Pardon My Take - Adam Schefter, Reporter Fights In Indy, National Sports Podcast News + Fyre Fest

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

We have a reporter fight in Indy and PFT was on the scene with the intel in Jordan Schultz vs Ian Rapaport (00:00:0000:24:42). Pat Riley stole LeBron’s cookies and that’s why the Heat broke up (00:24:42-00:33:15). National Sports Podcast News talking college basketball and NFL team grades (00:33:15-00:50:11). Adam Schefter joins the show to talk combine, the past year, selling us the Assault phone, putting OJ on the death list and tons more (00:50:11-01:54:50). We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week (01:54:50-02:09:46).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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That's code TAKE for new customers. Get $150 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks. Only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, February 28th and we have a reporter fight PFT. You were on the scene Boots on the ground you stayed in India an extra day. Yeah, I got bullied to stay another night Because I had a poor showing night one of the combine. We all went home pretty early because we're old we're washed Mm-hmm went home at about 10 p.m. On on Tuesday night

So decided to stick around and I'm very glad that I did just for this little juicy nugget mm-hmm so What happened was I was having some drinks with friend of the program Mike Silver and a slew of Michael Michael Silver a slew of reporters and agents came downstairs and They were all abuzz about Essentially a melee that happened in the Starbucks talking mouse in the palace. It was worse than Malice in the palace Okay, so they came down and they were like we just saw the craziest thing ever and it was an extension of Twitter fight that happened earlier in the day So it all stems from the report that Jordan Schultz had that Matt Stafford and Tom Brady went

on a nice little cozy ski vacation together. Matt Stafford, it is kind of, you'll see a pattern with him. He went to Cabo with Sean McVeigh before he became a Ram. That was also a coincidence that they happened to run into each other. Just happened to see each other. So in this case, he happened to run into Tom Brady at a ski resort and Schultz was saying that they talked about the future, things like that. And then Ian Rappaport came over the top and said, I'm told that this was just a coincidence. They both go vacationing there. Sometimes they did not talk about plans for the future.

So Jordan Schultz was essentially reporting that Tom Brady almost like hosted Matthew Stafford to come out. Yes. And that would be tampering at his quaint little fit. Well, it was a fitness vacation. Yeah. And if fitness vacation and Ian Rapport is like, no, that was actually a coincidental. They see each other, which by the way, I know the Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford thing. I know it seems implausible to have these two guys just run into each other, but I do think that we don't realize what like the insane, insane wealthy athletes, like they only have a couple places they can go to have

like be totally private. So it's not totally crazy they would run into each other. I mean, can you imagine the coincidence level though, if like you and I happen to run into each other on vacation? Yeah. I'm just not buying it. Right. I don't think that's possible. But I do think there's, I think Tom Brady and Matthew Safford

are probably vacationing in a place that we could never get to. I think that's probably correct. Right. Yes. So they, according to Rappaport, they just happened to be at the same place. Didn't talk about the future. Didn't talk about playing for the Raiders. The interesting part though is that Jordan Schultz works for Fox. And so he was saying like he was telling on his Coworker Tom Brady, okay, and then that that got people all in a tizzy at the combine, too This is the level of nerdiness that happens at the combine. Yeah, I can't believe he's going after his own co-worker like that so That was that was earlier in the day apparently

Schultz ran into Ian Rapaport at the Starbucks. This would never happen at Estella Blue. No violence free. Also real quick. So it was at Starbucks, Jordan Schultz. There's no relation to that's what's interesting. Oh, okay. His dad was the CEO of Starbucks, Starbucks, and not founder, but he was the guy he was the Starbucks guy. Yeah, and Also Sonic's guy his dad was the guy that did the sonics way. Yeah, so They get into a little argument there Jordan Schultz walks up to Ian says we have to talk Ian says I don't think we have to talk about anything Jordan Schultz then says like you need to back the fuck off because you're talking about me behind my back Oh throws in a couple f-bombs. Okay, then rapport was like I'm not talking about you need to back the fuck off because you're talking about me behind my back Oh throws in a couple f-bombs

Okay, then rapport was like I'm not talking about you behind your back. Apparently this is what the scuttlebutt was okay? Schultz was saying that Ian Rappaport is going behind his back and telling people that Jordan Schultz gives Agents uber stock in exchange for scoops uber stock over so I don't know how this got involved like a lot of stock Or yeah, like uber amount of Starbucks stock No, like uber stock is what the car somehow shows thought that rapid port was telling people that he was giving people over stock Okay, I talked to rapid port In rap porous never told anybody that they get uber stock, but now it's going to be in rap But yeah per sources well that also now it's going to Ian Rapoport per sources.

Well that also now it has me thinking like, yeah, if you, if you're Jordan Schultz, you're accusing someone of that. It feels like it could be true. I don't know. I, huh? I don't think that Ian actually said anything like that. He's probably said some other things about Jordan Schultz behind his back. I'm not saying it could be true that Ian Rapoport saying it. I'm saying if you're going around defending and being like, Hey, I'm not giving Uber stock to people. It raises a lot of questions about Uber stock. I didn't even say anything about Uber stock. Yeah. My not involved in human trafficking t-shirt is making people ask a lot of questions that are already answered by my t-shirt. Correct. Correct. So, uh, so

there was, there was a dust-up, there was a fracas, he got in his face apparently. I'm going to read Mike Florio's report on everything. He knew Florio was going to get involved. Love that. Yeah, so this is per Pro Football Talk. If you have anything to say to me, say it to my fucking face, Schultz said, or specific words to that effect. If this continues, we're going to have a fucking problem.

Oh boy. If this happens again, we're going to have a fucking problem, Schultz said, or specific words to that effect. I love that reporting. Now I'll step back. So got in his face, there were like I don't know five or ten people that just witnessed it straight up happen, and then after he walked away, Rapport notified NFL security. called the cops or Roger Dell on him And per per sources. What does that mean? Well, he called it. He called NFL security was like hey, there was a Confrontation there's a fracas according to Rappaport. But why he called the cop or he called the NFL security? Because it was witnessed by so many people He knew that somebody would have reported it and he wanted to talk to them instead of them

Calling him in a day and him having to give his side of the story ha per per rapport I think we just said something NFL security would be concerned about they are investigating There's an active ongoing investigation. I don't know how I feel about this So I think I know how I feel about it Rough and rowdy. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be good. Let's settle it in the ring. Rapport, I did see him earlier in the day. He was wearing a pretty sick, uh, shark backpack. That's not like the one he was wearing a few years ago. It's like all blacked out shark. New shark. Yeah. It's a new shark. He looks good. Um, yeah, I, I, I'm on,

I think I'm on Rapport side until the police get involved NFL security gets involved That was that was not a good move like that He should have probably just instead of calling NFL security should have just blew on his rape whistle What I starbuck what I would have done is I would have just simply gotten punched in the face and then made a fuckload Of money true. Good point. This is maybe over stock. This is just such a hilarious like they're fighting They're having a source off. They're fighting in a Starbucks. No actual physical contact was made. Just bad words said back and forth. And I think Jordan Schultz told Floreau he did not say any bad words.

He said he didn't recall using all that profanity. Now I do have a picture. Do you want to see the picture of the confrontation? I would love to see a picture of the confrontation. Wait, you were there? I was not there. Okay, you got yeah cuz I want video of this I don't think that there was any video This is the only picture that I know that exists and it's perfect because the Starbucks sign is right above Jordan Also, they look like they're not in a fight at all. Schultz is he's smiling

Hands on his hips. He is towering over Rappaport. Yeah, and that appears to be Jeremy Fowler next to them as well I listen it's always good when a couple reporters getting a little fruckus over source off. It's good. This is good for the sport Yeah, now get the buzz going if there's the the lamest fight ever I'll say that right now if there was an NFL insider Royal Rumble. I take Jay Glazer. What about what about our guy Prisco? I don't know that he's an insider. He's a film guy. Yeah, but he would fuck some people if he heard that there was a journalist fight. He'd show up. Yeah, no, Jake laser obviously is one one draft pick. I think he's one one close. I feel like I take Schafter over rap sheet.

Yeah, he's a sturdier boy. I'd agree with that. Fowowler is big he's got a reach issue that's gonna be tough to deal with yeah Racini got like seven red cards in college so she's a dog she's violent dog she could she could dog it up Rob Lowe Rob Lowe's an insider yeah yeah I yeah it's not exactly the the who's who of guys who should be fighting I would imagine both these guys probably haven't been in a fistfight. No It's just so funny that he called The NFL security on someone on another reporter reporter on reporter crime Yeah, but this what do you think the NFL security is like they're like dude. Are you serious? Yeah, you know we have we have we have Like 150 college prospects here

We got to make sure that everything goes out incident and you're calling about a source off at a Starbucks Yeah I think they have bigger fish to fry Than two guys that will never fight and if they did fight would probably not do any damage to each other No, they should have a they should have a debate. I would like to see a debate Yeah, who do you guys think is right about the the Brady Stafford interaction? I find it I find it hard to believe that they just showed up at the same vacation we're like oh this is a weird coincidence I don't think though but I see that's what I'm saying I don't know

if it's that weird of a coincidence when it's like I'm pretty sure they they what's the club called there's the it's the it's guy yeah so there's a club where you have to buy a home to be part of the club, and the homes are like $10 million. So it's like Zuckerberg and Brady, and so just to be in that room, you have to be the wealthiest of wealthy. So that's where I'm like, it actually could happen in my mind

because it's not like they saw each other at Disney World. You know what I mean? They ran each other a Times Square. It's a weird coincidence that the owner of a team that is looking to get a quarterback and a quarterback who is looking to be traded from his team happened to be at the same place hanging out. It is a weird coincidence for sure,

but I just think that these, like the crazy, crazy wealthy and starts, so what does it say? Yeah, home purchase price of three million or more and a initial membership due of $400,000 plus annual costs. Not a lot of people get in that. Zuckerberg, Bill Gates. Yeah, this is who we're talking about, yeah.

So. Yeah, I mean, I know this club exists. I just think that I think the two of them were having a little rendezvous on the slopes. But do you think, I guess really the only thing would be, do you think they, that there was an explicit invitation? That would be where it's tampering, where if like Brady was like, hey, come out here, or was it they happened to see each other or maybe someone tipped off one of the sides

being like, hey, I think Stafford's there. Hey, I think Brady's there. I don't know. Then they might've met up. The rules don't apply to Tom Brady though. So he'll probably get away with it. Earl smashes phone before it gets confiscated. I think if you can prove that that that Tom Brady was like, Hey, I'm going to be at Yellowstone club come out for the weekend. Then that's tampering. Otherwise it's gonna be hard to prove. Does that feel

fair? It's gonna be very hard to prove. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And especially since Stafford has kind of been given permission to look for a trade, right and feel out where his next location is going to be. Is that tampering? Everybody's gonna be tampering with him. Yeah. Is that because he's been set set in the wild where he can go try to talk to people. Is that technically tampering? I think they have an open relationship right now. The way that is and Matt Stafford

So Tom Brady just cracked the garage out at the Yellowstone Club put a pineapple on the front lawn Yeah, we're got his pineapple snow Snowboard out and yeah, just had a little conversation It is kind of crazy the whole Tom Brady situation like there they it does feel like this What this is what the third or fourth time something has happened? Mm-hmm, so just just figure it out the rules don't apply just figure it out like like figure what the third or fourth time something has happened. So just figure it out. The rules don't apply. Just figure it out, like figure out the rules, NFL.

Goodell would, you'd think he'd want to go after Brady for something like this. Right, it is funny though that Schultz works for Fox and then he was tattling on his coworker. Yeah, although there's 0% chance that if you ask Tom Brady, is Jordan Schultz your coworker? He'd say yes. Correct. Like there's no way, he's like,

oh yeah, that's my coworker. Yeah. Unless Tom Brady owns like half of Uber. Then he'd be like, yeah, we're, we do a lot of business together. Yeah, I see the stock going, being traded every single day. It's such a funny accusation though,

that this guy's giving out Uber stock in exchange for scoops. All right, so do we have a conclusion to it? Is there anything, any, anything else from it? My conclusion was that everybody, did you ask Grappler if he'd fight him? I did not ask him if he'd fight him. I talked, he was the first, he stepped like into this room at this party I was at after I had tweeted it out

and the story had just broken. I was the first person he saw. He was like, you motherfucker. I was like, hey, I'm just doing my job. Yeah Do you guys I'm a journalist just like you? Yeah, I didn't name any names I was gonna let it come out. But yeah, it was uh, it was quite a night. That's hilarious I also saw a big Dom. I got to be big Dom for big Dom I introduced him somebody I was like this guy's gonna take my pies on yeah We'd seen him earlier in the day with Nick's here on a coming Monday max good job on that interview Thanks, you guys tried to fuck me, but thanks

Yeah, I don't think we just remembered facts. Yeah, okay, so we also had the NFL report cards come out There I feel like they used to have more anecdotes from these Now it just feels like a straight report card. I needed more anecdotes. I needed more like, oh yeah, the Jaguars, like I tried to get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and there was a cockroach on it. Yeah, I remember those. It was like small blurbs.

There was a couple of blurbs. One for your owner, Hank. Robber Crafts plane is not up to snuff. Ashtrays. I mean, if you're like, if I personally, me, if I mean if you're like if I personally me if I buy a private jet like I'm keeping it for probably a long time. But ashtrays is wild. Like seeing ashtrays anywhere. No. Kind of a wild like 1993 1994. You get new seats put in. That's probably true. How crazy is that used to just be allowed to smoke on airplanes. Yeah, I can't even imagine that yeah, it's crazy or restaurants

Yeah, I mean yeah bars. I remember when it was was like 2008 maybe it was bad everywhere. Yeah, I remember the last night It was like I think it was in Illinois was too I think I remember being at a bar and everyone was just like smoking cigarettes is like tomorrow. You can't do this anymore Yeah in Virginia. I would go to bars sometimes. This is when I was like under underage, but I would go to see a band or something. And then your hair would just smell like cigarettes for three days, no matter what you did after that.

Good bands. Yeah, that's wild. Well, they had the smoking section, which was just a table that was right next to the non smoking. So I got it 2008. I remember Yeah, just everyone was just everyone was like, even people don't smoke like this is our last smoking. So I got it 2008. I remember. Yeah, just everyone was just everyone was like, even people don't smoke like this is our last chance. Got to do it. Yeah, you just come home reeking of cigarettes. Reeking. So so the Patriots got an F for team travel, the bills

got an F minus for team travel. Again, that's not a real grade enough minus doesn't exist. Doesn't this it's all it's all Fs. But they got an F- for travel, the players aren't happy with the travel accommodations for away games. I think it's just that the Bills miss being in Buffalo when they're on the road. Probably. They're just like there's no wing nuts here. Yeah.

F-. Yeah and then there was, kind of insulting they should have just did like a, what do you say, NA for the only coaches that got a C or worse were the Bears and the Jaguars because obviously this poll was done, I think it was like August to November. This is Doug Peterson and Matt Eberfluss. That felt mean. You could just say, you know, coaching change. It doesn't count anymore because like they're sitting there minding their business like,

oh, fuck, my team really hated me Yeah, that's she was the worst see was an F. Yeah, the the Eagles also had an F for team travel Mmm, they don't like the travel so I'm gonna fix that gotta fix that I like this poll because it's I mean the commanders got like way better at a bunch of stuff Well, let's hear they they they basically get embarrassed publicly Yeah And then they fix it. Last year, the commander's got an F-

for treatment of families. And I would say that that's probably the category that you do not want to get an F- in. That seems to be a pretty important one. That really is just breastfeeding rooms. They have a daycare facility now, which is good. Otherwise, it was just like, if you are playing in the game,

bring your kids to the stadium, and just let them go. Yeah, I don't understand how anyone owns a team and gets anything worse than like a B on any of these things. If I had that much money and I owned a team I'd be tricking out everything. Yeah. Like everything. I'd have the sickest locker room possible. Yeah locker rooms there were a lot of negative comments about locker rooms. I'd also have a locker in the locker room. Yeah Yeah, and I would like I would time up my workouts so that I was I was like changing when all the guys came off the Field being like man. What a what a great practice we had. Yeah, so the last place was the Cardinals I believe I think they had the worst grades overall. Yeah, the Jets memes

Memes EF for ownership. Mmm I think that's woody That's what I think Rick is the future yeah bad that is bad it looks like the players turned on the owner and in the Grading it is such a funny concept like where They probably obviously when they see woody Johnson in the hallway. They're nice as possible, and then they're like yeah, he's an F when they see Woody Johnson in the hallway they're nice as possible and then they're like yeah, he's an F Absolute F and he sees is like what the hell I thought those guys liked me. I thought you guys were my friends Yeah, we were talking game the Patriots got an F for their weight room. Gotta get that weight room fixed I think for Abe's gonna take care of that

Day one. I don't understand how you have a bad weight room. I don't understand how you've about any of these things Am I crazy for saying that? Yeah, no, you're not crazy. Yeah, like remember a couple years ago the Bengals it was like they they didn't do food on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Yeah, how is that? I know how it's possible the owners cheap, but I just don't understand I can't conceptualize an owner of a football team being like our players don't get to eat on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and I'm in weight room and fitness right that's how you build the team right like you can't control coach you know if they don't like to coach obviously a strength coaching you hire the wrong guy but yeah like locker room food weight room that's so easy yeah has to

be so easy Dan Campbell had a hundred percent approval rating love as a head coach I think believe Dan Quinn did too. I think where he Morris also was very highly rated. Yeah, so looking at the The Bengals they got the f-minus for treatment of families And then yeah Bears looked okay, yeah There was the Bears it was the coach obviously brought their grade down and I think they got to fix treatment of families as well. So it's work to be done and also win games. That's the other thing is they actually should do a column here for fans. Fans should get a say in this.

I agree. Just overall vibes. The other thing, the Baltimore Ravens, didn't they get an F a couple years ago Maybe it was last year for their their medical stuff training stuff so good news now the training staff is at a B minus Oh, so they've improved I think that was just when they were all injured and they're like it's the trainers fault right right The Eagles got an A minus in food. I think that's probably just Big Dom's office Yeah, it's just like everyone's like I had the food was fine

But I can always go to Big Dom's office. Yeah. It's just like, everyone's like, yeah, the food was fine, but I can always go to Big Dom's office and get a great meal. I can open up a cabinet and have a chicken parm ready to go. Okay, what else we got? Did you guys see? Did you see the Eagles? So the players feel they should get first class seats

on team flights instead of the coaching staff? Oh, that's a fair point. So they want the coaches to sit coach. Here's something I don't understand as well, and maybe someone can explain to me. When you buy a plane, why isn't every seat just first class? That's I think the Patriots complaints as well.

I don't get it. You can remodel. Make every seat first class. Have every seat be a lay down bed. I don't understand it. Do you think the linemen are sitting like coach? Like a guy who's like Jordan Milada is sitting in like 23B? I think they get full rows, but I don't know why you wouldn't remodel it and

just make it so that everyone has an awesome seat. What's the difference then if you get a full row? Leg room. Leg room. It's probably like Southwest. They get on and then you can pick your seat. Jordan takes the middle seat and then just defies anybody to try to sit window or aisle next to him. We need to get an owner on and just talk to him.

Just be like, how is this possible? Maybe I'm just way missing this, but the NFL makes so much money. These guys make so much money every single year. I would put all the money back into it and just be like, here guys, let's make this the best place possible so people want every single year. I have to, I would, I would put all the money back into it and just be like, here guys, let's make this the best place possible. So people want to come here. Yeah. You would think so, right? It, Oh no, I'm looking at Patriots aircraft has all first-class seats with five extra inches of legroom beyond a typical first-class seat. They call it aircraft. Yeah, that's awesome. That's a good name. That is pretty funny. Well

done. Max got it. Got what? I get, they still got a bad travel. Okay. Yeah's a good name. That is pretty funny. Well done Max. Got it Got what I get they still got a bad travel. Okay. Yeah. Yeah craft I think just teams don't like I saw a lot of teams complaining that there wasn't Wi-Fi on the planes But that's every plane ever. Yeah, you could you could be the richest person in the world And you still would be trying to get Wi-Fi on a plane Yeah, and just how it was been the entire flight just refreshing and you don't get anything. Right. But you spend two hours searching for Wi-Fi. I also think the Dolphins aren't filling this out.

I think the team just got sent the thing and they just didn't read anything, did fives across the board. Well, the Dolphins get the credit of living in Miami. So everyone's like, yeah, my life's pretty good. I live in Miami. I think the... Everything is A plus, they're first in everything. I think that they, everyone has got that survey where it's like, I don't feel like filling this out.

I'm just giving five. It's an A plus, but I think where you live matters because it's like, if you're in Buffalo, if you're in Green Bay, if you're in Cleveland, you need your facility and weight room to be good because that's where it sucks outside. You have to attract people.

I think the Vikings and the Falcons also had very good grades. Yeah, they always do. Just everybody copying over her cousin's shoulder. Yeah. Okay. So good job. Some of the teams, not all of them. Did you guys see one of my favorite stories I've seen in a while, Dwayne Wade did a podcast and he revealed

that he knew that LeBron's time in Miami was coming to a close because Pat Riley took away LeBron's cookies. Yeah. Incredible. And also, I think I'm 100% on LeBron's side. So Dwayne Wade tells a story. He's like, yeah, we get on the plane. LeBron loves cookies, loves ice cream.

He's got a bag of cookies that he brings on every plane. And they were playing cards. And LeBron said to someone, hey, bring me my cookies. And the flight attendant was like, sorry, sir, there are no more cookies on this plane. Pat Riley had taken them away. I would, if someone takes another man's cookies, you have to fight them. That's fight. That's fight fuck

You know whether Tom Brady invited Matthew Stafford That's a fight the thing is like it you could just not give cookies in the first place But you can't give them and then take them away, but he brought the cookies Oh, he brought his own cookies on the plane. They were fine the clip. Can we play the clip? He brought the cookies and Pat Riley confiscated him like it was fat camp What kind of cookies were there? He said chocolate chip? Which were they only I listen us? God forbid if those were homemade cookies. Yeah, then it's then it's actually you have to beat the fuck out of Pat Riley in front

Of the whole team. I'm saying if they're ooey and they're gooey and you take them. Yeah, I'm quitting It's very funny cuz Dwayne Wade explains it, but like LeBron stopped playing cards when he found out his cookies were taken. And it was like, that's a real, so this is from the underground lounge. This was the first moment where I had an inkling that LeBron may not be back.

One thing you don't do is fuck with LeBron cookies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is serious. Like he lovesBron cookies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no What's on the plane? Yeah, but you know he have his cookie So we get on it we get on a we get on a plane and we play cards at the front of the plane We play cards at the end at some point brahma play. Hey bring me those cookies and there's one day He was like hey, where my cookies that they had to come up there whispers in tell them there were no more cookies on the plane That motherfucker set back away from the game He pushed that tape that cars game. He pushed that table, that car's back. He sat there quiet, doing his head like this. I was looking, I'm like.

He ain't play cards no more. He sat there like this. It's like, you gotta know, if this car game gets shut down, shit's serious. Oh yeah, I know. No, it's serious. If this car game gets shut down, it's serious. It was too much micromanaging

That's it. Like you're I am I wasn't familiar with LeBron's game. You don't need I didn't know he was I didn't know He's a bring his own cookies guy. Yeah, I mean I would quit I would quit if I were LeBron I don't blame him from walking away from the heat for this. Yeah, that that is That's the most like I would rather someone Come and pat me on the head like patronizing words to take someone to take another man's cookies. You're basically saying they're a four year old that didn't eat their vegetables. Yeah, you're calling them fat. I'm upset for Lebron.

I this this story pissed me off. Pat Riley, bad guy. Real bad guy. What if what if they just ate them all? What if they were so good, the flight attendants had them, it got out of hand, no more cookies. You think they would say that though? It sounded, I mean, it sounded like Dwayne Wade had it down pat that it was Pat Riley. Cause remember this is, this also matches with what the heat culture where they weigh them every day and all that stuff. Max, you agree. I think they're probably shitty cookies. What? What? Yeah.

His, he, you don't think that if he has a chef making his dinner, he doesn't have a chef making his cookies? But I think his chef making his dinner, that's because he like only eats specific healthy shit. Why would he get shitty cookies? So that he's probably getting like almond flour cookies and stuff. No. No.

I feel like that's his vice. No, I think that's his vice no I think that's his vice I think the chef is probably making the best cookies possible, and I I Know that this sounds ridiculous because people are like dude. You're really upset about this. I'm upset about this It's the most I've ever been a LeBron fan and the ice cream makes you think that it's yeah Yeah, he's got a sweet tooth. Yeah. He's got a sweet tooth. Okay. Okay back mm-hmm If you have anyone ever took my cookies, oh my god, I Would lose it. I've been eating so many Girl Scout cookies. Just I was supposed to I bought a bunch

I've still been thinking about those Sam the Sam Schwartz scenes cookies that he brought in So good shout out his wife the Girl Scout cookies in my house we bought a bunch because my little cousin is a Girl Scout and so she came over and gave us a bunch and then I Was like alright, I'm gonna bring him to the office and I just haven't been bringing to the office I've just been mowing them down box by box. It's crazy. I discovered some thin mints in my freezer from last year You think those are still good? Yeah, that's very good I actually think there was there was a clip going viral that was like thin mints in my freezer from last year. You think those are still good? Yeah, definitely. Okay, good. I actually think there was there was a clip going viral that was like thin mints are essentially not food. I don't care. Yeah. Well, I love whenever they do that. Whenever,

whenever you see the video and they have the blowtorch, like watch this Oreo doesn't get go on fire. You know what? Don't care. Yeah, we left this Big Mac on the counter for three months and it still looks exactly the same all right there's some shit that I think they should probably fix but in terms of cookies I don't care but I know when you're eating a cookie you're not eating a cookie being like this is good for me you're opting into bad stuff mm-hmm so it could be as bad as possible I don't give a fuck do I want the bread to be better sure cookies I'm fine so the big question I have though LeBron has been so good at Curating and managing his public image throughout the years. How come he didn't talk about this?

I everyone would have been on his side if he had just said hey, Miami great You know five years or whatever was four years one two titles Pat Riley took my cookies. I gotta go Yeah, that's it. Everyone would be like, one, two titles, Pat Riley took my cookies. I gotta go. Yeah. That's it. Everyone would be like, yeah, you know what? He actually should go revisionist history and be like, Dan Gilbert took my cookies. And that's why I made the initial move to my, and then he promised me that he would, he would let me have my cookies again. So I came back. Um, all right. Uh, the other thing I had, uh, was Jordan would never allow his cookies to be taken. No, that's the thing. That's the difference.

You fight. You keep that on his person. Yeah, absolutely. Bad opsec by LeBron letting another man touch your cookies to begin with. You can't let them out of your sight. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing I had was a little little national sports podcast talk college basketball, incredible night of college basketball. I was talking with Titus because I went on His show it does feel like the sport in general Knows that March is coming because we had like an insane buzzer beater in the Michigan State game We had great finishes and in Kentucky and Oklahoma and in Texas and Arkansas Villanova temple temple That was a great finish temp 50. I was I was watching this game because crazy, I bet on it, but I was I the temple game

the guy goes to take a On the baseline a buzzer be like maybe like two seconds left He gets blocked by all three UC USF guys and their momentum carries him He just grabs the block and then and then hits the shot. Let me see it was crazy or two carries him he just grabs the block and then and then hits the shot. Let me see here. It was crazy. Or two. Boom. That's pretty incredible. Needed overtime bad there. That was that was heartbreak. I'm excited for conference tournament week. My favorite week of the year. It's gonna be great. Yeah, so so the stories I had one was uh, I don't know if you saw but Danny Hurley had a very funny moment where the media asked him about the press and he said, the press has been an asshole to me all year. And then

the guy was like, I'm talking about the press on the court when they put team presses you. Yeah. And he was also been an asshole. Yeah. It was also been an asshole. Uh, I also have a new, a new thing. Cause we, we, we at this podcast, we talked about coach Cal being on the hot seat a lot. Probably can't do that right now because he's, you know, first year at Arkansas got paid a lot of money. They actually got a big win. They should be, they should potentially be in the tournament. Uh, but I'm addicted to anytime Kentucky wins a game, just saying that's a game Cal would have lost. Yeah. And last night I got in a real tricky spot because Kentucky won and I said, that's a game Cal would have lost. And then five minutes later Cal beat Texas in overtime. And I was like,

great job by Cal. That's a game Cal usually loses. So, but I think that's what we have to say for it. Doesn't have to make sense. Cal won a lot of games, but every game that Kentucky wins, we just gotta be like, that's what we have to say for it doesn't have to make sense Cal won a lot of games But every game that Kentucky wins, we just gotta be like that's a game Cal would have lost Yeah, I mean if they score if they like really fill it up and they win by 20, that's a game Cal would have won Mm-hmm, but if it comes down to X's nose Cal would have lost it I would have lost it is very funny because it pisses people off because They're like, you know Cal won an insane amount of games. Like, yeah, I'm aware, but the ones he lost, that was, that was one of the ones he would have lost. Yeah. I like that. I like that take. Let's just run with it. Yeah. It's just anytime Kentucky's in a close game, you just say that's a game

cow would have lost. I like it. There's another piece of news from the NFL. Okay. They're going to start using Hawkeye technology. Oh yeah. I saw that. So for first downs next year, they're going to have the chain gang on the sideline to use as a backup just in case, but they're going to do like tennis does. And they're going to say first down, no first down based on technology. Okay. Which I like the chain gang. I don't want to turn NFL into a computer simulation.

I like having the guys run out on the field with a chain. There's something nice about seeing a 70 year old man trot out there very slowly and then they measure it then the official gets real close, holds up his hands. I like that part of the game. I have a question and this comes from a place of love because I do love Bills mafia. I love Josh Allen. Everyone knows that. What happens if the Bills actually win a Super Bowl? Will we just get no new rules? Because all our new rules are just whenever the Bills lose to the Chiefs, we make a new rule. Yeah, that's pretty much how it's done.

They're also thinking about changing overtime. Again, Troy Vincent said it's time to re-examine the overtime rules, which sucks because it takes us two years to really learn overtime and be able to spot it like off the top of our head. If you were to ask me like on a Wednesday during NFL season, what is the NFL's overtime policy? It takes me like a year to get confident. Yeah, to just have that information and then they change it. And then they're going to have to put that big graphic up before before overtime. It's not going to make any sense to me.

Yeah, yeah, here are the overtime rules. All right, what else? Oh, I also for college basketball. I I think they should change the rules. We're talking about changing rules I think we should ban following up three. I don't know how they could do it I like the idea of maybe if you follow up three they get three shots So just like really high pressure three Three five free throws, but there's there's nothing worse than in a game where a team is up three and it just becomes a file fest and You lose out on like awesome moments. Yeah, it's intentionally breaking a rule while you're leading that game Right doesn't sit right with me, right? So I don't know and also people don't understand follow-up three. It's like a concept

There's a lot of people who are like That's why you got a follow-up three when when a team will hit a shot with Like 10 seconds left. It's like no you don't follow up three with 10 seconds left. What's the time zone that you hit it? I think it's like gotta be it's it's usually like five It's like five to like two seconds kind of like Oregon hit a three against Wisconsin on Saturday to tie the game There was eight seconds left. Yeah, and Ross team was like, that's why you got to follow up three It's like no, that's not why you follow up My favorite thing to do at the end of the game is no matter how much time's left no

matter what the lead is I just like to say you don't need a two or you don't need a three here. Yeah you can get a two here. You usually can. You usually get an easy two because they're playing three point defense. You just run to the when would you follow up three max. It's like five seconds maybe less. No I think I don't hate fouling up especially Wisconsin Wisconsin should be fouling up three early because they're the best free throw shooting team of all time. I don't know, but if you foul up three with 10 seconds left,

there's so many possessions left. But you just gotta trust your, if you're that good of a free throw shooting team, you gotta trust your free throws. That's all you gotta do. Yeah, I just like seeing games have thrilling endings instead of games. I think it depends on the, it depends on the team.

If you're a shitty free throw shooting team you probably never foul up three yeah yeah true true but I'm ready for madness that Michigan State I felt bad for our friend Scott Van Peltie I think that was right in his eye yeah he was on whose court side I think it might be is o season oh yeah he's he said these guys are playing for Michigan State. That's all they care about love it No, he's feeling it. Love it. There's another little tidbit here max I'd like to get your take on from Steph know Steph know did some research and He came to the conclusion that Paul George played better this season right after he dropped podcasts Hmm, and now he's not podcasting anymore. So Games directly following a podcast, he averaged 17.1 points per game. With no podcast, down to 16 points per game. It also sounds like he just never wants to podcast again.

So what happened? Paul George just quit his podcast because the Sixers suck? He said until they are like contending for a championship, so... Zero Dark Thirty. That was just a way of him being like, I don't want to podcast anymore. Yeah, it's not for everybody Now the craziest one is his three-point percentage In a game where there's no podcast before he shoots 31.9% in a game after a podcast drops He shoots 42 percent

42.9 got to get him podcast so he shoots 11% better from three directly after dropping a podcast I don't I'm done with Paul George oh that's my take wait even next year maybe we'll see wow seasons over I that's what I'm saying I don't care I don't I'm opting out of all Sixers news oh all of it I refuse to let you opt out. Yeah, we don't agree. The season is over. I just want to fast forward to the end of the season. Do you think when somebody does a deep dive

into the analytics of podcast P and his game, you think we're not going to bring that up to you? No, yeah, I understand. We have to talk about it. Yeah, you are trying to be Paul George. You're trying not to do a podcast. Yeah, you could say that. What could make you guys take a break from podcasting? Is there anything? Oh Hank? That's weird Why would you ask that right before golf season starts?

Mmm. I think if I played for the such a loaded cut like No weather for all degrees topical topical to your life. Yeah, no All right We were driving to Indy on Tuesday and after about 10 minutes on the road, Hank just looks to the side of the road and looks at me and smiles. I'm like, you motherfucker. He was just looking at the road that he takes to go to his golf club. And he was just thinking about getting out there with the sticks. So we asked the question

again, what would what would take us to stop podcasting? Paul George, stop podcasting to focus on a championship. Mm hmm. Nothing. Is there anything that you guys would stop podcasting to focus on? Sorry, that's apparently about me and I want you guys to stop podcasting. Never. I would never stop. No, I would only stop podcasting to focus on the podcast. I would only stop podcasting to focus on Hanks golf game. I had a bunch

of people coming up to me last week saying that I was the new Hank. What was that mean mean because you took a vacation vacation oh and you win now you're and you're a winner now and you're about it like that Wow yeah I am planning my next vacation just for yeah Hank has low-key kind of become the new max how so He hasn't worn anything in a while. He won, he won in a while. Almost a full year. Literally the second closest, wait no, third closest.

Third closest, yeah. What would take you to stop podcasting, Hank? Nothing, I would never stop. I love that about you. You guys stopping though will make me stop. I can never podcast without you guys. Oh, I love that I love that. We got also on the drive up or down to Indy Max just

Treated us like we were five years old. Yeah, that's not true. Yeah, it is you called and you said hey Do you guys think that you'll be on time you you called left yet? Yeah, you called As if I had left yet Because you're like it might you might miss the first interview guys leave yet That's a fact. We probably have the footage You the last I had spoken to you You told me that you were leaving at a different time I said as I was going through the drive

I was like time as I was going through the drive. I was like, as I was going through the drive, I was like, if he left at the time he told me he was going to leave, he may not be there on time. What time did you call though? I don't know. I can check my phone. But you know me pretty well, Max. I am not someone who's late to things or who like fucks up time things. I understand that.

I was just, I was getting anxious in my own brain about what I would do if you guys weren't like You know, we have cone showed up and it was just me I was getting anxious about what I was what I was going to do in that moment Okay, I would do the pot on your own. Yeah, just do it yourself It was you were you were a little bro, and then no that not little bro, and that was my own Anxiety taking over. What day, this was Tuesday? All right, yeah, it was exactly 20 minutes after he told me.

But that wasn't a, like, have you left yet? That was more of a- You said have you left yet? I know, but that was poor wording. Sometimes I have poor wording. Sometimes I have poor wording. I just wanted to know what the status was. The status was we were gonna be on time. Correct, but I wanted to make sure. I just wanted to know what the status was The status was we were gonna be on time correct, but I wanted to make sure I was you know

Have you guys been duped by any fake Epstein logs? All know it's in the I shout out the the bro high-end. I think is his Twitter name. Yeah Yeah, no Rudy Rudy that one was real Rudy was on the plane. He just he said wow here's the Epstein log This is crazy. It was just the Packers depth chart. And I've got like four names down. I was like, Oh wow, this is, this is fucked for them. Like, wait a second. I liked that. Uh, all right. We have anything else? Anything before we get to Shafty great interview with Shafty, any other national sports podcast news? It's going to be March soon.

It's going to be March on Saturday. It's gonna be March soon. It's gonna be March on Saturday and be a central. Oh yeah, free NBA Central. So they got suspended. I don't know. I don't think it's free them. Why? Because they had two months to declare themselves a parody account. They just didn't. They're not. They're they're central. Yeah, you got to kind of just do that. Right? Yeah. I mean, it's a parody account so it's like all you have to do is declare yourself a parody account I thought humor was legal now what about free speech or legalizing comedy okay so don't free him I mean I would like him back no I say you get me all the time I would get got all the time was the one

that I said on the podcast is like the the big nuts the testicle jewelry one yeah he was like crazy Draymond Green buys like $400,000 gold testicles I was like damn that's crazy I can't believe Hanks taking the side of of big tech You're blaming Sentel. Sentel is a vital part of the sports ecosystem. No, I mean, I think it's like if you're a parody account and they say if you want to, you know, you can be a parody account,

you just have to declare yourself as a parody account. If you don't, we're gonna take your account down. Yeah. Hold on, I gotta take this call. Hey, we're, it's Jerry OC. Hey, Jerry. We're about Hey, we're it's Jerry OC. Hey Jerry We're about to Jerry tag from from PMT. We're recording right now. We're about to get to the Schefter interview What do you mean no Listen to the Schefter interview Jerry. Why are you getting upset? You don't even know what Schefter said Yeah, the people listening right now don't even know the Schefter interview. Jerry, why are you getting upset?

You don't even know what Schefter said. Yeah, the people listening right now don't even know what Schefter said. Guys, don't do it to me. Just don't do it to me. Let me cook. Let me cook on my own, please. Let me cook on my own.

I just, I don't want... If you're gonna have Shifty and Shifty's kids chiming in, honestly, get Hank to manage it. Like, he'll get it. He's done a great job with the bark list. I'm sure. I mean, I'm not even kidding, you know?

Have, you know, Oldie do it. He can use some of his CFL knowledge. Beauty and all that stuff. He could maybe, you know, whip his pussy out. Listen, just listen to what we talked about with Schefter and then we'll talk after. Don't do it to me guys. Just be open minded. What did Shepty say about the Giants? Cause I gotta tell you, I saw a post that Aaron Rodgers might go there. And I'm not mad at that.

Yeah, listen, no one's listened to the Shepty interview yet because we're taping right now and this is right before we get to Shepty. That's a good tease for the Giants. But guys, honestly, I know that was a bit earlier. No it wasn't. I can't do it. Don't do it to me. Jerry, I need you to not flip know that was like a bit earlier. No it wasn't. I can't do it. Don't do it to me. Jerry, I need you to not flip out until you actually hear the words that you said in the interview.

Yeah, you gotta hear it and then we'll talk. I can't hear PFT. Tell him to say it with his chest. I can't hear it. I'm saying it with my chest Jerry. I'm telling you to just contain yourself until you listen to the interview. You might be whistling a different tune. Guys, please. You might have be whistling a different tune.

Guys, please. I'm not going to beg for my job. I'm not going to beg for my job. You are begging right now. I think we got to take these cookies away. I have a question about the Jaguar GM. Was that AI that child who did the press card? It might be. It might be. It might be.

Listen, just listen to the Chef D interview. This is great promo for the Chef D interview and we'll discuss afterwards, okay? Do it. I'll only work with Max. That's the only one. Why don't you get Steve J out of it? You'll have all our books next year. Good luck with that, fellas.

Okay. All right. We've heard your demands. Just listen to it with an open mind, okay? I'll only work with Max. Okay. Or memes. Okay. Or memes.yllis. Okay, alright, we've heard your demands, just listen to it with an open mind, okay?

I'll only work with Max. Or memes. Nobody outside of the building. Max or memes and not Hank. Okay. He'll be like, you just take care of it. Worked on the golf course. Alright, Cherry, we'll talk to you later.

Oh man, he's mad. People forget we did it closest to the pin with Jerry and he stayed on the simulator for six hours. It's true. Like golf. Also it just dawned on me, you know who won our fantasy league last year? Who? Jordan Schultz.

Oh! There it is. Yeah. So maybe team them up. That was a tough Venmo to send. Yeah, team them up. That was a tough then motor send. Yeah team that team them up Okay, let's get to our interview with Shafi where we do discuss maybe a Shuffle in the organization that we have going on with our fantasy football operation. We're examining everything to deliver a winner

Yeah, there's no there's no there's been no decisions made Jerry needs to understand that he's probably listen to this right now Jerry Did we have not made any decisions we're exploring all options it would be wrong of us as Owners of the team to not explore every avenue to make us better We're custodians of a very important franchise, right? And we take that very seriously and frankly Jerry's reaction to not having any news at all about this is concerning to me Yeah, there's a third phone call. We've had with him in the last 25 minutes. He hung up on us twice.

He seems a bit unstable. He seems a bit unstable. Uh, okay. Before we get to our interview with chef D we are brought to you by our friends. It truly, truly unruly is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good. Truly unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, drinks light, parties hard with 8% ABV. It hits hard, but still tastes good. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, drinks light, parties hard with 8% ABV.

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Schefter, ESPN Insider. This is maybe six straight year. I was going to ask you how many straight years we've now done this. It's been a lot. It's a combined tradition of having Chef Dion. And I didn't hear from you until Monday. I didn't even reach out. I knew you were good. I was. And we were getting all of our ducks in a row and then I hit you up and I was like, hey, can you do this time? You're like, yeah, I'll do whatever.

Yeah. What took you so long? Right. And it's become such a tradition. I said this before, and I really mean this. There's not a week that goes by where somebody doesn't stop me and say, I don't love the Adam Schifter podcast. I never hear that. But I love listening to you on PMT. I love that. That's the best compliment we can get.

Nobody has stopped me yet to say I love you on the Adam Schifter podcast. Yeah, nobody has stopped me yet to say I love you on the Adam Schefter podcast. Yeah, you changed the name. You lost the audience when they tuned in for the name. Yeah, they missed that. It's a basic Adam Schefter podcast, but stopped on a regular basis. Yeah. Love you on PMT. So hopefully- I love that. We're going to make the people happy today and give them what they want. All right. So I have a very, very important question to ask you first.

give them what they want. Very cool. So I have a very, very important question to ask you first. It's a multi-layered question. Let's start with this. You have two phones. Yeah. How new are they? When did you get them?

Well, it's funny you ask that because literally this is my primary phone right here in my lap and this is my secondary phone, which is the two phones I carry. And one of them is, they're two different carriers, providers. I have been ordering a new phone and it showed up from ESPN yesterday. And my son is like, why do they keep sending you old phones? And I called up to speak to somebody. I'm like, what's the deal? It's always two models behind. Right, right. And so they said, that's just how we do it.

OK, so how long? So you have a new phone. How long have you had the phone that you're switching out? Too long. How long? Three, four years. OK, so I ask that question because I'm sure you saw our mutual friend Woj selling

some of his old phones. I'm willing to offer, I think, unlimited amount of money to buy the Miles Garrett assault phone from you. I don't know which, I don't know if you can pinpoint exactly which phone that is, but I want that. I need it. I want to put it, I want to frame it. I want to put it in our studio. This would be the phone. This would be the phone. So name your price Name your price. Well, do we get to donate it to a charity? I don't know about that. I just want this phone

Does it get a prominent spot? We yes, we can we can donate to a charity Yes, we'll put it I want it I want it framed and I want to be like this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from so I want it framed and I want it to be like, this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from. So 11, 15, 2019. Oh, so that might not be the phone. So five, yeah, about five years ago. I'm not, listen, we know that we have to get this right

because if we buy the wrong phone and everyone's gonna be like, are you sure that's the phone? It would have to be authenticated. Yeah, so do you think there's a phone that you have maybe in your office that's the other phone that was the assault phone? I really believe that this is the assault phone. Okay.

All right, well we'll have to authenticate it, but we will donate to charity to get this in our studio. And then also- It gets framed. Yeah, framed, everything. And then you can also throw in maybe the phone that has the Dez Bryant tape on it. So we'll do that.

We'll do a two for one. That one you gotta keep the tape on it though. We'll have it just playing on loop in our studio. our studio. We do need to friends do some forensic analysis of the phone. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. But you're willing to negotiate for charity. 100% okay. Whatever you say. You get to wipe the phone. We'll put it up and it just says this is the phone that Adams Schefter tweeted assault from when Miles Garrett committed assault. It would be my honor to give you this phone. This is huge. There should be like a hall of fame section

in the Barstool office. We have a Dora Allen phone that he tweeted that thing out. That would be nice. Yes, we have the Will Compton Museum in one of the bathrooms. So, and listen, I'll also extend this courtesy to you. Whenever you want to come visit your phone, you have free right to come and visit your phone.

Wow, that's big. That's huge. Yeah, I mean, I charge admission for people to touch it. You can't put a price on that. Yeah. People taking pictures next to the phone. So wait, you have two different carriers? Do you do that just in case like AT&T blows up for a day?

No, just in case like, it's amazing how often I'm in one spot and I don't have reception on one phone, but I do on another. There's a road near my house that this phone loses reception every time, but this one keeps it. So you're always on the grid. It's weird. But this one, the primary one, it's really acting up and we got free agency in a couple

of weeks here and I do not trust this phone. This phone is literally on its last legs. It's a time bomb. And I'm working with Disney and they sent me a 15, model 15 and my son's like, you need a 16. I'm like, why? I don't understand any of this. I'm not smart enough tech wise. He's like, more processors, better chips. Okay. So I think I'm going to Apple this weekend to buy the 16 and if and when I do that and transfer over everything, you'll give me the address. That's ours. You give us a charity. I'll ship you this phone. I love it. And you can hang it on the wall. Yes. I love it. Speaking of Miles Garrett,

let's talk about Miles Garrett. Yeah. So love it. Speaking of Myles Garrett, let's talk about Myles Garrett real quick. Yeah. So is he going to be traded? Here's the, there are so many complicating factors with that, right? If you trade them, first of all, they've been very steadfast in saying, we're not trading him. That's number one.

Number two, if they do trade him, there's like a $36 million cap charge that gets accelerated. So it's hard to trade him. It's hard to do it from a financial standpoint. You don't know if there's a team out there that's even willing to give up what it would take. So there are a whole slew of factors. Now we've seen in recent years, any number of players want to go from wanting to be traded to signing extensions. Right. I know this is not money-based, but Lamar Jackson wanted to be traded, dropped that right before John Harbaugh was having breakfast with the reporters at the owners' meetings

a couple of years ago, and he wound up signing a month or so later. Debo, Samuel, Brandon, and I, we can go on and on. Again, I would think eventually maybe he'll soften up because the Browns feel like they're unwilling to move him. It would take a change. Now the Bears or the Raiders at one point in time were like, we're not trading Kalil Mack.

We're not trading Kalil Mack. We're not trading Kalil Mack. September 1st of that year after weeks and months had passed, they traded Kalil Mack to the Bears. Yes. So if they do trade them, what do you think the ballpark compensation is? And give us the teams that are going to be hot and heavy for. Well, if you go back and look at what the Bears gave up

for Khalil Mack. It was two firsts. It was a third, a fifth. It was a bunch of, to me, that's the most fair comp there is out there right now. You could look across the league league and I could tell you that there are 31 teams aside from Cleveland that could use Miles Garret. Realistically, I think you're looking at a contender that needs a pass rusher that it can make a huge difference.

Buffalo would be unbelievable. Washington would be unbelievable. Your contender. Yeah, contender. Right? How does it feel when we say Washington contender? It's special. Contender. Yeah, contender, right? Like, yeah, how does it feel? Did you always say Washington? Special contender makes me feel tingly contender. I don't see the thing about Washington is they were a great team.

They're fun to watch last year. I love the direction the teams going and Dan Quinn did a great job. Adam Peters seems to know what he's doing. But the roster needs a lot of upgrades. I don't know that you can say that it's we're one piece away just because we got to the NFC Championship game. The roster across the board,

they have to go out and find all these replacements. So, well, yes, I would love, Miles Garrett, I feel like the compensation's gonna be very, very rich. It is absolutely, and that's even if they do trade in, which right now they say they not going to. But Jayden Daniels, like you are set up for the next 12 to 15 years. Don't say that. That's a long time. But that's what I hope I

hope I hope that you're right. He said because we're in these chairs not but four years ago, when you did the meanest thing you've ever done to me. And you put Carson Wentz inside my brain and you knew what you were doing. Is there anything anything that you've heard this week? Maybe if you want to say Debo repeatedly to me to make me feel good about the chances of getting Debo Samuel. I could see them being interested in Debo Samuel. And I think that there is a market for Debo Samuel that's probably a little bit stronger than people thought it would be. And I think the 49ers are going to be able to trade him. Okay. What else are the 49ers going

to do? Cause it feels like they're a team in like heavy transition. They have to probably shed a couple other players. Who else is someone that you might, I mean, is Brock Purdy going to get signed? Are they going to let them play out the rest of this contract? Here's the issue. They're, they are in such a difficult cap situation that it's going to impact all sorts of things. So I think with Brock Purdy, here's the thing that people have to remember. He's got a year left on his deal. Right. And so the Niners can offer him a package

and say, here's what we're willing to do, whatever that is. And then is it going to be the Dak Prescott contract? It's not. I don't expect it to be. Right. Is it going to be a fair contract? I would think it would be.

They have to pay him. He's worthy and deserving of a big contract. But what is that deal? And that's going to be one of the questions. They've got so many financial issues and so many things they have to do and need to do, that you're not going to be able to pay Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott. You can find a deal for Brock Purdy, but, and I'm sure his agent wouldn't like this, but if Brock Purdy doesn't like that deal, like, I don't know how far the Niners can go. And then the Niners can just say, okay, guess what? We have your rights this year for 5 million. We could franchise tag you next year for 40 million. That's 45 million over the next two years that they have as contractual rights for. Is that fair?

No. Right. But that's the way it is right now. that they have as contractual rights for is that fair? No, right? But that's the way it is right now. Yeah. Yeah, and so it's a tough spot So there's a deal to be had for both sides. That's fair. But how do you work through that and figure it out dudes in general? I feel like teams don't use the franchise tag as often as Something is view it as a weapon and some teams would rather not do it and this year I don't know what the record is for Fewest number of players who are tagged, but this year we're looking at T Higgins Maybe that that might be the only one that we get no tree Murphy was thrown around

But that would be I think that she's Trey Smith. Yeah on on Kansas City buyer Murphy. Yeaher Murphy, Minnesota can't be tagged. Trace Smith maybe a transition tag, I don't think that happens, but you're not going to get more than at most two tags this year. So do you think that, because like the franchise tag, it does feel like teams, they use it as kind of a, hey, we could do this, but they don't use it very often. Do you think there's any way that when they get to the negotiating table, they get rid of the franchise tag or adjust it and change it? Well, here's the thing.

In the next couple of years, at some point in time, the NFL PA is going to have a chance to go to the bargaining table and the NFL is going to very badly want that 18th regular season game. It's already worked into the 2027 Super Bowl. 2027 has played on presence. Yeah. It's already worked into the 2027 to roll be 2027 is played on presence. Yeah, it's already there Yeah, because you know what's gonna happen here. What's gonna happen is they're gonna eventually I believe no matter How much the NFL PA is objected? I think that they're wise to say what they've done They get to an 18-game schedule and then the league can take a 12 14 16 game

International package and sell that. We heard this. I hate this idea. I'm just telling you. Can you tell the league not to do this? So the idea would be that there would be every single week there would be a standalone like 8, 9, 30 in the morning game. Maybe not every week, but plenty of weeks.

Can you tell them alternatively what they should do is they should do a hybrid of the college football model and have East Coast games start at noon, local time, and then there's another four games to kick off at 3 15, and then there's another two or three games to kick off at six o'clock and then Sunday night football at eight 30. That's what we want. We want there to be, there's no break in the football. You just have overlapping windows you have four windows and you don't have the 930 because that game it's just have you thought about throwing your name into the ring to succeed Roger Goodell when he decides to step down. Well, it's a real issue because on Sunday you wake up. We as football

fans have about like a three or four hour time span there where we can act like normal functioning adults. You can do some sort of chore, you can spend time with a family or with a dog, act like you are a real human being and then you sit down on the couch for you know nine hours non-stop. But when you take away that Sunday morning then it's just like oh I just I don't have Sundays. By the way like from my standpoint, we have the pregame show. They're not thinking about us. They're not thinking about you. Here's the thing. Nothing about like what Roger Goodell's got to understand.

He doesn't he doesn't understand gamblers. And if you the reason why college football like college football Saturday is more fun to bet on is because you have multiple time slot staggered, staggered because a lot of people, not naming names, myself, will load up on the first time slot and will be like, all right, if we can get some wins, then we're going to go to the next one. So you have people betting throughout the day

with only the two time slots. Listen, if he wants to bring me on as a special advisor for the General Gamblers, I'm more than welcome he should yeah clearly yeah there is the potential for that whole new window of international games another broadcast package to sell I think that's where it's gonna go he's not thinking about he's not thinking about you know what he's not thinking about he's not thinking about marriages and relationships in America because listen a couple a couple of the 9 30 games you can get away with being like,

Oh yeah, they're playing in Germany. They've never done this before. Every fucking Sunday. If I have to be at eight 30 in the morning in central time being like, Oh yeah, there's another game. He's pushing us to the brink. Like they added the Thursday night. There's Monday night. Now like Friday night last year. So I can't tell me times ago, I've said to my wife, there's a game tonight. Yeah. Which I love. I'm just saying the not like Friday night last year. So I can't tell you how many times I've said to my wife, there's a game tonight.

Yeah, which I love. I'm just saying the PFT is right. We all have like two or three hours on Sunday to get our brains ready to go, fired up, look at the board. You start a game early. Yeah, it's just so we can pretend to have a real life on Sunday. We don't have real life.

Walk the dog. Yeah, you get up. How many dogs, how many dogs, how many pets are going to die because Roger Goodell is going to insist on taking away all of her Sundays? I mean, I say to my wife every Sunday morning, it's like, don't worry, I got the kids till 11.

And I feel like a hero and she sees right through it and she's like, and then at 11? You know what else I don't want? I don't want the Super Bowl in London. No, that will American. I actually, Shafty, you better get that stopped. Well, if you succeed, Roger, you better be the man that gets it done. Big chat. There's a Super Bowl in London. We're going to be so fucking pissed.

We want a war so that we don't have to play a Super Bowl in London. Okay, we're not doing this. It's good. They're going to try to put it in though, right? That's that's one of the next ones Oh, they say there's no international Super Bowl on the horizon I think at some point in our lifetimes, I I think there'll be an enough. I hope he's right Yeah, but it doesn't sound like it's anytime soon enough is not good. Oh wants it so badly. All right, let's get some of the fun stuff Shafi New Year's Eve

2024 you send off a very nice in memoriam tweet where you honor those that we lost in the year 2024. How many different edits did you go through to figure out where to put OJ Simpson's name in the middle so that nobody saw that? I went back and forth and I'm like, I mean, I always I don't know what it is. But every year, I keep a file of people who lost their lives. Like I'm just fascinated by it. And I just

think that it's a way to pay respect to people who have lost their lives. And so I keep a running Do you have any notes on them? No. Okay, no, I literally have it on my computer at home. Yeah. And I add like a death file, like so Virginia McCasky is the first entrant in the death file for 2025. RIP. She's not the first one in this year. Oh, who was the first? I think my dog, Benny.

Oh, you fucking ass. RIP, Benny. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, sad to hear that. You just did that to me. Benny. Yeah. Yeah. Blake Stella. You just did that to me. Benny. Yeah.

Blake Stella. You understand, right? Yeah. Yeah. How old was Benny? Benny was 15 and Oh, that's awesome. And so Benny actually in dog years was older than Virginia McCasky. Benny. Yeah. He was pretty crazy. Yeah, we have an 18 year old at home who's blind and deaf. And we have another 15 year old that named Bailey that I had four months ago, the doctors recommended she she couldn't walk anymore. And the doctors recommended we put her down and she was so mentally alert and aware of my wife and we're not putting her down. And she's regained some of her

ability to walk. She kind of walks like a crab now. Like she craps in the household. She can't get out of time, but she's our dog. Stella had diagnosed with kidney disease when she was like 10 or 11. And one of the vets was like, yeah, she's probably got six months to a year. And she's, we're three years past that.

And it's like, once you get to the 13, 14, you're like, this has been an awesome run. And I know it's like once you get to the 1314 you're like this has been an awesome run I know it's it's sorry Betty Benny on February 23rd last year I was sitting at my kitchen table and he came hobbling in like he were like what the heck happens we watched the ring camera and he went to jump up to step in the back into our house and he missed it and he couldn't walk so I took him to the vet. They did some x-rays, didn't find anything, took him to another vet. They did an MRI

and they came out and they're like, he's got a torn ACL. Okay. And we also found cancer in his liver that spread to his lungs. And I said, you know, I mean, I'll never forget it. The doctor called us, I was with my wife for hysterical and like how long? He goes, I'd say two to three months and that was February 23rd. And he made it for almost a full year. The last conversation I had with Chris Mortenson, I called him because I was so distraught over Benny. I called him on a Thursday. Like I was broken up and then Mort passed away on Saturday, which was, or Sunday morning. You guys have dogs. Yeah. No, I know. Dogs are the best. They are the best. They are family, they're children. We have four now. We'll always have dogs, love dogs. The one I always think about is the quote Peter King had, even though he still owes us money,

he said that the only way to not feel the pain of a dog passing is to never own a dog. And what a sad life that would be. That's it. You can just not own a dog and then you didn't, but you don't get all the joy of it. RIP Benny, moment of silence for Benny. Thank you. Good dog. So why did you have OJ in that? Back to that.

Let me ask you, would you have left him out? Now he did have 2000 yards in the season, 14 games. And he did die. Separate the yard from the artist. He did die. Now on the other hand, he committed double murder. So I'm going to say. It's a toss up.

He was found not guilty, though, of double murder. But he did do that. Right. But he blocked me on Twitter. That's true. So yeah, no, I would leave him out. You leave him out because he wouldn't see. Right. But he blocked me on Twitter. That's true. So yeah, no, I would leave him out. You leave him out because he wouldn't see it anyways. He's got to be blocked.

Maybe a separate tweet being like, and also not rest in peace. You know what? The amazing thing is, is like, I'm like, the guy died. He did die. He had an accomplished life, good and bad. Yes. So he was, I didn't think anything of it. And then all of a sudden, like, Oh, controversy. Well, it was just that it was it was hidden in the

middle, which was the right move. If you're going to have it. Well, no way. Was it chronological? It's always sequential. Oh, it's always sequential. So what you should have done list, I take that list and I just post the list. I try to is your honor doesn't Yeah, yeah, I try to honor the people we lost. Here's what you should have done. Because this is a running bit with us. When like people say, you know, JJ Watts, such a better person than he is football player. We're like, no, he's not like he was one of the best football players ever. There's no way he's one of the best humans ever.

That's no offense to him. But you should have just said, OJ Simpson, significantly better football player than poor or I could have put OJ Simpson, asterisk. Yeah, maybe not dead. Asterisk. No, actually no, he's, yeah. Because I never asterisked anybody that lost their life in that year. So I could have asterisked any of the classifications

that you want. Maybe you do a separate post for the people who have died who were also murderers. Yeah, right. The asterisks could also be like OJ Simpson still like what would be like his war is still like plus one because he took two lives. KD ratio. Yeah. That's something like that. We can workshop it if that comes up. You know what I'll send this upcoming years was Aaron Hernandez in the in the end of the year oh how long have we been doing this this death file is you know what I used to be able to do it it would you know what Instagram you could post as many names as you want right mm-hmm so Twitter I think there was a limit yeah and what

year was Aaron Hernandez it would have been roughly 2000 years ago long time ago yeah I was posting names back then but I had not had the death we have we And what year was Aaron Hernandez? It would have been roughly 2012 years ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago. Yeah, I don't know. I was posting names back then. But it had not had the death file. We avoided the issue back then. The other thing I really wanted to bring up with you about, you know, some year and some small missteps. I feel like it was a pretty clean year for you overall.

Yeah. Were you illegally streaming the Jets-Texans game on meth streams? You know what's amazing about that? Good question, PFT. Is that, I believe it was the Malachi-Courley play, correct? Where he fumbled? Yep. Okay. So, I had this app where you could take the video,

put it in there and get the video. And in this particular play, I kept waiting for the NFL to post the video right away. And it took a long time. It wasn't posting. So I'm looking, I'm looking, I see the video. Unmatched dreams. Actually, I'm thinking the sequence now. I used to do it that way. And then field Yates, who now we're gonna have to blame.

We're throwing field under the bus. Yeah, absolutely. He said have to, let me show you something. If you just press. Yeah, it's very easy. Press. Well, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think which came first. Not even press download, but just press post video. Yeah. That's what happened. Field show me after the fact. Okay. This is a long answer for just you watching Messstream. Are you in you edit this answer and make it more succinct? I'm not used to speaking this much at a time. Okay, now I have the sequence.

So I see it, I'm waiting for the NFL to post it. It doesn't post it. I finally see somebody post it. I copy the link. I put it in the app. I get the video. I post it. And the next thing I know,

I'm getting besieged with messages about meth. Meth streams, yeah. Meth streams. Meth streams, it was a refuge for those of us that didn't want to pay for all the different packages you have to do, and now they shut down. They shut it down because you blew it up. People blame me for shutting down.

You made the block hot. I like to think that journalists are crusaders, and we're here to right the wrongs in the world And so there are a lot of people that were illegally streaming on meth and they shouldn't be on meth anyway Nobody should be on meth You ruined it, you took away a great website Within my powers I took it to squash meth which to this day I get pissed off messages in my DM sometimes Yeah, you should, you ruined it, you ruined it

You ruined it, you ruined it, you're a. But I feel like I'm trying to help people that they shouldn't be on meth. Yeah, you're a narc. People shouldn't be on meth. But the great part was the next day, I'm seeing people, they're like, Adam Schefter's trying to find ways around paying the 8.99 Amazon.

Like, hey, can I tell you something? Can I take one of my wife orders from Amazon? Like five, six times a day? 899 I mean that is just laughable I'm trying to find and I I am so far from being equipped or smart enough to figure out a go-around to avoid like but really it's field Yates fault. Yeah Afterwards afterwards field the H and let me just show you how to do something All you do is press down the video,

it credits the people, and then you can just post the video. So field deserves credit for that. I wish he had shown it to me before I could actually be the one responsible for taking down meth. He thinks the lady Doth protested. Yeah, I think you were doing some meth. You were on meth.

You strike me as a meth guy. You don't sleep much. I never knew any of this existed until after the fact when I'm getting all these text messages. This is a lot of... I think it's breaking badum. I think that's what it is. I think that you are... you get a problem. We'll get back to Adam Schefter in a second. He's brought to you by Chevy. Our great friends at Chevy would like you to know that they have packed more capability into the Silverado Trail Boss. More capability than ever. You can pack more fun packed more capability into the Silverado Trail Boss. More capability than ever. You can pack more fun into your weekend with the Silverado Trail Boss.

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No, I did. You did last year. I did. I did do it. Didn't do it this year. You did? Oh, oh. You were first? Well, I can last year. I did do it. Didn't do this year. You did? Oh. You were first? Well, I could say this. I think that time-honored tradition is dead.

I think I'm not doing it ever again. OK. So you are washed. No. Well, younger Adam Schefter would be like, if there's a scoop, I'm going to get it. We evolve over time. OK.

We evolve. OK. And so I've done it enough that there was a posting about this, like there was meth, like there is with seemingly many things that I do with my life about how Adam Schifft reposted about the groundhog day again. Like I thought people kind of liked it. I thought it's, I think it's always interesting. Well, I think it's, it speaks to your addiction to scoops. And I like that about you where like, is there any scoop you wouldn't take. Because I kind of enjoy when you like drop a random NBA scoop or a rat sees his shadow

in Western Pennsylvania. Like that's, so there's someone out there being like, Shifty got me again. Like this was my fucking- I love information. I love anything that's like, whoa, I didn't know this. Right, so anything like that, whatever it's related to, I'm in.

Love that about you. But I think I'm getting out of the Punks to Tawny Phil business. So you guys got the story first here. I think we're out of that business. We're not doing anything. Breaking news. Breaking news.

Punks to Tawny Phil will not be seeing his shadow from me anymore. Yeah, I just feel like this is you getting out because other people were getting the scoops ahead of time. Like you got bullied out of the groundhog space. That's true too. If you can't win, you quit? Is that what people are saying?

I just think that like I said, you know, you know when the space is becoming crowded, right? And so when everybody's weighing in on punks of Tony Phil, it's time for you to go find the next Avenue to explore Yeah, okay. Um, you want to talk more NFL right now? Yeah, like what's going on in those are the fun topics You got from the contra. No Alright, so when the Luca trade happened, you said that for an NFL comparison, this is like Lamar Jackson plus for Joe Burrow plus. And I thought that you made it seem like there were streaming services. You put like the little plus sign next to it. I don't know if that's a great comparison. You know what? Here's what happened.

You know what? Here's what happened. You might be right. To me, and I am a big NBA fan, like it's a huge trade. Huge. And so you're talking about a veteran and a younger superstar, a guy who's won championships, a guy who I think will win championships. It's just a colossal trade. I was just trying to think of two stars. Probably a better analogy, like literally I was asleep when Shams broke it. So like, I'm thinking like, what is this? Like, I've never seen anything like this. I came up with that. Some people didn't like it. Okay. Again, upon further reflection, maybe it would be like, Dak Prescott for Justin Herbert. Maybe that would be a better one. I don't know. I think the Joe Burrow for Matt Stafford was a...

Yeah, that's a good one. ...decent one where it's like the age, like it's, you know, if the Davis isn't bad... It's just fun to wonder about it. Like, there's no right or wrong. Like that was something that came to me as I woke up in bed, as I'm laying in bed. It was the first Saturday night where I said, I don't have to check on any injuries here for the first time since Labor Day. And I dozed off for a, I wake up, I said, I'm like, what the hell is this?

Like everybody else. And that's what came to me at that moment. Sorry to offend it as many people as it did. No, thank you for your apology. Thank you. Appreciate your apology. But I appreciate the fact that you said it. One other fun one.

Do you think you should get any credit for dunking on Doug Gottlieb because that's like this isn't a high joke That's like talking on like a five-foot rim. Everyone can dunk on Doug Gottlieb you know He texted me after the fact and When he texted after that I Started rooting for Wisconsin Green Bay. It was a rough year rooting for them. No, they're bad. They're really bad.

It was a rough year. But I even debated, actually, I tried to go to one of the games and I went through Chicago. The good part was it was like before the Super Bowl. And so I was going to Wisconsin Green Bay, I came through Chicago and I didn't have any clothes. The airlines lost my bags. So I was going through Chicago and I found these two duffel bags and was able to drive by, pick up a couple duffel bags, got a bunch of clothes, got some great jump shoots right now.

Worked out pretty well. Yeah. Rooting for Wisconsin Green Bay. You did get them good. He said it was a story about Sacramento State raising 50 million in NIL. By the way, like the athletic director told me that. Right.

So like he comes, like, he responded to that. But is the athletic director told me that right so like he comes like what he responds to that was the athletic director telling you that is that not like a stripper saying like I really like you Adam maybe so yeah but the athletic director said he did say it he's athletic director he said we had 50 million which people were like hey that's not right okay take it up with him yeah take it with him yeah so golly said Jesus chef the edit what agents tell you 0.0% chance Sacramento State Sacramento State And you said and Jesus Doug a seven game losing streak and last place in the Horizon League less time on social media more time

In the gym got him by the way like and then they went on to lose like 14 more games in a row to update in 2021. Here's the deal. I try never to clap back. I don't like that. But when people post factually incorrect information, like clean up with the agent, like, no like no no I was talking to the athletic director right this is what he said right what do you want me to do right okay that's fair yeah source off you I think you want the source off but big gets kind of right yeah Doug Gottlieb come on like take it easy everyone is going to t-ball he's been through enough yeah we can all take take hacks it's a guy we got a news breaking right? Oh, what do you got? Yeah, don't try to don't do this to us Don't fake us. Remember when you faked me out actually big news. Yeah. Yeah ESPN is resigned Laura relish to a big deal You didn't get that scoop. I think that scoop that's you but you know what Laura relish is a rock star. Yeah, we like Laura She's fantastic. Yes, She deserves everything she gets.

And I'm very happy to see that. Agree. All right. Disappointed I didn't get it, but that's the way it goes. Yeah, I was wondering if that was going to be Matt Stafford news. Where's where? Gun to your head. Matt Stafford's next team. Max. Oh, I don't like. Oh, first I don't like having guns pointed at my head. A lot of guns. Pug. Get the guns up. Che.

Where's he playing, Adam? Makes me very nervous. Where's he playing, Adam? Che's refusing to put the guns to my head. A lot of guns. Pug, get the guns up, Che. Where's he playing, Adam? Makes me very nervous. Where's he playing, Adam? Che's refusing to put the guns to chapter 10. He just, I said Che, and he just goes, no, no, no way. Where's he playing? I really don't know right now, because it's kind of a coin flip kind of thing. You're dead. That was a bad answer.

Well, like, so we believe that he's probably going to either the Giants or probably re-sign with the Rams. Those are the two plausible scenarios. Okay. I think the Raiders are out there lurking as well. Okay. I think those would be the three scenarios that make sense. And honestly, I think it changes on a fairly regular basis. So that's why I don't want to predict, Hey, he's going to restart with the Rams. And all of a sudden, but lo and behold, there he is traded to one of those other two teams, or he's gonna be traded. And lo and behold, he decides to go back to the room because these things change all the time. Right. All right. So what about Aaron Rodgers? Is he going to play football?

Let's start there. I think he's going to play. He's going to play. And I think he has something to prove in his own mind. And I think there's going to be a chip on his shoulder. And we know what that guy's like with a chip on his shoulder. And I think you have to wait for Matthew Stafford to see where he goes before we could figure out where Aaron Rogers is going to go. Because I think once Matthew Stafford's situation is settled then Aaron Rodgers gets to follow us. Okay so if Rodgers if Stafford signs with the Giants it sounds like you're saying Rodgers to the Rams. I definitely could see that happening. Okay so let me throw out a couple team

names you can be like no chance or yeah that could happen. So Rams you said that you could see that happening. Raiders? I could see it happening. Steelers? I could see it happening. Titans? Don't see that happening. Colts? Don't see that happening.

Browns? Don't see that happening. Giants? Could see that happening. Okay, interesting. So I give you four teams that I could see, right? Yeah, but he's definitely playing. I believe he's gonna play, yes.

Yeah, and Kelsey's could see, right? Yeah. But he's definitely playing. I believe he's going to play. Yeah. And Kelsey's coming back, right? He is training and preparing as if he's going to come back. What you never know. What if Marvel Studios comes and says, Hey, we want you like, we need more Kelsey. Yeah. But he's preparing and planning to come back. Plans change. But yes, they think he's going to be back. I think he thinks he's gonna be back, but I'm not a comic book guy are there is there a role that Marvel would be looking at and be like, this is Kelsey Well, I could see him do it like he's such a big personality and so charismatic like he could do anything he wants Yeah, if they want to turn him into some movie star, right they want to turn into the next rock Yeah, couldn't you see that I could see that. Yeah, I would

like I mean, I would like to see him retire and and try to play on 11 level playing field podcasting wise with us because we're not in the NFL. We retired long ago. Their podcast. They make a lot more money than you guys, right? I know you guys know well, but they they've really done well. They sold out. Appreciate it. Their corporate stooge is owned by Jeff Bezos, not us. The problem is I don't know who we could say that about for Chef T. Steve A. Smith.

Steve A. Smith. Oh yeah. He makes significantly more money than you, right Chef T? Absolutely. Yeah. And deserves to. I'm okay with that. But for my podcast, I've never made any money for my podcast.

Yeah. So you guys changed the name. You guys have made far more money than I have in my podcast. We have. We've made a very good living. Um, but your regulations, they've done well. Thank you. Turn 40 years old. Yeah. To hit it the way you guys have. Yeah. That's pretty good. There's left in us. Pretty good. Yeah. You, you, you might not have any jumpsuits where you've had a lot of success. Well, they all get stolen. Yeah. No, it's it's been it's been a wild ride. But the Kelsey's, they do need to quit it with the antics and just,

you know, get on as two normal guys doing a podcast. Yes, they can do it. I don't know if they can. I don't think they can. I mean, the level of success that they've achieved with that is incredible. All right. Let's not. I mean, we're we're higher. So you do you guys. Not fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean, if you go to the most famous person in the world, it's pretty easy to get their listens. They launched a podcast. He started dating

Taylor Swift and they played in a Super Bowl against each other. Try to try to try to do that on a, you know, pick pick us up one on one in the middle of August when we're debating, you know, the color of yellow cheese or of American cheese. Yeah. See us there. Yeah, they couldn't pull that off. They're playing from the red tees. Yeah. We're back on the championship tees.

Exactly. And you guys have played like champions. Yes, we have played like champions. Thank you, sir. All right, so, Roger. I've seen PFT drive 400 yards. Yeah, he's got it. You have seen that?

Yeah. Also, thank you for the Christmas presents or for the holiday presents. That's understandable. Yep. Incredible, as always. I don't know how you for the Christmas presents or for the holiday presentable. Yep. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. Always. I don't know how you get the blankets to smell nice too. That's we do that. We take care of it. Full service. It's smells. It's Blake's favorite place to lay. It's my dog's

favorite blanket. You know what? My wife got those blankets like in dog beds. Like they're unbelievable. They're very soft. Yeah. What? Um, so we did Rogers. They're very soft. Yeah. So we did Rogers. We did Stafford. What about Sam Donald? I think when I see Quasi Dalfo Mensa, their GM of the Vikings, talked the way he did in such glowing terms about JJ McCarthy to me. That says like, okay, they're setting it up for JJ to be the guy.

Yeah, that's what it seems like. I think that like they would like Sam back, but they'd like Sam back at their number. And so again, where's Matthew Stafford going? Is he going to the Rams? Is he going to the Raiders? Is he going to the Giants? Because I think if he doesn't wind up with the

Raiders, I think Sam Darnold potentially could come into play with the Raiders. I could see that happening. You need the domino of Stafford to fall to begin to place the other quarterback chess pieces. But Sam Darnold, I think he'll do well. But to me, it feels like Minnesota is shaping up to be J.J. McCarthy and we'll see what here happens here in the next couple of weeks.

Yeah. All right. What about Cleveland? What can Cleveland do at the quarterback position? To me, they have to draft a quarterback with their first pick, which I assume to be two, but maybe they go up to one to lock it in the guy they want. They're not very far from the top and Tennessee could go back one slot and get basically whoever they want if they're not going to go quarterback. And the Titans are still going through their process. They've spoken to teams and told them, we're interested in talking, but we need to get through our process first,

go through the combine, go through pro days before they derive their decision about what they're going to do at one. Cleveland, to me, I predict it'll be a quarterback period. I think they have to do quarterback. They're that high, they're that financially strapped with the Sean Watson. There's that much of a need. You need something to uplift the spirits of the organization. I believe the Browns go quarterback. Okay. All right. Okay. What's the story that you've got, maybe not a prediction, but like

something that we don't see coming? You're usually good at that or like something to just say Here's a tickler file. This guy might you know not play forever or this guy this coach Anything on the horizon a league rule. Oh Is the tush push gonna get banned? I don't think so. Okay. How do you bend that? I think it seems like. It just seems like, okay, so you can't push the tush. By the way, their success rate in that play is, what is it? 92%. So if we take away, you can't touch his tush and Jalen Hurts is still sneaking behind Mackay

Beckton and Jordan Milata and Lane Johnson. Like, don't you think he's still going to succeed on that play 75% of the time? So I don't know what we're talking about. And by the way, what about the plays where the running backs in the open field and all of a sudden people are pushing him? What about the plays with a wide receiver, tight end, catch the pass and they're being, that's not a lot either. Right.

Cause we're not allowed to push anybody anymore. Is the quarterback sneak now banned or it's just banned where you just can't touch the guy. I look, I've heard more opposition to it this week than I thought I would, but I don't know that there's a way to legislate it out of the game right now. Yeah. Interesting. All right.

So what's going on with Tom Brady and the Raiders? How active is he? He's been active. Is he like calling shots out there? His voice is being heard. I don't know that he's the final guy, but I think that Tom has a lot of say there and he should. He's smart, hardworking, bright guy. I think that they brought him in for a reason and he's been involved in all this.

Do we care at all about the ethics of Tom Brady owning a team and then also participating? I think it's crazy. OK. So by the way, so he can't go to practice to watch what the chiefs are doing when he could watch it on tape. You don't think that Tom Brady is smart to go back and look at the tape. If they are in production meetings,

I would hope and think that if you are uncomfortable, if you are the chiefs or Broncos or chargers and you're uncomfortable that Tom Brady is broadcast then then don't Give all the information to withhold what you need to withhold right or say Tom You can't come in the meeting right like Tom still they're not hiring him to be I'm a reporter Tom Brady has played this game at a high level for a long time They hired him because he has done things,

seen things, been through things that none of us ever have. That's what he's supposed to be bringing to the game. So if they never allow him in a production meeting and never allow him in a practice, to me that doesn't matter in the way that Tom Brady's doing his job. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, all right, so we talked about the 18 game.

Is there ever gonna be a chance for a double buy? Because I feel like or is that no chance to buys? I think I think that'd be a part of 18 games. By the way, if I were the NFL or the NFL PA and I'm coming to the players, we know how much the players don't want to play an 18th game. And I understand why that would be the case. But if I'm asking you, you guys played in the NFL and I said to you, would you rather have a 17 game season with one buy or an 18 game season with two buys? What would you rather have? I'd rather have the two buys. But also I would play for free. I would too. Cause I care so much.

I'd actually pay them. Well, I'd pay them to be able to play. But I think the double buy, I like the double buy. Double buy 18 games and I know you guys are doing it for free but there's gonna be a lot more money. A lot more money involved. Because we can now sell the extra TV package, right? So, okay, I'll take the extra buy, the extra money.

And then, and by the way, football could always do load management like basketball. No, we don't want to. I've always thought that the solution of the double buy is there just needs to be a universal buy where college football has their playoff now. So whatever it is, early December, every team's on a buy. And then you have college football games on that Sunday.

And also you give everyone a chance to do their Christmas shopping, like, you know, check in and be like like like the universal buy a Check in with everyone kind of reset the whole world for the home stretch Well, it's sort of like the NBA does for the all-star break that the sport shuts down for basically a week Yeah, right. I think the game. Yeah, I mean I think you're talking about taking that I don't like when they made does that I kind of like as a guy who plays fantasy basketball loves it I kind of miss it. How'd plays fantasy basketball loves it. I kind of

miss it. How'd you do this year? Or how are you doing? I'm in second place. But my team it's kind of hammond egg. How'd you do in fantasy football this year? I lost in the opening round of the playoffs. Oh, great regular season. brutal. Yeah. Are you interested in potentially taking on another team not as a day to day, but more in a ownership role where you would oversee the day-to-day manager. In fantasy?

Yeah. I think I'm as much fantasied out as I can be. I allow it to consume my thoughts and dictate my moods way more than it should. You would just have to manage a person managing the team. I know. I don't want to do that. Jerry O'Connell is the person we're talking about. We're looking to fill a role where he needs someone kind of holding his hand. It's almost like so he

knows that somebody's watching him. Right. We really want to strike fear. I do that with a lot of people already. Yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of people that reach out like constantly texting. Yeah we would like to we want to figure out a way to add more bureaucratic red tape to our fantasy operation where we just have multiple layers of managers. Would you be interested? Probably not. Sly you into that middle management role. I'm not I don't I don't like middle managing.

I don't like bureaucracy. I kind of want to do this just because Jerry would text Schaft or not. Can we just can we just say I got certain guys that already do that? Yeah, here's here's the deal. What if we just it requires no work on your part. You just accept the title as in title only. Yes, in title only in title only five governing owner. Okay, that's fine. Governing owner of Jerry O'Connell. We're the we're the principal owners of the operation. So we're a top of you. You're fronting it. We're Yeah, we're on top of of you We front the money, but you will be the governing owner in name only of Jerry O'Connell figure it And is there anything for me to gain but yeah Like immortality if we win and also just power spot on the wall of fame

Listen, I'll tell you this if if we win the fantasy league this year when we do the trophy presentation PFT I obviously will hold the trophy first, you'll hold the trophy second, then Jerry O'Connell. That sounds very making. Yeah, I mean, really what you get out of it, aside from the trophy potentially is, you get power over Jerry O'Connell, which means that you can fire him at any given time.

You don't have to do anything, but if you wake up one day and you're like, it's time for a change, we gotta shake things up in the locker room. And that way, when Jerry gets mad at us that he got fired, like, wasn't us, it was Shefty. Yeah, blame me. Yeah.

Everybody else does. Exactly. Yeah, speaking of that, how mad are Chiefs fans at you? You know, I didn't get that either. So explain what happened, how it all went down. The story was, they're expanding replay assist to include slides. I remember writing the story and being like, they're expanding replay assist to include slides. I remember writing the story and being like, OK, well, what does this mean?

Like, like this slide of Patrick Holmes, it wasn't directed. I don't care. Like, I don't feel like there's some vendetta. I wasn't trying to stir up anything. And all of a sudden, I got people going nuts about that. That was not my intent. I didn't like that it became that and was unfortunate the whole thing. What fan base hates you the most? It depends on the time that there was

a time when I mean we could go through this there have been various fan bases that have hated me at various points. What's the worst it's gotten with a fan base? You know, again, two weeks ago it would have been Kansas City. Aaron Rodgers, when he was the Packers, it was Green Bay. Like it's just whatever's in the news. It's whatever's in the news at that time. The Jets, did the Jets hate you this year? I don't think so. Maybe unless you know something I don't know.

No, he's shaking his head. He's clean. No, he's clean. He's not a Florio? Yeah. Yeah. It's just, you know, you're not going gonna be able to please all the people all the time Sometimes when you deliver bad news, they do shoot the mess. I I always shoot I try to deliver literally

black and white factual information OJ Simpson died What about this name for potentially being on the move Max Crosby? Hmm, I Don't Think they'll part ways with a guy like that. That means so much to their city. That's so important Especially with the way that Mark Davis has felt about him But we've got a whole slew of defensive ends here who are going to get paid this offseason. Like you got TJ Watt, maybe Miles Garrett, Cleveland or somewhere else. You've got

Trey Hendrickson who's got to get paid. There are a whole host of defensive ends that are going to get paid a lot of money. So I'm sure the Raiders are preparing to sign Max Crosby to a lucrative extension that he deserves. But if they're not, then they should look to the element. By the way, they're rebuilding, although I'm sure they don't feel that way. He would be the most valuable chip that they have. That guy's an unbelievable player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One more gun to your head. Oh, God damn. Get him up. Next quarterback. I feel like I'm in Landman. Get him up. Next quarterback, Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, I love the sound guy, yes. Get in there.

Yeah. Fuck yes. Get him memes. Get it. Scan the room. We got it. Do I have to answer with my hands up? Yes.

Pittsburgh Steelers next quarterback. Steelers next quarterback? Yeah. Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. No way. All right. They're staying put. Really? One of them will be back.

All right. One of them I expect to be back. Which one? Russell Wilson. OK. Sussy for Russell. Russell's back. They're sussying for Russell.

OK. What about James Winston? What's the market expected to look like for James Winston? I'd want him on my team. Yeah. Seven days of seven days. Yeah I Don't know where he's gonna wind up going but boy that guy is he's fun. Yeah, somebody very has a lot of fun

He's a lot of fun. All right. I got one last question. This has been so much fun We love having you on chef day every year and I'm excited to get that phone. We need that phone every year and I'm excited to get that phone. We need that phone. Rowback question, rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. What is Shafty doing for vacation this year? You deserve a vacation. What are you doing? When is it happening? What are you doing? No vacation? Come on. We have zero planned. Ah, come on. You know, it's always nice after the draft, when you enter a quiet period,

there always is going to be something. And as I say with the NFL, whatever happens on May 4th or May 18th, the schedule release, that becomes the biggest thing. And when there's nothing else to talk about and there's that one thing that happens that day, some player signs an extension, some player gets cut, some player gets in trouble, that becomes the biggest thing

because that's how everything is with the NFL. And there's always something. And I just feel like the job is, even at that time, you're always on alert. You're always on guard. So vacation, I will say this I'd love to go on a vacation where you could disconnect and turn everything off I haven't done that in my adult life.

Why don't you do it we'll handle it. We'll just take your phone. By the way if I give you the phone. Yeah, then I could we could give you the active phone next to the handle it. We wouldn't mess up your career too bad. No, just a little bit. But no vacations planned. Okay. Zero, my kids have been after me.

My kids really wanna go to Italy. Really. Take them to Italy. You know what, I was talking to this guy last summer and he's like, he was turning 70. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm renting a house in Italy for a month. And I'm inviting my friends and some of my family.

Anybody who wants to come can come. Anybody who doesn't, doesn't have to. And I thought, that's a really cool idea. My kids want to do that. Would we get the invite? Well, in a couple of years, I'll be 60. Yeah. 58.

Yeah. So you guys- Would you get the invite? If we do that- I can't make it, I'll be 60. Yeah. 58. Yeah. So you guys- We'd get the invite? If we do that, if I- I can't make it, but I would love the invite. I would stop in. Yeah. By the way, like- I'd save the entire month.

You have to kick me out of the master's. There was a good time for this. Yeah. There was a good time for this. Like my daughter will be finishing high school. Yeah. My ESPN contract will be up. I'll be 60.

Mm-hmm. So maybe we just- Yeah. Shut it all out. Yeah. Did you think about that at all with Wode retiring? Like that had to have crossed your mind. Listen, I have so much respect for what he did. My wife would never let me do the same thing.

Okay. Become athletic director at Michigan? Yeah, that day when he did that, I got 20 techs. Like, are you taking the GM job at Michigan? There's a whole new industry now. Yeah, there's a whole new world out there of GMs in college. And listen, I, I love woach. He's one of my dear friends. When we talked about him doing this. Yeah, I did my best initially to say, Hey, just think of the other side. Think about this.

Do one more year. He was done. It's good for him. I respect the house. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Also, it's, and people was like, oh, you think a couple of people, you think Woj was sorry he wasn't working for the Luka trade?

I'm like, Woj couldn't give a crap. That's on. He didn't work on the Luka trade. My dream scenario is that he got the text for the for the Luca trade. He got on his phone. He looked at it and he goes, that's the old me. He has his phone threw it away like threw it into the ocean. Oh, I forgot Che you got some questions. Also, Shafi, you look good for 58. You do. Thank you. You're look you might be daddy is Shaf or daddy. Chetor might be daddy. What does that mean? When you know your dad. Well, this is age, you're gonna get the first 60 years

of being someone who's maybe not tall, I would say, might not be the best, but then as you get older, small dogs live a long time. Yeah, and you do shrink over time. Right, so you, yeah. I don't have much to shrink from. You'll be in our back pocket in 20 years. Carrying you around. Before Che, Memes does have one question for you that I'll ask. I don't have much to string from you'll be like in our back pocket in 20 years

Before Che memes does have one question for you that I'll ask are the Jets gonna trade up to one or two Were they seven are the seven memes yeah, there's seven I Don't see them going to one or two there They got holes to address and that it would take a lot to get up there. I look could it happen sure Mm-hmm. I haven't heard that today. Let's see what happens. Meme is happening. Okay, do you want them to try to one? No, he just had you kill a bunch of rumors though. Yeah,

apparently, tons of rumors. I kill meth. rumors. Yeah. No, J Simpson. Okay, check this a lot of people today. That's actually perfect segue. We're taking this Wednesday. This is not gonna be a perfect segue. We're taking this Wednesday before the on field drill starts Is there there are four guys kind of at the top of the draft?

Kim Ward Abdul Carter Travis Hunter should or Sanders is there anyone that's either here or you know sitting at home doing produce You and that could see a tray von Walker type rise to the top pick You know what? I'm not and that could see a Trayvon Walker type rise to the top pick. You know what? I'm not smart enough to answer that right now. OK. Because I'm just not living in that world. Field Yates would answer that question and be spot on.

But I couldn't answer that today because I just don't know. All right, that's fair. I'll replace it with this question. Bad question. It was a good segue. Yeah, great segue, but bad question. We talked a lot about quarterbacks. Is there any world where Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback? Yes Yes, yes. Yes. In fact, I've actually had his name come up with head coaches. I've spoken to whoa

so like I'm like, oh so You know, what if you know, you can't get that, Daniel Jones, I've heard the name. So I think there's a market for him. I also think that if Sam Darnall leaves, Minnesota would be a natural spot for him to be. And I think that's part of the reason the Vikings brought him in. But is there a scenario where he could wind up

as a starter? I think there is. Can you tell us what division those coaches have been in? It was one coach. It was one coach. It was just one coach. Just brought it up. And it was that team? It was what team? Was it the Vikings? No. No. What conference? What color? What conference was the team? Conference in color? It was the National Football League. Okay, one more question. Yes. So we just had I don't know what Davies are hearing but Liam Cohen was in yesterday. So James Gladstone. By the way,

did you when Liam was in here? Yeah, I gave him the business. Do you get after him at all or nothing? Oh, yes. He didn't give him the business. What you said what you said him. How dare he? I did not like the way that went down personally. We kind of, we made amends. My feelings were hurt. You got his feelings hurt.

But I understand the pay differences, astronomical, and he wanted to be head coach and I get it. Listen, we all agree with that. You get only so many chances to get one of those jobs. One of 32. Yep. A salary of eight figures. You can't turn that down, right? But you know, everyone went over. He just told him, I'm going to talk to him. Right. So James Gladstone, the hire this week actually, 34 years old in Jacksonville. Who's to say what's going to happen if he succeeds and if Liam Cohen succeeds?

How does this do you see this mapping a giant ripple effect in the NFL front offices? Like, are they going to start hiring young guys now? Because he's a mainly analytical guy. I understand. You might have a Jaguars obsession. Well, when I heard him talking, you guys met him, I still haven't spoken with him in person. I've texted him, but like he's talking about revolution. He uses words that I haven't heard GM use. Yeah. And very new age, very 2025. I think that if

whatever he does works, I think it would open up the idea That people would be more open to hiring younger GM's just like when Sean McVeigh came in He was hired at the age of 31 I believe and all of a sudden it became acceptable to hire a very young head coach But there's only so many Sean McVeigh's and if James Gladstone succeeds there aren't that many people that age who can step into a job of that magnitude and handle it as adeptly as he would if he's succeeding like you're saying he's going to. Good question. It's like Doge but for front office.

Two guys rumored to be on the move. Would just love to hear potential landing spots. You could see these guys. Khalil Mack, Debo Samuel. Khalil Mack, the Chargers are definitely trying to get back. And the interesting part about that is I think after everybody saw the success that the Eagles had in the Super Bowl and with the salary cap taking a bigger jump than people expected, the pass rushers like Josh Sweat like Khalil Mack even Milton Williams inside and I'm gonna see if I say his name right Osa Igedo Iged the

guy in Dallas I was Digizua I do a Digizua I was that Digizua I think these guys are gonna get more money than people are expecting. And I think the Eagles helped make the pass rushers more money in this free agent market. The Chargers are going to work to get back Khalil Mack. There's a question about whether they'll be able to keep Joey Bosa. They were in this spot last year. I can't imagine you're going to lose both guys. We'll see how that works out with them. And then- Debo.

Debo. Like I said, the one thing I could say on Debo is I think there's been more interest than people thought there would be. And I know that I've seen it out there that the Niners would have to release him because of the cap situation and designate him a June 1. I don't agree with that. I think they're going to be able to trade him. Okay. Good job, Ryan. Cooper Cup. I think unbelievable wide receiver, aging, older right now. he's filling time no no I could see I'm trying to think I want to answer this right yeah you're filling time you know I could see a cool name to say good beard did that our breakfast club with

Matthew Stafford really hard worker. Great story. Yeah. White. Yeah. Yeah. He is. Very white. He is. Yeah. Good at basketball. That's confirmed. Yeah. Yeah. What else can you say about the guy? Yeah. He could be on the move. He's going to be on the move. Triple crown. Again, I think the Rams are going to hope to trade him. I think the salary and the numbers are an issue. And I think that's why I'm kind of parsing my words, because the question is, is somebody going to trade for that contract? They're going to redo it. What's the contract going to look at? I think there are absolutely teams out there that want Cooper Cup. The question is, how much are those teams willing to spend on Cooper Cup? And that's really the issue here right now.

He's going to have a new home. He's going have a new home. He's gonna have suitors. He's gonna have interest. The question is, what is the price gonna be? Okay, can you just do something to get me and Big Cat excited and just tell us what players are fun transactions, the Bears and the commanders should find themselves involved in the next week?

Who are the names that we should be looking at? Well, Bears, definitely offensively gonna I mean, they're definitely an upgrade the offensive line done. Don't know who that's going to be just yet. But they're going to be upgrading there. The commander is like, they're in a spot where they can go strengthen this, they're going to be looking for a pass rusher. They're going to be looking for a wide receiver. I think that they'll find a way to add both at some point here.

And Jayden Daniels, wow. Wow. He's special. He's good. Let me tell you something. He's so good. And the amazing thing is, like, as I always say, people in this business, people get it and people don't get it.

Jayden Daniels gets it. He gets it. He gets it. Like that guy is on it. I happened to be around him at the Super Bowl, came over, I was really impressed with that guy. He gets it. Special. He is. He's shifty. PFT set. He is. He is. Next 14 to 16 years. 14 to 16 years. He had one great season. I love that. He's popped the brakes just a little bit. You know what? I do love him.. He had one great season. I love that. Puff the brakes just a little bit. You know what? I do love him.

I am in love with him. I go back to what somebody in that organization told me was like 10, 12 games into the season. I go, this quarterback, this quarterback covers up a lot of the sins of the organization. Yes. Not everybody's at his level. And the rest of the team is OK.

Yeah. There's some holes, though. It's a decent team, but the quarterback is exceptional and because he's exceptional, everybody else gets elevated. Great quarterback, yeah. Right. All right, Chef, you're the best.

Thank you as always. Wow. Yeah. That's it, huh? Yeah, you had a good year. We had a good year. Not a lot of problems. Yeah, there was some stuff.

We had some stuff. Yeah, we had some stuff, but not a lot of problems. And I do want that phone. We need that phone. Done, it's on the wall of fame. Yes. The first wall of fame that I'm ever gonna be on. Yeah, we had some stuff, but not a lot of problems. And I do want that phone. We need that phone. Done. It's on the Wall of Fame. Yes. The first Wall of Fame that I'm ever going to be on.

Yes. High school Wall of Fame. Yes. I'm in. Sign me up. All right. Thanks so much, Shepty. Thank you, guys.

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in name only to be ahead of, on top of Jerry O'Connell in the organization chart. In name only. In terms of just the ability to fire Jerry. Jerry would not have to talk to Adam, which he should if he was smart, he would use him as a resource. So it would be in name only.

Is he a direct report to Adam Schefter? I think he would have to direct a report. Jerry doesn't realize we Having chef t be part of the organization would be incredible you Jerry has no problem texting anyone at any time He could text you do what the kid it sounds like. Yeah Yeah, but shifty, but that came out of no early. Yes unnecessarily on the table, right? The kids aren't involved in this exactly Okay, fire fest the week Hank Not much this week more just a follow-up from last week. I got I got I got got by the toll toll scam Yeah, I got I which has proceeded to

Essentially happen nationwide across the country. I got a text it to me. I have gotten some of them Like it seems like everyone in the world has got send this text because I've gotten sent You know the text from a million people being like look I got it, too I got it, too I got a lot of AWS being like I got it, too But some of them are coming from hotmail accounts mm-hmm which makes mine look so much worse Because it's like how did you get got by a hotmail account mine was texted from a real phone number at least you got got By a much much more believable text. What was the phone number because I got the time it was kind of a random phone

I don't I was I saw it and I was like I cannot believe Hank fell for this It was there was it was in the middle. It was like it was in the middle of day I was just kind of like we had 20 minutes downtime I got the text and I just was like alright. Let me take care of business real quick It was still bad, but it wasn't a Hotmail account. But the amount of people that have gotten texts from Hotmail accounts and are hitting me up being like, you idiot, how could you ever get caught by this? It's a tough look.

Yeah, I got one just the other day from area code plus63. Yes, that's where you should have. That was mine as well, plus63, Hank. Come on. But I thought that might have been like an automated thing. I don't know. I was getting this for like, I wasn't here last week when you're talking about it. Oh, where were you? I was on vacation. Oh, I got I was getting this for like months straight from the same toll thing

And then the weirdest part was at one point so like a real person was texting my brother being like hey Your is your brother this person. I keep getting toll things sent to my house. Please pay now. Damn. Like, or like this is getting really annoying. Please pay this toll thing now. Which is weird. That's the weirdest part.

So did you do it? No. That's crazy. That's deep. It was one of those things where I texted Mike, I was like like do you this isn't legit right and he was like no, they're destroying families They're making their makeup family. Yeah, they're make turning brother against brother But yeah, I don't know how the the scammer got my brother's contact information and that damn and he was sending pictures of like real Letter like letters addressed to me from this toll thing

that is a that's a good scam though your brother owes a lot of money please tell him to pay wow yeah that's crazy okay uh so wait so what's your update that you you still can't believe you got scammed my update is I'm a fool for getting scammed and I regret even talking about it because I've gotten hit up non-stop for the past week of people basically just being like, I got this text too, you're an idiot. Yeah, you are kind of an idiot for fun. No, you're a big time idiot. Yeah, yeah.

So it's, yeah, it's a double fire fest. But it's kind of nice having to get your card reset because then all the subscriptions that you forgot about. I need that bad. Yeah, it cleans it out for you naturally. Yeah. This is why you should just never pay anything. Right. Yeah, good cleans it out for you naturally. Yeah, this way you should never you should never pay anything, right? Yeah, good point. Yeah, too if if anyone ever like yells at you for not paying something you'd be like, oh I thought it was a scam

Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah my bad and then when they're like nobody you actually had to pay be like, are you sure you seem like a scam? Yeah, close out your bar tab. I are just seemed this seems like it's fraudulent. Yeah, that's a scam. Okay PFT This seems this seems like it's fraudulent. Yeah, that's a scam. Okay, PFT I had a pretty good week this week. I would say my fire fest is That I have fallen deeply in love with a house that I'm not going to buy And I'm obsessed with this house and I can't stop looking at this house and just thinking about it It's like 60 acres. They call it a hobby farm It's it's got like a gym a little basketball hoop. I look at it every single day.

You love farming, so I can understand. Yeah. Well, no, I got so- You have a lot of time to farm. I got so deep in this obsession with a house that I'm not going to buy, I started to look up what kind of crops grow out here and what I could plant on the farm that I'm not going to purchase. But I'm obsessed with it. I look at the house

probably two or three times a day and just think, yeah, that's where my corn would go. You should just buy it. Some snow peas right there. Well, the thing is when you get a farm, it's not just like waking up and like your cows are happy to see you at the front door and then you go about your business. You actually have to work. By the way, you pay someone else to do the work. This farm is in Wisconsin too. Yeah. How far away is it?

It's like an hour and a half away. That's we'd never see you again. Yeah. Well no, we would see him the same amount of time. His cows would never see him. Yeah, they would all die. Like that's the part. I don't think PFT would be like I'm going to farm, see you boys later.

He would just buy a farm and be like, farm, I'm never gonna see you. Yeah. I even looked up how many chickens I could keep there. I started looking at ducks and goats. Are chickens like cats? You can just leave out food for them? Yeah, basically.

They take care of themselves. I'd have to call you every morning to make sure you left on time. No, he's talking about having this as being like a second home. Oh. Yeah, where he, again, he would never go to this farm. I thought you were talking about just moving.

No, no, no. I would summer at the farm, the cows would be like, where have you been? We're all dying. Yeah. We all have brosilocysts. Give us medicine. Yeah. It's not like a terrible house.

I even looked up cattle diseases that I should need to be on the lookout for. Yeah, but Max, it has a basketball court. Yeah, we don't have a basketball court. PFT, known lover of playing basketball. It's got a gym. We also have a gym. Yeah, I know, but this is, we don't have a farm. Does it have a lake?

There's no lake. Oh, this is pointless. Oh, that's a good point, Max. There's a lake very close by. You need a fishing pond. Yeah. There's a lake very close by to here. Yeah, you need a fishing pond.

This lake is way closer Because I've been showing everybody this house and everybody is like pumped for me to Continue thinking about buying a house that I'm not gonna buy except for you guys who has given you guys You guys are the only ones who are taking big big steamy dumps on my day names We're not taking dumps on it. It just it makes no sense. I Listened the house is sick. You showed me. I think you guys don't leave I can farm just get a lake house, right? She get it right There's houses on Lake right yeah, right that would be your rich

We're right by a lake where the goats gonna live on a lake who can go so swam You have dogs your dog is big Yeah, that well. I'd have to get more dogs for the farm You just get it just get dogs at a lake house who has given you positive Reinforcement about getting this house everybody that I've showed you I've showed it to probably dozens of people name one name My friend Brian. Okay. Okay. And he doesn't have to work with you though.

No, he doesn't. But he said he'd come visit the farm. Yeah. I would visit the farm. Yeah. But was it like you should do this? Or was it just like, oh, that's cool. He's like, awesome. Yeah.

You should get it. Visiting a farm is cool. Visiting a lake is so much cooler. Yes. And also the key word is visiting too. Yeah. No, I would like you to have a lake and you to get a boat as well. Again, I'm not going to buy this farm, but I am obsessed with thinking about buying the farm. Yeah. That part. I totally understand. I look at

Zillow all the time being like, Oh shit, look at this house in Malibu. Look at this house in Montana. I'm never going to buy any of it. Every time you go on vacation, you have to look at what, what are properties, but doing the fantasy fantasizing on Zillow is everyone does that I'm nervous you might actually try to buy it and then you're gonna be like guys I made a mistake I have to move to this farm because every every animals dying I mean I think the farm like we do zoom episode my cows are dying listen I just I want to indulge in fantasizing about buying this but I fear this is what the whites about fire fest is because I've become obsessed with it

Yeah, I think this is your answer by the way Hank what would get us to stop podcasting in buying this farm I get a farm a lot of farm. We bought a zoo the fans Yeah, but I mean you so you could do squads would lose you do cucumbers Tomatoes you do good content on the farm though. Yeah good content. Yeah, what was that? What was that game back at Farmville? Yeah, yeah, I do that real life. Yeah, I like arms. Oh, I would even maybe grow some weed The possibilities are endless these things you can do at your current house Yeah, you could these possibility like no no you can't I can't have animals at my current house You have you have one I have one you could have another but that you guys are forgetting the goats you could get a

Goat you have a little backyard. I could have your goat live out there Alright my fire fest. It's a future fire fest. I got a issue you guys can maybe help me with so my house is stocked with snacks My it's always stocked with snacks. I'm a big My it's always stock with snacks. I'm a big Fruit snacks guy love fruit snacks. Yeah pound them just I'll open like Six of them make a big pile in my hand and just eat them. I'm Mott's over Welch's myself

Yeah, so I I am as well So the problem though is my wife buys more fruit snacks because the fruit snacks get eaten. I don't think she realizes I'm the only one eating them. And she just bought like a week ago a brand I don't like and it's like the tropical flavor. Yeah. And I haven't eaten any of them. And they're just sitting there and no one's eating them because I don't think she realized that I was the only one eating them and I'm going to get found out for being the only one who's eating the fruit snacks. I don't know what to do. You gotta just bring them to the office and give them away.

Yeah, just throw them out. Yeah. I just stared at them last night because I was like, Oh, I want a snack. And there's probably 50 bags of these fruit snacks sitting there. Just not being touched because I was the one who was doing the work. Put them out for the birds. Yeah. And then I got to figure out one of those fruit snacks too,

you have seven. Like they're a great snack. They're not filling at all. Listen, if I had opened up my snack closet last night and it was the SpongeBob fruit snacks, they'd be gone. I would have taken them all down one, like I'll buy a box of 10 and I'll give like my kids one to share between the three of them and I'll eat the rest.

Yeah, I agree with you. The the tropical subpar gross. Yeah, so I gotta I gotta figure out so I think yeah, maybe bring him in here because I'm I'm right on the cusp. It's been about a week where I'm gonna get found out as being the only one who ever eats the fruit snack. Yeah, bring him in distribute them. You know, just put them in my kids bags and just been like, give them your friends. Yeah, tell them it's Valentine's Day again. Or just put them out on your on your front step and put a sign that says please take one free fruit. It's Halloween. Yeah. I'm

trying to get more fruit snacks in this house. Okay. Let's finish up. We got numbers. Monday shows gonna be an awesome show. We got a very very Italian show Nick Sirianni awesome interview and Diana Rossini. Let's do numbers five me Means you ever gotten this no I Think he was gonna get it today no max. There's no way he's getting it today three I Got a good feeling Somebody's gonna get it. I don't have Somebody not you somebody

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