Pardon My Take - 2024 NBA Preview With Ryen Russillo, People Keep Complaining About The Dunk Contest + Lebron's 50/50 Retirement Tour

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

Vacation episode on zoom. We talk dunk contest and how it will never be fixed so stop complaining about it. NBA All Star Weekend. Lebron being 50/50 on wanting a retirement tour. Golf is back (00:00:00-00:23:08). Who's back of the week including shorts and whales plus the waterdogs are playing for some fake championship (00:23:08-00:37:54). Ryen Russillo joins the show in person to talk about the NBA, his month abroad in Germany, where you would want to live in the world and tons more (00:37:54-02:12:39). We finish with lottery ball machine (02:12:39-02:14:16).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Monday, February 19th and PFT. We're on vacation, but people are mad about the dunk contest for the 17th year in a row. People are always going to be mad about the dunk contest. I like the floor. I like the light up floor. They're doing everything they can to like make it look as much like a video game as possible. But there's really, there's really no way to fix the dunk contest. I think they've jumped over the biggest

human they can find. I don't know where you go from jumping over shack. It's it's so funny because every year people get upset about the dunk contest, like they got to fix it. Maybe it's just that we've seen every cool dunk. And there's only so many cool dunks that you can do. I mean mean credit to Jaylen Brown. He did do a very cool dunk where he uses left hand That was the first time I'd ever seen that where a guy was like look the difficulty is extremely hard I'm using my left hand for this dunk, but other than that. I don't really know what you can do

We've seen all the dunks It is what it is the last the last seven years have just been an arms race of jumping over Progressively taller human beings, right and and that's like the guy that wins is who jumps over the big I want to see somebody get absolutely teabagged and like knocked over on one of those attempts. Like I want to see I would see a dunker not be able to make the leap. Yeah, maybe it's just being alley-oop contest and it's like live action. It's actually a game. It's just whoever has the best dunk in the game wins a dunk contest So there's two thoughts that I have on how to fix it one

trampolines Incorporate slam ball into it a little bit with one guy playing defense also on a trampoline To somebody should actually try to light a ball on fire and then don't yes or like themselves on fire Yeah, either way. They also like it. It wouldn't be the worst as they just did progressively higher rims. I'd watch that who can dunk on a 14 foot rim. Yeah, they come to the barstools. HQ Chicago HQ, all business Pete will make it he's the only one who's ever made a rim that's over 10 feet. Or we could we could just lower the rim to like eight feet and we could do our own dunk contest. Yeah. We probably still wouldn't be able to dunk. Yeah. That we should do that though, this week.

So we are still on vacation. How's everyone doing on vacation? Hank, let's start with you. How are you doing on vacation? Yeah, I'm doing great. I miss you guys a lot. It's been a fun week. I personally, not that you asked,

but I think that to win the NBA dunk contest, you should play an NBA, have to play an NBA.. That should be a that should be a pretty simple rule. Okay. So you're saying Mac MacLung should be ineligible because he's not in the G league. Yeah, that is NBA dunk contest. Not the G league dunk contest. Okay. So Jalen Brown should have won with just dunking with his left hand. Well, no, he paid he paid he paid a homage homage to a bunch of past dunkers. Like obviously, like you guys said, it's tough to be original. I thought I thought he did great. Okay. And Matt McClellan is not in the NBA. Okay, so illegal.

He should Matt McClellan should be in the NBA. Like what are the magic doing? Just like let the kid play. Should he though? Yeah, sure. Why not? He's played in four career games. Yeah. Four career NBA games. If you know, like, that's a joke. It's the NBA dunk contest. What, like who like just bring people off the street. If that's what you're going to do. Okay. Yeah, that sounds good too. But also Matt McClung, if you win the dunk contest in your own G League team, you should get like a two-week contract. Yeah. Okay, I'm cool with that.

I mean, the spurs of the wizard should take them. Why not? Yeah. You should have them dunk. I think he might be too good for the wizards. That's the only problem. Like we're trying to accomplish something right now. He threw off the whole dynamic.

All right, so other things from NBA All-Star weekend. We had Steph Beat Sabrina, who she was phenomenal. People got very mad at Kenny the jet. That was fun. We got a good old fashioned witch hunt online, which I, you know, why? Because he said afterwards, Steph beat Sabrina 29 to 26 and Kenny afterwards said, this is why she should have shot from the women's line. But it was kind of stupid because 26 would have gotten her into the finals of the men's competition. I think Dames winning score was 26.

But it was good because it was like a good old fashioned like internet. How could he say that? Let's have a witch hunt for this when it's like this whole thing is a joke. I don't like who actually is watching this on a Saturday night being like this is this has to be taken seriously. Yeah, I watched the highlights. I actually think that we were 100% correct about our prediction for this contest though, which is no matter what happens, people are going to get bad online about something. Yep. That was bound to happen. If she won, if she lost, if if Reggie Miller told Kenny like, what are you going to tell to go play with dolls instead? That was that was a wild comment from Reggie to it. Well, he was Reggie Miller told Kenny like what you're gonna tell to go play with dolls instead that was that was a wild comment from Reggie to

Well, he was Reggie was trying to pump the brakes and then he just went off the road and it was just like I just I feel like we don't do those anymore I feel like the internet has calmed down to a point where it's like everyone gets up Used to be everyone get upset about something and like, you know, get so pissed off, and it would be ridiculous. Now we I feel like people don't get as mad about everything. So it's good to see people, you know, take out their pitchforks for Kenny in a made up contest in a made up NBA night that no one really cares about anymore. Anyway, yeah, I have a prediction. I think that in the next couple of years, we're going to see this contest get run back a little bit. And it's not going to be Sabrina Which last name big cat I NS Q you're Nescu. Yeah, you know that I'm sq. Yeah, I do if I say it phonetically

Yeah, so I think I think in a couple years We'll see Caitlyn Clark against Steph Curry and they're gonna do like logo threes like extra long three pointers and that would be cool Yeah and they're going to do like logo threes, like extra long three pointers, and that would be cool. Yeah. I mean, Serena was awesome. The fact that she had 26, like she should have been in the real three point contest because she would have been in the finals with Dame. And also it's Steph Curry.

He's the best shooter of all time. It's not like you lost by three to Steph Curry. Oh no. That's a pretty good accomplishment. Yeah. That's a statement loss. And the home team won the skills contest again. That is just what happens every time. Yeah, I don't even know what the skills contest is really. They just dribble around. Oh no, they were, I saw they were shooting from half court for a while. Yeah. A lot of confusing things that I don't really follow with the NBA All

Star weekend, but seem, seemed like a good time. Seemed like they had fun. They had a great time. Yeah. The biggest storyline I thought coming out of this just I think it happened today. LeBron gave a press conference. Yes. And they asked him if he's his thoughts on his eventual retirement and how that's going to go.

It says 50 50 about whether or not he wants a retirement tour. He doesn't like praise. He said he's uncomfortable with praise. Mm hmm. So, you know, introvert LeBron James, we need to protect him. He doesn't want everyone saying, Hey, LeBron, you're really, really good. I actually, if you had true serum with LeBron right now, and you were like LeBron, you can either win a fifth title or we're going to do your retirement tour for a year.

I think he might take the retirement tour. He might, he might, I do believe him that he's 50 50 on if he wants it. He's 50% that he wants it and he's 50% that he needs it. Yeah, exactly. Like, and don't get me wrong, he deserves it. Like he has carried the NBA for a very long time. It's not a question of whether he deserves it. Sure. He should get his retirement tour. The fact that he's pretending that he like will be reluctant in any way on this retirement tour is the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard. Yeah, I agree. I think there's

actually a possibility that LeBron just does an extra year in the NBA where he just plays home games. Yeah, I had a lot of travel and just standing ovation. No, but he needs the presence. We need to every every city needs to give him a present. Every team brings the present to him. Yeah, that was like when who was it? Was it Mario or Veru got like a surfboard from the Padres? Like, what the fuck are you going to do with this, dude? They just gave you a surfboard? The coolest gift he got.

I forget what team gave it to him. It was a throne made out of broken baseball bats. That is cool because he had such a good cutter. That's a that's a great gift. Yeah. But yeah, LeBron pretending he doesn't want to retirement towards very funny. Uh, all right, what else is going on in the sports world? I, I

have a confession that I think, even though I was disgusted by the flop in the Ohio State game, I think I'm going to become a Caitlin Clark superfan because she makes people so so angry. And I love it. Like the J Williams saying that she's not the greatest all time because she didn't have a ring, all this stuff. I just, Caitlin Clark gets people very upset. And I'm all for anyone who just agitates the world like she does. And she's, she doesn't do any like she's not doing anything other than being awesome at basketball and breaking records. It's just other people's hot takes then get everyone else upset. So I'm in on Caitlin Clark all the way. Yeah. And it's funny, like everybody out there has a take on Caitlin Clark. Everybody and

they're all shocking. Like I was Jason Whitlock did his live show. I know you're a big fan, Jake. And in his show, he was like, she's a bit, she's the biggest basketball player in the world, men's women's pro college. She is bigger than the sport right now. And it's like, God damn, even Jason Whitlock's bringing fire about women's college basketball right now. It's good for the sport. Jay Williams had a very funny comment when he was talking about her.

And he said like, you know, I kind of got that Kobe mentality. So I'm not going to say that she's great yet. And it made me realize that you can say you can be as big an asshole as you want about anything. As long as you preface it by saying like, you know, I'm kind of like Kobe Bryant in this way. I got that mama mentality. And then you can just, you can just shit on all people's accomplishments. And it's totally fine. It basically gives you a license to be the guy who's like, yeah, what's your weakness? Well, I just tell the truth. No, you're an asshole. But you tell the truth. Yeah, I tell hard truths.

It's also crazy because she plays in Iowa if Caitlyn Clark could have gone and played at Yukon or South Carolina or Tennessee and like won titles She plays at Iowa. She she stayed home and and has gotten them to the championship game a program that doesn't do that So I see yeah, I'm all in it just makes people every day You can just go online and just see a Caitlyn Clark debate and I just I love that for us. I love what she's doing for us. It's good for sports discourse. I'm just I'm just looking at Hank right now in his big swollen red face.

Did you drink wine today, Hank? Your lips are a little red. No. Oh, I don't know. I'm I'm I'm having a great time. Yeah. Yeah, I know. know. I'm having a great time. Yeah. Yeah, I know Okay, what else I like I like I hear every other like third word, but

Is that because of the internet or because of the cocktails? I I miss football I'll say that right now today was a tough day And we're just living off football takes you guys see floreo I miss football. I'll say that right now. Today was a tough day. Um, and we're just living off football takes you guys see, Florio now thinks that there's an eight, the NFL has an age discrimination problem because of Bella check and parts. And Carol. So I'm in for that. I just miss football. It takes a couple of weeks for me to fully acclimate to like life without

football. It was really weird waking up on Sunday morning and having no football at all to look forward to is really strange, very disconcerting. And it just it threw off my week has been off by a day anyways, going back to the free throw stream, where it's like on Thursday, I thought it was Friday, Friday, I thought it was Saturday, that I wake up today, there's no football on it's like, well, today can't be Sunday, possibly, there's no

chance. But we get the combine back in like two weeks, week and a half. And there'll be some good takes. I'm I'm very excited about Cale Williams smoke smoke screen season. Very excited about all the takes that are going to come out of him. Like, did you see he wore a dress like these? All the debate. It wasn't a dress. It wasn't a dress.

It was like it was a new age suit that men wear that. Yeah, that doesn't have pants. That's one big pant hole in it. Yeah. It was it was like a it was like a poncho. He wore a poncho, not a dress, but but if any other team besides the bears gets him, he wore a dress. Oh, 100%. It was a dress. And what the hell is he thinking? Yeah, without a doubt without a doubt we can flip that and no no no problem we can flip that. Um, yeah, I it's it is sad without football. It does like I feel like once we get back in studio on Tuesday, we'll get back to our regular rhythm. But that first week is always like I've caught myself watching highlights of all the miked up from the Super Bowl

Any day any like residual takes from the Super Bowl? I'm looking at and it's like man. I kind of miss this. I don't know. It's just yeah It's hard you lose something like this It's so important to your life and it takes a couple weeks one thing We got to do though is we got to watch the the Patriots dynasty documentary that looks awesome Did that out yet? I thought of that. Does that out yet? Is that out yet? Two episodes are out. Okay.

Yeah, I came out yesterday. Yeah. Have you started Hank? I'm excited to watch. I watched some of it last night. I was pretty pretty wasted. So I can't say I remember much. I will I will watch everything tomorrow though. Whatever whatever's out there.

I'll watch it all tomorrow night. I'm excited. All right. Well, I watch them. Yeah. We'll have to do a review of the documentary. How many parts is it? Yeah.

Hopefully infinity. I think there's two out right now. Imagine infinity. It's still going. The dice is just the infinity parts. It's just they cut up every single game from the dynasty in the little pieces or like you Hank. It's like Judge Judy. It'll be on every night at 5 p.m. for the next 40 years. Yeah. I mean, you guys don't you guys don't want to hear it. And it's like just Patriots, but I'm with my friends from from Massachusetts. We were having a spirited top 10 Patriots debate for like three hours today.

Yeah. There's so many people to pick from it's impossible. Where was Jules? You know. Hank's gone. Hank, where was Hank's gone Hank where was Jules top where where was top five top five top five? I was I was I was I was arguing for jewels my parents like no, I was like you Super MVP three rings like where was Bill Belichick?

Well players we're doing players. Okay. All right. Where was Aaron Hernandez? There we go. Aaron, this was not the last day. Winner ring. Randy Moss. Also, it's crazy to say, but like, I don't know that he's a top 10

patriot of all time. Hmm. Didn't win a ring. Where was, where was Danny Woodhead? He would have also been wondering, unfortunately. What was the one that you were most upset about? Not upset. I was definitely, I was arguing on Jules behalf and it's like you have to factor in both

dynasties defense offense. Yeah. There's a lot of players. I can't hear anything you guys are saying. Defense offense. Jules played, I think like three snaps. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, he did play defense especially.

I was saying when you're going through the list of picking 10 people, you have to think about defense offense, multiple dynasties. Like there's a lot of people to pick from, obviously. Jules did play defense though. All right. Well, I would like you to release your your top 10. Maybe on on, uh, maybe you could give it to us on on Wednesday if you get a consensus top 10. Yeah. Gladly. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. All right. Anything else going on in the sports world

before we do who's back and then we have a extra long interview with Rocillo, which was awesome that we taped Super Bowl week. Anything else? Hideki Matsuyama won on Max's home course. Yeah. And Tiger had diarrhea. Yeah. He also had like some back shit going on.

And then he said he had influenza. I think Tiger might be a little bit over the hill. I think it might have happened. I think it might have happened. I just, I want him to be in these events because it's fun when he's there, but it also is a bummer when he has to withdraw. And we had, we had an ambulance gate where I think our own colleague Dan Rapport was first on it. There was an ambulance parked outside of the Riviera clubhouse waiting for him. Didn't end up

taking him, but everyone was like, Oh my God, is Tiger going to have to go in an ambulance for diarrhea? I think it's just Tiger's car that he drives. So it's got sirens and loud flashing lights and shits that people know get out of the way. Yeah. And there was also, I mean, I thought Matsuyama's ball oscillated. I'm not a rule stickler, but I am rooting for Will's Alatoris That but that bum me out because I feel like old PGA We would have been all over that people are just kind of they all were just showering praise on Matsuyama Not saying hey dude the guys ball oscillated on the seven oscillate It's not so late it oscillate you can't you can't convince me otherwise as as pretty much professional golfer who got a two on 17 at Sawgrass this week

I can tell you that that's a serious rules violation And if we're gonna make Spieth get withdrawn from the tournament over signing incorrect scorecard We need to take a look at the oscillation. I would I would have expected Matsuyama's caddy to be more on top of that Matsuyama's caddy's the best by the way. He's he's awesome He's the dude that bowed in praise of Augusta when they won. And then after the round today, they're waiting for everybody else to finish up because Matsuyama shot like a 62 in the final round. He was just sitting on a hill vaping, just watching the action. Chris Cross applesauce.

Yeah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Yeah, that Jordan's speech rule was the dumbest rule ever because not even his it's his partner filling out the scorecard And he signs it. Yeah, that's stupid You keep track of your your partner score and then you sign off at the end And they've got like cameras and everything tracking these guys around all the leaderboards I guess you can't it not every tournament has every shot televised like that So it might be more difficult which is why there's a guy walking with them

There's a person walking with them. There's a person walking with them. There should be a guy that keeps score for each pairing. Yeah. And if he gets it wrong, executed. Yes. That'd be live. But yes, or just have him do like butts up just like stand 50 yards away and you can fire a driver at him. Oh, yes. Yeah. He has to be a human bullseye at the driving range the next day. Yeah, I like that rule. Yeah. Okay. Let's do who's back the week, then we'll get to Risillo. Who's back the week's brought to you by our friends at game time. You shouldn't have to

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So become your own soulmate, whether you're looking for one or not, visit betterhelp.com slash PMT today to get 10% off your first month. That's better help HELP.com slash PMT. Okay. Hank, who's back of the week? I'm not expecting to get had LeBron went over that we can do shorts shorts are back vacation great time for shorts And us USC USC 300 got announced kind of a letdown I'm not a diehard USC person So I didn't it was like Jamel Hill and someone else I was expecting fireworks I think true fireworks. Um, I think true. Jamel Hills fighting.

Jamel Hills fighting in the UFC 300. It's yes. Jamal Hill, Jamal Hill, McHenry. Yeah. So the, everyone's

Perreara That kind of Jamal Hall. People are going to think I'm, I'm carrying water for Dana right now because he did let us go to the tunnel of chaos. I think that the reason why Arielle Hwani was explaining this. that the reason why Ariel Hwani was explaining this Yeah, and Ariel Hwani was explaining this UFC 300 everyone had worked themselves into this tizzy like it's going to be the greatest card ever

Because connor mcgregor is coming back at some point this year, but he was saying that when you have a title fight Everyone shares if you have multiple title fights on a card, anyone's fighting the title fight shares in the pay-per-view money. So if they put Conor McGregor on UFC 300, everyone would get to share and Conor McGregor's gonna sell a million plus pay-per-views.

So there's no point, why wouldn't you take two dips from this and be like, we'll do UFC 300 and then we'll do Conor McGregor So they kind of he kind of was stuck where it's like they could they could put like six unbelievable title fights But then you have to sell a pay-per-view every single month like they do every single month So he couldn't it was very hard for him to do that, but I think people were pretty disappointed Yeah, just cuz 300 you would expect like it's nice round number I want to see like some big names fighting against each other and and you don't get that yeah

That's why people are upset. It's like if this was 299 or 301 people be like, okay Yeah, good card, I guess but you see 300 and you want I don't know what you you want like a bunch of angry Spartans In a ring against like 40,000 Persians you should now what they should now would actually rock They should have had Zuck in it. I mean, we saw Zuck at 298 looking as awkward as ever. He was part of Volkanoski's party. I don't know what he was doing. But Zuck would be who wouldn't buy that pay-per-view.

Zuck is a piece though. Zuck, Zuck, Zuck would take us down. I hate to say. Is he? Is he though? He did not get choked out. his PR representative was very clear about that. I Think so Hank, I think Zuckerberg if he went against any of us Yes, because he's actually been training at this if he went against any actual UFC fighter They would kick his ass in two seconds

Yeah, obviously, but well, he's not a beast then he's little bit Yeah, yeah, obviously. But well, he's not a piece. Then he's. Little bit. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you get to smoke and he. Yeah, do you take a smash? Give us a smash in the wall. I would just I would give him what Willie I get. I sneak behind him and give him a mega wedgie. They drag his ass to the bathroom and give him a swirly.

Just give him a nerd treatment. I'd just be like, hey, Zuck, remember when you thought Threads was gonna be cool, fucking loser, and you probably cry into a puddle. Yeah. Done. Tapped. Uh, okay, PFT, your who's back of the week.

Good who's back, Hank? Good job, Hank. My who's back of the week is Jesus. Potentially Jesus. Okay. Because there is a stingray in a North Carolina aquarium named Charlotte, and she's pregnant. But the thing is, there's no male stingrays in that tank with her. It's just a bunch of sharks. So either we're going to get a shark stingray

hybrid baby, which would be fucking awesome. That would rock. That's what I'm rooting for, get like the Mor Mori Povich to announce who the dad is. Or it was immaculate conception and this stingray just got herself pregnant, which is kind of hot. Yeah. Oh, that's a I kind of want to see the shark stingray. Yeah, the shark stingray would rock. Yeah. If you're if you're not rooting for for shark stingray, I don't know what to tell you. But yeah, I am I'm on Charlotte watch. I've been checking the social accounts accounts for the Hendersonville aquarium every morning. I need to know I need to know what the due date like it could be any day now like sometime in the next week or two. It popped those things out. She's she's mad pregnant too. You can

see the like bump. Yeah. That's awesome. My who's back is Wales. Half human all these whales. Yeah. Hank, if it's a half a half human, half human. There's one guy that just quits the day that he's like, Oh, fuck. Yeah. Just like shit. Is that stingray got ginger hair? God damn it. I'll stay in the water. My who's back is Wales. I've been seeing a bunch of whales jump Hank should be so jealous they just jump everywhere in Cabo St. Lucas. I was on a boat yesterday. And I think this is also just the captain just knows that like, Hey, I'll get a better tip. He told us one of the whales that we

saw was no more than six hours old. Again, I did the math in my head. I was like, I feel like he's, that whale's probably been there forever. It's just like a small whale, but still Hank, you're missing out on all the whales. They're fucking awesome. Yeah, no, I haven't just, I'm curious. Like, cause obviously I've only seen them online

and I really want to see them in person. Like you have like, it seems like it's ass advertised. Like it seems like Yeah, it's pretty cool. As you can have. Yeah. Although this might have been because I'm very drunk, but we watched. Well, there were so many whales jumping.

We watched it for like an hour. How big of an hour? Hour in, I was like, all right, I think I've seen enough. Like I've seen enough of the whales. I'm good. Yeah. So, so Big Cat Cabo is incredible for that. And I don't know if

your boat had this but so I went there last year after the Super Bowl and they put after we were done watching the whales for a while, they dropped a microphone into the ocean. And you could listen to the whales talking to each other. That's sick. You know what they call it? They call that a podcast. Yeah. Also, there was a seal that was just jumped on the back of a boat and people were saying it looked like Max. That was very unfair. And Max is also back because there was an Auburn fan at Game Day on Saturday that was standing behind the desk that just said Max had two sodas and that made me laugh very, very, very, very hard. So I got on my flight today to

come back and I stopped at a kiosk and I bought two cherry coax just to bring it on the plane. And I sat down I was sitting next to a random woman. And she looked at me and she was like trying to figure out why I had two sodas to so like to to 60 now so does in that moment I realized yeah, this is this is very important behavior a foreign behavior. How disgusting behavior. Max.

Max. How's your 20 ounce soda is minor 12. So how'd your hungover flight go today? Any any ripping of farts? No, I didn't even fall asleep this time because I was in the middle seat. Um, it was fine. I got I'm I can never order soda again at an airport. I got it. I got a body armor before I got I'm I can never order soda again at an airport. I Got it. I got a body armor before I got on and then I had a I got a seltzer water when I was

When I was I'm just be honest When you sat down, did you look around to see if people were like noticing you and scoping you out? No, no. I mean, I got lucky on my the two flights that it was pretty obvious that they I was sitting next to people that did not know the show. But it does. It did.

It does suck like going through the airport because we see people. It's just every time it's the only thing that they're thinking of is is he getting so does the guy. So like every person that I that I like see walking through the airport I'm like yeah I'm not getting sodas today and it's just yeah but they're probably like he still is yeah if you get to if you're a two soda guy you can't just quit soda yeah now I had no soda I had a body armor and then sold so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be the biggest seltzer water guy on a plane ever now because I can't have

Sure on on on Twitter of just me ordering a soda. Yeah Would you would you have for your pre-flight meal max bacon egg and cheese English muffin smart. That's farts That's a fart. What do you want me to eat? What do you want? Air salad? Yeah. The, the AWO who did that at the Auburn Kentucky game, uh, shout out to him and it would be a shame if we just had max had two sodas at every single game for the rest of the year. That was, I still like, don't believe that was real. That I mean, that was real. It's real real Also shout out coach cow who like ripped an awesome wrestling promo after they beat Auburn. There's like I'm the worst coach in the country I like Danny cow to get a little swagger back little little little shit to him

You know because for a long time cow just pushed back against the very notion that he could be an underdog now like embrace that Yeah, you are go after it. All right Jake finishes off My who's back is coach dogs. We had yes official official announcement from EA sports I feel like all the other previous announcements were kind of rumors and piecing things together But the EA sports college account officially tweeted that we're getting at the summer This is like this is like when when Dan Snyder sold the team, there's been like 20 different announcement dates that have come up being like the game's coming back. But none were from the commanders besides the last one.

Yeah, true. True. So this is officially official. And if we're in the trust tree right now, obviously I'm very excited for the new game. I'm worried that new games not going to be as good as the old game. And I'm also like the battles I went through with the chat. I don't know if I'm mentally ready to do that again. So I woke up and I saw it and I was like, awesome. And then the first thing I thought of was poopy stinks. And I was like, I'm back in a fucking torture chamber where these guys are going to say

no sound, sliders, all that stuff and just wreak havoc on my brain. Well, the chat's also gotten better in the last like four years. They've learned, they've adapted and they've grown and they're more powerful than any of us. They've had places to get better, whereas I have not. Like I haven't had a game to play. They have had Jerry After Dark and all this other stuff to get to hone their craft and get angrier and better at what they do. And that's driving the content creators insane.

So I'm just going to have to like, I'm going to mentally have to just put myself in a place like ready to go to war because I will play and I'll play a season and we'll do a whole thing. But yeah, that was exciting. I thought I would have put it at minus 10,000 that Jake would have said the water dogs are back because apparently we want a game today. Well, yeah, I'm saving them for a potential cool throne if they can win the championship series, which is today.

Okay, championship. And if they lose, then it gets like a place. Is it the regular season? Yeah. No, it's a standalone tournament. It's promoting the sixes format, which is what they're going to use in the Olympics in 2028. It's like the preseason tournament, but it's regular season. I don't want to win it. I'll say right now, I don't want to win that. I don't want to win the preseason tournament.

I think if we win the preseason tournament, we're screwed for the regular season. I think I think if we win that, um, max should raise a banner for it, but we shouldn't acknowledge it. Yeah, I don't This isn't like we're not getting a ring Which where are our rings? Do we know we have them? I gave them to you guys at the old office We don't have them then. No, they survived the trip. Do you have my son? You know where they are? I think I saw him I hand delivered them to both of you I think I saw him is I hand delivered them to both of you. That doesn't say, I think I saw him is not definitive. We have him.

It's also funny cause we just got a trophy case and we didn't one time think to put our, our winning lacrosse championship rings in there. The only thing we've actually won. Oh yeah. We did win that. Also we defeated Frank the tank who I guess is a fan of not the water dogs Well, his team is not in this championship series. They didn't qualify Who do we play today the whip snakes archers?

Archers alright our nemesis the archers alright well, so if any water dogs are listening don't even try tomorrow We don't want to win this If we do win it it I'm gonna max is gonna be the only one who acknowledges it fair yeah it's pre preseason the championship is philly versus banner today at 11 30 a.m. ESPN 2 so thanks a philly guy now I guess I want now let's go water dogs yeah max you agree with this yeah I mean that account is just turned into a max meme account where they just Every bad video after after each one. Have they done a two sodas thing? I don't know. I think so. They've done everything. Okay, so if we win and

The account has one of the players celebrate with two sodas. I will then acknowledge the victory one of the players celebrate with two sodas, I will then acknowledge the victory. There's stone. If they do the stone cold, like to absces, they just pour coke on themselves for the entire after party. I'm surprised you haven't said anything about them finishing second for the first time. As well, he said it's only second place. Yeah. No, we said we that's on the table, but I've already said I'm not acknowledging this. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah.

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So for a limited time get half off golf every Monday through Wednesday when you download and book in the app for full details is at topgolf.com forward slash PMT that's topgolf.com forward slash PMT. Okay, here is our 2024 NBA preview with Ryan Rassillo. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, great friend of the program for the February 19th NBA preview. It is Ryan Rassillo. We have some, first of all, thank you, Ryan.

Good to see you guys. We're taping this before the trade deadline. We are, but it's big. Where did LeBron get traded to? I didn't see this coming. Look, I don't think there's gonna be any good trade deadline jokes. I just don't.

I mean, unless you guys are into tax savings. Oh, man, to that, yeah. You do really well on this show when you talk about taxing. You're really selling the NBA well. Yeah. Oh, man. I know, I'm reading those talk about time. You're really selling the NBA well. Yeah. I know. I'm reading those H&R block ads, and I just start tracking up.

And I was like, well, the H&R block is there to help. And they're like, dick. We have some housekeeping, though, we got to do before we talk NBA. OK, because I have something for you guys. OK, well, first order of business, PFT and I actually were completely innocent bystanders to the cover art which you you you Kate you did a whole Bit on your show. You're like I pretty sure they're fucking with me and making me fatter every single time I come on every time

Max knew and our guy Triggs who does a great job. He's our artist new obviously new because he was doing it We had no idea. Yeah, you looked like Dana White on the last one. I love that he did it for like. I wish I looked like Dana White on the last one. When did you, all right, so when did you, so for people who don't know, for the cover art, for the podcast,

Triggs, who is unbelievable, he's been making Ursillo a little bit bigger every single time he's come on. And he's come on like 15 times, so he's now like Mondo or Sillo. When did you catch on that this was happening? Well, so Max, you knew, so what was Nick saying to you? This was all him, this was kind of out of nowhere.

Right, he went rogue. He was just like, I have a really funny idea, and I was like, oh, I love this. I was like, I can't wait to tell the guys. He was like, no, this has to come out was like, I can't wait to tell the guys. He was like, no, like this has to come out organically. He has to realize it on his own. He was like, I just wanted to make him look a little bit fatter each time.

Yeah, it was just a little bit. But then he was like getting into like more absurd things. Cause I went from the Chris Paul fan club T-shirt to then it was like, finally I was 300 and something pounds and it was the Trey Young fan club T-shirt. So I was like, I think something's happening here. I'll be honest with you, the moment I really did know is when I DMed him and said you're making me too jacked,

I was like, make me fatter and fatter and fatter. And then I'll blame them. So actually Nick did it. The last few? All of them, this is actually my idea. Was it really? The whole thing was my idea. Shut up.

Yeah. Shut up. Swear to God, I'll show you the DMs. That's incredible. Nobody knows Nick kept it a secret the entire time. So you reversed God us. Yeah, it's kind of like lost when Henry sitting there. No, I don't believe this. He didn't start doing on his own. Are you lying, Ryan? I'm not. All right, call him right now. I mean, the fact that you said Nick makes me think that this is you're telling the truth. Yeah, I know. As I said it, I was like, I wonder if they'll be mean, the fact that you said Nick makes me think that this is, you're telling the truth. Yeah, I know.

As I said it, I was like, I wonder if they'll be like, hey, he already remembered his name because normally I would just forget it immediately. That's incredible. So you reverse got us. That's pretty good. Yeah. I've been working on this for months, almost a year.

Wait, wait, wait. Just to clarify, you own. Hey, Triggs, Risillo's here right now. He came up with the idea Did he come up with the idea to make him fatter every time Yeah, February 19th NBA preview He's right here he's sitting right next to us he just started he just told the story We told the story being like we didn't know that Triggs was doing this and he's like actually I was the one who was doing it

That's incredible December 22 You know what you can make them whatever you want either really small or just like maybe make them Like a T-rex God's little tiny arms. Yeah So Ryan to clarify your big prank on us was making yourself look really fat and then blaming us Yeah, but then I was gonna blame you at some point. Yeah, that's good was That was the whole point where I was going to be like, who's doing your fucking art? Who is this guy? You know, but you get some socialist in charge of this. That's incredible.

Yeah. So as you guys were doing that, I was like, oh, we never actually talked about it because I I once finally some listener. I was waiting for listeners to figure it out because it was getting absurd. But I was like, you're making me too jacked. Like you're making me, you're doing me too much of a fare. I'm like, just fatten me up, but stages, stages.

So again, this is like 15 months of this I think. And by the time the third one came out, I was like, all right, I think we're there. Kind of like, you know, like jokes, they work in threes. Yeah, I like. Yeah, so he was like, are you sure? And I'm like. Kind of like, you know, like jokes, they work in threes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So he was like, are you sure? And I'm like, yeah, better, keep going, but grosser. And he was like, all right, and I loved it.

And then finally on the third episode it was posted, listeners were like, dude, what is going on with your cover art? And so then I was just going to attack you guys. Oh, that's perfect. That's, you know, but I didn't like it really mad because I didn't want you to get mad at him. It also would have been like you

could have gotten really mad at us and we would have been like we would have just been like great joke by us, I guess. We've done it again. That's why I think you were so normally this would have a hundred percent been something you would have done. Yeah, right. You knew that you had nothing to do with it. You kind of weren't like you didn't know what to do. You're like, all right. There was no victory. I'm gonna show these guys. I'm going to look so fat next time. The payoff really wasn't a payoff.

No. I'm thinking about it. You should have. The only thing you could have done different is have Triggs tell us that he was doing it. So then we felt complicit in making you fatter. Because when you said on your show, I think they're making us fatter.

I was like, OK, cool. Yeah, I don't know that there really was making us fatter. I was like, okay, cool. Yeah, I don't know that there really was, when I did this, I'm like, oh boy, when that day happens. It's kind of a perfect anti-humor show. Yeah, it's not even that funny. The prestige. But now it is.

But that moment with you just calling him and not believing me. Yes, that's great. And then I knew I was like, let me find the DMs. Because I mean, I knew I did it. No, I mean, I respect the fact that you basically, you commandeered our own employee. You work for me now.

I just thought he was making me look way too good. So I was like, let's just go the other way with it. Oh man, that's so good. It's good stuff, Ryan. All right, so then we had the other thing we need to get to. I know, but let's stay on body type real quick. This will be quicker. So downstairs in the casino where I was like,

all right, I'm just gonna walk over for mine. I didn't realize it. We should probably hang out more. We're literally five minutes away from each other. I walked by a guy in black, sneaks, hat on, and I was like, oh, that's gotta be a big cat. And I was like, no way. I was like, that guy's thin.

So it's actually a compliment. You look good. It was me? It was you. Oh. So I walked past you into the main lobby going, that can't be Big Cat. Yes. And it was.

It was. He's doing the reverse of the album cover, the art cover right now. Do you know what's a really, really good, because I know you do diet tips with your listeners and you do like, you know, with your life advice, gym stuff. Yeah, we're always doing stuff. Yeah, all that stuff. A really good tip for all your listeners is

start a 40,000 or get a 40,000 square foot office with a basketball court in full weight room in it. That will get you in shape. I always kid around with people about this, but I'm kind of serious. You could be hot. I think you could be hot at some point. But that is the key to fitness. Just make a bad basketball court in your office and you really can't.

You can't be sedentary when that happens. No, I mean that when I see the clips and I see everything, I'm like, this is, this is incredible. I was looking at Matt holiday setup and I go, should I see the clips and I see everything, I'm like, this is incredible. I was looking at Matt Holiday's setup. And I go, should I just do that? Should I just move to North Dakota and have square footage? You know, a huge warehouse? Are you kidding?

What is his setup? Well, it turned into the number one prospect in baseball is sun. But there's the whole, they've got this entire warehouse where it's literally any activity you could ever want to do. Like how could you not be a great athlete with that at your disposal? And the fact that his dad was like a sick athlete as well

probably helps, but. Yeah, chiseled jaw. Chisel, that kid has a jaw. So you don't want to do the Hank thing right now? Oh yeah, I'll do the Hank thing. I just wanted to do that. Cause it actually, it was mean, but it wasn't. So tell the story real quick, Hank.

He told it on a stand up. It was actually perfect. Rasilo texted me, uh, asking me if I was going out right when Hank's slide showed up that said, what was the exact phrasing of it? Well, just Ryan, Rasilo is the picture of short PFT that's slightly photoshopped. Three inches shorter version of PFT. I still, to this day, think it was it was a bit just based off our interactions. Like I've always been normal.

And it was a life advice in Los Angeles we did at the Super Bowl a couple years ago. God that was a while ago. I think you talked about it in and out going. Your balls were hanging out. In the episode. I covered them up this time. Those were, we were also the first people to be in your house

in like three years. Yeah, no one had been there yet. You guys gave me advice, because I was going to my brother's wedding like the week after or something. You guys gave me advice on the best man's speech. And then in the episode, you talked about cameos and doing stuff like that.

And I prefaced it by being like, I understand you guys get asked to do stuff all the time. I know it's kind of a burden and not, you know, can be annoying. So I try not to do it unless it's, you know, important, obviously, my brother, who was a huge, recilio fan. Huge.

Probably listens to you more than he listens to us. Like, he's been a fan for a while. Well, you know, he's getting older. And after the episode, I was listening to the live episodes, I was like, I texted him. I was like, hey, I really, you know, you talked about the cameo thing. I'd really appreciate it if you could just do a little video, shout out for my brother, he's on his honeymoon.

Like here's some talking points. Still text back. Yep, no problem. Nothing, crickets. And it was like, it was, it was, it was like, no, no problems. I was like, he'll send it and maybe he'll DM it. I don't know, never came. And then I think, the next time I saw you, it was like, remember that video? And you're like, he'll send it and maybe he'll team it. I don't know. Never came. And then I think the next time I saw you was like,

remember that video? And you're like, oh yeah, yeah, I'll send it. I got you. And then it just never came. And so I was like, I think he's doing a bit. Yeah. I can never figure it out. Every time I think about you, I think about the video.

How often do you think about them? Oh, well, more than you think because you guys have a lot of content out there. So anytime a hang thing pops up, I'll be like, was the window that it had to be before that weekend? And then I think you would believe me in knowing that knowing your brother likes me that much. Like I would definitely want to do that for him.

But I think I thought there was this imaginary window where it was closed. And that's kind of what happened, right? Yeah, it was like the next time I saw you it was like maybe a year later. And was like oh and it was still open well you were like you're like I'll do it all you like so I said yeah that'd be funny like it because it was like you think you said the same thing I was like yeah it's still be funny like you know I'm sure it'd be a funny video yeah

got you sounds like the window never closed yeah so the window still not yeah so you kind of actually I think Hank closed it last night actually when he told the story. He might have. We could still do it. It feels like this is coerced now. Yeah, maybe we'll just give it another year. Yeah, I want to come up with something right.

I want to send the right message. I think when you had said it, I was like, okay, I feel like I have to do something funny. And then I was like, maybe I can get like the wrong name to whoever is getting married. And I was like, actually that doesn't always work out because then it'll be like, what's going on? So I screwed it up.

I definitely screwed it up. I never did it intentionally going, ha, the fucking guy thinks I'm gonna do this video because I would never actually do something like that. That's where I was confused. Again, you're immediately responding like, no problem. I was like, great. Usually I'm pretty good when I'm like, no problem.

Come on. It's kind of funny that it was a honeymoon pump up video too. Yeah. like no problem. Usually I'm pretty good when I'm like no problem. It's kind of funny that it was a honeymoon pump up video too. Yeah. Nothing will get you horny like having Ryan tell you like good job buddy. Yeah. See I think that's why and then I was like oh then I kind of was like oh he still wants it so I think that's what it was. So you know what this is a bit like our NBA preview.

Yeah. It should be perfect. I send a pump up honeymoon video and they've been married for two and a half years. Yeah. Yeah. Three years. Maybe it reignites the spark. Yeah. Three years. Second honeymoon. Maybe they're like, this isn't going that well. It also sounded like Hank just needed you to just be like, Hey, Hank's brother, thanks so much for listening. That's it. Right. You do you overthink things sometimes? Do you overthink things sometimes? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I just do it right into the camera. What's his name? Will. All right. All right, here we go.

Do it right now. And so what? Where are they going for their honeymoon? I don't even know where they went. I don't know, I think they went to Mexico. Maybe. You got that? I think they went to Mexico.

Which is my camera? We want the middle one here. Or are we going to? Yeah, punch it in. Punch it in. These are words being held here, like the office. This is great. This is great. This is great too because it's still not gonna come out

for another two weeks. Yeah. Hey Will, heard you're a big fan. It's Ryan Rosillo. I heard you have a honeymoon coming up. Hopefully you're not a bigger fan of me than you are your wife, because that's gonna get awkward.

But I just want you to know, we've all been there in those moments where you're a little nervous. I'm just telling you, think of me, think of my podcast, think of you emailing, I'm about to go for it. What should I do? What would I say? Run that through your head and do a good job making love. That's so romantic. That was great. That was awesome. Thank you. There's a little stumble there at the end. Should we do it again later?

Let's just do it later. I did. Uh, I did also, I don't know if you have called your fans this before, but when I started, I was like, any, any resilience in here tonight and it got a good pop. Yeah, it did get a good pop. Never heard that. What do you call your fans? I didn't know what to call them.

I was like, I was like I was like, I know. I was like, I knew resilience here and people were like, yeah, I'm from Brazil. I thought when Will Kane called his listeners, the Willisha, I was like, no. I like that. Yeah, it just couldn't be top. So I was out.

The Willisha. The Willisha's really good. It is good. It's also people would look at his politics and be like, no shit. No shit. Three percenters. Resilience, something to think about. Yeah. All right. Resilience something something.

Yeah. Something to think about. What are you guys? You guys are what? A. W. L. Yes. We're about resilience. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah.

What was Rome? You just you were in the jungle. You were in the jungle. Yeah. Hey, Rome, thanks for the fun. Yeah. That's what you'd say if he'd let you call in. You get a vine into the jungle. We got lucky though.

A. W. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. though. It was like, wasn't something conscious, but then it worked. And then Dave would always say, like, you got your AOL things. It was like, all right, I don't know. Did that work at all? Yeah, that was great.

You know what? I feel like it's not personal. Don't overthink it. Don't overthink it. I don't know. I mean, he also, yeah, I was too. He saw me talk about it last night. He's like, that was funny.

You know what? Maybe this will get him to listen to our show instead of Ryan's first. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, that could help you guys. Make sure, yeah, that's another listener. Ever since his Kelsey pod popped, I've just been DM'ing Starlets left and right.

Yeah, no, we've been trying to get him. You slide, we're trying to get Hank to fuck Beyonce. Yeah. That's aggressive. Mm-hmm. I'm not gonna say who it was, but I looked at an actress, I was like, I think this is obtainable.

I think this is obtainable. And I kind of went in with like, hey, if you Google me, you'll see a mugshot and it's not a big deal. Here's just what you need to know. It's a good leader, yeah. Life episode, my balls were out. Yeah, but I've got great quads

and I'm still, you know, you're not gonna run into a ton of guys my age that are putting in this kind of effort. Fact. To still, you know, you're not gonna run into a ton of guys my age that are putting in this kind of effort. So you know, you know, house isn't bad. So, and then it was just seen. Melissa McCarthy is married though. That's not funny. She is.

She's very funny. She's awesome. She's my favorite. Sounds like you really like her. I like her content. Yeah. Ryan, we don't talk enough about the fact that you have a good voice.

When we have Dan Patrick on the show, we just talk about how great his voice is. You have an underrated voice for radio, for podcasts. Well, I'm classically trained. Did you work on it? Bass too. No, this is my voice. My dad's got a good voice.

You never had to lose the accent or anything? I never really had it because I was born in Connecticut. Oh, there's no accent there? No, there's no accent. I mean, there's certain words that have a little twinge into England in it. So I'm sitting saying like, got, I'll say like, gut, you know, or something.

But I just always think it's fucking stupid when people give other people like a hard time about like how they'll pronounce certain words. Like I think New England has idea instead of idea. Yeah, that's a good one. That's one. I love when Max talks Philly to us of idea. Yeah, that's a good one. Um, that's one. I love when Max talks Philly to us. Yeah, but like that's a real accent. Now, granted, the Massachusetts one is weird because

there's just different pockets. Like you can have a South Shore kid who sounds like he's not even speaking English. Yeah. And then you'll run into like a Concord Mask guy who sounds like he's from Connecticut. Yeah. So there was no, there was no like working on it, but I was in like the chorus for a bunch of years. So I say- Your voice is great, you're a singer.

Yeah, classically trained. Yeah, I've never heard you sing. You do have a great radio voice. What? I've never heard you sing, you have a singing voice? Well, it's pretty deep, yeah. Can you give us a song? I don't know, we used to,

I was trying to find the sheet music for it, I couldn't find it, like we sang this thing, we went to Germany when I was in high school Like you had to make the choir and then there was like a special select choir Which I know sounds like loser fest But all these guys decided to try out because there was a there was always hurting for guys a youth group for males Young males that gets to yeah, right? Germany got so we I never told the story before on the podcast. No, so

A bunch of the guys like our senior in high school, again it's Martha's Vineyard, so it's a little artsy, a little weird anyway, and they were like, hey, this group's going to Germany. And like if you can make this choir, like we'll all go to Germany together, like at the end of our senior year, when we definitely won't give a shit about anything.

And back then on the Vineyard, they used to let the seniors get out of class, like in the beginning of May, to work earlier in the vineyard, they used to let the seniors get out of class like in the beginning of May to work earlier in the summer to save money when you were going away to college and everything, which I know I don't think they do that. That's a long time ago, obviously. So we all tried out. We all made it.

And I had always been in the chorus before. I actually really liked it. I don't know what it was. I mean, I know it's not like the coolest thing that you could ever say about yourself. But I was super into it. And we were learning really hard stuff. One was, get happy, this old show tune and then there was this other one called Requiem that we sang at a college and then when we flew to Germany,

we got in the Stuttgart and then we stayed in this little village called Heidelberg, or excuse me, not Heidelberg, we visited Heidelberg. We stayed in this village called Wenglingen and we had host families. And so every kid is getting picked up, like partnered up with his other buddy, right? Like, hey, who are you with? Oh, I'm with this guy. Where are you? Oh, we're down the street here, okay?

We're going to, I'm like the last guy and my host family's late. Every Rousseau story has to have tragedy. It's unbelievable. So everybody's getting picked up in like these beavers and fucking penses and like the sickest cars You know because if you're a host family, you're gonna take on somebody for this much time you know you might as well even though we were traveling a lot while we're there and

I get picked up in like a piece of shit Passat and The the woman couldn't have been nicer and she was enormous and then the daughter was fucking enormous. They were like volleyball. Like she would been on the international like volleyball player and the daughter was raised to be like this volleyball player. And I'm like, where am I? Like I needed, I needed to be like near my buddies because they're right in the town and they were like, Hey dude, we're sorry, but like there was no other host

families in the town of England. You're going to be in the Oberboigen. I'm like, where the fuck's Oberboigen? Like it's like 25 minutes that way and they're all giants Yeah, and so I we get all the way out there man, and I'm like in the absolute sticks Outside of like this really cool little village where everybody else was and I was here to be kidding me And I get there and their son was named Yence and he was nine and he's like second Shakespeare Which means throw the javelin.

And he told me he was training to be a javelin guy and we're just throwing a javelin, like not back and forth but kind of. Yeah. Catch with the javelin. And I'm like, God, this, I'm like, this fucking sucks. And so I call my buddy and just to your point, like I'm like, are you serious?

I don't even have a side guy. Right. And I'm solo and I'm an Oibaboygan or whatever throw in a javelin right right I'm throwing a javelin with Jens really nice kid sweetheart of a kid and so I call my other buddies I'm like what are you guys doing they're like dude we're with these grandparents they're so lonely they're like we're already shit faced and now we're going out in town I was like you gotta be kidding me right and especially when you're 17, you're like, you guys are already drunk.

Like, fuck, this is awful. So I'm sitting there and like at dinner with the family and like the girl played. I will always love you from the bodyguard soundtrack on repeat. The son I stayed in his room and he straight up seven year old nine. Nine stereotype. He had the biggest Hasselhoff poster I've ever seen right over the bed and I'm like going I'm doing this for two weeks and these guys are partying in Wenglingen like

you've got to be fucking kidding me and so I'm at the dinner table and then I hear this motorcycle pull up in the in the driveway and I'm like what is this and they're like oh Mark is home and I go okay, what is this? And they're like, oh, Mark is home. And I go, okay, who's Mark? Who was his Mark character? And he walks in leather jacket, tassels, pretty decent size bicycle helmet, like motorcycle helmet, you know,

that would have been not as cool. And he was like, I'm Mark, I'm the oldest son, let's go. And it turned out it was a classic it 180 yeah where I had the best guy and so instead of parents picking me up after every event he was like you go with we ride you hop on the back I did I feel comfortable about it and so I was hanging out with all of his friends and then they were like all the other vignette high school kids like can we come with you now?

Can Mark bring us to the things? And then one of my buddies had a shaved head and he was getting jumped every time we went to these late night clubs and bars. And he was like, what the fuck? And they were like, they think you're a skinhead. And the other Germans are pissed at you. He's like, just tell them I play high school football.

Well, they don't know that. Awesome country, one of the best trips I've ever had. And it was great because you never get hung over. Yeah, good beer. Because you're 17 and the beer is good. That's a very long way to avoid singing a song. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. For the longest time.

I like that story. I got to, you know, I want to try to find the, you know, I promise you I'll do this. When I find the thing I was looking for, this requiem sheet music, because I wanted to see it again, because I remember how hard it was and how into it we were. Like it was tough. We had like practice outside of school. We had no like- You read music? Um, when it was, back then, yeah. I mean, I could, I could figure it out.

You know what he's doing right now. He's just, you're now Hanks, probably. Yeah, yeah, I'll do it, I'll do it soon. I'll get that video to you soon I'm not gonna sing right now got it okay that's fair that's probably well let's let's talk was that story long enough no it was a great story shout out Mark throwing a jab you throwing a javelin with a nine-year-old yes the world we might actually have to do we used to do like little cartoon shorts for some of our stories. We might have to do that for that story. Just a young Ryan Russell. Do.

And here's the thing. We went fucking crazy, like on the second half of the trip. And then they had to do an announcement with all of us. And the problem was all the seniors were like, we were already done. Yeah. Finals. Claps.

You don't own us. I'm already going to school. Like, we're done. We're not coming back to anything. So it was like a really shitty timing for anybody being in charge. But I remember like, we were not coming back to anything. So it was like a really shitty timing for anybody being in charge. But I remember like we were so wild that they were like, had a meeting and they go,

hey, we got host families complaining about people throwing up, fights, like we don't know what's going on with you guys, but like we'll turn this plane around. I'm just like, no you're not, like it's not gonna happen. And they were like, from now on, every one of you has to get picked up by your host parent and leave with them.

And then you're up to them. And then I was like, well, that's awesome because Mark is picking me up every time. Mark, you mean Mark? All right, so. Shut up, Mark. Let's talk some NBA. Yeah, what do you wanna do?

The association. I wanna start with the idea that, are you on the precipice? I know we got a lot of basketball left of having the worst NBA playoffs of all time. If James Harden gets a ring, this is an awesome question. I didn't know we'd start here because the Clippers are good. They're really. They are good. Like it's finally, they've been a joke for the last, what since the, since the bubble and you know, the super team,

but now they're good. You could have been a lot meaner, because you could have just made fun of the Chris Paul era clippers there too. Yeah, no, I didn't. That's not a joke. No, we'll get to Chris Paul. That's all right.

I was wondering, the best thing you guys could do with me would be what would be the hate list of if this guy wins an NBA championship and work its way down, because of all the years of takes. And I don't even know that, like, does it mean I was wrong about Harden for 10 years if he wins it this year? Yes. Yes. No.

Yeah. Yeah. None of this stuff happened. Yeah. If he wins a ring, he can be like, fuck you to all the haters that said I couldn't do this. Oh, I know that's what's going to happen. The only thing that would be, if we get Kyle Lowry on the Clippers, I think that would be the best thing that's ever happened for the discourse of Ryan Racillo.

No, actually, it was in Brooklyn when it was Kyrie and Harden together. But I like to rant so much that I was like, OK, there's a sliver of like, what would I be rooting for rooting against based on like how I think about things. But I like I say this a lot, like just because I think somebody like hasn't won or I don't like that guy or I don't think he could be a winning player, to say he's incapable of any scenario to actually win this whole thing, he's the third option now.

So I'm still in the clear for a decade worth of takes. OK. So it's not his ring if he wins. He'll have a lot to do with it because he's been really good for him now. Yeah. For ever since that beginning thing when they pulled that shit

where they were pretending like Russ was actually going to start and play point card and Harden was going to remember they went 0 for 5. Yeah. And you were like, it would have been really easy to go, ah, this is terrible. Like, look, I just wouldn't want to be in the business of James Harden. I don't think asking for three trades and playing bad on purpose and then getting your way, he did a piece with the athletic

where the first answer he had was like, I wanted to go somewhere I could be paid. Yeah, but you have to admit when he got fat that was funny. It was definitely funny. That was funny. But I don't know, man. I just think there's so somebody can play bad on purpose to get their way. Like what are you going to be like in a really tight spot in the playoffs? That's fair. And there's way more evidence that those two things are connected. So I do think with James Harden, I've said this before, but I think that it's true in his case. I don't think it's like a league wide phenomenon, but with James Harden, I think he looks at

the postseason as doing more work for less money. So he's like, I did my time. I played my season. Right. I don't I don't have any desire to do more work. Yeah, I get to leave at five. Right. Right.

So all right, let me ask this though. Can the Clippers win it all if everyone stays healthy? I know that's always the if, but is this, I always find the regular season, the NBA, I just can't get all the way into it because like I just know that once we get to the playoffs The teams with the best players and you know the the short and the rotations like Sure, it's nice if a team has a great year and they you know win 48 games or 50 games, but it's like they're not going to do anything in the playoffs Obviously the Clippers are a lot better than that, but can they win the title?

Yeah, I do think they can win the title, but it's a really bad health bet. Right. You know, it's the worst health bet of the four teams in the top of the West. Maybe you could argue Phoenix, if you want to go the like, if you're talking, I did, I think nine teams, or I said, if these nine teams won an NBA championship, you wouldn't say, well, how the fuck did that happen? Right. Like, I think there were nine, and even that was being a little generous. And then I had other teams that was kind of like writing off of like, let's mention them because they're good. But I don't really think you'd be sitting there with a trophy at the end of this

whole thing. And I still put Phoenix down as probably the ninth team because, you know, we still haven't seen those guys play together enough with Beal, Durant and Booker at the time of this taping. That's true. We started with the two teams that could be drastically different. No, right. Right. At the time teams that could be drastically different in two weeks. Right, right. At the time of this taping, there are 11 and 5 with those three guys. And it's pretty good. And your bench isn't going to matter as much. And you're going to have more days off. And I think there's the biggest gap I've ever seen

between playoff and regular season basketball. You know, if you don't believe me, like listen to Bob Meyers has done like extensive speeches on this thing at like some conference Where I'm like finally like listen to this guy like it's totally different the stuff that works Yeah in the regular season when people are just not locked in they're not fighting through screens Maybe you get them on some play like in the playoffs. Everybody knows everything you're gonna run through They know like oh this screen to this screen means that this guy's gonna be over here So I'm not even gonna fall for any of this shit anymore because I've already seen it for three games. You figure most guys are prideful enough to stay as locked in as they can as opposed to just you know a lot of regular

season games mailing it in so I think it's a different product entirely and that's why like even though I really like what Minnesota has become I'm not going to trust their offense late playoff series against somebody who I know like I know what Booker's gonna look like I know a Durant's gonna look like it sounds in NFL terms it sounds to me like you're calling them frauds on the number one fraud I know you mean this effort like effort it can well games in February I I think that the best playoff teams have shot clock scores somebody who the ball is in their hands and there's like six seconds left in the shot clock and nothing else has worked. The first two

actions got blown up. It's like a lot of times the ball is gonna have been that guy's hands and he has to figure out a way to still score. And that's why everybody trades all these draft picks and that's why they don't care about Harden's background. They don't care about any stuff because like hey I'm actually getting one of those guys. Right. And that's why we all lose our minds about these guys all the time. So even though I love SGA, history tells you the youth part of this would be an absurd aberration historically for them

to win an NBA title. And I don't like the fact they don't have another big that can match up with, say, a bigger matchup that they could get in the playoffs. Chet, I love Chet. This is a great rookie year. That's asking a lot of him and Jay Williams, too, to be the front line against some of the bigger

front lines you'd face in the West. So it's not fraud at all. It's just it's very hard for me when I've never seen a team show me like in those conference finals moments what you look like offensively for me to just assume it's all going to work out. Right. No, that's I mean you can look at the NBA every single year and say, okay,

this team's having a great year, but once we get to the playoffs. It's always the same thing. You're like, oh, the team that has like the best offensive option, one of those five guys in the league, like they're in it again. And there's always except, but there's not many exceptions in that league.

It's not like football where you're like, how did this happen? Right. And once you get into a seven game series and it's like, okay, well, we can, we know how to game plan you games three, four, five. You don't know how to game plan Kevin Durant. Right. I mean, Durant's just going to pull up at seven foot one and you, you know, you look, you can double team and get a ball out of his hands. We're now bookers on the other side going four on three.

So like Phoenix isn't perfect, but every Phoenix stat is irrelevant because they just haven't had those guys for long enough stretches. You know, I think you can write off Golden State, you can write off the Lakers. You know. Is LeBron stat padding at this point of his career? I think LeBron is the best player I've ever seen.

At the end of the night, you're like, holy shit, he had 27, seven and seven again. There were a lot of sevens in there, but he doesn't do the little things that I think are really important in basketball. That's anymore. No, he doesn't do those things anymore. And maybe he will in the playoffs, but like, look at his track record. If you go back to 2018, uh, his last year with Cleveland, he played 82 games.

Since then, and granted, we had two shortened seasons, what a 70 game season, 72, it depends because some of the teams played like an extra game. But he usually misses like 25 games a year. They have been cranking. He's been playing big minutes. He's played the full season. Anthony Davis has played like a full season to this point.

G'Angelo Russell can't miss a shot, but then you're like, well, wait a minute, why do they stink when Right? It's the same group because basketball, man, is all of these little plays where you're like, hey, did you box out consistently? Oh, you didn't? You fucking lose your guy boxing out of time? You don't get back in transition. You lose guys on these baseline cuts, or you start ball watching when you're off the ball on defense. When you don't do any of those things, it doesn't matter if you're scoring big numbers. So like when you look at, if you would say, Hey, this is what they're

getting out of LeBron, AD's been this healthy. D'Angelo Russell, who, you know, at times I think is unplayable, hasn't missed a shot here for like seven weeks. You know, Rui's still around, Reeves after the slow start, clearly like he was the third most important guy for them in that playoff run last year You'd go oh, they must be like a top four seed. Yeah, and they stink. Yeah, it's those little things Yeah, maybe LeBron off the bench Six man of the year. It's only the word he hasn't won. It's true. That would be I would never want it Yeah, I would get so much respect for LeBron. Like I would I would actually put him above MJ if he got six man of the year. Six man of the year.

When the trade stuff happened for like 48 hours, that was awesome. It was just great. And I remember when I was still at ESPN, there was like a weird story how like Stephen A had said that people close to Jeannie Busse were saying she'd explore trades for him or something like that. That was before they even won the title. And I like joked on my podcast, like what is somebody in a Pilates class going like,

hey, what do you think you could get for him? And then it got back to Steve Day that I had said, like he got this info from a Pilates class. So he thought I was like really dogging his credibility. And I was like, no dude, that's not what I said. We worked it out, it was fine, it's not a big deal. But it was, it was, it reminded me of that where it was like this media blitz of 48 hours

of something that was like, wait, why would they even do that? And the reason I was wondering if it would happen is Jordan guys would be like Jordan Jordan never got traded. Yeah. It's great. You talked about the the Suns, whether 11 and five, with those three playing together right as of taping yes yeah isn't it crazy that they've played more games together than Nets had with their big three wait is it with Harden Harden Kyrie and Kevin Durant on the Nets was it 13 games I think it was 13 or 14 games yeah we get items you see Kyrie say that? Yeah. That was awesome. 13 games? Some fan was like, Kyrie, you never played for the Nests. He's just like, play Merrick Adams.

I know. I know. I've had a lot of people come in and be like, hey, what are you going to do? The Kyrie was right about everything. Ooh. I was like, ooh, that's an interesting segment. What exactly was Kyrie right about?

COVID. The documentary. Flat. Yeah, right? Yeah. I think a lot of the problems that Kyrie write about? COVID, the documentary. Yeah, right? Yeah. I think a lot of the problems that Kyrie got was like, even if I might be on your side on some of the stuff, like, I don't look, I mean, I thought when COVID was first happening,

I was like, how come everybody's an expert on this already? It seems kind of new. Like, might we have questions a little bit later, but then as soon as you say like, maybe I have some questions about how this all went down. It's like, oh, you got Matt Getz posters at home. So, you know, I just think we're a little hard on each other on having an open mind about anything.

But I think the biggest problem with Kyrie was like, you watched three videos and then you decided that's, and so even if we look back at retroactively, we'd be like, hey, he made some good points. It's like, yeah, but we don't like how we got there, which is totally unfair. Yeah, the process. All right. So in the East, Celtics look like the best team. They do. But when the Clippers kicked their ass, I was like, man, I mean,

that was like a really, that was like worth five losses. Yeah. It was now, I don't know if you guys saw the game. Probably not. Cause you're a football guys, football guy, football guy. Never miss a game. You see the ratings, 97 of the top 100 cable shows. I love one guys from but like where's your check out of it. Yeah. No one's arguing. It's not popular. The ratings. They think if you're an NFL reporter you're like I did that. Well that's what it feels like. That's the point. I'm recording about this league made it so exciting that people I'm gonna stand up for football guys for a second. There was a very loud NBA push that was like football's dying.

NBA is gonna be the next big sport. Like everyone's talking about on social media. Oh, Cuban was into that. That did happen. And then like you could talk about it all you want on social media, then you see the range like, oh yeah, football is king and will always be king.

That did happen. You have to admit that. There was a window. There was definitely a window. There was a window. So now we just smash them. I love basketball, but it is funny when anyone's like NBA. Like NBA is the next big sport.

It's like, no, it's not football is. Yeah, I do think that the NBA had like a single elimination championship and played like 17 regular season games. The ratings would probably go up. That's basically what the stars play now anyways. Yeah. Not anymore. Although it's going to be funny. It wouldn't be great if there was one year like the top 10 guys didn't qualify for the MVP. You're like Tobias Harris first time. Let's go. It's awesome. The Cuban thing I love talking about this because I did bring it up,

but I don't know if there's anybody that's more convincing on topics I may disagree with. There's plenty of stuff with Cuban I've agreed with, but there have been times over, you know, it was 20 plus years in the spotlight, you know, just basketball related stuff. I'm like, what is he talking about? But then I get done listening to him explain it,

and I'll be like, am I wrong? Nine years ago, Cuban was like, I'd rather own an NBA team than an NFL team. And he said, pigs get slaughtered. Yep. No, no, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. That's what it was. Right.

If you have a good phrase, like I bought it at the time. Yeah, and then he sold his team. Yeah. I mean, that's one of like the all time calls, which was self, like, you know, it was, there was a lot of self interest in the motivation behind him saying like, Hey, I own one of the 30 assets in the world. I'm not going to tell you it's not going to be better positioned.

But if you were to say to him, no, actually, you'll probably sell your team. And by the way, the call of an NBA team being more valuable than an NFL teams, like not even going to be close. It's going to be worse. Yeah. Or a bigger gap, but I don't know, whatever, man. The Cuban thing though. Yeah.

Isn't it? We, I feel like no one talked about the fact that he sold his team. It was not big enough news. Like he was the NBA guy. NBA is a great asset. NBA keeps going. And then he sold it and it like that. Shouldn't that scare people?

Yeah. Cause when the bucks were sold, you're like, hey, you guys came in and sometimes like the private equity guys and just be like, wait, how much of a return are we gonna get? Like done. Like that's how I've done my job for decades.

That's how I have to do it now, even if you feel like there's some emotional attachment to something like a franchise that's far more, you know, emotional than anything in your portfolio. But I'm with you, big cat. Like, cause then it was also sold to us like, no, but it's still gonna be his team. It's gonna be in charge.

Which made no sense. And it was like, what's that about? Like if I'm buying a team, be like, oh, and by the way, you guys get to make all the cool decisions. And then that kind of got shot down a little bit. Right. So the whole story seemed weird to me cause it really does feel like if there's one guy

who's gonna sell his NBA team, Mark Cuban should be the one that sounds off all the alarms. There's a lot of transition happening right now with teams and you know, whenever anybody like we're all bubble experts after the big short, right? You know, like everybody's just thrown around like, Oh, you think there's a bubble? I'm like, I don't fucking know. Oh, Max. Wow. Wow. Max is watching highlights over there, Max.

I just, somebody's gonna have- Max, turn down your phone. Somebody would have to convince me of like, how, like when is that time coming where a live television audience is no longer that valuable? That's facts. So I don't know when that's happening. I know it's the one last great thing.

For sports, it's always gonna be, yeah. Right, so even if the ratings go down, it's, if to be. Yeah. Right. So even, even if the ratings go down, it's, if it's still the best rated thing, yeah, that's really what we're talking about here. Like whenever you're comparing historical ratings, like, Oh, it's down this, it's down that's down that's okay, what's what are the other live audience shows? What are they doing? Right. So there, I don't know if there's owner transition because this deal is rumored to be shorter than people thought it would be. The new rights deal.

The new rights deal, like, oh, maybe it would be shorter. Why would it be shorter? Oh, because you don't like the back-end term. So it means it was less money. So now it's like, oh, well, we don't like this, so let's just do a shorter deal. I don't know if that influenced him at all, because you would think Cuban wouldn't be somebody who'd be like, hey, this is the best I can do financially, and I have to have the ultimate win. I've got to sell as high as I possibly can.

Like anybody who's ever bought and sold stocks and won or lost money, like you just, you're always going like, oh, but if I'd done this, then, to your point, like I don't think this should happen with a basketball team, especially that guy. That guy, that's the point. So what does that mean? And then I'll hear about like three or four other teams

where, you know, the analogy I've used is like the beach house that your grandfather had, and then the kids use it, and then you guys go with all the cousins, and then it's like out of the next generation, and there's just no way to making it work. Like you wanna keep the house, but there's too many people at it. So it seems to me like the NBA is trying to pull

like kind of a page out of the NFL's playbook, which is you want to ensure more ratings, let's have high scores. Let's have people score a fuckload of points. Are people scoring too many points in the NBA? Well, scoring's never been easier. So it was really weird how when Embiid went for 70 and then Luca went for 73. It was like, oh my god, like, look what Embiid is for 70 and then Luca went for 73, it was like, oh my god, like, look what Embiid's doing. And then it was like, what the hell's wrong with the league? And I think a lot of MAZ fans took it real personal as if it was only about Luca. I can only look at things like nationally, right? I think people only pay attention to bias that

they feel like negatively impacts themselves or their interests. Like, if you were to go to somebody and say like, oh, hey, you know, does so and so hate your team Like if you were to go to somebody and say like, oh, hey, you know, does so and so hate your team? They'd be like, yeah, it's like, well, do they hate your team? Or did you never ever care or notice when all the other teams that you have no interest in were also criticized the same way? Anyway, I thought I had more to do with like, what the hell's going on?

Like Kat had 60, then Booker went crazy and a loss too. It's just never been easier to score. The pace is going faster and faster. Rising tides as the efficiency goes up. Like every year a team sets the record for the most efficient offense in NBA history. We're on like a five year spike. The free throw rates wouldn't tell you that we're in this free throw trouble even though I got a lot of shit. Well actually I didn't get a lot of shit but I had to talk to a few people about it when I kind of just went off at the NBA officials, the union account, when they came back at me to try to tell me I was wrong about something.

I think the foul number isn't the really thing to look at. I think it's defenses are scared to death to even be in compromised positions, because the guy's just fucking run into everybody now. So you let, look at a guy like Harden, he's still getting away with that off-arm grab. He drives into somebody's hip, he brings his arms up, and they also let him invent a new way to travel on threes.

So you can't touch anyone. No. And the landing area and one of the things I bring up, like why are Kawhi Leonard's ankles more valuable than Cam Reddish's? Because Zaza goes under Kawhi, knocks him out of that series years ago, with Spurs and Gold State in the playoffs. So then they're like, hey, we're going to make sure the landing area is clear. Well, look, and fuck any Harden fan that can't accept this.

I want the Clippers to win so bad. Harden, when no one's around him, goes straight up on a jump shot. Like even JJ read it because he got a bunch of calls in this awful fourth quarter against the Clippers at the beginning of February. And you know, I love JJ, but JJ is like, Hey, look, I had a natural motion that kind of moved forward. And it's like, okay, but like put him side by side when no one's around him, like he clearly knows what he's doing. It's like on the national broadcast when LeBron's down for a little bit. And the national broadcast like the 70th time he's seen it, oh little gimpy yeah you're like dude he's probably gonna

get up yeah um he almost died on Christmas what a terrible day it's hard to have I'd hate that so like what do you tell your kids what if you got a majority I mean he'd need Jaylen Brown in the butt and he was down for 20 minutes. I know. Jalen Brown actually left the game. So when I think of that, like with the Zaza Kwai play, and then Cam Reddish landed on Harden, who put his feet underneath the defender, and then they checked to see if it's a flagrant on the defender. And Cam Reddish missed time.

So the problem with any of these adjustments is like you worry about the unintended consequences. Well, the unintended consequence for that one is like, now you can't even get like a clear contest, you have to do these drive by contests, you add all these things up. And I don't want to hear about how, Oh, there's not really that much of a change of the officiating. Oh, there is. Dude, I watch so much of this stuff. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to debate it with you if

you can't see the shit that I see and I think the legal Try to figure out a way to like, you know the way it's explained is Is sometimes the stuff can be like a year ahead of the league before they figure like the rip through they figure that one out They got better with flops and charges and that kind of stuff, but you're just adding it all up I don't think it's because of ratings PFT I think it has everything to do with like we're at a really weird place where the offensive player has never had this many advantages Yeah, they're all awesome players too. Yeah, like ten years ago. There was 20 players. They were shooting over 40% right now. It's 49 players shooting over 40% crazy weird. Yeah, just better players

Yeah with with Harden. He is very very smart So if you if you tweak the rules, he will figure out a way to exploit it every time after he when he retires he should be like that guy in uh was a Frank Abednail and that was it catch me if you can yeah the league should hire him when they think of making a rule being like how would you exploit yeah if you were a player yeah show us the unintended consequences yeah and then he'd be like I want to work for the NFL fuck this place yeah it's king we're gonna get back to Ryan in a second. He's been brought to you by Coors light ice-cool Coors light I love it mountains were blue big time in Jacksonville bluest mountains in America bluest mountains

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But if you actually watch the games, it's like yeah, they're getting more points, but the points are more boring Well, I just don't know what the defense is supposed to do anymore. Right. You know, like, there's even times, like, the play that I tweeted out that, you know, turned into a bunch of people talking about it. And then I just don't understand, like, guys, on Twitter accounts, be like, I've officiated in Juco in high school. That's absolutely a foul.

It's a rick of eyes game. Like, you shouldn't want that to be a foul. Right. Like, and it was like, oh, you know, Steph was in a compromising position. It's like, so now I, like, it's like, both fighting. Like, I'll be sitting, if I were dribbling, and I go, oh my god, that Steph was in a compromising position. It's like, so now I like, it's like bullfighting. Like I'll be sitting, if I were dribbling and I go, oh my God, that guy's turned a little bit.

Now I get to just dribble into your hip. And now it's a foul. Cause you were non legal guarding position. It's any type of contact. I just wish there was, look, in life, I wish we were judged more on intent. You know, there's just so many times where it'll be like, hey, what was happening there?

What was going on there? Like, okay, maybe that's how it could be perceived. But what was the actual intent of the person? Was it, was the intent for the person to be a fucking? Oh no, what was going on there? Like, okay, maybe that's how it could be perceived, but what was the actual intent of the person? Was the intent for the person to be a fucking hat? Oh no, it was just a mistake. And in this case, it's like, was the intent to foul him? Or was the intent of the offensive player to be like, I didn't even want to take a shot,

but I just dribbled into this guy back pedaling and then flung it up at the rim. And there's just too many refs that are falling for this stuff all the time, but then it makes it sound like I'm painting it with this broad brush. The player's individual skill, man, when we grew up, there'd be like the two guys who could score,

a rebounder, a ball handler, there'd be like the white guy that maybe hits 1.73s per game, and we're like, sharp shooter. And now, if you don't have like five scores on the floor, you're almost at a disadvantage. It's crazy. These guys are incredible. The shot making that they can do. So I don't I don't know if it's a boring, not boring thing. I think I just have nights where I get frustrated knowing that

hey, once the playoffs start, like a lot of this stuff is just going to be different. Yeah, the the I think it was Sam Decker who's friend of the program. I think he had- I like Sam. He said something, and you know, Sam was in the NBA for a while, he's now doing great in Europe, but like, he's had something about practice,

and someone asked him, if you were shooting in an open gym with no one on you, how many threes would you make out of 100? And he said like 90. And he's not in the NBA. You know what I mean? That's how insane these guys are shooting. It's everyone can shoot.

Every guy on the team can shoot. Well, I remember when Nash, I don't know if he was the first to do it. It was like the first time maybe I was noticing it is he was dribbling and granted he's at this size disadvantage on any dribble to the rim. And then he started just taking off on the wrong foot. So. So like the defender you're always timing it to be like step step and like okay if he's right handed he's going up off of this foot. He

started going up off the foot before you thought he was and then it was already at the rim and finishing and you're just like oh my god and that's like everybody now. Yeah. Everybody has all this stuff. Now, I want to do a deeper dive on it, but I also think there's so much individual training that the individual ability to get your shot and get a good look or make these absurd shots in these different angles takes away a little bit from like, yeah, but you know what you're supposed to do

when you don't have the ball. Right. But do you know about any of that? Because if you're only working, if you're prioritizing all the individual drills, which are cool and all, there's a lot of positioning stuff that'll happen where you're like, do you know actually what to do once you don't have the ball?

Right. Some of these guys look like they have no interest. Right. All right. So in the East, who can win the title? Boston, but the late game stuff, I think, is really, even though there's not a lot of stats that kind of back it up but I feel like I've seen it enough but when people talk about Boston like being a playoff failure I'm just

like well game six of the finals and then you know granted they shouldn't have lost that Miami team last year but I would take their playoff failures over a lot of these other teams that we talk about all time and they're one through it's ridiculous if person gets as healthy they have probably they're probably still the favorite The bucks thing is weird. I can't figure it out. Yeah, Dr. Rivers difference maker Doc is awesome with stars. I saw it firsthand when I was in Boston I know everybody wants a shit on him for the blown playoff series, but I want shit on for being a snake Mmm. Oh, that's like you put do you put any credence in that?

And the fact that he, he got a young coach fired and he was like, now, now it's me. Now it's docked on. Come on, dude. You really think that I've been told that. I think Giannis never bought in. I think Dame had a bigger issue with Adrian. Really?

And first and then he honest. Yeah, so I can't figure out Dame. Like I knew he sucked on defense, and now it's like, oh my God, he's really bad on defense. But it's like the Bucks, they should have known that going into it, right? It's like. Yeah, but it's back to like the offense stuff

that we talk about, because Dame's like probably one of the 10 best guys that like getting his own thing. But I think they just, and you're like, all right, we'll take the bad defense. They act as a prize that they got rid of one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. And they brought in Dame and they're like, wait, our defense stinks. Let's blame the coach.

Well, they were going to blame Adrian Griffin, who, by the way, is one of my all time favorite NBA players saw the game. Slow pace. Just loved it. Like that guy would he his pickup team would win every single game. And you'd be like, did that guy even score? So I've always been a fan of his. But athletes are brutal, man. As soon as you give them a chance to doubt you,

they're just going to be like, this guy doesn't know what he's doing. And yet they were winning all these games. But they'd have something like once every 10 days where they'd get destroyed by somebody. and you were like, what the fuck? What happened here? So you know, the Yanis factor alone and if Dame got cooking and I don't think you can rule them out, but it's crazy how good the record is and then you look at this stuff

and you know, and then you'll watch them one game and you're like, what is wrong with you guys? But so we're only what, four games in, five games in a dock at this point. So, yeah, no, yeah. So, Bucks two, anyone else? I mean, Embiid obviously being out, that kinda ends that.

That's over. The next story is awesome. I can't fathom them beating all those teams. Well, they go back to the, and I learned this firsthand, Tibs can win a lot of regular season games. There we go. He can. He gets his guy, his guys play hard every night

and Jaylen Brunson is a star. I love him. He's awesome. He's so much fun to watch. But back to your other point, how many guys on that team can get their own shot at the end of the shot clock? Yeah, he can. I don't think Ananobi is necessarily like that guy, but his corner three numbers are always ridiculous. And in the first, what, 16 games with the Knicks, he's even beyond

anything he's been like in Toronto, he was actually getting to the point where he was like, you're 26. And you're kind of like going in the wrong direction on some of these stats. But you know, Randa was her and was I thought horrendous in the playoffs last year in that Miami series in particular And it's a really cool story, but I got to see it I've got to see it play out more over I thought that was a really easy stretch of the schedule. Okay. I did so is there is there a third team in the east? Or is it gonna be just box Celtics? Well, Cleveland scared the death. It scared me to death. Yeah.

And I mean, they won this whole time. Imagine if they had LeBron. Who knows? He might be there next year. I saw some Cleveland fans being like, well, could Adam this year, the trade deadline, he'd be the perfect piece. Yeah.

And by the way, he would have to opt out and sign for nothing to go there. I don't think he's going to do that at the very end of his career. Uh Yeah, I don't think Cleveland. I mean he came back and then they won yeah in that town. Yeah, not exactly like Parade town. No. Yeah. No, that was he did his job He said he was gonna do coming home to go to the Knicks now, right? Like I could see myself playing there Yeah, no that was him. He just puts pressure on the front office He thinks like front offices show up to work and be like, what do you

want to do today? Like, you want to get wings or something? And then the next day they're like, did you see LeBron had a Nix towel on? Yeah. LeBron tweeted an Apple. Yeah. Hey, guess what? Let's start. Let's start getting on the blowers here. Oh, when he tweeted the hourglass. Yeah. People got into work like two hours early that day. Right. And then people ask him about it. He'd be like, What? Yeah. Nothing. I mean, he's gonna be, he'd be a tough summer roommate. Oh yeah. Yeah. For sure. So you even know it's for you just so you know, you left the dirty dishes sink. I cleaned it up. No worries. Yeah. He was just put on like the whiteboard. It'd be like, all of you guys

suck. And then you'd come downstairs and be like, what was that? And be like, it's up to you to figure it out. Like, wait, what's pre, seems pretty like self-explanatory and direct. And you wrote it. Do you want to talk about this? Don't need to. You know.

Yeah. Like, do you want to move out? Didn't say that. Do you think I want to move out? And then you'd have to turn on the TV and be like, wind horses like, do you want to move out? Didn't say that. Do you think I want to move out? And then you'd have to turn on the TV, but like, Wind Horse is like, I don't think LeBron will move out nor wants to move out of the summer house. And you're sitting there going like,

dude, we're sitting right fucking next to you. You could just say it to us. LeBron remains committed to being as good of a romance as he can be. He loves co-asset. It's time to be here. There we-asset. It was time to hear. There we go. I know that's not your hometown.

I do love how he just talked about the Knicks. He's like, yeah, I could play here. I could definitely play here. I also think there's something about LeBron where he plays in a cool environment. He's on the road. And he's like, yeah, you know, I could really see myself winning a title for the Knicks. That'd be incredible. He goes, like, if you go to any city with nice weather that day, you're like, man, I could see myself living here.

That's what LeBron does for every place he goes. You pull some Zillow. Yeah. Let's do a non, yeah, because we have a segment called Rezillow. That's a good one. That's fantastic. Where, where, like I went to New Zealand

and I looked at property. Yeah. And I was like, okay, but it's gonna take, like when you order something on Amazon Prime, it's probably gonna take forever Yeah, you know live with some goats unless you're opening up some sort of coin based thing like Sam there who they had private jets fly Amazon packages from Miami to the Bahamas and then said they only did that to remain competitive for the top employees sweet allegedly so

Give me a place where you guys have been, where you're like, I could do this. Give me the most aggressive place. Okay, I'll give you one from this summer. I went over to Dublin for my friend Donnie's wedding. I was there for about 36 hours. And while I was there, I looked at properties Donnie does. You know Donnie, wanton Don?

Yeah, I love him. I love him. You do love the wanton Don. He's the best. And I looked at properties in Dingle on the west coast of Ireland. And I was like, yeah, you know what? Like $300,000 house on the Dingle Peninsula.

And then there's one road that like goes out there and you're three hours away from an airport. And yeah, I did the same thing you did with New Zealand where it's like, realistically, this won't work, but still, what if? I met with Adam McKay once, big sports fan, super nice to me, moved out to LA. Hey, can we ever meet or whatever, talk and bullshit?

He'd come on the pod. And it was one of those moments where he was like, yeah, I've got this place out in Ireland. He's like, if you ever want it, let me know. And you're kind of going, I actually do want to ask you in a year, can I stay at your place in Ireland? Yeah.

But you almost have to keep the relationship going on a very superficial level I actually do want to ask you in a year, can I stay at your place in Ireland? Yeah. But you almost have to like keep the relationship going at a very superficial level to then feel like it's not a weird ask. Yeah. So I don't know how to do that. I think he says that to a lot of people. I think he definitely planted me never asking me.

Correct, he says that to everyone. I'm just telling people I've got a place in like, in Spain, like an hour outside of Barcelona. I actually do have a place down there, Ryan, if you ever want it? It's yours. Really? As long as you want it.

I went to Barcelona last summer. So you're thinking Ireland, 300,000? I heard you got a new deal. Probably. You see my socks? Yeah, probably not gonna dent it too much. 300K, you might not even be a mortgage guy now. Who knows?

Who knows? With these rates, although they're going down. As of taping. What about you, big cat? knows who knows with these rates other than they're going down as of taping what about you big cat I fantasy some for some reason lame fantasy I've been in the Pacific Northwest a few times and I just something about the trees is the movie fear they're so fucking big I kind of you love big trees I like big trees I could see myself maybe like way northern California, Washington. I

don't know. But then it rains a lot. But I kind of like the rain. Yeah, in Chicago it's like beautiful year round. Yeah, we've had a good we've had a mild winter. Very mild winter. Really? Oh yeah. Hey, if Chicago didn't have the winter, I would I would think about living. Yeah. But no ocean is always it. Anytime I think of a place like Denver Manhattan Beach. Like Lake't been a tie, but the no. Oh, Denver's a good one. Boulder. Yeah, we went to Boulder once in eight mushrooms

and I was like, dude, I want to move here right now. Facts. That happened. That's a good week. We did that. I was literally like, I want to live here. If you wait like 25 years, Chicago's gonna be awesome.

Yeah. All year round. Global warming. You probably don't believe in that. Depends on which charts you look at. Remember when they had the like it was it was the smog thing. It was like the fires from Canada or something. Yeah. And then it like New York City. So all of a sudden, like people were just freaking out and they were like, Oh, no global warming. You're like, I don't know, this just looks like smoke. Yeah. To be honest with you.

And then, Sarud and I talked about it and somebody who hates me signed up life advice for every single climate change newsletter imaginable. Like every time I open up life advice, it's all these different free newsletters on climate change. Like trying to tell me is if I didn't believe in some form of it. But yeah, 25 years from now, I'm going to be too old. I can't be going to like Wrigleyville. Hey, you guys, you guys remember my pod? Yeah, you can. I'm an accelerationist. I want Chicago to be so warm. I go in my backyard.

I burn Styrofoam every day. I bought three cows. I have them farting all the time. I just spray aerosol cans everywhere. I'm just, listen, the hotter it gets, the longer I want to live there. All your machines run on corn. Yeah. Because remember, that was the big thing, but I was going to be all corn. And then they were like, do you guys realize how much worse this actually is? Yeah.

I remember that. That was a big, like, if people were trying to get in, like, long corn. Yeah. Wait, what's your place? New Zealand was was that was that it? I've I've thought about doing like the south of France or something and trying to find a village. I don't want to live in any of the big towns. My new thing is villages. Like when I get to the major city internationally, I want to get the fuck out of there immediately and go to villages. And I find myself, you know, look, if you're in Barcelona, it's great, but I want to go everywhere else.

I don't want to be there. I don't want to be a niece. This is bougie's fuck. What about football, though? Well, that's I could never live any other country because of football. OK, but this is this would be it. It would be like right about now that I would move. And then maybe I'd come back

for the beginning of the playoffs. So I'd live somewhere, I mean look. Oh, it's the NBA playoffs or the? Right, right before the NBA playoffs. So you're looking at basically a good chunk of February, March, April. And then beginning of May, maybe I'd come back. But like live in another country for three or four months

and really try it. I mean, I'm likely not gonna have a family anytime soon. So I probably should just do it now. Like I get really excited about, hey, what if I did this? And the crazy thing about New Zealand from LA, it's 21 hours ahead. So when I was there, it wasn't really that,

I had two Christmases, but it wasn't that weird because it was pretty close to what my normal routine was when I was back home. Is that, was that a divorce parent's joke? No, it's a time. It's a time zone joke. Okay. Does play. Berman told a good one. Yeah, he did. Wait, John two concerts. Wait, so you would you would you would live in another country for four months? I'd love to. That I don't hate that. Like maybe I live in Saudi Arabia for months. So you guys are just doing like the no kids talk right now.

Get that, what are you talking about? Get that live podcasting money. Yeah. I can't believe you didn't hold out. It was live involved with a negotiation. You just dropped Saudi Arabia and you already resigned. So you really thought about it. I was in background discussions with being a live ambassador.

Sometimes I wonder like, could I just move to Tokyo? The discussion was no by the way that's how I ended up yeah. Yeah I figured that was probably the answer so I didn't have a follow-up. Like I'll go hey they love basketball over there so why like I could be a less informed Tokyo woj. Yeah. How would rock? Are you a woj guy or are you Sham's guy? I'm I'm such a woj guy. He's the ultimate. He carries woj's water. Yup. When he when he when he when he ruined that recruit for Rutgers uh commitment. Don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, exactly. But if it's bad,

Woj didn't do it. I did see Shams uh phrasing Shams. Yeah, exactly. But if it's bad, Woj didn't do it. I did see Shams. Raising Shams. Yes, the name is Shams. That's not what I was focused on. OK, I did see Shams. And I think it was maybe a Blackhawks here or something. Oh, no, it was a college basketball game. It was Duke Duke was playing Michigan State the United Center and I said to him, I was like,

dude, when Woj beat you to that, what was the big overnight thing that happened, uh, right before the season started, hardened. I was like, he beat you to harden. Like, are you ever going to sleep again? He's like, no dead serious. He's like, that, that ruined me. Well, he doesn't sleep. Yeah.

He sends all those texts. Yeah. But, but woj's story on that, how he was at the airport and he left and he went home because he thought it was going to break. He's like, I'll just take a flight tomorrow. Commitment. But woj's story on that how he was at the airport and he left and he went home Because he thought it was gonna break. He's like, I'll just take a flight tomorrow commitment I asked woj to come out of the boat when he was in Manhattan Beach And he was like no one because I can't be that far away from the coast and no signal He's dead serious. I go hey, I got Starlink on the boat. Oh Yeah, he came out. It's awesome dude. I anchor off a Malibu, watch Hornets games.

Can't believe I'm not married. That's all. It is great when people are like, touch grass for selling, you show a picture of your boat and I'm like, I know he's watching games on that boat. Yeah, that was, I don't do that a ton, almost never, but I just felt I was a little spicy that day. And he just, you know, everybody like give me a hard time and

like, I get it. Like, I watch too many games, and I'm supposed to have a kid by now, and you know, the shit that really matters, but if you're gonna come after me, when I've got a 46 foot prestige with twins, these are all those, and I'm anchored at that moment off the coast of Malibu

with a sunset in the background, and a CL in the hand, and the Almond brothers planted half time. Yeah. Like you can fuck off. Yeah. How many TVs do you have in the thing? Just one.

We tried to put a second one on but I was worried about it. Just basically having to be replaced because of the salt water in eight months. The guy's like, I can put one on the back of this. You're going to be having me replace it and like, I know there's other ones you can get and everything and I was, but I also thought I was was gonna upgrade to a fly deck like a 51 asmuth So one day I thought I was gonna do it already by now, but I'm not going to yeah I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you only have one TV on your boat. It's brutal actually You know how it is there. There are three TVs on the boat. There's two in the bed like I have two bedrooms

Yeah, but uh, I there's only like one in a viewing area. Oh, so you have three TVs on the boat though. Yeah, yeah, but I thought you meant like in the viewing setting. Yeah, no, right, where you can watch. Boats, a lot of houses have been forced into a bad setup that I've lived in. Like I had like the last house you guys were at,

like the person in the stall was like, I can't believe you're putting a second swinging TV in this gorgeous living room. And I was like, I don't fuck like yeah house. Thank you for your commentary Yeah, this is the way the job is done. Yeah without those two TVs. We're not in this house, right? I have five in my basement. It looks like a sports bar. Can you really watch five basketball games at the same time? I think you can do it with football. I don't think you can do it with basketball. Basketball is tough. Baseball is the best. Baseball is awesome.

You could just, yeah, you could have a million baseball games on. Unless you really want to get in the pause thing with college football, like if I'm like, okay, be super locked in, like a DJ, you know? Yeah, yeah. Speaking of Vegas. Usually though, it's like Peppa Pig in the middle

and then whatever games I want to watch on the sides. How are those guys doing? My kids. Yeah, they're pretty good. Those guys. We still haven't. We still like probably I'd say once a month when I'm putting my son to bed. I put him bed every night, but when I'm putting my son to bed and we're picking out books, he'll grab the LeBron book that you bought him and I'll

just put it back. And I'm like, no, I said a LeBron book that you bought him and I'll just put it back. And I'm like, no. I sent a LeBron book. Yeah, yeah. That's good. We don't read that. That one doesn't get read. I'm very underrated as a caring friend.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I got you a great gift. Yeah, the Chris Paul. By the way. Yeah, it's a crystal hologram of Chris Paul holding Ryan Rassillo, like a baby. Have you not seen it, PFT?

No, I saw it when he got it for you. So I moved again like six months ago. And you know, when you're moving that last thing, you have to be mad at yourself. You have to be in a bad mood to move efficiently. Yeah. You have to like fuck this. I'm never looking at this.

I haven't touched this in three years. This is fucking stupid. I don't need this paperwork from four houses ago. Like who gives a fuck Throw it all away and I was in one of those modes just cleaning out the kitchen And I was just pissed how long it took me to clean out the other house before I moved and then in my hands Like second the first Raiders of the Lost Ark I've got the Chris Paul, me holding him as a baby crystal on the stand with the light behind it. And I'm like, fucking Chuck this. And I didn't.

Oh, thank God. You need it. Chris Paul might win a title. I can't chuck it. Maybe a big three title. Where we have Chris right now. Oh no, is it that bad now? Well he's hurt again, and Golden State isn't any good,

and he's got a few hours to be traded, so I don't really know what the move is, because if Chris Paul, you're trading for Chris Paul, you're a good team, so you're not trading a good player back, but then it's a $30 million salary, it's just really, really complicated to even make it happen. I'm not saying I can't, but I don't know. I don't know what that deal is. I don't back to the Clippers.

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It's Russell Wilson. Yeah. Congrats. Yeah. He was in the conversation. Yeah, we talked about him. Everybody does that every year with this shit We're like he like it's like this huge offensive thing that we haven't spent more time on it when it's like are you voting for him? We're like, well, no, okay, but we should talk about we should talk about what if I did yeah We just like who's coming in fourth. Yeah Uh, and that's kind of how I feel about the Knicks right now. I think they're really good I think they're tough as shit. I I love the fact they have all these guards that play their asses off that defend

You know to your point like a TIBS teams look a certain way when I look at their top nine guys I never go. Why is that guy getting minutes like every guy serves a purpose? Really small guards a Lot of GM's will tell you in the playoffs, that's not really what I want, even though Brunson had a really good series against Miami. I just have a hard time believing that I'd be picking them and to win four out of seven games against Boston. Yeah.

If they're both healthy, I'm not. All right, so you said nine teams that you wouldn't be shocked if they won. Oh yeah, I do. Give us the real four, though. Maybe we go five. It's Clippers, Denver, Boston, Milwaukee, and I would hold out a little hope for Phoenix. Or probably my five. OK. OK, see if you go by age, which, you know, well, Josh, kitty, they're also feisty in the playoffs last year, right? No, it took you a while. It took you a while.

Yeah, it took you a while. Talk about Josh Giddy. Yeah. No. You're talking about France. France has a much lower age of consent law. I'm more into the ocean thing. Okay.

Alright, wait, so international waters? Yeah. All right, so. Forman Terra south of Ibiza. That's your speed. So yeah, the thunder a year away. Yeah, I just also. Which Josh Gita you could say that too. No.

No. No. No. No. No. Well, anyway, so like the youngest teams to win titles, like their average age is like 24 or 20, it doesn't mean it's impossible.

Like the Golden State team that won in 15 was a really young team, really young. Historically, I think like a top 10, one of the top 10 youngest teams. If you take that team and then look at the other nine, like seven or in the 70s, and then ones in in like 1980, and then maybe one's in 1950, or two are in the 50s, and three, so it's been almost like a 40-something year thing

that's happened one time. And the NBA is very consistent that like, to win a title, you do have to go through the wars. You need those scars. It doesn't happen, it just doesn't, you don't see a team just all of a sudden, nope, now they just won a title, you do have to go through the wars. You need those scars. It doesn't happen. It just doesn't. You don't see a team just all of a sudden, oh, now they just won a title.

They have to get in the playoffs, lose heartbreaking playoff losses, and then fight, fight, fight. It happens every single time. Yeah, like even when Boston won it in 08, it almost felt like a little ahead of schedule. Right. And those guys also had been through their own personal wars. Right right Garnett couldn't get out of the first round except for that one year Pierce that had all these disappointments despite, you know, the O2 run was really good

But you need I really believe in that like hit this You can sit there and argue exceptions all you want But history tells you like it's pretty overwhelming that you need to go through some shit before you're going to be successful. And even with that, I don't like, like Sacramento, it's a great story. They're too small. You know, I give you that Pelicans pick. I think every time they play each other because I was like, I've seen him play. I'm like, you've got Harrison Barnes deciding whether or not he's going to play Brandon Ingram or fucking Zion. And then it's Valence Eunice who looks like Subonis' older brother who doesn't like him. You know, he's just so much bigger than him.

So some of those teams that are nice stories, I think you need some kind of big option for whether it's, you know, making Yolk at his life a little bit harder, which is, you know, everybody talks about Minnesota having go-bear in towns, but like, oh, they've got all the size, you got all the size. Like, look at his numbers against Minnesota. You don't look at them and go, oh, wow, they've done this great job. Maybe it's harder in those 38 playoff minutes. Um, and, you know, like, if you told me right now, like, hey, I'm riding with Denver still,

they're the same team. 35 and 16, 35 and 16, offensive numbers, defensive numbers are basically identical. There's no Bruce Brown, but there's a couple younger pieces where you're like, hey, a certain night, a little bit more energy, a little bit more athleticism. So I think they give kind of a good job of at least finding something that's, you know, potentially in play there. And Murray, after that Laker series for him last year, like I didn't have him in that group with everybody else because the point guard position is so deep.

But the shit he did in that Laker series, like that guy went crazy. Yeah. So that would be maybe, you know, hey, can Yoko Chodohp enough defensively? Okay. Check that box. Is Murray really somebody who can carry them offensively? Yeah. And, you know, as I'm talking them out here, they're the better health bet.

But if you had said like, Hey, by the way, when you get Kawhi, like you're going to have a locked in hardening cause he wants a new contract, Paul George is be healthy the whole time and Kawhi is gonna play like Toronto Kawhi Like that's the level he is at right now without having to be used as much because the other guys make it so much easier for him It's gonna be a lot of fun it really is and then I still think Phoenix on Certain nights because I love Booker so much. I just fucking love the way that guy's built. I love the way he's, it almost sounds sensual. He might be a new Chris Paul. He might be.

Yeah. I don't know if I can do that again. It can hurt again. I just don't know if I can do that twice in my lifetime. And Chris knows how I feel, so he's not. That's true. That's true. He's not worried about this.

Okay, so any other big NBA things that we should know or be aware of? I mean the Mavs what what's Lucas awesome, you know, Lucas awesome, but I You know, this is something we've already talked about a little bit, but it is Lucas so awesome It's actually shitty for everybody else. Helio centric. You came up with that word Helio centric. Yeah, the history of the heliocentric you came up with that word heliocentric. Yeah the history of the heliocentric offenses Are really bad in the playoffs. You basically had one NBA finals guy for a top 20 usage rate in NBA history It was Iverson now as soon as I brought it up then Everybody that's into the numbers told me I was a fucking idiot because they found a number that proved that I was dumb

And I wasn't trying to call anybody dumb man I was just trying to share information and make all of us better that I was dumb and I wasn't trying to call anybody dumb man. I was just trying to share information and make all of us better. The counter being that any healer's centric offense only has that because everybody else is so bad and that's actually why. Look, I think basketball, back to some of these first things we talked about, it sucks watching somebody else have the ball all the time. If you're five or you're 35, it fucking sucks. All right. And so when Westbrook would put up those absurd numbers at the highest futures rates we've ever seen that it's ever been tracked when he won MVP in 17, no one's ever had

the ball for a season more than he did. Okay. More than Kobe's ever had the ball. No one had the ball that much. And it took us a little while to be like, wait, what happened there? And then, you know, between all the rebounds that he gets as a guard that nobody else in the league gets, and then all the other ones They gave him to him like yeah It sounds like I just like trying to tell the truth about some of this stuff And by the way his playoff history proves that whatever that was it doesn't fucking work right because for six months You had everybody just watching him the whole time right and then oh wait They shut off your drive in the playoffs because everybody's locked in defensively now. I have to shoot right I have to take bigger shots

Not to say that obviously no one else is not taking a shot the whole season, but when I look at Luca, like here's the list. Jokic gives you the best chance on every possession of anybody in the league. He is a genius. Every single possession you're like probably gonna get a good look. Think about that. Yeah. About having to defend that every night. I think Lucas number two, where it's like, if I needed a bucket, I might pick him over Yolkich because he can put it and drive a little bit better

than Yolkich can. Think SGA's on that list. And that might be where it cuts off a little bit. Kawhi is kind of playing it back in more like certain. Like you got to look at some of these numbers Kawhi is putting up. I'm like, oh my god. But with Luca, you go, all right, so do you just play five out in space at the whole time? So who's stopping anything at the rim?

And they'll have nights where they look like shit on defense. So I don't know what the perfect design is. Really, it comes down to Luca being like, how do you want this to go? And he's probably still a little too young. Yeah. Like when he scored his 73, he was incredible. He could have had even more and forced it, but they had to still win the game. So he was making like the right plays. He had a double team where I was like, he might force this three and he threw out to like an open teammate and he hit the three and it was like a huge three in that game. So he was still

playing like for any shit he got for that game, you could argue like his 73 is more impressive than Embiid's because Popovich just decided fucking never double team and be the whole time until the very end. But I worry about like the Luca part of it where at some point you have to be able to not play on your terms to win. Yeah, you have to kind of go through the wars. Yeah, but you also have to go like, all right, the stats are fucking cool.

You're always going to make you're going to make any possible dollar that's even loud under the CBA. Do you like, can you dial back a little of your shit to be a better team? And he still might be it might be too soon for him to figure that out. Yeah. All right. My last question, Victor Wim and Yama, how much of a bust is he? Hmm.

Good question. Thank you. He's incredible. He's not a not like 5% bust. No, it's not, not even like how many points did him beat score against him? I didn't give a shit. He scored a thousand against him. And when Wimidyama, everything about him this year,

individually for him is a massive success. He's more than what you could have hoped for. And I mean that because of his personality. He, you know, there's something very real about like, you can do all the evaluation, you can talk to people, everybody can be on the same page, people can talk about this kid for three years, right? The guys that were really, really into it.

Like I remember the first time, I don't think I could pronounce his name right, like the first 10 times I tried to even talk about him. And then you're like, okay, what's it gonna look like when he actually is out there? And he's incredibly smart. We know all the physical parts of it. I actually worry that like,

I don't know how anybody can move that well and not sustain two horrific leg injuries at some point. You know, like I'd be shocked if he didn't have that. But the way he carries himself, like through games, the way he talks with a very like earnest thing that's not bullshit, he seems to be wired

to be the face of that place in, you know, like he's going to meet the expectations that are on him. I don't know if he's going to end up being one of the five greatest players of all time. That still, you know, feels kind of ridiculous, but his personality just seems so genuine and that he's been like mentally built to take on the responsibility

that he's going to have to take on for a franchise in a young age. Yeah. So I say, Antonio, perfect spot for him to. Yeah. Part of me was like, fuck them. You know, seriously. It's really like the Duncan thing. Cause I remember being in college going like,

you know, and then my buddy's like, dude, I fucking like John C. Billups though. And you're like, you're like, no, no. I was devastated. I didn't think I went out that weekend, which is saying something in college. But it's probably, except for the time where they were having Sohan play point guard and you're like, this isn't fun. You know, and I love Sohan,

but you're like, when Benyama is like, can I get a guard to get me the ball a little bit? Yeah. He's going to be, he's going to be incredible. And then look, some former player will fire up a podcast and that dope would be like, if he's so good, how come they weren't in the playoffs? Yeah. Yeah. Some, some idiot will say that. Like what's the ex? But you said he's going to meet every expectation. Are we talking like minimum four NBA titles? How many rings? I don't know how many rings you're going to have. I'm going to never do that. Who you talking about? How many rings Ryan? I want to know what my expectation should be. I'll

say what side were you three? Were you on Caitlin Clark side or Cheryl Swoop side go? Caitlin Clark. Figures. Although she did flop. She flopped against Ohio State. She flopped. Yeah, it was bad stuff. And when you say against Ohio State, you're really actually saying against an Ohio State fan. As for Sabrina Younescu podcast. Yeah, I just found out who she is And you pronounce your name last week has a date. Oh, they told me about last week pretty cool

I've known Sabrina for three. You know, I said I I didn't know who she was so now I do I gotta tell you her kicks when they came out. I almost ordered them and was like wait a minute Is that cool? I saw them. I well I think for you, like your genre, yeah. I appreciate it, Ryan. Well, looking like a chick. I think you could do it. All right, my last question, Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. I might start with him.

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Robac question, Ryan, what is a take that I, that we have gone head to head with, that I've been wrong and you've been right? Conference realignment. Okay. Cause I was right about Jared Goff and Cliff Kingsbury. No, I'm not giving you the Cliff one. Yeah, Jared's still out on Cliff.

I'd say the Jared Goff one with you and I is maybe the most contentious it ever got. Yeah, because he's a friend. Because you dropped that in the tech start. I know I did. Which I don't think I was like, hey, buddy, back off. He's a friend. Right.

And then he got traded after he'd been in the Super Bowl. So I definitely felt like. But then. I feel like this is a tie. No. No. He took the Lions the NFC Championship game. He's a quiet leader. So I never had any win when I was like, I don't think my point was I don't think golf's the guy. And then I didn't get any, there was no point scored still when he traded from a team he was in the Super Bowl. They would have had to drive if the Lions had drafted someone last year in his place, then you would have won. Let me ask you this. What's more impressive winning a Super Bowl with the Rams

or getting the Detroit Lions to the championship game? No, also, you might be right about to. I am. I'll throw that in there. I'm very good. Excuse me. I'm very happy for you and your good friend Jared golf. Yeah cuz he's good friend, too He when he was talking about like how much it hurt him to be traded and everything

I was like man good for him and by the way apparently very good friend with Teddy Purcell Kings manhattan Beach legend. Oh, so if he likes Teddy then it must mean golf is like the greatest dude ever All right, there we go anybody who comes to is like, can you call that Teddy guy? Is that the guy who stole my money on the squares? Super Bowl squares? No, that was Diamond Dave. Okay. If you give money to Diamond Dave, that's on you.

Well, I like if you, if you, there's a two week window where if you say you want to do these Super Bowl squares, I'm like, yes, and I never follow up. My barber in Brooklyn took $500 for me every single year, no matter what, I never saw a number. My favorite when you did that. Never, never knew what my numbers were. When you did it with Diamond Dave, it was within seconds,

Ernie understood it was a terrible transaction. Yes. Because you were like, it was like really late, it was really late. Really late. You were super well behaved for the record And but it's really late and it was a core group of us and it was like yeah, I guess I'll buy some squares It was like how's this all gonna work and Dave's like, I don't know

Just talking to a silhouette about her or something and we're like you may as well just lit that money But I had to do it you have to do it and then I never know. I also Venmoed big cat a hundred bucks. I was like, I'll cover half of it as like an insurance policy, like a hundred dollar deductible you're out, but I'll give you back a hundred. Cause it was like, I was like, yeah, do it. Like I'm on it.

We'll figure it out. And it was, it was immediately, there was no record of it. No. It's a good scam. So that's a different guy. No, when guys come to Manhattan Beach, they'll be like, can you call that today?

I'm like, do you not want to hang out with me? Do you want me to put you two guys on a thread? So apparently he's very close to the golf. So it made me, all right, I'll give that one to you. But I was, that's a 20, that's a three one down three one. Yeah, I came. I was a big right. That was a twig three Falcons.

Pat. Yeah, that was a big comeback. But conference realignment. We actually called you out the other day on the pod Oh, really? Yeah, you have a Very mediocre approval rating. Well, I almost I almost broke up your podcast You only like Almost broke up your podcast by DMing me saying hey, can I hang out with her? So yeah, but he's a salt of the earth guy up your podcast by DMing me saying, Hey, can I hang out with Lucilla? Yeah, but he's assault of the earth guy. He's assault like we've hung out. Hey, you are all the skydiver poor on you

is very simple. Top line. All about content. Don't DM me. Right. Ask me to hang out with the guy you work with every day. Content first, friendship second. Well, I mean, what if Hank DM'd you saying, Hey, do you think that I could hang out with big cat? I would expect you to bring it up. Yeah. I'd be like, let me make a video. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a good callback, right? But wait, what was, what was it? I think it's over now. What were you saying? What were you saying there? I just think you, you try to tell me like conference realignment, because the fucking,

cause Arkansas at one point left. No, my point has been very clear about I mean, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Rock Arizona versus Kansas every year twice a year. Yes Yeah, I don't care about that. Yeah, so I Used to care once the big East got destroyed in the way it got destroyed and it not being the same thing I just was never going to be a

Fan, but I felt like because Wisconsin still can play all those teams in that division Which I mean you should hate it because now you'll actually have to play teams in your division. Oh, I'm very aware. Yeah. Our schedule is brutal. It'll be funny when it's like five SEC schools and six big ten schools. Yeah. And then yeah, see that floor the state. I I would rather it not happen. I'm gonna still watch every Saturday. I'm still gonna watch but I don't know why you would think it's cool now that Ohio State, Michigan Like I'll watch it and if it's a good game. I'll enjoy I'll enjoy the playoff games, but Ohio State, Michigan the loser

It's like okay cool. See in a couple weeks. Why is that good? And by the way probably sucks. I don't like that. There's this many NFL teams in the playoffs. I think it's Oh, yeah, you hate the I'm I big on, I know it's gonna shock you. I like leaving people out of things. Mm. Yeah, you hate the expanded playoffs. I hate expanded anything. Yeah, the play in, I mean, I don't like that.

I don't like the four, the playing games for the NCAA tournament. I especially don't like it when it's somebody that wins their conference that has to then play in the play in tournament. Not the NBA. I'm talking about like, I don't like the NBA plan. I don't like the NBA plan just because as a fan of a team that has an owner who literally will just stand and be like, Hey, we made the play in tournament. Right. And be like, isn't that good guys? I hate it's a cop out. It's like the bowl guy. Be like, Hey, played in bowl games four to five years. Yeah. Right. Are you you talking right? It's a cop out for owners now to be like we kind of made the playoffs

I'm thinking about joining a country club and if they go hey, no, I'm like I respect that I'm not even disappointed. Yeah, I like I like how you guys operate What's that the old quote like I would never want to join a club that would accept me as a member Yeah, the other great one is from Lords of the Realm, great book on baseball finance. If you want to dig into that. Yeah, sounds great. Yeah, Marvin Miller, read about it. And the guy goes, what's the point of being rich if nobody knows? I looked at Ferraris today, so I'm going with that. Did you really?

Well, yeah, the guy was hazing me. I did. I, uh, every time I see one, I'm like, fucking A. Jake, I would like the blog from this interview to be, Ron Recilo owns a boat with a TV and is currently shopping for Ferraris. All right, do it, I approve. Why would you join a country club? You don't play golf.

Oh, I have been golfing. I even took lessons the other day. I gotta get the hands inside. You're letting another man teach you how to swing a golf club? Well, apparently I'm not able to figure out on my own. I just swing as hard as I possibly can because the guy was like, yeah, I know, I'm shocking you.

The guy's your club speed's like PGA level. How about that? I'm sure they did. But, but if you pay me $500, I can fix this for you. Right, right. You're just gonna get my hands inside and then I gotta throw it out. He was like, remember that tiger drill? I'm like, I do remember that tiger. He's

like, we're going to work on it for a while. I love my, I love the guy that I took a lesson with. He was great. Fucking New York guy, Long Island, I think. Terrific. Shout out to Matt. Shout out Matt. He's looking to get maybe an audio gig. So okay. Yeah. Maybe for you as a resume. Yeah, we'll take him. He looks at me that way where I'll be like he just goes like don't you work somewhere? Yeah, no there was a guy I can't tell it was a little captain Phillips ish She was driving the taxi and he was listening to this just absolute like I thought I was in a torture chamber of The audio and I don't know what what language it was. I think I even sent it to you. Yeah, I was doing radio. It was

brutal. It was 30 straight minutes of this. Hold on. Let's see. Okay. 30 minutes straight. I was like gonna throw up. I was like just drop me off. He's like what number is it? I was like, I don't fucking care. Let me out of the car. It's probably listening like sports talk radio But then it's own language they were doing give us the nine clubs that you think can still win a title and There was a friar dealership right when I demanded to get out and I was like, this feels like a sign. And then I went in there and was like, holy shit. Like these things are pretty sick.

And then I sat in one. It was great too, the guy was like, so this would be your first Ferrari, sir. I was like, you're good. You're very good. He's like, how are you getting back to Los Angeles? Have you canceled your flight yet? I don't think I'll do it.

All right, well, Ryan, to go full circle, Trigg sent me your cover art and it's a Rassillo machinist. Oh, yes. Christian Bales are my favorite actors. As skinny as possible. Empire of the Sun. Do you guys ever see that one, Bales a Kid? Yeah. I did not see that one

No, it's great movie. I just say yeah to every movie. That is I read I actually read the book Ryan sure The dick pic from Ryan Whitney We share Yeah, so Ryan. Thank you. Always. Thank you guys. Thanks. We can't wait to talk NBA playoffs when we get to that spot in June in June But this was your NBA preview. I think we hit it all. I think we did. I mean, I never really want to talk NBA with you guys I think it was good. It's perfect. It's perfect Okay, we're gonna kick it to ourselves in a second for the lottery ball wrapping up

Thank you everyone for dealing with the zoom episode. I, I feel refreshed for my vacation. I felt like there was no better time to take a vacation than after that 41 free throw thing. Because I don't know about you guys, but I slept pretty much all day Wednesday. Uh, and, and like felt normal again on Thursday, but it was good vacation. You guys feel good vacation. You guys feel good, rested? I feel great, I feel great.

I went home, I didn't shoot any free throws, but I rebounded a little bit, so I was a little sore. My hands were sore, so I heavily moisturized my hands. There was some great lotion on Tuesday. Slept for about eight hours during the day, woke up, had dinner, back to sleep for another eight hours after that.

It was fantastic. Yeah, so we'll be back in studio on Tuesday I think we're gonna have our good friend Paul Bisonette on for Wednesday's show talk some hockey we're post football world but we do have the combine coming up and again thank you to everyone dealing with us doing a zoom show for our vacation let's kick it to ourselves in lottery ball. All right, numbers. 18. We'll be back in studio together on Wednesday. 8. 20. 7. 7. If it goes back to back. 55. This might be dumb. You feel like you got it? You feel like you got it?

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