Pardon My Take - Adam Morrison, Dick Pound From The IOC, NFL 100 RB List, Mt Flushmore of Candy

Episode Date: April 1, 2020

It's all hands on deck to figure out a way to save sports forever. Big Cat has decided to take the approach they're never coming back in hopes to get everyone to figure out innovation (2:12 - 16:30). NFL 100 running back list is discussed and we make some additions and subtractions (16:30 - 31:20). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (31:20 - 46:09). Old friend of the program Adam Morrison calls in to talk about why now would be a great time to have an apocalypse bunker even though he doesn't have one plus a great John Stockton story (46:09 - 58:16). IOC member Dick Pound joins the show to talk about the reasoning behind Olympics cancellation, the fight against steroids, and whether or not he ever thought about going by Richard (58:16 - 81:58). Segments include Thoughts and Prayers to Joe Buck and Mt Flushmore of Candy.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Welcome to part of my takers in about the cash app go downloaded right now use code partially get ten dollars for free ten dollars The ASPCA today is Wednesday, April 1st April Fool's Day guys. We have no sports and everything's canceled forever And I know I'm not trying to be a bummer But when Brian Windhorse broke the Chinese basketball news to me That was a gut punch because here's here's what I'm doing. I'm a calendar guy I'm trying to figure out how we're gonna get back into this thing Chinese basketball China is four months around three months

Like ahead of us schedule wise that means we aren't gonna have sports. We're not gonna be ready for sports at the very earliest Somewhere in June July, and I don't think that's happening. So I don't know how time zones work I think they're only like 12 hours ahead at least when I was there. That's what the clock told me I'm not I'm just thinking that China doesn't want us to have basketball. So that's why they're postponing their own season I think that there's plenty of room for negativity to be coming up later this summer Just give me something off in the distance that I can look forward to give me a mirage that I can pull myself towards Don't tell me that there's nothing out there. Allow me to be disappointed a little bit later. See this is I'm

Approaching this the exact opposite way. I have canceled sports for 2020 2021 and possibly 2022 and anything that we get That comes sooner than that is a bonus I'm not gonna let myself get my heart broken over and over because here's the thing I'm so stupid I still think somehow they're gonna play March Madness and I have to just remove myself From that that thought and be like listen, nothing's getting played forever like not to be alarmist But the world has ended and sports are over. Well, so that's not true First of all, it's padley false and I can prove that's false because we are getting a golfing showdown between

Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods with maybe Tom Brady and Peyton Manning like playing doubles against each other That would be awesome Right, I think that like these celebrity golf things are gonna be the only thing that we're gonna have to pull us through the spring Time we could do Like any sport that's one-on-one with distance like tennis is perfect We can just get better have better play against Nadal every single weekend for the next three months PFT The future of sports is everyone watching video games and then every three weeks or so a Closed set where Dana White has people beat the fuck out of each other. That's all we have

You're forgetting about the Brady versus Manning thing that that's gonna get canceled I'm so like I'm like you are but it's gonna be Manning against Brady. I don't care if it's not football It's still in my mind in my brain. It's football. They just guys going at each other They just created that event just so they can cancel it. I'm sorry. Everyone's addicted to canceling shit now It's fucking it's a joke. So I'm I am listen. This is the this is I'm gonna you to calm down No, no, this is how this is how you have to cope you have to put your guardrails up You have to not let yourself get hurt repeatedly because I know some people are saying oh well wait till May 1st I'll figure out just get this through your brain that we're never gonna watch sports again

And then if they say hey, guess what we're gonna play 10 games of baseball in fucking November I'll be so pumped for that. I won't give a fuck So that's where I'm going from like if they give me an MLS if the sounders play the fucking KC Whatever the hell they are in in in December I'm good with that because I've already set the expectation. I'm never gonna see live sports again stand down stand down pessimist cat Negativity cat. I'm not gonna be able to deal with like Going through the entire rest of this year with no sports whatsoever. It's just not it's not even an option in my head

We're gonna get sports exactly. That's why you're gonna break your heart again I don't care. My heart my heart is callous over seven times There's enough Game of Thrones for me to watch going into 2022 if I have to okay I've got a stock pile of content that I can get into there's Quick wait hold on hold on is it weird though that you're watching Game of Thrones But you know exactly what happens because you watch the whole season last season with us I watched the last season in the recaps and the full recaps that you talked about all the time The recaps were about 15 minutes long and every single clip was a second

So I don't know what the hell happens to any character I vaguely remember what happens to like to aria. I know what happens to aria and the night king and all that stuff I remember what happens to kings landing at the very end of the dragons and all that But there's so many characters in that show that I abs I could not tell you what happens to the hound I don't know what happens to Khaleesi's boyfriend or whatever if I can make a recommendation PFT You should just skip to the third season and watch it three four five six seven eight one two. Yes That's how true fans watch okay, but no big cat here's what I'm saying like there will be sports We need to say out loud. There will be sports. You know why there will be sports

Because our good friend Mike Florio is going to ensure that there will be sports He is Mike Florio is establishing emergency protocols He wants the NFL to be run like the shadow government in case like New York City and Washington DC is hit with a Thermonuclear bomb where they fly all the important people out to West Virginia Put him in the Greenbrier in the hills and just have it be a self-contained You're a coronavirus free football league. Okay, you're you're misunderstanding where I'm coming from I want there to be sports. I want someone to solve it. I actually hated I was watching I don't even know I was flipping through channels

And I I landed on the Lebertad show on Monday and they were making fun of Jay Williams and his cruise idea You shut up Lebertad show anyone who has innovation in this sports like trying to save sports is welcome to me Like I Jay Williams that idea is patently ridiculous, but I don't care because at least he's trying So I'm down for people to try. I will help trying. I'll use my brain. I'll donate my brain to sports I'm telling you what I'm saying right now is to set the expectations. So you cannot continually get your heart broken That's where I'm coming from. I do not want to tell myself again. I'm the person who still thinks they're gonna play March Madness I don't know how but I feel like they could so what I'm trying to do here is set the expectation at no sports ever again So that way anything I get I am so so excited about

Okay, as a DC sports fan, I've had my heart broken up where I'm it's calloused over already I don't care if it continues to break my heart. I'm fine. I'm fine I'm just I just need to have an illusion that there will be sports But there are people out there who think that like may first we're gonna have no So that's not gonna happen crazy man. That's not gonna happen. And I'm stop. I'm with you on the like Yeah, let's get as many minds as many weird ideas in this room as possible I want it to be like you remember in Apollo 13 when they were trying to figure out how to fit that square Air filter into the circle plug and they just got all the nerds into a room and just dump like coffee makers and shit onto a table

That's what America needs to be right now We all need to be huddled in in the back room of NASA trying to contribute our ideas no stupid ideas No such thing as a bad idea just dump it all out there on the table And I think we can make something happen So Floreo had the idea of putting all the all the NFL teams in the Greenbrier the one resort in West Virginia Making everybody live there for a year. Floreo just wants to be able to cover the team from his backyard like that's Like hey, hey, they should play the NFL. They should play the NFL season in Brooklyn Yeah, Mike Floreo just doesn't want to fly because he's afraid of it

Yes, and so it's actually a genius move on his part But I don't hate the idea of whether it's the NBA or the NFL or any sport Playing like a self-contained area because you can double dip you can get a little extra revenue You turn it also into a reality show like the ultimate fighter So you get cameras inside big houses like every time that's the big three's idea dude The entire league is on hard knocks and that's what it's a bonus reality show and sports league at the same time Like let's that's not a dumb idea. I know what you dumb idea, but it's not a dumb idea right now The big three is literally doing yes, I'm trying to do exactly what you just said dude J. Williams idea is smart

It's stupid, but it's fucking smart and he actually had a practical The thing what we need right now is everyone needs to start with a practical little kernel So his little kernel was that Mickey erin's erin's in the code of the owner of the heat Owns Carnival Cruises and you start an Eastern conference cruise and a Western conference cruise And you just fucking put the NBA out in the ocean for the next three months and let them hash it out And everyone was mocking him and I don't want to hear that shit because we need innovation is the Manhattan Project This is a Manhattan Project to save sports So everyone you shut the fuck up get in line and figure out a way to give me a game because right now you heard

Where I said at the start I cancel sports till 2022. What is the Manhattan project the atomic bomb? It's two shots of bourbon one of sweet from Ruth some bitters on top on the rock shaking boom you're good So I think that what we should do is like let's just dump some ideas out there Underwater football, but it's in a bubble like at the bottom of the ocean. Okay. How about just going on to an island? I feel like you're gonna want that ocean on top of you. No, I think we're gonna do they NFL The NFL actually should be looking at like island property right this second. They should be looking wherever the fucking Bahamas bowls played the Popeyes Bowl when when the Mac team goes there and scores like a hundred points and

The wind's blowing and there's like four people in the stadium find that stadium wherever it is I'm sure it's not hard. She probably just Google it and set that up like let's just play on an island Fuck it go to Hawaii go back to probable. I mean if we're doing Manhattan project Let's go to the Bikini Islands and let's go to the middle of the desert in New Mexico. Yes I don't think that they've got an outbreak just there yet. Just play on former nuclear sites. How about that? That's actually perfect. I doubt the virus can exist in an environment where it's being bombarded by radiation all the time They should play the NBA season. They no one's in the hotels in Vegas right now Just fucking take over one huge hotel and seal that thing off biodome that shit or

Even better go to the Hoosiers gym in Indiana and watch everyone fucking There's no three-pointers and let's just go back in time and we'll play basketball that way I don't care like you you take over a small town in Indiana. You could probably get away with you know Not having the corona virus get in Where where can the virus where is it difficult for viruses to exist in the heat? Is that what she taught us? No, by the way Fauci a little bit of a clout chaser Fauci is getting You can you can tell that Trump's getting mad because Fauci's becoming more popular than he is

So pretty soon Trump's gonna be like Fauci's getting his ideas from me. What about What about playing it on a Navy ship? It's no different aircraft character. That's what I've been saying play Michigan State in fucking Memphis play week one in college basketball It's always so stupid because no one knows like how to how to Handicap a game that has wind and it's on an actual boat, but I don't care. Yeah, no, I'm fine with that I've been fine I think that was the first suggestion that we had was to play the NCAA tournament on a variety of aircraft carriers

Bring the world together and have you all like contribute your military ships for the greater good That that would actually help solve world peace if we could just get all our militaries to collaborate together on sports I always play on like in a giant field with no out-of-bounds markers So everyone can practice distancing. It's because here's the thing. It's gonna be impossible I saw that there was talk of having NFL teams use like virtual reality headsets to do virtual walkthroughs and practices and stuff That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work at all. I mean I can see the draft working Are we another option? Just give us like a bunch of drafts Just do like seven drafts this year the year that there were no sports only drafts

Bill O'Brien is gonna kick ass at participating in drafts where he's not even allowed to have physical contact with a person That's what sold him on Brock Osweiler. I'll turn him around I don't care. Whatever it has to happen They need to figure out and I'm sick and this is my message to all the haters out there who say like this is a ridiculous idea How could you be throwing these ideas out there when there's a pandemic? Listen? We know that they're ridiculous ideas But some of the one of these ideas is gonna hit and at some point one of these leagues is gonna be like, yeah You know what? Let's move everyone to a remote island. Let's move everyone to a cruise ship

So the more like the more we get this into the mainstream talk that they need to start doing innovative things The better so keep doing that and the one thing I will say that Like the one solace I take in all this is I'm pretty sure the SEC will play no matter what like the NFL could be canceled college football would be canceled every swore would be canceled until 2021 and the SEC We'd like know the show must go on so I guess at least we have that Nick Saban at the very least is gonna be like I'm gonna be out there on Saturday I I'm gonna be there and he'll just go out on the sideline expect his boys to follow him out like Nick Saban if you think that you're keeping Nick Saban in the house for an entire fall, but you got another thing coming

All right, so someone fixed sports for us. We're open to all ideas. Don't be a hater when people throw out Crazy ideas are not that crazy because guess what we need sports back. We just need it. We need it. We need it. We need it moon golf Moon golf works Hit it fucking a million miles keeps going To we do the NFL 100 the running backs spicy mad about a list. Yeah, all right. All right So let me throw out there what they ended up with they had 12 running backs on this 12, which is a lot I think what do we have what do we do last week? What do we do?

What do we do tight ends tight ends tight ends was only like five or six so the running backs they had they have pre 1970 running backs Tim Brown Marion Motley Steve Van Buren Lenny Moore Earl Dutch Clark and Gale Sayers So that group I don't even know what we do with that group. Sure Jim Brown Obviously number one go through it like whatever who cares I don't know, you know Gale Sayers. I know Gale Sayers. I know Jim Brown the other guys like, okay I'll take your word for it kind of thing the six more recent so 1970s on

Earl Campbell Walter Peyton Barry Sanders OJ Simpson Eric Dickerson Emmett Smith Where do you want to start because I actually have I'm just gonna get started by saying like OJ Simpson like I get it But I mean come on You you could have very easily not put OJ Simpson on this list and nobody would been like hey What the fuck? Why don't you put OJ Simpson on the list? I agree? He was like he was a running back in the 70s though. I know that because I just watched the documentary yesterday Okay, so he's a one guy. He was the guy it would be it would be incorrect for them not to put him in there

He he I agree with you PFT. I don't I could do without him I also could do probably without Earl Campbell and I have I think Walter Peyton Barry Sanders Emmett Smith and Eric Dickerson are pretty much locks in there So if we're saying we're gonna take Earl Campbell out and OJ Simpson and let's just say I would keep Earl Campbell Okay, well, I disagree. I think okay. Let's get into it I think the three running backs that they totally missed and that at least two no actually I think all of them are better than Earl Campbell Adrian Peterson should be in there. I agree Lydian Tomlinson should be in there and Marshall Fox should be in there

Okay, those are the three that I had on my list as well that you probably could I also put Frank Gore on that list No, I had Jamal Lewis as well. Wait, wait now if you're gonna if you're gonna be a Jason Whitton guy You have to be a friend hold on Wait, hold on. Hold on. I wasn't a Jason Whitton guy. I never said Jason Whitton should be in the in the in the best Titans I said he was in my third group or second group the next group So he was never in my said I never I know but remember I put him after three other people So he wasn't even I put him after Shannon Sharp I put him after Ozzie Newsom and I put him after

Another person so don't you also Jason Whitton was never in my in my even close to my top tight Yes, he sounded like a Jason Whitton stand. So you know, you also could have Curtis Martin on this list I thought Earl Campbell. I think okay. Hold on. Hold on go back to to Frank Gore you and we're gonna get to wide receivers You want Larry Fitzgerald who's also a compiler of stats. So where do you stand on that? I just don't like Jason Whitton I've been very good. All right, but I never said Jason Whitton should be even close to the top fire I said he was just

Somewhere close. He was he was after three guys had three guys that were better than it. What are you doing Hank? I think I think thanks for remembering this conversation a little bit differently. I oh my god I had three guys that were ahead of Jason Whitton. So he was the ninth best tight end Okay, of all time, which is so that would yeah, I would have Frank Gore as maybe my ninth best running back of all So you would have him above Walter Payton Barry Sanders Adrienne Peterson Marshall Falk LT Eric Dickerson

Jim Brown Gale Sayers all these other guys they have pre-1970 no disrespect to Earl Dutch Clark But you only get one Earl per list It's a rule that I just made up right now But I feel like it's a good rule for this NFL 100 and Earl Campbell is the Earl that I'm gonna go with You guys I at least remember I I've seen him play and he's a great player. He's a great college player great NFL player You saw that play where he put his head down and just ran that guy over We can't in this list

We I think we have to unfortunately the way they like compiled this list. They have six guys that are pre-1970 I don't think we can like we have to just go with their pre-1970 list We have to if we want to replace Current running backs with the current running backs list we can do that But I don't think we can touch because otherwise I just eliminate everyone except Jim Brown and Gale Sayers from the pre-1970 You know what I mean? I'm fine with that. No, but I'm saying I don't think we can I think to make it difficult We cannot touch the pre-1970s list. How about this? We should be able to get rid of one of the guys We out of the group of Earl Dutch Clark

Marion Motley who The big takeaway about Marion Motley from the people that nominated would said they said that offensively He was a blocker as much as he was a runner All right, so we get one of them away. So and then you got Marion Motley and then you have Steve Van Buren Who has a total of 5,800 career Russian yards? Alright, so pre-1970 you get to take away one. I agree with that now. Give me your list then of so it'd be give me your seven 1970s and on list. Okay, so in that case I'm gonna go with Earl Campbell

Eric Dickerson Walter Payton Barry Sanders Emmett Smith Marshall Falk that's six. How many do I get one more? Yeah, Lydani Tomlinson. That would be my list if I could get rid of one Wait, you just thought we did you say Barry Sanders? Yeah. Wait, what say it again then? Earl Campbell my list Earl Campbell Eric Dickerson Walter Payton Barry Sanders

Emmett Smith Marshall Falk LT Okay So I don't have And you don't have Adrian shit. Yeah, Adrian Peterson actually come I'm taking Marshall Falk off putting AP on okay So I'll make the case that my list would be Walter Payton Barry Sanders Eric Dickerson Emmett Smith

Adrian Peterson Marshall Falk and LT so I was looking through it If you want to do Earl Campbell who's like a powered running back Adrian Peterson and you could make the argument that it's harder to be a runner in like this era of the NFL Adrian Peterson had eight years over a thousand rushing yards and one year. He had 970 that was he played 12 games. He tore his ACL Earl Campbell had five years over 1300 yards and If you go their best year to best year Adrian Peterson

Less than nine months after tearing his ACL had 2097 yards 12 TDs Earl Campbell had 1934 yards 13 TDs I think Adrian Peterson is a better longevity wise as well a better running back than Earl Campbell I think so too, but I'm still keeping Earl Campbell on the list and most of it admittedly is because that cool play where he put his head down Ran the dude over and then he got his jersey taken off as he was running forward because that's a cool play That's his Heisman moment for the NFL 100 list I think Adrian Peterson should be on it Peterson should be on it Marshall Falk. I was looking through the Marshall Falk numbers He had he had 11 straight years over a thousand yards from scrimmage four straight

over 2,000 yards and then in his 2000 season he had 2189 all-purpose yards 26 touchdowns and LT is the biggest travesty to me because LT Going through LT's numbers It's fucking insane. His peak was so ridiculous He had eight seasons in a row with over a thousand yards at least ten TDs And then he had a hundred catches in 2003 so he could do both and then that 2006 season I went through the game logs. I don't know like there's probably some people who listening who probably don't I

Don't know how old you'd have to be if you were Yeah, I mean if you were if you're like 20 if you even if you're 25 what year would you be Hank? What year were you born? 93 Okay, so if you're like 22 you probably don't fully remember 2006 Lydany and Tomlinson So from week 8 to week 15, I'm just gonna read the stats because they're fucking insane This is like the old the Barry Sanders like go through his or Jerry Rice fantasy stats He had 240 all-purpose yards three touchdowns 192 all-purpose yards three touchdowns 158 all-purpose yards four touchdowns

179 yards four touchdowns 114 yards two touchdowns 192 yards two touchdowns 112 yards three touchdowns and 204 yards two touchdowns in eight weeks the Chargers went 8-0 and he had 23 total touchdowns It's pretty impressive. That's fucking insane. Yeah, I'll do the same LT very clearly should be on this list I don't know why they devalued modern running backs because I don't care who you talk to Adrian Peterson and Lydany and Tomlinson Are probably two of the top four in the right and I don't I don't know why they left them off this list I don't understand Adrian Peterson over or Earl Campbell over Adrian Peterson when you stack them up

And it's like Adrian Peterson did it for a lot longer and not to mention like Adrian Peterson did lose a year of his career to you know, the whole off-field issue which was up Like still his peak his peak he he like didn't peak It's crazy to look at Adrian Peterson be like, how did this guy do this like when he had it He had a thousand yards last year right two years ago a couple years ago. Yeah, it's crazy So I think he should be on the list So that that's that was my biggest bone to pick take Earl Campbell take OJ Simpson off and throw those three guys on

Now are they putting anybody on this list that is a current NFL Network employee? Because maybe that was a conflict of interest type deal for Marshall Fock and For LT doesn't LT contribute to them. Oh, he might be. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know I just thought the whole thing like I actually got kind of mad looking at all the stats And I was like, why aren't these guys on this list? This makes no sense to me There were some no-brainers that like Walter Payton Barry Sanders Emmett Smith like absolute no-brainers, but when it comes to Adrian Peterson LT and and Marshall Fox like well, this makes no sense. These guys should all be on the list. Mm-hmm I agree. So I think in hindsight. We basically agree on everything except for or Earl Campbell, right?

You have a candle and I have him out. He only did it. You know stairs. He didn't I thought you said you took Earl Dutch Clark off. I Did yeah, so you didn't have to take gales airs off. I want to send a message Gales airs was pre 1970. Yeah, Gales airs was a hell of a player Yeah, I mean gales airs was kind of the If you look he doesn't have the stats He was the more like what if he didn't get hurt and like what if he played in modern era and was able to recover from a knee injury Yeah, he was like if you've watched Reggie Bush's highlights in college That's what Gales airs looked like right. He's he was like the tape pick where it's like the stats might not even come close to all these other guys

But if you watched the tape, you're like this guy was just something out of control. He was cool He was very cool. Also the more I think about Earl Campbell. I think living in Austin Probably is pushing me more towards wanting Earl on this list because the airport there the bar is called Earl Campbell's and so When I was waiting for my plane I would have a couple tall cold Earl Campbell's and have some good memories of that place I'm not taking anything away from Earl Campbell. He's a hell of a running back But if you're talking about like the longevity of Adrian Peterson LT Marshall Falk I think should count and Earl Campbell was fantastic

but it was really a three-year peak four-year peak and You know his body kind of betrayed him So I think that that's where I add the other three guys I just think it's it's kind of ridiculous to have somebody with 5,800 career rushing yards on the list of best running backs of all time And then one guy that was like a better linebacker than he was a running back. Yeah, the pre 1970s shit I mean, they're just doing it to be like no one's gonna argue with that because like how could we we don't know and Belichick says it like he Belichick probably has watched every single game of Steve Van Buren I was actually I actually thought that Mary and Motley was a guy that Belichick just invented to see if anyone was paying attention

because he was Mary Motley sounds like he's what he Wanted Rob Ninkovich to be like a great linebacker and a serviceable running back Yeah, and and Belichick definitely could sneak one on and be like yeah I watched I used to watch this tape on you know, my refrigerator with my dad and everyone be like, okay Sounds good coach. Yeah, he's a four-time AAFC champion. Okay. Yeah, sounds good. Sounds perfect. All right It's good to get mad about a list. I it's like all we have left I actually get excited to look at these lists and be like, all right. Where the fuck am I gonna get mad about? What are we gonna do next week? We do QB's

You want to dive right into QB's? I don't know. It's gonna be tough to like do like secondary and stuff. I don't really know how I mean I'm sure we gotta do that. We gotta do the top. I see what receivers Let's see wide receivers. All right. All right. We're gonna see verse. Okay. Yeah They also released their top 100 games and that's that's the thing that got me the most upset. Okay. We can get mad about that, too What was their number one game the ice bowl? All right, I don't even I forget it was disgusting Probably that Chargers that that overtime game in the playoffs right

I'm painting breaks like of the single season like regular season passing record Drew Brees Monday night game the the 15th one when he broke a record I'm not even kidding like there's like four of those in the top 20 Have you seen have you seen Sean Payton giving like fewer and fewer Fox as he gets older and older and goes on TV more Like he he's going on TV on like first take and breaking news and just saying yeah Drew Brees gonna retire after this year casually I think that he's just like when he when Sean Payton survives the coronavirus He is going to be giving so many fewer fucks than he even was before. He's just gonna go out there and be like

Taysom Hill you're gonna do onside kicks and recover them yourself to like he's just gonna go off the deep end He tweeted it like he's just started tweeting his playbook the other night. Yeah sick It was I I mean shout out Sean Payton. He's like in this with everyone else. He's like, what does it matter? We might never get this. We never made never gets sports back again. I'm just gonna give you guys all my playbook Right, he's gonna have the the same spray paint like the Roger Goodell clown logo at center field or Admit field. That's how that's how like old grandpa. I give no fuck Sean Payton is getting right now. Love it need more of it Alright, let's do hot seat cool throne hot seat cool thrones brought to you by our friends at Bud Light Seltzer Bud Light Seltzer reminds you that the cool throne until further notice is staying safe and staying at home

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But all the sports athletes are playing video games and I'm sure like all the Call of Duty servers are full like it's kind of a shit show So I'm sort of the nerds are heated and upset Yes, they're here first. Yeah, I was born in the darkness. You merely inherited it. We're on their block exactly Okay, good one and then my cool throne. This is kind of a cool throne hot in the streets This is a new the new new hot thing on tiktok all the kids are doing it It's called being like being shy. This is like this is what this is the new universal sign for being shy Like that fingers together Hank gets podcast. So she has to tell people what you're doing and you just put your fingers together Yeah, you point your two fingers together. Do you touch tips? Do you dock your index fingers? You do touch tips, dude?

I love it's like then it's the new like, you know, like when you're being shy But you have to podcast and and you just do this I feel like Hank's Hank's doing something and making us do this signal and we don't really know what it means No, no, it's it's I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I Don't know what this means and I'm gonna stop it means being shy I do love all the all the fraud introverts that have to like live with this right now You know all the people like I'm actually an introvert. I don't really want to go out It's like now they're stuck with this like yeah, let's see how introverted you are motherfucker. That's always that's always nice

I want to talk to one of those the introvert extrovert people Yeah, I'm gonna take you out back and make you smoke the whole pack of being introverts. Yeah, you like exactly PFC, what do you got my Hank explain to me what that is with the being shy touch I literally did Often you're doing something to us. It's no, it's it's it's Hank. I know Hank I can see your brain working right now We're gonna look like fools you're gonna put like you're gonna add in like a little dancing bit moji on my fingers and You're gonna make me look like a jackass saying no, I'm telling you get on tiktok You'll be viral as fuck just being like when you have to be shy, but you have to podcast

Okay, yeah, he's actually I am looking images for being shy and those two fingers touching are that okay My hot seat also says you're down to be pegged Okay, well, that's good. Yeah Hank That's you you took it too far You got too deep into Google All right, what do you got PFT my hot sees the rest of the world because USA Rugby is up for chapter 11 bankruptcy. So I don't know what that means But I think that it means that I can buy it that I can bail it out that they can offload themselves on to me

I don't know because all my bankruptcy knowledge comes from either wheel of fortune or just the office gift when Michael's screaming I declare bankruptcy. So I don't know what it means, but I feel like it means that I can purchase every single rugby Team and event in the United States and then it becomes mine Okay So what's your first plan of action? First plan of action Every team gets a Pro Bowl linebacker from the NFL. No, what's your first? I'm telling you, but the rules don't apply to them

Yeah, that's that's no, we're not we're not talking about what you're gonna do with Lee What's your first plan of action to actually get we signed Tim Tebow? No, no, how are you gonna? Yes, neon jerseys on every team Wait, wait, how am I how am I gonna get it? How are you going to acquire the league? I I just told you I don't know how bankruptcy works, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure it means like I can just bid $50,000 for the entire USA rugby and if no if everyone else forgets to bid on it, then it becomes mine, right? Then you probably shouldn't talk about it. Yeah, I'm gonna did 50. I'm gonna bid 51,000 Then I come in second place and by the rules of rugby I win. Yeah, I'm gonna buy it and then just disband it right away

So we don't be there about it anymore. I'll be there to collect the sweet sweet drippings from that fire I don't know. I'm like the guys from succession when they bought the fake deadspin, and I'm just gonna get it You're not gonna gut it. It's impossible. Yeah, I'm gonna gut it. You know, it's too gritty to be gutted I think that I could make a good USA rugby president I just don't know how much it's gonna cost and I don't know how to run a league But it'd be pretty cool to own an entire like Organization like that wouldn't yeah be cool to water and get a sports team He'd be cool to have sports back if we're talking about things that aren't realistic. That is realistic

How much you how much you think USA rugby cost? I don't know. I have no fucking clue what it would intense. I bet most people don't so Economy person to buy a million dollars. Okay. Hey, I'm gonna own USA rugby. That's all I'm saying My cool throne is bored NBA fans on reddit So if you think that Mike Greenberg comes up with some dumb rules and dumb theories You should check out NBA was it like NBA slash reddit slash in be I don't know what it is. Anyways Here's a great theory that somebody came out with just because they're bored and there's no basketball Could an owner theoretically marry a player in order to circumvent the salary cap

It's actually brilliant. Isn't it? Yes, that is brilliant. I don't see any holes in that. I don't either Michael Jordan could probably adopt his son or you know He could just have a son play if he was any good and just like write a more and more into the will every year Like adoption one is isn't the same as marriage. Yeah, why not? I Don't know. I just feel it that way. Well, it's someone who's not adopted. Can you adopt like a grown adult? Yeah, exactly. You can't I think you can It's not a dependent Tax, I don't know. Look at that. Look at Hank tax Hank. I don't know how that works. That's pretty good

Yeah, I think I think the hot seat cool throne is we have to heat. I don't know how any of this stuff works for you I don't listen there. That's that's my other cool throne is just saying in this economy because I've been saying yes I'm addicted to it. We're in a recession is back. That's big time back. You can say that for everything Does anything anyone says in this economy? Yeah, like no, come on. No, no way. We're in a recession, dude All right, so I I think marrying Are there any are there any female owners? I mean, I guess you could marry bus genie bus Yeah, genie bus could she probably did marry LeBron Maybe she should adopt brawny James jr. Before he turns 18. They're now there's what you do. Yeah

I mean, I don't see a problem with that. I think that you can Like okay, so what if brawny becomes a great player and then LeBron just says I will add you into the will More and more every single year if you agree to sign with the Lakers. That's what happened. I think yeah That can definitely happen that that could act like LeBron give will this oh shit. I didn't want to say this out loud. Oh, no say it go off game It's that good of an idea by the way fuck LeBron for pretending that he brought the fucking Jordan dock out like everyone Who's coming everyone knew was coming literally. I'm happy. It's here, but I'm everyone who's coming Some team needs to give LeBron equity and then LeBron can do what we're saying and just

Pay LeBronnie less and it's LeBron son like obviously brawny is taking care of shit Well, I mean LeBron could already do that with his son and just right But if you need the best I can progressively write him into the wheel He could own a team that would actually be the most likely is LeBron owns a team and then just Signs his son for nothing and then LeBron junior kills his dad to get all the money. Yeah, it's kind of Shakespearean Mm-hmm. I got him Ian. He can't go to he can't play in the games because he's in jail No, oh, yeah gets away with it though. Oh, yeah, I've been watching that and but LeBron's dead I

Could get you to say that oh What about LeVar ball since he's worth a billion dollars? He could probably write all his sons into the world and have so much more money left over. Yeah, that's true Billion dollar big baller brand. All right. My hot seats is Podcasts so podcast numbers are down. I read an article today So it's just a reminder to everyone to subscribe unsubscribe rate of five star We're gonna do roasts on Friday. Let's do roasts on Friday. So leave a five star review and roast us But yes podcast turns out no one's commuting which is a good thing

But that's when people listen to the podcast And running in the gym and pretty much anywhere where they're not in their house, right? I'm starting to listen to more podcasts as I fall asleep even non sleep related podcast play each part of my take twice Once when you normally listen and then a second time as you're falling asleep. Yes. Yes So podcasts are getting hurt. We're actually fine. We actually had a meeting about it But podcasts I think the podcast bubble is coming for everyone. So we're just planning ahead here and Telling everyone. Hey, maybe do your part and make sure you tell everyone to subscribe to part of my take over and over and over Tell all your social distancing friends to subscribe to part of my take over and over

All right, then my cool throne is anyone who wasn't A part of my take didn't exist, but so anyone who wasn't a stoolie in 2015 Because tomorrow night or tonight they're replaying the final four and national championship game from 2015 on CBS Sports I've never watched the game on TV. I was at the game Hank was right next to me I'm going to live tweet Kentucky versus Wisconsin and then I'm going to Periscope, Kentucky Wisconsin versus Duke and I've never watched the game. So anyone who missed out on laughing at my dead corpse. We're going to do it all over again It's going to be fucking great little fun. I remembered earlier big cat

You basically shamed me out of wearing a Duke. Yes to that game. Yes. Yes. I did you're like Like are you here for work? Are you here for for Duke? I was like well Both but and then I got in my head and I had to wear like a normal shirt and afterwards. I was like wait like I'll find out the rundown after I mean like it that game meant everything to every like that game was everything I'll never get back to that point. You'll be back to that point a million times over That still stands true. So there's also a picture out there. Someone has it. I as I was walking out I I gave the finger to the Duke's like student section like full-on two birds out of just pure not funny pure anger I don't know if anyone has that picture but tweeted at me. I was so so mad and

Yeah, it was a terrible night. So we're gonna relive it tomorrow night So anyone who wasn't able to enjoy that the first to go around you get a game was great though Kentucky game was I Hank a test. I I didn't leave the bar after Kentucky game for two days straight I just was drunk for two days straight and I because I was like I'll never be back after a moment I'd never be back in that moment I think I speak for everybody out there that's listening that says that you should do soggy sorrows after the I mean I'll probably start crying. Yeah, I'll always start crying. I agree. It will probably

And get a cat and get a cat and get a cat All right, that is so that's tomorrow night. So tune in. It's gonna suck I I'm gonna get so mad about the refs Hank cuz you have you ever rewatched it? No, no, yeah, I'm gonna get really mad. I'm gonna make the fucking I'm gonna come out of that like Pepe Sylvia and just be like just a huge corkboard of all the fucking calls But you know, they're gonna have it's gonna be one of those things where they have obviously selectively like edit it So they're gonna like it's gonna be controversial controversial calling and it'll just skip to the next play like real quick Yeah, coach K probably had final cut on this on this broadcast for sure. Yeah, the Kentucky game was awesome

Yes, it's I still can't believe Wisconsin won that game 38-1 and and Kentucky fans are still mad about it I was I was on a bachelor party that weekend in Key West and I remember watching that game in the bar and that Monday championship game when I came back was one of the worst hangovers of my life. So I don't even remember watching the game I was stonk old sober. I watched the entire thing, but my brain has just wiped clean that slate too So I'll watch it. I'll watch it for the first time Just enjoy you enjoying it. I I also remember I drove back that next day on that Tuesday morning back to Chicago with one Of my best friends and we it's like a three-hour drive and we said not a single word to each other for on a three-hour drive Not one single word and it was just like a misery. All right

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You are one of our first big guests that helped us break through it is Adam Morrison Calling us from his apocalypse bunker Adam, how are you doing? First of all, like we were talking we were texting a week ago and Obviously with diabetes, that's a that's an underlying health condition. So you're taking obviously this very seriously But how how is it out there being you know on lockdown and seeing everything that's going down. It's all right. I mean I self quarantine I was in Vegas You know the WCC tournament call in those games, so I I haven't left the house pretty much Since I got back and then you know the governor of the state did the mandatory lockdown. I think it was three days ago. So

You know, it's kind of weird. I think everybody's going through their own little deal, but yeah You know type one diabetes has a little bit scary for me Just trying to be out in public. So I've been avoiding it at all costs, but Yeah, just like everybody else man, just kind of in shock of just how much this is affected everyday life Do you prefer to be introduced as two-time NBA champion Adam Morrison? Did we drop the ball on that one? No, not at all. I Handed out water and towels and stuff during that time. So I could let that one slide, but no, no, thanks I think I think recurring guests old-time friend and guy who helped us put us on the map is also the creator of part of my take

Yeah, pretty much. I I'll take the I'll take that one But you guys have also, you know, done all the work, but yeah, I appreciate it But yeah, the two-time NBA champion one, you know, I I appreciate it, but also another narcissist or anything like that. So just Adams fine All right, so let's do a little quick history lesson for maybe some newer AWLs because this was literally like the second or third month We had Kyle Wilcher on the show right before Gonzaga played in the tournament and he just happened to drop the fact that maybe not be is a fact that Adam Morrison has an apocalypse bunker in his house and

You came on after we cleared it up, but Now would be a pretty cool time to have an apocalypse bunker. Wouldn't you say yeah? Yeah, it's or less a Regulated gun room by the state. I have to have everything locked up. So yeah, but it's not it's not an underground bunker or anything But according to a law, I have to have everything locked properly. So I do how long could you survive in that room? If like hypothetically you accidentally got locked in there Not very long. I don't have like Sanitation or you know, I didn't panic by toilet paper and all that stuff like everybody did

Like I said, it's just uh, you know, it's just a room that's got a locked door on it And then I get you know done safe, but I keep you know stuff that I have to do It's by the law and stuff. So But yeah, it it would make sense now to kind of have one Yes, big time in retrospect. Yeah, so obviously there are more important things going on more There's there's a lot of things that are be taken away from people right now Their livelihoods there, you know, their jobs their social lives all that stuff But I have to also imagine that there's like a little part of you that is extremely disappointed

That it sounds like raging against the machine's tour might be postponed for a long time I was actually I had tickets to the Portland show and I got general admission one. So yeah, I'm pretty disappointed But I've seen him twice I saw my Coachella was seven and I saw him at the LA rising and I had a Relationship with Tom Marillo for a while and I got to meet him a couple of times to get him like your tickets And I've met Zach Diller real good that I was so I'm pretty fortunate. But yeah, it sucks Because is there a band that you can't go see at the casino, you know when they're 65

So it's kind of true to the point. Yeah That you got to see him now when there's still energy behind it So, uh, yeah, that's that's one of the minor things obviously like you mentioned but They're they're unbelievable live if you've never seen them. All right, so the other minor thing We got to talk a little Gonzaga hoops. I Looking at I mean the NCAA field was so wide open this year and Gonzaga definitely was one of those teams that they were gonna get a One-seed it felt like this was gonna be a year where they're gonna make a deep run What being around the team and seeing that like do you think that this this team had the makeup to make that deep run and

How disappointing was it like talking to all the guys afterwards? Well, I think You know, obviously I call the game So yeah, I've seen them from the start of the season on this to the end. I think they had You know the lineup To the least get past the first weekend for sure and and and we were Slotted probably to be in Spokane as well as one of the sites which is crazy We were gonna be a number one seed and then being Spokane But I think all honestly they had

You know a really good chance to make a file for You know, you know, how does events return but those the matchups the draws matter we lack depth but we also had You know a lot of experience in the backcourt. We had Pretty balanced scoring. We're the I think we're number one in the team and team scoring in points per game or the scoring margin So we had all the talent but again, it's literally kind of a coin flip once you get past the first weekend But I definitely think they could have at least been a follow-up or team If everything went right and then you never know what can happen from them, but it's

It feels so ancillary talking about hoops now because it's just like what if and now like you said everybody's Just worried about what the fuck's gonna happen next and it's just literally day-to-day So yeah, I haven't really haven't put much thought into it to be honest because we landed from the LCC tournament and they had no fans there But he was pissed and spoke and and then literally the next day. It was like fucking tournament. It's just it's been it's been crazy I'm at that front. Obviously. I don't know man. This is this shit's bananas So did you guys actually play in any games in that tournament before they cancel it? because they play yeah, we won the tournament and I

Was a little bit nervous going to it. I had a birdie in my ear telling me this corona shit's gonna get worse So I was a little bit Scared to get on a plane then, you know, so I went down there And it was the first time I never gambled. I didn't do anything. I went to my room. I barely went out but yeah, it was Had just was an eerie feeling because right when the tournament ended is when you know the big 10 cancel bears ACC canceled bears so then you're sitting there like fuck This is real and I was just an arena every night for you know, two nights in a row

I went to the UFC fight actually too and I was like fuck I was just an arena with you know, 20,000 people that could have it and it's it's been crazy Just sort of thinking of that you know, so Yeah, a lot of people were nervous down there before it even that was announced just talking to the other staff We were doing the elbow bumps and the finger points and all that shit like even in the media room I didn't want to touch it. It's just it's been crazy Right sense, obviously

So when you were calling those games could was it weird knowing that like the players in the court could probably hear what you were saying? Because there were no, you know, obviously no crowd noise or anything like that. Oh, no, we had fans No, there was fans in the in the arena. Oh, that was the last Early Yeah, the WCC was probably the last one that completed. Yes And then everybody did the no fans and then just right after that, you know I think what they play only one game of the big 10 tournament then cancel it or whatever. So I don't know It's it's been really weird

Sports wise, I mean what the fuck you guys you can talk about Apocalypse bunkers. Yeah. Yeah, we just get weird with it. We just we our brains go to dangerous places We are doing like kind of a memory lane to having some of our old-time occurring guests on because it's like this is back To when we do Skype and all that stuff and it's it's weird. Yeah, it is a weird weird time I had one last question. I don't know if I've asked you this, but do you still not obviously not right now? But do you still play pick-up hoops? When the world is normal, I don't I'm shit. I coach my daughter's basketball team. I obviously call games I get my cup filled to them, but I you know what I'm scared of is getting like an Achilles chair or something

I know I was Like you pussy or something like that, but I'd like I pour an ACL in the NBA and Me imagining rehabbing for no reason after that would just be the worst thing ever. So I don't just shit The last time I played was I played back to the basket one-on-one with Jonathan Williams who played in the league for a little bit. I gun-tigged another kid and I drew up Walking to my car in the parking lot afterwards. We didn't even do it was back to the basket I mean, I I thought I'm softest tissue paper right now. So I couldn't go up and down It would be sick though if you just showed up to a YMCA wearing like yeah

I don't like a very loose-fitting Heather gray Russell athletic t-shirt and lights some really short blue athletic shorts and new balances I just pretended like you didn't know what you're doing, but you were just wet and three. Yeah, three point line to three point line Yeah, I could do I could still shoot jumpers. I know that but like I said my wind is fucking awful And like my hamstrings hurt fucking walking up the stairs. So I don't even know what I could do Right now, but yeah, no loops for me man. No up and down. I need that I just always think about like retired athletes like how awesome would be to just go and dominate people You just strap on some wreck specs. You might not even need the wreck specs. It's just kind of completes the look

Yeah, John Stockton has he lives in town and he has a Sunday league. It's pretty good And really gives me every time I see him because he still plays and he's still good obviously, but I'm always like John No, thanks, man, but he's always called me a pussy and You know in a nice way, but yeah, he still plays those guys that played in Europe and stuff to play in it So I could if I wanted to that's the only way I would do is play with guys that played before I love that I love that John Stockton is getting mad at people for not showing up to his game because he just wants to feed you assists Yeah, he's a guy new pussy show up to a game so I can I can hand you the rock and get you 18 points He he used to come to our Gonzaga practices when I was a freshman and he was I think it was about five or six years

Up the week he'd ride a 10 speed He'd have his shoes on with the socks and short shorts and John never stretched I don't think anybody would like never didn't believe in it and He would warm up. He'd go up and down maybe twice with a basketball and then you gotta let's go and just bust everybody's ass It was unbelievable. Oh my god. I'm very tired. That's incredible Incredibles is incredible. He he had this doctor in Utah I visited one time after him and he did like this weird chiropractor shit and like held pills in your hand and did like squats and stuff and

There's like a wall for some I don't know what it was but it worked for John But like he never stretched never doing that shit. I think he played 16 years without missing a game So I've asked her science, I guess John Stockton never stretched. Um, I man will take care of yourself and hopefully we see you sooner than later because that would mean sports Are back and yeah, we'll talk soon Yeah, guys, you two stay safe man. Be safe That interview that Morrison was brought to you by CBD MD or good friends at CBD MD are helping us out Because the question on many people's minds is still what the hell am I gonna do without sports?

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We have a lot of questions. Obviously, we're trying to figure out Where to go with coronavirus taking away sports and what stories to cover and we thought you'd be great to have on because Just last week the Olympics got postponed for a year. So let's start there Let's start with the decision-making process behind that. What was that? The last like few weeks before you officially suspended it like and what were the different alternatives? That the IOC was discussing on how they could maybe get the games to be played this year Well, the the alternatives were to carry on with the July 24th start if it looked like the The virus was being sufficiently contained and that the curve was you know rounding out

That clearly wasn't happening. So your other two alternatives are Cancellation which is something that the IOC is entitled to do if it's concerned about the safety of Participants and I mean up to now it's always been because of wars. We've never had this particular Threat, you know, we had it before Rio the Zika virus is going to end life as we knew it But it was largely a manufactured crisis and never never happened. But this this is a of a different order and then the the other part of it if you can make it happen is Is to postpone and and that's the sort of the middle ground that we we were looking at

It took a while to get there because well, you can you can unilaterally cancel if you're the IOC You can't unilaterally postpone you need to get your Your partners the organizing committee and then the Japanese government that to come to the same conclusion which they did and then when we checked with the World Health Organization, they said look this curve is is going up. It's not coming down So we said, all right. It doesn't look like a july 24 start will work

Will a postponement work? Yes, that would work Are the Japanese willing to do it? Yes, it turned out that they were And then you have to pick a date so you can stick a pin On a start date and then everybody rejigs the the many many Conclusions and deadlines and opportunities and obligations To meet the new date and that's where we are now Down to did it rub you the wrong way at all going through the process

It seemed like the international Olympic committee Was putting out signals saying okay, we very clearly need to postpone we need to postpone And the host committee they seem to drag their feet on it a little bit, especially towards the end there Did you have to put any pressure on them to to help them reach that same conclusion? Not so much pressure is saying Look, we're delighted that you seem to have a reasonable handle on things in japan But if you look around the world

The risk is if you persist with a july 24 2020 date You throw this big party and nobody can come to it Because they can't travel and then they haven't had a chance to practice and so on And that would be that would be a worse alternative for you than a postponement and a cancellation just puts Everything In the in the trash bin because nothing happens and so from the japanese they've got all that investment on which there's no return And as far as the olympic athletes, you're concerned the whole generation of olympic athletes

Get thrown in the the dust pile too so postponement was the right answer So what i'm curious about is when i don't really understand or i don't follow how all the teams get made Uh in the olympic process But were there any teams that were already decided and then what happens to the athletes that potentially made the team made these olympics Do they automatically make the next ones or is it just country to country? They have to decide their own Uh, you know decision who's on the team who's going to be competing in the 2020 now 2021 olympics Yeah, it depends to some degree on the sport In in some sports you you qualify by team

The united states is entitled to enter a team canada's entitled to enter a team What the mix of the of the players on the team it can be determined You know right up until games time practically In other sports where you you qualify on the basis of time or or finish in the world championships or whatever the particular sport decides It looks like the international sports federations have said look if you qualified already On that basis you retain your qualification And if you haven't then you go into the whatever the the

qualification process will be for the for a 2021 event and it's it's it's kind of an interesting call on the part of some of the sports federations because normally it's it's the best athletes in every sport that get on to the the team like in the united states if you win the trials you're in

Here, you know, it's hard to stay at the top. So you might have been king of the mountain in 2020 and by the time you get to 2021 there's some young stud that's making you look like you know yesterday's newspaper and so there'll be some Some friction in there in some sports, but but that's generally it's a sport by sport determination

I imagine that you have to do with a lot of friction from from various bodies whether that's uh, you know the host committees or the different countries out there that you're dealing with Was this decision did you get any blowback from it? No, I think everybody when when the decision was made was relieved. I mean, I think everybody was being compelled to the conclusion that July 2020 Wasn't going to work and then you know what you do you have your fingers crossed saying that Hope these old guys on the ioc don't cancel the games or something like that

And so the fact that it was a postponed and b that we settled on a date pretty quickly so that everybody can Match their training schedules and the peaking and all that sort of stuff With what they have now 16 months notice I think everyone's Satisfied that that was the right decision Uh, so i'm also curious in your history Against the anti-doping and you have been at the forefront like I said at the start you were the first president of

The anti-doping agency and you've had a lot of run-ins with the olympic sports the ioc testing First question is Were you not a fan of 90s late 90s early 2000s baseball? Were you not a fan of no because that seems like that's a tough time Like I get what you're saying that we should have anti-doping but that was pretty awesome with all the home runs Oh, yeah, no, there's no no question about it when you you got Guys, you know 36 year old year old guys hitting balls They're still rising as they leave the property

Something it's going on and it's it's not mom's oatmeal porridge. And so I know I was a I was on baseball's case for a long time and To their credit they've eventually changed things. It's harder. It's harder in the professional leagues because The rules are really set in accordance with the collective bargaining agreements Rather than the international standards that apply across All countries in the world. So it's harder to bring about a change I think our breakthrough there was to say to the the players association folks Listen, why why is it that you're spending all your time and energy defending guys? You know are doping

And you know with salary caps and things like that They're getting paid handsomely at the expense of Players say in the infield or something like that that are As good as or better and are not all dope that So why why have you got your priorities? Right or not? And I think that penny eventually dropped and they became much more amenable to

a more More robust program than they ever had before and my second question would be How much of a issue is steroids in today's? Olympics and today's professional sports Do you think that we're at a time where it's better than it's ever been or is it still something That you see is a huge problem across the board still still a huge problem The progress we've made is is that we're much more able to detect The use of steroids than in the sort of late 80s and early 90s and so forth

So if you're on a steroid and you get tested you you'll get caught the big problem is To be able to find the athletes every day And figure out you have to sort of reverse engineer this you're going to be The weightlifting gold medalist in in the olympics What are you likely to be taking some kind of a steroid or cocktail of the following steroids? When are you likely to be doing it? And then we got to be able to find you during that window because if you get through the window

Um the steroids are out of your system In the sense of being detectable, but you've got the benefit of a steroid program which can last you for maybe five years So it's it's kind of a cat and mouse exercise Yeah, and I saw um Documentary and I followed your career a little bit here And you were not afraid to insert yourself into like the russian body their governing bodies And kind of take them head on

Was there ever any point where you were like a little bit afraid like maybe I should you know back off a little bit here? No, I mean once you've jumped down the The hole you got to go right to the end of it. I'm not sure I would be It'd be a big russian tourist these days But uh, I think I could probably get a an entrance visa, but perhaps not an exit visa From there, but no you just do you do what you have to do and The chips will fall where they may I mean basically if I get a bad cold, it'll get blamed on russia. So

Yeah, where's your uh Feud with lance armstrong now because I know you had a pretty public one with with lance back in the day Even though you never mentioned his name. I read that you didn't ever actually name him and he just assumed You were talking about him. Where's that stand today? Has he ever reached out or Said like hey, maybe I was wrong. Maybe I did to all those drugs or is it still a simmering feud? Well, he he is acknowledged that throughout his professional career. He was he was Doing this and in those days, you know, we're talking 96 or something like that to 2000 and change If you won the tour de France, you pretty well had to be on steroids. He went at seven times in a row

Uh, you know, hello and that's what eventually we tracked them down and I must say the the us anti doping agency did a good job in In not getting run off As as the criminal authorities did they they've preferred not to have charges Against them for that, but they said well, that's fine You may not be charged criminally, but as far as we're concerned, we think you were doping

We're going to assert a doping case and eventually plans blinked and Walked away from the arbitration proceedings and so he got this life ban in some sports and significant ban for Other sports as well, right right now Do you have anyone that works for you who is like a almost like a catch me if you can situation where you know to

To catch a doper you have to think like a doper So you go out and you you recruit somebody that has done something in the past to be on the good guy's side Yeah, I was when I was president of water. There was a guy called victor conte who was with the falco. You remember that Very bonds designer steroids and and I thought Unfortunately, it was near the end of my term. I thought here's a guy who doesn't know what's going on And if you can build a relationship of trust with him Uh, he can probably point you in the right direction And and even identify

The bad coaches and what's being taken? When is it being taken? Where is it coming from? Who are the suppliers all that sort of stuff? But my successor Thought of him just as a crook and and not worth talking to You got to use what sources you can and and you know whistleblowers and informants are are frankly a better source of Information than trying to be lucky enough to catch somebody Being into a bottle on the right day What's your more of a light question? What's your favorite olympic sport that maybe we don't I mean you obviously were a swimmer

But what's your favorite olympic sport summer and winter that uh, you always are looking forward to? Well, it was interesting. I many years ago was the Assistant chief of our the canadian delegation in munich And in those days my job was to go and watch canadians in in the preliminaries of uh events because we didn't get too many finals But um when I came back from munich the next games were in montreal and all my friends were saying, you know What what ticket should we get? You know, should we get swimming? Should we get gymnastics? You know things like that? I said volleyball and they're saying

volleyball I said, trust me Volleyball in the olympics is not like what you thought you were playing in school and and I think probably In montreal the most exciting finals in the entire games were the volleyball ones, but but you had common each and you had You know the spinks brothers and you had all kinds of fantastic other athletes, but the volleyball is Is is really pretty special In the uh winter olympics

winter olympics, um I kind of like the long track speed skating The short track is fun, but it's kind of like roller derby on ice but the speed and the grace and so on of The long track speed skaters is really pretty special. Did you have anything to do with adding rugby to the olympics? um No, not in the sense of proposing it or anything. I have that but but having rugby sevens

I thought was a great addition to the program And it's one of the advantages of it is, you know, it's got all of the elements of rugby the speed and so on But you can schedule matches 30 minutes apart And and it means that the players can play a tournament In the 16 or 17 days of the olympic, uh window, whereas if you had the the 15s with the great horses You know, they can only play once a week or whatever it is So I I think it's been a great addition. It's been it's been great for both the men and women Do you think just looking at us and spending the last 15 minutes with us

Would you say that we are uh borderline professional handballers because there's been a lot of uh debate We had j cutler on uh former bears quarterback and he says that he could be a professional handballer And we got the handball community very upset. Do you think we could just looking at like us? You know knowing that we're americans. We probably played t-ball. We know how to throw a ball We could probably compete in the 2021 japanese olympics Uh in handball. Well, you know, I When again when I came back from uh, munich in montreal as the host was allowed to enter a canadian team in every sport and so I said Ignorantly I said, you know, we're all pretty good at throwing in a I played squash and all that sort of stuff

So we could we should get together and become the canadian handball team I think it helps to throw. I mean, it's an advantage you get in in north america because we throw rather than kickballs But it's a tough tough game And uh, if you think you can just uh, you know, put down your spikes and then step up there and score goals and team handball Think again. Okay. I don't know. I still feel like we could do it But again, that's probably you know, you were in that same position as we are right now And you learned your hard lesson. We have not learned a hard lesson yet Going back to the uh, the olympics that were supposed to take place this summer

What was the straw that really blew out the camels back where the host committee said, okay? We're looking at the data Uh, we have to postpone. I I think it was the the combination of of seeing the the statistics around the world not just in in japan Where where that curve was not going down. It was level for a while or or just You know incrementally rising but in the last four or five days before

Uh, we made the decision it had turned up and and significantly up. So You know, this this isn't going to be finished by in chile. It's probably not going to be finished by the end of the year You know the the clock is running and we should we should make a decision in the interest of everybody the japanese spectators broadcasters athletes everybody involved Make it as fast as possible and then stick another pin in the paper and say all right here here reset to this We appreciate you joining us. I have one last question I think it's the i'm sure you've like been on twitter and you've seen every every time you get in the news Have you thought about going by the name richard?

Do you get a laugh about that because people twitter has changed? I would imagine 30 years ago is a little different now. It's uh You know Whenever you make a decision you go viral and i'm sure you've taken a peek and been like oh what's going on here And it's a lot of people just getting cheap jokes off. Oh, yeah, no, right Eventually some of these guys will get past their 14 year old giggles and uh move on Hope so, but I don't I don't I don't go on twitter for that For that reason somebody told me I was a week or so ago that I was trending I said but me what are you talking about and it's it's the old dick pound thing. Yeah

Yeah, it's it's every time. Yeah, every time you you have any kind of I feel like you've been in the news a couple times in the last few years and every time it happens You trend and I always wonder like Growing up like growing up. Were you ever like i'm just gonna go by richard? Well, I did until I got to university and you know when you get to university and get Sort of higher up in sports you tend to get it. You know, you go by You're not robert your bob and you know richard became dick and I mean it never the the chucks the position never occurred to me but

Somebody there with with with a big sweat and 14 years old if you did Yeah, right a lot of people just never get past that station. It's sad. I feel like if you Grew up in america. It probably would have it probably would have I think can canadians Maybe you're a little too nice where they didn't connect it and uh and and like go after you when you were a kid I will anyway. I don't regard that as my problem. It's true. Yeah, that's good. That's a good it's a good perspective to have I would almost say that it might help you out in in your professional job because you are the perfect spokesperson Because if you ever want to get a message out you just have to release your message And then let the rest of the world as a bunch of juvenile 14 year olds

They kind of will write up that story to make sure to include your name in it and your message gets out there more than it Would have before so it's like almost a bonus for you And smarter than I thought Yeah, bad news doesn't seem so bad when it comes from dick pound like that's actually a fact You because everyone just goes to the name and they don't go to the bad news. So you got a life hack there Oh, well, you never know how it's gonna work out Yeah, well, we appreciate you joining us. We appreciate oh one last question. You are uh, you did work as a tax Attorney, right? Yeah, that's my job. Yeah, okay. So our producer producer just just doesn't do his taxes. Is that wrong?

That's her that's sort of broke up Yeah That's unfortunate. I don't know if that's the same in Canada, but I feel like you should do your taxes Yeah, indeed. Well, it's nice. It's nice to have the problem. When is uh, tax day in Canada? Uh, normally it's april 30th Oh, okay. Okay. Does it push back this year? You guys you guys are the 15th. Yeah, we're well if you choose to file It's the 15th. Yes. Hey Doesn't always follow through

Yes, well, we thank you so much. We appreciate you're ready to break up again Yeah, we appreciate you joining us and uh, we're looking forward to the olympics in 2021 Super. Well, thanks for having me on. It's been fun. All right. Thank you. Thank you That interview with dick pound is brought to you by our good friends at zipper cruder So right now we can't be overwhelmed. We have to work. We have to work to keep our loved ones safe We have to work to protect our communities. We have to stay strong. We have to work to stay connected to stay focused We have to work to inspire to innovate to build new solutions But for all of this to work

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During this coronavirus outbreak remember to remain at least 10 feet away from others if you're wondering how far that is picture Never mind Never mind Picture a bear's wide receiver and then imagine where Trisky actually threw the past I was gonna say 10 feet picture a packers wide receiver and then imagine where chris kanthi is shut up. Shut up, everyone We have thoughts and prayers joe buck everyone keeps Tweeting joe buck their porn to announce we have joe buck on the show on friday. Actually an awesome interview

We won't say any more than that, but an awesome interview. Maybe with someone else as well But how did joe buck not see this coming? Not no intended Not he didn't he did not see anything coming because he closes out before he announces them I actually think that joe buck announcing porn would be hilarious All I got to say is like this is the most disgusting thing i've ever seen Just play the randy moss clip over top of it and boom announced Duh, yeah, I mean joe buck announcing porn would be

We'd get us one step closer to sports being back in 2022 It'd be a real shame if someone like went through a bunch of old joe buck games and then compiled like cut different parts of it To make it sound like porn. Yeah Damn that sounds like No one has enough time for that hank right because we're all busy going to work every day. Oh wait Oh Someone has a lot of time for that Do the same interesting real time real real same. Um, all right, we have uh, what was the other oh

The way to stay way to stay young nfl the nfl Confirmed today that wild card weekend will have six games if there is one Uh, which will be unbelievable But the extra one of the extra games is being picked up by cbs But also being broadcast on nicolodian So that it can reach a younger crowd I love it. I love it. And who's announcing that game? I don't know. Uh, Steve uh, Steve from blues clues

Jack Collinsworth bronch has to be on that broad bronch. I think bronch will absolutely be on the broadcast. Yeah Maybe bronch and then just mic up russa wilson Oh, yeah, uh our philip rivers No, but russa wilson. I feel like didn't he I think he's like back to back to back You know teen choice award winner. So I feel like he's hosted the show before too. Yes So he would be perfect. He could get slimed in between quarters That's gonna why are they why are they doing that to reach? Like six year olds that don't want to watch football with their dads

Well, I was gonna say it's just gonna piss off a bunch of dads who are like, I don't want to watch this on nicolodian I mean, it would be cool. Here's the thing What they're gonna do is probably just put like a broadcast on nicolodian Which makes no sense if they were going to do it. It was like a fun way The score bug would be different Like it would be gronk and and amanda pines and russell Like it'd be it'd be they would think totally outside of the box And make it like really fun and like ooze coming out of the corner of the tv

But they're not they're not going to they're just putting it on another station to boost the ratings Instead of the gatorade tub It's just slime and the coach gets dunked in it after they win the game The ref's flags are like at the bottom of a kiddie pool Filled with the green goop that they have to dig through to find But what they're really doing is they're putting on nicolodian so that they can capture the audience of everyone who Forgot to turn off their tv for whatever shows on nicolodian right now I'm at at an eddy hokulee. That'd be cool. That would be cool

Um, all right. Should we do mouth flush more? Let's do mouth flush more to finish it off Cartoon network. I couldn't name one. I'm sure I'm gonna get in that game Soon the nicolodian game. So I'll be back in it soon. Um mouth flush more of candy Should we do it on the show? pfc you start okay, um

My first one is no brainer circus peanuts They suck universally regarded as the most trash candy to ever be invented. I don't even know why they're invented I think they're just invented So that like dads can have candy that they know that their kids won't eat But the dads don't want to eat either But it's still it's something that you know that your kids won't steal from you Uh, yeah, that one is just it's really makes no sense that that exists really really stupid candy. All right, my First pick, uh, good and plenty just another trash ass candy. I don't get picked. I don't know why that exists and

It just every time I've I feel like good and plenty is one of those candies you have like once every five years And you're like, oh, yeah, that's that's why it sucks. I'll never have that again I mean even right in the name. It says it's not great It's good and there's like I guess there's a lot of it. There's a shit. So We got a lot of stuff. It's it's literally inspired confidence. Yeah, it is the quantity over quality candy And it's jason witton of candies. It's it's the frank gore of candies and your larry Fitzgerald of candy You don't mean that you don't mean that about frank gore. Yeah, I do. I mean it. Uh, Hank your right gore would be circus peanuts if you know what I'm saying Neko enough. We didn't have enough dick jokes in this podcast

My first one neck away first Yeah, like a smarties without the taste. Mm-hmm And rollos Oh, I like rollos. Rollos are trash. You take a bite of rollos I feel like every time I take a bite of rollos my tooth is coming out with it But here's why I like rollos in defense of rollos. No No, hold on. Let me just tell you I like to to Have fake portion control and rollos comes in the little

Fucking things so you can basically be like, oh, I only had five of them. I'm good Now they're like caramel chocolate mentos, right? They're like they're like Reese's cups, but with no peanut butter just caramel Yeah, and then they come in the little sleeve like the pen roll looking like pop. Yeah, I agree with big cat Those aren't bad. Yeah, they are they are not that bad. Well, it's a good thing. It's not big cats list because it's my list Okay, okay. Um, all right, uh, you know what's trash pixie sticks those are trash. It's just Disagree. Yeah, it's your sugar. It's not candy. It's your back in the day big cat. I used to uh, I know you did Hank

You had a hd. I would rob my cvs. So I'd get like 10 packs of pixie sticks wait actually rob Yeah, it's No, like I like there's a cvs down the street for me. That was like this is like the town g rated Yeah, I was like before I got into like drugs and alcohol like I just got off by like stealing candy for my cvs uh I would take like 10 packs of it empty out of mountain mountain dew bottle Which I would have drank and then fill it to the top with pixie sticks Okay, and then just I have a giant bottle of pixie sticks. I just think I put the spike into hank at a young age

The laziest candy ever. They're not candy. It's your sugar. It's not candy. Uh, it's delicious I like pixie sticks. You can you can snort them. You can lick them. You can pour them into other drinks and beverages It's great. It's not candy. All right. What's your next two? Uh, my neck. I'm going to go with black licorice. Okay and malt balls I don't hate malt. Are you talking about like, uh Like whoppers whoppers whoppers are good. I don't like I don't like to put whoppers on there You can't put malt balls because malt does sound like an old person candy whoppers

No, no, no, no malt. No because whoppers has malt in it, but it's not a malt ball person No, those are what balls is my choice But that's not even a candy like no one knows where you can get that candy You gotta be able to get the candy. Yeah, you can talk about whoppers If you want to get in malt balls, you just go to your local convenience store the bulk section and it's like 90% malt balls That's I mean, I think you got to put whoppers on there My dad was a big malt ball guy whoppers Whoppers I didn't even get brand-name malt balls. All right, so here's uh kind of in the same cousin of

of whoppers Uh is milk duds. I fucking hate milk duds You never eat a milk that didn't get stuck in your teeth for fucking hours The most annoying candy to eat and it's one of those It's one of those ones that's like it's like a dog like you're like, oh, this is good and then you get trapped It's like a fucking trap every time Rolos what you just said describes how I feel about Rolos to a T Okay, I like milk duds

But I think I only really enjoy him because I had braces for a long time And that's one thing that you're definitely not allowed to eat and that you can't eat if you have braces So when you get them off, it's like, yeah, I'm free. I can eat all the milk duds that I want Braces or no braces they get stuck in everyone's teeth no matter what and they're the fucking worst You eat a milk. You're eating it for the next week Hank Now and later Okay, I see that wait. Is that like those hardest block? Yeah, there's like starburst, right? Like worse starburst

They're like stale and stale always. Yeah, they crack Like you can't they're just not It's not good and uh my last one raisinettes Oh Like raisinettes, I like raisinettes too. Yes. It because it makes you feel like you're actually healthy snacking Yep, great movie snack. I would say raisinettes and probably uh junior mince. Maybe it's delicious. Yeah, great things Great things to eat during a movie. All right. My last one would be smarties Unless you can actually think they make you smart

But that's another one where it's like they don't put smarties smarties is the candy that they had before the depression Like they were like, hey pixie sticks circular pixie sticks. Yeah, it was before candy innovation. They're like, hey here Have some candy. It's just this three other colors that you just fucking give them like kids before the dust bowl Like during the dust bowl. We're like, hey, what do you got left? I got a smarty here. Here we go A little sugar left I think those were just like what you found at the bottom of a bag of industrial sized sugar like a big bag Is that like like coagulated together and they're like, yeah, this is candy, but it's not it's not can Okay, what's your last pick pft? Uh my last pick

I Carefree gum Carefree gum is the worst kind of gum that's ever is that it's not even candy. That's gum like We're not counting gum Gum is not candy. I don't think it's gum candy on this gum We could do a much better gum if we wanted. Yeah, we could do a mouth flush more of gum. We should have a separate thing And then google this is gum candy. It's not It doesn't matter what google says you if it's from a business perspective hold on pft pft put it this way

This way Pft you say hank I'm I need a sugar fix. Can you please go to the store and get me some candy That come back with a pack of gum If you said what would you say if you said big cat can I get a piece of candy and I handed you a fucking piece of trident I would say thank you. No, at least it's at least this is another bubble our carefree gum Okay, yellow warheads That's a decent pick. What about atomic bombs? Those those those suck or what? No, what were they called?

I like atomic warheads. I like What were the red but fireballs fireballs those? Yeah, those are bad. I should have said fireballs But only psychopaths like liked fireballs. Yes. Yeah only with someone. Yeah, let me get a fireball So what I will eat any flavor of warhead and warheads were Like trade gold at the lunch table, but if you the second you bring out a yellow one get out of my face Um, I'm trying to think if there's anything we missed any other. Do you have any? Juicy fruit. No, juji fruit. No. No, it is a juicy fruit. Good pick Yeah, uh, do you guys like um

Was it it's almond joy and then what's the other one mounts? I can't remember which one I don't like Almond joy has nuts mounts doesn't have nuts. He says that's the exact same Heath bar is is the craziest one because Heath bars aren't good, but Heath bar ice cream is good Mm-hmm. Yeah when it's crumbled when it's uh Deconstructed Heath bar is really really good. Yeah, what about a payday bar those things suck. Oh, so bad It's all peanuts. Yeah

That's another one where it's like that's that was a pre 19 like 45 candy We're like, hey, you want some candy here. Here's a bunch of peanuts I just smashed together and like put a little bit of caramel in it Yeah, back when you got paid that you could only afford a candy bar. I got an extra nickel. Yeah You know what it was? It was originally. Oh, Henry bars and then they said this cost too much to produce So let's just make it. Oh, Henry bar without the chocolate coating on it and that was a payday. Ah, okay Thousand grand those are actually good though. Yeah a hundred grand You're right. You're right on about payday introduced 1932. There you go

Do you can tell the candy where it's like there's no candy innovation in this? This was just the candy that that like kids ate on halloween when they actually dressed up like ghosts Everyone dressed they were seen like halloween from like the 1930s They they would dress up to actually like scare the fuck out of every living person on earth And it was terrifying. Yeah, that was like earl dutch clark's favorite candy When he was in the league, he probably did advertisements for it. It's like march on lynch eight skittles earl dutch clark eight Smarties and paydays Yeah, it's just like uh, nelson rockerfeller just jizzed in a pile of peanuts and let it freeze together and then handed to me

Yum payday Anything else i'm trying to think I think we got most of the bad ones These are all the ones that you if you put them in a bowl, they would just all be there at the bottom We should try every way I was gonna say we should do a science experiment with all these to see what truly is the worst But we're never going to be able to see people again That's not true That's not true at all the drafts coming up

Also, stay woke on did you see what jj wadstone? He's got a game ultimate tag. Yeah, he's trying to dovetail off the mj documentary like them bullying Uh, yes pain into releasing that early So jj was like, hey, uh, fox. Is there a way that we can release ultimate tag early? And so probably tomorrow fox is gonna be like you guys asked for it. You got it ultimate tag With the watt brothers coming out next week I could use some like terrible summer programming games Why not throw it all out there?

Rock and jock. Give me a rock and jock marathon. Uh, all right. So friday we have Joe buck and we have the review of King of Kong Fistful of quarters. So everyone make sure you watch you can watch it on youtube. So make sure you watch it We're trying to book a guess from it We shall see we shall see it's better than I remember. It's one of my favorite documentaries Incredible incredible documentary. Uh, okay. We'll see everyone friday. Love you guys I

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