Pardon My Take - Baylor’s Jared Butler, CBB With Tate Frazier (And Mark Titus) Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

Baseball opening day and April Fools has lost its fastball (2:27 - 11:05). NFL talk and Final Four preview (11:05 - 25:12). Baylor’s Jared Butler joins the show to talk about making the Final Four, Defense, and Calling God after hitting a big 3 (25:12 - 45:23). Tate Frazier joins the show to talk about Roy Williams retiring, the future of UNC basketball, Titus sitting next to him in the car and talking about Mike Woodson at Indiana (45:23 - 72:50). We wrap up with Fyre Fest of the WeekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Baylor star, superstar, Jared Butler, ready for the Final Four on Saturday. Talk to him. We also have Tate Frazier of Titus and Tate Fame, diehard UNC basketball fan, also college basketball analyst, so we're going to talk to him about Roy Williams retiring, and the

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was obviously serious with COVID, no one really hit it. Some brands did, so Volkswagen hit it with the Volkswagen, saying it's going all electric, so they're changing the K to a T, and then I'm pretty sure Hank's hot seat cool throne of Michael Strahan, I'm pretty sure that was in April Fools, wasn't it? Because we even said during the thing, we compared it to Anthony Davis saving the Unibrow as in April Fools. But has he come forward and said April Fools? I don't think so, I don't think so. I'm still category, I'm just going to pretend that Michael Strahan has gap teeth,

I'm uncomfortable with it. The best one that I saw, the only one that made me laugh. Also, it was two days before. Yeah, well, you know, getting when people can't get got. DJ Quick had the best one by far, he had on Instagram, he posted, I'm on my way to the hospital, someone just shot into my car, seven to ten times on the freeway, I got hit twice, pray for me, and then the next Instagram story, four hours later was, oh yeah, April Fools.

I forgot to add that second part, that's awesome. I like that one. That's a great one to be like, hey guys, just kidding, I'm not dead. Wasn't there an NFL player a few years ago that said that they got a DUI, and they posted like a thread apologizing for it, and then they came back and said April Fools? Like the joke was, I got arrested, I blew a .20. The old Marshall Henderson social experiment, Billy did get got on April Fools. He actually came in and the first thing he said to me is like, seen any good April Fools?

I got my, I'm high alert, I know that someone's going to try to get me, but I'm not going to get got, and then maybe five minutes later he announced to the entire office, Julian Edelman's going to the box, and I said, Billy, what did you just say five minutes ago about April Fools? He's like, shit, got, got bad. So this is, it was Bruce Irvin. It was Bruce Irvin when he was on Seahawks. Here's what he tweeted out, this is 2015. Before this hits the media, I just want to apologize to my fans and the at Seahawks

organization once again. I made a terrible decision driving after I had a few drinks. I will do everything to get your trust back and we'll become a better person out of this. How many of y'all thought I was serious? Haha, April Fools. I love it. Those are the real April Fools jokes that I can go for. Yeah, I like those.

The ones that are a little too serious. There's also, my other favorite is when a brand creates something, but it's actually just a really good idea. So I saw Culver's Restaurants did the Curder Burger, which is just a cheese curd inside of patties or buns. I was like, wait, that shouldn't be a joke. You guys accidentally joked on yourself because I want that on the menu. Yes, I'm a little disappointed in brands this year because you had two full years

to cook up these April Fools tricks and you didn't. Although I kind of look at April Fools like a lot of drunks look at St. Patrick's Day when they're like, oh, it's a amateur hour. Like when you lie 365 days a year, you get pissed off at the brands coming in and try to act like they run the place one day. Right. Like leave the bits to us guys. Yeah, it wasn't, you know, there was nothing really great with anything Jake that you loved because you are the wholesome one on this show.

No, I didn't see anything that stuck out to me when I tweeted about Roy Williams, who were like, it's a joke, bro. You fell for it. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to get out. We're going to get to take with that. I don't think that's a joke. I think he is actually retired.

Yes. Would be funny if he. Well, the press was actually in four minutes at 4pm. Oh, wow. See what he says. Yeah. He's probably going to say Dan Gommick. Dan Gommick.

Kind of started. As if he walked in and did the locker room, like little dance thing. That would be incredible. He's going to Duke. April Fool's. I got four or five stars. Just signed him. Boom.

I'm back. I love it. Yeah. It is opening day and I've got, I have a confession to make. What? I'm doing an experiment this year. I've decided. To watch baseball.

To own a fantasy baseball team. Oh, I am the proud owner of a fantasy baseball team and a zero dollar a year league on ESPN with random people. You're really going to care about this. No, I am. I care. I did my draft last night. I got Juan Soto is Juan Soto no matter what on my card.

And I am the seam head express is coming through. That's a team name. I am going to be a major league baseball fan this year. There you go. Just like of the entire league. That's awesome. Just of the stats. That's great for a league with no, you don't know anyone in no money.

It's almost more important to me that way. What do we think bet wise? How quickly till PFT just forgets he has this team? Three weeks. No, no, three or four. You want me to run? Run to my entire. Oh, we don't know.

We definitely don't need your time. Yeah. No, I yeah. As soon as you like, yeah, you're just going to miss a transaction or something or not start someone you should be like, or the fact that you don't know anyone. There's zero reason. Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean?

I don't know. No, no, you don't know anyone in the league. Yeah, that's almost better. I will respectfully disagree. I'm doing this for the love of the game. Usually playing fantasy. The only reason you play fantasy is to stay in touch with friends. Right.

Well, so I had some help doing my draft. One of my friends that I used to play rugby with in college, he was he's been in a fantasy league for 19 years. He's won five out of those years. But the people that started the league with him, two people in the league are now major league baseball general managers. And they went to the same high school together. Whoa.

And so he's like, this dude's legit. My roster is fucking stacked. I'm ready to go. I do love when people have their stats that they're ready to go. They're like, listen, 15 years, four championships, three runner ups. You could say that I know my fantasy. I've never missed the playoffs. It is impressive that he beat two major league general managers who currently serve in that

position right now. I would say it's semi impressive. But also like when you break down fantasy, usually the person who wins has the most time on their hands. Yeah, that's true. He's like he's bouncing around a couple of jobs. The guy who can be the most active on the waiver wire usually wins fantasy. Yeah.

I think it's made perfect for slackers. Like it actually evens the field when you play against real baseball. I think I also have to call it a rotisserie league. Yeah. Well, how's the scoring work? I'm not sure. This is too much about fantasy baseball. I'm not sure.

It's very complicated. So yeah, opening day is here. It's fun to do the tried and true. This guy's on pace for this many home runs. Season's over, you know, the good stuff. He's bringing it out for one day. It is fun to have. Opening day always does feel like a big deal.

And then you realize, oh yeah, it's just cold weather baseball for the rest of the month and it kind of sucks. There was snow in Detroit today. I love those early games in like Minnesota and Detroit where the weather is just awful. Just like shitty. It's the snow games and then you have a month where nothing happens. Then you have the fight and then you have a month where nothing happens. Then you have the B delay.

Then the home run derby. Did you see in the snow game, Miguel Cabrera hit a home run, but the ball got lost in the snow. So he thought he hit a double and he slid in the second. Oh, he accidentally ran fast around there. It was pretty fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah.

It was pretty fucking cool. And then Bryce Harper's shoes. Yeah. Clown shoes, bro. Although those don't. So when I first saw him, if you missed it, Bryce Harper is wearing the Philly Fanatic, basically a stuffed animal Philly Fanatic on both of his shoes. But it was the like practice shoes.

You know how like guys would do that in the warm-ups? He wasn't wearing them in the game. So he gets credit for just being very festive about opening day and Hope Springs Eternal and all that stuff. I was going to say that if somebody tried that in the NFL, Roger Goodell would call on a drone strike on him. Yeah, well, guys do it with the practice cleats because that's when they can express themselves. So I saw this one other thing that I'm very excited for this season.

The Giants manager, Gabe Kapler, he has a message that's written on his whiteboard in his office that says, win time of possession. So that's what the Giants are going to try to do. This year, they're going to try to control the pace of play and keep the defense on the field as long as possible. So they get bored. That's what Gabe Kapler's strategy is. It might work.

It might. He says like you can only have so much attention in a three and a half hour game. So putting them on defense makes it more likely that they're going to make an error. I actually kind of believe that. Yeah. Like old school Smash Mouth baseball. Absolutely. Play a little small ball.

Keep them out there. Then we also have NFL pro days are still going on. Justin Fields is now, he has been the anointed one to fall down draft boards for no reason whatsoever. I saw that there was a report. Dan Orlowski was saying, so he wasn't, Dan Orlowski was doing the old, I'm not saying it, but people are saying it to me, which I, when you do that, you're still carrying the water for the people and giving them credence.

And one of the points was that Justin Fields, they don't know if he loves football enough. The guy, Justin Fields, who basically brought Big 10 football back. Yeah. The guy that broke his ribs. He had, he had drew breeze happen on the field and then he came back like one series later and dominated. I do think, I do think Dan Orlowski is getting a little bit of a raw deal because it is one of those like one guy, one guy takes a quote, tweets it and then everyone runs with the

tweet without ever actually watching the video in the context, which that does suck. Like admittedly that sucks, but it is anonymous scout season where teams, I just assume whenever we see like Justin Fields slander or Justin Fields, it's a team somewhere in like the five to 10 range that's hoping that Justin Fields will fall to. Exactly. That's, that's obviously, it's smokescreen season. So if you have somebody from the Jets being like Justin Fields sucks, I'd stay clear. If you have like the 49ers being like, man, Justin Fields not going to take him, at the

very least, you can encourage somebody to like try to trade up and waste some picks behind you. Yes. But yeah, it's definitely smokescreen season. I've just decided that there are too many good quarterbacks. I don't know who to pick out of the lot. I think that I like, I think I like Zach Wilson, I think because if you want to talk red flags, not a captain.

Not a captain. We've talked about this, but it's very, very hard to not be a captain as a quarterback in college. You want to hear it take? It's almost impossible. You should have done with your quarterback bracket. You should have had Kyle Pitts winning the entire thing. I think Kyle Pitts should get drafted number one.

Yeah. Kyle Pitts. It's like with Josh. Game changer. With Josh Allen, you want to run through like the things that you have with Kyle Pitts. He runs like a deer. He is a chess piece mismatch and then he keeps opposing defensive coordinators up at night. Yep.

Those are the three things that he does. Negatives, his name is Kyle. Yeah. He does not look like a Kyle. No. But he, what do you mean? We have, we work. Describe a Kyle.

We work amongst several Kiles who look exactly like Kiles. Yes. Kiles are, Kiles are the, Kiles are funny dudes. Yeah. They're like Kiles. They're quirky. Yeah. I mean, they rage hard and they pound monsters.

They bang monsters constantly. Yeah. But they're usually. Are you talking about their love life? No. Usually Kyle will also have like the racing strips on the side of their car. Maybe the, you know, what are you going to say? Punch walls.

They have a mic in front of them. Yeah. They punch walls. Punch walls. They care too much about like a sport. They excelled at in high school. Billy's so into opening day that he's giving me the signs to steal home. Yeah.

I like it. I like it. With a mic in front of me. I like it, Billy. That's awesome. But yeah, I think like if you look at teams that won Super Bowls recently, you can go through the list. They all have dominant tight ends.

Is the tight end the new quarterback? Yeah. Because it seems we've forgotten about Gardner Minshew pretty quickly on the. They're game changers. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What else do we have?

We have, oh, the final four. Do we, are we expecting it just to be Gonzaga vs. Baylor? I think we all are. Right? Yeah. I'm going to bet on UCLA to cover, but I think Gonzaga is going to, it's going to be like a backdoor cover situation. Yeah.

I want, I want UCLA to win just because I like Mick. I like HEP. Somebody pointed out to me, it was, it was Jay Reich 511 on Twitter. We should be calling HEP, HEPC. Yeah. Actually, we did, we did a sports advisors and Rico Bosco said HEP's last trip and we're like, what the hell is he? Is he sick?

He's killing him. And then someone asked what's his name and I was like, it probably Hepatitis, right? That has to be it. Yeah. His full name is Hepatitis. His name is Hepatitis C. Mm-hmm. So, yeah.

The, I'm excited for the final four, but it definitely does not feel like the most anticipated final four. Let's just say that. It does not. And we're going to watch it. Yeah. The Battle of Texas and then Gonzaga vs. UCLA and hopefully Gonzaga Baylor happens on Monday night.

That would be, imagine if we get like, oh, Houston UCLA would be the lowest watched. Yeah. Well, no, because you got UCLA. You've got a big audience out there, Los Angeles. What time is the game? The game would be like five, prime, prime surfing weather, you know, rips and chews. That's four or five hours. Yeah.

Yeah. People stuck in traffic. There's an element of Rick Petino coached Mick Cronin. Yes. I didn't realize that. What a great job. Another feather in Rick Petino's cap. Basically his national championship.

Yeah. They went. Yeah. We're going to let him put the tattoo back on his shoulder if they win this one. That's fair to say. Yeah. It will be the games, Jake, you're a college basketball expert. How do you rank this?

You've been to a bunch of final fours. I've been to one final four. Oh. Sorry. I've been about to turn to make games. Bit to a final four. Yeah. Maybe, you know what?

No, no, no. But where do you rank this? If we get Gonzaga Baylor, I actually wrote a blog about this. It would be great for like inter-college basketball fans, but the casual sports fan maybe not. They won't set aside their time if it was Duke versus Kentucky in the championship. Right. Oh, I also, speaking of that, I have to walk back something I said on Wednesday.

So I got confused. Sweet 16 had crazy numbers. Elite eight didn't. Right. They don't keep the elite eight on Monday and Tuesday. Yeah. So we have some hope. Yes.

Well, in fairness to you, we had just finished the elite eight. They didn't have the ratings yet. Right. Thank you. So you just meant to say it was 16. I appreciate that. Thanks, Jake. Yeah.

I hope that they go back to the old way. But what happens if there's like a positive COVID test this weekend? I think they're going to delay the entire thing about it. The Baylor coach, the Baylor women's coach was like, listen, just stop testing. She said no one should get tested because if you get, you know what? Only the winners. Only the champions should have access to COVID tests. Yeah.

I do think, yeah, I mean, it would be quite a story. I mean, the Nationals in the Mets having to cancel the first four games of the season kind of sucks. Oh, shit. Do I have to bench one solo now? Yeah, you do. You're already behind. Fancy baseball sucks.

You already are behind. What happened in Max Scherzer? God damn it. What happens when, if there were to be a test, so you think that they would, they would delay the national championship on Monday, right? It depends. You know, it's in a controlled environment. I don't know.

Let's just hope. Knock on wood. Oh, by the way, Bill Walton never texted me back, but we did hear through his people that he wasn't allowed to come on because of ESPN. So, okay. Yeah. But whatever. It's fine.

No, that's really big. I got to talk that up. Be like, Bill Walton banned from part of my take. Oh yeah. It won't let us have these people on Noah. And then shut out that one AWO who tweeted me saying he saw Bill Walton on his bike and just screamed at him, go on part of my take. So just keep doing that and hopefully eventually he'll just, I don't know, end up in a bad,

you know, acid trip where he's like, I got to do part of my take. A really good acid trip. Yeah. Well, a bad one where he's like, just forgets everything is like, I got to do this podcast. Yeah. Yeah. And then we bring him back to the light. So then it's like, there we go, Bill.

We're back to the light. Anything else before we get to our interviews? Anything else? Anything else? Kittle, the prank too. Yeah. That was it. No, that was actually very funny.

That was the funniest one by far. Cause he's our friend. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone thought it was Jaguar. I thought it was Layers. Yeah. And he changed his, uh, Avi to a Trollface.

AVI. AVI. That's how you pronounce it. Wait, which Trollface was it? It was the OG Trollface. No, do you do an impression right now there's bad radio. Do the Trollface. Oh, that's good.

Yeah. Yeah. You got to pronounce Chin. Yeah. I like that. He was emotional at the podium and it's not an April Fool's joke. Is he crying? Oh yeah.

He is. That is really the saddest part is we're losing one of the all time best cries. So we can, we can get into this with Tate if you want, but I actually do feel like my take about him being a better coach than coach K has been vindicated at this point. How so? So by the stats, since he's been at North Carolina, so since he's been at North Carolina, North Carolina has five final four appearances. Dukes only had three.

They've won the ACC in the regular season nine times to coach K's three since he's been there. They've made the NCAA tournament. They've only missed it once. Duke has missed it twice, I believe. Yeah. Twice if we're counting last year. Well, okay.

Yeah. Okay. Well, they bowed out. Yeah. Yeah. But what about coach K having more championships and more wins? But since they've been, well, because he coached for longer, I think Roy Williams. Roy Williams is at Kansas.

I think Roy Williams has more, I think he's got a higher winning percentage than coach K does. Okay. But yeah, at Kansas, that was the previous iteration though, but you could also make the argument that coach K at Duke had Christian Leitner take him and essentially single-handedly won those two national championships. Without that one shot against Kentucky, it would be, people wouldn't talk about coach K the same way that they do right now.

That's what I'm saying. Okay. Roy Williams has been a better coach since he came to the ACC than coach K has. So it's just, it's not career. It's just defined as ACC. Yeah. I mean, you could make the argument for career, but I think in terms of the ACC, it actually is cut and dry that Roy Williams has been a better coach since he's gotten to the ACC.

Okay. That's not really an argument. Although, but coach K has more national championships than the ACC. I think that's, since Roy Williams got there, I would say, yeah, I think so, right? No. Three? So they won in 2010 over Butler, then 2015 over... Yeah.

No, North Carolina has three. No, they have two. 2005, 2009, 2017. Oh, okay. So he, all right. So wait, how many, how many... Coach K also won in 01, 91, 92, 01, 2010, 2015. So wait, how many...

That's before Roy Williams got there, right? Fair. He got there in 03. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's how many...

So we're just defining it as when he went to ACC. So how many titles does Roy have? Three. Three? And Coach K has five. Correct. Okay. But Roy Williams, that Chris Jenkins shot, would have been four.

Yeah, that's true. Or it was a tie game. But yeah. You could do that. Yeah. I know. Yeah. No, we should do that with Christian Langer.

Yeah. That shot missed. The UNC shot went in. Now they're even at four. Yeah. I mean, I hate Coach K, but I think his resume is still better than... Yeah. Gordon Hayward and Chris Jenkins switcheroo.

Four-four. Yep. That's it. There it is. There it is. Fantastic coach. All right. So, we have a new butler from Baylor who's playing on Saturday.

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Thank you to GoPuff. Okay, here he is. Junior, great player, superstar player, Jared Butler. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He's playing in the Final Four on Saturday against the University of Houston. It is Jared Butler from Baylor. Awesome to have you on. Congratulations first and foremost.

Pretty damn cool to be in the Final Four, especially given everything that's happened this year. So has that, what's the like plan going into the Final Four? Like, did you guys, the game was late. You guys finished the game Monday. Have you had like a second to let it all kind of soak in and be like, holy shit, this is pretty damn cool. We're two games away from immortality.

Yeah, totally. Like, making it to the Final Four is just a pretty cool thing, cutting that down like just a big hurrah or whatnot. And I think it's different for some people, like different people, they were like, even at the celebration, they were like, oh, we got two more to go. Like, you know, don't, they're not even happy at that celebration. There's other people that are just like, wow, we made it to the Final Four and kind of taking like a day and a half to get over it.

And yeah, so, but it's definitely important for us to like reset and be like, all right, we got to go time, especially today. I think today is probably like the last day you could ever think about it. Where did you fall in that spectrum? Were you like, were you celebrating? Were you going crazy or were you like, hey guys, stop, stop smiling. We got a game to prepare for. No, I was, I was one of the guys like, when I woke up, it like I was, I was over it.

So I think that was good. So do they, do they tell you how to cut the net down? That's always confused me because it seems like there are some guys that get up to the top of the ladder and they know exactly how to like cut down the net properly. So the next guy gets his piece. They don't give you any advice. I take, I usually take like a big piece. Like I try to get the biggest piece I can get, like, you know, and I'm like, I need to,

you know, I don't know, just put it on my hat and just have extra just in case. Yeah, that's me. I, they don't tell you anything. So I was reading an article about how, you know, you last year, you obviously were thinking about going to the NBA. You came back to Baylor, you worked on your defense and one of the things that you said helped was you were watching film in a different way. What was that?

How did you like, for me, defense always comes down to really effort, but you clearly got so much better in so many different ways. How did you do that? Yeah, that's a great point. Like most people don't watch film for defense and like, you know, they don't see different plays where they could have, you know, gotten a steal or like just a better technique. But, um, yeah, I was like, um, just, just me and one of the assistant coaches,

just watch film and, um, there'd be so many instances where I was like, man, I could have got the steal or I knew that that pass was going to, you know, come and, um, after just watching film, I was just like, all right, I'm, I'm not hesitating anymore. I'm just going to, you know, make the play on the ball and, um, and see ahead and watch film helps you do that to see ahead. And, um, yeah, that's, that's really helped me a lot this year. When you were growing up as a kid, were you, were you daydreaming about

playing in a final four? Like, because I remember when I was a little kid, I, I would think about like hitting the last shot, the buzzer beater, and there would always be like a particular play I would run. I do the countdown out loud, like three, two, one. Is that, is that something that you thought about growing up? Is there like a specific dream that you'd have or a play that you'd run in your own head, picturing yourself in this moment?

Yeah, for sure. I was always the kid that's like, I wanted to go off in the incident of tournament, like just have like, you know, just like 10 threes in a game. Like that was, that was my dream. Um, the game when it shot was like, kind of like, yeah, I guess everybody done that, like as did that. But, um, like, I just wanted to go off and just have like, you know, back to back to back to back threes.

And there's people just like, wow, like, you know, that was kind of like my dream. Well, that could happen though. On Saturday, how, how much harder is it to shoot in Lucas Oil Stadium versus the places you guys played your earlier games, you know, Henkel and, and all the other places that the games were taking place? Yeah, it's, it's, it's so different. Um, just the backdrop and, um, you know, how far the back wall is from the, you know, the, the backboard.

So it's a little perception change and it got to me. I'm not a lot of the first, the first game we played in the, um, in the Lucas Oil. And, um, but like at this point, I've, I've, um, I've like had to come overcome that and just be like, all right, like I'm, we're going to play on these courts and like this is going to happen. And, um, I've, I've been shooting better since then. So, um, yeah, I'm feeling good about it. Are, are you fully vindicated now in your decision to return to Baylor for another year?

Like, have you officially silenced the haters since you got to a final four? You're like, look, I made the right choice. Yeah. Um, I, I, I think I went to another level and saying like, you know, I, I came back to Baylor and now like, I don't play for people's, you know, vindication or validation or, you know, I don't play for people's, you know, um, opinion on me. Like at this point, I've, I've, um, become just that piece of just where I'm at in life

in my basketball career and who I am as a basketball player. And, um, so like, I think that's where I'm at. I'm, I'm, I'm over the like, you know, trying to prove the haters or whatnot. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's a double for you because you, uh, didn't go to the NBA. And also you were originally enrolled in Alabama, then transferred to Baylor. So you have like, I mean, I, I know that you never talked bad about Alabama,

but you watched that game and you're like, Oh, well, that could have been me on that, you know, court losing in the, uh, sweet 16. Yeah, totally. And, um, you know, but I think get them has done a great job this year. And, um, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a good feeling to be, you know, one of the final 14 bands is, it's amazing. Credit to you. You never talked bad about Bama.

That was nice. Good job. It was a really good political answer. That was a really good job by you. Do you like Alabama? No, I do. Um, the reason I left Alabama wasn't like some like, you know, nasty type thing. And then most of the guys that are Alabama now, um, like I only know about three or guys

like John Petty, Alex Reese, and, um, Herb Jones. So like, and there's a new coach, Avery Johnson out there anymore. So yeah. So when you decided to go to Baylor, I read on Wikipedia, so it's probably wrong, but it said that you decided like when you were being recruited, you were confused why they weren't recruiting you harder. And that was that actually like ended up being a great technique where it was like, no, we don't, we don't want this guy.

And it made you want to go there more. No, no, then, um, so like the reason why I was mad that they were recruiting me earlier is because my high school coach, um, sent two other players to Baylor, Ricardo Galler's and Tweety Carter. And, um, so like it was like a no brainer, like the next best kid under the coach. Like, you know, they're going to, they know who I am. And, um, they just took to like the last month of my, my junior year, you know, the summer period.

And, um, then they finally offered me. So I just felt kind of disrespected and, um, no. So it, and I ended up committing to Alabama. And I think I held on to that grudge a little bit, but, um, like I just, ultimately God just said, no, this is where you need to be. And we both, um, had to like let go of our egos. You know what I mean? So Saturday you're playing Houston.

Let's say there's 10 seconds left. You're down one. Who's taking the last shot on your team? Are you saying to coach Drew like, Hey, I'm the guy. Or, or maybe not. I don't know. I need to know who's, who's, who's taking the last shot on the Baylor Bears. I think it's usually, um, it depends on who's got it going, like throughout the game.

Um, you know, I think it's easy to tell who's like, you know, who's been hit shots and like in the last five minutes, like what happened and, um, but I think either way goes like, um, it's just like, that's just a weird question. Cause it's definitely just falls on who's got it going. And, and who's got the best chance for us to make it. I was just trying to get a headline grab because I wanted you to be like, yeah, I'm taking the last shot. I'm the man you're too nice.

I know you're too nice. I know, but I had to take my shot. That was me taking the shot. You got to take it. Okay. How about this? You're, you're the coach, but you're also playing, but you're two different people. But as the coach, if you're drawing up the last play, who gets the last shot?

Oh man. That's a, that makes the question even harder. I'm not allowed. But I think again, you just got to go with the hot hand at the time. Yeah. I mean, you said earlier, like you didn't dream about hitting the last shot. And necessarily you dreamed about just going off. So at what point have you went off during a game?

What is that? Like 24, 26 points. Is that going off? Yeah. Or like, if I haven't missed the through the whole game, that, that means I'm usually, I'm usually on or like, like that means that, that's, um, indication for hotness, I guess. Yeah. I think you, the West Virginia game, uh, in the Kansas game this year, I feel like you were,

that was, you were in the zone in those games. Um, let's ask it this way. You, there's four Jared Butler's and then one, uh, Masio Teague. Who does coach Drew have take the last shot? Uh, who's ever got the hot hand. If Mesa was hit like four called God's in the game, like, I mean, or five called God's in the game, you got to go for it. Jared's hit like four or five, three pointers that you got to go to.

Wait, what's a call God? Oh, you've never seen, do you watch our games? Yeah, I do. But I, I, I did not. Well, I, I have way too much, uh, I just said that Kansas game, the West Virginia game, I, you also beat, uh, my team, the Badgers in the second round. But, uh, I'm not cool enough to know what you, what you guys are doing. I know, I, I know the mullet guide can dunk, which is crazy.

But what is the call God actually? Like, how did that start? Uh, Mesa was like, um, signature, like, um, celebration is after he's the three. He's like, call God. You know, it used to be just like, just call me. But now it's like, um, call God. He raises up to this guy. It's like, you know, need some help.

Okay. So if you hit, if he hits a couple of call God, what's the difference between calling God and praying? Kind of the same thing. Yeah, same thing. Well, one God's on speed dial, I'd assume. Yeah. There's just, you're hoping he gets the message.

One is like, you're leaving a message after the tone. God sends you direct, he hits the ignore button, but call God. It's like, I got a direct line. When you pray, it's delivered. When you call God, it says, it's got a read receipt on it. Yeah. Yeah. I like to snap God.

Yeah. Just make it disappear. Like the page God. Yeah. He's still got a sidekick. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe, but I shoot him a quick page.

He's got it. Hey, can we get this game? So what's it like right now in the bubble? Because I would have to assume that there are some times where you just get bored. Like there are only so many team building activities you can do. I know that Alabama said they went to the zoo, which actually sounds amazing. I'm still thinking about that zoo. But like, what have you guys been up to to kind of keep you together and keep your

minds from watering too much? Yeah. It's a grind because like you literally have nothing to do. For me personally, I've just been like trying to find good movies on Netflix, which is like the hardest thing in the world because like, you know, it's just, it's just Netflix. We play a lot of Connect 4 and it's been a lot of competitive Connect 4 games and we've been, you know, just doing that.

We play some Cornhole in the, in our meeting room. Some guys got PS4s, whatever. And that's about it. Just, you know, grind it out, you know. What was the level of panic in the Villanova game when you guys were down early? Because I, you know, you guys do have such a great team and I feel like the strength of your team is that you guys, when you want to just ratchet up the defense, you feed all off that and you guys start basically runs on defense.

But you guys are down at half. Was there any panic? Was there any like, what's going on guys? Why aren't we playing better? Or was it like, Hey, if we just get a couple stops here, we're going to be back in this and beat them? Yeah, there wasn't any panic, but I think it was just like a, all right, like, you know, like we got to like buckle down or like get serious or like, all right, there's no more

fooling around, like, you know, and like, and I think that changes all the aspects of our game. And sometimes when we're not hitting shots, it can affect our defense, but I think we change from like, all right, our defense is going to, you know, be good no matter what. And we're just going to live with how it is on offense. And yeah, I mean, once our defense picks up, it's, it's, it's pretty hard to beat us. But um, yeah, I think that was the change. It's, it's fun watching when you guys are like, all right, we're going to just start

shutting P teams down because you jump on them and it's like, holy fuck, now they're up 10 out of nowhere. Um, you, you back to Netflix real quick. A little birdie told me that you're a big romcom guy. What's your favorite romcom? I'll always say the, um, um, the breakup with Jennifer Anson and yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Although that one, like it doesn't really have a great ending.

It's kind of an, like, well, I guess, I guess they kind of, you like that. You like that they split up. Wait, no, they get back together at the very, very end. They look at each other, they see each other on the street. The look in their eyes, you can tell. I think they're back. Do you think they get back together? I don't know.

I think so. Like, I don't know. I don't know. But like, I love that. Like, I love how we're just even debating about it. You know, yeah. Yeah. These guys being dudes.

This is good. What about, what about love? Actually, that's a good one. And the, yeah, love that. Have you never seen love? Actually, like explain the plot a little bit. It's like six different plots going on at once. It's pretty much the best romcom of all time.

It's fantastic. You'd love it. It came out like what? 2005, 2004, 2003. Yeah. Would I actually love it? Yeah. I think you, if you really do like romcoms, you'd love that.

He's making a joke. Huh? Oh, actually, that's good. Fuck. That's really, god damn, that's good. What about when Harry met Sally? No, I've never seen that one. That's the one where she comes and cats his deli,

and then the other lady goes, I'll have what she's having. No? You'd love it. Yeah, you'd love that. Actually, you might not. Yeah. PFT, ask your question about the layups. Oh, yeah.

Good point. All right, so I've been watching a lot of film on you guys this year. I've noticed, I don't know if it's something that you're coached on, but your team tends to shoot a lot of layups, like a lot of runners kind of in the lane, where you don't really jump. You almost put the layup up a half step earlier, so you don't give the defense a chance to like key on that

and go up and swat it. Is that something that you guys actually make a point of emphasis on? No, we actually don't. We've never talked about it in practice. We've never, like, oh, this is like a little finish we do. It's actually just an in-game type thing. All right. Well, you do a lot.

Yeah, I've noticed it too. You guys just might also be faster and better than everyone too, so that also plays into it, because I've noticed that, that you guys are really fast and really good. So, yeah. Do you think sometimes you dunk too much and too hard? I've thought about that. Sometimes, you know, you just kind of,

you got to be a little nice sometimes, because you don't just want to disrespect the game, but, you know, and then there's other times you're like, if that was, if like, if we were on the other side, they would dunk it, you know, just as hard, so. Yeah, I was going to say, listen, if I could dunk, I would only disrespect the game. I would just be constantly disrespecting the game.

That seems like the funnest part of the game is to disrespect it. Yeah, no, but at the same time. You're too nice of a guy. You're a genuinely nice guy. I like it. But have you gone back and like, watched the tape of that game against Wisconsin, and just, there were probably like six or seven points

in the game where it was just like, all right, we get it, you're so much better at basketball than it was, it's unnecessary to just keep jamming it through the crust of the earth on these guys. That was actually a pretty fun game. Yeah, I know. For you, it was awesome. You guys were really fucking good,

and you locked down on defense. It must have been a lot of fun. But like, I felt like Wisconsin was like really like, like they came into the game pretty confident, like after beating North Carolina by like 20, and they're just like, oh, we're going to be Baylor too. Like, I don't know, I felt that, but like, I don't know if they were actually thinking that,

but I just felt that going into the game. So maybe that was why, I don't know. Yeah. There's a fantastic award that happens every year where Jim Nance gives his tie to the best senior on the team that wins the national title. You've probably heard of it. It's probably, you know, the most coveted award in basketball.

Is there a senior on your team right now that you kind of have circled as being the guy that's going to get Jim Nance's tie if you win the whole thing? Oh, that's a tough one. It's really between Mark Vidal and Maycio T. And that's like a tough one because Mark Vidal's been here for five years.

He's been committed to Baylor since like eighth grade. You know, just ridiculous, you know, Baylor for a lifetime dude. Then there's Maycio T, you know, just, you know, heavy contributor, you know, just, you know, big, big time competitor. Like, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I think you got to build the statue for both of them. You got to give the net to both of them. Oh, I like that. So the other guy with the statue there, Robert Griffin, has he reached out to you? Is Robert Griffin like around the team? Has he given you guys like add a boys

or like hitting you up and cheering you guys on? No, he doesn't. He has reached out when we played Kansas. I think I want to say last year he came to the game. He was like court side. That was pretty cool. I didn't get a chance to talk to him. But yeah, no, that's about it.

I don't think he's not that involved. I don't know what else he does with the football team. So like that. But yeah, I had one last question. I actually have two last questions. Do you ever Baylor fans, they do the Bayer thing? Like this? Yeah.

Do you ever look up and you're like, this looks kind of ridiculous? Because they show it on TV. And it's like a bunch of grown men going like this. And it looks a little, it's kind of like the Texas. It is. Yeah, the TCU corn frog when everyone's like this. It's a little weird.

Yeah, it's all weird. Like majority of the time it's like a weird thing. Like, but I think that's what makes it like, you know, cool. Everybody's being weird at the same time. Yeah. Every time I do it, I'm like, oh, this is kind of awkward every time, every time. Yeah, yeah.

OK, that answers my question perfectly. Because you're right. It looks weird. It feels awkward. But if everyone's doing it together, it's cool. Yeah. It's actually a genius hand sign because you can't go horns down with it.

Like I'm trying to go down. You can't turn it down. It's hard to turn it upside down. If you guys, if you guys win, are you going to go Cougs down? Are you going to go like this? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Do their sign down?

No, I don't think it's not about us being Houston. It's about us getting to the championship game. So it's like, why would he even do that? Yeah, that's true. You would be the first to do it, though. That'd be cool, too. My last question was, so fans, obviously, the legalization of gambling, do people tell you the spreads?

Do they like whisper to you? Do they say, hey, like nice shot there at the end or anything like that? Are players aware of it? I get a lot of like Instagrams or DMs when I just so happen to mess up the spread or whatever. But I mean, sometimes I just get DMs and stuff like that. And I just like, that's about it.

But nobody ever comes to me and they're like, oh, this is the spread. Do you get people like, what's the meanest thing someone said to you on DM? I can't say it on here. They're just like, thanks, F. Jared Butler, for just messing up my life. And it's just like, all right, man, I'm sorry.

Oh, man, it's apologizing. Don't apologize to those people. It is crazy when you like, because obviously we're passionate sports fans. But you do have to, I jokingly tweet all throughout the tournament, they're just kids. But it's like, part of the reason, part of the entire dynamic of not getting paid, which hopefully we'll get fixed eventually

in the NCAA, is like, you got to take it a little bit easier on them. Like, you can't, it's not the same as pros when you're like, bashing guys online and stuff. Yeah, no, you're totally right, man. So next year, we'll motherfuck you, and then we'll feel fine about it. So just get ready for that.

Yeah, yeah. Get ready for it. Well, thanks, man. This has been awesome. We appreciate you taking some time. Good luck on Saturday. I think I'll say it. Everybody wants to see Baylor versus Gonzaga.

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Okay, we now welcome on a friend of ours. It's actually his first time on. It is Tate Frazier from the Titus and Tate podcast. He's actually sitting next to Mark Titus in their car. Oh, wait, we're not even... Sorry. Okay, we're gonna start again. We were getting hacked, we're sorry.

We're in the middle of getting hacked on Instagram. So it's a whole thing. I swear, that's actually real. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry, guys, something. Yeah, yeah, all right, here we go. Three, two, one.

Okay, we now welcome on a friend of ours, first time on the show. He is of Titus and Tate podcast fame. It is Tate Frazier. He's in the car right now with our other friend, Mark Titus. Mark is texting while driving, very illegal. But Tate, you, so the big news today,

Roy Williams has retired. And I thought of you first. You're a Die Hard North Carolina fan, UNC fan. You went there, you're from there. So we thought who would be better to have on than you. And also maybe talk a little Final Four, which we can loop mark in at the end of that. But so let's start just off the top.

How many timeouts do you think Roy Williams is bringing with him to retirement? I think at least five, Dan. First and foremost, it's great to be on the show. I, you know, big fan of the program from afar. Mark Titus sitting right next to me, been on the show plenty of times. Listen to those shows.

So it's great to be here. Second, you asked about North Carolina. I did not expect this. I'm in Indiana right now. We're at the Final Four. Titus is giving me a tour of Indiana's home state. I'm seeing, you know, the basketball hall of fame. I saw where they shot Hoosiers today.

I saw Hinklefield House. I'm having a great day. And then the middle of this, Dan, I get a, you know, text to my brother that just says, oh no. And I, you know, I'm thinking something my family may have happened. You know, I'm like, okay, like what's going on here?

No, Roy Williams decides he's not a good basketball coach. And it's time to hang it up. And I just watched the press conference. I'm gonna rest around him like tearing up as I hear him talk about North Carolina basketball. And this whole day has just been a whirlwind. And the fact that I'm in Indiana is probably a good distraction,

but the rest of it is not so good. Yeah, it's sad. I do like the fact that you guys are always together. Like me and Big Cat always get the question whenever somebody sees us in public without the other person. Like, hey, is, is your co-host there with you? But you guys, it's actually true.

You guys actually don't ever, you guys sleep in the same bed, right? Yes, yes, that's the common misconception. Yes, we're always together. And, but no, in general, like with Titus being here, it's been nice because we just did, I don't know if you guys saw this two or three weeks ago, we did an emergency Brad Stevens podcast,

which is all about like, where will Brad Stevens go next? What is the move for Brad Stevens? We realized it wasn't IU, but now America wants it to be Carolina. And I want to come on your show nationally and say, we don't want Brad Stevens. I want to put that up there.

We don't want it. Why not? Why do I want a floundering NBA coach to be my coach? I'm trying to win championships. Oh my God. I hope he's now the coach of the Tar Heels next year, just for that clip, just because you put that all on the record.

Me too. Me too, BFC, because if that's the case, then I am literally going to have to write because I do not want this to happen. Send him to do. He's a private school coach. Send him to do. So you're going to get Hubert Davis

and you're going to like it. I don't know. No comment. No comment. Yes. Do you want West Miller? They're going to promote from within. I am a West Miller believer.

I want West Miller to be the coach at some point in his career. I think if it had to be now, I'm much happier with him being the head coach than maybe some other candidates that Big Cat was just throwing out there. I love West. Carolina basketball, West Miller knows really well.

He knows how to recruit. John Shire, who's the coach to Duke, assistant coach hates West Miller, which lets me know he's a really good coach. That's how the Duke guys are scared of him. So that gives me more of a emboldening opinion on him. But I will say in general, if you're North Carolina,

you got to go outside the family or at least make some phone calls. At least call Mark Few and say, hey, Mark Few, do you want to leave Spokane, Washington and make $8 million a year at North Carolina in Chapel Hill? I don't know. Let's see what he says. Let's call Scott Drew and see what Scott Drew's up to.

Let's call, we can't call Billy Donovan because Roy Williams hates Billy Donovan. So that's not really in the conversation. But in general, North Carolina, make the phone calls. Let's see who wants to take the job. Calipari's already reached out to Carolina, saying I'll take the job. Yeah, Brad Doherty running back.

I mean, his recruiting class laid the groundwork for Roy Williams. Absolutely. If you don't forget that, you're right. If he's without Joao Williams and Jackie Manuel, you're not winning that championship. Without Melvin Skye, you're not winning that championship. What about Rick Petino? Ooh.

So this is what the dark web is saying, Petino to Carolina. Why not? Why not? Why not shoot it to the moon? I'm saying in general, you know, Argyle's not a thing for Petino. He's a New York guy.

So he's got to stay North. I like that. I've got jokes that I'm not going to say about Rick Petino because we are a pro Rick Petino podcast. But if I were to say something about Rick Petino, I would say like that that ain't tar on his heel, you know, like not not a natural fit there. It would be fun to see Rick Petino get like a big job again,

obviously. But what do you think is like the timing with the Roy Williams thing? Because I have a theory that it's more about like, he said he's not the man for the job right now, like in this day and age. I think it might have something to do with the name image likeness thing happening right now.

There was just, you know, the Supreme Court just heard the NCAA. Basically, the NCAA got bent over in front of all the justices of the Supreme Court yesterday. So things are going to change. And I don't know if Roy feels like he can adapt to that. I think that Roy Williams had, you know, I think last year really heard it, right?

You know, you have last year with Cole Anthony, you got the injuries. You're not going to make the tournament. And in general, you go from having Kobe White, Cam Johnson, two lottery picks, a number one seed in the tournament. You lose to Auburn, but it's, you know, it's okay because Auburn makes the final four.

And then you come back to that. And then you have this season, which is worst case scenario. You have the talent, but you also have to play the game of, I'm appeasing dads. It's a big time for college basketball dads. Like if you are a college basketball dad that's involved, invested in your kid,

if you're a Morinovich of sorts, you're doing great. Walker Kester's dad, you know, I think he maybe broke Roy Williams a little bit. He comes in there and just says like, my kid should be a stretch five. He should be shooting threes. And Roy Williams is like, your kid sucks. Like your kid should not be playing.

What are you talking about? I'm a three-time national champion. And then you mentioned the NIL stuff. I think that adds another layer to it, which is, do I really, do you want to teach an old dog new tricks? No, that's the rule. You don't do that. And Roy Williams is the example of a college basketball guy

of the 20th century of the old guard per se. And he doesn't want to adapt. He doesn't want to change. And I don't really blame him per se. I just wish they had a plan in place because I think the plan right now, as Big Cat said, it's Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis will probably be the next head coach

in North Carolina. And I love Hubert Davis as a guy. I don't know Hubert Davis as a coach. Yeah. So we'll see. So how much, I mean, I do think that the, it's not that game is passed Roy by, but he did feel like out of the big coaches,

you know, if you want to say the big programs, Cal, Bill Self, Coach K, he struggled the most with like the one and done and getting those, you know, just stacking the team with freshmen and letting them go to the lottery the next year. Like, do you think that had something to do with it? Because it did feel like he never was able to fully embrace that where Coach K, credit to him,

he's a dinosaur, but he did adapt. He's changed his whole program. I told Titus this in the fall of 2009, there was a Skype call that changed everything. And it was Harrison Barnes and he was Skyping in to say, which school he was going to go to. Everyone in North Carolina, I was in high school at the time, senior.

And everyone in high school was saying, you know, Harrison Barnes is going to Duke. He loves Coach K. He's going to get his business degree at Duke. And then he Skyped into Roy Williams and said, I'm coming to North Carolina. The number one recruit in the country is going to North Carolina.

We all celebrate, we're dancing on Coach K's grave. We're like, RIP, you guys have Kyle Singler and Brian Zubeck. LOL, good luck. Meanwhile, little did we know some, you know, six months later, Brian Zubeck with, you know, a legal screen his way to a title. And Kyle Singer would shoot out of his ass and beat, you know, a buntner team in the championship game

and Duke basketball would then get Kyrie Irving and Duke basketball would then, like you said, big guy going to the one and done era, which is the decade of them being able to dominate on the recruiting trail. Yeah. And, you know, just in general, it's one of those things where, you know,

North Carolina at that time, I wish I could have captured the moment. I wish I could have enjoyed that like three month period before Duke got back and dominated. And I told Titus today, Coach K won the war. Yeah. Like Coach K won the war. Like in 2010, 2009 fall to going into 2010,

Duke basketball was dead. Carolina won the war. We are one of 2005, one of 2009, Duke has no hope. And he was able to outlast the endure. So congratulations to him. I have a spin zone for you because it seems like you're down. Here's the spin zone. Okay.

Unlike some other teams out there that recently had a hiring take place. Chris Beard is already at Texas. Shaka Smart is already at Marquette and Brad Stevens is staying with the Celtics. So you can't be, you can't have three high profile guys turn the job down, further making it an embarrassment

that they have to then go get a guy who's never coached a day of college basketball. And it's been quote unquote called low energy to be the head of your program. I'm not talking to you Titus, I'm talking to Tate. So that's good. I will say this. In general, I think the North Carolina job

never gets offered to anyone. I don't think that there is a phone call that's made to a Mark few or like I said before, none of those guys get called and Hubert Davis just gets bumped up and that's kind of where we are. And as I told Titus earlier, if Hubert Davis is the guy,

then I think it's an 18 month trial period, right? You see what 18 months looks like and if it sucks, and if it looks like it's Matt Darty 2.0, unlike what PFC said with the recruits, maybe if he's got the recruits we keep them. But if it's Matt Darty 2.0 and things aren't going well, you got to go outside the family.

You got to make it real higher. I wish it would be West Miller. I wish it could be Jerry Stackhouse. My long shot is it could be Rashid Wallace, right? Rashid Wallace is a high school coach. Yes. That's what I wanted. That would be awesome.

That's what I'm saying. Ball don't lie. Both teams played hard. Think about that. After a game, both teams played hard or ball don't lie. Those are two great answers to all the press. You don't have to do anything else. I will say smoke and blunts after Carolina games

probably isn't what Carolina fans are necessarily looking for. But for me, it sounds pretty good. So those are my long shots. You play on tobacco road. You can't be that picky. You can't be like, whoa, marijuana? No, that's not our culture. That's right.

We just stick to the hard stuff. We invented this. They're just a different brand. And people will then now say, when I get excited about the idea of Rashid Wallace going to be coach at UNC, people will be like, well, he's never coached in college. So how can you say he'd be good?

But Mike Woodson is bad. Well, I would say to that, Mike Woodson is 63 years old. If you get a guy who's a little younger, like a Juwan Howard, so to speak. And someone who maybe can talk to the kids and not be like, back in my day when I were playing in peach baskets, you'd have a little bit of a better chance.

Yeah. Yeah. All those 17-year-olds that grew up loving the Fab Five band, yeah. I mean, 17-year-olds do love Rashid Wallace. Yeah, and what about Juwan Howard being on the Miami Heat Championship team? You forgot about that?

That's right. Yeah. All those 14-year-olds who are getting recruited right now are like, man, you know who I loved was Juwan Howard on the 92 Michigan team. Yeah. I loved the Black Sox. Yeah.

I was just like a coach that's that rich, that walks in the door and like you can, it's public information to see how many ways he's made probably like $150 million in his career. Yeah. Like that's cool. You want to pay for that guy. Hey, Titus, you know that when you get to 65,

that's usually retirement age. So Mike Woodson is going to be there in. Listen, listen. Oh, two years, two years. The reason Carolina fans are all shook up about Roy retiring is that he waited until after Mike Woodson, aren't you? If only he would have done this before,

there could have been a bidding war. We could have figured out which is the better job. We could have figured it out. Right. Like, would somebody go to Carolina or Indiana? We'll find out. You bring up. We'll never know.

You bring up a really good point and something I love to do, which is talk about just like what are the best jobs? Like if you were to rank college basketball jobs, I would put UNC, I mean, definitely top five, maybe top three. Yeah. I mean, for me, Titus and I were just talking about this. I think that the top two jobs in college basketball

are Kansas and North Carolina. And they're interchangeable to me. So it's like, I can go to Kansas and go to Lawrence and be king and be able to do what I need to do with the Titus. I go to North Carolina with Jordan, do what I need to do, get the kids I want to play because of the prestige. You got Wilk Chamberlain or you got Michael Jordan, right? At the end of the day.

Kentucky is probably number three on that list for me. I could understand. I know Kentucky fans. I feel them right now. They're like coming at my neck for saying they're number three. But we've seen Kentucky be a Billy Gillespie time. We know what Calipari has been able to do. But that's a Calipari spin on Kentucky.

I don't know what Kentucky is without Calipari. They want to find that out. So we'll see. I think UCLA is the fourth best job in the country because, again, you got LA behind you. You got John Wood behind you. You got Karim Abdul-Jabbar behind you. So you got a good set up there.

So those are pretty much my top four. And then I think my fifth school would probably be Indiana. And I know you guys are going to laugh. But I think Indiana would probably be my top five. I think that in general, you just have kids that want to play there because of the prestige, tradition, whatever it is. And you have Indianapolis, which has a ton of basketball

talent and the surrounding area in general. So I like recruiting states. I like fertile recruiting states. And I like basketball states. So I think those are my top five. I agree with you. Indiana is definitely a prestige job, a top of the line job, which just makes the Mike Woodson hire that more baffling.

Right? Like that's, I totally agree. I said it before they did the hire. I was like, Indiana is basically the same list that you just listed where it's like you got a couple of the blue bloods that have been relevant in these last 20 years. They're number one. And then what?

What's up? I cannot wait for Greg Garner to get fired in three years. Yeah. And Shaka Smart will just move 90 miles west. Yeah, Alondo Tucker is going to be your new coach. And you're going to be like, I like it. I like where he's alleged. He is a legend.

He jumped out of the fucking gym, dude. He was, he couldn't shoot to save his life. You don't need to shoot to score. You don't. You don't. UCLA is a perfect example. You don't need to shoot to score. He's just got to play good.

You don't need to score to win. You've got to play free throw defense. Yeah, all right. Let's talk a little, let's talk a little final four. We will now let Mark join the program after the cheap seats comments that he had there. Is it just guaranteed? Are we looking at Gonzaga Baylor?

I'll leave you first. Yeah. Yeah, probably. I mean, Gonzaga is going to smoke UCLA for sure. I think Houston, Houston's an interesting match for Baylor, but I think ultimately Houston and Baylor are pretty much the same team. And Houston's just not as good at doing what Baylor does.

So that's, but I could see, I could see Houston winning, but, but UCLA has no shot against Gonzaga. Yeah. No shot. No shot. What about Hep C? The magic of Hep C up in the stands. No shot.

Damn, no shot. Yeah. I will, I will kind of piggyback that. I think worst case scenario is that Houston wins as far as like entertainment value, because even if UCLA upsets Gonzaga, Big Cat, you know this, we get the Wisconsin, Kentucky moment from 2015 where America is just like, oh my God, I can't believe that Goliath fell.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And the idea of UCLA being David is hilarious. You know, the idea of a team that has 11 titles, playing three programs that have no titles is now the underdog in the final four. That's pretty ridiculous to me. I think Houston winning is worst case though,

because if Houston's in the title game, then Gonzaga or UCLA will beat them in my opinion. So I, and Baylor's got like a weird Texas thing. They have an assistant coach at Houston that has a son that's a coach at Baylor. I don't like any of the, the connective tissue there. So there's a little bit of a, a Houston upset that I see. So I'm terrified of that.

If Houston does win though, you'd have to, if you're an Indiana fan, you'd be like, man, the one that got away, Calvin Sampson. The one that put that program in the depth, they had the, Calvin Sampson screwed Indiana so badly that Dan Dockett ended up being the head coach. I mean, that's not really what he said. That's a perfect sentence.

That's it. Well, you think Indiana had, I mean, we got six. Wait, it is, it is hilarious though, looking back at what Calvin Sampson got fired for and what the whole scandal was. And I saw like Pat Ford, you wrote an article about it, when it happened, calling it like an egregious miscarriage of leadership by Calvin Sampson.

He was texting kids. He, he sent like a few text messages out of season. And now looking back at that scandal, it's like, it was nothing. It was, it was literally nothing that he got fired for. It's literally legal now. Like it was legal like almost immediately. I will say in Indiana's defense and like, I think Sampson was probably going to end up not being the right guy anyway

for like off court stuff. The, the, at a certain point in Indiana fans would have revolted anyway. But I don't know. I think he could have won enough that it wouldn't matter. Like there's a lot of off court issues and that whatever, we don't need to get it to. But I think he would have won, he would have probably won

enough that people wouldn't care anyway. But there was, it was a little more than just the phone calls. The phone calls were just, but yeah, they just frustrating that it's legal now. And if you did it now, no one would even care, especially like given the FBI, we were in a post FBI world where like, like that doesn't even register at this point, given like, we'll wait is on wiretaps called.

And nothing is Sean Miller. Yeah. Wait Titus, I'm going to actually say something nice about Indiana real quick. Cause I actually do think that Mata is a game changer. I'm being honest. Yes. So you're, you're old coach who is a great recruiter

who knows how to run a big program. How much, like, what is his exact role going to be? I don't know. I have no idea. I, I, I tried to ask him and he, I don't even think he knows. I think it's just like, just kind of, yeah. He's just kind of there. He's just the guy, you know what his role is going to be?

He's going to be the guy that has his arms crossed in like row six that they cut to at least once a game. Yeah. Of course that mod involved with the program and he's just got like an Indiana shirt on. No one can really define what he does. That's what he is. But if you're a Hoosier fan, that's like you're,

you're basically hoping because he knows all the high schools. He's obviously knows the area really well. Recruits Ohio, recruits Indiana. So he, I like as much as I joke about Mike Woodson, if that mod is actually involved here, that becomes a real kind of tandem. I love that you're talking about Mike Woodson. Like he's never chose to game a basketball.

No, he has, he has a coach college. Wouldn't you say college is a little different? College is harder. No, college is different. They're just kids. Dude. He's going to be coaching against like Red Guarding Chris Collins.

You're actually like, this is like going to be the hardest thing. Yeah, that's pretty tough. Jeff, did you not see, did you not see Northwestern's December when they were playing four out and it was, he was changing the basketball? Yeah, you saw. They beat Ohio State. He saw it.

He said no confidence. He said no confidence. Yeah, Chris Collins is a fucking savvy mind. I do like the idea of though, of that mod. It's important to just have a guy that the cameras go to in the crowd, but it does take heat off the coach. When you have somebody like, when Spolstra took over in the heat and like the cameras were just always

on Pat Riley in the stands. Like it's good to take the heat off of an inexperienced coach that has never before coached a game at that level. Yeah. In fact, in fact, I want to volunteer my services right now. I want to get involved with Indiana. I want to be that guy that I want to be involved in the program. And every time things are going poorly, cut to me.

And just be like, of course, like Mark Titus has a lot to do with what we're seeing right now. And just associate it, associate failure with me. So that way I can be the fall guy. And I will gladly fall in the sword for coach if they need me to. All right, last question. Tate, I noticed you didn't answer my question.

How many, how many timeout do you think Roy Williams when he cleans out his desk for the last day tomorrow, he opens up a drawer and there's just like a thousand timeouts that he just never used when someone was making a run on UNC? I think that if I'm right about what NFTs are, I think he can turn the timeouts into NFTs and then he can become a millionaire. I'm going to miss out so much though, Roy.

There's nothing. And Roy is a Hall of Famer. I loved, you know, I like UNC basketball. I think he's a hilarious coach and very good coach. But there was something very special about a team going on like an 8-0, 10-0 run. And Roy just sitting there and being like, not going to use my timeout.

Yeah, deal with it yourself. Yeah, it was like always a Dean Smith thing, right? You got to learn on the fly. Like, I'm not going to help my team out. But like at certain times, like you said, Big Cat, when you Texas A&M goes on a 16-0 run in the tournament, you say, all right, I think we should have called a timeout at some point.

So I love Roy Williams. He saved Carolina basketball. I think a lot of people forget that. Carolina basketball was 8 and 20 when I was a kid, you know? I went to the Blue-Y game the year they went 8 and 20. I watched the Blue-Y game. It was like watching two JV teams play each other. Adam Boone was our point guard.

Brian Morrison was our shooting guard. And Jason Williams, J Williams, was at Duke dominating. And he wanted to play at Carolina. So I saw the worst of the worst at Carolina. Roy Williams came, saved the program, won three titles, did all he could. So like at the end of the day, I'm happy that I had the run that we had.

But I also, my biggest fear is being in Indiana basketball. And I say that with love. It could always be worse. Yeah. So much worse. I just don't want to be that. So like my hope is that Hubert, I know Titus is right here, but they hit me in the face about that.

No, you could be Wisconsin where you're like always good enough. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. My friend, my friend, I have the self-awareness to know that they'll never win a title. And I don't think they're anything they're not, which means that I have happiness. Indiana fans, they're much like Nebraska football fans, where they think the days, the glory days,

are right around the corner from coming back. And that is torture. That is true torture. Yeah. Because as we know, all of the best football recruits every year come out of Lincoln, Nebraska. And if they could only just keep them and stay, it would be fine, which is good out of here.

Do you think Mike Woodson, do you think there's a chance Mike Woodson might fall asleep during a recruiting video? No, that's even famous, unfortunately. As I said, when he was hired, big cat, if you're telling, if you, everyone keeps harping out on how old he is, the man does not have a gray hair on his head. It's true. Not a single one.

That's a fact. Not in his, not in his goat sheet. That's true. True. It's obviously not that old. It's the Coach K test. As long as you stay black, you're good. Keep the hair black, dye it, whatever it takes.

Like that's what Mike Woodson will be like. Coach K will dye at 100 with jet black hair. That's true. Do you think that, ultimately, I know you said that Coach K came back after Carolina had buried him. If you were to put Coach K versus Roy Williams, said a little bet, who had the better career coaching? I mean, the better career.

This is like a LeBron-Jordan conversation. It's like, look, Coach K, by all accounts, is by far the better career and everything. But if push comes to shove, if you ask me who I want to be with my coaches, Roy Williams, 100 out of 100 times. Not biased at all. Agreed.

Not biased. I'm just saying, I want the guy who actually cares about me, not the devil. So, you know what I mean? I agree with that part. Yeah, I agree with that part. Absolutely. All right, guys, enjoy Indiana.

People can watch you tomorrow, right? Yeah, we'll be 3X through you. Basketball, we'll be on Twitter, you know what I mean? It's the same thing every single year. All the conferences come together. They have a team of four guys. They play three-on-three basketball against each other. It'll be great.

And then, you know, from there, Titus and Tate YouTube, Titus and Tate the podcast. And yeah, we're live in Indy for the final four. Yeah, have Tate back on for God's sakes. Like, don't wait for the worst moment of his life as a Carolina player. No, that's what we want to do. Yeah, when Mac Brown retires, we'll have you back on.

Honestly, it couldn't have been a better first time, guys. Every time I come on, your guy just showed. He's sitting right next to me. And it's weird. Again, we are next to each other all the time. So I do feel sad every time. Yeah, when Sam Howell gets an injury, week one. Yeah, week one, he gets an injury out for the year.

We'll have you back on. Can I say this? Kayla Pressley will back this up. North Carolina is a football school. Always has been, always will be. You know what I mean? Sam Howell for Heisman. Yes.

That's all there. Yes. I like it. Whenever we have them on in the future, it should just be like one as the primary guest, and then the other person has to sit there while we roast them. Yeah, this is great.

This is a lot of fun. All right. You guys are the best. Thank you so much. See you, guys. Thanks. Later. Bye, guys.

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Breaking moves. OK, that cow is dead. That cow is dead. Straightening thing was the paper rolls joke. I'm moving on. Boom, boom, boom. Called it. Suck it, Hank.

Through your normal-sized gap in your teeth. Damn. What was an advertisement for? Actually, I don't care. Well, tell us. He has a new app coming out called the Playbarstle app where you can see new contest funds every week. Is he keeping it or no?

So he's not keeping it? No, it was, yeah. Gap is back. OK, the gap is back. Got it. I wonder if he looked at it himself. It's like, oh, this is kind of cool. Yeah, what if he incepted himself into being like,

you should actually do this, Michael? Yeah, all right. Yeah, there it is. Goodbye to the gap update. All right, firefests that we can't. I have a couple. I have a live firefest that's unfolding as this show has been going on, but our Instagram

is getting hacked. What? What did it post? We got an email login that was like someone logged in from the Czech Republic. And then I got another email login. This is all as the show is going on. So I'm trying to deal with it.

IRL. It's real time. IRT. And IRL. Yeah, well, this sounds like Brogan Roback all over again. The email on your Instagram was changed from Hank at Barstool. The phone number has been removed on your Instagram account. So we're working on it.

I'm talking to Paul, talking to Instagram, trying to get that fixed. So did they post anything hilarious? Because it spins on, this is the best day to ever get your shit hacked. Right, right. They haven't yet. I don't know what's going on.

But yeah, if anyone posts anything, it's not us. I hope it becomes just a great tweet. A LeBron James Stan account for the day. Yeah, just goes crazy on it. My other firefest, though, before that was that this on Monday or Tuesday, I forgot which day it was, we were doing a live stream. I was sitting next to Coach Dugs.

And there was a picture of me looking like extremely short next to him. And that got tweeted out a bunch of memes. And then I lashed out and then just started chirping you guys unnecessarily because I was upset because there was a picture of me looking short. It was honestly pretty immature of you. And yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I know that was PFT. Oh, that's funny. I looked perfectly normal. It was Photoshop. So normal you had to post Hank's pictures. Hey, you remember that picture of Hank when he had that big chin?

Yeah, it was funny. Let's all talk about that instead. You were so not mad that you posted bad pictures of Hank instantly. Yeah. Big pictures of me. It was a real picture of you looking short. And then you lashed out and started digging into the Photoshop

archive just to make yourself feel better. No, it was a good meme. Gonzaga was playing so much better. And so then I had to put up a meme talking about the game that we were watching. Also, this is what really has kept me thinking about it because out of the blue on Friday, out of the blue, like literally out of the blue, it was Friday night.

I got a tweet. I was about to tweet the fat-looking, no-facial-hair Photoshop pic of you as a reply to that girl who made the gas agent comment, but I didn't. So it's like PFT knew it was a messed up thing to tweet. And then he, I was like, thank you. But he was hurting. He was hurting.

So then he was shown to be small. And he instantly went to the, I'm going to bring everyone else down with me. No, just Hank. Yeah. But it wasn't even Hank's fault. It was your fault for being short. Yeah.

It's the live stream. If you want to talk about it. It was real. Marlon's man's fault. It was real. I thought he was just stepped at. Yeah. He was real.

So, yeah. I understand where you're going with this, Hank. I feel bad for you. You would never post the Photoshop picture of me looking shorter than I normally am, would you? Again, that was Liam in the first place. You've always, like, four years and you've always held that against me when it was never, I'm just an innocent bystander.

I thought you were going to fight me when I came in the office the next day. No, I was only upset because it was, like, realistically small-looking, if it had been cartoonishly small. It was a very good Photoshop. Yeah. That's why he's the best. Well, I think you're, like, seven inches shorter in the

picture, so you're saying it's realistic. Then Doug's? No, the Photoshop in question, first of all, was from Racillot. I think the Racillot Mount Rushmore of, like, Jim Guys. Like, if you won the time stamp, it was legitimately four years ago. But PFT's holding on to that.

Right. And you're still holding on blame to me when I literally, like, I walked in the office the next day. PFT, like, stepped up to me with his chest out. This is how you get short guys trying to fucking invade all of Europe. They just hold it in their chest forever. In my tiny little chest, my small little heart is filled

with a little pecanous-sized piece of rage. Yeah, listen, I may have been wrong to post that Photoshop, but in the moment, you got to get the internet talking. You got to get the internet moving off. So no regrets. Billy, it's a replay. From two years ago. Hey, I'm going to just laugh at Billy.

That was such an awesome, oh. I just thought they walked off in one. They showed DeeDee rounding the bases. You haven't found the teams. Well, I just saw the Gatorade back. That was such a genuine, oh, yes. That was so sweet. I love it.

All right, PFT, your Firefest? My Firefest of the Week is that I got the vaccine, and I'm not, I can't, I can't post about it on social media. I don't want to be that guy that tweets it out, that Instagram Stories that puts it on his Instagram page because, like, that's lame. It's like, what, the vaccine doesn't work unless you put it on social media, but I want to tell people.

So, like, but I don't want to, like, use any platform that I have to tell people that I did get the vaccine today. Right. And after getting the vaccine, I'm basically half-bat. I'm Batman. I'm a superhero, and it made me beat Hank in ping-pong. Yeah. Sweep him, in fact.

But it's good that you haven't said it. I'm not going to say it because, like, no one, you know that guy that's like, hey, I'm a Vax-hole. Hey, look at me. I got, I'm not going to get sick, and you guys all are. Yep. I don't want to do that. So it's just tough for me to keep my mouth shut

about something like that. That is the podcaster's burden. Yes. All right, my firefest is when we were in Detroit this weekend. On Monday, I had a few hours free time, so I went and visited our good friend Tony Scheffler, who is a varsity women's head coach at his high school. And I gave them a pump-up speech before, I think it was,

like, state quarter finals, and then they lost by, like, 40. So, yeah, that's bad. What'd you say? I don't know. I guess I did say it out. What did you say? I was like, you guys, like, this has been a really tough year. I have watched a couple of their games,

because Tony's a good friend. So, like, he'll send us a link, and I'll watch it. And, like, you guys are great. You know, keep playing defense. And Tony's really proud of you. He probably doesn't tell you guys, but he tells me all the time how proud he was. And everyone was like, great, this is awesome.

They were pumped. It was great. We took, we shot half-court shots to, like, loosen it up before the playoff game, and they got fucking smoked. They probably would have lost by 50 if it wasn't for him. I'm retiring from the pre-game speech. Did we give a pump-up speech to that team at some point via FaceTime?

There's a couple times. I've sent a few videos. I did one with you. I did one with Gronk with A-Rod. There's been some pump-ups throughout the years, but this one was the first live in flesh, and it did not go well at all. Like, they got really beat.

That's like in the office, when Pam's like, hey, Jim, can you talk to my dad and make my parents not break up? And then he's like, sure, no problem. Then, boom, divorce. Yeah, so. What did you say? Yeah, that's whatever. Get them next year, but not with my speech.

We'll stop doing speeches. Billy, your firefest? My first firefest was falling for Julian Elman's April Fool's prank. It wasn't that you fell for it. It was that you were so confidently telling me that you're on high alert. April Fool's is like the purge.

It's like, that's the best way to describe it. 24 hours of just, like, foolery. Yeah, like, Billy, I think, woke up early this morning. He's like, I'm not going to get caught this year. He's got post-its on his mirror, like a momento. Remember what day it is. Yeah. Anyway, I got caught.

And my second firefest is, I think, it's time to neuter my dog. Yeah. When you told us the story, I don't know if it was just me. Yeah, it was just you. Yeah, Billy was like, I might neuter my dogs at some point. I was like, you should neuter it now, because that's the right thing to do.

And he's like, well, he's been like fucking chicken for you. No, he's been jizzing all over his bed. And Billy was like, it's fucking hilarious. That's not funny. No, no, no, no, no, not my bed, his bed. Well, you guys have the same bed. No, I have a very well-trained dog. Besides the jizz.

He's never been aggressive. He's never humped anything. He gets the casual rocket. But the best dog ever, like, really well-tempered, I was in my head like, OK, I'm going to let him grow. Like, let him like, you know, so he doesn't get the hip problems later in life, you know, the nasal stuff. And I was like, honestly, I might not neuter him,

because I think it would be cruel to, like, neuter him in my head, but I will. But, yeah, so it's time, because he started. I've looked at his bed. There's, like, yellowish-white stuff. Oh, yeah, he's coming over. It sounds like he's not very well-trained, Billy. No, he's very well-trained.

He's not going to fuck you, bro, especially after you neutered him. Nocturnal emissions. It's nocturnal emissions. Do you think, like, just stepping back outside of this for a second, like, do you think that the chicken is dying, frogs getting fucked, dogs jizzing? Do you think any of this is normal? I'm just laying it all out.

I'm just saying what you said. One of those things is a lie. No, you're right. The chickens didn't die. The chickens didn't die. Well, no, you said that. Yo, it's not jizzing. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, no, it's pretty typical. Chickens die. Frogs get fucked. No, dogs. Dogs jizz. Yeah. No, but I'm serious. He goes like back in time every time he goes home.

Yeah, Dr. Doobittle. Dr. Doobittle. That's good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, Billy, I could actually picture Billy as being one of those dog owners. I'm going to neuter my dog, but I want it to fuck once.

I want to know what it's like, and then I'll cut its balls off. Yeah. If you have a fucking in his sleep. No. Show him the way with the chickens. Anyway. Do you hear him? Well, you don't have dogs.

Yeah, they dream. Right. They run and dream. Yeah. Do you hear him fucking in his dreams? He just, like, his bed's a dark color, and I went over, and I was like, what does he do into his bed? Is it slobber?

And then I realized. Oh, god, Billy. Oh, god. What a life. What a life. All right, Jake, do you got a firefest to wrap us up? Yeah. It is officially the return of the Schvitz.

Oh. Walking to and from work, hoodie and jeans. I'm a big sweater, and it's uncomfortable now. So I might have to start reading. I know you said, big cat, last week, you can't really wear hoodies anymore. Dude, it sucks. And I just, yeah, the sweating.

That's why every single year, this happens at the exact same time. I'll over extend hoodie weather and be like, fuck, now I got to lose weight, so I'm not eating any carbs, and it sucks. You guys start having an undershirt that you keep at work to change into. The triple S hasn't been cold recently. We might need to get a cold again.

Because usually, that's the great thing. You can walk into the office, and the triple S is freezing. What's the triple S? It's the full stream stadium. How can you get involved in that? You download the play bar still. Oh, shit. Totally crazy.

You know it's crazy. So because I swept Hank today, Hank didn't win a single game, and I beat him so resoundingly. Wait, what do you mean he didn't win a single game against me? Well, how many games did you play? Well, only two, because I won both of them. He didn't win any? Yeah, he didn't win a single one,

and I beat him so resoundingly that somebody won $1,000 for betting on me. Damn, wait, did Hank come close to beating you? No, no, it was actually a blowout. It was 21, 16, 21, 16. And it could have been way worse in both guys. I did like the spin around shots. I was taunting him.

Oh, no. I tried to give him an extra point when he almost completely whiffed on a serve. The vaccine is on the banned substance list. Is this true, Hank? It's all kind of an asterisk. Yeah, I told them, Hank, cut this part out, but when I got the vaccine, which I'm not going to mention,

I told them to put a floater of steroids on there. It just topped me off. So is this all true, Hank? Technically. If we're going by the factual thing that we do sometimes, yes. It was an April Fool's joke. Yeah, that's right.

That's true. You know what, Hank? I'm going to delete. And also, the shirt PFT is wearing was so nice. I just was just flustered. You know what I'm going to do right now just for you, Hank? I'm going to delete the tweet. Is that a?

No one's seen it, probably. PFT, is that a? Is that salmon? Cement color? No, no, this is pink. Just be careful, dude. Yeah, no, it's not orange enough. I checked it out.

You're going to be part of White Boy Summer. We're not wearing salmon. Billy, he got milkshake ducked. Oh, really, Chet Hayes? He didn't get milkshake duck because we all always knew he was problematic. Yeah, like it was he's not a good. We're not laughing with him.

We're laughing at him. Also, nice job, Billy, because I know you learned milkshake duck last week. So good job using it in a sentence right away. All right, numbers. You got a fact for us, Billy? The picture of me in the gym locker room. I was getting vaccinated.

It was Johnson and Johnson 31. What? What are you talking about? 18. 8. 32. 99. Hank, the tweet is now deleted.

I've deleted the tweet. That's a good deal. 31. 12. 12. Tommy. TV 12. Whoa.

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