Pardon My Take - 49ers Joe Staley + Mike McGlinchey And Football Guy Of The Week Returns

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

The Bears are back. We break down the Khalil Mack trade and what John Gruden was thinking (2:27 - 12:02). College Football Week 1, is Harbaugh on the hot seat, should the Turnover chain be permanently... retired, is Texas back, and shout out to all the LSU haters (12:02 - 23:19). Football guy of the week makes its return with nominees including Tom Herman and the LSU FB (23:19 - 29:12). Whos back of the week (29:12 - 35:22) . 49ers O-Lineman Joe Staley and Mike McGlinchey join the show to talk about all the 49ers head coaches in the past decade, what it was like for Mike to get drafted in the top 10 overall, Jimmy G, and the 49ers upcoming season (35:22 - 75:02). Segments include Respect the Biz for Nick Saban going crazy in his postgame interview, As a white guy what should we do with our Nike shoes, and Monday Readings, Did the Buffalo Bills make Timothy McVeigh a domestic terrorist? You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have the big boys, the big uglies from the 49ers, Joe Staley, veteran of the game, and first round pick, Mike McGlinchey, join us for an awesome interview to very fun guys. It's actually a crime by us to not have had Joe Staley on until today, because he is a great guest, he is a great recurring guest now.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We also have the return of football guy of the week, and because it is Monday slash Tuesday, we promised we'd do it, and we're actually going to do it, we're going to do Monday readings, credit to us for actually sticking to something. Manday readings. Manday readings. Wait, is it Manday? Manday. Or Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's Tuesday. This week we're going to kick it off with dudes' day readings, and then next week it'll be Manday readings. All right, before we get to all of that, you know football is back, well guess what? You can watch it all on NFLSundayTicket.tv. For over 20 years, DirectTV has been the exclusive home to NFL Sunday Ticket, the only way to get every live game every Sunday. Good news, NFL fans, DirectTV has expanded the service.
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Starting point is 00:03:06 Super Bowl, Super Bears baby, Khalil Mack, we're all in, yes, well all in the best trade that's ever been traded. I'm thinking like maybe even when the Cowboys did that trade with the Vikings, this is going to be the start of a dynasty. What about the Louisiana Purchase? That's boom. That was a pretty good trade agreement too. Ryan Pace put his nuts on the table and said we're doing it boys and now we are doing
Starting point is 00:03:29 it. Here's the thing, you guys are going all in on the Mitchell-Trabisky window right now. Oh yeah. This is going to end up putting a lot more pressure on Mitchell in your 20s than he was ready for. Guess what, he has receivers this year, not guys just off the street. AR-15. Kevin White didn't have to give him up in the trade.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Boom. So you kept your extra first round pick. That's a luxury of having a wide receiver that's been injured for three years as you have an extra first round pick giveaway. So let's talk about this trade for real. So it was two first rounders and the Raiders gave back, it was two first rounders and a third rounder and a sixth rounder the Bears gave up and the Raiders somehow gave it back a second rounder that John Gruden did not know of.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Well yeah, I mean those kind of details slip into these trades at the last minute all the time. And Khalil Mack who is a top three defensive player and you know a game changer on the defensive side of the ball who then got paid the most money for any defender, sorry Aaron Donald. Yeah, he had that crown for one day I think. Yes. Do you think Aaron Donald's pissed off?
Starting point is 00:04:28 I would be furious about him. No. No, people are saying that. Why? I would be a little bit mad. No. I would ask to just get one dollar more than Khalil Mack. It's crazy because this is how the world works that guess what guys next year someone
Starting point is 00:04:40 will be the highest paid player. Yeah, but I didn't expect it to happen like a day later. I love those shifter tweets where he's like whoa guys just in the last week Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack. This is insane. It's almost like every year the cap goes up and we keep paying guys a shitload of money. And inflation. Welcome to the new NFL.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So the best part was the well the best part is the Bears are back but the second best part was the Raiders refusing to mention Khalil's Mack in the official tweet they sent out. I think there's something screwed up about John Gruden's draft value chart. For him like I don't think he likes draft picks. He certainly doesn't like first rounders. Like he's not a guy that wants to get a quarterback in the first round doesn't like to pay people money.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You remember what he did in Tampa Bay? He just like collected guys that were like handball players and six round picks. If it were up to John Gruden he would still have Jeff Garcia as his quarterback right now. So he sees the first rounder and he's like you know what I just I'd rather not go through the hassle of having to deal with good players. Well and he also the word on the street is Mark Davis couldn't actually pay Khalil Mack. He does not have the money.
Starting point is 00:05:49 There's a cash flow issue there. The P.F. Chang's bills have gotten a little out of control. Should we have a GoFundMe for Mark Davis? I mean it's sad. We could do what we'll do. We'll do like a haircutting marathon at sport clips where all the money goes to Mark Davis so he can afford to pay the note on his conversion van and he can afford to pay good players. I like it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I actually think that John Gruden I think there's something wrong with his brain. I mean yeah there's a lot of stuff wrong with it. I think he's got advanced stage syphilis. I'm just going to put that take out. This has been a very tough start for him. I like that he said that he called Khalil Mack which is the second time he called him since he's been named Raiders Coach the first time being the day he got named Raiders Coach and said thank you for being a Raider Khalil Mack.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I probably should have probably should have worked this out but from the Bears perspective to get serious for a minute it actually is like in a super exciting trade because the defense is now I would say top five defense if everyone stays healthy they have two studs. They have a guy who can actually get to the pastor which has not happened in a very long time like actually watching the Bears maybe put some pressure on Aaron Rodgers is going to be very exciting and you're right it is all on Mitch Trebisti now. No excuse but do you not agree that this is like the way to do it because you have a quarter back on a rookie contract it's like the Russell Wilson Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:07:07 No you're right you go for it now I agree with your defense now let your when your quarter back gets has to get paid that's when you have problems. I agree with what you're saying in theory but I think you would want to see like a little bit more from your quarter back before you say okay this is the guy that we're going to go for the window on. See I now I'll say this though two first round picks for Khalil Mack yeah who gives a shit he's one of the best defenders in the NFL right you'd be lucky to get two guys that were half as good as Khalil Mack.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So it's a good I agree it's a good trade I there's gotta be collusion or something weird going on because what the fuck are the Raiders doing if you what the fuck is I know it's great the entire like they're being smart by giving us like a prime defensive unbelievable defensive player in his prime the the draft thing people will say oh it's too much if you look back at the Bears Bears aren't great drafters okay so if you look back before the you know Erlacher and all those guys get drafted or sorry after they got drafted the last fifteen years sixteen seventeen years the only two guys that you could come up with that you might want to trade for a guy like Khalil Mack is like Kyle Long and Tommy Harris and maybe
Starting point is 00:08:11 Greg Olson but you've traded him anyway but that the point is the future value of these two like people seem to overvalue draft picks now yes because everyone's like we just need draft picks we need draft picks when you can get a guy like Khalil Mack the draft picks don't fuck who cares it's just a number right it's a it's not good Mac is thirty three John Gruden's draft value chart is just like the the value menu at Hooters yes he's like oh man I could get sixteen wings for this guy you kidding me and wings and guess what the I know that like you pay Khalil Mack a shitload of money but guess what you don't have to pay two first round draft picks the next two years that's very true yeah so I did you read
Starting point is 00:08:46 the article about John Gruden that came out today they did like an oral history of what makes the guy tick you want to guess wings yeah football well it's football he said that Jay visors they asked Jay like what winning teams with Tony John G's players yes what's it like hanging out with John it's like man we usually just go to Hooters and we drop plays on napkins for hours and don't say anything else dude if you're but there was one part about it that actually made me think of this whole trade that's going on and I think it's Mike Holmgren that was saying John has unlimited energy it doesn't matter if he's coming into the office on one hour sleep or five hours of sleep which tells me that the most that
Starting point is 00:09:23 John Gruden ever sleeps on like luxurious days five hours that might be an issue if you're a raider like how do you even play this year you're basically they basically said that if you do everything right and you're unbelievable we will maybe let you figure out a way to get traded well that's why you're not a football guy because there are three simple words that answer that question next man up yeah it's next man up league so that's they have to go next man up and get another Pro Bowl all pro all pro pass how many honestly give me because I'm I'm drinking the Kool-Aid I'm obviously living this high it was like the greatest Saturday morning to wake up to that and how many wins do you think the Bears actually
Starting point is 00:09:59 have in them this year seven okay I would say I'd say they went from it you know on Friday to seven yeah I went Friday night they went from six I'm gonna say they're they're they're now in like the eight nine category they're gonna get eleven there you go okay I think underestimating Mitch I think you're still gonna have some bumps with Mitch but I do I do I can't stress enough how detrimental John Fox and no wide receivers are to a rookie's development as a quarterback yes so I don't really think you can judge what Mr. Biscay was last year as anything real because it was basically like he wasn't playing football I there is one part about the offense that is concerning and it's it's Nagy brought in Helfrich as his offensive
Starting point is 00:10:40 coordinator and they but they didn't know each other yeah that tells me that he's just is Nagy a loser no it's they might be a good football coach but language of football he might just be a loser he doesn't have any friends international language of love yeah so I mean maybe that works out maybe doesn't you know he's got to be really pissed off well besides Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers collarbone yeah Aaron Rodgers collarbone Kurt Cousins soul is pissed off yes like he went to that division being like okay well at least there's nobody that I can hear some lions yeah that's gonna like kill me every play yes guess what I you know what I think I think Zimmer's gonna put some like shitty protection out there for cousins just to
Starting point is 00:11:14 let him get hit a little bit teach him a lesson because Zimmer hates quarterbacks yes so Zimmer's actually probably secretly excited to have like a good defensive player like that in the division yeah iron sharpens iron by the way I have a shirt coming out you guys ready for it when we tell you it return of the mac no mac and cheese bruise brothers set of blues brothers okay Roku on Smith and Cleo Mack okay it's gonna be tough if someone gets injured yeah hey why would you do that I'm fucking happy for first time in like forever why would you do that I'm just trying to help you in your creative process how about you just do something with the fine with the 85 bears revisit just be like the spirit of 85 is back it's actually no Cleo
Starting point is 00:11:50 Mack just isn't even on it yeah it's just it's just a fridge parry shirt yeah it's just Mike Singletary and and fridge parry the bruise brothers um all right okay let's talk about some college football because we also have college football back it was great a full Saturday of football where do you want to start I have a few notes that I want to get to where do you want to start okay we can start with how about the uh the Michigan Notre Dame game yes you want to go there yeah so there's I'm worried okay I'm worried about what's going on up in Michigan right now oh I thought you're going to say you're worried because NBC keeps fucking with our stupid brands with this score bug yeah the score bugs that that sucked I didn't like Brian Kelly's swaggy neon green shirt either
Starting point is 00:12:27 was weird Brian Kelly's a guy that like when you see him on tv he better be wearing a neutral color he better be like a dark earth tone if it's bright it's like okay what am I going insane yeah he also looked a little too informal he just looked like he he didn't give a fuck which I guess when you win the game it doesn't matter but the just a little notice to anyone out there who's listening who maybe works at NBC ESPN Fox wherever don't fuck with the score bug our brains can't hold that much information in so when you do these things it like it basically ruined my Saturday night I thought every single play was a flag you know you were to do that thing where like Michigan would have a big play yeah I'm like oh no that's coming back there's a flag like clearly it says
Starting point is 00:13:09 yellow right there so it's coming back I I had the same thing I was watching I think I was watching Texas Maryland earlier in the game and Edward James was one of the sponsors and so after every other play they would show like a little Edward James yellow logo and I was just flipping the fuck out I was like what's going on yeah so just keep it should just be against the law to have the color yellow on my television or you need to do a press conference you need to do like a state of the union you know what our president needs to tell us all the scoreboard changes like before they happen yeah because don't don't just bring it on us I don't like surprises but you're what your initial thought was about this game Jim Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh man he's uh I think he gets
Starting point is 00:13:49 a little bit unfair of a deal because he's lost to some really good teams okay so he has not like 500 in his last what eight or nine games eight and last 16 okay so here's here's the problem they're I I think it's over like people pick on Jim Harbaugh because he's an easy target he's you know eccentric he obviously has had a ton of success and everyone's like oh he's at Michigan he's gonna win it all right it hasn't it hasn't happened right away there's two things one is I think that it's unfair how much people go at him because they don't realize how bad Michigan was under Rich Rod and Brady Hoke like remember that Michigan fans remember that Jim Harbaugh won 10 games his first two years with that said you have to beat your rivals if he can't beat any of
Starting point is 00:14:35 his rivals this year that is going to be a problem because as stupid as it sounds like that's what college football is about you have to if you lose to Notre Dame Michigan State and Ohio State you you you are obviously on the hot seat whether it's fair or not I did love his uh they did like an interview sit down with I think it was Marty Smith before the game um on on uh College Game Day and they asked him okay what are your goals for the for the season he goes our goals to win the national championship that's our goal uh foreign and domestic is to win the national championship he was quoting the constitution he was changing the priorities of the United States Constitution to make it about Michigan winning the national championship and that's pure hardball and so
Starting point is 00:15:12 like some people are gonna like bristle at that or whatever but um but he wants to win yes we know that can I can I throw something out there maybe he changes the khakis jinkos maybe he just does something a little different to get people off of the big blue big blue literally means what if he just came out in jeans maybe don't even go jinkos maybe say jinkos you're gonna want to go jinkos maybe he goes like he just does a little bit at a time until he gets to jinkos yeah just so you got skinny jeans like bootcut bell bottoms jinkos yeah I mean I wouldn't hate it he does need to switch something up uh the glasses I think the glasses they can be they're not old school enough for jim yeah I'd like to see jim hardball wearing glasses that have been taped together yes or go the
Starting point is 00:15:55 other way like like when a horse gets lasik and you bet on that horse maybe jim hardball that's lasik is that what you do oh yeah absolutely you always take a horse after lasik when when jim if jim hardball gets lasik and it's like boom he's seeing everything now I think it's actually shocking that hardball a guy that wears cleats to games a guy that brings a glove to baseball games doesn't wear rex specs yeah as a coach it's true he should be wearing rex specs it's true you never know they might need you out there jim uh what other oh we should talk about uh texas being very not back yeah texas is well they're back to where they were last year at the exact same time so that one stung for texas fans uh maryland now is I think I saw a stat where maryland was like
Starting point is 00:16:36 two and 22 out of conference against power fives and the only two wins for texas in the last two years they just it's a bad match up whoever scheduled that like seven years ago you fucked up dude yeah like you really fucked up scheduling maryland because that's a very bad start for a texas team that like the back meter everyone was saying that this was going to be the year that they were listening when you talk about texas you always have to include in the conversation that they're the best program it's the best job in the country that's a fact yes and herman is not looking he's you know what he's done the texas media is real quick to turn on a coach if you're mean to the media like they take them they think that to the new york media yep and so he like
Starting point is 00:17:16 talks some shit to the media last year and so after one game all the texas writers are like fuck you tom herman we told you you were gonna suck and he went to that strip club and he went to the strip club with urban mire's assistant yeah i need a comprehensive report on uh which college football coaches have gone to strip clubs in the last 20 years oh wait spoiler it's literally all except dabbo yeah well i'm sure he's been to a church that's a strip club yes uh we should talk about all the people all the haters and losers of which there are many who said lsu was going to have a down year yeah ha ha ha ha ha i'm laughing face that was a absolute beat down to miami to the point i wanted to throw this out there i felt bad for miami yeah pittsburgh they lost to
Starting point is 00:18:00 pittsburgh they lost to clumson they got uh they lost to wisconsin the bowl game then they start the season lsu you can't if you were miami if you're mark rick if you were miami fan you can't in good conscience keep the turnover chain alive it's dead at some point you just have to have it be dead because it it's hollow it doesn't mean any yet and it got copied by so many other places so it's not even that cool anymore the turnover sweat towel was awesome the tour tour boysy state has a turnover thrown yeah that's pretty that's pretty sweet it's a huge chair is it just a toilet no it's it's an actual like big white chair that they sit in i kind of like that yeah it is kind of like that but i i also like was the kinesaw state uh turnover plank yes is the two by four that you just get to
Starting point is 00:18:43 care yeah yeah that one was great georgia has the spikes the the linebacker uh uh pads it's just time to ask the question has mark rick lost control of the program this is mark rick this is what you got loses control of it yes that's what he so but so they're frauds and yeah you use the f word earlier when talking about miami yes a town synonymous with frauds they are frauds okay you can't lose you can't lose like there's a difference between losing and like okay for instance washington lost the auburn yeah but that was a very physical game it was watching looked like they were going to be out of control at the beginning of the game they thought they were going to lose it they came back they played tough like they lost that game but that was a good game and washington still
Starting point is 00:19:22 walks away with their dignity miami you got bullied you had a couple late passes like deep passes but you know the lsu had kind of brought the package down and like we're just going to run out the clock you got manhandled it was one of those games where every time miami had a chunk play and they didn't have many because malik sucks yes leak is still he they just assumed that he was going to get no at throwing footballs in the offseason and he didn't surprisingly uh but even like the big chunk plays that they had it was just like a matter of inches or centimeters that the lsu's that their defensive backs just like miss batting the passes right it was like every time they had a good play it felt lucky yes because lsu just was stomping a mud hole in their ass
Starting point is 00:20:01 and joe burrow lsu has a quarterback which is insane because if you know lsu i mean when you even think about it it's kind of funny to laugh about but like lsu in 2013 had odell beckham and jarvis landry and they lost three games like that was a joke fact check big cat since 2000 there's been no college that has had more quarterback drafted in the overall in like the seventh round yeah it's all like seventh rounders but they have a quarterback i was skeptical at first joe burrow had that look i always i never can trust a quarterback who coming in the first week of the season doesn't have a tan because you're like come on man like you don't you don't have any like you should be at a boat house at least a few times or just practicing yeah right
Starting point is 00:20:44 you should be you should be looking like like a sexy god out there like and joe burrow had that nerd white pale face but he can play he can really play and so i'm a i'm a believer i think it's too going back to the fraud conversation i don't i don't think it's fair for us to put miami on the fraud list just yet after one week okay let's put them on a watch list okay we'll put them under sec investigation for fraud yes because they got their ass kicked by southeast conference so we on the fraud list right now questionable miami i would say texas is also questionably frauds okay that's fair that's fair uh other games i mean alabama did their thing we all knew that was going to happen uh who knows who the quarterbacks going to be they're both really really good
Starting point is 00:21:25 just one scored all the touchdowns and the other didn't kyler murray is incredible he's electric like he was just running around for oklahoma i cannot believe that guy's going to play baseball like what the fuck are you doing um i can't wait to watch him hit like 280 i might have i might have my bad situation okay we might need to apologize uh to her medwards yeah because because your tsa i don't know let's give it a couple weeks well okay maybe i won't apologize to her medwards yet but they have an awesome wide receiver they have one really good player so they're going to be fun to watch no matter what like who knows what the fuck her medwards is going to do at any given time he's probably going to realize oh we have one really good player uh well we're about team yes
Starting point is 00:22:04 so he's probably just going to like take him out of the game playing all together yes uh will greer electric yeah dana holgerson best coach at nc double a yes this is west virginia was so much also just one one one to put a little circle on a little tickler file kevin sumlin is he ruining clealtate that's going to be a fun storyline to watch okay yeah because he wants to make him a passer no and if he was like one of the most fun college football players to watch last year and then arizona lost b y that's my favorite offseason storylines when they take an electric usually a quarterback with like a huge arm or a very fast scrambler and be like we're going to install west coast offense for this guy right but this time it's going to work
Starting point is 00:22:41 it's going to be exotic west coast will play to the strengths and it's like no it never works dude it's college football let him run yeah the quarterback is faster than everyone else on the field that's why college football is insane uh all right let's do speaking of college football we have the return of football guy of the week if you are a new listener every single week we have nominees for nominees for football guy of the week we put it up uh on pardon my take we have a poll when we after the vote the winner we sometimes usually hopefully with the help of awls we can get the winner to give an announcement take uh accepting their football guy the week last year we had the boise state dog we had actually gave it an acceptance speech we had
Starting point is 00:23:24 the northwestern strength coach we had uh all gas no brakes yep the per due quarterback i was state kid that played both sides yes i always say kids so jake olson the uh blind launch snapper so we're hoping that we can continue the trend with your help if you know anyone who wins football guy of the week and you can get them to just give a simple acceptance speech we would love it so without without further ado football guy of the week nominees are first up uh torrey carter lsu fullback who if you saw he looks like pft pft was a little more jack no a little bit no fence yeah well no offense he has full eye black and the story that they told uh how would you describe the full eye black uh it's like the guy from the program yes on steroids well not real
Starting point is 00:24:09 steroids but yes uh more intense version of that guy so and he looked like a raccoon actually yes a little bit he looked like a raccoon at a metallica concert well funny you say that because the story is for when he showed up the first day at lsu he drove through the night from his home in georgia to baton rouge and they asked him how he made it through the night he said red bull in metallica i love it yes and this is like old school metallica i'm sure he we're not talking about the black out we're talking about ride the lightning yes oh yeah the pure shit the uncut stuff yeah so he's uh are we sure this guy's not dan cambell's son i don't know i love him i fucking love him so he's football guy of the week nominee number one number two is lane kiffin who got the shit kicked
Starting point is 00:24:53 out of him uh in in norman oklahoma and then the next day someone on twitter tried to chirp him and asked him how church was and put a scoreboard like a screenshot of the of the score and he said church was great way more important sir drop sir have a great day hopefully you will figure it out which uh i'm praying for you yes which is a fantastic bless your heart yeah if you know a football guy uh the only thing that they they care about more than football is god but but not really but when it's convenient yes well i'm doing the math maybe that's why lane kiffin kept getting fired in the nfl yeah because he didn't like playing on sundays yeah that's the lord's day but rather play on saturday this is a sneaky like perfect football guy answer because the god football
Starting point is 00:25:35 priority interchangeability is such a great thing for a football guy to have because when the football is going bad you can just be like well guess what guys god is number one and when the football is going good football over everything yeah well football is god yes that's that's what it is in their minds yeah but you're right it's like a built-in excuse right you just constantly can switch it back to see the big jimbo that that happened at f a u no so they sent out a text to all their alumni or their their donors or whatever right after the game saying f a u just went into norman and defeated number seven oklahoma like here's where you can donate more money to the football program accidentally sent that way that actually could probably have gotten a few donations
Starting point is 00:26:14 it probably fooled a few people yeah why not yeah uh okay next up we have tom herman coach at texas pft you have the quote right yeah so he um he addressed the media after the game and actually everybody that watched that saw the exact same result as last year against marion they were wrong because it was a much better result even though they lost again he said this year's team the reason we didn't play well early in the game is because we wanted it so badly so his mistake was he coached his guys up to go out there too hard oh and so they kind of let they got they played with too much emotion yeah and too much passion it meant too much it meant too much whereas mariland was not i guess they weren't playing with emotion or passion right after everything that they've
Starting point is 00:26:52 been dealing with there either so uh yeah that's that was not tom herman's fault he said the results in the two games may appear similar to the general public or fan yes they're both losses but they felt much different than that to me so uh yeah this is a win texas is back uh i i was telling hank about this earlier but tom herman's haircut it is man it is something to see when it gets wet when he gets sweaty so he's in the stage where he's going bald but he's not quite willing to accept it yet yeah and so what he's done is he grows his front row of hairs out like just the very first hairs on his head he grows them out to about like three inches long so it's it's bangs that start at the center of his head yes and when they get wet man it is it is a wispy site the first the first month
Starting point is 00:27:35 of the season is tough for football guys because if you if you haven't been keeping those pecs tight in your hair nice you're gonna get exposed yeah quick yes yeah uh all right and last up we had have who is probably gonna be on it every week it is nick saban coach of alabama as you know he had a classic nick saban moment when alabama was up 44 7 they had like the camera on him while the play was going on and his team had a pick six like a 50 yard pick six and he was just disgusted the whole time he was mad that for some reason like i think maybe the safety was out of position even though he picked the ball off huh like he was so mad and just he looked like he wanted to spit on his team for getting another touchdown yeah because you it's a turnover when you get a pick
Starting point is 00:28:22 six you don't get to control the clock at all right you just score points and then you have to kick back off to the other team yeah that's not a winning formula and he also chewed out his uh one of his players for getting an unsportsmanlike conduct when they were up 44 7 like ripped into him so hard oh there was almost an awesome unsportsmanlike penalty in the maryland game the wide receiver caught a deep touchdown pass and as he's running for the last like seven yards in he just turns around and he looks at the defender that's trying to chase him down tackle just looks at him like seeing how close he is runs into the end zone they throw a flag and they took they start to take it back and then they do like a replay review of it and they're like actually yeah
Starting point is 00:28:58 he just looked at the guy you can't look you can't look yeah we're looking uh all right so vote for football guy of the week at part of my take we'll put that poll up with that let's do our who's back of the week hey go my who's back of the week is Brent Musburger being horny shout out for hymns is that a who's back or never left well he's back being horny publicly okay he's always been horny but you know sometimes he like brings it out in the open uh he tweeted because agent mcarran went to the raiders joined the raider family he tweeted welcome agent mcarran to the raider family can't wait for the quote unquote beautiful mrs mcarran to join us and open that is a price that's a perfect uh john groen quarterback to a j mcarran that's like his wet dream yes yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:29:41 brunt he's going to be horny you can't stop it no it's like a force of nature at this point the heart wants with the heart wants yeah and he wants to just you know creepily tweet about kathryn webb yep he made her he made her right he made kathryn webb kathryn webb yeah he she probably owes him some kind of like uh i don't know is she model now i think she is i think she does some model she probably does so she probably owes a fee to Brent musburger for being creepy on air that time yeah well isn't isn't sushi an aphrodisiac oh yeah so aj's what's a sushi place called fuck what is it it's so good roll tide no no no no no that's a great name for oh it's way better though it's should be rolled tide it's a it's something with aj asian asian asian asian yes
Starting point is 00:30:26 yeah i'm pretty sure that's what it is hank it's checking musper is going to get to chop down and all the raw fish asian asian asian aj i an should be called roll time in fucking tusk looks It's a J instead of an S. Oh God, that is the worst sushi place ever. Alright, PFT, what do you got? Alright, who's back in the week? It's DC Sports. DC Sports is back.
Starting point is 00:30:52 The Nats are 69 and 69. We're not going to make a joke about it. But they are, in fact, 69 and 69. And the Mystics are still in the playoffs. Elena Deledon. My former girl. My current girl. Basically, broke her leg in half.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Like two nights ago. She did. When she slipped. Yeah, bad hyper extension of the knee. But she came back. Put the team on her. MVP. Put the team on her goddamn back.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Bro. And beat the team that they were playing against. Listen, I was there the night that she got her MVP award in the WNBA final. Couldn't find anyone to go with me, sat by myself. Oh, that's a shame. So you should have invited Negi. Yeah. You guys don't have any friends.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It was just me and three empty seats. Two Chicago loners. So Stooli literally took a picture from the rafters being like, you're with all your friends? Like, yeah, kind of. Yeah. Edd. That's my girl now.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. All right. My who's back is faith in democracy. Oh, good. So if you saw John McCain's funeral, rest in peace, George Bush slipped Michelle Obama a piece of hard candy and it was everything. It was everything. It was.
Starting point is 00:31:56 It was relationship goals for me. Like, oh my God, can you believe like this country has fallen on hard times, but if George Bush can slip Michelle Obama a piece of hard candy, like maybe we'll be OK. It was just the name of like some Iraqi terrorist that tried to kill George Bush's dad. And he's just like, hey, have Barack. Hey, can you double tap this one real quick? Yeah. You still have access to the drones.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. It was so great though watching Twitter being being like, oh my God, like this gives me faith. Really? You fucking idiots. This gives you faith. It's occasionally nice to see robotic politicians exhibit normal emotions. That shouldn't be the bar. You're right.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That's the best part is they're like, oh my God, this person, this human act like a human. Uh-huh. We can finally feel good about ourselves. I would feel very good about myself if they did like a wife swap. Yeah. If Barack plowed Laura Bush. That would probably be that. Is that technically like, would that get us on a watch list because they're former presidents?
Starting point is 00:32:52 No, that's just consolidating power. That's how they used to do it back in old England. Yeah. You just have like the king of Denmark and the queen of, you know, Spain fuck each other, then you won't have a war. Exactly. So if Obama plows Laura, then Michelle gets custody of Texas is my understanding of how it works.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Perfect. And then George gets Hawaii. Yeah. And Chicago. And he gets the new library in Kenya. All right. Let's get to our interview. We have a really fun interview with Joe Staley and Joe Staley, by the way, he has been through
Starting point is 00:33:25 a list. We went through all his head coaches and it is so funny because he's had some interesting Mike Singletary, Chip Kelly, Jim Tomsula, Jim Harbaugh. So we, we talked to Joe and we also had Mike McGlinchey, who was first round pick out of Notre Dame on the show as well. Before we get to that, the cash app, you know, the cash app, it's the simplest way to instantly send money to friends. It's also the number one app in finance.
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Starting point is 00:36:01 And Mike Muglinchi yet to make a NFL roster. Yes. Is that fair to say? It is fair to say. All right so we got to start with this because I heard a little birdie told me that there's a fine system for the O-line and Mike Muglinchi talks a little too much. So how much does he owe us for coming on this podcast? So that was a one day thing we did on the NFL network that day.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It was the whole entire day we missed it so Mike has a thing where I don't know how did you get in your head that I was the guy to talk to in the room because you openly said to do so. Oh. But whatever. You read that wrong. Yeah you read that wrong. Yeah I definitely did.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You want to welcome me in with open arms kind of thing and then just like shut the door on my face. You wanted to see if you were dumb enough to listen to his advice. Right. And that's like a thing, a veteran thing like hey guys if anyone wants to talk like my door's always open. Yeah. Yeah like brought me into the room and like sat me down next to him in the meeting room
Starting point is 00:36:55 like first day. It's like all welcoming and then like gives me shit like back and forth. No it wasn't so much that. It wasn't so much like it was the press conference that you held for the masses that day or the previous day and was like you know what I just I'm always in Josier he's yet to turn me down. I love asking him. I love asking him all the questions in the world until and until he tells me to shut
Starting point is 00:37:17 the fuck up. I'm going to keep asking those questions so the next morning I was like told me to shut the fuck up. Okay. All right. So how much do you owe us? How much money do you have on you right now? Not a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:28 What was your signing bonus? Say what it was when you. You have to say it. You have to say it. So he also had to sing and tell your signing bonus. What is it? So what was it? What is it?
Starting point is 00:37:36 I think it was 11.4. Exactly. You know exactly what 11.4 and some change. Is that net? No. That's before tax. So how much do they take out in California? Like 10 million?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Almost 60%. I think. Okay. Thoughts and prayers. Are you going to be able to survive on that? I think I'll be all right. I don't listen. I don't want to make this podcast but you Mike because you're a rookie and like I said you
Starting point is 00:37:56 never made it to me. Nor should you. But one other question. Notre Dame. Do you have any girl do you have a girlfriend or did you ever have a girlfriend named Mary Jane? No. I don't have a girlfriend named Mary Jane.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Of course you do. Yeah. How many Catharines have you dated? I haven't done it. No. No. Any Super Pale Catharines in South Bend, Indiana that caught your eye? No.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I can't say I dated a Catharine. No. Who were all the girls that you dated though in high school? Yeah. List them all right now. Absolutely. Shout out. Your number is 69.
Starting point is 00:38:26 So list also how many of them you 69'd? No. Absolutely not. Shout out to Caitlin Coleman. Caitlin. My girlfriend. Yeah. We're not talking about Caitlin right now though.
Starting point is 00:38:35 We're talking about your college. So you're safe. Absolutely not. You wanted to talk? Yeah. No. Absolutely not. You came in here ready to go.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Your name's Mike McGlinchy and you were an offensive guard at Notre Dame. Tackle. Offensive tackle. You're offensive lineman at Notre Dame. Yeah. You got feet like a guard no offense. When you were born was that like a situation where the doctor, you see like babies born in Louisiana that weighs 16 pounds and they give you a scholarship to LSU.
Starting point is 00:39:02 You were born and they were like hey this guy's going to be offensive lineman at Notre Dame. That's a pretty good mix. Shout out to my dad and my grandpa for my last name and the Irish Catholic faith tradition and then just kind of rode the tails to South Bend. Yeah. Yeah. You were born.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. Mike McGlinchy. That is a football guy's name. Thank you. I appreciate that. All right. That's the last of Mike McGlinchy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:27 No more questions. Appreciate you showing up. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Like 45 coaches. How many more years are you going to play first of all? 45 more.
Starting point is 00:39:37 45 more. Yeah. So I don't know. I actually have no idea. Do you feel it? I'm not going to give you a serious answer because I think then they'll probably like hold me to that. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But do you feel it? Do you feel our training? But training camps, you're in that weird spot where you've been in the NFL for long enough. Yeah. That as you get older, training camps get easier because they're like millennials are ruining training camps. I just feel like I'm one of those guys too that kind of like those old guys that get
Starting point is 00:40:02 like real bitter and it's like, you guys have it so easy now. You don't even remember what a real training camp was. Back in my day, we used to go two times a day. Yeah. Full pads. Cracking skulls. Cracking skulls. And now, yeah, it's not like that.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I mean, we have a very cake schedule right now. Yeah. Don't tell Kyle. No, that's okay. Yeah. This is unrecorded. You've also played for like a murderous row of football guys. Football guys.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Football guys. Let's go. Single Terry. Mike Nolan. Mike Nolan. Yeah. The suit. The original suit.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Hardo move. Would you wear a suit? Great guy though. Awesome dude. Would you wear the suit during practice? I think you might have busted out for a walkthrough just to kind of get the sense of it for games too. What did they tell you?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah. It's a walkthrough for him too. Wait, what did the team think about the suit? The problem with the suit is you can't make as many jokes because he did it for his dad and I think his dad passed away. So it's like, come on man, like we want to make fun of this like you take this from us. Yeah. It's kind of selfish of him when you really think about it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah. But he looked good with it. It wasn't like he was like, you know, big 300 pound guy trying to rock a suit. He inject a real. Yeah. I mean, Jack's pretty jacked. Yeah. Jack is pretty jacked.
Starting point is 00:41:07 All right. So Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary. Singletary. Yep. Samurai Mike. He wiped his ass in front of you guys. He did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 He did not. He did something. Yeah. He did a half time speech. I was pretty spirited. Yeah. So he just showed you his poopy ass. He didn't clean it.
Starting point is 00:41:23 No. There was underwear on. Okay. There was underwear on. He didn't get that part out because I don't know if that was a Vernon Davis game. The Vernon Davis game was his first game as official head coach. Interesting. And so he was sitting the tone early.
Starting point is 00:41:35 What is the Vernon Davis game? He sent Vernon. So Vernon got a personal foul in the third quarter, second quarter of the game. And he just barely grazed the guy's face mask, got a personal foul, came over in the sideline and then Singletary just like, go in the locker room. We don't want you. You're not one of us. And then he had the quote after he did a press conference and he's like, I want winners.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah. I can't do it. Can't win with him. Can't play with him. I want people that want to win. Yeah. And then they turned that into one of the greatest tight ends of the 2000s decade. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. You're smart. Oh, what was that look? 2000s. That was like a tour to get through that sentence for you. The odds. The odds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Singletary. He wasn't even for like six years. It was a long time. He sure looks like it. Yeah. Aged well. So Singletary then what is that? Harbaugh next.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah. Harbaugh was next. How was he? Harbaugh was awesome. Harbaugh was a. They didn't let him do two things though, right? No. So the first year we had of Harbaugh was the lockout year.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And so we didn't get to have the whole off season with him. And then we went into training camp, their first training camp with him. But he would, so when he first got there, he figured out exactly what to like the minute of how long we were able to be on the football field. And so he found out for that first practice in the CBA or whatever they drafted was three hours that we were allowed to be on the practice field. So we were exactly on the field for three hours for that first practice. And then the second practice was an unpeded walkthrough practice that you were allowed
Starting point is 00:43:07 for to be on the field for an hour and a half. And we were on the field for exactly an hour and a half and it was not a walkthrough. It was, it was, it was go time. Yeah. It's full pads or full, full, full tempo, no pads. What would he do to like lighten things up in the middle of training camp when everybody's like tired or hot or angry? Like, did he have like a fun team activity that he would do where he would, my, he didn't
Starting point is 00:43:28 have fun. Come on. My thought would be like, he'd take you guys like to play basketball and then just like go full speed against you. You know, I'm trying to remember like, like you said, I've been through the gamut of coaches. Like there's so many different like regimes and what people did. And it's like, I can't remember. It's a little bit of like playing 12 years in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:43:47 It's like my memory kind of slips every once in a while. You'd like to take you guys paintballing and just shoot all of you. That would be his like way. That would be. Yeah. He would set it up. Definitely would set it up in the way that he would win and be the dominant male in the situation.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah. What, was there any truth to Harbaugh kind of like wearing thin on guys towards the end? Some guys, yeah, there was some truth with that. Myself personally, I liked him a lot. Right. He was an interesting guy to get like social with and have a conversation. He was a football coach. I mean, we had a ton of success with him and that's all it's about.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I mean, we love Harbaugh, but I could see how he could probably at some point, like probably get a little tired sometimes, you know, because he is go, go, go all the time. Yeah. He only knows one way to go. And I think it was the same way when he got to Michigan and everything. He's the same kind of mentality. You guys had crazy success. Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Three straight NSU champions. I mean, one of the stories I think about him was like, that always was funny, like him socially was like, we would be around the lunch table and having conversations or whatever. And someone would be telling a story and it's a funny story. And when someone to get to the punchline, the whole table, he rubs and laughter and Harbaugh is just staring you dead in the eye, like not even cracking a smile or anything. Like nothing was funny to him. And then you're just kind of like caught off guard a little bit.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. So you continue another story and then kind of ignore it. And then you're halfway through a story. Nothing's funny about what you've said so far. And all of a sudden Harbaugh would be like, just die laughing. Like it was like, you just didn't have that like, I don't know. It was just a little bit on delay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:14 It was like, he maybe just got the joke or he was anticipating the next joke. Yeah. I saw how they laughed. They learned how to laugh. Yeah. That's great. That's fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I mean, he was a good dude. I have nothing but positive memories of that time. What about the, we were talking before we started the Super Bowl. The, you were telling a story about the last drive. Yeah. So that was a wild Super Bowl. I mean, we had our asses were getting kicked in the first half there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:38 How much did you guys pay Roger Goodell to turn off the lights at halftime? Yeah. It works me because I mean, we had the lights off too. Yeah. But you don't understand Ray Lewis. The lights were off for him. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah. He keeps bringing it up. Yeah. So we, I mean, we came back, we make an epic comeback in the second half. We have all the momentum going. We feel like we're doing what we want on offense and we have that final drive. I probably started the drive with like four minutes left or whatever. We get down there and first and go from the seven yard line, two minute warning.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I'm sitting in the huddle with the, it's like a TV timeout or a two minute warning. I forget what it was. And I'm sitting in the huddle looking around everybody like, dude, we're about to have a fucking parade. They're about to be screaming our fucking names down fucking market street. We're about to win the Super Bowl. Can you believe this? Cause we had like the best offense line in history or not history.
Starting point is 00:46:29 We had the best offense. Yeah. Both, both claim there. Of the 2012 year, we had like our offense line was rolling that year. We were a, you know, we had Mikey potty, Jonathan Goodwin, Alex Boone, Anthony Davis. And we felt like we were just going to call four straight run plays and get in the end zone from the seven yard line. And we went on to run one run play and then through three fade routes to shit.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And the fade. Oh man. I still shudder when I hear that play call Q eight. That's fade. Oh, it's like a roll out. It's like a roll out fade. Yeah. What was it like when, when Kaepernick was like, when, cause I remember it was, uh,
Starting point is 00:47:08 it was actually against the bears on that Monday night football game when Jason Campbell started and they, the bears got the shit kicked out of them. That was like his coming out party. And then the Packers game in, in the playoffs when he went off, was it like fun to block for a guy like that? Or because he runs around and keeps plays alive. Are you like, fuck man, just throw the ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 At that time it was like, we just felt like we were unstoppable because no one had really figured out that offense yet. Cause, um, that whole read zone, the defenses really didn't know how to attack it yet. And we had the perfect quarterback for it and the perfect offensive system. And we were also able to run the ball super well at that time. So, I mean, I didn't care because I felt like everything we were going to do was there going to be something that was just going to be like wide open downfield when we did decide to pass it.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And if we didn't decide to pass it, we're going to run the ball. It was at least 10 yards of a pop there. That Green Bay. We game was like one of the most fun. That was like a video game. It was like everything was going for at least five. Yeah. It was like 180 yards rushing in like 230 passes.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It was insane. That same year we had a game. We were playing the Buccaneers in the regular season. And I remember we had like 311 yards rushing and through for like 340 yards. We set a franchise record in both rushing and total yards. It was like, that's when I first was like, this offense can be pretty special. Yeah. Oh, Mike, just walk back in the room.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Do you guys love when you run the ball? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You get mad though. Like when I always think it's funny because, you know, obviously the way the NFL is gone, it's just pass, pass, pass.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And then you hear like we're friends is kind of long. And he always like, I just want to run the ball. Like I want to just hit someone in the mouth and run the ball. Do you guys get frustrated when you have three, four, five pass plays in a row? I mean, I did a little bit in college. I don't think I have any ground to stand on here at the current moment, but I definitely didn't college. But yeah, when you feel as though that you're confident in what you can do and, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:06 trust the guys around you. And it's sometimes it feels like the coaching staff doesn't trust you if they avert to that. But, you know, it's definitely frustrating when you know that you can just run people over and not get the call in. Hat on hat football. Yeah. It sounds a lot more fun to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 That's what's nice about Kyle's Kyle Shanahan's offense, though, is that he understands like the strain that it puts on offense alignment is to sit back when it's passing situations. And he sets up his offense to kind of take us out of that as much as he can. Yeah. There's situations where you're in third and long and you have to pass it. They know you're going to pass. You have to get back there and pass block, but there's not too many situations. We're going to sit there and, you know, running situation and just sit back there and drop back.
Starting point is 00:49:52 You know, it's going to be some kind of play action if we're passing the ball or it's going to be something that's going to like hold the linebackers or the rush for a second to give us an advantage. Is there a part of you, either one of you guys that's a little bit scared to play against in Dominic and Sue, twice a year? Good question, PFC. No, because he's inside. So I don't want to have to face him too much. He kind of plays three techniques.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I'm just kind of down. Not even on a stunt? You have to ask the guards. Okay. Yeah. Although Mike does have guard feet. Guard feet. We noticed that about you.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I don't know. I don't know what it's like to play against guys being scary. I mean, he has been on TV for a long time. Yeah, that's true. That's true. No, I'm not scared of him. Here you go. You should just say he lost the step.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm really mad. Just poke a bear. Okay. Right. Right. Headline, Mike McLeachy-Rookie says, I'm not scared of in Dominic and Sue. Yeah. That guy doesn't have it anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Good. We're going to set the tempo. Let's go. I noticed you referred to Coach Shanahan as Kyle. Cool friends. Cool friends. Well, I mean, shoot, he's only like, what, three, four years old? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah. That's a little disrespectful. We call him Coach. We're peers. Yeah. Okay. All right. You're peers.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Do you call him Coach? I go back and forth. No, you don't. You better not. Oh, yeah. Rookie, you better call him. I will call him Coach Shanahan for the rest of my time as a coach. Coach, sir.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Coach, sir. Coach Shanahan, sir. Yes, sir. Now, I got two partners coaches and have you telling me stories about them? So after Harbaugh, yeah, wait, do you wait? Yeah. Did Harbaugh? How many snaps did Harbaugh take in practice?
Starting point is 00:51:26 He took a lot. Yeah. And he was always cleated up. And it was kind of a wild look too because he always wore that like that fleece black tuck in shirt with the red pen around his neck. With the red pen around his neck, tight like tight khaki. We know about the khakis. Docker khakis.
Starting point is 00:51:45 With pleats and stuff, I think too. And then straight-up cleats that I think he had from when he played with the Colts In the pictures in Michigan still look like they're like, yeah, they're not they're not Would you guys be like come on, dude? Are you really are you really taking snaps again? No, because I mean he would do it full speed and so we'd get a good look They're trying to embarrass the defense. Yeah There wasn't like he was trying to drop back just kind of like take some reps off the quarterback He was trying to make the team if he threw an interception
Starting point is 00:52:14 Would he like make a few steps in the direction of the defensive back to like try to hit him I'm sure I wasn't there for that because you know, we're off doing our own thing But I'm sure knowing him that he definitely did. I don't even think you take a few steps I think he would sprint by example Wrap up. He strikes me as a guy that had like a coin toss strategy to where he'd get pissed off Like he's like tails never fails at rhymes do that all the time. I would agree. Yes. All right, so Harbaugh to Tom Sula Yeah, what a great
Starting point is 00:52:44 Like you said, we we were walking around We sold the store in the podcast We were walking around the 49ers facility today and there's you know history everywhere and all we did was just ask people if they knew Jim Tumsul Because we love him that much. Yeah, so what was that like? What would talk us through the fart interview the press conference and also the interview Yeah, he farted in the press conference and also the interview where he looked like a wet dog And was just mumbling and everyone's like, who's this guy? Yeah, it's first interview
Starting point is 00:53:17 I don't I don't remember too much about like the fart the details of the fire. I remember seeing it and being like Roller Part of his day. He's got at least 10 farts in Was he a dude? Yeah, go ahead. No, we're gonna say I was gonna say was he a dude that spent a lot of time with the Defensive line during practice like even though he was the head coach. He would still like focus on the guys that he loved Yeah, he definitely had a soft spot for those guys but when he was I mean he was involved with everything and he was a great like He took a very very seriously of being the head coach and and all that and he was an unbelievable
Starting point is 00:54:02 I mean talk about like one of the best defensive line coaches ever been around and the guys that he worked with when he was an Assistant it was just a weird situation that we were going through that year and it's kind of you know I felt bad for him because it was like We had just a whole bunch of stuff going on off the field that he was dealing with and it was just like a lot for him to deal With for the first time head coach and this kind of felt like he was behind it a little bit just You know, he just stressed out of his mind Yeah, all the stress that he had on himself I felt bad for him because he's he's an awesome dude and he cares so much about his players
Starting point is 00:54:32 I mean, it's like all he knows you know guys and met him before he's like football guy to the tee It's like all he knows and it's all he cares about and he was always asking me He would ask every single person knew everybody's backstory where they're from like who their family was he was always asking me about my family My dad is from Pennsylvania. He's from Pennsylvania. He's like always asking about them And you know, so he's just one of the greatest get greatest dudes ever I just kind of felt bad about how that that worked out from that one year We did too now that's not for him But what was it also like was there a point when?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Because you've been through so many head coaches and let's not even say this is Jim Thompson specifically Let's just say any head coach you had is there a real thing where a coach can lose the locker room Yeah, no, I mean, I wasn't saying with him. No, no, right. It could be anyone guys love playing for him But yeah, I've experienced that yeah, what how do you like you just know you feel it people start tuning them out It's not like they just start tuning them out It's just And it's not so much they lose the locker room like they just all turn on the head coach Specifically, but there's definitely times where you know, you just get a sense of
Starting point is 00:55:36 One position groups kind of blame in the other position group Yeah, the the the loss or whatever and then that kind of takes over and starts spilling into week two and You know just kind of becomes a snowball effect and all that stuff And and it's hard to get a control that once that once that goes how correct is the media when they say? Reports are this team is lost the locker room or this coach's lost the locker room. We're right all the time, right? No There's a lot of stuff that said that's like it's not even with that that you just you almost laugh at with a lot of the stuff because it's feel like a lot of the stuff now especially because there's so much stuff out there with the media is Is
Starting point is 00:56:14 People just throw something out there and see if it gets any kind of traction. That's smart. That's you know Click life. Yeah, we did the chip Kelly to Florida question mark tweet and so Sources say you guys had sources say chip Kelly to Florida question mark as players You come become kind of like numb to all that stuff and you really I mean I remember when I was younger and there wasn't so much out there as far as being accessible It did kind of affect you a little bit because these guys were the beat writers and that's basically all that was you know The only people that were reporting were the four or five guys that you saw every day that were there every single day And they kind of had a good they knew right. Yeah a good sense of what was going on
Starting point is 00:56:55 But now it's there's so much out there and people you know to say so much stuff. They just You can't you can't believe me. Yeah, that's all right. So Tom Sula to chip Kelly. Mm-hmm chip Kelly the piss collector Yeah, do you know you're saying earlier that he never examined your piss personal? No He did not. Yeah. No, I Had heard stories though when he came over from Philly that he was a piss collector and I was a little nervous about it because That I mean, have you guys been drug tested ever? Uh-huh Like I have it's a weird thing. Really? Yeah. Yeah, they look
Starting point is 00:57:35 Enough about it. Yeah, it's weird. We'll talk about it. We don't have to get into it Okay, but it's weird and I didn't want that you happening on a daily. Yeah, you guys should drug test us after this. Yeah Yeah, I'll be good. Yeah, was that your way of asking us if we wanted to piss in front of you. Yeah, we'll piss anywhere Yeah, all right, so let's go in that bathroom. That's like five by five Drop your drawers your ankles. He's a face me shirt off shirt. Oh So the other day we had it rookies had it in training camp to get just regular drug tested And you don't get any warning and at 4 30 in the morning the loud banging on your door You have to go down to some random room in the hotel
Starting point is 00:58:13 They like take your shirt off take a picture of you and then like just have you walk in You don't have to have your shirt off in the picture. I don't know Picture No, it's his own choice. He's like, let me take my shirt off. Just let him see it all Why do they make you take your shirt off while you're pissing like a five-year-old because you can't hide something Yeah, that's a very high you can hide you got to see everything to the wisdomator. Yeah, the wisdomator I thought was like a fake dick. Yeah, I mean you could hide anything the blue man state episode or whatever They got to see the skin the skin connection. Yeah of the penis. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's wild
Starting point is 00:58:48 So why don't you just take like a blood test? Yeah Yeah, so Chip didn't collect your piss that's disappointing, but he did lose the team in the second week like you said, yeah That was awful season not because of him I've had pretty good experiences with all of my head coaches like I've had I've liked him a lot as people and guys but That was a rough year because I mean it was two and fourteen and we just couldn't get it right
Starting point is 00:59:23 And he talks outside of his mouth, which is always like what are you doing dude? Just turn out the front of your mouth Does he yeah Kelly? Oh, yeah big-time mountain side mouth talker. Maybe that's yeah, maybe I would need to be paid more attention Yes, I can never get a real deal. I wasn't leading by example. Yeah, I can never figure him out Is he fat or is he not fat like he seems to fluctuate every single week. I can't tell he was active. Yeah Sexually healthy huskies husky. Well, that's the other thing about chip poorly bill Chip seem he's a guy that has like a very very secretive past He won't talk to anybody about his past and he like open up with you guys. Did you know anything about him as a person? No It was only two years ago, and I'm trying to go back and remember stories
Starting point is 01:00:08 But like that year of my life was the worst time I ever had playing football. Yeah, I kind of forgot about it I don't have any good anecdotes with Chip Kelly. It was just kind of One and done and now you have coach Shanahan who seems like a stud awesome. Yeah, and not you're not saying that because he's your boss You're just saying that I'm saying that in a totally Not gunned to my head situation, right, right. This is not under duress right under duress I'm not blinking twice when when you met great when you met John Lynch for the first time and He he spoke with you was there any of that since like it was office space when the guys come in They're like, what exactly do you do here? Like could you tell that he was like feeling you out a little bit?
Starting point is 01:00:49 Or was it just like, okay, this is gonna be my guy Yeah, there was though because it was the you know throughout that whole time with Harbaugh and I'm trying to remember when Trent bulky our old general manager was when he first started. I think it was Harbaugh's year Might have been no I think it was singletary before that we had one general manager here So he knew of I mean he knew everybody and knew me but we had a new general manager here He kind of makes the calls and the roster and all that stuff and it was a weird feeling out period because You know I was going into my 11th year
Starting point is 01:01:20 You don't know how he looks at like veteran players and I'd wanted to kind of prove that I still had some tread left on my tires And able to go still so it was a weird position for me to be in kind of going into that year 11 Still trying to have to prove myself as a worthy football player in his eyes. Yeah, and he's also super Intimidating. Oh, yeah, like he's he's intense. He's Captain America. Yeah, like he's a superhero football player But also like Stanford baseball player very very good human being. Yeah, it's like has his own DNA Yeah Didn't know that he's a accomplished scientist. Yeah, okay, so Mike so your cousin is Matt Ryan He is did you talk? What do you say after the Super Bowl? Give us a headline grab? I didn't touch it
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm in a text like hey, man. Why I said hey No, I said congrats on a great season, but that's I didn't how quickly after the Super Bowl Did you sex that like? Not not within the month. Okay. I was gonna say Just check it there was just more of a checking in as a family member kind of thing Okay, yeah, yeah, I just yeah, that's I mean I couldn't imagine going through that Yeah, pretty tough way to lose and you know, especially being Matt being at the forefront of it Yeah, kind of a tough deal
Starting point is 01:02:35 So your aunt and uncle met our boss in when we were out for us open at Shinnecock And I guess they hate barstool because someone put a what is it a 28 three flag and they're a front lawn So that wasn't that's not Matt's parents. Oh, that was my other my mom My mom and Matt's mom's brother No, but our whole family had like big issues with it because like randomly on the beach like we all vacation together in North Wildwood, New Jersey and they Everywhere you look there was just Half of these people that are dude flying the flag are like long time
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, how the fuck do you think we're gonna pay our salaries? I mean, I'm like those flags That was good for and then I mean, I'm from Philadelphia and the friggin Philly flags took off Yeah, that's true. Luckily the year made money both ways year after Matt's were just everything was removed. Yeah, it's all Harambe getting shot into that and we're really wielding him. We had a pretty good 2016-17-18. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty nice Definitely a lot of merch has he sold. Yeah, has he told you anything about like the NFL or like give me any tips Yeah, I mean here and there nothing like major He's like a superstar quarterback and had my experience in the NFL being an offensive line is gonna be extremely different But you know him and my uncle his dad have been awesome since I was in high school
Starting point is 01:04:01 I think I went to the same high school. He did I chose Notre Dame over BC And I think stung my family a little bit, but whoo. Yeah But no, they've been there ever this type of way Nothing major just kind of how to handle yourself and not to just don't be a fucking idiot. Yeah, has he told you oh, is it okay that you swore? Worst man he like $1,000 he's constantly giving me so much shit about being too politically correct. You are a politician. Yeah That was a that was a great look. It's like is that okay that I said, yeah No, he's like sitting there like with a big-ass grin on his face. I can feel it
Starting point is 01:04:44 Yeah, just watching my baby boy grow up in front of him. You know what? Yeah swearing on lot on live time live Awesome. Okay, Joe. It's kind of fucked up that you were so fast in high school. Like what dude? What the fuck? It's the most fucked up thing trying. Yeah. Yeah. Are you still fast? very yeah Have you asked how I'm definitely slower than I was in high school. Could you play tight end? Uh, no, that's too much too much cutting and running. I'm not good as far as cutting and quick agility stuff It's crazy. Yeah, we'll be Jason Winton the last three years Yeah, I'm probably what was his 40? No, but he just ran straightly. He would do
Starting point is 01:05:24 What was your what was your time at the car seven? Whoo, that's insane. That's crazy It's like Johnny Manziel you're as fast as Johnny Manziel and you weigh like 200 pounds more than that also like We've said this before but I actually think that offensive lineman might be the best athlete like guys like no But like we've given us too much credit. No, but like Lane Johnson can just come over there. There's a freak Yeah, there's some some kind of the same way like these guys are so strong so big and fast like you Yeah, you don't think that that's you think I'm deliming or more and I'm giving them too much credit here But for the brand offensive lineman. Yeah on the whole I mean if you're looking at the like population of the world
Starting point is 01:06:03 Often's a lot many NFL are probably good, you know top This is a math question. You got it percent top five percent. Wow. Yeah, I think it's probably a little bit higher. Five percent of seven billion people of what? That's like millions of people. Yeah, we're like So we're talking physicality, not mentally obviously. 0.05 is what I meant. Yeah, that's what we got better. That's like, yeah, that's what None of us are math guys here, but I think you just said that there are like three hundred million offensive lineman style bodies in the world
Starting point is 01:06:54 No, yeah, you got to give yourself a little more credit. Who's uh, who's the toughest guy that you've ever had to block me? Yeah All right, so Rookie year I played Michael Strahan week four in New York And he was like an idol of mine growing up like he was one of the guys I watched on Sundays grown up and facing him It was his last season the other one the Super Bowl and I freaked out and he was asleep the night before I was so freaking nervous and Got up in the morning chugged a bunch of Red Bull Mm-hmm, it's just like trying to like wake up for the game and proceed to give up three sacks in the first
Starting point is 01:07:30 Then they took him out of the game after you had three sacks in the first half and I was like, oh, thank god I played pretty well That's awesome, uh, do you still hate Kyle Williams, huh Kyle Williams Yeah, yeah for what with all three of those fumbles. No Sure, just like that. No, okay, you guys don't get mad at like fumbles and stuff and yeah, we get mad at fun Bulls yeah, but you can't pin a game on someone like that We had opportunity for that to score true That's a very diplomatic answer. That's the drive take that Mike
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah, that was good games were games were I mean that is the most cookie cutter you guys are players were fans Like you got to know that after every game you got a point one person like that was his fault But if that guy messes up everybody's everybody notices if like you screw up minorly on a play sometimes nobody even notices watching It's just like yeah three big mistakes. No, but I could have there are some times where major mistakes happen Tackle that you just feel like last year for me. I like almost went into a hole after the Georgia game I gave up like this strip sacked and the game. Oh, I remember that. Yeah, it's lost 20 to 19 Yeah, that was a bad game horrible. Yeah horrible experience for me. I lost some money on that one. Yeah, that was one of those times I think I might have
Starting point is 01:08:59 Damn, I just yeah, our entire team. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I lost money on that Yeah, if I remember I think it's the only game we didn't cover. Yeah Can I give you guys a tip like I'd watch a lot of film obviously you probably tell my football like you's pretty high One thing that's gonna be happening a lot next year is defensive ends They're seeing a lot of gift get-and-play on Twitter, right? Like that you saw you saw Vaughn Miller do the fake spin move and that was like a huge gift to Marcus where yeah on me Yeah, oh, that's the market. Oh, that was on you. Whoops. Oh, I saw Vaughn Miller. So Vaughn Miller copy Wait, are you being serious? No Vaughn Miller did one too, but to Marcus where did one? No, that was the original
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's still around. It was like four years ago. That literally circulated like last week Every year it brings stop retweeting it guys. Oh god No, no one's gonna talk about I just told them not to do it was an athletic move for me to spin with the fake spin If he actually spun that was I think move. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I'm it's a lot of credit I'm not doubting that he definitely spun But like you watch the get know when you rewatch the gift that like it looks like you forced him to go back out Because yeah, you went too strong. I did my job Yeah, force to my side. Yeah, just miraculously spun back out. Yeah, that was a good job by you. Good job by you
Starting point is 01:10:19 Great job. I got off the inside I guess what I was just gonna say is like watch out for the fake spin move, but you already know that. Yeah I've been a part of that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, what's funny though is that Nobody retweeted the next two weeks after that happened so when that happened it was like on a Sunday night football game Oh, it went by more viral that whole week. Yeah, the next two weeks I saw that like two times in a game each and I've never seen that before Defensive ends don't do a fake spin move. It was like they had you but he got that they had you and did you I mean Did you see it coming the whole time? Yeah, I mean nobody it's not it. No, it's
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah, you know it's fake spins. Yeah, it's pretty easy. Yeah How awesome was it playing on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in the action? Oh Yeah, go chips. I missed all that. Oh because it was it came after you. Yeah. Oh god. I forgot I like yeah, yeah shit. Yeah, that was Like that's only right after us. Yeah, we had like one game that was like on a Thursday night Yeah, or we got like one primetime game that was on ESPNU or whatever when you all jacked up for it Mm-hmm. Not like it is now man guys got exposure. It's a love it. Yeah I wonder what it's like playing on it on the Tuesday though. I mean I've been to a couple of them mess up your goes up
Starting point is 01:11:29 Yeah, it's there's not a lot going on and Not a lot of people. There's not a lot. No, not a lot of people You can also a lot of the stadiums you can leave at halftime and go back to your tailgate and then a lot of people don't come back So, but it's great for the gamblers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's my favorite of the week Yeah, oh, yeah, how the whole for Monday night. Yeah, how the chips gonna be this year. Good. So follow. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that doesn't sound great. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't sound like you do. I don't have any if like I don't know anybody there I know the head coach coach Bonamago He was a you know NFL coach for a while with the Lions special teams coordinator. He's back there. He's doing good
Starting point is 01:12:06 Great guy, but I don't know anybody everybody left. Who's the most famous put? Oh, no, Antonio Brown Yeah, Antonio and JJ Watt JJ Watt for one year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah for one year. He still don't want to claim it No, I don't claim central with pizza guy there. Yeah, he was yeah, that's central and then he walked on it, Wisconsin Yep, interesting Fisher the best offense attack I'm sure the number one overall pick. Yeah, he's the best. Yeah, best there is What do you dislike more playing on Thursday nights or playing just an East Coast game? Would you here's a would you rather play against Seattle on a Thursday night in Seattle or? Play against we'll just say the Giants
Starting point is 01:12:45 Headline grab right here. Yeah, I don't whatever I don't pick you're gonna be like, yeah Exactly. I really do. I mean not even the teams. I hate playing like East Coast game early East Coast games are the worst Yes, there's just something about like the body clock and the time clock of your body. You just to Cali dude Yeah, yeah, mom don't wake me up. I'm gonna wake up when I wake up Yeah, I'll show up at the game. Yeah, and box someone. Yeah. Oh, here's a good question How big are Frank goers balls? Yeah, those things were flopping Dude, they go everywhere. It's like the slow-mo camera when it's on Frank goers balls is it's insane watching dude. Yeah, and Yeah, he would wear
Starting point is 01:13:32 I think you know, I think you're like a jockstrap on or something a jockstrap and no cup, right? Yeah, no cup But I think yeah, he wouldn't wear underwear I remember I do remember like a couple clips like watching the TV copy going back at night and there'd be like You know Frank's coming around the edge and the camera's just like right there and it's like yeah See if he gets his feet in bounds like holy shit I've I've clipped I've like done a clip of Frank goers balls on many occasions a couple guys It's you know, just watching ball. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap it up. We got the C key questions the last question promo code take Put it in $10 off to see the 49ers play
Starting point is 01:14:09 What are you guys predict your record this year? Let's do that. Oh a record prediction. Yeah Jimi Grappler's never lost the game never. He is yet to lose. So we'll just stick with that heard it here first We're gonna go on a season. Do you know, I mean, I don't know the prediction stuff is like, okay I will say this you definitely get a sense of and I You get a sense as you're going through the off-season and training camp of like how the team is gonna be you really I mean people that tell you that it's kind of you're bullshitting. You just want to be political Like to give to give like the correct answer
Starting point is 01:14:45 But you get a sense of what the team's gonna be and you know the direction everybody's going how close the locker room is with the coaching staff So like So I mean we've the coaching's like the year that we were with Chip Kelly like I understood that was gonna be a bad I felt like it was gonna be a bad year that year this in training camp I was like this is gonna be a struggle this season. I don't think it was gonna be two and fourteen You know, I kind of you know hoped and wished and willed it to be a little bit better than that But you kind of get a sense. This is a long-winded answer. I think we're gonna be really good this year Okay, I feel I feel confident with the team the direction we're going coaching staffs amazing
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Starting point is 01:18:27 It's an incredible deal for a suit that's gonna fit you better than anything off the rack ever could okay Let's get to some segments first up We have a respect the biz for Nick Saban the other thing that Nick Saban did on Saturday night was after the game He had an interview on the field with Maria Taylor Yep, and Maria Taylor asked about the two quarterbacks because Nick Saban played both and as you mentioned one got all the touchdowns What big cats trying to do right now is trying to make me say something bad about one quarterback and something good about another Quarterback that just happened to perform way way better than the other guy So that was PFT playing Nick Saban there the exact quote was I think both guys can help our team
Starting point is 01:19:07 All right, so why do you continually try to get me to say something that doesn't respect one of them? I'm not going to so quit asking. He was actually way angrier than how I just preached it. So quit asking Yeah, so he is so pissed that people keep asking about The best team in the country having two quarterbacks When the court coach won't actually say definitively who his starter is going forward even though like you said again Tua is Insanely fun to watch like the best probably the best pro quarterback that Nick Saban will ever have yes because he doesn't like how much
Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah, and then he still has Jalen Hurts sitting there and playing a little bit and but don't ask We're watching a man go through the stages of denial right now. So it's maybe dimension Yeah, maybe dimension to if you have two dogs. Let's say you have two dogs Okay, one is like a one's airbud Mm-hmm, and the other it has rabies and keeps shitting all over the house and it's a pug But you've had that well, no offense. I like pugs. Yeah, but what's a shitty dog a cock or spaniel? Yeah, actually pugs aren't shitty dogs. Yeah, pugs are just it's more that pug owners are like They're really into they love pugs
Starting point is 01:20:20 Yeah, they have us you if you're a pug owner you have to have a shirt saying you're pug Oh, yes, absolutely that doesn't apply for any other type of dog. I actually have a shirt that says don't you have a pug shirt? What oh, are you looking at that at the gas station? It doesn't count. Yeah, but yeah So he's got airbud and then he has just a shitty dog with two legs That has irritable it or irritable bowel syndrome and rabies wait, but no don't do this because all dogs I love all dogs. No, no, no another one like this dog. No that dog. I still love see this is what Nick Saban's dealing with Yeah, it is it's tough. It's true
Starting point is 01:20:53 Okay, it's like going to go into a bar and they're like hey Would you rather have malort or Johnny Walker blue more more? Yeah, you obviously say yes Yeah, but you actually this is a good point because as a Chicago guy, you know that Johnny Walker blue is way better Right, but you're like, but you know what I've got this emotional history to this shitty shitty thing He he means a lot to me. It's like where I come from. Yeah. Yeah, so that's exactly what he's going through right now He's in denial about Jalen Hurd's being bad. He knows that he's bad No, Jalen Hurd is not bad Not bad. I took him back out. No, he is what he is is he is like is as conservative as it gets
Starting point is 01:21:35 He's not a great thrower. He can run the ball. He won't turn it over That's where this whole thing is like driving Nick Saban insane because to a his ceiling is insane But he is going to make a couple Terrible throws and a couple of fumbles and just like things that like that turnovers make Nick Saban Want to throw up on the field So that's why he has this problem going on anything that doesn't go according to plan right in the process and that's all To it snaps the ball and immediately turns us back to the entire defense. Yeah, and then somehow turns around and throws like a 30-yard bomb Yeah, so that's what drives Nick Saban insane
Starting point is 01:22:13 But he knows what's gonna win them more football games But he also knows there's gonna be a moment like against Ole Miss where to a throws a ball in the third quarter and they're you know Like a pick six and they're gonna be down and he's gonna he's like maybe I should just go with Jalen Yeah, Nick Saban is like an in halfway character in in a romantic comedy Like he loves to have everything so type a like surprises They don't like them until you meet the bad boy right and the bad boy turns them out right or I would even say let's talk friends I would say that Jalen Hurt is like a Charlotte. Okay, and Tua is a Samantha. Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Yeah, so yes, you got the conservative girl
Starting point is 01:22:53 She's very buttoned up does doesn't really make that many mistakes Sometimes you just want to go out there and fuck right Nick Saban's been doing missionary for his whole life and Tua comes and sits Reverse cowgirl on his cock. Yeah, he's like what this is. I'm looking at your butt right now. Let's go right Yeah, this is weird at first. It's concerning and you're like are you hurt? Are you okay? It's why it's just can my dick bend this but then it's like wow it feels pretty good once you start rock This is sick So yeah, Nick Saban he yelled the Maria Taylor then he apologized after so that was Okay, we have as a white guy
Starting point is 01:23:25 As a white guy We don't know how to deal with Nike going forward because they have just announced that Colin Kaepernick is going to be ahead of their 30-year campaign So what do we do? Do we burn our shoes? I was the product that we have bought with our money I was I was thinking that I would get a Nike tattoo, but then get it removed. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah So it's like I go through a little bit of pain for it to show that I'm committed I of course I pay for it send royalties to Oregon Either that or Nike could actually this is an opportunity for Nike. Mm-hmm. They could just offer fuzzy Zeller big contract get both sides
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yes Or what they really should do Nike should start making uniforms for soldiers Yeah, you should start just outfitting the military I just our friend from our friend of the program Dan here and just sent me a text He had a to hug owner tweet pug owner a tweet that he saw on his timeline And it was someone a producer for some show cut the Nike Logos office socks. That was big and rich's sound guy. I did it. I saw that too So he's just walking around with socks that don't hold up cities. Yeah, no
Starting point is 01:24:34 Listen, it's coming to your sit. I listen. I don't I don't want to get like ultimately I don't give a fuck about like this thing is just insane But the fact it's the same as the Keurig like the fact that people are going to destroy their own clothes Mm-hmm to try to own someone is maybe the most hilarious thing ever it is. Yeah, it's very funny They work it all look at these hundred and fifty dollar shoes. I'm throwing in the trash Yeah, I'm telling you getting it's worth it for that clout for those retweets that you're gonna get that guy's tweet Yeah, I guarantee you he's had like a million more impressions on that tweet than anything else. He's ever put out It's fucking socks won't stand won't well up
Starting point is 01:25:08 Listen, if you're big and rich you take anything you you take publicity wherever you can get it now that you're not the college Game-day band anymore. Yeah, imagine dragon just cut the shit out of you, bro. True. Although they did They had someone else out there. Oh, Luke Bryan. No, no, no, no ESPN used Mr. Electric Yeah, Luke Bryan was there with time Notre Dame guy Eric church booked or what? You see a rod is undefeated in lifetime. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, we know Corp stays winning Either way the Colin Kaepernick. I don't I like what are we gonna do? I mean, I think it would be funny though if Nike made like some serious fits for the military Yeah, and then like every country that got into a bidding war like Under Armour is sending their trash unis over to like Belarus
Starting point is 01:25:51 Yeah, that'd be fun. It's like when they had a war. It was also like an athletic event Oh, I know that's gonna come out of this is I'm going to be sick of the debate of what do we do with Nike? Actually, I'm already sick. Yeah, I already done with it. I already said took two seconds Okay, last up we have our Monday readings, which we are doing for you guys mandate It is pretty hard for us to read but we're doing it for you guys. So this one is a special one It had the title of it It's it's on politico and the title of it is how football fed Timothy McVeigh's despair So just take that in first. Okay, Timothy McVeigh notice the flow of the LA Rams. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:26:34 So Timothy McVeigh who hate it? Why don't you give a background for to make they why look at you just gonna drop that one? You go so Timothy McVeigh was like he was in the military. I forget what branch he served in in Operation Desert Storm in the early 90s and they came back and he saw like the Waco standoff and Ruby Ridge and got very very radicalized and became a domestic terrorist bought a shitload of fertilizer and drove it into a federal building In Oklahoma City and set off a bomb and killed I don't know hundreds of people bad guy bad guy bad dude very bad guy Okay, so the premise of this article we said like how football fed to Timothy McVeigh And it starts basically going through every single Super Bowl loss that the bills had okay
Starting point is 01:27:19 Yeah relevant relevant for sure and said like this Imagine, you know having you know being in a desert storm Veteran coming back having a shitty job and being a diehard bills fan like just painting this picture and like all these losses And then it goes we'll cut in there the young man was Timothy McVeigh He was a Buffalo bills super van super fan McVeigh grew up in a rural town called Lockport Just on the edge of Buffalo the fringe of the American fringe and Bill's football was sort of a religion for him He was bright, but scrawny kid noodle McVeigh bullies called him raised mostly by his father who worked in a radiator factory And then it goes on to talk about
Starting point is 01:28:00 Radiator factory sons boring as shit. Yeah, that's tough. So he went job's job though. Mm-hmm job is job No, we're not gonna job shame people. No, if you do not work at Trader Joe's Tangent that fucking job shaming of the Cosby guy. Yeah, that was fucked up. It was that was really fucked up like the guy's working a job so it goes on to talk about how he was a big-time Buffalo bills fan and Watched them lose and then it we we we pick back up in the 1993 so he's back home in Buffalo Settled in to watch the game the national anthem at the Super Bowl was performed by Garth Brooks Perhaps the world's most famous, Oklahoma
Starting point is 01:28:38 fact-check Mostly true, but that also see that connection there. Oh Yeah, so he saw him and got fixated like that guy from Oklahoma. Well, no, you're wrong. He was McVay was part of the CIA mind control program and his trigger was to see somebody from Oklahoma that would set him on a crash course Yes So now this writer is going into the mind of Timmy McVay during the Super Bowl the beginning of the game would have pleased him The bill stifled the Cowboys opening drive blocked their subsequent punt and scored a quick touchdown They stuffed the Cowboys second possession to finally everything in a Super Bowl was going Buffalo's way
Starting point is 01:29:15 McVay had always been a dramatic TV watcher yelling and cursing and throwing objects objects at the screen That's just silly just asshole. Yeah. Yeah, I mean when things went wrong and at this point You must practically have been doing backflips Then suddenly everything fell apart the bills made a careless throw the Cowboys intercepted it returned to 13 yards scored moments later The bills fumbled, you know what everything happens at halftime Timothy McVay had to sit there and wait pondering his increasingly long odds Well, Michael Jackson saying we are the world with 3,500 Children that's kind of that's weird. Yeah, I'm back on that. That one's kind of fun Yeah, the second half was if anything worse more interceptions more fumbles and another Super Bowl first 21 answered points in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 01:29:56 So it keeps going on and it says just four weeks after the disastrous buff Super Bowl loss McVay found and latched on to the cause that would define the rest of his life a group of citizens in Waco, Texas A religious cult called the Branch Davidians. So you got that so the bills lost a Super Bowl Jim Kelly Weeks later responsible for a lot of blood on American soil and then the best part about this whole article This guy does this whole thing where he's like sitting in Timothy Timothy McVay's Mind watching the Super Bowl and saying like this is what happened. This could be You know, like the Buffalo Bills led Timothy McVay and then he ends it with or he gets in there saying
Starting point is 01:30:36 I am not saying the Timothy McVay bombed Oklahoma City in 1995 because the Buffalo Bills Lost four Super Bowls in a row, but I'm not saying he didn't either. Yeah, such a claim would be absurd Human motives are incalculably complex But that Buffalo heartbreak was one of the many shadows that fell across McVay's life Between his unstable childhood and his perpetration of mass murder in Oklahoma City Jesus, you know what all this could have been cured If he just had a few folding tables that he could have jumped through Yeah, that was it. That was a thing back in 1992 then boom
Starting point is 01:31:09 He gets all his aggression out and his destructive side just goes through a table and he's fine We're not in this mess. We're what where does How does this take come out? Like how do you wake up one day as a writer? Like, you know what hasn't been said? How the bills being shitty in Super Bowls created Timothy McVay? Well, this goes back to my long-standing belief that every time somebody is arrested for a violent crime They should say what sports team they're a fan of yes. Yes, which is a genius idea And that way we can tie in all sorts of things to their torture You can make full assumption like if if like a Patriots fans were to be arrested like what's that guy's problem?
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah, it's going pretty well. Yeah, exactly. Come on rounds fans rest. You're like, you know what? Let him off. He's got a lot to deal with the real punishment would be having to watch the Browns every year There's a lot of crime in New York City and the Jets suck Yeah, and the Rangers suck and Ray Lewis and Ray Lewis stop crime in Baltimore. That's true when this when they won the Super Bowl Yeah, Chicago's got some crime, too. Not anymore. Not anymore. There's Clio Max in town turn of the Mac Yeah, Ray Lewis stop in crime in Baltimore because didn't he say that was less crime when the Ravens were playing Yeah, because he was on the field, right? Yeah, exactly. Oh Man, okay, so yeah, that was Monday readings credit to us again not not saying we're bragging
Starting point is 01:32:24 But that's too in a row. I had a pretty good Rick Riley joke on Twitter Do you want me to do an audible version of it? Please okay for the Timothy McVay Buffalo bills Hey, why what happened between the two of those? They both went wide, right? Yeah, I like a radical right wing. Yeah, that's pretty good You're just reading your own tweets though and saying it's a Rick Wiley tweet. That's your treat. Yes No, no, you're true. I mean, that's mostly when PFT says like Rick Riley joke. Yeah, usually just history Yeah, it's usually my it's usually tweets that didn't make that didn't make it Yeah, it's still in the drafts. Oh, I breaking news. Yeah breaking moose
Starting point is 01:33:00 Well, it's not really it's a whoa. Okay. I have a whoa. Oh, that's good. Thank you. Stop the move. Yeah That cow's got blue balls. Yeah This is a big whoa coming from Braxton Berrios, New England Patriots wide receiver. I think he just got put on the IR It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war Discuss garden Why would you be a warrior in a garden? I like if you get lost maybe no because you're not fighting in the war, but you're in a garden But you're still warrior. So he's on IR. Yeah, he's not in the war
Starting point is 01:33:38 Garden, so he'd rather be rather be on IR than be a doctor on an NFL roster Yeah, or just not playing but healthy but healthy. Yeah, I got you. That's a good spin zone. That actually is great Mm-hmm. Good job Braxton. You really did it Although Bill Boucher is gonna cut you because you have no use to him. He also got two new white wide receivers today Oh, so he's he's really collecting all of them. I think he's got like six It's not even worth making the jokes anymore because it's so obvious. Oh by the way a little quick update from Friday's show Julian Edelman not the brag did text me and said hangs dead to me Deal with that. He said I'll just kidding, but still I think you're dead. Not that does
Starting point is 01:34:17 Love you guys, especially Julian. No matter what Hank says Rob Lowe tomorrow Hey Hey It's part of my take presented by bar stool sports

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