Pardon My Take - 3X Super Bowl Champion Willie McGinest + Week 1 Recap
Episode Date: September 10, 2018The fastest 2 minutes are back. Week 1 recap, the Bears broke Big Cat's heart (2:27 -13:37) Andrew Luck is back, Ryan Fitzpatrick torched the Saints, and the Browns tied a football game (13:37 - 28:13...). Football guy of the week including Larry Fedora's memory hole and Syrup Coach (28:13 - 35:49). Who's back of the week (35:49 - 43:25). 3X Super Bowl Champion Willie McGinest joins the show to talk about his career in the NFL, playing for Bill Belichick, being friends with Snoop Dogg, and predictions for the 2018 Football Season (43:25 - 71:25). Talking Tennis, Serena Williams in the US Open, Hermatology Herm Edwards is actually good? And our newest segment "Whats the Beef" where we get an explainer on KD vs Lebron, Eminem vs Machine Gun Kelly, Cardi B vs Nikki Minaj. Plus a bonus embrace debate for football watching sundays. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's pardon my take, we have former Patriot and Cleveland Brown, great Willie
McGinnis.
He works for the NFL Network.
He is an awesome interview.
We talked about his career with Belichick, Snoop Dogg, who he likes this year.
Really fun time with Willie.
He was in studio, so you know it was good.
We got Football Guy of the Week.
We have Week 1 Recap.
We have Who's Back of the Week.
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home spread we start in Cleveland it was a stormy Daniel's day as both teams
were getting pissed on by mother nature all afternoon Mike Avenatti Tomlin
couldn't keep his client Ben Rottlesberger from turning over sensitive
material as Tyrod Taylor Swift and the Browns have a history of bad blood
against the Steelers today was Hugh Michael Jackson's day though as he loves
the man in the mirror because that man is now 1 31 and one in his last two
seasons plus the Browns didn't lose a football game don't let Cleveland get
hot Steelers 21 Cleveland also 21 in Minnesota we may have to hold off on a
certain quarterbacks Hall of Fame induction as the 49ers couldn't find
the Jimmy G spot turns out spinning the offseason focusing on scoring in the
pink zone instead of the red zone doesn't make for great football teach
Minnesota's offensive line bought a Kirkland signature Cousins amount of
time in the pocket as the Vikings put a wholesale beating on the Niners defense
no need to murder any dolls this week Mike Zimmer the Vikings are often running
24-16 is that huh check my glasses teach am I seeing this right Andrew Lucky's
back you got damn right boom Frank two wrongs don't make a right as his first
game against the Cincinnati Bungles at home and Clayton
bed pendulum has swung on the Colts season as he whoops picks up the fumble
and the not going to get him Bengals 34 Colts 24 the Patriots machine starts
another season off in Boxborough as Rex twerkhead was shown the Texans
defense has asked all day as he ran away from their secondary and Rob
Gronkowski spiked the football like it was a Gatorade container full of
jungle juice my good friend hoody once said time why you punish me well that
may be true for the rest of us mortals but Tom keeps putting up beating on time
and stop me if you've heard this before but the Patriots win 27 to 20 the
spark in Baltimore so they turn to Nathan J. Peterman who cataloged another
awful half a football filling the stat sheet with pointless dribble nobody
circles the urban sombrero like the Buffalo Bills it's going to be a long
season in Western New York as Joe camel cool flakko smoked the bills defense to
the tune of 47 three hey Swami bird fact Ravens don't have bills they have
beaks thanks for the bird back to each
in LA the San Diego superchargers and the chiefs tangled as Tyreek Hillary
Clinton burned LA's secondary like it was an incriminating email server say it
ain't so but Phillip Rivers Cuomo was left wheezing Anthony Michael Flynn
pled guilty to being run over by the Kansas City Commander-in-Chiefs and the
LA fans are asking the charges to resign sir sir resign sir sir resign sir
after another slow start to the season sir sir to the metal ends we go where
two celebrities were feuding again as Cardi B. Ordles beat Eli Nicki Minaj ring
with his arm and his shoes running for 42 yards
safe one on a monopee of Barkley rumble then stumble then bumble for a late
score to cut it to five but I can see for miles and miles and miles Jack had a
long touchdown of his own and the Jaguars ball the New York football
Giants 20 to 15
the Broncos panic this offseason and John Oway pulled the alarm and broke the
quarterback glass in case of keen urgency Emmanuel Sandstorm went
435 yards to the TD as the Broncos holdoff on the Seahawks 27-21 hey boom
yeah teach Jake butt get it good one teach finally we go to North Carolina
where Norb Turner's new offense left the Cowboys asking skull emoji skull emoji
skull emoji who did this cam Dak streets back all right
and the panther six bye bye bye to the Cowboys first game of the season Dallas
16 Panthers six I think you switch that up boom Panther 16 Dallas six still got
it all right it's the preseason for boomer too so week one we are here is
good to be back it's great to be back we're taping this at halftime of the
Bears Packers game and Cleo Mack is maybe the greatest linebacker of all time
Aaron Rodgers is dead and the game's over so everything's good right it feels
like a pivotal era in the Bears history where it's like everything's gonna be
good from this point forward it's half time past is the past 20 you guys have
exercised the ghosts of fourth downs past Chris Conti is not walking through
that door this defense is different this defense is not gonna let the Packers
get behind him for a last-minute score they are coming to play they are playing
with discipline and Aaron Rodgers he might not play another down a football
here's the thing they're Cleveland and fucking Pittsburgh tied today like we
should have started with that and then Aaron Rodgers I just I fucking hate him
I like there's nothing that there is nothing that can be done he was dead he
was done he like and I didn't even did the whole like I feel bad guys and I put
out a tweet which I probably the worst tweet of all time when I said I want to
beat a healthy Aaron Rodgers this Bears defense could beat anyone you know what
you were your virtue signaling you didn't mean that I didn't you didn't you
just put it out there so people be like oh wow big cat such a gracious winner I
really want to cause you're not a gracious winner you just wanted to put
that out yeah I don't win so I do feel bad for you I feel bad but I think it's
also important in in our profession to have enemies and you have an enemy dude
Aaron Rodgers is your enemy I had Sidney Crosby but not anymore because he's a
loser we stomp the shit out of him so forget about that Hank Scott well I
guess as a Boston fan you don't really hate his enemies his bookie because he
lost because he bet against the Bears my five skull NFC Northlock of the year you
idiots thanks to me it's chocolate milk yeah it's got chocolate anyway I mean
listen you seem upset I there was there was like no way that that could happen
and then it happened that's the thing 20 to nothing like Aaron Rodgers oh he
always coming back on well he's on one leg that's fine if we score one touchdown
we're fine hey guess what we didn't score another touchdown hey guess what
Jordan Howard went out of bounds by accident hey guess what Kyle Fuller
let a interception go through his fucking yeah that was bad and he's got no
cob just ran for a billion yards yeah the the interception that would have
sealed it for sure you know Carlos Rodgers special the worst part is
making Packers fans so happy right now listen they're so happy we're gonna do
huge numbers with a show because everybody loves suicidal big cat the one
thing that you're not getting that I really wish that every single listener
could be experiencing like I'm experiencing you can hear the pain in
Big Cat's voice which is wonderful it's but but it's like the whole dynamic you've
got going on you've got your sad that bear sweatshirt looks awesome when you're
winning but there's not a sadder t-shirt or a sadder shirt in the world to wear
when you use your hairs to shovel my second chin is just like really being
pronounced your eyes you you've got like a bastard hound eyes it just it's like
how could that happen I scratch you behind your ears and make everything okay
I know it's week one the worst part is my text messages like with everyone like
the oh my god I can't believe how good the bears are is this real this is a
competent team this offense is unbelievable we might win the fucking
NFC North it's a little time capsule that we just buried it will never exist
ever you have it forever little time capsule I made I made a bit I was literally
spent the entire second half making Clio Mack shirts and I was gonna I was gonna
basically retire off of him he was a stat he had a he had a sack a strip sack
a fumble recovery an interception and a touchdown all in all one game yeah game
and the only person to ever do that before was Clio Mack he is unreal he is
unreal so that's a good silver lining we still have Clio and then that the first
half offense looked pretty good I think I figured out Nagy so like those first
series that he had which it looked like he was like reinventing football he had
offense alignment split out why don't do that don't do that Kelly I really hope
that they like eventually throw a screen pass to a tackle will they need make my
day what so he came out there doing his mad scientist thing for a while it's
like if I go to a wedding I'm really good at dancing in the first three
songs because I've got my moves I've got like I've got my go-tos and I know
people that haven't seen me do those moves before I'll be like hey looks like
this guy might be an okay dancer but then after like uptown funk is done and
they start to get in the deep cuts yeah once the electric slide is I just do
like to step and clap and that's what Nagy did after his first couple drives he
just went back to like basic football the field needs to be wider that's the
problem because I can already tell we're we're not really a north-south team when
it comes to the passing game we just kind of just spread it out you know throw
throw a lot of shit to the sidelines so we just need to figure out how we can
make this the field a little bit wider and then the Bears offense will be on
stop running the football to you guys do a lot of like great action great running
use a lot of fullbacks to which I like in that offense I alright I don't want to
we won't make this a Bears package I have one last question for you before we
move on to the rest of week one do you think Nagy is making a mistake by
wearing a visor as a bald man no in fact hey good I that's a good takeaway I
think the opposite it is important to make sweeping broad visual judgments on
new coaches and just things that we're gonna harp on for the next five years
about this guy with him I actually like the visor look on on his bald head
because it's like circling his brain it's like a circle around his brain
telling me how smart he is all Kyle Fuller had to do is squeeze that ball
that's why he's not a wide receiver mm-hmm yeah maybe if Nagy wasn't so
toxically masculine and was able to have female daughters then he would have
been able as opposed to male daughters well female children two male children
got it got it got it even his sperm septics that's how masculine he is so
that was yeah I guess that was the biggest story Aaron Rodgers rose from
the dead I thought we're gonna have another season without him it was gonna
be fucking sweet I do like how the Packers earned a never-ending cycle of
getting a tight end in the off-season and people saying this is gonna be the
tight end oh yeah that finally fits in with Aaron Rodgers oh yeah oh yeah and
they're gonna be unstoppable yeah it's like Jimmy Graham like two and a half
years to fit in with anyone right he probably didn't even breastfeed and
Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers makes everyone better so it's like you could
throw anyone out there and just like oh he's actually gonna be good all right
we we did bury the lead though the real story the Steelers and the Browns tied
they tied the Browns the Browns did not lose a football game for the first time
in like whatever it was 20 months or something huge action is so sad to say
131 in one which is beautiful if he can get 900 hang on wait nine nineteen
hundred and eighty four more ties then he'll have my birthday ooh that'd be good
that's very relatable and Big Ben I so what we're gonna do let's just let's
preface everything we say here with it's all hot takes because it's week one and
we're gonna make just knee-jerk reactions is Big Ben bad he's bad now
that he's skinny because he doesn't know how to he doesn't know how to operate
without like all that extra padding around him he threw three interceptions
had two fumbles I don't know what it is watching him now but he he like doesn't
actually think there's a rush ever like he just run he'll run sideways and throw
the ball and we're like underhand and all this weird shit it kind of reminds me
of when Brett Favre the first time we thought he was done with the Packers he
would do that kind of shit where he just like run past the line of scrimmage and
throw an underhand pass yeah like Big Ben's kind of get into that senile
quarterback age where it's like he's doing shit that's not even in the rule
book he doesn't have peripheral vision anymore as a thing yeah he just drops
back and since he doesn't have that padding he's used to like defensive
end just hitting him and bouncing off him yeah are just being absorbed by his
fat yeah but now that he's like lost a little bit of that cushioning he gets
hit and he gets hit and he feels it so like it's a different Big Ben he's
still learning he's figuring out his own body you ready for this growing into
himself you ready for this stat yeah since the Browns came back in the NFL
teams that have plus five and takeaways in a game are a hundred thirty two and
four and one the Browns have two of those losses in the tie a hundred thirty
two four and one the Browns have two of those losses and one of those ties do
you think it's pot it's possible for the Browns to tie 16 games I would love it
I love ties ties are the great because you go through the range of the motions
we're like all right we need a winner and then you get halfway through the
overtime wait do we know and then you make the Donovan McNabb jokes yeah and
it's a comfortable circle and then the game ends and everyone's like this is
gonna be awesome looking at the stand there's a flow chart yeah you're gonna
have that one that always fucks everything up yes for the rest of the
year yeah it's gotta be gonna annoy me in the in the standings yeah everyone's
gonna become a mathematician doing fucking winning percentage yeah like
well yeah I don't know how to figure this out yeah if you don't have a dog in
a fight ties are amazing I love ties but if you are actually a fan of one of
the teams that is involved in the tie they suck because you don't know whether
you should get drunk because you're happy or you should get drunk because
you're sad Bengals happy I mean uh Browns happy for sure
you didn't lose a game yeah you didn't lose a game that's huge but like you get drunk
because you got a because you tied yeah no that and and the Browns fans I
fucking love Cleveland Brown fans it was raining there was half full at the end
they were just flipping off the camera going crazy over every single play and
you tied and then they probably got drunk in the whatever the muni lot and had a
great time they had a absolutely had a great time can I ask you guys a question
yeah could Alabama beat the bills mmm though so that's a good question because
the bills this is going to be a bad season for the bills it was lost 47-3
they got smoke they made Joe Flacco look good again which is hard Joe Flacco made
himself hard to Nathan Peterman 5 for 18 24 yards and Sean McDermott still said I
want to take a look at this tape yeah we'll see we I don't know whether he's
good or not even though he had a 0.0 quarterback rating at one point he I forget
what it was he was like 4 for 12 with two interceptions and then he threw an
incomplete pass and his quarterback rating actually went off dude how does
Sean McDermott after the five interception game he was like I'd still
want to look at the tape and see if some of those were good throw never know
you know you don't know the whole story we everyone in the world knows that
Nathan Peterman is one of the worst quarterbacks of all time except his
head coach no the odds of that was progress dude so last time he started he
got pulled at halftime this time he got pulled three minutes into the second
half he made it always yeah so by week seven he'll make it all the way to the
two-minute warning yeah so the other games we had Andrew Luck is back can I
ask you real quick on the bills yeah also let's not poo poo the Ravens the
Ravens do look like a good football John Harbaugh they're gonna win that
division John Harbaugh is a weak one gangster yeah he always know he did we
want his time to shine yeah they're gonna win that division but I don't know
about that with the bills they have a decision make okay Josh Allen time I
think they're going to I don't think they should I'm worried about it because
it's not a ideal when you talk about ideal situations for a quarterback I
don't think the bills this season are gonna be I mean I know I'm gonna
struggle to find one way you're going to mentally abuse him yeah and
psychologically abuse him if you put him out there for 16 games are bills fans
though are you still living off the high of last year and making the playoffs
because that's a weird thing that's a weird yeah this is a playoff team yeah
they're not a rebuild technically a playoff they did lose two-fifths of their
offense line and that was a little nice nugget that Scott Hanson threw out for
the early games he's like because the rate when the when a game gets away from
him he's like well what's the point of going back to it and he said like the
third quarter listen these two teams technically had the most wins combined
from last year of any matchup in the in the one o'clock that's right yeah the
Ravens should have been a playoff team yeah yeah so that my team that's gonna
win the NFC North the Cincinnati Bengals who I gave him on Friday a trash
take their their color rush Unis were fire Andrew Luck is back he threw 53
times Andy Dalton's hair did pop more in the color rush and they have a ton of
they have a ton of talent yeah and as long as Andy Dalton there was a funny
moment in that game where it was like the game started and you you're like not
used to football being back so you don't know if like your score bug is like it's
like glitchy or something because it went Andy Dalton interception Andrew
luck interception back-to-back place like wait no there's something wrong here
like nope actually these guys just kind of suck that's just good midwestern
football yeah Andrew luck before the game sounded like the biggest dork of all
time I was just happy to go out learn be a cult just walking out there was a cult
back with my guys for me yeah so and then we're just gonna whip through the whole
league here the are the most important wait can let's talk about Frank Reich
real quick yes because he moves the needle he's still in that stage where if
he walked into this room right now I would not know who Frank you'd have to
be wearing a cult's polo he didn't do anything like noteworthy stupid or
entertaining for me to even recognize him yet so I just act the only way that
I'll acknowledge him is if I can chew horn his last name into a Nazi joke yeah
switch you can I knew I listen I know I can you and you will yeah and I will you
will the Saints defense is trash and Ryan Fitzpatrick had the greatest game
of all time he had four touchdowns 417 yards I this is my long time theory that
Ryan Fitzpatrick is just herpes and he just get flare-ups every now and then
because you kind of forget that he exists and then all of a sudden they'll
have one or two games where he was like wait what oh that oh yeah Harvard Ryan
Fitzpatrick yeah yeah he's actually competent and then next game he'll
probably throw three interceptions and he'll have like one of those the bucks
are still in the game in the fourth quarter and Ryan Fitzpatrick runs
backwards you know 20 yards and just throws it up for an intercept no he's
like a con man from he's the guy from catch me if you can yeah he switches
jobs a lot and then he'll be really good and everybody will love him for a
second me and then everything is blows up in his face but yeah this was an
incredible game like there's no two ways about he was actually very good yes
this was not well on the Saints defense was trash but he was making some pretty
awesome throws and the beard the beard this year is sick I'm okay with the
Saints going back to what the Saints are in the end by that I mean always being
able to bet the over because their defense sucks and they air the ball out
like the Saints you need to last year suck because they ran it and you didn't
your brain didn't catch up to it the Saints need to be big 12 football for
every game yeah well it's a common mistake which Sean Payton did today he
obviously just ran with the game plan that he put in place for the Philadelphia
Eagles yes playoffs last year yes that that's game that he's like this is my
next game plan and so that was the next one in the chart so he just went with
that and did not game plan for Dirk Cutter and his brilliant offensive
Ryan Fitzpatrick it's also time to ask a question if there's a quarterback
controversy in Tampa who because I think that there is there I mean if he goes
if how many games she was up three three games yeah he goes three no Roderick
you don't spun the wheel and it landed on some random numbers okay right so I
got two people for wait you so it was an uber driver not a lift driver okay so
I'll give you three instead of four yeah we're gonna keep him off the scent three
is you know that odd number you don't really know what you did and if you
apologize if you give me a half-ass apology by the second week I'll just
reinstate you then yeah if you don't sexually assault any more service
providers then I'll just cut it down to two are you ready to jump off the Jimmy
G bandmigan because boy that was that I mean the 49ers we've said this all off
season like they were the team that everyone said this is the team and Jimmy
G is the guy he had three picks he looked bad and the Vikings defense
obviously is very good very good by the way do you agree with me that Kirk
Cousins looks shorter in purple I think he looks dumb I think he looks really
short I don't know if I'd say short I just say he looks stupid okay that's
fair he's such a nerd take that too but I think he does look shorter it's like
when Jeff Green wore the calf jersey and look like he could jump higher yeah
yeah Kirk Cousins look shorter in okay I'll yeah I'll run with that makes him
look squawking yeah I'll give you I also think it's the Matt Helmut that might be
what you're thinking it doesn't have that shine on it and sometimes the shine
can give a reflection yeah which makes you look a little bit taller yeah I gotta
start wearing shiny hats Jimmy G are we I'm ready to be like hey he stinks I'm
gonna give it a couple weeks because that Vikings defense is really good okay
very they're very very fair fair do you know one person that I do have to take
back my take is Patrick Mahomes thank you thank you which I listen listen this
is what I do I give out one really bad take to start the season to get my legs
you know under me last year I said blow up the Saints this year I said Patrick
Mahomes stinks stinks and is gonna be terrible guess what I'm a big I'm a
bigger man than most I will make my mistakes you don't you that was very
fucked up you when you when you have a bad take you just pretend it's a joke
I at least say hey I was wrong yeah so I was wrong okay well you just kind of
cut yourself by just admitting that you're wrong so easily like that because
here's the thing no I was he's electric okay you're gonna go back though if you
know he's electric no I'm a believer in him now I'm a little like a 3-4 no I'm
a believer he was electric and then you're gonna be like I knew it no he was
electric he was electric he was electric yeah I'm on the I'm on the right side
that's my homeboy not yours he's so good every throw that he may he's like
making throws off balance they're going like 42 yards in the air yeah incredible
stuff Jimmy Butler still not a top 20 guy right now not yeah see that's what
he gets absolutely not the pretends to joke and I have to own you so you sound
triggered no I'm a Patrick Holmes guy might buy Jersey fuck it I might just do
it I'm gonna get Patrick Holmes tattoo do it you won't you want to bet yeah okay
all right if I get if so what do you want bet you have to eat a horse poop if
I get him a horse poop no one's eating horse except you that's nowhere and then
we don't even know if you eat horse poop there's no very good visual evidence of
it I saw it you know you didn't see it you just you smelled it Hank poop or Hank
puked yeah I know because he's got weak stomach very weak stomach what other games
you want to touch on real quick oh the page you duck we said we're a frog
fraud bull cowboys are the frauds yes the cowboys are the from deck as a fraud
as well as as a fraud I think I I still think the dolphins might be fraudulent
okay in ways yeah that lightning delay which was just screwy that was awesome
because lightning it stopped for two hours and it started then it stopped for
two hours and you just didn't know if it was gonna I wanted to just keep going so
that we just had extra football at some point you know what this is actually a
brilliant strategy if the US government's involved in it because the one
way to get Americans to act on climate change is if we start having more and
more game cancellations in the NFL and there's been a shitload of weather
delays in college this year yeah if there's like one fall where 25% of major
college and NFL games are canceled or postponed you better believe we're
passing a fucking bill we're joining the Kyoto protocol we're joining that Paris
climate accord we're getting back in there with like both feet don't fuck
with our football so fast don't fuck with my football so yeah just stay a
little bit woke on that oh I had one other thing Sam Bradford might not be
the answer in Arizona yeah no shit okay that means you know what that means what
it's Glennon time baby what do you mean Glennon's out there you would they
draft Josh Rose yeah but they gotta let him sit to get a little learn that
they'll bring in Josh Rose I hope they bring in Mike I hope they
like so bad I hope they break that guy that guy that guy's a like a multi
multi-millionaire not just that's fucked up the world is is not at a right
balance when Mike Glennon has that much money like just looking at him yeah I
are you gonna call the Giants frauds I'm looking at my fraud list right now
Giants have a question mark of whether or not they're fraud no I'm not gonna call
them frauds because Seyquan is awesome he is exactly as advertised and yeah but
the Jaguars defense is just as good as we always you know I mean they were one
of the best units in football last year absolutely exactly the same as they
were this year and I watched because you know obviously it's the New York market
I watch that whole game Eli's definitely old and he definitely is not like he
missed a couple wide open guys but I'm not ready to call him frauds just because
I think Seyquan's that Seyquan is good enough that he will keep them like in
games by just being they are on my watch list though so that you know that's
fair that's right but they're not even you can't put a you can't make a team of
fraud that won three games last year but they already started his frauds right
but I think a lot of people were dismissing that because of Mac adieu
Mac adieu dude no I think it's the other way around it's will the Giants ever be
for real they started his frauds so it's can they be for they're coming up from
odds yeah I don't know if they will be for real yeah they're already in the
possibly real yeah exactly any other any other teams that we wanted to touch on I
guess the Patriots won again oh and the Broncos oh the Seahawks could be you
know what you know what Monday night football is next week Bears were Seahawks
that's a loser to leave town game is it really yeah whoever loses that game is
not gonna make the playoffs where where is that game that's in Chicago okay I'm
like oh that's gonna be yeah that's a win yeah that's a win I think Seahawks they
hate traveling east right yeah that's a win for sure I'm gonna just gonna actually
can I just do it right now can I just say it's a win yeah yeah you'll be
basically two and oh yeah as long as we get a 23 and 24 nothing lead will be good
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football guy of the week we have four guys again we're gonna put it on Twitter
you can vote who wins football guy the week last week who won it was the full
back from LSU yep okay gave a great acceptance speech so first up of Joe
borough yeah first up we have syrup guy you have syrup guy do you know where
syrup guys from yeah I do so syrup guy he's a high school football coach let me
pull up exactly where he's from here he is from his coach Carmichael and he
carries around Aunt Jemima on his holster like it's a gun on the sidelines
and he hands out shots of syrup to his offensive linemen whenever they have a
pancake block I so I watch this video it is so beautiful watching a guy come off
the field a big offensive linemen and he's just pouring syrup down his throat
yeah and that's football Jones Borough high school love it he's also the
wrestling coach there ooh that's double Georgia Jones Borough Georgia all right
our next up is Larry Fedora who is the coach of the UNC Tar Heels he has a
little memory issue well actually no he doesn't have a memory issue because he
is such a football guy that he has decided he has a selective memory so
someone asked him they played ECU this weekend they lost someone asked him
about the blowout loss they had a couple years ago and he was just like I don't
know what you're talking about yeah he's like me just pretends that they're jokes
yeah exactly no I didn't screw anything no he doesn't even do that he does he
just said I don't know what you're talking about maybe I should start doing
that yeah and then and then someone followed up and was like hey when you
said he didn't know what you're talking about do you just not remember he's like
yeah you could say that I don't know what you're talking about and just erase
the loss from his memory right as well bring it up well he that's that's pretty
fitting so he's the guy that says that like the United States military depends
on having football right right so yeah you as we don't talk about wars that we
lose correct ever so he he's just taking after the troops yes yes so I I mean I
like this move just erase things that you don't want to talk about and that's
exactly what Larry Fedora absolutely move on we have coach Mike Vrabel from the
Tennessee Titans who before the game was running full-length hundred yard wind
sprints yeah back and forth yeah I think I so you know Mike I know Mike he's an
intense guy coach coach sorry please yeah okay we know coach and we know that
he's an intense dude he's just like taking the edge off like we always say
with a dog if you want your dog to behave itself just make it tired yes so he's
got the he's like trained himself to just tire himself out so that he won't go
psycho on the sidelines and bite a referee he also looks so intimidating on
the sidelines yeah and I love that I love watching a guy you're like that guy
could he still play maybe definitely yeah you could hop out there like Dan
what's his name Dan Campbell from the man Campbell yeah Mike Tice I thought
was a guy like that Mike Tice for sure was that I feel I feel Joe's got a
little bit of that yeah I felt like Vrabel they had to just like drag him
off the field during the lightning yeah he was like no I'll just I can let me
tackle lightning yeah there's any lightning I'll take care of it and then
we have a posthumous football guy award for Denny Green rest in peace what was
the story for Denny Green so I think Tony Dunge mentioned this during the
lightning delay on Thursday night football but he said that at one point
coach Green during the preseason delayed one of his team's flights on purpose
that they were about to take off to go to a preseason game and he delayed the
flight on purpose to show his team how to face adversity I love that and just
get him trained yeah just be like hey guys sorry flights flights delayed what
do you mean it's like clear it's you know half his career he was in Arizona if
you're in Minnesota in the summer yeah he said it was during preseason yeah not
a lot of travel delays in the summer yeah and so he's just like monitoring how
his team handles adversity just like looking around the airport right what
because no one's ever been delayed on a flight before no they should actually do
that for new journalists yeah first year in the biz I like that they should delay
your flight and see how quickly you can take to Twitter yeah so vote for it at
part of my take also quick shout out to Colorado wide receiver maybe my favorite
college football name in a long time LaVisca Chanel he had like 170 yards
against Nebraska and it's just fun to say his name LaVisca Chanel LaVisca
LaVisca Chanel I like it I don't even know how that's a real name but it's
he's not Chanel like it's not all okay but it is it's spelled French but they
were saying it should not yeah if you play football and you have a French name
you thereby agreed to have it pronounced American yeah also Scott Frost I know
we've talked about Scott Frost taking Nebraska to the top mm-hmm guess what he
doesn't know how to work clock maybe pump the brakes so not knowing how to work
clock pretty big mistake he had a backup quarterback and they were trying to milk
the clock and they just kept on snapping it with 15 seconds left yeah it was
great it was awesome it was pretty cool when everyone in the world well we didn't
talk about Hugh Jackson kicking that field goal with 13 seconds left and over
time yes and giving the Steelers a chance to win the game that would have been
the most bronze thing ever if that had happened yes if they had just somehow
gotten a miracle touchdown you're like wait to you and just listening to Hugh in
my head answer those questions of the press conference well we didn't we didn't
feel like nine seconds was enough time for them to take the ball down field yeah
we'll play to win yeah all right we got our who's back of the week Hank who do
you have for you who's back the week I gotta I got to first one is Meek Mill and
Drake okay so their beef is over Drake had a concert in Boston Meek Mill came
out performed dreams and nightmares they hugged embraced so they're past their
beef I think Meek Mill broke up with Nicki Minaj and that was kind of like
what started it in the first place so they kind of bonded over their hate of
Nicki Minaj now they're back hopefully making music soon okay is he gonna be
doing any more things would like the 76ers and the Eagles he's still hanging
out oh yeah is there a chance Drake did this just because he got smoked in that
beef like a few months ago and he just can't handle another beef yes like
everyone now knows about the whole stripper thing and all that he's he's got
battle scars yeah he's completely vulnerable so he's got to just make
friends with everyone yeah he's playing though like better better united than
divided right because you don't want to get burned again yes yeah okay and my
other who's back is Andrew Bynum okay I saw this Shams reported that the former
two-time champion in All-Star has hired representation in attempts of an NBA
comeback okay only 30 years old is he able to jump still I don't think it
matters I don't think he ever was yeah each one of his arms is like seven feet
long yeah yeah I'm here for the Andrew Bynum come back it's great I was stunned
that he was 30 years old yeah yeah like the fact that you would you would have
thought okay I'm gonna leave for three years right right right I'm ready for
he's gonna go to the Warriors yeah need Kwame Brown come out or maybe just do
big yeah don't get Kwame for sure yeah Kwame Brown put him back in the Lakers they
have open spot that's true and their roster is already just an absolute
carnival might as well just throw Andrew Bynum in there to equal everything out
Bynum and Bailey's yeah boom the real carnival who do you got for who's back
my hoom's back of the week is Adrian Peterson who Adrian Peterson's back he
had a really good game for the R words whenever you we mentioned Adrian Peterson
we have to throw in the phrase how much gas did you have left in the tank oh yeah
and I think his tank is like three-quarters away full right now yeah
he was doing his little Adrian Peterson galloping in the backfield looking for
the whole thing he wasn't quite as explosive and wasn't quite as angry as
he used to be but he's still really really good also he's playing against the
Cardinals it will it will be awesome if Adrian Peterson has some kind of like
weird renaissance because I feel like we've gotten to Adrian Peterson's from a
bygone era of football mm-hmm like when those running backs were actually like
that now every running back has to be able to catch the ball and all that stuff
and if he could just have a renaissance and be like hey remember this is what
football used to be like it would be pretty awesome and then after the game
he got the game ball and he he packed in the biggest lip that I've ever seen he
looks like bubblegum yeah when he hit when he has it is it is insane how much
chewing tobacco he has it's good for him yes my other who's back of the week is
hold back guys mm-hmm more specifically Davos hold back guy at Clemson that guy
I don't know who he is I think we he was one of our nominees for football guys
last yes last year he sinks his hips he squares up on Davos ass and he's not he
just reaches out there and grabs him by the pelvis mm-hmm and just drags him back
excellent execution and Clemson like Clemson has I don't know how they've gone
from the Clemson thing five years ago to no matter what happens Clemson wins
they were lucky to get out of there lucky Texas A&M played an awesome game
also love I noticed this about Jimbo Fisher Jimbo Fisher if you were to
create a southern football coach he would have the voice of that person like
he is the perfect voice where it's like I don't know where that accent exactly is
from but it's got just all southern football and he's always he's always like
a little bit disappointed in whoever he's talking to and he's wet he's always
wet yeah he's I know that just happened because of Saturday he was playing in the
rain but he does always seem a little wet yes yeah all right my who's back is
actually Kansas football so Kansas football won their first road game in
nine years they beat Central Michigan so this is the weekend if you're paying
attention of like downtrodden teams having big glow-ups the Browns tied and
Kansas football beat a max school and the Bears won a half and Kentucky that's
right shout out my hockey beat Florida yes finally beat Florida which that was
hilarious watching all of our friends on Kentucky Sports Radio who are on you
know we follow them all on Twitter but they celebrated like they won the Super
Bowl oh yeah it was incredible like that was a long streak they had their shirts
off they were popping champagne they were sporing champagne on each other
it's like okay I mean this is they should just declare themselves a national
champion yes like UCF did it's not gonna get better no just right that you've
won the Kentucky National Championship right you chased the dog down you
chased the car down and you caught it yes also shout out to the linebacker
Cass Daniel who tried to nominate himself doesn't work that way but we
appreciate your support but it doesn't work yeah it was a cool video it was an
awesome video but it looked badass someone else has to nominate you looked
that perfect amount of like oh this guy probably played 80 snaps in a really
hard game in the swamp but yeah you can't you can't nominate yourself someone
else has to nominate you all right let's get to our interview we have Willie
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now welcome on three-time Super Bowl champion two-time pro bowler Willie
McGinnis you can watch him NFL total access at 7 p.m. Eastern you can follow
him on Instagram or Twitter at Willie McGinnis let's start there do you ever
get a call from Bella check being like hey you're part of the media now you're
get the joke yeah I mean all the time I get the joke but you know what it's it's
open arms I have all access it's pretty good I know I work on total access but
I have all access I know when to keep my mouth shut and when not to when was the
last time you kept your mouth shut about a story every time I visit the Boston
area yeah there's a lot going on and I do that every facility so I'm cool with a
lot of coaches in GM so when I go to the different teams I have a good
reputation of keeping in-house business in-house okay so how much does
Bill Belichick hate Alex Guerrero I don't think it's hate at all that's your
guy no I did yeah I did I brought him in-house and he's done great things for
players and organization I just think it's it's a what do they call that it's
a configuration type thing love triangle yeah so I don't think there's hate
that's a strong word do you think that they're the stories about the rift there
was any truth there you guys have family members siblings yeah do you ever get
into it with family members yeah that's what happens okay it happens with family
there you know there's a little bit of truth to everything at the end of the
day they all understand that they all need to be on the same page to win games
Tom needs to focus he needs to be prepared right and Bill has a system in
place that he wants everybody to follow and you know that's how it goes but
family fights family has little disagreements we had disagreements when
I was there with coaches and different people we worked it out but the last
thing they want to do is make it a distraction and blow it up like it did
and and get all over the place so you spent the vast majority of your career
in New England what you you're at 12 years and then you went out to Cleveland
for a couple years three when you got to Cleveland you know you hear a lot of
stories about guys that go into New England for the first time like you
know Eric Decker Hawkins they get in there and then they just immediately
quit so like that's not for me Reggie Wayne retired Reds you go to the last
long at least he stayed there for a year though like he got it out he tried when
you left did you go into Cleveland and you're like I can't do this in Cleveland
no it was tougher it was tougher a lot of people complain and they talk about
the fun aspect right of not having fun in New England I had a lot of fun kicking
people's ass my entire career same and it wasn't a big deal to me but there's
things in place that you had to abide by the individual the individualism
kick that out the door it doesn't exist it's about team first and when you have
team success you have individual success when you go to other places the
preparation the structure everybody being on the same page everybody being
held accountable the same way superstars free agents the same a lot of people
can't really handle that people being called out the same top the bottom it's
consistency and there's something that we built back in the early 2000s that
still exists that players understand that when you come there it's going to be a
certain way and it's it's a proven winning ingredient how quickly did you buy
into Bella check because you had Pete Carroll and then Bella check comes in
Bella check first then you had Pete Carroll then you had Bella check as
the head coach right were you all in right away or did it take a little bit of
time for his you know because he's obviously not the most gregarious guy
he's not friendliest guy you don't think so no I don't think somebody gets his
results he does and I bought in right away I would say that for all my
coaches I even bought in with Pete Carroll because I do understand and
realize you can win games differently you don't have to have the same type of
demeanor or coaching style to win championships sometimes you tape the
other team before the game sometimes you take the ball there are the balls
so many different ways to it it happens you know how are we how are you chalk
that up right at the end of the day there's a lot of different ways and
there's a lot of different teaching styles so I adapted to all of them and
when Bella check came I was honored because we knew there was a small group
of guys he was going to keep a handful of guys and everything else he was going
clean house and I was I felt special to be a part of that group he wanted to keep
there right were you ever a little bit jealous that when he was put in plays
where like Vrabel was catching touchdowns that wasn't no he lobbied for
that all the time like Vrabel wanted the ball I after I saw Vrabel squared I
kind of was like wow that'd be cool to catch a touchdown but since he had
lobbied so long to play tight end and then he was finally actually kind of
good at it mm-hmm I couldn't blame him yeah you know I couldn't be jealous that
is kind of bullshit though that he was lobbying he was like going behind your
back being like hey it's not good enough for me linebacker he was not going
behind our back he made it known that he had the best hands out of the linebacker
crew and long arm and long arm those those going to linebacker we we've had
him on the show and he we saw him at the combine and he like slapped me in the
back and I spit up yeah like Jesus Christ he's a little he's still
physical yes he is he's very he's still hitting with the guys and using his
hands and bag drills and all yeah what about what about Brady how quickly did
you think like when you saw him you're like okay this is gonna be the guy I
didn't nobody did right nobody saw Brady when he walked in they had just gave
drew blood so a hundred million dollars nobody said wow that's that guy's about
to be the goat he's about to be the best thing since sliced bread nobody knew
that until we started even when he started at the position our offense
wasn't as dominant they were sufficient they were consistent they took care of
the football but they wasn't dominant like our defense was you know the
foundation of the team at the time I've got a hot take about this Patriots team
you're ready for it you got a hot yeah I'm gonna teach a little bit about the
business how you make some noise yeah yeah um hill the new running back that
they got in town okay Cincinnati he's gonna be the most physical running back
in New England since Corey Dylan maybe even more physical more physical can he
hold on to the football that's not what I'm talking about I'm just saying like
yeah he might drop the ball but he'll run your ass over so it doesn't matter
what happens with that yeah that's my point okay you can't be physical on the
sideline and the last guy who didn't take care of the football remember he
didn't dress and he had the football in his hand the entire game yeah yeah things
like that happened in New England that was um was it was it great that had three
touchdowns in a game and then they just cut his ass basically they say you're
not playing anymore he started talking trash and doing a lot of other things too
yeah that just didn't fit with what they do there yeah so so you're saying this
is Rex Burkhead's back backfield no I'm saying it's gonna be running back by
committee like you got white don't forget he's there I'm talking about the
wide receivers or no no as far as carrying the ball as well okay white
gets a lot of carries okay I got Burkhead and you got Hill and you got
Webb too right yeah that's true I don't know I just I like watching Hill run
ever since he was at LSU I like him too he just needs to take care of the
football and if and a lot is you're right on point because he's physical so he's
fighting for extra yards and sometime the ball gets exposed or he's going to the
ground still fighting in nine times well a big percentage that's dumb to
say nine times a big percentage of fumbles happen when the running backs
are going to the ground still fighting trying to brace themselves who was the
most physical running back you ever had to hit I would say Corey Dillon was
definitely one of them clock killing Corey Dillon yeah he gave us like
almost 200 yards when we played against him the year we won the Super Bowl they
beat us the first game of the season I believe it was in 2001 and he racked up
over 200 yards he's one of them I mean go all the way back I played against
some of the best backs ever do it the wrong bet is was big I don't think he
was physical Michael stop oh interesting what do you mean by that to us he
wasn't that physical we rather play against him than the other backs that
they had why because you just get them lowered he just didn't know we put that
we know we put that that flipper right in his chest plate did you guys Eddie
George yeah did you guys ever have you know obviously you played some big games
against the Colts the Steelers did it ever feel like we just you mentally
have them and like there's nothing they can beat you never because they were too
good we just felt like we needed to do everything in our power to prepare and
be ready and going to those games we were confident and I think the biggest
motivators nobody gave us a chance to win a lot of those games because they
were so deep talent wise you know people didn't look at us as having all that
talent across the board you know we had to earn that it earned names for ourselves
yeah they didn't yeah yeah which Super Bowl means the most to you that's a tough
question gotta rank them I guess the first one because I was you should
actually say the next one that's no well I'm not playing anymore now with that
yeah no that's right you're retired yeah you're out no don't look like you you
you have not aged thank you yeah I don't know what like secret sauce you got but
I don't I'm just working out with the money they're paying guys now I wish I
could just hit a button and hit reset and go right back right back into it one
thing I've always wondered about I think it's a Super Bowl in 2004 that was the
Janet Jackson Nipplegate did you know that I did not I did try to peak a peak
the you know but we're inside yeah I have time I did try to come out early but
I didn't I didn't get a peak did word make it down to the field in the second
half like hey Justin Timberlake just exposed Janet Jackson's breast no not I
think it happened right before we went out we heard that oh you so you knew it
you played the entire second half knowing that Justin Timberlake Nipplegate
was on my mind I wouldn't have been able to focus what's wrong with USC I don't
know can't win the big one well we got to get to the big one yeah no that's the
point we got to get one before the big how about let's get to the down playoffs
yeah I don't go to all of them because of work in different things and I am an
ambassador to the program and I take a lot of pride in my Trojans and I know
that they're trying to put all the pieces together and I think we got a
young group of talented young men we need to get tougher in the trenches on the
old line and D line that's where I think our downfall has been the last few years
if you're going to compete with the Ohio State yeah that was a bad game and
Clemson and Alabama and all those teams you got it you can't get pushed around
in the trenches yeah so we got to figure that out what's Snoop Dogg like Snoop is
dope all the time yeah it's been it's been a couple of weeks but all the time
it's my brother you get drug tested in the fund that work no I should I anybody
who hangs around snoop probably get drug tested just based on the contact the
exactly who's funnier Snoop or Will Ferrell I have to go will Ferrell he's
one of my favorite actors yeah he's pretty good is he still funny or is he
just like in no he's funny he's funny I find myself watching a lot of those
old movies of him he's I like him and he's a big Trojan fan so I give him a
lot of respect what's let's talk about the 2018 NFL season real quick yeah
we'll give us a dark horse and you can't say the 49ers they are dark they're my
best make the playoffs last year right they're my October they're your dark
or yeah they got to get off to a fast start that's one they've never done
that in the history that franchise they start on for every season well last year
on for the year before one in three yeah so they got to figure that out and you
got it and you can't lose four games or whatever amount of games by three points
or less mm-hmm so I think the coaching staff the players they've added they've
got a shot they've got a shot but until I see it until they get off to the first
quarter of football I need to see them at least two or two then I'll be like
okay they're going to the playoffs yeah I think that's fair here's another hot
take I've got Derwin James I love the next Ed Reid I love him and that's
that's not like a dark horse or surprise everybody knows he also stole the
chargers maybe because they laughed at me last everybody knows how good he is
yeah people forget about it though he can cover he's a person he hits like a
linebacker he does it all yeah he's a ball he's Sean Taylor 2.0 yeah what up
give us another one give us another one yeah team have you been to a bunch of
the camps I wanted to say Tennessee okay but I've been watching the quarterback
play a little bias no I'm not yeah that's nothing to do yeah they're a good
team I just need to see more out of the quarterback he threw more pigs than
touchdowns last year and I've been watching the preseason it hasn't been
crisp so you got to have consistent quarterback play in this league or at
least a quarterback that's going to take care of the ball yep and their talent
they have a talented roster I just need to see more that whole division is gonna
be tough though like if I say Kansas City no they've been to the playoffs the
last yeah but I don't think they're gonna be good this year yep they still
question mark yeah he's young I gunslinger what quarterback does he remind
you of Josh Allen no pass oh that's right if you want us to say breath far
but I've been watching network to yeah he's reckless I'm glad you keep up with
yeah yeah no I think actually every California team is gonna make the
playoffs this year about that not the raiders no gruden that's the team I
think has a little bit too much hype because of the coaching yeah because of
the coach edition we are we have fun on the show we say that Mike Gruden or
John Gruden is coaching like it's 1998 he's got his own time machine so he just
wishes that it was like it was back when he first got into league what I think
that he's probably gonna take some teams by surprise based on how simple he's
gonna play the game you know what you when you got a good quarterback and you
got good pieces around him you shot yeah I think cars really good looks like
I do not I do not think he's I think he's a little hyped I think I'm
also overhyped to well he had a bad year yeah go before that though you can't
judge guys off one year that's what oh yes oh yeah I can okay that's how we do
it in the media so we don't need your reaction what's the big thing of bounce
back player that comes back and has a great year after a bad year yeah I know
I'm just gonna throw him out there all about Matt Ryan you like Matt Ryan yeah
can't win the big one he's had some bad year yeah he's had some good one still
waiting for the Falcons to play their best game in 2017 he's okay okay yeah he's
like top 10 I think I think he was a product of what is he not top 10 he was
13 and 3 I believe without Kyle Shanahan he's top ten you got your computer
open pull it out here's your top five quarterbacks top five yeah breeze wait in
order no order in order I'm not giving you an order yeah breeze Brady Rogers big
Ben Russell Wilson and I think that's why I'm a big Ben still huh Ben is a beast
man yeah I still love Blake Bordel beat him twice in his own backyard Blake
Bordel's of that team no Blake Bordel's we are all Blake wait let me look this up
it was 45 to 42 also what you'll look up how many touchdowns they scored on
defense they scored a couple that's irrelevant but that's that's the kind of
swag that you get on defense hidden point that's the kind of swag you get on
defense when you got a quarterback well no credit for those yeah hear me out
because that's my point here me out because in Patriot way right team it's the
team was the Jags way yeah in preseason and in practice Blake Bordel's throws a
lot of interceptions so he gives his he gives his defense some reps so in
preseason that's how you get your hands good and then when he gets good over the
regular season then now he's firing on all stillers and his defense backs can
catch I got it that's how you do you throw a lot of picks in a preseason in
practice to get him ready exactly oh okay okay here's a good question did Tom
Brady make Bob Kraft Trey make Bill Belichick Trey Jimmy Garoppolo no nobody
makes Bill Belichick do anything except for this one time Rodger Gidell made
him say I tell you what what makes somebody do something your play your
play okay so if you have exceptional play and you're not falling off like a lot
of people expect when you turn 40 or 39 or 41 when you're the but that's a super
bold right league MVP then you kind of like we can't push this kid to the side
right now he's not falling off okay so you talk to him all the time like he the
the Belichick why Belichick is the best coach in the NFL is that he always lets
guys go a year before they maybe two years or three years like me right three
more years but but do you think like is Brady gonna be the exception is he gonna
let he already has the exception but he's gonna let him get bad before he like
is he gonna give him is he gonna change his ways for Tom Brady I don't think
Brady's gonna let himself get bad before that happens I think he'll walk away
before he becomes an average to below average or bad quarterback I think he'll
walk away I think it's the toughest thing in football as a coach slash GM to
be able to evaluate talent know when it's time to move on or move on right
before that player starts to go downward and I think Belichick is the best at
doing that well I mean not always right I mean Tyler Jones did lead the league
in sacks last year right so he's still a real valuable player but when it comes
to that position it's such a huge shortage of elite great and I only use
those words with a certain with certain quarterbacks elite great quarterbacks
that you have to hang on and why would you move on from those guys why would you
move on from breeze we were there any hard feelings when you left yeah I was
pissed off you were yeah I was pissed I remember you cut we had something called
a ghost year that okay a ghost year something where you're gonna make an
extra astronomical amount of money right it's not a real year it's meant for us
to tear up the contract and and do a new deal right and then they tore it up and
said well it wasn't happening anyway it wasn't a real it wasn't a real year it's
one of those years so that reporters can like tell our agents can tell reporters
hey I got this guy 80 million dollars over five years no over one year is like
something crazy what was that conversation like though do you build
like hey look no we didn't have we didn't we didn't have one I have my
conversation was with Scott Piolli you know who was the GM at the time who had
that title and he's like you know sometimes players got to take cuts and
do certain things to sacrifice if they want to stay places and I was pretty
much like you know he told me he did it you know I I sacrificed the stairs like
yeah but you can do your job for 40 years right I can't hit and run into people
so we had a we had a we had a great understanding and they told me that they
wanted me to be there the conversations didn't happen the way they were supposed
to happen and I couldn't sit around you know I had to go out and and see what
was else out there and when once other teams found out that we didn't have a
deal in place or we were not negotiating deals start to come through the door
like wildfire and the first place I went was Cleveland where Romeo was the
head coach I knew the defense inside out the transition was easy it was a great
football city they needed leadership they needed guys to show the other guys of
what it takes to prepare and get yourself ready and you know how you should be a
pro on and off the field all those things and when I got there they didn't
let me leave and I did give a courtesy call though before I signed and say hey
this is the last chance yeah let's see what we can do this is what they game is
like whoa that's a pretty good deal I think you should take it and I was like
yep right there what why do you think it is that in places like Cleveland or
Kansas City would have you when there's a coach that leaves from New England they
don't always get it right you know like it's always a thing to get that off
it's a coordinator it's tough it's tough to emulate what what Belichick has done
and I think not only for New England but I watched the Giants you know and
McAdoo last year have a guy as a head coach that probably should have never
been a head coach some guys are best fitted to be coordinators and some guys
that are coordinators like a young Sean McVeigh who was only a coordinator for
half a season and quarterback coach goes in he's a great he wins NFL coach of the
year so I just think it's not right for everybody to be a head coach it's a
tough job and especially coming out of the shadows of Bill Belichick you know
you can't emulate him you could take everything you've learned from him but
you still have to have your own personality and do things your way so I
think a guy like Matt Patricia really understands that in Detroit and he's
doing things his way but he's taking all the magic all the stuff that he's
learning he's incorporating in his system but he's gonna do it his way and
use his own personality and engage with players and do things the way he wants
to do it he's not gonna try to try to emulate Bill in every single thing that
he does. My theory is that is that Belichick just sends his coordinators
out there and says okay go do a really shitty job and make this franchise terrible.
He's gonna fall off the face of the world. For the next four years so I have an easier job to get back to the Super Bowl then I'll hire you back as a coordinator.
Yeah he leaves them out of just enough meetings where they don't become smarter
enough to be successful coaches. You know what do you know something I would say this
if you're a coordinator on my staff and I know you were trying to leave would you
teach them all the tricks of the trade and then they go somewhere and beat you.
You know what it is? Bill doesn't let his coordinators meet with Ernie Adams. Ernie's his guy. Ernie's his guy? Yeah what's Ernie Adams like?
Oh trust me I know all about him. Everyone knows Ernie Adams. Everybody didn't know Ernie Adams before.
We didn't even know. Belichick started doing all these videos behind the scenes. We didn't even know who Ernie Adams was when he was there.
Who's that guy walking around with the glasses and his arm boated and making all these sounds and noises. Always in the offices with Bill.
Like who the hell is that? We didn't know. I promise you we did not know until one day he started talking. He's like yeah we got this from Ernie.
He's our guy. Like it took us a couple of years to know who Ernie was. That's hilarious. Did you ever ask like straight up what does Ernie do?
Ernie does a lot. What was the moment where Ernie did something? Ernie showed you something. I'm not gonna give you all the secrets.
Because that's Ernie's position. But what a play. Ernie pointed out to you. Ernie is a great collector of information.
Like when you go and scout teams, when you go and pick fine things that gives you the little edge I would say.
Evaluating talent. Guys that can do certain things versus certain teams. Knowing how to put guys in places. He's an information guy. I don't know if that makes sense.
He sounds like a CIA assassin. He's something. Did he ever say hey Willie watch this. This is gonna happen in the third quarter.
Well he always would say they got a habit of coming out doing certain plays in the beginning. Scripted teams that like to do certain things.
So it was one game where I think Ernie we were talking. He was like hey expect for them to do some type of gadget play within the first six or seven or eight plays of the game.
So the team were playing. They go out. I think it was San Diego or somebody. They go out. They get a first down. Like okay that's four downs.
And it kicked into my head saying hey something's coming. They're setting me up for something. It was like a reverse player. Something creepy like that.
I stayed at home and made the play. Immediately like kind of tried to look for Ernie. He was somewhere up in the nest in the cut.
And I was like that was Ernie. He put me up on that. That was Ernie. They were gonna try something. They did.
That's fantastic. So you know a lot of people talk about how Belichick benched Malcolm Butler for the Super Bowl. If you want to tell us why now would be a great time.
Just we could turn. We won't record. We won't. Yeah. Hey did he. Did he bench him or did he bench his. Was he a part of the benching itself.
Or did Malcolm bench himself through his own actions. Well I mean here's the thing. One if you're not mentally or physically prepared in the biggest game of your life bills not going to play.
If you don't practice bills not going to play you. If you have issues or he doesn't think you're there the day minutes maybe even hours before the game and you're ready to go out and perform.
He's not going to play. He's going to go out and get the guy who has been practicing all week who he thinks got his head in the game. Yeah. That is consistent and not making certain errors and things in practice.
What about if your secondary is getting torched and halfway through the Super Bowl. You're like hey maybe I should play him. Then I just tell you treats everybody from the first pick to the free the free agent.
The guys drafted undrafted free agent. The same. I also have a theory about about his like what Bill does to the roster before the Super Bowl. You know he's cut players a night before the game.
He sent players home from the Super Bowl. Yes. He sent players home that thought that they were going to get in the game with you in the Super Bowl. He switched your position before that game. He had to play defensive end.
You know your shit. Yeah. Yeah. So he wanted you to like spy McNabbur whatever that worked out well for him. So he's had like a lot of success going into Super Bowls. I think he saw I forget who the guy's name was but the guy that he played instead of Butler.
Ro. Yeah. Ro was on the Eagles and the Eagles got rid of him. And so I think he thought and said this guy's got a chip on his shoulders. He wants something. He's he's got some to prove against his old team.
So that makes about Malcolm Butler a little bit more expendable. I'm going to play this guy. Man you're a hundred percent wrong.
I was buying it all. Yeah. It was good. No sale. So you know the real story. But you're keeping it in house. No. I kind of gave you recent officers of what it was. Cut himself. You wasn't paying attention.
I heard you but I think that your attention to detail. I've been wrong before. We're going to agree to disagree. I've been wrong before. Yes. All right. Last question.
The CQ question put in promo code take go to any NFL game this year. $10 off with promo code take gun to your head. Tom Brady. How many more years does he play?
Three. How many more Super Bowls does he win? One. Interesting. Okay. Interesting. That was pretty quick. Right. Yeah that was. So you've given that answer before you just
maybe I've had a gun in my head before. Yeah. Right. And that's and they're like hey what are you bugging me. No we just want to know how much longer Tom Brady is going to play.
That was it. Yeah. Exactly. I'm pretty experienced in that. Here's my last question. You were I read that you were in a Bone Thugs and Harmony video. Was I. I was the cop.
Yeah. Yeah I was. Yeah you were a narc. Did they let you do that because you were probably the best defensive player in Cleveland Brown system. No I just knew
I knew their manager and I have some ends with that. So they wanted to get some guys in like little cameo roles and I didn't cost anything. Did you get to meet the
guys. Of course. Who smells more like weed. Crazy Bone or Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg. He's always smelling. He's got like a cloud of weed smoke that follows him everywhere he
goes. All right. Well Willie McGinnis thank you so much. Like I said check him out NFL total access 7 p.m. Eastern weeknights and follow it at Willie McGinnis
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Alright, let's get to some segments. I just looked at my Twitter mentions. It's a fucking dumpster fire.
Hey, live look at Big Cat's Twitter mentions. Dog in a room. It's burning. This is fine.
Old takes exposure said old takes exposed all of Big Cat's timeline. So you're just getting lazy on it. You're just going to give me the whole thing, the whole timeline swipe. Whatever.
Okay. We have talking tennis. So it was a big one, boys. You thief. Serena had a big time issue with the umpire.
Chair umpire.
Chair umpire for the U.S. Open. Now, the chair. I saw everyone on Twitter. I was watching football as we do on Saturdays and Sundays in the fall, but I saw everyone on Twitter flipping out.
And I tried to do a little research, meaning I watched like one video and read a couple tweets. From what I understand, she was already losing and she was kind of having a meltdown.
And then the chair umpire gave her said, you're getting coaching, which everyone does, but it's like an unwritten rule. Like, don't talk about it.
Yeah.
So, and then she flipped out and called him a thief and everyone said that the umpire was in the wrong.
Well, so what happened was, yeah, she was getting coaching. She denied that she got coaching.
Got it.
Then her coach said she was coaching.
But she did the, as a father of three, she pulled the LeBron and said, I'm a, I'm a mother and I would never cheat because that would expose my cheating to a child.
So she got caught cheating. She complained about that. Got a deduction or they gave the other person a point. Naomi.
Sure.
They gave her a point and then she smashed a racket and she got penalized for that as well. And then she flipped out on the chair umpire for penalizing her for smashing a racket.
Call them a thief. And then the chair umpire gave Naomi a full game.
Ooh, but she was already losing.
She was already.
She was already.
Naomi was kicking the shit out of her.
Naomi's really good.
So here's my question. I know that everyone loves Serena Williams. I get it. She's unbelievable. Best tennis player of all time.
Okay.
But it felt to me like she was being a little bit of a baby and she was losing and wanted to kind of make a scene.
Yeah.
And it sort of stole the moment from the person who actually did win Naomi's Osaka.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Right.
Yes.
So I agree with you. I think um she kind of she covered up for herself pretty well after the fact when she kind of admitted that she turned into a big thing and
Okay.
She didn't want it to steal the spotlight from Naomi.
Got it.
From her victory even though it kind of did.
From what I've done a little bit of research.
Oh you did more than me.
Yeah. Well I read another tweet.
Oh you did another.
Okay.
Got it. We got it.
We got a lot of shit covered.
In this tweet it did show like numerous examples of other athletes or other tennis players like screaming at chair umpires and not being penalizing.
Got it.
So that's where the men women thing.
The men women thing comes in a little bit where it's like un-lady like or it's interpreted as being like not lady like to scream at a chair
umpire and it's one of those things like well you can't judge it differently for men.
And this is coming off of in the U.S. Open I think a couple like in the first couple rounds one of the competitors took off for sure.
And she changed shirts because she had an inside out or something.
And it was her sports bra and she got penalized like that's no different than Federer taking off his shirt.
No because she has boobs.
Oh yeah.
You understand it.
Either way I do.
I do think Serena Williams gets like the benefit of the doubt all the time on Twitter.
She does.
That's absolutely true.
But she is like the best tennis player.
And let's get to the real story here.
John Heyman.
Poor John Heyman.
Poor John Heyman.
So John Heyman baseball writer big J journalist tweeted after bad umpire Carlos Ramos owes Serena an apology and also the fans who came to watch parentheses me and my family included.
So sir he's demanding an apology from the chair umpire a personal apology.
You got to really have your head up your own fucking ass for that.
To wait he's asking for an apology for the way that he made Serena act towards him.
Yes.
For exposing him to Serena.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's fair.
Yeah.
He and his family.
Yeah.
I think it was mostly for the kids.
Yeah.
Everyone needs an apology.
Yeah.
Direct apology.
Either way that was so much tennis that we had to like it took over a lot.
I actually just took a nap.
I tennis started just cascading my my timeline and I was like I'm just gonna take a nap and I'll wake up.
Yeah.
All I want to talk about is just the lady that dipped her chicken tender into coke.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
That's that's as much tennis as I feel comfortable discussing on this show.
Yeah.
Right.
So speaking of football we have hermetology.
We were very wrong about Herm Edwards.
Herm Edwards won a big game against Michigan State and I actually think Herm Edwards like
they they now do this thing that I watched the whole game.
They're like he's running it like a CEO.
No he really is.
And they had the whole structure set up and I'm now I can't believe I'm sitting here saying
this but I think I believe in her.
I think Herm Edwards could recruit me.
Yeah.
No he definitely could recruit you.
Just could he make you into a good football player?
No.
I saw ESPN I turned I turned it on like Saturday night after the game was over and they said
they went out of their way to be like and Herm managed the clock perfectly at the end
of the game.
That's like his one duty is like not fuck up timeouts and stuff at the end and they
didn't discuss anything else they did but they were just like his clock man.
He's not calling play.
He's just incredible.
He's just hitting the start button at the right time.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I think I don't know.
I think about some about Herm when he's got his swagger going.
You can you can feel it.
You can feel that you can start drinking the Kool-Aid.
Yeah.
I know a hundred percent.
I agree.
Steve and Che are resident Bucks fan.
Here he's the producer of EAC.
He doesn't mean Herm Edwards impression.
You should get him to do it.
Okay.
I'm going to get him.
Yeah.
That's a weird thing for him to have in his.
Really really good impression.
That's a very weird thing to have in this arsenal.
Okay.
Last up we have what's the beef and we have a shitload of beasts to go through.
So Hank you're going to help us with this.
The first up is Kevin Durant and LeBron did a rap song together.
That is not beef.
I don't think they squashed the beef.
They squashed a beef that I don't think existed.
Yeah.
In the fans minds it did.
This is such a classic LeBron thing to do.
Yeah.
They also they also dropped it at a very unfortunate time with the very sad passing
Mac Miller that kind of overshadowed it.
Oh wow.
Insensitive of them.
They should have deleted it.
Yeah.
Well I mean like I think if they dropped it on a Friday and nothing else had happened
it would have been a much bigger story.
I like how they dropped it on a Friday like it's a new album that's coming out.
Right.
Right.
Check out my new Mac.
Katie kind of had bars though.
Really?
LeBron was terrible and he obviously like LeBron had to throw on the lines about how
like how humble he is and came from nothing blah blah blah blah blah.
Katie's unbiased.
He's unbiased critic.
LeBron raps like he wants one of his best friends to have like killed someone or like
been said to jail or something but like he doesn't have any of that.
Right.
Right.
You know it's funny like I bet you he got Katie to be on that song just for the marketing
because Katie's got all those burners and can just reply to all sorts of tweets like
check out my SoundCloud.
Yup.
So, so beef squashed.
Beef squashed.
Whatever beef.
It was a beef Hank.
If you make a beef and if a fan makes a beef in their head like that's a beef.
Okay.
That's for sure beef.
Beef squashed.
Okay.
They're probably playing this.
Good to see them move on.
Yeah.
Katie will go.
Glad this didn't turn into like a two-pot piggy situation.
Yeah.
As soon as LeBron gets that thing turned around in LA Katie will probably join him.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next one we have Machine Gun Kelly verse Eminem.
Machine Gun Kelly kind of killed Eminem.
We went to a Machine Gun Kelly concert.
Yes we did.
It was in between the first and the second quarter of his calves game.
Yeah.
They just they imposed Machine Gun Kelly on us.
Yeah.
He just jumped up and started rapping and we're like what's going on.
They didn't even dim the lights for him.
So this beef goes back to like 2012.
Machine Gun Kelly tweeted that Eminem's daughter who was 16 at the time was super hot.
She kind of is.
Not at that time.
Not at that time.
She's now.
Yes.
The 16 year old girl.
No.
Not at that time.
She wasn't.
Now she is.
So this was 2012.
Eminem didn't respond until last week when he dropped his album through a couple shots
at him and then Machine Gun Kelly put out a whole diss track which kind of like buried
Eminem.
Eminem hasn't commented on it since.
Well it's like somehow some way Eminem managed to get like bodied by Machine Gun Kelly.
It takes Eminem like you know six years to come out with an album because he's got so
many fucking words.
I've never met a guy that uses more words than Eminem.
But Eminem is on a different level than Machine Gun Kelly.
Yes.
But that's what she Alliance don't concern themselves with.
No.
But Eminem Eminem started it by mentioning Machine Gun Kelly's like you're correct.
But he started it like he said Machine Gun Kelly's name on a song.
Okay.
So throwing shade at him.
So he should have done that.
Machine Kelly responded and acknowledged him bodied him and Eminem is feeling very up
to date on all this stuff.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Machine Gun Kelly beat Eminem.
Beef number two.
Yes.
Beef number three.
Nicki Minaj through a shoe.
And Nicki Minaj.
Yes.
Why?
Because.
Who fucked who?
Because she heard she was talking shit.
Yeah.
Nicki Minaj had some sub lyrics in her album and then apparently she was talking shit
about Cardi B's daughter and how she's a bad mother.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
As a mother.
But wait didn't Cardi B have her kid like a month ago?
Yeah.
So how do you even know if she's a bad mother yet?
Exactly.
Well that's Cardi B's.
That's Cardi B's.
She hasn't she hasn't put her kid on an album yet.
Yeah.
True.
So another Barso employee he used to work for VH1 and produced Love and Hip Hop when
Cardi B was on it.
Yeah.
So that he produced one of the reunion shows and that they had to take Cardi B and her
sister's shoes away from them because they wouldn't stop throwing shoes at people.
So this is right up Cardi B's alley.
It's like that little dude from Austin Powers.
Yes.
That's fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Don't get Cardi B and a George Bush in the same room.
I would never.
Well no she would take George Bush out if she had been that Iraqi cameraman then George
Bush would be dead right now.
Wait.
So she's just a shoe thrower.
Yes.
And so that's a hell of a move.
Yeah.
That's a great thing.
I actually want to bring shoe throwing back.
She was solo at the event and Nicki Minaj had like her whole crew and Cardi B just one
at her.
I'm team Cardi B by the way.
Oh yeah.
You can't you can't be team.
That's my that's my queen.
The Nicki Nicki the Nicki is the whole reason for the meek and Drake beef.
Yeah.
She's trouble.
Damn.
That Nicki she's she's big.
She's a handful.
Yeah.
She also her ass has gotten too big.
I'll just say it.
Yeah.
It's like that.
Yeah.
She got injections.
Yeah.
Keep it all natural.
We care about your brain.
Yeah.
Not your ass.
Okay.
And your flow your lyrical flow.
Yes.
Exactly.
And the flow.
Oh did you.
Okay.
Let's finish with this.
We have Michael Bennett coming on Wednesday.
Okay.
I had an epiphany today when I was doing my fantasy corner in the morning.
Someone asked if they go like a dessert or what.
Yeah.
What an epiphany.
Yeah.
Like a frozen treat.
Yeah.
It's got a little it's like a little cream coming out of it.
So someone asked if you go to your friend's house to watch football all Sunday, are you
allowed to take a shit in their apartment?
Hmm.
I well.
So there are a couple questions.
Yes.
Couple questions here.
How many bathrooms.
How many bathrooms do they have.
Okay.
So here's what I came up with.
It's it's actually a formula that you multiply the number of bathrooms times the feet from
the couch to the bathroom.
And if it's anything under 30, then you can't take a shit there.
So if like if there's a bathroom 20 feet away from the couch, but there's only one
bathroom in the whole house, you can't do it.
I would say it all.
It also depends how many people are there.
Yeah.
So if there's five people there, then I would say probably not.
Okay.
It's just you and your buddy and you're there all day.
Yeah.
I think you can't take a shit.
You can do a quick one too.
Yeah.
Where it's like you just you get there.
You do like, you know, you know, when you do like the 35 second ones.
Yeah.
You're like, this wasn't real shit, but it was just more.
I was speedy.
I kept on farting.
Yeah.
My butt is very dirty.
And I'm back, but it's, I've been in houses where it's like, this would be very uncomfortable.
Someone took a shit here.
Yeah.
I think, I think it's if you have over four people, Hank, you're just a problem.
No matter what.
Well, it depends what kind of shit you are.
Like I'm sure all your shit smell like absolute shit.
Whoa.
So your smell like roses.
Like more than more often than not, my shits are not legal.
You just shits me.
Yeah.
He did.
I didn't shits me.
He said, you look like a guy that takes smelly shit.
You just shits him.
And to be fair, you do.
Damn.
I was just adding insult to injury tonight.
Yeah.
I haven't gone through enough.
Now you're shitshaming me.
No, I'm just speaking facts.
So these are truths.
Okay.
What about PFT?
Does he look like this guy?
He takes smelly shit?
Yes.
Remember, he's smelly soup.
Yeah.
He's a queso guy.
Yeah.
No, I had some good queso on Friday too.
Just loaded up on it.
That's my whole dinner.
But like skinny people don't like take brutal shit.
So it's like, if you're going to shit in a toilet, if you, if you shit in a toilet and
no one knows you shit in a toilet, did you really shit in a toilet?
I regret bringing this whole thing up.
Riddle me that, pick it up.
Pick it up.
Don't bring your golden corral shits over to my house.
Oh my God.
All right.
That's our show.
Good talk.
We'll see you on Wednesday with Michael Bennett.
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