Pardon My Take - 2X SB Champ Ike Taylor + S8E2 Game Of Thrones Recap

Episode Date: April 22, 2019

NBA Playoffs, Jared Dudley tried to fight the Sixers, the Magic are dead, and Embiid is a monster (2:28 - 14:30). The Caps look poised to go to the second round (14:30 - 17:33). NFL Draft Week - Are t...he Cardinals Smoke Screening us and Jon Gruden doesn't trust anyone in the Radiers scouting department (17:33 - 21:10). Who's back of the week including religion and PFT's trip to Cannabis Cup (21:10 - 34:59). 2X Super Bowl Champion Ike Taylor joins the show to talk about his career, what happened to the Steelers this year with AB and LeVeon and the famous Tebow Mania play (34:59 - 77:32). Segments include PR 101 for Darren Rovell getting owned online all Easter Sunday, Connect the Dots Pop the wine drinker, Monday Reading Danny Amendola's Instagram posts, and Game of Thrones recap (. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have two-time Super Bowl champion, Ike Taylor. I'm going to say this right now, listen up, this could possibly be interview of the year. I'm throwing in the nominees. He was a very funny guy. Interview of the year, he's going to be at least the finalist for interview of the year.
Starting point is 00:00:27 That's how funny he was. Not of nowhere too, because we just sat down with Ike Taylor, thought it'd be a regular interview. He had so many good one-liners, so many good stories. We also have Game of Thrones recap, NBA playoffs, NHL, NFL Draft week, and Who's Back the Week, and special Monday reading from someone who should not be online anymore, a certain wide receiver for the Detroit Lions, which I didn't realize he signed with the Lions. Yeah, he did.
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Starting point is 00:02:26 It's part of my tape presented by Balls School Sports. Welcome to part of my tape presented by the Cash App. Today is Monday, April 22nd. We are Balls Deep in the Playoffs. Let's go. Balls Deep in the Playoffs. Let's go. Well, the first round of the playoffs, so we're not Balls Deep yet.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We're like, we're Frenelum Deep in the Playoffs. We're Balls Deep in the first round of the playoffs. Yes, that's true. We're Balls Deep in the Grand Scheme. We're playing just the tip with the entire playoff picture. Yes. So, let's start with the NBA Playoffs. We'll talk a little hockey as well.
Starting point is 00:02:58 The big story of the NBA Playoffs first round, I would say, has been Jared Dudley versus the Philadelphia 76ers. The few that no one wanted or needed, but here we are, and we have it. We got it. We got it. We had the Sixers versus the Nets in Brooklyn. Brooklyn stand up. They've been chanting Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:03:18 and there was Channing Jared Dudley's name. Jared Dudley tried to fight Joe Bede, Jay Butt, teammate of the year award. That's how you get, that's how you get that extra money when he hops in. Ben Simmons has become somewhat of a sympathetic character. I want your take PFT. I'm just going to say totally unbiased even though I'm biased because I don't like Jared Dudley because he denied an interview on part of my take and, and canceled like last second. I think Jared Dudley's a clown. Ooh, he's a clown. I'll go with that. And you're right. When you said Ben Simmons has become kind of a sympathetic character in a very hilarious way he has because he is a very, very good basketball player. And if you have
Starting point is 00:03:58 a basketball player with one enormous flaw in their game, yes, that person becomes more likable because they suck a little bit. The boy can't shoot. You're like, oh, he's not, he's not so different from you and I. Right. We've got about the same percentage jump shot from three point to accept the fact that he can like dunk over everybody is a good ball handler. So yeah, he has become a little bit sympathetic. I like the Nets. I think they're feisty. I think that arena in Brooklyn has a lot of history in it. I think that in the second round of playoffs when the capitals take on the Islanders. Oh, you're going to hop right there. We're going to have to overcome a lot in that barn. That is, that is ground zero
Starting point is 00:04:30 for hockey on Long Island. So I think it's more of the building that's given the Nets their edge in this one. I people really like people don't like Ben Simmons. I know. I have a question for you, though. Yeah. Is Joel and beat going to be a bust? Joel and beat is a fucking monster. He's a monster. Like watching him play when he's healthy, when, but he was a monster on Saturday. When he, when, when he is out there, he looks like he's playing with little kids. Like his hands are so much bigger than everybody's so much taller. He gets the ball in the post. There's nothing anyone can do. Yeah. Him and Boban are like 1.5 sizes. They're like there. It makes no sense. Watching him move and be
Starting point is 00:05:09 like, you know, be able to move as such a big guy. He also had an awesome, uh, post game sound bite where he basically was like, they were like, why didn't you fight? Some people were saying Joel and beat, like he just put his hands up and didn't want to fight. He's like, well, I'm very important to my team and my teammates. Unlike some other people, Jared Dudley, Jared Dudley can get kicked out. It doesn't really matter. Yeah. Joel and beat knows that he's important to the, to the Sixers. And I like that out of Joel and beat Ben Simmons. People really don't like Ben Simmons. It's actually crazy. I think it's because everyone's like, dude, just shoot, just shoot. Well, they give him
Starting point is 00:05:43 like 14 feet of leeway. When he's, when he's like above the key, yeah, the ball up, hot fans. That's what you shoot the puck the whole time. That's what they used to do with Chris Paul when Chris Paul, first kind of league people forget Chris Paul had no jump shot at all. Like he couldn't hit anything outside 12 feet and he developed one. So I think, I think Simmons will eventually develop a jump shot to compliment the rest of his game, but it's going to take him a while. And I think mentally it's tougher when you see an opponent giving you like such flagrant disrespect to even get the confidence to shoot. You're like, that guy really thinks I suck. I must really suck.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yes. And listen, again, we are, I am very biased in this because Jared Dudley did cancel a part of my take interview, like what, two minutes before you were supposed to come on. So I do like, I'm happy to admit my bias here for people who are like, how could you ever take Ben Simmons side? Well, I can tell, I can tell you, because guess what? Petty Wars, baby. This leak. What if Dudley comes on? Well, Dudley comes on. We're going to tell, we'll talk a little bit about it. Yeah, we will. We'll wipe the slate clean. We'll give him a chance. But until that happens, Petty
Starting point is 00:06:45 Wars, for real, I'm going to go to Instagram. I did like, I will say one thing nice about Jared Dudley. The minute he got kicked out, he went straight to the locker room and just started liking tweets of random people on Twitter saying they would, they would kick his ass. They would beat him up. Yeah, that's pretty cool. You know what I'm going to do for Petty Wars? I'm going to follow Jared Dudley right now. Hang on. Yeah. And then unfollow. Yeah. Then boom, Jared Dudley. That's where the male verification hurts though. Yeah, that does. No one's even going to see it. Oh, his Instagram handle is Jared Dudley for MVP. Oh, you are on it. Isn't that, oh wait, that's okay. Yeah, I am, I'm so verified
Starting point is 00:07:19 on Instagram. Get it. Jared Dudley accounts. What's his, hey, can you do some research and find what his channel is? We'll get back to that. But the other news coming out of that game was the Brooklyn Nets General Manager, Sean Marks, was suspended for one game. I always love these suspensions when they like suspend an owner or a general manager for a game. Like you're not allowed to sit in your nice luxury box. You're going to have to sit in your nice luxury couch at your house. Right. He was suspended because he went into the officiating room and charged the refs, which is always a bizarre move. I like it though. That's the passion. Like if I was an owner, if I was a general manager, I'd
Starting point is 00:07:55 probably have a back entrance to the restroom just so I could pop in and be like, it's me again, motherfuckers. What the hell? That is their version of the process of Brooklyn is just having your general manager just going harder than anybody else on the team. Listen, nice season for the Nets. They probably would get bouncing game five. But yeah, I don't know. Jared Dudley, you're on the wrong side for me here. They're going to be good next year though. And J-Bud, way to be a teammate, bro. That's a huge, like just when J-Bud goes. I was surprised. I was surprised that J-Bud did that. Well, he knows. J-Bud's usually all about J-Bud. Right. He knows. He knows people know that there's questions about his
Starting point is 00:08:30 being a good teammate. Boom. Just play that highlight tape over and over and over. J-Dud does not have an Instagram account. His most recent tweet though was Cersei Time came of thrones. Let's go. Oh, wow. Really cares. Yeah. Damn. Even though I am team Cersei. Fuck. Okay, Jared Dudley. I'm no longer team Cersei. I disavow Cersei because of Jared Dudley's association with him. Follow Jared Dudley. Unfollow Jared Dudley. Bam. Have that. All right. Other stories. Tell me how my ass tastes. The Bucks Piston series. Shout out our boy Blake Griffin for putting it all out on the line. They can't be able to do it soon enough. What? Tell the FD house. Tell the FD house. Yeah, they'll get my ass in his mouth. Just a little
Starting point is 00:09:08 savior metric stat for you right there, by the way, Hank. Albert Pujolson, Alex Rodriguez. The only two players that have 14 home runs before May 1st. How many home run derby championships do those two have combined? Zero. Also, wait, Pujolson win? No. Was that, was that the year Hamilton? I don't know, but he has never won one. And then how about, how about this for you? Where is the all star game this year? Cleveland. Cleveland. Hmm. Interesting. Because Christian Yelich has yet to hit a home run on the road. That is very interesting. Bam. Wait, he's hit all these at home? He just loves the slides. He loves the fucking slides. Suck it. We're going to have Christian Yelich on this week. Let me just say though, this is a take
Starting point is 00:09:46 that's going to sound like me just trying to talk myself into not being worried about Big Cat's lips being all over my butt. And your lips being on my butt. You see, there's some, there's a lot of consternation about that because in the clip, you volunteered me to eat your ass. You did insane. I know because I was focused. I said we will teach others ass. I had a laser focus on eating that. So you kept going on your little train. I kept going on my little train. So we know a different destination. So it's going to be a human centipede that's going to start with a crow, then to my mouth, then my butt to your mouth. So a crow, human centipede hybrid. Okay. You're going to have to eat my butt too. Blake Griffin. Let's get back on track. Blake
Starting point is 00:10:25 Griffin played with like a bionic leg. Shout out to him for trying as hard as he could. That's the heart that you like to see out of a Blake of the Year candidate. He knows that it's coming up too. Yes. He knows it's coming up. We're watching. Unfortunately, the bucks just demolished them again. That series is trash. The Rockets. James Harden missed every single shot. James, this is, this is when you have to be worried. If you're the Warriors, because the Warriors are done with the Clippers. Like that was fun. Yeah. That one little, you know, come back. You have to really be in time. Yeah. Kevin Rear was like, Oh wait, I am the best player in the NBA. I'll just shoot over you and just do everything I want. I give credit to Charles Barkley for doing that because
Starting point is 00:11:00 he straight up talked to Kevin Durant through the camera and he was like, I can't do it. I was about to do a Charles Barkley impression was going to be bad. But basically said, this guy stinks and you're Kevin Durant. Just be Kevin Durant and things will be fine. Right. And he was like, Oh, he's right. I am easy money sniper. Snake of the grass. And Clay Thompson also said that he, to reset his brain, he just jumped in the ocean. That's so awesome about California. I love Clay Thompson so much. He's so fucking cool. But so the reason why the Warriors should be a little worried though, the Rockets survived the James Harden weird drug game where he just didn't score on 420. Interesting. And they somehow then came back late, beat the jazz. That series is
Starting point is 00:11:43 basically over. Yeah. So watching that game, I just attributed that to being in Salt Lake City. That's not, James Harden is not in his normal environment in Salt Lake. There are no strip clubs there. Nothing. No fun. Probably can't find a bar that serves any kind of the liquor that he likes because they have those modesty laws where you can only drink like milk, 3%. Yeah, 3% milk is basically a pickleback. That's a Red Bull vodka is a forper is a whole milk. Yes. So yeah, he was, he was out of sorts. He made the dunk though when I counted and he's still good at doing that thing in the fourth quarter where he just leans into you and gets a foul shot. And the thing is like Utah fans hate him. They absolutely hate everyone. But if James Harden was a member
Starting point is 00:12:24 of the jazz, he would be their favorite player of all time, except from probably John Stockton. I'm going to guess they'll still lean that way. But like Harden, the way that he plays, they would love what an asshole he can be on the court. They would absolutely love that in Salt Lake. The Celtic sweep, Hank, thoughts. That was a quick sweep. I guess all sweeps are quick. It's going to be, I think next round's going to be a battle. Yes, I would say so. And then our magic. Not going to happen. Tough break. Not going to happen for our magic. Not going to happen for our magic. We tried, I never even got the shot of Epcot. I feel very robbed of our magic and their playoff, their, but their return to the playoffs in the first time in forever. Listen,
Starting point is 00:13:05 they'll be fine. They got some building blocks. They got a DJ Augustine, like we talked about. Carter Williams, Michael Clark, MC Doug, one rookie of the year. Yeah, he's good. And then they've got Aaron. Yeah. I was going to Aaron Paul, they got Aaron Paul. Aaron, they got Aaron. And then the game that's going on right now, no surprise to anyone. Damian Lillard and Russell Westbrook have a feud. Russell Westbrook is just walking around looking for a feud. I also need a microphone on Steven Adams at all times because like when he was getting into it with Damian Lillard, like a couple of days ago, and he was just gesturing violently all over the court and like putting his finger in his chest. I just need to know what he's
Starting point is 00:13:42 saying because I don't know what it is by guarantee you it's gold. All right. So that's NBA playoffs, PFT. I want to throw something out there for the NHL. So you put the caps in the second round. I'm fine with that. I'm okay with that. Are you a little worried about the curse of Barry Trotts? No, I'm not worried about the curse of Barry Trotts because I just decided there's a curse of Barry Trotts where the team that fires him. Yes. And now he's going to get his vengeance. Here's where I would be concerned about Barry Trotts. If he gets out there and he skates the hot lap, the last lap of the practice, that's when it's like, okay, shit's real. I'm just saying you win a Stanley Cup. A franchise that's never won anything. That's a joke of a franchise.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Win a Stanley Cup. Fires their coach and their coach goes to the New York Islanders. Now you got to play them. Okay. First of all, we didn't fire him. Okay. You let him go. It was a contract. You didn't hire him. You did not renew. You did not hire him. We did not. We elected not to have Barry Trotts on our picture. It's firing. Well, we got Reardon. Reardon's pretty good. I'm not concerned about the curse of Barry Trotts. I am very concerned about that arena. Okay. I think that that place is just, it screams hockey and it's going to be a tough place to play. Those walls talk. They do. And I'm very worried about Frankie Borelli. I actually am worried about that because he is a lunatic. He is insane when it comes to the Islanders. He assaulted an old man. He did.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And he'll do it again. And well, I mean, the dude on the Hurricanes tried to assault an old man and Alex Ovechkin beat the shit out of him. Oh yeah. Was he 19? You should actually, yeah. You should really like Alexander Ovechkin because he's taking it on himself to be a vigilante and beating up teenagers. Listen, if you're 19, don't go around Ovechkin. He'll beat the fuck out of you. Is that guy even back? Yeah. I think he's coming back. Next game, he was like, yeah, he was like, trying to be all hipster to Ovechkin. He was like, hey, name three of these bands that you've never heard of. Ovechkin was like, fuck you, teen. And punched him in the face. Hank came seven, the biggest Bruins fan we know. Thoughts. Nervous. I'm nervous. Yeah. Interesting. It's in our barn,
Starting point is 00:15:40 though. I think we're going to take it home. Okay. They did look good today. The boy is skating well in your barn. The old barn. What about, I mean, Toronto's goalie is pretty good. He's pretty good. Tuck a rask is sometimes not good. Toronto was good like 50 years ago. That's got to count for something. What about the curse of Rob Ford? That's true. Is that maybe why they haven't been good recently? It's a couple of years too late for that. I think they haven't been good prior to that as well. Yes. Yes. They haven't won anything in a very long time. Bruins need to win to keep the Boston sweep intact. Okay. There we go. What I'd really like to see is if the capitals eventually play against Maple Leaf, so I get to go to Toronto. Have to have
Starting point is 00:16:20 Passport Day here on part of my take. Yep. By the way, so you just put the capitals into the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah. I mean, I'm also thinking how quickly you become a hockey fan. It'd be awesome to go back to Vegas. It's disgusting. I wish we had last year's PFT. Winnipeg. Who was actually scared about it and like, oh man, who knows? I was never worried last year. I've never seen my team's wins. Now you've got to just lifting the cup again. Like, oh yeah, well, I'm going to have to go to Toronto. Once you taste. And then maybe back to Vegas. Once you taste the nectar out of the cup for yourself, I know it's not a lot of, you guys probably haven't done it recently. Well, I've done it a lot. I slept on the cup. You passed out on it? Yeah. There's a picture
Starting point is 00:16:59 of me sleeping on the cup. You passed out on it? I took a little nap on the cup. Did it just let you do that? Well, yeah. I shared a cup with Diplo. And that was pretty cool. And so once you do that, it's like, okay. You've got to get an STD test. Yeah. Well, I trust it. I'm clean. I'm clean as a whistle. I'm looking back and I'm looking forward. So I'm like, I would like to do. You just become a hockey fan. It's okay. You just admit it. You got to bring those pants back. Yeah. You just got cocky ass pants. No, the pants you got kicked out of the club with. Oh yeah, you're right. Those would be the new clutch jeans for this year's playoffs. You still have them? No, I left them. I think I left them in the hotel room just like as my championship banner. I raised them to the
Starting point is 00:17:34 ceiling. Yes. So I lowered them. All right. Let's do a little NFL draft talk. We have two things we have to talk about. One is our guy Pete Prisco reporting that the Cardinals now do not want Kyler Murray. So smoke screens season is in full effect. I don't know what to make of it. I actually think there's a chance the Cardinals can say like, wait, what are we doing? We're taking two quarter backs and back to back years. But it's like, you know, new regime in there. So I could see them. I still think they're going to take Kyler Murray. Yeah. I think that Josh Rosen is here. I'm calling my shot. I think that Josh Rosen is going to be a red skin. Okay. I think that they're going to make Josh Rosen unless the skins can get Haskins. A team should draw it should trade for Josh Rosen.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Like it's so stupid that teams could sour on a guy when he played on the worst fucking team in football. Yeah. Behind the worst line with a totally different OC and like all these things, like you like think about Mitch Trabisky or Jared Goff, their first seasons. And why wouldn't you want to say, oh, he was the 10th pick last year. Why, why wouldn't you trade for him now? Because we don't know if he really loves football or not. That's true. It's still up in the air. Get that going again. Yeah. So yeah, I think that he'll end up getting traded. I really do. The other big story was the Raiders. Oh yeah. So the Raiders sent all the scouts home and said, go home, take your stuff. It's just going to be Mike Mayock and John Gruden running the show, like Mr. Burns and
Starting point is 00:18:54 Smithers doing the whole power plan when they were on strike. So I get that Mayock doesn't trust anybody, but this is like the most hilarious example of NFL paranoia. Do you think it's, I think it's Gruden doesn't trust anyone. I think they don't trust each other. Well, that's what I was going to say. They kicked everyone out and now they're just staring at each other on like a long table on either end and they're like, uh-oh, what's going on here? Do I trust you? Do you trust me? And they're just going to basically forget to pick. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Mayock had some like some smoke screen picks on his big board that he just put up so that other people, you know how like in Game of Thrones, they'll film an ending. Spoiler
Starting point is 00:19:32 maybe. Or just in movies in general or TV shows, they'll film movie or they'll film endings that don't actually air. Right. Just that they kind of throw off the scent for all the cast and production that's working on. So you can't spoil it. I'm pretty sure Mayock has like made up draft prospects names on the big board and they'll go Harvester Jones from Northern Illinois University. Let's get him. Interior Lyman. He's my number one bubble butt. So he's, we're going after him in the second round. Oily ass hips. Oily ass hips. Hoping that like the scouts will go spread that word. I don't think that they trust each other. I think you're right. But I think they trust each other more than they trust anybody else in that building. I just want
Starting point is 00:20:09 them to trade all three of their picks to get Kyler Murray. That would be great. It would be so fucking funny. And then Kyler Murray gets to play in Oakland in the baseball for one year. Maybe he can get both contracts. All right. Should we do who's back? Hank, why don't you get us going? Sure. I had a few. One of them was the ocean after Clay Thompson's comment. Okay. Ocean Cures All. My other. Oh, you love that. I do love the ocean. It is number one hangover cure. It is. Clay Thompson. Now what's better the Pacific or the Atlantic to jump in for a hangover? This is a very tough question, Hank. I want you to answer this honestly, because there's a lot at stake because Hank obviously loves the Atlantic Ocean. Situa kid, but he has been basically
Starting point is 00:20:53 begging us to move part of my take to the West Coast for, I don't know, since its inception. I mean, I would have to just say Atlantic though, because that's, you know, that's all I know. You've never been in the Pacific. I have, but I've never jumped off a bridge into an ocean in the Pacific. By the way, it might hit different. I don't know. Were you with us? Oh, no, it was final four. We were in the, we were in the airport and we're talking about Hank again, being like, I want to move to California. And I should have consulted with you, but I made the deal to Hank that we will move. It sounds a lot like the ass eating. Ready? No, no, no. We'll move, we'll move part of my take to California, but Hank can't ever go into any water, ocean or pool.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay. So he just lives there and he just has to live there and cannot go into any body of water. But is he allowed on the beach? I would say no. No, no beaches. No beaches. No beaches. Because beaches, speaking of California, so I just got back from California. Like a couple hours ago. Sack town. Sack town. What do you mean, Hank? That's like fake California. Geez. My one question. If we move to California. I tell you what, Hank, we're moving to Fresno. Just like you always wanted it, buddy. I have one question for all our West Coast listeners out there. What do you guys do between the hours of 9pm and when you go to bed? This is where Hank's little fucking, dude, I remember I went to a bachelor party in San Diego a few years ago,
Starting point is 00:22:20 and I was at the bar and at like eight o'clock, there's just nothing on. No more sports on. So you have to talk to everyone. It's horrendous. Everybody just like goes home and irons the bill of their hat for tomorrow to make sure it's nice and fresh. It sucks. I don't get it. People speak to each other and like eye contact, good vibes, fuck that. Yeah. Wasn't a fan of that. No. Very sad. One day. One day you guys will come around. We can right now. We can move to Sacramento tomorrow, Hank. I mean, a perfect example of this, you know, best player in the world, LeBron James. He's hairline. I don't know if you guys saw this today. Yes. His hairline is back. Oh, really? He resurrected it on Easter. He posted a video and he just had like a nice,
Starting point is 00:23:00 fresh fade. Yep. Perfectly, you know, full head, full head of hair at the top. Yeah. I think it's the word for it. I want him to get like braids. Yeah. Like either Kawhi braids or Dwayne Wade braids. He probably saw how fly Dwayne looks. Angelo Russell, fat braids. Ooh. What about the, like the Kobe Jones, you remember him from the US soccer team? Yes. Some like bleached braids. I like that. I miss LeBron. LeBron would look like such a juggalo if he had bleached braids. Yeah, he would. It'd be awesome. I miss LeBron though. Do you guys miss him in his playoffs? I miss him in the playoffs. LeBron comes back with bleached braids and a tongue ring and he's like, it's me, Kali LeBron. I did see that ratings down like 30%. Yeah. LeBron, like I do, I... So it's Jim Sarant's field goal.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I want LeBron to lose, but I miss him losing in the playoffs. It's really what I miss. I miss him winning enough to the point where it's entertaining to watch him lose. That's right. You're right. Correct. Anything else Hank? Is that it, Hank? That's it. That's it. Okay. Yeah, it too. Great job. For who's back? It's a one topic. All right. My who's back of the week segment. Oh, you only have one. Is church. Oh, that was mine too. Fuck. So this is one of the, I guess, two days out of the year that most people go to church. Oh wait. This wasn't mine. Well, it might be different. So the other part of my who's back of the week for being church is also true love, because I married a couple this weekend. I got ordained as a minister. That's how they're not stealing valor. Yeah. What do you
Starting point is 00:24:24 mean? Is that not stealing God's valor? No, I got officially ordained by a recognized church. Yeah. I'm a minister. I'm a, I'm a literal minister now, Hank. How long was the course? The course? Yeah. Do you have to be celibate? No. No, not at all. That's not minister. It's that you're thinking of priests. Okay, got it. No, I'm the one that gets the fuck all the time. I'm probably going to fuck more. Okay. Now that I'm a minister. Yeah. But so yeah, I married a couple officially. Thanks for forcing autumn. So I can marry anybody right now. Actually, Hank and Bubba, you guys are married. I declared it as a minister. Okay, so are you the godfather? They don't have kids. No, when they have kids, or if they do have kids, well, they probably,
Starting point is 00:25:07 if you, if they got married a cannabis cup, I don't know if their libido is great. Well, yeah, probably not. Probably. Well, their libido might be okay, but their fertility might not. Yeah, mountain doing. And they're going to name their kid foliage. I had some similar PFT. Yeah. My, my, who's back is Kanye's church. Yeah. He has, he's back and people are very mad because he's profiting off his church. And I, for one, am disgusted that anyone would profit off religion ever. I can't believe that. It's gross. The fact that Kanye thinks he can sell sweatshirts for his church. Ugh. Can you imagine? That's terrible. Can you imagine if somebody got on TV as a minister? Yeah. And would just like ask people
Starting point is 00:25:51 to send them money and tell them, Oh, you'll be happy if you buy a merchandise. You'll be closer to God. Yeah. Or like, or like, you know, having a religion and then like owning a third of the world's land and tax free and just making billions and billions of dollars gross. That is gross. But Kanye can't believe you did the sweatshirt, man. Take him to church. I love when people got mad about that. That's like, uh, that's kind of the point of religion to just make a shitload of money. No, it is. Kanye West is, is doing the exact right thing that you should do if you start a religion. And people just can't believe it because he's just doing it so blatantly. And they're like, Oh, but usually it's supposed to be like eternal salvation and everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Took hand away, you know, a tenth of your paycheck. Right. That's what it is. 10%. Yeah. As it goes away. Do you want to get ordained too? And we can do like maybe on like annually on grit week, we can manage. How do I get it ordained? You can just do it online. Just type in. If what if I get ordained and unordained you. You can't do that. You can't cancel me. I think I can. No, you can't cancel. Yeah, you can. And a minister. No, there has to be a conclave. What if I become a, uh, a Buddha, a conclave of Cardinals has to meet up and say that they agree. No, I, I don't think, I don't think I want to do that because I feel like, uh, the people that we would marry, there'd be a pretty high divorce rate. Probably. Hey, I mean, Hank and Bubba are already having
Starting point is 00:27:06 problems. Yeah, they are. They haven't looked eye to eye since you married them. Is the spark on guys? No. How was cannabis cup? It was interesting. Yeah. It was a, it was quite a crowd. I was that way. Um, Buddha Ben was having the time of his life. Of course he was. He woke up early in the morning, like a kid on Christmas, just waiting for people to come downstairs and meet him in the lobby. Yeah. And Buddha Ben is not an early riser. He's not a morning person. I don't think anyone at cannabis cup. When you say early, like everyone's gonna be like noon. No, he was up at like 8am. He was down in the lobby at 8am, even though we were going to meet down there at 930. Which time change is about noon. Time change is about noon. But yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:27:40 at cannabis cup was, it was a very, very crazy scene. There's just a lot of ways to get high. There are a lot of, tons of ways. And I, so I talked to quite a few people out there about how weed is too good. Didn't get a lot of consensus built behind that, but one guy, hopefully he explained to me, he goes, the problem is, man, you've been getting stoned this whole time. And I was like, yeah. And he goes, you should be getting high. Yes. I was like, wait, there's a difference. There's a difference. Yeah. And so he taught me the, it's like the difference between hurt and injured. Yeah. Being stoned and being high. Buzzed and drunk. I have to now start getting high instead of getting stoned. And then I'll
Starting point is 00:28:14 be good. Yes. I agree with that. Also, it's just a big contest to see who can invent the most expensive way to get as humanly high as possible. Wait, so is it actually, it's an actual like contest? Yeah. They give away awards for like best strain and all that stuff. But the dab machine. Who are the judges? Oh, I don't know. I want to see, I need the follow-up. The three remaining Cottonmouth Kings. I need the guys, I need a follow-up like peace, where they go back to wherever they came from with the trophy. And like, what, is he the king of that town? Like, hey, I won best strain in 2019. So what's great. So the reason why we got those, why we married that couple was at the start, Pat says, here's a fun
Starting point is 00:28:57 little fact. Any couple that got married today, it would be their 50th wedding anniversary on four 2069. And then I was like, if anybody out there wants to get married, I'll get ordained during the show, thinking nobody would take us up on it. And this couple just raised their hand. They weren't even dating. And so the guy at first was like, and she was like, we'll do it. And yes, their 50th anniversary is going to be four 2069. Sunday scaries for that guy. That'll be nice. And just being like, oh, I got married this weekend. Yeah. Waking up on the Sunday after that. Well, I mean, they got married for $0. There's a cheap wedding all the time. Yeah. And they had a bunch of friends around. The funniest part was we sat down with
Starting point is 00:29:39 this dude that had this big hydraulic press for making dabs. And I was like, why don't you just get a hair straightener at CVS, a Connor hair straightener like Action Bronson does. He's like one of the top three dad makers in the entire world. That's what he does. That's how he makes it. That's how he makes it. And the guy's like, well, I guess you could do that. But this one's $6,000. Fuck. Oh, man, sounds like it sounds exactly like I expected. Yeah. I have one more who's back in the week. And that's bat flip debate. We just got stuck inside of who's back. We did. I like that. Backflip debates are back. Who's who is saying who do you think is is leading the charge back? No. Okay. I'll give you a hint. He's been on the show and he does not play baseball.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Anymore? He may have played in college, but I don't think that he's not known for being a baseball player. I don't know. Danny Knell. Oh, see, okay. You should have, you should have guessed that. Here's my, here is though. So he's obviously anti bat flips. Yes. He did play baseball. He actually was, I think he might have even been drafted in MLB. But I actually appreciate Danny Knell because I think we're at the point with bat flips where everyone universally loves them. So if we kill off all the anti bat flippers, we're arguing against no one. Right. And that's the worst place to be on the internet to be like, Oh, this guy probably thinks the bat flip sucks. Like, well, you're talking about no one, dude. You're just making a straw man argument. No one
Starting point is 00:31:07 cares. You're fighting with your own shadow. Basically, it's been whittled down to the only people that care about bat flips are Danny Knell. Goose gossage. And then the fans of the team that just got bat flipped against. Yes. And possibly throw in maybe like a middle reliever from Texas. Yeah. Who's, who's, who's pissed off because he keeps getting homered off. Right. Danny says the road we're headed down by encouraging bat flips is followed by pitchers fist pumping and acting a fool after, after every strikeout. Then we've got everyone jumping around like idiots in the third inning. Who wants to see that? Damn. Baseball could be fun. Great point, Danny. Shit. Can you imagine if people celebrated in football? Disgusting. So I'm actually appreciative of Danny
Starting point is 00:31:47 Knell because we really do. Like they're a dying breed. The anti-bat flippers are a dying breed. And once they die off, we will basically just be arguing with no one and we'll be big fucking losers. We need to mate Danny Knell with somebody else to produce the next round of people that will stand up for this take. Like having mate with Tomi Lahren. I was going to say the Kin State gun girl. That works too. Either one of those. Okay. A threesome. Yep. And whoever gets pregnant first. Yep. That is the air to the anti-bat flip community. He will sit on the iron throne. The Prince of his province. Yeah. The Prince of his province. The iron throne is just made out of bats. All right. Let's get to our interview. I tease it at the beginning. Nominee for interview
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Starting point is 00:35:34 that it's really one and a half rings because I got to be one because the refs got the other half of the ring in the Seahawks Super Bowl. No, not at all. And also that fumble by Bettis against the Colts, that was pretty lucky. Right, but that was not far that we won. Yeah, you give, you take the half of your ring. You should give that to Van der Jack. And you're bringing up all the stuff. One and a quarter. One and a quarter. Yeah, one and a quarter is really what it should be. But y'all hard on the pimp. Let me ask you a question. When that play happens, when Bettis fumbles, were you watching it or were you like looking up or were you looking at the field? Man, I was talking smack to Adrian James family. Adrian James family was sitting right
Starting point is 00:36:16 behind us. And I was talking cash money to his family. So they told me, shut the f up, look, busty, just fumble. And I look and I'm like, I got to give my helmet, get back on the field. So you can tell Dick LaBeau was just like our defense coordinator at the time. He was just like an awe. And we sitting on a field like a Dickie, give us the call, give us the call. And he snapped out of it. And James Fair was just like, he bought the call to the sideline, not to the sideline, but on the field. And we took off from Nell. But at the time when busty fumble, I was talking smack to EJ, Adrian James people in the stands. And when they tell him, I thought they was playing. But then the crowd just like erupted. Right. Now I was like, oh man, it's time to play.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And were you were you on the field for a Vanderjacks field goal that missed? Yes, I was. You were. Yeah. So, so we, we, we froze him. And he looked over at the sideline like, that ain't gonna freeze me. Yeah, he was one of the best. He was like, he was like a little too cocky too. You know, he used to keep a dollar bill underneath his wrist guard because that was to remind himself that he was money. That's when you know your kicker is trying a little bit too hard. Which I do like the confidence though. I like it because you got to understand it's hard. Yeah. It's hard. It's like being a closer in baseball. Like you're not, you're not coming in for six, seven innings. You coming in to close. And if you're a good closer, you're gonna get paid.
Starting point is 00:37:52 If you ain't a good closer, and I'm sure with this New York media, if you're not a good closer, but you're gonna catch hell. Thank you for respecting the New York media. Yeah. So the next day. So Vanderjack looks over and he's like, he's trying to talk himself up. Or could you tell that he was a little bit shaky? Nah, he was just like, he was just like looking. And at the time we had some straight rough necks on our team. So while he looking, we all giving him the blues, we cursing them out. Like we, he looking, but the look turned into like some confidence to like, oh snap. They really gonna whoop my ass if I make this film. So frozen came back. The rest is history. Yeah. The rest is broken. Then the Seahawks, then the refs helped you in the Seahawks
Starting point is 00:38:39 Super Bowl. Not at all. One in a quarter. Listen, Chris hopes, Chris hopes sold that. He sold that shit. That wasn't Pastor Affairs. We played the number one offensive teams that year for it was five. We played four of them. That's actually crazy. Defense was pretty good. You couldn't tell us nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you won a Super Bowl when Big Ben, I think had the lowest rating of a quarterback of all time in Super Bowl history. You couldn't tell us nothing. Antoine Randall L was your best quarterback that year after the Super Bowl got paid. So he did. Yeah. Dan Snyder broke out. He backed up the drinkstruck for him. How much is a defense having like that type of swagger where it's like every guy feels like they're, you know, bringing something to the
Starting point is 00:39:28 table. And can you tell? Because you obviously played for a long time. Can you tell when your defense has that extra level of swagger that's like we got playmakers versus we got some good talented guys? It was really that us against the world mentality. Like it was really that us against the world. Really. Like it was an unselfish us against the world mentality. It's also probably pretty bad ass to be, you know, the colors of the Steelers. I feel like every time you put them on, you probably feel like we feel this day. I feel pretty good right now. I'm wearing yellow and black and I feel like I got out of bed with a little extra swag this morning. You can probably tell right here. It was like us. Pele and Pele and Ali. Yeah. So it's just, but that's
Starting point is 00:40:12 how we felt. Like, and we did everything together. We did every like to this day, I'm still in the 27 man group text from that Super Bowl till this day, a 27 man group man to text. And it's just our kids call each other uncle like Uncle Troy, Uncle Ike, Uncle Chris Hope, Uncle Joey Porter, Casey Hampton, Joey, like it's just, it's just everything is uncle. But one thing I did like about, you know, Coach Cowell and Coach Tomlin, man, it's just he let our sons run around in that locker room. That's cool. Which was huge because my son till this day, he's 12. He still understands and remembers what was going on. Like, Hey man, because my son play football, like, why are you trying to run through these boys? He was like, Uncle James Harrison told me to take
Starting point is 00:41:02 the soul. That's a bad guess. He was like, Uncle James Harrison told me to take the soul out of these kids at 12. Yeah. So they can, they can come in the locker room as long as you don't Instagram live or Facebook live. Well, you just see James Harrison sit on your son down and just being like, Hey, listen, I need you to take the soul out of these kids. And they're serious. Yeah. People were dead serious. Like, Hey, man, come here. Come here, Ivan. That's my son name. He'll come over there. He'll be like, Yes, sir. You play football. Yes, sir. You any good? Well, I'm just starting. When you hit him, make sure you take the soul out of him. It's so perfect. So wait, back up for a second. You said you're in a 20 person group text?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, to this day. That's insane. So we got we got the 09 and we have the 2005. So it's like two different group tech. My battery run dead so fast. I was about to say who does who sends the most texts in those groups? Oh, Tyrone Carter. So Tyrone Carter. He got the look. I ain't gonna say that Tyrone Carter wasn't too tall for his position. He played safety. Okay, he was like five. He probably say he like five nine, but he really like that's a classic. Yeah, sure. Nobody would say that. He's actually five nine. So he's from Palmerville. You're about to say little man syndrome. I'll say it for you. That's not it's not a real thing. It's like we're just normal people. Like I'm not that little. We're actually average. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Thank you for not saying that. But for football to play safety in NFL, that's kind of not tall. Right. Yeah, that's kind of not tall. It's not tall in real life. No, it's totally normal. Yeah, that's kind of not tall. Yeah. Short in real life. So he from he's from Pompano Beach. He's from Pompano Beach, Florida. Went to Minnesota. Thorpe War Winner. Thorpe a War Winner. So for the people who don't know what the Thorpe War Winner is, the best secondary guy in the world in college. That was TC, aka Fire Starter. We used to call him Fire Starter because anything you said, it's pissed him off. Like, man, I just said you had a good day. F you, you don't mean it.
Starting point is 00:43:18 What you're describing is perfectly average seismic syndrome. Yes, that is totally normal for a guy who's five, seven. Anyway, he's five, nine. He's still in the Flintstone day, so he just coming into 2019. So now he's new to social media. And he puts out any like TC, like, don't show a group of guys what you're cooking. Right. Because he has a kennel of dogs. TC, don't nobody want to see you clean up your kennel of dog poop. Right. Come on, man. Right. Would not show us the cute dogs. He's so far behind. Yeah. I'm talking about 19 years behind. Yeah. So far behind. Good dude. He just be doing too much. Yeah. So he's the one that blows your phone up. He everybody. Yeah. Basically.
Starting point is 00:44:10 So, um, I was reading your Wikipedia earlier. I think you're the fastest person to ever appear on part of my take. Probably one of them. Oh, Patterson, you by the 40. Chris Johnson, Chris Johnson, my dog. So you but you actually were timed in 4.18 seconds for the 40 yard dash. That sounds like some Louisiana cooking. Yeah. 4, 4, 2, 7 was my fastest time. Okay. So the pro day one, that was just like, that was your coaches being like, yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody probably was asleep. Okay. So I heard that you used to train. You used to train your quickness in a very unusual way. You used to chase animals around. My uncle was old school. Like in S and S and I didn't know that that was kind of the norm
Starting point is 00:45:00 in Florida. Like boys go in the fields and they really chase rabbits. Like that's what they do. Like I was just doing that because my uncle was like, man, this will get you better and faster and quicker. Yeah. So I was just doing that just because I always had that drive, a good work ethic. But you go down in Florida where Fred Taylor is from, where Centennial Homes is from, they call it Muck City. Yeah. Muck City, Florida. That's what them boys really do. Yeah. Them boys really chase rabbits. They run into that high grass. Correct. Yeah. And they get the chasing. Yeah. Makes you quick, right? I mean, it's all mental. Have you ever caught a rabbit? No, I got close. You know, it's the ski skirt. They got the ski skirt. I'm not built. If you get me straight
Starting point is 00:45:46 ahead, I'm good, but the ski skirt. Right. So you touch one? You ever touch one? Like a flag football? You get them down on flag football? With a rabbit? Yeah. No, I mean, I touch a human being in flag football. No, but I'm saying like, have you gotten that close where you've like I've gotten real close. I got nervous. Yeah. Because what are you going to do? What do you do? I'm going to catch the rabbit then what? The dog chasing the car and then they finally get it. We got to ask the all the drama that's going around the Steelers right now, where have you landed on all that stuff? I was saying earlier, you need to get more to a weed and a me thing. Like the reason why we was winning Super Bowls
Starting point is 00:46:27 because it was what we doing. Right. It wasn't. This is what I'm doing. This is my show. And I've just learned that from the old guys back in the seventies. They just coming. The Lince Juan's, the Star Wars, Franco, Harry, Merrill Blunt. It's a lot of Lince Juan messed around and been a politician now. He's the AD from USC. Right. Right. Like and Mel Blunt probably got a hundred acres in Pittsburgh. Right. Franco Harris is a living legend. Rocky, he's finally coming back. Like it's a lot of the old school guys who just sat in Pittsburgh after winning Super Bowls. And you're a lifetime scholarship. You're on a lifetime scholarship when you win Super Bowls in Pittsburgh. Lifetime. Right. Lifetime. Set up in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Set up for life. So, but it was what we doing. Right. So we love the tradition they had back in the early 2000s. And so they felt us. Let's make it to what we doing. Right. And then we turn into winning, going to playoffs, going to playoffs, winning Super Bowls. And we always used to tell each other when you win, everybody get paid. Yeah. When you win, when you win, everybody get paid. It's a good point because now you see, you know, obviously there's a lot more money to be made right now than there was back in the 70s. Right. So I think rightfully so players like Levy on Bell sometimes look at their bottom line and they're like, Hey, you know, I got to maximize my value as a running back while I can. And they get it. And I understand that. But what you guys did. So
Starting point is 00:48:05 when you played, you know, there was still a lot of money at stake. Right. So how did how did that team balance the fact of like, we want to all get paid. We have a limited time to make our money with the fact that we want to keep this tradition going. How did that balance play out? Troy, well, I'm going to start off with Mr. With the Rooney family. Yeah. I feel like that's been a part of the change too. You know, obviously, the way, right. And maybe Dan Rooney, right. And it feels like that was right around the time where the Steelers not have lost their way, but it's definitely changed a little bit. It's a lot of things that's going on now. Pa Pa Rooney wouldn't have had that. Right. Like he it wasn't going to happen. He wasn't standing for it. Right. Mr. Art is
Starting point is 00:48:50 much more of a business businessman, business savvy lawyer, lawyer, so all that good stuff. I mean, the Rooney family just from my perspective, they set the standard. They set the standard. Begin to the players standpoint. Like Troy set the standard in the locker room. Like I tell people this all the time before OBJ was over. You know, J is an international rock star. He just so happened to play football. Like everybody want to be around OBJ from rappers to artists. You can just like women just want to be in his presence. OBJ. If Troy wanted to be like that, Troy could have been like that. Like we always felt we was the Jackson five and Troy was Michael Jackson. Like we just knew our role. We just knew how special he was, but he set the tone in the locker
Starting point is 00:49:44 room into being humble. What we doing far from materialistic down. The man, the man, the man just got paid. First of all, he's the first round, but the man just got paid on the second contract. Right. Still wearing Velcro shoes. Like, bro, you know, you got like $40 million, right? And but that was just Troy. Right. He didn't care nothing about being materialistic. No cars, no nothing. He didn't want anything to do with me and fancy. He wanted to be in the background. Right. Right. So when you got a superstar like that, everybody else in the locker room got a falling line. Yeah. Because this is one of the guys making the most money and not being materialistic. Yeah. So now it's like, dang, when I get my money, man, I wanted to get that guy
Starting point is 00:50:35 dang lambo, but I think I'm gonna get it. But I'm bringing home where I'm from. But when I'm in Pittsburgh, I'm just going to drive up for F-150. Right. He set the tempo. Yeah. He didn't even know it, but he set the tempo. I can understand. So you show up to practice or you show up to the facility and you've got a much nicer car than the best player on your team. You feel kind of like an asshole, right? Oh, yeah. 100% like, Hey, man, you don't have to do that. Like you come to work. You come like, if you want to do that when you go home, wherever you're from, you want to have your fancy cars. Cool. But for me, and I think I can just speak for everybody at the time, T.P. Troy, he kind of just set that, that mode. So him being the leader said that standard off the field,
Starting point is 00:51:22 right off the field. So you can imagine now somebody getting paid and they coming up in the Rolls Royce. Like we thought that was too much. Like if you had a Rolls Royce in Pittsburgh, as a player, we thought you was doing too much. Yeah, you stand out. Yeah, if you had a Lambo in Pittsburgh, blue collar city, we thought you was doing too much. And Casey Hampton, our defensive tackle, he told me something when I was a rookie, he was like, blend in with your city. Don't stand out, blend in with your city. And I understood at that moment when he was talking about like, Hey, man, don't be extravagant and save that. So if you go to Miami, California, or wherever you from, but blend in with the city. That's good advice.
Starting point is 00:52:07 That's good advice. What about Ben? He's obviously come under some heat as being not a great leader. So Richard Mendehall said that he was racist and well known. What was your relationship with Ben? And do you think he, like what type of leader was, was Ben in the locker room? A lot of confidence. You know, this, this what people don't understand about seven. Seven can do a lot of things. I like how you do that. Seven. Yeah. Seven. Seven. I mean, because seven and nine, we was shuffleboard champions in the locker room. That was my teammate. Okay. Okay. We still hold the bill. But seven, just if you ask seven to play one on one, pick up basketball, he gonna smoke you. If you ask him to play ping pong, he gonna smoke you. If you ask him to play golf,
Starting point is 00:52:54 they say he's a scratch golfer. He's gonna smoke you. He just so happened to be good at football. Right. As a quarterback in the NFL, I think it's going on year 16. So seven can do it all. He's one of a few that can do it all. You know, some guys like, okay, you're only just a football player. Right. Seven play any sport he won't play and be good at it. But seven kind of understood that now I had no beef for seven whatsoever. Playing for seven on offense, if you're a receiver or running back, could be a little bit different. But on the defensive side, there's no beef at all. So I didn't did a few sit downs with seven. And seven used to sit out with too many people. Terry Bradshaw after they made a mess. If you don't mess with you, there's no faking
Starting point is 00:53:44 with seven. If I ain't messing with you, I'm not messing with you. There ain't no gray area. Yeah. I'm just one. I'm so petty. Yeah. No, it's a good point because I think there's, it's in today's like with social media and everything, I think that everyone views these teams are like everyone's best friends because you see it a lot, you know, you'll see everyone posting pictures with each other and everything. When a lot of times the locker room of football locker rooms, a lot of fucking people. Right. And there's not not everyone's going to get along. That's 53 alphas. Right. So you got 53 gorillas in the locker room. Boy, that's a lot of testosterone. So you can only imagine every blue moon that locker room going to get torn up.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Be the somebody fight. Well, really, it's going to get torn up from fighting. Period. Yeah. Period. That's just how it was. You knuckle up, you put the boxing gloves on, we're shaking hands out. Who did you fight? Yeah. Man, so many. Man, like for like for real, like it got to a point where Mr. In this was in the locker room and off field. It got to a point where Paparouni on Mr. Dan at the time and Kevin Colbert, they sat me down was like, hey, bro, you do it again. We got to let you go. Really? So who are you fighting with? Just a little bit of it coming from the Orleans. It was like, at the time, I contact and get your
Starting point is 00:55:06 natural beef. So it's a like, I didn't know you. If I didn't know you and you look at me, me and you walking in two different directions. That's why I wear the shades. So if I didn't know you, you didn't know we kind of have beef right now. We're fighting. You just gave me that look. Stop looking at a big cat. We're fighting. We're fighting on site. We're good. Okay. But that's how and I brought that mentality to Pittsburgh, not knowing the position I was in. Like, bro, you're a professional. Like it got you got to stop. So they sat me down one time. And I looked in the eyes and I was like, dang. And then I was just thinking and reflecting like, damn, I'm in a good situation to take care of my mom and family. Like, I can't mess this up.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Right. So I just flip switch and kind of turn everything around. But that's also a good point of it feels like the LeVion Bell Antonio Brown situation escalated where no one sat them down and was like, Hey, we got a good thing going on. What are we doing here? Now people can say what they want to say. The locker room was in the locker room until LeVion left. Like LeVion is the mediator of it. He's somebody you want to have interesting in that locker room. LeVion is somebody you want to have his absence, you think helped accelerate the Antonio Brown stuff 100%. Yeah, LeVion like super competitive. Like when LeVion first came to Pittsburgh, not his first year, but the second year, my body fat was like three, three point two.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And there was like, Oh, somebody got you this year. And I'm like, who LeVion? I said, LeVion, who LeVion? But I said, what's this 2.7 there? That's he's dead saying he's dead if it's 2.9. No, not at all. You don't mind us. What bleep this out, Hank, because I don't want to go on over there. 33%. Okay. I mean, that's probably 45%. You don't have to bleep. So explain to me the mentality about punching a dude while he's wearing a helmet. You don't be thinking you just don't think about it. You just go you just piss. Yeah, it's just I've done that too many times. Yeah, too many times. Like, and they bro, like what you doing? Like, you ain't doing nothing. You're gonna break your hand. Yeah. So by the time you just don't be thinking, man, when it when you're
Starting point is 00:57:20 in the heat of the moment, you don't you don't think at all. How many times did Bill Cower accidentally spit on you? I feel like he spits a lot when he talks. Yeah, I ain't never telling Coach Cow. I ain't never telling him that Coach Cow was he was a player's coach. Like they say he was hard as a coach to work with. But a player's coach. So all this dressing up, going to the airport, showing up in suits. Coach Cow was like, we're going to kick ass and come back home. So y'all don't need to dress up. Right. Now just make sure your pants ain't sagging and you look presentable. But dressing up flip flops, wife beaters, tank tops, pajamas, Troy Paul miles, velcro shoes, velcro, like big
Starting point is 00:58:14 Ben carrying a big sack of P.F. Changs. Didn't nobody coaching him about that. And what about Tomlin versus Cower? Like what was the change like? The change was a little bit, you know, business, business like, you know, that was Coach T a little bit more business like. So two different coaches, same goal. But the personalities were different. Don't get me wrong. Coach T is another player. He's an all the way player's coach. Right. Maybe sometimes too much. People, that's the criticism. 100% like he's, he's going to let you be you. Right. Like Coach T gonna let you be you. He's not putting the leash far as like personalities. He ain't putting that one leash on your personality. Let you be you. That's Coach T. Coach Kyle was like,
Starting point is 00:59:01 when it came to personalities, he did let you know like, I'm gonna let y'all be all, but I'm still alpha. Right. Right. I still run the show. Right. I want you to walk me through something real quick. Seven. This is about Big Ben. There was a press conference he did after one of your games where he got dressed up in my all time favorite quarterback outfit. Let's take a look at this. He looks like a Dick Tracy. Yeah. Dick Tracy. The Fedora down over his face. Dick Tracy takes a Tommy gun and shoots him full bullets. He looks like a Cruella DeVille's lawyer. Yeah. Is the best way I can put it. I love, I love seven, but 70 to come high. Let me when he want to dress up. Yeah. He doesn't have a lot of swag. He was trying a little swagless.
Starting point is 00:59:46 When it come down to dressing up, man, he need to get his suits a little bit more tailored. Do you think does, does seven, can I call him seven or is that only a players can call him seven? Yeah, just call him Big Ben. I'll call him Big Ben. Does Big Ben, does he ever, I don't want to say fake injuries, but sometimes the injuries seem more severe than they actually are like a dog like walking on like a cold sidewalk and it yelps. It's like, come on, you're fine dog. Anything like that. Am I explaining it well? You're explaining it too well. He's tough as hell. There's no other quarterback in the league can play in Pittsburgh the way seven has have played. Now, it's a lot of injuries. Seven shouldn't have played. Yeah. But he's just
Starting point is 01:00:41 a tough, that's what makes seven seven. Just a tough son of a gun. And it's probably a lot of other injuries that seven man, come on, man, stop all that BS. You got the walking boot on like seven like real like we that's that's the road we're going down. That's what we're doing today. That's what we're doing today. Seven like we like, so you're gonna have to boot on on Monday. But Tuesday you're gonna be all good. Yeah. Yeah. It's always up with seven ice facts. What's the boot around like the Michelin man when the boot goes on, you're not nervous. Because you know it's coming off in a day. It's been then please. I got a camera. Yeah, seven. I got you. It's been plenty of times where
Starting point is 01:01:30 he's haven't said anything. And you'd be like, damn, how did he play with that injury? Yeah. And it's been a few times where he's said something. He's always showed that graphic of him after five that would show like the human body and every single part of it had like red lines of pain shooting out of failure. Here's an injury. His whole body was like bang. But that's seven. But we all knew and understood could nobody play that position in Pittsburgh like seven but seven. We're going to be very sad when he tires because he's he's a he's one of the guys who makes football fun. 100%. Yeah. I want to hear a little bit about the the Raven Steelers rivalry because a little birdie named Dave Damsek
Starting point is 01:02:20 told me that you've gotten into it a few times. You and Joey both have gotten into it a few times with T Sizzle and Ray Lewis. Right. Um, yeah. So you know, we hate him. Can I curse? But there might be 12 year old football players listening. I mean, they got to understand coach. I ain't coaching right now. Yeah, that's true. So like, it's a mutual understanding like Pittsburgh hate the fucking Ravens and the Ravens hate fucking Pittsburgh. It's that's the agreement. Like you hate me. Yeah, I hate you. I hate you too. Cool. We good. And you know, one time it was just, you know, T Sizzle. He was getting after me. Like it was doing commercial. That's when I was going up against Derek Mason. The Y received
Starting point is 01:03:18 savvy, savvy, receive savvy. He was Antonio Brown, but slower. Like running routes, he made all this routes look the same. And D Mace was just smooth. So T Sizzle. I remember it was T Sizzle, every shout out to my dog, every co we from the same city, every and Ray Ray them boys on the sidelines is T Sizzle. Just, you know, two four, you know, we coming at you two four, boy, you gonna have a long day two four. Like, yeah, I'm talking to you. Get your stuff up. And I'm like, I'm like, bro, I say, bro, you, I say, you know, they only like you, they as in women, you know, they only like you because you play football, right? That's gotta hurt them. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, bro, you just got to face only a mother.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Right. It's fast. That's fast. That's what I told him. You can get mad. All you want to like, you can say how much money you got. Like, I don't care nothing about that. Because I know if me, you was on the same page. And we started off at the bottom. I'm gonna get the girls. I'm still gonna get them anyway. But I'm gonna get the girls. But he just, he was getting on my nerves on the sideline. Shout out to you, sizzle man. He's still a dog. You're still a dog playing that up. Defensive in outside linebacker. But yeah, he was getting on my nerves with that. Yeah. That's just how it was. Like, I didn't kill it made football great. NFC, the old NFC North rivalries. I mean, I don't, I say old, but they're still going on. But like when the Ravens and
Starting point is 01:04:56 the Steelers played, you knew it was going to be hard hits and guys taking it, you know, to the limit, you knew you was going to be sore going into the following game. Like your mindset, like you can, you can, you can tell the young guys, Hey, this, this kind of game is going to be. But until you can, you can actually hear it on the field. Like, okay, we playing the Ravens. Really different from any other team. Well, Jacksonville at the time Jacksonville. Yeah. Yeah, but Jacksonville and the Ravens at the time when they had Fred T. Byron left, which in all of them boys, JD, right? My dog. Do you ever block you? Did you ever blitz on on the Jaguars? Because he could hit, right?
Starting point is 01:05:44 So I thought, okay, let's get, let's get, let's get the MJD. Mm hmm. MJD red zone coming out the backfield. He catches a pass coming out the backfield. Now his back is turned towards me. I see it because I'm his own coverage. And I'm saying in my head, oh, I'm about to light his ass up. As soon as he turned around and he see me and his eyes get big and they ain't nothing but a step away from it. Eyes get big and I come up and I hit him and my body told me, boy, what you're doing? This is a grown little man. Yeah, this is a grown man. He left a lot of weights. His body feel like lead. Now I'm going on slide down and I slid all the way down on all the way down to his
Starting point is 01:06:36 big ass ankle. So basically I hit him as hard as I can at the right time, the perfect moment. You can ask any defender, as soon as somebody turned around and you right there to smack him in the face, or we call it FaceTime, give it a kiss. Yeah. My wife, I wasn't working. Yeah. Anytime you can do that. And you slide down a person that just let me know how strong he was. Yeah. Dang, that was the perfect opportunity. And he just shook a little bit, just like, bam. Stroke you off. Yeah, like, that's all you got? Yeah. So I just held on to dear life and for help and there was the cavalry came. He's like five, six, like 220 pounds solid. Stout, big, stout. All right. I got one last question. Seekik question put in promo code take you get $10 off your Seekik
Starting point is 01:07:24 purchase. You were a fourth round pick. Correct. I think the idiot Mark Madden said that you were the worst pick that Kevin Colbert ever made. Still got that on my refrigerator. Yep. What was it like though going from a fourth round or like to a small school to the Steelers and the process of trying to like earn your spot and prove to everyone that you're you can stay. I've been doing all my life. So I played I walked on. I was a walk on. Yep. So I was a walk on play running back my junior year my first two years or stats. I had like five, four hundred something yards. Okay. But I barely had carries. Yeah. Barely. First two years of college knucklehead getting in trouble fighting. Like, then my mom called me one day. She this was this was this was changed it. My mom called
Starting point is 01:08:15 me one day because all my grades was going to my mom. So I didn't know that. So she called me one day crying was like a tell me what I did wrong as a parent. That's a heavy line. That's a heavy line. I broke down. Yeah. When she called and told me that I'm like, Dang, single mom, three kids, all the sacrifices I'm taking this for granted. Sheesh. So she once she told me that hung up. I said she would never call me with that again. That's what I told myself. Like, I told myself from here on out. I'm gonna make sure this woman don't ever work a day in her life. That's that's what I told myself. Yeah. Because hearing that coming from mom and seeing all the sacrifices that it cut me it cut me deep. Yeah, that file that went away big cat. That's gonna be
Starting point is 01:09:08 good. That's a heavy technique. That cut me that cut me deep. That cut me deep. So that that changed my life. Then I switched over to a cornerback my senior in a reason why because my DB coach, you know, at the time he was like, Hey, you're not really playing as a running back. But every time I put you on special teams, you hitting. And you're pretty fast. And at the time, Charles Tillman, aka peanut, he was on the other side. Now, I was the shortest DB, because we had two other safeties that's 6364. We had the top five secondary in college at the time. I was the most inexperienced guy, the shortest guy, but that was tall. But he was like, I think you have a pretty good shot. If you come over. So I went over play cornerback for that one year. I wasn't invited
Starting point is 01:10:02 to the combine, but I did go to the hula bow. Okay, to the hula bowl at the time. I don't know if they do that now, but I don't think they do that. They stopped doing it. Yeah, I went to the hula bow, show it out at the hula bow and made I had 27 visits in a month time. So I flew the 2017 27 to the 32 2017 in a month. So I was up and down. Yeah, up and down. Did that Yeah, draft time come. I actually thought the Redskins was gonna get me because they just called me like a that would have been way too smart for that team. They was like, Hey, we, we bought the scoop. You were a little bit. I know Pittsburgh was two slides, two or three slides in front of him. So the Redskins call him. I'm like, and at the time,
Starting point is 01:10:49 I'm playing the game. I'm playing mad because I didn't think I was going to get drafted. Huh. I thought I was going to have to go through, you know, the yeah, undrafted for the whole way and I understood that and I understood why. Excuse me. But Pittsburgh coach T called me. Not coach T. Coach Kyle was like, you ready to be a Pittsburgh stiller? And I'm like, what? He was like, you ready to be a Pittsburgh stiller? We bought the we bought it. We bought it draft you. And I'm like, damn. Yeah. First of all, I'm getting drafted. Second of all, I'm about to be a Pittsburgh stiller because I was still watching the draft. They just they gave up a few draft picks for Troy
Starting point is 01:11:34 at the time. Yeah. It was Alonzo Alonzo played defensive in Florida State. Brian shape here played quarterback for Boston College. Me and JT wall. So that that whole drive class, I think it was just five guys, that whole driver class, only because they reached up to get Troy with me. That's a smart move. Very smart. Very smart. But I've been going to, I've been behind a ball my whole life. So when I get to Pittsburgh, they draft two second round corners after me. So I'm still fighting. Right. So now after the second second round, draft pick, get picked corner wise. Everybody looking at me like, who the man out? Right. Like Daniel on the play corner back for one year. Like we got a talented Ricardo Coakley. Now,
Starting point is 01:12:24 in my opinion, in my opinion, Ricardo Coakley could have been the best, the best corner in the league. In my opinion, you get Brian McFadden from Florida State. So BMAC at the time, Michigan wanted BMAC and BMAC. The only jersey they retired was Charles Woodson from Michigan. If BMAC would have went to Michigan, C Wood was taking his jersey out. So BMAC can wear it. That's how that's how good BMAC was ranked number one at cornerback when he came out. Yeah. So I got those two guys plus little me like, okay, you want to play for one year? No experience. You go that off season. I had it on my mind. I said, not, not today. Like somebody going to be going, that ain't going to be me. Right. Came back in the training camp.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Dickie and my teammates was like, he the one. Like, he the one. Like this, this dude, we didn't, we don't know what happened. We don't know what transpired over the off season. But yeah, he the one. He the one. And it changed. So when I seen a Mark Madden, that really motivated me. Like a bro, what you saying? Like, I've been going through this all my life, man. All I know is my back against the wall. Yeah. You can't hurt me like my mom hurt me. Yeah. It doesn't really matter when your mom calls and says what I do, what I do wrong as a parent. Mama called me that and told me that like boohoo crime. Yeah. And I'm thinking something happy. Look, did I know all my grades was going to. So if your grades, if you had just figured
Starting point is 01:14:12 out that to get your grades to your dorm room, you might not even be sitting here right now. Yeah. Yeah. Or if you had gotten better grades, you wouldn't be sitting here right now. Maybe now it's probably the first one. Also, if Mark Madden is criticizing your athletic ability, I think you're probably doing something right because he's, he's not exactly what I call going to live very long. Yes. Right. Yeah. He just got into his hand. That's what he does. That's what he does. He doesn't do it with us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why? For no reason. Because we're in such better shape than he is. 100%. 33% body fat right here. He's like 70. Now you go, keep going. Go up. Yeah, probably. Yeah. 95. He actually has a great, well, I don't want to like give him too
Starting point is 01:14:52 much publicity or airtime. But if you look at his Google image search, if you type in Mark Madden, it's just him wearing like Tommy Bahama, Hawaiian shirts and strippers. Or like wrestling matches. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Yeah. That is the coolest part about him. Yeah. Enough about that guy. We talked about the Mike Vanderjack episode. We talked about the Jerome Bettis Fumble. We talked about the Superbowl. You've accomplished a lot of things. I do need to ask you about Tebow Mania and that play against, well, Tebow didn't beat you as much as Damaris Thomas did, right? It wasn't Tebow. It was DT. Like DT gave me a mean ass stuff. Oh, I'm like, like, and I saw it. I saw it coming. I see him look over because Ryan Mundy was I saved. I see Ryan Mundy come down. So I'm like,
Starting point is 01:15:42 okay, I know what's about to happen. Slid in, knew the slant was coming. I was like, I just need to get him down. Try to get him down. They hit me with the main one. Yeah. So it's hard to go full stride, restart your engine and try to catch up with a guy who ran a full three. We tell him about a young DT. Yeah. A young DT. So it's big too. Like there's a lot of power behind that. 225. Ain't that small about DT? So DT, but everybody was like Tebow Mania. And I'm like, I mean, it was, it was Tebow Mania. You got got by Tebow Mania is the capstone of his career. 100%. That's how I remember you. That was DT. Yeah. But you know, it's perfect pass in stride by Tebow. I took that locker room up. I don't know how much came out my check.
Starting point is 01:16:34 But I told that I told that locker room because I'm like, damn, Tebow beach. I just know I never said Tebow. You knew that that highlight was going to chase you around for a while. You're still not come to grips with the fact that Tebow beat you. I'll play longer than him. One, two, about like that day. He beat you. He beat you. I'm that guy. Also, Dickie, he hung you out to dry on that play. You didn't have a lot of help. No, I know he didn't. A little bit. Not at all. Ryan Clark did. Because he couldn't play in the altitude, right? Not it. That's how I play. Like, I didn't play with any help. Like, I never asked the safety for help. Like.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Like Island. 100%. Yeah. 100%. Like, I was really dead, motherfucking guy. Like, y'all got me twisted. Like, I was, I was really dead guy. Hey, sometimes gun fighters get shot in that day. They got me. Yeah. That's, that's, and it just happened to be Tebow. When you say it like that, it actually sounds cool. That sounds very sometimes gun fighters get shot in the fuck. That sounds like, thank you so much, man. It's been awesome, man. Appreciate it. Welcome back anytime. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on and congrats on the two Super Bowls and also making your mom proud. Thank you. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Thanks for
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Starting point is 01:21:19 by. We definitely have him on again. Yes. Recurring guests. Let's start with a PR 101 for the man who the internet loves to dunk on. It is Darren Ravel. He had quite the Sunday, quite the Easter Sunday. It started with the LSU gymnastics team tweeting out, thank you, Baton Rouge. It was a billboard. Now, it was one of those electronic billboards. Not very hard to put up there. It said 2019 NCAA Gymnastics National Runner-Up. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. Okay. Darren Ravel said, no. You can't put up a billboard for coming in second. Ratio 1.1, 1,000 replies, 223 retweets and got dragged all day. The world's best sports bar turned on Darren. People found out, people found the time that he got his shoes gold-plated for
Starting point is 01:22:24 finishing like 3,000th in the Chicago Marathon. Now, he wants it to be known that he didn't actually gold-plate himself. Nike did it for him. Without his knowledge. Without his knowledge. No idea that it was happening. No idea. We also found the hilarious tweet, Alex Restrepo, who is a friend of the program, found the tweet where Darren Ravel said, my story on Joe Flacco's post-contract McDonald's meal was the second most red ESPN headline story yesterday. Celebrating second. So Darren basically, like the whole internet was like, dude, shut the fuck up because what Darren did was he thought he had gotten the like tides correct. He read the tides and was like, hey, people don't like participation trophies. They
Starting point is 01:23:08 don't like celebrating second place. I'm about to fucking show them. I'm big bad Darren and I too don't think that second place matters. This is what happens when you take the Disney handcuffs off Darren. He gets out on his own. He gets to unleash the takes that change the world. And he said he was doing it for the kids too. No, his kids. His kids. Yeah. So his kids could see him insulting the runners up of women's gymnastics. So what he failed to, and people obviously, if you're sitting here and you're like, hey, aren't you the guys that made fun of the Colts banner that says second place? Well, it wasn't. Yeah. It was AFC finalist finalists. Yes. And yes, we did make fun of that because that is a professional sports team. You know, they have a Super Bowl trophy.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Very, very strange to then celebrate finalists when you have something that you've achieved in your past and then to celebrate coming up fourth. Well, or whatever. I also think a big part of that one was that it said finalist, but they finished in fourth place. Right. So it's like the finalist of half the final. Right. And it's professional athletes. What Darren forgets to realize here. And it's Jim Mercer. So you have to imagine that he was heavily involved in the process to design the banner. So these are college athletes. Get paid nothing. This is Unless it's Duke. Highest. Yes. Unless it's Duke Zion. This is the highest that LSU gymnastics, the female gymnastics team has ever finished. Really cool for them. Big season for them.
Starting point is 01:24:33 That I think they had two people on the team, two women on the team actually win national championships individually. So it's the community basically saying, good job, guys. We're very proud of you. Not on Darren. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. He got dragged left and right. Like, who the fuck cares about a billboard of like celebrating runner up? Like, that's a cool accomplishment. You're you're you're again, you are college athletes. You don't get paid. It's not like we celebrate final fours. We sell. You know what I mean? Like final fours are pretty fucking cool. Listen, when you grow up bull victories, when you grow up as as an incredible athlete such as Darren did, and you have all the championships to show for it, it must chap your
Starting point is 01:25:13 ass to be like, Hey, these people are celebrating second place. And I accomplished all this stuff. I didn't get a billboard when I won states in high school football when I was a big bad jock, when I excelled in every sport that I ever participated in since a young age. So I'm okay with I'm okay with gatekeepers for the generation of participation trophy receivers as long as those gatekeepers are themselves elite athletes like Darren. Right. So I'm fine with Darren being the guy. So here's the tweet that he finished today. He went basically all day without tweeting. And and you know what? I want to give Darren just a little bit of credit last week. We will know hear me out Hank. Last week, we had Tiger Woods bring all Twitter together. This week,
Starting point is 01:25:54 we had Darren Revelle bring all of Twitter together in their hate for Darren Revelle. It was a really nice moment. It's like community building to dunk on Darren Revelle. I think what would made it even better was that it was on Easter. Yes, everyone stopped like hold on, hold on Nana and Papa. I got I got a fucking tweet a gift at Darren Revelle here showing how much of an idiot he is. You don't understand Nana. Darren's real out of pocket online. I got a handle this. So it's very rare for him to go all day without doing like a true tweet. He was responding to everyone. That's the first sign that you've been owned to respond to every single person basically being like, no, that was different. The gold plated shoes. I didn't do. I finished.
Starting point is 01:26:31 That was a personal accomplishment. I finished fucking. Dude, he literally talks about his marathon running like every day and he runs like a four hour marathon. So this is the most not owned, owned tweet of all time. He finished it with what an incredible platform this is that allows people to passionately express how they feel about topics and issues and debate those takes no matter where or who you are. Today was a great example. This was just a great day for the discourse is what it was. The only the only thing that would have been better is if he had said that this was a giant social experiment to see how people would react. And I wouldn't put it past Darren to do that at some point. Oh man. And what really made me like feel very warm
Starting point is 01:27:12 inside on the high holiday smile on my face was just imagining as Darren's getting dunked on and him saying they did it for his kids, him sitting his own children down and explains them why daddy put out a tweet mocking the runners up in the NCAA gymnastics competition and explaining why it was for their own good and trying to impart a life lesson. They're like, dad, I don't, you signed me up for a Twitter account when I was born. I've never used it. I don't want this. I don't want this. I don't want this. Why were you bullying a bunch of teenage girl women who don't get paid? Cool. Cool, Darren. Cool guy, Darren. Thanks, daddy. A great, a great discourse on the platform. Yeah. Tremendous day for the discourse. That really shows all time. This is what Twitter
Starting point is 01:27:54 really could be. That's going to be his tweet tomorrow. This is why I keep reinvesting stock in Twitter because of how bad I got dunked on. You know, Jack, instead of fasting for two days without like eating any food whatsoever, I challenge you to take two days without reading any of Darren Revelle's tweets. I think that would be much harder. Just block them. Yeah. No, suspend Darren Revelle for a week, dude. Could you imagine? You know what? There's certain people in this world that the internet should be taken away from for the rest of their lives. I would say Darren is pretty high up on that list. Pretty high up. Darren's knocking on the door. Yes, he absolutely is. Hey, once the cuffs came off on ESPN, you're a bad boy. The internet is,
Starting point is 01:28:31 it's not for everybody. Yes, it is not. All right. Next up, we have a Connected Dots PFT. You have this. Yeah. So I'm not a conspiracy guy. We're Connected Dots guys. I want to state that up front. But I read an article on ESPN last week about Greg Popovich, right? And about how he has been the leagues leading wine guy for the last 25 years. Okay. And how he's... Wine-ing or wine? Wine is in like a sheesh, sheesh wine. Both kind of. Both. Well, he doesn't wine. He just stares at reporters and doesn't answer the questions and then they wind about it later. But he has been going out to these very fancy restaurants, taking his team out. Anybody that he's in contact with ever, whether it's U.S. basketball, anybody that goes out to dinner with Popovich is getting
Starting point is 01:29:15 $10,000, $20,000 worth of wine purchased for them. He's a big lush. He likes spreading the gospel of wine around. Now Connected Dots here. It doesn't sound... Correct. Why? He just buys people $10,000 worth of wine all the time. When you're going out for dinners with him, yeah, he will buy the shit out of wine at a restaurant. Okay. I think what he did was he tried to get, and he succeeded at getting this current crop of superstars addicted to wine so that he can continue on his legacy in San Antonio. He's been dominating the NBA for what, the last 20, 20 years, 23 years, something like that. I truly think that he uses it as an advantage to be like, I'm going to turn LeBron James into an alcoholic so my San Antonio
Starting point is 01:30:01 Spurs can still look like we're still in dynasty mode. Yes. He basically took down LeBron's career. Yes. So I don't think you're wrong here. And he also made Mellow retire at the height of his career. Yep. And Dwayne Wade has also retired to become a wine drinker. That's what I'm guessing. No, that's what he's going to do. Well, the other team in Texas, wine drinker, booty eater, and Budweiser seller in his commercials. Yes. So I think you're spot on. Pop has taken the NBA down from within. LeBron James has gotten played. He always said he wants to play with, he wants to play for Pop. He really just wants to drink with Pop. They just want to get drunk together. Yes. This is his last, his last like hurrah. Pop's last hurrah in the NBA is to just get
Starting point is 01:30:46 every good player addicted to the shish. That'd be so awesome if LeBron finished his career in San Antonio and he would, they would just like be sipping on wine during games and LeBron would get like wine drunk and start crying while he shouldn't free throws just out of emotion. And missing. Yeah. He misses the free. Maybe, maybe it's like Peter Griffin. He starts getting drunk at games. He starts making his free throws. Oh, yeah. Give a shot LeBron. Yeah. LeBron's, he's, he's, he can't be worse. Can't be worse at them. Okay. Let's wrap up. We have Monday reading then we'll do Game of Thrones recap. We'll keep that towards the end so that we won't do any spoilers if you have not watched, but the Monday reading, Danny Amidola had himself a weekend. He's actually
Starting point is 01:31:26 high up on the list of people who should get the internet taken away from him for at least, he should be suspended from the internet. He certainly is. So there was, I guess, how did it start? There was a rumor that there was a picture of his on again off again girlfriend Olivia Coppo with dancing with Zed, who's a DJ and they're dancing together at Coachella. Yes. So, uh, the normal reaction would be I am a very wealthy wide receiver in the NFL. I have Super Bowl rings. I'm very good looking. I don't really care. The reaction that Danny Amidola went with was, uh, first he, he did a video where he was watching the scene from Pulp Fiction where Zed is dead. That's the line. Zed is dead and him just flexing his abs while he's watching it in bed.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Okay. That's pretty normal. Normal. And then he, he wrote great abs. He create abs. Oh, I mean, he's a fucking, he's very, very attractive guy, but then he went online and he had this Instagram post. Bad facial hair guy though. Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. It's just not Julian Edelman. Julian Edelman is, that's the problem. Danny Amidola next to Julian Edelman is like he loses all his powers because Jules got the best facial hair in the game. I'm just saying all right. So this is what Danny Amidola wrote. This is our Monday reading. I believe there should be a boundary between private life and social media. Olivia believes in fishbowl lifestyle. This fundamental difference was huge in our relationship.
Starting point is 01:32:50 If you're my real friend, you know, I'm private. My brother, my mother, father and nephew are closest to me in this world and you don't see one picture of them. And that's for their protection from those who criticize and judge. I think that's totally fair. So far he is on track. Good posts. Unfortunately, we have a lot more to go. I believe in nailing picture frames on the inside of my house to remind the ones I love that I care. Olivia chooses and wants to be noticed on the internet in Hollywood to make money. She is, by the way, a model. Yeah, that's her job, which he knew going in. It's tough to be a model when the only people that can see your pictures are the people that are currently inside your house.
Starting point is 01:33:29 I'm actually the best model in the world inside my house. Yeah. Leroy thinks I'm a perfect model. So it was, which was hard for me to understand, but quickly had to learn. Whereas the cost of fame in this world doesn't appeal to me. I play ball for one reason and that's respect. I feel like that's why he's in Detroit right now. Yeah, he plays it for money and whatever. Respect. The only reason I'm writing this post is because whether I liked it or not, we live in a public eye. Some of it is amazing. I've met some of the nicest people from all over the world and Olivia and I had some amazing times together. Just like any other loving relationship we fought. Oh, okay. So we're bringing this online. Okay. A lot of the time it was my fault,
Starting point is 01:34:11 because let's be honest, I can be an idiot, but knew there was a but. Yup. She's fucked up too. And if you cross me, I'm a hard motherfucker to deal with. Sounding a little creepy there, Danny. The universe brought her and I together to enjoy life, love and learn. We celebrated that as often as we could and the sex was fucking crazy too. That's hot. It was pretty hot. Yeah. Really hot. But I go back to the first paragraph where he was like, I like to keep everything offline and then we've something a matter of sentences here. We're now talking about his sex. Yeah. This, it sounds like he might have partaken in some extracurricular activities before sitting down to write this one. Yeah. Okay. So she gets so mad at me for not posting her on social media,
Starting point is 01:34:55 but I think this shit is sometimes fake, sometimes toxic, but sometimes beautiful. I don't know what to make of that. Again, this actually, this actually sounds like the Tampa Bay Lightning letter that they wrote to their fan, that tweet that they put out after I lost. That's the tone. No words. Stop it. No words. Yeah. I have no words, but let me, let me get into my sex life with Olivia real quick. And I felt like she had enough pictures online anyway. She is her model. That is her job. Truth is, I have a whole cell phone of funny, embarrassing, sexy picks. IG would love to have. That sounds like extortion, brother. Yes. However, living a public image isn't my choice. It's something I've learned to deal with. Reading all these wild stories about
Starting point is 01:35:35 her and I and seeing Olivia with other men. I just wanted to personally clear the air out there. We've been on and off for a long time and not together as of late. Not sure what's in the future, but the only thing I care about is her happiness. That's what this sounds like. That's very nice. Yeah, it's very nice. And if that's dancing with scrawny little fuck, so be it. That's the best two senses ever. Her happiness is paramount. And as these little fuck boys that she's fucking, fuck them. Listen, nobody likes to see your ex-girlfriend dancing with somebody, but if you have to see it, it better be with a fucking loser like this guy. Here's what you should do. Be like a normal dude, lock yourself in a room for a week, listen to
Starting point is 01:36:19 the cure, write some poetry, say you're going to start a band, never actually get around to it, then come out the other side of looking normal. Just like, you should be hanging out with Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia to me seems like a great bounce back guy to hang out with. Yes. Just like your big furry guy that's always slapping you on your chest, like getting you involved. Any little dick hit. I don't want to think about Danny like this. I prefer to think of my Danny Amondola when he was in Better Times wrapped up inside Gronk's coat. Yes. Like a little cloak, a little love nest for the two of them, looking into each other's eyes. That's who he should be with. All right, here's the end. I'm happy too. I believe him. With that said,
Starting point is 01:36:58 live my beautiful ex-girlfriend Providence Finest and Bakers Bay Pancakes. Carry on IG. So yeah, that was a lot. That was a lot. That was a lot. And I feel like every person has been in this spot in life where it's like, hey, I don't want to see, you don't want to see your ex hanging out with other people. You just should have taken your advice from the very first paragraph of being like, I don't want to put everything out on social media. Stop. Yeah, good. I actually think this probably helped out a lot of stuff with Danny, because it had the potential to be on again, off again thing, like recurring for the next six months, year, whatever. They're probably going to hook up again at some point until he put this
Starting point is 01:37:41 online. Yes. Now they're definitely not going to get back together. No. So it ended it. It actually very conveniently ended it for him. That's true. Which will, that'll be good for him in the long run. All right. So it's good because that was it. That was all he posted, right? Okay, good. Oh. Oh, wait. No, he posted more. So yeah, he deleted it. He deleted that. Shortly. And then he posted a picture of him smiling, dancing. This was over the course of a few days too. So he really like worked out. I'm not mad. And then he posted a follow up with a lion and said, what I meant to say yesterday was that the media in general public have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. I don't put, you know, blah, blah, blah, good. You don't know
Starting point is 01:38:17 how great and wild our sex is. Yeah, you have no idea. And then he posted, people won't often remember what you said. They will remember how you made them feel. That seems like that's a shot of Olivia. And then he said, uh, another one that just said fake people have an image to maintain the real ones just don't care. I don't think he cares. Danny's like the most athletic eighth grader. That's where his brain is that of like a 12 year old that, that, uh, dance with a girl to Casey and Jojo at his middle school dance, got a little bit too big of a boner and then won't let it go. Listen, I'm not canceling Danny Amondola. Uh, you know, he's, he, I'm just not gonna, I'm not, this isn't cancelable offense. I just know that guess what? No one is regretting
Starting point is 01:39:00 this more than Danny Amondola when he wakes up on Monday morning. He's like, whoa, that was a weekend. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Whoops. I should have put my phone down. Is this what happens when you just wake up and you realize I'm going to be in Detroit for the next year? And I just lost Miss Universe. That's the thing. It's like, she, you know, yeah, yeah. I like to explore more of the opportunity of, of developing a modeling career that doesn't involve getting pictures taken of yourself. Yes. So, you know, it's a mind's eye model. Danny Amondola, you'll, you'll pick up the pieces. You'll be fine. You got, uh, does he have two Super World rings? One Super World two? He got millions of dollars. You're a very good looking dude. Your best friend is Julian Edelman. That's like one of the
Starting point is 01:39:37 best, best friends you could ever have. And he's, he's perfectly average height, perfectly average height. He has, he's also got all the time in the world to party with Gronk right now. Right. Gronk should just go, if Gronk isn't on a plane to wherever you think he's in Detroit right now, probably, if he's not on a plane to Detroit, then I've really underestimated Rob Gronkowski. Yes. For boys weekend. And here's the ultimate spin zone. Danny, if you're listening, you can, you've already done the most regrettable thing you can do online. It's over. So you can't go lower. It's like most people are like waiting for that moment. Like, oh, what if I just fuck up and start pouring my heart out and talking about how crazy the sex was and, uh, saying I want to beat
Starting point is 01:40:18 up scrawny fucks. I think he can go lower. Okay. I believe in Danny. We're trying to pick him up here, but I believe in him. Okay. He's always been known as like a hard worker. Yeah. Um, I think that maybe goth amandola, goth Danny. We're going to laugh about this. This is going to all be hilarious. Like one day we're just going to be like, remember that time you lost your mind and just posted a shitload of Instagrams being really mad because your ex-girlfriend was dancing with a scrawny DJ? Yes. It's very tough. Good times. Uh, all right. Let's wrap up. If you haven't watched Game of Thrones, there will be spoilers here. Little Game of Thrones recap. Hank, why don't you start? Turn around on the downpour of stone.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Spend away your sorrow and pain. And you never wanted to leave. Never wanted to leave. Never wanted to leave. Never wanted to leave. Why don't you start, Hank? Uh, I thought it was a good episode. It kind of felt like it was episode one, part two. Yes. So there's a lot of reunions, a lot of jokes. It was, yeah, everyone was in a good mood. It's like my draft version 1.2. Yeah. Everyone was a good
Starting point is 01:42:21 mood joking around before they die. Yeah. I was nervous all the time thinking like something was going to happen. Uh, I thought it was a great episode. The one thing that I was hoping like Bran said what the Night King's intentions were and like his whole thing is flashbacks. I was hoping they were going to show like what are one of the neckings intentions, like Tyrion sat with them and was like, what's your deal? I thought they were going to like go back in time. Like it was a 60 minute episode. I thought they could have like cut down some of like the jokes and like, oh no. See, I think at least done. I like just saying that this is what the Night King wants. I thought they could have at least like shown it and done a little
Starting point is 01:42:55 bit of a better job like showing why the fuck this dude is coming to Winterfell with a million undead zombies. That's a classic writer's trick where they make you get extra attached to everyone right before they die. Yeah. Also like this guy was really fun. What it showed me is like a city under siege where everything's unlocked down. That becomes a giant locker room. Yeah. So like all is fair. Like there was that one, the beefy red-haired guy, Tormund, who just was trying to get laid and drink titty milk all the time. He's Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. He was just sucking that giant breast milk out of the horn. What a story. And just trying to have sex with anybody. Yeah. The whole city is just locker room talk. Yeah. I enjoy that a lot. I noticed that you guys got
Starting point is 01:43:32 kind of grossed out when that girl had sex. Okay. So Aria. Aria having sex was, I was not looking forward to that. She is, she like basically has grown up on the show and she started on the show as like a 10 year old. Okay. That's tough. So it's like, and she still is seen as like a little girl even though I think the real actress is 22, but like it was weird. I didn't need it. Now that's tough for us. But if you started watching when you were 10 years old at the same time as her, like you, and she grew up as you were growing up, then that was probably the coolest thing ever. It's like when I was 15, I really liked Alicia Silverstone, who's also 15. And we grew up together and she probably definitely felt that connection with me just like I felt it with her. I also
Starting point is 01:44:15 liked the callback how in the first episode, Ned and King Robert were like, let's join houses, thinking it was going to be Sansa and fucking Joffrey. Yep. Then it finally came around full circle. Arya and Jenry, which probably means that Jenry is going to die. Arya is going to get pregnant. Oh, yeah. All right. So now I really can't deal with it. No, I think she is going to be pregnant. I think, wait, what if she's pregnant? In this show, basically, if you have sex like that, you're pregnant. Yeah. What if she's pregnant in real life and they had to write it into the show? She's not. No, as like an 18 year old. That'd be wild. She's 22. That'd be wild. My question, I noticed this today. So like last week, I had a bunch of questions about like the
Starting point is 01:44:51 fires that were burning out everywhere. This one is just like their general hygiene. It looks like the smelliest place on earth. Oh, yeah. Everyone's breasts stinks. Do they not? Do they not shower? No. Bath. The rich people bathe, the poor people just live in shit. They just deal with the smell. Everyone smells like shit. So nobody does. No one does. So it actually probably doesn't smell bad because that's all you know is that everyone smells like pig shit. Okay. They also didn't show the niking and like the next time on, which might mean that, you know, he's pulling a Hezzie Hay. He's Hezzie Hay. Jamie is awoke liberal. He knighted Sir Brianne. He's a white knight. That was just a flex on toilet. Literally white knighted. Big time white knight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:32 That like, can you believe it? A night? Oh, female knight in my life time could never happen. Joining the legendary warriors such as who Sean Connery, Mick Jagger, who else has been knighted? Ben Kingsley. Yep. Prince. Prince. Prince was knighted. That's confusing. I mean, I assume he was. That would be extremely confusing. The night prince. That was actually an awesome moment though, because Sir Brianne, the smile on her face. I think that like fights actually pointed out. I think that was actually the first time someone smiled on the entire show. What if chair rider got knighted and he became knight rider? That would be sick. That would be awesome. That would be real sick. Can I do that as a minister? Can I knight somebody? Nope. I've also, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:46:11 unminister you as soon as I can. No, you can't. What else? Oh, I wrote down, oh, Jon Snow telling his aunt that they've been fucking. That was a wild one. Twitter user, I think it's at big business. He said Danny acted like Brianne was a crisp, bizarre dog. He did. She did. She was like, you're going to believe that fucking guy? That's the other thing that I've been hoping was going to happen was so remember the two kids that went with Brianne to the wall and three out of Raven and all that shit. Their dad was the dude that stabbed the knight that was with Ned Stark. Remember they're in the fight and he looked like he's going to lose and then that guy, his friend stabbed the guy in the back and ran up to the tower
Starting point is 01:46:50 to get Jon Snow. So that guy's still alive. It's those two kids dad. So he can come in like verify everything. He's still like alive. He's out there so far. He's alive in the world and I'm hoping that in these first two episodes, like he was going to come and be like, no, like this is legit. So I'm still hoping that happens. But that was another like, I thought it was a good episode, but those two things were a little bit like of a letdown. It's going to be a huge episode next week. Everyone's going to die. Jorah is going to die in the ultimate friend zone. That guy, that guy probably, how many times do you think Jorah has jerked off to Khaleesi? Since the first season.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Hundreds, thousands. Seven seasons. He's just been following Khaleesi Daenerys around and being like her right hand man, but he secretly just wants to fuck her. Oh, her hand. Her hand. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But she's like, no dude. You're two old heroes. Yeah, he's been with her as she's had like seven boyfriends.
Starting point is 01:47:43 He's had, he's had the perfect seasons of friends zone. She's playing that exactly right. Like getting his testosterone all the way up, making him be horny all the time. That's what you want your defender to be. Right. So he's just been jerking it to her like every single time he's off camera. And now he's going to die without ever, without, without ever feeling that. Without ever feeling a woman's warmth. Yes, exactly. So yeah, it's going to be a crazy episode. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Jon Snow, I feel like Daenerys did not take that news well that she is not the rifle air. She took it about as well as you could have expected. Like, well, that's, it is kind of like, oh, your best friend and your weird ass brother. Like maybe she was happy that he was the air, but she was sad that she wasn't going to get ticked down anymore. Oh, they're still going to get ticked down. That's not going to stop them. Oh, no. The Targaryen tradition. That actually, in a weird way, I think it makes it even hotter for them.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I mean, their whole like family thing is like not, not muddying the blood lines. Yeah, okay. So fucking like incest is occurring now. It is kind of, it is kind of funny what Game of Thrones does to your brain, where it's like the 22 year old girl that you saw grow up. You're like, no, don't fuck. And then the, and nephew and then the brother and sister, you're like, fuck yes, that's hot. Wait. So, so they're sisters or they, that's aunt and nephew.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Yeah. He's fucking his aunt. He's fucking his aunt. All right. That's better than brother, sister. Yeah. Cersei and Jamie have created four children together. Okay. Nice. They're twins. So hot as fuck. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:49:03 All right. That's our show. I think we covered everything. Oh, Bran still weirdo. He just says weird shit. He's like, he just like, it just should be record scratch every time he says something. I'm still very woke on Bran. Oh, I think that Bran is going to, he's either going to kill him. He's going to kill somebody. He could be the Night King. He's like trying to do this thing where he's like, have the Night King meet me by myself out in the middle of the wood somewhere
Starting point is 01:49:25 so we can make some secret treaty and I'll come and I'll kill the fuck out of all of you people. Also, one last thing, all time, shitty situation for Theon gets his dick cut off, comes back to Winterfell and Sansa starts giving him the eyes and he's got no dick. That's very true. He literally left, she was too young, comes back, she's like, oh, you're hot Theon. And he's like, well, about that, I actually got my dick cut off like four seasons ago. That was a dude that was up on the roof. He was with Sansa. He said he would defend her, the ironborn.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Okay. He came back. He's got no dick. No dick. Got it cut off. That's a tough break. But Bran's still got the balls though, right? I don't think he got everything cut off. So it sucks.
Starting point is 01:50:06 But he literally came back and then she could just play with his balls for a while. The hottest chicken Winterfell wants to suck it and it's like there's nothing there. Yeah, there's just gray worm scissor sash. Just scissor with the balls? If he's doing a gray worm did. Well, if he's smart, he takes it all the way. You know what I mean? Like he sees if like they were like, oh, I could have had her.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Like don't tell her that you don't have a dick until the last possible last second. And then yeah, it's too late. Oh, fuck. I forgot to mention. Oh shit. You know what? I forgot my dick. Wouldn't you know it?
Starting point is 01:50:32 I didn't bring it. Let me go back. Hey, do you want to get my dick? Do you want to peg me instead? All right. That's our show. We'll see everyone Wednesday. Draft, big draft show coming on Wednesday to get you ready for the NFL draft.
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