway takes for in town.

People need to, like, chill out and they're sneezing. 100% agree. People who practice what you preach, Clarkie. I'm not a big sneeze, have I? Yeah, you're a dramatic sneezer. I don't think I have I? I don't think, by the way, I don't think Karim brings as much of the sort of backstory to it

where he's like, you can fucking talk, mate. It's either 100% degree, 100% disagree. You can't be doing a... Is that always stifle my sneezes? You've got to go outside and snort sneeze into the grass. My subway take... Please, Matthew. Please say something.

I just said sneeze into the grass. You now. Come on. Tom. Moving on. Tom, don't waft it over to my direction.

He'll pick up the slap. He'll sort this out for him. He'll pick up the fucking slack. When I got on subway takes, Crosby, I take him along, two seats down.

He goes, 100% disagree. Tom slits my throats my throats and points to bathe. He'll carry on now. I'll sleep now. go aside and sneeze grass, mate. Here's what I do.

Go on. Oh, yeah. On subway takes. He says, what's your take? Immediately, I get out a step ladder. I get up it.

I say, I'm going to guess you'll job in two minutes. Yes. I career ladder him with, this is what I do. Okay. So immediately he's on, he's on the back foot.

And also, I know his job. He does subway tax. It's a win-win situation for me. What's your take? fire back what's your take man asking me for

this format is done I love it I love it I absolutely adore it yeah it's good it's really good it's really good I would say

this format is done 100% disagree this format's died so much we've started doing his format and then you're saying that his format's bad although I all I watched an interview

with that guy he's amazing but he talked about that someone said what are the bad takes people have brought to the show and he says anytime someone shows up

with like a big PR team you know it's going to be bad and he said that he said we couldn't put this one out but Kamala Harris's one was bacon is a spice and I think about it all the time God I wish I'd vote for it

should have vote come on you've got to do something here about You've got to help us out. Tom, you're still dripping on yourself. Tom. I wish I hadn't voted for her now. Grosby, you yes and that one.

Tom, what's going on over here? Bors. Tom's waterboarding himself. This is traumatic for us. I'm going to have to play about, I'll tell you what. Don't do this, Tom. I'm in the splash zone. 20 minutes of Tetris isn't going to cut it.

Tommy, Tom, are you okay? Oh, dear. Oh, oh. Oh, it's coming in my nose. Yeah. Well, you're quite a dramatic sneezer, aren't you? I wish I had to have it. I wish I had it.

Oh, it's tough stuff, man. You wouldn't last a second on question time. Honestly, well, let me tell you now, I wish I had a hadn't. I wish I had a hadn't voted for him. Wait, did you vote or not? start your own class. You're the reason

exit polls are so unreliable. Well, I wish I had or hadn't. Can I just ask you, you've just been into vote. Well, I had I had a vote for that person? Is that yes or did you? Well, I had had a vote for them either. Well, I had a had a vote for them.

Lord above. If you draw the cross on yourself. It's really got me. Oh, dear. But yeah, this is basically what we should be doing is, you know, sitting on a sofa just chatting away, it's very, you know,

it's very old media, right? Yeah. What you really need is you need to take it out to a new location, you know, we should be on the back of a flatbed truck, you know, we should be in a Portaloo. Something, you know, like, something like that has to be,

you know, you need format these days. Well, format. I still like the idea of as being in someone else's front room. Yes, that's right, because you hate Clarkie's flat. You said, have we discussed at top of a diving board? What?

Top of a diver board and you have to finish by jumping off. Do you know what? I do like it. So we're there for the holes for like 40 minutes and then we just jump off?

Yeah. A different high board every week or the same high board? Same high board. Can I go to Christmas? I don't know where the different eyeballs coming from. And does it affect

what we're talking about? I think the fear of having to jump off a 10-meter diving board might at least. it. Yeah. And also kind of

knowing that you're counting down to it, maybe. And do you just tap out whenever you want to? Because I don't want to be like, I don't want to be like

Power points the bad thing. I'm just left on my own at the end. 30 seconds. Well, I wish I hadn't started that sentence. Everyone's just gone. He's jumped off the wrong side.

Also, acoustically, it's one of the worst places to record is insider, inside a, you know, And it's hard enough getting guests as it is. That's true.

It's hard enough getting people to come to Sydenham. Yeah. By the way, we're going to be wearing trunks. If the idea of sitting with three men in their 40s doesn't appall you already, they're going to be wearing speedos. Yeah. Okay. So what, is that our issue that we've got to get out of this front room?

I think you've got to mix it up. I don't think it's our only issue. No, that's, you've got to have. There's got to be some sort of format that's very clear, very, you know, if someone says, what's your podcast about? You can't be saying, oh, it's the three of us sat around having a chat. It's got to be, boom. You know, you're on a subway.

It's your hottest takes. You're in a chicken shop. You're having a date. You're on a ladder. He's guessing your job. It's got to be that. That's what you've got to have. That kind of clarity of thought is what you need.

Okay. Is what you need, okay? Okay. So, yeah. Obviously, you want somebody else's house. Well, we're in a different, yeah. Is it through the keyhole? is it through the keyholes?

We don't know whose house it is. But we still want to do this, don't we? We still want to be able to just chat. We do want to do it. It's like we break it. The premises, we've broken into someone else's house and we're just sitting on their sofa. Different sofa every week.

Do we have to be like whispering? Not to wake up. It's in the middle of the night. Depends. Like that would be the... So it starts with a crime and then we film ourselves and put it on the internet. Well, no, it's like the premise is we're in different,

someone's house every week. Okay. I'm my heart's like this. No, no, if I like this, chat burglars. Okay. So we break into the house, we have a chat.

And then we go. We try and work. We leave a present. So the guest isn't, I thought that was like the guest. Oh, like McIntyre in the middle of the night kind of thing. Well,

it was more that we sit around and go, who do you think it is? And then they say, ah, it's me. It's Catherine Ryan. We're in Catherine Ryan's house. And you go, yeah. Could it recognise that.

It's on the telly all the time. Pretty see her house more. I see a Clarkie's house. But, you know, it's like that would be it. You would work out whose house it was. And then the last bit would be you sitting down and chatting with the person about that. So it's through the keyhole, but with chat. It's through the keyhole.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like that. Yeah. The chat burglars. And we obviously, we'd dress under stripy tops. What if we, for us, what's more tangible is like, what room in Clarkie's flat are we in this time? Is there a loo? Is it the loo?

It's not a great one and a one. Is it the bedroom? have three rooms. Is there a room you can sit in? Is it the sitting room? And are we in the kitchen? Is it the kitchen? We really,

we really need to be successful and fast. To expand now. Yeah. Do you ever see that guy who is positioned somewhere in the country and if you go and find him, he gives you a watch? Oh no. That sounds good. We could do that.

He just sat on a chair somewhere. Yeah, he sat on a chair. And he sat on a chair. And he, he, He just is just sat there until someone comes up to him and says, love your journey and then he gives them a watch. That's good. The problem is that you hate all the formats.

The thing we're bumping into is that that's a fantastic idea. So the guy who wants to get rid of fiction and we're trying to pitch ideas. He's a watch guy. So it's how he sells his watches. Oh. So if you recognise where he is, he gives you one of his watches that he's made. And is he like in the countryside

Or is he like in urban areas or whatever Just all over? All different, yeah, quite often a park And he starts to stop watch on his iPad And he doesn't say anything And then he just waits Wow, fair play to the man What's what are you watching while he's just got

This dude just sat there Thinking about his watches I guess Is he a good looking dude? No, no, he looks like me He's like an old bald dude Tom, yeah, come back yourself It's an old bald dude. I'm going to ask you the question again.

Is he a good-looking dude? And then he's a yeah, he looks like me. Yeah, he looks like me. 100% agree. But yeah, I feel like we're knocking on the door of a... Obviously, you can't knock on the door of your burglar room, but we're knocking on the door of a new location for this. But you know what?

Right, here. I've got it, right? Okay. Okay, here we go. Here it comes. You're doing it. You do it, your Instagram live, your YouTube live, right? Yeah.

We have mocked up this as like, as like a flat, right? You know, like all of it. So it looks exactly like we're in Clarkies flat, but crucially, we're not. And at the end of it, we're going to knock it down. We're going to knock down the walls and there's going to be the Eiffel Tower behind us or something like that. Okay. Okay. So, but from our conversation, the viewers have to work out where in the world we are.

Okay. Well, why don't we trial that just by holding a... Like, we could do it here. Yeah. And then at the end, we hold up a picture. Just thinking from a practical sense. From a budget sense. Yeah.

But you've got to speculate to accumulate. I'd love to go to France. Is that what this is about? Yeah. We can write it off as a business expense. Le Metro takes. I love it. We've got to do it.

Yeah. Honestly, each week it'll be a different location in Paris. It'll be Gardinerd behind us now. Next week, the Pompadou Centre. Sorry, I wasn't supposed to say that, but we go there anyway. We're at the site where my yellow walkman got stolen when I went to the day trip. Oh, shit, I'm sorry about that. Got beef with Paris.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stolen or lost? I went on a day trip to Paris from school. I've told you about this. It was the worst day trip ever. What happened? We live in Wolverhampton, and they said we're taking the year tens to Paris.

So we had to get on a coach at 5 o'clock in the morning, drive down to Dover, get a ferry, then drive for, what, is it two hours the other side, to get to Paris, then drove on a coach around Paris, and it stopped at four different places, and at La Sacra Kerr, my waterman got something, the coach got broke into, my watermark got nicked, and then we drove home, and we got back at, like, I don't know, 10 o'clock at night. What a shit? School trip. That's bad.

I mean... So shit. I mean... Like fucking 12 hours in the coach. Ugh. I hate that. Is that a format? I think we got the new format.

Yeah. We, no. What about though... Go on. If you're going to do that anyway, what about... This is more like a sort of touristy service. Right.

It's a still coach, right? That you get on. And we do a cinema 360. It feels like you in different locations. Wait, what? Is this the podcast? No, this is no longer a podcast. This is a business idea.

It's a business idea. It's a business idea. Yeah. And you say, I've always wanted to visit. You go on a still coach. Yeah. Stationery coach. Right.

Yeah. Then you... And you say to it, I would like to go... To Paris. To Paris, for example. And then it goes... And then suddenly you've got the locations of Paris around you. but it's AI

AI AI exactly you've got this is bad man is it bad it's bad it's bad

it's bad it's bad it just goes to show they're not easy just come up these formats it is difficult no

should we just carry on this then yeah I think there's a lot to be said for this it's old school

crucially it's a real living room there's not many people there's going on hang on we push

this out the way it's the Taj Mahal we're on a subway. That would be good, yeah. We're on a moving subway. Really, really annoying everybody, because we've brought on these enormous flats

onto a subway. No, I think we're on to a good thing here. Yeah? I think we hold the line. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. We hold our nerve. Any day now, this format's going to take off.

All the other formats have taken off. We just slow and steady wins the race, right? Yeah. We just keep on it. In our 50th year. It's like it's retro, it's old school. It comes back. Like everyone's been around, fanning around,

and it's like, well, these guys never left the sofa. No, I don't think that's a format. I think that's clinical depression. I've got a great kill for that. I love you. Computer games. Nice, there it was. It was nice, wasn't it?

That was nice. It was really, really, really nice. And yeah, if you've got any ideas for formats that we can steal, we would love you to send them to us. Papuaithat at gmail.com. Please do get in touch. Or just stick them in the PO box. In the PO box.

Yes. Although legally, once it enters the PO box, it is our idea. Yes, you should say that. Yeah, that's right. That's right. A legal point of view. Today's episode is produced by producer Connor. Oh, hey!

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