Pardon My Take - Baker Mayfield & Alex Caruso, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, Scottie Scheffler Dominates The Open + Mt Rushmore Of Best Bad Movies

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Scottie Scheffler wins again and his dominating year continues. The Open was such a snooze fest that we resorted to Tiger vs Scottie debates and people forget how awesome Tiger was (00:00:00-00:24:29). WNBA created noise with some t-shirts (00:24:29-00:30:27). National sports podcast talking baseball (00:30:27-00:36:37). Hurt or Injured Justin Herbert for his red contacts (00:36:37-00:42:00). Who's back of the week including Hank's UFC recap, Coldplay and understanding the NFLPA mess that Pablo Torre and Mike Florio uncovered (00:42:00-01:06:31). Mt Rushmore of best bad movies (01:06:31-01:30:39). Alex Caruso and Baker Mayfield join the show to talk ball, Caruso winning a Title, Baker finding the chip on his shoulder after his hater list has grown so small, their mutual hate for University of Texas and more (01:30:39-01:59:15). MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred joins the show to talk about the successful All Star Break, competitive balance in the league, should their be an age restriction on the HR Derby, dumb rules and more (01:59:15-02:27:44). We finish with lottery ball numbers (02:27:4-02:31:22).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have two great interviews. We have our good friends, Alex Crusoe and Baker Mayfield together. That is something we do chill week now. It's a chill week tradition. We get an NBA player and a NFL quarterback. Last year we did Josh Allen and our good friend Blake Griffin, who is officially five time Blake of the year. This year it's Alex Caruso and Baker Mayfield. We also have MLB commissioner Rob Manfred. So that's our second commissioner of PFT. We've almost got them all. Two down. Goodell, balls in your court bro. Goodell. Tell we got to get Batman and then he's got no choice to complete it we're gonna do the Mount Rushmore of Bad movies which will surely be contentious We also are gonna tell good bad movies good bad good bad movies good bad movies

Are you said bad movies bad movies that are it's already contention. It's the best worst movies. It's the Mount Rushmore bad movies What did I say? You have a Mount Rushmore bad movies implies that they're good because on the Mount Rushmore bad movies bad movies that are Good Okay, bad movies was the text was sent. I'm ready for it either way I'm ready. This is gonna be the most contentious. It will be I'm ready for it I think we're all on the same page. I was Mount Rushmore implies good best bad movies Yeah, Mount Rushmore implies good Hank read the best bad movie. That's bad. All right. Perfect. We're ready to go Yep, ready. Ah, we're gonna talk open championship

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Today is Monday, July 21st and Scottie Schaeffler is the fucking man. He is the man. Before we get into golf though I should say this out loud. This is our last Monday show without football. Oh! Until February. We got football next week? We got the Hall of Fame game. On Sunday night? No I'm saying it's the last Monday show that's not in a football week when is the there is football next got it got it got it this is the last full week of no football no football on the show until February got it got it pretty fucking cool oh Hank Hank jump in the gun a little bit no I thought it was the last next Monday

you're still not talking about right Hanks right on that I thought you meant the last Monday so we're still not talking about. He's right. Hank's right on that. I thought you meant the last Monday. No, don't talk. Jump in the gun. But Hank, that was a little jump. Hank hates it when we said that football's back. It's not you hate it. It won't be back next Monday either. Shut the fuck up. He's right on that. But we will next week. Yeah. Have football, which we will not talk about for more than maybe three minutes because they don't even play the second stringers in the all three. Yes, third string. Yeah, third string. Scottie Shepard's the man.

He is the man. Big time. He absolutely dominated the Open Championship. One minus 17, Port Rush did not show up. That was also the wind. Yeah. Those courses, from the little I know about Lynx Golf in the UK or Northern Ireland or Ireland, you pretty much need the wind.

Otherwise it's not as tough of a course. Maybe some harder rain, some big fat rain, but there was not that much to see from Port Rush. The only cool thing that the course did this week was it unearthed a second ball when Rory hit that one shot. Pretty crazy. So I was watching that live. Dead ball. I thought he had fucked up and picked up his ball. I was like, why did he just do that?

And also, holy shit, Rory just hit a shot that I hit a million times when I golf. And then that just shows how good Rory is that he knew right away that wasn't his ball. Of course he flushed it, but that was cool. It was all that ball had been there forever. Yeah. I want to know what the marking on that ball was. I wanna know what the procedures, like do they have people before these sermons that go through all the weeds, all the fescue, and they just pull out old balls nonstop?

That thing was buried. It was buried. It was, I'd say maybe four, three, four inches underground. Yeah. Like the earth has evolved since that ball plugged in there. But when he picked it up, I was just like, holy shit, what is he doing right now? Do you have that same feeling Hank? I thought that was his shot for me, too I was like oh, he just miss hit it and now he's gonna be penalized nope second ball

It's kind of like when it happens. You know Wrigley when a second ball pops out of the ivy Yeah, when you hit one in into the ivy, and there's two balls a little time capsule. Yeah, it's fun now Rory should also feel bad because Rory has unleashed Scotty Scheffler on the world by encouraging to change his putter two years ago. So I looked up some of the stats. Scotty Scheffler, before he changed the putter, he was like 170th on the PGA Tour in the Strokes Gain putting.

He's awesome at putting. This week, he was number one. Yeah. He was the best. And since changing to the new putter, he's hovered like top 20. Yeah. So Rory, you fucked everything up, buddy. He also I mean, we said this after the Masters when Rory was saying we like, Hey, this might unleash Scotty and it has unleashed Scotty. It's the year of Scotty wins his second major of the year. It's also crazy to put in perspective that February 13th, 2022, I bring up that

date. Why? That was Scottie Schaeffler's first PGA Tour win. That's three and a half years ago. That's not like, I think it's, we've had this conversation before, Scottie Schaeffler, how good he is and also how much older and dignified he looks to his age. Is he like 29 still? I think he's 29. He turns 30 on the Sunday of the US Open next year. Right. The only major that he hasn't won yet. It feels like he's been around forever because he's been so dominant in these three and a half years but yeah he is always first win on tour was three and a half years ago and he's yeah, he has 17 wins. He's been he's been awesome.

He's been awesome. He's been awesome. It was the exact same number of days between his first major win and his fourth major win as it took Tiger Woods between his first major win and his fourth major win. So I'm happy you brought that up because I wanted to talk about this

because Scottie was so good at the Open that we had nothing to talk about. So naturally it became Scottie versus Tiger. Is he Tiger? And then that stat came out that it was exact same amount of days. It was, yeah, 1000, what was it? 1,719 days, I believe, was in between the third and earth, the first and the fourth. Yep. They also, it also was the exact same, I think

number of starts for him and Rory in terms of their fourth major win. And then Rory had like 30 more starts to get his fifth. Yeah. But I, the only reason I wanted to bring this up is because it did become Scotty versus Tiger. And yes, that is a crazy stat that it took him. Yeah. 1,197 days between their first major and their fourth major Tiger Woods then won the next two majors that he played in. And Tiger Woods at that point got the tiger slam. That was it. Those were the next two to get the tiger slam. So that was the, his fourth or sorry, his fifth major was to get the PGA championship. And then his sixth major was to get the masters and they were literally

the next two starts. So I'm not saying that Scotty can't be tiger, but we got to pump the brakes on Scottie's Tiger because I saw also there was a bunch of stats going around where they picked like a three year window. It's basically Scottie's last three and a half years in Tiger 2002 to 2005, which is just that's erasing his slam. And I went and looked and again, this is, I love Scottie Scheffler. I hope he is Tiger, because that would be awesome for golf.

But it also is a good reminder of like, I think people need to remember how awesome Tiger Woods was. So Tiger Woods, so Scottie has 134 PGA starts. He's won 17 times, he has four majors. Tiger, in his first 134 PGA starts had 32 wins and eight majors. So almost double on both, just showing how crazy he is. Tiger also in his first 250 PGA starts, won 71 times and he finished top three 115 times, almost half the time he was top three. And he had more major wins 14 than he had miss cuts 13. That's his first 250 starts. Also Tiger Woods, we mentioned the slam. Tiger

had a 27 start stretch in 99 and 20 in 2000. 27 starts. How many tournaments did he win Hank? 27. These are PGA tour events, 27 starts. How many did he win? 11. 16. That's insane. Including four majors. Think about that for a second. He literally would just win 65% of the time that they would have a PGA Tour event for that year. You can do all these advanced stats. I go off one and that's the Chipotle quotient.

And that's how, what percentages of Chipotles could Tiger Woods walk into and be able to eat a meal without being recognized? It was probably like 0%. Scotty Scheffler is batting 50% in his own city right now. That's true. That's true. Another crazy Tiger stat, because there's so many of them. And again, love Scotty. Scotty won, so this is his 10th consecutive tournament win when holding the outright 54-hole lead. Basically, if he's winning the first three days, he's going to win the tournament. How many times do you think Tiger Woods did it? 30.

Consecutive? 20. 37. Jesus. 37 consecutive times Tiger Woods had the 54- whole lead and won the tournament. And then the, another crazy one, uh, Tiger Woods won five PGA tour events in a row, three separate times. That's, that's crazy. Five in a row, three separate times. Yeah. The, you're right. The only thing that you can talk about when it becomes a lopsided victory is like, is,

is this man Tiger Woods? It's not fair to Scottie. NBA players coming up the only thing we can think to say like is this guy Michael Jordan's son? Right because he was really good like when you watch a guy dominated golf you're like is this the same as we felt with Tiger Woods? It's not gonna be the same Tiger Woods was just unreal But and I think Scottie has to stay ranked number one in the world for the next 10 years Yeah To equal Tigers reign right and obviously Scottie doesn't care about this because it's not he seems like maybe the most grounded Well-adjusted athlete ever the the quote he gave before the tournament

He obviously people took it different ways where he's like, you know, I went a major and I'm happy for a couple minutes He kind of cleaned it up or explained it better today where he's just like look It's this is I love golf like reaching this pinnacle is incredible But if it if everything in my life was defined by golf well, then maybe you would be Tiger Woods Yeah, but like that's that's a different He's very like it's actually incredible for an athlete to be able to say that like I'm really really good and athlete to be able to say that like I'm really really good and I love winning and I love competing but I have more in life that gives me fulfillment and fills my heart and that also really has to suck for everyone who Scottie's going

against. They got because he's basically like yeah he's like yeah winning the another major is awesome but you know what's even better? Having a family. Being a well-rounded human being. Yeah. Tiger was never really a well-rounded human being. I don't think that anybody said when he was dominant that this guy, he was really got it all. Yeah. Scotty, though, I didn't take it when he was saying, like, yeah, my family, all that stuff.

I didn't take it to mean that he doesn't love golf. Neither did I. I think he's a fucking psycho who loves golf. Correct. But he's even more of a psycho who loves his family. And also understands that if golf is the only thing that defines you, there's, yeah, he's on an incredible streak right now, but there'll be a streak where he's not on an incredible streak and if golf is the only thing that defines you, then you just become a depressed person and you have no meaning in your life.

And it's pretty good that he's got the wherewithal to be like, I have meaning, I find meaning in a lot of different places. All right. So Tiger Woods against Scotty Scheffler, match play, 18 at Augusta, both in their primes. Tiger, Tiger minus 180. Dude, Tiger used to, and Scott is getting close to this, but I remember- Tiger did it all with crabs too. Pretty, pretty impressive. Yeah. I remember this because Scotty, I think, what was he before this tournament? Was he like plus 350 or something?

Plus 400. Plus 400. He was plus 450. There were many tournaments where Tiger, it was even money. It was just like it was Tiger versus the field. It was the bet you were making. And yeah, I think it's also what we do. We do it in all sports because we want the thing that we thought we'd never see again to be something we're seeing again, where we say, Oh, watching tiger in his prime was an insane, almost religious experience. We want that to happen again. And Scotty might get there

because he's starting off in a, in a way that like, if he stacks up another, if he duplicates these next three and a half years, the same as these last three and a half years I See still wouldn't be as it still wouldn't be as dominant as tiger But it would be pretty damn close You know what the difference is with Scotty when he's winning this tournaments we kind of we want there to be drama right the end Well, that's good. We don't we don't we don't know but I think it was totally different. Yeah, I think with Scotty It's like you want there to be drama in the final round after it's kind of a boring final round Scotty just keeps making par putts when you think he might slip up and you know

He ends up winning the whole thing We're like it would have been nice if it was closer at the end with Tiger Woods when you were watching Tiger You were tuning in specifically to watch Tiger beat the fuck out of everybody like you got more excited the more lopsided that that the fight Got yeah Scotty hasn't gotten to that place yet. No, I don't know that he will I don't know if he will either but he's awesome and it's it's very cool to see him be as dominant as he's been I think it could turn into like a Jordan LeBron thing to where Scotty could just play more and get better stats Yeah, but people will always be like it's it's just not tiger. We should also say that I mean Scotty probably is playing against tougher opponents. Yeah, definitely. Because

the Tiger effect. All people inspired by Tiger. Correct. Are here. And so there's that, that's that's absolutely should be stated. And again, this is very, this is 0% slight on Scotty because I love him. It's just the Tiger. We just need to remember every now and then how incredible Tiger was. And just how insane that stretch. I mean, again, what did I say? Was it 27 starts and he won 16 of them? Yeah, it's pretty incredible. That's insane. 27 starts stretch where he won 16 tournaments including four majors. That's so stupid.

I do think all the perspective stuff helps Scotty when it comes to his bounce-back stats. Yeah. Did you see the stat that they put out where it's like if he hits a bogey, 36% of the time the next hole he's going to make a birdie. Yeah. And just wipe it out. Yeah. It was like... And the tour average is I think 13% and he does it over a third of the time. Because there was that stretch today when I was watching where it was, I think he was up eight early and eight strokes and then it was, I walked back to the TV and it was like four. He said, oh shit, this could be something and then he just corrected it right.

And then he had like two long par putts, like 10, 15 footers that he made and it was just over. Also, shout out to Gutterup. He's like two long par putts like 10 15 footers that he made and it was it was just over It was also shout out to to got her up. Yes, like a European genius He's great in Scotland great Northern Ireland probably might be listening to part of my take right now confirmed AWL Shout out Oklahoma big big year for Oklahoma Yeah, the so Chris got her up who will definitely have to have on at some point before so what So Chris got her up, who we'll definitely have to have on at some point, before, so what, nine days ago, 10 days ago, his career earnings was 2,700,000 and then this past

10 days he won 2,700,000. That rocks. So he just doubled his career. What are taxes like when you went over in the UK? I feel like you just don't have to pay them. Yeah, you just leave town. That's just not real. Just don't go back. Yeah. That's just not real. Also,

I would say that Scotty is starting to get a little bit of the, the tiger. Like you can't beat tiger on Sunday when he's up. Obviously I talked about the 10 consecutive, that was his 10th consecutive, the how tongue Lee, who he played with. I liked that guy. Yeah. He said, he said, admitted hehmm like that guy yeah, he said He said admitted he could be playing for say he said I'm actually quite looking forward to it four shots behind kind of like Play for second especially play with the world number one. I just try to play my best out there and hopefully make something happen Yeah, that was before the round. Yeah, it's like yeah I'm just out there just gonna try to and I think he and I think he asked Scotty for like tips And he was like can we can we like play together when I come to the PGA tour and he looked like he was having a great time out there

Yeah, he did. He's like smiling laughing. He knew that he wasn't gonna beat Scott. No one was gonna beat Scotty. Do we think The other the other two things I had was I feel like the broadcast was trying to will Rory a little bit Oh, yeah, too. The fans. Oh, yeah a little bit. Yeah a little bit. Oh, yeah. The fans. Oh, yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Scottie was demolished. The scene on 18 on Saturday, there was acting like he was Sunday and he was winning. Yeah. One of the greatest scenes I've ever seen in sports. It was a little much. Yeah. Also, Bryson might have figured out Lynx golf. He did. He actually figured it out before the opening round,

and then he forgot it during the opening round, but then he figured it out again. For the last three rounds. Yeah. The stinger that he hit, like, in the practice round that topped out at, I think it was like 30 feet in the air, hit it like 190 miles an hour. That was a sick shot, but has he figured out Lynx golf? He might have. Thursday would have begged to differ. Because yeah, what was his, he shot a 78 and then he followed it up with a 65, 68, 64.

Pretty good. Yeah. So he could have been in the mix if he hadn't shot that 78. Mm-hmm I have a question for you guys is Bennett Scheffler the most well-known baby currently. Yeah, every Sunday. I would say it's like a Riley Curry status Yeah, he had his moment when he fell which was very cute Riley was like tiger and now Bennett is like Scotty. Yeah, but yeah, he's he's everywhere. The fall was very funny Holding the trophy. It seems like he's he's everywhere the fall was very funny holding the trophy

It seems like he's he's gotten used to holding championship trophy. It's literally every Really good at it. He's better than Colin Mark. How it holding championship trophy is I mean that's got to be like 20 years from now. You just have a collage of all the trophies. He held. Yeah, pretty fucking cool as a baby I also like how right after these rounds are done, right after he wins the championships, his wife just hands him the baby like, yeah, baby, you're on duty right now. Yeah. I wonder if we should try to get Bennett. I wonder if Bennett is getting bored of it. We can ask Scotty next time he comes on. Is Bennett, is he bored of all these trophies? Well, does Bennett have the perspective as he loves his family more than he loves championship trophies.

What if Bennett, what if Bennett was like secretly Boss Baby and he was coaching Scotty and we just didn't know? Whispering. Yeah. What if he's the mastermind behind all of this? Yeah, I don't know. Is Bennett. I'm not ruling it out. Is Bennett. It has nothing to do with the fact I watched Boss Baby four times this weekend with my kids.

Is Bennett further ahead right now than Charlie Woods was I The same age I how old is Charlie Woods Was he 18 17 Charlie Woods is 16. He's born in 2009. Yeah, no Bennett's way ahead It is tiger 2009 is when tiger started to I think that was Navy SEALs tiger when he come back Also, the craziest thing about Tiger Woods that people forget is he was by far the best golfer in the world And he just decided I'm gonna change my entire swing and be a Navy SEAL and be Navy SEAL And then he was great with his new swing. Yeah. Oh shit

Charlie Woods has only seen one major victory from his dad. So Bennett's Bennett's way and it's him He would Bennett's got two right or does he have three? think it's too I think he's like one years old so he doubled it up today that's right yeah yeah yeah yes cuz 2009 was I think when it all started to I think that was the Thanksgiving yeah it would be funny if history just repeated itself and Scottie was just Tigard that way too he was just really really good at hiding it. I don't cuz when the tiger stuff happened I don't think anybody it was a massive story, but I don't think anyone was like, oh my gosh This doesn't seem like Tiger Woods that I know it was oh, oh I can I can see tiger being a psycho and going down that Road. Oh, I disagree. I remember being shocked. Yeah. Yeah, cuz he was he was like the perfect

Advertiser like you know the the on every single commercial had the family had the supermodel wife Can I was shocking that was shocking it was definitely I think we've I think because we learned everything after We we kind of misremembered, but I remember being like what the fuck, but I think Scottie would be more I remember thinking that it was like oh he just got in a fender bender like no big deal that's how they not his yeah yeah and then when you slowly figured out you're like oh shit it's way worse than that also we should we did a bad job I'll take I'll take I'll take my hand up here Phil Mickelson should have one take of the year because his tweet from March Here's a hot take to Scotty win in 2025 before the Ryder Cup. I don't think so. Mm-hmm

Also, that's Phil saying that Phil just is saying Ryder Cup because he can't say Europe's gonna win Yeah, so he really wanted to say this Scotty win at all in 2025. No, yeah But he also have a little pride He was like hopefully Keegan will give me a call and I'll play well enough that I'll somehow make a team I'm so excited for the Ryder Cup. It's gonna be awesome. So excited. Well, you're not Hank. I'm excited. I'm excited I'm excited. It's gonna be a war. Okay, so it might be in trouble, but it's gonna be back against the wall So if it was Captain Hank if you had if you were the consigliere to Keegan Bradley, what do you tell him? I trust Keegan. That's that's whatere to Keegan Bradley what do you tell him? I trust Keegan that's that's what I'm excited about. But what do

you tell him? Trust yourself. Trust yourself, use the crowd, get hot. But in terms of the selections? Oh I don't know about that. Max Homo? Yeah. Yeah. Yes absolutely. For sure. Why did you think about that? I didn't. You thought about that for a half-second I was thinking as Keegan, but I'm I trust Keegan Keegan's gonna do the right thing got her up This website says we have a fifty four point eight percent chance of winning got her up Well, we do have to always remember that it's being played when when you played in the home country almost always wins and there's gonna be 20,000 stew finers. Mm-hmm in Frank Fleming's going nuts. 20,000 Stu fighters in Frank

Fleming's going nuts. What were those brothers at the Yankees game? The Copo Bianco. Yeah. We got to get the Copo Bianco brothers out there. With golf gloves? With golf gloves. Trying to grab balls?

Yeah. Here's a crazy stat. If you bet every, if you bet Scottie Shepard to win every single week starting this year $100, how much would you be up? Ten grand no 185 because he lost a bunch and he's always Nothing will make you feel like a bigger genius than betting on Scottie Scheffler to win a major champion I know and then hitting it like I feel like the biggest the big I figured out Las Vegas. Yeah

And then hitting it like I feel like the biggest the big I figured out Las Vegas. Yeah, so easy mine I saw Scottie Scheffler plus 450 on on Wednesday and I was like, yeah, that seems pretty good Yeah, why not? Why not take a taste turns out I really know gambling. Yeah, you do. It's great bet. It's that simple Okay, where do we want to go next? Because I have two stories that don't fully understand that maybe we can figure out as a team I think one of them might be my who's back the week. Is that WNBA? No, oh the NFL guy Because I have two stories that don't fully understand that maybe we can figure out as a team. I think one of them might be my who's back of the week. Is that WNBA? No.

Oh, the NFL guy? Okay, yeah. That one don't fully understand. Yeah. We'll do that. WNBA don't fully understand. And they had their All-Star game. Yep.

They wore shirts that said, pay us what you owe us. And then it's just a war online of they're losing $40 million a year, but also they're not. And I never understand any of the math behind, because this is like classic owner shit where they'll, you know, if you talk to MLB owner, they'll be like, yeah, we're losing money every single fucking year. I don't know. I think they probably should get paid more, but I also don't know anything about how any of the financials work. The economics behind it. Correct. I do know that they're expanding as a league. Yeah. I know that the CBA was ratified like a year ago. OK. But that didn't take into account

the Caitlin Clark factor. So the league's going to be growing. TV rights are going to be growing. But merchandise, merchandise is it feels like they're making a lot more money. You know what they should do? There should be like a week one week a year and this can go across all sports Where all the jersey sales? 100% of that money goes to the player whose Jersey it is. Yeah, be like, okay If you move the needle we're gonna give you a week see what your fans do I like that and then the fans can wear their I sponsored this player. I also just go off gut. Like, like, does this number make sense? Do you guys have off top

your head what the each team salary cap is in the WNBA? Do you have a guess? Like per year per year? Six figures. No, it's not six feet. I'm gonna go with five million. One point five million. That's not that, that's close to six figures. It is. That's five hundred thousand off. It's six figures away from being six figures. Yeah. I feel like that should be like three million.

I don't know. That sounds like a good deal. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just going off gut. Like I happen to agree with the shirt because I went gut check 1.5 million feels too low. It does feel like we've been talking about them more in the past 18 months. Caitlin Clark effect.

Caitlin Clark effect to the point where they, if you were to ask me what the average salary was I would not obviously guess that it was as low as it is. So maybe they'll figure that out. I know that teams are paying, what, 250 mil for an expansion franchise now? Yep. So they're not paying $250 million for something that's going to lose the money. You'd think.

That's generally what rich people do, is they buy stuff that's expensive because they're going to make even more money off of it. Yeah. It was also. NFL teams or sports teams, NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, they'll never tell you exactly what the cost of their operations are.

Yeah. You're never going to get that. They will lie. They'll cry poor. And they'll use that to try to suppress salaries. So I don't know. Yeah, sure, give them a raise. $3 million sounds good.

It just feels it just has gone boiled down to a quote tweet war. Yeah. Who can quote tweet The picture of them saying pay us what you owe us with more facts that I might believe in the moment and then I'll be like Well, let me look into this a little bit more. Mm-hmm Feels like there feels like the leagues on the up and up and they could probably adjust it I did see Kelsey Plum take a little shot of Caitlin Clark. Yeah, that was he said it's see how's mean girl shit It seemed that team Kate. All right, Clark

What do you mean? Oh me girl with the pods? Clark. Yeah, that was he said it's mean girl shit. It seemed that team Caitlin Clark women. Oh me girl. Oh the pods. Yeah. Yeah. She said team Caitlin Clark. They did not seem to pay much attention during the meeting when they were talking about the shirts that they were. No, she said they didn't attend or should not to be a tattletale. But but which is they weren't very present, which I think meant no, they were distracted during the meeting that they were at. No. So the story I read into it more which I think meant no they were distracted during the meeting that they were at no So the story I read into it more I think they invited team Clark ten minutes before and they didn't come okay because they got invited ten minutes before But they also wore the shirts so yeah cares. Yeah, they end up wearing the shirt Why are you telling on a map play the clip? It was a very tight

I don't want to be a tattletale it was mean girl, and then who's that Ionescu Sabrina she she came correct. She was like why would you fucking say that? Yeah, you idiot Kelsey plumb We didn't at least as players we didn't know that that was gonna happen So I think it was kind of like a genuine surprise, but the t-shirt Just United front was determined this morning that we had a meeting for and you know not to not to tattle-tale but zero members of team Clark were very present for that.

They weren't they didn't go. But no we were just we had a very... That really needed to be mentioned. I'm trying to make a situation light okay. No. Good job taking the air big time. That's also such a knowing now that it was, they invited him 10 minutes before. That's a setup. Yeah. Set them up. I kind of respect them being just out really being like, I fucking hate Caitlin Clark. That's like, there's no pettiness about it. She's not, she should say that.

That's the only way that you would say something is because you, but then she tried to be like, Oh, I'm trying to make a light situation. Like just own it. And it's very funny because you're saying, uh, pay, pay us what you owe us. And then also taking a shot of Caitlin Clark. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if it wasn't for Caitlin Clark. So it was team Clark. So it was like her, there were two different all star teams and Caitlin Clark had So it was Team Clark. So it was like her, there were two different all-star teams. Correct. And Caitlin Clark had one team.

She's saying zero members of Team Caitlin Clark. Not like Caitlin Clark and her managerial team or like her marketing representatives. Correct. And they were also invited 10 minutes before. Yeah. So they didn't come to a meeting that they, they got the pity invite. This is a lot of drama about a t-shirt. It's just so funny because it's like a unified moment

and then you've got to be the mean girl. I definitely took that as Caitlin Clark's management team. No, Team Clark is the other all. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense and a lot less petty. Like the Shack-O-G's. It would be like, because they were obviously all the other, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shack-O-G, Shack-O yeah, Shacko G. Shacko. Geez

Okay What else happened in it? Well we talked a little baseball. Yeah baseball baseball We're getting close to trade deadline Hank the Cubs beat the Red Sox two out of three. Yep. I went to games. They lost Oh, you're bad luck bad luck Brewers caught the Cubs in the Red Sox two out of three. Yep. I went to games. They lost. Oh, you're bad luck Bad luck Brewers caught the Cubs in the central. I have a bad. I have a max you can tell me if this is stupid Your baseball guy, I have a bad feeling I have a bad premonition the Cubs are very good They are the best record in the NL tied with the Brewers. Also the Dodgers kind of low-key stink maybe

the best record in the NL tied with the Brewers. Also the Dodgers kind of low key stink maybe. Nah, like. They are right now. Yeah, but they don't stink. They weren't gonna lose a game this year. They're losing games right now. Would you feel good about a team knowing you need pitching at the trade deadline and then the GM saying,

we have a good enough team to be an electric team that's playing deep in October. To do that we have to stay healthy, we have to do the little things, we saying we have a good enough team to be an electric team that's playing deep in October to do that we have to stay healthy we have to do the little things we know we have the talent we don't have to get lucky we just have to play really really well would that make you a little concerned? Our GM is saying the exact same thing and we just signed a 40 year old reliever who was basically retired. Setting the table for being like we're probably we're gonna we're gonna do one thing But we're not gonna do the thing that you think we're gonna do isn't this guy like a three-time Philly

Yeah, like he's been on an all third time that he'll be on the Phillies. Yeah, who is it David Robertson? He's 40. He's 40. He's a free agent He was a free agent did like a showcase in Rhode Island and the Phillies signed him But I think he's he was pretty good last year Rhode Island and the Phillies signed him but I think he's he was pretty good last year He's 40 and he hasn't pitched all year. I'm 40 is it but like a dinosaur Or I was really fucking good when I did the pitching challenge that you're going to do eventually yeah, I Did I say that I say that on here? Did I say that privately no?

No one knows what you're talking about. No one knows what you're talking. I never doing I I've reached out to a couple teams date dates aren't working out. They're working out Still working on it. Okay But yeah, no, that's funny you have that quote because I'm pretty sure Rgms, it's the exact same quote about our lineup. It's like this is a lineup that can win in October Yeah, you know what they're doing. Well well They're just setting you up, so they're just like hey. I know I know everyone's talking about this We're not gonna do as much as you think but isn't it kind of true though Yeah, it could be true that if your team's good why try to mess anything up because we have four starters right now Yeah, that's pretty good reason. Yeah

You need it. You need five. Yeah, and we'll get one back, but still you probably need another one. Yeah I don't know bullpen games bullpen games bullpen games. Just just throw all the bullpen Everything you got. Did you have fun? Yeah Wrigley bleachers Friday afternoon the best. Did you take a top off did not take the top? Why I don't know I should have. You should have. Did you have a beer bat? Did have a beer bat.

Did you win the 50-50? Did not win the 50-50. Damn. Max, did you ever check the 50-50 of the one that you tried to parade in my face? Nope. I knew you wouldn't. Nope. Didn't look at it.

Had no idea. I probably won. Max went to a Cubs game was like three weeks ago and tweeted, was like, I'm probably going to win this. And then I texted him and I was like, hey, hey check the ticket I'm pretty sure that's like a Three week 50-50 that's bull. He was so mad. It is bullshit. I've I've been drunk I've been banging the drum about this. It's bullshit what they've done I would love to know the amount of winners that don't accept accept the prize. That has to be why they do it

I think they have your information so they might reach out to you How do they have my information I think I just credit card is That is that true. Do is that how that works? I think so then you get an email It's loaded into your account. I have no idea. I literally have no idea. Oh I remember I took I I was like waiting for the set I was like waiting for the seventh inning. I like when are they gonna announce this what are they gonna announce this and then I Got the tech so you were like you're not getting that till Sunday. Yeah, I was like I don't give a fuck by Sunday You should show up

Just randomly and be like I'm here for my 50-50 actually I lost my ticket you can I could check yeah You can see past winnings all right. I'll get back to you all right Well actually no max we have one other thing the Eagles Super Bowl rings should we talk about them sick? I I wanted I Really really wanted to come in here and make a case for the the wings flapping out to be fucking like lame and Stupid and like what happened to the good old days with the Super Bowl ring But every time they pop out. I'm like damn. That's cool. It's pretty safe

It's I can't do anything about it looks a little bit like a mustache It's just but it's it's cool mustaches are also cool listen. I would say that growth though max I really wanted to get coming here and try to fight you over this and I was like but then I kept on watching it And I was like I can't say anything because I think that's really cool that they did that I think making fun of a team for having a lame Super Bowl ring is that's even too big of a loser move for me I wanted to it's so stupid. You're wanted boring sucks wanted to I have a take I have a negative take about it Okay, I feel like this should be an in-season thing I have a negative take about it. Okay. I feel like this should be an in season thing in a game. Don't. Isn't there like a pregame thing that like you. That's the banner. No

no. I feel you should get in that day. Well then you. Yeah. But then they have the guys that are on different teams. Yeah. NBA does that. But yeah. I think that's what I was actually MLB. I believe does as well. Yeah. I think they do. Yeah. I think there's something about like I just another game to get to get Yeah. I think they do too. I think there's something about like, it's just another game to get, you know. The Inner Night. I know, Banner Night. Cowboys, how many days away are we? Can we get a countdown?

The ball's back. Can we get a, can we get a, we should get a, Zach. We got seven weeks. Zach, we need a clock in this studio, and we'll name it the Ryan Rosillo clock. And we're going to count down till kickoff of week one Okay, we can do that. And then as soon as week one kicks off. I want a new countdown for week one of 2026. Yes, sir I'm so excited. So excited

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Justin Herbert because he's wearing red contact lenses Pretty crazy look his eyes are red. What a drug guy didn't they have those like in like oh wait I want to say Nike did the max line or whatever it was. It's been a big thing I've seen it pop off and pop off like it's for some sort of like sports initiative back in the 2000s, but then it became a thing that goth kids were wearing in like the 20 teens I just I have a memory of just Kyle van den Bosch so that's the that's the red eyes that pop in my head so so these these were

Instead of the visor right he said he didn't like to wear the visor anymore because he has to wipe it off, right? So now he's just wearing prescription red contact. That's supposed to make the light look better I Don't know hurt or injured though. It sounds it sounds bad sound soft If you're if you're wearing red contact lenses to try to be more intimidating Yeah, like he could just wear normal contact. It'd be great for memes. Yeah Shane hurt or injured Justin Herbert your quarterback wearing red contact lenses hmm

Hurt I feel like that's less bad than injured. Are you worried at all about this? Not at all Okay, Jared verse was like the the first guy to do it and he hit a pretty good year last year Don't you think maybe? It would be nice if nausea Harris had taken eye protection a little bit more seriously. I do, yeah. What is the latest with Najee Harris? He's on the pup list, I think. For non-football injury.

No, he's on non-football injury, yeah. And the Chargers didn't see his injury before he reported to camp, which was like two weeks after the injury happened. So he just called them and said, like, my eye's not that bad. Yeah, and then the doctors would send information, but what do you think? What do you think when was when did training camp start last Monday, but they had a report of football's back so back so back So what what do you think hardball's reaction to the red contact lenses was? He might have he probably wants he probably puts him on just to be like I need to be in the same wavelength

Can I get a pair? Yeah, I would love to hear him get explained what it does I would love to hear him get explained what happened in Najee Harris. Yeah, what do you mean the firework? You put your eye on a firework. I work problem you addicted fire. Why do you hope why do you put it in his eye? What do you mean he's he doesn't have an eye? Why were you at a firework party? And what about that guy in Fresno? What was his deal? Wait, there's another Najah Harris? Which one of you did we sign?

He's got to be very disappointed in Najah Harris. He does. Shane, any more comments about Justin Herbert's eyes? Is this the year that the contact lenses unlock something for him and he takes a bigger step? I hope so. Okay, I do. What's the what's the successful year playoff win? We need a playoff one you need a we need one bad but last year we had like the easiest schedule in the league and this year it's pretty difficult. So shit. But you're

too. Jalen riggersger is like our wide receiver three right now. He's good. He was drafted super high. He was super high some percent. For Justin Jefferson. Didn't you guys get a tight end though? Tyler Conklin. Yeah. He'll be pretty good. Okay. You still got Puna forward? No. I wish. Puna would be awesome right now. Alright, thank you Shane. That was our Chargers Minute. Thank you. As well as our McDonald's snack wrap. Hurt or injured, brought back an old segment.

Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week? Yeah. Then we get to our contentious Mount Rushmore. Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by our friends at Truly, Truly Hard Seltzer. Truly Unruly is a high-alk hard seltzer that drinks light but parties hard. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules. With 8% ABV, it hits hard but still tastes amazing. Comes in four fresh

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time fighting. Max Holloway, who I was pulling for, I predicted in our preview last week. You went, Dustin Poirier was, that was his last fight. You were going against him? I like Max Hollis. Oh, Max, he became good friends with Max Holliway at Beer Olympics. Yeah, that's right. No, me and Max Holliway. When Dustin Poirier was in the bathroom. Became good friends in Verdansk.

Wait, what? You played Call of Duty with him? Yeah. When? Back in the day, a couple times. How? Hooligans, dude. Oh, okay.

The hooligans. Sold over four shirts I was second second highest Jersey seller I'm um for I think one was seven who's one I forget milk hunter but that was a good fight thought he's gonna knock him out in the first round and then he just kind of dominated from there. But Dustin Poirier, is he the, you're a UFC expert, you can answer this. Is he the most beloved, one of the most beloved UFC fighters of all time? Cause I feel like it was out like tons of praise and he, I don't know if, did he ever win a title? People are going to be pissed about this. Quite possibly. I know that he was one of

those guys that fought literally every did have. He never, he was never scared of a fight. He fought everyone like, yeah, he was a lightweight champion. He did win the BMF belt too, right? I believe so. But he, uh, he fought everyone. Let's see. Doesn't worry. People are going to be very upset. Uh, he competed in the lightweight division, former interim UFC lightweight champion. There we go. Uh, also challenged three times for the UFC lightweight championship and twice for the BMF title. Okay. What's his legacy? Hank fought everyone, fought everyone. Badass never, never never back down never scared of a fight

I also with with fighters in retirement Like I never believe it Why no he's I mean cuz because because then they you know they they get arrested they get healthy and they're like I could I could do one more fight. I can make you know a nice payday doing another fight Yeah, they take eight months off, and they're like I feel feel amazing Yeah, I haven't gotten hit in the face in a while he uh He fought for the UFC lightweight championship a lot and lost a few of them But he's he did fight everyone. I think he fought Connor like three times and Max Holloway three times

They even Khabib lost a Khabi. He fought he would never turn down a fight. Who was the best undercard Hank? I'm over main main card guy. Yeah Okay, Sam. Yeah, you stay just the main card. Yeah, like you true UFC fans understand Shout out doesn't pour you. I watch the whole the whole card as well. Oh max our new Oh Max our new what the fuck. See guy. What the fuck. Did you have see guy. I get one segment. I watched the fight. I was just saying I was just saying I watched. What do you think. All my bets lost. That's basically that's basically that's a terrible recap. That's a terrible recap. That was great. I liked it. I texted Jack Max CFP. Give me give me your plays and I've three out of four lost and that's basically what I got. Oh no. Well now Kelsey Plum over here. Why are you taking a shot at Jack Mack. I

was just telling you I was telling you that was unnecessary. What did you say. Why did you text. Yeah. He's Kelsey Plum. You take it. I should have. I should have. You know the jerk. Did you. Did you. It's K. E. L.. Yeah, Kelsey. Well, I also feel like I was watching. I don't watch a lot of UFC fight. I feel like they should attack more. You're the shoot the puck guy of UFC. I was just I was just watching all the fights, watching my bets. And I'm my guys were losing.

So I needed them to like get a KO for the fight. And I just kept being like, all right, now like alright now attack attack and they just they just keep playing defense and never attack I'm like it's the only way you can win this fight is if you attack go attack you should be a corner guy yeah you gotta punch more you gotta punch him yes I don't I don't I don't get it that's my that's my UFC take. Zack are you sneaky UFC guy? I'm not a sneaky UFC guy I watch that is don't have the knowledge. Wait, but did you watch the whole card? I did not see the clips on Twitter Oh, okay. All right, so not a UFC guy No, not at all because there is a big I feel like Venn diagram of like gamers. Yeah, see memes are you a guy?

News is everything guy. Uh, sometimes it's like a Once every three weeks, what do you think about this fight? It was okay. Yeah, pretty good recap. Yeah, it was just okay. Did your best hit? No, I'm taking a break. Mm-hmm. Oh Okay Also, there should be more chaos. Yeah. Yeah, definitely no too much defense. There's too much defense Yeah, I want I want more they should be standing up and just throwing throwing. Yeah, yeah be much better sport like boxing. Yeah bigger gloves There should be corners actual corners not this octagon circle shit for a second I was like yeah

circle shit for a second I was like yeah Hicks all this like that could be it I actually like when a guy gets choked out some about no I want more things on the primal there wasn't a lot of ground like there wasn't a lot of groundwork going on my favorite is when somebody refuses to tap out and then gets choked out yeah they get their arm broken yeah yeah like I'm just not gonna tap Jesus didn't tap Yeah, will I I? Love UFC more than anyone, but it it's very violent That's our UFC UFC guy say that

Mean hey couldn't be on opposite sides of the spectrum of this. I think you might have to be our UFC guy, Max. No, no, no, no, no. I like Hank doing it because I mean last week is his preview was or his recap was just the commercial. That was also probably the one time I will ever I would like I was just with the boys and then that is a great thing. I probably like and when I say with the boys and saying by myself

But like three or four times a year. I'll just like Saturday night. Just like yeah fucking buy this Yeah, well, it's also this is the time of year drunk with your boys watching you. Yeah, cuz you just do yeah You're so you lock it. It's the time of the year where this is diehard. Yeah throwing knives at each other Yeah, that yeah, my mom's not gonna like that It I'm she will now she's gonna hear this was that real one video I'm a valent a your son was throwing a large butcher's knife to his friends I've actually played that game. It's so fun. The most it's so fun. I don't care Yeah, everyone people were mad. The only thing I was worried about is if your button pushing finger got hurt Yeah, you'd be in a problem. The best would be if it just landed on his foot. Yeah

Yeah, no, but that I that is a fun game great game really great game because like the worst that's really gonna happen to you Actually, there's definitely definitely some really bad. That's the worst thing that could happen playing catch the knife? What you do with a gun? No, that's what I'm saying could be like people like guns are way worse. Yeah true for that game. Maybe not Hmm no wrong. That's your place bad take if it was unloaded Okay, we should play a couple rounds, but one bullet in it one bullet. Yeah a single bullet We should play a couple rounds and that's the other couple rounds. We should play a couple rounds. We should play a couple rounds. That's the other thing, like I don't think you can post it anywhere. Like I think-

What? That game? The knife toss? Yeah, for people who don't know, he literally was just throwing a knife. It's Chef Donny. Chef Donny, he's an adrenaline. Chef Donny is the one who originated the game, of course. I think he pretty much landed, I actually have to ask him where I is it a cooking thing because I did play it in college

So I don't know if it's a and he went to Wisconsin, too But I think it's probably a cooking thing. I think that's like a chef thing Tom I said he had also played it in college I had never played it before chef Donnie recommended that I play but for people don't know chef Donnie He I'm pretty sure he like jumped out of an airplane landed in his apartment then started playing the knife Yeah, we've talked about him recently because he's the one who bought a parachute off of Facebook marketplace. Yeah.

Is that the one he used? Yes. That's the parachute that he uses. He bought off of- Still alive. Still alive. Biggest junk science guy maybe in this world. He has like astronaut underwear.

I love it. Oh, Stephen Ch Stephen changes sent us the Dingers only update. We got a Brandon in first with 34 Jersey Jerry with 31. I'm at 28 with Hank tied for third. Zach 24 people were saying your team wasn't good. PFT 19 Max with 18 Stephen Che with 13. Who cares? I mean, doesn't mean anything. That's true. That's right. Well, Stephen Che will do the punishment quickly. Expeditious. PFT. My Who's Back of the Week is labor strife in professional sports. So not only the WNBA, but I don't really understand everything that happened in the last two weeks with the NFL and the NFLPA. But Lloyd Howell was the head of the NFLPA. Then he resigned last week. And then all these stories are coming out about finding how he was expensing trips to

like strip clubs on the NFLPA's dime. And then- Rocks. That's fine. And you what better place to conduct business that's that's the guys can't have any fun anymore exactly and there was also a report that the NFLPA executive committee took a vote when they were electing Lloyd Howe and I think he only got one vote from the executive committee but then they go to all the player reps and get their real votes that count and they didn't tell them that, hey, nobody on the executive committee likes this guy. And apparently the, well, the criticism of him, I think, is that he was too close to

the ownership group because he did some part-time work for one of the, I forget what firm it was. He's a consulting firm. A consulting firm that was then given rights to purchase NFL teams. So then he could potentially be not only the head of the NFLPA, but also an owner of an NFL team. He didn't tell anybody. He also, who's the guy before him? Demora Smith. Demora Smith wore the hats.

Yeah, the hat. So first of all, shout out our friends, Pablo Torre and Mike Florio, because I'm pretty sure them as a tag team forced this. Yep. So I'm giving them all credit. But essentially, it was one of Mike Florio's favorite topics. It was the Lamar-Jackson collusion. And they found that the teams did basically after Deshaun Watson, all the teams were like, hey, let's not do that anymore. Let's not do the five year guaranteed contracts. And the NFLPA, what's this guy named? Lloyd

Howell? Lloyd Howell. Yeah. Terrible name by the way. He shouldn't have been elected just on that. So the NFLPA found out that they colluded and had the basically collusion and Lloyd Howell buried it and didn't rub it in their face and use it as a bargaining chip. And I think that's where he started to get into this trouble because anyone who's doing their job in his job would be like, hey, you guys colluded against my players. I'm ahead of the players. Instead, he was basically being like, I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine. I'm going to pretend this didn didn't happen when we go to the negotiating table. You guys got to do me a solid

Yeah, he made that settlement confidential correct. So nobody was allowed to read until public Tory and Florio got their hands on it then everything blew up from there the public Tory and Mike Florio as a duo for the NFL I mean that Roger Gidell's got to be a little worried. They're like The the truffle dogs, but for legal documents. I was going to say Woodward and Bernstein, but that's a better. Yeah. They're just two dogs going into the woods and they come back with thousands of pages of legal documents that no one in the world wants to read other than Pablo Torre and Mike Florio. And then they distill it into a podcast that dumb people like us can understand. If you get a bet you Tory doesn't even I think

Florio might be the only person when it comes to legal documents. There's definitely probably like hey Mike let's do this together. Here's a thousand pages of legal documents. Let me know. There's definitely been at least one time where Florio has texted Pablo Tori and been like holy shit I found a bombshell. Pablotori's like, oh hey, cool, cool, cool. Yeah. It emphasizes this. Yeah.

Florio. We got to do a podcast about their relationship. If you get a phone call from Florio or Pablotori, just hang up. Oh, man. Instantly. Throw your phone in the lake. Instantly.

It's already too late if they called you. So scary. Yeah, we need to. Maybe someone can make a AI of them as truffle dogs, just finding just tons of legal documents. It's an interesting story, I guess. The parts that I can understand are interesting. And then JC Treder, he was like the next up

to be the head of the NFLPA. He just resigned today. So he said he made like a statement about like affecting his family or something. My guess is that JC Treder might have been caught up in some of the same stuff that Hal was doing. That's another pelt on the wall for Torrey and Florio. Yeah. So I don't know who wants to be head of the NFLPA. I did call Florio on the way in tonight because I was like, Hey, can you explain this to me like I'm like four Yeah, he did start talking like he was talking to a four-year-old. It hurt my feelings a little bit, but also started to make sense He was like alright, so a guy's got a job And he was getting paid dollars for his job

Yeah, then spend to buy candy and then we kept on getting we kept on finding when I was talking to Mike on the phone We kept on getting to the same point and he's like and then he went to the strip club and in charge of the NFL PM like but why is that bad? Yeah So my that seems good my takeaway from that is fuck you to the strip club for not making the billing ambiguous Yeah Like the the payments on a strip club if you go to the ATM, if you use a credit, it should always say things like payment corp. Correct. It should be the

most like ambivalent thing ever. Correct. Correct. But yeah, uh, it's also kind of crazy. It all, it just shows, uh, you can have all the money in the world and still just want to be like, I'm going to expense this strip club. Cause cuz I'm pretty sure this guy Lloyd Howell gets paid like three And a half million dollars. I did read you can fucking go to the strip club. You can afford it, dude I did read one report that made it seem like he got taken to the strip club on his own Spent like eight hours at the strip club and then left at like 6 a.m. On his own Yeah, so might not have been with the boys might not. Oh might have just been solo venture. That's that's a bridge. Do you think he came? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Eight hours, eight hours. But then but he's probably doing that's a long time. Because do you think he's

a freak if he came halfway through and stayed? And he's also a freak if it took him eight hours to come. So where did Lloyd, these are the questions we have. I think he's just doing boots on the ground, like putting himself into Sean Watson shoes as he's doing the investigation. That'd be great if Pablo Torre and Florio got Lloyd Howell on Pablo Finds Out and like, you know, stuck it to him about all this, like you didn't stick up for the players and then they tagged us in and we're like, we got some pervert questions for you, sir. We're just got a couple questions. So you were on the main floor then you went

to the champagne room then you did you go to the VIP room or did you say in champagne room? Yeah. Then was there another room that they took you in the super secret VIP? Was there any at any point did any of the strippers say I never do this stuff? Yeah. Is that why you came? Yeah. How much glitter was on your penis when you got home? How long was the shower when you got home? Oh, Lloyd Howell, you're welcome to come on the show. We will not ask you at all about hiding the collusion of Lamar Jackson. We will only keep it to the strip club and we want to find out how much of a pervert you are. Not judging judgment free pervert talk. Cause I think a little bit of pervert

is absolutely, but eight hours is a long time at a strip club. Yeah. That's what got Floreos Not judging. Judgment-free pervert talk. Because I think a little bit of pervert is good. Oh, absolutely. But eight hours is a long time at a strip club. Yeah, that's what got Florio's hackles up. That's a long time. Italian like that can smell pervert. That's not, I mean, was it, wait, was it in Atlanta? There was one in Atlanta, Magic City, and there was one in Florida. So I'm not familiar with-

Tootsie's Cabaret in Florida. Okay, so I'm not familiar with Magic City. If it is an 11-type club- It is. Magic City is popping. Oh, type club it is magic cities pop Oh, then I eat ours is okay, and they've got great food. That's the Lou Williams. Yeah, that's right. That's right Okay, good. Who's back my who's back is Coldplay. Oh why they're uh, they're doing a Tour that's awesome. Yeah, I bet the tour is really good really good

I bet it's getting a lot of lot of pub on social media Lot of pub a lot of people talking about cold play. Yeah, that's so cool Good for them Vita what a predator tour la Vita V what is Vita la Vita Vita la Vita? Uh-huh, I'm gonna say look Viva la Vita Viva la Vita. Yeah, I kind of like Coldplay Coldplay Rock I know people were kind of shitting off Coldplay this guy the kiss cam Quite something. Mm-hmm quite something and now I think it's been reported to a point where we can actually talk about it and not get In trouble, I think he resigned least a statement. Yeah, he released a state Why there were some fake statements to being released was the one when he was blaming cold play?

I think that was fake. That was fake. Yeah when he came out as a cold play fan. No, he's like Oh, they got a private moment. Yeah. Like it was, it was unfair of Coldplay to put that up. I think that even though when you sign, I'm pretty sure when you buy a ticket to any sporting event, like the terms and conditions are press release. Also just, uh, I mean, I guess this is a learning experience that if you're on the kiss cam in a situation that you don't want to go viral Maybe don't drop to the ground and try to crawl out of the room Yeah, maybe try to play it off But his thought was that people at the show would recognize him because he's a CEO and then I thought like was I supposed to know

Who this guy was? the company Astronomer yeah, that sounds like a fake company. Yeah so Also every I wanted the cubs to do it this weekend. Every sporting stadium should be just do a Coldplay cam for the next few weeks. Yeah. Who's it? They were running it up. Yeah, they were running it up. Uh, yeah. I, I mean, I, I also stay woke. I feel like Coldplay might've set this whole

thing up because we're talking about Coldplay on online Coldplay is getting talked about more than they've ever been talked about so much wouldn't you agree well I mean it was a stadium tour Coldplay Coldplay Coldplay rocks I Also, it's good for astronomer The company well it was also their head of HR have you ever heard of the astronomer though now for this now Now everyone knows how we know now ever I still don't know what they do. Yeah, what do they do? Hmm? Also the Phillies did it yeah the fanatic the fan. Yeah, dude, the miss finale's got a dumper Look at that thing. I'm more of a wagon. This is met guy myself

Also, I should have I shouldn't have done coldplay first I should have done my second who's back first because if we're talking about misappropriation of funds Boys, we might have our own. We might actually have to have Pablotori and Mike Florio investigate something for us because I was alerted to something. I think you guys were tagged in this as well. At least you were a PFT. Our good friend and fantasy manager, Jerry O'Connell, went on Andy Cohen's show this past week with his lovely wife, Rebecca Romaine. All do respect. And there was a bombshell dropped. After 18 years of marriage, a longtime couple made a surprise admission about how they manage their finances.

We keep our money completely separate. Romaine 52. They didn't have to put in her age. Confessed during an interview with Andy Cohen on Sirius XM. She's only 52. Yeah Wow, so Jerry He could be paying for the whole league. Oh Driveway he's made he's he's he's throwing us a song and dance about how he won't only could pay for a third of the league Yeah, and he's saying a lot of things about how he has to explain things to his. Yeah. He's misappropriation of funds. No I it's more I'm disappointed. Yeah. He's taken us for a ride. Yeah. How many times

you think he's going to the strip club with the two thirds of the payments we're paying. This is bad Jerry. This means we might need someone as oversight. This is bad. Oh yeah, Florio being the oversight would be good. Florio would not let Jerry do anything. Drop a contract, have him locked in. Non-compete clauses. I guess we'll find out how much he wants to manage our team when he decides how much he wants to pay for our team. Price just went up.

Price just went up. Talk your way into that. Hope you got the headline you wanted Jerry I do I actually kind of hope like Jerry walked out of that interview and looked at his wife I was like why'd you fucking say that? Boys apart my take you're gonna know that I could pay for more than just a third of the fantasy It was a great excuse that yeah, I bought it Yeah, I could also see a world where Jerry told her to say that on the yeah Yeah, just to you know drum him up a bit, get his name buzzed on page six.

I also could see a world where Rebecca Romaine, all due respect, maybe has access to Jerry's finances but he doesn't have access to hers. Think that could very well be the truth of the matter. I want to know what the event was that made her say, Jerry, we need to have separate finances. Probably fantasy football. Probably fantasy football. Yeah fancy football actually I'm gonna come all the way around Jerry you're vindicated because you just love the game so much that's why he had to separate the finance okay Zach who's back the week my who's back of the week this week is the Pittsburgh Pirates because on a

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which does help lower privilege children in the area. I thought it was an all-time move. Pittsburgh guy guy the Pirates celebrated him. I look like a great day Yeah, very cool. There was like a line down the like across the bridge. I think yeah, it was like the whole city showed up Yeah, it's fantastic very cool And the Pirates ownership still needs to be helped taking a task for being bad owners, but this is a cool move Wow, it's packed good who's back Should we do our Mount Rushmore Before we get to max is ready to fight already max is pretty mad about this. All right

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Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We're doing best bad movies. And there's been some pre fights. Well, Max is just... He's pre-mad mad. He's like he's ready to go. I was sitting up in my office and I heard you telling Max. That's not true. That is true. I didn't even talk to him. Are you or are you not pre mad? Well that's just my normal volume. It felt. There was nobody else in the. Pft and Hank weren't even in the kitchen. It was me and memes just talking about, well there were some- Were you talking with your hands? I'm always talking with my hands. Are you Italian?

Yeah. Um, well there were some picks that I told memes, even memes, I was like no that's a good movie. We can't. Are we doing any guidelines? Are we just going, are we gonna go say a movie and then we're gonna debate? Best bad movie I think that what is a bad movie is gonna be up for debate

But it it can probably stay on there if you think it's a bad movie I think the tones need to be set with the first Love a lot of bad movies are we going off like critics score on Rotten Tomato, that's what I'm saying That's one point that a point. I will be pulling up the Rotten Tomato of every single movie. I love that. I'm having integrity with this because like there's movies that I know are bad but I enjoy watching. We're going we're going integrity. I'm down to go integrity. Yeah I'm down to go integrity. Okay. Because we had some picks that I love for some reason or and they have to be bad on both. They have to be bad on the

Yes, yes, that's the best bad movie. It's a bad movie. Just my critics And I think the ultimate judge is gonna be the fans that vote on the Mount Rushmore But like there are awesome movies that have like especially comedy movies Yeah, that are loved by everyone. They're still bad like there's there's that That's not a bad movie like a bad critic and they have to be bad on but max and people will see that be like that's not a bad movie I'm not gonna vote for that list ah I don't know sounds like you don't trust the AWL. That's a decent point I mean there's some yeah, but people are gonna see like their favorite movies and pick their favorite movies No, because then they're putting their favorite movie in a bad category

favorite movies. No because then they're putting their favorite movie in a bad category. But I don't see it as a bad movie where I'm like saying like this is a because it's the best bad movie. It's a movie I like the bad movie that you're going to watch even though you know it's bad. If I was with someone who is like a professor they'd be like this is a terrible movie. But with me and the boys like this is a fucking I'm going to give an example that we talked about That we that we just couldn't put on the list because it's not true, but pineapple Express is technically a bad move no You know that's good. I think it's good. It's a good comedy. That's what I'm saying like that is That's where the honor system. There's some bad. There's some bad comedies that are so bad that they're kind of good, correct

That's a different category from Pineapple Express. Okay. Which might not, it's not going to win an Oscar for Best Picture, but it's a good comedy. I agree. But that is what I'm talking about, the reviews for Pineapple Express are hard. That's not where I thought you were going. But you have to admit, if you put Pineapple Express on this Mount Rushmore, people would see that and be like, that's a terrible pick for this app. I didn't think about it like that okay All right good. We're all pre-med. No actually I think we might Yeah, and there will be some ones that we'll have to debate all right, so who's up first you guys are also? I'm memes considers himself a

connoisseur of bad movies I'm passing the ball not even wow all we're going all the plum He said he only watches bad Kelsey plump what passing the blame memes in a terrifying image of Kelsey plump face match with Hank you got the ball oh Shit, this is Hank's list Hank's list. It's our list. We generated the list together, but we did yeah We talked about I mean this is a tone setter probably not a draft you really want the 1-1 But our first pick is going to be Conair. Mmm. I feel like that's a good movie. Great

Awesome. It's a really but you think about the plot of the movie. It's bad. Give me back that bonnet. Yeah, that's a 68% I'm Cameron 58% Po tomato meter this is That's a good movie Okay bad, but I that's that's that's way higher than anything I guess way higher than what I had everything way lower. There's so many better Nick Cage movies, too Yeah, I'm from out of some well well Yeah, there's better than a cage movies, but no there was no way bad like that's a good Nick Cage movies these these this movie rocks The movie there shouldn't be a popcorn on like any of these

All of ours are in like the 20s. Yes, we're we we looked up our critic score and yes Nothing is touch is 50. No, most not even the Lordies. Yeah, 20s and 30s is where we're living as well, but it's okay if you guys want to go that route. Yeah. All right. We'll go with our first pick. We're just talking about him. Kangaroo Jack. I told you memes. I'm happy that memes and I were memes and I were battling over this and he was like, it'll be there in the fourth. It'll be there in the fourth. Yeah. No.

I'm happy that you guys were before us and we never, I would have been devastated if we lost. We thought about going to all Jerry O'Connell movies. We can't go Jack. It's a bad movie but it's fucking good. I like it. 9%. It's such a hilarious movie like premise.

When we have Jerry on at the end of the summer to our fantasy We got a DVD commentary. Yeah, not only DVD commentary, but be like what when you got pitched this Like what went through your head right away? Well the movie isn't even about a talking kangaroo That's like one minute that they decided to make the entire trailer And then I wanted to go see and they're like what the fuck this kangaroos not talking to Home he looks hot. He does look hot in that we should do a movie review of kangaroo Jack Yeah, which oh at parcel camp yes, oh Oh, we've got one of those inflatable TV. Oh yes

Yes, that would be great. That'd be great Okay Me you guys have two picks all right first pick I'm gonna. I think Hank's gonna take this Yep, you don't mess with the zone. Oh It's on the list phenomenal movie one of my favorite movies It's but that's so bad. It is so it is the dumbest most ridiculous movie

That's maybe ever been made, but it's great and Then we'll go scary movie too. Mm-hmm Jerry O'Connell, that's good movie. What do we do here Zack? Do you like four I like four scary bit who is a 13% compared to 60% of con air by the way who like who 58 Yeah, I mean con airs a good movie It is what do you yeah, it's a good movie. What are what is your comedy? This is Zack this is Zack's pick because Zack loved this and I completely 100% back him up because I think it's a great pick But he's like I love this movie 60% of D minus like

Yeah, but it's that's Connor's like I actually go like I actually if you told me conner won an Oscar I'd be like yeah, that makes sense Fucking awesome movie great cast all right rip it Zack you love this movie. I love this movie I love that you love this movie. We would like to take Paul Blart mall cop I like that. I like that thing Zack when we were in our pre pre show meeting he was just like what about Paul Blart? And I was like fuck yes, dude. That's a bad movie. I say but it's so good I say peanut Blart and jelly all the time

All right, what do you got next Shawshank? We are going to go with the rocks San Andreas. You pick a terrible terrible movie blockbuster block going on. Nothing good. And then we'll go Adam Stanley. This was it. There's there's two Adam Stanley movies I think memes would agree that fall in this category of their they're they're bad He's gonna take the other one that we should have taken. That's my boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah We could be we I thought we'd say we were gonna take in the first good pick Hank. Yeah, you shouldn't Where do we go from here's I knew

There's there's a couple pivots there's a couple pivots There's there's a couple pivots There's a couple pivots Anything anything sticking out to you right now. I mean we so we we went where we go Kind of heavy comedy we have my the problem is I have I have a list of bad movies That probably no one has seen because it's like all action like I'm heavy in the Jean Claude Van Damme world. Heavy. Should we do one of those? If you don't think it's too niche, we can rip it. I mean, I all right, I'll do it. Bloodsport Bloodsport is a bad movie. It's the acting is so fucking funny and but it's such a good movie. I really enjoyed it. Yeah. We did a watch. Yeah. Covid

it is. And also the best part about blood sport is it's a the guy completely fabricated the entire story. Yeah. He just made it all up. But like some of the action shots are so funny the slow mo. Sean Claude let's just say not the best actor. Really good at action. Really good at kicking. But he's not exactly the best actor, but yeah bloodsport alright I feel good about that Zach I mean it's one of my favorite movies and I know that like if you had if you put it in front of a critic They just like what am I watching right now? Can I say true to ourselves? Okay? You guys are up

Number three this is probably one of my favorite movies of all time What do you yeah, you got to pick your think? Yeah, you gotta pick your movie. I'm going Not Another Teen Movie. Ooh. I love that movie. It's so funny. That movie sucks. Yeah.

Memes quotes this movie all the time. It's so funny. Like thinking I know all of the quotes of Not Another Teen Movie. Like he, it's like legitimately his favorite movie. He's a spoof movie guy has a clear like cinematic memes and that's kind of like all that it just watch it for me

and then the last one for bad good movie do you want to go this one or that one uh... for fourth and final book will go norbit who on Fourth and final we'll go with Norbit. Never saw Norbit. Oh it's so bad. It's so bad. It's so so bad.

I had a friend in college that used to like watch it like once a month and I would literally yell at him every single time it was on but I would watch. I would watch Norbit. Ah Zach what are we thinking? Talk to me buddy. But I would watch I would watch Norbit uh Zack What are we thinking talk talk to me, buddy? Oh? three or five Those are those I was leaning towards those which one did you like more? Five five could play but also five could be a terrible pick. It goes one way or the other. Oh

man What do you think I don't know I don't know what to do we're stuck You got to go with your guy. I want you to go with your gut sack. Okay, so bad that it's good No, it's the best bad movies best bad movie. We're gonna go with the B movie. There we go. Okay, okay Is it too good of a movie not a bad movie bad movie it's about it's about a beam falls on the woman it also was like Jerry Seinfeld's like big thing that was like Jerry Seinfeld's back I honestly just assume any animated movie that I've ever heard of has like a 98% no I've never seen B movie no it's it's bad like that scene it's

bad at 49% and 53% audience score is bad especially for an animated and Jerry Seinfeld yeah yeah yeah that's I like it that's bad but it's so bad it's good yeah right I I'd watch it again I'm actually gonna watch with my kids I'll do that all right we got the last pick we're gonna go romantic comedy I still don't understand how this only has 10% raw and tomatoes couples retreat mmm okay that's a good one that's a good one this will be interesting I don't know how people are gonna vote con air is definitely the best of those movies it is I don't know no Han Norbert's pretty good. No. No, I'm saying the best I know I know Like real but well, that's what happened

Was was was kind of hard. We didn't know exactly where to go. Well, so here's let's let's I was I was thinking Well, me and Peter talking about were like movies that Are always on TV that aren't great, but you're sure like oh, this is I'll watch right so yeah So there was a couple that I I I had that like I thought would be too contentious But like when you looked up at the critic score They were really bad Tommy boy is really bad. We talked about Clam I know it is but it's like yeah, it's bad But all Adam Sandler movies are bad, but some of them are good some of them are just bad

Yeah, the Zohan and that's my boy are the perfect bad good Adam I told memes that we couldn't do water boy cuz it's yeah, no We had yeah like water boy was on on our list Has 90% Is black sheep black sheep look up black sheep yeah, that was just Tommy boy too, and it wasn't as good Yeah, then another one cuz we were like we got into a rabbit hole. We're like alright Let's just list some movies that might not be critically acclaimed mighty ducks got like a 27% I say I'm not a ducks, but like that's just too good of a movie we had we also had kangaroo jack

We had commando on our list okay, Schwarzenegger. Yep, probably that's the pinnacle of like bad Art of movies. Yeah, but it's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just rip my I'll rip my Jean-Claude Van Dan's damn Steven Seagal Action movies I blood sport hard target Cobra with sly Stallone Hard to kill out for justice best of the Best 1 and 2, Best of the Best 2 is incredible.

But they're all Lionheart. We're about double time cop. Double team, it's Van Damme and Dennis Rodman. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Face Off. Face Off, we talked about that.

But that's also like kind of a good movie. Anaconda. Under Siege I looked up and it actually has like a really good Hitting does it on rotten tomatoes under siege to probably I under see you guys probably 20. Yeah under siege. What was under siege? Yeah, 83% that's unreal here. I know I was shocked With Joe dirt, yep, I now you chuck your Joe dirt is a mess. Yeah, Joe dirt's a really Yep, I now you chuckle. Larry Joe dirt is a mess. Yeah, Joe dirt's a really Joe dirt. It's a solid movie Yeah, now turn their dirty work. You guys ever see that movie work. So fucking fun. So funny. What about Euro trip? Euro trip what about Super Troopers?

God, it's a great movie though. So you're fast movie beer fest and Euro trip I were I I didn't I don't want to go to like good movies back to back We did that was semi-pro we said semi-pro we had it on our list and out of integrity. We're like, that's too good of a move No, all right It's a or you probably would have been a good blades of glory is great. You didn't fumble Zach stop Zach just texted me on the side saying I fumbled. No, you're good. I shouldn't have gone with beam We don't know how and I was sidebar. But yeah, I did we were thinking about going sharknado Yeah, blades of glory great reviews. You know, but like Sharknado was like, it was almost like made to be so bad, it was

almost like too meta. So you did fine. That's, B-movie was a movie that like Jerry Seinfeld did like legitimate press for and like went on Larry King and was a big deal. Sharknado was meant to just be bad on, cause we could do a whole other thing like made for TV movies the the the Drew Peterson You know why they call me big daddy Rob Lowe mm-hmm one of my favorite movies, but it was made for TV

two for the money Two for the money. I don't know if I've seen two for the money. It's too funny story. Oh, yeah Yeah with Matthew McConaughey I have the accountant The accountant all the accounts a good move. Yeah, that is a good There's a lot of things like if a movie gets a sequel Yeah, then it doesn't deserve to be on the on the list. No movie to Piranha, I don't believe so no another Jerry O'Connell movie bench warmers. Yep

Good movie. Gooders. Yep Good movie Yep, I said undercover brother. I looked it up. It has phenomenal reviews night at the Roxbury Bad no, that's a class. It was kind of fun. Yeah, I mean it was Comedies are tough. Yeah, I Was saying to PFT as we were doing this if we really want to get people fired up we should do worst good movies oh Movies that that are known as being great that we fucking that's a great. Yeah, we should do that. Yeah Yeah, they'll get very angry ah

The Nick cages I would have gone were Gone in 60 seconds and yep writer., go to seconds is like a great movie Yeah We thought about fast and furious But we didn't know which one of the of the entire anthology would have been the best bad movie of those maybe Tokyo Drift But that's what treasures good. Yeah, I know it again though. I know fashion because There's a bad so many of something then they can't be that bad the fast six. That's the one you're looking for That's also because there's good movies like I was actually I threw on for honorable mentions like Rocky 4 which is an unbelievable movie

but like Obviously when you watch that movie part of you is saying like Sly Sloan is not the best actor I thought you're talking about Rocky 5 Rocky 4 is bad rocky 5 is bad correct rocky 4 is a good bad I Honestly think the right answer for this would be rocky Balboa the movie rocky Balboa It's a bad. No the rocky 5 probably is the answer again. I love rocky 4 It's one of my favorite movies, but it's like slice alone. It's not a great actor rocky 4 is an awesome I know, but when you watch it sober Disagree, slice loan has some funny parts where you're like, what is he doing?

I think what this draft has showed us is that we just we love bad movies Yeah Yeah, I love all these movies cars to Cars to cars to sock with snakes of a Paul Newman dies that Newman died and they change They can't play would have been a great change everything snakes not played anaconda. Yeah, we said anaconda. Oh, yeah Thanks on playing with thanks on it. Do you know what's a shocker? Cuz I was like we made our list and then I was like, let me just look up like what the biggest differences on

Boondock Saints got killed. Yeah, I didn't know that. A lot of those like a lot of those comedies are like like Euro trip. Yeah. Boondock Saints are fast. Six percent on the critics score but 91. Yeah. I mean it's a good movie. Yeah. Euro trip. Your trip is a good one. That's kind of what I'm thinking of. Like what's the if it has the pop like the the popcorn next to the popcorn then it then it's a good movie I also don't understand Rotten Tomatoes what's the is it road trip yeah that's a good one too like a good bad movie out of paddle they went to Austin Austin Massachusetts yeah Freddie got finger ready got Freddy got fingered. Freddy got fingered. Tom Green's the best. Freddy got fingered sucks. That movie is fucking horrible.

I like because I like that guy in Road Trip. I like tried to watch that one night and I was like this is legitimately the worst movie I've ever seen. Max? Kornacki? This is impossible to judge. I have no idea. It really is. I have no... Like... Who would you vote for Pft kind of fucked fucked me up with the You fucked him up before before speaking no before this when you were like will people be like Why is that in the bad movie category? That's a good movie?

I'm not that's where I feel like con air might yeah screw you it might oh I have no idea. I have no idea Mean memes literally like we picked because that's why I pivoted to Zohan cuz I love that's my boy Boys but that's my boy I was so excited for that movie, and I still like to rewatch it, but it was I rewatch that movie so Disappointed I first think I was I I had that movie like when it was coming out I guess to me the greatest movie of all time it is I just thought of a big miss that we had For being football guys Oh draft a

Shit 80 for Brady 80 for Brady would have been a good one for you hang. What was the Kurt Warner one? Oh, uh fucked the code that movie was good I like that movie American underdog story. I watched that on a plane. I was like, you know what I'm inspired Let's see what the draft was on Rotten Tomatoes any guesses? I'm looking at American underdog first American under look at those ratings whoa 75 and 95 and 98 damn a draft against 60% Oh, yes, you good. Yeah, it's too good All right good good we stay true. We stay true. We stay true. Yeah, I don't really know what I was saying there Okay, good Mount Rushmore boys also anyone who has ideas for Mount Rushmore's tweet at memes

Yeah, tweeted memes pardon my memes Best one gets mad and code. Yeah. Yeah. Best one. Get the best memes. So best one gets a free DVD of kangaroo Jack. Sent to sign by Jerry. I hope he has like a whole closet. He probably bought them all. That would be awesome. OK, let's get to our interviews. We've got Baker Mayfield and Alex Caruso together. Very, very fun. And then we have MLB commissioner Rob Manfred. Before we get to Alex Caruso and Baker Mayfield, they're brought to you by BetterHelp.

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Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests. It's a combo, a little cross sport combo. We did this last year at Chill Week. This year it is Alex Caruso, Baker Mayfield, two friends of ours. Thank you for joining us, boys. I have the first question is easy one. Baker, would you say Alex has one ring, two rings, or one and a half rings or zero or zero? No, you have one. You,

you officially have one is the one is the lowest baseline. One's the lowest. Yeah. He's got to bubble too is to count the bubble. I count the bubble. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's one. And I get to LeBron questions. Yeah. All right. All right. So Alex, you win the championship. You made it. These are the two mandatory questions. I was mandatory questions. You win the championship. You make the comment after that you now have officially have a real ring.

What was going through your head in that moment? It was, it was at us. You were part of the conglomerate of people I was talking to. Yeah. It was, it was a little bit y'all. And were you surprised that people took that seriously? Yeah, dude, they got so, they got so pissed. I was like, all right guys, like, let me have a little fun. It's bullshit. We're addressing the internet. Yeah. Yeah. I tweeted too. I was like, I already had three Michelobes. Like we were a couple of champagne shots. Like we were, we were, we were riding,

we were getting to the top of the roller coaster. Like I was saying, whatever I thought was, was good at the moment. Yeah. Congratulations. Congratulations for real. Yeah. Was it harder than you thought it would be in the finals? Yeah, I would say yes.

But also I knew it, I knew what it was going to be like Indiana, we knew how fast they're going to play. And like they were sneaky, aggressive defensively through the playoffs and nobody was really talking about it, but like they were, they were really physical. Like they played exactly how we played fast on offense, physical on defense, try and get a bunch of people in double digits.

Yeah. I'm happy you guys were together because if we're interviewing you guys together, because Baker, I was thinking about this. And a question I was going to ask you, you thrive off of people doubting you, but I feel like no one doubts you anymore. Like you got the new contract, you had a Pro Bowl year, you were awesome this year, you're tough as shit,

just running over people, making awesome plays. No one is like Baker Mayfield isn't a really good quarterback. Everyone knows you're a really good quarterback. So are you, oh, okay. So how do we, how do you stay motivated? Do you go and search and be like, I got to find who's hating so I can get a little chip on my shoulder? No, I don't, I don't look for it anymore. Okay. I had enough 49ers fans yesterday talking shit to me. So we are out west. We're a Niner country at this

point, so I'm good. But do you feel, maybe it's that they just keep switching offensive coordinators for you. They keep getting head coaching jobs, man. Yeah. I don't know if I smell, or they just keep leaving me. That's a compliment to you. You're helping the promotion. Was there a small part of you, though?

And we interviewed Liam Cohn at the combine. Great dude. Was there a small part of you, though, that went to Duval? You're like, all right, now let him. Yeah, get him. Crushed him. Crush there a small part of you though? The one that Duval you're like, all right now, yeah, get him crushed. What are you doing? So I'm trying to be the cool guy. Just do your job. Be a head coach. Be the figure. I don't know if they want that culture. Yeah, that was a good, that would probably felt good in the moment where you're like, yeah, you left me, but now you have to deal with like the head coach spotlight.

Yeah. He's, I mean, he's a great coordinator. I'm interested to see how it goes. Yeah. We still talk all the time, but he's a great coach. So we'll see how it goes to the head coach. Yeah. Dealing with me as a head coach is just, regardless of sport, it seems like the job isn't worth it. Yeah. I have to talk to the media every single day.

No, thank you. Yeah, no. Every word that you say, there's a magnifying glass on it. People find something wrong, no matter what you put out there. It takes a guy that probably does not give a fuck to be a head coach and be successful at it without reading into it. The last season, though, very impressive season.

Unfortunate final game for you guys. Sorry about Jaden Daniels and the commanders. It was awesome for me. Did you? When there we go, there's some doubt. Yeah. There's some doubt for you guys. Sorry about Jen Daniels and the commanders. It was awesome for me. Did you when when uh there we go there's some doubt. Yeah there's some doubt for you. You'll my fire. Yeah when when when the commanders got the ball back at the end of the game we were like fuck they're not giving us this back. Yeah I mean at that point you could kind of feel the momentum out of it. Um we just offensively didn't play good enough and it was one of those days like we had we were averaging I think damn near 30 points a game and we didn't even come enough. And it was one of those days. Like we were averaging, I think, damn near 30 points a game. And we didn't even come close to that.

Just too many mistakes. But we got a lot of the boys back, all 11 starters, and then some on offense. And so it made some additions. I'm excited, though. Do you look at last season, is that, I know it sucks the way that it ended, but do you look at it like that was a successful year?

I mean, no. I mean, the goal is always Superbowl or nothing. It was, I mean, you check off the boxes on your way to try and get to the Superbowl division playoffs. But then after that, if you don't do anything, the playoffs really doesn't matter. Yeah. All right. So combo question. You guys both kind of play the game the same way,

scrappy, undersized. White guys? White guys. White. Hard working. Hard working. Lunch fail. Yeah, lunch fail.

Hard hat to walk in, clock out, first guy in. Blue collar. Jim White. Jim White. You guys that you want to date your daughter. Are there ever times though, like Baker, when you run someone, when you're like, I'm going to just run someone over,

or Alex, when you, I think there was the moment in the NBA finals when you were literally trying to swim on the floor to get a loose ball. Do you ever have a moment where you're like, maybe that was a little too try hard. Like maybe I should just dial it back a little. I think y'all asked me this before the finals. You remember we had a conversation.

You're like, do you know you're try hard? Yeah, I know I do for sure. And yeah, look at me. I'm not built to be in the NFL. Yeah, we can't be supposed to try hard. Yeah, we can't be cool dude. If you're cool, it's not gonna work Cool for me is a losing. Yeah. Yeah, so keep trying extra hard Oh, yeah, does anyone ever anything after like being like hey, that was a little much it chill out. Yeah Maybe on chill week, but yeah

You know, it's funny about that They did that when I was a young player in the league like whenever I was like on two way and like just getting into The league because like I have like eight minutes to prove myself and it's like some 10-year vet who's like, you know It's the third quarter. They're up 20 and they're like, alright guy. What are we doing? I'm like, hey, I don't have any money right now I'm not in the league. Like this is this is what I'm gonna do Yeah, when TJ McConnell was out there and you you're watching him play ultimate tryhard TJ. You're like dude, did that make you think about yourself? Like, wow, is this what I look like? Yeah. Yeah. No, I I me and TJ. I

think I told you all the origin. We're on the same summer league team in Philly. So, we had like a nice kind of similar path coming in and we text each other every year when like you do something like you go into a game not supposed to play well and then you just kill all off of effort You text and really do that was that was said you imagine how fundamentally sound that summer league team was yeah Great handshake line after the game. Yeah, I contact but that but TJ McConnell like in the finals They're imagine a summer league team slapping the floor But the way he plays it does fuck guys up because he gives like I know it's you can't give 110%

Technically, but he does like he would just like if he's just jumping every you know inbound pass 90 feet from the basket it messes you up. Yeah, you got to make up for the like we said the the white guy Yeah, I can athleticism, but that you guys do that and Baker you do that too where it's like most quarterbacks will slide It's like no, I'm going to fucking run this guy. I'm going to run through his face. Does it, do you have to run through someone's face to like kind of wake up in a game? Do you have to get hit first?

Sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. It's got to feel good. It feels real nice. And I mean, real nice, real nice. Yeah. Next day.

Till the next day. Yeah. I'll deal with that on a Monday though. Yeah. I think I told you this last time we interviewed you, but the first, I think it was your first game, maybe second in Tampa Bay, maybe against the Vikings. Yeah. I think I told you this last time we interviewed you, but the first, I think it was your first game, maybe second in Tampa Bay, maybe against the Vikings. Yeah. You ran through some guy's face and then your entire sideline like jumped up. And from that moment I was like, I think these guys are in love with Baker Mayfield. Cause I was bricked

up. Yeah. Do you ever get just like a little rush of blood? Like you hit somebody, a little, little rush of blood blow the belt line. Never heard anybody. Yeah. So in the finals this year, game one, you go out, could you tell that the logo wasn't on the court? No, I didn't even remember that. That was a thing. I'm not going to lie bothered us because I be being on the court. You don't like it's a TV when you look at it. It's different than being out there. They do need to bring that back though. They do.

It's so good. The big one in the middle of the court. Yeah. And congratulations by the way. I think game seven, like a good amount of people watch. So you guys, cause I know you guys care a lot about the ratings. Yeah. That's how we get paid. So yeah. Yeah.

It's important. Baker, you got to be like, when you see ratings worse, do you even, do you just, you got to laugh at it because they always do the like top 100 watch sporting events and it's like 99 are football and then one is like the Olympics and it's just like football's king. It is run the world. I mean, they just keep expanding. I know took Christmas. I mean, it's, oh, they took Christmas. No, no, no. Christmas is Roger Goodell's now. I don't know if you knew that Christmas is it.

We're the Grinch. Yeah. We'll just wait till. Yeah. Yeah. We'll just wait till our star break. Yeah. Yeah. Christmas is theirs now. How sweet was the championship parade? Oh bro, it was so sick.

It was so sick. I drank way too much, naturally. I think I was asleep by three. PM? Yeah. That's awesome. That's fantastic. Yeah.

She was taking, she was, she's in the back. She was taking care of me. It was, it was short-lived. Yeah. I slept from like three to 11, woke up for like 30 minutes and slept from like 11 to eight. Yeah. Actually, one of my questions was, how are you live right now?

Because you went, won an NBA title. Yeah. Bachelor party. Yeah. This past weekend and now top. Got in the Sunday sauna sauna Monday night. Yeah. And then flew here Tuesday evening. How are you alive? A lot of water, a lot of water. Shout out body armor. Yeah. A lot of water, a lot of water. We have a

parade. I had to be nuts though. Yeah. The parade's sick, dude. The parade was so sick. Yeah. What time do you wake up on the morning of the parade day? When do you crack the first drink? I think I took my first shot of tequila Eight we had to be at the we had to be at the facility a 15 to get on buses Yeah, I took one of my buddies who stayed back. He's like, oh, that's what we're on. I said, that's what we're on Yeah, that's gotta be cool seeing fans out there just as drunk as you are So I don't even know if they were to be honest I I remember everything that happened like the details of what the people were feeling. It was all player one main character.

That was all I had. Yeah, Baker, I've seen a lot of Baker Mayfield jerseys out here in Tahoe on the course waiting to see you play. A lot of like throwback ones too. A lot of Oklahoma Baker Mayfield jerseys. When you see somebody that's wearing like an old jersey, like a college Mayfield jersey, are you like, hell yeah, that's a real fan.

Like I appreciate the effort. Sometimes yes. You can tell based on the interaction. Sometimes it's somebody trying to be a cool, grab a retro jersey. Yeah. It's the try-hards, you know? Yeah.

But I can relate to them at the same time. You see yourself in them. I think as a fan, when you're figuring out which jersey to put on, you're like, well, I might seem to, I'm going to wear like an obscure one from way back in the day. So we stand out. Yeah. Because I'm a real fan. Yeah.

Try to catch the eye. I do love it though. It's fun. If I told you guys you have one thing that is like very much in common, what would you think I was about to say? What's that? What? No.

Oh. I actually think you have very much in common. We both played Texas high school football. OK. Yeah. That's true. I was going to say Mike Evans. Yeah.

Oh, I was going to say that earlier when he was talking about the team. Yeah. Mike. So let's just talk about how awesome Mike Evans is. It's unbelievable. He's, I mean, did you feel a little bad about getting the 1,000 yards with the Saints in that whole situation?

I hate the Saints. Absolutely not. No. but if, I mean, we had already, we were making the playoffs situation where you take a knee, go to the playoffs, but we decided to throw it on first and 10. Yeah. Just to get Mike to thousand yards and like that reaction in the stadium. Yeah. So I will try hard. But he is the best. We, we, we always like, we'll have moments in the NFL season where we're

like, Hey, we're just going to randomly on a Monday, just be like, Hey, everyone needs to just respect Mike Evans because he's so good and he's been so good for so long. And he's not flashy. So like he goes under the radar a lot, but I think now it's starting, the tide's starting to turn for him. Like people are realizing his hall of fame resume. Yeah. First time I met Mike Evans, I played against him in a you at Texas A&M in the rec center and he was dunking on everybody. That was the origin of Mike Evans. And we both ended up in A&M and I was like, Oh, okay. It makes sense now. Yeah. Still wears like the old Nike elite socks, like his old basketball, long gym shorts, like down. I mean, it's,

it's my house. Yeah. That's, that's what that is. Yeah, also hard players respect him The the opposing teams respect him so much the Saints were like, yeah, you can go ahead have this record on this catch That was very cool. Yeah, I'm sure that was their mindset Yeah, yeah nice people since we have you guys here with the NBA NFL debate always happens Do you guys think you could play each other's sport? I suck at basketball. So no, okay There's a select few from each that I think could cross over. Give me a couple names. Like from mine that could go.

Yeah, and then you give me a couple NFL guys. Bron could have, Anthony Edwards could. I'm trying to think of like. Draymond. Lou Dort could. Lou Dort, yeah, fat ass. Draymond could probably play O-line. You just have to put on weight.

Great screen setter. Athletes. play O-line, you just have to put on weight. Great screen setter, you know, smart athletes. I think one of the Thompson, the Thompson. Oh, they're freaks. Yeah, that kind of athlete, you find a spot on the team. Find a spot on the team. Yeah, what about you, Baker? Have you played with guys who you've like seen hoop and you're like, holy shit.

I mean, Mike's one of them. There's a couple receivers there. There's a couple receivers that are supposed to be really good. I can imagine, like, I shit. I mean, Mike's one of them. Yeah. There's a couple receivers there. Saquon, there's a couple receivers that are supposed to be really good. I can imagine, I don't know if AJ Brown has a shot or not. Yeah. But that's a big man. Yeah. I know of some like, O linemen that were really athletic

and like they struggled to keep the weight on. Like between the D linemen, Miles Garrett's one. Yeah. Yeah, Miles Garrett, I mean, I've seen him. Yo, can you put this? Yeah. Yeah. Miles Garrett, I mean, I've seen him. I've played basketball with him. Yeah. Yeah.

But this is actually the perfect answer because this has always been the answer where they have the debate. And it's like, there's probably like five guys from each side. I don't know if they would have enough finesse to be able to play basketball. Yeah, that's the thing with like, for football players to come to basketball,

you have to play both ways. And like for the guys that are like, I could play and then there's the guys that are like dunking, shooting threes. It's like, well, you got guard and you got to be able to remember like what the hell is going on and doing this. It's like, it gets a little tricky. And then you talk about the basketball guys who want to football. It's like, you're going to get hit in your mouth a lot. Yeah. Like you see, you think that's, you think that's like, Oh yeah, I could handle that until it happens. And you're like, Hmm. Yeah.

I don't know if I like that so much. Yeah, that's true. There's an element of toughness that, that I, I think some guys could pick like DK Metcalf. I think he could probably also make the switch to, to NBA. So I'm saying like, there's certain athletes that could just find minutes in the NBA because like there's guys in the league that can't shoot or like can't do stuff but they can

rebound the hell out of the ball and they're like dunk and put it like you can play 12 minutes in the NBA if you're a good enough athlete. Right. Who's a who's a better golfer between you two? That's a good question. How good are you golf? Right. Alex? Yeah. I'm like an 11 handicap. I'm a little better than 11. Yeah. This guy's probably what? How much?

Six? Five? Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. That's probably it. One summer I got down to like a 2.7, but that was just a crazy month. We're not there right now.

I haven't played golf this summer. I'm still pissed that the Bulls traded you and also got no picks because you don't get picks for anything. But we have a golf simulator in our office office and Alex a couple of times where we were literally working and he would just be hitting shots. Oh, that's awesome. It's like, yeah, it's right there. Yeah. And we could have taken all the credit when you one day win this tournament. It could have. We could have.

We could have started like a little sponsorship or something. Yeah. Or like a YouTube vlog and like building up to it. Give us a cut. Maybe post career. Yeah. Oh, you want to cut? Yeah. Yeah. We'll just give us a little bit. 10%? Yeah. I don't know if that'd be 10. Baker, maybe you give us a cut for your new contract when you sign another one. You think so? You think they helped you get there? Well, allegedly they have. I don't know if they've ever lied to me. So yeah. Maybe whoever runs the main account at Barsel Sports should get a cut because of the doubting. Yeah So I don't know if you guys ever see headlines But when the main account puts it out a lot of times me and big cat get shit for that

Yeah, because it's like they think you guys yeah We'll take it. That's our job to be a shield. Yeah get a text and be like, what is this? I'm like, dude, I don't know. They're just trying to get numbers. Yeah, what do you want me to do? Yeah, I retweeted it numbers. What do you want me to do? I retweeted it. Whatever. I liked it. I laughed at it. I dared the guy to tweet it. You put the line in the, in your, in your header. It's like all retweets are not. Yeah. Endorsements. Yeah. Mine are. Yeah. Mine are a hundred percent. Baker. It's just whenever, if you lose the game, they just play you dancing from the Oklahoma video. That's yeah, that

sounds right. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. By the way, is there anything as a, you went to a school that went from Big 12 to SEC, Baker, you just went Big 12 to SEC. Do you want to give him any tips? Cause it's not going great for Oklahoma football right now.

It's not great for the fellas. Yeah. I don't know how to, cause we went in, we had Johnny right away. So like that was like, you know, that was kind of a nice crutch to fall on. We haven't been very, not to that level since. So better crew better get some, uh, some, some good guys into the team.

The difference from what I can see is O-line D-line. The D-line SEC is just bunch of naps like man-childs. And then O-line Oklahoma hadn't had a, they're all fast. As good of an O-line as we used to have. Yeah. You do have a dude this year though. John Mattier. He's awesome. He's one of the boys.

I tried to get him to go to Wisconsin. Like I had phone conversations and it was just, and I ran out. He's so I was going up against you. So I out recruited you. Did you bring in JJ Watt? I brought in JJ Watt. I didn't do that.

Okay. Didn't help. Didn't he walk on? Well, Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. So you've been playing in serious football in real life. Yeah, it's tough to be, it was tough to be like, Oh, uh, what's happened to Oklahoma in like the past 15 years. They have all these Heisman's and also as OC went from Washington state. So I'm rooting for him no matter what I told him that after I was like, dude, I'm not going to be like a loser here and be like, oh, fuck you. You didn't pick my school.

I want him to. He's awesome. Yeah, sick. He's got some shit in his neck. Yeah, he's kind of like a little like a little mini mini Baker. I like him. Yeah. Yeah. I also appreciate the fact that you said that you hate the Saints earlier. I like it when athletes admit that they hate other teams like Robert. Do you have like a list of teams that you absolutely hate? Texas yeah, you guys both hate Texas. I sure said that was a great one. Yeah Warns down

Bunch of losers that felt really That's not adult hate fans and Cowboys fans are very similar. Yeah, a lot of them the same fans. Yeah, you know, they're the same people. Yeah, they really are Hey, what about coach Doug's we're gonna get another? Yeah. Oh, yeah, we'll be back. Yeah, I can't wait back Yeah, I'm playing some playing some college ball for sure. We're gonna start online online Dynasty League Uh, I got time. I should oh, maybe we should like up we should do that. I'll be kicked my ass, but I'm bad at that I mean well you know I suck it man Heisman, right? Yeah, I play it's hard. They're not it's not easy I also got a staff and I also spam plays. Yeah, you do you do bigger. Do you ever spam plays in real life? I Don't know what you mean like you just find one play that one

Over and then the AI doesn't pick up on it. Everyone in the chat says you're a loser. Cheap play, cheap play, fuck you big cat, you piece of shit. Does that ever happen to you? In like a two minute drill, yeah. I didn't realize that's, yeah, I didn't realize I was going up against AI, but yeah. Yeah. You spam and then be like, oh yeah, if it works, I'll yell at the bench, run it again out loud. Yeah. What's your, like what's your, what's the play that you've

spammed and you're like, it just, they can't stop it. Um, like we run one play where it's just like a flat ball stream. You put the worst defender in it and she has the ball. And it's like, if we're like, if our off, if we hadn't got a good shot in a while, it's like, all right, let's give them VP the ball. Yeah. Get this like slip screen out of the way. And you put the bad defender and if they, if they fuck it up, I'm just like hey let's run it again yeah and again and eventually they'll change it now we can get back to our real offense yeah that's

kind of sucked to be hunted in the NBA like some of those guys they just get you on I was that guy when we first started and then I like transitioned into the guy that got taken out of the action right and so now it's like you better you better have some nuts if you're going to be called into it. Like you better just stand up and put your, you got to, what do we say, run through someone's face. Equivalent of that in the NBA,

if they call you into the ball screen, you better foul the shit out of them. You better do something good. Cause if not, you're going to get put right back into it. Your defense stays up because you're like, I'm not going back to being the guy that got hunted. We're not going back there.'s a bad we likes being embarrassed in front of 18,000 people that can't be the weakest link no no and everybody in

the arena knows well majority of them know oh that guy's not good that's why they're putting him into the like put him into let let LeBron let Shay let whoever it is go with that guy yeah yeah no one likes that feeling Baker how awesome is Bucky Irving he's's the man. His name is also very fun to say it is like to yell great name football name. Come on Bucky. Chicago guy too. Yeah. He's he's he is. I mean he's full energy all the time. He's all ball though. Doesn't do anything else. He's just he's 22. Yeah. It's wild. When did you

know he was a dog? Like this is this is a guy that we can lean on. I mean, talking to him, you could tell his mindset he was, but then in practice, when we're not going full to the ground until a game, you couldn't tell how many people he was going to really make a miss. Some people would get in front of him, but in a game, they're not touching him. So, I mean, it was hard to tell until our first game.

I wonder what that feels like as a running back to where it's just me and you distance away. It's like, oh, you're not going to touch me. Yeah. Good luck. Yeah, that's probably amazing feeling. That's probably a sick feeling. I mean, it's got to be similar in the NBA where you like get one on one. I don't know that feeling. Yeah, you don't know that. I don't know that. Some guys, some guys really like, oh, I'm about to cross this. Yeah. Have you ever called like ISO, like everybody back up, I got this guy. Yeah. One very, very limited. Yeah. Very few times. Did it work out? Um once or twice. Usually it happens like when the best players don't play and so it's

like I know I'm going to get a bunch of shots this game. Uh huh. So all of a sudden your confidence and your imagination gets a little and then you tell them to run it again. Yeah. Yeah. And then I so like, hey, it's me. That's the best part. If I'm the guy on if I'm playing point guard that game, like we played against the Suns late in the year. I had a great game. I had like 27 points, bunch's me. That's the best part. If I'm the guy on if I'm playing point guard that game We played against the Suns late in the year I had a great game had like 20 some points bunch of assists and we had a we had a couple of plays where I

Was like I I vividly remember I was like come screen for me I'm about to go do something and I scored I was like, that's the best feeling ever Yeah, what's it like to be on a heat check, you know, okay, I can't shoot a basketball. So I can't I don't know yeah, no, that's a fun feeling, where you just like, every time you let it go, you feel like it's going to go in. You got to have that feeling though, when you're in the passing.

Yeah, when you're ripping it, and you know it's like, you know exactly where the ball is going to go on time. That's probably the same. Yeah. It's more like, for me, it's more like visually, like seeing the field extremely quick and clear. Anticipating. Yeah, and then at like visually, like seeing the field extremely quick and clear. Anticipating.

And then at that point, arm takes over, but like it's more the mental aspect of it for me. Are there weeks where the prep, like when you get on the field on Sunday, you're like, oh shit, I'm like really ready to go because I know exactly what they're doing and I have all the answers. That's got to feel incredible.

That one feels incredible. There's been a few times, like every time we played Cincinnati when I was in Cleveland, I felt like, all right, I'm about to have 300 yards at least. Yeah. It's a great feeling. It bangles a lot. It was good. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. All right. I know you guys got to run in a second. I'm going to do one last question, row back question, rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. And I'm giving my last question to Zach, who's a massive, I was wondering if we're going to get a appearance.

He's a massive bucks fan, not a big intercourse guy. Yeah. Uh, he's didn't see that. Where he said he wasn't a speed. Yeah. Uh, he, we've, we, we speed run ran, uh, where he said he wasn't. Let's be, yeah. We speed run ran his interaction with you, Baker, earlier. And he ended up inviting himself on your boat. OK. He also. That's sick.

That's sick. Didn't go great. Yeah. Do you want to go do karate in the garage? Yeah. Karate in the garage? Yeah. You karate guy?

I could be. You got room for activities in there? So much room. We can run that. OK. All right, so Zach, the floor is yours. Big how are we doing today, my man? Fantastic.

Great to see you. I just want to say I appreciate everything you do for the city of Tampa. It's so awesome seeing you out there on the field. Just quick questions. Are there any outside of football, any passion products or hobbies you would look forward to spending more time on later in life?

Ooh. Honestly, it's the golf game. The golf game. The golf game? Yeah, I would love to see how low I can get my handicap, but right now, not exactly the time for it. Fair enough. I love that answer.

Golf, great sport, super frustrating. And then if you're cool, one more, is there like a, so like a comfort meal after game or pregame that you dive into that's like your, your one, one of like, you know, this is just going to hit just right. Oh, post game. If you just said no, no, no more questions. Is it time for one more? No.

Pre-game, no. It always depends on the time of the game. After the game, a lot of carbs. Carbohydrate? A lot of carbs, yeah. Love that. Because it's just like, you don't, I'll have breakfast, say we're playing at one o'clock,

I'll have breakfast, pretty standard. And then I won't eat until 6 p.m. So it's- Mac and cheese? Yeah, mac and cheese, chicken tenders, wings, whatever it is. Yeah. Zach, do you have a follow up question?

I mean, you were talking in fast forward right there. Oh, my bad. I can start now. Oh, you're good. No, no, no, I can hear it. Is there a, so- That's true. So Heisman Trova, we keep that in.

Man cave, mantle, at the house, different spot. Bachelor pad, where are we keeping that? Bachelor pad, he's pairing with a kid! Second apartment. Oh, I beg your pardon. Uh, man cave. Yeah, man cave. Man cave?

Sweet. You got a secret apartment that people don't know about? Where's your bachelor pad? When are we going to kick it? Hit him. So Zach is a recent hire at Barstool. He's electric. So why are you a Tampa fan?

So I'm from Lakeland, Florida, which is like central Florida. And now the Bucks have just my whole life been a Bucks fan. Yeah. So he got to, he moved to Chicago, moved. He does actually the first time he's been west of the Mississippi.

So we're Zach is experiencing the new. Yeah. But he, when he moved to Chicago, moved. This is actually the first time he's been west of Mississippi. So we're Zach is experiencing the new, yeah. But he, when he moved to Chicago, his apartment was right across from McDonald's and he gained 18 pounds in the first three weeks. Tell them what you ate for dinner every night. This is what you should do after the game. Both of you guys. I was with you, Bigger.

I'm carb loading just like you. Comfort, carbs, it wasn't too bad. Just a lot of protein too. Right, double cheeseburger, you get two patties, a lot of protein. I appreciate you, big. I'm carb loading just like you comfort carbs. It wasn't too bad. Just a lot of protein to double cheeseburger. Get two patties, a lot of protein. I appreciate that Alex. Just a two double cheeseburgers, no pickle, little onion, two large fries and like 10 to 20 nuggets.

Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. It just continued to go. He always has the nuggets last. That's McDonald's or just carb load. Just we're on the same, both two Carblo and guys. And? And dessert?

You and ice cream? Yeah. You have a top flavor? Cookies and cream probably. Great pool, SGO. Bluebell, yeah. This guy knows cream. Bluebell.

I like Ben and Jerry's, makes sense. Maybe we'll have a pint or two of that. Maybe. Just two pints. Did you get an apple pie? I'm not. Uh, no, not a pie to McDonald's. Do they take open like walk-ons for the Nathan's hot dog eating competition?

Well, no, we actually did that earlier this week. Yeah. Not a great hot dog eater. He's not exactly. He likes to enjoy his meal. That's a sport thing. I'm more of like a pleasure guy. Got you.

Yeah. I got you. Well, okay, one question. What's your favorite West Mississippi? So what's your favorite aspect of Lake Tahoe being here for a couple of days? The mountains look unreal. Like it doesn't feel like we're on,

it's like a foreign world that we're in. Like we're just dropped. Like elevation like this or any kind of. Not at all. And like there hasn't been a cloud in the sky whatsoever. We're just on a different map. This isn't, this isn't the earth. This is something I've never seen before.

This place is not like most out here. It's it's a little paradise. It's yeah cooped up It's wild. What about yourself? Do you have a anything in Tahoe that you enjoy? Golf free golf golf as well. Yeah free golf like that. That's nice. All right. Good job Zach. Great job Yeah, great job. All right Baker Alex. Thank you boys. We appreciate you coming on This is a lot of fun and good luck this week. Thank you. Just appreciate it guys We appreciate you coming on. This is a lot of fun and good luck this week. Yes, you do appreciate it guys The boys were brought to you by Mountain Dew it's summertime the mountains are calling it is baseball season You're gonna be heading out to the boat. You're gonna be going to the river might even be going fishing and

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Thank you so much, Mr. Commissioner. What would you prefer to be called? Mr. Commissioner, Rob, Bob, Bobo? Rob would be just fine. Okay. Well Well appreciate you coming on. We have we're trying to collect all the commissioners anytime a commissioner is offered to us for like we have to do it because obviously we're big sports guys and it's very important. Let's start with though a congratulations for an incredible all star game. I would say

MLB is the last sport that has an all-star game that matters and the swing off was great. Are you using the swing off maybe in the future in maybe some regular season stuff and how would you assess the whole all-star game? Well, let me start with the all-star game. The entire four days was fantastic for us. It really was. You know, we had a great home run derby, really exciting, great attendance at play ball park, which you know gives people that don't get into the stadium an opportunity to participate in the weekend. And you know the game, although they got out 6-0, turned out to be a great game and I loved the swing off. I thought it was really exciting, it was crazy in the ball park, really, really exciting. Having said that, you know,

I don't think people need to worry about home run derbies at the end of regular season games, at least not for right now. I mean, it's not something we're talking about. You know, we went to it. The all-star game is, you know, different obviously than a regular season game. It gives us the ability to let the managers use all the players during the nine innings. You know, you hate to have guys come all the way to the All-Star, you even did not play. And you know, frankly, for the fans, it's a really exciting way to end the game. Yeah, it was. And the swing off was incredible.

But when I was watching the swing off, I couldn't help but think, what if the home run Derby was built like the swing off where we go back to the format where you get a set amount of swings as opposed to the timing have you given any thought to changing the format of the home run derby yeah we're going to we will um regroup with the spn and talk about the format of the home run derby it's one of those things that um you know because it's an exhibition um you can it's easier to change the rules. You know, there's a variety of considerations there. You know, it's so fast now.

We wanted to make it faster, but it's so fast now. There's some complaints that people can't even see the home run, you know, because the next one's coming so quickly. You know, look, I don't think people appreciate how exhausting it is for the players to take that many swings that fast. So it's something we will talk about. I did think that the home run derby was a lot of fun to watch.

I think maybe the biggest reason there were rumors going into the home run derby that maybe older guys like Christian Yelich were going to play. And America does not want to see that. So that was a great decision by getting the young guys that we don't need Christian Yelich in the Home Run Derby. I think we should just make it a rule, like under 30 years old, Home Run Derby only, because we want to really, it's young stars, it's a showcase. You know, I can't tell you the exact number now.

I had it in my head and I've kind of lost it, but a lot of the guys, young guys that were in that, they're so motivated. It's a million dollar prize. I mean, it's significant. When you're making many millions in a year, it's not quite so important, but I do think you get from the young guys, they get excited to do it. It's an opportunity for them to get real exposure. You know, the prize is worth it, you know, significant to them. So I take your point about the young guys and

look in general, our game is so young right now, you know, I mean, guys are coming into the big leagues and making an impact really a lot faster than it used to happen. Yeah. I don't know if you could fix this. I've heard you talk about it where you guys had a strategy with your media where you had a place where everyone went to go watch MLB and then you realized, Hey, we got to go where the people are and we're going to let the clips be out there more. Um, is there any way we can work on, uh, games getting blacked out in certain areas? Because I know there's a lot of fans that struggle with that. And it's like, I just want to watch the game. I feel like I pay, you know, to be able to watch every game. I want to be able to watch the Cubs when I'm not in Chicago, but I also want to be able to watch it on my phone when I'm in Chicago.

So is there a fix for that? Yeah, look, I mean, remember there's fans talk about blackouts. Number one are at the top of my list in terms of things we, we, we need to deal with. And there's really conceptually three kinds of blackouts, right? You know, there's a club has an exclusive territory. They have an exclusive deal with usually a regional sports network. And for some reason in an outlying territory, that regional sports network isn't on every cable provider. Okay, that one's a tough one for us, right? I mean, because there's a contract in place, there's exclusivity hard to deal with.

The second kind that people talk about is that just that a lot of RSNs don't have full distribution, even in the core market anymore. And again, that's something we can work on. We're working hard on it to make sure we've taken over five clubs and four of those clubs tried to make sure that as many cable providers

as possible have distribution. And then of course, the last one is national exclusivity. And we have a lot of national partners right now, right? We obviously the big one, Fox and TNT, TBS, but in addition, Apple and that has some exclusivity. And we are going to make an effort when we redo our national deals to be a little more streamlined,

fewer places that have games so that fans can find them more easily. we are going to make an effort when we redo our national deals to be a little more streamlined, fewer places that have games so that fans can find them more easily. I appreciate that because it really is as simple as like everyone just wants to be able to watch with the without jumping through a ton of hoops. You know, the game is the most important part. Correct. You listen and look, the ideal and you know, I gotta be completely clear about this. We don't get there till 2028 because that's when our national deals are up.

But ideally, where you would like to be is if you have a digital home for baseball, you can go there and buy what you want to buy in market, out of market, however many games you want to buy. And if it's not there, it's on one or two maybe national outlets that most people have, right? You know, that that's where you'd like to get ideally.

I think, yeah, that that would be a great place to end up at. Right now we're, we're after the all star game. We saw the use of the robot OMPs. I know that you grade out the umpires major league baseball gives grades to the umpires depending on their performance. How would you grade the robot that called balls and strikes during the All-Star game? Yeah, you know, I'm big on ABS. You know, I mean, I call it the automated strike zone

system because, you know, we're still going to have a human umpire behind the plate doing his thing. But look, the technology is awesome. Calling our umpires do a great job, but look, calling balls and strikes is tough for any human being. And I do think that the challenge system is kind of consistent with the idea of incident replay. Give us a chance to use technology to get it right in high leverage situations. I do think that in 15, 20 years, we're going to be looking back and saying, I can't believe

that we had human beings with their eyeballs trying to determine like a span of inches on guys throwing a hundred miles per hour. It is a hard job. I mean, it is a really hard job. Will you at least give us, if you go all the way to robots, will you have the ability for the robots to eject managers and pitchers? Oh yeah. I mean, look, one of our principal considerations really, you know, I know you're being funny, but the fact is we really do want to, um, maintain the role of the home

plate umpire is the guy that manages the game. Um, you know, you saw it. He's got an earpiece in his ear. It doesn't look very different than the regular game. And we think that's important. Yeah. Yeah. I know that there's a CBA coming up. You guys are in discussions, the owners and the union talking about what the next iteration of baseball from the financial aspect is going to look like. A lot of people have talked about the salary cap floor in exchange for the salary cap. Is that something that you feel is going to happen in the next CBA? Look, you know, I spent most of my career collective bargaining. And one thing I've learned is making predictions in advance

is a usually not accurate in terms of how it turns out and really not helpful to the process. I will tell you this. We have a ton of fans that feel in a lot of markets who feel like their team that they're passionate about doesn't have a fair opportunity to compete. And at the end of the day, we sell competition and we need to be listening to those fans. Yeah. So another, another thing that bothers us from our point of view and when we do the show, we try to stick up for fans. Is there anything that you can do when you have ownership and I'm not going to name specific ones, but they're not

specifically trying to put out a winner year in and year out. Like it's clear that they're not trying to compete for championships. I think it's such a disservice to a city and a fan base when that is happening. And I don't know what the fix is. And it might be just an impossible question, but it feels like there's got to be something there or maybe get them out and get someone in there who wants to spend the money to try to put out a winner. Yeah, you know, let me say it this way. I think it is usually a mistake to focus on the owner when it appears that the owner isn't trying. Okay, it is usually a product of the system in which you're working. And

I do believe that it's incumbent on us and the union for the sake of our fans to create a system where the incentives to always appear like you're doing the most possible for your fans to compete is a really important goal for both of us, everybody involved in the game. Yeah, I think that you do have conflicting interests sometimes because you've got the reality is that in baseball, you don't have to spend money to make money if you own a team, right? Over the course of the years, the value of your team, it's going to go up. Uh, if history has taught us anything, you're going to,

it's a very sound investment that you're making. Uh, you don't necessarily have to put the payroll out there to have a winning product to be successful as a businessman from the ownership perspective. So Big Cat and I have actually tossed around a couple ideas of what could happen. Maybe you have three years in a row, maybe let's go five years in a row. You finish in last place in the division, the owners then have to sit in the cheap seats with the fans for the entire season and get to deal with them face to face. Well let me say this, let me go backwards.

It's important to really, particularly when you get into a bargaining year, that people understand what's really going on in the sport. With respect to franchise values, and this is a fact and it's a surprising fact. The slowest growth in franchise values of the four major professional sports over the last decade has been baseball. And that is in large part due to the perception of a lot of fans that you're talking about where they feel their team doesn't have a fair opportunity to compete. I think that when you see a situation where the fans feel, you know, gee, he's not spending, he's not spending, usually this is the thinking that goes on. You know, I'm making money on my operations. You're in and you're out, pick a number, I'm making 20 million bucks, right?

So the owner goes to his analytics guy and it says, you know, look, I can put another $20 million into payroll. And the analytics guy tells him, look, the expectation is with $20 million more in payroll, you're gonna win two more games because you're, and that's it, because you're going to win two more games because you're, and that's it because you're still going to be $150 million less than the big boys. That's the conundrum that those owners find themselves in. They don't have the capacity to spend, to get close enough to make themselves more competitive. And we need to fix that for the benefit of

the fans in those markets. But some of those owners just don't even try. They won't. They'll be like, oh, you could tell me I could get 10 more wins and I won't even get, you know, I'm just going to go and put my product out there and make my money. That's where I get frustrated when it feels like those owners aren't really actually putting the full effort out there. Yeah, you know, I can't tell you that it doesn't look like that sometimes. I can tell you, it is the very rare circumstance where an owner doesn't want to win. I mean, the fact of the matter is people don't buy these for business, you know, just because of the business or to make money, they buy it because they want to compete. They want to deliver their community and winner. And, um, you know,

we need to get them within a structure where they have a better opportunity to do that in all of our markets. Maybe, maybe a test when you're thinking of becoming an owner, a ball, Noah's test, how many home runs is Barry Bonsack? You know, give them a standardized test. If they don't know the sport, they don't get the team. Just have them throw, just have them pay, like just say, Hey, throw me this ball. Yeah. I just want to see what it looks like. Watch the form. Look, I don't want to defend my guys endlessly. I will tell you this. The level of baseball knowledge among our ownership group is unbelievably high.

Yeah. But can they throw? Can they throw? Yeah. Well, that's a different issue. Well, there we go. Maybe that's what we got to do. I can't throw. You know, what are you want me to talk? Yeah. Uh, we got some dumb, we, we, we love dumb ideas. So we're just going to throw a couple at you. Uh, you could just say no, but you know, some of them might, might be interesting to you. Uh, have you ever thought about the ceremonial first pitch counting? No. what do you think about that? Well, usually I think when I think about ceremonial first pitches, um, I have to say, I think I'm like a lot of prudent first pitch throwers. Yeah. Just don't want to embarrass yourself. Right. Right.

But think about it like 50 cent or the president or Beyonce. They are pitching to a live batter and the first pitch counts. What do you think? I have to tell you the only one on that list of three that you listed president Trump has assured me on more than one occasion he can throw a hell of a first pitch. The other two you run your own. Okay. I mean George Bush had maybe the most iconic first pitch of all time that should have counted as a strike. Yeah. Yeah President Bush is was actually a player in college and is a pretty darn good athlete Yeah, so we're curious when we actually do have one more dumb idea for you. I have a couple more. Okay, the bases

Have you thought about making them even bigger? well, yeah, that's interesting I have to tell you that bigger. Well, that's interesting. I have to tell you that the bigger base idea of all of those rule changes, like I got the clock. I understood why we were doing that from the very beginning. The shift thing, I got that too. Get people where they're supposed to be and you're going to get a little more offense. I really like the bigger base thing. I'm like, what my guys came to me with that. I'm like, what the hell are you guys thinking about? You know, but you know, in some ways, it's been the most exciting change in terms of making the running game such a significant part of the sport

again. Yeah, I was right there with you. And then somebody just explained to me PFT, they're bigger. And I was like, Oh, okay, I get it. Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, they are You know you think about it. They're not I mean the difference in size is not so much But man, it has really made a difference in terms of where the games play. Okay, another dumb idea This might be where you start looking at the guys behind the camera and you're like, why did you set me up with this interview? Just hear me out though. No bad ideas. Can we be in the trust tree? No bad ideas. Okay. You got, I will not be overly critical. How

about that? Okay. Perfect. Uh, steroid month. Oh, just one more. You said it though. You said it was the trust tree. I understand. You know, look, let me say this. I understand that people like to see home runs and you know, because of my professional experience, I understand that steroids work. I'm a hard no. How about that? Yeah. Okay. That's fair. That's fair enough. All right. That's fair. What if steroid month was October? Yeah, that's true. I mean, now we're talking about ratings. All right. What? Back to back to real questions. What's going on with the balls? I don't understand. So I don't, I don't buy into all the theories of like their super juice this year, but it does feel like there is a difference year

to year. Is that something you guys are actively trying to figure out? Yeah. So let's be clear about this year. The only complaint that's been made about the ball this year is that it has more drag, which actually makes it harder to hit home runs, which kind of doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense when you look at who's leading in the American League, particularly those two, right? I mean, a lot of home runs being hit. So, but here's the problem. Our ball is handmade. I've been, you go to Costa Rica, they're made in a factory, they are literally hand sewn, right? It's leather, all natural materials, hand sewn.

Year to year, there will be variation with a handmade product. They're just, it's like the human you know, the human condition, right? Can't be perfect. And you know, we test them extensively. We have a range within which they fall every single year. And we've actually gone through a process where we've tightened those ranges

and taken more control actually by investing in Rawlings in making sure there's no changes in the process to minimize the differences year to year. Will that issue ever go away? When you work in the game, as long as I have, you know, there are certain issues that are never going away. You are always going to hear about the baseball, no matter what we do. Yeah, no, that's true. That is absolutely true. The baseballs will always be a story. I'm curious. Whenever we talk to a commissioner You are the second commissioner on part of my take

I always want to know what what does a commissioner do on a day-to-day basis? Like what's how much of your time has spent putting out fires versus meeting with rights holders? Versus talking to ownership like way a normal day at the office for a commissioner I think of about my job kind of two silos, right? On the silo that I think of as the governance side, that's regular communication with ownership, franchise transfers, disciplinary matters, collective bargaining. That's literally breaks down. That's about half the time.

And then the other half of the time is what you would expect from somebody that runs, you know, central businesses, a $6 billion business. It's you know, media rights, licensing problems, just the everyday running of a business that generates that kind of revenue. Do you have time to watch all the games? Do you watch baseball every day? I watch a lot of baseball. I grew up a Yankee fan.

I watch a lot of Yankee games still. I try to balance that off by equal time with the Mets because I live in New York, but most nights I'm flipping between Yankee or Met and the extra innings package to follow what's going on in the rest of the league. We have a, we have a coworker who's not going to like the fact that you said that you watched more Yankees and Mets. Yeah. He has dubbed you Rob man fraud. Do you have any comments

on that? Yeah. You know, that's a clever plan. Frank to take, listen, you should do a walk with Frank to take. We can get that set up. It would be an electric, electric interview. Are you familiar with Frank the tank? Yeah. You know, look, yes, I am. I am.

You know, I actually, I, and I honestly, I'm getting old. I sat behind, um, right behind home plate at city field, right in back of two of your colleagues who were big Mets fans. And I can't remember who it was. It might've been Frank and Stu, which is like, if you can, if you can sit behind them, then you're good. Like you pass the test. Can I tell you something? So here's the thing. I'm a beer drinker. You know, I try to do it, not necessarily sitting in a ballpark for obvious reasons. I'm telling you, these two guys put together a collection of empty cups. They're really, I mean, it was impressive.

Frank, maybe if it was like, yeah, Frank is on that good, clean label right now. We did, we chatted back and forth and you know, the whole thing. And I can tell you who I was with I just can't remember the two guys names, but it would they were impressive The the biggest complaint that Frank has had is that you he says that you don't love baseball. Do you love baseball? Can I tell you something when you spend you know? I started working on baseball first as an outside lawyer for 10 years and then working here since 1988. I have done one thing in my professional career and that's worked in baseball.

And you know, some days are good. Some days are great. Other days are really, really hard. And if you don't love this game, you don't want to do this. Are you still romantic about baseball? Absolutely. Absolutely. I'll tell you, you know, there were a couple of things

the All-Star game that, you know, kind of you do get almost emotional about, you know, I was down in the field before the game and I was watching Joe Torrey, who's worked with me for years and years back in uniform as a coach went over and chatted with Joe and he said a couple of things about what he was thinking that I have to tell you just really stirring. I mean, it just makes you feel great about the game and how important the game is. And the Hank Aaron moment. That was another one. Unbelievable. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely unbelievable. You know, and, and for me, you know, I've known, I knew Hank and his wife, Billy, for a long time. He and Commissioner Seelig were very

close and so I'd see him frequently at special events. To me, the most emotional part of that was watching Billy during that. She's a great woman and it was a great tribute and just really emotional to see how she reacted to it. Yeah. I got a real question about the Frank know, the, the Frank we're joking with the man fraud thing, but although he does call you that all the time, but how do you, uh, kind of compartmentalize and deal with that where you're getting booed or people are blaming you for everything? Because I think it is one of those things with the commissioners of all four sports leagues where there's, yeah, some things you can disagree with, but at the end of the day, their job isn't really

to be liked and they get killed a lot. And that's kind of part of what you sign up for Can you like does it does it affect you look anybody truthfully anybody who tells you it doesn't bother them They're probably not telling you the truth. Nobody likes to get booed. I'll tell you a funny story. So my Seven-year-old grandson went to the draft He said right in the front row and there was two funny things about that. You know, when you come out and you see this little kid that you love dearly, you know, he's clapping his hands off the boost. Don't Maddie as much, but you know, he came in the next morning and I was sitting having a cup

of coffee and he said to me, you know, Papa, there was no booze last night. I said, George, you got to be booed up. If you didn't hear that, you know, that's a good grandson. But look, you know, it's part of the job. You know, you understand that, you know, people want to express themselves and you try not to pay too much attention to it. You have to be thick skinned and accept it for what it is. Yeah. Is that something that you guys are going to be talking about in the next CBA in regards to the draft? The idea that it's not always the best player or the player that most teams have at the top of their draft board that will get drafted in the top positions, you know, because of how you get slotted in with how much money you're expected to sign for. Yeah. It feels a little bit disjointed

from every other draft that we've seen where it's, you know, you, you take the best player with the top pick. Yeah. I think, um, that there are aspects of our draft that have gotten away from a really, really simple, but important concept. The team that was the worst last year. She would get the best player in the draft and there should be nothing that interferes with that correlation, right? So, you

know, if hard slots are what it takes to make that happen, that's what we ought to do. Um the lottery thing, I'm not sure that it really affects behavior of teams in any meaningful way and you know, sometimes you get into these situations where the team that was the worst is picking further down in the draft than they ought to be. I'm a believer, you know, every 30 picks a team should have a pick and unless they've traded it somehow and that the worst team should get the first pick. Yeah. All right. This has been great. Thank you so much, Rob. I got one last question. It's the road back question. Archo B a C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first

purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. So, so awesome having you on, you know, you're always welcome to come back. My last question is, uh, do you think the 50 50 raffles at each stadium are rigged and how the hell can I win it? I don't think they're rigged and I got nothing for you on that one. Oh, come on. All right. What about this? Can we get, can we get some gold cards? Listen, here's the thing. Oh, gold go cards. You got to earn. Yeah. All right. Go cards. You got to earn. Yeah. All right. Listen, guys, it was fun to be with you. I'm glad I had a chance to do it. We'll do it again. I'm sure.

All right. Thanks so much. Sounds good. Appreciate it. Take care. All right. See ya. Okay. Good show, boys. We got anything else? Football's back. I'm just so happy. Football's back. Hank, football's back. Say'm just so happy balls back Hank football's back. Say it back Football's back. Say it back football Is want to say it just say it's not you don't even like it is. It's disgusting. It is sad that we're like

This is the best it gets for you. Like this is the best Hank. We got What it's true that means you're? You're happy with your personal life right now? Yeah, you have golf and it's summer and then as soon as when we get our happiest, you are like blah. That's good though. It's like cycles. It can't all be on the same cycle. It'd be nice to have everyone be excited about football. I was super excited about football for like six years. Who's your college team going to be this year? I don't know. Yeah, you and yeah. Oh, you and see, dude, I need an update of every UNC game from you done. Not that you have to watch them. Don't sorry Washington. You're out. Yeah. It was fun while

it lasted. Oh, isn't is ACC media week this week might be does Jordine get her own booth she has to yeah did she has she reached out about the take ease anyone so a lot of people were reaching out appreciate everyone who won an award who did RG 3 ever say anything about it I did not see anything from RG 3 no Kiper was fired up what he posted on his story said thanks for the award no No shit. Yeah. He has his Instagram? Mm-hmm. Wow good for Mel. Jerry says football's back. Jerry just downloaded all his fantasy apps right now. Breaking news, football's back. Oh football's so back then. Football's so back.

Okay. Oh Hear that click. Let's talk about something else for a second pug. How was your weekend? Pug how was your weekend? Did you just happen I tapped in once what you just where did it happen? What was the number you gave it three fuck nine nine Said there wasn't a 90 91 pug Damn it. What are you doing dude? He's the big cat stucking in. He's stucking in numbers. What's the number? 91, pug. That's fucked up memes.

He had headphones on too. Yeah, he did have the headphones on. I was getting ready to answer the question and then... That's what he does. He gets you off guard and then you don't know what to do. That was messed up. They take your number and then I take yours. 60.

To chain reaction. 91, pug. I told him I was playing offense for him. Need more offense. I'll go with 21. What's your other number, memes? 6. I got a bunch of them.

6. 77. 6. All right, I'll do 6. 26. What do you got, Shane? What happened? 18.

Shane? Oh, PFC took your number? 85. I said 60. Oh, yeah. Wait, no one took your? Oh, PFC's a huge number. 85. I said 60. Oh yeah, wait, no one took two- oh did Max take 21? What the fuck, Max? Joel M.B. dude. Chain reaction. Motherfucker. This is both? We just can't let memes ever win with three. That's the thing. It's like if three ever comes up, which it never will,

it has to be someone else. Memes, if you win with 99, I think we all agree it's bullshit. Ooh! That looks like 89 to me. Oh my God, that's back to back times. Should have picked 89. Oh, you picked 89 bro. Love you guys. Sorry memes So So I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back.

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