Pardon My Take - Bears Head Coach Matt Eberflus & GM Ryan Poles, Crazy Sports Weekend With UFC, CBB, Ja Morant And More

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

Were back after a great sports weekend. We talk College Basketball, Lebron's dream, UFC and the return of Jon Jones (00:00:00-00:24:43). Ja Morant remains fucking up, Combine and pain tolerance tests (00:24:43-00:56:33). Who's back of the week including Travis Kelce being funny and more (00:56:33-01:09:01). We then welcome on Bears Head Coach Matt Eberflus and GM Ryan Poles to talk about the draft, their football philosophies, Matt Eberflus being a cat guy and tons more (01:09:01-01:55:02). We finish with the lottery ball machine (01:55:02-02:00:05).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Download the Barstool Sportsbook. Get excited. Got a lot of great stuff coming up. And that is our great sponsor for the show. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, March 6th. And boys, I don't even know where we want to start. Spin the roulette wheel. XFL. XFL. It's still going on. It's going strong. This is my problem. Yeah, XFL kind of got lost in the sauce this weekend. DC Defenders 3 and 0. They had a big cup snake. They actually listened to the people and allowed the cup snake to happen this weekend. Besides that, don't really care. Okay, so that's our XFL recap. They drank a lot of beer. Yeah, I don't know what where we do. I mean, Conference Championship Week is imminent.

We are starting. We've already started some. There's some bids that have already been taken place. Five bids. Five bids that have taken place. Saturday was another great day in college basketball. And I guess what we really should start with is Max being the biggest jinx in the world. So PFT, you also had UCLA. Yep. Max. Heavy UCLA. Tor Jailin. MRI is not out yet. The MRI is not out yet, but Jailin Clark for UCLA, their best defender. Tor's Achilles. I'm just going to say there's too many Jailins. Yeah. Too many Jailins. I can't keep track of all the Jailins at this point. It looks like a torn Achilles. If anyone watched the play. Yeah. No, I told Max afterwards because he got us all invested in UCLA. We're going to be the Bruins. We're going to get excited.

Our guy, Mick Cronin. Great. You know, they're whooping Arizona. Everything feels great. Blue blood. Blue blood. Number one seat. They're probably still going to get a number one seat. Bill Walton talking. I think the 1973 team was getting honored and PFT. I was so mad at Max and so mad about everything that I went and I found like alternate fan angles of his torn Achilles. And so I've seen at least three different angles, including the TV copy. It is a torn Achilles. Now, isn't it possible though that if any coach kind of relishes this opportunity where nobody believes in you, it's Mick Cronin? Yeah. Was UCLA too highly touted going into this tournament for Mick Cronin and his underdog mentality to truly shine? I listen, they're still a very good team,

but that was their, their ceiling because that was, you know, he is their best defender. He was, he's a very good player. He, he, he can change a lot of games with how he defends. And now your rotation gets shorter. Yeah. And what's the old saying? Fuck, what was it? Next man up? No, that's not. Yeah. Good, good call. Next man up. I like it, Jake. We're going next man up. More team let's be honest. More teams should do next man up. No, it's play eight, trust seven. Now UCLA is going to be play seven, trust six. A lot harder to do. That's a lot of math. Well, that's a basketball play eight, trust seven. When you're in like, you know, March Madness, when you're in the NBA finals, playoffs, play eight, trust seven. Yeah. It's a

good way to go about life. I, there's still probably going to be, Titus was telling us earlier that they're probably going to be one. So they will, they will. So they'll be protected a little bit. This is, it's not good. We, I'd rather not be in this position that I am right now, but I still got my Boilermakers. Yeah. Boiled down, baby. Good thing. No one from Tennessee got injured this week. I know, Jake, right? I'm trying to use one of them. Good thing. No one from Tennessee got injured this week. Nope. No short Kings from Tennessee got hurt. I like, I love that dude, Ziegler. I was going to say spin zone. You know, maybe if you're trying to find one, just picture this in a couple of weeks, cold open before one shining moment. It's the injury Achilles.

Oh, start of the DVD music starts tip off the national. Okay. Cause I can picture it. Saturday of, of the opening weekend, UCLA loses the one eight match up and Max is sitting off the stream and I'm just screaming at him the whole time being like, look what you did. You fucking idiot. And he's just like, I shouldn't have got my hair cut. I'm a bad guy. I might jump in in the boat for, for Nova too. I might put a future on Nova. I might put a future on Nova to win the NIT. Yeah. That actually is good. Yeah. Let's do it. Although those teams usually don't try hard in the NIT. I don't even know if I'll make the NIT. Max is the definition of down bad right now. It's been a bad, it's been a bad three weeks for old maxi. Yes, but he has paid,

he has paid and he's paid up the Super Bowl bet. And yeah, we had a great Saturday, great Sunday of college hoops were gearing up. This is one of my favorite weeks of the year. We'll have some content coming out for it. So it was, it was a very good like wall to wall last something about senior night. Senior night really gets it going, you know, everyone gets the same framed picture of, of their jersey, their families standing behind them. And it's always funny in college basketball because like, if you have your family out for an MVP ward in, in the NBA or the NFL, like you've got money. So everyone's dressed really nice in senior night. It's like, your parents are just looking like your parents. They've always looked like your parents.

I love the giant ribbons that they wear sometimes. That's only a ribbon that you would wear on an occasion where you're walking on to a hardwood floor. We should also talk about maybe the most important college basketball news of the weekend, which is we haven't touched yet. This is from LeBron James. Yeah, just woke up from having a dream. Yes, that MJ and I was shooting this SH asterix plus sign. I think he meant shit back and forth at the men's national championship game between North Carolina slash Duke great vibes and epic classic game. It was a tie game 94 to 94 with five seconds left. UNC with the ball. My ass would wake up to see the bathroom right before seeing the ending of the game. Palm emoji, palm face happens all the time.

Never got to the end. Anyways, felt real as hell. Lol. Good morning, everyone smiling face. So I got to figure out, let's let's just figure out what happened at the end of that game. It's also good to know that that's another way of settling the goat to pay. LeBron James is literally dreaming about hanging out with Michael Jordan. Yeah, Michael Jordan's hanging dreaming about hanging out with LeBron James. Absolutely. Absolutely. Probably dreaming about drinking tequila. I think I think UNC won this game. 97, 97, 94. Yeah, they had the ball. Yeah, UNC had the ball. It was a tie game 94, 94, five seconds left. Incredible last second shot by who are we gonna say made the shot Antoine Jamison Antoine Jamison with with Eric Montross on the assist. Yes. Yes. Tyler Hansboro.

He was he was the coach. Yeah. UNC and then Rashid Wallace smoked LeBron James out after the game. Yes, Hank. One casual take I had watching the Duke UNC game. Oh yeah, that did happen as well. Was no, no, that rivalry is dead, dead over over coach K killed it, which brings me to my next point. I don't even really because I'm not even my Duke fandom has fallen over the years, but I was watching that game. Carolina seems like they're not going to make the tournament. They just seem like a team from a from a casual point of view that somehow wins the ACC tournament and gets in. Oh, they have experience. They've been on a run before. They just got to get hot at the right time. They're not hot very bad this year, but against

good teams, but somehow these teams get in. That's right. That's kind of what happened with UNC to like a different extent. Obviously, last year, those are my keeping an eye out. But UNC actually won games in the regular season last year down the stretch. They won at Duke. The last game coach K ever coached a camera. They haven't they haven't beaten anybody. They beat UVA. They're yeah, their first quad one win was UVA, I believe. Yeah. And their only quad one. Yeah, something I'm looking at. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think what you're going with here, Hank, is that you you like the uniforms. And when you see those uniforms in March, you're like, that uniform usually wins this time of year. It is. It is true. We love came back. I watch

them rip my heart out last year. Bacot probably going to like roll his ankle 17 times, but still put up a double double. These things happen. They just got to get hot. Yeah. Okay. That's true. I don't hate it. It's a good point. If if UNC gets hot, they have the they have the players. That's also one of the experience. That's one of those. They have the name. They have the colors. Yeah. That you won't feel dumb because you're just like, well, it's UNC. Right. That's that's on them, not me. Yeah. They're UNC. Okay. That's that. Yeah. Not a bad thought. Yeah. Duke did win that game. And it is. It's just the fact that it's not played in the 80s anymore is depressing to me. It's sad. It's just sad having coach K not around. It's a major. Be careful what you wish for a

situation where I miss it was we needed coach K around. I miss him. College basketball needs a villain. He was a reason for me to wake up in the morning. Yeah. And now I have no reason to wake up. Nothing. Nothing good in my life. I just stay in bed all day. Yeah. I'm hoping that he'll come out of retirement. It would be nice. What if he just took the team back and was like, I'm going to coach them in the tournament. Yeah. Shires not ready for the tournament yet. Yeah. Must watch tournament. I mean, it already is. Must watch tournament. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Because who knows who's good. I'm just very, very excited. Kansas lost. What if coach K came back, took Duke and then won a national championship? That would kill me. That would be very funny. That would

I'll be honest with you. I would root for Duke if coach K did that. I would root for myself to bury him again. I would root for Duke in that tournament because just the content. Yeah. All right. So a lot of college basketball coming up. Should we talk a little UFC? Yeah. John Jones, the goat is back on awesome card. Like start to finish. I don't know if you guys caught like the the main event card, but the guy Bo Nickel, who I think went to Penn State, who was like a stud wrestler, just an insane wrestler. He's going to be a freak. And then the guy from Kazakhstan, Rachmenov, he is the Terminator. That dude is crazy. He just beat the fuck out of Jeff Lewis's face and then was like, all right, I can't knock you out. You have a really good chin. Let me just

choke you out. Literally put you to sleep standing up. Yeah. He connected on like six or seven straight punches right to his jaw. Yeah. And the dude wasn't crumpling. Yeah. Just like taking the abuse. And yeah, I mean, a solid choke from Stan. You very rarely see that. And the woman's Shevchenko and Grasso. Grasso is a beast. She was like plus 600. Grasso is a tiny little monster. They were saying on the broadcast that Shevchenko I think had like only lost like maybe like one or two rounds in the time that she had the belt. Yeah. Did you see the replay? Joe Rogan pointed this afterwards. Yes. So Grasso choked Shevchenko out. And then when she released the choke, you could see the line on her face where the blood had pooled. Yeah. And where there was

absolutely no blood circulating. Yeah. And the bottom half of her face, there was a clear line there. It looked like Paul Asinger's head in golf where it was just completely white from like the lips down. I don't know what it says about me. But I have, you know, I'm a I'm maybe whatever one step above a UFC casual is because I do probably purchase, I don't know, 10 pay per views a year. So it's like not casual casual. But like, I obviously it's not my, you know, main sport that I'm studying all the time. But in my watching of UFC, I've grown to absolutely love submissions. Yeah. Like I know that they a lot of people don't like the ground and pound and like the wrestling because a lot of times you just don't know what's going on and guys will lay on

each other trying to get an angle for like a whole five minute round, something about a submission. It's so primal. Just watching it. It's crazy. Watching some of the toughest people on planet earth. Yeah. Be like, no moss. Yeah. Can't do it anymore. Just get me out of the situation. And that was John Jones. It was, it happened so fast. Serial gain, like he all he had, it was basically the worst performance you could have because the only memorable highlight you had was kicking your opponent in the dick and then getting choked out within a minute and a half after that. Yeah. John Jones, when he came out there and he stepped in the ring, they made him cut his, his foot wrap off for some reason. It was an illegal foot wrap. And then he stepped in the

ring and I was like, is John Jones fat now? Well, he was fighting a weight off. Yeah. He had to step up, but like he's, he's definitely big in the midsection right now. Although he, we didn't have cause Joe Rogan will call guys out and be like, this guy looks soft. He said that earlier. Jeff Lewis. Yeah. He's like, he looks soft. Yeah. I'll be honest with you. He's soft right now. That's a brutal thing to have happen as you're stepping into the octagon. I think John Jones is the best UFC fighter of all time. I think at this point it's hard to say otherwise because he has that one loss on his record, but that was just for, is for like illegal elbows, right? When he's beaten the fuck out of a guy. Yeah. No, he's the only person who could beat John Jones is John Jones. Yeah.

Or the drug test guy. Well, yeah, his demons. Yeah. So saying like he can't, he had an interview, like it was a while, a long time ago where someone asked him, like, do you think you can stay out of trouble? And he's like, I hope. Yeah. Like he was very honest about it. He wasn't saying like, yeah, I'm going to, I've, I've changed. He's like, no, I, this just keeps happening to me. And I know it's a problem. And don't get me wrong. He is the best UFC fighter of all time, but we don't really talk that much about, you say like demons. I think he's got five failed drug tests, not for like coke or anything. I think he's tested positive five times for doping for like PEDs. And can you imagine if another like the greatest of all time in any other sport had five positive

steroid tests? Yeah, we would probably be like, fuck that guy. We should not count these. But I think in UFC, you kind of take into account that a lot of the other guys are probably doping too. Yeah, they just get away with it. So John Jones greatest fighter of all time, maybe worst steroid user of all time. And also, I mean, let's be honest, not, not the best guy because there's some things on his rap sheet that are very bad. Yeah. So, but he is, yeah, he came back two minutes over. Why can't he fight Francis Neganu? Because he's not in the UFC anymore. Because Dana, Dana White called off negotiations with Francis Neganu. So Francis Neganu start negotiation. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's a very interesting like setup. Now the UFC has because if you were wanting to

tinfoil hat, the UFC wanted John Jones to win last night because surreal gain would have won the belt even though he lost to Francis Neganu. So it would have been like a Mickey Mouse belt. The guy who has the guy who won the belt in the octagon is not in the UFC and someone else owns the belt. Now at least there's a distance between it where John Jones has it. They've never fought. Dana said never. He said never on Friday, I believe. I also saw a resurface clips where he said the same thing about. Yes. Well, that's, that's the best thing is like the, like in the fight game, it's, it's like the fight game and college football coaches. If they say something, they can change their mind within a week. Yeah. The thing about, about Dana White saying never say

never, but I'm saying never is that that's in a weird twisted way, almost better for promoting the eventual fight that would happen. It's like, wait, he said never and it's happening somehow. Like Dana White knows how to sell a fucking fight. Yes. And so he could just reverse course on that. Who knows what Nagani was asking for? Well, he's also, there's rumors that Nagani wants to just get into boxing. Yes. So that was the big sticking point. They were negotiating for a while. He was, there was a price on him fighting John Jones. I think it was like $8 million, but he didn't, his, his main sticking point was if I sign with the UFC, I can't do anything outside the UFC. I want to put potentially box because if he was a good boxer, boxers get paid way more than $8 million.

If they're, if, if he was like going to fight Tyson Fury, right? I don't know how that would work. He, I don't know if they'd just let him fast forward and fight him, but there's a lot of money in boxing for the top level guys. And so he was like, yeah, I don't want to do this because they won't let me like do other things. So I hope it happens. I think everyone wants it to happen. It did look like they were setting Stepe Miocic up for it. Like they want Stepe to do the fight. And then Stepe, when they interviewed him, Stepe was like, you could tell he was like a little afraid to fight John Jones. He didn't seem too super confident after the fight was over. He's a bad dude. He's a bad dude. John, I would not personally, I'm going to say this right now,

never say never. I will never fight John Jones in the UFC. I won't, I won't say that. And I'll double if, if, if Dana White wants to pay me $300 million, I'll get choked out by him. Wait, wait, wait. But he wouldn't, he would just knock you the fuck. Like he wouldn't go for this. No, I would lay down and be like, I take my back. Like here's my back. I mean, it just choked me out. I'll tap. I wonder if I could just go in and just tap. Immediately. Yeah. Just tap on my own arm. The strategy to beating John Jones is to lay down on the ground and hope that he

works with an illegal shot. And then he loses the fight on a technicality. Then you get the belt. You get the belt. What if you had to go longer than a minute and a half? No, I think, I think I've long said, you just beat my concussed brain as I'm flopping like a dead fish. I've long said that I will do anything. If you could literally anything for $100 million. And I think, I think I would fight John Jones for $100 million.

I, I don't think you could even run around. He would just catch you. Billy, you think that you're saying absolutely because you think that you would stand a chance against him. Okay. Billy, can I ask a side question? Yeah. Does Riff Raff want to fight you?

Chuck Borden. I heard a rumor at Ruff and Rowdy on Friday night that Riff Raff wants to call out Billy. Look, I, I don't know. Okay. All right. All right. Okay. No comment.

Riff Raff also huge steroid user and has been boxing for the past three years. And that's like the only thing he does. All right. So you're afraid of Riff Raff. All right. So Billy, I don't think you're ducking Riff Raff right now. I podcast six days a week. I'm not like have a professional trainer who trains me.

He releases music. He makes bangers. Anyway, but what I wanted to say is let's just be, let's just put a bow on it. You are ducking Riff Raff. Whatever. Chail Sonnen said that, uh, Chail Sonnen said that Francis and Ghanu, one of the reasons why they're not re-signing him.

He actually said this on a Robbie Foxx podcast, My Mom's Basement. He said that he wasn't a draw. Like the one that he headlined, the UFC Cardi headlined only did like 30K buys. Francis and Ghanu. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this would be a draw because John Jones, but no, yeah, he,

but they're like, it's not worth paying for it because John Jones is the draw. Like in Ghanu isn't a big draw apparently. So I mean, that's pretty crazy. And also John Jones put on 45 pounds for this fight to get up to the heavyweight level. And he's been, the reason he hasn't fought is because he wanted to get out of the USADA protocol and do what McGregor is doing right now and just juice up. Yeah. So I mean, that, that shouldn't be legal.

Yeah. Francis and Ghanu did tweet at John Jones after saying, good job, Johnny boys. Sincerely the heavyweight king. So if you're, if you're a tinfoil hack guy, this is all working out perfectly for a mega, mega fight. Yeah. Actually, like thinking about what Dana White said about Ghanu,

teeing it up for a rematch and saying, yeah, Ghanu's going to fight John Jones if he wins. That's not nearly as much buzz as if he, as if Dana White physically removes Ghanu from the blacklist. Right. It's like, okay, he can fight again. And that was a, that was a lengthy two week suspension I gave him. I hope you learned his lesson. Yes.

Also, you see the Drikus knockout against who was Brunson. That was brutal. Yes. That was just scary. It was a great, I mean, when UFC like hits and it's just a great card and like there's big names and everything, it's awesome to watch. What are you going to say, Hank? Jake Gyllenhaal is there.

Yeah, I was going to say. Jack, do you think he's on the juice? Well, no, he, congrats Jake Gyllenhaal. He won his fight. Yeah. So they're taping a remake of Roadhouse, which is an abomination because Roadhouse is basically the perfect movie. So he got in the ring in between some fights and taped some scenes of him,

like winning and the ref pulled them off and then he kept on hitting them. Yeah. You can read between the lines about what that scene is going to be. It didn't really make me want to see the movie. So I'm guessing that what happens is at the start of the fight or at the start of the movie, it's Dalton or whoever is playing Dalton in Roadhouse, Jake Gyllenhaal, and he's a UFC fighter and he gets kicked out of UFC for being too violent. Then he goes on to be a bouncer of a bar and then in Florida and then works his way back

into UFC and eventually kicks somebody's ass. That's what I'm guessing. I've never seen Roadhouse. Oh, we're going to do. We're going to start doing man. Man movie Fridays. Pain summer. Pain don't hurt.

Roadhouse or Dalton philosophy major at NYU. And one of the greatest lines of all time when was the bad guy's name. I can't remember when he when he got right behind him. He goes, I used to fuck guys like you in prison. It's like, wait, what? Yeah, good luck coming back from that one. Okay. Bars.

Somebody asked me on Twitter after the fight because I said that that John Jones was an inspiration to cocaine users everywhere. Yeah. Who would be your goats? Your your Mount Rushmore of cocaine athletes. Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor is definitely. Yeah.

Maradona. Maradona is on there. David Bowie, although he became a Nazi when he was deep in Coke. As one does athlete. Yeah, I know. But he like in terms of just like great careers. He was kind of he was kind of an athlete. There's there.

Oh, he fucked Mick Jagger, right? Yeah, he did. I read a story once to David Bowie for like two years of his life. All he ate was hot peppers and milk because that was all he could because he was so addicted to cocaine. And so they would just feed him milk, like whole milk because he was like a baby. The milk was to take away the sting of the hot peppers. And the milk was also just to keep him alive.

Jesus, that's weird. I would put the entire 1980. Was it the 86 Mets? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dale Strawberry and Doc. The entire 86 Mets are up there. Michael Irvin.

Michael Irvin, Rob Ford. You remember when he dropped back to throw that dime? Athlete. Total athlete. No, I was going to say something, but I'm not going to say it. OK. Yeah. And I think you know what I was going to say.

I have a pretty good idea. Yeah. All right. So that was good by us. That's growth by us. Mm hmm. Yeah. All right.

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Yeah fun guys being dudes all time guys being dudes moments there for Ja. Yeah so he was on an Instagram live at the club. I don't know where I think he was had a game in LA Denver Denver. Okay so it was a strip club flashing a gun. I'll just say right so outside of you know the seriousness of what's going on in John Morant's life that was a pussy ass gun to flash. So that thing was so small. I agree.

I've got like it was we all agree right. I've got three major issues with the Instagram live. One was that his gun was like it was half the size of Derringer. It was so small. It was tiny. You can't be flexing. That's not cool. You can't flex a tiny gun like that.

You got to have like a Desert Eagle. You have to have something sick that you're showing off. That's issue number one. Yeah like it would be a big like was it worth it. If it was like a huge awesome gun. If he had an Uzi. I'm not I'm not a gun guy but I said like okay maybe you could talk. That was 100% not.

Yeah it'd be cooler if he was like flexing a taser. Yeah or a big knife. Yeah or like or one of those gel shooters we had in the office. Yeah yeah or a Nerf gun. Actually somebody should do that. Yeah just like flex that sounds like something Yanis would do. It was like remake that video except you get a sick Nerf gun. And everyone would be like Yanis is the best.

And he's so funny. We love him. He's the man. So issue number one was the tiny little gun. This is a cute little guy. Issue number two is that he was streaming himself live. If you're a professional athlete you should just never go live. Anyway there's no reason.

You're live all the time for your job. It's called playing the sport. There's no need to go live. Too much bad shit can happen when you go live. Issue number three is Paul Pierce. Yes issue number three was he had his shirt off. And nobody else had their shirt off at the strip club. I don't know if Jaws confused about what happens at a strip club.

But traditionally you don't go to a strip club to take your shirt off. That's something that usually happens around you with others. Okay. Only counterpoint on that. If I had a sick body and was as rich as Jean Morant and had awesome chains I spent a lot of money on I'd probably take my shirt off a lot. I would not. I would just never wear a shirt.

Yeah. So just be shirtless all the time. Yeah right. But it's it's it's definitely so he's taking two games away I believe. To work on his posting live selfies of gun addiction. He deleted his Instagram. He deleted his Twitter. We're gonna say Billy.

What did he do wrong. So it's been a long list of things. So it's it's funny because everyone not funny but there's been a lot of John Morant is surrounding himself with the wrong people talk. And it's really just John Morant seems like he's the wrong person right now. He's losing it. So he had an incident at the mall where I think his mom got in an argument with someone and then he showed up with his friends and pushed a mall security officer.

He had an incident at his house where he allegedly punched a 17 year old in the face multiple times and then also allegedly came out with a gun in his waistband being like not really like putting his hand on it being like you know but again here. He might have also just been shirtless and that's why you can see the gun. He was maybe not trying to display the gun. He had an incident where his former I think high school teammate Devonte Pack one of his best friends basically went on the court in the Pacers game and then afterwards the Pacers alleged that someone shined a laser that was attached to a gun in the Pacers bus.

Like they basically had like a like a were coming for you after this game and then this. So it's been it's one of those things where there's a lot of like small incidents where he hasn't gotten any trouble but if you're a fan of John Morant if you're a fan of the Grizzlies fan the NBA it definitely is like something's got to change because we're going down a bad path. If there's three headlines that come out about you in the span of maybe a month and a half two months that all involve an incident with a gun yeah might be time to just maybe step away from the gun life for just a little bit and it's sad because John if you look at his contract he stands to make 300 million dollars so much at the end of the season job all job has to do

is to just not get arrested for three months right that's it three months and you get 300 million dollars now if I had as much money as John Morant has right now and I was his age I'd probably fuck around a lot might get in some trouble but he just John Moran just needs to lock himself in a room you can even take the rest of the year off right if you're John I know that the Grizzlies probably would not appreciate that but you have three months until you become a 300 millionaire that's grandkids grandkids grandkids yes grandkids money yes and it's I brought up the uh the the line that a lot of people in using is like he's surrounding himself the wrong people I think that's a lazy take like John Morant is I would imagine the alpha of his friend group

he is the guy who has all this talent who has all these things to lose no one else around him has all these things like he he can dictate his surroundings this is it we shouldn't be like oh man pick better friends like John Morant you have to pick better choices yeah and I don't want to sound preachy because I do love watching him play basketball and he's very young or not you know he's he's not like 18 but he is he's got a lot of career left like there's a lot of time for him to write whatever's going on right now and have it be a very small blip on his career being like oh yeah remember that year that John Morant had like three gun incidents yeah that's crazy he went to the hall fame and won a bunch of titles and MVPs and everything like that is very much on the table

and what I'm hoping happens but yeah not good so to answer your question Billy I don't know about what the state gun laws are in Colorado that's where he was Denver right but I know I know in Texas a lot of bars have this sign up that say if like 51 percent of your revenue comes from alcohol then you're not it's a felony to carry a gun in that establishment so different states have different rules about like where you can bring guns I don't know what the rules are in Denver it might be against the law there it might not be I don't know I'm ignorant about that but I do know that if I'm I'll even take it back if I'm John Morant um just don't go live on Instagram with your gun yeah also might have brought it on the team plane which is something they're looking

at not happy which would be a much bigger problem yeah Colorado you don't need a permit to carry a handgun okay okay well you definitely don't need a permit to carry carry whatever the fuck that pea shooter was it's a strip club gun yeah they give it to you when you walk in yeah the gun was sticky he had like just retrieved it from somewhere yeah imagine if it was like like a fake gun to take tequila shots out of yeah they all just got confused that's what he should do he should be like either yeah either it's a sex toy yeah or it's just like a novelty gun yeah but uh yeah John Morant's got a I mean a good good first move by deleting Twitter and Instagram that feels like a smart move and then someone maybe plexigal burst needs to sit him down be like hey dude

you got a lot of money and this is dumb yeah it's very dumb like he has a lot of money but he stands to make a ton a lot lot of money not forget the money he's like one of the most talented guys in the NBA like that's that's really the what's at stake here is like your talent could be wasted if if things go bad and you're not in the league yeah so figure it out dude yeah figure it out John Morant you're building last thing on the I'm standing behind John Morant through these difficult times by the way I just want that clear okay he was he was a recurring guest I think he's got to figure some things out I'm not going easy on him but I am hoping for a redemption arc and I'm not going to write him off forever you think his dad's giving him that tough love because we said that his dad

was his biggest hater his dad should just make fun of the size of that little tying gun yeah I know we joke about that but reply reply guy said that like you want to carry a small gun in a strip club because if the gun's too big when you're getting like lap like this was on Twitter he was like it might go off you might shoot the stripper like yeah so they're like that was his strip club yeah so it's like it's a strip that's somebody that's also that's also a problem because if you have a strip club gun that means you have a gun for everything you know of course gun you don't just have a strip club gun yeah that's not just like oh I own one gun it's my strip you gotta only bring a strip car on the way to the airport gun yeah that you have yeah you have your practice gun you think

game gun Saturday night ABC special game gun you think job like carries a gun in his or has carried a gun in his like warm-ups during pregame shoot around I don't know I mean that would really be putting Adam Silver to the test it really would but yeah John Merritt there was a moment on Saturday I want to say where John Merritt and Jackson Mahomes were both trending and you're like okay so this would be one of those days welcome back to the internet yeah I hope I hope job figures it out and I hope that he this is will you stand behind him I'm completely stand behind job I think he's got some things that he needs to work out yeah but I think that it's something that can be very easily corrected correct and that's just don't maybe don't carry guns everywhere yeah we're not

going to be the the old men who's like yellow clouds being like John Merritt kick him out of the week yeah I mean I literally had an illegal gun here in New York City for like four years after the Houston Super Bowl that I finally came to my senses and took to the police station and yeah so John listen to PFT it's not a joke except for one PFT did it because it was a joke yeah it was a bit so John maybe you just say it was a bit that you were doing a podcast and start a podcast and uh yeah listen I've been in your shoes John Merritt I know what it's like to be you right now and my best advice would be to just put it in a backpack and take it to a police station and get a $200 voucher for it yes yes he needs a gun guy no no no no he doesn't go in the wrong direction

no but but no because if you have a gun guy that means you eventually you're going to be like hand me might hand me that gun no he's got a rebound form when he goes to the gym yeah what he needs a got a rebound form yeah but not a not a gun guy right not a gun guy exactly he's a trainer personal chef mental health coach not a gun any of those could be a gun no but if you have a gun guy the same problem happens because the gun guy always has multiple guns yeah you like pass me one of those yeah let me let me hold that one yeah that one was cool yeah John Merritt should actually just say that he is he's going into therapy for a gun addiction yeah he's addicted to having a gun holding a gun not using a gun yeah just holding it maybe he gets anxiety without it yeah that's

actually a thing it's like an emotional support gun yeah it's like a pulp here I mean pulp here's kind of the same thing he's like I got stabbed and I carried a gun around for a while after yeah well no I understand that kind of makes sense John Merritt has not been stabbed no I also understand the need for people like that are that young and that rich to have a gun to protect themselves because they are you're a mark yeah they're a target and people that you used to be friends with a long time ago and might not be friends with anymore they might have it in for you so I get it I'm just saying for job for the next three months just just go cold turkey off guns no guns no guns you got this actually you might need a gun in Memphis no Bill you're just trying

Billy sounds like he's like auditioning to be one of John Merritt's friends yeah you can just explain away everything hey John I know that like you told all your friends like no guns but I know you better than they know you and like I got you I got you by the way with the incident where he punched a 17 year old kid on his basketball court John Merritt said that he was like the police officer asked like who threw the first punch he's like well I did but he threw the ball and hit me in the head so I count that as the first punch that is assault assault okay yeah this is again all 17 year old kids not a kid no I agree I agree if he's playing basketball in the face but I think it was like oh he punched a little kid I think one punch in the face

can happen on a basketball court what was said is that there were multiple punches even when he was down and then going into your house to get your gun that feels uh oh that that's too much I need to agree that's not like hey let's just hey guys let's cool out and like check up whose ball I need to see the stats on this 17 year old like the height weight that's important in this in this story he's technically a minor so he they never released his name but he is he was he was invited to a basketball game where he was playing defense against John Merritt so I guarantee he's a good basketball probably a big guy probably a guy who's probably gonna be playing division one basketball again you should not hit a 17 year old right usually unless that 17 year old threw a ball at

your head if it was if it was one of those fouls where like you're going up and he pushes you in the back yeah then I think it's allowed or undercuts you yeah yeah that's yeah it tries to yeah it tries to get up on underneath your feet when you're shooting a three that's how people get hurt or if he grabs your knee and breaks the code all right now we're doing it now we're now we're we can't break the code no you can't break the code have you played basketball in high school recently I have not I'll be on like pick up can't say yeah they like wear air pods while playing in the game it's the most annoying thing ever how many high schoolers this one high schooler no this is like multiple and like you're trying to yell out picks and stuff and they have an airpotting

while they're playing playing music and you're like yeah it's like they think they're like you know what that is that I my initial like reaction should be fuck that kid basketball is not enough and then I just think of like when I'm watching a movie and I'm just staring at my phone it's like yeah yeah the reality is multiple you need multiple things going on that made me feel old as hell that like young kids were doing something that I just felt so like foreign to me if we were in high school I I like to hate on those people but I would definitely be wearing an ear pod or an earbud while it was playing they didn't even have headphones when you guys were in high school yeah uh speaking of ear pods uh air pods uh Hank tried to poor shame me when we

went to Indy because I have cord uh I was just surprised uh they the microphone is way better when you're calling people doing radio hits and also people don't bother you when they see the cord and you don't lose them I was on a streak where I lost them I don't know I lost like four pairs you know in about three months it done I'm on such a hot streak with my current earbuds knock on wood knock on wood I've had him for like nine months this is the longest I've ever kept anything in my life so Hank uh should we talk about Anthony Richardson yeah I'm kind of offended that wasn't the start of the show or once in a generation talent showed out showed out his stats I don't know how you can be a yeah I don't know how you can be a GM and not risk everything to get

number one uh broke the record for verticals for quarterbacks in the combine so uh pretty crazy because he broke the record uh the previous eight guys Josh Portis uh was second uh he played at Cal California University of Pennsylvania I didn't know that existed oh yeah Penn West uh Brad Smith so these are some hallfamers that he beat out RG3 Tim Tebow Nick Marshall Tyrod Taylor and and Byron Bennett so you can illustrious grouping he's in I'll say this if you completely ignore all the times that he's played football he's the can't miss prospect it is great I just just from a a measurement stand I will say that whatever like there's uh crazy combine stats I I do like to just look at them all and be like holy fuck yeah this guy I mean Anthony Richardson is

a dude uh who's a guy from once in a generation talent who's a guy from Georgia I think he's from Georgia the defense alignment that ran like no one spent four three nine yeah fuck that yeah crazy fuck that we also had uh uh four two seven from from uh DJ Turner from Michigan which is great like I know that the times have been getting lower and lower but it's still nuts whenever anyone runs I I always like my eyes pop out whenever anyone runs under a four four yeah I'm like holy shit or when when a fat guy breaks five yeah still blows my mind yes yes there was also some news from uh I think Rappaport tweeted out Florida offensive tackle Richard Gourage Richard Gourage came into the combine healthy but woke up with a swollen ankle

after a pain tolerance test created an injury sources say he'd been planning to do all drills but now he won't be able to thanks to the situation caused during his medical exams a team gave him a pain tolerance test oh at first when I read that I was like that seems insane to do that but then I thought about it I was like actually yeah like you you get hurt a lot in the NFL I want to know what this pain tolerance test was like are they poking a needle I was okay this I didn't say this so it's not mean for what I'm about to say I'll just say they could have just played Billy's three hour podcast solo podcast pain tolerance that's true yeah that's against the Geneva Convention if you were if you were that would be an all-time pain time like I just just sit him down be like

all right here here's some headphones and just walk out of the room be like what the fuck am I listening to for pain tolerance you do have to know if they're going to be mentally prepared to play on the Falcons yes that would be good to know going into it like how much shit can you eat okay yeah the jets can take you now I I feel like pain tolerance test is is pretty straightforward it's like shut your finger in a car door bang your shin on a low coffee table step on a lego step on a lego that these are all real pain tolerance tests that we go through I just imagine like Mark Davis and the Raiders draft room they've just got a it's like a scene from jackass where they have a hotel room and it just covered in mousetrap yeah and in order for him to walk over and shake your hand

he has to get past all yes yes it's just a yeah we just played jackass for a day yeah I mean pain tolerance could also just be maxed out on squat and then just sit on a toilet and you have to wipe like a hundred times don't cry are we are you standard no I sit sit to wipe no I'm saying but like you know when your legs are just in here just like so sore yeah yeah just something like that pain tolerance it does make sense right sucks at this guy's not going to be able to work out because some team pushed him too far and paint actually that might be on him he should have tapped yeah you get a tap that's on taps are allowed at any time yes yeah um and then Bryce young got measured so Bryce young uh five ten and a quarter two oh four so whatever he did it worked to get

above two hundred you just couldn't have a one at the start of that number it was it was basically his agent and nutritionists were like if we can just get to the exact same height and weight as Kyler Murray people will just say oh he's Kyler Murray even though we watched him play and he did not play at 204 pounds no and they're also they're very different quarterbacks yes and how they play the game of course but I did I actually ran the BMI on Bryce young okay for his exact height and weight 29.3 he's borderline obese yeah he's too fat to draft this guy's this guy's a tub of shit how pumped must he have been when he got off that scale he's like oh I don't have to eat 100 like 10 000 calories a day oh that's like three gallons of water I chugged before I got on here

he probably sprinted to the bathroom ran to go take a piss they were probably feeding him like force feeding him like a goose that you're trying to turn into foie gras before this weigh in yeah just drink all the water probably eight dessert for breakfast sounds sounds like my life yeah I would be really good at loading up for the combine I would this is this would be my pre-combine preparation would be where I would truly excel to try to gain yeah if you got if they gave you two weeks how much weight do you think you could put on because I think I can realistically I think I could put on 25 pounds in two weeks on 30 plus no problem yeah no problem I do today I went to I took my kids to the ice cream museum at 10 a.m. and we got like through the first door and they

started handing us free ice cream and I was like shit why did I do 10 a.m. for the ice cream museum isn't ice museum it's awesome the history of ice it sounds like something that a parent would make up no to their kids like hey you get straight a is we're going to the ice cream museum you guys check it out it actually like it ruled but yeah I how no disrespect but how fat you dragged your kids along with you no there was a lot of kid friendly shit there was a whole pool of sprinkles how they got to jump in how fat there was plastic with the other parents that were there that were taking their kids to the ice cream museum no everyone was everyone was fine everyone was fine because I'm a fan of a lot of things but I don't know that I go to museums

for them no the ice cream museum I'll have some people backing me up I listen there was one guy one dad I always have these moments when I'm out at these things and one dad was like hey man like just getting through it love your work and I was like thanks bro that's nice yeah we used to live in the dream we used to work in the dream in the ice cream museum at 10 a.m. we used to work right next door to the museum of sex in in hq2 yeah but the even being a horny guy the fact that the word museum was on there yeah kept me away from yeah I had four cups it was all free after you got me in the tickets were expensive but then it was free it's actually genius all inclusive I just yeah yeah tickets were interactive it was very interactive good it was extremely interactive

history of ice cream I would go to the facts you guys don't fucking know I'll go to a case of museum when was it invented history of ice cream oh the ice cream like it was like I didn't read any of the shit it's like 600 or something that's like the one thing that you should learn at the ice cream museum I knew the carvel guy invented soft serve okay what's uh what's the most ice cream anybody's ever eaten probably me at the history of ice cream museum because it wasn't four yeah what was the bathroom I lied about the bathroom situation really how many how many rooms were there because there was a shitload of room so that's how much ice cream it was fun you guys should go don't hate it I'm not hating it it's just very funny that you're like I took my kids yeah the ice cream

museum at 10 a.m yeah no that part was a mistake but it's when it opened so I was like fuck it let's go yeah Bryce Young should go to the ice cream museum keeps that 204 on I've always argued ice cream is should be a breakfast staple agreed it's it's any time it's way better than like these sugary cereals and it's got way more protein and good point stuff like milk it's healthy I you ever eat like the the fake low carb ice cream no it's gross it's really gross I halo top I had an idea a couple years ago yeah I bet you do Jake makes you not feel guilty yeah shut up but I had an idea a couple years ago that was just it was just to sell like healthy ice cream and then it was just full ice cream but nobody would ever know because you wouldn't list that on the nutrition you'd be

like that's totally healthy low sugar but just make it full-blown absolute custard yeah you're selling but then somebody told me that Seinfeld invented it was a Seinfeld episode yeah but all were gaining weights weight with the frozen yogurt yeah but yeah check out I'm I'm giving stamp approval history of ice cream museum uh okay anything else that we missed this weekend uh yeah the the Suns beat the Mavs oh yeah those yeah and then Luca at the end this is an all-time quote from Luca Donchich he he was mad that Kevin Durant waited until the last second to talk trash to him yeah once the Suns took the lead which is you typically do talk trash when you have it I guess his thing was like it takes a real man to talk shit when you're losing yeah which I guess fair point

yeah but yeah I mean why wouldn't you they took the lead and he missed Luca missed a easy layup yeah talk some shit but I mean I don't think most people don't talk shit when they're losing yeah Pat Pav probably does definitely does probably talks more yeah Luca and uh Devin Booker almost kissed it was uh there it was a very odd uh standoff where they both were smiling uh but Luca does have it like I know Kevin Durant's now on the Suns but he did bounce him from the playoffs last year yeah so he does kind of have that over them I'm still I'm all in on these Suns I am I am Chris Paul get that shit this year Chris Paul had a had a real insult tweet hold on let me see if I can find it about uh where where the Suns are at as a team hold on it was so after the game yeah here

it is it's from Bobby Marks uh who I think works for ESPN very smart guy NBA front office uh like insider he said fourth quarter uh for Chris Paul and Ish Wainwright 14 points four for six from three as great as Kevin Durant and Devin Booker are this team stinks sinks or swims based on the rest of the roster so Chris Paul and Ish Wainwright are now the same same guy yeah it's tough you can't do it all by yourself sometimes sometimes you need Ish it's also just a very funny thing to say because like yeah uh breaking news your two best players can't score all the points but they can try and and they sometimes almost can like the game was close because Tim Hardaway went nuclear from three at the beginning of the game well and Ish in the fourth quarter well no I'm saying the on the MAV

side so every team has this yeah we have other guys to score a little you have other players on the team that contribute for sure yeah I just I don't see a way that Chris Paul loses this year I don't see it well uh I so that was gonna be my who's back is the NBA just doing a really good job with these like marquee matchups now that we're out of football season because Max Saturday night the the the Sixers Hank would you like to say thank you oh no why did the Sixers beat the Bucks oh and the Bucks yeah Celtics are fighting for the for the one seeder and it was a great comeback James Harden I think James Harden 38 38 yeah it was do you want to say thanks no at all no either way these marquee matchups like I watched that whole game it was awesome same so good job

by the NBA uh okay you're losing to the Knicks right now I know okay PFT I'm sorry to say James Madison has been eliminated all right the 30 year drought continues South Alabama the eight seeds gonna move on to the championship it's bullshit that their initials are USA and the crowd chants USA for them you can't root 75 66 Jack tough tough break always next year for the Dukes no pizza party though so I save a couple thousand bucks yeah can I can I say something real quick I bet on South Alabama because what you bet on Purdue okay whatever it was a revenge bet for me all right whatever I I support Wisconsin I support your bets I didn't say till after yeah but you did bet on Purdue when Wisconsin had to win that game I also bet on the Eagles

they had to win that game I also bet on the Eagles they didn't Hank shut up um you didn't they didn't I did yeah Hank put three dollars three dollars three dollar future yeah I did want James Madison although you said what if we just play in the NIT Wisconsin versus James Madison so I think I think that James you would have had to win this game and then probably play a great game in the finals and lose to even yeah it's not good that's bullshit the NIT what about CBI we couldn't beat in the CBI that that would actually be very losing to Minnesota right now there could be CBI you're getting into the NIT there's a rule about if you're a mid-major one seed and you get balanced you're an autobid to the NIT so Southern Miss they're taking that from us they're going

to be in the NIT that's a bad rule damn that is let the kids play it out on the court yeah yeah no Wisconsin CIT Wisconsin might not make the CBI that'd be great so if we played in the CBI what a game I think I love the CBI I bet the CBI all the time was that the one that the trophy used to be a pineapple I can't remember I don't that might have been the other one they're like JV CBI I think the CBI and the CIT are the two tournaments where I can confidently say I've bet on almost every game and I think I've watched none of them so I don't I don't I don't have any memories of watching a CBI game betting on them yes updating a score app yes CBI and CIT shout out the golden pineapple there is the golden pineapple uh wait that might be a rivalry trophy in college

football there was a pineapple there was a pineapple trophy trust me on that one I trust you okay I trust your memory bonk fuck yeah why let's say isn't that a bonk yeah that's a bonk why just is Hank did you ever bonk yourself for out of control right now what happened what did we Hank had a bonk off air that he had to do and he forgot what was it fuck it's gonna kill me I was hankin in the morning in Indy god damn it oh yeah yeah he's a big fan of the k-atom show oh yeah that's right that's right yeah you got yeah you told us all about it how you watch it all you watched literally four hours of it once yeah and then uh and then Hank said that Pete made him watch it yeah that's why he was watching for like homework and then I texted Pete yeah I was like Pete

did you tell Hank to watch this this is and Pete was afraid I was mad at him yeah because you were watching a competitor's live stream and and I was like no Hank just told me that you told him to watch it yes he's like oh no absolutely not that didn't happen just be on the lookout because k-atoms are usually usually retweet like a few dudes being like hey k you look awesome today that's probably Hank's part yeah always like when it's the egg accounts it's just a picture from across a room of k-atoms eight in the morning like oh you look so hot talking football that's Hank yep this is one of the more outrageous twisting of words that I've been a part of and I won't forget it I won't oh you won't what are you gonna do Hank I eat shit all the time because you guys bogusly claim that

I'm horny yeah the pineapple doesn't even make up things that you said and then repeat them as if they're fact this is what did you or did you not everything down and watch a k-atom show everything we said was a direct quote yeah no that's not true but that's fun how much how many hours straight did you watch k-atoms zero that's that's that's a lie I noticed that when I declared my masturbation strike against Dan Snyder you did not say I'll match I did not also a little cleanup on the shifter show on Friday Hank did better commanders future yeah that sucks yeah great interview by the way great interview with that sucked yeah in the Super Bowl no left hand up what happens to win the Super Bowl oh no what if it happens though Hank and we're geniuses and then everything's

happy if there ever a cash out pops up it's it's I'm cashing out well you have to be in Indiana oh great hey crazier things it's got a nice to get one surefire loss out of the way before the season even starts though just flush it out of your yeah just let's get get one out of here I know I'm probably gonna lose week one anyways okay let's do who's back is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light carving out time in your calendar to kick back and relax can be tough with so much going on but you owe it to yourself to carve out some time to chill and when that time comes around reach for a Coors Light the beer that's made to chill Coors Light is my favorite beer the coldest beer March Madness coming up Coors Light is going to be the beer I choose so when I'm

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barstool sports visors yeah I like it I did wear a visor when we were with Marlins man at the all-star game you guys pointed that out but besides that I don't think I've ever worn a visor looks great it's just something that I've never gotten into maybe I'm a visor guy although as my hair gets thinner I am going to need some top what if what if you made a visor that had a full top enclosed on it though they definitely like Guy Fieri I think you're wearing that it's called a hat yeah I might be a hat guy you're a hat guy I'm a hat guy is that it that's it all right uh my who's back of the week and I'm gonna need it's this is a team effort this is a team effort need your support and AWLs and need your support as well my who's

back of the week is Leroy yes the breaking news dog yes my old dog RIP Leroy passed away about two years ago he was our insider here on part of my take he broke some pretty big news stories and scooped the big J's on a number of them Schefter poked the bear when he fucked with us on Friday sure when he when he tried to pull the wool over our eyes and pretend that Lamar Jackson was going to the commanders I was perfectly fine leaving Leroy on the sidelines and then whenever I get a new dog maybe that dog can learn how to break news too but fuck you Schefter you've made a powerful enemy in Leroy I reactivated his account it's the ghost of Leroy so now my dead dog we're making a mission for my dead dog to beat Schefter on at least two scoops this upcoming

free agency season don't send them fake scoops do not that's what I'm saying it's a team effort Hank we want this to be a success and he's good at figuring out fake scoops so he's at Leroy insider and the beauty of the show is we have so many people that work in like semi-related capacities to some of these transactions that are going on that we have he's got like a 60 40 track record and putting out good scoops which is that's not bad it's better than throwing darts at dartboard so Leroy's back he's going to try to break the Aaron Rodgers news you know what he should just break the air and we should just say like he's coming back to the Packers yeah and then it's like 50 50 that'll be right yeah why not what's what's the downside there's none right

because who cares if my dead dog right wrong about right and if the upside is incredible is a dead dog scooped the entire NFL on this Leroy was fond of a darkness retreat he was blind you know what Leroy is first report Adam Schefter Adam Schefter is late on this news Aaron Rodgers is returning to the Green Bay Packers for the upcoming season damn it I have to respect it it's ruined I'm sorry yeah he cares about one thing the truth damn um all right welcome back we we got to fuck Schefter yeah we're gonna fuck him good right in the fucking I'm gonna I'm gonna come right in his eye I'm gonna come yeah we're also gonna play uh golf with Schefter which is gonna be very funny yeah like further clean up on the interview

I can genuinely say I like Adam Schefter oh I like him a lot he's a great guy yes no I and I also like the fact that we can give him shit like between now and next year's combine he will do something that I will make fun of him for and like drag him for and he won't take it personal no he won't that's like the perfect pardon my take relationship yep um okay my who's back of the week it was gonna be the NBA because the NBA is very back also check out this shirt if you're watching on youtube uh what stand up stand up it's my uh just cover it's the mantra for March make your free throws attack the rim run the floor close out hit your jumpers and remember they're just kids because remember they are just kids but my who's back of the week is uh Travis

Kelsey and SNL I didn't watch but I saw a clip yeah and I laughed I saw a couple clips too I saw I laughed at the all clip I thought it was funny the uh there was a skit that was I think cut because of I don't know when they run long because it's a live show uh it was guys that you can hire to pick up your girlfriend oh that didn't make it in the show that was a clip I saw yeah it was funny yeah the best part of the show didn't even air okay so it was just girls girls that want to be like picked up and thrown around by their boyfriends if you're dating a small guy Travis Kelsey will come over to your house and just throw you onto a counter yeah like I I hate the uh there's sports on bro what are you watching people but when people were tweeting about Travis Kelsey last night

while the UFC had a great card and max ruined the UCLA season I was like what are we doing guys there's there's sports there's sports on there's sports on right now we can watch this later uh unless you have seven screens yeah that's true well I'll see the highlights later I I'll put SNL on mute and then I just judge it based on that yes bad bad show yes but yeah the the the clip I saw seemed funny oh we didn't talk at all about Tom Brady did you see the picture of Tom Brady is he okay Hank I'm I'm worried about Tom Brady he's gonna have a good retirement good come on Hank I mean he's trying to step on our toes in in the stand-up comedy arena it looked like I guess that's kind of our toes it looks like you're getting into the plastic surgery world you're

you're next you can't I well it's cool sculpting hang it's not plastic but you can't judge I'm not judging I'm I'm worried he looked gaunt yeah I like Tom Brady now but he's he looks like he's sick I thought it looked great how skinny can he get he's doing no he's doing a reverse Bryce Young yeah we'll find out I'm enjoying retirement okay is he doesn't know what offensive linemen do that's really skinny yeah that's true that's true uh Billy my who's back is OJ Simpson oh great oh OJ Simpson uh was kind enough to weigh in on the Alec Murdoch trials who just got in Murdoch Murdoch it's pronounced like a thousand different ways it's not just Alec or Alec it's Alec Murdoch and sometimes it's Alec yeah it's like different accents okay really weird it's spelled with an X

I know but they say Alec yeah out Murdoch that I wanted him to cry yeah I was mad he didn't cry he doesn't have a soul I like guys I like I want my my uh double homicide people to cry yeah his strategy his defense strategy was like show up looking as ill as possible yeah so you know how they tell they tell women when they go on trial like put some dye your hair as dark as you can and then put on glasses to make you look like a librarian with him he was like I'm just gonna put on a mask and just be as gaunt as possible he also the defense strategy of all those other things I did or that you're accusing me of I did I didn't kill my wife and son yeah however but yeah like all the extortion all the the the financial malfeasance all the all those other

crimes hand up that was me and you know what the big one you're saying I didn't do that I do have a history of hiring hitmen but in the past I've only used them to kill me yeah right right Jesus but yeah what OJ say OJ's was just talking about how uh the judicial system works and basically how he could get off yeah and it was just it was like one of those like remember when NATO's contacted Ray Lewis yeah it was like what like what the hell this is like a simulation yeah I can't believe the balls on OJ to just like to to go online with a video of like here's my advice if you're accused of a double homicide yeah I guess he was not guilty yeah yeah yeah okay good who's back uh Jake uh my who's back is boomers football season might be over but we have a best of boomers coming out on

YouTube I believe on Tuesday so subscribe check it out uh behind the scenes crew love a great job with that can't wait to see what they picked love it uh also who's back is going to the final four because Syracuse is in the final four for the barstool best bar tournament six are they gonna win an ACC tournament game uh maybe they got wake they eat wake yesterday now is Jim behind going to not retire uh I don't know but they're going to Greensboro I believe he's made some comments about Greensboro before yeah what just like he hates it yeah he hates his bro that's those the comments I'm a Greensboro I don't think he likes the tournament there I think Jim Bayheim is at the age where he hates anything that's just not his own home I'm a Greensboro guy I take that as disrespect

my family's from Greensboro you better step the fuck off Jim Bayheim is he still is he still like talking about how everyone's figured out his zone and how he's still not going to change it hey they've been to the sweet 16 like three of the last like six oh no you're doing what no don't do that you sound like Jim Bayheim well here's the thing the standard is higher at Syracuse yeah the teams that don't see it all the time their fate they yeah so the ACC tournament yeah that's probably not yeah yeah I think they've won like one or two ACC tournament games in like 10 years wait am I crazy didn't they move the ACC tournament away from Greensboro it's been Greensboro it's Brooklyn Charlotte okay but they're keeping it in the rotation it should always sometimes does Brooklyn

like the this year yeah it ends in Brooklyn it should always be in Greensboro it was always in Greensboro that's where the ACC tournament's played yeah yeah so that's great but Syracuse is in the final four hashtag Syracuse BBT okay uh yeah what bar it's just the bar towns this year the best bar town yeah okay how many how many bars did you go to in college uh there was a rotation of like three or four would you say it's an elite bar town course okay good waters oh yeah the coldest the coldest water is light in the state of here great waters course light water all the time okay yeah all right thank you Jake uh let's get to our interview Matt Eberfluss and Ryan Poles you got a quick ad before that right

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Indy ready to go we got a lot to get to but I wanted to bring up something before we start so we've been doing the show for seven years now this is the earliest we've ever woken up for an interview it's 8 a.m so I know you guys are in full combine mode of like judging the character of a man and like they're they're get off and their determination what does that say about us that we're up this because like you don't understand this is the early we don't get up this early for interviews yeah yeah well I would say that it means a lot to us I mean you guys you know the dedication for you guys to get up you know I know you guys went to bed at two in the morning so man it is it is really important to us that you guys have done this for okay we had a big dinner

last night oh you did yeah we're still digesting it right now but you know what it's fine it's you know dealing with a little adversity right now you gotta have to demonstrate some grit and uh and overcome that so yeah I mean waking up at seven o'clock in the morning is as big of the compliment as we can pay to anybody yes yes agreed yeah I think when Brandon hit me up I was just like any other time like literally any other time so we're here we're ready to go you guys obviously are the talk of the town because number one pick um what let's start here how many smoke screens should we put out right now are we still in smoke screen season or once shifter says the number one pick is on the table smoke screen season is over it's not over yet okay yeah just we can keep

so that thing you're telling me about the Raiders before that was true we're not supposed to talk about well no I mean that's smoke screen okay yeah right I'm not sure we're right now or is it not right right okay see I'm confused no I got a money to water so I like how does it work when you when it gets announced like hey number one picks for sale uh you immediately start getting calls or was this something everyone's been talking and it's fluid the whole time yeah it's been fluid the whole time and they kind of just builds up you know obviously you know when everyone gets together you know in Indy that's where people start talking so it's heating up pretty good and I think we're in a good position how many times have you guys watched draft day

zero oh I'm having an answer you haven't watched draft day I get that question I watched pieces of it but not the whole thing I if I were in your this is probably why you're successful and I'm not a general manager is I would just sit down do all my prep by watching Kevin Costa from draft yeah yeah but I have heard that you guys are you know you're having fun interviews with people you're bringing them into are you in a hotel room you got like a suite set up you're playing putt putt you're doing it's over at Lucas oil in the suites okay the lower suites there so who's the best at putt putt this guy right here uh Ian Cunningham made a bomb yesterday okay so you know all right it was it was unbelievable now we certainly practiced of course but we give the

players you know three putts at it and the coach only gets one what are you looking for do you want a player to be good at putt putt because me personally I would not want a player to be really good at putt putt oh it depends you know the skill players are pretty good at it you know quarterbacks all play golf you know a lot of the receivers surprisingly play golf so it was uh all the big guys always pick darts you know hey man give me some darts and then they find out it's like double the length you know it's not a normal I mean it's a long it's a bomb shot yeah so so when you're watching that um are you looking for someone who gets like upset if they miss it like I would if I were uh being drafted I would go in there I'd miss it and I'd be like motherfucker throw the

thing and maybe be like I got to control my emotion more but man do I play with some edge like I would just say that you can see some competitive mission there with those guys for sure especially when I say oh it's tied now who's gonna win and then yet we always throw that in there and one more shot and so what were the options that you put out for him it's putt putt darts and what else that's it right now yeah okay we only got two yeah we're gonna do about two minutes should we add something uh twister yeah maybe you guys would play twister with him twister huh I think that's a little odd yeah that's a little odd I'm thinking outside the box between the two of you who has final say on what on a draft pick who has final say right here

yeah well you just had final say on that question oh on the game you you just gave you awarded him final say so wouldn't you say that you technically have final say that's true you you gave him final say so essentially you do okay well really the the cool thing is um we we don't really have to worry about that much our relationships awesome and you know we work through this together because it's that kind of partnership you gotta have yeah um because we want to be on the same page and we talk about developing players all the time and I think if if everyone's on board you're getting buy in all the way across the organization right and the biggest thing with that is that we've spent so many hours and so much time talking about the profile of the player by position

you know so him and I talk about this all the time when we see it you know eye to eye in terms of what we want to have at each position yeah what the traits are what the makeup of the man is and that's so important to be on the same page and we've spent you know we continue to do it yeah doing it yesterday you know talking about that so it's a it's an important piece to it is there one specific trait that you would say trumps everything is it maybe intelligence speed like is there one that it's it's kind of like a baseline we need this to even go to the next part of this evaluation yeah it's for us it's passion for the game and that's the cool thing about these interviews is kind of what you you know break the ice with you know the darts in the

pup hut and and guys sit down and you throw the film on you see this body language from the guys that it's like different they get to the edge of their seat and they see the play like damn he like why you why did you pick this play like you know what play this is yeah even hit start yet right like yeah I got beat on this play I wish I had that one back where there's other guys where it's like you know just kind of we have no emotions there so the guys that get to the edge of the seat they show it you feel it you're like I jump the car let's go back to Chicago yeah no I like that answer because when you talk to you know we get to talk to a lot of players a lot of successful players and a lot of it is like you have to love football to a point because you're gonna have to

eat some shit and do some things and play through some injuries yeah so can you has anyone in your evaluation career you don't have to name names but has anyone able to been able to like fake loving football in those moments and then you're like you get them on the team you're like well I would say this there's no faking when you're playing right you know so we always judge the number so we look at the tape the tape tells us passion the tape tells us love you know and then we can figure out hey because we want you know if you love football you're gonna practice that way too yeah just shut it on and off you know during game time so that's how we do all the investigative work yeah that the scouts do and spend the whole year doing and then we're gonna do that now when we go to the pro days

and all that so yeah it's always on the tape yeah were you guys watching the Colts Texans game live I forget if you were playing at that no we were playing yeah we were playing we were in a locker yeah did you go back and watch the end of that game and you're like holy shit that's incredible you know it's funny like all that was going on I kind of got I was told that that's what happened and I've talked about this before I wasn't really in the mood to to go there yet because it's still a weird thing right like you don't want to be the first pick it's a it's cool opportunity now you'd rather be the first and second though right but at the moment disagree listen I'll give you a little tip yeah I'll give you a little tip right there is only one team that can win a Super Bowl

everyone else is a loser yeah except the team that has the first pick we are literally the second best team yeah because we have we're the only other team that took something away from this season there's a first pick in the Super Bowl right that's it but you're you've lost to get into no no no no say don't worry about the the how we got there I'm just saying we just like that don't worry about that part only two people are walking away with something in their back pocket one's got a ring one's got the first pick that's not bad yeah I'm not I'm not buying I'm not buying that listen you can you can take my phone number and whenever you need a spin zone I'll just I'll whip one right right right I got it yeah but yeah so that that happens and then are you immediately like okay

this is we did not expect this to happen because it was like the Bears weren't it never felt like like the way you kind of figured out the one pick like sometime in December but it wasn't some of these teams you know early on the season it's like they're going to be the one pick like that's what's happening yeah yeah it was crazy how that played out because it wasn't until 12 24 hours after I was watching a play I'm like holy crap yeah it's insane how it happened so yeah it was awesome caught everybody by surprise yeah it was a lot a lot a lot of fun um all right so let's talk about the first pick uh I don't know if you brought a pen and paste uh paper but I have some thoughts okay let me hear I ran a mock draft yeah I'm just gonna rip through it real quick

and let you know what I'm able to do and see if you can get up to my standard uh so first pick was traded to the Texans for pick 2 12 33 and two first rounders next year wow yeah then we traded this the the two pick that we got from the Texans to the Seahawks for pick 5 20 and a first rounder next year then the five pick to the Falcons for 8 44 and a first rounder next year and then the eight pick to the Lions for 18 and a first rounder next year so I ended up with six first rounders next year can you think like it's not that hard it's not right just keep going keep trading keep going are you is there a cap on how many trades you're willing to there's no cap love it yeah just keep trading get them all get all the pay every bit yes just for two years get all the pay but

is there it like I this is very stupid question because we're just dumb fans but um like there is a part of us uh fans that like watch me like maybe just keep getting picks and keep trading down there's gotta be a point where you're like hey we actually need players on the team correct yeah so correct yeah yeah it's uh it's a balance of it right like you want to have opportunity but the same time you do um you put the players and the evaluations in these value buckets right so you want to be able to play that game to say I have this many guys at this level that can I packed our team in this round all right that's how far we can go back so you you have to put that into the equation as well yeah I had a red flag that came up I did my research on you guys much

like you look at prospects are coming in big red flag on this side of the table for you Mr. Poles okay what do you got your LinkedIn profile still says that you're on the Kansas City Chiefs oh no are you not all in on the bears oh no attention to detail matters in this league Mr. Poles yeah I don't log into that account much oh well maybe you should because it's very confusing there might be some another GM might you know fire up LinkedIn and be like I want to I want to find me on there LinkedIn I didn't find you exactly do you have a profile yeah yeah you're all business yeah yeah you're a football coach this guy's out here he's he's trying to make connections with people yeah so yeah you gotta get somebody on that details matter yeah we'll clean it up was there ever a

point when you guys got hired like we're like this is kind of fucked up that we just replaced Matt and Ryan and we're Matt and Ryan no it was it was a little bit weird yeah yeah yeah yeah but after that it was just move on again you gotta understand these are the things that fans think about yeah we're very dumb so these are like we're like uh-oh same names how does this work I did I did read that uh you'd worked with with our friend Rob Ryan yeah for a while and um he's all-time football guy just just a total legend was he ever it's hard to like envision him as being a mentor to anybody yeah Rob's just a guy that you hang out with you know he's a cool guy yeah but what was that relationship between you and him like because he's a fascinating guy yeah so I was sitting at

my desk at the University of Missouri I was the uh decoordinator and assistant head coach at the time working for Gary Pinkle and I got a phone call I picked it up and they said uh it says hello uh it didn't say his name right and I'm sitting there talking to this guy and he said hey you know we're looking to interview you I want to bring you in we're bringing some college guys and to coach the linebackers and and then about five minutes goes by and I said what what place is this he goes oh the Cleveland Browns I said okay that's cool he goes I said I had to hop and do a recruiting meeting here uh you know at eight o'clock and so I hopped in there then I came back and called him back and he said hey we want to interview you for the linebacker job with the Cleveland Browns and I

said yeah I'll come in and so I went in there and the interview was a marathon interview it was with him and Eric Mangini and it went on forever I got there at 10 I did not stop interviewing until two in the morning holy shit and then they offered me the job you know at two in the morning and what they did was Rob would teach me defenses all day and then after dinner I had to like teach him back to Eric Mangini so I just did that we did it you know it took a couple breaks and uh eventually they offered me the job and I took it if I was in an interview that lasted that long I would be like I quit I don't even have the job it was fun because it was ball you know we're talking ball the whole time so it was uh to me it was it was fascinating to learn a different way to do things and how

they did stuff and it was pretty cool okay so off that there's a lot of um not debate but you hear it different coaches talking like a Bruce Arians would be like look we get in we do our work we leave like that's that's part that's what football is you don't have to sit here till three in the morning and pretend that you're grinding and sleep at the office what style are you more accustomed to and how do you run like the the coaching staff everything's going on it could go for you as well Ryan where it's like what's the mantra is it you guys are working till you know four in the morning or is it just get your job done and you can go enjoy your life yeah I think that's uh you know you have a schedule and and you know we start work at six and usually end around 10 10 30 at you

know for the long days you know so it's not you know too much you know then you get to sleep and you're going to have some lack of sleep those first couple days and game plan days you know the Mondays the Tuesdays and then once you get the players in then we start to catch back up on sleep but uh I also understand that each guy and I give him this latitude a little bit that you know there's morning guys and there's night guys you know there's all you know human beings are that way you know some guys wake up at 4 a.m some guys like to stay up till midnight you know and that's cool just as long as you get your work done okay you didn't give us that latitude just so we're clear no you were 8 a.m yeah and we're not morning guys that's what it is yeah really a lot of people

would hear 8 a.m and be like that's not morning yes that's normal time for yeah that's not their day 8 a.m is a normal day yeah we both so what about you Ryan are you there's got to be a point where you're doing scouting you're like guys we've gone over this so many times yeah yeah you don't want to overcook it I mean there's times where you can overanalyze this thing and start to spin and you're getting too many opinions so there's there's a time to shut it down and you feel comfortable everyone's on the same page because the way we meet we're all in the room together it's a collaborative deal and it truly is I mean we'll go at it if there's two different opinions which is fun but then when we make a decision everyone's on board so we we grind we sprint

and then we try to take some time to gas up so that we have clarity yeah decisions yeah coach I I have a red flag for you as well and I'm not sure if we'll see if it's a red well yeah I'm not sure if it's a real fact but it's a fact that I read on the internet so I'm pretty sure it's real okay it says that you have four cats oh incorrect I have two cats okay we're adopted when I was in Dallas okay okay and named after the movie Frozen Anna and Elsa okay so it's incorrect so the four cats thing is that we can dispel that don't use your kids to get out of this if you're a cat guy you're a cat well I've been around ladies my whole life so I got two daughters and I got my wife of 27 years so they are certainly cat people and now I am a cat person can you

can we say definitively that we're drawing the line at two cats because you get three cats you might as well have seven right you're a crazy guy at that point and and like sometimes you look at the cats and you're like I kind of wish this was a dog do you ever do that no oh no I never feel like taking them out for a walk no that's red flag yeah that's red flag that's a red flag have you ever asked a player do or would you identify as a cat or a dog like which one do you like more that's another classic like GM question that we've heard I don't think I do that anymore really I don't think I like it we're talking about like you know the science has moved on done with that we've got some advanced stuff now we're on to like ping pong balls in 747

exactly that kind of stuff so yeah so you guys you don't have the weird questions it has everyone I would do the weird question just to see if they react like there's no good answer just see what they say it's one weird question you should do it we'll start throwing it yeah throw it out there you know think of a weird question they would do or do you like when you shake their hands are you trying to outgrip them in that initial handshake are you monitoring how how good their grip is we should analyze that because it's you get the whole spectrum yeah yeah because the there's you know the soft ones concerning yes dead fish and then there's guys that try to break your hand like what are we trying to do yeah what I always look out for is um is if I do a like

real nice firm handshake on somebody and then they go over the top and you can tell that they're trying to prove something yeah in the handshake I don't like that I like just solid handshake eye contact two seconds break it off clean we're moving on if you've ever had someone throw you the one that goes straight to the forum oh yeah the and you feel like you're in a secret society yeah you're like what's going on here yeah I just I sort of sweat thinking that that makes me very uncomfortable uh go ahead just a real football question if we could talk a little ball how awesome was it when you discovered that Justin Fields is a great quarterback this year um it was it was cool to see the maturation you know during the course of the year um you

know him learning the new offense you know and then you know midway through kind of take off you know we you know scored a lot of points during that time and he really took ownership of that and you know his leadership just kept growing and growing and growing during the course of the year so certainly excited about that like I've stated you know obviously he has things to work on like like everybody else on the team does and to grow into the second year so we'll see where it goes yeah was there a point um that the switch flip for the coaching staff as well because it did feel like going through the season somewhere around it was like around that the Monday night football game in New England where it was like okay we're going to use him differently and it's

starting to be more effective yeah so we know we had that mini buy you know so we had the Thursday game you know the Washington game in Chicago what's that would happen who won that game I forgot who won that game yeah but Fields actually almost won that game because remember you had that like 50 yard run in the fourth quarter with like two minutes left so we kind of won it with cool plays yeah it's two decent plays at the end you know to win it yep uh but yeah so then we looked at it you know we always do this every single week but we look at every player okay what he can improve on you know during the course of that time and then we say okay what's going to be the plan going forward to improve him and of course we do that unit you know by unit two offense defense and kicking

and we just put our heads together you know and said hey you know let's implement some of these things that you know enhances skill set and uh and utilize his skill set and uh that's what we did yeah it was I mean it was it was very exciting to watch him you know grow and and some of the running plays and I agree passing we're going to work on um I had a question for you coach though about your start so Nick Saban coached you at Toledo yeah I mean that's pretty crazy considering what he's done what he's accomplished since then did you have any idea when you're playing for Nick Saban like this guy is different than every other coach I've ever been around yeah uh we so we started off uh with the uh he had a team meeting and he said to us he goes what's you're about to go through

because we're gonna start winner conditioning which is his winning edge program and he said it'll be the hardest thing you ever do right and you know players are looking around and saying okay you know sure sure right and then man you get up for those six a.m. workouts and he's got 16 stations that he does and by the time we got halfway through it we had I think we had eight scholarship guys quit um so and I had shin split so bad I could really walk down the stairs because we did it at what's used to be called Centennial Hall it's the basketball arena so we would do like you know sprint 300 yard laps and then you do mat drills and different things like that and then then we got the spring ball and uh one of the comments that he you know I stepped up on a

trap play and I hit the guy for a tfl and I was over you know hit him pretty good and I look up and coach Saban's over top of me and he said hey you know it's celebrating he said don't worry about that play worry about the next play you know so he was flipping you know one play at a time type of mentality but you could certainly see in his demeanor and how he operated things and attention to detail yeah um that we were he was building a champion at that point and I've taken that with me yeah all the way through because he is uh just uh standing from day one um from my perspective as a player uh you could see that his leadership skills and his attention to detail was off the charts yeah I can tell when you're just talking about hitting somebody I can tell you miss it a

little bit you miss that contact I always do I'm a I'm an aggressive person by nature I love I used to love your cat guy though so not that yeah yeah we'll see I sized you up when I walked in I'm not concerned you miss that contact right yeah I you know I I loved it I enjoyed that part of the game and I like to coach that into the players um you know I really appreciate guys that like that part of the game that style the physical style of it and I'm always drawn to those guys um when I'm watching the tape you know with Ryan and and it's certainly something fun to you know the to enhance yeah in a player we're going to get back to the Bears guys in a second before we do they're brought to you by better help this show is brought to you by

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the guys that I love to watch because you know obviously a great evaluation by Ryan last year to the playmaking ability but also the hitting the striking ability you know we in our system we always say quickness instincts and strike you know and those guys that have those abilities are very important to us and that's what we look at for players so speaking of playing days you obviously Ryan you played at Boston College offensive lineman do you find yourself drawing does your eye draw to the offensive lineman when you're watching tape and are you like have you found yourself being able to be better at grading and analyzing offensive lineman because you actually played the position yeah there's just a little details that you're kind

of drawn to and you see it's it's angles it's it's field instinct you know part of the game that stands out a little bit more and over my career obviously that starts to bleed in other positions but it's always starting there where you have a good you feel like you have a good flow all right so you need to have a good offensive line that's basically what we're yeah okay that's that's so speaking of that in the draft is it best position available or is it value just like we will just take anyone it's it is value um and then certain positions are weighted a little bit different to be stacked ahead of you know positions that are smart what you did because we can't let everyone else know that's position available yeah you got to just like hey

let's just let's grab anyone yep we'll do it because you don't want people to be like oh they need this so we don't we can jump in front of them we're just taking anyone anyone anyone any person even a quarterback see this smoke yeah smoke screen yeah we could take a quarterback if you guys drafted uh you know four quarterbacks in the in the first six rounds of the draft let's get your fucking nuts how would you feel about that let's go crazy yeah right right yeah you they can't expect final say right now just final say them on four quarter yeah let's get a fucking nice yeah are there when you're when you're taking these calls and you're obviously hearing from a bunch of teams that are you know putting two other packages competing so you can move up you're evaluating

everything are there different teams and general managers that you you see the notification from you're like i gotta deal with this guy again like are there is there a team that you would prefer to deal the pick to as opposed to other teams no no and i got i got good relationships with most of them so um yeah open to talk to anybody so but it would it matter at all if you dealt the pick inside the division yeah that takes a little a little more to do that for sure there's a premium on that yeah exactly like that big premium big premium big premium okay um coach i got a problem we got to fix your acronyms so you have an acronym hits yeah is that right i do so what does it stand for i don't know you tell me okay hustle intensity takeaways and taking care of the football

and smart situational football the t and the s are a lot we gotta get it to one word yeah well you can do the t just the ball okay and then then the s can just be smart okay all right that was figured it out that was i mean how i mean you're just getting too wordy i mean well that's what i was saying i saw it and i was like i was saying just do hitting people is the shit hits i like that so that's just very easy right off and then what's the the other one is the m&m principle right which i like that one that's motor and mean okay yep so which one which one means more you need the motor or the mean oh you need them both which one if you had to pick one because that's for a defense alignment yeah you got to have that the motor and the mean yeah the motor i don't know if

you had great motor and then you go to go ahead and strike somebody and you kind of just kind of ooze into it i mean what does it really mean then yeah if you is it a perfect like you want 5050 the exact same motor and mean yeah i want them i want them all 100% okay if you have if you have mean but no motor then you're just kind of just an asshole yeah it's kind of like you're just getting penalized motor you're you're not mean you're just a fast guy yeah like you're a track guy motor and mean it's got to be had to have a disposition yeah yeah it's a position and the disposition oh i like that that's a good sign feel free to use it yeah we will we'll steal that one yes that's an easy one how do we feel about getting a dome in chicago pro or con

no i think it's a good opportunity to do a lot it's a good answer that's a great that's a that's a great answer at all times of the year yes yes because just when we interviewed him he said like it'd be cool to have a dome i think a lot of offensive players probably would feel that way but is there anything about if you're interviewing a guy um that's going to be playing in chicago do you want him to enjoy cold weather yeah i think it tells you a little bit about his toughness too yeah yeah guys that play in the cold no sleeves were you no sleeve guy no sleeve at bc no no no sleeve were you no sleeve guy no sleeves yeah i like that yeah you can't do it what about uh free agency so you like it's it's obviously one of the busiest times for you guys right now because

not only do you have the number one pick we have a lot of cap space yeah is there gonna be a like first day big splash we thinking about making a big splash letting everyone know hey look at what we just bought or are we gonna be a little more conservative is there i wouldn't say it's somewhere in between okay somewhere in between yeah we guys that are gonna you know help us win and get us in the right direction but at the same time we're still going to be disciplined with with the approach so we don't want to do anything you know crazy that's going to hurt us on the road we kind of want to find that sweet spot where we can do this for a long time okay i like that answer you guys are smart guys you're a smart how did you guys meet oh it's a couple years ago um linked up was that

we were playing golf there yeah in florida and got to know each other um and then there were some you know people that i worked with that worked with coach um so we got to kind of do our homework on each other that way too yeah yep had a few phone calls over the years did you know like when you were interviewing for the position like i i feel like i got i feel like i'm nailing these interviews feel like i've got a good shot well i know that when him and i you know started to build our relationship i could certainly see us working together um because we had the same philosophies we cared about the same things you know we put the players first we always want to serve the players uh and help them to become better and uh that's where our hearts were and you could feel that

right away so that was the most important thing because you start with foundation of people you know that's the most important thing and then are you like you know you know in terms of like having that same vision and uh i certainly felt that all the way uh through and still you know still have us to do and it's just building and building our relationships getting stronger and stronger so it's been cool i i didn't know that much about you coming into this interview but what i can tell just from sitting at a table with you and hearing you talk you've got you have the coach's accent when i hear your accent that's that's football coach to me it's like a little bit gruden is that the ohio coming out is that what that is um i i just been blessed to have a lot

of great examples of coaches you know from you know gary pinkel who just got in the hall of fame i worked for him 18 years and then nick sabin for that you know a short amount of time the impact that he had and then all the position coaches you know uh coach peas dean peas just retired i was with him he won two super roles as a defensive coordinator um tom ams such was the head coach at teledo um you know he had a fantastic record there so a lot of really good successful coaches but really good men um to be able to uh really show me the way i'm also moving you up in my power rankings of which coaches could beat up other coaches yeah no you definitely moved up the look you gave me when i was like you're a cat guy yeah soft you you want to jump

across table you're allowed to hit him yeah no that's when we do our post grades after this we're like that guy's got some mean and motor yeah that's that's good yeah we're pushing all the right buttons and you i think i feel like you could beat up a majority of the general managers right oh yeah i'll let you figure that out and you're right yeah you guys definitely size each other up when you're making trades yeah you guys are it's like anything else in life you're trying to alpha each other a little bit yeah and again these are the dumb things that we think of as fans where we're just like in the middle of like july we'll say what team would win the super bowl if it was just a fist fight between the coaches shit like that right be careful variable though it's

like dirty um ryan question about the uh start of your time in chicago you obviously had the roquan contract stuff in the summer yeah ends up being in a trade um how do you think that all like looking back on it went down do you do you have any regrets or like hey i wish i'd handled this differently because that was you got thrown right into it like that was immediately this is a tough situation yeah figure out a way to get through it yeah no i knew coming in that you always have to stand your toes and adjust and adapt and um but no with that situation you know i felt like we had a system we had a process i talked about it a lot just in terms of how we're gonna value certain positions and players um we're gonna put that together and we're gonna stick with it

there's some flexibility there that you try to work um and i felt like we did that and at the end of the day i thought the result was great you know roquan got the contract he was looking for um we got some draft capital and we'll just continue to build that way but i couldn't be happier for yeah and then what about the chase clay pool trade so yeah i i'm a fan of it i think this story is not done that's my line correct some people online are saying we got fleeced yeah yeah this is the way it's just the way that it goes down i think at the end of the day it was the opportunity to you know get another receiver on the team that can affect the game i've talked about this too where this is where it's different than basketball and baseball it's not

just plug and play immediately there was offseason workouts there's training camp all of that that he didn't get and then especially for an outside receiver there's a relationship piece with a with a quarterback that there's trust especially big body receivers that when he can test the situations you got to trust that even if you don't see it and i know in this offseason you're going to get some work together and that relationship is going to grow so i don't think the story is written i got confidence in it yes and at some points you know in this game you got to take chances you got to step out and and do things and then right there it was opportunity to get our team better our offense better and give justin you know another weapon to throw to

i got your back on that so don't worry because i uh ran into chase clay pool at the super bowl and he knew my name so i was like i'm a fan of yours for life so i'm gonna you and i might we might both get fired just going down to chase plate but we'll do it i'll we'll be back to back and like no we didn't get fleeced we're not owned so don't worry i got you you got me fighting coach did you uh did you work with justin fields on his tackling after watching that film i'm trying to take out michael parsons just like stepping over him i did not know he's tackling improved this year that was that was bad he shouldn't be doing that very much yeah yeah that's smart it's just like don't don't hurt yourself but also maybe just touch him if he's already down on the ground i'd actually

prefer he did it the way i know it was embarrassing but um probably jay cutler's best year with the bears he went out with an injury because he broke his thumb tackling after an interception so let's just maybe get him out about like just get out of there get you know don't even worry about it there's just no interceptions yeah we're no interceptions that that's probably the best offense good call defense what do you think about the orange jerseys how are we feeling do you feel feel like the team has a different personality because again we'll see like a different jersey color and be like oh that team looks awesome today they're gonna be sick do you do you think the guys play different in different jerseys no i do not all right that's a dumb question and also i

disagree with your answer respectfully yeah that's just you it's the dion you look good you play good like that that happens so you never ever see it right i think it's in the preparation not in the jersey yeah i would again like i would i like that a coach says this yeah but i kind of it'd be a big big red like deep down like i kind of want him to admit like if you have a bad week of preparation you could just be like let's just put out a really sick jersey and everyone that'll make everything gonna be good yeah i feel like actually have like bear fur on it yeah we have no game playing guys but fucking color rush let's go it's gonna be sick uh coach why are we not using full backs anymore good question we use full back just in the in general in the nfl oh okay what's with the demand

i think i think the utilization of full back is is an important thing that's why we have one you know so it's a it's an important piece to it um i would say that uh you know a lot of the college game is is coming up you know to the pro game and uh in you know many instances they're not using full backs and i think that's a big case of it um but uh we certainly value full backs and we think it's an important piece the pendulum is is swinging back a little bit because for a while it felt like there were maybe one or two teams that actually had like a full-time full right and you see the top teams doing it right georgia and alabama they they all have full backs and different you know two back sets so yeah even at at the professional level when everything is you know so high-paced and so

specialized do you think that there's still room in the game or a need in the game to have a guy like a full back who will just go out there and hit somebody and just establish like a physical tone to it yeah i think it creates a lot of problems for the defense you know when you create different formation sets and if you have a guy that can really do a damage in the passing game you know have a route tree out there when he's flexed out and then bring him back and it creates an obviously an additional gap in the run game you know so there's a lot of problems it creates for the defense we're big fans of full backs yeah because it also just looks cool yeah there's hat on hat neck roll yeah just run the run the damn ball yep the music roll in the back yeah do you like to

run the damn ball for the 49ers you should great yeah awesome great weapon yes all time probably all-star all-star i would say well jon kuhn i would say i like jon kuhn uh yeah that's that's fair but his average i think was exactly 3.0 yards per carry so the old saying was like you need one yard he'll get you three you need five yards he'll get you three yeah he was just you know plug-and-play right all-star he was a little flashy sometimes but he got the job who's your guys favorite full backs just guys talking full backs oh i'd probably go back a little bit who's with the Chargers lorenzo oh yeah lorenzo he's a hammer he's a hammer yeah he's a hammer yeah i think he was awesome i think he uh he blocked for 10 consecutive thousand yard rushers yeah

crazy what about you i'm an all-star guy yeah yeah yeah because we played him way back when i was coaching in college so yeah i certainly respect him yeah he's a beast yeah we were lucky enough to know him and he's come on the show a bunch of time he actually gave us the um some game-worn jerseys and it's so funny how they go down to like our ankles yeah they're so big they were yeah yeah right they're huge back then it's funny because uh him and lorenzo came on our show at the same time and we set up our bench press we have bench press in our studio that we rarely use uh but we broke it out on special occasion for these guys lorenzo hopped on there and i think he put up 185 something like 52 times no way just kept going kept going kept going do you guys when you're

looking at bench press for players coming into the nfl is that do you does that exercise actually factor into any decision making that you're doing whether or not you want to draft this guy or is bench press like a relic of the past or just we're looking at the extremes you know if you get one yeah concerning yeah that would be fair like kevin durant didn't even get any right so so that's what we're saying you get you know a certain number over what 25 yeah you're good what if it's like a quarterback that's putting up remember brady quinn he hopped on there and yeah it doesn't move then you know yeah at all yeah yeah what about what about uh the we're still waiting so we're gonna air this on monday but it's friday morning uh the brice young like height watch

everyone's waiting with bated breath do you do you think it actually matters as much as the internet is saying or it's like come on the guy can play i think it's it's like anything else like what do you have because a lot of times if you focus on what guys don't have you're kind of blinded from you know their strengths and you know the way that guy plays the game and sees it you know i think he does some things to overcome you know those shortcomings yeah well also it's more important to measure to the eyes who really cares what happens in the forehead region that's wasted space where their eyes are that's the real metric i think you might have high eyes we don't know yeah potentially we should measure that yeah like paint manning just wasted his entire

four he did yeah bust another boss right what about hand size do you guys pay attention to hand size and quarterbacks uh yeah i mean we we look at it but then again you watch the tape and it kind of tells everything you need to know if playing in different weather if you have no issues then you're fine yeah yeah um how coach when you were on when you're coaching with the Colts philb river is one of our favorite quarterbacks uh did you ever get him to swear around you maybe in practice when you're dialing up on defense like god fucking damn it no nothing nothing no he is fantastic though yeah yeah we i loved working with him our defensive guys love going against him all spring and during training camp and it was competitive but it was fun spirited you know it

was really really cool it was on the edge of it and it was really got us you know going during practice and uh he's phenomenal yeah who's the biggest competitor during practice you've ever been around uh i would say shack Leonard yeah he's a monster yeah he's the when i had him uh those four years he was ultra competitive the entire time yeah full full tilt the entire time during practice and do you watch like thursday night football monday night football sunday night football or after you're done with the game you're just you go back and you're you go back to work no i watch it yeah you watch all that stuff i do do you have a favorite set of announcers uh no i don't i don't really watch that part of it yeah the tv copy i do watch you know just to see the the

replays and all those things during the course of the week but uh i don't have the volume on what about i like that that's that's a big football guy move what about uh the analytics part of the game yeah that's huge you know you have a guy do you have like a nerd that's just around and you're like this is my nerd yeah we have we have several guys that work in our analytics department that we both utilize on both side you know on both sides on the football side and the scouting side it's a very important part for us do you ever get mad at them mad at them yeah mad at the analytics people no when they're they're no because why would you get mad at them they would withhold information from you you don't want to do that you want to get leadership yeah you want to be able

to divulge all the information they have so how do you go about figuring out um uh like hypothetical situation fourth quarter uh how much time's left two minutes two minutes a little less than two minutes like 150 to something like that okay how many timeouts you have three timeouts okay and you're down by eight points okay okay and it's fourth and goal yeah fourth and goal on the eight yard line okay down by eight points yeah three timeouts left okay do go for it try score touch down again you're down by eight or do you kick a field goal now you have to go there yeah smart yeah you gotta go hypothetically that's smart some people some coaching the league might be like hey we're down eight let's try to kick three field goals to win the game by one and also

time there's not a coach in the league it would say that there's one coach yeah he's not here right now yeah yeah he's got a french name no it's battle floor he's an idiot so uh we we've we're friends with him but we've brought up that hypothetical probably 3 000 times on this show so uh he'll text us and be like why do you guys keep doing that why not yeah it's a pretty pretty basic math problem yes what about this one you're down 14 points uh there's what two minutes 30 seconds left in the game you still you just scored a touchdown do you go for two or do you kick an extra point so now i'm down seven well you're down six because you just scored the touchdown okay do you do kick the extra point to go down seven or do you go for two to go down six potential

kick the extra point okay all right yeah this is one we had one smart person tell us two minutes too long you gotta go for two well i was looking back 10 minutes ago yeah that's true you gotta go for two you go for two because help me but you go for two because that way it's about 50 50 chance that you convert the two-point conversion so if you miss it the first time then you can go for two the second time and if you make it the first time you can win the game with an extra point there you go there we go we knew it we we know it's um all right last question this has been awesome it's a row back question rhoback.com use promo code take you get 20 off performance joggers q zips polos that one right there beautiful mardi gras one uh row back.com

rhoback.com 20 off your first purchase what are we gonna do with the first pick let's just say we'll cut this part i can't tell you though just we'll cut this it's too early we'll cut this it's too early how many who's called how many calls how many calls let's do that that's totally a few oh well we again i think you guys get our vibe we're pretty dumb uh hank doesn't know the difference between a couple and a few so why don't we give it an exact number hank's gonna have to figure it out we're gonna be here all day yeah hank and his head was we're gonna hold you yeah that was two calls they got two calls all right so we're starting all right and then we we obviously we're we're moving to chicago we're gonna open up a big office you guys are welcome we would love to have you come

and compete so we can let's do it see the dog and you the motor the mean all that stuff i just let you hit big cat i'll just let you take him out yeah and while i'm just like cat guy yeah you like cats i think i'm not owned what about this what about this if if the bears win a super bowl if you win a super bowl with the bears big cat will you get a cat oh yeah oh you know you get two cats i'll get fucking 10 cats yeah i'll get 10 there we go we're gonna hold you to it i'll get 10 cats if if the bears win a super bowl love it there we go well under your guys watch you guys can bring us there yeah i think maybe like 75 years maybe they'll win one i'm not gonna get like actually i'll be like old so it has to be nice yeah um we've this interview has gone way too long uh thank you

guys so much well obviously best of luck thank you let's let's let's wheel and deal we will let's wheel you need a supporting your plan i got a lot of work you listen you need a smoke screen you let me know you have you go through the channels i'll start smoke screening i'm here for you guys whatever you need okay appreciate it all right all right thank you all right matt eberfluss and ryan polis are brought to you by omega accounting solutions attention small business owners you may be eligible to receive up to $26,000 per employee through the employee retention credit you are a responsible business owner who continue to pay taxes and employee staff during the pandemic recover the payroll taxes you overpaid as a refund

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hank have you ever gotten the lottery ball no daniel we were out the wild and indy how many times did you get it couple well no you've never gotten it yeah you're right damn how many different people would you say and indy came up to you and just gave you numbers i told you that they got it all right just people will get yeah a couple people told me they got it which just is extremely disrespectful uh and just people would just whisper in my ear as i walk by i like that stop doing that by the way congratulations pft the one week anniversary for you getting it thank you yeah that was uh yeah you're right actually seven days ago right now right now right this second and then you remember when i didn't i fall started yeah and then hank took my number yeah and then i

took a new number and it won yeah and then i won 36 000 dollars wow yeah hank still owes me money for that do you think you saw me close is anything like well we'll take like six weeks hank and southwestern merchandise which is on the way and then right yeah i've said once i get that you'll get your your money do you think you've had every number recommended to you like all 100 that'd be impossible well no no like all 100 possible numbers you think people oh no because he's never gotten the right number recommended to him do you ever do you ever take into account people's advice when determining what you're gonna pick sometimes yeah i have a good one for this someone did me my suggestion for today you have a good number yeah okay it's a hot one okay numbers six nine fifteen

ew for anthony richerson 18 seriously i'll do 17 then tibo 15 20 i'm gonna go 33 larry bird maybe the greatest athlete of all time 25 saw the five ending you were close hank kind of one out of two a lot recently um another winner for max homa oh yeah today uh i had that twice in a month i'm actually mad because i had him to finish top ten he couldn't fucking do that what a fucking piece of shit some people were saying it was mickey mouse last time but now twice yeah oh fuck you hank oh hank's trying to call me to interrupt it stop stop stop you're such a bitch he's not picking up anyway he's probably on a fucking private chat good hank keeps trying to

FaceTime me why would you do that this is for the awls yeah it is okay max homa just won again no we didn't yeah he did wait isn't the players next week so they go from orland to jacksville that's probably yeah he just doesn't want to answer no he's probably on a private jet he did show so he should have been top 10 did you see took his shoes and socks off and stood in the lake to hit a shot yeah that was a that was a good visual he sucks apparently there's an alligator in that lake too could he got killed well i'll just put it on a texan with all of us hank so that he can see and respond to it all right that's the show love you guys i've been going on a deep dive and rabbit hole on sloth bears uh they're the most vicious animal on earth i think more vicious

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