Pardon My Take - Alex Caruso From The OKC Thunder, Comedian Ray Romano, Indiana Pacers Are In The NBA Finals + National Sports Podcast News

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

The Indiana Pacers are on to the Final and we talk about their big win Saturday night, how they got here and where the Knicks go from here. Jerry O'Connell calls Hank randomly and its the death of the... Bing Bong (00:00:00-00:41:55). National Sports podcast and Scottie Scheffler is unstoppable and we talk some baseball (00:41:55-00:51:09). Who's back of the week including Taylor Swift and Rebecca Romijn (00:51:09-01:11:15). Alex Caruso joins the show to talk about the Thunder's run to the Finals, what it will be like to play in front of fans for a Finals, playing relentless defense, Jokic and tons more (01:11:15-01:41:08). Ray Romano joins the show to talk about upcoming golf tournament in Tahoe, sports fandom, and his kids growing up (01:41:08-02:12:19). We finish with lottery ball (02:12:19-02:18:02).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have an NBA Finals set. We also have our good friend Alex Crusoe from the Oklahoma City Thunder getting ready for the NBA Finals. We also are going to talk to our good friend Ray Romano ahead of our chill week in Tahoe. He'll be competing talking about his golf game comedy. Great interview.
Starting point is 00:00:29 We're going to talk about the weekend sports that were. We got a little national sports podcast stuff to hit. Hot Seat, or sorry, Who's Back of the Week. Got a little screwed up there. Well, last week, Max sprung the the the hot seat, cool thrown Friday on us. Well, no, we, I knew he told us that before. Yeah. But then he sprung it on. He sprung it on. He did tell us that and be like, Hey, just so you guys know, I sold a hot seat, cool thrown. But we got, we got it. We got a great show getting ready for the week and uh, it is brought to you by our friends at draft Kings. The NBA finals are here.
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Starting point is 00:03:23 Yup. It's life. 49 states. It's just basketball. Uh, congr just a game in Indiana. Yep. It's life. 49 states. It's just basketball Congrats though to the Indiana Pacers incredible season incredible run through the playoffs. They are so much fun to watch and They take down the Knicks. Let's let's glaze on the Pacers though before we talk about the Knicks. Okay All right, I can blaze them Pascal Siakam well-deserved series MVP, right? it was obviously people were talking about the moment where Tyrese Halberton thought he had won the Easter Conference final MVP now PFT you and I I think are in lockstep with this We've always said that the MVP Awards in these series don't mean anything Tyrese Halberton is the best player on that team He really deserves respect for that Anyone who says differently is like, silly.
Starting point is 00:04:05 That's the beauty of NBA basketball and the sport of basketball overall is it's about team. Right. And there's no I in team. There's no MVP in team. Right. And you're like, that's Tyrese Halberton's team. You would never say, oh, whose team is it? I mean, obviously. Just because he won an MVP for a series pass to Yacom. It was great. Tyrese is a straw that stirs the drink. Correct. He is. I mean, without Tyrese, none of this works. Yeah. The, uh, you know, instant baskets after a made layup. Those don't happen without him out, out letting the ball down the court. Um, he is the most important player, I think on the team, everyone would agree to that MVP. Who cares? You get it. You get a weird, you get the, the Larry bird trophy. Yeah. Okay. Very cool. Who cares? Yeah, that is cool. But people remember the the team accolades not the individual awards, right? That's right
Starting point is 00:04:48 You agree with that? Yeah. Yeah in the in the finals, I think people tend to remember that's a little bit different individual I wouldn't have that same take in the yeah in the finals. It's okay. That means something series MVP It's like okay. Well, sometimes the best players they save a little something for the finals, right? So it really matters whose name is on that trophy after it's all said and done. Siakam though, I think he had, do you have three games where he was over 30 points? He was just an absolute monster in transition. It felt like the entire Pacers team pace wise, which is obviously no pun intended, but they torched the Knicks, uh,
Starting point is 00:05:22 in terms of pace transition, they outscored the Knicks 74 points in transition in this series. It felt like on Saturday night, it wasn't even the Pacers playing their best game. It was just the Pacers were trying. It was actually the Greg Doyle. Greg Doyle being a weirdo asking for clarification on Pascal Siakam on how the Knicks tried harder. It felt like every time there was a rebound, it wasn't even rebounds too. It was just made baskets.
Starting point is 00:05:50 They would get out so fast and it would be Carl Anthony Towns like running, you know, spinning around getting a layup line on him. And the Pacers like they just kept on pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. And I also want to give a shout out to Andrew Nemhart who was incredible got head-butted he got head-butted he had Brunson I think Brunson scored four points in the fourth quarter. He was they were playing ferocious defense on him Andrew Nemhart though through the playoffs He when he is a primary defender Damien Lillard in the first series Damien Lillard had 23.3% field goal percentage 14.3% from three.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Donovan Mitchell in the second round, 23.3% field goal percentage, 16.7% from three. This is all when Andrew Nemhart is the primary defender and then against Jalen Brunson 38.2% field goal percentage 30% from three. He was awesome. He was great on defense and Jalen Brunson, look, he continued to look shaky when he was handling the ball. Like he just doesn't see double teams coming ever. Yeah. And he, you can tell that he gets a little bit, I don't know, in his own head, they make him nervous. They did a good job of making him uncomfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And then Nimhart playing just lockdown defense. That was awesome to see the pacers, the pace of Indiana basketball is so fun to watch I don't want to I don't even want to look ahead that much to the finals Yeah, because we can well there'll be time for that because we don't play till Thursday show We're gonna we're gonna have a solo on for a full finals preview. Can I can I say one thing though about the finals? Yeah, because obviously there's gonna be a lot of the ratings discourse, which we've already said who the fuck cares Uh-huh. I'm gonna I actually think this is going to be a fun matchup I think the Pacers obviously are going to be tall task because OKC looks
Starting point is 00:07:28 nearly unstoppable. But if you look at just since January 1st because the Pacers season it started Halliburton was dealing with some injuries. Nemhart was dealing with some injuries. They started kind of clunky. They had I think they got blown out a few times in the first couple of weeks I think they were 10 and 15 at one point with a loss to Charlotte So it was a bad start for the Pacers but since January 1st The best two records in the NBA are the Oklahoma City Thunder at 53 and 13 and the Indiana Pacers at 46 and 18 These are the two best teams since January 1st I'm very excited for this matchup. And I think the Pacers are
Starting point is 00:08:05 very much deserving people are going to be like, Oh, well, this this sucks to smaller markets. The Pacers just playing great basketball and they took advantage of an East that was a little up topsy turvy. But I actually think they were they would have been here anyway, like the way they've been playing. It was Hicks in six and the Knicks they they would have beaten the Celtics regardless of the injury. So let's remember that. Hank Hank they were going to be up three to one against the Celtics. They blew up much bigger lead with less time in game one of the series. That's true. That is true. Yeah. So but I it's impossible to make that point. Okay. Well I think that it's fair to say that never know the Pacers played best. They played
Starting point is 00:08:43 the best basketball the most consistently of any team in the postseason. Is that fair to say? Yeah, definitely. Okay. So it's so facto they are the best team in the East. I can't argue that. And Rick Carlisle needs some respect. Give Rick Carlisle respect because the man is a great coach NBA champion Rick Carlisle. Yeah, we'll forget that. And George needs some respect we alluded to it last week, but these are the Paul George finals Paul George was traded For I think it was sub bonus and Ola Depot and then they became Tyrese Halberton I think also some draft picks that I think Shepherd was one of them And then also Paul George was traded from OKC that became SGA
Starting point is 00:09:22 It's a Paul George fine, but I don't want to look too much ahead to the finals and be like, oh, I think this is going to happen because there's a lot of that discourse going on out there right now. I just feel good for the Pacers. I feel good for the Pacers. They're a great team. I'm excited for the matchup. I know that it was a great matchup between the Pacers and the Knicks for the Pacers in terms of the style of basketball that each one excels at. It was as good as you could get for them. They were great in the postseason. Congrats to the city of Indianapolis. Congrats to Mr. Ursay. He gets the assist on that game one. Dan Dockage.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Dan Dockage, Caitlin Clark in the audience. This is really a Caitlin Clark championship right here. Yeah. The stat? I don't know. You don't know what you're about to give a take. Well, no. I did some advanced research for the Pacers. Again, we're not going to do our finals preview with Rosillo, but Caitlin Clark is, the Indiana Pacers are 7-0
Starting point is 00:10:14 when Caitlin Clark is in attendance. Yeah, it's a Caitlin Clark effect. Now, the first two games in Indiana, she has no conflicts. Game six, they have a road game, the Fever against the Valkyries. Okay. Do you know where the Valkyries are from? The Valks. The Valks are from... I do not. I'm not taking credit for knowing where the Valks are.
Starting point is 00:10:34 New Mexico. No. No. The Valkyries. No, no. We're in New W.M.A. Sweden. The Valkyries are Golden States team. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:42 So, they also have a game, I believe it's game six is June 19th is schedule. The Valkyries are playing the fever. That could be that could swing this. I mean, if she's there on on game three and four, the patients are going to win. She has to go to every game, right? When she doesn't have a conflict. And she doesn't like I looked at it. She she plays I think the night before game three. And then the next game is a home game. And that's the same thing. Like the game four is the Pacers play. I think the night before game three and then the next game is a home game and then it's the same thing like the game four is the Pacers play I think Friday night and the fever play Saturday. So she'll be there for those two. I don't know what she's going to do with this this problem with the Valkyries. I don't know. It's a Valkyries problem. It's
Starting point is 00:11:17 going to get there. I don't know. You don't think it's going to get to six. But no I do the math Hank. Caitlin Clark attends game three and four. It's guaranteed to go at least six. But the Valkyries. We need somebody. We need somebody in the media to step up and be like, I believe in the Pacers. I mean, I have Reggie Miller. Who will be that conference?
Starting point is 00:11:38 People are mad about that. I have this entire. I don't know. How did you guys feel? Reggie Miller, when he showed up wearing black for the funeral. Yeah, no shit. Announcers usually wear black. So when Reggie's like, yeah, you know, I'm wearing this outfit It's like yeah, that doesn't really look that much different from your normal. I'm also wearing a black vest. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so there wasn't really funeral attire
Starting point is 00:11:56 That's a funeral for somebody that like your friend knew and you go along his moral support I've been standing up for the Pacers these playoffs. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen. That's what I mean That's what I mean in the next round. I'll probably just stand up for him and just be like fuck it I was wrong. Who cares? I mean you can't you're right. I didn't understand the people that were upset at Reggie Miller for well I mean they presenting the trophy and celebrating but like who cares? No, I I actually don't think he was like Wildly biased to calling the games me but obviously he's a little bias I think just his presence makes it feel biased memes if it felt extremely biased journalism who is the journalism or am I play announcer for every game Mike Mike brain Mike Mike Mike
Starting point is 00:12:35 brain Mike brings a man yeah yeah not biased he calls us straight right he's definitely not biased Reggie Miller though but it is funny because like New York does get They have a lot of bias in the media and then one time that the Pacers get one guy Everyone's like how could this be? Well, he's also maybe the most biased guy ever Against the Knicks. Yeah, but I don't think I have no problem with it. I don't think in calling the game I never was like, holy shit. No, no. He's going over this. He did it outside of the game. I would be like, holy shit, what Reggie Miller just said was very dumb. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But I wasn't like, holy shit, what Reggie Miller just said was very biased. Correct, correct. Yeah. Correct. But yeah, I'm excited for the Pacers. They're a very fun team. Pascal Siakam, what a fucking move to get him.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Cause he was, I believe, remember they like overpaid for Bruce Brown, like $20 million, everyone's like, what the hell? Defense. And they basically were just like, no, we're just gonna take this contract so that we can just trade it eventually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm pretty sure that was the Pascal CI. And they obviously, yeah, Bruce Brown. Yeah. And that was kind of like Pascal Siakam both teams went all in with with trading some picks for a Pascal Siakam and Mikhail Bridges Pascal Siakam was better right so neither one of the teams in the finals are in the luxury tax right correct so they actually the Pacers haven't been in the luxury tax in 20 years I heard Wendy say that they're going to get permission to go into the luxury tax after that's huge. Uh, so tax bills and teams performance since 2012, the Pacers have not
Starting point is 00:14:10 paid any luxury tax. The thunder, uh, obviously have cause they had those teams where they had, you know, uh, KD and Russell Westbrook. And then they obviously had the Russell Westbrook Paul George teams. But yeah, it's pretty crazy that they actually, so I have a chart in front of me. They've paid zero luxury tax, and they have 51 playoff wins in that time, which is pretty crazy. And I think they have the same amount of playoff wins
Starting point is 00:14:39 as all the other teams combined who didn't pay the luxury tax in those years. Did you- Well run organization. Did you see Herb Simon, their governor? Yeah. After the game, the best tradition in sports, letting the owner get the trophy first. Of course. That poor guy. Reggie knew that he was not capable of holding the trophy on his own, so he like gave it to him and then kept his hands on it, helped him lift it up, and then immediately was like, get this shit out of your hands. Let an let an athlete hold this herb.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Let someone else get it. But yeah, it's cool. It's cool. Two, two small market team. I think the Pacers are the 25th biggest market. I don't know what OKC is, but it's gotta be probably lower. It's gotta be down there. Yeah. Um, it's cool. You could drive to the, to the finals 11, 11 hours back and forth. That's pretty good. The subway series. Yeah. All right. So congrats the Pacers. We're excited for the Pacers. John Halliburton. He's got to get on the floor. Get him on the wood. Get him on the wood. You got to get him on the wood. I don't know. I don't think they can. Part of the terms of his parole are you have to stay in the box. That might be box of the year. Yeah. You got John Halliburton, Tommy Alter, all the
Starting point is 00:15:44 heavy hitters, all the heavy hitters. I w I do think, I think McAfee probably needs to do, although you can't really do the same speech. You can't be okay. See it sucks that, that John the cougar, the coug melon camp had to like go out there and make that statement, like apologizing for McAfee. I don't know how John cougar melon camp deputize himself is like speaking for Indiana Well songs, but he was like who's your hospital? Well, he says I was born in a small town, right? Yeah Indianapolis not that small of a town. No, I Just that was one of the dumbest controversies ever because it's like McAfee did what he does very well you hand him a mic
Starting point is 00:16:19 he's going to Intagonize awesome wrestling. Yeah, literally in the WWE He is like, I might be number one guy that you'd want to hand a mic to in a live sporting event and just let him talk. And for anyone to be upset about that is insane. Yeah. Especially New York people. Ben Stiller, his, his, his, his tweet was crazy. New York would never do this. It's very funny how there's so many comedians that don't actually have a sense of humor. Like screaming at Reggie Miller last year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, the comedians without a sense of humor. But also, you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:58 And I'm not defending Ben Siller, but this is also like sports fandom is the great equalizer. Yeah. Because you just like, no matter what, you could be the funniest guy in the world. You could be the, I can go with every joke. If your team loses, you just act like a little bitch for 24 hours. Yeah, you're like, that's just what you do. I can't believe Dom Rickles told me to take his wife. That's not funny.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That's not funny, Dom. But it really is. It just makes everyone a little bitch for 24 hours, which is, you gotta just kinda let it go. Yeah. That's just what people are gonna do. So we have to have the conversation now about the New York Knicks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Is this season a disappointment for the New York Knicks? Memes? Memes, we'd love to know your perspective. No, it's not a disappointment. Okay, but. If anything, they definitely overachieved. They did have, this was the best opportunity to get to the finals, but I did overachieve.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I don't have a dog in this fight. I can't tell another man whether or not it's a disappointment, but we do have one person that I think is very qualified to have this conversation with you. That's Hank. Hank, would you say that this is a disappointment for the New York Knicks? I think right now it's easy to say like we overachieve. We got farther than we thought. I think, you know, when time comes and you look back back back at this year
Starting point is 00:18:05 You're gonna regret not going farther, and you're gonna understand how golden of an opportunity this was to get to the finals with all of the injuries and the path just opening wide up and Having a lead in game one with two minutes left, pulling the biggest, I think, lead in playoff slash NBA history, losing in six games would have been seven. You would have had game seven at home. You want to talk about the what if game? The game one what if is. What if that ball hits the rim, goes up 15 feet in the air,
Starting point is 00:18:39 comes down, hits the rim, and bounces out? What if? What if? Jim Marsese died five minutes before the series. That's a fact. There the Pacers are team of destiny. They had Thomas Bryant and obi top top and just making every single three yesterday. There's there's nothing you could do. You can't. Thomas Bryant NBA champion. Let's put some respect on his name. Yeah, but that guy that guy still shouldn't be hitting those three. Didn't he didn't he win one with the nuggets pretty sure he did
Starting point is 00:19:09 Did he Regardless, it's just if guys let it was he on the what team was he on? I'm pretty sure he won I'm pretty sure he was on an NBA championship team. He's in the Lakers. Maybe let's see Yeah, go ahead keep going memes if guys like that are hitting threes you're never you're you're just not gonna win Maybe. Let's see. Go ahead. Keep going. Memes. If guys like that are hitting threes, you're never you're just not going to win. It's not your night. I mean, that's that's basketball, though. I was defense was I didn't see any of the discourse until after the game.
Starting point is 00:19:38 But it's like everyone saying cat. Yeah. That's got to go. Where was that before? Why is why is that seem to be such a popular opinion? Yeah, you want an NBA title to Denver Nuggets? I I agree with you Hank. I think cat is the greatest scapegoat in In like NBA history in terms of like he this happened with him with the Timberwolves, too Where he is he gets scapegoated in and I'm not saying the cat is a perfect player His defense was bad. He was getting abused defensively last night in transition
Starting point is 00:20:09 I do want to say credit to cat like you didn't see cat just standing out at the three-point line Just hoping being passive and hoping that he would you know hit a couple trees he was he was throwing his body at people last night big time, but Cat is not like your cat is a defensively is a problem, but you have other problems. Not all cat He's still a big guy. Yeah, and you'd rather if you have a problem on defense You'd rather he be a large man than a small man But so I think like if you're talking about pointing a finger on defense you point the finger first at Jalen Brunson Yeah, but again, you don't get here without Jalen Brunson and Kat.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But that's the thing is that Jalen Brunson obviously for the correct reasons is the golden boy. What? I'm getting a call. Oh, who's calling you? Hello? Hey, it's Yurio. Hey, what's up? That's crazy. What?
Starting point is 00:21:02 No, we were just talking about the Nick's Pacers series on part of my take what's going on How are you? How you feeling? Why do you want a crazy time to call. I just wanted to say it was a fun season, Hank. And you know what, I'm sorry. Things didn't turn out well for your Celtics. Things didn't turn out that great for my Knicks either. I'm sure you were pretty happy about it, but it was all good fun and- No, I was pulling for you guys. I was rooting for Mr. Bing Bong. I'm sad that mr. Bing bong is dead. You're not gonna be able to Bing bong you got you know He's dead now. He's dead. He's dead. It's over. You had a great you had a great. You know little run there
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's never it's never gonna be like that again, but that it was a great run, and that's all that matters Let me ask you something um you It's never gonna be like that again, but that it was a great run and that's all that matters Yeah tibs out cat out Brunson trading block blow it up Yeah, that'd be Okay, I'd be okay, I mean lateral move Yeah, so we're talking about it on part of my take where you're allowed to take I just said we're we're it's crazy. You call we're talking about the next Pacers on part of my take and memes said it But you can't hear memes. Yeah memes said live tape But no, but Jerry you called hey, yeah you called me I was literally like I interrupted the podcast to be like
Starting point is 00:22:56 Why is Jerry calling? What's going on? That sounds good. All right, Jerry, we'll talk to you later. It's weird you call Jerry. I have a question for you. Is this New York Knicks season of disappointment? Huh? The next season of disappointment?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah. Not at all. Okay. Okay. That's a loser. Talk. Um, honestly, I have to say, um, our championship was beating the Celtics. I'm just saying, um, we can't be upset.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I can't even blame that, that, that game one, um, Eastern conference finals. I don't even care. We beat the Celtics. I mean, honestly, an injured Celtics, a hobbled hobbled banged up Celtics It's so funny. I see your boss tweeting that all the time. I'm about to get into an argument with it But I'm like why why even do that? Listen, we have another issue that we have to discuss on the show Listen there's been some things said back and forth with my wife
Starting point is 00:24:04 and one of your coworkers there. My look, I don't have my I'll be honest with you. My my wife is in the other room. I don't have her passcode or passwords or anything. So I don't know what's being said. I can only I only go and see it on that and see Jerry, see what Jerry, Jerry, it's big cat here. Uh, and I don't want to interrupt your
Starting point is 00:24:30 bubble bath bath anymore, but I sent you a text. I'm willing to make peace. All I ask is she stops hitting on me. This is my relaxing time. Okay. Just tell her to stop hitting on me and then I will unblock her and we can make peace Okay I gotta tell you of the bathroom. Sure, it'll slip, gotta get the bath mat out. I appreciate you calling me during your relaxing time.
Starting point is 00:25:14 That was nice of you. Yeah. Did see your post about, like, my wife hitting on you? And I actually, I showed it to my wife. Because my wife actually unblock you. So yeah, my wife can actually see your, your tweets and stuff. Oh, no, well, she can't see your tweets now. I blocked her. I showed her your tweet. And we did have a reaction. Hold on a second. Let me just go to the other room.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And we did have a reaction hold on a second. Let me just go to the other room It's just walking around house nude yeah, he must be what's in the other room? Yeah here so here, honey See I make her giggle when she's around me. We're laughing at you here. No Jerry, Jerry listen I just remind your wife I have three little kids I have a wife I love I don't want it I don't want any of this okay. Tell her to. Hold on a second. I'm happily married I think she's happily married. Let's just
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah Big Cat and my wife because when we exchanged vows, you know, I basically was marrying my best When I come on the part of my take and I manage your fantasy teams and I come on as mr. Big Bob Don't worry. Everyone. Mr. Big bonds not coming on anymore But you know I really hope you can find it in your heart to unblock my wife. Okay. Okay. Some exclusive Marvel content. Okay. So so we're not Star Trek strange new worlds. So maybe. Yeah. I mean, maybe you guys can love
Starting point is 00:27:18 star. Yeah. And you can exchange pleasantries with each other. Okay. Putting me in a hard position. Yeah. If I have to choose between you and my wife, um, let me think. Yeah, I'm choosing my wife. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll work on it. Okay. Jerry, I have a question for you. This is PFT commentary here from part of my take podcast, parcel sports You'll have to tape Do you think Rebecca would be interested in following any of Adam Schefter's content?
Starting point is 00:27:52 That's a nervous laughter No and have him come after the Washington Commanders. No. Do you? Because I happened to meet Coach Dable last weekend. He went to a Knicks game when the Knicks were in the playoffs and the Boston Celtics were knocked out. And Dable said he feels very confident about Jackson Dodd. So maybe you should start to feel Mr. Bing-Bong. OK, Mr. Commenter? Well, that's fine, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I did DM your wife, and I just said no DMs promise. I hope we can be friends Is that okay? Okay, okay, all right well we'll talk to you later later Jerry. Thanks for calling in All right, love you. Thanks for calling. Yeah Alright, see you guys. Alright, love you. Thanks for calling. Bye Jerry. Yeah. Doesn't hurt anymore. He just called you out of the blue. I think I might have butted out of the max. Wait, wait, you called him. I not on purpose.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Started going off with had his contact. That's a great move. I mean, he called you. Yeah, he was calling me when I picked up my phone. He was calling me. Yeah. His wife has a son. She's, she's, uh, I'm, I'm willing to, to unblock if Jerry's means it that we can get along, but I just, she's, she unblocked PFT and I on Saturday night, late night hit me with a follow. So and me too, which late night follow some may be like, that's a booty call. Uh, and then I woke up the next morning. I was like, you know what? I'm done with this. I can't, she's obviously interested in me. I'm going to block her and we're just going to go our separate ways. And then she proceeded for the rest of the day to tweet about me and follow everyone in our office. Uh, and when she, I blocked her. Thank you, Hank. That's my boy.
Starting point is 00:29:47 When she followed Stephen Che and Brandon Walker, I was like, this is getting a little crazy. Yeah. She knows what she's doing and we know what she's trying to get my attention. Listen, Rebecca, no, no disrespect. You seem like a very lovely woman, immensely talented actress. I'm married and I really don't want you to well no restraining or I think it's a I think it's super cool that she married her best friend like there's nothing nicer than than friend zoning your own husband which is awesome and I support
Starting point is 00:30:16 that I think they have a very healthy solid relationship I would never want to do anything to get in between that you and your best friend like you're such a great guy yeah but just want to say hi Rebecca I will be respectful the DM was just to let you know that you and your best friend. Like you're such a great guy. Yeah. But just want to say hi, Rebecca, I will be respectful. The DM was just to let you know that I'm not going to send you DMS. Okay, that's beautiful. So if you want to D me back, please don't because that would violate the no DMS policy. All right, love that. And I might unblock, but it's a lot of like, you know, middle school trying to be mean to me to try to get my attention kind of feeling and it's just like hey We're two adults. Yeah, we're two adults max still is just tweeting at her with the indented paragraphs trying to fucking try
Starting point is 00:30:53 Hey, mr. Oh, look at me. He's the real pervert in all this So now it's perverted just show some respect around here. Haha yesterday was the most perverted Haha, I've ever seen you did a haha in the middle of a tweet yeah it was that was a funny moment part of that sentence I wanted to just make sure that she knew that it was also funny what she's saying that her husband sucks a fantasy football I remember yeah I don't remember something max hitting on her back what are you talking about yeah haha haha it was just it was just showing respect right, let's go back to the next We're talking about you don't want to commit to saying something that might be taken too seriously
Starting point is 00:31:30 No, I've never heard of that move before now your what's your no? Luckily, my competitors are a lot like your husband when it comes to fantasy You're talking about how bad Jerry is at fantasize. Haha, then he said haha That is great unfiltered from the tap pervert that what are you talking about haha that is that is literally you're trying to laugh with her like haha it was it was funny it was funny it was funny I just wish Rebecca would understand that you're the real pervert here and if
Starting point is 00:32:05 she's got to worry about anyone it's you. What are you talking about? I blocked her. I've kept it clean. I've kept it clean from the beginning. Okay. You said. 100% clean. You said hope you're having a great day and then you just wrote your name you didn't even write respectfully comma Max you just wrote Max. You know who needs to put respectfully at the end people who it may be construed that they're not showing respect Not me. It was because it was obviously respect It's like when someone says with all due respect and then says something mean no that's always the nicest thing that yeah No, no, no, no, that's address max because the first time that you wrote her you said sincerely max Word count. Mmm. Yeah, I never you never want to go never read more. Yeah. All never, you never want to go on. Never. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 People have to read more. Yeah. All right. Let's get back to the next. Uh, so trade cat. That's what Hank would do. Pifty, are you in the trade cat? Uh, no, I don't think I'm in the trade cat. Here, here's what, so I think cat has become a, uh, again, he's not a perfect player, but you have to admit that Jalen Brunson is a liability on defense. Uh, and you have to admit that you use a lot of assets from a kale Bridges. He's got to play a little better, although he played great, obviously in the
Starting point is 00:33:15 Celtic series. And then you have to admit that something happened with Josh Hart where every time he tries to take a three, it like painfully hurts to watch. I think you probably make sense. You sprinkle in a little campaign. Yeah. Give him the green light. Yeah. Hey cam tonight's your night. We didn't get that this series. There's still a good team. There will be a good team next year. I just don't know. I, it just feels like immediately everyone hits the trade cat button. I also think you lose a game and it's like, he still is a matchup nightmare for other team. I mean he won a game in this series basically himself in that fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I think that Tibbs is going to take a lesson that he always takes from any time he loses some which is you need to do exactly what you want to do but you need to do it harder next time. So he's just going to be like we're not playing anybody off the bench. Yeah. Memes what do you think is a trade cat I don't know if it's trade cat and get Yanis that obviously yeah sense that makes sense if you could get a tier one superstar I like I don't think that's gonna go I don't think that's exactly how that trade would go down Jerry just sent me the photos of him in the tub yeah oh no we just got a lot of Jerry O'Connell
Starting point is 00:34:27 Oh my god, that's a lot of just blur out my penis bingo Yeah, I don't know where what the next to you I mean it was a I feel like it's a weird Spot that they're in where that was the best Knicks season in 25 years, but also you can look at the full situation and be like, man, we kind of blew a golden chance to get the NBA. Yeah. When you think about who you had to go through in the conference championship to get there, the Pacers on paper, you would have loved to have that opportunity, right?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Against the Pacers. Home court against the Pacers. And you got that big lead at the end of game one. You're going to look back and be like, damn, this sucks. sucks. That's a mean. Yeah, it was a mean oof There's a mean it was a very mean the Celtics number blue to 20-point leads. I made champions health exhaustion The last year's doing doing a lot of work in that set back just did a Max felt that for memes there. You can't really get in a fight with him
Starting point is 00:35:25 You can't get in a fight with Hank about these memes. Did you do the meme where you made the Statue of Liberty with Max's face on it? No, I forgot about that one. Mm-hmm Still time. It's the new crying Jordan. Yeah great year. I mean you guys got Kylie Jenner to Indiana Yeah, that's true. It's a huge positive. Mm-hmm Yeah, that's true. That is a huge positive. It still was a great year. Yeah. Completely ruined Celtics. They'll never be the same. It was a great year. That would be great for you if the Celtics just imploded, but I mean now you gotta just be
Starting point is 00:35:58 rooting next year with the heat of the Thousand Suns against Hank and for them to just like blow the entire team up. If they don't blow the entire team up then that that win ultimately won't really mean that much. Yeah. I think we're blowing it up. You're blowing it up? You're blowing it up? Do you have anything else? I still, I'll stand, I know it sounds stupid, but I'll still stand
Starting point is 00:36:18 with Knicks fans for celebrating the journey. I know it looks dumb in retrospect, everyone being like, oh, they raised the banner. I still it looks dumb in retrospect everyone been like oh they raised the banner I still think there's just a difference between fan bases versus the actual organization. We're gonna say max We we had the the street signs. When are they coming down that the street again? And I think the street signs were stupid. That's the that's just again. That's That's whenever politics politicians try to gain favor by being like ooh cool sports stories It always comes across as cringe that always sucks I do I do love the Greg Doyle impact on this series though
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah That was that was gonna be my who's back of the week was Greg Doyle just making an ass of himself being super awkward talking to Pascal Siakam and To the point where Pascal Siakam that like woke something up in him where he was like you okay man who is this guy who are you why are you asking these weird questions what is it about Greg Doyle that makes him absolutely have to say the most awkward shit at the worst time yeah he's a weirdo he's a big time weirdo should we say anything about the last
Starting point is 00:37:19 game on TNT NBA on TNT there, so they're still doing it next year. I love the gone fishing at the end. The gone fishing at the end was great. I do think there's, you can be sad about NBA TNT being over because TNT had the best NBA coverage, whether it be inside the NBA, their announcers, Kevin Harlan, it always felt, I don't know, just always felt like when you were tuning in to TNT,
Starting point is 00:37:46 it's like, this is a big game. It felt a little different. You'd also be able to like, they're one of the only channels where if you keep it on after the game and fall asleep, you'll probably wake up to a good movie. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Sometimes. Where ESPN, you'll just, you'll wake up to God knows what, but TNT, you'll get a movie after. You'll mix in like a weird episode of charmed Yeah, something with emotion smoothing on your TV. I still don't understand what it's gonna look like next year I feel like they might fuck up the inside the NBA which would suck But I'm gonna at least give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll still be Awesome and funny together the great part about though if ESPN does fuck up inside the NBA
Starting point is 00:38:23 They will be the first people to tell you that ESPN is fucking it up, right? Like they'll just go scorched earth Charles on their own shack and yeah, Kenny will just be like, yeah, they fucked this Yeah I liked at the end when when they started dropping f-bombs and just being like we've always been just in like fuck around Yeah, fuck around mode that's kind of what our show is about and then Ernie doing the the very solemn tearful. Goodbye Yeah That's kind of what our show is about and then Ernie doing the very solemn tearful goodbye Yeah, just when Ernie Johnson says anything you feel like you feel like at least somebody honest is on television telling you something Yeah, and I got a little sad when they I saw someone tweeted out It was the the evolution of the score bug from the TNT. Yeah that that made me a little sad
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's like damn. I've watched a lot of basketball on this station I feel like it'll it should be okay if you keep that core group of guys together it should be good. See look this is pretty cool. Just looking at it. It's like damn that is that is a long time. That's a lot of basketball. I love 2012 to 2014. Yeah. That's a great score bug right there. And I do love like the the the first one the 99-2001 it was like, this station doesn't know how to do sports. Yeah. You know? And they're like, hey, the Terminator's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:39:31 What if we played basketball in a Terminator scoreboard? So I just wonder what they're going to do in terms of the production team behind Inside the NBA. Are all those guys going to stick around? Are some of them going to leave? I don't know. I don't know. I hope we get...
Starting point is 00:39:44 I hope it stays as close to what it is as possible That's all I'm hoping for. Okay Should we do some national sports podcast stuff before we get to who's back in a week? All right before we do national sports podcast stuff Quickword from our friends at game time Hank do you want to look up an NFL game? You're excited for surely game time football is. The 2025 NFL schedule is out and the only place you should be getting your tickets is Game Time. The official ticketing partner Barstool Sports, planning our fall schedule and circling the games we want to go to with killer last minute deals. All in prices, views from your seat and their lowest price guarantee. Game Time takes the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets.
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Starting point is 00:42:38 Scotty Sheffler. Scotty Sheffler is a man on a mission. I don't really know what else to say. He won back to back Jack Nicklaus. Yep. The Jack Nicklaus tournament. So he defended his title to, the craziest stat to me was that Scotty Scheffler, he's now defended three titles that he has and that Tiger Woods has defended 23 titles that
Starting point is 00:43:03 he had. That's just, every time Scottie Shuffler does something awesome. It's really just a promo for how great Tiger Woods. Yeah, Tiger should be pumped about Scottie. He should be pumped. He should be rooting for him for now. But yeah, oh, you got the other sad. This is the meanest that ever win since May 2. Scottie Shuffler, three and four tournaments, the Colorado Rockies, three and 28 games played that's just that's an insult stat that's brutal did you hear also Jack Nicklaus afterwards he was as straight and to the point as possible he said Ben Griffin's
Starting point is 00:43:35 a nice player sep struck is a nice player Nick Taylor's a nice player Scotty Scheffler knows those guys are not in his league not they're not Scotty Scheffler that's it like it couldn be more clear. He's just playing at a different level than everyone else right now. And it's fun to watch. And then he also had the very relatable moment of his baby had a blowout and was handed a baby with poop in his diaper right after the greatest equalizer is a baby having a poop blowout. Yeah. It will humble any man. I love it how every time he finishes a tournament, his wife is just first thing like, hey, great job.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Also now the baby, you're on the clock. Yeah. Whatever happens from this point forward, that's your responsibility with the kid. Yeah. Also, we had Jordan Spieth almost kill a person. Yeah. That guy rocked though that he hit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:20 He got hit in the back and the guy immediately took his shirt off. Yeah. He hit a guy. No, different guy. No, that was different. Was that he hit a guy and Griff or the thing that was Ben Griffin has been Griffin. Yeah. No, Jordan Spieth. Watch this. I saw, I saw, I saw this one too. The guy ducks. It's, it's, it's as direct as possible. He ended up making par on that hole.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. This is what's crazy about golf is how close they put the spectators to the players. And they just assume that the players will never have a miss hit. And this one was going right. I said, but the other guy that got hit, the ultimate bro gets hit in the back and then immediately is like, I got to take my shirt off. That guy had been working out. That was the best day of that guy's life to get hit with the ball. He's like, yeah, I'm going to flex on camera real quick by far. Okay. So segue of Scottie Schaeffer, we saw the stat, the Rockies, they're 9 and 50.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yep. That's a problem. Fastest team to 50 wins in the history of MLB. 50 losses. 50 losses, I mean, yeah, beating, somehow they're worse than the White Sox last year. By far. It's crazy. The White Sox last year at this point had like 16, 17 wins.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah. It's, uh, fuck the Montforts, fire them to the sun. They need to be, sell the team. Nine and fifty is insane. It's crazy. Insane. The other the other two things I had from national sports podcast. One was we have a Christian yellowish problem because he's getting hot. I know he left with like contusion on Sunday but he hit two home runs on Friday. contusion on Sunday, but he hit two home runs on Friday. Uh, and he's getting hot and it's, it's starting to make me nervous. I'm not worried about it. I'm not. There's too many good lefties. And if it gets to that point, I will go tiny Harding on them. Yeah. So I sent him a text, interpret that how you will after his second home run on Friday night. And I said,
Starting point is 00:46:03 alert, please read this This message is for Christian Jelich, date of birth, December 5th, 1991. You have been flagged by Major League Baseball, banned substance department. Please report immediately to provide a mandatory urine sample. If you do not comply, you'll be suspended from all regular season exhibition events, i.e. home run derby, etc. Please please apply yes to confirm your receipt of this message if no reply is received within 12 hours it will automatically register as a positive test and you'll be banned from all regular season and exhibition events i.e. home run derby etc signed to MLB he did reply within an hour and a half yes so did I was pissed no but I was hoping I
Starting point is 00:46:41 was gonna get him on that technicality and then I was gonna send it to MLB and be like this guy is dodging. He also said that Literally everyone in the stands was talking about us eating each other's asses when he hit the second I love that that's gonna be good for his focus. I yeah, I've got an idea of maybe something we could do Okay along those same lines we should have somebody in this office take steroids and Then piss collect the piss and then just mail all the piss to MLB. I love that. And just label it Christian yellows is urine. I love that. And just send tons of it.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I love that. Is there anything against the law about mailing piss? No, I don't think that there is. I don't think so. We just need somebody that would volunteer to take stir steroids and pee into a cup. Ryan Braun joined the juice games. Oh, the enhanced games? Yeah, the enhanced games. Those look so funny. That one swimmer. Hold on, he's looking at you legally. No, you're not legally allowed to mail urine.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Okay, so- No, no, no, no, no, no. Tell the full story. No, you are not legally allowed to mail urine indiscriminately. Oh, that's a very key word. This is discriminately. We're not being indiscriminate. This is, we're targeted mailing to piss. This is as discriminant as it gets.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yes, intentional mailing of piss to a certain actor. Yeah. He's it's a problem. He, I don't think he's going to compete in this home run derby, but he did mention the all star game at Wrigley in a couple of years. And that started to get me nervous because it feels like he's going to, I don't think he's going to do it this year. I think he's getting himself like pumped up for a big stand at one point in the next couple years He's got a finger contusion right now. Yeah finger contusion. Why would he not do it this year?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah, you got to strike while the iron side got a finger contusion. I Mean he's got a finger contusion can't be hit with a finger contusion. I don't think. He should make sure the finger contusion is healthy. Don't take any risks. There's just so many good players. So many good players that are lefties that, I think MLB would, they don't want the storyline of the Home Run Derby to be two podcasters licking each other's butt holes.
Starting point is 00:48:37 No, I'd agree. Bad for the sport. Speaking of so many good players, I wanted to do something real quick. We need to give a shout out to Cal Raleigh, big dumper. Yeah, he's a beast. He is, now, Aaron Judge obviously is having an insane year. Aaron Judge is almost hitting 400, he's got 22 home runs.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Cal Raleigh is the catcher for Seattle Mariners. He has 23 home runs, and that's insane. He's the fastest catcher to, I think it was 22 home runs by that's insane. He's the fastest catcher to I think it was 22 home runs by by June 1st. It's nuts that he's doing this as a catcher like Max chime in you. It's it's insane 23 home runs for a catcher and I think he leads the league in in in in throwouts to second like he's a very good catcher too. He's played every game this
Starting point is 00:49:25 year so he hasn't caught every game he's DH some of the games but that in itself is still impressive that he's played every game. It's crazy. He needs a lot. He needs a lot more national attention national sports podcast. He won't win MVP but he's got my vote there. Yeah no cow rallies great. Probably Joe Mauer, the last like very good hitting catcher to, you know, catch steam like this. So he needs more. He needs more, more love. It just said every time Shohei hits home run, the world talks about it. When Cal Raleigh does it, crickets. We just need
Starting point is 00:49:59 to get Big Dumper going more because I feel like when Big Dumper gets a home run, that's a totally different. And he's an elite fielding catcher and he's doing this. It's crazy. He's got a I think a four, four, seven war, which that seems good. Right. And he's doing it. He's got less at bats than show. Hey, yeah. Yeah. So I think he trails show. Hey, by 13 at bats right now. Yeah, he's, he's pretty awesome. First catcher with 20 home runs before June. That's crazy. 23 home runs. Cal Raleigh, big dumper. He's our guy. Might go in the first round of the Dingers only draft. I think he's a great value. Positional value. I had him two years ago on the Dingers only. It was awesome. Positional value. I think he's easily won one. Yeah, has to be. Positional value. I think he's easily one one. Yeah has to be All right. Do we have any other national sports podcast things before we do who's back? What else national sports podcast? TJ watt has an offer on the table. Oh
Starting point is 00:50:58 But it's not to his liking from the Steelers from the Steelers. That's good Because he hasn't been to OTA. It would be really weird if TJ watt played for a different team What team could TJ watt play for that would be the least weird? Probably the Texans. Yeah. Just because of the brother. Yeah. I mean, you... Maybe the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, 49ers maybe? Yeah. 49ers could, like a historical franchise, doesn't have anything to do with the Steelers. Yeah. I could see that I could see him being a 49er and it making sense But I like you don't want TJ want to be like a Jaguar or like a Seahawk No one of the yeah, it'd be weird strange teams. Yeah, I could see him I guess unfortunately a Packer would make sense. You don't want him playing for the Ravens. I don't know you would no I don't think he would but that would also look cool
Starting point is 00:51:46 Get a sick vibe. Yeah, I would look cool Well, I mean that the Steelers would never obviously trade him to the Ravens, but it would look but it would look cool It would look very cool. Okay, let's do who's back of the week Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at truly? Truly hard seltzer. We love Truly, Truly Unruly Lemonade combines the high-alch fun of Truly Unruly with everyone's favorite lemonade. It's the official hard seltzer, a part of my take, lemonade let loose, 8% ABV, 100% delicious, four supercharged lemonade flavors, bumpin' blue razz, OG original lemonade, punched up pineapple, wild pink. Level up your lemonade
Starting point is 00:52:23 with Truly Unruly. Find Truly Unruly Lemonade at is stored near you or is it truly hard seltzer.com Henry my who's back at the week is Taylor Swift. Oh, you took mine. Oh, why big one? Why? She owns all our music now. Thank God. Even though she already rerecorded all of her music So she already she owns all of her music twice. Well now she can make some money finally. Do you? Are you being a hater? I Just know that my timeline was just a bunch of people crying literally crying biggest thing ever And I'm not judging because I've seen a grown man cry after a
Starting point is 00:53:06 Round one win for the Dayton Flyers. Okay, so that happens but How big was this my understanding of PFT probably knows a little more so I'll just give my thought and then he can enlighten me but She did not own her masters. That was a scooter brawn situation She did not own her masters. That was a scooter brawn situation God, but yeah, she re-recorded all of her songs and released them again, so she owned All the Taylor's version songs she owns all of them. Yep, so she had full ownership of her songs the new ones
Starting point is 00:53:42 Which are the same as the old ones? Yep, and now she bought back the old ones, but it's the same So her fans like it's not like the fans are getting anything new incorrect Hank and they're getting nothing new incorrect Taylor Swift the rich you are in the world you are a hater and you're a misogynist and it's okay it's all right just say what I'm glad that you're standing with your no I'm confused tell me what tell me where I was wrong so so Taylor Swift was basically working for free for the last 10 years no she recorded all she didn't make any money. She released a thousand versions of them.
Starting point is 00:54:07 So people had to buy and buy and buy and buy and buy. She's dead broke. I'm sure that you were happy seeing her broke. She was the most oppressed person in the world, basically. And so now, because she bought her old master's back. But what about the re-releases? She had to put in new labor for that, Hank. OK.
Starting point is 00:54:24 That was all. Should we re-release our? Oh, you had to put in new labor for that, Hank. That was all- Should we re-release our shows? Yeah, Hank does. He just does voiceovers for all of them, because I'm Hanksford. No one would listen to that. It's all Hank. So was this a big-
Starting point is 00:54:35 Doing different voices. Was this a big deal? No. It's a big deal. There you go again, Hank. No. You love putting women in their place, don't you? Put it this way, Big Cat.
Starting point is 00:54:44 You're a Taylor Swift fan and you want to listen to a song you could have listened to it last week You can still listen to it tomorrow Nothing change now. It feels less bad. No Hank Hank's like Hanks a well She should have rerecord all her songs from the kitchen. No, I heard that one online to rank and frankly. I think it's disgusting I respected the rerecord. I'll tell you I'll tell you what I got I'll tell you what the fans get different one of the funniest clips It was going viral for inside the NBA was Charles Barkley being like I'd never buy a Woman a watch for Mother's Day cuz there's a watch on there's a you can keep time on the in the kitchen
Starting point is 00:55:16 Mmm, and it was kept on going. It's like how did this show never get kids? Yeah, you've gone. All right, so Hank Here's what you get different. Here's what here's the new stuff that her fans get Yeah, all right, so Hank. Here's what you get different. Here's what here's the new stuff that her fans get The ability to add the old versions of their songs to new playlists So you don't have to just already have those same songs on that play Do you know all the emotional labor that her fans did avoiding clicking on? Yeah, I understand what like he's saying You're not... When you search for... Emotional labor. When you search for Love Story online, you have to make sure that you're not clicking
Starting point is 00:55:50 on the one that doesn't say Taylor's version next to it. Now you can just... the thumbs can just rapid fire and click on whatever they see. Also, I think that there were some albums that she didn't do the Taylor's version of yet that she may have been working on. But now, don't have to worry about that got it emotional labor Hank emotionally think about the emotional labor it's not just for Taylor Swift Hank it's for her fans it's for her fans who did a great job also did you see Travis Kelsey liked the Instagram post of her saying that she had Harry Styles Wow Joe burrow love that even love that was Kelsey who's
Starting point is 00:56:23 dating her liked it and so the nicest thing is like famously Taylor Swift is the only Musical artist that this has ever happened to where she didn't own her own music that other people are making money off of so now This will send a direct shot towards the music industry saying you can't do this to artists anymore You tried it one time with Taylor Swift and it didn't work. So good luck in the future Thank you yeah. You get it Hank? You get it now buddy? Emotional labor. She did a great job convincing her fans to be like you need to make me more money. Yeah. Great job. Yeah. Alright PFT your who's back of the week. Alright so Hank just took mine with Taylor Swift. I hope I was able to educate you on that. You were. Thank you. What are your final thoughts on the matter? Are you happy for Taylor or Are you so miss? I left and her fans and I love her music.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I can't wait to listen to all the versions. All too well. I'm happy for them. That's one, right? That is that's a song. Yeah, I think. Listen, everyone's got things are going to be passionate about get crying about, you know, Taylor Swift recording a bunch of songs you could listen to right before, but you forgot about the emotional abuse Hank. I say fair play. Let those tears go. It's not about her. Yeah, she's back. That's the other thing. You don't all versions of you don't understand. It's not about her. It's about what she represents. I don't know what you
Starting point is 00:57:38 represent. I'm not sure but it's about what she represents. I'm I'm happy for it. What she represents. Same. She's back. It's a victory for me. I almost said single cat ladies, but I didn't, because that would have gotten us in trouble. So credit to me. And learned. But yes. But also, yes, single cat ladies.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yes. And even women with multiple cats. Yeah. Multiple cat ladies who have a boyfriend. Yeah. Or women who have boyfriends who know cats. And single a boyfriend. Yeah, or Women who have boyfriends, you know cats and single cat men. Yeah, all of them. It's for everybody not dog owners. Mm-hmm Yeah, I think if you have if you have more than one dog if you like hoard dogs, yeah This is a win for you. Yep, but if you're like owners wives, yeah
Starting point is 00:58:25 You're doing it again Hank if you're like owners wives, yeah. Well, wait, it doesn't have to be. Hey, you're doing it. You're doing it again. You're doing it again. Dog owners wives. You can't go two seconds without being misogynistic. It's disgusting. It's gross for podcasts. Hank, this is how we don't we don't own our own masters on this show. I know you do. Now it's all making sense. Now, Hank is a student.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I own the masters of this show. I would not be you are the scooter You're the scooter brawn of part of my take so it's making sense where you're not happy for her fans good for Taylor good for Taylor my other who's back of the week. I'm just gonna say Bonnie blue Bonnie blue is back. Oh, she's gonna double up She's now doing two thousand men put it on the list Two thousand men while being tied up in a glass box open to the public can I have a take it sounds like I didn't want To do it on the show, but what the question better be same thing as me. I haven't one to think about it It doesn't make any sense. Oh, I thought you were gonna say you'd be down to be one of the two down Oh, okay. No, I was just saying I'm I
Starting point is 00:59:24 Think I'm out on all the body glue so out like to 2000 is just these aren't even real numbers anymore from just a physical say yeah, that's what I'm saying Yeah, I don't really want to think about it too hard, and I don't want to see it But it's like that can't like a hundred was like holy shit. That's crazy. I can't believe she did it, but 2000 like that's not That's like saying like what if I threw 25 touchdowns in a, in an NFL game? Like what? That's not a real number. It's absurd that it's becoming an arms race, but now it's, it's arms and legs every whole race. It's,
Starting point is 00:59:56 it's crazy to think that she's physically capable of sleeping with 2000 guys. I'm sleeping. Why do they always say sleeping with? They cuddle. I'm sure I'm out on pillow Talk I'm out on the Bonnie blue because it's like she just keeps going up and up and up with the numbers And I'm I I don't have any wow left. I Mostly you what would shock you what would make you go? Wow? I don't Thousand like it does not I think I was my last shot. What does that mean? You think that these are like fake stats? Yes, like we're in the live the juice balls era. Yes. Yeah, the girl all these guys like coming
Starting point is 01:00:33 I don't know. Yes. I don't know. Like what is I'll be honest. I haven't seen that thing And you don't really want to think about it, right? She could write Here's the thing is she just know that can't be true She could be lying about it because I haven't I haven't watched a second of the video of the actual thing I just monitor it like you're refreshing the stats and then it says she did it and I'm like, oh, okay. She did it I just trust her Max is trying to find the videos. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you've got it. It's going on there But it's yeah, it's it's absolutely insane
Starting point is 01:01:03 What she's even saying two thousand men the tied up in a glass box open to the public is she's gonna get arrested again, right? Didn't David Blaine already do that. Yeah, you did. Yeah She's just ripping off David. I would be I would be more impressed if she didn't sleep with two thousand men if she spent a Weekend being like I'm not gonna have sex this weekend. Yeah, watch me Yeah, she was like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna French kiss. Watch me. Yeah. She was like, uh, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to French kiss 2000 guys. Yeah. We're going to make out. What do you think the what's the world record on the most Frenching in, uh, in 24 hours is I'm going to let, I'm going to let 2000 guys, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:39 feel my tits over the bra. Let's see. Most men French kissed. Now if she could give 2000 hand jobs hand jobs to completion that would be impressive Yeah, that would that would actually I would start to think like oh my god. That's that's some record shit, right? Yeah, cuz you're gonna be sore like your arms. Yeah, you can be jacked up afterwards. Yeah, you just got jacked off All right, I have a couple who's looking something up right now. Yeah, most men French kiss in 24 hours Let's see the most kisses received and given within a specific time frame most kisses given in a minute Florian Silberian gave a hundred and seventeen kisses in a minute during a live TV program. That's not that many kisses
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, most kisses in eight hours. So I also paused a hundred seventeen is Alfred Wolfram kissed 11,030 people in eight hours also post 117 is Alfred Wolfram kissed 11,000 30 people in eight hours a second damn I think that's that's a record that's meant to be broken yeah well 11,000 sure you try to break it in eight hours I know I'm not I'm not a kisser These lips are sealed. I don't kiss and tell All right, my who's back Henry Lockwood You did some fucked up shit in Florida dude, oh Come on Yeah, there's a cop in Henry in Florida named Henry lock with this
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah, there's a cop in Henry in Florida named Henry lock with this No, we're gonna we're gonna I gotta pull it up or how many times you get tagged in it I got tagged in a lot and I was like, oh no, this is bad. Who is this like? All right, what is it says local town? So this this is where it's like there's a WL writing this No, this is bullshit. So this is where it's like there's an AWO writing this. Fort Lauderdale Detectives. High profile Fort Lauderdale detective fired after internal affairs investigation. I'm just going to read the one part. Abusing his authority misused. Lockwood's career highlights included co-leading a Thanksgiving turkey giveaway in 2023 for hundreds of media families. That is not a high profile fucking
Starting point is 01:03:44 detective. His career highlight was giving out turkeys as a co as a co-leader Local 10 investigates Fort Lauderdale detective Henry Lockwood wants a face of the department at future for giving out turkeys Hey, he gave out turkeys to a thousand two hundred families. That's crazy. Cola. That's so many turkey How many how many families have you given out turkeys to? Tons. We gotta beat, you know what you gotta do is you gotta give out to more, you gotta body blue this. You gotta go 2,000 turkeys that way the Henry Lockwood, you come up before him.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah. Detective Henry Lockwood. But yeah, bad guy. Disavowed. Yeah, bad guy. All right, my real who's back is the Stanley Cup final obviously Wednesday we're gonna have Whitney on on Friday and Do undo predictions because I also had a fun fact for everyone if anyone wanted to hear it This is now 45 consecutive years that there has been a teammate of yarn or your garter in the Stanley Cup final That is a fun fact crazy yeah 45 straight years
Starting point is 01:04:46 Obviously some of the guys before he started playing became his teammates and still insane I think it's oilers I Got oilers in seven. I think it's oilers little Panthers in five what? Oilers is a more fun story. Yeah, I agree. You just are you hate no McDavid just say you do hate Connor It's like a tail of the power that was a booth. That was a that was a panel move. Oh Okay, you get you get the logo up there. Yeah, well you didn't have to say Panthers in five more fun Yeah, you could have get a little bit different interaction going get the engagement side. Oh Panthers in four. I take it back Okay, okay. I like that and then my other who's back was revenue we so Jerry randomly called you
Starting point is 01:05:28 But I was gonna be Rebecca Romaine cuz she has the hots for me, but I think we're gonna settle it I think we're done. I think we're gonna I'm gonna unblock her Not the first time a friend's Wife has been like hates my guts or also has a hots for me. So what am I gonna do? Who else? Been like hates my guts or also as a hot for me. So what am I gonna do? Who else? Actually, I don't know if anyone's ever had the hots but that definitely friends watch hated me. I mean obviously Oh Is it Taylor Swift thing? No, just everything. No just being yeah, everyone has that right? Friends wives that or like friends. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah talking about that's the most guy thing to have happen. Oh, yeah your friends girlfriend
Starting point is 01:06:06 Hate you cuz you're fun. Yeah. Yeah, cuz you're too much. Yeah, that's like the good jealous I actually think that it's a crate if you don't have that you're the weird one max you got that For sure max is fun. Yeah max a lot of fun, right max. Oh I did yeah, you Max? Oh, I did, yeah. You didn't understand what I was saying? No, I just, it took me a second to find out who that one was in my head. Oh, I have more than that. And that one might have a podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. Yeah. And you guys have seen her hate me. Oh yeah. I'm confused by what PFT is saying, sorry. I don't, nevermind. You're a lot of fun, right Max? Yeah, Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Either way I think I'm going to squash the beef with Rebecca Romaine even though I will not. I'm not going to move off the take that she is interested in me with how she acted. You'd agree right Hank. I mean she was giggling like she didn't really disavow. Yeah. I just started laughing on the phone. I was giggling. I have a theory about that phone call that we got
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah, do you think that Jerry just? Did the the Max Delente? Invitation to the White House of the Big Dom to us with his wife. Oh Was that Jerry doing a woman's giggle? Oh We know he's a talented voice actor, but we did hear him get out of the bathtub By the way, and I alright because I, because I'm trying to make, trying to fix everything with, uh, I love Jerry so much that I want his wife to not either be attracted to me or also hate me. I want her to just be platonic. I thought there, I thought his bathtub would have been nicer. Yeah. Is that crazy? No, that's, you know what
Starting point is 01:07:44 that bath? That's crazy. You know what that bath? That's the bath tower on the Mayflower. Yeah. That's the, uh, the bath that he does not share with his wife. That's the secondary bathroom where he's allowed to bathe. Okay. Yeah. Either way, her bath is way nicer. I'm going to, I, I, I'm pretty, I think I'm going to unblock her and we're going to make a mess. I think at the very, we need to make a new rule Anytime anyone from that household calls into part of my take it has to be from the bathtub mm-hmm They have to be taking a bath doesn't matter who you are in that house man man or wife either way mm-hmm, that's the podcast room mm-hmm max Haha haha
Starting point is 01:08:22 Max Haha, haha Disrespectful, haha. It was a haha. That's a joke haha. That was this that was a big time. Ha we're kidding No, no big time back also never also who's back college baseball cuz it rocks I tuned in some Vanderbilt huge loss bandy will Whistler I think they were the first number one seed to not make a regional yeah ever I might have made that stat up to not make a regional. Yeah. Ever. I might have made that stat up. Either way there's been no no. To make a regional not super regional the regional. They were the number one overall seed I believe and they didn't make the regional. That camp that makes no sense. It starts at the regional. What did they make to lose in the regional. Oh they didn't make the regional
Starting point is 01:09:04 final. Sorry. Yes. Yes. There it is. They're the first number one overall seat to not make it to the regional final. They lost the right state. That's embarrassing. I also love this. I don't know if it's, um, if there's anything to back it up statistics wise, but it feels like the first weekend of the regional finals, uh, this Sunday, every single game is like 15 to 14. And it's a lot of
Starting point is 01:09:28 fun. You just bet the over. What do you got Max? Did you find it? Insanity, the commanders lose five forward to right state Vanderbilt is the first number one overall seed to miss a regional final. There it is. That's crazy. Shout out right state. Okay. Let's get to our interviews. We got Alex Caruso, then Ray Romano, and then we'll finish with lottery balls, PFT. Before we get to Alex Caruso, he's brought to you by State Farm. In basketball, the great players don't just go it alone. They have teammates, coaches, and a solid support system behind them. It's kind of like insurance, because let's face it, a lot of us probably aren't great at doing that alone either. And that's where State Farm comes in. State Farm is a teammate away, always ready to assist, help you find the coverage
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Starting point is 01:12:11 It is Alex Caruso from the Oklahoma City Thunder, ready for the NBA Finals on Thursday night. We actually were just saying this, I did a bad job because we were talking about it before, but how badly do you want the NBA Finals to start right now and sitting here being like let's just get this thing on also congratulations yeah thanks to start uh thanks for having me again excited excited to be back even though it's not in the studio you know this this counts at least a little bit yeah uh yeah dude I'm ready
Starting point is 01:12:44 to play games like Like that was, that was the hardest thing. And we talked about before this was like the eight days and nine days in between, you know, into the season, the first round and the first and second round, and like the opposite in the last two rounds, like we played game seven Sunday and then played Minnesota on Tuesday. So, uh, much rather just play. And like this whole week is going to be just interviews and trying to tell people, you know, the same five responses to every question. Can you give us those five responses? Yeah. Just give us all five right now.
Starting point is 01:13:16 We won't even ask you the questions. Yeah. Five is an arbitrary number, but like, you know, like they're going to ask about, you know, how do you feel about being in the finals? And it's going to be, oh, it's great. We're excited for the opportunity. And then they're going to ask about, you know, how do you feel about being in the finals? And it's going to be, Oh, it's great. We're excited for the opportunity. And then they're going to ask about Indiana and it's going to be like, well, they won three series two. So they're going to be confident. This is good. Like, you know, any generic coach speak answer you can give, like that's, that's where this one has us on deck ready to go. How important is like getting out to a fast start? Yeah. I mean
Starting point is 01:13:46 you want to, you want to win game one, you know, and you get in the driver's and prepare all a, all week to win game one. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, a PFT commentary from part of my take here. How do you plan on slowing down that fast break at the Indiana Pacers? Yeah, we're going to try and play defense. Um, it's this new, newfound thing. You know, it's pretty good. You get back in transition You try and play defense and stop the other team. Okay Good answer good answer Alex big cap apart my take When you guys do advanced scouting and analytics for this series
Starting point is 01:14:19 How many points are you expecting Thunder to cost the other team with his belly? points are you expecting Thunder to cost the other team with his belly? We've been looking over the past. The analytics seems gotten to us. It's at least six to seven. Depending on the weather, honestly. Rainy nights, he gets a little more enthusiastic. PFT commenter from Barcelo Sports, part of my Take Podcast. Alex, have you thought about how to best neutralize the John Halliburton factor? Mm-hmm Yeah, well they did that for us. I think they put him up in the suite. He can't be on the court anymore So that's a good start. Well, yeah, and also I mean SGA's dad didn't he just win Western Conference final MVP?
Starting point is 01:15:03 I didn't even know that was happening because everyone's taking pictures and stuff and my family's on there so I'm hanging out with them and everyone's in their own little circle. And then I see it probably the day later, he's tossing it up in the air and Shae's like, yeah, you want it. I was like, yeah, that checks out for the few times that I've met Shae's dad. Are you a little nervous though for real question about actually playing in the finals for the first time here? Because I mean.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I was wondering how long. And it's like. Like I would imagine like the guys look at you and they're like, hey man, you've been here. And you're like, dude, I haven't. Like we played in fucking literally Mickey Mouse's house. There were no fans. It doesn't count. It was a little different. However, however, the ring is still in the closet. So like,
Starting point is 01:15:51 like anything that counts, but it's been, it's been fun with the guys though. They, I can't remember who it was. Somebody made a joke about that too. It was like, Hey, are you excited about going to the finals for the first time? I was like, what do you mean? It was like, you know, with fans. It would be going to the finals for the first time? I was like, what do you mean? He's like, you know, with fans. It would be kind of funny if like the first like three minutes of the finals, the fans kind of fucked you up a little bit. You're like, oh shit, this is so different. Honestly, going into the playoffs this year, like we had the one series against Milwaukee my first year in Chicago and then a couple of playing games,
Starting point is 01:16:25 but like the playing games aren't the same as, you know, playoff series. And the first game against Memphis this year at home, I had so much adrenaline that I like, I had to like calm myself down. Like I had to like switch up my music and I had to like, start like actually getting into some breathing because I had so much adrenaline pumping through me,
Starting point is 01:16:43 like especially going through like layup lines. Usually I'm like a chatter, you know, I'm throwing out phrases to guys, like let's start fast, like, you know, be ready to be ready to go. The whole warmup of game one against Memphis, I was just dead silent. I was so quiet and I was like trying to figure out how do I get myself out of it.
Starting point is 01:17:03 And then once we got in the game, it freed it up. But yeah, dude, that was, that was probably the closest I'll be to being nervous before a game. Yeah. I feel like you just get out there and you fight your way through your first screen and then you're like, okay, now I'm focused. Now, now I know that we're playing basketball. It's like, what do they say with like football? It's like, you need to get hit like quarterback plays his first game ever.
Starting point is 01:17:23 It's like once he gets tackled for the first time, all of a sudden like locks in and like starts throwing dimes. That's kind of what it is. You get out there, your first screen, your first, whatever it is, you know, you get a little sweat going. All of a sudden it's just basketball. Is it an art fighting through screens? Cause you are like the best at it. Yeah. I mean me, we, we got, we got a handful of guys on our team that are, you know, they each have their own superpower defensively.
Starting point is 01:17:47 But yeah, we talk about it. We do a good job too. Like when we watch film, whichever guys like in the play, like we'll gas each other up for sure. Like there'll be a play where like Lou will just not get touched for like 10 seconds and like three different people try to screen them and then he, you know, chest somebody at 30 feet and takes the ball case and just rips people. Dubb just rips people. And then there'll be ones where like, I'm,
Starting point is 01:18:11 I just get skinny and I'm getting over all the screens. And we just turned into like a highlight reel. The players do, the coaches are obviously, you know, trying to like coach us and tell us to do stuff, but like the players, we do a great job of gas and each other up whenever there's a couple like that. So how do you get skinny's a couple like that. So how do you get skinny? I feel like that's something that this podcast could definitely learn how to do.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that might be the summer brand right there. It gets the pause. Yeah. Slipping all the screens. Just get as close as you can to the other guy. A lot of it's just anticipation.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And I'm also like, I have a good frame for the get skinny, you know, motto. Like I'm, I'm a, I'm a one 90 guy. And I'm just like straight up and down compared to, you know, lose like six, three, but he's 200 something pounds muscle. So for me, it's just literally get skinny, like get as close as you can to the guy and get through it. Yeah. I mean, you're great at getting skinny, but you're also, you have the capability to get big with it like just bump into a guy When when you were defending against yokage, what was it?
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yeah, what was that? Like just banging against yokage for for like the entire game just I'm gonna throw my body into this huge human being Yeah, dude. I was exhausted after game seven. I'm not gonna lie to you. That was that was like the most physically tired I've been all playoffs, like going into game one against Minnesota. I was definitely like, there wasn't a full recovery between playing Jokic for 25, 30 minutes and playing game one against Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Luckily, you know, our team's really good. So me at like, you know, our team's really good. So me at like, you know, 85, 90% is still passable. But yeah, dude, I was exhausted. That was one of those things too, where it's like you, you, you use that adrenaline to your advantage. Like in the Memphis game, I told you, like I had some, or before the first Memphis game, I had so much adrenaline that it was almost a negative thing. But like in game seven, at that point we had played every other day and then had two days. So we had two days to rest up for game seven and like recover.
Starting point is 01:20:12 So the whole game, I was just like, all right, I will die on this court. Like if I have to like fatigue, isn't going to be a reason that we don't win the game. But there was a couple of possessions, man, where I'm like laying on them. And like, luckily, we have great team defense and like, there'll be a couple where like I'm fronting them and then running underneath. Like the dudes, I don't know. I don't know what his official weight is, but the dude is like, he's like offensive tackle strong, like he's like immovable.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Right. And then he doesn't, he doesn't like make these super aggressive moves to get into the post. He's just like, takes, takes a foot, bumps you, takes another foot, bumps you. So yeah, it was a long night in the cold tub after that one. Did Jokic like talk shit or get, like, because it felt like you were frustrating the hell out of him. Was he getting-
Starting point is 01:21:00 Bro, he doesn't talk. That's got to be actually the weirdest thing, right? He's got a little bit like, you know, you've seen those clips of people talking about like Tim Duncan was like a silent trash talker. Yeah. You're like, like you've seen like the KG clip where he says he's like, he'll hit you in phrases like he likes a like, nice try. Like, you'll get it next time.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Like that stuff like yokes, at least to me, and like playing against him. I've never heard him like talk he literally is just like serial killer face you know like post you up get to the jump hook make it jog back down the court get a steal push in transition no look pass jog back down like just a blank slate the entire time that's got to be like very weird and awkward to have someone not talk any shit whatsoever. I have a question about the screens This is a dumb question I would assume like everyone's still calling out every screen, right?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Is there times when someone one of your teammates and maybe not on the Thunder but before Like just forgot to call it out and you just get you get like crushed Yeah, that happens that happens call it out and you just get you get like crushed. Yeah, that happens. That happens. Most of the time. No, not most of the time. The bigs always feel bad when they when they do that, because like it usually happens on the guy that's like picking up full court.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Yeah. Those are the ones where it's like you are picking up full court. So you're turning the guy trying to like make him work. And then all of a sudden you like plant and go and you take that first slide and then you just get rocked. Yeah, that one's now when you look at the big and you're like, hey, like what's going on? And they usually give like a, you know, hand up accountability moment. My bad. Yeah. Yeah. Because that feels like like that's something
Starting point is 01:22:41 like when you play pickup, you yell out screens. But if you don't yell out a screen in an NBA game, you could really fuck someone up. Yeah, well, the hard part, too, is, like, especially for us at Paycom, like, we'll go on a run, and the crowd will be so loud while we're on defense that we can't, like, you know, you can't hear your guys talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:03 There's been times where I'm yelling at Chet running down the middle of the floor, and, like, I'm three you can't hear your guys talk. Yeah. There's been times where I'm yelling at Chet running down the middle of the floor and like, I'm three feet away from him telling him there's a guy behind him, watch out, he can't hear me. And it's like, sometimes it's at a detriment for us because it's like, we're playing so good and the fans are so loud.
Starting point is 01:23:18 But obviously I'm not gonna, you know, that's not a, I don't want to trade off them being loud for us being able to communicate because it obviously affects the other team. Right. Do you know, do you notice speaking to the crowd when there's somebody in the crowd that's not wearing the t-shirt that everyone should be wearing? Yeah. What was the deal with that? Y'all, y'all went on a, Well, you gotta wear the t-shirt. You gotta wear the t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah. No, you gotta wear the t-shirt. Right. If it's there, if you're, if you're a fan of the team and we're at home, you to wear the t-shirt right is there if you're if you're a fan of the team and we're at home You got to wear the t-shirt unless your Thunder in which case don't wear a shirt. That's your staple You know have your own get up that that's like, you know people know who you are. Yeah super fan stuff With a with your defense being as good as it is I've always thought that practicing defense is like the worst part of playing basketball because it's just exhausting. Does it suck any less practicing defense
Starting point is 01:24:10 when your defense is really fucking good? Yeah, honestly, the practice part in general is just terrible at this point. Like I just don't enjoy practices at all. And I think that just comes with like after a certain number of years in the NBA, you just get over it. Like you play so many games, like you understand, you know, there's like, I'm not learning
Starting point is 01:24:29 anything new pretty much. Like I got like pretty much every coverage that the NBA does I've seen or heard or know. So at that point, it's just like, you know, get through the drill, know it and get to the game to be able to do it. Yeah. But for me, like I, like you said, I'm, I'm a defensive guy. So like that stuff kind of comes natural and easy to me. Whereas there's some people in the league that probably should work a little harder on that. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever think that you're a tryhard on the court? Oh yeah. Okay. All right. Good. Because there was the moment I'm talking about was the game six against the Nuggets. You guys were down like 14 with like two and a half minutes left. And you basically tried to like win the game yourself. And you almost did. I think you got two steals in a row and hit a three. And it was like, holy shit, is Crusoe going to just do this himself? But then I look back and you still end up losing by like
Starting point is 01:25:27 12. I was like, that was kind of a try hard move. Yeah, you know, it's the playoffs. If you're not trying hard, you're probably not playing anymore. True. It's also, I do that in regular season games. Like that's, I don't know what else to do. Like we're going to be out there. You might as well play. I like that. I mean, that's a good answer. And that's also why you're, you're, you know, get all the accolades on defense. You should be trying hard in the NBA playoffs. Yeah. I think that's a, that's a fair take to have. That's, that's probably a positive thing. I think. Yeah. But that was a try hard move by you. Yeah. No, it's more, it's more fun on the road to just because like, obviously you try hard at home, the
Starting point is 01:26:05 fans, even if you lose, they're like, oh, it's okay, you get it next time. But you sit on the road and fans might get a little nervous and then afterwards they're like, uh-huh, we weren't nervous at all. We knew we were going to win the whole time. It was like, all right, we're going to win the next game. Yeah. Do you remember the moment I'm talking about? Because you did kind of make the fans nervous for like a brief second, which was crazy because the the nuggets were up like 14 and it was like back to back steals.
Starting point is 01:26:30 We went small and we just I mean, at that point, like like you said, like you're down that much with that much time. It's like, all right, let's just try and get a bunch of steals and rip a bunch of threes or get layups. They also just didn't guard me on the corner three that I shot. I was just wide open. Do you feel disrespected when teams do that? No. And I'll tell you why not. I used to. I used to think that it was like disrespectful to me. And I guess maybe there's like 10% still like disrespect. That's just like the ego of NBA players. But like, you you
Starting point is 01:27:06 literally like teams have to decide what they're willing to like live with. And like shea getting 50 isn't something that they're willing to live with, which, respectfully, so like I would probably have the same idea if I was on the other team. So like, you know, I just get open shots and it's great for me. I love open shots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like open ones are easier. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. So what was your reaction when magic Johnson tweeted about you after you won game five? Is that just like the best that to me and I was just started laughing
Starting point is 01:27:43 because I've seen his tweets before where it's like, you know, it's just like an AP memo release. Yes. Like it's like a news tweet like congratulations to da da da da for advancing. Yeah, no, it was, it was great, great representation in, in recognition from, from magic. Yeah. Cause it's usually like a day after the thing happens,
Starting point is 01:28:04 he'll tweet about it, but this was like right when it happened he was the first thing he had to do was say congratulations former Laker and NBA champion Alex Caruso who now plays for Oklahoma City Thunder and is headed to the NBA finals did you get a text from him in addition to that or was it just the tweet no unfortunately just the tweet no tag either so you know we don't like we don't get any followers or any credibility off that either They got to like some people probably saw that or like who's Alex? Yeah, we're following Magic Johnson. Yeah, I got a question I bet you you're gonna be asked but let me try to ask it in a way that's not as boring
Starting point is 01:28:38 Your coach Mark Degna who's been awesome. He was your coach when you were on the G League Oklahoma What is it the, Oklahoma City Blue? Yeah, the Blue. Yeah. Have you had like a private moment where you're like, hey, this is pretty awesome. Like we were both at a level where you're at the G League and you don't know if it's gonna work out for either of you.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And now you're four wins away from winning an NBA title at the highest level as head coach and a major contributor. Yeah, not maybe not as direct as, as you just put it. Um, but like we both know, you know, how cool it is. Like he came in, he came and saw me, I live in Austin in the off season. He came and saw me workout and we went Austin in the off season. He came and saw me workout. And then we went to lunch afterwards one day and we were just breaking down the team and like, you know, I'm a basketball junkie and he's obviously a basketball nerd, guru, junkie,
Starting point is 01:29:34 whatever you want to call it. And so we were just talking about the team and like how everybody plays and stuff like that. And then we like, obviously like bring on like, you ever think that you'd be driving to Austin and watch me work out to get ready for an NBA season in nine years, 10 years ago? He's like, no, I'm not gonna lie, I didn't think I was.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I was like, yeah, me either. So we've indirectly, throughout the year, I think we understand there's just like that, that's probably the best way to put it. There's just like that understanding that, like, yeah, we were in the trenches. You know how long ago that was? It wasn't even the G League. It was the D League still. Oh, wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:13 It was the last one for the D League. That is crazy. And that's just a cool. That's like a cool sports story where it's like these two guys had the, the, you know, there's a lot of guys who the path isn't one one and being a superstar and getting all the way up there. It's like there's a lot of different trials and tribulations. So it's, I love the story. I hope they talk about it on the broadcast. If they don't, I'll tweet about it. If they don't talk about it, you know, I'll give you, we'll name a prize a cash prize that I'll give you if they don't bring that up at some point. Yeah. Yeah speaking of cash prizes
Starting point is 01:30:45 Have you gotten your watch that SGA got you appraised? How much was that? I don't know. I don't know the actual appraisal but like the market somewhere around like 15 to 17 Oh, I thought it was more. It kind of cheaped out on that. It's kind of cheap Don't worry about 17 of them. Well if I ever ever if I ever win in NBA MVP, I'm going to buy you $100,000 watch. That's the kind of guy I am. That's fair. Yeah. Which are really pleased. Oh, wait, did he custom for everyone? Is it like is yours different than everyone else's? There is there is there was like a handful of different ones, like a couple submit subs that were like I had a bluesy the silver and gold with the blue face.
Starting point is 01:31:33 There's a couple of black and gold ones. I think somebody got maybe there's two Skydwellers in there. There are a couple of different colors. Yeah, there was it was a mix. Okay, is it engraved? I don't think so. No, that would kind of rock if you got everybody watches that just said, yeah, I would like to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Yeah. Did he? Did he get the guy who did he get like staff or was just players? No, it was just players. Oh, cuz I was gonna say he probably like you got to get one for the guy who does rebounding for your free throw practice for him, right? Yeah. Well, I mean there's's like, there's unwritten ways, unwritten rules of like taking
Starting point is 01:32:08 care of guys that, you know, at the end of the year, like playoff bonuses, you get, you shell out some of those, you know, a percentage of that to those guys. Yeah. Yeah. That was by the way, it was a subtle joke about him being a free throw merchant. You didn't have to. Well, I didn't. Yeah, I did. Have you actually I saw a stat. It's like not. He's like not even the top 300 is. Yeah. In the playoffs, like I saw another one is like of all the 30 point scores and NBA history averages like two or like two and a half less free throws than all those guys. Yeah, interesting. Yeah. Have you I was gonna say, have you had a moment where you've thought yourself? Damn?
Starting point is 01:32:47 It's pretty cool that I've got two guys named Jalen Williams on the team. Mm-hmm Yeah, to be honest, although we don't ever call him Jalen Williams. So it's like hard to like It's either J. Dove or J. Will which was rich J. Will is the is the post player J. Dove is like the the all-star this year. He was the the wing guard Interesting you did you know that those are the only two Jalen Williams to ever play in the NBA Is it really yeah, you you're hogging them all yeah, holy that's cool. Yeah, fine The more you know yeah, yeah there another
Starting point is 01:33:21 backhanded Question coming your way Alex big cat from from part of my take are there any times when? SGA gets hit and he goes down and Like guys on the bench are like oh my god. He might really be hurt. You're like listen guys I've been through this with LeBron. He's fine I bet you're not gonna get that question in media. I didn't think you're going to tie back into broad. That's nice right. Kind of brought all the way around. That was that was good journalism. That's professionals. No no I haven't had that. That's OK. My past
Starting point is 01:33:57 experiences I haven't had the ability to teach the guys what that's like. OK. We have to ask about the Lakers. It's part of the contract. If you're in NBA media. There's two things that when I come on, there has to be a Mickey Mouse championship and a LeBron question. Yeah, well, let's be honest. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:34:15 If you're so lucky to win the NBA finals this year, which ring are you going to feature more prominently in your house? Oh, good question. Honestly though, I mean, you have to put them right next to each other, no? going to feature more prominently in your house? Good question. Honestly, though, I mean, you have to put them right next to each other, no? No.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Me personally, I wouldn't. I will say, so I got fitted for the first one on my pointer finger, because it's like, you know, you get one, you have one on your finger. Like, you know, Tom Brady has like however many, seven, right? Yeah. He's got seven fingers. Like, I want to keep doing that.
Starting point is 01:34:44 So like, it'll be on the second finger I love that middle finger the middle finger is the better finger we yeah we have I don't know if you've heard it's the best finger of the hand yeah we've had the debate I don't know if you want to chime in but if the Thunder go on to win the NBA Finals this year we have we've gotten ahead of it and we think this actually will be the worst Thunder team to win a title in their dynasty run. Cause you guys are probably gonna win like six in a row. So you're saying this is the worst this year. Yeah. We're gonna look back and be like, can you believe that team won? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a hot take. That also insinuates that we're
Starting point is 01:35:22 going to win like six. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. We're already like, we're way beyond that now. If you don't win four, then that's a disappointment. We're already ranking all of the championships you guys are going to win and we've already put this one at the bottom. Dead last. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. Well, if that does happen, I'll shake your hand and we can agree that this was the worst one. Okay. Yeah. Do you ever get jealous that you're not in all the commercials with Chad and SGA and all those guys? The AT&T one? Yeah. I'm glad I didn't make them sing this year or whatever, whatever they did.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Yeah. I'm not going to lie. Being on their team this year, it's more bearable to watch. Whenever whenever the first one came out last year, when it was just Chet and Shay, I think it came on so much. and I was watching so much, but I was like, I swear to God, if I have to see this again, I'm going to break my laptop and throw something like that. Yeah, now the other team is, oh yeah, it's great commercial.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Alex, you're the man. We've been rooting for you all playoffs. You're the only team I have is just you personally. You actually told me. Yeah, I am. I'm rooting for you all playoffs. You're the only team I have is just you personally. You texted me and told me. I am. I'm rooting for you.
Starting point is 01:36:29 We said that you're the face of the NBA. Yeah, you are. Somebody said that to me the other day. Who is Tommy? Tommy, yeah, big cat. I texted you yesterday. I said, yeah, what's the debate? Yeah, because it said embrace debate and he was like, what's the debate? He is the face of the league. Yeah. All right, so I have one last question, rowback question, rhopack.com, promo code take, 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips,
Starting point is 01:36:50 polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code take. Well, no, we're not gonna do any jinxes. We're rooting for you to win. We want you to win. If you do win, would you come on the show drunk? Oh, for sure. Okay, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:07 That's it, awesome. I think that's probably the next level of our bonding as being y'all's friends and a show guest is like actually being adults and going to get some beers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, well, if you didn't get traded, you were gonna be in our office all the time on the simulator.
Starting point is 01:37:21 That's true, it was gonna be, yeah, but we weren't gonna be winning as much, so it going to be like, yeah, bad beers instead of happy beers. I think if you win the NBA championship, you come on the show drunk. That puts you in the Joe burrow pantheon part of my take guests. Yeah. Wow. We have to do it. We get it. We need to do it like in a different spot though, like not in the studio. It needs to be in a, like a special, special. Thunder's house. What'd you say?
Starting point is 01:37:48 Thunder's house. Yeah. Thunder's backyard. Yeah. He invited us over. Just a kegger at Thunder's house. Yeah. I think what should happen is you should have,
Starting point is 01:37:58 since you play for the Thunder, you should have, we should go storm chasing together. Oh shit. Yeah. We'll think about it. We'll see. We'll see. Let's win it and then we'll talk about it. Okay. That's fair. All right. Do you have any questions for us? Because we're you know, you should you should start lobbing questions at the media and your press conferences. Oh, yeah. What's up with those new guy? Zach? Oh, Zach's here. The McDonald's. Yeah, he's McDonald's order. Yeah. Did you think that was too much? What's your problem with it? No, I just I wanted I was I was interested to two part one
Starting point is 01:38:32 the 10 to 20 nuggets How do you determine? And also how many sauces so I guess that's a two part first for this question. Yeah, Zach So usually nuggets go tail end so like if you're not feeling the full 20 you can kind of pop four or five Before the sauce and if you're feeling up for like I'm gonna house these then you start dipping into the different sauces That's crazy. You go four or five dry If they're still warm you pop a couple like put them on the plate
Starting point is 01:38:58 Yeah, you put four or five you eat four or five dried nuggets to see if you're really into that nugget mood Okay, that came off wrong. It's just like as you're assembling the plate, you know, you're reaching in the container, a couple might land on the pallet. In your mouth? A couple might fall out of the container into your mouth? Second question, second question. What flavor ice cream?
Starting point is 01:39:18 So all time Netflix and chilled is my favorite Ben and Jerry's flavor, but I will say last night I did have, they have a chocolate caramel cheesecake flavor I tried you should definitely give it a shot if you're ever in the mood for some ice cream, man Okay, I was Post postseason in the offseason. I'll get after that. That's a crazy order. I'm just gonna Especially do the five dried Nuggets Zach real quick. Did you ever think that when you shared this at two in the morning coming back from Indianapolis, you'd have Alex Caruso on the precipice of going to the NBA finals
Starting point is 01:39:52 being like, dude, what's wrong with you? Not even a little bit. I don't really know what to think right now. But if you need any other ice cream recommendations, I'll definitely send you over a short list of some flavors they have have their absolute hitters Ben and Jerry's only or is that like a Oh, no, we can definitely switch out brands if you have like a one like a hometown favorite you you enjoy Yeah, bluebell ice cream. It's a southern bluebell. Okay. Yeah, I can get into a little blue But they got that classic vanilla from bluebell. It's a little like uh, it looks a little yellow in the tub, but oh, it's
Starting point is 01:40:23 Yeah, yeah yeah they got like a birthday cake one too yeah he's a listen he'll do some market research for you I will farm him out to you to get you honed in on exactly what you want for ice cream bring him to Thunder's house yeah Yeah, yeah, he's in. He's in. I'll do whatever you say, Mr. Cruz. Just let me know. He also just calls us sir constantly. Yeah. Mr. and sir. It's professionalism.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Yeah, it is. It is. All right, you're the best. Good luck in the finals. And hopefully, we're getting drinks, and you're putting it on the second finger. Yeah man, four more to go. Appreciate it guys. Alex Caruso was brought to you by NASCAR in their Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez,
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Starting point is 01:41:56 And now here is Ray Romano. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, recurring guest. It is Ray Romano. We're getting ready for the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship Tournament in Tahoe. Ray, you are going to be there. We wanted to have you on to talk about everything, but also your golf game. By the way, we went last year for the first time. We're going again this year. the best event possible. Like it is heaven on earth. It's incredible. But how, how are we feeling? Well, I mean, I do you, do you golf? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:42:36 I used to, I just quit recently and it feels great. Yeah. Well, I got, yeah. How good are you? What's your handicap? You know, terrible. I think it was, uh, at its peak about a 24. Uh, I got, yeah. How good are you? What's your handicap? You know, terrible. I think it was, uh, at its peak about a 24. Uh, so not, not very good. Yeah. Well, I'm like a 14, I'm like a 14, 15, but, um, so I stink and I suck and I go, you know, I go in streaks where I'm, oh, maybe I can shoot in the eighties. Um, I've only broken 80 once in my life.
Starting point is 01:43:05 I shot 79 about two years ago. And that was, you know, that's the pinnacle for me was my goal was to break 80 once in my life and I did it. But my goal when I go to Tahoe, you know, there's these elite athletes, right? It's, there's 80 of us, let's say or 90. And they're all celebrities, but most of them are from the sports world. So there's about 20 from the entertainment field. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:33 And my goal is to I just want to fit because golf is the great equalizer golf is I know I can play with Steve Young, who's, you know, five times Super Bowl. I've been he's got five Super Bowl rings or whatever and I can compete with her you know I can't compete with you know Aaron Rodgers or Steph Curry but my goal is to try to come in the top 50 I've been playing 20 years there and I've never broken the top 50 so that's my realistic goal when I go there is to just break the 50 marker. Also because Barclay's getting better, I don't
Starting point is 01:44:15 want him to beat me. Yeah that's a fair goal to have. So what happened the year that that you were at your peak at this tournament? What was it about when you were at your best that you were trying to recapture? What? Well, when was I at my best? I guess when you were at the top 60? I've never broken 50. I think the best, and another thing is
Starting point is 01:44:36 it's the staple forward system, so you get points, you know? And if you double bogey, you get minus points. So my goal is to be in the plus the the highest I ever scored was a plus Eight I believe I finished plus eight, you know, so so so my I've 20 years. I've I finished in the plus Four times maybe so that's my goal is also to finish the plus but I go in streaks like Five months ago. I was a nine handicap and I've never been a single-digit handicap ever and it was my short game You know somebody gave me a little tip on the short game and that's the key man. The short game is
Starting point is 01:45:17 Can save you and you know, you can recover from a shitty shot Sorry, can I say that? Yeah, you can say whatever you want. Fuck, fuck. I'm okay. Wait, wait, give us the tip. Oh man, I don't know, it was just chipping. One guy gave me a tip, not to break your wrist in any chip shot.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Not to just keep a straight wrist for every shot, even like a 50 yard shot and a little chip from the side of the green. I started doing that, it started working. I got to a nine handicap single digit. Now I'm back to a 13, 14, because like any tip, it works for about four or five rounds and then it just starts going away.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Yeah, I have a tip that never goes away though. Maybe you can use this this year, break the top 50. You just cheat. If you just cheat at golf, then- That's my other problem is I'm very anal OCD and I play every rule. I play it when somebody plays with me, I really think I annoy them, you know, because, because I'm not good, but if I hit it OB and I can't find it, I got to go back to the T and hit and they're like, what's this guy doing? He's going to shoot a one oh one and he's worried about it. But I am. Yeah, I don't cheat.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Yeah, well, I actually I'm gonna correct you. I don't think it annoys people. I know it annoys people. Yeah, I want them I want them ahead of time man I don't take any gimme putts I do the whole thing man you know whatever whether they play with me again is a question. I think you can definitely beat Barkley I think that's a good goal to have as long as you can stay ahead of him then nobody's gonna question you. You know he's not he doesn't have the hitch anymore. I don't know how much you know that that yeah, yeah, he got rid of that. You know, that was a that was a psychological thing. And he was trying for years and I, I feel for him, man. I feel it's like, it's like somebody put a curse on him or something, you know.
Starting point is 01:47:18 So how do they work out the pairings for that? How do they work out who you're going to be playing with? I'll tell you the thing. 20 years ago when my show was still on the air and I had a little more clout and I could, and my boys, you know, I got three boys and they come every year and they were like, they were 12 and 11 then and I could request who I
Starting point is 01:47:46 could play with you know so I'd always find some New York jet or somebody I played with I played with a bunch of jets you know and then little by little I lost some of that clout and you know because I had no one could you can't really request who you play with I mean Steph Curry of course plays with his father and Travis Kelsey plays with his brother. But otherwise, it's just random. I get who I get.
Starting point is 01:48:11 And I I usually get the comedians. I get Baumgartner. I get Larry Cable guy. I get Rob Riggle. But I'll tell you, about 10 years ago, I played with Trump. I got paired up with Trump. And I think, you know, that's where the Stormy, what was her name? Stormy Daniels.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Yeah. She was out at that tournament. I was at that tournament, yeah. So I didn't see her, but I saw him. And he plays the same style as you, right? Like if he hits it out of balance, he says, I'm taking it back to the tee. No gimmies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Except, except he's hitting one on the tee. I'm hitting three. But you know, he was, he's pretty solid player. I think he was like about a 10 or an 11 handicap, but, uh, that was pretty interesting. Yeah. Yeah. How are you feeling about the jet season?
Starting point is 01:49:08 Also, where have you been for the Knicks? Have you not, have you not decided to go sit courtside? Like what's a man, if I was in New York, I, I, I try to be there, but Timmy Timmy Chambolet has all the seats tickets now. I know. Uh, yeah. I mean tonight, right? Chambliss has all the seats tickets now. I know. Yeah, I mean, tonight, right? I mean, listen, I'm more a jet fan and a Yankee fan.
Starting point is 01:49:31 I didn't follow basketball as much, but I was always a New York fan. And I was at a playoff game for the Knicks. I think it was against the Portland Trail Blazers, maybe 20 years ago. So I'm there. If I was in New York, I'd try to muscle into the game for sure, but it looks rough though, boy, I'll tell you. So how are we feeling about the Jets season? Are you all in on Justin Fields? Have you gone through the process? Yeah, he's out on the field and look.
Starting point is 01:50:00 There it is. Now listen, Ray, I can give you as a Bears fan, I've gone through the whole Justin Fields, uh, you know, story arc. So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer, uh, any questions you have about Justin Fields and your new quarterback. I guess my question is, uh, you know, do we have a chance? I mean, he's a great guy. He's a, he's, he's a, he's a runner, right? At least we got a runner. Yeah. Great guy runner. I always have faith. I always have faith. You know, I think last time I was on with you guys, I, I made some stupid prediction about the jets. Um, and I, you know, Aaron Rogers, I played golf with them once and I was really rooting for that to happen and my boys, you know
Starting point is 01:50:45 My boys are super die-hard I have twin boys and they took the red eye from LA for his first game and they were there when he ran out Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, we've uh and and the sad thing is I became a jet fan after Almost immediately after they won the Super Bowl in 69. So it's been a long, long stretch. But look, you're a Bears fan. I mean, you don't give up, right? You don't give up. No. Also, is that now, like, if you became a Jets fan right after Joe Namath won the Super Bowl, is it the Ray Romano curse? Is that what we're going to go with? Let's not. So you became a fan of the team.
Starting point is 01:51:35 It was a Yankee fan too. And they won. Yeah, true. They had some good, they'd won a lot of it. It doesn't apply to baseball. You're right. So you saw them win a Superbowl and you said that's a team I'm going to root for at that point. I was I was like 11 years old and I didn't I wasn't really walked into this Rooting van and I was following my older brother You know when when when it came time to pick a baseball team when we were real
Starting point is 01:52:00 like eight nine And my cousin was older than us and And so we, we asked him for his advice. And the only two teams we knew were the Yankees and the Cleveland Indians. Okay. And we had to like, decide who we're going to root for. And we made the right choice on that one. Yeah. How do you feel about Juan Soto going across town? You know, my boys don't like it. My, my twin boy says, Nope, can't, can't ever vote root for him again. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Business is business, you know? But I mean, I don't know the super details of it. I mean, if he's staying in New York, you know, uh, and, and didn't the Yankees offer him more money? I think it was comparable. It was close. I think the Mets might have offered a little more. Oh, actually it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:52:49 It wasn't, yeah. I broke it down with the boys. It sounded like it was the same, but if you broke it down, it wasn't. I'm not a New York fan where I can't, if I like the Yankees, I can't root for the Mets. If the Yankees aren't there, I'll root for the Mets. I'll if the Yankees aren't there I'll root for the Mets also, I was at the
Starting point is 01:53:07 My father took us to the game where They won their division for the first time when they in 69 when they you know when they won He took us to when they clinched the division and I remember running on the field As a young kid in 69 and I had theets, I had the Mets on my show, Everybody Loves Raymond. I had about nine Mets on the show for one episode. We had really everybody except for Tom Seaver, you know? So I got a little soft spot for the Mets too,
Starting point is 01:53:39 but I'm not rooting against Soto. I won't tell my boys that, because my boys are, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're at a different level than me. I actually have a question about baseball and your show. So on one episode of Everybody Loves Raymond, you met Barry Bonds, your character met Barry Bonds. Yeah. Your character was also a sports writer.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Yes. Would your character vote for Barry Bonds to go into the Hall of Fame? That's a tough one. That's like a that's like a Pete Rose question. Yeah. Mm-hmm I gotta get more details. I don't know. I Gotta be more informed just like with Pete Rose, you know, I'm I Think if I only know the stuff on the surface and from what I hear, you know, and he never bet on his team and what's going on now
Starting point is 01:54:34 with gambling and how it's everywhere, I mean, I might be inclined to vote for Rose to get in, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I also think Barry Bond should be in the Hall of Fame, because everybody was using steroids. Not everyone, but most players.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Most of the power hitters were. And he's by far the best hitter to ever play the sport. So I feel like- Was McGuire caught using stuff? Oh, yeah. Yeah, the whole Andrew bottle in there. Are you sitting down? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah. But it's a museum at the end of the day. It's got to tell the history of the sport You can't just be like oh the guy Pete Rose just didn't exist. That's crazy Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well now now, what do you think you think he's gonna get in? I do. Yeah, I do I think you probably will yeah, then which is a shame that they do it after he dies, but yeah I know I know I know yeah I
Starting point is 01:55:24 Got a I got a weird question for you, Ray. I'm ready. So I'm not, I don't think I'm going to apologize for this, but I'm going to acknowledge that I'm weird. I don't know if you remember this. I think about it every now and then. When you, we last saw you, you were actually in our offices when we were still in New York. We're in Chicago now. and you came on the YouTube show I do during the day and I asked you if you think your twin boys ever kissed because I have a theory that all twins have kissed at some point just because I know that if I saw someone who looked like me, I'd kiss them. I'm not going to apologize for it, but I'm going to say, hey, hand up. That was kind of a weird
Starting point is 01:56:03 question to ask you. Yeah. Not only do I remember it, I, I had to go to therapy for it. I do remember it. And my boys, I told my boys yesterday that I was coming on the show and they, they brought it up again, you know, and they, and they, they actually told me that there was a top 10 most embarrassing thing. It made a list. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't mind it.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Okay. It reminded me of, I used to do a bit in my standup about my twins, but this, and this was based on an absolute true story, is that when they were like four, they were in the bathtub. I was running the waterfall and they were in the bathtub. I was running the waterfall and they were in the tub. I got a phone call, I stepped out and then from the bathroom I heard, uh, EW! And I'm like, oh no. And then I hear, now let me see! And then, ew. And in my act, I was like, I didn't want to go in.
Starting point is 01:57:09 I wanted to like shellac the door shut. What? No. And I went in and true story, sure enough, one of them was bending over. The other one was stretching the cheeks apart. No. No. Oh, so they definitely have kissed.
Starting point is 01:57:29 There's nothing weird about it. That's how me and Big Cat prep for each show. Yeah, we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's before we get into this guy. It's just curiosity. Yeah. And then I said, hey, listen, I did that as a kid, but in the mirror.
Starting point is 01:57:40 I never had... Right. But that's life with twins. Yeah. Right. But that's life with twins. Yeah. That's when when you have someone who is is basically you, you don't have to look in the mirror. You can look at him. Yeah. But one of them got married last year. I had two kids get married last year. Awesome. I'm getting old, man. That's congrats. Yeah. By the way, tell that story at the wedding. That would have been a great toast. I did not. You know what? I wish I would have thought of that. I said some stuff that my wife said I probably should know at the wedding. Yeah. very talented guy here at Barstool who used to do the show with me. He three months ago had twin boys and so when he had twin boys I kind of was like uh
Starting point is 01:58:29 maybe I have to revise this theory of mine and he was like nah keep with the theory it's fine. Were they identical? I don't think they're identical but I literally when I found out the first thing that popped in my head was our interaction he said the same thing happened to him where he's just like, yeah, uh, yeah, I guess that was a question that was asked. Now we someday the twin boys are going to see this and just be like, Oh, shoot. Yes. I do remember one day they w we were driving it because that's the, there is such a uniqueness to identical twins. Yeah. We were in the car. And one was in the front one was in the back and they were I don't know, seven or eight I probably shouldn't have the guy in
Starting point is 01:59:10 the front. And the one in the back, I don't know what he's doing. But he just says, Hey, Greg, yeah, he was no matter what you do, don't squeeze your testicles. At least they help each other out that way. Yeah, that's good advice. That's really good advice that I never got. I needed to get that advice from a twin. Just being like, don't do this. At my age, it's try not to sit on them. Did you ever dress them to be the same
Starting point is 01:59:43 or were they always their own individual? My wife would give them the same clothes, but Greg had green and Matt had red. We had green for Greg. My mother could never tell them apart. Nobody could really tell them apart. That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. apart you know that's so funny yeah yeah I have another story this is not a this
Starting point is 02:00:06 is a more cute but the only time we when they were real little the only time we traveled with without both of them I had to come to LA for something for some audition or something and my wife came with me and they were like three years old and we took one and and this was the first time traveling and we got to the hotel and we have the one twin and we put him in the hotel and we're unpacking our bags whatever and from the other room we hear a thump and I go we go in there and it's him standing next to a full-length mirror and he thought he saw his brother and ran into the mirror. length mirror and he thought he saw his brother and ran into the mirror. Twins rock.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Yeah, it does. Yeah, it sounds like fun. Honestly. Yeah, I'm changing my opinion on twins. I think that everybody in the world has a secret twin somewhere. Like you might, you might never meet them, but there's somebody that lives somewhere that looks exactly like you. Like a, like, wow.
Starting point is 02:01:03 I've seen, unfortunately when you're, you know, when you're in a public high, you get, they let you know when they look like you, you know? Yeah. And usually the lookalikes, it's not, it's not a very flattering lookalike. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes, sometimes, but most of the time it's like, okay, I guess I got to get my hair dyed or something. Yeah. All right, another weird question. I actually don't think this is weird,
Starting point is 02:01:29 but it's more like a grown man saying another grown man, I loved your work in Ice Age because I have three little kids and you were phenomenal in Ice Age. I think there's a new one coming out. Is that weird for an adult to say that to another adult being like, hey, the wooly mammoth that you voiced, you knocked that out of the wooly mammoth that you voiced, you knocked that out of the park.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Well, thank you. And that brings up another bit I'm doing in my act, in my standup now. My daughter got married at the New York Public Library. And I don't know if you've ever been there. It's like, it's literally like the Capitol building. It's like the White House. It's this majestic building. And I can't tell you how expensive the sweating was. So in my act, in my stand-up, I tell the audience how expensive it was and they kind of laugh. I go, no folks, you don't understand. I got to do Ice Age 6 now. And that's what we're doing. Yeah, we're doing ice. I did that joke before it came up. And then they called me and said, hey, we're thinking of doing another one.
Starting point is 02:02:30 And here we are, man. I mean, look, the ice age didn't last this long. It's been 25 years since the first one, man. It's crazy. But, you know, yes, if you have kids, it's fun to do it and have, now there's a new generation gonna watch it. So, you know, I don't know,
Starting point is 02:02:54 I don't know what a new story they can make out of this. You know, I know we're gonna be running away from something, but we're getting the gang back together and doing another one. I love it. And it is, they are genius kids movies because they started with the, with the squirrel or whatever the animal is. Yeah. Yeah. And, and that's just, that gets the kids hooked right away. Like if you can get a little kid to laugh out loud within the first 30 seconds of
Starting point is 02:03:22 a movie, they're going to watch the whole movie. So they figured it out. How old is your kid? I've a six year old, a four year old and a two year old. Oh wow. Yeah. You're in there. A lot of ice age. Yeah. We'll be, we're, we're, I'll tell you right now, we're in for ice age seven and eight. Okay. So we're, we're, we're sign us up. Oh, sign us up. Oh, listen, I'm not going to, that's the thing. You don't want you, you don't say no to it. You know? Yeah. It's, it's, it's not the hardest work in the world. And I don't want to talk about the money, but the money's not bad also. Yeah. How long, how long does it take? Like when you do a movie like that when you're doing the voice how many like is it days? going I go well
Starting point is 02:04:09 It's a lot of days. It's not a lot of days in the booth but you go into the sound booth and you do like a four or five hour session and Then you come back months later and do another one and then a month later Do and it could take up to a, close to a year until they get all the audio down from me, you know? But the thing is, I've done five of those movies, I've never been in the studio with another actor. It's just all you.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Peace work, it's this, yeah. You know, you're on one page and then you're on the next and they have to tell you, okay, now you're running away from a dinosaur but there's a lava pit and they have to fill you in on where you are and yeah. But it takes about a year of getting into the studio. Do you get to watch your character as you're doing the voice work for it
Starting point is 02:04:56 or do they take your voice and then they match the voice? Yeah. They don't animate it till after they get the audio down. And then when you come back the next time, they'll show you a piece Of that, you know, yeah What they animated But it's it's a different animal. It's a it's and and and sometimes like you're you're running away from a
Starting point is 02:05:18 You're gonna get killed and you're screaming and they tell you, you know, your your head was this far off the mic You got to do it this you got to keep your face right in front of the mic, you know your your head was this far off the mic you got to do it this you got to Keep your face right in front of the mic. You know yeah, it's a little weird what? What's more difficult work doing voiceover like that or acting in a movie for Barton Scorsese? I I would say the believe it or not the animated is a little more tedious that way, but nothing's more scarier than doing a movie for Scorsese and not because of him. It's just because of me, you know?
Starting point is 02:05:59 I mean, I don't know if I, I don't know. Tell me if I repeated, told this story last time. I know you guys wouldn't remember, but when I did my first scene with De Niro, first of all, I can't even believe I'm on this movie. I can't even believe it. What am I doing here, right? The Irishman, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:19 The Irishman, yeah. And I'm face to face with De Niro, and I'm his lawyer, and I'm asking him, did you do it? It's a big scene, and it's like day two two and we do it, it takes, you know, you got to do it from this side, this side, this side, Scorsese standing right there. And De Niro, De Niro, I love De Niro. He doesn't say much, you know, he doesn't talk a lot, you know, when the cameras aren't rolling and we're there for like three three four hours cut go home that's the end of the day and everybody leaves you know and I'm like I don't need somebody to pat me on the back but I need somebody to tell me I'm not gonna get fired you know right and nothing
Starting point is 02:07:02 everybody goes home you you know, and I were staying at a hotel in Long Island. I drive to Long Island and I'm like, I call my wife and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to have this job tomorrow. I don't know. Nobody we there for so long and nobody said anything. She was calm down. Calm down. I get to the hotel, I check in and I'm like in my head like that.
Starting point is 02:07:23 And then I hear Ray and I look and it's De Niro and he's checking it. He's got his guy with him or whatever and I go, oh hey, he doesn't say one word, walks over, kisses me on the cheek, walks away. I call my wife, I say, I think I'm okay, it's a mafia movie, you know, a kiss on the cheek sometimes can go either way Yeah but uh Did you kiss him back? No, this this is not like the twins
Starting point is 02:07:55 Man nobody I mean that was yeah, I was like he he talked he kissed me off a ledge. Yeah That's all I needed. All it needed. Well, I got one last question for you, Ray. It's a row back question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com promo code take.
Starting point is 02:08:16 Great golf stuff. Like we said, Ray and a bunch of guys are gonna be out at the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship in Tahoe. We there. Uh, so my last question is, when was the last time you hit a patron there? And is that an active, uh, thought in your head? Because we've, I think we were offered to do the pro-am and, uh, we were like, I, we don't trust ourselves. Will this will be bad?
Starting point is 02:08:44 I probably hit one person every year you know. Listen if you average it out I'm not even joking because well you've been there you've seen the crowds that they're everywhere. Yeah. And we're all hackers you know I mean some of us are good but even even the good ones hit crappy shots you know but the scary one was about four years ago and it was during, you know, on Wednesday you have to do the corporate round. Every celebrity has to play with four corporate guys, you know. And it was during that round and the spectators are there and I hit a nine iron and I kind of skulled it a little so it didn't go up but it wasn't
Starting point is 02:09:25 a line drive and it was by the green and we yelled for and there was a bunch of people around and then I walked up we thought people scattered and when we got there there was a woman on her back and there was some here was a scary part there was someone next to her saying Carol stay awake stay awake Carol stay awake, Carol, stay awake. I'm like, what the fuck, you know, what's going on in the paramedics had to come. Uh, she, the good news is she was, she, she recovered. She was okay. And the funny news is, uh, I finally got to on my knees and said, Hey, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 02:10:03 And she said from laying down, she says, can I take a picture with you? And I laid next to her, we have a picture of Lay cause she couldn't get up. I'm laying next to her. But she went to the hospital, she had black eyes. I kept in touch with her for a little bit. It was one of the scariest moments for me.
Starting point is 02:10:23 I thought I was gonna withdraw from the tournament at all, but she ended up being okay. But I do, I hit a guy that's one of you guys' competition. Oh man, I'm gonna forget his name. He works for the guy in... Ryan Rosillo. Is that it, Florida? In Florida? No, no.
Starting point is 02:10:42 Oh, the Levitard show? Yes. Yeah, yeah. And the guy was there covering it and he was he want the weird part was he's married to my cousin's daughter, my cousin, my first cousin's daughter. And so he the guys were telling him, you got to tell Ray, you're related to him, whatever, whatever. And on the 17th hole, I didn't even know the guy was there. I never saw him before in my life. I hit that guy and he was ready to come over and talk to me. And then he didn't talk.
Starting point is 02:11:14 After I hit him, he didn't talk to me. He didn't get hurt. But then eventually we talked about it on the show that I actually nailed him. Yeah. I'm glad that that lady was okay. It would be a very, it'd be a very embarrassing lawsuit if you hit somebody and then they took you to court because your golf game was so bad. The thing is on the ticket, they, you know, they, there's no legal recourse they can take because if they come on the course, they know, but are you guys going to be there this year?
Starting point is 02:11:39 Yeah, we will. So actually I think we're going to try to do the get hit by Ray Romano challenge. We might just follow you around and stand like 200, 250 away and hope you hit us, and then we'll sue you. If you're 250 away, I won't reach you. OK, we'll stagger it. I feel like a par three is a good option for that. They 150. They within 150. OK.
Starting point is 02:12:02 All right, that's a sweet spot. But yeah, we'll be there. We'll definitely say hello. And thank you for coming on. It's a sweet spot, but yeah, we'll be there and we'll, we'll, we'll definitely say hello and thank you for coming on as always. Always fun to have you on and is this, is this Aaron Monday? Monday. Oh, okay. I was going to say go next, but it'll be over by then, right? Yeah. Maybe it will be game seven Monday night. Yeah. Keep the faith. We need cat. We need that cat to step. How's he doing by the way? Is he playing? Yeah, he's doing okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big per
Starting point is 02:12:31 games. Yeah. I know he's got a knee. His knee is okay. He's going to play. Yeah. He's got to play. He's got to play. Okay. I mean he played that he played. He got back in the game that night. So I would assume he's okay to play but yeah. Yeah. All right Well, we'll say hello and thank you as always and let's break 50 this year. We're gonna watch We're gonna be we're gonna be Ray Romano breaks. That's the goal. That's the goal to come in below 50th place Tell you what if it hits me, I'm actually gonna I'm gonna direct it towards the green for you. I'll throw it I'll throw it to the hole. You play it where it lies Yeah, we need an army out there helping. Yeah, let's do it. Gotcha. We got
Starting point is 02:13:08 I'll take it. All right, guys. Thank you. Thanks, Ray. Thank you. Part of my take is sponsored by better help. Men today face immense pressure to perform to provide to keep it all together. So no wonder that 6 million men in the US suffer from depression every year. And it's often undiagnosed. It's okay to struggle. Real strength comes from opening up about what you're carrying and doing something about it so you can be at your best for yourself and everyone in your life. If you're a man and you're feeling the weight of the world, talk to someone. Talk to a friend. Talk to a loved one. Talk to a therapist. With over 35,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform.
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Starting point is 02:14:09 Slash PMT that's better help HELP dot-com slash PMT Okay, let's wrap up the show by the way. I had this as a who's back, but then I looked it up And I guess it's like a month old. I don't know if you guys saw it I think it went viral this weekend. Mm-hmm, but uh It was Mark Ingram telling the story about how Jamis Winston once did a pregame speech that started in prayer and ended in the Monday Night Football theme song. I love it
Starting point is 02:14:35 So good. I love it. It's it's he's the best. So he's the goddamn best. Ah Yeah, good show boys. Good show. Zack. Did we have anything we missed? Also, good job by handling yourself with Caruso. I was nerve-racking Thank you, sir one One thing we talked earlier. We're talking about a Nick's blown that 14-point lead in game one may have been the biggest fourth quarter deficit blown the Milwaukee Bucks actually fourth quarter deficit blown. The Milwaukee Bucks actually, or no, the Milwaukee Bucks actually blew bigger. They had 29 points in the fourth to the Atlanta Hawks this one time.
Starting point is 02:15:13 Oh, okay. In the playoffs? I'm sorry. I take it back. Fuck you, Hank. Yeah, I'm sorry. So, next season, no longer a disappointment. Yeah, that's huge. That was a huge correction. Good point, Zach, I like that Zach boy. Yeah, and he would you trade cat? For you honest I'm down. Okay
Starting point is 02:15:33 That's a good GM right there. It's a real cat for you honest who says no. Yeah, no one I haven't heard a single person say no to that. Yeah, let's get it done. Let's get it done. Okay numbers I think those Hank. Yeah, that was Hank Say no to that yeah, let's get it done. Let's get it done. Okay numbers three I Think that was Hank yeah, that was Hank Memes had the echo three. I think that was Hank Jack you're in charge now You just demoted pug Wow did you just did you storm the capital on pug bugs not here? Yeah, but that was right that was pretty fucked up. What you just did memes you did that was a Charge that was a bloodless coup on pug. I don't know who got three first. That's who you guys think got three first there
Starting point is 02:16:13 The host of the show to sound it off give give pug your headset right now memes I Think that was pug Memes can we get more headsets in the back by the way? Memes just straight up demoted you. He said Zach's in charge. He made Zach president. There's a speaker in there? This room's getting crammed these days.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Wait, there's a speaker in the back room? Why does every time you have to put on headsets? Because if you would hear the speaker through the mic. So we need more headsets? if you would hear the speaker through the mic so we need more headsets we technically yes okay let's just get a couple more okay all right let's just get that done you know what Zack you get his headsets okay you Okay, okay Alright I'll plug you decide it was Hank. I thought it was Hank I wasn't here. It's kind of hard to it was Hank. Okay, rock-paper-scissors. Oh a fair president or a three
Starting point is 02:17:26 rock paper scissors shoot Memes up one nothing rock paper scissors shoot tie rock paper scissors shoot Hank one one rock paper scissors shoot tie rock paper scissors shoot tie paper scissors shoot Hank way oh Ball don't lie. Hey, those paper great podcast make it rain Was a good battle Wl mm-hmm all right one with all three yeah Memes you would you like to pick a number? Got sick yeah all three. That's a good one all right everyone else numbers
Starting point is 02:18:03 61 11 99 po 61 11 99 put 27 21 go Zack I got 55 so go 42 Zack what was yours 55? Oh Teen oh, that's mellow isn't it That's your favorite player of all time. That'd have been nice to hit but and shut the mellow Okay, shut the jackpot shot the mill. Great. Yeah. Yeah It happens. Love you guys. So So So
Starting point is 02:19:50 So So So Thanks for watching!

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