Pardon My Take - 49ers HC Kyle Shanahan + Mt Rushmore Of Travel Complaints With Peter King

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we are live from you, motherfucker, yeah, I don't trust these mics. I didn't say anything. Okay, here we go. Three, two, one.

Starting point is 00:00:20 On today's part of my take, we are live from 49ers camp in Cali, we're on our training camp tour. We also ran into good friend, big J journalist, Peter King. So we got Kyle Shanahan, head coach of the San Francisco 49ers, and Peter King doing the Mount Rushmore of travel complaints, which I'll say right now, the funniest Mount Rushmore that has been done. He delivered. He delivered.

Starting point is 00:00:44 This was definitely Peter King's wheelhouse, and I thought for a second he was to come with some like normie complaints. No. Nope. These are classic Peter King complaints. Very specific. We're two for two on our last Mount Rushmores of having guests that were like built for their Mount Rushmore.

Starting point is 00:00:56 Dynasty. Yes. Uh, before we get to all that though, our training camp tour, so we are here in San Francisco. We're going down to LA tomorrow for the Rams. It is brought to you by Direct TV because football, PFT is back. It's back. Direct TV NFL Sunday ticket.

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Starting point is 00:03:44 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:04:53 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:05:55 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I've been in and out for a couple holes. You know what I loved about tiger is like he was everything that he was supposed to be He was like electric. He was hitting these crazy hook and cut shots and stuff He was wearing the red and he refused to put away this driver. Yep, that was so perfect He was like fuck it I'm gonna keep hitting my driver today if Tiger Woods had if his shaft on the driver was a stick of dynamite that had a Two-second fuse. He'd still be like hand that to you. Yes. Hey me that motherfucker in classic golf fashion

Starting point is 00:06:33 He absolutely smoked his driver right down the fairway on the 18th. So his next turn He's gonna be like I was hitting my driver. Well, I can build on that That's exactly how every round of golf for me goes. It's like I hit one nice chip shot I'm like 17 and right when I'm ready to give up golf golf for good. This shit's easy and I'm like, yeah Yeah, it's not that hard. So Kepka. Yeah, it's actually here's my spin zone on that I think that Tiger Woods is playing as well as he's played in the last like 15 years even not just like the last 10 No, that's wrong But Kepka, I'm sorry

Starting point is 00:07:03 Were you ready for this Kepka is better than Tiger Woods was at his peak, right? No, that's also wrong. No, yeah No, he's bombing his driver Tiger has got those there's never ever a golfer like him. No, no hair whatsoever on Brooks Kepka's arms Okay, so that was that was a bad take. That's okay. No, you're caught in the moment And so you're you're a victim of the moment. I just think he's underappreciated all he does is win majors The problem is that's fair. He's not a very exciting guy Well, he's just the dude with the big arms He needs to have like something he needs to change his hat to like the Greg Norman cowboy hat thing or he needs to just like say He's us. No, not Austria in South African would be awesome for him. Well, I got a theory about it

Starting point is 00:07:42 One is like you said his look he is he's too handsome He doesn't have anything we can make fun of like he either needs some man boobs or balding hair Like whatever something something we like ha ha that guy's just like us to Because his name is hard to pronounce People just don't say his name. That's what I'm saying. I always just avoid names I can't say so I just don't ever say his name and then was like you forgot about Brooks Kepka Yeah, it's like bro. I don't know how to say his name. So I'm just not gonna look dumb the O before the E Yeah, whenever I see that I'm like wait shouldn't that be the one where those two letters are like touching each other

Starting point is 00:08:13 Yeah, and you have to like say it weird and spit on the person that you're talking to yes Yeah, but that's what I'm saying if you just got like South African citizenship Brooks Kepka. Yeah, that actually sounds good, right? Yeah, that does sound good a little rebrand. We have more on Brooks Kukie Brooks Kipka groups groups groups Krapka After the interviews Kalashana We're gonna do a little Rick Riley reading for the folks because he actually wrote about how no one's talking about Koopa Troopa Kepka Bermuda. Yeah before we move off of golf. Can we discuss the course?

Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, we need a sickening course and sickening showing by the course this weekend disgusting lowest I think score in a PJ championship and Jordan speed throwing a ball into the water. I'm That's my the sound of me puking. Can you call I'm faking you come about that I know they don't let us call in rule violations at home anymore But even though Rick Riley did try on Tiger Woods He tried to snitch on Tiger after the whole world was like this is the greatest moment in golf in like ten years Tigers back It's awesome. This is so exciting and then Rick Riley comes over the top. He's like, hey, did Tiger Did he swing did he hit that ball like out of bounds or something did he ground his club?

Starting point is 00:09:22 Did you ground it? Yeah, and what's funny is ground your club. You hit your club on the ground for what the fuck Go suck sometimes. Yeah, so you're not allowed to call in rules violations But you should be allowed to call the cops on Jordan speed Yeah, that's wrong and Rick Riley and I'm right. So shitty showing by the course. I'm disappointed in you st. Louis Yet again. Yes Lock up lock up the course Rick Riley Jordan speed do you think Hillary Clinton just for could could Alabama beat the course? Yeah I mean, I'll be rolling over that. Yeah, I think so you cons women's basketball could beat that easily easily

Starting point is 00:09:56 So do you want to talk about Cali? Yeah, let's yeah, let's get a swag. So Cali. This is the new segment called swag talk. All right, so Trav Welcome back to swag talk. I was with my boys pit and some Snarly ass surf the other day and I saw a baby seal and It has straw in its mouth because all these fucking loser liberal Well, no, we're liberals these loser snowflake New Yorkers are still drinking with straws in their Starbucks Disgusting really like and it was a sea lion too. I wasn't gonna correct you in the moment because I'm a supporter part That's living animals life

Starting point is 00:10:34 But it was pretty chill that we got to save its life And then I was like pit would suck was I got back to the car and I somebody stole my tech decks So I had a sweet no, bro. You're just probably too high. You forgot you didn't even bring them That's true. I love them at my stepdad's house. Yeah, that's what he's actually really good. Yeah, he's cool, too No, he's yeah, like he's like do you like smoking shit? He likes shares bond Yeah, he like buys beer for like my girlfriends and stuff. How old are we? Oh So we are actually in Cali and I am I we did go to In-N-Out and we went we landed on Saturday night

Starting point is 00:11:07 At like one in the morning we went straight to In-N-Out because Hank is Trying to fatten us up and kill us mission accomplished And we went to In-N-Out and every single person in that In-N-Out at one in the morning Was under the age of 18 and blazed as Like high as you've ever seen and I was petrified there There were literally like nine and ten year olds in there that were high. Yeah, and they're just like what the fuck you looking at cop I was so scared and I made a note when we're in there I typed it I was like don't forget this because what started to happen was if you're around enough high people

Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah under fluorescent lights you start to feel like you're high, too And so I was like I better write this down before my short-term memory kicks out So high right now and I wrote down like why are all these children high yeah, California And then we're leaving in big cats like every teenager in there was high Yeah, and just intimidating the hell out of me We went to Niners camp on Sunday, which was awesome because shout out to Bob Lang great host And it was fun to play big J. We went to the practice. We even stood there I was actually talking to some guy who like works for NBC Sports Bay area and I was like

Starting point is 00:12:14 Hey, are you counting like Garoppolo's completions and he's like yeah I'm trying to and then I kept on asking him questions and then he just walked away from me Yeah, cuz I was bothering him so much you're fucking up the count Well, I was trying to count it to and I lost count after three passes Yeah, I just couldn't pay attention long enough, but it's cool like that like being like hey nine for eleven with one interception We we almost proved our bad luck again though because you'll remember last time we're invited to a camp Teddy Bridge waters leg fell out And everybody threw up. Yep, and he almost died And right in front of us McKinnon heard his knee

Starting point is 00:12:47 Yes, and he limped to the sidelines and they were testing him for an ACL I was the first to report and I quote. I don't think it's that bad. Yeah, so as before he got his MRI I I broke the news that I'm okay. I didn't think it was that bad. Yeah, they're saying it's just a calf strain Oh, we gooch. Yeah, so he's fine. He's gonna sit out a week Yeah, so we had a great time to shout out also to the grounds crew at the 49ers at Levi's Stadium They let us basically hang out in their office all day And we just we set up shop We got to interview shot hoops got to interview Peter King got to interview Kyle Shanahan John Lynch coming

Starting point is 00:13:23 Sometime in the next couple weeks really fun day. We watched Tiger Woods with Peter King. Yes He was screaming at the TV just like us So maybe in his football morning in America column tomorrow morning You might get a little nugget from us. He likes to say it might get weirdish. Yes So should we do who's back before we get to you? Whom's back so that we think do I go first? Oh, I got a who's back to just start for the whole podcast We look like fucking idiots with these new mics. I mean it sounds better I think so it looks like cool because you can actually see our faces and we don't have headgear on

Starting point is 00:13:54 But I do feel like we are officially douchebags This is a big time Like you know that like just otherwise and be like the douchebags who have a podcast This is what they do. So when you guys are wearing fucking headsets that make you Yes, exactly Shitty microphones, huh? You had to hold them. Yep. That was that was gritty this like if you close your eyes, you're like, how would someone from

Starting point is 00:14:26 NPR or The ringer do a podcast in a hotel room. This is it. Well, I take that as a compliment. Okay. All right next level My who's back the week is swaggy little leakers. Oh, okay Big Al took the took the took the internet by storm this weekend He did it. He did is like they have one every single year where some kid like this says some hilarious. He came out He's like my name's big out. I love to think And that's what he does he's hit the bomb. Yeah, does he actually hit dingers is he like a good baseball player? Well, he hits home runs. I think that's all you can do

Starting point is 00:14:59 Can I ask a question and I don't want to be this guy, but I have to ask the question permission to your other granted Do you think there'll be a point where these kids become a little self-aware and start doing this because big Al is like so beautiful because he's genuine. He's yeah He's like we're gonna get to that point where they're gonna try to start making sound bites and stuff and it's gonna ruin it But I love big out Do you think that might happen or you think the age thing will keep us pure and you know? Because what's gonna happen is you're gonna get a you're gonna get a coach that wants right him to go viral I don't want it to happen and then he's gonna coach the guys on what you guys got to stop saying it's a woke

Starting point is 00:15:33 We're talking about 12 year olds playing little league baseball. Yeah, there's nothing more pure and wholesome than that Then what you try and you guys are trying to ruin it Gambling on them and screaming at them and then laughing when they cry. Yeah, that's big Al though dingers for sure Yes, well, yeah, that was his another who's back that I noticed last week I don't know this is I wasn't too in touch with all the journalism last year But I've noticed a lot more reporters reporting on coaches working out before the games. Yeah, so like coaches running stairs I know it's like four or five different coaches. It's like XX coaches here like running stairs before the game Yeah, if labels doing it. Yeah, that's not all all the people think that there's a chance that he might get into the game

Starting point is 00:16:13 I think there might be a chance. Yeah, I think there might be a chance He could get in the game and do pretty well Mm-hmm. I think I think the Patriots coaches all do it before the game because they are secretly trying to kill themselves and give Them so it's heart attacks because they don't want to have to coach me Yeah, well, they don't have to deal with Belichick screaming at them for the next three hours Do you think anyone in the chief's locker rooms like hey Andy you want to run some stairs? No, it'd be a great scene. Yeah, Andy. This is a new trend. We're all trying to get back in shape Yeah

Starting point is 00:16:39 If somebody made Andy Reed try to run stadium stairs First thing he would do would go to vice president of stadium operations next day and put in escalators Yeah, and just feel or just be like there's no like a tarp around the entire chief stadium So you can't walk through any of the stairs. Hey, can we get a couple of milkshake vendor deals along the stairs? Yeah, people can take a break put a rest area in there. Hank. Is that it? Yep. Okay, PFT All right Hit us with it. My hooms back of the week is training camp fights. I had that too. Yeah, the R words and the J words Yep

Starting point is 00:17:11 We're fighting at training camp and then it spilled over to the stands Which is great because then Redskins fans and Jets fans started fighting each other to mm-hmm, which is just wonderful I it's I like what I like so much is when you hear the first person say like, you know The boys are just so you get out there and hit somebody else for a change Yes, and you get to this point of the summer where we're about two weeks into training camp and they haven't really everyone's probably sick Of it at this point and it's just like let's just get in a fight. So we get kicked out of practice. Yeah Yeah, it's like hot and humid and they're like, you know what I can go inside I can get and get kicked out and go sitting air conditioning. Yes, that's why Jalen Ramsey was so smart to get suspended true

Starting point is 00:17:50 That's that that's a great treat for him for going after the media. Yeah, which I appreciate. Yeah, I keep us in check Can we get suspended for going after Jalen Ramsey going after Jalen Ramsey or each other? Or going after players. Yeah, that'd be Kevin Durant would have had us suspended already. That's true million times over All right. So that was my first who's back of the week. Yeah My second who's back of the week is oh actually that's my only who's back. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah I you so you had the first one. I only had two. So do you have another one? No, no Yeah, I was gonna say the Steelers fan that puts on all yeah Yeah, yeah, so my my who's back is Mike Tom and losing control of his team

Starting point is 00:18:26 Okay, because like you just alluded to this tweet a fan dressed in pads in a helmet made it past security and tried to take Part in some drills at the beginning of today's practice He was seen being escorted off campus the Steelers had no comment and Mike Tomlin declined to address the incident after practice What kind of fucking? Training camp are you running Mike Tomlin? That's a brilliant move did a fan can just put on some pads and jump in It's like that guy Cortez in Arizona. Love him legend of the game. I like it I good for that guy like I wish he had gotten it into a drill and just got his ass wiped out Yeah, or if he had just stuck around long enough that he made the team

Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, that also could have happened. Mm-hmm. There's a guy like that at Gillette uses weight outside Right where people would go in the entrance and just ask Bill Belichick for a tryout. Oh, yeah The guy who was pretending he was homeless, right? Yeah, I feel like that happens every now and then there were a couple of those guys a few years ago Yes, there's one outside the Texans training camp too, but he was trying to be a wide receiver They didn't have anybody so it was like yeah, actually maybe this guy could get it right like a little tip there Don't go to Steelers camp don't go to Patriots camp go to like the Browns, right? The Bears literally we're getting guys off the streets last year for wide receiver Just go to a team that actually needs talent and you might actually just fit in long if this dude had showed up to

Starting point is 00:19:38 Seahawks training camp wearing an offensive line jersey Tom Cable might have been like I can work with us Yes, exactly five months in a room with him and I'll turn him into a right guard. Can he can he handle a fist fight with me? Okay, fine signed. Yeah So we have our Mount Rushmore. We do Mount Mount Rushmore travel complaints It's with Peter King and he brought it like seriously brought it Before we do that though a couple quick words. Oh, sorry my mic my new mic my douchebag mic get fucked up Is my douchebag mic fine? You're good. Okay. Uh, so a couple quick words from our sponsor cash app cash app is our number one fantasy

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Starting point is 00:22:32 Slash pmt fantasy football yahoo.com slash pmt fantasy football Okay, peter king and the mount rushmore of travel complaints Okay, we have our good friend peter king multiple recurring guests three times recurring guests. We're at 49ers camp Uh, all the big j journalists are here Austin you right well I don't think that i'm anywhere near your level

Starting point is 00:23:05 Yet, but i'm gonna try who i'm i'm gonna try i'm 61 years old now And my goal is to try to get to your level a little tip next interview that you do who are you interviewing while you're out here I'm interviewing jimmy g. Okay. Show him a picture of peter roth's penis. That's nice. Yeah, that would elevate you That's the last that would elevate you. Yeah, we know he's in the porn stars. So it works So we are here we we ran into you at training camp watching practice And we thought let's do a mount rushmore because we are traveling you're traveling. You've been to how many camps so far 14 14. Are you gonna hit all of them? No, okay. How many 20 20? Oh, it's just a 20. Whatever. Yeah, piddling. Yeah A piddling some we are going to do the mount rush, but I also was at mike florio's house. Yeah

Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, we have been to as well. Did you go down to his wine cellar? I did it's actually just a dungeon I think he just it's kind of a dungeon. He hasn't really filled it up because he's not joe wine Yeah, your co-worker mike florio. He is. Yeah, you were on mbc. I I believe you should refer to him as my underling Yeah, you're his your peter king is mike florio's boss. That's the narrative that we're gonna go like that So, uh, because we're traveling we're gonna do the mount rush more Of travel complaints, but before we do that You want to do quickly your top four micro brews? Yeah, we should do the the top four micro brews Why do you do four instead of either three or five or ten mount rush more so mount rush more

Starting point is 00:24:29 Nice, okay. All right ours are my number one is bud light. My number one is bud light platinum bud light lime bud light orange Um bud light draft. Yeah, wait a minute, but there's no such thing as bud light orange. Yes. Oh, yes Oh, yes, they are brewed with real lime and oranges. Mm-hmm peter Okay, sorry friends. Sorry, uh, so you give us your four We just give you all of ours and then we'll do the mount rush more travel Okay, I'm gonna give you an upset. Do I start with number four? Yeah, just do yeah, whatever order you want I'm gonna I'm gonna start with number four. Okay. It is called Uh, the hinterland

Starting point is 00:25:05 A cherry wheat beer. Okay, man card. Hi. I'm sherry is from northern wisconsin Every ingredient in here is a wisconsin ingredient So you guys are so impressed with that sausage Which reminds me I went around on my training camp trip asking a lot of players around the league All kinds of for me weird questions like kale good or evil So so you're getting really funky with but I did ask I did ask miles garret

Starting point is 00:25:40 If you could only eat one food for the rest of your life, what would you eat? He goes Oh, I'd eat my mother's oatmeal. Oh, well, okay That's nice oatmeal oatmeal and he and I said give me the ingredients one of you one of the ingredients in his mother's oatmeal is sausage Oh, that sounds delicious. Now that is good oatmeal. Yes. Okay. The second, uh, You know my second micro brew that I like a lot is peroni It is micro brewed in italy In gigantic batches and I drink the peroni in the united states But if you as long as you drink it out of a small glass, it's a micro brew. Yeah, that's of course

Starting point is 00:26:17 And then um, I like this this beer also from wisconsin it's called, uh It's called luna Um shoot. What is the last name of it? I'm trying to remember. I should know what was his father's name? It's a coffee It's a it's a coffee stout. Mm luna coffee stout Now can you drink a stout in the winter or you can drink it in the wintertime? But can you drink it in the summertime? Like yeah, it's just like a Guinness It tastes like Guinness with a little bit of espresso in there. There's nothing wrong with that two things that I really like a lot

Starting point is 00:26:50 Do you like spotted cow? I love the cow. Yeah, love the cow's good. It's mike silvers beer The spotted cow is great because they actually arrest people who sell spotted cow outside the state of wisconsin And you can go to the airport in madison wisconsin and go through security And buy 12 packs of spotted cow that you can take on the white cross state lines Yeah, can you buy it in in minnesota? No, no, you cannot buy it. No, you can't buy spotted cow in minnesota It's against the law. I'm not i'm not lying when they get that law of return Like there'll be a story maybe once every couple years where uh, minnesota Restaurant will have a legal spotted cow kegs in the back like it and it'd be like off menu the old chapeau of minnesota

Starting point is 00:27:35 Okay, but the last one is alagash white which i made famous And you know, I mean it's a little bit of a cliche Yeah, but I mean I have two or three alagash whites a week. I mean it's good beer. What more can I tell you? You've done delicious for the alagash white brand what uh, maybe odell beckham has done for the supreme label Nice very nice. Yeah, I think I have I'm looking at our producers and they're both shaking their heads because they know how wrong that was That is just you you have done for alagash what odell beckham has done for cocaine. There we go. Well, thank you I I like to do I like to do my service. Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, those are four good picks

Starting point is 00:28:11 I'm glad that alagash was number one because otherwise it would just walked out that would have been so disappointing Yeah, but we do have we've got our travel complaints ready to go to now the way that we do this Is like a snake draft style. So we'll let you go first Then big cat will go then I'll go twice back to big cat than you I I've got I've got two really big, uh, sort of You know points of contention as I travel around the united states one is that you're only going one right now At many marriott properties. Okay for some reason they have trained the housekeepers to close the drain

Starting point is 00:28:48 In the bathtub And so when you get in the shower and you started all of a sudden you got water all around your ankles And you're saying and pee who would simply who would do this last night fairfield in in suites in where was I last night in uh glendale, arizona fairfield in in suites The the the the drain is closed. So what happens? I get in there to take a shower this morning I look down and I'm in a pool of my own tepid filth. Oh, and what you have to do I had to go do it myself Wow, that's that's terrible, but it's like that at every single marriott. That's a corporate policy

Starting point is 00:29:28 It must be a corporate policy because many times That happens. You're real shame if everybody tweeted up marriott. Yeah, be a damn shame. Yeah, all right My pick I'll just go with flight delays. We all deal with it as a big j journalist. You deal with it. It's the worst You don't know what's gonna go on It's one of the reasons why My training camp trip the vast majority of it every year we drive Yes, because you know, you can't cancel a drive. Correct. Even in a rainstorm. Yep, you just go Well, and even if it's like traffic jam, you just take the bike lane. Yeah, sure

Starting point is 00:29:59 I have done that before every mistake. Do you want to hear the story though? Yes, please I think I think you told us. No, tell it again. No, did I tell you tell it again? I did tell you Yeah, it was philip rivers. Yeah, and philip rivers had x amount of time And if I didn't get there in x amount of time, I was not interviewing philip rivers. That's why I was there that day He has an insemination schedule that he has to stick with his wife. The amount I don't think he would like that. Yeah, the amount of time that you have with philip rivers that equals to how many bikers lives 14 okay, there we go. So I think it was worth it. Yeah, you got the interview, right? Yes. Okay. Good. All is well that ends well My first one is going to be

Starting point is 00:30:40 Um, I'm just going to go hotel room not ready for check-in yet. That's a good one Especially if you're tired you've been on the road for a while and it's you know It's in the afternoon sometimes like five six o'clock and no here's the thing Here's the thing if you get to a hotel and it's 253 and your room isn't ready yet That's observed. What have they been doing? Yeah, what have they been doing? They've been spending all their time pushing the shower drain thing down. Yeah, I had to wait that adds up You guys ready for this? Youngestown, Ohio set the scene for you. Youngestown, Ohio for the rough and rowdy fights last weekend I had to wait till 345 for my check-in. That's a darn out. I got there 230. It's a down out

Starting point is 00:31:17 It was absolutely disgusting. I sat there. I ate all the cookies because they had the free warm cookies So I just ate like six of those and I just laid on the couches. It was terrible. How about the one other one that I'll give you Wait, do I have time? No, no, no, no. No, you have time. I'm gonna go draft. So I'm going back. Yeah, we come back You're gonna have four. You're gonna have four. Okay. My second one is going to be Wi-Fi broken on the plane. Yeah When you're when it has a Wi-Fi logo on the side and you're all prepared to watch some good internet And you get on there and you just can't do any work. Yep. That's a great travel Especially when you're on deadline. Yep. Um, all right

Starting point is 00:31:51 My next one is going to be when your air conditioner doesn't get cold in a hotel room when it's either you can't control it Or you'll say like you'll say like you're at 68 and it just won't feel like it's 68 Right. You'd be like, this is 72. Like I don't mind me. I know it's 72, but I want it to be 68 the worst Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, you want me to give you mine? Yeah. Yeah airplane farters Oh, yeah, okay. You you strike me as a guy that might do that I'm not saying anything right now. I have no comment on that at this time but The airplane farter of all time was on a when continental was still in airline

Starting point is 00:32:29 I was flying from newark to providence So maybe 38 minute flight And i'm going from newark to providence and we are on a flight with maybe 16 seats on the plane tiny plane But it's one of those things that you can't even stand up All together in the in the airplane. You got to kind of hunch over So there's a guy in front of me and I suspect that he's a farter because here's what he's doing Oh, he's lifting the cheeks on you. That is he's doing it. That's a savage Yeah, and so the guy across the aisle from him at one point said, hey, hey

Starting point is 00:33:06 sir And the guy and the guy said what and he goes will you please stop? And this guy would not admit what he was doing Because people who are serial farters don't usually admit it because they're ashamed. Yeah. Yeah, and and all I can say is We were trapped Exactly like you were in You know, you you have noxious gas In a very small area and all you can do is smell this fart man

Starting point is 00:33:40 And it was brutal. I didn't like it. Yeah. All right. Now you got another one. Yeah, my other one now This one third pick. Yeah, this is my third pick Or some would say my third pick This is this is what it wasn't that funny No, but but here's the one to me that really really bothers me you check into a hotel And maybe you're paying $17 a night and they say oh and so if you want internet in the room You're paying an extra $16. Yep up. So yep. Tell me please the worst. That's awful. All right, you all right

Starting point is 00:34:18 My third travel complaint is uh, james hardon's little step back move that he does That is absolutely a travel to walk every single time. He tried he travels and they never call it That's they never call it. They never traveling is not called in the nba. Exactly. It's disgusting not my nba That's why I watch college basketball. It's a better product. Okay. My third one is going to be um When there's only one pack of coffee in a hotel room And you want that maybe the room service doesn't come in or the maid doesn't come in Change your room overnight and you still you have that one that you've already drank

Starting point is 00:34:53 And so your second night in the hotel Next morning no coffee to wake up. Yep. That's bad. I hate that one. That's bad. And then my last one is uh, no lotion Yep, when they don't give you a lotion you like lotion in the room. Why why do you like lotion? I enjoy lotion. Yeah, okay You know why I hate you All right, my fourth I've noticed it's actually gotten better, but I still See it as a problem probably half the hotels that go to TV not having a menu So you go and you know tv guides. You don't know what that's really good

Starting point is 00:35:24 That's very and you just basically have to guess the channels the whole time. Yeah, you gotta see and then you have to figure out Okay, i'm watching espn now. I want to watch something else and you just have no idea where you're going, right? okay, here's the last thing that I would say and The only reason I save this until last is because I know that everybody who watches this or Experiences this in whatever way they're going to say We really hate peter king much more than we really than formerly we thought we did It has to do with the quality of coffee on amtrak trains Yes, coffee flavored water go off. Yes. It is grim. It's horrible. It used to be green mountain

Starting point is 00:36:07 And I think they use the filter 16 times now it's true. Now your truth now It's dunking donuts and I think they put the same car the water through the same filter Seven times. Yep. Amen. And I always get the 27th time And it tastes like barely coffee flavored water. Yep, and I am not putting up with that. Yeah, okay Thank you for your service that one That's a great one because there's nothing worse than thinking you're gonna get a good cup of coffee And you get dil wheat coffee. Yeah, and amtrak used to be known for their great coffee No, he didn't never been known for their coffee. Yeah, it was better than their coffee's always been terrible

Starting point is 00:36:42 Uh, okay, and I love amtrak, but yeah bad coffee So I noticed you didn't include well, we have some honorable mentions, right? Go ahead. Yeah, um people that talk in the quiet car I'm surprised you just said that. I dislike people who talk in the quiet car. You were a pioneer Talkers and journalists to that No, I I understand that in other parts of the train you have to talk. Yeah Um, how about this one though? How about the people who are in the hallway in hotels? Yeah at 2 15 And they're having a conversation 2 15 whether or not they're partying whatever it is. This gets my honorable mention

Starting point is 00:37:20 Dill weeds who are talking at 2 45 a.m In the fair field in in suites. Are you a confrontation guy? Will you step out? No? No, I won't sit there. No, no You know what I'll do. I'll tell you what I'll do. I will call the front. Oh, you know and say we got a couple of dill weeds at all All right, I also have For subway travel when you can't sit down I have a lot of fat on the midsection. So it's bad on the knees Off that one is the hot train as well. Hot train is terrible. They don't have the air conditioning Talkers on a plane when the person next to you wants to have a full conversation. You're like, and you don't I just want to

Starting point is 00:37:56 Sit here and and deal with this How about the time that I wanted to talk to neil de grass tyson on an airplane and he sat right next to me How about that? He fell asleep. Oh, he was having none of me. He wanted none of sports Maybe the most intellectually curious man in the world. Do you put him to sleep? Yes? I did And he slept the whole way, but you know what I think happened I think he was faking it because he absolutely did not want to talk sports. No way I wanted to talk astronomy. Yeah When do you have a chance to talk astronomy? We would have talked meteorology and astronomy

Starting point is 00:38:31 That's that would have been wonderful. Yeah, that's tough one. What about when you're traveling for work and like a celebrity dies And you don't have anybody to tell Then I have to tell the waiter. Yes. I have to say holy cow. Do you know what just happened? No, what happened? Um He died he killed himself killed himself. Yeah, did he actually cry the waiter? Nobody was very shaken up. You thought he was gonna cry. You broke news. Yeah I was I mean, I probably would have been better off breaking wind Because it was turned out to be not a great thing. Yeah, but I do think I do take credit for this

Starting point is 00:39:09 I never erased the tweet. Yeah, it's never anniversary. It was two days ago. Yeah. Oh, it was. Yes. Wow How about that not of rob Williams death of your tweet? Well, that's a more important That's a more important anniversary That was that by the way, did you see the uh the documentary on robin? No, I need to see it. I heard it was great. It's frigging unbelievable. The greatest part is is him singing as elmer fudd Singing springsteen is elmer fudd. He's a generational talent. The guy was pretty good. Yeah. Okay. So peter. Thank you so much

Starting point is 00:39:43 Where are you off to next? I'm going to see the dallas cowboys in oxenard california. Jason Garrett hot seat I think it's toasty. It's so we don't ever talk about another man's job, but it is It's a little toasty. It's toasty. All right. Thank you so much three time recurring guest. Wow. We appreciate it Well, we're gonna come back on in the fall too. We'll talk some foot. All right That mount rushmore with peter king was brought to you by 18 birdies The rules of golf are changing. No, you can't pick up the ball and throw it out of the sand trap That's not what I mean. Rick Riley would have your ass in a sling for that

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Starting point is 00:41:35 It turns out they just used that like shelva binder to update their like Oh, okay secrets in it. Yeah, I was trying to I was trying to spy but yeah So we have a head football coach cow shanahan. I got to start as uh, big football guys We got to ask the question that everyone's wondering has it been a physical camp? Uh, yeah, it has, you know, they're all physical But you know, I think the whole thing is trying to get through it and not get each other hurt But also you got to play football. So it's going to happen and you hope you can make it more physical now So you don't during the season. I actually read something that uh, I think it was a former player played under harbaugh

Starting point is 00:42:07 And now is back with the niners saying that you are a little bit more Loose with the players a little more of a player coach than Then harbaugh was what is like the balance there of kind of giving the guys a day off or letting them have fun But also like you said playing football. Um, yeah, I mean, I don't know how they were so I just go by myself But um, you know, I look every day is a new day. So I don't have any Hey, I'm gonna act like this on this day go to page 600 to tell you how to answer this situation I just I try to assess our team see how they feel Um, we try to work them hard if I feel guys are sore and tired and

Starting point is 00:42:41 We're working them hard to where it's hurting them then I back off. So, um, you know, this year is different than last year I got a better feel for our team now than I did last year But it's always changing. It depends what I think our guys need and we base that off of film every day and Really our reps. What did you change this off season? Did you did you take away the ping pong table? Are you like being more strict or did you add a ping pong to a second ping pong table? No, I think we got two in there You know, I'm we're never taken away the ping pong table It's important. It is important. You know, it's I I want guys to hang out here. I want I'd really believe that You know, obviously you got to be talented. You got to be prepared and everything

Starting point is 00:43:14 But I always feel the tighter team the closer team has an advantage over the team That's not as tight and the only way you do that is by hanging here spending time together and I like to put Ping pong tables in there just so people kick it and they don't go home right away when they're done with their stuff and you know, I remember last year, you know, we got off to such a bad start and You know starting 0 and 9 and everything and I got Everyone's trying to solve stuff. I got players. Hey, we got to take the ping pong tables out And it's like guys, that's not why we lost five in a row by three points or less. It's it's not the ping pong tables Let's not make too big a deal about it

Starting point is 00:43:44 We just got to start not turning the ball over make those right plays and not worry about the ping pong It also gets you a macriple. Yes, that helps. Yeah So you mentioned the bad start last year you guys finished strong You are now my I call it the Regis Philbin pick Because Regis Philbin used to go on like what what was the show that the Best damn no good morning. No good morning America with cat whatever it was. Yeah. Yeah, he used to go and he'd be like Here's my pick. Here's my dark horse pick. It'd be like the most obvious pick So everyone's talking about the Niners and this is the year that they make that jump because of how you finished last year

Starting point is 00:44:19 How do you like keep that? You know from getting kind of to guys heads and also tempering the you know expectations Let's just hit him with reality. I mean we were six and ten um, you know, we we Went through a struggle last year and you know, we ended up Turning it around, you know, jimmy came in our team got better and I won't take that struggle back for anything I'll always say that's I think what made us who we are and now we got to start this over again And I get it when you end with five

Starting point is 00:44:46 I get at the hype and everything when you end the way we did But it doesn't mean anything and you got to see how your players handle when they get back And if our guys came back and hadn't worked while they were gone came and they're kind of coast and say no We just got to get to week one then I would feel panicked about it. I did dress at a ton But our team hasn't been that way our team knows that we got a lot of work ahead We know this isn't going to be easy and we know we're going to have to work for everything we do Was there a players only meeting last year? Um, I don't think so. Okay. I've always wondered about that like as a coach if there's a players only meeting or you're like

Starting point is 00:45:16 Hey, come on guys. Hey, let me get in here. No, it's uh, I thought we were friends Or you just have like a snitch who you're close with on the team tell you what happens. Yeah, we just spy on them I got yeah, you got the whole place bugged. Yeah, right. No, but it's the players only meetings They can be I mean sometimes you like them if they're done, right? Um, sometimes they can get out of control There's always some guy in there who just likes to hear himself talk and it just starts steam rolling and then guys don't make Very good points, but it depends on the type of type of team you have We got some mature guys. I know we got a lot of young players too, but you know, our guys have worked for everything

Starting point is 00:45:48 I don't think anybody just is expecting handouts and I'd be confident in our team to talk to each other that without us there What was it like, uh, having the last name shanahan being in football Do you think people kind of thought you were given, you know, special treatment when you were coming up because you You obviously have accomplished a ton as a young coach and you were hitting, you know, assistant coaches very very early Did you ever find that where people like this guy doesn't know what he's talking about? He's just getting a job because it's dead. Oh, yeah, not as You find that with everyone outside, you know, I feel like I've never had that issue With people like coach and stuff. They might think it the first time you get with them

Starting point is 00:46:22 um, just perception of human nature, but um You know, I felt very prepared and good as a coach to where it's never been an issue with players But that's been something my whole life. I mean when I made the basketball team as a sophomore in high school All the guys that didn't make it. It's the only reason I made it was because of my last name, you know, you got to walk in Is that true? Probably, yeah, I'm just joking. They didn't the basketball coach didn't care about my dad. Yeah He's got to work games too just like we do But no, those are the things that that puts a chip on your shoulder your whole life

Starting point is 00:46:50 So you want to prove everyone wrong and especially when you're younger and everything. It's um, you want to prove everyone wrong And then you know as I've gotten going you start or gone through my career You start to accept that hey, you can't deal with all the haters You just got to worry about yourself and be as good as you can and um, you know It's tough on me in washington because you know, I had a goal my whole life was you know I didn't want to work with my dad until I felt I had paid my dues and you know Before that, you know, I started in Tampa went to houston was a receiver coach the quarterback coached in the coordinator Had two years as a coordinator. Um, you know, we were number three and number four in the league

Starting point is 00:47:25 So I you know, I felt like I'd proven myself and everything. I'm like, all right You know, my dad just got fired last year if he gets back in the league. I do want to coach with him That is a goal of mine is something I if you know, if he passed away or and I never got a chance to do that I'd have huge regrets. So once he got fired. I realized when he got back in the league I was going to go work with him I didn't think it'd be a big deal since I had paid my dues I thought and then I get there and very quickly Everyone's so how was it working with your dad in denver? What's it been like?

Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm like, I don't know. It's my first day working with my dad I've never worked with him before and then you just start to realize that everyone thinks you are And it would be hard hearing every time they talked about the head coach There was always an s at the end of his name. It was the shanahans, right? And I was like, wait a second. I'm just off as a coordinator like and so yeah I had to deal with that a while and I think it made me stronger Made me a lot more battle-tested I think I went through a lot of stuff as a coordinator

Starting point is 00:48:13 Just media-wise and having answered the things that a lot of coordinators don't go through And I think it's made it a lot easier for me now that I'm a head coach that I've been battle-tested Yeah, while you're in washington, you got to coach Rg3 had a dynamic offense there. I'm talking about obviously rex grossman third People don't realize he is the real Rg3 real Rg3 Um, I remember I remember when you did get Robert Griffin in though Like the the offense that you implemented was kind of like on the bleeding edge of all this Read option stuff and then you know things happen the way they did there

Starting point is 00:48:44 Did you ever like what what's your process like in terms of evolving that offense over the last like four or five years? Because it seemed like defense has caught up to it after about a year year and a half Yeah, no, I personally don't think they ever did Um, it was the lack of being able to continue doing it You know when you when you get a quarterback who has a skill set that's he's faster than everyone And you know, that was my first time studying the zone read I had to put a lot of time into it once we made that trade That was your first time ever implementing that offense was yeah, I've never I've never coached it

Starting point is 00:49:14 I didn't even know how to do the handoff So you basically just were like we're gonna do we're gonna work to his strengths and change every philosophy Yeah, once we once I realized that that's who our quarterback was gonna be I knew that I had a very important job that it had to work And so you got to think of how can you help this guy be successful? And that's what you want to do You I mean what you look at it and look at his skill set and how can we figure this out to make him play like a first round pick And when you watch his speed his arm talent, we knew we were gonna have to use him as a runner

Starting point is 00:49:43 He hadn't totally developed in college as a pocket passer We thought that would come with time But you can't just throw a guy into the NFL who's never played in a pocket and think he will learn that in the heat of battle You can do it in practice all the time But when those when the ball snaps in an NFL game, you're gonna resort to what got you there What won you a heisman what's made you successful? And that's why you have to put in that stuff to help that guy come along now people say defenses catch up I don't get how they can catch up. It's a sound thing

Starting point is 00:50:10 It's it's reading a defensive end that makes your gaps different that makes 11 on 11 football If you don't do that, it's always 10 on 11. That's why defenses haven't advantaged in the wrong game So to do that balances it out So people have to be very smart on what they do from the schematic standpoint on d it limits all the calls they can make They now don't have enough people to fill all the gaps with the threat of the quarterback running So all that does is limit the blitzes and everything you can go against. There's no hey Defense learned how to stop it. Yeah, they just have to play simpler which allows you to open up everything else Now are you good enough to open up everything else? Can you continue to grow as a quarterback?

Starting point is 00:50:46 Can you stay healthy? Can you put all the other stuff in and if you do open up everything else? That's how you make them pay and if they go to defend that you come back to the zone read It's a very balanced thing that puts guys under duress But the quarterback has to be committed to it. He has to stay healthy The whole organization has to be committed to it and that's what I found to be very hard back stat also has to be committed to Yes, and that's that starts with the organization though If you're trying your hardest to make people successful and once they do

Starting point is 00:51:11 Um, that's what gets hard because people don't always know what was helping them be successful Especially owners and things like that And then when people start to believe the hype and dictate stuff and say you can't do certain things subway commercials And yeah, then they learn the hard way over time. Oh man, maybe we should have Allow them to do that. Maybe we should have sold tickets in our stadium that weren't blocked by 50 foot cement pillars Yeah, hypothetically Not played on a sandpit. Yeah, maybe I should have invited tom cruise to every game Just because he's the only guy that makes me look tall when I stand next to him. You guys can keep going

Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm not gonna stop you guys So that's an interesting point because I think a lot of teams What they do is they draft a guy and they just try to like fit him to whatever the coach's system is So you you obviously are saying with rg3 you changed your entire philosophy for him What have you done for jimmy? Like what is jimmy's strengths that you're trying to bring out? Coming forward to this next season. Well jimmy is I mean, he's an elite thrower And I think everyone can see his arm talent how quickly he can get rid of the ball Even if you don't block very well, he's can speed it up so fast that it's very hard to get to him

Starting point is 00:52:17 So it's about getting guys who can separate consistently versus man Get enough guys out of their zone and trying to teach them where to go with his eyes So he can pick zones apart because he has the ability Um the talent to do anything he wants as far as in that pocket and with his arm Now it's just making him consistent with no hesitation because you know, when you have that arm talent, you're going to let things rip And usually the on bad days guys who are like that are going to have a lot of picks That's stuff. You look at all these good ones. They've had their four interception games They've had things like that and jimmy hasn't played a ton of football and he's won every game he's been in

Starting point is 00:52:50 But he's going to have those days where he's going to be letting it go and he's just not seeing it great And he's going to have a few pick games and it's going to be how does he respond? How does he adjust to the pressure and things like that? How does he respond to adversity that will really allow Make the difference on whether jimmy gets better or worse. Do you ever catch yourself being like damn? He really is that good looking Well, I think I am reminded about it a lot. I'm over the shock value now, you know, I mean He does kind of take your breath away a little bit. I mean, I'm not going to lie. He's a good looking guy Everyone knows that but the shock value is over. We see him every day here. So he's kind of boring us

Starting point is 00:53:24 You know, what's what's something bad about jimmy that I can make fun of Right now he's like the perfect guy. He's never lost a football game starting quarterback And he's incredibly attractive. So I need something that I can latch on to to make myself feel better. Well, I got something I mean, I think everyone has something, you know with you know, his tmz week that is all over and stuff So, you know, and bob made it clear we hit our tmz quota already as the niners So we're trying to stay out of that but jimmy has struggled in that aspect Actually, it's fun to get it out of the way early. Definitely If we're gonna do it do it before the season starts

Starting point is 00:53:58 Does he have like messed up feet or something or is How about the fact that his name is jim he goes by jimmy as a grown man. Yeah, james. Come on. Yeah, come on, man Jim jimmy g though. Yeah Fuck even his even his deficiencies are strengths. Um, are you a genius? No, not at all. Are you a man? A boy genius. No, not at all. Are you worried about people calling you a genius because that's like always I feel like when they call call a guy a genius, then it's it could go south pretty quickly Like yeah, it's usually a setup, you know, people build you up to knock you down So you try to you never try to get into that stuff

Starting point is 00:54:32 I learned that a long time ago that If you if you don't want to react to people hating on you then you can't react to people loving you either Because if it makes you feel that good, it's gonna make you feel that bad too. And that's something I've learned. Yeah, no doubt You should stay away from it. You don't do it for that reason You should do like every now and then just do something really dumb To make people be like, oh, he's not a genius. I mean people just have to listen to me talk I mean if I'm talking about football, I can sound somewhat smart because that's all I work on

Starting point is 00:55:00 Ask me to spell. Um, I'm not a very good reader My wife's an english major and she will tell you that I'm not the smartest person I forget everything except for football plays. So what's that? Who's the last book you read? Oh, it's been a while. Um hatchet the playbook. I loved hatchets. I read that in fifth grade That's like one of the first books. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm trying to get my kids to read and they're just not into it yet I used to think that if I landed the blue dolphins, I read that. That was good. The giver was a good one too Would it be fair to say that you love fullbacks? Oh, yeah, I do love fullbacks. Nice. Yeah, I love what they can do for an offense

Starting point is 00:55:37 Yeah, so like the the tide is kind of starting to swing in the last couple years You see more and more coaches not even have a fullback on the roster. Why do you? Always have a fullback. I just I like to dictate what the offense wants to do And when you when you don't have a fullback in the game The defense can dictate it a lot. I mean, there's only a certain amount of runs you can run They can have a certain blitz and they they can force you to pass Um, I You know, everyone wants to talk about the seattle new england super bowl and why they threw it and then run it

Starting point is 00:56:03 That's because they were in a personnel grouping that they couldn't run it There was going to be unblocked people and people can just say all they want that Yeah, marshan can just run over someone and carry them into the end zone But that's an extremely small percentage very small and when you have a fullback in the game It doesn't matter what the defense does if you want to run it You can and they know that Just like when you have the threat of a quarterback running the zone read if that's always a threat They know that and if you have a threat of certain things they have to be gap sound

Starting point is 00:56:30 They have to limit what they do They can't have their whole playbook because they know oh my gosh They can do this at any time And if we run these crazy third down blitzes and they have a fullback in the game They're going to gash us for a run that could go 60 like that So it simplifies the whole game. The problem is when you have a fullback in the game all the time There's only two guys who can get out on routes fast sometimes three with the tight end What helps us is we have an athletic fullback

Starting point is 00:56:54 So even though we have a fullback in the game, you don't know whether we're going to be in two back or one back You don't know whether we're in a running offense or a passing offense and that gives us an advantage Speaking of that Seattle Super Bowl How pissed off were you that the Patriots waited to bench Malcolm Butler For the Super Bowl after you coordinated extremely pissed. Yeah, how nice would that have been? It would have been very nice. It's been very nice. It would have helped. Have you rewatched the tape of the Falcons Patriots Super Bowl? Yeah, definitely. Have you like I mean, obviously I think there was a quote Matt Ryan rewatched it after and said that he wishes

Starting point is 00:57:27 For my perspective, it was a damned if you do damned if you don't yeah Because it's kind of uh, if you run the ball then you're playing not to lose and if you pass the ball Why aren't you running the ball? Do you have regrets from that or yeah, it's anytime you lose a game I mean you regret everything you go through it back and forth But you always think of what you were thinking at the time And I know all what happened in the Super Bowl and I get it's very easy when you have a 28 to 3 Lead and people at the end of the game are going to look at your run pass ratio I know what will be said every single time when you blow a lead in your run pass run pass ratio is not right

Starting point is 00:57:59 But I also go through every situation as a play caller I go through how many 3 and outs we had I go through the Coverages they were playing to stop the run and how much they were committing to blitz and everything to get themselves back in the game I look at that 40 plays compared to 90 plays It's tough to have a run pass ratio when you have 40 plays compared to 90 When you're oh and or 1 on 11 on third down I'm not a guy who just goes run run pass and I never will be if we're gonna if we're gonna have a good run ratio

Starting point is 00:58:30 We have to stay on the field and I'll set things up and we'll eventually get runs going But if you can't get a first down You're and we're gonna throw in third down most likely So what was now what I will say with the one regret I had is after we got down there was throwing it on second and 10 I wish I just ran it But I also didn't plan on us getting a sack We got four guys out I thought we could end it right there and I thought if it wasn't we throw it away and we didn't which just happens

Starting point is 00:58:54 We took a sack and so we had to throw the next play to get back in the game And so we did and we did we converted it Um, Muhammad sinew got us right back into field goal range, but our left tackle had a holding kill Which put us in a third and 30 Now we have to throw again And we just we threw it away and had a punt you should have just you shouldn't just it goes back to it on third and 30 Really? No, totally and then I would have won less pass which would help perception happen in the game

Starting point is 00:59:21 Did you ever it was there a moment when julio jones makes that catch where you're like we're about to win the super bowl? Definitely. Yeah, I felt that way the whole game And it was I've never sat in a box so long and watched the other team because tom was unbelievable I mean he was automatic on third down He I thought guys recovered pretty well and he was just putting it on him and that starts to affect us too You sit there and you don't do anything and it felt like it was going about 45 minutes at a time without us touching the ball And eventually they come back and it's like hey screw this We're not going to hope that this doesn't happen

Starting point is 00:59:54 We got to take this into our own hands and you start to get aggressive with that because I don't want to give it back to tom Because tom's a man and he's going to show what he's going to do with it So screw that let's do it on our own And I think that made me make one bad decision which was a pass on second and 10 But once you do that you don't hesitate and go shit. I got to run it now And no you hey we got a man up and overcome that and thought we did this anew but we had a holding call We tackled Long on the edge. I blame chris long for that. He waited all season to play good games

Starting point is 01:00:24 There's no doubt and it frustrated the heck out of me because we got Rid of that ball as quick as we could snoopy man-to-man coverage and it was over like that But then there was a flag there, which it still is a Suspect flag, but it is what it is and you got to deal with this. Can you still get fine for talking about the super bowl right now? I hope not and I think nfl is so scared of bar stool that Hopefully they won't watch this. I mean you guys aren't allowed anywhere, right? We said it was a suspect flag Appreciate it. Thank you. That ref had no balls We got you. We got you. Don't worry. We'll be the fall guy here. Um, last time I said that exact words that you did

Starting point is 01:00:58 I got fine 25,000. Oh, yeah, that's right. No balls. You're fucking pussy. I said it. Yeah, we said we said it Um, all right the sea key question. We're gonna wrap up here because I know you got practice in a minute Uh put in promo code take you get $10 off your sea key purchase go to a 49ers game Go to a 49ers preseason game promo code take The browns real quick. So you went to you were obviously at the browns you left Um, you guys drafted johnny manzell. What would happen with that situation where everything just kind of went As poorly as possible for johnny and in that quarterback room and how it all kind of you know played out Um, I mean, I liked I really liked johnny as a person. I thought johnny

Starting point is 01:01:38 You know, he was put in an unfair situation where I thought he was taken higher than What he could produce And that's a lot of pressure on a guy, you know, johnny can make plays he's quick and things like that But you know that everyone there wanted me to do the run the same stuff with him as we did with rg3 Well rg3 runs a 4 3 johnny runs a 4 6 8. That's a different type of running style johnny isn't can outrun people to the edge on his own read johnny needs to go downhill and make you miss Which is quarterback draw quarterback power things like that the problem with that stuff is that's where you get hit You don't get hit going to the sideline you get hit going downhill and johnny has the quickness to make people miss

Starting point is 01:02:16 But the next guy's going to kill him. So you can't do that all game in the NFL So that was my worry for johnny that you couldn't develop a running game to protect him without him getting hurt So he was going to have a lot of pressure on him on how to learn to play in the pocket and more than other guys who you see is running quarterbacks and When him he comes in as a first round pick the hype of having to play him Like he was not ready for that and then the pressure goes along with it and obviously johnny I think coped with it ways that a lot of people maybe would but um, he was good to me He worked hard. Um, I wish him the best, but it was I think he was

Starting point is 01:02:52 Set up to fail from the beginning Um, we had chris sims on the show about what six eight months ago or something like that. It's a huge nerd. Do you regret? Yeah, big nerd Do you regret uh, not getting a better quarterbacks initials tattooed on your leg a little bit? Honestly, he is we see it. Let's see. Let's see the chris sims tattoo And it's not the chris sims That's the chris sims. It's going to be known as a chris sims. No, I know and that's the most embarrassing thing about it Like we had five of us in college. We were a group that we were a tight group

Starting point is 01:03:21 It was me sims monterell flowers bowscape and rod babers and no one talks to babers anymore Yeah, I actually saw him. Yeah, well, he doesn't do phones But I actually went to texas a few months ago Mack brown and was in the college football hall of fame So I got to see him and it was just like 20 years ago But the the issue is though they all wanted tattoos. First of all, all the guys were all tatted up anyways except for chris and I And they were just wanting excuses to get another tattoo and I didn't think chris. I mean, he's the most white guy in the world Yeah, he's albino. He's albino. Yes, and who he should not have tattoos to me

Starting point is 01:03:56 And they show up too much. So I'm like, all right, if chris gets a tattoo, I'll get it I'm thinking he never would the next day he came in we're all playing halo He comes in puts his ankle up on the on the desk and has the w magazine tattoo up his whole calf the next day the Rod goes out and bow goes out and gets the wu tang w on his calf Rod goes and gets a huge west side w on his calf monterell gets a whole w on his arm And I'm the one who doesn't want a tattoo, but I'm a man of my word and I said if he did I'll do it So I get this little weak one just to say that I did it and now for 10 years or 20 years

Starting point is 01:04:32 I got to hear that chris sims and I have our initials Yes And so it's bothering me because it was I actually was loyals can be I thought it was cool I actually was the hard one because I got a tattoo and didn't want one all those guys just want excuses But so actually your ankle tattoo is the most manly thing you've ever done. Yeah No, I've done a lot of cool things So, okay, we're going to downgrade you from football genius to mad scientist. Yes, I'll take that All right, last two real quick real quick questions

Starting point is 01:04:59 The first one. Do you have a tanning salon in your house like your father? It is so funny because I've been asked that my whole life and we crushed my dad for it. He is Sean mcvay will take a tan before my dad. Well, okay, there we go. You can tell My dad is so funny because he is I used to say I used to say he looked like the mascot for the redskins. Yes He is burnt red and the and the Broncos tell him to take off his shirt one day He's got the widest chest in the world and he's never so he just puts his head in the tanning. He must It's like the top off

Starting point is 01:05:29 It's unbelievable and then when he gets mad he gets twice as red. Yeah, it's it's not a good deal He's got going but I can promise he has never gotten a tanning salon. That's such a yeah You're honest He had a tanning bed. Yeah, Tony is so full of it I have no talking about the same time. I've gotten a one before. Yeah, I promise you he has it now That's back in college when I was trying to get tattoos of christen. Yeah, I'm wearing tight shirts trying to impress people So those days have changed last last question. This one's been killing me forever The worst play call of all time 2015

Starting point is 01:06:03 Falcons here against the 49ers Fourth and two under three minutes down for dan Quinn case of field goal. What the fuck? I thought you were talking about a play call. You mean the worst decision of all yeah decision play call Did you were you were you at all at any point like hey coach? This is crazy. What are we doing? No, because you don't want to you don't want to mess with the coach I mean going for it's a gut feeling and but it was you guys wanted to go for it I got to call the play and I wish we execute you knew that and made it made a made it look like it would have been a great call if the play worked

Starting point is 01:06:35 I've been making fun of dan Quinn ever since and I like it's slowly the circle of people to get the joke when I Whenever dan Quinn like gets close. I'm like hey, he probably wants to kick it here It's getting smaller and smaller. So there's like three people left. I just I love the big dan is very aggressive I haven't lost money on the game. So I'm very upset about it. But yeah, no, I mean we led the league I think and going for it and so I got very used to fourth and two always being and as a coordinator When you don't have to think about anything else it's awesome as a coordinator because you don't ever want to punt So I'm always like ready for my fourth down call and dan gave it to us a lot which was risky But I think it paid off good more than I love that you waited the entire interview for that to be like the grand finale question

Starting point is 01:07:14 I know it does. He talks about it all the time. I asked coach Quinn at the combine. He was like, yeah, that was a mistake Yeah, we learned from my first game as a head coach. I think I went for it four times I was very Excited and 33 more plays. Yeah, two more shovel passes on side kicks. It looks like my wife She always tells me to start out the game with a Hail Mary. Yeah. Yeah, why not one on a shovel pass Do you see what josh Allen did on his first play? No through the ball 65 yards. We're not a balance, but He can throw a bar. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Kyle. I got one last question Is do you have a mantra this year? I feel like you have to have a mantra as a coach

Starting point is 01:07:48 No, I don't have a mantra How about more shovel passes more shovel passes more trick plays. I want to entertain you guys. Yes. That's my goal All right. Yeah, I want to entertain you guys. Yes. I like that done. The mad scientist. All right. Thanks coach. All right. Thanks guys That interview with Kyle Shanahan was brought to you by Felix gray Felix gray computer glasses are the stylish way to protect your eyes From blue light and screen glare whether you're at work or at play No digitalized strain with Felix gray glasses. They filter the blue light. They eliminate the glare They protect your eyes It means that you can do more of what you love a lot of us spend hours in front of the computer at work

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