Pardon My Take - Adnan Virk, Mt Rushmore of Average Things, and Guys on Chicks

Episode Date: July 24, 2019

Training camps are starting to open and we can smell football (2:27 - 9:33). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including millennials and  the earth (9:33 - 23:45). Mt Rushmore of perfectly average things (23:45 - 39:41). DAZN host Adnan Virk joins the show to talk about his new gig, his firing from ESPN, baseball and movies (39:41 - 87:55). Segments include bachelorette talk for guys that don't watch the bachelorette, Kings stay Kings Andy Reid, thoughts and prayer USA basketball, PMT sports biz minute and Guys on ChicksYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Adnan Verk. You probably remember him from ESPN. He got fired. Yeah. Who could have ever imagined that somebody would get fired from ESPN?

Yup, but he's a really great guy and a friend of ours and we had an awesome talk with him about what he's doing now. He's firing from ESPN and a little baseball talk for you. We also have Hot Seat Cool Throne. The Mount Rushmore of the most average things. I'm very excited about this. I'm very excited about this one. No, wait.

I'm kind of excited about it. Whatever. It's going to be okay. Hey, take it or leave it. Bachelorette talk for guys that don't watch The Bachelorette, even though Hank watches The Bachelorette. That was a yes, and guys, I'm going to watch Bits and Pieces. Bits and Pieces.

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BARSTULE, get $5 for free and $5 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, July 24th, and training camps have started, so the random injuries have popped up. Yeah, who's the first one on the list this year? I don't know, it's always such a bummer. This is the one time, but he's fine, like I'm talking ACLs, it's always such a bummer. Jules is working on ThumbGate right now, he's got a brace underneath his glove, so we're going back to Tom Brady's old cut that he had, like where you've got reporters trying

to like zoom in on his thumb, see exactly which wrong way that there's Michael Bennett, but not that Michael Bennett, and not the other one, no, there's not the other Michael Bennett either. Not the guy that's running for president, and not the guy that doesn't wear shoulder pads. Correct, the one for the Falcons. Another Michael Bennett, hurt his ankle. It is such a bummer though, when you are just scrolling Twitter, and training camps

have started, you're getting juiced up for football, and then boom, like Ian Rapport says, yeah, this guy's out for the year with the torn ACL. We're about to, I'd say like in the next 36 to 48 hours for Jake Butt, torn ACL. I hope not. Don't wish that on him. No, I'm not wishing on him. Trust me, the NFL has a much better place when there's a guy named Butt on the back of his jersey running around making plays.

But yeah, this is the time of year where you get excited for your team to report to training camp. We get all the training camp stories, we'll probably go through them next week when all the camps have reported, but there's nothing like those first few pictures of the team out there in their jerseys, and rookies are out there right now, and it feels good, and then boom, an injury. One of my favorite parts is when the reporters get to camp for the first time, and they get really excited and tweet out the new things that are different in the press areas that

change over the course of the last year. They got new chairs. They're just excited to be away from their family, and then it will take probably a month or two of tweeting empty stadium pictures before games on Sunday to be like, I haven't seen my family in months. This also means it is the official start of QB tier system. So the QB tiers rankings are just starting to come out right now. We've got the pantheons, we've got the diamonds, whatever tier system you use, now's the time

to really get it cranked out. I actually did some studies on this, and I believe that the tier system should be more like an hourglass, not like a pyramid, because it seems like there are five or six that are at the top, and then there's very few that are just perfectly average, and then there are a lot of shitty ones down at the bottom. Well, I always go with my binary system where it's guys that can win you a Super Bowl and everyone else sucks, and then just some people suck a little bit less. There's the really good sucky quarterback, is a perfect, he is an elite sucky quarterback,

but you're like, if you had to ask yourself, could Matt Stafford win a Super Bowl? Answers probably no. And there are a lot of teams that they say we've got our guy at quarterback, but in a heartbeat they should trade him for some occasion. Keep this going. Matt Stafford, by the way, still a Hall of Famer. Definitely. I think he could win a Super Bowl too.

Not on the Lions. Well, that's the problem, the Lions, but now he's got Patricia, good coach. When he signed the new contract with the Lions, that was kind of it, where he's like, okay, I'm going to be on the Lions. But Matt Stafford in a vacuum, could have won a Super Bowl. Yeah, he's right on the edge of suck. That's why he's an elite sucky quarterback, because it's like, if you put him in the right spot, everything could go perfectly.

Yeah, I could see my, yeah, you know what, Hank? Matt Stafford wins a Super Bowl. I mean, they won a playoff game with him, right? They did. Yeah. There you go. So you've got, I think he's a very good example. Did they?

They lost the Saints. No, they lost the Saints. They lost the Cowboys when they got screwed. Yeah, they got screwed. They lost to the Seahawks. Notice, keep Bayless doesn't keep harping about their loss to the Cowboys. I don't know if they have one. No, they have.

I don't think that they have, but they should have beaten the Saints that one time. That was a great game. Yeah. Tony Schaeffler. That was a good one. 1991's our last win. 1991's our last win. Yikes.

Sorry. This was a, we took a detour on some Lions bashing and I'm not, I don't like the Lions, but I didn't mean to do this so meanly. Lions bills, Browns, Dolphins. Those are the longest droughts. Yeah. 27, 23, 21, and 18. Well, good news is the Browns are going to win the Super Bowl this year.

Yeah. Destined. The 100%. Hammer the Browns this year. Yeah. So everyone's got, we got the tier system. They're ranking the top 100 players, which people get mad about every year. Also that's, that list is way too long.

100 is too, way too many for anything. I mean, we, there should be no list that lasts 100 places. When they announced like 94 is Mitchell Schwartz. I'm like, yeah, Mitchell Schwartz is good, but I didn't know, I didn't have to know that he was the 94th best player in the NFL. Oh, I did. I did. Because every time, you know what, I'll take that back.

I don't really like the top 100 listing, but I do like the countdowns that they do, where they show like how many days until the season starts using the numbers on the shirts. Yes. Like when there was 45 days, I was like James Devlin or 46 or whatever it was. Different players. Like I like that because they got to really scrape and claw for some of those like low 50s. Yeah.

So we can feel it. We can taste it. We can smell it. I can hear it. You can hear it before you see it. I'm starting to dream in football. I had a dream last night. I was dreaming just about a college football Saturday where I was losing everything.

But it was a great dream. I would love to. I woke up and I was like, damn, that wasn't real. Even though I lost all my money. You know how like when you watch a dog dream, you woke up ready to get back after today to get back to even. Right. I was like, oh, it's Sunday.

I'm ready to go. Let's get it. By the way, did you guys see that every single over hit last night? I didn't bet any of them. I did not see that. After the over weekend that I had because of the heat, the salami hit, the grand salami, I bet the salami and the nationals game got rained out. So the salami got void.

Oh, that's too bad. Every single game went over. You got to be fucking kidding me. That's too bad. Yeah. This is what this is what July is. It's baseball taking your will to live like you. You bet baseball and you think you'll do OK.

And it just sucks the soul out of your body. It's awful that they just canceled the entire salami because there was a rain out. It's too bad. It's worked in my favor before. But the last night, every single game went over. I don't like it. But yeah, dreaming about betting is knowing that like you're ready to get back in action. Last training camp for us fans right is like dreaming about changing the channel at that

perfect time. Dreaming about sitting on my couch right back to that first snap on Fox getting away from CBS. That's the most that's dreaming about the slide in. Yeah, I did a slide in on Leroy on the couch the other day just for fun just to just to make sure that you were in in, you know, midseason form. He didn't know what was going on. He just farted and he went back to sleep sleeping on my couch.

That's what all Michaels does these days. Anyways, yeah, sleeping on my couch, dreaming about sleeping on my couch with football on. That's what July is. Should we do hot seat cool throne and get to a very, very good Mount Rushmore? We think we think it's actually I just did that again. Hey, why don't you start hot seat cool throne? OK, my hot seat is Millennials. Oh, sure you guys saw this.

Paths Fitzgerald did this is like a thing that's just going to be a reoccurring thing for the next a million years. It's just coaches being like, it's crazy that these kids are on their phone out. He did he's at a press conference and he asked like why the attendance was down and his excuse was that he was at a dinner and next to him was four people and they were all looking at their phones. So that's why Northwestern isn't getting tickets. Correct.

They weren't at a football game. They were out to eat dinner. Yeah. We don't have years and years of data to back up that people don't go to Northwestern football games. Is dinner ruining college football attendance like all those people in the restaurant that could have been at a game too. But it was funny.

But yeah, he said that he wanted to go up to him and just take away their phones like he was their parents and be like, Hey, that's so talk to each other. It's a big football. I love that. Yeah. That's so psycho football guy. Yeah. So but now that like Paths Fitzgerald is that far into it.

Millennials is just going to be it's going to happen to every major sport, every coach like at the college level is going to go on one of these rants. Well viral. People are like, Oh, this is so true, but nothing about it. I actually think it. I think Paths Fitzgerald is smart with how he's doing it because that's Northwestern football. Like they're never going to get the top athletes.

So he doesn't have to recruit to like be a player's coach in that respect. You know what I mean? Uh, Dabba couldn't do this because those guys can go anywhere and it's like, are you going to back? Are you going to say we can't be on our phones? Yeah. The LSU locker room has outlets to plug into the nap stations so that you can charge your phone.

So it's a sneaky smart move by Paths Fitzgerald. It's basically setting the like the standard is the standard and the standard is you can't use your phone. Yeah. He just wants a bunch of kids that don't have data plans right up to Northwestern. By the way, while you say millennials. I watched the first episode of euphoria last night. I don't want to be a father anymore.

Yeah. Can you just, can you opt out at this point? Dude, that, have you watched it? No. I was watching Big Little Lies. It is. It's intense. It's fucking intense.

I heard there's a lot of dicks. It gets a lot better. But the, the, the first episode I was like, oh, I heard the music was great. And then it's like the beginning is just like fetuses. And then it's just, it's extremely heavy to start, but it gets good. I've heard that. It's confusing. When they go through the girls phone, it's like Jim Sturger's phone.

It's like just everything. Yeah. Well, they go through the dude's phone and it's Jim Sturger's phone. That's where things get complicated. It's bad. Okay. Okay. So yeah.

So I won't be watching euphoria. Yeah. It's pretty good though. It's very well shot. It is good. No, I liked it. But I just the whole time I was like, I, this is, is this what is like teenagers are doing? Let's just start a commune where there's no electricity and we'll just raise our kids

there. Call it Northwestern. No electricity, no vaccines. Perfect for you. Yeah. That's good for me. Yeah. The next thing that I've grown is Grand Theft Auto.

So much like the rest of the world, they have adapted to the gambling world and in the new Grand Theft Auto, there is a casino that you can go to and you can pay real money to gamble in this Grand Theft Auto casino. I'm in. Wait, so you say no more. It's actually real. Say no more. Yes.

Today marks the grand opening of the Diamond Casino and Resort, a sprawling entertainment and luxury living complex conveniently located in Vinewood and open to all citizens of Southern San Andreas. I'm in. I love it. And I like how there are going to be people that get upset about this despite the fact that Grand Theft Auto is just a game where you can literally walk down the street and blow people up with a bazooka.

I'm in. I'm fully in. Gambling is a bridge too far. There's going to be like articles and shit about kids that pay too much money gambling in Grand Theft Auto. Right. I don't care. I'm in.

I love this game. I'm going to get this game. Yeah. Cool throw. Yeah. This should just be a casino video game. That's what's next up, right? Yeah.

I mean, most sports books, I mean, I used to play back in the day and like sportsbook.ag they had an animated horse racing game always lost such a song. But it was fun. Yeah. It was fun. My other cool throw was NASA. I watched First Man last night and it was awesome. Really?

I was kind of boring. Really? Yeah. I was on Sunday. I loved it. Yeah. Ryan Gosling does the thing that he does every like third movie where he just doesn't talk for most of it.

Yeah. And drive. And it's like he just it's mostly silence and it was up in space getting lost. Also Buzz Aldrin has to be upset about that. Yes. Like he looked like a fucking idiot and really it made me realize like the only reason you're cool is your name is Buzz and you went to the moon because you everything else was just Neil Armstrong's doing.

Well, he also pissed himself on the moon. But it's you got to watch because he was the first man to pee himself on the moon. So technically he was the first dude on the moon. That's true. But he he was not a very intelligent character. He was the guy and he was kind of an asshole when he was like everyone else is thinking it. Yeah.

Right. The dude just died. Yeah. Oh yeah. At the at the house thing. Yeah. But Buzz Aldrin spin zone. He's famous for now punching that guy in the face.

True. That said the moon line landing was fake. True. My which is a totally normal thing to do. Yep. My hot seat is Tom Brady. So Tom Brady is firmly on the hot seat as training camps about to get underway for the Patriots.

He went cliff diving. Hank you'll appreciate this. He jumped off a cliff into a body of water. Probably was hung over. Yeah. Probably. Strawberry. He held his daughter's hand and she didn't want to jump off.

So we just kind of like drag her off. And so people are very mad about child endangerment. Yep. Make up your mind people. Do you want Tom Brady dragging his kids off cliffs or kissing him open mouth? Yep. Like one or the other. It can never be enough for somebody.

You know. I was saying before the show that it would be the ultimate troll move by Roger Goodell to suspend Tom Brady for one game after Tyree Kill gets zero and just be like hey there's videotape. Yeah. That's all. Sorry. That's all they need.

But it would be fucking funny. He was just he was in a free drop. It was very similar to an elevator in that way. I feel like this was such an overblown story. Like he the today's show was talking. It was so stupid. Like child endangerment. He his daughter should have jumped.

They said they counted to three. Like that's on her. I actually say it's more child endangerment because Tom Brady raised a child that was too afraid to jump. That's true. That's true. Don't raise any cowards. He who hesitates is lost.

My other hot seat is the Arctic. So the Arctic is on the hot seat because there are forest fires in the Arctic Circle. Oh nice. And this is what. Yes. I love how they describe them. So there are forest fires in Alaska and in Siberia. And the way that it's described online in the article that I read I think it was on the

Independent. It says the ongoing Arctic fires have been most severe in Alaska and Siberia. Some have been large enough to cover almost 100,000 football fields or the whole of Lanzarote. In Alberta Canada one fire is estimated to be bigger than 300,000 football fields. So I like how they just sound good. The way they describe it though just using football fields as an analogy that really makes it hit home for us. I'm American.

Okay. Now I get it. That's big. I'm starting to think we're kind of fucked. We might be kind of fucked when we went when we went 100 degrees in New York City on Saturday and Sunday and then Brooklyn was literally flooded on Monday. And I was driving home on Sunday night and the skies were like bright and lightning. That was cool.

Like it wasn't like one flash of lightning. It was like so much lightning that it was just bright out. I just love it. Now what about, what does this mean for bare weather? Bare weather? This could really affect bare weather. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it for sure.

Like 30 years from now wearing, you know, no sleeves at a Chicago Bears game isn't going to be that big of an accomplishment. Hold on. So 30 years from now we'll probably have like a 26 week NFL schedule. So we'll play all the way into February. That's true. So we'll be good. So like in a foot of snow.

Yeah, right. Okay. Just keep pushing it back. I like that. My cool throne is everyone on Long Island's face because it's going to get rocked off on Saturday. If you're in Long Island or onside, inside Long Island, whatever we're calling it now, Pup Punk is playing a show.

In Long Island. Pup Punk is playing a show at Mulcaze on Saturday night. Right by the beach. The 27th. I don't know if it's by the beach. Underneath the subway station. Yeah. You thought it was by the beach.

I don't know. I don't know anything about Long Island, but I do know it's at Mulcaze and tickets are very affordable and there's still some available and we've got a new song coming out tomorrow. So stay tuned. Today. Today. Yes. It's the song of the summer and you will love it.

That's a promise for me to you. So I will see you. Guarantee. In Long Island. On Sunday. Guarantee. That's a PFT guarantee. On Saturday.

On Saturday. Would I say Sunday? You nailed it. Yeah. See you on Saturday and on Sunday because we'll probably play past midnight. Oh. Badass. Checkmate.

My other cool throne is unpopular opinions. They are on my cool throne because people are getting really into expressing unpopular opinions on Twitter. But the thing is they're not very unpopular. So I did a little unpopular opinion search on Twitter and here's some of the unpopular opinions that people say. Okay. Ready for this?

Unpopular opinion. All politicians are corrupt and meant to divide us. That's very popular. That's an unpopular opinion. Unpopular opinion. Pineapple doesn't go on pizza. I think a lot of people agree with that as well. Unpopular opinion.

You shouldn't date your friend's exes. Pretty popular. People are really going on a limb here. But if you put unpopular opinion before anything you say, it gets more traction. That's a little life hack for you. Okay. I like that. By the way, did you see that Boris Johnson guy?

He's basically Rob Ford. I didn't realize that. Oh yeah. He's hilarious. I don't know his politics. But he's hilarious in terms of just we'll bowl those over a little kid while they're playing football. The photo ops he gets himself into as a politician are just out of this world.

I can't believe that his team. He was in one, a crane lifted him up and he was wearing a Union Jack suspender outfit. I thought it was a new Ricky Gervais show when I saw some of his gifts. I couldn't believe it. He looks like if Ricky Gervais dressed up like Donald Trump and fell into an ocean, they didn't towel him off good enough. Yeah. He's around, you know, running over kids, tackling people, falling over.

The Rob Ford legacy is still a lot. I would actually, I want to take that back. He's more like a mix between Trump visually and Jeff Daniels from Dumb Dumber. Okay. That's kind of the vibe that he puts out. Yeah. And maybe a little touch sprinkle. Mark Davis.

Mark Davis. Also, his name is Boris, which is just, that's always throws you off as a British guy. Oh, it throws you off. You're just like, this guy's from Russia. Yeah. My hot seats is Twitter again, because it fucking sucks. The update is the worst. I don't know why they keep doing it.

Why do they keep doing it? Just to fuck with you. And you know what the worst part is? To make you talk about it. Jack threw the people under the bus. Did you see that big article that was like, here are the three women that are behind the big Twitter update and they just got roasted on Twitter. You can't do that.

Nice. You can't give us names of the people who made the Twitter update. Here are the three bad ass women that did the Twitter update. Do they have one person in any of these companies? I will work for any of these companies for $5 million a year. This is an open offer to just be the regular dude who you show it right before you launch it. And I can say that's stupid.

Well, the thing is, companies like this, they have so many employees that they have to come up with projects for them to do. If they don't have a project, they're just maintaining the existing website. And then it's like, you have to fire everybody because they're not doing anything new. Right. Just keep it running. Just like change the font every now and again. How about that?

That's fine. Yeah. Give us different fonts. Go back to stars instead of hearts. Allow porn. Have a section of Twitter just for porn. That works too. My cool throne is police officers, NYPD police officers because people are throwing water

on them. To cool them off. To cool them off. In the summertime. It's so hot. Although I think they're doing it maliciously. Yes. Like marathon runner type thing.

I don't know. They're just throwing water on them. It's malicious. I wouldn't be doing it, but the effect is that they're getting cooled off. So they're literally on the cool throne. I like that. Yeah. What's the deal with the fire hydrants?

What's the law in New York? Can you just open up a fire hydrant at any time? I drove by four dudes who are sitting in lawn chairs with an open fire hydrant. It looked like the most fun thing ever. Yeah. It's like the moose that was sitting on the sprinkler in Canada. They were just sitting there by the water. I like, I want to know what the rules for that are.

Like is that something that just citizens can do? Yeah. Do you have to have like somebody from the public works department in Yellow Vest combined do it? I think it's pretty illegal, but also very cool. Also very cool. It's cooler than it is legal. Yes.

So go ahead. All right. We ready to do it? Let's do it. We have our Mount Rushmore of the most average things in the world. This is going to be good. Is it? I know.

I don't know. It'll be all right. Who is going first? I think I go first this time, right? Me first, then Hank. Hank is a little nervous. He said, I don't really understand it. I'm never nervous because at the end of the day, it's not about competition.

It's just about fun. That's true. We're here to lift each other up. King support. King. Are you ready? Let's do it. My first average thing.

I'm going to go with Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins, probably the most average quarterback that these two eyes have ever seen. He will beat every team that is less than eight and eight, and he will lose to every team that is better than eight and eight. He's one of those quarterbacks where if you see he's going to be on prime time, you're like, OK, I'm decently excited to watch this game, but you never expect him to do anything great. And guess what?

He never does. Can I debate it? OK. I think his contract makes him not average anymore. I think it's so much fucking money. I think it makes him more average. No, I think that makes him not average because it highlights just how average he is. Do you think that Kirk Cousins is more average than Andy Dalton?

Yes. Andy Dalton is exceedingly average. I think that Andy Dalton was at Kirk Cousins level like two, three years ago, but some of that average shine has been rubbed off on him a little bit. What do you mean? He's lost a little bit of the luster of being average. I think I would say Andy Dalton might be more average than Kirk Cousins. I think Kirk Cousins' contract makes it and the whole like, you know, betting on himself

and then having it work. An average guy doesn't do that. No, I think he's very, very average. And also he's still got the haircut, the doofus haircut, makes him more average. Andy Dalton, when he got rid of the doofus haircut and got the glow up, became less average. That's an average guy move to try to glow up and not really successfully do it because you're a ginger. No.

Hank, go ahead. Yeah. Pudding. Pudding. Okay. Okay. I'm here for that. Any kind of pudding?

Tafiyoka. Vanilla pudding. Okay. Okay. Good job. Good job. Nice. Good job, Hank.

Tafiyaki, I'm going to go with a ham sandwich. Ham sandwich. Okay. I feel like you don't really get a ham sandwich, you know, if you get like an Italian, you got to spice it up with the pepperoni and all the other stuff. Turkey usually is the go-to ham sandwich, it's like, I don't know, you just have it. It's okay. No, it's not great.

No, it gets excited for it. You can kind of dress up ham a little bit sometimes when there's a honey glaze. Yeah, a baked ham is different, but a ham sandwich is a ham. I had turkey sandwich on my list. I would say turkey is more average than ham. No, people like, people like, you can get a turkey sandwich that's really good. But you don't eat the turkey and you're like, oh, this is great turkey. But you can have sandwiches just.

You can have great ham. Totally average. Uh, you got, dude, turkey is the fucking central point to a whole holiday. Uh, okay, my second pick. It is. Oh, I love it. I love the deep fried turkey. All right.

Uh, my second pick is going to be owning a Toyota Camry. Fuck! Are you serious? No. I had Toyota Camry is just in general. I had Toyota Corolla's Corolla's to step down. Yeah, but it's more average. Camry is the average.

No, Avalon is the, is the elite. That's the fucking, you know, the nicest car you can own in the world, Corolla is your starter car. Camry is the like, I'm making 65 a year. Maybe I got one kid or a dog. I'm feeling okay. I got my camera. But you get that feeling sometimes when you get in the back of a, of a Camry that you

can stretch your legs out and a Corolla Camry is always like a little, little cramp. And I agree. Camry's the average. No, in fact, that was two versus one. Yeah. Who here used to sell used cars? I, if I, if I saw a fucking baller, I can't get, I both had Camry. That's, that's so happy.

I see a fucking baller step onto my lot. I'm putting you on. You're still mad about the Kirk Cousins. Immediately. Camry is the right choice. I'm talking about Corolla specifically Wednesdays. Oh, good pick, Hank. The most average day.

You know, it really is. Wednesdays suck. Two man Tuesdays. And then Thursday and Friday, basically the weekend Wednesdays are just like, can't be too good. Can't be too bad. Just got to get through it. Yep.

You can't go out on a Wednesday. No one's the rest of your week. Can you try? You feel okay. But then you're like, yeah, you know what, excited for the weekend yet, because you still have two more days. And then like Thursday, you're like, all right, it's not even football. Yeah.

Wednesday is like waiver wire day. That's it. That's all Wednesday is good for. Good pick, Hank. Good pick, Hank. I like that. I like to do Toyota Corolla now. I'm going to go.

This is a starter vehicle. I'm going to go with U2. The band, U2. Okay. It's perfectly average. They got some songs I'll listen to that I won't change the channel on. Okay. That I won't object to.

And then they've got a lot of songs and I'm like, what the hell is this? How many more songs can I hear Bono scream about like a polar bear drowning? Okay. So yeah, U2 is like the perfect band. Plus, they're the ultimate. The perfect band. The ultimate dad band. Are they the perfect band?

Perfectly. They've got a lot of hits though, right? They've got a lot of hits. They've got a lot of clunkers and even some of their hits aren't that good. I feel like Apple wouldn't like put music on your phone if they were sandwich band. Oh yes they would. You're saying the things that I'm thinking, Hank. I'm not going to say them.

Hank, yes they would because they know that they're not going to offend anybody by preloading. But they offended everyone. Yeah. Everyone was pissed. Yeah, because you're like, I didn't ask for this. All right. What's your next pick? All right.

My next one, I'm going to go with the Winter Olympics. Okay. The Winter Olympics, all right. You've got a couple decent events, I guess. Or not basketball, you've got hockey, that's kind of nice. Okay. Ski jump can be cool to watch for a night. The problem, curling's awesome.

Actually, I don't. No, go ahead, Hank. You've got to finish your statement. What are you going to say? When there's only two Olympics, it's tough to be average when there's only two. There's either a good or a bad one. I don't know, just specifically, like the Winter Olympics in general, it's like, okay. I kind of like them.

I'm more, yeah, I kind of, exactly. But I kind of like them. I'm like them. Exactly. It's nice, it's a special treat. The Summer Olympics or the Winter Olympics more? Summer, obviously. If it was every year, I would say, yeah, that's pretty average.

So Summer Olympics are great. Summer Olympics are good. Winter Olympics are good. Average? Winter Olympics are average. Now, when Bob Costas shows up with a pink eye that's looking like he's been going. Dude, what about figure skating? You forgot about figure skating.

Looks like he's been going Christian Yelich on somebody's ass, then I'm fine with that. But no, Winter Olympics are just, they're a very average, it's an average event. But it's only every four years. Yeah. Okay. It averages every four years. You're correct. I'm running out of them.

But I have a shitload. I'll go with long sleeve shirts. Okay. Okay. It's something you only want to put on. That's not bad. It's not something you go out of your way to put on, but it's like, all right, I don't want to be too hot, I don't want to be too cold, but it's not like, it's not a deciding

factor. Okay. There's no specific long sleeve shirt weather. I actually, so the only thing I threw on mine is hoodless sweatshirt. You think that long sleeve, embrace debate, more average hoodless sweatshirt, long sleeve shirt, hoodless sweatshirt, because hoodless sweatshirts are harder to come by hoodless sweatshirts. Like it feels like there should be a hood there.

It's true. I love hoodless sweatshirts. All right. So it's a tweener outfit. Yeah. All right. My next pick is going to be, and this I thought about, okay, who is the most average college football team of all time?

And when I looked it up, I had one team that popped in my head and I looked up the numbers and it confirmed it to the max, North Carolina State football. Okay. They, I looked it up. They are five, 10 overall for their entire history, 510 winning percentage. They have 20, 23 of the last 40 years, they've gone to a bowl game. All the bowl games are like the exact same, you know, not good, not great, like the Gator bowl, the Sun bowl, the independence bowl, the minor key car bowl, like, okay, you had

a good year. They had one year where they won 11 games in the last 40 years. They haven't won more than 10 otherwise every year is basically seven, eight, nine. And then take out, obviously Phil Rivers is the exception of the rule, but there are two other quarterbacks in the NFL right now, Jacoby Berset and Mike Glennon. Russell Wilson. He's a Wisconsin guy. Russell Wilson.

And I feel like every, every like four or five years NC State beats Clemson or Florida State on like a Thursday night. So I was going to use the quarterback as a position to dispute the averageness of NC State because of Russell Wilson. Well, he's a Wisconsin guy. Because of Phillip Rivers Hall of Famer. He was great at Wisconsin. So that was where he was.

Phillip Rivers Hall of Famer. Yeah, no, no, I said he's an exception there. And because of Chuck Amato looking like if Guy Fieri was a pit crew boss in NASCAR. Tom O'Brien, such an average coach. I love Chuck Amato with the glasses. My next pick is going to be, fuck, this is hard. All right, I'm going to go with in the music genre, John Cougar, Melanchem, the most average guy you could come, come across.

He's not as cool as Bob Seeger. He has nowhere near as many hits as Tom Petty. His number one song is Jack and Diane doing the best they can. They're literally average people. He wrote a song about average people and he's from Indiana and you're like, oh, he must be the most famous person, famous musician from Indiana, Michael Jackson is the most famous Indiana musician. Well, John Cougar, Melanchem, so, but he wrote great songs about average people.

So for example, he wrote, you're still hung up on Kirk Cousins. No, no, we're debating. We're debating here. He wrote Pink Houses, another song about average people. He's average. Stop. Yeah, he's averages could be hurt. So good. Town.

Everything is just average. He wrote a banger about. It's possible about S&M. He's as average as possible. John Cougar, Melanchem, about getting choked out. He really is that guy you think like, oh, is he Tom Petty? No, he's not Tom Petty. Well, his middle name is also Cougar.

Yeah, well, he dropped it, though. I think he's just John Melanchem. No, he's always the right. He's always the Cougar to me. I think he's he's a hero. Great songs about average people like Bruce Springsteen. What do you mean? That's what Bruce did.

That's what the boss did. Yeah, Bruce has hits. Great songs about average people. All right, Hank, your last pick. I don't know. OK, I'll go with I have one. If you want. No, I don't know. Please. I wrote this down. Law and Order SVU.

That's good. All right. Great. That's good. It's not bad. It's a show you don't turn off, but you kind of also don't really want to watch. You don't go out of your way to watch it. But when it's on, sometimes you watch. Good pick. You'll go through the commercials. It does suck. It does suck you in sometimes, though.

But some sometimes you just flick right out. Yeah. All right. For my last one, this is going to be tough. Good job, Hank. You didn't have any more than that. No, knees and spring, but I don't even know if that counts. Knees. Just the joint. Yeah. OK. Knees. Good.

My last one, I'm going to go with. Hmm. This is tricky. I'm going to go with. University of Pittsburgh football. OK. Strike that. Whoa. ACC Coastal football. So you're just taking NC State as a. Well, I had I had I had both of these on my list.

OK. I actually I think that Pittsburgh is more average than in the state. Tamarino. They have all. I think they won a national title or they went to a national title game. They've had some good players. National title game over the years. It's tough. ACC Coastal football is going to be my last one.

I think it's a very, very average division. Anyone can win on any given year and then get their asses kicked in the Conference Championship game. Wait. So isn't who's in the ACC Coastal? I'm bringing it up right now, because I think that you. Miami and Clemson. Oh, no, no.

Clemson, Miami is definitely not average and Virginia Tech is also pretty, pretty good. Even when Virginia Tech is good, they're not that good, though. But Miami. But then you're dealing with. So you're dealing with your Georgia Tech's, your Dukes, your UVA's, your pits, your NCC. No, not. Oh, yeah. And it's the other one.

North Carolina. OK. So that's a board about Miami. That's a murderer's row of nobody giving a shit about you. Miami. My is the you back. Do you know Georgia Tech's not running this the triple option this year? So fucked up. So fucked up. All right. What else we got?

Honorable mentions. Hank, you got none? Wheel of Fortune, Knees and Spring. Wheel of Fortune is good. I had vanilla ice cream and Jeff Green, but that was from Coley. I had Evan Turner. Evan Turner has his average points, but his voice is 9.9 in his career. He's never averaged more than 14

and he's never averaged less than seven. That's pretty solid. He's pretty damn average. I had I had 24 hour fitness. OK. Very average, Jim. Yes. Vodka. OK. Mids. What about owning a Labrador Retriever? Yeah, but they're great dogs. They are great dogs, but it's very average.

Very good dogs. What about Snickers? I feel like Snickers is the most average candy bar because it has peanuts, but it's not the best peanuts with Reese's and it has caramel, but it's not the best caramel with Twix and Milky Way. So it doesn't do anything the best, but it has it all. I had a subway, subway sandwiches. Yeah, that's good average. You eat it if you're hungry.

I like that. But you'll you know, you would probably just walk past it if there was some some other place on the block. Bubba sent me Chipotle Chipotle. I was going to say my penis size, but it's not below. I'm going to go mids. OK. What about mac and cheese above ground pools? Mac and cheese. I disagree. You don't think so. Love mac and cheese. OK.

Orange starburst. The best. You like orange the best. Yes. They're OK. Yeah. Yeah, they're OK. It's yellow and pink, the best. And then orange and then red's terrible. No red's pretty good. All right. Indianapolis. You know, I kind of like Indianapolis.

Oh, I like it. But it's average because it's not only where all of the test ground for the chain restaurants, but it also has two of the four major sports, not all four. Yeah, it's just average. I've got Bleacher Report. The website. Yes. Jim Furick. Just Jim Furick in general. Yep, that's good.

And what was my last one? Oh, yeah, the app Pandora. Also good. Yes. Pretty average. Does it brand muffins? Five nine. Yeah, five nine. Yeah, good point. Average. That is perfectly average. Perfectly average height.

And yeah, I think that's it. All right. That was a that was an OK Mount Rushmore. Very OK. Very OK. I think there's some good answers. Moderately consensus. Bad answers. You guys really swarmed on me on that one. Well, but you know what? That's fine. That's the spirit of Mount Rushmore.

I didn't say any about Kirk Cousins. We like to debate things on the show. You know what? We'll let the audience decide. It's tough when two of the three of us say Toyota Camry, and then you insist that it's the Corolla. I think the Corolla is more average than Corolla. Corolla is the starter vehicle. You can be a baller in a Camry.

The Corolla is the starter vehicle. Put some D's on that. The Avalon is the elite luxury. It's literally three classes. I would say that the middle is right at Camry. A Hyundai for that reason. A Hyundai would be the starter vehicle. Then you upgrade to a Corolla.

I'm happy that I picked that one I did, because man, everyone had the Toyotas on there. All right, let's get to our interview with Adnan Verk. When did we tape this? About a week and a half ago? I said some things about Joe Madden. The Cubs have been okay since, so maybe I'll take some of those back.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, someone we've actually done work with in the past. We were on a radio show with you once. No, twice. Twice? Right out of the gate, big cat, come on. You know the boys. We call Jason Kidd on your show.

That's a good memory for Pifty. Here's the memory. So first off, I met you guys in Miami. I was there with Ursula for the All-Star game. It was the first time we met, we did the show, and then Pifty's right. When you guys were on at the ESPN, you called Jason Kidd on the show.

And Jason Kidd was great. Let us write through. He was like, no problem. You called the switchboard. You agreed to come on Barstle Van Talk. So when the show gets green lit again, he'll be our second guest. So that's the voice, Adnan Burke.

You came with a posse. I didn't know that. Things have changed. So you're at Dizone now. You have two podcasts, GM Shuffle and Cinephile. And then you host shows on Dizone. And you have a posse. When did that happen?

I know. It's weird, fellas. Like, you guys know me. I'm just a little Canadian. And I love the fact, by the way, on PFT's laptop, he has a sorry right there for me. Sorry. He's literally put it up there for me.

But I just think that if you know of a posse, who are you? Like, in this day and age, honestly, just feel like you're. I don't really know these guys. I sound like they're speaking 10 bucks each. Can you come in here? You guys barstool fans? Like, yeah, great. That's actually not a bad business model.

It's just like Tinder, except just for dudes to roll with you, please. Right. What's this guy do? I don't know. Yeah, he just stands. He just rolls numbers. It looks very important.

Yeah, I'm glad you brought up Dizone right off the bat because we've struggled with the pronunciation. It's Dizone, DAZ. I've got it now. Dizone? Yeah, it is Dizone. And I don't blame you, PFT. You're right.

You see it, and you go, is it DAZN? Is it Dazen? I'm not really sure we're good, but it is Dizone, which I think is different. It's a cool name. It's, listen, listen, big cat. It's four letters. It is.

It's four letters. Still enter and leave it. Take it and leave it. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of it. I mean, it's OK. But what about the first time someone said barstool? Somebody who's in a meeting goes, what do you mean? Like, cheers, like barstools?

Like, yeah. How does that relate to sports? And then I'll just say, no, it's great. Barstool, yeah. Yeah, I guess it's just more of a confusion. If you make something confusing for me, I'm kind of out already. Here's what happens.

So ESPN, I see four letters, one vowel, ins and an in. But you say all the letters. And then I see Dizone, four letters, one vowel, ins and an in. So I'm like, wait, it's not D-A-Z-N. I'm so dumb that when it's not dumb, my brain has been conditioned to say sports networks by letters.

So you actually, you got started working at TSN, right? And fun fact, people forget, the T in TSN stands for the. That's perfect. It's the sports network. That's very literal. Right, I like that. It's so Canadian.

All right, so how is Dizone going? So you have the baseball whip around, right? That's right. So change up, which, and I want to talk about your cubs in a minute here. I really want to get your thoughts on Joe Madden, because this is keeping me up at night. Well, this is the thing.

So let me just pipe up the show first. So it's on from 7 p.m. to 1 a.m. Live look around all the games as they happen. And me and Scott Rogowski, who is a legitimate comedian, are on from 7 to 10. And then Lauren Gardner, Tony Loughner, 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. So whip around style, all the games as they happen, which is great.

Well, what's better than one piece of cheesecake? 10 p.m. to cheesecake, all the games as they happen, all the best moments, Trout Machado, et cetera. Let's talk about your cubs. So everyone keeps saying, all right, Joe Madden on the hot seat. And I get the fact that cubs have underachieved. And I understand the fact that division is poor. It's obviously a mediocre vision.

But whenever you fire a guy, you have to be able to say, hey, we've got the next man up. Like, who's the one lurking in the wings? I think people think it's David Ross. Ryan Sandberg. No, I see. Ryan Sandberg. Ryan Sandberg.

Ryan Sandberg. Ryan Sandberg. We already passed on. Remember, everyone's like, why don't we be the next big one? He was going to be the guy. No, I actually think people think David Ross. I swear to God. OK, if it's Rossy, then I'm all in.

Because I think the way that the manager position in baseball has moved to now, it's less about the X's and O's, because they have so many guys upstairs that do that shit for him. Right. You know, like Aaron Boone, someone basically sets up the whole game for him. He doesn't decide. He doesn't have to make these big decisions as much

as he did maybe in the past. It's a lot more about keeping a clubhouse together and having, like, you know, and I think David Ross would be great at that aspect. I have to know specifically with Boone what level it is. If you want me to call him, I'll call him. Oh, nice flex. But honestly, I can't picture this big cat.

Literally, there's like Brian Cashman, like, Boone's wearing an earpiece. And he's telling him, like, OK, Jonathan Holder here. Yeah. I know that's an image that's already in place. It's like, when he gets to this, do this. Right. This happens, do this.

It's like almost like a choose your own adventure. So you know, book that you're reading every game. So it's not like you're not making decisions. This is just a lot of the decisions have kind of been made for you. Collectively, rather than one person. And back to Joe Madden, the only reason that he's, like, quote unquote, on the hot seat is because he doesn't have

a contract. They knew this was going to happen. If you don't give him an extension before this season and the Cubs aren't on pace to win 110 games, there will be spots in the summer where people will be like, are they going to fire him? Right. But my question to you as a Cubs fan,

do you think Joe Madden is still a good manager? I do. I think he's a good manager. I do think he, I think there is an element of, it's very complicated. But I think there's an element of 2016, even after winning the World Series, there were some things that happened in that clubhouse

that he never fully repaired. Right. The fact he wasn't going to be happy unless he rolled his Chapman's arm fell off. Right. And just not using guys in the right spot. And I think there is the element of, you know, a lot of guys will say to the media

that they don't care about how they get shifted up and down the lineup. But it matters to players. Like guys don't like batting in different spots day to day. There's an ego issue. I don't want to hit six. You're right. Exactly.

Or it's even that. It's just like, you know, you get comfortable in a spot. So I think a little bit of that, a little bit of switching out guys and, and, and playing musical chairs at points. He, I think Joe Madden is a great manager. I think he was perfect for a young team. Once you get to a veteran team,

I think it gets a little bit different. I also think that there's an element of like, I always look at it if you fired Joe Madden, or if Joe Madden doesn't resign next year, he's going to get picked up somewhere else. Correct. He's a very, the question isn't, is he a good manager? Cause he is a good manager.

It's, is he a good manager for this team right now? Right. And he's a guy like, if you look in, in football, like Marty Schottenheimer used to be where it's like, yes, he's an awesome coach. Right. But if you keep him around the same team for too long, it just becomes like Charlie Brown's teacher going,

want, want, want. You kind of tune him out after all. It's Phil Jackson. It's what it was, Phil Jackson was the rule of seven. Was it seven years that the guys tune him out and you want to basically change over the entire team. Otherwise people would just not listen. I know some managers too who don't like Joe Madden

who think that he makes it about himself. Yeah. That's what I thought you might do. Like a little bit, but sometimes it's a good thing. Right. Right. He takes the pressure because he's funny. He drinks wine.

He tells stories for an hour. Brings a magician in. Yeah. I love that stuff. Who wants to see a parent? All right. You can say a million things about Joe Madden if you want to like critique him.

But the one thing he always does and I respect is he never, ever, ever lets his players get the blame. Correct. He always stands in front of his players and he always, you will never see him take shots at his players through the media, which a lot of managers do. Right. He never does that shit.

So in that respect, he absolutely is great for them. He also has a hell of a spin move. Yeah. Joe Les was not able to go. No, you can't. Joe Les was Jonathan Ogden. Yeah. So baseball is you're covering it every night.

Yeah. We've talked about it and I think everyone talks about it in the media. Like where does baseball go with none of these guys being like superstars? And it's such a regional sport. You just only care about your team. Right.

What you fix baseball for us. So I think. I love it. Commissioner for Dave Burke, you figure it out. Oh, we've got some ideas if you don't have it. Yeah. Nothing wrong with a juice ball. Fighting.

Fighting is a good thing. I think this. I do agree that the sports become regionalized. But I feel like I'm still that guy who just loves watching the game. Like I get the fact that all star game numbers go down every year, but I'm the guy that still loves introduction. I still want to know what all these guys look

like with their hats off. So I guess I'm not one who's personally reflective of the demographic, which is saying that baseball is not a national sport, because to me it is. Because our show, listen, to your point, Dan, if you're a Cubs fan, you watch the game on WGN. And then after the game, you flip over to change. Because, all right, I already got my Cubs.

So my regional fix is satiated. But now you know what, I do want to watch Kershaw and Chris Paddock and Manny Machado, whomever. So I think that I fight that notion of I just watch my team and that's it. I do think that happens in this sport more than others. But I do think that because, listen, you could argue that in the NBA, do you really

care about the Hawks and the Wizards? No, not really. Yeah. I'm a big Wizards fan. You watch for stars. I think NBA, you watch for stars. In NFL, you watch every game, because there's only 16 games. Right.

College football, same thing. There's only 20 games. In baseball, I feel like you do watch for stars a little bit, too. That's my thing. Yeah, so you like your regional team. But then, yeah, I would watch Manny Machado get up. PFTs would be amazing.

I would watch Craig Kimberle get into the game and do his weird little dance that he does before. You're not going to get through a whole game, but change the game to just five minutes. I get that. But it's hard to watch. It's hard to be like, I can't wait to watch Mike Trout tonight when he could go and have four bats.

And two of them could be a walk and a single. Like, that's not. And it happens an hour apart from each other. That's the problem with baseball is it doesn't lend itself to watching stars night in and night out, where you're like, this guy in basketball, if you're watching for LeBron James, you know he's going to play 42 minutes.

You know he'll have the ball in his hand. You know he'll shoot the ball 25 times. When you watch baseball, if you're watching for a star, you might get four or five bats. But here's what I think helps. Specifically, change up in the zone, which is fantasy. Fantasy baseball is still huge, just like football. So if you agree with PFT, you still

like to watch the sports and you're big into fantasy baseball, then I think it's a huge way. That's for sure. That's for sure. I mean, I gamble on the game, so I watch it. If you gamble and fantasy, then I think, there you go. That's how to fix baseball. More gambling, more fantasy.

Are they going to be open to gambling, though? Is Manfred, like, everyone talks about Adam Silver being, we always joke on this show. Adam Silver has the, he has the easiest job in the world because the other three commissioners are so resistant to change. Adam Silver can just be like, yeah, gambling sounds like a good idea.

And he was like, damn, Adam Silver, what a fucking forward thinker. Oh yeah, he sometimes just changes too much. He goes based off whatever is the most recent Reddit thread on r slash NBA. And then he's like, yeah, we're going to implement that. He's got a job. Adam Progressive Silver, like, that's his name.

Everything is so easy. He's so progressive here, whatever you want to do. Saying gambling is good for the sport, having that be like a hot take in comparison to the other three commissioners, he's insane. He's not even saying anything crazy. He's just saying, we're going to grow the pie. So is Rob Manford going to do the same thing?

Well, I will say DeZone, we're completely in cahoots with Major League Baseball because changeup is done in Sococcus. So the studio is there is where we are. So MLB's been great. Rob McClary, Dave Patterson, the whole team, like we have Harold Reynolds on, we have Dan Plissac on, we have Eric Burns on, that guy's a nut.

Yeah. So I do think that that line's been blurred a little bit. So maybe if Major League Baseball, because you know what, we're not doing an MLB network, but if DeZone wants to do it on changeup, yeah, okay, sure, we're partners, but it's a separate entity. Go ahead.

You should have Kevin Malaron and have him just do dick talk based on every player that's up like, okay, this guy, let me tell you about this guy's package right now, this guy's hung like a light switch. So before I came here, of course, I did let everybody know, hey, I'm going to go see a big cat PFT.

And they're like, oh, great. Ask them what happened with intentional talk. I'm like, oh, I've heard the story. All right, I got it. Chris Rose. So do you work in, you don't work in the same area? The same building, yeah. So do you hit Wiffleballs?

I haven't had a chance yet, but I could. I think I had the record, yeah. So you guys have done it. Collectively we had the record. Collectively. What was the record? I think I hit five. Is it like Glad Jr., 91?

Yeah, I hit five. I hit, we had a total of six. Yeah, it's six. So just say that big cat. It's like I'm like Hank Aaron and he's my brother. No, we had a total of six home runs. Seven. I'm like 65 and one.

Billy Ricken and Cal Ricken over here. Is there a spot here, like where we are right now, if I may say, it's nice, but it's a little sterile. Like I was expecting like hoops and stuff. And like, do you guys have a bench press? We're going to have a bench press. Yeah, a bench press is going to make sense. When Rassillo comes by, there's a bench press machine.

Specifically for Rassillo. What's it like hosting a show with someone who's actually funny now? Is that nice? Good one. That's going to hurt Rassillo's feelings. Rassillo's a great dude. Yes, we like him.

He's definitely a friend. He was such an advocate for you guys, seriously. Before, like I had met you guys, he was like, no, you guys are going to love these guys. And you know, your image can be for some, like, oh, I'm not sure it's controversial. It's edgy. What are these guys doing?

Ron's like, oh, those guys are great. So he is as big a fan of yours as you guys are of him. So let's talk about some ESPN. Sure. All right. You got fired. Are you addicted to leaking stuff? Do you have a leak problem?

You have a leak problem? You're like, you love to leak. Are you going to just tell everyone what, are you going to release this podcast before we even release it? No, I think in this case, that why these guys are here. Right. They're recording it.

Yeah. It's going to run on awful announcing tomorrow morning. They want to make sure that we follow the right protocol. Like Burke cannot be trusted on his own. That's what we have by ARMY here. So you're addicted to leaking. I feel like that type of thing happens a lot, though, like in sports media.

These websites, they get their scoops from somewhere, right? Explain it. Explain the whole situation. Yeah, why was it different when you did that? I know you've done it, but give it to us for real. Don't give us the Jim Miller, Richard Deisch, like let's clean it up. Those guys had your back, man.

That was crazy. That's what I honestly have to tell you guys, that whenever this thing happens, and I pray, I've either ever been fired before. Oh yeah, one time from ESPN. Yeah, that's true. That's right, we do have a good point. Relatable.

Right, I had a slightly longer shift than you guys. You guys can't relate to this. But when you're watching the thing unfolding, it's like watching your own funeral. Like you're listening to podcasts, people are talking about Adnan was regarded as a good guy, he was well. But I'm still here. I'm making eggs right now for my kids.

I'm still here, I got plenty of hot takes, I'm ready to go. And then you hear some people being, of course if you go online, you go, okay, at best you're gonna go, if it's 50-50, you feel pretty good. But I was looking, I'm like, oh, people are more on my side. And you're just gonna be like, hey, this guy's a good guy, this shouldn't happen.

And as you mentioned, Jim Miller and Deisch, those guys were unbelievable. I was like, take it easy, guys. I know he should have been fired, but he probably did leak something. He's not deep throat here. He's not the Pentagon Papers. All right, so walk us through it.

So you, so tell us the whole story. Because so people who don't know, like what exactly happened? You've been at ESPN forever. The story comes out that it was, was it a baseball tonight news that you had maybe talked to someone on background? That's the part that sucks,

that you got fired for fucking leaking baseball news. No one cares. It was like the start time of baseball tonight, right? I'm the worst news ever. I wouldn't even know that news. Well, that's like, like PFT said, it wasn't exactly the Pentagon Papers. You're gonna go with the bag.

You should probably go up with something a little more incendiary, which made, made this a little more crazy. But honestly, like you guys said, I've been there for nine years. I thought I put up a good resume. I done a lot of work on a lot of different shows and had a good time.

And sometimes, listen, you, you develop relationships with guys in the media and you just, you know, it isn't thought to be anything nefarious or anything sinister. But in this case, USPM was really upset about it and they just said we're gonna part ways. And it's kind of like a marriage

in many ways, a relationship, right? You're with somebody, something happens. You go, hang on a second. Is this that big a deal? And they go, yeah, it is. And you go, I don't understand. Like I didn't, you know, I'm sorry. No, you're out.

That was that? Can I, can I get the flat screen TV? No, can I get a couch? No, we're done. Marriage is over. See you later. And you go, okay. Was it, was it about the leak itself?

Cause I feel like leaks happen in this business all the time. There are like numerous websites out there that have sources inside, whether it's FS1 whether it's ESPN, wherever. Was it, was it the leak? Or did you like right after you got caught where you like, no, it wasn't me. And they're like, let's see your phone.

You're like, oh yeah, it kind of wasn't me. Yeah, I mean, I think it was the whole situation probably just became unfortunate. And they just didn't like, I don't know. I guess the way that the sequence of events unfolded. But honestly, I'm lucky the way things worked out. Cause you guys know it. This industry is very tricky, man.

Like something happens and all of a sudden you go, all right, that's it. Donnie's got a black mark on him. He's got a scarlet letter, but thank you. That wasn't the case. I mean, for me, I was just really lucky that John Skipper gave me this opportunity that Jamie Horwitz came in and did this.

So honestly, ESPN is a great place to work. The last 72 hours were not great. You guys know what that's like. Getting pulled to plug is not fun, but you know, it's worked out well. So it sounds like it was shocking though, when it happened, when you're like, wait, this is really happening, this is really going down.

Traumatic. That's crazy. If you look at like Google right now, top five stressors in life. And it's like, you know, death of a loved one. I think number two is like, you know, a divorce. But like getting fired is right there. Moving, relocating, you know, you've got four boys

and you know, we're living in central Connecticut. Life is bliss and all of a sudden, boom, you're out. Bam, at Super Bowl Sunday, you're getting boom. Yeah, which is the top trending topic. That's not bad though, because it got buried real quick. Although the Super Bowl sucked. It was on the back. Everyone's like, let's get back to talking about that.

PFT, to your point, I thought it would get buried because it was on before the Super Bowl, but my understanding is actually it was the opposite because everybody was online on their phones tweeting. Oh, it's a big day. It could actually be a big internet day. Oh, wait, what happened to Virg? And the Super Bowl sucked to Dan's point,

which I think the Eagles should still be champions. The Super Bowl was so loud. The Eagles should still be the champions. Were you, was there any element of relief? Because like for us, when we get fired, I was like, sweet, I don't have to do that show for 16 more weeks. Sweatpants on Monday?

Yeah, exactly. I mean, there's certain elements that you're like, listen, with ESPN, it's a great place to work, but it does consume your life. Like work-life balance is not a strength. And maybe that's my own fault, just that I was dedicated to the job so much. So hey, you want me to fill in with the recital?

No problem. You want me to do Mike and Mike or Goloka Wingo? Sure. In addition to doing baseball tonight, college football, college basketball, et cetera. So I think when you're there, because it's so competitive, because the people are so talented,

you naturally have it overwhelm your life, which is not a good thing. Now that I'm at D'Zone, I'm living in Helhocus, New Jersey, 15 miles from Manhattan. Like I feel like there's a lot more balance in my life, which was not ESPN's fault. I think it's my fault. I just kind of let the job overwhelm me.

Yeah, yeah. And it doesn't reward you in the end. If they want to get ready, I'm like, all right. All right. This guy didn't call a sick for nine years. Good luck to you. Right. That's true.

You should take your sick days. That's actually the biggest thing. And your vacation. And Hank is living proof of that. So you do not pass on those, because they can fire you at any moment. Right. No one's going to go, hey, he did cut

showed us paternity time. By the way, did you take your full paternity time? No, I not really. You took an afternoon? Yeah. I'm telling you right now, big cat, take your time. How long? Like a Sunday off.

What's the paternity time you got here at Barstool? I don't think there is a, I think you could, I actually, I don't even know. Like we could, at Barstool, I think I could probably not show up for two months and send a few emails and people, if I kept on doing, pardon my take, people wouldn't say anything.

Right. But then there's a chance that I could show up for one, not one afternoon and everyone be like, where the fuck are you? But think about this. You guys worked for ESPN. Right. I literally was on your first program at ESPN.

Correct. And it was a short stint. But if you were to compare the environments at Barstool and ESPN. Yeah, that actually is a, one of the lessons we learned was don't be in a situation where other people can kind of control your destiny. Here we control our own destiny

and we make our own content and we don't really have to answer to anyone. Like people always ask, what is the beauty of this place? Like we get to do whatever we want. Right. And talk to whoever we want and go anywhere we want. And I don't think there's many places in the media

in 2019 where the creators have that freedom. All kidding aside, if I say to you guys, listen, you can have a huge hit show on ESPN, which would be awesome. Fuck no. Or do this where it literally, if you do whatever you like,

you do whatever you, we're giving you zero restrictions. If you ask an actor, if you ask a singer, musician, whoever, you have zero restrictions, money's decent, everything's good. Or you're in a corporate machine, you're a big dude, billboards, but you better follow the company line.

Oh, equal amounts of money, no chance at all. Right. I would go anywhere near ESPN for that. Like right now the job that we have, we set our own schedule. Like the most control that anybody has over our schedule is when we all agree, okay, we're meeting at this time

to talk about this weird shitty idea that we've got, that we're gonna somehow make work despite itself. Like that is the most rigid that we get in our day. We don't have production meetings that are set. We don't have bosses that we really report to. With the exception of like, if we fuck up at some point, somebody asks us, hey, why'd you fuck up?

And then we tell them. But the sell out money, if you used to be like, hey, dude, it's 10 million bucks. I'd say, yeah, PFTS is the same amount. So let's go the other way. So less money to work here rather than the big corporation. If you're talking sell out money, I'd take sell out.

Sell out money, yeah. I'll be open about that. Rick Riley, but that's where I draw the line. You start throwing millies around and it's like, dude, you don't have to work for us. I double your salary to major corporation, but they will tell you exactly what to do. You guys can dress a different way.

I want suits and ties. Yeah, I don't know about the suit and tie thing. I did that for three weeks, the worst three weeks of my life. That was right before the Super Bowl. That's why I didn't pay that much attention to you getting fired because I was too concerned with wearing a fucking necktie.

I did get a shout out on your podcast. So I do appreciate that. Who's that? I was fired. You guys are a friend of the crowd. Yeah, we do consider you a friend of the crowd. I appreciate that. Even though you leak everything.

Have you been tested yet at the zone? Have they been like, I didn't get out of the room? Yeah, no, thankfully they have not put in a strong anti-drug. Dude, I would make so many of those jokes if you were here and I would be a dick about it. But I think that's part of friendship. You can be able to bust a guy's job.

You know what, right now we're not actually recording this. We're gonna let you go and we're gonna see what you put out, what turns up online tomorrow. If there's nothing, then we'll have you back and we'll do this over and over again. It's like an addiction. You can't help yourself. So after-

The Uber driver told me he'd be here loving. Really? Can I tell anybody that? Is that confidential between us? After you leave ESPN, I imagine it takes some time to get your thoughts together, figure out what you wanna do. I read that you pulled an ultimate fired guy move and you grew a beard.

Oh, that is nice. That's a great move. I wish I could do, that's one drawback to not having good facial hair. I'll see if I can find the picture. But I was inspired by lettering. I said, do you know what? After 30 plus years of having to shave every day,

his first thought was I'm not shaving. That's all I care about. So I went a good three weeks without shaving and it was embarrassing because it was way too many white hairs. So I had this crux here, do I dye it? Like Keith Hernandez, just for men. I dye my hair. Okay, there's nothing wrong with that, right?

Otherwise, I looked like I was 57 years old. As long as you admit it, as long as you say that you dye your hair. We don't have to tell somebody preemptively. Oh, by the way, hey guys, sorry, I just dyed my beard. No, I think you have to say that. You shut the conversation by saying, I've done it.

Yeah, no, you have to be like, hey, just so you know, I'm dying my, I tell people like, hey, preemptively before they make a judgment about you, they go, I dyed my hair. Oh yeah, do you want to be a coach K or like one of these guys who's weirdly got jet black hair late in life? It's like, just be open about it.

But growing a beard, to me, it was like liberating. And then I had to go for interviews and stuff. And I was like, do I shave the beard? Do I keep the beard? It's kind of like a power journal move, having a nice beard like Bob Lee, late in his career. He had the general had the beard. And there was a real stick.

When I started ESPN in 2010, you know, it was like, I don't think it was quite like the Yankees, no facial hair rule, but you had to be somebody special to do it. Now everybody has a beard. If you don't have a beard, then people think, what's wrong with you? Did you not get the memo?

Jesse Palmer, by the way, started the trend. He was the first guy to ESPN, went cool beard. You know what? Jesse now engaged. Damn good looking. No matter what he does, you're like, okay, yeah, we'll have that on the air. No problem.

Best looking Canadian. Do you think ESPN is like trying to be more friendly to their talent and that respect that like, I'm always fascinated with how the media works and how ESPN, because let's be honest, when they hired us to do Barstil Van Talk, they wanted like the coolness of what we bring and kind of a relatability that they might not have anymore.

Do you think that they're gonna switch back? Because there's been a weird trend where I think ESPN got lost a little bit and you felt like you didn't, you know, the big sets and all this technology. It's like, what we care about is connecting with human beings. Right. I do remember an anchor, I can't remember what it was

but he says something about when they unveiled that set, $100 million set, gorgeous set, and the anchors are this big. Right. And he goes, yeah, that's ESPN. He goes, nothing's bigger than the brand. Right. Giant sports or giant ESPN, the anchors are this big.

So that was intentional, obviously, is to just be like, hey, we can just change out people left and right and the brand keeps going on, which I guess is smart. Yeah, I was gonna say, in that respect, it's like you don't wanna put too much power in the form of labor, nothing's bigger than the brand, which I think is accurate.

Yeah. I don't think anyone gives a damn that I'm not there. And ESPN's awesome. Yeah, and it's the history of ESPN. I think the talent did get bigger than the brand at points. Right, Killborn. With Dan Patrick and Killborn and Overman, and they were able to squash that.

But it's always interesting to me because I feel like ESPN, for the longest time, it was just they are the worldwide leader, they dominated everything, and now in the last few years, it's been like, well, maybe not. Yeah, and I think, listen, you guys have proven that, other shows have proven that, that listen, personally, it does count.

There's going to be people who say, well, nothing's more important than the content. Of course. I mean, you're not gonna watch a lousy movie if the story's bad, even if it has actors, you like directors, et cetera. But if you have personalities that like it, would they not enhance the story?

Right. Like in late night shows, right? That's a perfect example. You say, I don't want to care about the late night. I just want to watch Fallon or Colbert, et cetera. It used to be the Tonight Show in capital letters. Right when Conan was doing it and the fact that Jay wanted to take it back,

and him and Letterman fighting over it. Now it's like, no, I watch Colbert, I watch Fallon, I watch whomever it is. Right. At every point, I think, Big K, you're right, that East Penn's always gonna have a leg up. They've been around for 40 years. Right.

If 40 year had start, dude, you've done some great things over the ways. There are obviously a lot of smart people there, a strong infrastructure, et cetera. But if you have more personality enhanced mediums, I think you have a chance. Which we do with D'Zone. Certainly we change it with our boxing coverage,

your enhancing personalities is what you guys do as well. Yeah, D'Zone, I've noticed that they've done a very good job recently of sponsoring fights that have a lot of blood and crazy knockouts. Like, they're big. Like, they get the tweets up on Twitter, like, within seconds of a knockout. So, like, it's started to work its way

into the subconscious already that, like, okay, D'Zone is out here and they're gonna be a player. I heard that they are thinking about doing NFL right stuff too. Which would be, like, going out to direct TV a little bit. Now that would be a game changer. Well, listen, and to go back to, again, with ESPN, look at how football changed that place in the 80s.

Right? We all grew up with Countdown and the game, et cetera. I remember talking to Chris Burman. You know, it's so cool. It's funny, you think about ESPN. I can't believe, like, I literally met these people, that I was friendly with these people. I rode in a car with Chris Burman

to the World Series in 2013. And I'm, like, just geeking out the whole time, like, boom, or tell me stories. And, you know, with Chris Burman, when he talks, sometimes, like, he removes, like, words. Meaning, he says, like, he'll just go, people look at me, football, eh, baseball. And, like, and when he's saying,

it's people look at me and think I'm just a football guy, but I love baseball. And he's telling me, the San Francisco Giants are my favorite team. Like, I'm a die-hard baseball fan. I'm like, really? Yeah, baseball is the reason I got this business. I'm like, this is Chris Burman.

This is, like, Mr. Football Prime Time. But he said, listen, at that nexus of time, he realized football was skyrocketing and just jump on the wagon and go. And that changed the USPN. Fox Sports was fledgling. 1994, they got football. Boom.

So there's no question. Like, I love baseball as much as anybody's. My favorite sport always will be. But I love the NFL. And if you get the NFL, that changes things. So if we get, if D'Zone gets football, listen, I'd be ecstatic. I'd be over the moon.

I'd be bracing my hand. Can I be a part of it? We've got NFL in Canada. You guys know I'm Canadian. I'd love to be a part of that coverage. So, yeah, dude, if we get NFL rights, I'm not privy to the negotiation. Anything you'd like to tell us about the ongoing negotiations?

Yeah. We'll cut this part out. Let us know everything. Right. I am not privy to those negotiations. They've wise it up. Why not? They're like, I'm not really sure why.

I think Adneba would bring a lot to the table. They put you in a skiff. One of the secure readers would do those negotiations. All right. Kind of a random question. How much did cereal suck for you? Well, it was hard. Because in a first, nobody knows your name.

And all of a sudden, they go, wait, you're the guy who murdered your girlfriend. I go, no, no, that's not me. I'm the guy who talks about movies on the file. That's the podcast I do. So I think it helped in terms of brand awareness. Yeah. But it sucks when you're saying you have a unique name.

And it's like, boom, the next most famous guy with your name is the hit podcast murderer. Well, here's the other part of it, too. So my name is correctly pronounced Adnan, which is the cereal guy's pronunciation. But I was really five years old in kindergarten, and they're doing all the names. And they said my name is Adnan.

I go, all right, I'm just going to go with Adnan. It sounds cleaner and neat. Don't fight. Yeah. Very Canadian of you. Right. And Canadians go with the short A's. Mike Medano, not Mike Medano.

Right. So I'm like, all right, short A's. So I just always went with Adnan. Then cereal comes up, and they go, it's Adnan. They go, wait, which one do you use in the imposter? Is it the killer or the sportscaster? We should have fucking done when he got fired. We should have a free Adnan hashtag brought it back.

Yeah. Damn it. Crossed through music. Yeah. Not everyone crossing streams. The other problem, too, is if you say my name's Adnan, they go, Adnan, which sounds like a robot. You're like, oh, this is my buddy Adnan.

Right, right. Yeah, I mean, that would suck. That's like a nightmare to have some, you know. If there was a big cat, it was a murder. Yeah, it's like, well, that sucks. By the way, when Florio fucks up, I get a little of that crossfire sometimes. True.

Yeah, by the way, I do like seeing what NBC, that is. Yeah. The notification comes across your phone. It's like PFT, arrested for hit and run. It's like, no, there was Mike again. After listening to cereal, though, do you guys think he did it? I'm so dumb that my brain has been

polluted to not know the answers to any questions in modern media now. So the point of that podcast is to just inundate you with both sides of everything. The show would not be interesting if it was just very clear that he was railroaded and sent to prison for a crime he didn't commit. Likewise, the show would not be as interesting

if it was very obvious that he did it. So their job is to make it very even-sided. So I think he probably did it. All things being equal, but I also, I think I'm smart enough to know that I have no fucking idea. He either didn't do it or he's an unbelievable sociopath. Yeah. Because like that part where you trick yourself, you're like,

wait, this guy's really likable. Well, of course, if he's a murderer, you know, sociopaths can be likable. He's like, Patrick Bateman. Yeah, right. You can just trick yourself into thinking about it. But yeah, I guess I guess I'd say yes. No, I don't answer.

No, you're big no. No, but I just because we have the same name. Are you kidding? OK, what about you? He can go to a murdering spree. I still defend him like he's fine. Hank, what's your take? I can't remember any of the details of the case.

Yeah, I'll say this too. For a lot of hype for that, it was a little long. Like after a while, I did eight episodes of this. And they have the Netflix series now. I don't need to see this. And there's a book as well. I don't need the book as well. I got it.

They didn't do it. I don't think you did it. I started to watch the Netflix series, and I was like, I can't do this. I need Hank's take. You're watching Chernobyl. Yeah, I was like, well, they want to be more upbeat, like Chernobyl.

I don't listen. You didn't listen? Just give me a take, though. You don't have to. He's free. Ensign. Oh, he's innocent. OK, Hank is on the Adnan Innocent Project.

All right, I'll end with this question. Seekik question promo code take. You put in promo code take. You get $10 off Seekik purchase. Sopranos, what was the ending? Who died? You know, there's this very artistic theory, which I'm going to go with, which is that because the camera,

you know, it's all from Tony's POV, right? Like, his point of view is he's watching what's happening. And then the last shot, he looks up and it goes to black. So I believe that David Chase actually whacked us. He whacked the audience, because we're watching him, and we go to black. We can't see any more of the stories. OK.

I think that we get killed. I like that. I remember watching that real time and thinking my cable went out. I think now you're actually going to do that. You know, I'm one of the few who did not. Big Cat, I was enraged, though. I said, what a cop out.

I was screaming at David Chase, go, what? Does he die or not? Like, that's brutal. And my buddy with me was going, no, the cable's like, it's not the cable. It's such an artsy move to not end the movie. It's unambiguous. It's so for the critics.

I'm like, this is exactly what he would do. Well, this is what French films would do in the 60s. We're not going to end the movie. It ended. This is garbage. The last season of Sopranos, I felt like deja vu, though, with the last season of Game of Thrones, where, if you remember in real time, I remember having this conversation

where everyone was so mad because, like, we need to kill everyone. Why the hell are these people still alive? Like, this is you. It's so hard to end these shows that you become invested in everyone, and you're like, well, everyone's got to die. What the fuck? So I bought Jesse Paolo the Sopranos because last year he

was like, no, I heard it's brutal. I go, what? He goes, the ending's the worst ending ever. He goes, it's one of the greatest shows of all time. He goes, I heard the ending sucked. I go, I'll buy it for you. Make your own decision. So he went, every text to me last week, a couple of weeks

ago, he was like, oh, dude, it's the greatest show ever. I'm like, I told you that. And he goes, I was just expecting a lot of murder and blood. I thought there'd be more of that because of Game of Thrones. I go, well, that's not the way you should evaluate a show. Which beloved character gets murdered next? Agatha Christie. This show's awesome.

But I watched the last two Game of Thrones because I'd never seen the show. I saw the first episode wasn't for me. I'm just not a big Dungeons and Dragons. I'm not trying to hate, but I'm not in fantasy. But I watched the last two with my wife. And thankfully, she was giving me spoilers because I didn't know what the hell was going on.

And all I cared about was Dinklage. I go, he's awesome. I love the stage. And he was terrible at the end. Right. And I go, is Dinklage OK? And he lived. That's all I cared about.

I lived and so did Dinklage. I was just a second act for both of us. I would say if we're looking at the best TV show of all time that landed the plane at the end that actually had good. Breaking Bad would be the best. I don't think it can get any better than that. With a bullet. Everything felt clear.

His kids still get the money. Jesse gets away. He's the moral conscience. Hank does die, which I think at that point, he does want to die. He needed to die. He killed the white supremacists. Right.

The wire too. The wire just because the system rolls on. The wire is just relentlessly bleak. Right. Like relentlessly bleak. Like I don't want, I can just go to Baltimore and see what's happening. Right.

I don't know if I need to sit through this show. I'd be a lot depressed about my life. It is. Before we let you go, do you have any questions for us? Yeah. I brought a gift for you guys. Whoa. I didn't know what to bring.

I said, listen, you had Julian Edelman and you had big stars here. So I brought straight from Canada. Uh-huh. Maple cream. Whoa. Those are really good. Look at these. Originally, I was just going to give him to Big Cat

because he had the baby. But I said, that's not for him. No. Yeah, well, I should have to have a kid. So yeah, we'll share. Yeah, you go with. So maple cream cooking straight from Canada. He's already tasted nature's cookies.

Those are good. He's a sex haver. I'm going to have one right now. You know, I just think you got to bring a gift. You guys have always been good to me. I'm on a diet, but they look delicious. I'll have one for you. I started one yesterday.

No, I started yesterday. No, I'm just trying to. Listen, it's gotten, it's gotten away from me. It's gotten away from me. That's the thing too. Like if you, in your hypothetical that if we had to work at ESPN, they'd probably make me lose weight. OK, how about this?

Because anything is possible. Yeah. Right. The famous quote was happiness to see a bristle in your rear view mirror. OK, they've had that. Jim Patrick. I can't remember.

It was a former anchor. OK. But listen, Keith Oberman did not go on the best of terms. He's now back at ESPN. He's been back several times. What's what are the odds? You two go back to ESPN. I go back to ESPN one day.

Zero. I'm not saying zero percent. I'm going to say 1% because if they make us like president of the entire company, if we end up owning ESPN one day, see, I think I will go back and I will. I will just program myself onto every show. I would love for them to make me a godfather offer and then I can make it public and go ad-nan on them

and just fucking leak it and and be like, turn it down. Right. And then you don't need proof of that. Like, yeah, I do. Yeah. Look, here. Yeah, here we go. And so that would be my move.

How often were you guys actually in Central Connecticut? I saw you the one three times. Yeah, thrice, I believe. You didn't gain enough of an impression of it. I did not fall in love with Bristol. No. Now, I've also heard that some people have run into trouble there for accidentally stealing over the course of the years.

And that's something that we could find ourselves in some hot water. What, like office supplies? Yeah, well, no. It was either like Mac Brown or Bill Polian. Yeah. I've heard both stories. Snacks for the cat.

Snacks for the mini cats. So listen, those guys that used to programs were literally everything's on the house. Like, I'm going to take that couch them to. Like, go ahead, that's fine. Right. You are running the program. Right.

Yeah, Mac Brown can walk into any store in Texas and just take whatever you want off the shelf. Right. So, bag of chips here. Like, is that really going to be an issue? Exactly. Like, Tomorrowland didn't do well. Is that on us now?

Right, right, right, right. Clotuny Bomb, that also we can't get snacks? That's not good. I'm going to say 1% just in the event that they would make me like an executive there and I would just get to debate Steven A. Smith. I would go back for that. It's behind the scenes debate.

Yeah. Just for the love of the sport. Just have him in my office all day yelling at him. But I'm sure people still ask. They ask me, oh, you worked at ESPN, what's Steven A. Smith like? I think that's, like, when you're removed from it now, you realize that everything is Steven A.

Yeah. He's a star. Like, you can ask me any question. All the ESPN people I know, I was like, oh, just Steven A. Storys. I just want him. So give us your best Steven A. Storys. One time, I think it's, listen, I think he's a nice guy.

But obviously he plays the role of trolling and having fun. So I'm feeling it on Mike and Mike, and I was smashing concussion, the Will Smith movie, because I just said it was a terrible film. And he told the truth. He told the truth. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, thank you.

Tell the truth. Yeah, and he tweeted, and he goes, and he tweets at me. I think he follows zero people. I probably like Jay Bellos. He follows one guy, maybe. And Steven A. just goes, yo, I'm in. You're doing a great shit feeling it. But don't you ever come up, my man, Will Smith,

like that with that kind of disrespect. And I'm like, wait, I just got called out by Steven A. Smith on Twitter. Retweet, like, can I read this more? I want to retweet it once a week. Just like, hey, Steven A. Smith called me out. Clown me. Take that first.

He's going to get $10 million. Oh, yeah. And he's going to be worth every penny because he orders. Who wants his ass off? I talked to somebody that works over there, and they said a very interesting point, which is like Steven A. and Max. Max thinks it's a debate show.

Steven A. knows it's an entertainment show. Yeah. And Steven A. gets it. And he can pretty much name his price right now. Especially now, if I said to you guys, what are you watching and what are you listening to? Levitage show is hysterical. Right?

Because those guys get it. They know that it's fun, it's loose, and it's great. And as far as live events, obviously, I watched Federer Jokovic. I was living and dying with Rodney Overton. Oh, yeah. Dude, I can't believe you're doing anything. Jokovic is the ghost.

No, you're brutal. I said big head of message. Dude, how much does it suck to root for a guy who keeps losing to Jokovic? I couldn't believe you said to be Jokovic is your ghost. He is. So Roger's the greatest of all time. OK, but then what happens when he plays Jokovic?

Listen, the guy's almost 38 years old. How do we end that conversation so fast? He's almost 38 years old. And he took him to a tie break, the first ever in the history of Wimbledon, five sets. And you're going to call him a loser? Yeah. That was a victory for mankind.

See, that's bullshit. Absolutely was. That was inspiring. And that's what he's out there doing it. Yeah, he's 38. And he almost won. Two match points. Right of forehand, two championship points.

And then the approach shot did not go deep enough in Jokovic where he lost the winner. Yikes. He's not even going to have the numbers. 20 majors. That's the number one all time. OK. How many is Jokovic?

Jokovic is going to have it. Samper's is 14. Yeah, Samper's, but his were more impressive. You can make the quality over quality debate. No, no. No, it's the other way. Yeah, so everyone says, oh, Federer and Jokovic, they have to deal with higher levels of competition.

Correct. Disagree, Samper's was just that much better than everybody else that he was playing at the time. What is tricky in all seriousness, is Federer came up when those guys were fading, like Samper, Sags, etc. Correct. Yeah, he never had to face Samper's in his prime.

He was early in his career, and now he's late in his career facing these guys in the prime. So it is tricky. You can't line up Federer's career. It's not like Bird and Jordan. They're not the same time. Yeah, Bird was better. Yeah, Jokovic, that's easy.

That's an easy bad comparison. Jokovic is going to end up with the most grand slams and will have a better record against Federer all time. Even then, he will be the goatee. Yeah, he will. Here's why. Rod Laver does not have the most majors all time. But if you ask tennis aficionados,

they say Rod Laver is the greatest of all time. I don't even talk about tennis aficionados. I don't even. I've been a tennis fan for one day, and I've already quit the sport. I'm not going to US Open. But it's over. But it's like saying Derek Jeter's better than Cal Ripken

because he has this many World Series championships. Yeah, fair. And no, it doesn't go that way. You can't just do it. Good point. But if you want to go that way, Federer's still the best. Yeah, but Jokovic will have more. Cal Ripken never earned pinstripes.

What happens if he doesn't? Can I go back on the show? Yeah, of course. And I'll be like, I do not want to talk about tennis. And I'll be like, no thanks. You can come back with a talk serial. Can I bring those cookies again? All right, Adnan, thank you so much.

Find him on Dizon, co-host of the GM Shuffle and Cinefile. You can get them both on Apple. Apple, Stitcher, all those places where podcasts are found. Perfect. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming. I feel like we're still putting a word for me to have me here. No, no.

No, we like you. We said yes. I don't care what everyone else says about you. We like you on this show. Yeah, I got two. Yeah, exactly. A lot of people say that you're kind of fucked up guy. Right, right, yeah.

Leak everything, but we're like, no, it's OK. You guys knew my reputation. You just did them before I even met you. All right, thanks, man. Thanks, guys. That interview was brought to you by Capterra. Do you guys remember 1989? That was the year the World Wide Web was invented.

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Get your PMT merch while supplies last at store.barstoolsports.com. Okay, let's get to some segments. Hank, first up, Bachelor Talk for guys that don't watch The Bachelor, but you watch The Bachelor. Well, I was watching First Man, so I was kind of in and out of watching. Okay, fair enough.

The Men Tell All episode. So I missed the beginning, but this is what happened. Luke P showed up to the Rose Ceremony with an engagement ring, despite being sent home by Hannah last episode. Psycho move. Things almost get... That'll work, right?

When you get broken up with the best thing that you can do, is just be like, hey, we're getting married, right? Yeah. Things almost get almost between Luke P and the other guys before Hannah sends him home again. Wait, things almost get almost? That is what Trent sent me. Okay.

Because things almost get almost between Luke P and the other guys before Hannah sends him home again. So I'm guessing this was hot, because the second part that I saw, which was like The Tell All episode, where it's all the cast come back together, it was Luke P and then whatever, the other 20 guys. And the other 20 guys just went down in a line,

just roasting the absolute shit out of Luke P. Like he just stood there. Mike took it. Mike called him a narcissistic, cantankerous misogynist. And then it was just like the next guy roast. Next guy roast. It sounded like a chocolate milk ad right there.

I liked it. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah, it's like the, in his brain, that's like when a woman, if she gets broken up with, then she like fakes a pregnancy, or she like shows an ultrasound, take me back, that sort of thing.

In the dumb guy's brain, it's like, oh, you broke up with me? Well, we're actually engaged, so sorry. Let's just get married, I love you so much. And then finally Hannah had to come out during The Tell All episode and address Bachelor Nation, like she was like a president.

And she was like, she had to apologize for not realizing how much of an asshole Luke P was, and for keeping around as long as she did. She had to be like Bachelor Nation. Like I have, I need to tell you this. Like I'm sorry. Bachelor Nation, listen up. She's sorry for giving him a platform.

Yeah. Okay, so Hannah P, are we? Luke P. Oh no, Hannah. Luke P is P. Hannah B. Hannah B, Luke P. Damn, I get those confused.

So what are we down to? Last three. And who are they? Pilot Pete, Jed. Tennessee Jed. I forgot the third guy. The guy with the sister. The hot guy.

Yeah. Tyler C. The hot guy. Okay, Tyler C. I think we're back at Wake Forest. I don't know. Colton? Okay.

That sounds right. I mean, I don't know. I don't know anything about one of the contestants that was a quarterback at Wake Forest. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so we're-

I think there's two more episodes. All right, and then we're done? Yeah. Maybe one. Interesting. Okay. Stay informed. I feel like that you will draw that out as long as possible.

Yeah, that's probably gonna be two more. It's always funny on Mondays when you just see all the tweets firing off. Oh yeah, this shows on again. Yeah, it's very puzzling. It's so lame that people watch that show, like be a real man and watch three hours of Monday Night raw just so that Stone Cold can come out

for the last five seconds. Mm-hmm. That's what guys do. I don't know who I'm talking about, but yeah, I did that last night. Watched literally every second, just for Stone Cold. Was it worth it? Yeah, I mean, when the glass shatters,

it's always worth it. I could see John Cena pulling that move and just bringing it- He came out of the top, bringing it right out. Be like, hey, we're engaged again. Yes, hey, Nikki Bella, we're back. All right, King State Kings, Andy Reed.

So Andy Reed, when asked what he did in the off season, what was his answer? He just, he just, well, they asked him if he did anything fun or exotic this off season. And his answer was, well, I attacked a couple Chile Rianos. So that's classic Andy Reed, that little gourmand. That also is great because it's Andy Reed, a fat guy move, like he definitely started eating them.

He's like, these are delicious and then ate them for every meal. Mm-hmm. He's like, I got- He's gonna keep him. Hey, what do you think, what do you want for dinner tonight, honey? We're not Chile Rianos, I really liked it last night.

And for lunch. It's such a perfect Andy Reed food too, just the way that I can imagine him saying it. It's like kind of festive. Yeah. And a little bit kind of like wild. He does a little dance, a little cha-cha-cha, when he says it to his wife,

like how about a little Chile Rianos? It's Chile Riano Thursday tonight. Let's go, honey. Yeah, plug it up, plug it up. Just eating all the cheese to stop the run, Andy. Explain it to Hank, what is a Chile Rianos? It is a deep fried poblano pepper that's filled with meats and cheeses.

And sometimes you get wacky with it. It was like some pumpkin seeds. And some sauce around it. And some sauce on the outside. Delicious. And put a little creme fraiche on the outside. Just a real treat of a pepper. But you're eating vegetables.

Yep, deep fried. Deep fried stuff with meat. Yeah, but it's still vegetables. It's like Mexican haggis. Yeah, it's like when you get, what is it, the tempura, like string beans? It's just deep fried vegetables. Yep.

Love it. Best way to do it. All right, thoughts and prayers to USA Basketball. So no one wants to play for USA Basketball. Yeah, everyone keeps bowing out. So they're accepting all the good players. Their roster is down to like, who's on it, Hank? Kevin Love.

Marcus Smart. Jaylen Brown. Harrison Jayson Tatum. It's all Celtics. They just made it all Celtics. Julius Randall. So now Bill Simmons is going to be the US number one basketball fan.

I have a question. Why isn't Mello? Is US basketball having a moment right now? Yeah, Mello should be on it for sure. Why not Mello? You need an old head, right? He should be the guy. I want Mello to keep playing for USA Basketball forever.

Maybe all these players are leaving because they're afraid that they might miss a call from one of us after what happened to Blake last year. Yes. Like they don't want to make the same mistake. Yeah, I guess that's probably true. They get caught up in some weird award that we made up. Did Blake Griffin kill USA Basketball?

People are asking. They're starting to ask. It's a question. It's a question. Maybe they just don't want to be invited to the White House if they win. It's a question. All right, last up, before we get to guys on chicks,

PMT Sports Biz with Jake Marsh who's been killing it for us this summer, let's kick it to that. Good morning. This is Jake Marsh with the PMT Sports Biz Minute. The 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo are exactly one year away. And the official emblem is a harmonized checkered pattern. It features the traditional Japanese color of indigo blue, which expresses a refined elegance and sophistication

that exemplifies Japan. If you were to dissect what the PMT logo represents, you've got a mix of loyalty blue, simplicity is beige, perfection for white, green is harmony, red equals love, and black, the color of mystery. Couldn't have said it better myself. Aaron Boone's rant last week got me thinking. Why the heck do baseball managers wear full uniforms?

Well, in the 19th century, there was something called a captain who determined the batting order, made pitching changes, and more. Basically, what we call a player coach today. And as other sports did this, give me coach O at a helmet in full pads, parlayed with Greg Popovich, and that's your PMT Sports Biz Minute.

Mr. Kat, Mr. Commenter, back to you. Wow, that was informative. Great job. Very cool, Jake. PMT Sports Biz Minute with Jake Marsh. Jake's been doing a great job this summer for real. Mr. Kat, Mr. Commenter. That's not your content.

I've been, I don't want to talk about it. No, no, bleep out that name, as a matter of fact. But OK, can I talk about it real quick? We don't say his name. The Cubs have a player named Robel Garcia. And every time I go to type Robel, I think of Revell and it fucking bothers me. Does it autocorrect on your phone?

Yeah, and it bothers me. That sucks. It bothers me. Once AI services have figured out that I type in that name, at that point, that's when I'm opting out. I am on Fitzgerald's side on this. It fucking sucks.

No phones. Sucks. All right, guys, on chicks, Hank. All right, Jake, send me these. This is a raw run through. OK, raw dog. You go raw dog this bad boy? See how good he's been doing.

Let's see Jake's skin. Hey, boys, especially Hank. I got a spray tan this past week. Oh, yeah, Jake sent you these. Where are you? That's already gone. I got a spray tan this week where you stand naked in a rando tanning salon worker,

sprays your body with tanning magic. My boyfriend's weirded out that I was naked in front of a stranger. My response was, it's less weird than being naked in front of my friends. So can you help my boyfriend settle his argument once and for all? Is it weirder to get a spray tan from a stranger

or to shower with your friend's IE post sports practice? I think it's weirder. What does IE mean? That's like an example. For example. An example? Wouldn't it be an example? I don't know what it stands for.

Inexemplar, such as is what it means. Women, in general, I feel like, are a lot more comfortable being naked. Well, here's the deal. There's not as much of a variance on women's bodies as there is on guys. So here's what I'm getting at. It's easier to look for a woman to look at another woman

with her clothes on and be able to tell, within a reasonable distance, what she might look like naked in terms of all the sizes of the different body parts. With a guy, if you look at a guy, you can't really imagine like, sure, some guys like me have big dick energy. And so they could be like, oh yeah, I bet that guy's walking around with a tuna

can between his legs. But when it comes to women, you can get a pretty good example. I'm looking at you right now, big cat. I have a pretty good example with those tits look like when you pop that top off. Yeah, right? You didn't know? Actually, that's not true.

If you didn't know, you wouldn't know that I have huge nipples. That's true. Well, nipples are a little bit different. OK, well, yeah, that's kind of the point. Nipples are the balls of the chest. They're very different. Every single nipple is made differently.

I think it's very healthy for a woman to get a spray tan from a stranger. They're just a lot more. The question is, is it weirder for naked in front of a stranger and naked in front of your friends? I think it's weirder for I think women, just in general, are more comfortable being naked. Like they do it in front of their friends more often.

As sleepovers. Dudes are a little bit more shy. The only time guys are really comfortable being naked around other guys is when they're making each other jokes about themselves, like Boston balls. It's the straightest thing in the world to look at another naked dude and then make fun of them. Yeah, or doing the old like when you're like,

I got gum on my jeans and it's actually your ball. That joke is not appropriate anymore. Hey, boys, especially you functional drug addict PFT. I'm just going to ride with it. You got it, dude. You made me ride with anti-vaxxing. You can't be upset about it. Listen, we both, I put a lot more needles in my arms

than your son gets. See, my boyfriend and I have been together for two years and he's a huge Steelers fan. I love him, but there's a huge problem. He refuses to have sex with me unless I wear a Troy Paul Moller jersey and a giant Afro wig. This is not real. He only wants to do doggie style and do his mom

Come on, Jake. That's fake. Come on, Jake. Jake, Jake's fakes. I mean, no, that was a real trick because she said, what's up to PFT? Yeah, that's Jake's fakes. Hey, big cat PFT and Jake,

I bet you're all wondering why I didn't acknowledge Hank. That's where my relationship issues start. My boyfriend and I are added fans of PMT. We listen to every episode, but for some reason he is intimidated by sweet young Hank. Crazy, right? If I laugh at something Hank says during an episode, it's treated like I just cheated on him

in front of his face. I believe this. I can never agree with Hank's Mount Rushmore's, so it's basically a debate between PFT and big cat, which is the equivalent to comparing shit to throw up because they're both equally awful. How do I get my boyfriend to get over his jealousy for Hank? It's made our relationship very stressful

and has almost ruined the podcast for me, which is awful because I consider myself an AWL. Thanks very much. I believe this. Advice would be greatly appreciated from our relationship and more importantly from my love for PMT. So how do you get over being jealous of young Hank Lockwood?

I think Hank has to shave. I think that's really the only way. Or we can help your relationship by reminding everyone that Hank can't get hard. That's not true. That's true. Well, look, hey, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. If PFT's not a drug guy, you can get hard.

We all have to deal with these things. We all have to tell one lie about everybody else on the podcast that you just have to roll with. See how it goes around? I guess, whatever. Hank, here's the solution. Hank, just stop being so charming all the time on the show. You're a very charming person.

And honestly, I get a little bit jealous of you sometimes too. I 100% believe this because PFT and I are a little older and funnier than Hank. And so when Hank says something and she's probably right around Hank's age, so he's the attainable one, where we're like, we're like away out of our league. We're fucking stars.

Yeah, she might as well wish to go fly to the moon to get with one of us. But when it's Hank, it's like, oh yeah, that's just my harmless experience. It'd be like saying you don't care about Vinny Chase because he's unattainable. You're like, oh, I really have the hots for a turtle. Yeah.

Hank, just, or E, or E. She'll laugh at that one. You watch Entourage, too? Yes, she does, OK. Hank, say something non-threatening. Say something to kind of bring yourself down a peg real quick. Just help this person's relationship. Read a chocolate milk ad.

That's the thing. I don't think I'm very impressive on the show. Hank, it's nice to know that someone thinks so. I want you to tell this listener that you're not going to sleep with this girlfriend. I'm not going to sleep with your girlfriend. There you go. That should be enough.

Yeah. Because you can't. Sub-Davenbusters, guys. My friend and I were debating the other day. What's the difference between a side bitch and a side piece? Whoa. Is there one, Jake? That's offensive language.

That's very offensive. Side peace. We don't say that. Set me up, Jake. Set him up. Bad questions. Go to the last one. What's up, fellas?

I honestly think that's a terrible question, Jake. I'll tell you what it is. I think a side bitch is the same thing. What about my side hoe? A side bitch is something. What about a slam piece that you make up if you don't actually have a side piece? What about my fuck buddy?

You're like, oh, I got a side bitch. No, that person doesn't exist if you're calling her a side bitch. Yo, I don't even like this chick. Yeah, fuck her. I just fuck her every weekend and go to the brunch with her. But I don't like her. Yeah, her mom's cool. And her dad is like my best friend.

This totally real slam hoe keeps testing it. She's never going to be my girlfriend. Sup? Oh, what's up, Dadcat, PFT, and Fisherman of the Year? Hang on. I'm a waitress. That's how you know, because I usually try and filter them out, because I know when I say myself,

you guys like this one, true. I'm a waitress at a well-known restaurant and have recently slept with a guy who is a regular. Turns out he has slept with a lot of waitresses. Should we confront him, refuse him service, or just decline his advances? P.S., it's not Dave and Buster's. OK.

Yeah, no, it's Perkinson's Tiger Woods. Yeah, it's a very specific type of game that you have to have to be able to pick up a waitress too. I've never had that, because it's like a very narrow time frame that you have to initiate the pickup line, then follow up on it, and all that stuff. Like, there's a certain sleaze factor.

Because if you are routinely picking up people at restaurants, that means you've probably fucked in your Toyota Camry multiple times in an awesome car. Yeah. I'll go one step at a very average car. Because you can afford to eat out at restaurants all the time, so you have a great car. But go to Applebee's with your Toyota Camry,

and you watch Andy Dalton. I'm going to take it one step further. Anybody that routinely picks up on anyone at work, if you're picking up women at their place of business on a consistent basis, that's just kind of a weird move too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is kind of a legend, though. Kind of a total legend.

I mean, in some absolute ledge, to your friends who call women slam pieces and slam bitches, you are definitely a ledge. Big time ledge. My slam piece over at Outback. Yeah, she hit me up. I probably won't fuck her tonight. She was like, OK, we'll see everyone Friday.

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