Pardon My Take - Alabama HC Nate Oats, NBA Trade Deadline And Sweet 16

Episode Date: March 26, 2021

The NBA trade deadline saw a flurry of action and we talk winners and losers (2:35 - 14:50). The Bears are trolling Big Cat but he has a plan to fight back (14:50 - 19:46). Sweet 16 preview and we welcome on Alabama Head Coach Nate Oats to talk about the tourney, math, Hurley brothers, and more (19:46 - 70:23). We finish with Fyre fest of the weekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Like, you know what the biggest trade was the raptors kept Kyle Lowry. That's right Yeah, you know, did you see that Drake got on FaceTime with Kyle Lowry last night after the game my guide? I've been listening to some Drake recently not I'm starting to come around on this guy I think he might be the future around so keep your eye on this young little buck You realize that that take was just terrible. What did Drake sucks? It might it might have been one of my worst takes not my stronger one I still I'm coming around. I don't know. I'm reserving the right to still think that Drake is corny That's fine. But his songs are awesome. I think he might yes, he might have some talent his songs go as the kids say

He's growing as an artist. What do you say, Hank? More hits than the Beatles more hits than the Beatles bigger than Jesus Yeah, uh, so but there were some big moves obviously your bulls got better, right? The bulls got a lot better the bulls basically took the entire garpax Regime and threw it in the trash can today, which was awesome. Vucevich coming to Chicago for Wendell Carter junior and two protected first round picks. There's nothing worse than the um Fans out there that just want to hold on to all the picks forever

Instead like assets if they if it was a trade for just a random guy, I'd understand it But like vooch is he's an all-star two-time all-star. He's perfect for Zach Levine The bulls are finally saying hey instead of let's just be middling all the time and end up with the seventh or eighth pick That means nothing. Maybe we put someone around Zach Levine that can actually Bring the best out of him and go for the playoffs and I'm all in I'm sick of of missing the playoffs and getting the seventh pick and getting a guy that we have to wait on and hope is good and The NBA if you don't have the first or second, maybe you could throw in the third pick. You're kind of in a crapshoot

Yeah, it's buddy bayheim no matter what right words of kevin costner and draft day I so the NBA is a little bit different from the NFL because like in the NFL Like we talked about you make the playoffs you get that extra week You get to read the articles all that stuff and the NBA unless you're like one of the top two or three teams In your conference. It's like well, we might as well not have made the playoffs Well, but all right So here's the counterpoint to that and what the bulls are doing and I actually am fully in support of it If you want to eventually be a team that can win in the playoffs you have to make the playoffs

You have to have a culture of hey We're trying to compete and then maybe some guys some veterans some free agents can see that franchise Destination like oh, I maybe want to go there. There's two all-stars there Instead of saying like oh, let's just keep losing and hope that we get the number one pick Luckily somehow like eventually you have to put your foot in the sand and say we're going one way or the other And I'm happy they're actually because Zach Levine is too good for them to tank You know what you have to do you have to build a foundation You have to have a solid foundation then be like there are a couple nice pieces away from contending

And then you get the pieces after that. I'm excited. I'm a little bit bummed out about our magic Our Orlando, they're fully tanking which they're doing they're big sellers right now That was a that was a wild week that we had like six months ago with the Orlando magic Was punching way above because nobody liked them. Yeah, and and they played like two nice games. I think yeah So they they traded uh Aaron gordon to the to the nuggets who are I I love what the nuggets are doing The nuggets are basically saying hey, we're gonna try to win a title They traded vooch to the bowls and then uh, you guys got the south has got evan fornie Who he did the classic google my name and everyone googled it and it's uh

A terrible disease on your dick and scrotum Really? Yeah, his last one. Yeah gangrene. Yeah, if you look if you google it Is it only on your dick and scrotum? I think so look google it google his last name that would it would be a great name for Lamello balls. Yeah, it's uh, it's something else. It's it's quite something foreign. Yeah I feel like this is another year though where the Celtics did the the non trades everyone was expecting. Oh Yeah, it's bad. Nothing happened. It's very bad. He did it. He he tweeted it Yeah, it's very bad. Where's that blue off? Uh, you traded daniel, uh I'm gonna keep calling them theas

Is that okay? Thais thais thais But why if his name's thais then sell it spelt like a real football guy like mike thais, okay? German for german trade though. Yeah, he's good. I'm a wagner. I haven't wagner. Whatever. See he was a bull for like a minute spelled with a w Uh, I haven't seen him play since like the college days. That's gonna be thais is good. Yeah Well, his brother's on michigan. So you can maybe watch him and be like, oh, yeah the vodner twins. Yeah vons vogue Yeah, the um, I do I am very very excited about what the bulls did Obviously, they're not like a title contender, but they will hopefully make the playoffs now and they're gonna play fun basketball because I I watch every bull's game. I I a lot of nights. I'm like, why am I doing this?

But if you watch them, you know that zack levine when he plays with the young guys It's like not getting the most out of them and now he has some veterans around him Some guys that can play and it will be very fun to watch It's also going to be fun to watch the nuggets because they got javill mcgee too I just javill mcgee. How many times has he been traded? How many teams has he played on? He has played on I think like half the teams in the nba I'm gonna say five I think it's more than that. Well, you're at 15. I'm taking the uh, you're at 15. I'm at five. Yeah

Um, what other uh, oh oladipo oladipo to miami's a great trade. Yeah the rockets somehow The james harden trade now is going to look even more because now they have nothing from that George hill to the sixers. What do you say? All the george has got traded all the gary's second time on the nuggets. Okay. So how many different teams? 17? 17? yep, um, gear All the gary's got traded jj reddick to the mavericks. Yeah, gary harris got traded to uh, or sorry gary trent jr Got traded to the uh raptors and it was pointed out online

I saw someone say that gary trent jr. So gary trent senior also played in the nba gary trent senior named his sons gary trent jr gary son Grayson and graydon. Oh, that would suck to be graydon. Yeah graydon was he that one was very much Just like trying to make that last one happen. Yeah, he was he basically just did a word scramble with gary Yeah, if you're gonna go for that do the george foreman be like this is george. This is also george or or do the um, Who did oh gary patin had? Two sons with different mothers and one was gary patin jr. One was gary patin the third

I like that. What's the difference between junior and second? That's crazy. I don't know. Yeah I think second is in order to be a junior you have to have first middle and last all on Yes, but if you want to do a second you can do uh like first name and last name But middle name is different. I think and then that's I don't know what the rules I got it. Here it is both are used to identify that the person is the second in the family Junior is used when the son has the same name as the father the second is used when the elder family member is anyone other than the father What? I don't know. I just read it. That made it way more confusing. It sounds like. Huh? Yeah

I'm very yeah. I have no idea what you just said. So if you weren't the first born you can't be junior You gotta be the second wait. That's what it means. I don't know. I think it is cool Like if you if you're an mba son grandfather uncle or cousin uses the second Okay If your son had a son and named him That's interesting the heat also are getting lamarcus aldridge. Oh, when you look at like the easter conference finals Can he jump still like that? The heat are going for it. The Celtics haven't done shit. So it's like you can see that the heat are like trying to get better

Make another run. I like it. I actually you know what? I'm gonna take back what I said at the beginning This trade deadline is fire emoji. Oh shit. Yeah, it's back. Chef. He was right Did now did he say fire emoji or did he tweet the fire tweet the fire emoji? Uh, woj also Now we are shams podcast, but he got he got worked by woj. Woj did the Did the classic like oh people think that I've lost my fastball Well, here's 101 on the black. Do you think that woj wakes up in the morning on trade deadline? He's got all these drafted ready to go because he knows exactly what's going to happen Uh, like uh, oh, we can't say his name like a rebel super bowl day. Exactly. Yeah, I don't know

That'll be yeah, I mean you It was a good It was a lot of like different trades and different moves and I do like that. There's some teams I just like whenever there's uh teams that are really like, hey, let's try to win and then the full tank rockets And rockets might be the worst team ever and the magic Um, you also Hank, so what are your thoughts overall because you guys you got luke cornet who is robidori 2.0 according to jim boilin That's cool I like I said you look at the eastern conference finals last year the heat have made improvements

They're going for the selts aren't really doing shit and their team is not as good as they were last year going into the trade deadline Didn't get air and gordon We kept marcus march. I was happy about some selts fans We're you know trying to like well actually me telling me that we need to get rid of marcus march I disagree so i'm happy we kept them but overall i'm disappointed and I don't like I there's no way we're winning There's no way we're being that's there's no like we're probably not going to be the heat again How long do you think that is where there's really there's really only a few teams that like are going to make the finals How long do you think it's going to take for dany age to leak a report saying how close they were to getting their target and free agents

Yes, the joke everyone's making people are saying dany age is going to be in the hot seat I don't know it has been a long time where if I was brad even there was a time where dany age was like the guy Trader dany has all these picks those picks and really amount of shit And now You know what are we doing he he actually was genius in that you just hoard picks and everyone can be like well We're going to do something eventually less of the thunder doing but that that's where it's like They hoard picks every trade deadline. They're in it. They're like oh, they can get this guy Because they have so many picks but they never do anything. I also saw that bull bull was trending for a while today

I guess that's the new thing is to be like the nuggets are adding pieces around bull bull I do want to see him get more minutes because There's nothing sweeter than seeing bull bull run the floor and do a behind the back dribble He's smooth. He looks like a magician. Uh, shout out kedrick perkins who Called the chicago bulls acquisition boost a bitch, which I kind of like that Yeah, so I'm I might just go with that and start here here was he was struggling with it I'm all in on that sell the boost a bitch jerseys Uh, but yeah, it was cool

That the mba trade deadline actually had some moves because I feel like we've had a few that haven't had that Um, any other thoughts quickly on trade deadline anything anyone hot stove league hot stove league Um, Kyle Lowry the big news. Oh Uh, Lou Williams got gets to go to magic city. Yeah, that's huge. Yeah, a lot of people made that joke Get the lemon pepper wings. Yeah, I did hand up. I did that one Uh, lemon pepper wings are like ever since that story came out. I've just been putting lemon pepper on everything Not just wings it makes literally literally everything better. Wait, that's also Kind of right before I started developing kidney stones. Mm-hmm worth it worth it. Yes. Um, let me think. Oh

Uh, fuck. Oh, yeah, so rondo's on the clippers that will be interesting to watch rondo bother Like hopefully the clippers and the lakers play in the playoffs and we get to see playoff rondo do it to the lakers The bronze stopper that's why they got rondo there. Yeah rondo really was the reason why they won the title Yeah, rondo is a guy that also he has the revenge factor and like he carries grudges I like mean rondo when he gets mad at people. He's more effective. So, uh, yeah I mean, I don't really expect the clippers to do jack shit in the playoffs again this year But also be nice to see him out there people were being really mean to ad on on twitter The last couple days, which I didn't appreciate. So that was the other big story. Oh about what?

I'm actually talking about andy dalton. I'm thinking about doing a rebrand form. Okay. What do you think? Do you like that? I just tried that out ad is not bad Right, like if we just start calling him ad people like hey, that's not bad How sick would andy dalton look with a red unibrow too dude? Like when you say, oh, yeah ad is gonna ball out this year I don't know it kind of kind of makes me feel like it. I'm Qb1 I am very very close to I even texted our friend, uh pearl off Who's part of the dan patrick show because he is probably the biggest ad stand out there

I texted him. I was like, hey, we probably need to get together in the next week or two So you can just give me all your notes because I think With the way the bears are just trolling everyone. I think I'm gonna get in on the troll I think I'm gonna be an ad guy I love that that the main account from your team is so self-aware that they made a meaningless move That they're trolling twitter by putting out qb1 graphics of any dalton photoshop They've actually been on fire. Yeah, it's it's I love it personally if I was a bear's I would have to do what you're doing, which is just like talk yourself all the way into it

What about the dull train all aboard all trains pretty good. The bears have been on fire. They did ad Boxing and then they did the band getting back together and it was a special teams unit It was it was the oh, you mean you mean we fence. Yeah as ronzo put it They're just trolling everyone I guess at some point if you're so bad and you piss everyone off just be like it's just a prank guys Yeah, there's just a fucking joke. They got andy dalton for the re-tweets ad Say it again. They they got ad for the cloud. That sounds way better. Yeah, doesn't it? I think yeah I think I'm gonna be an ad guy. I like that you're talking yourself into it

I'm I'm starting to talk myself in in the football team news I was dismayed when I woke up yesterday because I saw the report that dan snider was buying out the uh All the shares of the minority owners, which is people are saying it's because The report on how big of a creep dan snider is is about to come out and turns out he's just a normal creep allegedly So he's going to have to keep the team and um, it's pretty much as close to a death sentence Per a fan as you can get because dan sniders is going to outlive me I know I've I've accepted that a long time ago even though he's like 30 years older He's got all the good billionaire medicine. I would guess he's got a shithead son, right?

He's got a son. I don't know any I don't know. I mean the odds are he will become one odds are That if you grow up with dan snider as your role model, you probably but I don't know that I might be way off on that We'll hold back. Yeah, he's going to be the owner of the football team For my entire life And so now I'm having to figure out a way to spin zone myself into that I'm just saying like maybe maybe the problem was dan didn't have enough control Maybe the the CEO of fedex was the one that was screwing everything up. I mean, yeah, I've seen castaway It could be yeah, those guys fuck everything up. They just first sign of any sort of uh,

Adversity they start opening up other people's packages I don't trust them. Just spend yourself off the planet of the earth. I'm a ups guy. I'm a ups guy I'm just like a top spinning. I'm a dreidel just spinning at all times just trying to figure out a way I don't care though because the bulls made good moves and I'm down. I'm in with ad I think I'm all in on dan snider today dan snider. Just a normal creep. There you go. Perfect Um, all right, let's get to let's do some talk about the sweet 16 coming up Uh, before we do that movement watches are back Uh, in a tiny apartment in southern california two college dropouts teamed up to create a watch company that broke all the rules

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What jake did. Yeah was you just did it like the committee because yeah, yeah, yeah, okay Yeah, the reseed and the uh, bamma twice was it was a great touch. Yeah, it happens. Yeah He's j. Billis did the same thing. I know he was probably listening to our show Yeah, all right. J. Billis doesn't fucking follow anyone on twitter. You're such a hardo, dude Uh, the 160 matchup is Gonzaga or roberts 89 kraton villanova Okay, keep going 512. Do you want me to go in order or say the match up? No, just say the list. Okay Gonzaga, baler, michigan, alabama, houston, arkansas, fsu, kraton, villanova, usc, oregon, loyola,

Syracuse, ucla, oregon state or rock. I think loyal is too high there Yeah, they should be loyal fans were not happy with me when I did a factual thing Well, yeah, no respect Like relax relax. Yeah, they also have a very like what's gonna happen. What you should have realized jake Is that loyal has a path to the final four here that's not that hard So you should have put them higher because now it's gonna happen They're gonna get to the final four and you're gonna look like you don't think they will buy a Syracuse But yes, if it wasn't Syracuse, yes, they're gonna get back. Okay. So loyal and Oregon state playing the first game

Sister gene has refused to release her scouting report publicly She said because Oregon state might be listening So she's around her little cauldron wagging her eye of newt making all these predictions Looking in the reflection of whatever toad broth that she's got boiling up. Uh, I love I love loyal in this the the problem is Oregon state They are a team that has been so hot and I made the decision to start betting on them back in the pack 12 conference Tournament and it has paid off Wonderfully, so I'm pot committed. Okay. It's a you gotta see guy taking the points and just you know

I want loyal to win but I if there's seven points in a game that's going to be very low scoring Give it to me. Uh, Baylor's gonna truck Villanova. Put it on a board Put it on a quote board and I love Villanova Villanova fans. We've been through the ringer many years Uh, but yeah, Baylor. I've seen that Baylor team. They're gonna truck you somebody asked us who was paying us to not talk about Baylor And I wish somebody was paying. I'm doing that stuff in that program. I love my heart You should actually pay us to not talk about Baylor if you're a Baylor fan. Yes Jailer, uh Or roberts arkansas

Arkansas is gonna kill him must bust all the way must bust. We just won on the record We mean we talked about it with needles, but we are must bust guys That kevin bacon story didn't change your opinion at all kevin bacon story or roberts footloose Yeah, well, uh, the head coach was in a barber shop and uh, he heard kevin bacon was getting a facial in the back Whoa, okay, that's serious like face facial What would you mean explain it then kevin came out the back and the head coach was like Hey, you like your facial and kevin was like, yeah, you look like you need a couple like saying like his face looked like shit So then the head coach goes. Yeah, I got it. Thank you head coach goes

Well, i'm not wearing any panties. So What? Yeah, I don't really understand. They almost got in a fight. Yeah When you should have kicked kevin bacon's ass when was this that was the word for it I actually I take points off the oral roberts coach if kevin bacon talks shit to you Yeah, we had him in the studio kevin bacon is about my size. Wait, hold on. Hold on swing on that So two dudes almost got in a fight at a facial factory 20 plus years ago barber shop 20 plus years ago. Wait, wait, this wasn't like yesterday. Yeah, this has nothing. Oh my god

Okay, all right, come on by a million not even with the points. No, fuck. Oh I'm taking the points just for that. I'm also. I think we've reached the The end of oral roberts jokes that like i'm ready for them to be gone. Yeah It's it's it's the perfect amount. Yeah, it's it's over. I think circuits is gonna win on some saturday night jake Buddy me too. I mean hughston should not like they ruckers blew that game. Yeah, I ruckers should have beat him I'm all over hughston or i'm all over circuits too because like the zone Right, and like if the number one graphic keeps shooting well, they're gonna win. Yeah. Yeah, so you had buddy bayhem on your podcast Yes, um, and you told him that I had a number one on my big board

Yes, he seemed to think that like in the back of his head. He's like, oh nice. I'm finally getting the respect No, he said it was a joke. Oh, okay. Good. He's like, I know it's a joke. I didn't watch the whole clip. It was too long It's like 55 seconds. Well, I just he gave me the retweet. That's all that matters the retweet That was all that matters 35 seconds too long. What's the other bayhams name jimmy jimmy plays at cornell Yeah, so I heard a rumor on the street that jimmy was thinking about doing a grad transfer to syracuse next year That would be great play for his past but the the bayhame twins buddy comes back. Yeah, I don't know if they're twins. I don't We bother trouble. Yeah, that's better when they're twins. Oh, okay guys like twins. They're all twins, right? All right sunday

Gun all right, let me see if I can do this right because everyone gets really mad gun zat. No Gonzaga, Gonzaga, Gonzaga. How do you pronounce it? It's a it's a long a zaga. Gonzaga The Gonzaga. It sounds like a panda gone. Gonzaga Gonzaga gone Gonzaga They're like zaga fans are very mad this this zaga. Yeah, you guys are gonna win you guys win at all You don't think so. I think they're getting upset against krayton. Yep with the p word. It's so chalky that it's do you remember the p word? Yeah, you can't you can't win a title. I mean they've won two games. It's the opposite of a team of destiny at that point

Oh aoc the return of aoc That would be yeah, you you are the biggest aoc fan. I know aoc upsetting washington again. Yep. There it is Uh florida st michigan I don't know who's gonna win this game. Hey, how many people get mad at you for any aoc tweet that you put out? A lot A lot. It's shocking. People get mad at you guys when I tweet on aoc. I got mad at me that I had the same day I had aoc to you and then I also Uh, david duke parentheses providence because he hit a game where you shot. Oh, I learned that the hard way In the beginning of the season fiesty told me. Yeah, I think jake was like david duke is amazing

Can't say that can't say it at all I do love the people that snitch tagged to me and big cat like hank made a political reference Lock them up. Um, all right. So florida state michigan. I don't know this game I Yeah, this game's gonna be good and I don't know who's gonna win. I it's a terrible my heart says michigan My heart says florida state. Unfortunately I just feel like they're Florida state's always good for one big win in the tournament and then to lose the next game

Big ten needs it and everyone says lennard hamilton like can you believe it? He's one of the best coaches that hasn't been to a final four and also how old is he now 72 He looks like he's 40. Yeah, it's incredible. My friend did a rossinism ages like fine wine That's good. That's a great one. Yeah, so you make that up. I'm gonna give you as much silence as possible after that Just to make it as awkward as possible say no No, say it again. Say it again. We'll react. He's 72 say it again. Leonard hamilton ages like fine wine Yeah It's my friend

It's a big sheesh. You could just say that you came up with it. I don't even think it's a rossin. I think that's a common thing Anything that's old it's like Leonard hamilton timeless wonder. Yeah All right, whatever All right, UCLA. Bama We have nato it's on we have had macron it on like rossin would have been ages like a Shitty movie from the 90s. Yeah still is good ages like yeah ages like face off What do you mean shitty moody shitty movie with face off right? Well, it's an incredible movie. Well, that stood up to the test of time Yeah, it should do one actor plays the other guy jake to do a full rossin

You gotta tell your friend to do a full rossin and it can't be a common saying it has to be a saying that makes no sense Really and has no real comedic. Yeah, like they an altman of organ in the rubik's cube right and then just like twinkies right and then eventually Yeah, right ages like twinkies and then eventually If you just hammer people with it enough, they're like, ah, that's funny. That's the rossinism. That's how you do it Ages like a painting. Yeah Ages like a rock That's that would be yeah ages like the earth Over three billion how many how many years uh 60,000 60,000 years 60,000 years old. That's it. That's it. Yeah, no

Yeah, yeah earth so young drick would hit it 4.5 43 billion. Yeah That's just a fact read your bible Yeah, oh billy scott 65 million years ago as the dinosaurs died There it is Thank you billy. It'd be sick though if the earth was like mad young still. Yeah, just and we're just all it's acne Yeah, we're just dealing with it. Yeah, we're just getting through some growing pains. Um, you still a bamma Anyone I like bamma is UCLA a team of destiny

UCLA is fun and I like micron and and yes, whenever I tweet out a picture of him It's just because I'm taller than him. That's pretty much the only reason why Uh, I I do like him being an outlier in LA. It's very funny to me that that mr. Cincinnati Yes is like the blue collar UCLA guy, but um, I think I got to go bamma It might just be because we interview natives that actually might be what pushed me over the top And my my allegiance can be bought very easily for the cost of one interview on the show But I think um, I'll they've just been scoring to like

96 points against maryland to me that made me feel like alabama might reach the final four they go nuclear Uh, I if mic cronin he he kind of screwed up, but I know you it's it's Hindsight 2020 you don't know how long you're last in the tournament But the whole storyline of not seeing his dad not hugging his dad for two years or a year and a half whatever it's been He used he used it in the first weekend. He should have brought his dad out for this weekend Then they win this game. I truly believe that yeah So and have cronin in the in the uh stands and being like man after this game They're gonna get the hug they somehow find a way a dad game is a game changer

It is and then Oregon USC, which will be great. We really should have bill walton calling this I hope he does like a live stream or something and just cuck cbs that would be awesome But i'm excited for this game and the mobility twins. Yeah, uh, aren't twins, but they are I think I like usd Conference champions. Yeah, they're the they're the uh That's yeah, I this is how stupid Like gamblers are and people in the world and how we watch games I think if you flipped when those games were played everyone would be like organ's gonna win I'm just still organ had beaten Iowa in the night cap versus

USC beating, Kansas in the 11 o'clock game. I think everyone Yeah recency by yeah, I think I'm I'm also mad at at organ for beating Iowa because hank convinced me to bet on uh On Iowa and then that screwed up my entire 17 parlay All right fucked up. Okay. Thanks. That's a fair. I took Iowa They're not bad. Well, I also look at organ and I also saw a tweet that was like a it was really the under the I saw tweet those. You were on Iowa. I said the under I said Iowa and the under and you talked me into organ in the over Wait, no, then you talked you into the I know no sorry. You talked me into Iowa and the under got it Yeah, I had the I had the opposite of what happened two ways, but I think that organ

So this was their first game Now i'm like, okay now they're in the tournament. They're not as fresh They had the freshness advantage over Iowa last week All I said all I said to pft and this is fair in hindsight Was like if you bet on organ and they come out and throw an absolute stinker, how dumb are you going to feel? I didn't say bet Iowa, but I was oh, no You're on the way we were on the way to the airport I and you were like should I bet Iowa organ? I was like, well if you bet organ and they come out

They haven't played a game yet on unchartered territory and they suck You're gonna look like an idiot. Yeah, that's totally different and I did take that under Yeah Well, it's okay. It happens. Hey gotta lose some you gotta give some back, right? All right, let's do our interview. We have Nate oates coach of alabama who will be coaching in a game on sunday against ucla Ready to go before we do that simply safe if you have 30 free minutes you never have to worry about a break in at home ever again That is how quick and easy it is to set up a security system from simply safe

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So that you know that we are tried and true must bust guys and tom kreen guys So we've known tom kreen coach kreen for uh, actually like many years now four years We visited Georgia a couple times and we're also must bust guys. So Maybe if you're not watching, uh, coach oates is now ripping up a piece of paper that said bashing tom kreen and and coach musselman And he's throwing that in the trash. No, we're good. We're good. So I No, we're good. Listen. I'm from Wisconsin originally. So I used to actually work coach kreen's camps at marquette Back when I was like a d3 assistant. So I've known Tom forever and at times actually been good to me since I've been in the league

I used to michigan stake. I was in detroit for 11 years. So I know top Me and tom are good musselman. I coached against him when he was at nevada and I was at buffalo We came into the league together at the same time. He's done a great job. I mean, I respect that kind of him He's you beat me when he's at nevada They shoot they beat us at their place pretty good this year. So we're all good. All right. Good. So you actually just brought it up I was gonna ask this later on in the interview But from wisconsin got your graduate degree from the university of wisconsin where I went and then coached high school in Detroit area. So how much can I attribute alabama's run to the big 10? 90 percent 95 percent?

Like I'm counting this as a win for the big 10. Is that okay? Yeah, we're Wisconsin native or big 10 country like I mean, whatever you want. I mean, you're the boss Whatever you want, you know, just Attribute it how you want. Okay. Look, we play a lot. We play a lot different than wisconsin though I mean, we're not I don't know if you like wisconsin style of play or you know, like but we're We're definitely not Playing like the badgers, but I'm a big I'm a badger fan now I'm obviously an albino football fan being down here, but you know, I was the basketball coach before I got to albino

I was always pulling for a badger football. Well, I know at at buffalo You were incorporating things into your practices that were very very big 10 Like I don't know if you still do them But you do things you would add like extra points you had your own scoring system, right for like hustle plays Which I assume I don't know like diving for a loose ball taking a charge Keeping a block shot in bounds those sorts of plays. Are you still doing that down in the sec at alabama? Yeah, no, we still do we call our blue collar points We give out a hard hat at the end and so maybe the helmets football ish, you know, it's more like a construction hard hat, but

And we try we try to value the uh The dirty dry me Like you know, so I was in detroit 11 years. I used to go to michigan states practice So some more big 10 stuff a lot is always have like the shoulder pads and the Helmets in there ready to like throw the pads on for a rebounding drill or whatever So we haven't broke we haven't broke out any shoulder pads or helmets or any of that stuff But we we still do the whole scoring system. Yeah, you got a little research. I see. Yeah, yeah Pft so I was on I was going to bring up like I must have been all right on the jv show

I was on the the bench mob show is that like I go back like I like go back to my high school days like my freshman year in high school I play well enough on jv and then they moved me up to varsity. Yeah, is that what happened here? We went back and we watched the film I assigned you some blue collar points for some of your answers in that interview So I was like, yeah, I think I think we're ready to move them up and see if you can he can take a charge in the big leagues here Yes, absolutely. I went from jv to varsity now. I'm on the varsity with the barstool sports. No, I Yes, you are so all right. So you you uh to just go back to your

Uh, what you said a minute ago. No, I do not like wisconsin style of play I much prefer what you've done at alabama. It's fun. It's exciting The thing I don't understand. I can't wrap my head around and obviously this is why you uh are a great coach and have had so much success How the heck do you get your team to play so fast and also play great defense? Those have never gone together In basketball, it's never you know what I mean? Like you think of the fastest teams the running gun Even like the seven seconds or less suns like the the idea of pushing the pace but also playing great efficient defense How have you done that? That's like a big j journalist question right there. Yeah, well because it baffles me. I'm curious. Yeah

Come up with that on your owner to jake feed you that one. No, I I came up with my own. I'll tell you why a coach I'll tell you exactly how I came up with my own because I did you guys your offense is so much fun to watch and Shoot so many threes that I would start to take overs for alabama games But then they would not hit because you guys were playing too good at defense And I was like what the fuck is going on here? And then I was like, oh crap They're ruining it on the defense event because a team that plays at that pace should always go over

And sure we do we like to get up and down but when the defense is really good It takes the other team a long time to figure out a score than a slow stuff up a little bit So like I I mean, it's a good question. We we've always played open free It kind of goes back to my high school coaching days in detroit We had athletes all over and Did a bunch of skill development open the floor up. So I it's always been my philosophy But I think when you give them as much freedom as we give them on offense

You can demand a lot more about out of them on defense. So There's a little give and take like we're going to let you play On the offensive end, but in return we're going to demand a lot out of you on the defensive end and I I don't think pace of play correlates to Defensive efficiency at all which you can tell I mean we're top three in the country and defensive efficiency We've been number one for a few weeks and kind of fluctuate But you know on our offense is one of the fastest is not the fastest in power five

So I think we can still push the pace on offense and then demand a lot out of them on defense and get stopped So Yeah, I mean we're proving you can do it right now. We did it at Buffalo too. I looked my last year at Buffalo I think we were 21st in the country offensive efficiency Maybe we were top five in the country in scoring and then we were 31st in the country defensive efficiency, which is Not not easy to do it a mid major because it's all You know based on somewhat on your opponents and stuff too. So

Yeah, yeah How are things going for you inside the bubble because you're a high energy guy I expect a lot of the coaches that are still remaining for the most part There's some young guys. There's some like guys that'll bounce off the wall don't like being cooped up in In a room for too long. Are you having to like schedule activities to counter your boredom? Make sure you don't sit around like gnawing your paws off like like a high energy dog that you leave alone in the house Or like what how have you adapted to to living in this bubble environment? So that's that's a good question

We uh, the first day was bad because it literally made us just sit in this room that I'm saying and like the whole day We got the covid test. We got him sunday night after we uh Won the sec tournament and then all day long They finally let us out of like nine at night after we got two negative covid tests Since then so they've got uh, this victory field the baseball field. So I go for Ronda, I gotta get outside. I don't know about you. I can't stay inside all day that I've been out Victory field a few times last night. We went to the zoo Uh, I've been trying to work out a little bit. I don't look you're good. I moss

Was actually really smart. I you know, he I think he puts out a social media video every Three hours or something. So you see everybody knows what he's got going on He brought the peloton. Do you guys you guys saw that or not? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah, like that was smart You know, I I was like, dang that would have been smart, you know, like then you could actually work out in your room Instead I have to sign up for the six a.m. Slot and I'm not You know, I wasn't real motivated to get up at six a.m. To uh Go for a run, but I uh, I've been outside a little bit. We're uh, We're gonna order some what we're gonna order a pool table and arcade game in for our pool

Well, here's our meeting room. It's supposed to be coming tonight. So I like to shoot a little pool. We uh What else we got going on? Oh, we're going to uh, Top golf tonight. They're kind of letting us out of our little Oh, nice Yeah, we're I'm terrible. My golf game stinks But you know, you know, maybe I hit one out there a little bit play. Yeah, I like the idea Of going to the zoo. I'm a big fan of zoos like you if you have a bad time at a zoo I don't think that I can be friends with you. It would just never work out. What what did you guys do at the zoo?

I was all about it. I Was in there. I mean, you know, what do you do at a zoo? Stare at the animals. Yeah The uh, what where are you where are you guys left? What is there a sewer? Where are you guys left? We got the bronx zoo Uh, we got the central park zoo, which I think has two lemurs and a couple penguins And then some like depressed players that are like, I don't why am I living in new york city? I don't I don't get this Um, so yeah, we don't it's not it's not a great zoo. That's really close by but anytime I go to the zoo

It's it's like the highlight of my year. Yeah, some of our guys were like all fired up How about one of our guys had never been to a zoo before we took him last night? I didn't know that would be possible for a college age kid. I love that. Yeah Seeing those big animals for the first time, it'll blow your mind. Yeah, and you know at alban we got the elephant So the whole team got our picture taken in front of the elephant You know, we got the the rule tied with the elephant. I still haven't I work at alban. I'm still not quite sure how You know, we're the crimson tide But our mascots an elephant we're like

Maybe you guys can do some research. Maybe it might be a big j journalist kind of research project one of these days I think this might just it might be completely wrong But I think the crimson tide was named after a big j journalist Who uh, he wrote an article about an alabama football game And he said that alabama's players were washing over the opponent like a crimson tide out there on the field And so they named the entire program After a column which is I mean that's like the peak of journalism right there So you're gonna claim like that was the original big j journalist that wrote that cup because that is the story they've given

Like that they ran over him like a crimson tide It's like a herd of elephants stampeding down the field or something like that. That was the original big j journalist I think so. Yeah, and and actually we we had a we had a debate last saturday Uh, we were talking about alabama football. I've seen some pictures of you at the games You obviously like having grained yourself in the culture of the school a little bit Do you think that if you were to coach alabama's football team as a basketball team How many wins do you think you could have gotten this season with those athletes? Sure, man. They're they got some pretty good athletes, right? Like davante smith could probably get up and down on our pace a little bit

I think mac mack jones was mac jones be a quarter, you know, he's actually good Bryce young uh, brace young. I've seen brace young play a little hoop. You know, he was back up quarterback He can hoop a little bit. I they got some big boys inside too. We could play a little smash mouth on the offensive glass I don't know that I don't know how skilled they'd all be but they uh, we we'd we'd make it fun for sure We went a few we get out there and went a few games has uh has sabon maybe said something like hey, look I'm rooting for you guys But don't go don't get too good because we're still the meal ticket here like we're still the big dogs in town

No, he's not none of that. He's been he's been great. He congratulated me after the regular season title after the tournament title He's he's been all I think that he's the basketball guy. He uh, him and his are still buddies You know, go back to the man's days at michigan state and he's uh, he uh He has a little noon, uh, like Uh, his staff comes over in place. You've heard about it. Yeah, I've heard about it I think he like rigs it so he always wins doesn't he? Have you ever played there? Have you ever gone in and shot around? So too, you know, I've only been here two years. So last year he got hip surgery So I think that kind of cut out their new league and I asked him I said you still gonna be able to play basketball

And he said what so why do you think I got the surgery done? so I obviously was uh And then this year we got the covid stuff going on So I you know like maybe when I get back and maybe if everybody's got their vaccination done or who know Maybe I'll jump in I said I got to work on my jumper though because if he's gonna pick me up He's got you know, he's got to be able to see I can make some shots I might get in the gym and start working on my game after the scene's over What are the rules going to be in that like if you if you guard them one on one

Are you going to be able to really put the clamps on them? Are you gonna are you going to put the body on them or is it saving and you're like can't touch from what I've heard he picks his team And then he picked who guards him on the other team So my guess would be if I was guarding him that would be really That would say something about my defensive abilities. That would mean I'm an awful defender if he picks me to guard him He's like so hopefully hopefully I would be guarding him Yeah, he's like Justin Bieber when he when he practices against his worst friend and then makes his other friend take a video

So that goes up online. That's what Saban does. Yes in the run. I like that. Um, did you have he's not figured out the video though? Yeah, yeah, that's true. Have you have you been asked or commented on the end of the sec championship game? Which by the way was one of my favorite games of the entire year. That was a high level game Great shot making great drama Um, what what exactly did you say to lsu in that moment? I don't know what I said. I got really excited. Uh, I think some people tried to read lips. I uh, I didn't mean any disrespect lsu. Um, I uh I figured you guys would bring that off somebody who did a little big j journalist research, you know, like I uh

I watched it. I watched it. I was watching it. It was awesome And I have actually a bone to pick with you because I think that uh, you know, the style you guys play The way that you you know speak your mind is all refreshing but you apologize too much The fact that you apologize for coach k earlier this year those comments like stop apologizing Just be yourself. Just say it and just be done with it. Yeah. What does it matter? I mean, there's People disagreed that that to me At the end of the sec game that was just a Coach who was passionate about his team who was in a great game who'd been in a long season letting out a little bit of emotion

That's sports. Like that's sport. That's what it should be about. That is what it was. I was fired up You know, we had a little did you see the little brew a little scuffle before the game? Yes. Yes That's what that's why we watch sports There was a little extra motion involved in that one and there was a few other things going on behind the scenes So we we needed to make sure we had that win. So yeah, I think We're on four. Yeah. Yeah, we got that win. We're good. I think I read your lips after the game What I saw was great freaking win guys And I was like, yeah, that's great. Yeah, I love that

He's my guy. He's my guy. That's what I that's what I that's what I'm claiming. That's what I said and then you had to go kind of uh Was it out of the flames and into the frying pan and face off against a legendary coach rick patino in the first round Great coach like an all one of the all-time legends of the game and you knew you were going to get 40 minutes of hell from him What was your game plan? Like did you have to make any pre any adjustments leading in that game knowing coach patino's style of play You know what? I I didn't know what he was going to do exactly. I mean, he's obviously a hall of fame coach He's won multiple national championships. See uh, great

Yeah, I I mean, you know, I had to go against him. I Didn't sign up for that getting a two seed, you know We we we win the we were the only power five team to win the regular season and the uh tournament championship in a power five league And then they they lined me up with rick patino hall of fame coach in the first round. So I yeah, I didn't I didn't try I didn't You know, I didn't know exactly what he'd do when you try to guess we we didn't change a whole lot of what we do I I did think I mean, you did a great job. They were up on us in the second half Then our athleticism Finally took over in our depth and we kind of broke the thing open a second half. I did

I'm cool with his son Richard. I'd never met rick before and at this deal everything's different Like when we get to the arena They got to sanitize everything and so we couldn't even get to the locker room So both us and I own our shooting on one court. They got one in we got the other they got a curtain between but I Saw rick over that went over and talked to him for like 15 minutes kind of before we could get to our locker rooms He was great His son Richard gave me his number. I've known Richard for a while. He's been we and have been cool. So I call them After we played and just kind of tried to pick his brain for a little bit. He was great. So

I uh, it was good and I saw I saw from that comment that he He he told you that the first game is always the toughest Which I thought was very interesting because you have the the I own a game You guys are down in the second half like you mentioned and then the next game against Maryland You you know everything clicked and you guys could have beaten the nets on uh, son or monday night or sunday night whenever the game was Uh, that's how hot you guys were from three But it was interesting because I never really thought about that You think that like the first game's always the easiest but I could see how like jitters and

And not feeling the flow of the tournament could definitely get in teams ways when they're playing in the first round Yeah, he brought up one of one of his kentucky teams. I guess had the biggest and you guys Knowing uh, you guys a little bit. You'd probably know this one The biggest point spread in the history of the nca tournament He said there were 36 point favorites kim sandals. They stayed in one point game at the half So and then he did tell me they ended up covering the spread in the second half Which is crazy. So that that second half must have been nuts But so no, he told me that I told our players that too. I you know, I was like

Listen, like it's it's kind of we're too good on the offensive team. It's going to flow and sure enough. It did So I mean Maybe I'll just keep telling them like we're going to have a great offensive game and then you just speak it into existence or some This interview is brought to you by our great friends at go puff go puff delivers all your daily needs so fast It's almost confusing from food and drinks to cleaning supplies home needs We're down 24 7 to show up with a bag of the stuff that you want How do they do it over at go puff? Well go puff actually stores 2500 plus products in a local facility

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That's one point two like we're gonna win most of our games doing that But the problem is most of the guys are shooting like in the 30% and 40% and that's an awful shot at those percentages, so we it's more of a Reprogramming them from the time they get in, you know from their high school junior college Whatever where they took way more of them to You know and we let them take them. We just devalue them. We only give you one point form in practice Yeah, that kind of like this foreign system you talked about so and then so if you take them And you're just losing because you're taking these and we got three pointers and four pointers and you're taking one pointers and

so we're uh We kind of devalue it that way and then we take the you know, we so but we don't tell them they can't shoot them We just devalue and then you know after a few months of uh stats We start to show the guys like You know you're shooting 35% and well, that's 0.7 points per possession We're not winning any games if that's what we get coming down So maybe you want to quit shooting them, you know, you think that's your shot and You're making one out of three, but that's that's a terrible percentage. So it's more of

Getting them to believe it the same way I get them rather than just saying You know, maybe it's the new school parenting, you know back in the old school You just do it because I'm I'm your dad now now. It's you got to explain everything. You know, I got three kids. You got Why why why right? All right, you got to explain it all Yeah, convince them to get to your side I like that so explain it so for people who don't know your the practice court was what you're referring to It has two pointers right at the rim one pointers is every every single mid-range and then three pointers and four pointers

Is that right? Yeah, we put a four-point line down. It's probably about three feet behind the MBA line It's uh, and we don't really Encourage a ton of four-point shooting because but we put it down more for spacing But we do like guys to have that range because then they can really spread the floor out But yeah, so we want at the rims. We went in the order We want free throws at the rim twos and then kick out threes So you get free throws by driving the ball getting filed You know the at the rim twos

Everything from an at the rim two all the way out to a three. We just give 1.4 So even like a lane shot, even if it's not technically a mid-range, but it's it's we call them non At the rims. So yeah, we just we try that's what we're trying to get That's your math ground come math background coming into play because you were you were a math teacher, right? So that's where you learned all these fancy statistics like three is worth more than two. Wow, which is worth more than one I could have passed your math class Definitely, you definitely you definitely could have helped you through it. I mean depending on how well you shot it I mean, you know like

Yeah, I also saw that you uh, you were essentially like a corner store in your in your high school You were selling flaming cheetos capris Who did all your research for you guys? Gives on the internet actually wikipedia wikipedia is a a big resource for this podcast But I saw I saw that you uh like outsold the corner store the local corner store So much so that the other teachers were mad because their students were late to come to class Because they were all lining up to give you money Because you were raising money for the for the basketball team on that

How many how many bags of flaming hot cheetos would you go through in a week? Oh shoot ladies and I bought a mini van and took All the seats out of it So that I could fill it up at sam's every sunday every sunday I go sam's And I I saw I had usually three boxes of 50. So it's that 150 a day So multiply by five what was what's that give you about 750 bags hot cheetos a week That's that's about what we were going through that's involving there you go So so what did you do with when the other teachers were like? Hey, this math teacher is making every student tardy and they're all showing up to class with uh bright orange dust

All scantrons are inoperable because they've got bright orange dust all over it wasn't that bad The uh, they're the the warning bell at the warning bell you guys shut it down So you gotta hurt up you got four minutes to get in get stuck get out Or you know you sell before school lunchtime whatever I We had a whole system you'd have to been in there you guys would you guys would have enjoyed it You'd you'd have definitely been down in my classroom frequently during the days But yeah when I when I got to Romulus, I think I remember there was like 78 dollars in the fundraising account When I left they had like over 20 grand and we had the shooting machines. They call them guns

Yep, they're like about six grand each. We had like six of those so we just Yeah, we raised a little bit of money. That wasn't the only way we raised we raised money a lot of different ways But yeah, that was that that was eight years ago. I was we won the state championship in michigan in 2013 So it hasn't been that long that I was still filling up the van with uh, sam's club stuff. That's crazy Um, so when you went to buffalo, obviously you you uh coached with bobby hurley. How crazy are the hurley brothers? Listen I love Danny. I just talked to Danny because they obviously played marilin before we had he uh

Gave me his two cents. I I got to know Danny probably better than I did bobby and then bobby got the job and then Obviously working for bobby for two years. We got pretty close and they like They're different, but they're kind of the same. They both got a uh I mean they both got a Definitely straight to him. We're like, you know, you don't want to get him too pissed off. Right, but I figured out where I mean bobby's a really good player, but he's like ultra intense, you know like on like 90 95 percent of the time Probably more than that. Like he's just chilled. Like if you had him on a podcast, he'd be great

Like he's just normal dude laid back But shoot you lose two in a row or you you lose a recruit that you were supposed to get They got they got they got a little bit different side to him. But I I mean He's kind of got a deal uh, and I say they I'm like I never worked for Danny. So right me and Danny are cool We still talk, but I worked for bobby. I I loved working for him. He was great Almost to the point. No, it was almost entertaining at times, but he and he knew it you got Like I'd be nuts. He'd just kind of laugh and he kind of know it but like

Yeah, I remember a few pranks as the guy the players found out. He was a little nuts, too But their their dad's a hall of fame coach. Yeah. Yeah, and I loved it I love I love watching like one of my favorite things to do is watch Uh, Danny on the sidelines just waiting for the technical that's going to happen pretty much every game because he just wears And again, it goes back to what we were saying about the end of the sec championship game As fans we consider ourselves pretty like regular average joe fans. That's the kind of stuff we want to see We want to see passion. We want to see coaches getting mad. That's the fun stuff Coaches that are just kind of sitting there and and not engaged with their team. That doesn't do anything for me

Oh, no, those both of those are super engaged. I mean, so bobby's first year at Buffalo I think he got eight teams So I don't know if that led the country. It had to be pretty close and eight. It's like one a team of them before games so, uh I never had to coach a game. He never got thrown out. He never got two in a game now Then he went to Arizona State and he got Remember he got tossed against the air. I think was that the first Arizona game that they played? Yes I mean first home

He was kind of inciting the crowd getting him fired up because he's heading out the tunnel So I that never happened at Buffalo. We kept him in every game. He just you know, you get the first team and then we Make sure he stuck around for the rest of the game. I never had to coach a game till I actually got the head job But no, I mean, they're both super passionate. Love what they do You know and shoot I I wouldn't be where I'm at if it wasn't for those guys I mean they gave me my start in the business. So I uh Always being dead at the both both those brothers I've always wondered how that works on a college basketball sideline because you see in college football at times

A coach will have their get back guy the guy who's his only job is to like grab the back of the guy's belt And and keep him on the sideline in college basketball You see a coach sometimes running out towards the scores table running out towards the officials But it's more of like all the assistants corral them and they like they surround him and start pushing him back What would you say to him to get to get him to like, you know, call off the dogs for a second? We need you back on the bench. How would you talk him down? I wouldn't during the game You just say hey, Bob, we need you like like come on man. Like we we can't get tossed here You know, but he he's smart enough not to

You know go once you get the first tee, you know, you can't get tossed like so you got it You can't go too much overboard now. I think you got really emotional in the Arizona game down there He was pretty good. I mean I I did sit out in his office once and try to tell him Like Bob like a lot of these reps are my age like I grew up I mean, you know, I don't know vitalizes the right word I mean, I'm working for the guy now. So I don't know that I use that word But like I I grew up watching you play and like really, you know Looked up to you like maybe if you chopped it up with these reps before the game like

They probably think the same way about you as me like maybe we'll get a couple calls, you know Like Bobby early is pretty cool So I think you tried that till the first call when uh went wrong and then Off the window I've also liked your suits this year because a lot of coaches have really kind of They've they've tampered it down a little bit. They they got permission to wear sweats And now they're like wearing bath robes and stuff out there Your plaid coats I think are the best in college basketball right now like a nice loud plaid

You don't see it that much anymore. It kind of looks like a 1980s almost like a uh, what's his name? Uh, herb, uh, herb Her brooks her brooks type type suit Um, how many how many plaid jackets do you have in store? You're gonna break one out for this tournament? Yeah, I got I got we got a I brought seven of them along. So we we got enough for all the games Big cat did he just say I dressed like I'm in the 80s. Did I read that wrong? It's actually a high compliment for me. Uh, I actually I oh you're an 80s I just I love the plaid jackets. I don't think no one wears me more What I meant by that is like back in the 80s, that's what the coaches wore

And I thought that is 1980s coaches in in both the nfl and in basketball. I think that's the pinnacle of fashion Yeah, so it I didn't do it at Buffalo. I just wore the suits when I got to Alabama if you guys go back Remember wim sander said they used to call it the plaid palace So I I borrowed one of wim suits you probably find a picture for the first like Of a tight tip-off deal, whatever they call it like the midnight madness, but it's not midnight anymore So I borrowed one of his and then I was like, you know what? Back back when I was a high school coach in a buffalo I didn't I didn't get the uh tailored suits you buy them off the ragnar get paid a little bit more money

And I so I got a tailor guy started making me a few uh plaid sport coats and we've really rocked it So I was with the uh Bathrobes and the other stuff they're wearing for the first half of the season. It's ironic you call bathrobes I like some are a little oversized, right? It's like someone need to get like their poles fitted a little tighter, right? Yeah, is there anyone in particular you're thinking of when you say that? Well, I'm a coach. I mean, I'm not gonna call out the other guy I mean you are you at least told me you're two guys in the sec So I wasn't saying anything stupid about them and you've already referenced

a couple of my uh foot and mouth comments So I'm not you're not gonna you know, you're not gonna get me into another one here Your coach k thing was not foot and mouth by the way that we said the same thing and everyone thought it was great So you don't that doesn't count. Yeah, it doesn't count. You're just new school Yeah, new school. I didn't look I wanted the season to go. I liked my team. We needed to play a season. So yeah, right Hold on. Let's let's not talk about showing the season now. We need the season to go on That was part of the other reason I went I went to the sport coach too. I'm so ready for everything to get back to normal I like we lost the game and it was like a great excuse. I'm like, that's it

I'm going back to sport because let's get back to normal as soon as we can get back to normal Yeah, it would it would make sense that a coach that's confident that they have a good team Would want to continue to play as many games as possible Which is why you made that comment about what coach k said about his team Which may or may not have fit in that same category as alabama's team wink wink. I get it With syracuse then then jim bayheim kind of had coach k's back because I think they're best friends And uh, he actually he gave you a compliment. I don't think that he intended to give you He was like, we've got this young guy out here

Running off at the mouth. He called he called you young You know, I'm a little younger than he is Yes, I was actually Look, so bayheim. So I know bayheim enough. I mean, I was in both loys and syracuse. So we we did a golf outing together Like we like and again, I get what he was doing like I get it. I mean those guys are buddies I think they coached in the olympic team together and he's Maybe and look and I talked to k about it too. So I'm you know, bobby worked for k So we had that whole thing going on. But I did see the bayheim comment

I look I'll say this about bayheim. We played down my second to last year of Buffalo We were up With three minutes going to game and and probably should have beat him ended up losing a tight one He ended up rescheduling us the next year, which he didn't have to do and we Went in there and beat him. So I give him some credit. Everybody used to say he played the cupcake schedule He scheduled us After we almost beat him then we did go in there and beat him So I'm more I'm one and one against him now. So we're

And we're all right. He's in the sweet 16. He's pulling. He's doing like jim bayheim things, right? Like yeah, yeah We can do the tournament everybody said as you shouldn't be in that somehow gets in and Next thing, you know, he's in the sweet 16. It's true. It's true. It doesn't all time. Yeah All right, my last question and this has been great. What is the key to winning in march? I saw a quote. I want you to just repeat it But tell me what the key to winning in marches. I mean you want the the the dumb quarter like you got to make more No, no, I think you should get your butt to the free throw line and quit avoiding contact. I just like that Oh, listen. Yeah, so we're

I don't know if that was the question but that wasn't answered to some question like like we were not getting to the free throw line I mean, you look you go back your guy moss when we played at arkansas and I You guys big on the shirt like the yes in the shirt off. Yes. Yes. Love it. Love it. I don't I love it. I don't think you like it. I I sent some disdain, but I love it I didn't say that. I'm just wondering like I wanted I wanted your take on it I like I could ask questions too. It's like, you know, like But anyways, when we when we when we lost to them at their place

It was like the biggest free throw discrepancy in the last 10 years of the sec It was like 43 to eight. I believe at the free throw line So everybody Wanted to talk about how much we got screwed like, you know, 35 more free throws than us and maybe we did I who knows but my thing to our team was Like we're obviously not doing enough to get to the free throw line Like we're not driving it hard enough. We're avoiding contact. Like that's soft It's like, you know, like football guy, right? Like you shouldn't be avoiding contact

Like drive the ball get filed go the free throw line make it So we've been trying to get to the free throw line a lot more When you're hitting threes like we did last game you might fall in love with the three a little better Maybe you don't get to the free throw line as much but I do think like free throws at the rim twos kick out threes That's what we're trying to get. Well, if you don't get filed, you can't shoot a free throw Yeah, and if you avoid contact if you avoid contact, you're not gonna get filed So you got to get the free throw line It's it's a big thing that drives me nuts at the end of games when teams have a last possession

I'm always like, how do you how do you dribble around and then take a fadeaway three? When if you go to the if you go to the rack There's a good chance they're going to call a whistle if there's any contact there at the end of the game So like go make something happen. Yeah, I'm with you You have to put some pressure on your defense and the referee's both in those situations. So I forgot I made that I don't know what the question was but I did say that and I that that's my thought behind that Yeah, I like it. That's how you win in march. Yeah, it was actually a buffalo You said quit avoiding contact get your butt to the free throw line soft teams can't win in march. There you go

I didn't remember that was a buffalo quote. I had a few quotes a buffalo that uh Yeah, anyways, yeah, it's a good quote. It's a good quote. Well, this has been awesome. Good luck on um sunday Uh, again, we're not like I'm rooting for well, no, you know what you're behind Arkansas now because you count as a big 10 team You you already said that that counts. So um, there's enough big Yeah They ended up with one team in the sweet 16 after nine teams in the uh To you guys count you guys count Can I ask you something then coach? Why don't we talk about the big 12? Everyone talks about how great the big 12 was

Big 12 only has one team left too. It's a good point. There you go. I don't know what happened Also, I had the pack 12 Yeah, I would say 12 was supposed to be down and they got four. Yeah You see, I think Yeah What was the other big 10 team what we said you see elation count as a big 10 team I mean the big crone and Cincinnati guy. He's from the state of Ohio and that's big 10 style Yes, definitely. They're the big 10 of los angeles. Yep more so than usc

Micron and micron and teams are always hard nose tough. We get to play against them. I mean, I yeah, I'm not Sorry, I'm there. Shoot. I played against him when he's at Cincinnati. I was at Buffalo wasn't fun either But I uh No, I look and every I think this year was harder Because there wasn't as many non-conference games with with all the covid stuff. So everybody didn't get to see How good everybody, you know like in the pack 12 started I think later than most leagues So maybe they were better than everybody thought all year. They got 14 in the sweet 16. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's true Um, well, thanks so much coach. Good luck on sunday either way

Like we just said UCLA versus alabama no matter what the big 10 is going to win So it will you know, it'll be a great game So I like it. I you guys just adopt teams easy easy adoption. Yes. They got some kind of connection Yes, big 10 team. It's uh this weekend. Yes. All right. Thanks so much. Thanks coach. All right That interview is brought to you by our new friends over at light boxer Light boxer hacks your brain so that you can exercise harder and longer It's an immersive workout. They delivered one to the office It is sick. It fuses high intensity boxing with music and gaming

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Uh, but christy teegan deleted her twitter. Yeah, r.i.p. to a real one. Fuck. It's too bad. Damn Celebs basically the reason I joined twitter. Yeah, same. It's giving me life Mm-hmm So many times tweet after tweet I you know, I printed some out. I've got some hung up in my apartment You're teegan yak and I just don't know what I'm gonna do without her. Yes. No, it's that's that's hard What was the breaking point for I don't know. I think she had a bunch of old tweets that seemed like she was a pedophile Yeah, people thought that she was eating babies. Yeah, that seems that seemed like

What soon as the internet decides that you're like part of a hollywood Uh, baby eating cult. It's probably a good time to be like, all right, you know what? I got enough money I don't have to be on yeah, she's the live tweet. Well, I think it was she live She's a live tweet toddlers and tiaras And then those out of context and look great. There's been a record number of people accused of eating babies this year Yeah, it's a big year. It also makes besides the jonathan swift modest proposal year This has got to be like we've set world records for accusing people of just uh just snacking on infants

I also just the all the people who spend their entire time online Uh, trying to uncover big big like pedophile rings and baby eating cults I feel like they're eating babies It's a strange accusation to make. Yeah, like if you're like, hey, you're a baby eater. It's like, uh, you're a baby eater Dude, I've never thought about eating a baby jumping straight into baby eating. It's like let's start with just smelling babies Right your baby's smelling it's a it's a it me me thinks the lady doth protest too much when you accuse others of eating babies online I also would be hilarious if she what like that really yeah, it would be hilarious If christie teigen had any sense of the moment, she would have been like

I'm uh leaving twitter for good to focus on my life's work eating babies She makes a cake and it's just you know, those extremely realistic cakes just a baby Slices into like this has just been to it's been side tracking what i'm really passionate about and that is harvesting Young children's blood sticking a straw into a baby like a capri son I also have a gas leak in my apartment. So oh From your ass That's tough, hank like seriously, I don't know. I yeah, I called it in this morning I waited all morning and then she called it in well. I called my parent move

It's a big time. Let's check out if my apartment's gonna blow up They didn't show up before I left. I think they're hopefully gonna have gone You know by the time I get home, uh, we'll see so maybe I'll blow up tonight. Who knows if I do Hank make sure to put the podcast up before you get home. Mm-hmm. Please is up yet? No, okay. Okay Is that it? Yep My firefighter, I would imagine holding one last thing on the hank blowing up Imagine like it's uh, like hank blows up and there's just a big rubble And then they find him because normie's dick is sticking out of the rubble and then they get him both and they both survived

That'd be sweet. That'd be awesome. Yeah That would uh, my firefest of the week is I learned more about my elevator fiasco And it's it's a lot worse than I initially thought so they're gonna be replacing I think I said they were gonna be replacing it for the next like couple days. Yeah, it takes a while Apparently it could take months to replace my elevator which is complete bullshit now I'm like anti-elevator entirely. I'd like to see more apartment complexes that have what about escalators Why don't we have escalators instead of staircases in apartment buildings? That to me seems like a much more functional alternative That takes up a lot of space

Same amount as the stairs. I've got stairs. No, no escalators and stairs. No, they're about the same size Think about a shaft like a up and down. I'm talking about Escaped escalators. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah, but do you know like visualize an escalator? Okay, and now visualize this like it's a staircase that winds around and goes up That takes up far less space than an escalator that has to go straight up No, like in movie theaters You go up and then you get on the next one and it goes up and then you're that takes up way more space than a single shaft Like stairs. I know I'm saying we have the same coverage. No, no, I'm I'm a single shaft of stairs

I don't know if if your stairs do you live in like at the top of a castle where No, but most Staircases long hair is in a spiral. What are you talking about most staircases have like you go up like six steps Yeah, turn the corner you go up six. That's what I want except I want the stairs to move Yeah, I think that would take up way too much space. I don't know but the bottom line is my my Escalating situation is going to be Awful for the next couple months. Am I allowed to just like tell my landlord that I'm not moving out Just don't pay your rent like I I'm not paying rent and I'm not moving. I don't want to move out on stairs

Yeah, just don't pay your rent All right, we're going on a rent strike fellas. There we go until hanks gas league gets fixed or he blows up Or he blows up and until well, technically that would fix it. Yeah Well, you know, my family has a bad history with elevators. That's true great grandfather rp had an elevator land on his head died Yeah, that's scary like it's it runs in my family. Yes, absolutely. Um, all right. My firefest is I it just Sweatshirt weathers over and it's fucking snuck up on me was not ready for that You still do sweatshirts sweatshirts and shorts. No, it's gonna be 90 until it's oh, it's no 80. Sorry. It's be 80 tomorrow 80 tomorrow and I have to wear a t-shirt and I am not in t-shirt shape. That's crazy. Yeah, see it came too fast

I thought I would have all of april to maybe lose a few pounds Turns out I don't also the Suez canal. Shit is funny. It's very that's the ultimate firefest That imagine being the captain of that ship right now like you've got to be like this is an all-time fuck I still don't know how they just don't push it. So it's in water So I have a couple ideas on how to fix it one would be you just like Like cowboys you wrangle up a bunch of whales that are in the ocean And then you steer all the whales into the canal and just make all the whales run into the ship And get like 20 whales hitting the ship at once to dislodge it. I feel like that's a foolproof plan

Eventually, they're just gonna have to blow it up eventually someone's just gonna launch a missile at it take it apart Piece by piece. Yeah, I mean you think it's it's shutting down like 10 of the world's seafaring trade right now Yeah, just drop they're gonna drop a bomb on it if it's not fixed within a week. That's my prediction I can't believe it's not out already. It's crazy. We billy. I'm actually like terrible Yeah, especially for vaccine distribution to the southeast asia. Oh Billy you were getting pretty woke on it earlier I like if you wanted to fuck up oil prices and all sorts of stuff you'd pull a little prank like that A prank. Yeah, just a prank little thing. Yeah, I mean it's it's I thought they were just gonna it was just gonna be fixed

I thought it was one of those funny things like haha Boat got stuck everyone tweets the same awesome powers gift and then 24 hours later like ah boats free I just think it's I just think it's interesting that This hasn't happened like multiple times every single day right like a boat going sideways Feels like our one flaw in designing this very important canal is that if a boat steers to the left Uh, then vaccines don't reach india for three months. Yeah, just make it bigger. Can we just make that shit bigger make it bigger Make it deeper. What if they pull wider? Oh, what if they pour more water into it? And then that lifts the boat up float it and it gets yeah, it gets further up

Just leave a garden hose running. Yeah, just everybody in egypt go to the suez canal and take a piss in it Sit and wait and hope it can be towed. I'm reading an article about it now It's called the sue at the type of cargo ship it is the suez max. So it's the largest boat Uh empire state building is is how big it is. Yeah, it's crazy. That's a pretty big canal. Yeah, uh Billy I had a pretty good week my I have a little bit of a like a allergy cough, but besides that Oh, is it allergies? Yeah, nothing else. I got antibodies. That's true. Sounds like you're really prepared for your firefest this week crew

What's up? I was trying to think about when I was like your car smells. That's your fire. Yeah, my car does smell Really drove me in today in his car. I still can't really smell out my nose Okay, that's also. Yeah, but that's the deviated septum buckled buckled septum. Yeah, you see hose. They can say goes shoulder Yeah, that whole thing. It's just getting weird. It's almost like you took a dive it's so it's no it's not like It's just now I have to fight again. Oh, you want to fight Jose again? No, not him I'm not gonna fight him. Who do I fight because he what he's got two reconstructed shoulders by the fight him again And just you know make make him say that like don't give him any money unless he wins

Fight him again. Don't even put it as the main event put it in the middle of the card Yes, he's just he's not fit to fight at all. Well, you beat him up so bad No, like yeah for that. I mean you fucked him up and now I have these legal hands that aren't even that good Your firefist get me in trouble. Billy's probably going to go to jail and and sit in the in the electric chair because he gets into a fight Yeah, you think that your life is like in your head. You're nicolas cage from conner Where it's like you're gonna you're gonna defend a woman's honor in a bar fight and then be wrongfully put in jail For like 10 years and then have to take over a plane and land it in las vegas Yeah, because of a professional boxing match. I did when I was 21. Yeah, again, so they can say go took a dive. Yeah

Jake you want to end it with a firefest? Yeah, so obviously we came back from chicago this week We got a bunch of gear pft was generous enough to make that this is marsh gear And the orange sweatshirts for team orange and I tried stuffing them all in my luggage and my zipper broke That stuff I get a bag if you need one That's brutal. Yeah, that is brutal. So you're gonna have to travel again with a broken zipper Yeah, or go get a new one tomorrow. We'll say anything good happened this week Yeah, like what? Syracuse made the sweet 16. Mm-hmm. Got to interview buddy bayheim. It was a lot of fun. Anything else? How are you feeling just about uh, just your health traveling? Is your health cool with covid pandemic?

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