Pardon My Take - Best of 2018 (featuring Mark Wahlberg, Baker Mayfield, Ed Orgeron & more)

Episode Date: December 27, 2018

It's been a great year for Pardon My Take and as a thank you we have put together the best moments of 2018 in this podcast. We have the best moments from interviews including Baker Mayfield (16:01-29:...21) Ed Orgeron (29:24-40:10) Gordon Hayward (40:15-51:19), Mark Wahlberg (52:00-1:03:35), Von Miller (1:03:38-1:15:12), Blake Bortles (1:15:14-1:18:20),Rachel Nichols (1:22:00-1:24:52), CJ McCollum (1:24:53-1:36:17),John Cena (1:36:18-1:40:16). Plus we have a bonus two interviews with Kevin Smith (1:44:15-2:05:27) and Charles “Peanut” Tillman (2:05:28-2:35:29). We end off with the Best of Fastest 2 Minutes (2:39:21-2:44:44) Best of Fantasy Fuccbois (2:44:48-2:57:57) and Best of Grab Bag (2:57:58-3:09:17). Happy New Year to everyone and remember Year of the Core starts January 1st. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, it is the best of 2018. We have some of our best moments, our best interviews, plus two new interviews with Kevin Smith and Peanut Tillman, plus a little week 17 preview for you to get ready for that and the football playoffs, the college football playoffs. Before we get to all of that, pardon my take is brought to you by Cash App, the number
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Starting point is 00:02:36 Welcome to part of my take presented by Ckeek. Today is Thursday, December 27th and it is the best of, yes, the best of PFT, 2018 was a great year. It was a very good year. We were going back through the archives, some solid interviews, we've got some great ones coming up. Yep. I think we've got what?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Baker. Cocho. Blake Bortles, Rachel Nichols, Vaughn Miller, a ton of really fun interviews. I'm reading it right now. Hold on. Keep going. Keep talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 No, it was a great year. It was a great year for part of my take and I think I'm just really looking forward to 2019. Wahlberg. Creating some new memories. Yes. So we have all of those for you. We also have two new interviews coming up, Kevin Smith and Peanut Tillman.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We're gonna tell you when to stop if you have to work on Friday or Monday to ration out this mega long best of episode. But thank you all for subscribing and being part of this show. It's been a fun 2018. Before we start, all the best of stuff though, and then two new interviews that I mentioned that we got to talk a little week, 17 coming up. So we have the winning you get in Colts versus Titans, which is going to be, I don't actually know if it's going to be a fun game.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, it's not going to be a fun game because these aren't fun teams. No, they are not. They're not. I think the Titans are like this year's, well, the Titans and the Colts are this year's. Are we sure they're good? Yeah. We're sure they're a good bowl and the winner gets to lose in the first round. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Or if they tie, it's the winner get in or tie in bye bye game. I just came up with that right now. Pretty solid. So yeah. So Pittsburgh could squeak in there if they do tie, which god damn, I really hope that it does happen. It would be so good. They almost tied, didn't they, when they played earlier this year?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah, that was the famous free ball. That was Frank Reich. Erno Frank Reich, yeah. Yeah, he went for it on like fourth and eight or something like that. So if they had, if he hadn't done that, wow, it's, I don't even think about that. The sliding doors moment right there for sure. That hurt my brain. So yeah, that's going to be the big one.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That's going to be the night game, which is, I like that they flex that. Yes. Weird flex, but okay. Yeah. And they make all, so basically for week 17, this is a little pro tip for you. If you are still doing family stuff, if you're still, you know, on vacation or wherever you may be, if you want to look like you are sacrificing yourself for family time and being like a normal human being, what we call a normal human being functioning in society,
Starting point is 00:04:59 you got to say, announced to the world, you know what? I don't have to watch all of Sunday's football. I could miss the first half of the, of the one o'clock games because the way they've stacked it, the one o'clock games, the only thing that matters is the Texans game and the Patriots game for that two, three seats. It's just for seating. That's it. So all the, all the good games in the afternoon, so you can just basically pretend like you
Starting point is 00:05:21 are being this hero like, Hey, you know what, let's go, let's, yeah, let's go do some, let's go for a walk. The NFL has given you a well adjusted pass. For a three hour window on Sunday and then, and then your significant other or your parents or whoever will be like, wait, I thought you love football. Like why aren't you watching? I do, but you know what? Not as much as I love you.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Let's go apple picking. Yeah, let's go do. Oh, the frost. Oh, it's December. Oh, whatever. You know what I mean. Hey, ride. That's October.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh, fuck. I guess I don't do anything in the fall except watch football. Yeah, they're literally giving you this though because you're going to need it. Once the playoffs start Saturday and Sunday, you're back to being booked. So take the first half of the one o'clock games and just make a huge show of it. You got to, when I say make a show of it, I'm saying like, you got to walk around the house being like, Hey guys, let's go do something. Playing an activity.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. I don't even need to watch football and then right at like two 30, like shit, I got to get home. Diarrhea. Got to go. Yeah. And make sure to walk past someplace that's playing the games and then just like look at them and be like, you know, that's really sad that people are spending such a beautiful
Starting point is 00:06:23 day. This is the time of year where you're supposed to be around family and these guys are in a bar. They probably have their fantasy championship week, 17, watching weirdos. Yeah. God. Gross. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I got to get back. Yeah. So in the NFC, we have actually some important games. I, we're taping this a few days before it airs, but I do think the, I think the Bears are going to play all their starters because they do need, like they can still get that two seed and to give up that two seed would be kind of stupid, just willingly. But the Eagles are sitting there like, come on Bears, you got to win this game. Cause they, they need help and who else needs it?
Starting point is 00:06:59 No, the Seahawks are in the rest of the NFC is kind of set in that way. Yeah. The only thing is, um, I think the San Francisco 49ers are the kings of, of showing up and playing a good game. Scrappy games. Yeah. It gets most, most anybody, but they're not going to beat the Rams. No, they probably won't.
Starting point is 00:07:13 They probably won't. So I think the Bears, they, you guys are going to get the three seeds. You know what? Be happy with it. You know what we got? Scoreboard watching. People like to say that, like, oh, do you think they'll be scoreboard watching? And then like, no, you know, the coach is saying, no, we're going to worry about
Starting point is 00:07:26 ourselves. My favorite is, is when you scoreboard watching, my favorite is when coaches pretend that they don't know what else happened when they're at the podium. Right. It's like, dude, come on. Like you have an iPhone in your pocket on the sidelines and you have a guy who comes up to you right after the game and tells you exactly what happened. I wonder if any coaches have like checked Twitter during a game.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I would. Yeah, I would too. What are they saying about me? Like, maybe check out perfect booties. Yeah. How's the camera? Like, am I looking okay on the sidelines? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I didn't forget where I put the flag or anything. Yeah, exactly. You got to make sure you're not a mean. Yeah. Let's do, before we get to all of our best stuff, let's do a quick prediction for the college football playoffs. So it's Saturday night, college football playoffs, Alabama playing Oklahoma. I'm taking the over no matter what it's like 80, but that's one of those ones they're
Starting point is 00:08:08 challenging me. Let's do it. They're telling me you won't do this. And I fucking will. What's the word with to, I think he's playing and I am, I don't think the, I thought Oklahoma had a chance right up until they gave Kyler Murray the husband because we've talked about this, but Nick Saban, if he has one little piece of motivation that even is a little bit real being like, they gave the husband to Kyler, they don't think too is the husband.
Starting point is 00:08:33 He will hammer that in their heads and they will destroy a team. So if I had to lean, spread on that game, I guess I would take how about 14 is a ton. That's a lot. That's a lot. I could see it happening. It has there been a game this year where Oklahoma was falling behind like big, they were down. Yeah. But how big was it?
Starting point is 00:08:54 They came back. I can't remember the exact. Maybe like, maybe like 14 or 20 points or something like that. I just wonder what happens if in the first half of that game, before halftime, Alabama gets up like 21, three scores. I wonder what Oklahoma does. It's a turtle. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You think they turtle? I don't know. I don't know if they got the guts. Yo, yo, yo, you're talking about guts now. You're challenging. They were, uh, they were down, uh, 20, oh, no, no, no, they weren't, never mind. I'm trying to find it on the fly, but I can't check the wind probability chart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. Oh, yeah. If it hits a 90 or above, how does Oklahoma respond to that? Oh, they were down. They were down 21 points against Texas. Okay. All right. So I guess, I guess, but that's a rivalry game.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah. It's got throughout record books. Yeah. I can, I can talk myself into a point that I'm trying to make no matter how many times my facts are refuted. The beauty of what we do. It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 No, I think it, my guess is it's going to be Alabama and my heart is leaning towards them covering the spread. Okay. So I'm going to go over and then the other game, Notre Dame versus Clemson, here's ready for this. And this is, this is exactly how you are not supposed to gamble. Like 100% never do this. What I'm about to say.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I can't take both favorites. So I'm taking Notre Dame and I think they might win the game solely because of the other game. Like if you look at your betting card before a Sunday and you're betting, you got to like mix up a little bit. I do that too sometimes. Yeah. I do that.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I mean, you should never, ever do what I'm about to do, but I think Alabama will win by a million. Therefore, I think Notre Dame, now you could just play it the other way. You could be like, I'm going to take Clemson and wait because they play first and if they win by a million, then take Oklahoma. I think Clemson has a much, much better head coach. Branko is pretty damn good. No, I don't think he, I don't think he's that great.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I think that Davos, a lot of games, I mean, if you, if you were to start a program tomorrow and you had your choice of any head coach in the country, Nick Saban, obviously Brian Kelly would be what? Like Mike Leach. 10. Yeah. He would. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah. Davo would probably be number two if not Mike Leach, because he just, well, a lot of fun. Can Dana? Dana? Is Urban still in the hospital? So Urban will be my number two. So you, well, you haven't lost to a rival yet.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So he'd still be interested in playing. Okay. So Urban will be my number two. Then yeah, you're right. Davo with three. So Davo three, coach 04 maybe. Yep. Dana five.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yes. Dana five. No. No. Coach 04. Who else are your friends with? Coach. Coach.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And Dana are tied for four. Yep. Then number six is Mike Leach because he's been on the show. Yep. Jason Candel was really nice to us. Yeah. Kurt Farrance. Oh, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:33 Kurt Farrance. Yeah. Excuse me. Pathet Cheryl. Bo Pallini. Yeah. Bo Pallini. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And then somewhere would be Brian Kelly. He'd be around 10 is my point. So I think, I think Davo was like probably the second best coach in the country. Yeah, I agree. I think he's way better than Brian Kelly. think that I like the Clemson. I like the rock. That's their lucky charm. Counterpoint. You ready? And this is solely because of what I said before that I'm just, I've basically said I'm betting on Notre Dame because of the Oklahoma, Alabama game makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But if you want to feel a little better, Trevor Lawrence is a freshman. Yeah. You got to remember and I love his hair. Yeah. Oh man. He's got all time flow, flow God. He's sunshine. Yeah. Him and he, he crushes your flow, Bubba. Oh yeah. Shots fired. Bubba's getting cucked on. Yeah. I like Clemson a lot in that game. I don't know. Notre Dame just, they, they maul you and Clemson, they maul you. What was that? They're maulers. What was that? What do you mean? What was the, what was that announcement? I'm breaking down which team is more, is more fun to root for. They maul you. Yeah. Okay. And Notre Dame is not, they're not fun to watch. They just maul you. Okay. Okay. And
Starting point is 00:12:41 then Clemson, they do a lot of stuff. I'd say the Clemson defensive line mauls you too. I'm talking about their offensive. When you use the term maul, you're always talking about offensive line dude. Oh, okay. Yeah. Do you even listen to Mike Mayock? I like that. No, I actually think Clemson has probably the best. Clemson is going to win. Yeah. They're going to crush this game. Yes. They're going to win. Their, their defensive line is, you know what their defensive line? Bunch of dudes. That's what I like to see. Hog mollies. Bunch of dudes. Bunch of football playing Jesse's. No, they'll, they're going to win. All right. So let's, and also make
Starting point is 00:13:12 sure to get in all your Hunter Renfrode to the Patriots takes because it's the last game potentially that you could ever see. Oh, one other take you got to throw out there. If you want to, if you want to sound smart about Brian Kelly, killed a guy. Well, that too. Um, no, the, uh, Alabama always struggles with quarterbacks like Kyler, mobile quarterbacks. Yeah. Mobile quarterbacks. That's what, if you look at their losses, they've only had like four in the last 10 years. They all came against mobile quarterbacks. So is that, is the blooper now? Johnny Manziel beat them like seven years ago. Shit load of mobile quarterbacks. Cam Newton beat them. Dude. Swag Kelly. Swag Kelly.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Kelly problems. Yeah. Got to be, got to be careful. Those mobile quarterbacks. That's, if you want, I love when people say that they're like, listen, Alabama, if they've gotten a Kelly's heel, it's like, no, that's not really their Achilles heel. Yeah. They've lost like three times. Yeah. And almost like every quarterback in the SEC in the last 10 years has been a mobile quarterback. Right. It just so happens that the couple of losses they've had have been to mobile quarterbacks for the game. Just got insane and out of control. Like generational talents, right? Cam Newton, Johnny, Swag Kelly. Yeah. All three one Heismans. Correct. Um, all right. Let's get to our interviews.
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Starting point is 00:16:25 uses it to motivate you to be excellent. So we're going to start the interview. We want you to have a great interview. So we're going to criticize you right now. So kind of a cocky move to wear a shirt with your name on it and face on it. That's weird. Yeah. And also like on this shirt that big cats wearing your wearing sunglasses. That's kind of lame. You also not, I mean, kind of looking a little short today. Yeah. You really six one. Yeah. I don't know about that. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, now you're ready to go. I don't think you're that funny. I don't think you're funny. Oh, okay. Yeah. Here we go. See. Now we're going to have an excellent interview. Let's get it going. Let's get it going. So you talk
Starting point is 00:17:01 about controlling your own destiny for, I think most people know the story, but to rewind a little here, you went to Texas Tech. You were the starter. Then was it that you basically Cliff Kingsbury was too hot and you're like, I can't be around this guy or why did you leave Texas Tech for Oklahoma? No, I was after I got hurt. And then there was just some differences. I thought I was going to get a scholarship. But you know, I've always had the mindset that everything happens for a reason. And I grew up in Oklahoma fan kind of made it easier that I was able to leave. How did a guy like you not get a scholarship when you were like a great high school? You think I'm short right now. You should have seen me back
Starting point is 00:17:36 in high school. Yeah, that's all right. I was probably 511. Yeah, no, no, 519. I was probably 11 during junior year when they were like recruiting was happening. Yeah. Like the most critical time for recruiting. And that's, you know, I can say things like that. You grew up in Austin, but you're you're an Oklahoma fan. It never occurred to you to try to walk on it at UT. I didn't want to. I grew up in Oklahoma fan. But when it came down to everything, being so frustrating recruiting, my dad called some people at Texas. We had connections and asked if they had a spot for me to walk on. And they said they didn't need me to walk on. So I found that out after the fact, not even as a safety. Yeah. Brown didn't
Starting point is 00:18:20 even try to recruit you as a safety. Yeah, not like Robert Griffin or Johnny. No, yeah. That's a specialty. So wait, did you you got a scholarship from some schools, right? First one was to rice and had the option to play baseball and football there. And then after that I had four more from Army, New Mexico, Florida Atlantic and Washington State. And did you consider any of them? Washington State with Mike Leach or Florida Atlantic on the beach in Boca Raton. I think the reason I didn't go there is because I never took an official visit. I might have if I did so. Yeah, also, I mean, Lane Kiffin's hot too. It's like sounds like you hate hot coaches. He wasn't there yet. Yeah, but yeah, he his
Starting point is 00:18:58 aura was around always. So you go to Texas Tech, you you have a difference of opinions with Coach Kingsbury. You decide to leave and then so you decide to enroll it at Oklahoma and where you've not like this might not work out like I'm going to walk on in Oklahoma. Oklahoma is a football factory. Was there any moment where you're like this might not work out for me? No. And like I said earlier with like the draft process, I always thought I controlled my own destiny that I could make it there no matter what. And so during that only reason I got in. So I left Tech like December 13th, I think, and then I enrolled in school that next semester only because I had applied out of high school. So it was
Starting point is 00:19:38 a quick transition and I wasn't able to be with the team until like three weeks into the semester. And it was just I never had a doubt in my mind, but it was not the best of times. Was that story true where Bob Stoops like walk by you in the cafeteria? Like I'm going to be the starting quarterback. Yeah, so we were at a team dinner. It was the first day I could actually be involved in anything team activity. And they had a dinner in their the suites in the stadium that night. And I was sitting at the table with some of the guys that I had met and coach Stoops walked in and I wanted to go introduce myself. So I'd watched him coach all my life and just wanted to let him know that I was there. And
Starting point is 00:20:13 yeah, it caught him off guard. You're in kind of a unique position where whoever the next coach is going to be is going to be kind of tied to you at least for the next several years. If you were to design your next new head coach, would he be named Bob Stoops or Lincoln Riley? Or Mike McCarthy? Never talked about another man's job or John DeFilippo? Do you think that I mean, has John Dorsey we obviously there's rumors that float around, but do you think John Dorsey will include you in any conversations? Has he been open with you about like, I mean, it's obviously premature, but No, I think he'll handle that. I think he knows me well enough to, you know, kind of
Starting point is 00:20:50 understand what I like. But it's not about me. It's about this whole franchise. So whatever they do, whatever decision they make, I'm going to roll with it just like I have been since I got here. That's a super diplomatic answer. I think it's the right answer to give, but it's not what you're looking for. But it's not what I'm looking for. And we're trying to get a headline here. So like one thing you got to learn about the biz is you feed us, we feed you, then we'll protect you because you gave us a good scoop.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I don't think you're going to protect. Oh, no, no, no, dogs. Okay, you, you guys, you're right. You're right. You're right. Motherfucker Blake Bortles and Jared Goff and all of our guys. I mean, we die for those guys. You do. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But you are going to this position where it's like they're going to try to hire somebody that will be able to maximize a skill set of somebody they've just invested, you know, so much of the organization's capital in and that's you. So if you're looking at an offensive guy, are you looking to do something that's like, would you be excited to play for a system that's like the offense you ran at Oklahoma or what are you looking for personally? To me, yeah, obviously the easiest answer to be, yeah, I'd love to run the offense that did Oklahoma. That's because I had three years to do it and I got so comfortable in it. But I think whatever we decide to do, I need to relate those schemes that I've learned over
Starting point is 00:22:02 time and just do what we're best at. I can, I've always believed that it doesn't matter what we're doing. As long as I'm making the guys around me better, that's truly what it's all about. If I can get the playmakers making plays and, you know, get the ball out, make it easy on our offensive line, I think that's the most important part. So however we do that to make the guys around me better, that's the best option. Just so you know, we're just going to take the first part of that answer where you said I would love to run the offense. Yeah, clip it.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Clip it and make the headline. Throw it out. Yeah. There you go. Can we talk about the hate list? Oh, yeah. What is that? The list you keep of haters. Has it grown or have you retired it?
Starting point is 00:22:37 No, I remember I went soft. I got soft. Yeah, but I think you still have a burn book. Yeah. So how is it on your phone or is it like, well, it used to be, you know, on a piece of paper old school. Nice. We've transferred it over a few different devices. Was coward always number one?
Starting point is 00:22:54 No. Okay. Oh, who was number one? Were we ever on it? It started early. No. No. Well, I had some tweets. I looked it up. I'm going to read them to you. Let's hear it. I said Baker's tummy shirt is adorbs. That was kind of mean.
Starting point is 00:23:07 My tummy shirt? Yeah. You know, when you wore your little tummy shirt at Oklahoma, let your little tummy go. Yeah. I said, good thing we gave Baker the Heisman after week two because Saquon is incredible. Good take by me. Yeah, nice day. You ended up winning.
Starting point is 00:23:20 He's great. Yeah. I mean, you're not wrong by that. Yeah. I also said Baker is rattled, capitalized, rattled. That was during the Rose Bowl. Were you rattled? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So I thought I might have been on the list at some point. And yeah, that was basically it. When you didn't show up. That was your long list of three tweets. Well, no, there was also one I found that said from Fartbox 69. He said Baker stinks and he's short. He'll never be anything. That's what he makes so hard. That's mean.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Fartbox 69 on the list. Like, who would you take the little guys? Is that your burner account? No, the little guys make the burn list or only the big guys? Little guys make it all the time. Oh, nice. I did. I went through your tweets and looked at who you liked. And there was one tweet that you liked from like two months ago that said, you will never win.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Or you're not going to win a single game in your first 10 weeks in the NFL. Remember this tweet and you liked it. And you bookmarked it for yourself. I said at the senior bull, I think that's when you selfishly missed the media availability because you had the flu. Oh, yeah. No, he's a Rose Bowl. Rose Bowl, excuse me. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So I said, I call this guy Baker's dozen because he acts like he's 13. Ooh. See, here's the thing. Funny story about that. All my friends from back home say I'm 12 and no matter what year it is, I've always been 12 years old. So as long as you're calling me 13, that's a win in my book. That's a nice spin zone. Yeah, I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 What about Jason McIntyre who said that you went to your phone too quickly after the first win? That was the craziest take of all time. That guy. I can't, here's the thing. So my brother sent me, he was so mad about it. It's so funny. So he sent me that, the link of it or whatever it was. And I had had him blocked on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Who knows when I did that? That was probably a long time ago. But it's just guys like that that they have the most irrational opinion and they never have to be correct. Right. It's even more so than being a weatherman. You can show up to work every day if you're wrong on it. Oh, well, all right. Well, we just moved the goalpost.
Starting point is 00:25:12 That's kind of a media trick. Yeah. So like if I'm like Baker's a bust, you could win a Super Bowl and be like, yeah, but he hasn't won five Super Bowls. So he's still a bust in my eyes. He's a system quarterback. Yeah. So you just, you keep moving the goalpost and we can. You're never wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah, you're never wrong. When you walked out of that coward, I mean, that one obviously went viral. You owned him. Did you walk out being like, I own this guy and did you maybe shake hands after or are you still kind of? We shook hands, but no, I walked away from it having the same opinion about it as I did before. Right. He's going to be a fair weather guy. And as soon as I showed up, he was nice and brought up stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And when I proved him wrong, it was still, you know, he's not going to say the things that he says when I'm not on air. Right. When I'm actually there. Right. That's how it is. It's only you in this interview and not the entire rest of your team that joined. You know what? I can't speak on that.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You know, it's Tuesday. It's their day off. So they won't come into work on their day off? Well, they're not coming into interviews. Is that permission to take a day off? Okay. Where's the band now? You're running the student section.
Starting point is 00:26:13 That was such a cop out. You were trying to flex on everyone. No, don't even. You were running the band. Here's a good question. What did you check first? I went to my phone to check my family text. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That's fair. Fair move. I said that. When he had that take, his magnifier had that take. It was like, who wouldn't after one of the biggest nights of their life go check, you know, all your family checking in with you? Since I wasn't supposed to be playing, my parents and my brother were not there. Oh. So you get close.
Starting point is 00:26:45 That makes sense. I wasn't going to get to see them after the game. Yeah. Call them. Call them. Call them. Call them. Call them.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Go check their game. Yeah! Calling them right away. Cause normally that would be something that they're there and able to celebrate with. So a little different. Alright. So take that, Jason Matthews. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:04 That's right. You should start running to the dog pound after touchdowns. That would be the most like team. We'll get some more of those, and I'll be able to do that. Okay. Nice. I like that. There's a thing we do that's called People Also Ask.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So on Google, if you Google Baker Mayfield, people also ask us. How old is Baker Mayfield people also asked that I didn't ask that do you how old are you people are asked 23? Okay, 23, but then there was one that said how tall is Baker Mayfield really? That was the actual question. You know the real answer really Am I stretching beforehand or stretching wait? You can get an extra inch if you stretch. Oh, absolutely Okay, okay, you stretch good. Yeah stretch six one six one. I measured in like six foot and five eight Okay, so you just lied a second. I didn't stretch. I've measured in over six one Yeah, you got a measure from the base and you get that extra half inch. Yeah, this is common stuff
Starting point is 00:27:55 So actually if you stretch comments, I think if you stretch you can actually like extend your spine I'm being serious. I'm not even kidding you. I I did so I went First time I visited my fiance's home in Omaha, Nebraska They have a one of the inversion table where you hang upside down. Yeah, and I'm not even kidding you I got taller off that like a bat. Yes sleep like a bat and you get taller. Interesting. I'm gonna I don't think you can really sleep like a bat. Yeah, I wouldn't suggest doing that for too long Yeah What did you learn from Todd Haley?
Starting point is 00:28:32 He costs No, I had a few coaches before that like Mike stoop. So learn how to do that with yeah No, I think with him it was How to always have fun because it was all the business stuff was new to me But he always found a way to be smiling and just throw jabs and make it interesting every day. So Appreciative of him for that, but then I mean that's not even counting some of the offensive stuff he had to Oh, here's a good question. I forgot to ask you about hard knocks. Did you ever watch that that slow motion pass that you threw? Was that one of the clips that you saw?
Starting point is 00:29:06 They slow they took one of your practice reps and they slowed it down to like one 200th speed and it was the coolest it lasted for like five minutes the ball floating through the air you watch the whole thing Yeah, and I wanted to fuck the spiral. It was it was such a great spiral. Yeah, it was so hot It's pretty quick. So you haven't watched it yet. You should watch that. Yeah, you should watch you should watch that You should great. It's a great rep. Listen. I paid more attention to that rep than you did Yeah All right, it has been a long time coming This is one of the most exciting
Starting point is 00:29:40 Guests that I have ever introduced it is coach Ed Ogeron coach. Oh at Louisiana State University head football coach So it is grit week. Let's start there. We need you to define grit. Yeah, what does grit mean? No, you don't stay at relentless Pursuit of what you're after Having a focus and a goal, you know, stuff's gonna happen. You're gonna face adversity
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, we said we say around here. You got to block out the noise. Don't listen to the people outside Let's focus in on a task in hand and get it done. Yeah, what were you like as a football player? You know what solid foosman a lot to me. I Always wanted to be a football player solid foos. We won a state championship in 1977. I was an all-state player I was a blue chip player. I was a good player one a great player a good teammate with What would your high school coach have said about you as a player tough gritty? Yeah, did you grow up in LSU fam? Yes, I did grow up LSU wash around the estate my cousin LSU's life here You watch it every every Saturday night. If you don't see on Saturday night replays on Sunday morning
Starting point is 00:30:47 Did you used to come to Death Valley when you were a kid? Oh, yeah, the first time no, you know that valley was for rich people We couldn't afford it and only to the first time I got a ticket. I was a recruit. I came to the rice game We LSU beat rice 77 nothing. Whoo. That's pretty nice. That sounds about right for rice That's pretty nice but that that story about you know going to LSU for two weeks home sick and then Digging ditches basically right away. That's kind of a theme throughout your life You've had these these big moments. Maybe a little setback
Starting point is 00:31:17 You learn for me and get a lot better and you end up going to Northwestern State University and become, you know No, great player there. Yes adversity and learning how to face adversity, but I had great parents that pushed me You know, my dad always told me I had to do everything twice Yeah, you know, you know, I know and I tell my players you're gonna make mistakes But don't do it again. Was there ever a second thought of like I'm gonna go get a regular job sitting behind a desk It was football it for you. Never. I went try out the Memphis showboats. I didn't make the team I had to borrow my friend's car. I called my dad on the way back. I said I'm a star coach and I went to the coach the next day He said I don't have much I moved up
Starting point is 00:31:56 I took a cot out of the dormitory and I moved it into the visitor's dressing room and I worked there for free for a year Wow That's that's amazing. So you coached a lot of good players while you were there It's kind of back in Miami's heyday what Warren sap the rock. Yeah, who's the best player that you coach? No, it's hard to It's hard to separate Cortez Kennedy Russell Maryland and Warren sap in college Those were the three best players and obviously Cortez and Russell became a Hall of Famers. I mean Cortez and Warren became Hall of Famers
Starting point is 00:32:29 Right, they were all three great players when you were coaching the rock Did it ever occur to you? Hey one one day this guy might be president never, you know But I will say to you he was a great young man His nickname was Dewey And he worked very hard and he's a quiet guy, but he did have a plan. I'm so proud of him He's a great young man. Do you still keep in touch with him at all? You know what? He'll hit me on the Twitter every once in a while. Yeah, I talked to his agent once or twice Every time something big happens in my life. He'll tweak the support. Yeah, I really appreciate it
Starting point is 00:33:01 Would you endorse the rock for president if you're in no question? Okay, there you go. Yeah, the endorsement That's that's the easiest endorsement. I've ever heard. It's very obvious to anybody that's ever met you that you absolutely Love football. That's all you think about at what point in your life Did you realize that you were in love with football? y'all six years old And I'd go with my uncle's house. Uncle Joe and my my nanny would cook toast bread And I'd eat about a whole loaf back then big old boy And we would watch USC play
Starting point is 00:33:33 My uncle Joe loved USC and I watched OJ run. I think it was 1967 And I'd come home just I told my daddy I said I'm gonna coach at USC one day when I was six years ago That was one of my goals. Wow. What's your favorite food? You know, it's hard to It's hard to Mention my favorite one. I've got about a hundred of them because I love food obviously But I like turnips stew. Okay with pork in it over rice. Okay That might be one of my favorite things with fried veal cutlets. Oh, okay
Starting point is 00:34:06 I don't think I've ever had turnips stew. Yeah, how much of why do you eat a week? You know what? I've got to watch it because my weight won't jump up I can't eat all the good Cajun food. I want but every Sunday we have a blast and we'll eat gumbo Jumbolized spaghetti whatever we want on Sunday. That's French. That's cheat day. Yeah, she said Sunday It's not a fun day diet starts Monday. That's how I've lived my entire life At what point did you realize that you had a knack for being a great recruiter? You know, uh, you know when I first had a lot of success at Miami, but I was at a good school And I loved it. I listened to coach Johnson. I watched tape with coach Johnson
Starting point is 00:34:42 I listened to him evaluate butch Davis was on that staff. I watched him recruit how relentless he was so I kind of You know looked at those guys and I said, okay, I can do this like this I can do this like that that I went to Syracuse and it was a Joe Pile was early recruiting everybody I learned how to early recruit. We didn't know how to do that Miami So I kind of put all that together and when I became recruiting coordinator with coach Pete Carroll Put all the things that I learned from all the great ones that I just did it Yeah, how has your your living room presence changed since back in the day at at the University of Miami to right now, you know
Starting point is 00:35:18 I'll probably keep my shirt on most of the time You know saxophone was the best playing football, right? Yeah, I agree. Yeah, well shovel pass. Also cat likes to shovel Yeah, I've been saying shovel pass for a really long time people don't people don't respect shovel. What about the full-back dive full-back dive You know, I was good in the 60s. Yeah So taking over as as the head coaching position At a major program whether that's Ole Miss USC LSU how much of your job is spent doing X's and O's versus kind of managing everything else or like how much has spent teaching You know specific techniques to players as opposed to just being a CEO of the program
Starting point is 00:36:00 I do not look at myself as just a CEO Coming to work early in the morning. I get that stuff done In the morning, you know before everybody gets to work. I'm organized. I do the practice schedules I do the recruiting anything I need to do any administrative stuff. I need to do take care of and then when it comes eight o'clock I'm off football. I'm ready to go all during the day. I'm doing football At night we watch film at night before I go home. I check my duties what I need to do I'll do it, but I'm more of a on-the-field coach. I coach the defensive line. I'm a hands-on I watch every piece of film offense and defense
Starting point is 00:36:41 We have a saying here if we fell if we We if we drill it we film it if we film it we watch it if it's broke we fix That's what we do like is there any jealousy from from other position groups like the tight ends or the wide receivers and that they Don't get the love that the defensive line gets from a coach. Yeah, you know what at first it could be a little uncomfortable But I after individual I will go to them. I will stand behind the offense. I will cheer for offense I do a lot of things with the offense that I didn't do when I was young So I think the guys see it, but they also see the benefit of my expertise on the defensive line helping the team
Starting point is 00:37:18 So I think they understand. Yeah, so we have a little Lisa question So it's promo code grit tour and you get $130 off your Lisa mattress. You got to get a Lisa mattress Okay, you sleep. Well you dream. What is your dream for? LSU and your time with LSU national champs. I want national championship for the state of Louisiana for these players They yearn for they work for art and I want to win a national championship You look like you're in pretty good shape though. Do you still you hit the gym every day? You know, I work out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I'm in the weight room at six I try to get a little half hour left then I go run or 11 noon. What do you bench?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Well You know always convince three plates. That's my promise. Okay. No promise myself I've got stop playing football anytime that I can walk in the weight room. I need to bench three plates. That's a great problem That's still pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, how much squat? Yeah, you know my squat is going down, but I Can rip out three fifteen a couple times. There you go. That's pretty good. What's important exercise in the world? What um, can you tell the story about the worm? Is that true? Yeah, I'm in your mouth. Yeah So what happened? No, here's I got the story from Joe Raymond peace who was a great offensive line coach at Northwestern State and here's the story. Okay, and he did it and I did it in the spring game
Starting point is 00:38:41 My senior year and it's kind of funny after the practice We had a spring game the next day and I was looking for worms on the field my coach Goes goes money named baby goes Baby, what are you doing here? I said coach? I'm looking for some worms He goes and there were some worms on the field. Okay Well, here's the big one here. He said baby. You going fishing. I said no, coach I just got a little water basal speech and we get the team so here's the deal So we had a big deal that night in spring game is my senior year
Starting point is 00:39:13 I was a team captain and I got up and I said the story there was two men fishing in ice holes in Alaska And one was catching fish and the other one and he looks at a guy. He says man. Hey, how you catching all that fish? He said man, I'm using worms because I'm using worms, too He said yeah, but I need to feed my family He said the only way I know how to feed my family is catch this fish and I got to do whatever it takes He said I'm gonna tell you my secret those worms got to be real warm warm before you put them on the hook So I keep them in my mouth to warm them up Then I put them on the hook
Starting point is 00:39:53 I said, you know, just like that fisherman do whatever it takes for his family to feed his family I'll do whatever it takes to win That thing was crawling around in between my teeth man. I was so glad to get that word about my mom I promise you but That's about what's 23 years old of the long time ago. You got to bring that back Big game, maybe Alabama game the worm returns. Yeah, maybe I'll get an assistant to do it. Yeah Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest it is Gordon Hayward This is gonna be a hard question to answer truthfully. I'll answer it truthfully if I were Gordon Hayward
Starting point is 00:40:38 I always wonder when you're sitting on the bench and a team is having success Is there a small tiny little little little small part of you? That's like kind of wish they'd lose so that I was like so important that they need me out there If I were Gordon Hayward, I'd say yeah, I definitely was rooting against the Celtics I mean, I think I don't think you'd be human if there wasn't a part of you That was like I hope that we lose right like it's a competitive nature in you Yeah, I feel like it's on it like it's crazy to not be able to say that out loud I know you're obviously rooting for your teammates you want them to win
Starting point is 00:41:11 But there's a part of you that always wants to be part of the winning team Yeah, yeah, I think so that happened to two at the very beginning of the season like we I got hurt We I think we lost our first two games But then we went on like a 18 or 19 game win streak and I was like laying in bed like come on like what's going on Right, there was a part of me. That's like dude. They're winning without me like what's the deal? But then, you know, there's another side of you like, okay, this is why I came to Boston We're gonna be good. We're gonna have a chance to win the whole thing You're rooting for him, you know, these are your teammates, you know
Starting point is 00:41:42 So you got like two conflicting things going on at the same time And if you like I said if you didn't think that like I don't think you would be human, right? You're a natural competitor. You want to be out there. They're doing well without you. I mean But like I said, that's why I came to Boston. I appreciate the honesty I feel like a lot of people wouldn't be honest about that But that's exactly how like as a fan I'm watching them like yeah, of course Kyrie's probably going through the same thing Like right, I wish I was out there. I wish I was helping the team win No doubt
Starting point is 00:42:07 I think to be to compete at this level you have to have that mentality Like if you pulled every guy in the league if they were honest, it would probably say the same thing And you guys had a really fun team last year doing during that playoff run I remember watching it and being like damn like they've somehow figured out how to put these pieces yet I've had, you know, two pretty big injuries and they figured out how to make it work Probably the scrappiest team during the playoffs. Who's scrappier, scary Terry or Marcus Smyth? That's a good question. I don't know if you can be scrappier than Marcus or Marcus. Yeah, are you God and Heywood? I didn't get a chance to play in the garden, so I don't think I'm that yet. Yeah, okay
Starting point is 00:42:45 I was in Cleveland. They didn't call me that Hank wanted us to start calling you Gordy. Where is Hank? Hank, you're a fake fan Nice, nice Every time I listen to you guys you're always the one that sticks up for New England Where you at now? Not to bring up a sore subject but going into that national championship game against Duke What was his what was his game plan for that game? Because I think you guys surprised a lot of people with how competitive that game I mean you should have won but like if the refs obviously hadn't gotten paid money for coach K At halftime and then started going fouls the other way like game planning for that
Starting point is 00:43:17 Do you remember exactly like what he told you or what the strategy was gonna be? So they were Duke was not the most talented team that we played or had the best players that we played throughout the tournament Take a shot at them. Yes, but they were the best coached and like the best the most disciplined They were kind of like us and so For for them, you know, we went over all their players all their players. I don't remember exactly what it was But I mean we had a chance to win. I felt like we should have won how many times how many times a week Do you think about that shot? I don't ever think about it. That's a lot. I think about it all the time Thank you for making that man. I wish that butler had beaten Duke. That would have been amazing
Starting point is 00:43:55 You never think about it like just every in a random moment you close your eyes Maybe you're standing at the same part of the court or whatever may happen. Okay. Okay, okay If I shoot half court shots in practice just for fun. Yes, then yeah, I'll think about you It just goes right through your brain. Yeah. Oh my god I should write off the front of the ram but to be honest there was a shot So I missed two game winners actually so the one before that I had a good look I fade away on the baseline it background that one taunts me a little bit. Oh, that's a that's actually a very football guy answer Because you missed presumably more than one other shot that game too
Starting point is 00:44:29 So like a shot that you missed in the first half that could be the game where too so it's you know life's full of these So you don't look back. I think you think about it more than Listen the half court shot. I'd like I when I shot it I did not think it was close at all because I wasn't trying to bank it, right? Also, oh, so one of you even counted because you didn't call glass. I didn't call glass. Yeah, but the banks open on Mondays So it was all good. Um, what's the biggest difference between coach Stevens then and coach Stevens now good question. Thanks That is a great question. Thank you. Thank you. If you let me come back on the show after this year I'll probably be able to answer it. Well, you're a recurring guest now
Starting point is 00:45:04 So you have to come back and you don't follow me on Twitter, but I assume you will after this But yeah, you come back any burner does how many burners do you have I don't have any burners Okay, back to my original question your question to be honest It's hard for me to answer because I played one I played for five minutes last year. So You know, I don't know what about in preseason and preseason he seemed like he was relatively the same about his swag Does he have a swag now? That's no He's got his own type of swag. Let's glow up. Yeah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about your swag
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yeah, so before the show we asked Hank if he had any questions for you since he can't be here He basically just sent us like just screens and screens of pictures of you before you got to the NBA and pictures of you after So I guess the question is he thinks you're hot. So yeah, that's weird. Yeah So what talk talk us through the glow up though because you went from Wow, that kid is definitely from Indiana. He definitely won a state title, you know, 40 to 39 Which is such a hilarious score Yeah, well, I would assume To oh man that guy like he could be he could be European. He could sing for Maroon 5. Yeah, what happened there
Starting point is 00:46:18 What was the process? The You know, I've gotten that question a lot. The process was like I feel like I just like hit puberty I'm still waiting on like yeah, I mean it I didn't really do much I really I like I started to care a little bit about my hair. So I got a nice haircut. Mm-hmm I got married that actually didn't like my wife started helping me out on that front. Yeah Well, I do remember it was it was like I don't know what year it was But there was a distinct year where you came back for the jazz and it's like whoa Gordon Hayward Like figured out what a weight was and how to lift them and he got a really cool haircut. That's right
Starting point is 00:46:54 And that was it and did people start respecting you more? I Think so a little bit. Yeah, I think that helped me out. Yeah, interesting that your wife wanted to make you more hot After she married you. Hmm. True. She should have just Yeah, yeah, yeah fried food. That's what she did in your old fat. Yeah, get you off the market real quick Should we bring up the daddy's always happy video? You can if you want. Okay. Is daddy happy always always happy. Yeah, really? I'm wearing the hat So at what point did you like you clearly were not happy in that moment?
Starting point is 00:47:28 At what point do you like I'm just gonna roll with it wasn't that clear The balloon kick yeah, it was the funniest thing ever so at what point were you like, okay? I really wore my heart on the slip my sleeve here and now let's just set the context You have two little girls, you know third child, right, you know would have you know You won't mix it up, but at what point you're like, we're just gonna roll with this and Embrace the fact that I was so clearly not happy in them So the thing is like I didn't want to do a gender reveal video. Yes I was inside the house probably playing on my phone or something
Starting point is 00:48:09 Everyone was outside Robin's like come outside and and she had this box in there. I'm like, what are we doing? Like I did I did not know this oh No, like a surprise party like it's like what's what's going on? She's like, oh, we're gonna do a gender reveal video right now and she had our nanny was filming I'm like, why are we filming this? I don't want to be filmed this because I didn't know what was gonna happen Like you weren't prepared. Yeah, I would definitely wasn't prepared Got your journalist and I was like banking on it being a boy Which there's nothing wrong with girls. No both art my girls are beautiful girls
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm super happy about the third one being a girl And then we do the video and like I didn't know how to react like it was pink balloons coming out of the box again Yeah, I Think I probably think me and my wife like fought for like 30 minutes after that Mm-hmm, and then she was like get over it and yeah my moment to get over it Yeah, and now it's fine. Did you get a little more yet? You have a moment I think all guys know like what I was feeling which I thought was the best part of the video is I had a bunch of friends Like guy friends text me and be like dude. I know it was extremely relatable. That's why I went viral
Starting point is 00:49:15 Right, yeah, then I had a bunch of other guy friends I were like my my girlfriend is like how could he do that like why would he be so upset like I would kill him like all This stuff like did you did you ask whoever it was the nanny that filmed it, right? Yeah Did you ask her to not upload it to like Instagram? Yeah, I didn't I specifically told my wife don't upload this I don't want this to go anywhere and she said no, I don't want people to think I'm fat Good point I think that we just shouldn't have general reveal parties until the person decides like when they're 18
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, I'm gonna that's what I'll do next week on tune in next week. I'm part of my take where I'll reveal my gender Yeah, all right. You can still adopt somebody though. You can adopt boy. I Have a couple ideas. So you made this a positive you have shirts You have hats. Yes, and all the all the proceeds are going to MS. What's the MS PCC? It's for younger parents that can't afford diapers and blankets and all that Did you think about holding back a little bit of the proceeds for your daughter's therapy when she watches the video? Little bit maybe no, okay Okay, yeah, and then so now here's my idea if you were gonna have a fourth child
Starting point is 00:50:28 I don't want to assume that you'll have a fourth child. I think you need to do would you oh Why in your spot? Yeah, you got a lot of money You I mean, I'm being honest you ah, I would do by three four girls is well Here's here's what you do. I mean how many times? You can tell you have a basketball. I'll tell you what I love rivers. Did you guys were just talking about him? Yes, yes Ellen DeGeneres or ESPN. You can do the decision and it's a gender It will be I mean No, we'll be a ratings man's a pay-per-view get people to shell out money up front for it
Starting point is 00:51:05 It will be great too because we could have like what we'll have a yeah We'll have a pay-per-view and it will be a gender reveal and then there'll be a room where it's just a bunch of stuff that you can smash And then there'll be a room with like all your friends and cigars and it's like where's Gordon gonna go after the trick is I mean, I don't want to get too graphic But the conception has to take place in a man cave so much. That's true I'm like the back of a pickup. Okay, we'll move on Okay, that was Baker Mayfield co-cho and Gordon Hayward all recurring guests all guests that we hope to get back on in 2019 I'm actually gonna guarantee we'll have at least two out of three. That was also a really mean joke what you guys did to me with
Starting point is 00:51:46 Gordon what telling him No, we didn't Yeah, so we told yeah, we think wasn't with us at the time Hank had he was on vacation. So we were interviewing We made sure to tell Gordon to talk a lot of shit about Hank Before the interview before the interview, but we never told Hank that we did that So he thought that Gordon Hayward just actually hated him completely natural just out of nowhere It's like where the fuck is Hank? Yeah, I was a big fan. Yeah, yeah, that kind of broke you a little bit All right, so we still have a lot of best of yet
Starting point is 00:52:14 We're gonna tell you when you should stop if you want to save some for Monday now is not that time We're not rationing yet. Nope because we have Mark Wahlberg Vaughn Miller and Blake Bortles coming up on our best of this is actually a nice little nice little three We got the guy who were like very good friends with very familiar with with Blake Bortles Vaughn Miller Who's creeping into the very familiar territory and Mark Wahlberg who we hope someday to come back on the show because he had fun I think he liked us even though he thought we were complete jokes But he's I mean he's used to dealing with Hollywood types who are probably even bigger jokes than us
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah, and it was also it felt it was a big step up for us because not only is he an A-lister But it was our first time going to one of those press junkets where it was so organized It was scary like we felt very uncomfortable because they they basically brought us into a hotel room Then Mark Wahlberg walked across the hallway into the room did the interview then left and walked back across so that another Pressed like team could come into the room just they had us off in the corner like we were not to be seen by anybody else So we definitely felt like the odd men out They're like we don't want other journalists to see that these weirdos are here Right, they were afraid not only of what we would ask Mark
Starting point is 00:53:26 But what we would say to the other journals and we also always take I feel like whenever we go to one of those There'll be like a spread of whether it be coke or sparkling water Whatever it may be we always put like stuff our bags full after we leave and people look at us like These guys homeless my move is I take a diet coke before the interview Yep, I take one after and I'd usually round up some biscotti crackers even though I don't like those cookies Yeah, oh if you if you have crackers any kind of cheese I'm eating all of it right in front of your face raw dog in turkey like Tommy. Let's order. Yeah Hopefully no one coming after us is hungry
Starting point is 00:53:57 So like I said Mark Wahlberg von Miller Blake Bortles coming up before that PFT. You got another ad for us Yeah, I want to talk to you guys about Bud Light. Everybody knows Bud Light I don't even know why we have to advertise Bud Light. Here's the thing for Bud Light. It's so good It sells itself you guys probably already drink it But you should start drinking more of it because they have some new flavors out there They've got Bud Light lime and orange and when you're getting ready to watch your favorite teams as football season There's only one light logger to satisfy those taste buds. It's Bud Light There's nothing like an ice-cold Bud Light your first one of the day
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Starting point is 00:55:08 No, I think it depends. I think I think for us television changed the game more than streaming services I mean we we started producing we started producing television was at HBO with entourage And so instead of having instead of having you know 70 day instead I have a pitch for you. This is actually my funnest interview Yeah, but they get out bitch But no it started out where it was like, you know You had X amount of time and X amount of money and then with television It was like, you know, you had a lot less time a lot less money
Starting point is 00:55:44 So we were just kind of doing things on the go and then when DVD sales started to decline and studios were crying poverty We were like, well, we can make movies for less money But we want to be able to participate in the profits if they're successful So you take the risk to be able to you know reap the rewards if the movies work and then with with Netflix and with streaming services I mean people just you know technology has changed everything changed So people decide when and where and how they want to view their content so I'm actually making my first Netflix movie now as an actor nice and And it'd be interesting to see, you know, we'll still get a theatrical release and that stuff
Starting point is 00:56:18 But people want to watch one and where they want to I was gonna be able to You cannot fight the inevitable. Yeah, I was gonna say you have to be to be a real artist now You have to make like a super indie Netflix release and be like this has been my passion project for all my life And now Netflix I can do it. You gotta do that. Do a silent film. Yeah. Black and white sounds. Yeah Everybody's reinvented himself. It's you doing curls. Yeah for an hour and a half. There you go And you've just been it's your Netflix passion project. You and Paul Ryan. We got a lot. We're starting to cook I don't know. Yeah, see what's going on on this. Do you know Adam Sandler? I do. Okay I actually do have some pitches for you. So you have entourage. Yeah, then you did entourage for for the NFL with ballers
Starting point is 00:56:59 You ever think about doing entourage for like bloggers and podcasts? Yeah. Yeah, just think about it We're basically like NFL players except we're not rich. Yeah, I don't really have sex. Yeah We're just boring versions like yeah, just like 1% milk version, right? There's a story arc where one of the podcasters is like I'm dating this model But it's actually he just made it up and he's like you guys you guys don't even know how hot she is She lives in Canada that whole thing. Yeah, there's a part where We're interviewing some actor and then it goes way off the rails like you can include like all this stuff Yeah, and he just wants to punch us
Starting point is 00:57:34 Staring at like one of the guys In my pocket for my hamburger industry boom and he just gives us all this money Yeah Talent is sexy to women you guys got to get out to We didn't finish the what do you think our favorite movie we never got to yeah, yes I did 50 fucking movies. Yeah, I'm gonna get a lot to choose from cut to the chase. All right I'll just say boogie nice. Yeah, boogie nice as much you too. Yeah, were you pissed off that they didn't let you use your own cock? No
Starting point is 00:58:15 No, you didn't I wasn't like what's what's wrong with me? Yes, an actuality yes in today's day that would be body. Yeah, yeah, I would have a Lawsuit we're gonna go watch for the rest of the day. That's basically our job So you're more than welcome to come hang on who won the Jaguars Eagles game But we're close personal friends of Blake Bortles. So if you thought about bashing them in that moment don't Blake why what happens? He's a great guy. We're just saying Yeah, did they bench him? No, well last week is Cody Castler. You knew they benched him. No, I didn't I know I didn't I knew that he was out of the game, but I'm thinking no
Starting point is 00:58:54 I didn't know that they benched him because I actually have a day job. I got a lot of shit to do But I thought I heard I heard I heard something that and he wasn't playing and I never heard about him getting hurt Yeah, I was like for them to bench him is absolutely crazy Still playing Eli Manning at the benching Blake good boy. That's fair. No sense. I mean Tom Coughlin if he was still with the John. Oh, yeah, yeah, he would be Eli wouldn't be playing You don't want to hang out play which I think is crazy too because Eli, you know I mean you brought the two championships even though they were bullshit wins. They were well, they count They do but that being said we're controlling the pressure that being said
Starting point is 00:59:34 I mean Eli should get the kind of respect that he deserves from the Giants hand and all these guys are flipping so quick I don't know what it look at the Patriots have done what nobody else has done, right? Performing at the level that they are for the amount of time that they have is just unheard of right? So I mean the guy won two championships. Okay, you go you get sick one Barclay you kind of rebuild you over pay Odell You know, you got you make some good moves and you make some bad moves, right? But you don't go shit on the guy. Oh, I thought I disagree. I think that you've been brainwashed by Archie Manning I have a theory that the mannings have no, I've never heard Anything about oh, you never heard. No, I know who he is. I know he played for the Saints
Starting point is 01:00:17 I know he has another son who is now doing broadcasting. Yeah, actually the nicest of the yeah I Don't know. I don't think they should have sad Blake Bortles But I also think you know that the the Jags were a little bit more hype, you know, yeah Yeah, they were still Blake's gonna be fine. Don't worry about yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right the Seekie question put in promo code Why are you guys kissing this guy's? Friends of ours you let's date his house. All right. Yeah. No, that's serious when we're now like we say your house We like sometimes couch. No, just kick it out. Okay, if if we won't if it were if it were 15 years ago
Starting point is 01:00:50 And I was single absolutely Like the level of defense we're giving to Blake Bortles right now If you said that we could stay at your house any time somebody attacked you you would get that pit bull defense We'd be all up in their ass. We'd be wabber. I'm swimming in that guy's You just had a couple things then they changed the subject. You really didn't do shit, but you're not talking about Blake Anyway, yeah, what does ain't shit? You want to go fuck you want to go at the door? He asked me if I want to go and he's looking at his yellow. I'll sit on you pad
Starting point is 01:01:22 Okay, Seekie question promo code take here's why you're really intimidated. I read on the internet that you have three nipples Yes, PFT has four. I got four you got a problem. So what's up now? What's up now? See that one right there and I have a super deep. I have a super deep belly button. There's four. That's not in it Oh, okay. Let's see yours. It's like a cigarette Yeah, this belly button He was about to risk it all I think I think that's not a nipple. Yeah nipple. There's an arrest for yeah
Starting point is 01:01:52 I got like a dog. I got 33% more nipples in you. What now? How do you stay in such great shape? Exercise, okay. Yeah, I was wondering that. Yeah, you just always ripped. You got to try no I'm not always it really depends on what I'm doing for a movie. I've gotten I've had the pleasure of you know putting on weight and deep water horizon and getting to 200 pounds That wasn't fun. Yeah And then it was like oh It was just it was like weird having to sit down to put my socks. Yeah, you get back. I tired And I'm yeah, and I'm in Louisiana and it's just fried. Oh, you know, I mean, and it's the summertime. It's just hot
Starting point is 01:02:28 Love it. Yeah, I got I got tired of that after a while Yeah, it turns out like eating and drinking again Yeah, when you when you try to put on weight for like good reasons, you don't get to put on fun weight and just eat like fast food Yeah, pizza and ice cream. It's like, okay You need to drink this milkshake that tastes like shit and has like 70 grams of protein Mm-hmm, or you got to be able to mix it, right? Yeah. Well, I know man. I'm in bulking season right now All right, Mark Wahlberg. There's been a herring in the motherfucker. Yeah. Yes The nipples they grow extra. It's like now having a nipple is like little fertilizer little patches of fertilizer for chest hair on your belly
Starting point is 01:03:02 Mm-hmm. You wouldn't know because you only got two. I got how pronounced is your third? It's pretty pronounced It's pretty pronounced It's like a boy nipple. It's not like a man nipple. Oh, okay, little boy Definitely says no two and a half a little mole or we're getting the color. We're getting the we're done Yeah, all right nipple. You're nipple not you and not you burn yourself with a sparkler Some shit. All right. I'm Matt Damon concert. We're getting there. We're about to get killed. We're about to get killed We appreciate we would have done this forever. It was fun. Yeah, I appreciate it. We would have done it forever Literally, that's not like we're gonna. Are you guys actually on our personalities?
Starting point is 01:03:47 And now for something completely different All right, we now welcome on recurring guest From the Denver Broncos it is Vaughn Miller. Do you that's the first question Do you remember being on this show before do you remember that you are a recurring guest? No, no, just my yeah, I remember yeah, it was a Skype. It was a Skype me. Okay Yeah, I asked me about like my ex-girlfriend and like all type of stuff on there. Yeah, okay We talked a little deep. Yeah, we did we talked about the chickens We did we talked about if you laugh every time you see the word buck kiss on your buck kiss trophy
Starting point is 01:04:19 You just laugh right there. Yeah, that's the answer. Yeah, that's the answer. Hey, why don't you go by Bonnie? That's so cool. I do like Girls call me bunny. Oh, it's like they come it's like my name is bun So it's just like naturally for like yeah, I'm gonna say Vani, but that's really like my real name What about your male name? Vachon the bee is silent Vachon. Yeah, but the bee is silent. Yeah, I would go by that. I Like that Shawn Miller. Yeah, but the bee silent. I don't know and put the whole name on your back
Starting point is 01:04:51 It just I mean it really don't feel like it has like the ring like okay, you know, just think about it Maybe I would think about it. Yeah, maybe like if You know how they do the Dom Grady, like if you if maybe you start quarterback Vachon Miller starts quarterback for the Broncos and Vaughn Miller plays defense I would love that. I mean, I've always been open to playing quarterback in a national football league Are you a little concerned about the fact that you know, you're being so vocal about Kirk as as you worried how your boy Swag Kelly is gonna feel about that or packs and Lynch. Yeah Those are my guys now you don't have to say that. I mean, I was talking I was I mean ever send me and upset
Starting point is 01:05:28 It is like a weird situation. It's like, you know, it's like, you know, you got it You're in a relationship now, but you say like, oh, I would love to be yeah, you know, but you're married But you know if that's Rihanna if that's Rihanna. Yeah, like wow Kirk Cousins is Rihanna I'm just the biggest Kirk Cousins in the world if it's like if you're in a relationship, you know, you're your girlfriend would understand Okay, right. You got a wandering. I mean passing. He's on your list. He's on your list, right? Yeah, did you sit down with like Trevor Simeone, he's like, okay, Von nodded three quarterbacks if you run into out in the wild You're allowed you're allowed to recruit. Yeah No, I mean, no, he didn't say that but I would hope he would like take it as that, you know
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's it's nothing against those guys. I like I love those guys. I love I love Paxson. I love Trevor I love I love Chad. I mean, they know that but um, you know, I have this up your Brock. Yeah, Brock out of you I mean Brock everybody knows I love everyone Geez, I think Brock's too tall. No, I think that's the size that you want He has if you're tall like that if you're tall like that you have long arms in his delivery He can wait if he can master it. It's like nobody I have an arm like that I like I like I like tall quarterbacks from you know, Brock Oswala Ryan mallet Josh Allen I really liked a Ryan mallet a lot too. Josh. You did. You're the only one
Starting point is 01:06:40 We found the one the one guy who likes Ryan mallet. I like Ron and a hardball like yeah, yeah Did he ever miss his alarm and Show up late I was never on a team with him, but he was my roommate Which you just liked him. He was my rookie He was my roommate at the rookie premiere. So you liked him as a person. Yeah, that is a shocker Okay, so you love Kirk Cousins and you like Ryan mallet. I think we have to start questioning your judgment I think you just like tall quarterbacks just in general. Yeah, we have rocking arms
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah, I comes in above the six foot three and Vaughn's like mm-hmm fellas I mean, we're back to like, you know, it is it is that we're like if we don't get Kerry cousin You know, then I got still go back in the locker room, but I would tell him You know, like, hey, you know, I love you guys. Yeah, we took a shot. How many more years do you think you have like what? What year is this? This is your 20 29. I probably got like 10 more 10 more. Yeah, I probably got like I probably got like I probably got like six or like seven like real years in me than the last three. I just steal you just get in Dwight Freny style just like the personary in the middle of the year That's when you go to that's when I just go to like yeah, yeah, I go to like just pass restaurant 30 down
Starting point is 01:07:46 So so, you know, have you had to change your game at all? You know getting in your late 20s knowing that maybe the athleticism the burst isn't exactly there. It's still the same It's the same. You haven't felt it at all. No, I haven't felt it at all I mean, I'm only there might be between right, but if you change your game at all I haven't I mean like if I've changed my game, I like I'd know like I don't have to run It's like I know I don't have to I don't have to do this to accomplish what I'm trying to accomplish, you know Mm-hmm. I went to the Barcelona FC, Madrid match and like I was like, dang You know, I was just watching messy, you know, everybody's watching messing like you do a lot of you do a lot of walking
Starting point is 01:08:23 You really don't you know run as much and then like he turns it on like whenever he goes Like he knows the perfect time to like right and I like I feel like that's the same way, you know I'm not about to run 50 yards down the field every single play But when it's time to go, I'm going and that's what I've learned like over the top save your energy work work smarter Not harder. Yeah, I wanted saving my energy for about 33 years Have you taken some time off from from working out like after the seasons over do you give your body? Yeah, I didn't work out to like a week ago, you know, like to how much can you bench now? I don't know I'm sure the Ricky's I'm sure I know exactly how much I can bench. I'm sure the guys at the combine
Starting point is 01:09:04 You know, they got me right now, but I mean, you know, I'm like you said before I'm born in a year eight, you know, I Recovery is a huge part of you know the game now last year right when a season ended we we won against the Raiders and That was a Sunday that Tuesday. I was in San Francisco training for the offseason. So, you know, I Approached it totally different last year and you know, this year I'm just trying to recover and then I'm gonna hit it hard in the second half of the year You're gonna spend some time with the chickens. Yeah, spend some time with the chickens Make sure, you know, you know Peyton in the markets those guys are doing good I got I got chickens named after those guys. Oh really to name one after Kirk Cousins
Starting point is 01:09:42 Yeah, there's the Peyton one. We get we get Kirk Cousins I'm gonna name one after him his son his wife. Everybody's gonna get this is the Peyton one get extra growth hormones. I Don't know. I mean another hand. My chickens are Yeah, yeah, they send it to the hand and then Accidentally just gives it to Peyton the chicken. No, my you know, my chickens are organic and humanely raised. Okay, you know Who's easier to tackle Cam Newton or a chicken? Cam Newton. Mm-hmm. Cuz he's bigger, you know, and he's not you know He's bigger. It's more to grab what a chicken is like, you know, yeah, but it's like rest of Wilson Yeah, chickens never made a business decision. Yeah, do you do you fall cam on Instagram?
Starting point is 01:10:19 No, oh, do you have ever seen I should I should though, but I don't hieroglyphics. He yeah Yeah, you think he's an asshole for that. I mean, I guess it's it's creative. That's one way to put it It's it's creative. I mean when you cam you can write you can create your own language He did when do you get the itch though to go back to football like when do you start feeling like man? I really want to be out there August really? Is that changed as you've gotten like, you know, would it would it would have come a little earlier? Yeah, I just feel like I just feel like it's I mean, it's only so much you could do to get ready for a season
Starting point is 01:10:53 You know, I understand the importance of an offseason and you know OTA's and I really understand that but um, you know For me, I don't think I don't I feel like I don't have to do that You know, but I do I haven't missed offseason training. I was was it like that in college, too Where you just knew that you know college in college is just this is what you have to do You know, it's like this is what people this is what you have to do to go to the pros and then when you get to the pros like Mm-hmm, right. We don't have to do that. Right Um What is the hardest part about playing in the NFL that fans don't understand the hardest part about playing in interfere is
Starting point is 01:11:27 The thing that pisses you off the fans like, you know We'll judge you on something and they don't really understand the truth behind it I Mean it's just what really pisses me off is like in my comments or like somebody else's comments or like any like football players comments and when you see like You know a big buff guy six six one nine commenting on You know Jarvis Landry's page like man, you should just take the money You should just you should just take the money. You're being greedy like this and that like I I hate I really hate that
Starting point is 01:12:02 Right, right. You should play for free if big swole six one nine was a real person say if he was a teacher in another school offered him More money to come over here and right and teach he would do that It's not like he would be like I'm staying with my students. I I'm taking less money. No, everybody Everybody you have to it's a it's a it's a It's a growing process as humans. You always want the best for you and your family You're not just gonna take less just because everybody says well Sports are weird in that way because it's the one part of our society where people side with like the owners
Starting point is 01:12:41 Even though it's the craziest name right when you're everyone has a boss They don't like or they're you know, like they feel like they're underpaid for something and in sports It's it's everyone says well, yeah, the owners, you know, the players should play with a discount I think people feel I think it's fans feel so a part of the they feel so attached to Organization because the organization has been there forever, right? So if it's the if it's the the Cleveland Indians, you know You like man, we don't say that we don't say that out. Yeah, I was who the Cleveland I words. Yeah We don't say that fucking name, yeah Okay, well, I say if it's like a baseball team
Starting point is 01:13:20 They're gonna be there for it. They're gonna be there like the Braves. Yeah. Yeah, the Redskins. Yeah Say they've been there forever. You know something like they've been there forever So you feel attached to them and then when your favorite players leaving them you feel kind of betrayed, right? It's weird, you know, it's definitely weird. That's what I hate the most, you know, okay That's it. One last final last question. Give me a guarantee for your record next year. My record I think the Facebook show is gonna go undefeated. Okay, you know, we're not gonna have Mercury Morris is gonna have to stop by and I feel like I feel like Kirk Cousins to be my second guest on season 2 of 1 Million Studio 58 And then we'll talk about how funny it was to get recruited and all the stuff
Starting point is 01:14:02 Do you think you'll win the division on your Facebook show? Yeah, it's no I mean, you know, I'm going against tough shows like, you know, the ball family show Yeah, and the March on this show right and Tom Brady's, you know show on Facebook watch What yeah, he's gonna be making out with a son for a sex. Yeah, you're gonna make a kiss my dad kiss your dad on the show Yeah, you should do that. I kiss your dad. I kiss him with tongue and you'll get ratings I kiss my dad like it's like when I like it's not a it's not a big deal like right. Yeah, everyone does it Let me see let me face Tom my dad right here. Yeah, let's get him on him a little smoochy smooth Ooh to get Kirk Cousins come out. He likes Vans a lot. You should just give him a conversion van and call it Van Miller
Starting point is 01:14:42 Van and to put like a mustache. Yeah, he loves conversion bands. I'm telling you absolutely Hey, daddy, hey, daddy. Hey, don't I kiss you in the mouth? Don't we kiss in the mouth you my dad All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we I was telling a man Tom Brady not the only one that kisses daddy But All right, we now welcome one of our favorite recurring guests, it's the boat the best of all time Blake portals Blake good to talk to you a lot has happened since we last talk you went to the Yeah, you went to the AFC championship game you went into Pittsburgh and you beat the brakes
Starting point is 01:15:42 Oh, yeah, check the shit out of them instant classic The question we have to start with though when you lost the AFC championship game was that in fact tears on your face? No, I and I honestly I didn't even I didn't even know about it. My mom actually sent it to me and She was kind of I think she felt bad a little bit. She was like, you know, I'm sorry how everything happened Yeah, yeah, you work so hard and I was then she sent that picture and I was like like, you know I'm not crying in that picture like I'm not really sure what happened if somebody like You know, maybe I missed my mouth with the water bottle or what it definitely didn't look like tears I was crying. I was really really upset after that game
Starting point is 01:16:20 Like I thought I thought for sure that we were gonna get you into the Super Bowl and that big cat and I were gonna Go see you play in Minnesota and win a Super Bowl. I thought that we were gonna be witnesses to history So I was definitely crying. Are you still a little bit bitter about maybe how that game was officiated? You know, it was definitely interesting But you know some some calls went their ways and some didn't go our ways But I wanted to win more so just to be able to To talk shit to Dave. Yeah, so because it's February We're gonna do February 29th leap day try to get to the bottom of this
Starting point is 01:16:56 So I just pulled this up for the first time. I have not read any of this. So Blake, why don't you start? Yeah, perfect So, I mean like technically really jaw rules only like seven years old, right I Gotta tell you the story real quick I had a kid come to my front door the other day like 15 years old and He brings the doorbell and I open it and he's just standing there staring at me and I'm like, hey man What's up? Like, you know, you rung my doorbell to you Is there something you'd like to say and he's just looking at me and you know
Starting point is 01:17:31 So I started asking him how he's doing and he like all these days said, you know, you had you guys that's a great year It's fun to watch. I love you on pardon my take. When are you going back on and I was like, I don't know You know, hopefully soon. I have to see you know what those guys are doing He said all right and then pulls a bush light out of his back pocket just one and gives it to me and turned around Like sit, I mean 15 16 years old tops love you on pardon my take I'm out of here. That is now the official greeting of part of my take. We no longer say suck my dick We cancel that one. We no longer say we're not gonna say it You just hit you silently hand somebody a bush like you don't have to make them trick it
Starting point is 01:18:11 You just hand it to them and walk away. It's not like an icing thing. It's just a piece off I just just an honor amongst friends. Did you drink it? No, I'm saving it for a special occasion. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, let it age. That's what yeah, you got to let it age put in your wine cellar Right. Yeah. Yeah, no exactly. You got to get it at the right time and let it breathe and do all that That's such an awesome story Blake Bortles, I love him. I hope I want him to get another starting job But if he doesn't maybe he just becomes the third member of part of my take fifth member He'll come up here. He'll live with us. You probably just hang out probably just hang out in the office for a while
Starting point is 01:18:46 Yeah, just hang out just do some shit. You know how Matthew McConaughey is now the the ambassador of culture for Texas basketball Yep, he should just be the ambassador of culture for part of my take that would work That would work. It was great showing up to his house and just seeing like a litter of one single bush lights Just like on his deck. Yes more the next and more kept on coming when we were at his house Yeah, it's like an old fairy tale like one of the old Grim brothers tales just like neighborhood children come by to To wish the spirit of Blake Bortles good luck and good fortune by leaving a single bush light on the doorstep All right, so we have coming up. Here we go again. Don't stop yet
Starting point is 01:19:22 We'll tell you when you want to stop if you want to save some for Monday coming up. We have Rachel Nichols In the hilarious story about the Bill Walton art theft. We have CJ McCollum someone. I would love to get back on Yeah with the hezzy. Hey, hey, hey Jim. Hey, and John Cena another a-lister who? Was about to risk it all fuck my belly button with his tiny dick. He said he has a tiny dick I didn't say it. He does another fun interview. So let's do that PFT. You got some more ads quick Yeah, that's right me and big cat have been playing on fan duel all season long You know by now we're running a 16 week season long contest with a leaderboard and the winner at the end of the season gets A trip to the Barstool Super Bowl party in Atlanta and don't worry if you missed a week or hell if you missed five or six weeks
Starting point is 01:20:08 So maybe you started out this season. Maybe you forgot about later on they only take your top eight scores Only your top eight scores count so you can play whenever you want and you can still join me and big cat in Atlanta I'm very excited to share a bed with an AWL. Oh, yeah, I've taught myself into it now Well, you really have no choice. Well, yeah, we're gonna build a fort Some sort of fort Harding under the fort there will be farting under the fort. Wow. No, you know what I'm gonna say this hide the peepee I am not good. What's how the peepee? You know what hide the peepee is. I've never wait What are you talking about pee or like peepee as in yeah tip of the yeah, we're not gonna play
Starting point is 01:20:46 We're not gonna play stash the salami. We're not gonna play bury the gourd. We're not gonna play hide the peepee We're gonna have fun. We're gonna tell ghost stories Who knows who knows what Hank will be there too. Sounds like you're starting to get a little Good thoughts are coming in and consider the fact that I might have to fuck one of these guys But it's gonna be fun. We're gonna have a good time Trust me will be an old-fashioned sleepover Not only that but places two through fifty will win an autographed PMT car stick and we're going to be giving out cool weekly prizes, too We're giving away stuff from big cats pile
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Starting point is 01:21:52 Fandall comm slash PMT bonus not available for withdrawal state and age restrictions apply for full eligibility Rules and terms and conditions go to Fandall comm. Okay, so here they are Rachel Nichols CJ McCallum John Cena All right, we continue Mount Rushmore week with the third member of our Mount Rushmore It is Rachel Nichols. She is officially first time first time Mount Rushmore Recurring guests congratulations Over text and I texted you back that like no lie. I was getting a little emotional over it Yes, you were very excited and I could sense the enthusiasm. So we'd like to send something. Let's call it Yeah, yeah, you're actually I think the only recurring guest that has gotten their recurring guest t-shirt. Mmm. So that's an even more exclusive club
Starting point is 01:22:43 They're being on the Mount Rushmore. Yes Where does this rank in in career accomplishments? It's on my Mount Rushmore of career Now so you say that you're very excited you say that this is you know one of the most important things They've ever done yet. You were 15 minutes late to call in us for us to record you So what gives I would like to explain that we had Bill Walton on the show today Bill with two L's literally Literally kept talking through the I had to throw to break with him still talking
Starting point is 01:23:18 He kept talking through the break and was still talking when we came on the air for the second segment And then and this is really amazing After we're done He gets up and there's a bunch of like art photos is like, you know hall of fame NBA players on our set He gets up and he goes over to the wall and picks the Bill Russell photo off the wall I'm taking this with me Ha ha Bill Walton. That's so funny and then he literally texts it under his arm and starts to walk away This is on the set. There's a giant hole now in the wall
Starting point is 01:23:55 And I say bill ha ha, you know, we do need the photo we're on the air again tomorrow And he's like, yeah, I'm taking it though. I really like it. It's beautiful. This is like a beautiful photo Yes, it is that's why we have it And then he said, well, I'm gonna just here here and then he takes a sharpie out of his pocket because Who doesn't travel with a sharpie in their pocket? He walks over to the wall and then signs the wall Where the bill Russell photo used to be and then said see here now you don't have a blank space anymore And then he walked off the stat with it under his arm and that is what I've been doing for the last 15 minutes All right, you've been tracking bill walton art thief the they should make a new oceans movie about bill walton
Starting point is 01:24:38 I'm happy you continued the story because we could have had you we're just saying bill walton We knew exactly when we would have been enough. Yeah, well when we interviewed bill walton We went for about three hours and around our two like two and a half hours in he kind of just came to and he's like How long does this podcast go for? We're like, uh, that's up to you bill and he's like, all right, let's wrap up It's like you you're the only one who's been talking Incredible All right, we now welcome on cj. McComb from the portland trailblazers Uh, he has a podcast it is called pull up pod. So you're kind of squatting on our corner here
Starting point is 01:25:15 We're you know, your basketball player who decided he's gonna podcast we can get into that because I got a tweet that's outrageous We need to start ranking these weak-ass journalists with descriptions of their strengths weaknesses and ability to make up sources What are we just? We're just eye candy for you. You just rank us like hot or not 10 That's very problematic. I think when you reverse the roles a little bit people get uncomfortable. You know, I mean, I'd say so We're analyzing rank us. Would you rank us right now? How would you say we are? It's obvious you guys are doing a terrific job. You guys are number one on the charts and I'm pretty far behind you guys So that kind of shows you you guys are really what are our weaknesses just from looking at us You can say my weight. It's a struggle with it. You can say that I've got stupid hair. Yeah
Starting point is 01:25:58 I don't I don't really know what your weaknesses are right now I need more time to kind of analyze the situation Didn't have to go back and listen to a lot of previous podcasts You know what is your consistency waiting until you get out of our locker room to talk shit on us That's actually a big-time journalist move. Do you so you're is this consider locker room? Yeah, this is a locker room Yeah, well, we'll get into that But I would say my biggest weakness as a journalist is that oftentimes I become best friends with guys I interview so then they give me their number and we text all the time after
Starting point is 01:26:25 So then when you talk about them when we talk after this then after After it's all over. We're such close friends that we won't ever talk shit about you Yeah on the show but then you'll give us courtside tickets when the blazers come and play in new york and scoops Those are expensive. Yeah, I know but that's like when lebron's visiting or do you want us to bash you or not? I mean, we're we are pay-for-play journalists. What do they say? Any publicity is good publicity. So You guys are gonna talk about me talk loud and clear so they can get my name right and spell it right Okay. Yeah, what's your diet like during the season? Do you have to eat clean all season long or do you give yourself a cheat day? I eat pretty clean. I'd say 85 80 clean chef does a good job of mixing up shot the chef b
Starting point is 01:27:03 Chef b shadow chef b you can follow him in the grandma chef I think it's chef b kitchen assassin. I will yeah chef b kitchen kitchen assassin Yeah, actually go to my go to my instagram and you'll be able to find it Speak to instagram's mine's three j. McCullum in case you guys were wondering. Okay. Nice. Yeah, I wasn't but now I am So I actually I saw that story I think it was actually a couple days ago when you said something about how you you know Not putting every single workout on instagram doesn't mean you're not working out, right? I tend to disagree I would like to see more box jumps in slow motion
Starting point is 01:27:35 But how annoying is that when you just are in the off season and you're trying to enjoy yourself? And fans are chirping you being like what are you going to get back in the gym? Knowing you're probably in the gym every day. Exactly. I mean it's a part of the lifestyle But sometimes it's frustrating because it's like the like the saying goes like a teacher does a tweet going to work today Going to teach the student take a picture teaching my kids You know what? I mean a doctor's not like yeah operating on the table like I always do It's it's a slippery slope but a lot of fans want to see that they want to see the progressions They want to see what you're working on some people are fans in general and just want to steal workouts from you
Starting point is 01:28:08 So it's not encouraging for them to only see you know the pictures of you on yachts and with your belly out and You know enjoying concerts or drinking milk. You know you can't drink milk going to fashion shows Or just relaxing and eating food and looking like you're having fun because you're supposed to be miserable after you lose I guess and just staying in a cave. That's true Everyone that doesn't win an NBA championship should not post should not travel outside their state And you should never put you shouldn't post on instagram unless you're working gal and you can only work out 23 hours a day you only get one hour yourself. Yes, that's true. You get to sleep maybe play a little fortnight So all right, that's that's to send your playbook. Yeah, that's true
Starting point is 01:28:44 I've wondered for a while about you know players that are at your level right now You know, you're capable of going out and dropping, you know, 40 50 points a night if you feel like it What do you work on in the off season to actually improve like you work on a new move So you got like, you know, oh, do you know the hessie jimbo the hessie jimbo? I like the real basketball head like me. I like the hessie jimbo, but you got a hessie off the jimbo So like you bought the shoot. Nope got you into the euro. Hey now fake jimbo hessie then euro fake jimbo hessie Okay, euro Okay, what's filet
Starting point is 01:29:21 I gotta get the filet my game is actually just uh Travel a little then pass the ball because everyone realized I just traveled and then just kind of stand out of the way You're a good cutter. Yeah, good cutter Maybe the first few possessions and I get tired Yeah, then I'm a spacer What do you do at your level to like actually improve your game like is there a move that you work on? Is there a different skill set that you work on? That's a great question. I thank you. I think great question. Thank you That's another that's another journalist trip. Yeah when somebody compliments your question you take the time to and then your co-host
Starting point is 01:29:53 Doubles the compliment. Yeah, okay. You were saying excellent question back to PFT's great question basically You you watch a lot of film figure out, you know strengths weaknesses What you're good at what you're not so good at and you continue to build on your strengths and then you work on the weaknesses And I think for me to continue to work on my body was one of the big points of emphasis from a balance standpoint strength standpoint core Uh, that'll help the lateral quickness. That'll help continue to tighten things up offensively and defensively So I've been spending some time in miami Dbc is where oladipo brought a lot of those guys their trainers are
Starting point is 01:30:24 They have biomechanics to kind of study your body Figure out some of the deficiencies in your movements and joints and ligaments and all that stuff So started there and just kind of tighten the body back up before you get back on the court and progress to going through moves Obviously working on moves because you know tighten up You know stuff I do consistently shooting dribbling passing And then you you take the the movements that you've done in the weight room and add them to the court So slides figuring out how to get in and out of your cuts coming off screens Figure out how to chase better because like you said before that team up, uh
Starting point is 01:30:55 In the west coast conference who seems to be in the finals every year They got a lot of guys who run off screens So you got to be able to chase tight avoid avoid screens and being shape enough to still score on offense Which is very very hard doing this league So that's the next step just continue to get better on both sides of the ball and it all starts with your overall body This year you hit your career high 50 points against the bulls in january. Where's were you in the zone? I think I was in the zone. I think uh, I was locked in it was a back to back I was pretty tired slept in a little bit
Starting point is 01:31:25 I think I went to sleep till like 4 a.m. That night It was one of those nights where you're just looking up stuff online watching netflix. Yeah, I hear you trying to pass time Yep, next thing you know looking up stuff online It's a wall Yeah, just looking up stuff online next thing, you know the first score is over and I had 20 plus and I'm like Oh, this is gonna be a good night tonight. Could you feel it though? Could you feel like the basket, you know? Yeah, once I once I hit the first couple shots the basket continued to open up and the form was crisp I didn't really feel like I was tired much
Starting point is 01:31:59 and um Coach coaches let let me rock Players kept kept feeding me calling plays for me and kind of empowered me to keep going like keeps going I think somebody came to me was like you're gonna get 50 and I was like, I don't know They like no if that 50 burger were you mad? Were you mad that the game was over because you were like in a once-in-a-lifetime type of zone? I didn't even play a whole fourth quarter. Yeah, you only played three quarters messed up Do you think I wasn't tripping man 15 three is like yeah a lot of people can get 50 in the game
Starting point is 01:32:26 Well, I don't know a lot of people probably can't but 50 and three quarters is special That means you're you're like a certified killer like me clay dame Coby certified killers Kobe. You should have I mean Kobe would never have taken himself out of the fourth quarter He'd have been like coach. I'm going for eight and no one else is getting going to score 40 in the fourth Do you think there's an asterisk though because the bulls were tanking? I think there's an aster by because when I have kids I can say I scored 50 and three quarters What did you do against the tanking against the tanking team? They're not gonna remember I don't think the shaka shaka bulls all the team Jordan played for yeah
Starting point is 01:32:56 Jordan was guarding me. It's gonna be like oh campaign was on that team This is before campaign got on the team. Yeah, true He goes he goes in and out. He just kind of lingers all the time Look 50 is 50. I don't care if you do it at your at your church. It's your church league or the community center What about on xbox? It's even tougher on xbox. Yes. It is. Have you ever put yourself in the trade machine? On espn. Oh, that's a yes. Yeah, that's a yes. That's that's a looking that's after you look up stuff online Late at night, then you go to the trade machine. Who said it has to be late at night? Well, you did you said you didn't sleep
Starting point is 01:33:31 I was talking about this particular incident where it was a back-to-back. We landed late. I had to research some things It could be yeah, I got a research plan. You got a plan. You got to plan your vacations in advance for all star break I got to research what makes me the most horny sometimes. Yeah, exactly. Uh, don't you already know that? You gotta dabble. We all evolve. Yeah, you're worse than you're worse than the baller. Who is KD? Call him blog boy Oh, yeah, well, you know what? You know, we call KD. Baby back bitch. Oh That was we do. Oh, yeah, it's very But he's he hates us. He hates blog boys. I think it's mutual love. Honestly. I think it's just confused love I think KD would have fun if you have his number. Can you call him right now? I have his number
Starting point is 01:34:13 Oh, oh I didn't mean to call him while I'm talking to bar stool. Why because I'm gonna say he's a baby back bitch Like yeah, you're right. You're right on that point. That's just such a harsh This is the harsh word blog boys is very demeaning blog boys is like it's like a fun fun loving What we're from when you say the B word is it's things to get out of hand. Okay, and hurry. Okay, so he's just a baby bitch We will take out back. Yeah Yeah, I know he started it. Yeah, we're we I listen I actually he's a nice dude. I can't I'd love to have him on Sometime wait a minute. You know, come on. I keep disrespecting him like that
Starting point is 01:34:51 I gotta be nice. I'm talking about a two-time champ KD. Listen, I I've totally switched. I don't think you're a baby back Yeah, no, I just think you're a baby. Yeah people who say that you're a BBB You're actually a big baller brand. Good job. Shout out to big baller brand. Yes. Shout out to big Shout out to Leetening anything is possible. Who? Hey. Oh, who else are we shouting out? Uh shout out to my snapchat cjm Shout out to my big Shout out to Cleveland Browns. Shout out to Cleveland Browns. You're gonna win a game this year We're gonna win at least six games Let's let's win. I love to bet on football. I think so. I am I don't know. I don't know if you are this
Starting point is 01:35:32 Okay, so you give us your money. We'll bet on football. I can't I can't agree to that over the airways Okay, so wink wink wink. All right, we can bet push-ups. All right. There we go. Let's get fit. Um, cj. Thank you so much Uh, appreciate you everyone subscribe pull up pod. This has been fun. You're now a recurring guest So anytime we want you on you ask come on. That's fine. Long as you guys continue to show my podcast love Okay, we'll shout it out every single Once a year, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say the team name that you don't want me to say anymore on the podcast Also, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this right now Because you you have told us that kevin durant's not that bad of a guy and that we got to stop
Starting point is 01:36:08 He's a really nice guy man. Y'all can't be disrespecting. I'll stop saying baby back bitch I appreciate that. Okay, because he's a nice dude. He don't deserve to be treated like just a just a regular pussy Oh Oh my goodness Y'all are incredibly Disrespectful All right, we now welcome on Some have said the greatest wrestler of all time
Starting point is 01:36:36 Jim ross ever heard of him. No, I've never heard of him. Yes on this show. He is not. Yes. He has No, it is uh, it is john sena. That is that is a bold face lie. How many titles do you have? What's that how many titles do you have with me? None just just in general was 25 in general. None. Okay. I don't have any on my person. I have none stashed at home Mr. John sena, that's a title. Yeah, uh, I believe you're talking about my father Oh, I like that. Do you get rings when you win a championship? Uh, sometimes if uh, the the places are open late enough. We go get a burger and some rings Okay, all right. What's the best way to gain muscle mass without having to work at it?
Starting point is 01:37:13 Uh, performance enhancing drugs. Okay. Yeah, all right. Well, we've actually tried those. We've tried them Didn't really work because I you also I don't tell you that part when you when you do it and then they're like, but you also have to work out I thought I could just, you know, rub some cream on my side and then boom The realest spray I was putting underneath my tongue for a while. I think speculating the future possibly dna altercation Okay, so messing around with the myostatin gene. It's interesting that you bring that part up because I think a lot of the fact that That you were able to, you know, recover so quickly has to do with the fact that you were a part robot Uh, well, if you had asked me that question in 2000 where my personality was half man, half machine
Starting point is 01:37:52 Right, the prototype you would be correct. So what was that character like? Uh, it was awful It was awful. It was just a horrible attempt at trying to relate to an audience that that was can you give us like just a little taste? Yeah, so uh, here it is. Oh the humanity That was pretty good. Yeah, you should do the voice for alexa I would rather have johnsina doing the prototype voice coming from a robot inside my house than alexa spying on me Whenever I tried to jerk off. Yeah, but my weird laugh is a lot more creepy Give it to us. No, I can't because it'll creep you out and you'll use it as a sound. Come on. Yes No, we'll cut this part. I do have b-sos on dm. Yeah, so I slide into his dms. Everyone's okay. Um, oh, do you really?
Starting point is 01:38:33 Yeah, he never he never You are Can you see that he read your dm though? No, I can't Um, he's got it like that. Yeah, jeff jeff knows about keeping things. Yeah keeping your information private Um, you're a big cargo shorts guy. I respect that. Thank you. Uh, they're very utilitarian When did you decide that you're just going to give up on looking cool? Uh, I think probably in Uh, eighth grade when I wore emcee hammer pants jinko's the matching rayon shirt. That's pretty cool though No, no, no not even at the time when they were in
Starting point is 01:39:07 It just wasn't in so 14 14 that's something to to look up to though. Like if I could just live life as a 14 year old Yeah, I'd be pretty happy. Yeah. Yeah, just hand jobs hand jobs hand jobs. Oh, wow Nice brag. Thanks. Somebody's 14 still different than some. Yeah, I was gonna say still never had sex But yeah, so you are obviously you used to be a but you were a bodybuilder for a little bit You have a great body. Uh, you're in very great shape. This is this question's coming. I need you to tell Pft has four nipples and I have one of the deepest belly buttons. You'll ever see can you tell us this? Let's see it What's going on?
Starting point is 01:39:45 Let's see Okay Okay, you see this belly button you get lost in it. That's a good one. Okay, so So and how far how far could you get your tiny penis in here? Well, that's honestly that is uh, that looks That looks like a homey vagina. Yeah, this is a big big belly button hole. It's a cave Yeah, there you go, uh, that was my last question. You have the the belly of a golden retriever That's very beautiful
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Starting point is 01:42:17 Okay Here is where you could stop if you were to save some stuff for monday if you have to work on monday on uh December 31st stop right here save yourself a little bit left because we have two new interviews coming We have kevin smith and we have peanut tilman Different ends of the world both great interviews. Yeah, really good interviews and very weird very strange Like topics that we don't normally get into with kevin smith. We went there a little bit with him Yep, he's a fun guy. Yeah, I can see why everybody loves kevin. We're not me and big cat are not comic book guys We're not
Starting point is 01:42:48 Um, that's I wouldn't call ourselves big movie guys if you want big time movie boys check out lights camera Damn that was beautiful segue. No, I'm being no and I'm being serious. That was I'm honest with our listeners But that was like a gorgeous setup. So go download like and subscribe There you go to lights camera barstool because those guys are the shit and they they know what they're talking about They're funny guys and they had kevin smith on as well They did so you can go listen if you like this kevin smith go listen to the other kevin smith Oh, and if you like pft. Cometer go listen to the The show that I did with them too right after kevin smith damn
Starting point is 01:43:22 Okay, I don't know if anybody out there likes pft. Cometer. All right, and then uh, we had peanut on peanut tilman for hall fame He is one of the best cornerbacks of all time And he was very fun very fun guy to talk to one of the night He's one of those guys that I feel like around the league everyone's like, yeah peanut tilman best guy ever universally liked and we should say going into it that um We were told that he would not be able to answer any fbi related questions He's becoming an fbi agent and we could ask but he would just not say a word to us and so we did ask And he didn't say anything. Yeah, no, we didn't ask. No, we didn't want to get killed
Starting point is 01:43:55 We played ball and it wasn't like that. He is trying to like not talk about it No, he just can't he's just legally not allowed to discuss it So we weren't we didn't ask it's similar to how you can't talk about being in the cia. Exactly right So here they are kevin smith and peanut tilman. Oh shit new ones. You just tricked me. Fuck. Damn it. I gotta get on from my handler Okay, we now welcome on kevin smith. He is the talented filmmaker actor comedian comic book writer He's got the uh new special comedy special silent but deadly silent but deadly man That's what it was called. It was on showtime and now it's just available everywhere You could stream it and buy it and stuff like that. Nice. Nice. So we are I was saying to you beforehand
Starting point is 01:44:36 We're obviously a more sports podcast. I am I'm not I've never been a big comic book guy But I'd like you to explain it to me because I'm interested in that world Yeah, and I've never fully it's one of those things that kind of just passes you by Yeah, like if you just miss it you miss it and I missed it. Let me show you how close you were You like sports, do you? Yeah, what are you liking sports the uh football great? Yeah, all sports these ball games Yeah, I'll all sport your favorite football football. Yes. Okay in football You've got good guys you got bad guys and they all wear costumes and masks And they all face each other and there's drama because you hope that your team the good guys are gonna win
Starting point is 01:45:11 Same fucking thing with comics. That's holy shit. Yeah, I guess big comic book guys The only thing is like think about it like uh, I know some cats who are big into athletics or sports don't necessarily view Uh wrestling through the same prison. Oh, I love wrestling. Okay. I love the late 90s wrestling think about it That's late 90s wrestling all wrestling is pretty much predicated on comic book adventure The wrestling that we know not of course standard Greco Roman wrestling, right the idea of like here's a heel Here's a hero and all that stuff. That's that's straight out of comic books Okay, so who's the biggest villain in all of comic books like the number one guy that you're like fuck that guy Um, I mean now. What do you mean? Fuck that guy? We because we love a villain, right? Like so think about it like, um, uh,
Starting point is 01:45:55 the joker beloved and hated Villain in a batman. So who do you hate personally the most hero or villain? Um, who do I hate? Um, you know, I hate people that don't like this shit Okay, not you because you're getting into it Well, we have yeah, we have we have like an open door for it. That's true. I'm not talking about you guys I'm talking about people like uh cap marvel trailer dropped yesterday Okay, uh for marvel's latest movie cap marvel female super heroine
Starting point is 01:46:23 This is the character is gonna be the lynch pin to beating Thanos in avengers Four you just spoiler alert, dude. No, that's all over the internet, but you guys don't follow. I don't have the internet Yeah, I mean, is that where there's porn? Sometimes they got naked pictures there. Sometimes they have facts about movies marvel movies. Sometimes there's sports news. Um, so that character Has second trailer now movie comes out in march and still there's a small contingent online That's like griping that she doesn't smile in the trailer. Mm makes me just interested You know, people would like you if you smiled more Unbelievable. Meanwhile, if you go look at like the trailer for like, you know, almost any other
Starting point is 01:47:01 Superhero movies. It's not like the male leads are like Right, you know, never not everyone is robert denny jr. That man is not exactly like he's pretty serious, dude That man's whole thing is to not smile because you imagine you watch a batman trailer. You're like smile, motherfucker So uh, don't smile a little bit when he was playing robin as he did because he was like, I can't believe I'm getting paid Yeah, he's like Cis but for now, this is good. Yeah, that was great. Um, I actually so I did uh, my my research mostly came From my buddy who's a big fan of yours and he the one question he wanted me to ask you Um, was in the movie clerks when randall was on the phone
Starting point is 01:47:38 Yeah, and he's listing all the names of the ponds. Was there were there anything that got left out? Yeah, a bunch. What got left out jeff anders. Well, I can't remember the ones that got left out specifically but I remember there was a short list and jeff anderson played uh randall and um There was a little girl in the store who we had to set a list in front of and she was like three Like so oblivious to it and it was uh, my friend vincent's Uh, sister-in-law had the kid and so they they were the ones sitting there listening while randall goes through the titles So randall jeff anderson goes, oh man, I don't you know, honestly like some of the shit I don't want to say in front of this lady and this kid like
Starting point is 01:48:17 Can you change this and I said, okay? And I took the list away and I added like 20 more titles and then handed it back to him So he wound up doing them all in front of the cats But some of them he he wouldn't go for because he felt they were too graphic The one that made me laugh the most and was predicated on a real porno title of the early 90s was jerk my cum crayon on color me white That's pretty good. It was a fantastic memorable title. Yes. I'm not sure the plot of the movie But I'm pretty sure I can I can base based on the title figure out what's going on
Starting point is 01:48:51 But he uh, he the fact that he did that and left some others off. I'm like, that's your line Like that one. Yeah, man's got to have a code. So it's true. So that movie you you've self-funded it, right? And you basically Maxed out credit cards and everything was there ever a moment you're like, holy shit. This isn't gonna work And I fucked myself just when I was walking in here today. I was like, I don't know if this clerk's I still owe that credit card. I'm still in trouble. Um, yeah, definitely definitely, but like there was no Choice like I once saw Richard length later made a movie called slacker And I was like, oh my god, like you just make a fucking movie. You don't need permission. You don't need a studio
Starting point is 01:49:27 You just do this So I Really the way I look at it was there was no choice like everything I do in life like good or bad Like when it thens, you know, sometimes you get a good result We're like, hey people like that thing and then sometimes or in my case most more stuff And you get bad result where people like fuck that and fuck you and stuff And so you're always faced with that moment where you have to you know go like, okay Was it worth it? Like did I do the right thing or blah blah blah?
Starting point is 01:49:51 There's two things I always kind of say to myself in those moments and one is um You wanted this like oh my god, you wanted this so bad you changed the fucking universe to make this happen You made people like put down their lives and come out of their way You found millions of dollars to do this like you wanted this so don't ever fucking sell out on him Be like was it a mistake like no you wanted this you made it and it's yours And then the other thing I always say to myself is what was the alternative like seriously What was I going to do sit there and wonder my whole life if I could have done it
Starting point is 01:50:21 I would eat it me like a fucking cancer. I'd probably be dead now So it's like I'd rather try it and no like my limitations and be like well, obviously I couldn't pull that off or even better Try it. Don't get it right the first time Go back try it again, which is something that I did say to myself first time we were screening the movie I was hoping it was going to be to a packed audience. Maybe a few few people would be buyers Uh, it was not the case. It was a really empty screening in the first 10 minutes I was like, why did I fucking do this and then I was just like, you know what man? Like you would have spent this going to film school
Starting point is 01:50:52 So just write it off that way go like you it's funny. You get paid you got to pay it off It's on credit cards. So you pay off the minimums, but I said Don't sell out on yourself Like make sure you do this one more time again before you leave this life because when you were doing it You knew exactly who you were for the first time in your life You felt comfortable like this is what I I should be doing and now that it didn't work out and fucking your dreams are gonna crash Like don't sell out on it
Starting point is 01:51:17 Like pay your bills off and then make sure you do this again before you live leave this life And thankfully the movie got picked up and my bills got paid off and boom That was to it again and then as you've kind of continued your career Obviously become very very successful and a lot of stuff that you've done Do you still ever get that feeling when you're working on you know big budget movie? You're already kevin smith. You know you are a thing Do you ever get that feeling like halfway through production or like before it screens and you're like I blew it Oh god. Yeah, absolutely. Um, but it's a matter of perspective. Who did you blow it for?
Starting point is 01:51:49 like The last movie I made was yoga hosers and if you look at the critics boy did I blow it But I look at that movie and I'm like It's exactly what I wanted it to be like and my tastes aren't matching up with the mainstream or the paying public's taste at this Moment in time Sometimes it does sometimes you say the right thing and people are like here's money for that that makes sense then sometimes you make yoga hosers where it's like, um Nobody else seemed to get it but I fucking love it
Starting point is 01:52:16 Like I'll die on the cross of this movie because it's exactly what I wanted it to be but clearly what I wanted Was not what the rest of the world wants as well So as long as you can get the some folks their money back if they've invested in it and stuff like that Like then it's it's not so bad. It's not like we've lost everything home video will catch you up and stuff But for me, I'd rather make the thing that you know people That maybe everyone doesn't embrace because that's the thing that I wanted to see the only reason I do this because I'm like I want to see this thing and if I can pull it out into existence I'll be able to to look at I'll be able to watch I'll be able to have it
Starting point is 01:52:53 Like I'll have something to show from my time and stuff So it's always worth doing and if it doesn't work, you know, you're like I fuck and then but I've learned over time that like Even though it doesn't work in the minute Sometimes it winds up working mall rats when the second movie I ever made came out Critics ship in its mouth and the movie made like two million bucks and nobody fucking liked it and shit people like stan lee Who the fuck is this? Now that's the movie that most people talk to me about. Oh my god. I'm all rats I fucking grew up on that shit. So it's a matter of perspective. It died in the moment
Starting point is 01:53:24 But now 23 years later I eat off on that for eat out on that movie Yeah, so so when you're pitching stuff to the money guys like you said and you know It might not be a sequel that you're working. Maybe it's a new idea like yoga hosers Um, how do you how do you like push these guys buttons? Like if you're pitching us right now, right how and just pretend me and big cat are billionaires because Done and done one day we will be yep. I'm gonna own the washington redskins some for Fucking hey, and so you've you've done so well with the sports teams that you're like Throw some money in an entertainment. Yes entertainment. Well first here's how I tell you boys
Starting point is 01:53:56 Put money into movies one of the most foolish investments you'll ever make in your life. Okay. Go on invest in sports You know why because sports people always want to go it is sports are seasonal It's cyclical so you can always count on money coming in on certain points Are going to see a movie that's a crapshoot man. That's like a really bad job pitching me Go to that part you but you could make a ton of money now. That's the thing. That's the thing I'm gonna tell you it's risky, but when it works. Oh heavens doesn't tell me that one One that's gonna work Here's what happens you make a movie that connects with the audience some way
Starting point is 01:54:29 And I believe that this movie that we're making right now I think it could connect with the audience in this way You do that and suddenly like they're paying you for dreams It's like giving you money for something that That isn't real there. It's something they'd walk out of a movie theater Don't have something to hold on to they've paid for the privilege just to watch Your dream uh because they dream a little bit too So I honestly feel that this one connects man like uh here in this instance
Starting point is 01:54:54 We'll make it we're making a sequel to jane song bob strike backs called jane song bob reboot So i'll use that as the example See I got you i'm interested jane song bob time honored they've been around for 25 years as characters And we made a movie where they were the leads once we haven't made that movie in 17 years of 17 years later We're gonna make a sequel man people are gonna want to come out and see that just for the freak value of it alone Even if they're like fuck jane song bob they're gonna be like i want to see what these two old men are up to So I think we're gonna make our money in silent bob that sounds like he doesn't speak so we don't want to pay him That's right. You don't have if he gets paid by the word. Yeah, you guys are in
Starting point is 01:55:27 Um, how much how much uh, did you have to do with goodwill haunting goodwill haunting was ben and matt wrote it Um, are you sure? Come on, which which one? Yes, are you sure? Yeah, they both did positive. You sure? No, wouldn't me you sure positive I would believe me but now this is winking at us right now. I would totally take credit if I could What would that be with 21 years later? You're winking at us. Who did most the writing? Uh, ben and matt I would imagine i'm gonna say matt. Okay. Okay. Good guess. Yeah, but I think because well here I'm gonna default to matt because it was matt's Idea well, no, they stole it from some guy, right?
Starting point is 01:56:02 No, but their friend erin had the title and they bought the title from he had a title for something He had called goodwill hunting and they love that title and they're like can we have that? And so they kind of masked it onto their flick I imagine i imagine ben aflick his contribution contribution was going back and it's adding fuck in different lines He doesn't say fuck it off here mart, dude. He's actually well educated like his mom was a teacher So he's he's well spoken. Okay. Uh, so so how much did you have to do with it though? Um, this is what my involvement with the goodwill hunting was I read that script and I was like, oh my god This is a fantastic script man
Starting point is 01:56:34 Let me see if I can get it into mirror max and we sent it into our guy john gordon He sent it to the top guy top guy bought it So within 48 hours of me reading it mirror max bought it So that was bad you had a lot to do with it I had a little bit of juice back then but it wasn't me. It was just the script was that good Yeah, like they had the script was already bought by castle rock castle rock wanted to make it But they didn't want to use ben and matt So they had this little window to be able to take the script out
Starting point is 01:56:58 And so they were like, hey, man, you work over at mirror max Do you think they'd want to be into this and that's let me read it I fell in love with it Brought it in made the plea for it where I was like this script. I mean, I know my friends wrote this But it's legit good. I think the script could win an oscar And they read it believed it and we were off and running So that was my only involvement and I swear to you if I had anything to do with it Oh my god, you would have heard about it like 10 minutes. I've heard about it while it was happening
Starting point is 01:57:22 I've heard about it. I would have stolen that credit like crazy. I tried to steal credit It just wouldn't have did you ever think because you obviously have been in a lot of your own movies Do you ever think they were crazy to be like, hey, look this script is so good. Just let it go Don't you don't have to be in it? No Like some people I think they were familiar with the story of sylvester stalone like when he wrote rocky Studios wanted to buy the script but he was like no, I want to play this part And so he wouldn't let it go unless he was attached to play it
Starting point is 01:57:48 So the boys did kind of a stalone They were two actors that weren't getting their breaks and they were like, let's write a screenplay And they took a page right of that book as well So I I think they were holding on the whole way because they knew it was their ticket They knew they had something good. You have that many people interested in something, you know, it starts to dawn on you Like oh, we shouldn't let this go and the people that they were talking about letting it go for were like the usual suspects back then It was lean honor to capri own toping maguire So, you know, the boys were like oh would have killed it. Yes, and but the boys were killing it already those two
Starting point is 01:58:23 But uh, he did later on kind of right when he did uh number two departed departed. He's got a good while hunting with guns Yeah, that's awesome. Uh, so you listed a lot of a list actors there You've worked with a lot of really talented people In the past you find it easier to direct a really good actor All right, let me rephrase it. Is it more difficult to direct a really good actor or a really hard actor? So easy to direct a good actor. You don't do anything like Like alan rickman great actor and he was in dogma You would uh, you know say action
Starting point is 01:58:57 He would do what he was going to do And then you say cut and generally you walk over and give notes to the performer and then go back and do it again Like second take or whatever So I'd say cut and I'd walk over to alan rickman Just be like fucking thank you and just walk away because there's nothing to say There was no like you should try it like great. So if you're a jedi if you're a ninja Like you don't there's no directing that goes on like even on something like super girl directed the most recent episode of super girl Go up and do the cw shows every once in a while
Starting point is 01:59:25 So I've done some flashes and some super girls like melissa benoist plays that character 22 23 hours A year like or in 22 that's wrong 23 different episodes of that show per year They're on season three now. Maybe four three Four um, so four seasons. She's been playing Cara danvers and super girl I've directed four episodes Not really gonna go on to a set and be like let me a middle-aged man tell you young lady how to play super girl
Starting point is 01:59:57 She and also she knows like she's done it to death So folks that like have done it a bunch It's not like I'm gonna come in and give him some incredible insight where I'm like This is my genius as director. What your job is is to set a really nice table so everyone could go fucking eat So, you know Bring out the toys so everyone could play real convincingly and shit And when people are doing that already when they're used to doing that 22 23 episodes a year I pop in for my episode. It's not like well, let me teach you fuckers about acting
Starting point is 02:00:26 They really know so really your job is just stay out of the way So it's very easy to direct talented people and to be fair. It's very easy to direct Quote-unquote un-talented people too as long as they're willing to take a ride with you You I could teach anybody to deliver a line because yeah, you just pay I need a line of dialogue Who's the bad guy from scarface? Who's the bad guy from scarface? Is the line? Yeah, okay You give me the line you give me the line and I'll jump in Who's the bad guy? Who's the bad guy? I'm sorry. I thought you were actually saying the line was
Starting point is 02:00:59 Scarface that was a scripted line. Who's the bad guy from scarface? I can't really direct an impression. Okay. Who's who's the bad guy? I need to do something. There you go But I liked the fact that it was from scar. I'm gonna give you 10 Who's the bad guys you tell me which one make it the full thought of who's the bad guy from scarface? That's the scene who's the bad guy from scarface. Good. Who who's that bad guy from scarface? I like the idea of you giving me a series. That's what it's called. Yeah, but you can't go that fast I got a process each one. I'll give you five Who's the bad guy from scarface believable next?
Starting point is 02:01:29 Who's the bad guy from scarface? Not believable next Who's who's the bad guy from scarface borderline insulting? Hey, who who's that bad guy from scarface pretty good. So I got two choices right there from my editing suite named my head I'm done with your coverage because I'm like I got two that I really like. Okay. Okay. Now you go Who's the bad guy from scarface? That's believable. Go again. Hey, who's the bad guy from scarface? I don't know if I buy the head. Who's that bad guy from scarface? Perfect. There we go. One more. Who's who's who's the bad guy from scarface? I was like acting over there. Who's the bad guy. But I got two. I got two. The first and the third were totally is And that's directed. Oh man. All right. Well, I know you got to run. This has been a ton of fun
Starting point is 02:02:09 Hey, I got one more question. Fire away So, um, I think maybe the lights came from barstool guys already talked to you about this But you well, I guess your wife authored my favorite tweet of all time I'm gonna read it to you Read it out loud. July 9th 2009 10 years coming up. It's coming up on the 10 year anniversary in july of that tweet of the tweet So that's a 10 year anniversary of your 10 year anniversary with your wife. Yes 10 years in and we bone like we're cheating on each other with each other
Starting point is 02:02:34 A decade plus and her clit slash brown slash taint area still pones my dick. Yes That's true still not my she she absolutely does I didn't write that tweet. I can't take credit for she wrote it, but it doesn't matter I believe that 100 and we're 10 years removed from that 20 years Well, 20 years removed from the first time we fuck but 10 years removed from that tweet Which she was technically the first time you fuck on your wedding night. No, oh But I didn't say that you said first 10 years from 10 years. I mean fucked totally, but that was 10 years ago 20 years ago. I wasn't saying the dick when we wrote that tweet got it. Yeah, I'm not a math guy
Starting point is 02:03:12 So your dick still getting pwned? Yes, my dick gets pwned on a regular basis. She's a poner I want you to back up real quick because what you just said was when we wrote that tweet. Yes, so Because she sat there and said this is what you wrote. Were you fucking when you wrote it? No, it was after we fuck Okay, she was very mad at me because you definitely didn't write it then Because after you fuck it's like who cares and they're gonna fuck again bang She was uh, she was irritated because I've been like tweeting. I've been dirty tweeting nothing that bad But like I would talk about like I like fucking my wife
Starting point is 02:03:44 She's like, why do people need to know that and I was like people like it it's entertaining and so, you know This is what this twitter's for and it was like early early in the twitter platform Yep, so she to kind of like punish me was like I'm gonna write something and you have to put it down And she's like and then we'll see if I can you can find it and so if other people If you find it as hurtful or as as embarrassing as I find it when you write the shit I there's nothing you could possibly write as that they would ever make me feel offended or embarrassed or anything like that And she goes like okay, and she took five ten minutes and she went through the internet and she was reading Other people's writing and then she said okay
Starting point is 02:04:19 I'm ready and she composed it by saying out loud and I typed it because it was on my Twitter and stuff like that And then she was like I post it and she's like you can never tell anybody that I posted that that's part of the deal I was like fine. I don't leave fine five years after eating shit from people online going like that tweet bro Why would you put that? Why did you misspell? Pone? I was like it wasn't me man. It was fucking her your noob. Yeah I hated that my internet Not the part that it was I was I mean
Starting point is 02:04:47 She was to be fair She was imitating what I was writing at the time which I was being very like complimentary about her and And the fact that we've been together so long and she's still even now 20 years now after pones it is ponin Yeah, it's pretty incredible. We actually had this conversation like last night where I was just like and I you know It sounds like some kind of thing you say to your wife, but it was like legit true like I was like I don't think I could and I in fact I know I couldn't like get into a relationship With somebody else most of my like sexual fantasies are predicated on her
Starting point is 02:05:22 Right, so she would have to be involved somewhere. Yeah, that's all in the pony. I like that. Yeah, it helps Just two people pony each other's browns clips. It's hard. Let's do it. It's hard hard to be a married man But not when you're ponin the brown in the clip All right, Kevin Smith. Thank you so much. Thanks for having a gentleman and now for something completely different Okay, we now welcome on Future Hall of Famer and we'll get to that Bear legend. It is Charles Tillman peanut Tillman. He is here at the cornerstone foundation Monday night football contest Can you tell me quickly about that? So we have the grand prize. We're giving away
Starting point is 02:06:00 Two tickets to join you in your you have a private suite For this game. Yes, it will be a private suite I teamed up with another former teammate of mine Kurt Coleman who plays for the New Orleans Saints We played together in carolina, but yeah, I'll have two tickets to a suite some food a sideline pass pregame sideline pass Um, yeah, we're kind of food. Oh man, it's carolina. So it's nothing but great food. It's down south food Okay, you know, and so southern hospitality at its finest in carolina So people can go sign up right now On visit any of your official social media pages to enter or visit go. Uh cau zeo
Starting point is 02:06:40 Dot com. Yeah, and sign up and yeah, or you just at peanut Tillman or on my my twitter and uh, instagram That's easier. Wait. So can I sign up by just saying it to you verbally right now? You cannot and it's the good thing about this It's only 10 bucks It's 10 but it's cheap. Yeah, it's 10 bucks to get all that So it's gonna be a good time. Nice. Nice. Well, thank you for joining us. Like I said beforehand I want to use this time that you are on part of my take to just craft your hall of fame speech Because you should be in the hall of fame and I'm mad that people don't talk about it enough. So let's start talking about it Okay, okay
Starting point is 02:07:17 You're a hallfamer I would like to be in the hall of fame. It'd be nice if somebody would vote me in people if the people voted me in When's your official eligibility year? I don't know. I'm not good with math. Um, I think I've been retired two years Okay, so we got some years to get the hype going but we can get some we can create some pamphlets It's weird to me that it isn't just a no doubter Peanut Tillman is a hallfamer. You had a half a turnover a game in your entire career Which is insane to actually say out loud. I didn't know that. Yes. That's true. Yes. It is absolutely true 77 77 turnovers
Starting point is 02:07:53 Peanut Tillman had 77 turnover 36. Yes 36 interceptions 41 force fumbles and your stats are actually kind of under inflated because you didn't play against jay color So that was mean. Well, was that me? Peanut size just went really wide. I mean, it's cameras on. I mean green. I mean, it's recording I mean, it's true. Yeah, I just got the big eyes. Here you go. D'Angelo Hall People talk about him for the hall of fame Four games because he had those games against jay. I mean not four games four picks. Yeah, he had a great game That was a good one Do you did you ever in your bare career because you obviously went through the whole, you know, hey
Starting point is 02:08:29 We have quarterbacks if you want to call him that Um, did you would you get mad at the offense when when they would not, you know, pick up the the defense? How good you guys were throughout lovey's career. Oh, yeah. Yeah for sure you get mad I mean, that's just the competitive nature of what we do Um, if you don't get mad, you shouldn't be playing. Um, I'm sure they they got mad plenty of times Probably not if I miss an assignment and it happens. We're not all perfect. I've missed plenty I've missed plenty of assignments and I've been cursed out many a time by teammates Uh, specifically brian urlacker. He's he's cursed me out a ton
Starting point is 02:09:04 um, but that's just the competitive nature of the sport and We hold each other accountable and brian's no different. He would hold me and everyone else accountable and when I would make a mistake hey, he would Wouldn't spare no curse word to get me right and then The day of the game when it's happening. I'm yes, sir. Yes, sir And then I'm trying to make up for that and then we go on the sideline and then he apologizes. Hey, man, sorry I didn't mean to curse at you. I didn't mean I'm sorry. I'm not mad. I just want to win
Starting point is 02:09:33 I knew better than that and I mean that was always refreshing and reassuring that he didn't it wasn't personal And I never took it personal one of those things where if he's not cussing your out of means He doesn't believe in you enough. He doesn't care about you Correct, which he did and again, I appreciated him and all the other teammates that you know when you make a mistake. It's They're not belittling you. They're just they're holding you accountable. Hey, that's your job Make the you know what play did you curse him out when he got juked out by tom brady? Um, no, I was still fairly young in in that time But uh, I made fun of him out outside of that. You had two picks in that game. I did have two picks that game
Starting point is 02:10:08 Yeah, yeah, I mean like I said turn over You could basically pick a game and be like, yeah, well you had this you had that Yeah, we should have won that game too. We should have won that game that 06 season When did you know that that defense was like special special? Oh, arizona? Yeah, arizona the the the day we We came back on that monday night football game Yeah, offense didn't play too well. Uh, you think yeah, yeah, they didn't play too well Did you yell at rex gross in that game? I did not I did not see i'm not a I only would talk about or talk to the people on defense because I know our defense
Starting point is 02:10:46 I don't know what offensive players do. I don't know their scheme. I don't know their plays So I would only focus on our offense. Excuse me. I would only focus on the defensive players and whatever we were doing And when I knew a guy was supposed to be in an a gap or b gap and I'd a I need you come on now And mine was more or less Not really yelling, but I'm just talking to you, right? You know, I like when people talk to me and they're not yelling Sometimes when you yell people they feel some type of way they get a lot. I'm a man. You can't yell at me I never took it like that. So for the most part, I would just talk to you
Starting point is 02:11:18 What a stern voice not really yelling and then just say a man to f up. Let's go do your job So so that game you guys Obviously a huge hole and then it all just kind of avalanches on the cardinals and the defense makes play after play after play Like what's it? What's it feel like when a defense? Because you know when you watch football the offense can take over a game where they're hitting everything It's something special when a defense takes over a game like that And it's almost like every single play you just know the defense is going to make a big right, right? So I give Olin crutes credit for that game because he gave one of those
Starting point is 02:11:55 Phil Jackson the coach from Hoosier kind of speeches at halftime And he just goes hey man, we're going to win this game. I don't care what y'all say We're going to win this game. Whatever you got to do hit the man in front of you Hit him in his effing mouth and we will win this game. You can say fuck. Oh, okay It's a podcast. Okay. Olin crutes not to be trifled with If he tells you you're going to win the game, you better win the game Yeah, and we did and it was like, yeah, we all listened to him and then we went out there and I mean the rest is history. Everyone just everyone started making plays. It wasn't
Starting point is 02:12:29 We're waiting for Brian to make a play not like everyone went out and just tried to make a play and that's what made I think that's what made that defense special. We would We all made plays. We were all playmakers. It wasn't just one person And I think it's top them and we had the Rams chiefs game earlier this year Everyone was saying it was the best modern day football game of all time I think that that bears cardinals game was at least top 10 In terms of excitement and how it all went and just watching something and saying how is this happening? I can't believe what's going on. The thing about the rams chiefs game though is it was great to watch the offensive play
Starting point is 02:13:01 But they scored over a hundred points. Like there's no defense. Well, there was there was defense though There was the uh an interception return for a touchdown a couple force fumbles Yeah, I know what you're saying. You still gave up 50 something points. Like it's like oh man I just can't I can't get down like that. Does it piss you off watching the NFL now? It does because the rules favor the offense so much and as a defensive player Maybe I'm biased call it what you want. I don't really care, but they favor the offense and it's it's frustrating to watch and fans For whatever reason they they want to see how high scoring games and to me it's not fun
Starting point is 02:13:39 That's not good quality. Um, it's not good quality football. It's impossible to cover guys now It is the way they call p.i.'s on defensive players. It's ridiculous. You know when I look at Offensive players with how much they Slightly push off and then they don't call it nothing. Um, looking at the rules. I'm looking at sarquan Saquan, how you say it? Saquan, um, I mean great Offensive rookie player of the year for sure. No doubt, but I saw him stiff arm somebody the other day right in the face I mean and it was and it buckled the guy's face, but
Starting point is 02:14:16 He tried to grab him and he just accidentally grabbed his face mask and he got a flag and I'm like come on y'all It's the face mask thing the stiff arm. Oh, you can hit me in the face Right on offense punch me in the face. You can punch me literally you can punch me in the face and it's legal It's fine. But yeah, if I'm on defense and I'm rushing the passer and I slightly touch the offense of lineman's face mask True. It's a flag like come on man What was your favorite trick to get away with because I've noticed that defensive backs used to do this thing like Especially on a crossing route the passes come in they like slip their hand behind the back of the receiver And pull on it as they die in front the refs has gotten they've gotten good at calling that
Starting point is 02:14:55 But what was your favorite like little dirty trick to do? So the trick really is You just have to grab the back arm. So I know we're on video and I'm camera. So if the quarterback is coming from this way, is this your uh, your tight end What am I doing your left tackle? Yeah, you can this is this is this is the receiver right here. Okay. I'm the receiver. Yeah My lovely wife is the is the ball. Yeah, she's throwing you the ball It's hard for a receiver. It's easy for you to catch it with this hand, right? Yep
Starting point is 02:15:25 So get me right here. I would just try to grab this hand Uh-huh and let you catch it with one hand. Let's probably make that Yeah, yeah, I'm coming across as a safety. Oh, yeah in your face. So there's there's there's certain ways to do it Um, you can't grab the jersey because when you grab it it all that shows like I see a lot of guys doing that Mostly I get so frustrated with these dbs. We're looking at the game the other day The dbs their eyes are in the backfield. They have terrible eyes. Your eyes should be on your man Should be more carrots. Yeah, it's just something something look at the man. Look at who you're covering It's the one thing that pisses me off more than anything as I'm looking at
Starting point is 02:16:05 So you think it's a coaching problem then? No, it's the players because I'm sure the coaches are saying keep your eyes on the prize Which is the person you're guarding eyes on a prize. That's what we always say I've always I've always heard it's impossible to defend the back shoulder throw. Is that true? No, not at all How do you do it? Ah, I wish we could stand up. I could show you. Um, I'm on orthodox. Um, they would tilt so I like to square up. I take the inside away. I'm gonna make you throw the fade, right? A lot of time when you see and you can look this research it you'll see
Starting point is 02:16:40 Liam you can research it too. Yeah, we watch the tape. We watch all 22 Everyone's hands are down like this and you can go back and y'all come back on y'all podcasts. You will say see that I'm right db's their hands are Down right here and as soon as the ball snap they put their hands up right here Well, if I'm getting into fighting you and I are fighting I promise you I'm not gonna fight you like this With your hands on my hands on your side gonna be right here and I'm throwing number ones and twos all day long The receiver gets a free release off the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 02:17:10 Yep And then that just allows him by something so if you jam him at the line of scrimmage You mess up that time because the only thing the quarterback's doing he's one two three He's throwing. Yeah, so my job is to mess up that timing So when you're off the ball and your hands are down here, you're not really rerouting. You're not messing up the timing You're not doing anything. You're giving them what they want. Yep. You know, which is that jump ball I'm gonna try to reroute you with my feet in my hands Try to mess up the timing to give myself a better chance to at least make the player be in a better position
Starting point is 02:17:41 Yeah, so the best way to defend the back shoulder is to just not let them throw it at all Well, yeah, a sack would be nice, but you really got So to clarify what i'm trying to say is you can't let the receiver get a free release You can't let him get a free release. You gotta get physical at the line of scrimmage You gotta move your feet jam them a little bit Discombobulate them, throw them off get the timing off. It's all about timing. That's a nothing but a timing play Do you play like flag football or anything now that you're retired? No I'm I'm good. I don't I've I played the real thing. So flag it wasn't it
Starting point is 02:18:13 Yeah, I mean, are you good though? I don't know. You don't play. You don't go out there. No Here's the thing. I think if I were to play flag football, I would dominate everyone to be awesome. I would Domination is amazing. Yes. It is amazing. I love to dominate But I really think if I were to play in a flag football amateur league, you would get that one idiot Who's like, oh, I'm gonna beat and then he would go out and just be like uncle riko from napoleon dynamite And just do some crazy stuff like I'm I think I'd be it's like me. I'm good The only way I would play flag football is if I play with other professionals that were retired Because they get it. Yeah, because they get it. They know we're out here. We're having fun
Starting point is 02:18:55 But yeah, we're still competitive. So we don't need to go too hard. Yeah. Yeah Do you ever find yourself Just everyday life wanting to do a peanut punch on people like you see them carrying groceries and they're really loose Yeah, I just want to punch that right out of their hands all the time all the time. Um Son's football games is going to my son's flag football games and I'm looking at the little kids carrying the football I'm just like, oh my god, son. I could you could just do it the ball out. Forget the flag. Just knock the damn ball Yeah, but he hasn't he hasn't quite picked it up yet. So what does it mean to carry the ball like a loaf of bread? I mean, I know what it means, but why do they say that? I have no idea
Starting point is 02:19:31 But it's the dumbest thing ever because you're I mean that loaf of bread will be it'd be messed up It'd be all squeezed together and just it wouldn't make it wouldn't be good to eat Would you rather force a fumble or pick somebody off? uh I think I like forcing fumbles because I did it in such an unorthodox way. It's your brand. That's the word of the day Unorthodox that's the word of the day. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was different. I think I I changed How people thought about what damn he's not a delamina or a linebacker and he's got all these takeaways or excuse me for his fumbles
Starting point is 02:20:06 So, yeah, I have to take away a game. Maybe we got to keep saying that That's the phrase of the day. Have to take away a game. Have to take away a game your entire career Who is the hardest guy to peanut punch? Ah Agent Peterson I knew you were gonna say that he he runs hard. He's he's a hard runner and um, he's he's very difficult to bring down um Marchion Lynch he runs hard after I'll I'll show you uh, I think I was miked up hand me my phone jack
Starting point is 02:20:38 I was miked up for a game and you see This is when he was in Seattle. So I was miked up for a game and I run over to him and you know, he he sees me and he goes hell. No, I see you I see you ain't getting this you ain't getting it and we go down to the ground And he's like laughing nonstop, but he's like hell. Hey, I see you cull. I see you My man, I was like hell. No, you ain't getting this hell. No Do you think that actually ended up hurting you that that you had such a memorable, you know
Starting point is 02:21:11 The peanut punch like everyone knows about the peanut punch Do you think it ended up hurting you later in your career where people were always expecting it? No and ready for it No, so here's the thing. So people people would talk about how they would expect it and After a game whether we won or lost you'd walk up to players and I'm like, man We worked on this stuff all week The the Dallas game, uh Dallas 2010. I think we were losing and Um, I hit it out of royal Williams is uh, royal Williams hand, right? So after the game, um, One of the receivers, I don't know if they said it in a press conference
Starting point is 02:21:49 It's like man They told us this dude was gonna punch the damn ball out. We worked on it literally all week Long and he still got it out. It's like, uh, I mean you could tell it was like Frustration on their mind. It was it was awesome. But no, I don't I don't think that hurt it at all if at anything Here we go. Let me see. Oh nice. Let me see Make sure I got my volume up so you can see Right in front of us
Starting point is 02:22:32 That's what I swear to god you good, man. I've seen you. I've seen you. Is that a club out there or just you have? Um, I think I just have it just on your own phone. That's pretty awesome. That's awesome Yeah, if you can get to a place in life where you're walking around with your own private highlight Yeah, you have you have the unedited Yeah, that was I don't know what year that was that was back when he was in uh, those one I think we still had Reebok uniform. So yeah What what was your favorite game that you ever played? Ah, so I have two
Starting point is 02:23:00 Um, it was 2008. Um, there was this uh, little kid His name was Dax and Dax was diagnosed with a very rare form of cancer And my wife says hey, you know, um, and he was he was terminal was three years old He was terminal. He was trying to make it to Christmas. It was his favorite. Um holiday So my wife goes you should honor him some kind of way and I'm like, all right. All right So I wrote Dax literally all over um on my wristbands and I had a sweet rag or the white towels I wrote Dax on it. I believe it was a sunday night game And it was a home game for us
Starting point is 02:23:33 um Deshaun Jackson, he's killing it right now. You know, he was getting like, you know He had like four or five touchdowns for over 60 yards So I'm covering him and I just had this mindset. It was like, all right. I gotta shut Deshaun Jackson down and um You know Donovan nap throws in a play throws in the ball A force of foam ball boom next thing, you know, he um gets another ball force another foam ball boom Okay, I'm feeling pretty good late in the third or fourth quarter
Starting point is 02:24:03 Lashaw McCoy's running the ball and he's already got like two guys on him and he sees it And he he puts two hands on the ball and just covers it up and I just ran in there and just was hoping And like the dude on the what's the the man with iron fist. I just went in there and just punched And the ball came out again. I have a clip of that as well Let's see that one too. The only reason I know that is because you you posted that Yeah, Lashaw's one of those guys that I imagine when you just saw him running with the ball at all times Your mouth would start to water because he holds it like oh my goodness. Oh man. It was oh, it was just like It was like blood in the water. Yeah, but that that so after I um, I get it from Lashaw McCoy
Starting point is 02:24:41 after our force that foam boat when we get it spiced Anthony Adam, he picks up the ball and I remember I was so I was emotional like everyone was like, oh good job. Good job And I'm like I kind of I cried a little bit. I tear it up And I thought about this kid and I remember looking at my wife And I'm pointing to her and she's pointing back at me and I'm just like, oh my god What is going on?
Starting point is 02:25:07 And I believe a couple of guys like man, you straight you crump like it and it was for me It was just like a very emotional game. It's kind of like the the bay brouffe when he you know, it points out He's the home run. Yeah, it was just extremely emotional and then we played a Monday night game and We played a Monday night game in Dallas back in 2012 and there was another Um, young lady that was very close to our family. She passed from some hard complications Her name was Molly and um, I did the same exact thing. I said it's up except I didn't force a fumble Uh 20 rumor threw me a pig six on Monday night football I remember running it back and was just like
Starting point is 02:25:45 Normally I'm excited but for those I just I was excited but My excitement was in a different way. Yeah, you know, I thought you would have thrown out there the titans game in 2012 That was in retrospect looking back at it. That was kind of almost the last Not the last raw, but sort of the last raw for the lovey era Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure four force fumbles And it was like I remember watching that game and just laughing because it was every single It was just turn over turn over turn over turn over and the titans had no chance in that game It was a fun one. That was a that was a fun game. Who was uh, who was your favorite quarterback to intercept?
Starting point is 02:26:22 Uh, Aaron rogers. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I've only intercepted him one time. No, uh, technically twice But once it was a off sides play and they didn't count it, but yeah, we're gonna count that See if that one counted then it would have been like point five one Turnovers per game. You're mad. This is as good as mine. That's what this highlight video of your peanut punch Yes, this is pretty cool. Yeah the the eagles one that you just mentioned was awesome. So that was yeah Again, that that game was significant because it was I was playing for something else. Yeah, I was playing for something in that 2012 season You had we're just gonna keep hall of fame if the hall of fame commission's listening 10 10 force fumbles in that
Starting point is 02:27:03 2012 season you only had three picks so kind of sucked, but they were all pick sixes I'll take that so It's gonna happen like if you don't get the whole fame. I might I might I like your I like how you think Speak it into existence. Yeah, I'm a firm believer. You you are Your numbers stack up with any Cornerback that has ever played the game and people don't talk about it. Well, it's I don't know man. I I I have you guys. I have barstools boards. That's that's what you Liam. Yeah, Liam over there. What is the s stand for Liam? The supreme is a hype
Starting point is 02:27:39 Okay, I didn't know that he's one of these kids with all the threads. Yeah, this drip is off the charts What do you think about what do you think about this year's Bears defense? I think they look good. I think they look good I like what I saw yesterday more people making plays other than Colomac, Eddie Jackson, Kyle Fuller, Hicks They're all making plays and again, it reminds me of us and We didn't want to live in the 85 bear era, right, you know, no one does no one must live anyone else's shadow And I think they were they probably get tired of hearing about the lovey smith bears Yeah, and air and stuff like that. So I think they're trying to create their own identity and so far
Starting point is 02:28:19 I think they're doing and they're doing a really good job Do you think that sometimes playing for offense is that you knew We're not going to be able to light it up actually made you guys better because you go out in the field And you're like, well, we better score two touchdowns today. Uh, yeah, that was the thought and that was the thought process Thought process going into a game. I remember a co smith came To our room one day and goes a We need to score We have to score if we score this game. I don't pick one. Okay if we
Starting point is 02:28:50 You just like 20 you can pick. Yeah, I know he goes Um, if you if we don't score, we will lose this game I'm holding the defense response before this game. We need to win and defensively, we were so good because We thought differently than any other team or to be offense like I think all 11 guys On the field at the time. We knew we were going to get a takeaway. We knew we were going to score like we just We truly believe that we were going to do something amazing and The majority of the time it it would happen. Yeah, I mean as a fan
Starting point is 02:29:25 I would I remember just being like I wish the defense was back on the field Just punt the ball let the defense because that's our best chance of scoring sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, and I think too We played for each other. We were a really tight-knit group and we would do things outside of Hallis Hall, who who set the tone on that? Who's the leader? Uh, brian brian. He was he was a good. He was a good captain. He was a good leader Um, we would do dinners whether it be a team dinner playing cards Db's would do stuff bowling like we just we hung out a lot and when you do that You build a rapport with the people that you're going to war with and you know about them their families
Starting point is 02:30:07 Um, you just you you learn to trust that person a little bit more because you're spending that much more time With them collectively. Yeah, and it's I mean I could say the same thing about when I was in carolina in 2015 And we went to the super bowl like it was the same group of guys like guys that Caret more about you guys that would sacrifice themselves on a play They might might they might not get the credit But they know if they throw their body in there create the pile You're going to get the tackle. It was selfless defense. Was that the year thomas davis broke his arm and that came back and played in the Superbowl. Yeah, did you see the scar that was on his arm in that game? I did. Holy shit. What's wrong with that guy like
Starting point is 02:30:44 Selfless guys willing to play for other people guys putting it on the line. So 2015 The titans game we played tennessee. I partially tore my aco Um after the game. Yeah partially torn at the MRI whatever the next day partially torn. What do you want to do? Well, I can still walk. I can still run. I'm playing. I'm pretty sure it's gonna tear But you know what at this point in time we were like 12 and 0 and I knew we were going to the Superbowl. Hey, I don't care if it tears or not I'm the starting corner and I'm what we have Well, then if it tears it'll tear I'm putting it on the line all for this team and I made it to like
Starting point is 02:31:24 The last game of the season before it actually tore and did I know it was gonna tear crazy? Yeah, I knew I knew it was gonna tear But it was just a matter of time and I was trying to get as much as I can to help our team Win and it and it worked out. So I missed Superbowl, but do you guys win that Superbowl if you play? I don't know question. I don't know. What do you think about cams business decision? Yeah, I think you just go for the ball man. It's you know, be a team player rank your quarterbacks you played with Cam was great. I love cam. Especially that year. No, I mean, he was great because he's where's j just tell me where j is I don't know where j is. Yeah, I think j and j and cam are the probably the the two quarterbacks that I play with the most
Starting point is 02:32:08 um What made cam good that year was His presence on the field like he he he had a swag about Himself and I think the offense they gravitated toward that. Yeah, and it was fun to watch It was just like watching this big six foot 260 pound kid go out there and just wreak havoc on everyone. What do you think about his post game? outfit so In a loss, I think they're very eclectic. Yes
Starting point is 02:32:37 It's tough in a lot. He needs to go with two different He needs to have the win and the loss outfit because yesterday he looked insane Wearing the suity war after losing to the bucks. So I couldn't pull it off I personally I can't pull it off some of some of the stuff. I love his hats though I gotta give my props his hats are his hats are always on point The other the suits and the the slippers that he had I can't I couldn't pull it off. Okay. I can't I can't do it. So back back to the big cats question j cutler rex grossman Kyle Orton
Starting point is 02:33:09 Kyle was good kill painy kill pain. Yeah, I can't so I'll do I'll do Todd Collins Don't even get me started. Yeah. Oh, you're not a Todd Collins fan What game was that where the 2010 The the he came in and then Caleb Haney finished the game, but it was yeah, because Jay hurt his knee I wish Alex Brown was here right and you're the defense played so well in that game The defense played the roger scored on that first drive huh Oh, yeah, josh mccount. You look like you have ptsd from just these names
Starting point is 02:33:42 Is one of the dopest human beings alive. No porn though. Yeah, he is the dopest. Do you ever talk to you about not watching porn? No, he he never spoke to me about have you seen his youtube video? Yeah, he's very anti-porn because when you watch porn It's like you're getting on a plane and you think you're gonna land in minnesota But then you land in nebraska after you watch porn here. Like how did I get here? Yeah, you should check it out. It's very informative It is okay. Yeah, okay a lot Okay, did you take it personally when it was no nut november for a second? Where you like are they talking about me? No, not at all. Never not me
Starting point is 02:34:15 Never not me. I dislike him. He's a dope human being Yeah, no, he is like his character. Yeah, he's just so Okay, so oh wait, hold on You like josh mccount this much that means you have to like j cutler out of the transitive property because j cutler basically brought josh mccount back Yeah, he was a gym teacher and j brought it. So now point point j there we go point j Uh, yeah, new york jets. Amen. If y'all don't like y'all quarterbacks, send them back to chicago because he he's awesome He is good and the city loved him. I don't think we know. Yeah, I don't think we can handle having the backup again
Starting point is 02:34:50 The whole thing that was that was quite a thing. Um, all right So everyone hit up peanut on twitter on instagram anywhere you want anywhere. I want and sign up This has been a ton of fun. Appreciate it. Hall of famer Charles Tillman hall of famer point five more than rod woodson. Mm-hmm more than Um, uh, brian dockins. I got a landers. I think it was more than dion sanders Okay, there was a there was a whole list that I had you need to put together some blind resumes Yeah, we gotta where you win all of them. We'll put it together. Yeah, we're masters of spin zone
Starting point is 02:35:22 We can you are way better than all those guys. Yeah, I'm not saying that I I give credit and pay homage to all those guys because they made it to the hall of fame and you'll be there They want some super bowls too. So I sit front row when you make it there. You should be like I started it Yeah, okay, you can do it. I want the world to be there, man If it happens entire world. Thank you so much. Thanks guys Okay, that was kevin smith and peanut tillman never before heard new interviews That's what we do. We give you a little best of we give you a little never before You know new stuff so that you have a little this little that
Starting point is 02:35:55 Taking you into new years just a reminder We will be back with a live new episode on january 2nd recapping week 17 Recapping all the bowl games recapping new year's eve everything that you need We'll be back on schedule for the wednesday and then the friday ready to roll Um, and that does mean we're gonna have to work on new year's day. Yeah, we always do which is a lot of You would think that we wouldn't like working on new year's day There's there's so much stuff to talk about. It doesn't matter how hungover we're gonna be We're gonna do it. Absolutely get back in back in the saddle again. Uh, all right. So let's finish our 2018
Starting point is 02:36:29 And first of all, thank you everyone for listening. This has been the best year for pardon my take 2018 We've grown month over month. It's actually we're having this conversation last night How it's insane to think about how big we've gotten we actually don't like to do it No, I don't think about it because if you do think about How many people are listening right now? I just psyched myself out turn into a big puddle of pus Right, we wouldn't be like, hey, let's hit a gravity bomb No, we're like think about think about this for a second Hank think about this How many people listen to pardon my take?
Starting point is 02:36:59 How many cops in that group? It's got to at least be like 50,000. Yeah I think that I mean just do the what is it one in every three people in america is a cop. That's true That's good though are in the cia So damn it's more than that. It's like 300,000 cops listening to this show You want to hear something else? No matter what team we talk about if we're making fun of anybody We're actually going to get probably 30 to 70,000 people violently angry. Yes always no matter what That's the beauty of sports a lot of people. Yeah, that's a lot of people. So let's stop thinking about it
Starting point is 02:37:30 Yeah, but it's been an awesome year and we really appreciate everyone listening. We have a huge 2019 coming We're going to kick it off right away with the Super Bowl little road trip. Yeah, you heard that right little road trip But we figured the best way to end 2018 I have a question real quick before you do this. So that's a little teaser Yeah, so stay tuned for the best way to end 2018 What team do you think that we could slander that would have the fewest amount of people mad at us? phoenix coyotes professional team Fuck the phoenix coyotes. Yeah. Well biz biz won't no long. He doesn't know how to use this
Starting point is 02:38:01 Nobody knows even where phoenix is phoenix has a hot biz doesn't even know where it is. Yeah Where do you guys play like you just have like a some rich guys pool? That's indoors that you you turn the temperature way down and turns into a skating rink least losers The least amount of feedback we get for a football team nfl football team We've got actually a lot of hate from dolphins fans. Yeah, we have a lot chargers No, no, no, remember they got really upset when we kind of made fun of them for losing for the san diego community for losing the chargers Maybe you know what titans probably the arizona cardinals card. Yeah, just the whole state arizona pick it up in 2019 Fuck phoenix. Yeah, let's go. I do like scott's dale. Yeah, of course scott's deals great waste management open is a lot of fun
Starting point is 02:38:42 Yeah, you just drive around restaurants restaurants It's either a restaurant a bar a strip club or like some weird sonora hot dog stand love it It's great or like yeah some place where where your mom can get cowboy boots. Yeah fashionable hard like a gun store in a strip mall Yeah, exactly. So Listen, if we have one goal for 2019, it's that arizona starts listening to more part of my take get mad at us It's on you guys don't change your clocks You'd probably like us because we get confused with time zones too. Yep So, uh, here we go the end of the best of episode. Thank you for listening
Starting point is 02:39:15 We have best of boomer best of fantasy fuck boys best of grab bag So it's just a whole mishmash of the things you loved in 2018. Happy new year. Have a safe new year We will see you right on the other side. Actually, you know what? We'll see you next year. See you next year. Love you guys We start in cleveland where the dog pound had their chubbies out Nick that is now that carlos hide is gone The browns made an impact chub institution putting the falcons defense in trouble trouble Nick chubble the space telescope also had a 92 yard touchdown which made the falcon see stars You can find the browns in the chub bottle full of dub after that win and atlanta on an express train to the off season
Starting point is 02:40:02 Chubba chubba chubba chubba chub Brown's 28 falcon 16 if your chub lasts for more than four hours, please seek medical attention immediately In our nation's capital the bastion of liberty and democracy Where clinton's dick makes his return to dc But the redskins experience electile dysfunction lasting more than four hours and pittsburgh James conner outclass nicolas cage chubb and pounded the rock all sunday long wrong movie boom Oh, yeah teach conner is a movie where he had to overcome the violent sexual deviant that was trying to take the plane off Of course. No, that's uh, ben rozzisberger there schwamp
Starting point is 02:40:40 Wait, what was conner of the movie with patrick swazy where he keeps getting to bar fights? No boom. You're thinking of todd hailey. Sorry, teach. I think I've had one too many No, no, that's requiem for a dream. Want to do ass to ass. Okay, teach open up Some spread next up the city of brotherly love where eric terraried went wild on julie ertz's husband The eagles fought hard with a defense offense combo of long cocks and small wood But carolina had nine lives on sunday and in a touching tribute to kim kardashian The cats went down early and then came from behind I hope you hit up that paypal because my free cam newton put on a show for the boys
Starting point is 02:41:23 Patrick's 21 eagle 17. What that's a great video Swamp as thai mont comery was showing his oh, no face Up to with a point spread of 7.5 and one point away from the over under some spread Todd golly breaks loose and he's rumbling and he's stumbling and he could go John mccasey's play calling looked like an angry milk kuiper before the draft Todd Todd Todd Todd Todd Todd Todd Todd Todd in charlotte the ravens take on the panthers and lamar michael jackson is trying to tell joe flacco to beat it But as baltimore was trying to spin records carolina was trying to dj more the panthers started two tight ends
Starting point is 02:42:06 Instead of a running back or wide receiver. What do you think about that fantasy play teach? Weird flex, but okay an arrowhead the kansas city chief keeps and all their bitches love sammy sosa walkins And it's always macaroni time for andy reed joe flacco would rather be a cowboy baby Then throw it to wide receiver lamar jackson and john harbaugh with the bar the pan to tan diggy diggy diggy Set the boogie set up jump the boogie remember to vote on tuesday folks kid rock 2020 and mile high the bar goes Hopped out the bed turned the swag kelly on took a look in the mirror and said Actually forget it. Let's just lose again with case kato in the words of my close personal friend pink tjj one
Starting point is 02:42:50 Don't you ever ever feel like your last Montes perfect Steeler 28 bangles 21 some spread Standing on the corner jamis winston tampa florida such a fine sight to see It's a Todd my lord in the stolen fort and he's about to lose his job as you'll see Come on
Starting point is 02:43:18 Your office is Just let you be you and it will be through sailing The giants fall to one in sex and even sick one charles berkeley thinks that that's terrible. That's terrible. That's terrible. That's terrible But it was deandre anthony hopkins who ate the bill secondary with some fava beans and a nice canty Let's kick it down to the field where we have patrick mohomes on the broadcast patrick talk about But i'll tell you what this is just one of those games that's just as fun to play in as it is to watch I certainly missed some throws in the first half Those are going to haunt me for the rest of my days and they go credit cut to coach ring
Starting point is 02:44:02 He kept the ball in my hand. He was over there on the sidelines Just like clip through the big red dog. Fortunately, I had some treats for himself as a pocket Just reminded me a lot of my big 12 days back in texas tech What's the red writer's taking on the oklahoma sweders and we have him live in studio for his post game comments show time You know, I just really like playing under the lights. You get to just watch and score just light up the board It's such a real treat. It was an up and down night Man boy, how'd I tell you I don't I sure hope all the good people in Kansas City Are watching at home on their respective televisions
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Starting point is 02:47:50 You can't throw in exceptions when you're holding a clipboard. I love big things my stardom is Scott dissing Do you remember Scott dissing the lord? Well, guess what? Praise the lord. He's appearing as a hologram live at Swissx theater This Friday 8 p.m. 6 6 5 6 Hollywood Boulevard use code swissx for free entry that's got dissing Hologram not Scott dissing himself live Hollywood Boulevard. No free ad. I'm starting fender amplifiers That's right. I got my hands on a bad boy mustang gt amp shout out fender I call that suck of the subway Jared because this one goes straight to 12 My start is I'm starting watching replays of old red socks Yankees playoff games. I'm talking erin boon I'm talking that silly fuck boy pago martinez wait those donzimidow like he's a shot of sambuca or something
Starting point is 02:48:41 I'm talking jessie veratek. He gives that dirty bastard a rod. Fuck a rod I'm telling you I took my buddy jeffrey one time to norio's game I told him that tony to rascals pork in his mom. I will jeffrey got the last left on that one Last stardom is that ain't it chief? That's a hot new meme if you want retweets favorites on twitter reply to anything on twitter That ain't it chief. They'll come flooding in i'm gonna start Best yep, you got that little nip in the air. You feel your nipples get a little hot That means fall is here put on that best boy for your look at a little chunky Put that best on all the ladies gonna say
Starting point is 02:49:19 Personality season personality season bath. I'm sitting pat my homes. That's right. I'm sitting patting my homes this weekend You think you can beat the stealers in the playoffs when you're doing a deal with hunts catch up in heights field Get the fuck out of here. All right, my sit these fucking time commercials. I told you we talk about it All right, let's fucking talk about it. They keep tricking my dumb ass brain with these time commercials Joe buck I thought I could trust you and then all of a sudden you say back to a commercial Troy says this is a commercial and I say what the fuck is going on in here I don't give a fuck. I love time. I love to in those pods, baby My sit him the giant's defense chase game about to work that ass. He's gonna think he's gonna dunk
Starting point is 02:50:01 He's gonna think he's gonna dunk. He's gonna think he's gonna dunk. He's gonna dunk. He's gonna dunk He's gonna think my sit him is the world series trophy Pussy ass piece of gold couldn't even take it hit by a couple beers without getting dented I need my trophies to be a little tougher You're telling me hey the last time I saw two beers messed something up like that. I was hanging out with hank I'm sitting crying. That's right. That's right. Derek Carl. You're crying because you got a little booboo on your spine Your leg you see you're yeah, staying on your wrist on your ankle. Well, I'm sorry one time I jumped out of a moving car because I saw the McRib was back. All right. I got road rash. It wasn't that bad
Starting point is 02:50:35 I didn't cry. I just I just washed down with a couple nice pickles. Nice the pickles you love your pickles You know I'm saying I do love them choking on those dills. Whoa my sit. I'm sitting hot coffee I'm not ready to give up my iced coffee just yet. You dickheads you pussy dickheads. Hey out there Hey, don't you say that? All right. I'm sitting pumpkin spice lattes. Fuck that shit that basic bitch shit I don't want that. Fuck. I just want to drink a black coffee Have the runs then drink another black coffee. Have the runs again. Fuck pumpkin spice latte That's right. It's like a booting rally for your behind my sit-em is coby bryant He's not even a top five leaker anymore now the bronze there
Starting point is 02:51:20 And his new film got dropped from a festival from his 2003 allegations. What were those allegations? He raped a chick Allegedly Oh shit, and also Peyton Manning stealing his thunder on esp and plus with the details There's a new sexual abuser in town and his name is not coby t Peyton Manning put his balls on someone that fucking scumbag My sit-em is rajan rondo
Starting point is 02:51:47 He betrayed his mentor kevin god net by doing their old tip-off ritual with former bitter enemy lebron james That's fucked up. You don't do that to an old family member. It's disrespectful. Keep it in house Oh, I think lebron invented that move you pussy. Nope. Fuck you You don't lose, you don't use sex moves from your first wife on your second wife. Are you actually mad at me right now? Yeah, you are. Fuck you. My sit-em is bombs in the mail Everyone knows that's a coward fucking move in our business. You shoot someone in the back of the head You don't put it a bomb in the mail and i'm gonna put a bomb in the mail for you avry Just saying not saying i will i'm just saying that i could if you see he bringing that shit up. That's right
Starting point is 02:52:22 You get back in the mailbox. I won't say it. Yeah, he might put one in uh in the arribuco's restaurant and get their insurance money off of that Sweet insurance money. No spoilers. All right. My sleeper is uh nature walks in the fall. You know what i'm saying guys Get a little sentimental like just walk around get a little hollow tree in your brain. No, you know You're just like damn. This is fucking beautiful. I wish I could paint a picture, but i'm not But hey, i wouldn't paint a picture because you know i'm a i'm a guy i wouldn't do that shit I like to go for walks in nature in october 2 is from door to door You know what i like to do is i like to go for a little nature walk and take a hole if you know what i'm saying Yeah, i like you know, i like to do it. I like to take my buddy chris's girlfriend
Starting point is 02:53:01 Uh, hey now And then drive her out in the middle of the woods make sure she got a bag with her Taking her up upstate. Yeah, we're going somewhere. Yeah, then she gets chilled. She don't got nothing to live for her Her dog's dead already. Yeah, it's chris sat on it. Did you get to that pot already for brisky? Come back ruin the show for me before that. I'm sleeping mango jewel pods. That's right They said they were going to take these away, but we fought back against tyranny demanding liberty and it was the fourth of july Okay, nothing like a tasty dessert that just so happens to deliver a payload of nicotine So big you'll be buzzing like a single hornet. That's right
Starting point is 02:53:37 The most deadly animal in the insect kingdom, baby. Stay me with that mango jewel pods. Stay me you bitch made loser Sick clouds if we my sleeper is marcus mariota He's hot. Hawaii's hot. They're having pineapple. Some people actually put pineapple on the Thanksgiving feast You start them you feel good. He's your sleeper And then you go aloha and they got the the girls with the ladies and shit and you know You know about like getting a little problematic over there You know the girls they got the fucking the the grass the grass good The volcanoes
Starting point is 02:54:20 I put a couple of his hula-goos on the hood of my on my Cadillac You kill them No, no, I mean no forever forbidden I'm talking dashboard. We put The dead bodies in the trunk hangs right, you know the little thing is that you put Like a friend of ours, you know, yeah, Billy bats got out of jail You'll get shot and get my shot box. I don't know if you're hurt. I don't try to choose no more Sleeper, I'm talking about sleeping an extra hour
Starting point is 02:54:52 Kids these days talking about catching some elves. I'm more about catching some z's I'm gonna use that extra hour of sleep to puke up all the wings and beer I drink on saturday time is money All right, my sleeper. I fold past woods. You saw Kanye's triple six zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero His iCloud's about to get hacked. We're about to see kim Kardashian nude for the first time in our life Let's go and uh, you better clock your iPhones folks because it's uh, it's a bad world out there. Okay Real shame some happen my sleeper is guy He was on the sidelines tonight. I think that means he's making a comeback He's gonna be going for president in 2020 and i'm gonna vote for him
Starting point is 02:55:33 My sleeper is the car to v because that's what i'm going to sleep listening to tonight Oh, I heard it just dropped it did. Oh fuck. All right. That stuff is going to make it. He is not okay My sleeper it's starbucks witches brew you guys seen this did he kill his wife? No, no, he fucked his wife killed him. That's fucked up. I also made that all up. I don't think so All right, so starbucks witches brew you guys see this it's a purple drink for witches So be careful. Listen, if you don't believe in witches, I don't know what the fucking tell you the real listen All i'm saying is I can't get an erection when a black cat's in the room All i'm saying is I watch rolled dolls witches when I was seven years old and I had nightmares for the next six years in my life
Starting point is 02:56:15 True story riding around on a broom. Who does that? All right What are you like a kid on a hobby horse purple eyeballs and no hair. Holy fucking shit. I'm scared right now My sleeper is mike brable His starting qb doesn't have feeling in his arm fellas where i'm from we call that the stranger You gotta be pulling my third leg with that rable is doing wind sprints before the game. That's my qb one, baby markets mariota hawaii brah Agoha
Starting point is 02:56:43 He's got the hello or the goodbye verse my sleeper Jay cutler i'm hearing reports I know some people who know some people who know some people who might also know some people And what they've been telling me is they got a brother who's got an uncle who knows his cousin Who's friends with a guy from grammar school who heard jay cutler is gonna be back for the san francisco 49 Now i've never been to san francisco It's not really my cup of tea you know i'm saying But I think jay cutler is going to be great in the san francisco 49 us
Starting point is 02:57:14 It's a cavalry. She's a good family. Yeah, good good great big family. Great family. Great family. Great family You ever have a pen age or an orange can or o c maybe my favorite on the hills my favorite show ever She'll cook you up for the seafood scampi like you read about Frank Sinatra on the hills my two favorite things big sunday By sleeper the titty twisters. Do you see this you hear this you read about this kevin the rick gave drizzy A toy titty twister said hey, why don't you whistle kid? And he did it and titty twisters a bag's aren't the only place you can find milk in canada Sometimes he's just gotta squeeze a knife for a titty when people give me titty twisters I feel really self-conscious about my tits. It's a big target. Yeah, you don't have to say that
Starting point is 02:57:54 Your tits are super dog. Okay. I said I was self-conscious guys. Why you gotta do this? All right, stop it. Hey, I heard she kissed nipples. Okay, stop it. I said I was self-conscious You want to give me a titty twister? You better bring an octopus. I'll take a twitch with my fucking teeth Uh, all right hank grab bag. Let's do it. If everything is made of atoms, what color is an atom? Mmm, that's a good question. Uh Is everything made of atoms? Let's start there. Adam and Eve. Yeah, would or have no that's actually not true. What are atoms made of? What about when you split an atom that's fire and that's a bomb so they're made of fire So a bomb is
Starting point is 02:58:37 What color is this is two atoms that I don't think about that stuff. Do you think about that stuff? You get bogged down in the details You get hurt then you know what it is If you think about that too much then nothing's real, right? It's like, oh, I didn't do that a bunch of atoms that are posing as Yeah, it's like thinking too hard about space. You think too hard about space your brain starts to cramp up and you die Whoa is almost three percent of the ice in Antarctica is actually penguin pee Whoa, how much of this penguin jizz? Well, you wouldn't be able to tell this is white. How do you know? Have you ever been nutted on by penguin? No, I'm assuming they're not white Right, we don't know actually most animals. I feel like they don't they only jizz inside of
Starting point is 02:59:19 Females nice. Yeah, you know like penguins aren't just jizzing on shit Yeah, no, they're paul game real weak. They aren't just jizzing everywhere. I'd assume that's what that's what fish do man Yeah, you ever seen a fish nut nut. Yeah, just sprays it all along the floor No, those are for the eggs. No, they go spray and pray. Yeah, then the eggs like all build up Okay, well, I was nutting called nutting Because it comes to a good question. Uh, what causes cell phones to vibrate? When you're horny Interesting. Do you mean like what inside the cell phone?
Starting point is 02:59:50 I Is there like a little guy? Yeah, he just shakes it playing the drums in there cell phones are wild man When you think about it when you really start thinking about it when you stop thinking about nothing and you start thinking about cell phones They're wild. They are wild like you're connected to everything you ever get the uh the phantom vibrates Where you could swear that your phone was vibrating and then you reach down It's just like it's nothing and then you feel like I've got a real problem Could you imagine going back to your like like 12 year old self and being like hey at some point
Starting point is 03:00:20 You're going to carry around a little pocket computer in your in your pocket and you're going to be able to masturbate to it That's wild. Yeah. I mean honestly, that's that's like heaven When I was 12 years old Like hey, you won't have to wait up till midnight to watch blurry spice channels Wait, you can order pizza and jerk off using the exact same thing. Yep and put in your bets That we'll probably lose. You know what the original cell phone was just your mind You could do all those things with your imagination. That's true Oh
Starting point is 03:00:55 I I don't even have it in my head anymore Oh, damn fuck. Let's get it. No Got it nailed it I can't find it I got it. I'm back. All right. Welcome back to rick patino's podcast. We got some segments. Uh, first up We got uh Why uh, the prostit why is the prostitute party so bad and I didn't know about it But if I did would it be that bad that a couple recruits got the dick sucked? I'll take this one. Uh, no, it wouldn't
Starting point is 03:01:32 Yeah, well, we did we didn't know about it. But if we did What's what's wrong? What's wrong? A couple dicks got sucked. I'd rather them begin to dick sucked in a building With my name on it. Yeah, then in a building god knows where on the other side of town, right? Yeah, they could get robbed or something worse or they could spill the sauce everywhere wind up with a kid They don't want to do exactly then you got to take her to the subway and tell her that she's getting an abortion In my day, you put a tie on the door. Everybody looks the other way. It's fine. It's a different day in age now though Yeah kids these days they fucking get a you you buy them a prostitute trying to get them to go to your college The next thing you know, they're writing books about it a very sad state of affairs sucks
Starting point is 03:02:10 She would not not not my day purple is the color of royalty. What is the color of poverty? Well, that's mean that's ugly. That's really ugly. Why? You know, we don't pour shame. Uh green. It's not shaming It's actually ironic. It's probably green because like poor people probably have more cash than rich people do cash on hand and What well all my cash is in the cloud, bro A lot of rich people they they're not fully liquid. Well, they got to stay somewhat I actually have no idea how much money I have. I like to stay 100 liquid at all times. Yeah
Starting point is 03:02:43 I'm about to get a little bit more liquid. Yeah a little bit. Oh, you got to get liquid If you're not liquid, you're not making moves. I don't know. That's a good question. Why did purple become the color of royalty? Probably like some some fucking king in england who fucked like all his relatives and they just made more fuck babies relatives One of them was like he bumped into his coffee table and the hematoma Like bruise got really purple on his shin and then they're like, oh my god. That's like king charles. That's beautiful And then they said, oh, that's the color of the royal family and then he just killed over and died and he was also seven years old That's actually close to my theory. We're just gonna be some some king or somebody in europe had like a Skin disease when they turned purple and were really fucking ugly. Yeah, and then they were like actually this is good
Starting point is 03:03:28 Yes, so you should all you should all strive to look like. Yeah, right Like this is i'm the hottest one here because every time that I brush up against something I get a deep bruise in my skin Then it almost kills me. It's like back in the day when they used to just tell people Oh, if you're fat, that's actually the most cool thing to be back in the day. Yeah. Well, it's coming back. Yeah Yeah, I was gonna say it's really back for a while power for a while thin was in. Yes It was heroin chic now it's Now it's munchies mound. Yeah, right. Whoa if people are allergic to cats and dogs
Starting point is 03:03:58 Does that mean that cats and dogs can be allergic to people? Uh, whoa, oh, maybe that's why cats are such assholes all the time. They're all allergic to humans Whoa Yeah, so crazy cat ladies are actually well. Yeah, we're cheering animals. We have souls and they're allergic to souls. Yeah, yeah That's why don't don't cats steal babies souls when they sleep if they sneeze No, if a baby sneezes a cat will steal its soul. Yeah, that's actually a truth. It takes its breath. Yeah Because we're also allergic to them. Yeah Fuck cats. Yeah, I'm on the record. Fuck cats. I mean, yeah, who who owns cats
Starting point is 03:04:35 Explain to Hank. What is the thick and thin in the saying through thick and thin? Mmm thick is like if if you know you get a little junk in the trunk And then thin is if you get too skinny so through thick and thin So it's like I promise to love you even if you really got that booty going or if you're some becky with no butt Yeah, I bind that I buy everything that's it was said right there. By the way, I was informed today Uh, terrible news Vern Troyer has passed away. I did not know that until today. I had several months ago I really fucked up that you guys told me that that a while. Josie died too. But the guy from kid rock
Starting point is 03:05:13 How long ago did Vern Troyer die? It was recent this year. Yeah, it was recent It's just fucked up to just lay that on me. His little liver couldn't handle it. Yeah Man Taxed by the way like 15 days. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah, October 15th. Mm-hmm. Not for me. What you already did yours? Didn't last year. No I Wasn't joking Holy shit
Starting point is 03:05:42 Who is the number one on your list of people you want to interview but haven't yet? Aaron Rodgers He'd be good cubes It's interesting that you say Aaron Rodgers because you just hate him so much. Yeah, I want it Oh, Kevin Durant. Actually, I want to call him a baby back bitch to his face I feel like both of them know you it would be tough for you to know I'd say I'd have to come out hard at first And then soften it up
Starting point is 03:06:02 Aaron Rodgers, I would Kevin Durant, I think would actually be good after a while after we got the old baby back bitch shit out of the way Aaron Rodgers I feel like Aaron Rodgers if he was not in the right mood could be a very bad interview You know, I'd like to interview Jerry Jones on the bus get them all littered up Glory home. Yeah, get them all liquored up and talk to Jerry He gave us some gold for sure if we talked to him Imagine doing an exit interview with Jerry Jones and just having it being glory. I think Jerry Jones
Starting point is 03:06:29 Entire life is just an exit Yeah, Hank's gonna stand on the other side of this wall. Yeah, and you have to eat whatever comes through. Oh my god I got a woe for you guys. How come people who snore really loud wake other people up, but they don't wake themselves up Whoa Whoa, well, it's like if you have a wet dream you come but the person that you're having sex within the dream Doesn't come probably Maybe they maybe they do or Whoa
Starting point is 03:06:59 Yeah, I say you haven't you've never proven otherwise. Yeah Hmm interesting How does wind stop do all do all wet dreams have a partner? I think they do it might be like everyone on earth has a twin somewhere You just have you have a wet dream buddy that exists somewhere like in mongolia That's just nutting in the middle of like a a llama Wait your wet dream buddy's nutting Yeah, your wet dream buddy always not yeah
Starting point is 03:07:29 Got it. Okay, because mine's squirting but yours is nutting. Okay, got it. Nutting is unisexual That's not the right word for it. It's actually um Nutting does not know gender boundaries. You can use it for male or for female gender's a special Nothing is a spectrum. Yes. Nothing is a spectrum. Well, here's a fun fact though the job of a male Objinn OBGYN is to Is to mansplain
Starting point is 03:07:59 Oh my god, Hank. Oh, it's OBGYN. Yes I'm a nutrition gynecologist. Yeah, I mean how the fuck are you supposed to like know that They didn't put any periods in between the letters or anything. When was the last time you got your pap smeared, Hank? Hey Confirmed Hank does not have a vagina. Anyway, the job of a very very unhealthy one Objinn is to mansplain women's bodies to them. Therefore their job is guys on chicks big cat and pft are practically doctors Okay, yeah, I'll take it. I'm an objinn. Yeah, don't objinn defy me Take on me Me
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