Pardon My Take - Alex Rodriguez

Episode Date: December 5, 2018

We take a moment to celebrate our #1 sports ranking in 2018 and thank all those that listen (2:35 - 6:07). Urban Meyer has retired, again. Mark Sanchez is back and the Redskins are done (6:07 - 16:18). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (16:28 - 29:39). World Series Champion and 3X MVP ARod joins the show to talk about his new podcast with Big Cat (The Corp, subscribe now), his entire career from Seattle to present day, the highs, the lows, regrets, and everything in between (29:39 - 92:21). Segments include Mike Greenberg's dumb rules fixing the punt, Hurt or Injured Markelle Fultz, and Guys on Chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Alex Rodriguez, World Series Champion, 3-time MVP, 14-time All-Star, and also my boss. We have a little bit of an announcement too, so make sure you listen to the episode and the interview. It's a lot of fun.

We actually asked some questions that we were not supposed to ask. A little teaser. Boys. Yeah, we were told after. We weren't supposed to ask some of those questions, but we went there. And we have Hatsi Cool Throne, guys on chicks. So Mark Sanchez and Urban Meyer, obviously. Before we get to all of that, we got a couple of ads we got to get out of the way.

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Okay. Let's go. Bye. Now, in the street there is violence, and then a lot of stuff, work to be done, no place to hang out or wash in, and then again, wave all on the sun. Oh, no, we're gonna run down to electric revenue, and then we'll take it higher. Oh, we're gonna run down to electric revenue, and then we'll take it higher. Welcome to the corner, my geek, because everybody's geeking.

Today is Wednesday, December 5th. Is there anything you want to say to us, Hank? Yeah, I think for us, buddy. Is there anything you want to say to us, Hank? Like any news that you saw that you might want to say, hey. Say something to us. Some, like, an accolade or an attaboy. Hey, good job, guys.

Scratch behind the ears, pat on the head. PFC, it's all right. Rub in your belly. You'll get them next time. No, no. Well, yeah, I mean, 14, room for improvement. Yeah, but you want to say, congrats to us for, you know, most downloaded. Oh, yeah, congratulations, guys.

You almost made the top 10 for this downloaded podcast. We didn't. Wait, wait, us guys. You're not including this? No, it's the team. Yeah. It's you. It's Bubba.

It's me. It's myself. And it's your award-winning listeners. Did Hank just resign? Yeah, you did. Hank just resigned. Oh, I don't know. I'm still stuck after that whole co-host thing.

I don't know how to say. You have some scandal that you're trying to, uh, is your health bad now? Is that why you're resigning? No, I'm good. Okay. Well, seriously, on a serious note, before we get to Urban Meyer, we have a ton of stuff. We have Alex Rodriguez interview. Thank you to everyone who's downloaded part of my take.

The iTunes charts, most downloaded podcast charts came out today and we were 14th overall. Number one in sports. Suck it, Coward. Heartfelt appreciation to everyone who has subscribed, unsubscribed, told everyone to listen to it. It's awesome. We love what we do because of you. Yeah.

It's seriously, this is the most fun that I ever have is doing the podcast. It's the coolest thing that I've ever worked on in my life. And having that connection with the listeners out there, it's awesome. It's very, very cool. I appreciate every single one of you that's listening right now who somehow made it through that shells and cheese ad. Yes. We ask a lot of you guys some, I think sometimes we don't acknowledge that.

We ask a lot of you guys to put up with our bullshit. Yes. So thank you. And I truly mean that. Yes. And it is, it is fun to see something like that and be like, oh, shit. Cause you know, we get bogged down in the details sometimes like, oh man, this is pretty awesome.

This is pretty cool. Love working with you guys. I love you guys. I'm pointing to you and Bubba in the studio. Yeah. And Hank and Hank. It's going to suck without your buddy, but we'll find a way. We'll find someone else.

Bubba's been doing just to find job whenever you go on vacation. Nope. Don't say the V word. All right. Let's speak. It's almost time to Hank. Here's the word vacation. Hank speaking of resigning shorts.

Urban Meyer has retired from football. He will temporarily, he will, uh, what do you say he will basically know probably not coach again. He's pretty much retired. He was the parlance of LeBron James. Yes. So he has the most famous alumni from Ohio. Yeah.

He's, he went to Duke. He's announced his retirement today. And, uh, how, how should we attack this in a graceful manner and not say that he's retiring because of scandals that have, uh, come up in the last year and maybe at a handshake deal being like, don't fire me, I'll just retire at the end of the year and say it's to work on my health. I have a way to do it. Okay.

Um, we'll just call him future USC head coach, Urban Meyer. Yes. So he's going to coach again. Right. He's absolutely going to coach again. So you told me earlier he is 54 years old. 54. He saw his, uh, brief stint at ESPN.

He had zero interest in being on television. He just did that because, you know, he had to buy his time, find the right place to land. It's like a real thing. People think he wasn't afraid of Nick Staven. That's not why he left. He really was passionate about television. Um, but it turns out he treats everyone in the media the exact same way while he's working with them as he did when he was working against them as a coach.

Um, so yeah, I don't know. I don't know what his immediate plans are, but it is, it's pretty obvious that he's not done. I want him to go to USC. Urban Meyer. Now he's had a lot of things. Let's call him things, uh, in his programs, a win it all cost approach. Let's say it that way.

That's the nicest way you can say it. Uh, he is a monster of a head coach. He won at Bowling Green. He won at Utah. He won at Florida. He won at Ohio State. Wherever he goes, he will win. I think it'd be great for college football if Urban Meyer went to USC, won there, covered

up some crimes. Nope. I'm not going to say that. Nope, nope, nope. Covered up some crimes on his coaching staff and in his team. Nope. I'm not going to say that. Um, and you know what?

Maybe the air out there, maybe everything will make him feel better. And, uh, those, those headaches that go away when he wins, they will go away permanently because they'll win at USC. Yeah. Maybe, maybe the smog over the city of Los Angeles will just blend in perfectly with the smog surrounding his programs. Yes. So big winner from this, Jim Harbaugh, our friend Jim Harbaugh.

He had to wake up and be like, thank God. Because urban Meyer, let's put it bluntly owned Michigan seven and oh and it is career to Ohio State That's pretty that's a bad-ass move to be able to retire and be like seven and oh against my rival The hot seat the loser of this Brian Kelly now I don't think that your buyers gonna coach at Notre Dame, but you better believe that if next year Notre Dame doesn't play well the entire year there will be a ton of urban mark. He's just lurking He's alert. It's basically if you are a premier program now you have urban Meyer lurking over your shoulder being like urban Meyer Yes, he's out there. He casts a long shadow too. He's taking a long nap. He's good his heads his heads clear it up

He's the health problems no more slash the Zach Smith Smith. Oh, there are three game winning streak He's probably feeling pretty spry right about now Yeah, Brian Kelly actually did the best thing that he could possibly do this year, which is going to feed it Yes, because if he had lost four or five games, I'll be immediate. Yeah, urban would just be installed Yes, they would already have changed the name on the door there. So urban Meyer retired For now for now. He is Brett Barber. He's a habitual retireer This is his third time that he retired people forget he retired in 2009 for a day after Nick Saban whooped that ass That's very and then he came back and then he retired again in 2010 then he retired again yesterday

What kind of he's gonna have to have a new contract Because remember last time you had to make a contract with a family now and he's got great So he has to write a contract to the great. He should just write a contract to himself. Yes You're like, hey, listen urban you're gonna you're gonna be fine You're gonna focus on football until Something comes up where it's clear that you should have been more involved even though you're involved in everything and you're the head coach In the most powerful guy on campus out of my head. So is he gonna retire after the Rose Bowl? Yes Okay, so the Rose Bowl will be a

Gigantic urban Meyer Victor victory lap. And you know what again? He might forget that he retired actually he might just come back next Yeah, and again like throw out the all the stuff that we could get into but this isn't that's not that type of show We're having fun here urban Meyer monster of a head coach. He does deserve the accolades on the coaching Maybe not the developing of young men that some end up in jail and whatnot and coaches, but we're not doing that We're not getting we're not doing that. I didn't do it. Did I I didn't do it once No, don't talk about the cover-ups of Aaron Hernandez. No, no No, no, none of it none of it urban Meyer. Good job solid man. Yes Ish solid man. He's probably pretty pissed off that teams aren't allowed to have Papa John's all the time like they used to

Yeah, that that news probably hit him hard. Yes, absolutely. It hit him just as hard as a Maryland touchdown. Yes Yeah, all right, so let's move on from urban Meyer. We have Mark Sanchez the return Sanchez. Yeah, are you excited? Well, I'll put it this way. I was very excited actually see him get into the game sucks What happened to Colt McCoy broke his leg well to pass is that not really broke as it's the fibula So, I mean come on. It's the small bone. Yeah, nobody you don't you can walk around without a fibula through to pass Yes, I can appendix. Yeah useless Evolved past that should we done chain the Redskins? We should yes. We should done chain the entire franchise I wanted to make that statement right now because I'm pissed off. I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore

I think not this is not just a season-long done chain. This is a franchise done. Whoa Redskins are committed to shit. Well, guess what PFT the saviors coming They're they're they are bringing in the biggest quarterback name out there TJ Yates. Nope Josh Johnson. Oh, okay pretty cool. Pretty good They were thinking the Yates of Hell they were thinking EJ manual basically anybody that has initials out there Mm-hmm. They're gonna give Charlie Whitehurst. Where are you? Yeah, Charlie Whitehurst. Maybe um Jake Cutler would actually be the perfect Redskins quarterback. Yeah, he would I don't shit. Let's do it. And I don't care They were talking about bringing in Kaepernick today, too They they made they had the discussion internally and then they said they didn't want to bring them in

They wanted somebody that fit more of Mark Sanchez's style so that they could have somebody to seamlessly plug in Yeah, so basically looking for like a nine-year-old diabetic dog You just throw out there just puke on the sidelines and white boogers all over Mark Brunel Mark Sanchez Good teammate. That's what everyone says great team. I'm gonna be a good teammate I'm sure he's a fun guy to hang out with really off the field, but I'm done chaining the entire organization I want to make my intentions very clear that at some point. I'm going to own the Washington Redskins Oh, I'm just saying it's one of those tricks that you read in yeah Yeah, you say if you say it enough no matter how weird it is there was a book that was written about it

I remember like reading I remember hearing somebody talk about reading it where you just say you're gonna do it and everybody will believe you No matter how ridiculous it sounds. There's a podcast series about that type of stuff I thought those Bible where you just say stuff and the people just saying just pro just being like say it if you See it and believe it kind of thing. Yeah, okay. I'm going to own it I'm going to own the wash dance nighter. It'd be a real shame if to Sean Watson hurt himself I'm gonna own that team actually put together like a brief plan of what I would do if I only just like flip it around Ready one install an actual field. That's to that's a big step. Yeah number two Brighback Raul John mm-hmm called Raul John Maryland. It's a great name. Everybody loves it three open tryouts every single week

I like that like an invincible with mark you find the next marquee mark. Yes out there bodies on bodies for bodies on bodies bodies For change the name now It makes everybody happy because you have people that find the name offensive the name changes They're happy and then you have the fans that seem that don't find the name offensive But are still fed up to shit with everything that's happened over the last 25 years the names got a stink around it, right? Mm-hmm. You hear the name Redskins. You think losers. Yeah big crummy losers. So just change it some cool Okay, like what? Oh, what they should just take one of the names that the new Seattle hockey team doesn't use Yeah, that's a good call the Washington Washington whip asses

Oh, I like that whip asses. Yeah, the other thing that happened on Monday night football We had the Eagles somehow getting life and if you look at the rest of their schedule They will not have life, but they have life for right now. Yeah, they're playing. I think they play the Rams They play the Texans they play the cowboys at the cowboys. So they have to win next week It's a it's a loser leaves town with the cowboys if they don't win that but they gave just enough hope And it's always great to see Darren Sprouls out there. Yeah, it is. He's fun I think the Eagles are the very they've reached they've gone out of being in the or of having a bum stench around him They're no longer bums. No, they've got their value net for now

They're frauds. Yeah, we think that they're good, but they're not gonna do anything And I also figured out what Carson wants his problem is he has never seen Zach Erts not wide open even though he's covered by like four guys He throws it to him Non-stop and Zach Erts has to make these acrobatic catches unbelievable tight end and I don't know if you heard But he might be breaking Jason Witton's record. Is that Julia? It's his wife. Yeah, her husband Julia Erts his husband. There was cheese whiz on Zach Erts and barbecue sauce on Jason Witton. They kept on showing that graphic what happened to the jury

I want to know what happened to that Jersey They never really they said that they gave it to him and then it ended up so on Jason You can't leave me hanging like this hanging. Okay, let's do hot seat cool throne. You want to start Hank? Sure, okay? My hot seat is I got a few my first one is Mo Bamba the song or the player the song because Has become aware of it has been singing it non-stop for like the past couple days So that's pretty much as cleared clear as day sign that don't change It's over. Yeah, once once I start like, you know singing it. I don't even know the words. I'm just singing mo

Bamba mo Bamba and the kids get going. That's pretty much it just the part where he goes fuck shit, bitch I like that part We're in Baton Rouge and we're coming back from the bar and I was trying to get Hank to explain to me I was like Hank tell me why this song is so cool and why college kids lose your mind because I don't get it And so we sat in a car may have indulged in a little herbal remedies and Hank was like trying to explain it to me I was like, I think I get it of it because when he says fuck shit, bitch Yeah, it's cool when people cuss and so I was like, okay

That amps me up a little bit and then I was like this traffic jam sucks When are we getting out of it and turns out that we had just been in the parking lot? Yeah, of our hotel small bomb for the last five minutes. Yeah, and I had no I thought that I was on a road somewhere That's a mobile dude. Yeah, put me in the zone It is I described it to the windows to the wall when we were in college to the windows to the wall Do you know that song? Yeah to my sweat dripped down my balls All these females crawl all these cute motherfuckers all skeet-skeet God That's when the skeet-skeet is just respecting women. Yeah, Hank

This is when music was music when artists were actually saying something unlike this There's no songwriting and poetry anymore, it's terrible I was gonna put pft on my hot tea, but I'm just gonna put me and big cat on the cool throne. Oh Your big history guy pft as everyone knows you should know history repeats itself What happened to you this week is exactly what happened to me with the James Washington thing Broke one you got it, right? You're true You got the high taste and then you just were looking any anyone that was studying any DM I'm gonna run with it. I'm gonna run. That's not true at all. Yeah. Well, first of all, Hank

Let's set the table and explain to the listeners what we're talking about. Yes. Sorry So we got that we got the Mike McCarthy news on Sunday night, right? Monday night comes around pft texts a group text. He's like hey got news Kelly Bryant Arkansas guaranteed Tomorrow trusted source. Yeah, and you said should I run it? I said well The problem is we're flying a little too close to the Sun But you should probably run it and you ran it because you have an addiction to breaking news right now That's what happens. Okay, because I've I we all have been there. I I told people forget

I told my entire section at Wrigley that John Glenn passed away. Is that guy passed away? No buzz Aldrin Everyone clapped everyone's like, holy shit, dude, that's what they're clapping for you for me. Yeah breaking you so it's fucking So I understand where you're at, but this one you got wrong. I got this one wrong Hand up. I well I got it partially correct because I said that he would be Committing to Arkansas barring a last second change of heart which he had so we announced the change of heart So yeah, we broke the news that he had a last second change of heart before he did Yeah, listen you get into the nugget biz and you become like a gum shoe sleuth and you feel good about getting that one, right?

And it's it's a high. It's like heroin. Okay. I've never done heroin, but it's exactly like heroin Here's what we're gonna do for everyone out there the next piece of news that we break 100% guarantee that it's correct. Yep We are not going to take any more risks We're gonna get back in the winning streak Then if we get that one right, then we can get back and get play a little fast and loose Then we fuck everything up. Yeah, right But next one you hear from us when we say breaking news and we will obviously

Couch it with a lot of language to give us an out like we always do what happened last time is we were like We're just gonna start sticking to full backs. Yeah, yeah, and then we did that and it worked and then we got the James That's where we have all our connections are in like full backs and certain college But we've had a couple that were guaranteed no doubters So we just need those again. Okay, you're listening. If you're an agent, we know you please give us the next scoop. Yes Sorry, is that it? I also had bootcut jeans on my cool throne. Why because GQ wrote an article saying they're back They're back to what are these? Those are normal, but I think bootcut jeans

I know this is relatable But I had a pair of jeans that I thought were normal jeans that were bootcut jeans for like my entire high school career What is bootcut jeans? It's like they're like super wide at the bottom The you can hold a hair no, that's carpenters pants got it bootcut jeans are like the mullet of denim It's like business up top and then party at the bottom is Bell Bottoms kind of like Bell Bottoms Yeah, but they're Bell Bottoms the Bell Bottoms got a job. They're Bell Bottoms If Bell Bottoms played for the Yankees if the disco that you're going to was also like a construction site got it That actually remember that Simpsons. Yeah. Yeah, sure

Okay All right, my hot seat is Dogs. Oh, yeah putting dogs on the hot seat. Well, first of all, we still I'm still pretty burnt up about Georgia being left out The college football play after Bulldogs like how are we gonna know? They're the team that can beat Alabama and we'll never know if they can beat them most likely to beat out never know So that's gonna be burning me up for a while My the other reason the main reason dogs are on the hot seats because George HW Bush's service dog He went a little bit viral

Over the last couple days because he was seeing laying down in front of President Bush's casket and then he was accompanying the casket to the When he was laying in state at the US Capitol and then slate did what slate does yep And they well actually to America wrote an article saying Well, actually that dog had only known George Bush for six months six months. So but in dog years That's what three and a half years. Yeah, that's a long time. Yeah, they didn't think about it that way They also shamed so I had this in my hot seat too But they the person who wrote the article shame the dog for lying down at the end

He said this is simply a photograph of a dog doing something dogs love to do lie down our love humans The frenzy around it captures something humans love to do Project our own emotional needs onto animals. You know what? Yeah, I fucking do that. That's exactly why we have dogs Yeah, it's still looks me. I'm like, oh, she said oh, it's like no, I'm actually sad and I have a lot of things I don't talk about deep down. Yes. That's guess what that's called therapy. Yeah idiots Like we don't hug each other, but we love each other, but when I see my dog I'm like that's something that I love that I can hug. Yeah, right exactly and you know what it is It's reminding me of

Ann and Cole Smith remember when she married that guy. Yeah, they were only married for a couple months But she loved him. Yes when he died and left her as millions of dollars true That was love good point. That's what this dog felt towards President Bush. Do you have another hot seat? No, okay, let me yes. Oh chatterboxes. Okay chatterboxes on the hot seat There's this one fan apparently on Seattle that that sits right over the tunnel Where all the opposing players run out onto the field and he likes to talk shit to people and I guess a couple years ago He got hit with a snowball and then filed a lawsuit against a guy He took his trash talking to the last guy that you want to trash talk when they were playing against the Niners

That's right. Cassius Marsh my favorite player and Cassius allegedly threw a cup of Gatorade on him and This guy reported it to the police Alright, so here's what he said. Okay, he goes I always get the scoop on these players visiting opponents and I said hey, Mr. Marsh Did you ever get your Pokemon cards back and then he didn't like it? And I got doused with a full cup of Gatorade up in the stands So you'll recall Cassius Marsh had $50,000 worth of magic the gathering card stole from his car when he lived in Seattle

This is one of many reasons why he's one of the best NFL players the last 50 years But fuck that guy. Yeah, fuck that guy I actually feel the worst for his homeowners association or the condo association that he's a part of you think this guy's a Definitely the guy who complains about like oh someone left the door open for five minutes and you know, okay, you know We had bugs in here. Yeah, imagine like a finding everyone $25 in HOA in Seattle You've got one guy walking up and on the street every six hours being like hey, it's raining take your bag down Yeah, hey, it's raining. There's a leak in this that flag. Take it down. I shouldn't be out in the rain Fuck that. All right. What's your cool throne? My cool throne is dude. Perfect. Oh

Our old friend old pals dude perfect and I kind of flipped the script on it I said earlier today on the radio that I would I would leave this place in a second to join dude perfect now Okay, because they make $20 million a year off their YouTube only but here's the thing There's no way they spend that on cool shit. No, well, you're right. They don't but I'll they probably they don't state I'm saying like they cool shit. They like get a pogo stick in a fucking go-kart. I bet you that boats Yeah, but you know what you do that. You don't need 20 million dollars. No, they live in Seattle. They live in Dallas They definitely have boats. There's no water in Dallas. No, they have boats jet skis. Fuck you, Hank Why'd you do that?

But they're probably lame boats that don't even have coolers on them They probably get a bunch of that shit for free if they do they probably film with Zeeman. Oh, they get so many yetis for free Fuck all right. Move on. I don't want to talk about dude perfect anymore makes me mad I should have broke them up when we had the chance. We really should have we still can we still can that one guy with a beard is very clearly the leader of the group and if you go after the twins and you start telling the twins Hey, you guys should get more shine. This guy's taking all your driller boats guys dripping you out. Yeah Dripping so hard. He's drowning you in his drip. Yeah, you gotta start swimming. Yeah, you're covered in skeet-skeet drip So my other cool throne is the library just libraries

Okay, because Starbucks they announced that they were going to start banning Internet porn in a Wi-Fi system. So you can still go to the library all-time clip crank off there for free Carl Monday Yeah, all-time clip if you don't know it We'll tweet it from part of my take it is an all-time clip. You have to watch it that guy's clip ever that guy in that clip Oh, how stay fit. Yeah, probably couldn't rub it out in the library today Yeah, they're gonna hire some pain. Well, maybe if celebratory one or no, not a slip But maybe like one and he probably got a debilitating headache. Yeah found out that you weren't allowed to crank right, right? All right

My hot seat real quick is anyone who thinks they're dumb and because George W. George HW Bush Did you know this did you hear about this? I did he invented the phrase you demand in the 1960s He told people it's like Bobby Valentine saying that he invented the rap. I believe it you demand Yeah, that sounds like something George Bush would say so anyone who thinks they're dumb man The guy who invented you demand is no longer with us You're no longer demand. Mm-hmm. He also invented. I think the phrase died with him. He invented read my lips, too Mm-hmm true. No new taxes My cool throne is Seattle. They're getting their team back

The hockey team. Yep. Thank God. It's been too long too long people forget that Seattle won a Stanley Cup Yeah, that's true today Spencer Haas told me that okay. That's definitely I'm gonna know sources. This is a scoop 100% guaranteed from Spencer. Yeah. Wow. Okay, so they're getting their team back Hank. What should they name their new team hot seat you? Give us like three names. Come on Hank super soakers. Oh Yeah, yeah, I don't know a big alliteration guy. Yeah, so keep going go on go king Sonics, oh the sonics. That would be nice, huh? Yeah, that would be if you were to reuse their old shit Well, yeah, yeah, not the super sonics just the sonics. Mm-hmm and Seattle

What about the Seattle Sean Kemp's? Oh, I thought you're gonna say Seattle shotgun. So it's gonna say too soon Seattle centaurs Oh Okay, Seattle centennials That's good You're so only a hundred year old people can go Like that. I'm into that. Yeah, turn the stadium into a hospital. What are they gonna name it? Seattle Selma's Whatever they're gonna name it prediction Whatever they're gonna name it half the people on the area be mad half the people are gonna like it just like their jerseys

You know what they should do they should just go by Washington and do Washington Redskins Hmm The football team and change the name to double down on dance night. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's do the interview Alex Rodriguez big interview big news coming in it You got to listen to the whole thing like I said before in the beginning of the show We asked some questions. We weren't supposed to ask but because a rods my boss I was able to ask them and before we get to that though Fanduil PFT and I've been playing on Fandu all season long

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So this is weird because I think a lot of people anticipate this interview because of our storyline and if you haven't followed it I've basically been internet stalking a rod for about two years telling everyone that I work for his company even though Well, I do work for your company, but it in the last six months we actually have started actually working together and We have created the corp a podcast about business and successful people that will be dropping Tomorrow if you're listening to this on Wednesday, you'll be dropping on Thursday. You can go subscribe right now Alex and I go interview interesting people Mike Francesa We have the Barbara from from shark tank

The Sixers owner a lot of really cool people and it's gonna be dropped kind of like a cereal where it all goes out at once So there'll be one season and it's six episodes. It's seven episodes. That's not how cereal works the same thing But yeah, yeah, no, oh, yeah cereal does go every week. So what would it be like a Netflix? Yeah, you can drop it all you can binge listen Mm-hmm, so we actually have been working together Which is weird because people expected this interview to be like the first time we actually sat down together But we've been working together Traveling around interviewing people, but you are finally on here. So go subscribe to the corp

But I told you before we do the corp. We have to do a part of my take interview So you're welcome welcome to the Thunderdome. It is a true pleasure to be here. I'm a big fan of your show And a big fan of both of you you guys are rocking and rolling man. Thank you. My first question is are you trying to take my job? I Am not because I don't have glasses like that. Okay, that's true It is a situation always improve Yeah, where I'm walking like I'm walking in with my main piece and I see my side piece a run I'm like, oh, this is awkward right now. Yeah, so the corp has been you know, we've been killing it business-wise This is gonna be a little bit of an awkward interview because I think there are pieces of our business

Between us that we can't disclose how much money we're making millions and millions and millions My first question though when we're going public. Yeah when we're going public When is my first paycheck gonna show up because I still haven't gotten paid for anything What's phantom stock and the way you're going is kind of disappearing soon. Yeah, we don't do phantom stock it on this show I need some real stock. I actually have to pay my bookies We have to figure that out So is is big cat well, how would you describe him as an employee of the corp? Actually, let me ask you this What do you tell people about big cat when he's not around? How do you describe his employment status to just um?

Let's say you're hanging out at having a whiskey with cubes with mark Cuban Yeah, and you're like, hey, there's this guy that's been stalking me. How do you describe him? If I'm having a cocktail of mark Cuban the last thing I'm talking about his cats. Mm-hmm. That's for sure Mm-hmm smart, but but if if unfortunately the conversation goes there, let's see Why I said he's he's been a decent employee He's been suspended for a while because he obviously was late to one of our big meetings one of our corporate Uh, you know shareholder meetings. Yeah, can't do that and he's kind of still in the process of crawling himself out of the black hole Okay, but

Spin zone you and I were two guys. We work back from suspension when we get suspended. We come back even stronger That's a fact that is a fact and you do have a second chance because I'm a believer. Yes Yes, yes. Um, all right. So can we talk some baseball though? Sure. We're gonna talk some more court, but let's talk some baseball Let me get us cubs. No, I want to talk. We want to talk about your career because like I said We have to do it like a real part of my take interview even though we know each other I don't think your audience really wants to talk about my baseball, but let's give it a shot. Oh, yeah Yeah, they probably want to know about your investments. Okay, so we can start. Yes, we can start actually Let's start at like the beginning because I went back. I did some extensive research on you

I saw that you were offered to play quarterback at the university of miami and you declined Were you chicken? You know, like you didn't want to play man sport fear was a big factor for sure um I thought it was the coolest thing growing up in miami to be a quarterback at the university of miami and play shortstop remember that we did not have a major league baseball team growing up in miami the marlins came late and uh University of Miami was like our Yankees. It was, you know, Dan like your cubs And the fact that with that rich tradition that jimmy johnson brought from the 80s of football Man, it would have been awesome to play quarterback

So what made you decide not to like were you just like i'm i mean, obviously you were Of money superstar money really money. Yeah, yeah, I was eight. I mean I was 17. I was broke As broke as you can be You know, my mother walked worked worked two jobs for forever I thought it was normal that all moms, you know, single moms would work two or three jobs That that was par for the course of course learned it wasn't but I just wanted to make sure she was retired And I needed to kind of get my career underway plus when you're one one Meaning first round first pick. That's a really alpha way to say it. Yeah. Yeah one one like we're

We're I mean, there's nowhere to go but down. Yeah. Yeah, well you so I take it Then you didn't get to the conversation that all Miami recruits get to is how much are you going to pay me Because like money can't be the deciding factor if you're going to go play for the Miami Hurricanes, right? You know, I said on the board of the University of Miami, so Okay, I certainly certainly no money conversation was brought up. Yes, but I am a huge Can't came fan. Yeah, who is your favorite player growing up like watching those? Was it schnellenberger as a coach knows a little bit before my time. So my guys were like testa birdie Erickson

Michael Irving and Jerome brown You know So you you you obviously go you you go one one you go to seattle and What how is it like I always wonder this with an athlete who is Goes from basically high school to you are now a superstar like a LeBron James or someone who goes directly from high school to like The expectations are enormous on you. Did it change overnight? Were you did you go from all right? I'm just a regular guy to oh shoot I'm not a regular guy anymore I mean, yes and no, I mean the fact that I went to a market like seattle in the pacific northwest

It kind of gave me this like covering and not only was I at the kingdom But also had this kind of cover of being a behind the greatest player in the world at the time with ken griefy jr He was or michael jordan. He had nikey campaigns gatorade And what was interesting was he was six year my senior so It was nice because I was able to learn from him And he was always the best player on the team and the biggest star So I never came in as you mentioned a LeBron James or even a Kobe Bryant

Well, Kobe a little bit because he had shacks. So it was probably more like Kobe But it was fun. I enjoyed it. I had unbelievable mentors great manager It was in a in a strange way like going to an amazing university and getting Your phd or your masters from people like lupinella eggo martinis ken griefy jr. Right that's two business guys mean you I would say it's like an incubator almost Out there they were nurturing you making sure that you were growing gave you some seed capital start So you get out there. That's actually That mid 90s to late 90s

Mariners roster is one of the best rosters that I think has ever been assembled Would you put it right up there with some of the Yankees teams that you played on? I Certainly and you know the sad thing is is that you I found out very quickly the difference between good and great is very small And it's just sometimes an extra pitcher right and the one thing that would never change is you know You you lead with great pitching you win with great pitching you saw with the cubs You saw what the red sox did this year Yeah, it was it was a shame, you know, that's a great, but I think that's one of the best teams has never won

Yeah, yeah, I mean the you just rattle off the names. I mean agar martinez j. Buehner. I was so scared of j. Buehner Yeah, his look. He's a scary dude. He had to go to go. Yeah very seldom Do you have a team that you have the best pitcher in the game in randy johnson? The best player in the game in ken griffith jr The best pure hitter in the game in agar martinez and the scariest baddest motherfucker and j. Buehner Yeah, who is the locker room guy who was like the glue guy on that team? So there's a few so I would always say joy quora alex quora's brother who graduated from vanderbilt And just a tremendous guy kind of a navy seal game started at 7 p.m. He would arrive at 10 a.m

And I said holy shit. I mean this is like another level and for me seeing that as a guy who was like five foot six And was limited in his ability, but had the heart of like brave heart, right and I remember saying to myself when I was 19 when I 18 when I first came up I said if I can take my god-given ability and emulate everything that joy quora does God, I gotta hang around for a while And that was just a great example great mentor to me. He was tough He was nasty and I loved every part of it, but he would not let you get away with an inch Yeah, and that's what I wish young players had a little bit more of today. I like those types of mentors

Did uh, did sweet lou ever get really mad at you all the time all the time. I got demoted five times in one year We knew that there was a 95. Wow. Yeah, and it was a strike year 94 was a strike and then the following year I got demoted five times It's gotta be a record, but you know to answer your question Pft one of the things that At some point. I'm like i'm 19. I got demoted five times Should I be fucking playing quarterback at um? Why am I doing this? The last time I missed uh I had demoted four times it was now late in the year

And I think I make an error and strike out a couple of times and we lose We had a really tiny office in Seattle the kingdom So right when you come out of the dugout you come in and you have this long clubhouse But right when you come in you go to the left you go to lupinellas and you go to the right the first locker skin griffin jr Well, I went into lupinella's office. He was you know, probably the second or third cigarette Coach says hey skipper wants to see you. I know that. Wow. I know how that feels so I go here comes and

I walk in the room. I can barely see him. There was smoke everywhere And he was you know just having a little cocktail And he said alex and his shirt was open kind of belly was out a little bit and he's alex. I'm sorry, you know I'm sending you down and I finally broke down. I said man, it's How can you send me down for the fifth time? This can't be part of the development process? Uh, this this sucks, you know, I remember driving down An i5 to Tacoma to AAA where AAA was about 45 minutes south of Seattle and

I said, this is the time where you think about a second plan Right. I still have my eligibility to the university of Miami to go play quarterback And I called my mother and I said mom i'm coming home. I'm Gonna move back in the house because I still live that at home like most 19 year olds And I said i'm gonna give uh, you know football a shot And she said are you out of your mind first or you come home changing the locks And basically grow some fucking nuts and you stay out there and get it done That's crazy that you actually had like, you know second thoughts of maybe this isn't for me

Even though you were 1-1 and and still like everyone I feel like the buzz when you came into the league was still At an all-time high. So what was the moment where you're like, this is I'm good like I'm I'm stuck here I'm gonna be a really really good baseball player. I'm not worried about getting demoted Well, I think it was such a blow, right? It was such a blow to the stomach I felt like Tyson punch me in the stomach. Actually, I don't know how my tassel punch. I probably wouldn't have I would probably be in Seattle but It took everything in my power and my mom's power and my siblings and my friends to

Support me because five times in one year Never did I imagine and when you have to be demoted five times and that that just really stunk and to be honest I was supposed to be a sophomore in college and I'm like this demotion thing sucks And ultimately when I went back that off season, I remember getting home My plane the plane landed at uh around midnight. I went to the university of Miami I jumped the fence and started working my that night about two in the morning in the track Getting ready for next year and that work ethic never stopped till I got to spring training

And I knew that with lupinella. I better get this bird off the ground or else I'm gonna be demoted again And that was the year that I won the batting title and really established myself and Was just a few points shy of winning the mvp So it was like the the people around you convinced you not to give up on this and stick around or was there something in your Head that because you strike me as a pretty competitive guy. Um, was there something where okay, you get demoted five times You there's this element of fuck you. I'm gonna prove you wrong, Lou Yeah, I mean, but but at first That's not the reaction right at first is just demoralizing

because you're a sophomore in college, right and You're not used to getting into an offer and say hey, by the way They're not telling you this but it feels like hey, you stink. You're not good enough go down to triple a right And and then coming back up There was always a great deal of pressure because I felt like a margin of error was so small That if I screwed up again, I would be demoted again. So it was this kind of ying and yang that was not fun So if there wasn't at that point Build that when I went back home that off season before 96

I said, all right, I'm gonna fucking prove to Lou and to everybody that I am worthy of being a major league baseball player Excuse me. I'm gonna work around the clock to just fucking get this thing done What was the reason that he did give you like on that fifth? We're all the demotions for like the same reason Hey, you need to work on like your bat speed or like you're having trouble with a breaking pitch Like what was the reason that he gave you that fifth time? So first of all to make it clear Lou is like a dad The reason to me the reason why I love him so much is because

I thought he did things to to make me better and tougher early on I do believe in tough love and and you know He is the epitome of that Every time was a little different But it all had to do with fundamentals and really honing in Your fundamentals, whether that's you know playing better defense Or not chasing breaking balls or any of those things But what it did for me is that although I was playing in Seattle because Lou Panela

Learned under the two religion Billy Martin I felt like we had the east coast pressure In the pacific northwest in Seattle and it was great training and I didn't even know it at the time But every time you knew what was going to happen Like like Belichick. It was there was zero tolerance for bullshit And fundamentals worth were a must And what happened was as I got older that became kind of like my rock and my biggest asset that I was I became a master of the fundamentals

If If you're signing with texas if it was in the social media era What would the reaction be because you went from uh, you know the mariners a young roster this like up and coming Uh roster and then you go sign for More money than anyone has ever made in major league baseball at that point In a franchise that doesn't have a ton of history in the texas rangers Do you think people would have would have roasted you on social media? I think they would have roasted me

But then there's the other part of this generation where people are always trying to be number one And this is america and it's about the american dream and I played for seven years. I played a fair and straight. I Came out of it. I was a free agent and the system says is a free market Were you close to anywhere else? Was there anyone else who you were like this might work out because I mean texas Offered you more much. I was like 50 or 60 million dollars more than the next guy. Also people forget no state income tax Yeah, right, right. No, we know that. Oh, was there anyone who was close? Like were you thinking about seattle where they so there was about You know five or six or seven teams we were talking to I think when it came down to like

Maybe there was top four But in any negotiation once you get in a room it kind of just takes it to the next level The only organization that we did that with was tom hicks the owner at the time and the texas rangers And I think people don't realize it because now we have you know The cap went up in the nba and people like john walz We're gonna make 42 million dollars next year and people are wowed by these numbers when you sign that deal with texas That was like The that was the biggest deal 252 million dollars was like holy shit. This is an insane contract

Did you feel it almost instantly? Yeah, I mean the irony was that you know the biggest contract in sports history at that time Was kevin garnett 126 and there was exactly double. I didn't plan it like that. I didn't negotiate I wasn't in the room Like right to the death I believe that you like sit in the room and negotiate it, but I do believe you were like you get you told your agent like Hey, get it exactly. Yeah, exactly. You can tell us. I wish I can say credit for that. I wish I wish um, you know dan, did I did I feel it right away? Yeah, I felt Uh, I thought there was a huge move. I probably didn't realize how big it was until maybe years after

But you look at 24 years old, I mean You're not expecting just like you wouldn't expect to get demoted five times in one year at 19 You're also not expecting to get that type of contract at 25. Yeah, and it's interesting because you know I always think I'm always on the player's side when it comes to these contracts because what happens is a guy signs a huge contract And if he doesn't produce right away now, you obviously produced, you know Huge huge numbers for texas, but if he doesn't produce right away everyone then blames the player and it's like well He should get paid whatever anyone's going to pay him It's not it's not the player's fault that the management and the ownership paid him too much

So did you ever like did you ever feel like people almost kind of like hey a rod? What the hell you don't deserve this type of money even though you were producing like I said in insane levels Yeah, I mean I think look I think a lot of opinions came From everywhere. I've been a lightning rod Ever since I wasn't a lightning rod in seattle ironically because I was kind of hidden a in the northwest and be behind griffy jr And I wasn't making the big salary yet. So in many ways I was kind of david not goliath Right the minute I went to texas. I became goliath. Did you feel the lightning rod thing like people hate you now? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I mean hates a strong word. But yeah, maybe hate

I mean, I think that I think people probably started to hate you and I mean, it's weird when you say sports hate because I think just We love sports so much But you realize when you take a step back that it's still a sport And you know, you have not committed a crime. You haven't done things. It's just you know, you're capitalizing on You know true capitalism, right and is a system that is rich You know people don't understand that when I first entered the league in 1994 the industry was a billion dollars Today is hovering around 10 billion and commissioner manford already said he wants to take it to 15

So the business as a whole is extremely healthy Yeah, so you get to texas Do you start reading your newspaper clippings like immediately? Like do you start reading the hate that comes at you like big cat was talking like The second you get there if you don't perform up to expectations immediately, you know, you have a bad day Somebody's going to write a column about you saying you don't deserve the contract Did you start reading those clippings like immediately? you know

No, not really because You know to dance point earlier if if it was today you had no choice because it'd be everywhere I mean you'd be even barred it with tweet and yeah, instagram and There was ways where if you wanted to kind of stay out of that lane you can kind of stay in the dark and not Read the local newspapers and If if if the folks at night weren't running that in the news then you can pretty much escape that Would you do that? I don't think you can do that today because I always I always think it's bullshit when someone's when an athlete's like

I don't listen to anything. I think there's I think there are athletes that are good at tuning it out But you're telling me like you can't you won't you know walk by a tv and you're on the headline or you turn on the car And you're someone's you know blabbing on the radio performance wise. There's not really much of a critique Yeah, that's true. That's true. So I think their their critique Um Pft came around my decision to go there There's some people thought it was disingenuous, right? Some people said that well, do you really want to win?

Why would you go there? But uh, I had my answers the teams weren't like, you know I think that's probably where because baseball's such a weird sport that you can be the best player in the game And your team can kind of suck Yeah, and that's kind of where I got nicked up pretty good They gave it to me pretty good, but it was never about performance I actually don't think that that's disingenuous to just be like I wanted to get paid a shitload of money And I got paid a lot of money on my skill. It's like that's the most Ingenuous right just disingenuous right to be like I want double kevin garnett. Yeah, which I believe you just said that earlier, right?

So that's a quote. That was a quote. Uh, I just has nothing to do with really anything But I always liked the sunglasses you wore in texas. Yeah, they were cool. The wraparounds. They were really cool. They were cool Yeah, they were well, what a memory. Did we bring those back? They were cool. Hobby by is kind of where similar one It's got like a little different color feel to it. How anybody's got a lot of swag. Oh, yeah, I'm a big fan I'm a big I call him the drip guy. Um, so you're in texas. Do you ever hang out with jerry jones? Do you ever go on his bus? Yeah What was his bus like his bus or his box his bus did you go on the on the cowboy's bus? No, I didn't go on the in the bus, but I went in the box

Okay, what was that like the box pretty cool pretty fancy like like how you expect for the cowboy's way Yeah, jerry's one of the smartest people I've ever met. He's uh Talk about a forward thinker and a guy that can see around corners And a guy that has just the biggest set of balls that I've ever seen. I mean the guy's just I love him. I admire him and what he's done for the NFL and for that franchise. It's been phenomenal. Yeah I mean, it's it's one of those guys. He's a polarizing figure, but you can't you can't say that he's not Like a forward thinker. He bought the cowboys and made them what they are number one franchise in the world 5 billion. Yeah, it's crazy. Um, all right. Let's let's he hired Jason Garrett eight years before he became good

Yeah, true true. Yeah, he saw that coming This is good though because I like going going chronologically So you end up at the Yankees, but before that happens you almost end up at the red sox and you You were telling me this and I think you've said this before but you had A deal like completely signed ready to go. Did you not I did and that deal was signed by myself and John Henry and by the commissioner at the time and We needed one more signature. You needed four signatures was

mine. John Henry owner of the red sox The players union and the owners, which is the commissioner's office. We missed one which is Don fear who was a great long term long time head of the union and Here's the irony of this whole thing. I was trying to give away Tens of millions of dollars In the union did not let me They didn't allow me because I was representing one of 750 players And I thought that was fair and they didn't want to set the wrong precedent and say well if alex gives up 40 million dollars

Then uh, you know PFT will and then dan will and then you know, can griffy will I hope to get to the point where I can give up 40 million But yeah, I tried and they let me so so What do you think the like your Walk us through what your career would have looked like if you had gone to the red sox. Do you think about that? Good question Uh, yeah, I thought about that for a long time um

You know certainly would have been different. I I think looking back The greatest thing that's ever happened to me professionally was becoming a Yankee And so much so that I doubled down when I was a free agent again, and I came back to the new york But as a red saga would have been, you know, I'm sure uh It would have been great and just a much different Vibe for sure. Yeah, what was it about boston that made you want to go there initially? I think I thought the rivalry of Yankees red sox was ripe Oh three was a year that they almost beat the red sox

They couldn't they lost that crazy game seven when Aaron boon walks off and extra endings of you know wakefield and uh I thought they they were just like one step short and I knew once I met with feel and jed The web scene We met here at the four seasons kind of underground. We kind of snuck in the hotel and at the time he was 28 and I was Around the same age We're both like 27 28. Jed same age is his long time. He's a gem now. Yeah

um And I saw the way these guys Thought and the way they think about kind of architecting the house and putting it all together And I go holy shit. These guys are really really smart I knew that we're going to win and win big So I kind of want to be a part of it at the time the Yankees weren't even part of the equation They have a great shortstop and jeter They won four championships over the last eight years or so

So I was like this is perfect. This creates kind of a magic bird scenario Great for baseball great for us both short stops Pretty cool. Which one were you magical bird? That's a good question. Well, I guess if I was in Boston Yeah, you'd be bird. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but then the airmen have to go to the mustache Aaron Boone gets hurt playing basketball, right? Yeah, which is like the craziest thing that this all like it basically worked out And then you end up on the Yankees Um, I think I've asked you this before but have you officially do you think you earned your pinstripes? Yes

100% 100 not even a flinch not even a flinch How long did it take you? To 2009 Yeah, yeah, oh that was a flinch Yeah That was a flinch Junker understand I mean, I think he will he just started okay, but he has not yet. Yeah, I think I think you do

I don't even know what the hell that means You know what it means Come on now. You know what it means Look, I think all these guys are having opportunities to be great Yankees I think if you ask the common fan out there who loves the Yankees forever Going back three generations. They usually want to see a championship. But who the hell am I to tell you? I mean, I think I won people listening may say you haven't earned shit Yeah, but that's that's me. But I gotta tell you going back to how the Yankee thing came about. Yeah, so

One so think about the momentum. We're negotiating for like several months My John Henry lives in bokeh. I live in Miami So we were having like these meetings at my house and coral gables at his house in in bokeh And we have all this momentum and this is like the biggest deal I've ever been a part of Even though the ranger thing there was an energy around the red socks much like the cubs is aura That I didn't experience in the previous two franchises And like boss is just on fire and they're like ready to have like this one extra piece to get them over the top I already knew they had Kurt Schilling in the back

And I knew that was an enormous piece because you piece them with pager martinis his game set match And here come now they say it's over Don fear won't budge. He won't sign it. You're going back to texas. I said, okay That was you know, I was bummed because I was really excited I put a lot of time in effort Two days later. I'm sitting down to collect my mvp and my gold glove award Not to New York. No. No humble humble humble. Let's go. Let's keep breaking and uh, and they made me the captain that day One hell yeah

And uh, did I say go go and I was getting and um I'm sitting next to brian cashman and out of it's odd I mean like why would I be sitting next to brian cashman? And you know at the front they have the podium and we have like 20 people up there He's in the first seat. I'm in the second seat And I'm not a big drinker, but I was kind of pretty depressed at the deal went south so quickly. Yeah, so, you know, it was one of these three hour long kind of boring dinners

And I'm the last one. So I am American League mvp for the fourth time Yes flex on them. So You know, of course inevitably brian cashman says man, what the fuck happened with that deal? What happened? How'd it go? I said cash, you have no idea man. That was I'm exhausted. I've been working this thing for two months It was long. It was hard. It was crazy kind of disappointed. It went down Now we're just drinking water and we're kind of I would say in the first or second end of the dinner

So he says to me Well, I mean that's kind of too bad, but I kind of like it I'm kind of glad that you didn't end up with the red sox And it kind of takes a pause and he says but If you're willing to move to third base Maybe we make your yankee now. He just he completely said that I think is a throwaway. I haven't asked cash

Is that temper tampering in retrospect? Yeah, that's okay I mean, they can't they can't That can't boy be real shame. So he said it kind of as a joke. Yeah And uh, it's a joke. I kind of just laughed at it and you know, then I order a cocktail. My drink is vodka with Little club soda, man. Yep. Watch your figure. I like that Yeah, yeah, something around drink some whiskey like a guy. So I'm not a I'm not a heavy drinker But after I had like my first one and a half pops I go back and say hey cash

Were you serious about that? Did you mean that a third base thing? And kind of, you know, a couple of pops in I'm like Well, you know what? If you're serious, maybe I'll give that some thought And then we started talking back and forth a little bit blah, blah, blah Before you know it, uh, two weeks later, uh, there's a big press conference and I'm a yankee there we go And so I I think one of the most I mean, obviously the 2009 season where you win the world series and you're the most clutch guy on the team Is you're defining yankee moments, but I always

Think of a rod and jeter in there like how you guys coexisted How would you describe your relationship with Derek jeter when you were yankee both like at the start and the finish Yeah, I thought look first of all going back. I I met jeter for the first time when I was 16 Uh at the university of Miami baseball game when he was down there for for a lot of dough prior to being in Tampa for spring training and he was playing, uh, I believe a low a ball And michigan the school that he signed to go to school with Was playing miami the school that I had just signed and I was a junior in high school And we sat down together for two hours and kind of just

Fell in love with the idea of what we were doing in the game and how we wanted to just come in and be young players and do really well and So that was kind of the start of it and from then from all the time from 16 probably to about you know 20 223 24 We were all very close. Then I came to new york in 2004 And you know the move was obviously complicated because I moved to third base and it was kind of a shocking thing It was a lot. You're a better shortstop than him. No, I'm not gonna say that

And then you know, I thought the the relationship like any brotherhood had some ups and some downs And but overall I think 09 we kind of cemented our legacy together as yankees And I just thought it was it was a very respectful relationship Do you ever get into a fight with them where you guys were screaming at each other? No, no I don't think either one of us are screaming guy. Right. I mean, I would assume jeter is not but Like I was because it's it must be hard being The highest paid player in baseball

There's four times four time mvp not to brag and then coming to the yankees and it's like that's jeter's team Yeah, so you have to now we always talk about it in the mba like who you know, there's only one ball Do you feel that pressure? Like I have to basically Be his robin even though I might be a better batman than him No, I mean, look, I I think a few things number one. I try to give away tens of millions of dollars to go to boston um And then I made Smaller concessions, but I made in some ways larger concessions to come to new york

So I've always been a team guy and I just led my actions lead not by telling you but by showing you look I can play point guard, but I can go play forward and If I you I'm a quarterback and whatever I just I just want to be part of a great organization with a great culture and I was just In awe of the yankee Their mystery their the mystique playing for george steinbrunner who recruited me to play here It was more about the yankee like aura

And being a part of something special And I felt like all of us. I think the three of us are the kind of you know people that Would make that move to to be part of something so great. So you get to new york I noticed that that when you got there you very quickly adopted the red socks yankees rivalry Like you took it to heart almost immediately when you got there What was that about were you trying to like show your teammates? Hey, I know I was close to You know to signing with this team, but now I'm with you guys You know we're in the same bunker together or was there like one incident in particular

Against the red socks that made you kind of flip that switch and you're like, okay. Fuck boston the The emotions were so high And it was such an almost get and I mean get for me being becoming red socks and for the red socks to acquire me it was like this All this foreplay all this teasing all this like you can taste it you can feel it you're edging They already had you know jerseys of me and I can feel it. I wanted to go play in that place

And all of a sudden boom Reporting a rod is not going to the red sox. He's staying with texas. That was like a fucking who's that was that steve levy? I don't know who that was But it was like this fucking big bus kill and I think the game felt it. I know I certainly felt that I was saddened by it Uh, I went out one night. There's a place called um life and I just got toasted drunk that night threw up I was so bummed Anyways, I went back home and just dust off I said, okay Let's go gotta go play ball and of course that the Yankee thing happened

But I think because of that When I go to Fenway for the first time as a Yankee, I mean come on There's nothing could be like meaner or more cruel Uh, and so I think that's where the motion started. Yeah, okay Do you believe in the clutch gene and how did you go from unclutch to clutch? Oh, do I yeah, I mean, I think I think um clutch gene another way of saying is I believe in There's some people out there that have a slower heartbeat in big moments. Mm-hmm

Um, no one better than Andy pettit and mariana Rivera in my lifetime as an athlete Um, Bernie Williams was another fantastic one Derek had a very slow heartbeat Um, how did you get that though? Because you were you know, the narrative was a rod can't get it done in the big moment He's on he's not clutch and then you become, you know 2009 hit big hit after big hit. Yeah, I think you you look Honestly, I don't think you can drive in 2000 runs in the major leagues and not have A clutch gene great answer. But thank you another humble brag. Yes But I do think that in new york that year in 2009 The big press conference I had in spring training about, you know, the whole

Crazy stuff the suspension about pds and all that stuff That and then I had a major hip surgery Which all I knew was hip surgery was synonymous with bull Jackson right and that scared the crap out of me So when I came back from colorado And we had this great team in the new stadium I felt like I was playing with the houses money And literally I felt no pressure and I just went out and had fun I remember driving uh from my upper east side apartment, uh upper west side apartment at the time

And I remember driving through kind of washington heights in the Bronx And I just remember in the postseason saying if I can just do one thing in today's game to help us win I'll be very happy and and that thought process Really helped me streamline my thoughts. Did you notice any difference between kind of how your teammates reacted to you? Once you started getting those big hits like especially in the postseason as opposed to before was there like was there a change in that locker room? Uh, there's certainly uh just A lot of great energy right and I think people just appreciate it. There's nothing that bonds you in life more than

Winning a championship together, especially in new york, and it's funny. We were up three zero against the red sox in the alcs in 2004 And I always feel I think that really god does things for a reason right and it was a blessing in disguise Because growing up watching dam marina in miami and really admiring people like charles barkley people who Were the best of the best but just came a little bit short And it was interesting before 2009. I'm at a charity event and I ended up spending some time with john elway And john elway says to me. Hey, I know exactly what you're going through You know i'm 14 years into the big leagues now and we have not won and I have not done

Well at least as a Yankee in the postseason I had good moments, and then I had not so good moments And he says listen. I played 20 years 19th and 20th I won a championship both years and everything's forgotten. All you need is one Yeah, just go out and have fun and then you become clutch and then you become clutch That's my favorite part of the sports debate. It's like all you didn't have it and then one one post season It's like oh, yeah, he's always been clutch. Yeah, you can go that. Yeah, so I want to go real quick back to that Series against the red sox 2004. We always hear about from you know

You know many Ramirez and Kurt Schilling and and kevin all are their side of it At what point were you guys like oh shit? We're fucked I never felt like we were fucked until I saw john olerud in the in the sitting on the table And he broke his foot. He broke a small bone in his foot. Yeah, it's a serious injury It was a serious injury and I realized the margin of error Between two teams is so minute And he was a guy that never struck out that always put the ball in play

Uh war batting helmet while playing first base. I mean what a stud kind of a weird move one of the best best He had to though players. Yeah, I get that annie was going back to washington state and just a phenomenal guy steady eddy and on a second tell you he's one of the best Three or four baseball players that I've ever played as a teammate. Of course. I had him in seattle So, um, did dirt year try to give a speech or anything when you guys were down when when the red sox were coming back Who gave the who gave the raw rock guys? Let's not let this happen moment. Yeah, I think it would be tori Yeah, tori skipper. Yeah, so it wasn't his best speech, obviously

Well, I would blame him one So game game seven starts was a daemon hits that uh the home run in the first Yeah, at that point Did the air kind of go out of the dugout? Would you like not that home run, but the one that really stung Was the grand slam. Mm-hmm by johnny daemon. I believe that same game. Yeah, I was there for that Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was smoking a cigar. I wanted to throw up when he hit that home I was first pitch fastball. Havey vasquez coming out of the bullpen and boom when he hit it. I go

Fuck that sucks. So, um jumping back. I think it was earlier that season But the uh the scrap you got into with with tech with very tech I don't think you get enough credit for not letting him take you down because like he had he had leverage on you He was low. Stop stop trying to suck up. No, I'm just I'm buttering him up so I can ask him the tough question later Um, why don't you punch him in the face? We had a mask on yeah, so Yeah, winner for net punch. Yeah Do you think he still hates you?

I mean that clip after after the world series when he was You I've you saw your face. You saw it in the moment. You know what? I know personally. I don't I don't hate anyone. I let bygones be bygones You have to ask him but I will tell you this that I have uh the utmost respect for for him and the entire red sock organization. Yeah, he definitely that that answer was yes That's okay. I got it for you boss. Um, you know that that was just paint on Kurt Schilling's sock, right? It wasn't it was a real blood. Doug Mirabelli said that I didn't know that I did on a broadcast Really? I'm not joking. He did and then it was an Orioles broadcast

And then like it became a big news story and then he walked it back later And he was like no no it wasn't but he did say it was like for marketing to play it up Which I would I would not put that past Kurt knowing what we know about Kurt now But I do believe he had like actual surgery. Yeah, I'll tell you what you can say whatever you want about Kurt Schilling Here's what I know Is he and Pedro Martinez? Are the best two pitchers that I've ever faced in the major leagues Now Pedro 1999 Pedro saw young where he was unhittable

And Schilling in 2001 in the world series. He had some of the greatest stuff I've ever seen. I mean 99 to 100 with pinpoint control Over 300 strikeouts less than 20 walks Split, I mean he fast bus split nor he was the total total package Okay, so game six of that uh that series against the red socks Um, have you ever apologized to the game of baseball for slapping bronson arroyo? Yeah, I have apologized to Everyone in my career to the game at this point. Yes, it was a good move. It was a good Do what you got. It was worth the try. How's that? Yeah, I mean it was low. It was low risk. Yeah, it also, you know

I mean, yeah, so there's like a billion replays and there's cameras everywhere Maybe they were off for that moment. You got to take that risk. It took a lot of courage um for those umpires To turn that call over in front of 56 000 people. Yeah, that's true. They were screaming now I was trying to go for his glove And arroyo is a very good athlete. He got off the mound very quickly He's trying to go for his glove And the karate chop went a little bit too far and I got his forearm. Well, and there's

That moment was so like Instincts of anyone who's ever played any sport like if shit starts to go wrong Like just try to just like change the rules Just play a different sport and see if it works out. It's bronce. We're playing we're playing football now I don't I want a rugby. Yeah, right. Like I don't care like if if everything starts to go wrong Just you're you're like inner competitor flips and you're like, yeah, we're not playing this game anymore We're playing a totally different set of rules. I don't want a victim blame, but bronce and arroyo. I mean like have you seen the guy? Yeah, I don't I deserved a karate chop. Yeah, he did. Um, all right. Let's do some let's do some uh fun moments

Let's let's do like a let's laugh it at ourselves moments here Because people are gonna when we do all these interviews people always like, why don't you ask us? Why don't you ask that? Uh, the picture of you in central park getting the massage. I loved it. Well, actually that wasn't uh There was a picture in center park, but it wasn't a massage the massage was a skit that we did from uh, David Letterman Okay, and it was kind of making fun of the year before me being taken a sense and so I'm with my wife She's she's at the time. She's kind of has Natasha I'm like, dude. I'm from Miami. I'm pale as hell. I had my frost. I was I thought I was really cool I see a rock. What do you do when you're a rock? You're from Miami take your shirt off and get some sun

Yeah, I had I had all the paparazzi's all over me. Okay. All right that one place I like that. Um, I actually so we do this with a lot of guests. It's called uh questions from a first grader Okay, so this comes from mrs. Joyce's first grade class Um, timmy wants to know um, do you really have a painting of yourself as a minotaur? I I I don't Never have but I think I almost have to buy one because it's almost like a fact. I'll buy one. Yeah, we can get one made I don't want to mess up like the myth. That's a great story. Okay. What about the um, photo shoot when you're kissing yourself That was uh, that was a moment. Yeah, that was a moment in time Yeah, that was a moment in time and my god was that stupid and my god. Do I cringe?

I'm scared of mirrors. I don't even want to see mirrors anymore What happens in that moment where like was just Was a photographer like era. Oh alex do it for me. You're killing it. Oh, wow alex like, you know Yeah, all of all of the above. So it was steven kline who's a very famous photographer. It was a fashion Um magazine shoot. It wasn't a sports magazine And I was fucking tired. It was like an eight hour shoot. I'm like, dude I want to go ahead of baseball or something And why am I here when this photo shoot is not what I do? I hate

So he's like we're like down to like the eighth and ninth inning I'm in fumes and probably like want to go home. So he goes Like anything he would tell me I would have said, yeah, let's just do it. Is this the last one? He goes, yeah, so you're close to the mirror. So Yeah, just like get right up to the mirror. I don't think he said a kiss the mirror just get like So you get this double and I'm thinking this must be like an artistic really cool shot Oh, it is and of course I got next to the mirror and you know, the rest is We should actually recreate that. Yeah, we actually should for the promo

I would love that. Yeah, we will just with no mirror and just you two kissing. Yes. Yeah, I like that Okay, this comes from uh from joney in the same the very same class. They're a very inquisitive bunch, I guess Um, so I saw you doing color commentary on your very first baseball game ever and your game notes said On the picture birth control baby pull out stuff Is this some type of new sabre matrix? All right, joney, um, that's called Covering the four bases All right, did that help you with your with your first game?

Uh, yeah, it did. It kind of tuned me up a little bit. I'll say this It got the uh discussion about you going and people were like a rod's funny now. Yes. I like it. Yeah. Yeah, I agree I think that makes me funny. I'm I'm game for being safe always being safe. Oh, that's that's the biggest thing Uh Big poppy said that you bring your own meal to restaurants. I did What was that? Uh, it would be like chicken and asparagus. It was fucking All right. Yeah, I mean you eat clean. I've I've had lunch with you and it's um

No offense, but like a couple french fries wouldn't kill you You in ketosis Am I way in ketosis? It's if you're a real like fit guy. No, no, no, you know about it. You probably wouldn't yeah But so you do you have done that? Yes, I have. Yes. Okay poppy is accurate with the story What about that story about uh, you putting having someone put toothpaste on your toothbrush? That's not sure But it would be a ball or move Whoever wrote that was trying to be like gotcha And I just read it was like holy shit

If I ever get to the point where someone's putting toothpaste on my toothbrush like I'm the king of the world That would be sick. Yeah But like if I would to do that now I would probably video it and instantly put it on instagram So everyone knew how cool I was actually okay. I think I think I think I think I think we should actually act Yeah, no, we're good. We're going to I've actually just thought about that. I'll take my shirt off. You can massage me Next question you went to leo's birthday party. How was that? Was that like was that like a wolf of wall street like the plane scene? No, I don't think it was like wolf of wall street It was just a cool party. Yeah. Yeah leo always throws great parties. What's he like as a person? He's awesome. He's he's dope

Yeah, yeah Yeah, the party the party was lit. Yeah I have a 14 year old dog. I'm finding all these cool turns. We're we're we're cool. We got this. We got this Uh, did you ever do sleepovers with jeter? Uh, yeah. Yeah. What was that like? It was fun It was fun. Would you guys like just stay up and watch movies or what what's I mean? I don't want to sleep over in when I was 12 years old looks look like I don't know what to sleep over for Alex Rodriguez and Derek jeter looks like it was fun, but we were like in our early 20s So that doesn't count popcorn like movie

Uh, no, no, did you give you like a gift basket with autographed baseballs when you left? Was that like waiting for you in the car? You know what? We used to go to this place called cronies in the upper east side They had the best wings Okay, so the night always started there. Okay, and then you know back in the day It was like I don't know if you guys remember was like life or you guys, you know from new york life and and and live and China club all these I mean i'm going back to the 90s. Mm-hmm, but it was fun. Okay. I mean, that's yeah, it's I can't imagine I mean like I said, I don't think you guys were like sitting around being like what's on netflix

Uh a little different. All right, uh serious question here. Are you hallfamer? Mm-hmm. Great question because we got to bring up obviously, you know the suspension and all that stuff Do you I love to bring everything up? I love this open conversation Um, look, I I really hope and wish that I I get in But ultimately that's not my decision But I do I do think That I have a great opportunity. I just came back from london And I was there to announce

and promote The yankees playing the rec stocks there next next summer And the fact that you know, I'm doing that for the league and for rob manford In some ways that that's kind of like a hall of fame move for me because You know, then I have an opportunity to go back to all the youngsters and To a degree be a mentor And let them know here are all the ways that I fucked up

If you can avoid one or two of these then that's that's a hall of fame move for me again What would you I like it I like it too I think what people kind of held against pete rose for the longest time is he was never like open truthful never like He didn't ever step out in any communities and be like hey kids Don't gamble on baseball games that you're managing like you didn't pass that tip along to anybody But you do have an opportunity to like talk to people if you were to talk to a kid right now What would you tell them about like, you know, uh performance enhancing drugs things like that? How would how would you tell them to like, you know be able to turn that down in a in a system that

Really does reward you sometimes for using and getting away with it. Yeah, so great question pft I think for one I will tell them you don't need that crap Okay, that's one number two is you know surround yourself with great people on and off the field because ultimately you're an average of the five people that you hang out with most And ultimately you have this great opportunity and there's life after baseball like it's not just a sprint You really it's hard to understand. There's a marathon when you're early 20s And it's just not worth it

It's it's better to kind of lean into it and do everything the right way if i'm playing devil's advocate though At some point it almost does become worth it if you know if you're pulling in a 250 million dollar contract It's like you know what listen I may have done some things that were technically against the rules at the time At the end of the day, I've got you know a bigger bank account than 99.999 percent of the world And i'm living my best life right now. So like how do you impart to somebody like okay? Yeah, it's a tough decision to make It can be very rewarding But like instilling that type of okay. Here's a here's a moral decision that you have to make

How do you even do that the thing i'm most proud of in my career? has been the arc of having my best two years at 19 and at 40 And what that told me and on top of that you put being the number one pick in the country in 1993 as a 17 year one one Is what we call one one? All that tells me that arc kind of those pillars at the end is that obviously I didn't need anything

And it's my message to them that they don't need it either right well It sucks that I wasn't part of your team back then because I wouldn't give you my piss like no questions I would have been the cleanest guy in the world Yeah, there would have been like a sir you need to immediately get on insulin. Yeah, besides that you're looking good Yeah, you've got to lose your left foot if you keep eating candy bars um When you rewatched the katie cure interview. Did you re like oh fuck? Yeah, I I you I remember It was a bad moment for the corp

But it was bad your lip and you looked up to the left which are like the two biggest telltale online science You know dan it's one of these things right and I came straight out of high school Straight out of prom a few months later. I was at Fenway Park at 18 years old facing Roger Clemens And I'm like what the fuck am I doing here? You know, I'm just a humble kid from Miami that came from nothing Right, uh, we don't even own a house. We had to rent an apartment and You know, I saw my mom a struggle and in many ways and I'm by no means making an excuse for myself Is I was not ready for everything that had to come my way and that comes with dealing with big media That's dealing with these type of options and at the end of the day. I made a bunch of mistakes

And I own all of them and if that cost me the hall of fame then I have no one to blame but myself With that said When I look at those moments with katie the the lesson is for for the youngsters kind of the front of the next generation They're listening is that if you're a vulnerable and you put yourself in a position where you're not solid Then you're gonna have moments like that The reason why I love talking to you guys now is because we can have fun with these things because

I've done what I've done I've paid an enormous penalty the largest penalty of any player that's ever played this game 162 game suspension With over 30 million dollars in fines And now I get to come back and I get to go to london and I get to promote the game the game that I love I get another second chance and I'm so grateful and fortunate for that But players do not need to get involved with any of that shit now Listen that soundbite where you said like I have no one to blame but myself That could be the soundbite that gets you in to the hall of fame right there. And if that's the case

Obviously, you need to put the beak a little bit on this side Let maybe just let us do your intro speech or just a bunch of autograph pft. You keep all this great work Up. I'm gonna fire dan and hire you No, that's fine. No, it's totally fine. Listen big cat gets 99 percent of his corp ideas for me. Anyways, that's not funny That's also so I'm basically like his intern that he uses takes all my stuff and takes credit for he uses you do not Yes, no, I cry join the court. We're gonna under come before I the corp is there's a lot of dead weight around I've seen that and I'd like to clean it up. You don't join the corp

The corp is born inside of you. I was always a corp guy I just didn't know it till I saw you taking a picture at like two in the morning With your computer off signing a bunch of baseball, you know, katie kerg was a moment. That was another moment Yes, I just thought you were like that. I was like that guy I don't know what he's doing. That's my level. Yeah, I'm in just sign me up right now I don't even need a salary. I haven't gotten paid. I love your tweets I think you're one of the most clever human beings on tweets. Oh, thank you I'm an amateur but one of the tweets that I think I love the most was when you said

When a rock goes public, I want to buy the first stock or something that really inspired me Yeah, as a ceo to go out and hire great people and shortly after you joined and not pay him Yeah, just don't let big get down. I just enlisted. I just joined the army for What are you doing? Yeah, do you have like a recruitment officer that just I get people to say you're that guy? Yeah, okay, we got to go hang out at the malls and try yeah, we got some names Okay, we're wrapping up here the ckeek question put in promo code take you get ten dollars off your ckeek purchase um

I want you I know what we do at a rod corp I want you to explain it to pft because he's not a businessman. He doesn't understand what we do I know what you think we he doesn't get it. Yeah, so You know the corp is a big deal. It's a big deal big deal around, you know, Chicago or on other ivy league schools You know, we do a lot of heavy recruiting stage. Yeah. Yeah name dropping So one of the things we wanted to do is create an environment where we can have obviously is proven that I cannot control Dan cats by myself So we wanted to kind of create this board of advisors kind of

big kind of blue chip People to come in and join our show and tell us about kind of their lessons about not just sports Is life is business Is you know the ups and downs like I've talked about all the you know crazy things I've been through I think really that's what we're trying to capture and at the end of the day. We want two things we want Cash checks people to give money to dan and then the day that's kind of our big thing He asks everybody for money and is a little uncomfortable and then and then two We want to

Hopefully rub some of his like great wisdom To dan so he can actually become an employee that actually just rub it. Yeah All right, this guy right So your biggest challenge in life is taking this guy and turning him into something that resembles a success Yeah, it's like it's like she's all that right and you're freddie prince jr. And he's rachel lee cook We we've tried to take this guy from michigan avenue to madison avenue And it's been a challenge But uh, you know one of the things I want him to do because i'm not happy with

The education or the business acumen. We've come to find out Yeah, the pnls are like making a lot of mistakes. It's just a lot of things So he's gonna try again. It's columbia business school here and see if he can If he doesn't understand what I know, I know exactly what Listen, I've read all I've read all he's got bookies. What do you mean? You have to know what I know what this stuff means So the corp go subscribe to it You can like I said, we have actually the first episode

We're gonna release them all at the same time, but there's an episode of alex and I talking about post Playing and then two today and then we have interviews with I think six six or seven Really either successful people in business successful people in media sports Whatever trying to figure out what makes them successful And then me asking them for money. Well, I've always here. V actually gave me money Michael rubin threw like I don't know probably three thousand dollars cash on the table and I felt too bad to take it I really regret not taking that money now that I oh, you know

I probably have a couple hundred dollars. Okay, that works walking around money. I mean, you always need money for a pizza just in case Oh, yeah, the 200 pizza But I will say this look it is Madison Avenue, but um, you know Whether it's, you know, Kobe Bryant or or or Mike Frances or Barry Sternlett I know these guys intimately and and and and these women they're they're great people And I've known them really well, but again name dropping flash Is I learned something in every single one of these interviews That I've never heard before so as a listener

You're not gonna believe some of the lessons some of the admissions some of the funny moments Especially them having to say no to Dan about money That's actually a great idea for a podcast is to like have somebody team up with big cat and then ask questions and get celebrities Like reveal answers about themselves. It would be successful. That sounds like a really good idea. You came up with a one Thank you. Thank you. And one of the segments we're kind of launching season two is um, We're aggressive Dan cat's shark tank pitch. Yeah. So we tried that a few times. You'll be very Interested to hear what dan comes up with. It's really just me asking

Okay, that's good. Yeah, it's and it worked once Real quick before we before we call this a day. Uh, I saw on instagram. You're practicing your shark face Yeah, yeah, so what what is the shark face and what goes through your head? Actually, just give the camera an example real quick of the shark face First I'm trying to be as ugly as mr. Wonderful so that I'm there. You could never be Okay. Yep. Um, that's it. And what was your question? What goes through your head? Like, why do you get into a shark face? Yeah, it's kind of when you're focused and you kind of want to

You don't have a lot of time to basically make an appraisal on this entrepreneur So you kind of just focus in like it's like a game face. You know, that's what it is Game face. Okay. You don't want to show weakness in front of the other sharks. Yeah, but I like your glasses So I think for next season, I'm gonna take your glasses. They're like a poker player. Yeah Well, there you go. You can do like the poker player that had the uh, he had the dinosaur glasses the holograms on the front Yeah, he won the no, that was a different guy. He won the world series of poker with the dinoman I think they called him the dinoman. Yeah, bring those back. Forget the The Javi Baez wraparounds that you wore in texas bring back the dinosaur sunglasses. Yeah, can I see those real quick?

Yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan of them. So I think where's the camera? I'm gonna look at this camera I got you. I got you. Let's say um Okay, are you ready camera? Yeah, here's my offer My offer is $500,000 for 40 percent of your business And I'm gonna give you another $200,000 in preferred equity at eight percent I accept deal. That's my final offer. I think that was an offer to us. Yes. Yeah, we accept that's binding legally

But I think the glasses the thing that I'm missing. Yeah, I like it. I like it's the deal with it It's your your your own meme or it's the um, what is that the csi when david caruso puts it on? So here's what you do. You go, I'll give you $500,000 in business jargon business jargon that I don't really understand And then you do the scream from the who they And then just we'll get pulled again. What's going on now? I like it. Yeah, okay Uh, okay. Good talk. Thank you, alex appreciate it and everyone go subscribe to the corp We're gonna drop all the episodes so you can listen to them over christmas break whenever you want to listen to them And uh, yeah, and then tweet back at us. Let us know what you think. Oh, yeah, and also let us know who you want to hear

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It is a netflix binge watching. There'll just be six episodes seven episodes that drop tomorrow You can listen to them whenever and uh, we'll do another season in a few months I just think it's a brilliant idea on a rod's part like team up a big cat with two podcast I don't think you got it when you said that I don't think you think you did no Yeah, because I said that after I was like, I don't think you got that joy. I mean, it's a brilliant idea Oh, man, uh, but yeah, so so We know he was so funny when he was like, yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, I should do that. Uh, okay, never mind Um, but yeah

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I didn't realize I was walking around and I just looked to my right and kobe was getting he's completely bald And he had a barber just shaving his head for him It was the most power move I've ever seen that is pretty cool Oh, man, and we also have some more stories because we've spent the entire afternoon at jaylo's house We have a video coming out for that. Uh, all right, let's get to our segments. Oh and one other announcement I was gonna do a seeing red. I'm not gonna do a seeing red if you want to do see a seeing red in person I'm going uh to chicago on thursday and the red line radio boys. We're doing a live podcast from a supermarket. Okay Also, it's it's the uh annual jags titans color rush on thursday night

Blake better get in like Blake better get in better get in but if he doesn't get in this would be the perfect gift from the NFL Here's a thursday night for you to spend with your family not watching. Yes, exactly Just randomly be like hey, I'm free this thursday. Yeah, but also have thought you were never free thursday have text alerts set up for In case Blake gets in. Yeah. All right. Uh, first up. We have Mike greenberg's dumb rules So the NFL has said that they were going to change the punt rules and they crowdsourced it Well, they're saying they're going to crowdsource the ideas for for changing the punt game. Okay. I think it's a weak play

Um, I don't disagree with them on that But so yeah, they just want ideas from everybody. So Okay, I had an idea. Yeah, if you should have a guy who's over 300 pounds punning the ball And if they can pun it into the end zone, it's worth two points. No matter where you are on the field I like that. Okay, so then you just get well I was going to say you get off into linemen punning But what would probably happen would be you just get a punner and then just get them really fat Yeah, and that'd be cool to watch too. Yeah. Yeah, or you get like a really fat like australian rules rugby guy

Yeah, well, the osse rules guys are all skinny. Oh, they are. Yeah, well one fat guy from there Yeah, it's got to be one the guy that came over and joined the eagles was a rugby player. Yeah, there we go Um, I had an idea and this probably goes against the whole like player safety thing But what if we made puns? Full contact the whole time and if you caught the punt you get three points And the ball so you can tackle the guy In like there's there'll be no we'll say no fumbles So it's not like you can tackle the guy and then pick up the ball

The the kicking team you can just light them up. You can just light them up It's like a challenge from double there It sounds like yeah, so then you also have to decide like should we put like four punt returners back there And then those guys get to run free and it's just collisions everywhere. I like that too probably against player safety Also, you can light the punner up. Yes after he punts it. Awesome. Yeah. How about that? Um, what do you if you down the punt inside the two yard line? Let's say Then the opposing team has to run two consecutive pass plays Out of their end zone with mark sancas with mark sancas with mark sancas or dan olavsky dan olavsky

Yeah, all-time quarterback. I like that Hank you got any punt rules They should give it to the player on their team or whoever The punner can use their opposite hand. So whoever on your team has you punt with your foot the strongest Yeah, I'm saying it would be a throw. Oh, and it'd be whoever on the team has the best opposite hand I like that as instead of a punt. Yes to avoid hang time and but you can punt Way further than you can throw right. That's the point. Okay. Here's another thing. Here's it So if we want to do no full contact, excuse wait, I'm can't can you run that back? I want I want to get it Accuracy and you can throw a ball 60 yards. Yeah, but with your offhand. You can yeah, but puns exactly

But the thing is puns that go 60 yards really go like 71 yards because the punter staying way behind I think you're just talking about rex gross when throwing deep interceptions Which is cool. Bring back rex the arm pun. We're trying to create dumb rules. All right. Yeah. Yeah is a player using their Hand to throw. Okay. Very good. I was just trying to understand. I wasn't I wasn't saying it was bad I was just you're right. I understand here's so if we want to go player safety you punt, okay And the you basically the the other the opposing team the receiving team can treat it like a volleyball And they can score a touchdown, but they can't possess the ball But they can hit it to each other all the way down the field and you can you can knock it out

No, you can knock the ball out of the air, but you can't interfere with the bodies. I like that. I got a better one Okay, pun it the receiver isn't allowed to catch it They can only kick it in the air and wherever it lands back That's good egg. That is good. That's really good So then you can get like messy and and rinaldo in the games Yeah, and if you miss out of the air and if you miss you could be fucked. Is that a rouge? Oh, I like that a lot. That's like very similar to the cfo rules. I like that. Yeah, I like that a lot What about it? What about if they're holding a big bucket

And it's filled with beers and you have to chug a beer and then you can catch the punt with the bucket So the minute the the the snap right before the snap it goes whistle Whoa, uh whistle And chug beer and then you got to catch it in the bucket and you can run with the bucket You guys are gonna say that this sounds stupid and there's no practical way to make it work I would never say that but give the punner a knife that also works. And so he just goes hunting. Yeah Like he you he's no he's a dangerous guy and he's not allowed to use a knife on anybody except the returner One all right one one change that rule. It's

Someone has a knife. You don't know who Just anyone miss three knife. Yeah, mystery knife. Don't have to declare the knife. Yeah, it's always going to be vantes perfect Yeah, okay. Let's uh move on. We got hurt or injured marquel fault. So marquel fault has been diagnosed with Neurogenic thoracic Outlet syndrome very proud of myself for getting that a physical injury TOS affects nerves between the neck and shoulder resulting in abnormal functional movement and a range of motion thus severely Shoot a basketball What the fuck? Well, so yeah, that was a little typo by wodes there. I think yeah a little air in the cut and paste

Wow from the note section, but what so he's basically your spaz Yeah, that's the medical term is is marquel fault is a spaz his arms asleep He's like dropping textbooks all over the hallway and he's in love with lark for he's he's slept on his shoulder in his arm And now it's numb and dead permanently permanently to a permanent extent. Yeah, I don't know what to think of marquel fault anymore I feel bad for him. I genuinely feel bad. I feel better for him if this is the problem I feel bad for him if it's all in his head If this is the issue then you can at least treat it. Do you know how you treat this? What? The cure is to potentially just remove one of his ribs like a top like Marilyn Manson. Yeah

Yeah, so he's going to be able to self suck like shout out steve bannon. Mm-hmm He he just walked around sucking his own dick the whole time neuro neurogenic thoracic Outlet syndrome that sounds like a diagnosis that you have to go see many doctors to get yeah, like hey Uh, it's in your head. It's in your head. It's in your head And then the last one you walk in and the the doctor's in a huge lab coat smoking a cigarette. He's like, oh I know what this is. It's just to us. Yeah, that's just house. He dusts off an old textbook That's like the medicine has been from the 1960s. Yeah, you have to get to house before they guess that one. Yeah Either that or if it's the if you go to a doctor and the first thing they diagnose you with it's to us

You can bet your ass that doctor has like $700,000 to us curing disease machine in his back room and that's like his special He's walking around just identifying every oh you got to you got to look that guy tripped on the sidewalk He's probably got leg to us big time that guy tried to recover a punt and then got stabbed to us. Oh, I knutted too early Yeah, I got to us in my dick. Yeah, skied on the wall TOS no my problem. Uh, all right. Let's uh, let's go to guys on chicks All right, what do you say? We what do you say we do a speed round again, huh? Oh, I don't like the speed rounds By the way real quick speaking of nerves and nervous and marquel folds and speed round

Do you remember the last time we did a speed round when you talked about the girl with the nipple ring? And the nerves that came out. Well, I'm here to tell you I'm pretty woke. I don't think that actually happened I don't think it happened because if you take that out Here's why if you're taking a nipple ring out of your nipple ring, I don't I actually don't want to talk First time I read that I didn't understand what I was reading. So it wasn't that bad and then you don't take out Who takes out scissors to cut their own nipple? No, don't do this. All right. We're gonna start with a quick. Whoa I'm low for you guys. The word slang is slang for short language. Uh, all right First guys wait slow. Hey, pimp. What's up? What do you do if your dog walks in you having sex freeze stop switch their style?

Do anything. Yeah, you wink at it. You think a dog's never seen sex before Dogs hump. That's what they do. Your dog's probably very proud of you if it sees you humping Stella actually humps like dogs all the time at the park and it's like you got nothing to hump with Yeah, but she loves to hump. She's humped me before. Yeah, she's a she's a humper So a lover not a fighter I actually think it's healthy for your dog to see you humping because it reinforces that you're an alpha And that like if they see you having sex, they're like, I need to respect this person more That's just how the animal kingdom works. That's true. Sup boys, especially pft

Do you feel intimidated by a girl who works out more than you? I'm a Pilates instructor and triathlete and I feel like guys get turned off when they find out I think there'll be every girl ever for me. This girl just wanted to write in to tell us that she works out Yeah, um, not possible for me. Yeah For me, it's uh, every woman that's ever walked the earth. So you do feel you do feel intimidated. Yeah 100% Yeah, I pretend that I don't feel intimidated but secretly deep down. I am absolutely terrified of you Yeah, if pft sees a girl who's works out more, he just spontaneously starts doing squats in place

Yeah, that's exactly what happens. So it's not like if a strong dude walks into the room. I don't use that as motivation Yeah, yeah, I do something like ridiculous But if a like his leg if an in in shape girl walks in the room, I'm like, I gotta start Yeah, hit squad hit that squad machine get thick as hell. What a pft and other pmt boys I'm a Korean girl dating a white guy. I recently discovered that he's unironically into Korean pop music. He watches music videos and everything. How can I tell if he's really into me or if I'm just part of some weird fetish? I think is you you might be part of a fetish, but that's okay. It's fine. Yeah fetishes love. It's rooted in love Yeah, love is love deep love. I'm not here to judge that. Yeah

Wouldn't you want to be part of a fetish because then it's like he'll never get sick of me You got to flip it on him. You got to get into like white male culture Yeah, and then act like you have a fetish towards that like start I don't know uh going to barstool sports. You're gonna. Yeah start reading barstool Uh, we already listened to part of my take. So that's you got one step up You're good. Um start playing a lot of golf. Yeah start listening to buy a vest Talking about the persecution of your own culture Yeah, white male culture start listening to a lot of sublime. Yeah, Dave Matthews. Yeah, just call Dave puka puka shell

Maybe the shark tooth frost your tips frost those tips cargo shorts Do men look at girls i g's of them half naked and think now here's a girl I can take home to the family shouldn't half naked or full naked pictures be kept private Or is this the opposite of what most awful feminist preach? Okay, so, um You're writing in because you don't want to take half naked pictures and that's okay. You don't have to But don't bash other people who want to um sex positive. We are sex positive guys don't look at instagram pictures to fantasize about be careful here I do guys look at girls instagram pictures to fantasize about bringing them home to their family

I absolutely do I I look at instagram pictures and I read the captions And I try to tell which girls are the smartest and I respect them for the witticisms in their brains Mm-hmm facts. Mm-hmm. I don't even look at the pictures. I read instagram for the articles I just scroll and double tap. I double tap everything. Yeah, all right last one Sup boys my boyfriend has been trying to grow a beard for a while, but it just doesn't look good What is the big hype about guys and beards? Also? How do I tell him nicely he needs to shave? You want to take this pft? Well, yeah, no, thanks big cap I was going to this girl is right on the money. What is the big deal about guys and beards?

Yeah, unnecessarily. They're just trying to cover up a less attractive face Yeah, more more just go with a chin strap that looks really awkward really well I'm not wearing my chin strap anymore. I decided not to do that Mutton chops mutton chops season you got mutton chops. I got what sideburns check it out It looked like I'm in real good shape too. This is goatee. That's that's not a goatee You're right. It's a womb broom, baby Um, no this girl's got a good head on her shoulders. I agree. All right guys, what are you trying to hide? Okay, listen if if guys were supposed to have beards then God wouldn't have invented the five or six blade razor

You know, it's really cool a neared a neck beard. I'm kind of got the neared going. Yes. It's super cool It is and your luck. Hank's got the real guy here. Hank's got the only one that mine doesn't fill in all the way It's Hank. It's you know The real hype of the beard is that when you shave your beard and then just because you want to shave it And then you come into work and people like what the fuck? Yeah, what'd you do to your face? Yeah? That's never fun Yeah, I've you know what I've got. I don't have a beard. I've got um like a belly beard now from like my belly button down Yeah, I just grew a beard on my stomach somehow. Yeah, that's okay I I just have a beard now because I'm gotten very very very out of shape and I keep telling myself

I can't wait till I get in shape then shape my beard and everyone would be like, whoa You look so in shape, but I haven't done step one I mean if if I grew a beard it would just be unfair. Yeah, you can't have everything true and you got your sweet goatee Yeah, so you're you're set. All right. That's our show We'll see everyone on friday and thank you again for making us the number one sports podcast in 2018 Go let's look. I love you guys I don't know what Oh

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